RE: IOS 9.2.1 and iTunes.

[M. Taylor]

Rajmund,

It will show up on any phone running iOS 9.2.1.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 5:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 9.2.1 and iTunes.

Hi Mark,
Will this even show up on the 5s?

Sent from a BrailleNote

 - Original Message -
From: "M.  Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:43:40 -0800
Subject: RE: IOS 9.2.1 and iTunes.

Hello Kevin,

Do not worry.  Nothing is wrong.

You, like me and hundreds of thousands of others are currently running iOS 
9.2.1 Build 13D15.

A couple of days ago, Apple released a new build of iOS 9.2.1 which is Build 
13D20.  Build 13D20 is not available for over-the-air updates.

This new release is to address the Error 53 problem that some devices were 
receiving after having been repaired by third-party vendors.

The short of it is, if your phone is working fine, there is no need to update 
to the latest build as it addresses only one, and one thing only, the error 53 
message.

The next time you connect your device to iTunes, in the dialogue box that 
informs you of the newer update, before choosing the Cancel button, also select 
the "Do not ask me this again" 
checkbox.

Relax, all is well.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 5:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IOS 9.2.1 and iTunes.

Guys,
I have updated my phone to iOS 9.2.1 over Wi-Fi connected to AC.  
Today, I added some CDs to my iTunes library on my mac mini.  I had to connect 
my iPhone to my Mac mini to transfer these to my iPhone.  I wish I did not have 
to do that.

When I connected my iPhone to my Mac mini, I received a message that there was 
a new iOS version.  I decided not to download it.  
I hit cancel.

Then, I saw a message saying that there was music on my phone that had not been 
transferred to my iTunes library.  It was recommended that I not update my 
iPhone software until I transferred this material.  I allowed the new CDs to be 
transferred onto my iPhone.  I'm not aware that the music that I have 
downloaded over the air to my iPhone is not in my iTunes library.  While I am 
unclear about this, what I am really concerned about is why iTunes thinks that 
I am not updated to the latest version of iPhone software.  Looking under 
software update on my phone, I get the message that my software is up-to-date.  
Could anyone give me advice as to just what I should do?  I can continually 
choose cancel with respect to the software update thing and simply transfer 
music from my iTunes library to my iPhone.  But I get the sense that this is 
not quite right.

Since I don't visit this group very often, I would be grateful if people would 
be kind enough to copy me directly on any responses.  
My email address is kevj...@gmail.com.

Thanks,
Kevin

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: creating contact groups

[M. Taylor]

Hi Paul,

How does one create a contact group via Outlook for Windows that will show up 
on the phone?  

I am using the iCloud Control panel with Outlook.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Hunt
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 3:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: creating contact groups

Hello. You cannot create contact groups in IOS. If you use a computer with 
Microsoft Outlook and the iCloud Control panel, you can easily create and 
manage contact groups.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordan Radic
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: creating contact groups

Hi!
iOS as it is doesn't support creation of the contact groups. I know, it is 
stupid because the Contact app gives you some options for groups, such as the 
Do not Disturb option but there's no way to create a group besides external 
apps.
Try with G Contact Lite or some other contacts management apps.
S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić





24.2.2016. u 22:47, Ryan Mann je napisao/la:
Hello.  Does anybody on this list create contact groups using
VoiceOver on their iPhone?  I would like to create a group and be able
to send text messages or email to everybody in that group instead of
having to add individual people.  Let's say for example I wanted to
send a text message or email to my family.  I would like to be able to
add people to that group and tell Siri to send a text message to my
family.  Is this possible with VoiceOver?


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RE: creating contact groups

[M. Taylor]

Hello Ryan,

The only way I've done it so far is to go to iCloud.com, login there, and 
create the group.

Mark 

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Ryan Mann
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: creating contact groups

Hello.  Does anybody on this list create contact groups using VoiceOver on 
their iPhone?  I would like to create a group and be able to send text messages 
or email to everybody in that group instead of having to add individual people. 
 Let's say for example I wanted to send a text message or email to my family.  
I would like to be able to add people to that group and tell Siri to send a 
text message to my family.  Is this possible with VoiceOver?

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A Question About Audio Descriptive Movies in iTunes

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I am posting this question to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing
list.

My primary question:
Is the audio description track included when renting a movie from iTunes? or
must one purchase the movie in order to receive the audio description track.

My secondary question:
If a movie debuted with an audio description track in the theater, does it
follow that the movie will include that track in the iTunes store version of
the movie?

Here's my situation:
Last summer I saw the movie entitled "Edge of Tomorrow", in the theater,
complete with audio description.  To me, it was a fabulous movie.  Just so
you know, the film is now marketed and sold under the title, "Live die
Repeat".

A couple of days ago, a sighted friend of mine rented Live die Repeat, from
the iTunes Store.  She watched it on her iPad.  Even though many titles, in
the iTunes Store, are not listed as having audio description, I was hoping
that, like so many others, given that the film was released with audio
description in the theater, the track would be included on the download.  

According to her, she could not hear any audio description despite having
the settings on her iPad configured correctly.

I should probably add that, to my dismay, I discovered that the DVD copy of
this title, I purchased when it was first made available, did not include
the audio description track, either.

I would so much like to enjoy this movie again but I fear, that, unless I
can locate a version that includes the audio description track, I will not
be able to relive the experience of "Edge of Tomorrow".

All replies most welcomed.

Mark

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RE: creating contact groups

[M. Taylor]

Hello Gordon,

That’s a good idea.

Personally, I don’t like giving third-party apps access to either my Calendars 
or Contacts list.

Mark



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordan Radic
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: creating contact groups

Hi!
iOS as it is doesn't support creation of the contact groups. I know, it is 
stupid because the Contact app gives you some options for groups, such as the 
Do not Disturb option but there's no way to create a group besides external 
apps.
Try with G Contact Lite or some other contacts management apps.
S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić





24.2.2016. u 22:47, Ryan Mann je napisao/la:
Hello.  Does anybody on this list create contact groups using
VoiceOver on their iPhone?  I would like to create a group and be able
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having to add individual people.  Let's say for example I wanted to
send a text message or email to my family.  I would like to be able to
add people to that group and tell Siri to send a text message to my
family.  Is this possible with VoiceOver?


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Adding or Moving Contacts Between Groups in iOS

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this.

I feel as though I am in the Twilight Zone, today. (smile)

Is there a natively Apple iOS method of moving Contacts between groups?  

>From what I can discover, there is not.  

If I go to iCloud.com I can manage groups and move contacts between them
using a very visual method.  That is to say, one has to click and drag the
contacts to the various groups.  This is, in no way, blind or low-vision
friendly.  

Now I realize that there are third-party iOS apps that many use and
recommend, however, I do not like the idea of giving a third-party app
access to my contacts list.  

Perhaps this can be done in OS X?  I seem to remember that this subject was
discussed a while back on the Mac Visionaries mailing list.

Thank you all for your help on this one.

Mark

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RE: MeetUp, A Great App for Those Who Want to Widen Their Social Circles

[M. Taylor]

Hello Simon,  

To be honest, I signed up on the website, http://meetup.com, where I completed 
my profile and uploaded my photo, etc.

When I first joined Meet Up, there was no iOS app.

When I downloaded the app a couple of days ago, I simply signed into my account 
on the app.  Consequently, I have not used the app to actually create a new 
user account.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 1:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MeetUp, A Great App for Those Who Want to Widen Their Social 
Circles

have you actually managed to sign up on this app?
have been trying for some time, and just can't get the sign up button to do 
anything.

Simon


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To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 7:38 AM
Subject: MeetUp, A Great App for Those Who Want to Widen Their Social Circles


Hello Everyone,

I am delighted to see that the MeetUp app, for iOS, is now VoiceOver 
accessible.  This is a free app.  The app is free to use in order to find and 
join meet ups, however, one must pay a fee in order to actually create/organize 
a new meet up group.

I will paste in the direct link to the app followed by the app's description as 
listed in the App Store.  If you like this app, please send an email to the 
developer thanking them for their efforts.

Mark

Download the app by using:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/meetup-groups-near-you-that/id375990038?mt=8

Description

Meetup makes community real. Our app helps you see what's happening with groups 
of people near you that share your interests. And now it's easier than ever to 
stay up to date on the go with Meetup for Apple Watch. Want to start a new 
Meetup and become an organizer? Set up your subscription and pay right from the 
app. As always, Meetup is free to download and free to use for members.

Featured by Apple in "Best New Apps" and "Great Free Apps"

People meetup around the things that matter most to them. Popular Meetups
include:
Tech Meetup groups
Moms Meetup groups
Dads Meetup groups
Fitness Meetup groups
Hiking Meetup groups
Career and Networking Meetup groups
Support Meetup groups
Book Club Meetup groups
Photography Meetup groups
New in Town Meetup groups
Dog Meetup groups
Language Meetup groups
and 1000s more!

Subscription Plans:
Anyone who wishes to organize a Meetup may subscribe through the app. An 
organizer subscription entitles you to create up to three Meetups with an 
unlimited number of members and co-organizers. Meetup offers 1-month and 
6-month subscription plans based on the location of your Meetup.

Prices for Meetups created in the U.S., U.K., Canada and Australia:
Unlimited 1-Month: $9.99

All other countries:
Unlimited 1-Month: $9.99
Unlimited 6-Month: $29.99

Your subscription will automatically renew at the end of your billing period, 
and your credit card will be charged through your iTunes account.
You can turn off auto-renew at any time from your iTunes account Settings.

Questions or Concerns? Please contact us at supp...@meetup.com. We respond to 
every inquiry.

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RE: Time Warner App

[M. Taylor]

Hello Andy,

Can you give a general description of how one would watch a television show via 
the Time Warner app?  Just some general steps would be most appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 6:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Time Warner App

I do not know if all functions are accessible, but watching TV programs is 
accessible.
 
Andy
 
From: Sarah Clark 
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:09 AM
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Subject: Time Warner App
Does anyone know if the Time Warner cable (television) app is accessible?
 
Sarah
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RE: accessible keyboard w/ number row

[M. Taylor]

Hello, 

I and many, many others have been lobbying Apple, for years, to add a number 
row to the default keyboard.  For whatever reason, they choose not to do so.  
It is very frustrating--especially to those of us who have Android devices and 
become used to the convenience of not having to switch between keyboards just 
to enter a single number.

The reason I don't use third-party keyboards is because they, as I understand 
it, have access to everything you type in on them.  

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brett
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 11:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible keyboard w/ number row

Hi,  

I have actually got fleksy to work, but I think its word prediction is no where 
near as good as the fleksy VO version. I spent more time trying to correct 
words it didn't pick than if I had just used the iPhones keyboard. So I 
uninstalled it. 

Cheers, 
Brett. 


Sent from Brett's iPhone

On 22 Jan 2016, at 4:47 PM, Harry Bell  wrote:
Fleksy has a numbers extension you can install above the usual letters 
keyboard. See Alan's tutorial elsewhere in today's emails. 

On 21 Jan 2016, at 23:59, Juan Hernandez  wrote:
Hi All,
 
On my android phone, I have the standard keyboard.  It is great, because not 
only does it have all of the letters, etc but a number row.
 
Are there any accessible keyboards that have the numbers above the letters? So 
one doesn’t have to switch between alpha to numeric?
 
Best,
 
Juan Hernandez
Email:  juanhernande...@gmail.com
Mobile:  619-750-9431
Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/blindwiz
Facebook:  http://www.facebook.com/blindwiz
 
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RE: messages

[M. Taylor]

Hello Lois,

Assuming that you have rebooted the phone, I suggest that you go into the 
notifications area of the phone and confirm that you have notifications turned 
on for the Messages app.  Also, be sure to set the Badge App Icon to. on.

To do this:

1.
>From the Settings area, select Notifications.  

2.
Find the Messages entry and single-finger double-tap to open its properties and 
configure its notifications settings.

Good Luck,

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 12:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: messages

Hi all,
 
I have an IPhone 6S running the latest update.  Since a few updates back, when 
I touch the messages icon, I never hear how many new messages there are, or if 
there are any new ones.  It just says, messages, double tap to open.  I am 
missing new text messages because of this.
 
Has anyone had this happen?  Any ideas on what I might try to fix it.
 
I keep hoping for it to be fixed with every update that comes out, but it still 
doesn’t work.
 
Thanks,
Lois
 
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RE: can't get into the tv guide app

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Hello Larry,

While I’m not certain as to what you are referring to when you write ,"I can 
get past the screen where you choose to use e-mail," I can tell you that the TV 
Guide Mobile app is VoiceOver accessible once you get past the introductory 
screens.  Also, make certain that you are running the latest version of iOS.  
Some members ask a sighted person to navigate the one-time intro screens as a 
means to skip this process.

Mark 

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Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 6:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: can't get into the tv guide app

Hi.  I bring up the tv guide app on my 5s and can get past the screen where you 
choose to use e-mail, etc.  But I can’t get past the screen that says “swipe 
left to see options” or something like that.  Nothing seems to work.

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RE: can't find airplay button on any apps

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Hello Melissa,

Getting a new WiFi modem is a major change.  

When I think of Air Play, I generally think, Apple TV.  Is that your objective? 
To stream media to an Apple TV?

Since you have a new WiFi modem, you may need to unplug your Apple TV for about 
45 seconds or so, then, reboot it.  Make certain that all of your devices are 
on the same network.  Please keep in mind that just because each device has 
access to the Internet via the modem, does not mean that they are on the same 
network.  They probably are but not necessarily so.

Mark
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Melissa Tucker
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: can't find airplay button on any apps

I know this sounds strange and there may not be an answer. But I cannot find 
the airplay button for media streaming and either  the  music app ootunes, or 
any  other app that normally has it.  I just got a new wifi modem, but other 
than that, no major changes.  Any suggestions?  I have rebooted the phone too.  
I have the latest ios on an iphone 5s 

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RE: SnapChat

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Hello Rajmund,

The person who posted the message, containing profane language, has been banned 
from the group.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SnapChat

Hi,
Well, that's why I wondered, before lecturing anyone, could be a very bad 
typing error.  But if not.

Sent from a BrailleNote

 - Original Message -
From: "kimmie parutu" > wrote:

 Hello,

 Is SnapChat, as far as texting go, accessible on IOS?

 Sent from a BrailleNote

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RE: Frustrated with Apple Pay

[M. Taylor]

Hello Sarai,

I am sorry you have had difficulty in using Apple Pay.  Rest assured that once 
you get the hang of it, it will quickly become your payment method of choice.

There are a couple of things to keep in mind when using Apple Pay.  First, 
because of various security policies, some vendors require that either you or 
the cashier confirm the payment, by tapping a soft-button on the terminal, 
after initiating Apple Pay.  This is usually not the case but, in the case of 
some vendors, it is.  

Second, if you recently rebooted the phone, you must first enter your unlock 
password in order to use both either the phone or Apple Pay.  

So, having said this, when you're ready to use Apple Pay and assuming all is 
well with your preferred credit card and, that you only have one credit card on 
file for use with Apple Pay:

1.
Wait until the cashier tells you that the system is ready to accept payment.  
You may also ask the cashier if he/she is ready to accept payment.  

2.
With the phone locked, that is to say, with the screen turned off, place your 
finger, which you use to unlock iPhone, on the HOME button as you move the 
device to within 2 inches of the terminal transmitter.  Be certain not to 
depress the HOME button, just keep your finger on top of it until you feel a 
double-vibration.  

3.
At this point, the transaction should be complete, however, at certain 
locations, a message will pop-up on the vendor's terminal display requiring you 
to confirm the purchase.  In such an instance, someone will need to tap that 
button in order to complete the transaction.  

Finally, and I cannot underscore this enough, it is extremely important that 
you place iPhone to within 2 inches of the terminal transmitter in order to 
initiate payment.  Some people think that just because the credit card pops up 
on the phone's display, that the transaction is in progress.  It is not.  If 
the phone is not close enough, even though the display is awake, the 
transaction will not be initiated.  

Oh, while it is not necessary for the phone to first be locked in order to use 
Apple Pay, I find that first time users of the payment method do better when 
beginning the transaction from that state.

Good Luck,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Frustrated with Apple Pay

Hi guys:
I have a new iphone 6s. I bought it for Apple pay. I cannot get it to work! I 
went to Sprouts, and Petco, who have apple pay. I held my phone up to the 
reader. Phone vibrated, and brought up my credit card. I touched the finger id. 
nothing happened! I cannot figure it out!
Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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Which Apple TV Offers Audio Description?

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I have an Apple TV second or maybe third generation.  It is running version
6.2.1 of the TV OS.  

Question:  Will it play the audio description of a movie?  

I explored all of the menus and was unable to locate any audio description
toggle.  I am interested in either purchasing or renting movies directly
from the iTunes store, only.  

If I have to buy the latest version of Apple TV, I will, but I wanted to
confirm that my current unit either will or will not play the audio
description track.  

I have no plans to use Net Flicks.

Thank you,

Mark

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RE: MeetUp, A Great App for Those Who Want to Widen Their Social Circles

[M. Taylor]

Hello Simon, 

Thank you for the update on this.

They have been requiring photos since the increase in crime, around the 
country.  

Remember, the primary purpose for meet up is so that people can actually gather 
together at a specific time and location.  

Please send your findings to supp...@meetup.com as I am confident that they 
will address this unexpected bug.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 11:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MeetUp, A Great App for Those Who Want to Widen Their Social 
Circles

eventually found out what the problem was. it wanted a photo, and won't let you 
sign up with out one, which is a bit of a pig for a totally blind person, but 
the real frustration is that the message that says this doesn't stick around 
for long to give us time to read it, it was only by pure luck that I actually 
found it.

Simon


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From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:28 PM
Subject: RE: MeetUp, A Great App for Those Who Want to Widen Their Social 
Circles


Hello Simon,

To be honest, I signed up on the website, http://meetup.com, where I completed 
my profile and uploaded my photo, etc.

When I first joined Meet Up, there was no iOS app.

When I downloaded the app a couple of days ago, I simply signed into my account 
on the app.  Consequently, I have not used the app to actually create a new 
user account.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 1:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MeetUp, A Great App for Those Who Want to Widen Their Social 
Circles

have you actually managed to sign up on this app?
have been trying for some time, and just can't get the sign up button to do 
anything.

Simon


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From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 7:38 AM
Subject: MeetUp, A Great App for Those Who Want to Widen Their Social Circles


Hello Everyone,

I am delighted to see that the MeetUp app, for iOS, is now VoiceOver 
accessible.  This is a free app.  The app is free to use in order to find 
and join meet ups, however, one must pay a fee in order to actually 
create/organize a new meet up group.

I will paste in the direct link to the app followed by the app's description 
as listed in the App Store.  If you like this app, please send an email to 
the developer thanking them for their efforts.

Mark

Download the app by using:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/meetup-groups-near-you-that/id375990038?mt=8

Description

Meetup makes community real. Our app helps you see what's happening with 
groups of people near you that share your interests. And now it's easier 
than ever to stay up to date on the go with Meetup for Apple Watch. Want to 
start a new Meetup and become an organizer? Set up your subscription and pay 
right from the app. As always, Meetup is free to download and free to use 
for members.

Featured by Apple in "Best New Apps" and "Great Free Apps"

People meetup around the things that matter most to them. Popular Meetups
include:
Tech Meetup groups
Moms Meetup groups
Dads Meetup groups
Fitness Meetup groups
Hiking Meetup groups
Career and Networking Meetup groups
Support Meetup groups
Book Club Meetup groups
Photography Meetup groups
New in Town Meetup groups
Dog Meetup groups
Language Meetup groups
and 1000s more!

Subscription Plans:
Anyone who wishes to organize a Meetup may subscribe through the app. An 
organizer subscription entitles you to create up to three Meetups with an 
unlimited number of members and co-organizers. Meetup offers 1-month and 
6-month subscription plans based on the location of your Meetup.

Prices for Meetups created in the U.S., U.K., Canada and Australia:
Unlimited 1-Month: $9.99

All other countries:
Unlimited 1-Month: $9.99
Unlimited 6-Month: $29.99

Your subscription will automatically renew at the end of your billing 
period, and your credit card will be charged through your iTunes account.
You can turn off auto-renew at any time from your iTunes account Settings.

Questions or Concerns? Please contact us at supp...@meetup.com. We respond 
to every inquiry.

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RE: is amazon music for I devices and pc accessible?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Ari,

I will keep this message in my Inbox to remind me to test the Amazon Cloud 
Library with Jaws, tomorrow.  I will post my findings afterwards.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is amazon music for I devices and pc accessible?

Mark, i've had a horrible time trying to use the Amazon music downloader 
program for Windows with NVDA. I haven't found the browser experience to be any 
better. Have you tried using a screen reader instead of Zoom text to access 
your music and downloaded from the web, without using the downloader program?

Thanks,
Ari

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 1:00 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello Larry,
> 
> I have not used the iOS Amazon Music app.  However, I can tell you that the 
> Windows version of the app does not play nicely with ZoomText.  In fact, I 
> recently installed it on my Windows 10 computer only to remove it about an 
> hour later.  
> 
> To be honest, assuming that you are using a modern browser on your PC, the 
> Amazon browser experience is completely screen-reader friendly.  All of the 
> buttons are labeled and, to me anyway, are arranged in a logical order.
> 
> After purchasing music from Amazon, I simply download the track or tracks, as 
> the case may be, to my PC for playback and eventual iPod use.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 7:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: is amazon music for I devices and pc accessible?
> 
> The subject says it.  Are the ios and pc apps for amazon music accessible?  
> The amazon music player I downloaded years ago wasn’t very accessible.
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RE: A Question About Using the BARD App for Reading a Braille Book with a Focus 40 Blue Braille Display

[M. Taylor]

Hello Brian,

Your reply was blank.

Can you please resend?

Mark
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Subject: Re: A Question About Using the BARD App for Reading a Braille Book 
with a Focus 40 Blue Braille Display

On 3/17/16, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I recently downloaded a Braille title in the BARD app on my 6 Plus 
> running the latest version of iOS.  I am using my Focus 40 Blue as the 
> Braille display.  The firmware on my Focus is v4.59.
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1.
> Can I jump from page one to page 2 using only the display, itself?  If 
> so, how?
>
> 2.
> Is there any way to configure the system so I can use the left Whiz 
> Wheel or button in order to pan forward?  I read Braille with my right 
> index finger and having to both transverse the display along with 
> subsequently having to press a navigation button with the same hand is 
> causing quite a lot of fatigue.  In short, is it possible to reverse 
> pan?
>
> Any and all tips and tricks for reading Braille on the Focus 40 in the 
> BARD app would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Mark
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Thre are some quick navigation keys listed in the help section of the app. 
You'll find this on the bookshelf. There's a section on braille.
The one I remember as a for instance is letter p moves by page, n moves to the 
next occurrence of the selected element. I haven't used it in awhile so I'd 
recommend starting with the braile section in the help on the bookshelf.

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RE: is amazon music for I devices and pc accessible?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Again Ari,

Well, I just spent over an hour with my Amazon online music library, IE11, and 
Jaws for Windows, version 16.  

I must tell you that my experience with using Jaws instead of Zoomtext was 
vastly different and not, in my opinion, in a good way.

Now keep in mind that I am not an advanced Jaws user, anymore, especially when 
it comes to using web browsers so take what I write with a grain of salt, as it 
were.

I was surprised at how unstructured the Amazon Music Library is with regard to 
Jaws.  For example, there are no headings to speak of and, worst still, the 
tracks appear not to be listed in a table, proper.  

While I did find it easy to download various tracks, I have no doubt that this 
is because I had previously seen the structure of the interface, visually.   I 
don't think I could have made heads or tails out of anything had I not 
experienced the interface, over the past couple of months, with my eyes, on a 
desktop PC using a screen magnifier.

Just so you know, I used a laptop running Windows 7 with IE 11 and absolutely 
no screen magnification.  In short, I did not and could not use my eyes.  
Although I do have the latest version of Jaws on one of my Desktops, I wanted 
to make certain that I would not cheat during the experience by leaning in and 
peeping at the monitor (smile).  How's that for honesty? (big smile)

To be honest, were I to lose the ability to use Zoomtext in order to access the 
Amazon music library, I would probably never buy another song from them, 
preferring instead to use iTunes.  

Again, I am not an advanced Jaws user.  In fact, I had to type the direct URL 
into the browser in order to locate my online music library as I could not get 
Jaws to land on the Music Library link on the main page of Amazon.  The direct 
URL to your Amazon music library is:
http://amazon.com/musiclibrary

Okay, there you have it from my perspective.

Mark

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englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is amazon music for I devices and pc accessible?

Mark, i've had a horrible time trying to use the Amazon music downloader 
program for Windows with NVDA. I haven't found the browser experience to be any 
better. Have you tried using a screen reader instead of Zoom text to access 
your music and downloaded from the web, without using the downloader program?

Thanks,
Ari

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 1:00 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello Larry,
> 
> I have not used the iOS Amazon Music app.  However, I can tell you that the 
> Windows version of the app does not play nicely with ZoomText.  In fact, I 
> recently installed it on my Windows 10 computer only to remove it about an 
> hour later.  
> 
> To be honest, assuming that you are using a modern browser on your PC, the 
> Amazon browser experience is completely screen-reader friendly.  All of the 
> buttons are labeled and, to me anyway, are arranged in a logical order.
> 
> After purchasing music from Amazon, I simply download the track or tracks, as 
> the case may be, to my PC for playback and eventual iPod use.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 7:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: is amazon music for I devices and pc accessible?
> 
> The subject says it.  Are the ios and pc apps for amazon music accessible?  
> The amazon music player I downloaded years ago wasn’t very accessible.
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RE: Okay Seriously, What's the Deal?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Kelby,

Please do not be discouraged if you do not receive a reply to your post.  

As others have already posted to this thread, there are many reasons why there 
is no response including the fact that no one has the answer.

For example, a few months back, when I posted my first message regarding 
Twitter Moments, I did not receive any replies.  I simply took this to mean 
that no one knew the answer.  Nothing more or less.

So, re-post your question and remember to make a joyful noise, okay?

Mark

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Okay Seriously, What's the Deal?

I have posted multiple questions on this list over the past few months, 
receiving absolutely no replies on my threads. It isn't as if there are no 
active threads on the list; I'm not asking these things for no reason or 
because I haven't tried to research them my own. I really don't appreciate 
this, especially since Apple seems to have rendered its tech support website 
inaccessible.


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RE: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

[M. Taylor]

Hello Regina,

First, I completely understand how Twitter can overwhelm anyone, in the 
beginning.  It just takes time in order to learn what to filter out and, more 
importantly, what the various symbols/tags mean.  

Second, As a general rule, I suggest that those new to Twitter only follow news 
sources such as CNN, The Associated Press, CBS, etc.  I suggest this because we 
all know what news is supposed to sound like and, as a result, we can quickly 
learn what is data and what is Twitter meta-data, intuitively.  Now that I 
think about it, when I began using the Twitter app, I only chose to follow one 
news source, CNN.  Little-by-little, I began adding other news sources and then 
finally commercial companies, private citizens, etc.  

One of the biggest complaints about Twitter, Facebook, social media, etc, is 
how much time it takes in order to stay up-to-date with the latest information. 
 

Over the last couple of years, Twitter has taken the lead with regard to 
providing quick up-to-the-minute news in virtually every area of the globe.  I 
suspect this began when people in third-world countries began posting to 
Twitter when anything horrific happened such as a tsunami, earthquake, etc.  
Regardless of how it started, mainstream media began using Twitter as a way to 
cultivate more patrons.  Also, during his first presidential run, Barack Obama 
demonstrated how powerful Twitter can be in reaching young people in order to 
galvanize a movement.

Okay, enough of the history lesson.  My point is that the more people used 
Twitter, the more information there was to sift through.  As Kerri stated 
yesterday, in order to keep up, one had to either employ a third-party app to 
conduct complex searches or one had to follow an enormous number of 
people/sources.  At to that the fact that one had to constantly check Twitter 
so as not to miss anything.  

Enter Twitter Moments.  Affectively, this turns Twitter into a kind of breaking 
news aggregate.

As to how to use it more effectively?

Near the top of the screen, you see some major categories.  Select the one in 
which you're interested.  Then, you will see a list of top-stories.  Find one 
that peaks your interest and select it.  

This will bring up a full-screen display containing either a photo or a video.  
Near the bottom of the screen, there will be some text describing the event.  
Now keep in mind that the text will only be a few sentences.  Moments is not 
intended to be a news article but only a blurb to keep you up-to-date.  

After you read the blurb and/or view the photo/play the video, you can then use 
a three-finger swipe from right-to-left in order to see another blurb on that 
same topic either by the same source or by another poster.

When you're done, either activate the Close button or perform a single-finger, 
hold, and swipe up gesture to be taken back to the main Moments area.

Okay, I think that about covers the basics.

Good Luck and enjoy,

Mark

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Regina Alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver


The tab is about the middle of the screen just above the home button. Still 
working to even understand twitter so can someone explain to me how moments 
works? I like what is on my screen, but how do I use it to my advantage? I 
listened to Jonathan's podcast on tweetings, and I believe there was a place to 
just get the name of the tweeter. Does the native app have this? There is just 
so much garbage written in the tweet that my ears, well maybe my older brain?, 
can't figure out what is being conveyed. I have not tried to Tweet myself yet 
because I am afraid I will write it wrong: 
reggie & Lex

On Mar 30, 2016, at 2:33 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> wrote:
I don’t know if moments is available in Sweden, but i can’t find that tab on my 
iPhone. Where can that tab be?
/Krister


30 mars 2016 kl. 03:57 skrev M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu>:

Hello Kerri,

Yes, I am excited about Twitter Moments, also.  It's one of the best features 
I've ever used on iPhone.  Although it's difficult to believe, Twitter is now 
my favorite non-essential iOS app (smile).

While I appreciate your gracious compliment regarding my ability to get a 
developer's attention, I suspect that, in this case, it was the combined 
efforts of all of us who took the time to send feedback to Twitter.

To answer your question, more directly, however, I will say that I do pay close 
attention to  establishing and maintaining a relationship with the developers 
of all of the app's that I have come to depend on.  The first step in doing 
this is by not only contacting them when things go wrong but also contacting 
them when things go right.  If an app is essential to my productivity, I always 
volunteer to become a beta tester so that I can ha

iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,  

I am so delighted to let you know that, as of today's update, the iOS native
Twitter app now supports Twitter Moments via VoiceOver.  To begin enjoying
this extremely exciting new feature of Twitter, on your iOS device:

1.
Update to the latest version of Twitter.

2.
Select the Moments tab located on the bottom row of the display.  

Be certain to explore the entire screen as the Moments area has a slightly
different layout than the rest of the Twitter app.  

Also, I am happy to report that every aspect of Moments is accessible via
the app's soft-buttons and by specific VoiceOver gestures including the
3-finger swipe left, to move through a specific thread, and the
single-finger hold, and swipe up gesture, in order to quickly close a thread
and be returned to the main app.  Also, Moments video playback works
flawlessly.  Just remember that in order to hear the video, you must unmute
the sound via a soft-button located near the upper left corner of the
display.

Give yourself plenty of time to explore this new quick and easy way to stay
up-to-date on what's happening around the world.  

Finally, please join me in thanking the developers of Twitter for making
Moments VoiceOver accessible by sending a tweet to either @support or
@twitter, or by sending an email to supp...@twitter.com or by posting a
comment in the app-review area of iTunes.  

Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!

Mark

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RE: TV Guide mobile question

[M. Taylor]

Hi,

It's been a while but, if memory serves, you can perform a 3-finger swipe from 
right-to-left gesture, several times until the screen containing the Finish 
button appears.  If that does not work, then perform the single-finger 
pass-through gesture in order to scroll through the screens, again from right 
to left, until the Finish button is displayed.  Then, activate the Finish 
button.

Mark

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Subject: TV Guide mobile question

I wanted to find out I asked this question before but did not get an answer, 
how does one skip passed the welcome screen on the TV guide mobile application 
for iPhone using voice over?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Voiceover voices

[M. Taylor]

Richard, I got your Alfred reference.  

I loved him, also.  

For those not familiar with Alfred, he was the butler on the 1960s, short-lived 
(only 3 seasons I believe), Batman series.  

Richard, thank you for making me smile, today, with that marvelous memory.

Mark

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Richard Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voiceover voices

Choice of what voice to use is completely subjective.  I, for example, can't 
stand Eloquence, while Sieghard, and many, many others, would like to have it 
on the iPhone.
I generally stick to Samantha and the male British Siri voice.  (What can I 
say, I wish I could afford a British butler, grin,) so Siri will have to do.  
Though, he wouldn't let me call him Alfred.  (Only those of a certain age and 
TV viewing history will get that one.)

However, in Voice Dream Reader 4, I will sometimes use Alex, though I prefer 
Amy for the bulk of my reading.  I know Amy is not a VoiceOver voice, just 
using that as an example of wide differences in listening choices.

I think some voices appeal to some people just like certain music appeals to 
some and not others.

There is my two cents worth.

Richard




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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 6:25 AM
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Subject: RE: Voiceover voices

Hi Marissa,

Just as Dave said, the replies here will be all over the place. Alex definitely 
has a following, I personally can't listen to him for an extended period of 
time. Interestingly enough when I listen to Podcasts where the author uses Alex 
he doesn't sound so bad and my 6S Plus probably has the best sound of all the 
iPhones, but I always come back to Samantha Enhanced. Just last night I tried 
the enhanced male and female SIRI voices again and I think if I were to use one 
I prefer the male one, but like I said, when everything is said and done 
Samantha Enhanced still sounds best to me. It's really too ad we can't have 
Eloquence on the iPhone, that would be so awesome!

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 2:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover voices

you will get everybody's own preference, with this question.

at the end of the day, it is up to your own personal taste!

Dave.

-Original Message-
From: rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 7:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover voices

Hi,
Samantha enhanced here, with pitch change disabled.

Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: Devin Prater 

RE: Syncing Question from New iCloud Drive User

[M. Taylor]

Alan,

If you want to continue to use iTunes as your sync source for your Calendar and 
Contacts, do not, repeat, do not, enable that option in the iCloud Control 
Panel or you will, indeed, end up with duplicates.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 11:22 AM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Syncing Question from New iCloud Drive User

Hello List,

I just installed iCloud for Windows on my Windows 7 computer and have a 
question about syncing before I step in something and end up with duplicates on 
my iPhone 6.

I understand conceptually that with iCloud for Windows, items I have ticked 
such as Outlook contacts and calendars will be kept in sync between my computer 
and the Apple servers hosting the iCloud. I've always synced my contacts and 
calendars and music between my computer and my iPhone using iTunes and expect 
I'll continue to sync my music this way going forward. I just want to make sure 
before turning on contacts and calendars in my iPhone iCloud settings that 
doing this won't cause duplicates.

Can someone who has been using iCloud and iTunes give me a bit of an overview 
and assurance that I won't cause duplication on my phone by turning on iCloud 
contacts and calendars? I also assume the devices are smart enough not to 
duplicate items if I run a sync operation within iTunes. I'm just a bit nervous 
since syncing things to iCloud and having those same items checked to sync in 
iTunes in what I'll call a manual sync seems a bit counter-intuitive. Do those 
who use iCloud for syncing make sure the same things aren't marked for syncing 
in iTunes?

Thanks for any guidance you can offer.

Alan Lemly
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RE: Voiceover voices

[M. Taylor]

As is usually the case, I agree with Sieghard.  

On my Macs, I use Alex for the primary voice with Samantha enhanced for all 
notifications.  

In iOS, I am definitely a Samantha enhanced, man, with the pitch option 
disabled.  

On Zoomtext, by the way, I prefer ViaVoice which is about as close as one can 
get to Eloquence without having Eloquence, itself.  

Of course, in Jaws, I only use Eloquence.

On my Android devices, although there are some really nice voices, including 
Heather, which I used to prefer back in the old days of Windows Mobile, I now 
prefer and use the Google text-to-speech engine (female).  It is very clean and 
crisp-sounding. I believe Eloquence is available in Android but only in the 
MobileSpeak interface. 

Despite all of the advances in speech synthesis, were I given the choice, I 
would definitely use Eloquence for all my voices, especially in iOS.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 6:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voiceover voices

Hi Marissa,

Just as Dave said, the replies here will be all over the place. Alex definitely 
has a following, I personally can't listen to him for an extended period of 
time. Interestingly enough when I listen to Podcasts where the author uses Alex 
he doesn't sound so bad and my 6S Plus probably has the best sound of all the 
iPhones, but I always come back to Samantha Enhanced. Just last night I tried 
the enhanced male and female SIRI voices again and I think if I were to use one 
I prefer the male one, but like I said, when everything is said and done 
Samantha Enhanced still sounds best to me. It's really too ad we can't have 
Eloquence on the iPhone, that would be so awesome!

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 2:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover voices

you will get everybody's own preference, with this question.

at the end of the day, it is up to your own personal taste!

Dave.

-Original Message-
From: rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 7:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover voices

Hi,
Samantha enhanced here, with pitch change disabled.

Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: Devin Prater 

RE: Syncing Question from New iCloud Drive User

[M. Taylor]

Hello Alan,

No problem.  Glad I could help.

As for understanding why Contacts/calendar appointment syncing, on Windows, is 
the way it is, I would ask that you keep in mind that (1) iTunes predates the 
iCloud Control Panel by several years.  In an effort to preserve backward 
compatibility for the various versions of Outlook both synchronization paths 
have to coexist, so-to-speak and (2) there are those who use both Windows and 
OS X without benefit of an iOS device.  Without an iOS device, the iCloud 
Control Panel is the only way to maintain cross-platform synchronization..

Generally, I recommend using the iCloud Control Panel instead of iTunes for 
contact/appointment synchronization if for no other reason than the fact that 
by doing so, one is not required to attach a device to a PC in order to update 
the information.

Regardless, everyone likes what they like and as long as it works, that's all 
that matters.

I would suggest, however, that with the arrival of Windows 10, it may be only a 
matter of time before iTunes for Windows no longer support contact/calendar 
synchronization.  This is just a guess, on my part, nothing more.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 11:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Syncing Question from New iCloud Drive User

Mark,

Thanks much for the warning. I'm glad I asked the question.

I am somewhat perplexed why this causes duplicates but I expect it's that 
syncing works between two devices and throwing a third into the mix messes 
things up. My contacts and calendars are based in Outlook 2010. If that is the 
source of what goes into iTunes and also what goes into iCloud, I don't 
understand why the sync between the phone and either iTunes or iCloud doesn't 
only create items which are in one but not the other.

Alan

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Syncing Question from New iCloud Drive User

Alan,

If you want to continue to use iTunes as your sync source for your Calendar and 
Contacts, do not, repeat, do not, enable that option in the iCloud Control 
Panel or you will, indeed, end up with duplicates.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 11:22 AM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Syncing Question from New iCloud Drive User

Hello List,

I just installed iCloud for Windows on my Windows 7 computer and have a 
question about syncing before I step in something and end up with duplicates on 
my iPhone 6.

I understand conceptually that with iCloud for Windows, items I have ticked 
such as Outlook contacts and calendars will be kept in sync between my computer 
and the Apple servers hosting the iCloud. I've always synced my contacts and 
calendars and music between my computer and my iPhone using iTunes and expect 
I'll continue to sync my music this way going forward. I just want to make sure 
before turning on contacts and calendars in my iPhone iCloud settings that 
doing this won't cause duplicates.

Can someone who has been using iCloud and iTunes give me a bit of an overview 
and assurance that I won't cause duplication on my phone by turning on iCloud 
contacts and calendars? I also assume the devices are smart enough not to 
duplicate items if I run a sync operation within iTunes. I'm just a bit nervous 
since syncing things to iCloud and having those same items checked to sync in 
iTunes in what I'll call a manual sync seems a bit counter-intuitive. Do those 
who use iCloud for syncing make sure the same things aren't marked for syncing 
in iTunes?

Thanks for any guidance you can offer.

Alan Lemly
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RE: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[M. Taylor]

I just wanted to say that I concur with Ed in that I am a huge fan of Seeing 
Eye GPS.  

While I am so grateful to the developer of Blind Square, for such a marvelously 
comprehensive app, I find that, for day-to-day navigation on busses and in 
taxis, etc, I use Seeing Eye more often.

Mark 

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Ed Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

Hello,

It uses the Google maps. It might have the Canada maps as it does not store 
maps off line. It just gets it’s maps info from google or even the Open Street 
Maps Project. It all depends on which one you have selected in the settings.

I hope that this helps.

Ed
On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Brian Moore  wrote:

well, perhaps I should try seeing eye gps.  not sure if it even has maps for 
Canada but easy enough to find out.  does it store maps off line? would prefer 
not as I have a rather large data bucket but it might be handy.  With blind 
square, the announcement stuff is pretty automatic. I mostly use it when going 
somewhere new to keep me clued in on where I am.  Typically, for route 
planning, I use google maps to get turn by turn or work out transit things in 
cities where I have never been.
I have navigon but last time I tried, I couldn't work out how to get maps 
properly.

Brian.

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On 04/06/2016 2:28 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
I may just try the free 30 day trial option again, and see how I like it. One 
of the reasons I didn't like it, and this wasn't really the app's fault, was 
that it ran super, super slowly on my iPhone 4S. Google Maps and Lyft used to 
do this as well, but both of those apps are now running great on my iPhone 6S, 
so hopefully the same will be true for Seeing Eye GPS.


Thanks,
Ari

On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
Hey Guys, 

I am on the opposite side of the coin. I find the Seeing Eye GPS app much more 
intuitive for my use. I really love the improvements to the app with the newest 
update. The tabs down at the bottom of the app screen are now all on one level, 
and for low vision users they have added some new text and interface color 
options. Just a note I am not low vision but my business partner loves the 
improvements to the low vision aspect of the app now. I have found the look 
around features of The Seeing Eye app to more than adequate. But once again 
different strokes for different folks.

Just thought I would throw my two sense into the conversation.

Ed
On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:

Hi,
You can change the intersection distance from short, medium or long inside the 
app setting. I periodicaly shake my phone to check my location to get updates. 
Hope that helps.Regards, 
Feliciano
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On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:03 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I think 
BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something that will tell 
me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaround used to do before it broke. 
So, my question is, I know BlindSquare can do what I want, but does it do it 
automatically, or can I do something to make it happen? I'd rather have the 
feature be a manual control, like in Sendero Lookaround.


Thanks,
Ari

On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:
I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero GPS on 
my voice note. I did like it because it was so similar with the turn by turns. 
Price wise, I  switched to BSQ and have been enjoying it ever since. I use it 
with Navagon and it has been a treat. I was told that I can virtually walk 
through an area to see what is around there. As soon as I figure out how to do 
it I'm going to practice practice practice. This was a feature I used 
frequently on my Sendero GPS.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
I too found BlindSquare better for look around features. If the turn by turn 
directions of seeing eye gps can be had on blindsquare, it'd be great. I use 
blindsquare simotaniously with google maps and i get theinformation i need.

Regards, 
Feliciano
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On Apr 5, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
Hello.  I just made a comparison between sendero and blindsquare and 
blindsquare came out head and shoulders ahead for my needs.  I brought up 
sendero and got a breadcrumb to my 

RE: Most recent upgrade: 9.3.1

[M. Taylor]

Jewel,

The update from 9.3 to 9.3.1 was primarily to fix an activation bug.  

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jewel
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Most recent upgrade: 9.3.1

 
It is only 2 or 3 weeks since I upgraded to 9.3, but for the past week, Apple 
has been advising me that it will, if I wish, automatically upgrade my phone to 
9.3.1.
I have been ignoring its kind offer, but last night, I took the bull by the 
horns and told it to go ahead and download the upgrade.
It appears that I had nothing to fear for, as far as I can see, the only thing 
that I had to do in settings was to set up "Hey Siri.
Does anyone know what improvements/bug fixes .1 has made?
 
Jewel
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RE: iTunes, jaws and win10.

[M. Taylor]

Jenifer,

I have much success using the Jaws 17 Touch Cursor in the iTunes application on 
Windows 10.  

Give it a try.

Mark

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Jenifer Barr
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 7:23 PM
To: viphone
Subject: iTunes, jaws and win10.

Hi all.
I'm having a horrible time navigating the latest iTunes with jaws 17.
Nothing seems to be accessible.  IE... I'm trying to download some purchased TV 
shows to my computer, and selecting things with space seems to do nothing.  Is 
anyone else having issues with iTunes and jaws?  I'm so sorry if this is O/T, 
but I'm desperate.  I'm using the latest version... bot sure what it is, sorry. 
 I'm also using jaws 17.
Thanks to *anyone* who can help me!
(smile)
Jen

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RE: An app for news from Associated press

[M. Taylor]

Hello Olga,

Is there some reason why you do not use Twitter and simply choose to follow the 
Associated Press, setting Tweet notifications to on?  Doing so would give you 
push notifications, allowing you to see the headlines with the ability to drill 
down to the entire article.  You could use the same method for CNN or any other 
news source you choose to follow.

Mark

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From: 'Olga Koeva' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An app for news from Associated press

   Hi Anna and others!
  Thanks for the info! I tried all the apps you have recommended. The AP app 
doesn't work. When I open it, you have to log in with some URL (I have no idea 
which URL I have to write), username and password. Is it this app you mean? The 
Breaking News shows only the topics of each piece of news. I can't see the 
details, the detailed reports. Is there any news app where you can find 
detailed news?
Best regards, Olya

Sendt fra min iPhone

> Den 25. mar. 2016 kl. 18.01 skrev Woody Anna Dresner :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Breaking News has the option of selecting many sources from which to get 
> alerts. One is Associated Press.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 9:00 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
>> 
>> Asociated Press should get you the result. I mainly use it for alerts. The 
>> app could use some accessibility work, but a voiceover user can get around 
>> it. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Olga Koeva
>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 2:06 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: An app for news from Associated press
>> 
>>   Hi Cristóbal! 
>> What's the name of this app? What do I have to type in the App Store in 
>> order to find it? Unfortunately, the Native News app is not available for my 
>> country and the languages I use on my iPhone.
>>Best regards, Olya
>> 
>> Sendt fra min iPhone
>> 
>>> Den 24. mar. 2016 kl. 20.54 skrev Cristóbal :
>>> 
>>> There is an AP iOS app. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 12:30 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: An app for news from Associated press
>>> 
>>> Probably on both counts. I would imagine that you could also get A.P.
>>> news coverage through the native News app in iOS 9.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
 On 3/24/16, Olga Koeva  wrote:
  Hi all!
 Does anybody know if there is an accessible app in order to read 
 news from the company Associated press? If so, is it free of charge?
 I thank you in advance.
Best regards, Olya
 
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RE: iTunes, jaws and win10.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jenifer,

It is important to note that you do not need an actual touch-screen in order to 
use the Jaws Touch Cursor.  

Effectively, the Touch Cursor acts a bit like a linear form of VoiceOver.  This 
is to say, the cursor will find and, if possible, interact with all of the 
elements on the display, including those not accessible to the Jaws or PC 
Cursor.  Generally speaking, use the Jaws key plus the arrow keys to explore 
the display with the Touch Cursor.

I use it, almost exclusively with iTunes whenever the standard command or tab 
key navigation does not take me to my desired destination.

Braille functionality notwithstanding, It is, by far and away, my favorite 
feature of Jaws, these days.

Mark. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes, jaws and win10.

Hi Jen, I have to get to work and maybe Mark will explain more, but here is a 
bit about the touch cursor.
The Touch Cursor was first introduced in 2014 with the release of Jaws 15.  You 
invoke the touch cursor with Shift+PC cursor. After that if you press the PC 
cursor button (Numpad+) Jaws will say "Touch cursor, double tap to activate the 
PC cursor".

You can read more here:

http://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter/archives/trainingdocs/2014-07-24_windows8-easi/03_AppsWithJAWS15.htm

This article talks about Jaws 15, but all that is said about the touch cursor 
is the same in Jaws 17 and it gives you an overview. It is a good idea to learn 
about this and all the other features of Jaws that are new because I think a 
lot of fairly long-term Jaws users know what they know from way back and often 
don't even take advantage of the new features. I have run into this before 
where like you somebody didn't even know about a fairly major and useful 
feature several years after it was first released.
I always find it useful to keep up with what is new in each version by 
listening to Jonathan Mosen's FS Cast. Each year in the fall when a new Jaws 
version is released he does a series of Podcasts which introduce the new 
features and give an overview.

Having said all this, I actually don't use the touch cursor much in iTunes, 
I'll actually have to give it a try myself tonight, but so far I can usually 
get to where I want to be and do what I want to do using F6 and the tab key. I 
have purchased 2 seasons of Star Trek Voyager and I'll take a look tonight and 
then if you like we can chat some more, feel free to take it off-list since 
it's not totally iOS related at this point, email me at siegh...@live.ca.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jenifer Barr
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes, jaws and win10.

Thanks Mark.
Sorry but new to win 10... what's the touch cursor?  Forgive my ignorance.
Jen

On 4/9/16, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> Jenifer,
>
> I have much success using the Jaws 17 Touch Cursor in the iTunes 
> application on Windows 10.
>
> Give it a try.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 7:23 PM
> To: viphone
> Subject: iTunes, jaws and win10.
>
> Hi all.
> I'm having a horrible time navigating the latest iTunes with jaws 17.
> Nothing seems to be accessible.  IE... I'm trying to download some 
> purchased TV shows to my computer, and selecting things with space 
> seems to do nothing.  Is anyone else having issues with iTunes and 
> jaws?  I'm so sorry if this is O/T, but I'm desperate.  I'm using the 
> latest version... bot sure what it is, sorry.  I'm also using jaws 17.
> Thanks to *anyone* who can help me!
> (smile)
> Jen
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Mark on Apple TV 4th Generation, A Quick Follow UP

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I must say that I am enjoying my Apple TV 4th Gen more and more.  

I downloaded the YouTube app, among many others, and paired it with my
mobile phone/Google account so now everything I do in the iOS YouTube app or
in a  web browser, appears on the Apple TV app and, vice-versa.  YouTube is
really quite nice, especially when on a big screen.

While I have not yet downloaded any games, I look forward to experimenting
with a few in the coming days.

I honestly didn't think there would be much difference between the 4th gen
and the second generation Apple TV.  I am delighted to see that I was quite
mistaken.

Mark

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RE: Voiceover voices

[M. Taylor]

Hello Paul,

I setup a different voice for notifications using the VoiceOver Activities 
feature.  In order to make certain that I would not forget how to setup such a 
service, I wrote a short document, the contents of which, I will paste in, 
below.  

Hopefully, it will provide enough information to get you started.

Okay, here it is:

How To Set A VoiceOver Activity for Notification Center info

NOTE:
This document assumes that you know how to create and configure VoiceOver 
Activities.

Generally speaking, I prefer my default system VO Voice to be Alex.  However, I 
want any and all of my system notifications to use my beloved Samantha voice.  

The short answer:

To set a VoiceOver Activity for the Mac OSX Notification Center, when selecting 
a finder app in the Activity configuration process, simply locate the 
Notification Center app and select it.  The notification app is located in the 
Core Services Folder of the Library folder which is located on the hard drive’s 
system folder.

The long answer is that when you Click on the Find App option during the 
Activity creation process, you will be placed in the Applications folder.  The 
Notification Center app is located in a different place.  You must find the 
correct folder and then simply select the Notifications.app file.

A.
First, open the computer’s hard drive.
Second, open the System folder.
Third, open the Library folder.
Fourth, open the CoreServices folder.
Fifth, select the Notification.app file.

or 

B.
Use the Command + Shift + G key-combo and type in 
/System/Library/CoreServices/ 
to get to the correct folder, super fast.

Good Luck and Enjoy.

Mark  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Parravano
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover voices

Hi Mark,

Can I ask please how you establish a separate voice for  notifications on the 
Mac?
Thanks,

Paul


> On Apr 6, 2016, at 13:53, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> As is usually the case, I agree with Sieghard.  
> 
> On my Macs, I use Alex for the primary voice with Samantha enhanced for all 
> notifications.  
> 
> In iOS, I am definitely a Samantha enhanced, man, with the pitch option 
> disabled.  
> 
> On Zoomtext, by the way, I prefer ViaVoice which is about as close as one can 
> get to Eloquence without having Eloquence, itself.  
> 
> Of course, in Jaws, I only use Eloquence.
> 
> On my Android devices, although there are some really nice voices, including 
> Heather, which I used to prefer back in the old days of Windows Mobile, I now 
> prefer and use the Google text-to-speech engine (female).  It is very clean 
> and crisp-sounding. I believe Eloquence is available in Android but only in 
> the MobileSpeak interface. 
> 
> Despite all of the advances in speech synthesis, were I given the choice, I 
> would definitely use Eloquence for all my voices, especially in iOS.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 6:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voiceover voices
> 
> Hi Marissa,
> 
> Just as Dave said, the replies here will be all over the place. Alex 
> definitely has a following, I personally can't listen to him for an extended 
> period of time. Interestingly enough when I listen to Podcasts where the 
> author uses Alex he doesn't sound so bad and my 6S Plus probably has the best 
> sound of all the iPhones, but I always come back to Samantha Enhanced. Just 
> last night I tried the enhanced male and female SIRI voices again and I think 
> if I were to use one I prefer the male one, but like I said, when everything 
> is said and done Samantha Enhanced still sounds best to me. It's really too 
> ad we can't have Eloquence on the iPhone, that would be so awesome!
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dave
> Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 2:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voiceover voices
> 
> you will get everybody's own preference, with this question.
> 
> at the end of the day, it is up to your own personal taste!
> 
> Dave.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: rajmund
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 7:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voiceover voices
> 
> Hi,
> Samantha enhanced here, with pitch change disabled.
> 
> Sent from a BrailleNote
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 00:16:55 -0500
> Subject: Re:

A Question About Using the BARD App for Reading a Braille Book with a Focus 40 Blue Braille Display

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I recently downloaded a Braille title in the BARD app on my 6 Plus running
the latest version of iOS.  I am using my Focus 40 Blue as the Braille
display.  The firmware on my Focus is v4.59.

My questions are:

1.
Can I jump from page one to page 2 using only the display, itself?  If so,
how?

2.
Is there any way to configure the system so I can use the left Whiz Wheel or
button in order to pan forward?  I read Braille with my right index finger
and having to both transverse the display along with subsequently having to
press a navigation button with the same hand is causing quite a lot of
fatigue.  In short, is it possible to reverse pan?  

Any and all tips and tricks for reading Braille on the Focus 40 in the BARD
app would be greatly appreciated.

Mark


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iOS 9.3 Native Camera App Zoom Is Still Not VoiceOver Accessible

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this notice.

To my dismay, I can confirm that the iOS 9.3 native camera app zoom is still
not voiceOver accessible.

This feature has not been VoiceOver accessible since iOS 8.1.3, if memory
serves.  

In order to zoom in on an image, one has to first disable VoiceOver then,
zoom to the desired amount, then, without dismissing the camera app,
re-enable VoiceOver, then take the shot.  

It could be worse, I suppose.  At one time, during one of the beta cycles,
re-enabling VoiceOver actually cancelled the zoom, altogether.

Mark

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RE: something weird with ibooks on ios 9.3

[M. Taylor]

Okay, Because this may effect others, I am going to cross post this.

After reading this thread, I discovered that there appears to be a bug in 
iBooks iOS 9.3.

When the Purchases Tab is activated, in iBooks, the display changes to a list 
view as follows:

Updates, Books, then Audio Books.

If one selects one of these items, for example Audio Books, a secondary list 
view describing categories such as All Books, Recent Purchases, Business, 
Fiction, etc is displayed.  

It is this secondary list that is currently inaccessible via VoiceOver.  
However, if one disables VoiceOver, then selects one of these secondary list 
items, then re-enables VoiceOver, the resulting lists of titles is VoiceOver 
accessible.

So, please join me in reporting this bug to Apple.

I hope this helps.

Mark

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Anouk Radix
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: something weird with ibooks on ios 9.3

Hi, i dont see the icloud only books on the my books tab unfortunately, just 
the ones that are actually on the phone.
I checked on the mac and there I can see the books that are in icloud so they 
are still there, at least i just cant see them on the iphone.
Greetings, Anou,
> On 23 Mar 2016, at 19:47, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Yes. I don't tend to look at purchased books. I just go to my books. But I 
> just did that after seeing your message, and I'm not seeing anything. Not in 
> the books all or not in the books not on my iPhone. Nothing. But my books all 
> seem to be there. If I go to the my books tab, there are lots of books, many 
> of which are not on the phone, and those say download from iCloud. So, I'm 
> not sure what's going on.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I use ios 9.3 with voiceover speech no zoom. I cant seem to review my 
>> purchased books. I go to my purchases within ibooks and then select books 
>> and then books not on my iphone bu tnothing results while i know books 
>> should be there. Anyone else experiencing this?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
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RE: Still can't Log in to Audible

[M. Taylor]

Hello Kathy,

Have you attempted to login to the Audible website, directly, from a web 
browser?  If so, were you allowed access?

Just curious.

Mark

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Kathy Blackburn
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Still can't Log in to Audible

I spoke with another tech support person at Audible today. I could hear 
voiceOver on the iPhone she was using.  While she could not reproduce my 
problem, she was not dismissive toward me.  We went through the drill of 
uninstalling the app, powering off the phone and rebooting it, and 
re-installing the app, despite having already done those things last week when 
I spoke with the first tech support rep.  I still can't log in. Once I have 
entered my email address, when I attempt to open the password field, I hear a 
sort of wup-wup noise. The keyboard disappears. 
I see "forgot password?" and "Need Help?" and I don't remember if there's 
anything else.  Somehow, the rep had me get to a place where I could send a bug 
report that apparently gives them some specifics about my phone.  I would like 
to get back to that home screen to try Sieghard's suggestion about logging out, 
but I don't remember how the rep got me to that if I couldn't log in.  I'm 
about ready to remove the app from my phone permanently.

Kathy Blackburn
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RE: iTunes hangs during latest iOS update

[M. Taylor]

Hello Lisa,

As of this moment, Apple has pulled the iOS 9.3 update from its servers for 
iPhone 5 S and earlier devices, including the iPad 2.  This is because, for 
some, 9.3 was rendering the devices useless.  Consider yourself lucky, at this 
point although many iPhone 5 owners updated successfully.  

According to various sources on the web, Apple expects to re-release 9.3 in a 
couple of days.

Mark 

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Lisa Belville
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 9:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes hangs during latest iOS update

Hi, all.

I'm using an iPhone 5 with Verizon.  I tried updating to 9.21 tonight using 
iTunes version 12.1.3.6 and got a message saying the phone couldn't be updated 
due to an unknown error.  The code given was 3014.  The Apple site indicates 
this is one of the many codes indicating iTunes and/or the phone can't 
communicate with the server.

I've reconnected the phone and launched iTunes again and had the same issue. 
I've restarted the PC.  I have verified that I have the latest version of 
iTunes my PC can support.  I'm using an ancient PC with windows XP. 
Upgrading isn't an option for me, right now.

I can try doing the update over the air, but I feel more secure with iTunes.

Also, I have no issues either connecting or synching with this version of 
iTunes.  It gets to the point of extracting the software and preparing the 
phone for updates and then the process hangs with that 3014 error code.

Any ideas?

TIA

Lisa

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RE: Option to update 9.3 is gone now

[M. Taylor]

Hello David,

As of today, Apple has pulled the iOS 9.3 update from its servers for iPhone 5 
S and earlier devices, including the iPad 2.  This is because, for some, 9.3 
was rendering the devices useless.  Consider yourself lucky, at this point 
although many iPhone 5 owners updated successfully.  

According to various sources on the web, Apple expects to re-release 9.3 in a 
couple of days.

Mark

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David Cleveland
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 6:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Option to update 9.3 is gone now

For some reason when I go into  update I know longer have the option to go to 
9.3. It was there on Monday after the Apple event but I decided to wait a 
little bit. How can I get it back?

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RE: How is accessibility in the Overdrive app?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Keith,

There was an update to the Overdrive app, today.

Your question is difficult to answer, at least, in my opinion.

Let me say the following:

While I like the app for reserving and downloading/enjoying audio books from my 
local library system, I do have some residual vision that plays a role in my 
Overdrive experience.

2.
While the app is certainly VoiceOver accessible, I cannot say that it is 
particularly VoiceOver friendly--especially for someone who is totally blind.

3.
The app is best when use frequently as muscle memory, with regard to the layout 
and functionality of the app, can greatly enhance one's experience.  

My overall point of view is that one can never learn too much or have too many 
proverbial tools in his/her toolbox so, if you have the time and energy, give 
the app a spin.  Having said this, I would not generally recommend it for 
anyone who does not consider themselves an advanced VoiceOver user.

This is just my opinion, of course.

Mark

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Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 11:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How is accessibility in the Overdrive app?

Hi,

Is anyone using the Overdrive app? It's used by our local library for e books 
and audio books. When I first tried it, several years ago, it was quite painful.

If others are successfully using it, maybe I'll give it another try.

Thanks in advance, Keith

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Tim Cook Introduces a New Way to Receive Support for Your Apple Products

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am cross posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing
list.

Those of you who follow Tim Cook on Twitter, as I do, saw a tweet from him,
earlier today, introducing, @AppleSupport.  @AppleSupport is yet another way
Apple customers can now receive support for all of their Apple products via
Twitter.

I am already following @AppleSupport and, for the time being, I have my
settings such that I will be automatically notified of any tweets posted by
@AppleSupport.  You may wish to do the same.

While on the subject of Twitter, those of you who, like me, want to see
Twitter Moments be made VoiceOver accessible in the native iOS Twitter app,
can send a message to @ support via your Twitter client or you may send an
email, requesting the feature, to, supp...@twitter.com

Finally, my personal Twitter handle/name is
@Markmarcus.

See you on Twitter.

Mark

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RE: A Question About Safari Reader in iOS 9.x

[M. Taylor]

Thank you Kimberly.

That's exactly what I needed to know.  It works great.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 1:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question About Safari Reader in iOS 9.x

The reader button presents the content of a web page in a clean, VO friendly 
format. When you hear VO say reader available, locate the address bar at the 
top of the screen then flick left. Double tap the reader button then perform a 
two finger flick to begin reading your content.

I hope this helps.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

> On Mar 2, 2016, at 3:44 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I am truly embarrassed to ask what must be, to some, a very basic 
> question but ...
> 
> Exactly how does one use the reader feature in Safari for iOS?
> 
> Sometimes, I land on a page at which point VoiceOver says, "reader 
> available".  What exactly does this mean and what steps do I take if I 
> wish to use it?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
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A Question About Safari Reader in iOS 9.x

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am truly embarrassed to ask what must be, to some, a very basic question
but ...

Exactly how does one use the reader feature in Safari for iOS?

Sometimes, I land on a page at which point VoiceOver says, "reader
available".  What exactly does this mean and what steps do I take if I wish
to use it?  

Thank you,

Mark

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RE: How to transfer Somethig Else games to iTunes to be coppied to my new iPhone (when I eventually get it)?

[M. Taylor]

You're quite welcome, Ari.

Alan, thanks for re-posting this information.

For the record, I continue to use the technique described in the listed steps I 
posted.

Mark


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to transfer Somethig Else games to iTunes to be coppied to my 
new iPhone (when I eventually get it)?

Alan and Mark, thanks for this. I'm going to be copying this and putting it on 
my computer for reference purposes. :)


Thanks,
Ari

> On Mar 1, 2016, at 8:04 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Ari,
> 
> I'm re-posting Mark's original message on this subject which was titled How 
> To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps and sent Fri 
> 10/30/2015 9:32 PM. You can find his message following my signature.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I am cross-posting this to both V iPhone and Mac Visionaries.
> 
> NOTE 1:
> This document assume that you do not use the automatic app update feature on 
> your iOS device.
> 
> NOTE 2:
> The following applies to those who use an iOS device in conjunction with 
> iTunes on a computer, only.
> 
> As we have all experienced, there are times when updates to an app can break 
> VoiceOver accessibility.
> 
> In iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming that one had previously synchronized with 
> iTunes on a computer, if an update broke accessibility for a particular app, 
> one could simply delete the newly updated copy of the app from the iOS device 
> and then, connect the device to the computer and install the older version of 
> the app, back to the iOS device.
> 
> This was possible because in iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming app WiFi syncing 
> was not enabled, the synchronization process included copying any newly 
> downloaded app from the iOS device into the iTunes Library located on the 
> computer.  
> 
> As of iOS 9.x, the synchronization process between the iOS device and the 
> computer, no longer includes copying apps from the device to the computer.  
> 
> For those of us who rely on VoiceOver accessibility, this new process means 
> that should an updated app break VoiceOver access, we can no longer restore 
> an earlier version of the app using the same time-tested method as we have 
> all come to enjoy.
> 
> Before I continue, I urge all of you to please contact Apple and express how 
> significant this change in the synchronization process affects those of us 
> who are blind or low vision.
> 
> The good news is that there is a simple workaround, so to speak, available to 
> those of us who want to insure that we always have an accessible copy of an 
> app.  
> 
> Just update the app in iTunes before connecting the iOS device.  Updating 
> apps, in iTunes on the computer, actually downloads a full copy of the app in 
> the .IPA format which, just as always, can be copied to any authorized iOS 
> compatible device.  
> 
> Confused?  Don't be; the following example should help clarify the process:
> 
> [BEGIN EXAMPLE]
> DAY ONE:
> 
> 1.
> You're very happy with all of your currently installed apps.  Your favorite 
> app is the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and you don't want to lose VoiceOver 
> accessibility to it, should it be updated.
> 
> 2.
> You want to make certain that you have a full copy of this accessible version 
> of the app on your computer, just in case any future updates break its 
> accessibility.
> 
> 3.
> On your computer, you open iTunes and navigate to the Apps area.  You locate 
> the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and, Click the Update button.  This will update 
> a full copy of the app on your computer to the same version that is currently 
> on your iOS device.  Remember, you will only do this if you like the current 
> version that is on your iOS device.  Because you like to plan for worse case 
> scenarios, you decide to perform such an update for all of your 
> mission-critical apps like those having to do with banking, GPS navigation, 
> etc.
> 
> DAY TWO:
> 
> 1.
> Upon checking the App Store, on your iOS device, you discover that there is 
> an update to the Candle Shore BLOG.com app.  
> 
> 2.
> You update the app and discover, to your dismay, that VoiceOver accessibility 
> has been broken.
> 
> 3.
> You immediately delete the app from your iOS device.
> 
> 4.
> Now, you connect the iOS device to your computer and, from within iTunes, you 
> install the older, accessible, copy of the app, back to the iOS device, just 
> as you would have done in iOS 8.x.
> [END EXAMPLE]
> 
> The bottom line is that if you are currently running iOS 9.x or later, you 
> should manually update any important apps, on your computer, now, before any 
> future updates break them.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, February 

RE: App for Transfering Music from i Device to Mac iTunes

[M. Taylor]

Hello Marc.

Although I haven't used it in over a year, the Senuti app, used to be 
marvelously VoiceOver accessible.  This is not a free app.  

Senuti is simply iTunes spelled backwards.  

It was a life-savor for me a while back when I lost my iTunes Library and had 
to copy all of the media from my phone back to my Mac.

Good Luck,

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marc Sutton
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 8:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: App for Transfering Music from i Device to Mac iTunes

Hi,
Does anyone know of an accessible app for transferring music from an iPhone or 
similar device to iTunes on a Mac. iTunes wants to delete music if it is on a 
device but not on the Mac's iTunes due to its syncing criteria.
Thanks.
Marc
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RE: is amazon music for I devices and pc accessible?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Larry,

I have not used the iOS Amazon Music app.  However, I can tell you that the 
Windows version of the app does not play nicely with ZoomText.  In fact, I 
recently installed it on my Windows 10 computer only to remove it about an hour 
later.  

To be honest, assuming that you are using a modern browser on your PC, the 
Amazon browser experience is completely screen-reader friendly.  All of the 
buttons are labeled and, to me anyway, are arranged in a logical order.

After purchasing music from Amazon, I simply download the track or tracks, as 
the case may be, to my PC for playback and eventual iPod use.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 7:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: is amazon music for I devices and pc accessible?

The subject says it.  Are the ios and pc apps for amazon music accessible?  The 
amazon music player I downloaded years ago wasn’t very accessible.

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Mark's First Favorite Apple TV 4th Generation App

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Well, today I spent some time exploring the App Store on the new TV OS.  
As silly as it sounds, my first favorite new app is a free one called Big
Red Clock.  Just as the name implies, this is a huge digital clock that can
serve as a countdown timer.  The numbers can be any one of about 10
different colors.  

While this app is VoiceOver accessible in that all of the menus are voiced,
it is definitely for the low vision.  

I have an approximately 50 inch television and I just love the size of the
digits on my display.  

Even when I was not watching anything on the television, I left the app
running as seeing it just made me smile.  

I had a couple of sighted guests over this evening and when they saw the
app, they began laughing and now want to purchase a new Apple TV just so
they can download apps from the app store.

I also discovered the free Word of Promise audio Bible app.  Very, very
nice.

Of course, I also downloaded the Audible book app.  

This new Apple TV may be come a major, quote, player, quote, in my home.
(smile)

Mark

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RE: comparing: Openbook vs K1000

[M. Taylor]

Hello,

As the list moderator, I request that this thread be closed as it is off-topic.

Thank you.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tony
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 7:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing: Openbook vs K1000

I checked that but only found his name and not his address.  Don’t know why it 
happened that way.  I usually do as you suggest just to keep more stuff off the 
list.

Thanks

Tony


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing: Openbook vs K1000

Hi Tony,

Just for future reference, if you ever want to reply to somebody directly, 
every poster’s email address is available in the “From” field. In Kevin’s case 
it would say this:

viphone@googlegroups.com; on behalf of; Kevin Chao 

All you have to do is navigate to the the From field and click on the email or 
copy it and then start a new message and paste it in.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tony
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 5:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing: Openbook vs K1000

I would have sent this directly to you rather than adding to the list clutter 
if your address had been available.

I’m not the mod, why are you wasting my time and that of others on this list?  

The only one who can answer your question is the mod and you should send your 
questions there and not to the list.

If you don’t get a response from the mod then you have your answer.

Tony
t...@k5twz.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 6:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: comparing: Openbook vs K1000

Why are these non-Mac apps being discussed on this list then?

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 2:20 PM Gary Petraccaro  wrote:
Everybody's hoping this will happen, but it's not currently the case with K1000.
 
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Chao 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: comparing: Openbook vs K1000

Is Open Book and K1000 available for Mac? This is news?
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:24 AM Regina Alvarado  
wrote:

Cara? I was under the impression questions about the Mac and any other Apple 
product could be asked here. I think Joanne asked for a Windows but said she 
was using her Mac? I am politely asking what the rules are here. Thanks for 
clarification as I am about to embark on really trying to understand my Mac 
Mini. Right now doing everything on iPhone and iPad, but one can't do 
everything mobile. 
reggie & Lex

On Mar 30, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
I don't think that's the case. I assume you're being sarcastic, and you just 
meant to politely point out that this is off topic for this list and the poster 
might have a better chance getting this question answered on a list where it's 
more on topic.

On 30/03/16 04:36, Scott Davert wrote:
Kurzweil 1000 and Openbook now have apps? How awesome! I mean, that
must be what this is if it's on a list for the iPhone, right?

Scott

On 3/30/16, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
I have Openbook simply because I first bought Arkenstone  in 1993, and have

stuck with it over the years because upgrading it the two times I did were
so much cheaper than buying Kurtzweil.  .  If I were going to get it now, I

would get Kurtzweil  without a second thought.

But to get this topic back to the topic of this list, unless you are wanting

to scan a lot of books, I would get KNFB reader for my I device, along with

one of the reading stands, especially since you say you already have ABBY
Find reader  for an iMac.  I would be really hard pressed to want to pay a
thousand dollars, or whatever it is, for Openbook or Kurtzweil unless I were

in college, or were wanting to use it for some professional purpose.

Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message -
From: "Joanne Chua" 
To: "undisclosed-recipients:"
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 2:05 AM
Subject: Ot: comparing: Openbook vs K1000


Hi there,

In i'm the market of getting an OCR software. I have experience with
both software in the pass, some versions ago.  Just wondering, for
those that may have use both or  have experience with both software,
especially the openbook 9 and k1000 14, what is the advantes and
disadvantages of each other?

What do you like about openbook and k1000?

I can get the Pearl camera with the openbook however, that is not my
first consideration. I need an OCR software that can scan accurate,
fast, and reliable.

I have ABBY Find reader on my IMac, however, i'm looking for some
window os solution.

Thanks for all the suggestions, comments and thoughtss

Regards

RE: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

[M. Taylor]

Hello Krister,

Here in the USA, the iOS Twitter Moments Tab is located on the bottom row of 
the display between the Notifications Tab and the Messages Tab.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 11:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

I don’t know if moments is available in Sweden, but i can’t find that tab on my 
iPhone. Where can that tab be?
/Krister

> 30 mars 2016 kl. 03:57 skrev M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu>:
> 
> Hello Kerri,
> 
> Yes, I am excited about Twitter Moments, also.  It's one of the best features 
> I've ever used on iPhone.  Although it's difficult to believe, Twitter is now 
> my favorite non-essential iOS app (smile).
> 
> While I appreciate your gracious compliment regarding my ability to get a 
> developer's attention, I suspect that, in this case, it was the combined 
> efforts of all of us who took the time to send feedback to Twitter.
> 
> To answer your question, more directly, however, I will say that I do pay 
> close attention to  establishing and maintaining a relationship with the 
> developers of all of the app's that I have come to depend on.  The first step 
> in doing this is by not only contacting them when things go wrong but also 
> contacting them when things go right.  If an app is essential to my 
> productivity, I always volunteer to become a beta tester so that I can have 
> direct access to the development team.  
> 
> Some companies, however, do not use external beta testers.  In these 
> instances, I write up very detailed bug reports describing the problem and 
> then submit the reports via whatever feedback channels are available.
> 
> Kerri, time-and-time again I have seen proof that posting comments/bug 
> reports in the app-review area of iTunes can yield incredible results; 
> including being contacted by the developer.
> 
> So, when I want to get the attention of a developer for an accessibility bug 
> I:
> 
> 1.
> Determine when and how the bug occurs.  
> 
> 2.
> Write a detailed bug report describing the bug and how it impedes my ability 
> to use the app.
> 
> 3.
> Submit the report via the app-review section of iTunes.
> 
> 4.
> Submit the report to any additional feedback channels.
> 
> 5.
> Post a message to the group requesting support on the issue.  Because so many 
> people are so busy, these days, I generally include a generic version of my 
> bug report and invite group members to use any or all of it in their 
> submissions.  I also include any feedback channels in the post.
> 
> 6.
> Contact the developer via Twitter/Facebook, if possible.  My experience is 
> that Twitter is more direct but that's probably because I pay more attention 
> to Twitter.
> 
> 7.
> If an when the bug is resolved, I contact the developer using all of the 
> methods described above, thanking them for their efforts.
> 
> 8.
> Update the group list on the new status of the app and invite members to 
> offer their thanks to the developer, as well.
> 
> Finally, Kerri, thank you for posting this particular question to the list 
> and know that I and others will support your efforts as, when it's all said 
> and done, we are all in this together.
> 
> Most Sincerely,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kerri Kosten
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via 
> VoiceOver
> 
> Mark:
> I am so excited about this.
> I am wondering though how you went about first getting the Twitter developers 
> attention to this problem, and then next convincing them to fix this.
> I really wish the Snapchat app would become more accessible because Snapchat 
> is becoming hugely popular and is now being used for communication purposes.
> Did the Twitter developers just pay attention to  the review you posted of 
> their app in the ITunes app store?
> Did you take any other steps to alert them or anything?
> I am asking all of this because I want to try to do a similar thing with 
> Snapchat and get them to make Snapchat accessible.
> I am so excited about moments though!!! I can finally now really clean out my 
> Twitter follow list and now I can follow top stories without having to follow 
> tons of people!!
> Thanks so much Mark!!
> Kerri
> 
> On 3/29/16, Mário Navarro <mario@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> hi.
>> this is the official tweeter app.
>> search only for Tweeter.
>> cheers.
>

USA Today's Web's Best Kept Secret? Free classic radio dramas

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I thought I would paste in the following USA Today article as you may find
it useful.  The link to the original article is located at the end of the
text.

Enjoy,

Mark

Web's Best Kept Secret? Free classic radio dramas

By Marc Saltzman, Special for USA TODAY 
March 25, 2016

If you're looking to fill up your smartphone, tablet or laptop with great
content, there's a lot more than just music, videos, ebooks, and games.

Without costing a dime, there are many tens of thousands of "old time radio"
shows - from the golden age of radio - available for streaming or
downloading.

You might be asking yourself "Why would a future-looking technology
journalist want to fill up his phone with radio dramas popularized in the
'40s and '50s?"

Yes, I see the irony. But you'd be pleasantly surprised at how entertaining
these are - and they've kept me sane while commuting in a car or resting my
eyes on a plane. Or, in many instances, I'm playing a game on my phone or
tablet while listening to these shows at the same time. These bite-sized
old-time radio ("OTR") shows are typically 20- to 40-minutes in length.

We're not talking audiobooks here, which are typically narrated by one
person, but rather, these are well-acted radio plays, often with music and
sound effects. Because you're using your imagination to "see" the
characters, environments and actions, these shows feel wonderfully intimate
and personal.

Just like other media, there are different genres for different tastes.
Comedy fans, for example, might prefer to hear the likes of Jack Benny and
Abbott and Costello, while those who prefer science fiction would likely get
a kick out of X Minus One or Orson Welles' (in)famous War of the Worlds
broadcast.

Me, personally? I love the horror, suspense and sci-fi stuff. Favorite
series include Inner Sanctum, CBS Radio Mystery Theater, Lights Out,
Suspense, Quiet Please, The Shadow, Mysterious Traveler, X Minus One, and
anything from Ray Bradbury (be sure to download "Mars is Heaven" and "To the
Future").

Survived by the Internet and MP3 files, most of these radio shows - which
were popular before television took off in the 1950s - still hold up well in
the 21st century. That is, if you can get past some of the classic
stereotypes (such as the Irish cop), sponsor jingles about cigarettes, and
everyone calling each other "dahling."

Because the copyrights expired for most of these shows, you can download and
listen to them for free. Or if you can't be bothered, there are OTR podcasts
to subscribe to. Or for complete collections, you can buy them on disc or
hard drive. However you acquire them, you can fill up your device with
downloaded OTR or stream away.

Enjoy, and spread the word.

Where to get OTR shows

Web sites, satellite radio: Archive.org is the best online resource for free
OTR, which houses many tens of thousands of shows you can download -
one-by-one or as a complete series - and you can then listen to these MP3s
on any compatible device. You'll also get photos, show descriptions and
comments from listeners. Shows can be searched by name or browsed by average
review rating, number of downloads, number of reviews or recent additions.
Also bookmark RelicRadio.com and RUSC.com (Are you sitting comfortably?),
which let you listen to more than 35,000 shows. Those who listen to
satellite radio might not be aware of an old-time radio station that streams
shows 24/7, called Radio Classics (Channel 148).

All of the Relic Radio podcasts are free.
All of the Relic Radio podcasts are free. (Photo: Relic Radio)

Podcasts, apps: There are many dozens of free OTR podcasts to subscribe to.
Most are divided into genre, such as The Horror! or OTR Westerns, or they'll
be posted by name of show, such as ones devoted to Dragnet, Escape. Lone
Ranger or The Shadow. iTunes is popular for subscribing to podcasts and
syncing with mobile devices, but there are many other podcast aggregators,
too. Be sure to check out the Relic Radio podcasts; they're all free but the
narrator -- who introduces each segment with a bit of historical information
-- usually asks for a small donation at the end of the episode. A number of
apps are also devoted to OTR, some of which let you stream shows while
others have a download option.

Buy on hard drive, disc: If you have a lousy Internet connection, want
complete collections, or can't be bothered with finding and downloading
episodes online, you can always buy OTR and have it shipped to your door.
OTRCAT.com lets you buy discs for $5 apiece, sold by show or theme (genre).
Another option is a hard drive with many thousands of OTR episodes, such as
the $74 portable drive at OldTimeRadioDVD.com; the 500GB drive is packed
with more than 74,000 radio shows and other audio and video material. There
are also OTR collections to buy on eBay and online classifieds sites like
Craigslist.

Surf Report readers, do you ever listen to OTR? If so, how do you acquire
them in the digital age?

Three Questions About The Apple TV 4th Generation

[M. Taylor]

Hello All, 

I went to an Apple Store, earlier today, to take alook at iPhone S.E.  

I left the store with an Apple TV 4th Generation 64GB. (smile)

I just spent a couple of hours setting it up and exploring.  

Now I know there's been a lot of podcast from Apple VIS, on this device and
I listened to a couple of them this evening.  

Actually, I find the TV OS pretty strait forward but, as with all new
devices, I have some questions that you may be able to answer.

1.
Is there a page that describes the remote control buttons?  I seem to
remember someone posting a very detailed description of the remote.  

2.
When I first setup my device, I could swear I came across a way to adjust
VoiceOver volume.  That is to say, when I pressed the Plus/Minus button, I
heard feedback as if I were adjusting VoiceOver volume.  In fact, I am
almost positive that the volume changed on the device.  However, for
whatever reason, since updating to the latest version of the OS, I cannot
reproduce such an adjustment.  When I use the VoiceOver Rotor, I cannot
locate a volume option.  

3.
Finally, Is it me, or is there no way to invert colors in the OS.  The first
thing I noticed upon setting up the device was that, unlike my previous
Apple TV, in which menus had white text on a dark background, now it's dark
text on a white background.  Absolutely yucky!!!

I must say that I did like the fact that I could use my iPhone to input all
of my wireless network settings.  Also, I decided to pair my old Apple TV
remote control with my new Apple TV.  So, now I'm using them both.  Very,
very nice.  Oh, and my Apple Wireless Bluetooth keyboard is working fine.

Any and all replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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RE: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

[M. Taylor]

Hello Kerri,

Yes, I am excited about Twitter Moments, also.  It's one of the best features 
I've ever used on iPhone.  Although it's difficult to believe, Twitter is now 
my favorite non-essential iOS app (smile).

While I appreciate your gracious compliment regarding my ability to get a 
developer's attention, I suspect that, in this case, it was the combined 
efforts of all of us who took the time to send feedback to Twitter.

To answer your question, more directly, however, I will say that I do pay close 
attention to  establishing and maintaining a relationship with the developers 
of all of the app's that I have come to depend on.  The first step in doing 
this is by not only contacting them when things go wrong but also contacting 
them when things go right.  If an app is essential to my productivity, I always 
volunteer to become a beta tester so that I can have direct access to the 
development team.  

Some companies, however, do not use external beta testers.  In these instances, 
I write up very detailed bug reports describing the problem and then submit the 
reports via whatever feedback channels are available.

Kerri, time-and-time again I have seen proof that posting comments/bug reports 
in the app-review area of iTunes can yield incredible results; including being 
contacted by the developer.

So, when I want to get the attention of a developer for an accessibility bug I:

1.
Determine when and how the bug occurs.  

2.
Write a detailed bug report describing the bug and how it impedes my ability to 
use the app.

3.
Submit the report via the app-review section of iTunes.

4.
Submit the report to any additional feedback channels.

5.
Post a message to the group requesting support on the issue.  Because so many 
people are so busy, these days, I generally include a generic version of my bug 
report and invite group members to use any or all of it in their submissions.  
I also include any feedback channels in the post.

6.
Contact the developer via Twitter/Facebook, if possible.  My experience is that 
Twitter is more direct but that's probably because I pay more attention to 
Twitter.

7.
If an when the bug is resolved, I contact the developer using all of the 
methods described above, thanking them for their efforts.

8.
Update the group list on the new status of the app and invite members to offer 
their thanks to the developer, as well.

Finally, Kerri, thank you for posting this particular question to the list and 
know that I and others will support your efforts as, when it's all said and 
done, we are all in this together.

Most Sincerely,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kerri Kosten
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

Mark:
I am so excited about this.
I am wondering though how you went about first getting the Twitter developers 
attention to this problem, and then next convincing them to fix this.
I really wish the Snapchat app would become more accessible because Snapchat is 
becoming hugely popular and is now being used for communication purposes.
Did the Twitter developers just pay attention to  the review you posted of 
their app in the ITunes app store?
Did you take any other steps to alert them or anything?
I am asking all of this because I want to try to do a similar thing with 
Snapchat and get them to make Snapchat accessible.
I am so excited about moments though!!! I can finally now really clean out my 
Twitter follow list and now I can follow top stories without having to follow 
tons of people!!
Thanks so much Mark!!
Kerri

On 3/29/16, Mário Navarro <mario@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> hi.
> this is the official tweeter app.
> search only for Tweeter.
> cheers.
>
> Às 19:56 de 29/03/2016, Fazil escreveu:
>> What this app is called in AppStore, please?
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Mário Navarro
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 12:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via 
>> VoiceOver
>>
>>
>>
>> hi.
>> Now on the iPad also supports foto  description go to accessibility, 
>> check image description.
>> my iPad is the mini 2.
>> on my iPhone, I can not find this new feature.
>> hey I can not see the tab moments.
>>how can I do to see the moments tab.
>> thanks.
>> cheers.
>>
>> Às 01:04 de 29/03/2016, M. Taylor escreveu:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> I am so delighted to let you know that, as of today's update, the 
>>> iOS native Twitter app now supports Twitter Moments via VoiceOver.  
>>> To begin 

RE: Just got my new 128-GB black iPhone 6S, and it's awesome! What an upgrade over my 16-GB 4S!

[M. Taylor]

Congratulations on your new phone, Ari.

I am so happy for you.  I am certain you will enjoy many, many good times using 
it.

Mark

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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 6:45 PM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Just got my new 128-GB black iPhone 6S, and it's awesome! What an 
upgrade over my 16-GB 4S!

The responsiveness of my new 6S is absolutely awesome! I'm also happy about the 
memory increase, too. It's my first time with  an iPhone with more than 16-GB! 
Everything has been restored to the phone perfectly.


Thanks,
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RE: Can totally blind person stream on YouTube?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Shane,

I am not certain as to how the previous posters are using the term verified but 
YouTube defines a verified account as follows:

Verification badges on channels

You'll see a verification badge  next to a YouTube's channel name if it's 
linked with a verified Google+ page or profile.

When you see this verification check mark, it means that the channel officially 
belongs to the creator, brand, business, or organization represented by the 
channel. Having a verification badge doesn't affect search results for the 
channel or grant access to additional features on YouTube.

How to get a verification badge

YouTube doesn't accept general requests to receive name verification. If your 
channel meets the qualifications for verification, you may receive the 
verification badge. If your channel has fewer than 100,000 subscribers, it's 
usually not eligible for a verification badge.

If you change your channel's name, it will lose a verification badge if it has 
one. However, the channel will be automatically reviewed and receive a 
verification badge again if it meets the qualifications.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shane Clark82
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can totally blind person stream on YouTube?

Hi Jim,
For me, now I'm running on the Android platform so things may be a little bit 
different, but the upload and record button, is found as soon as I open up the 
YouTube app on the right bottom edge of the screen. I know I have my YouTube 
channel setup, but I'm not familiar with what a verified YouTube channel is. 
What is that?
Shane.

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016, 4:27 PM Jim Fettgather  wrote:
I was able to get my Youtube account verified, but have looked and
looked everywhere in Google Hangouts, but cannot find an option to
stream live video anywhere in that particular app.


On 4/21/16, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
> I was successfully able to verify my account without vision on my Mac. I
> then was able to stream through google hangouts on my phone.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 21, 2016, at 10:33, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Shane
>>
>> I am talking about doing live audio and video streaming, like you do on
>> periscope or meerkat. There used to be an archiving service for these
>> platforms, which is going down. I know I can watch videos, and upload to
>> YouTube on my iPhone. I wanted to be able to record live, without the time
>> limitations that you have for typical iPhone uploads. That is where having
>> the verified channel comes in, which I have. Thanks; hope this clarifies.
>>
>> On Apr 21, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Shane Clark82 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kathy,
>> When you say streaming, do you mean just watching a video? If you're
>> talking about recording, I just recently got into that myself. Just wanted
>> to clarify your question, to try and answer it properly.
>> Shane.
>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016, 10:57 AM Kathy Brandt 
>>> wrote:
>>> I couldn't figure out how to after setting up my verified channel.
>>> Someone told me you had to have sight in order to make it work. Does
>>> anyone know? Thank you very much.
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RE: Dealing with youtube ads

[M. Taylor]

Hello Shermeen,

If you live in the United States, you can sign up for YouTube Red.

YouTube Red is a monthly-paid subscription service by YouTube, exclusively for 
users in the United States. It provides advertising-free streaming of videos 
hosted by the service, offline and background playback.

>From within the iOS app, I believe the option is listed in the Account section.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shermeen Khan
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 10:03 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Dealing with youtube ads

Hi everyone,

My apologies if this question is somehow in violation of the list rules, but 
I'm wondering if anyone has figured out how to watch youtube videos ad-free on 
the IPhone. I don't actually have a huge problem, other than that I will often 
stream youtube at night in order to help myself fall asleep, only to be jarred 
rudely back to full consciousness by a blaring loud add. Any work arounds? I 
don't mind paying, if that's necessary.

Thanks,

Shermeen

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RE: Audible one more

[M. Taylor]

Hello Chip, et al,

I am posting this to let you know that one can purchase a book from Audible and 
have complete access to that book from any Audible app/portal, and at anytime 
without paying any kind of fee.  A fee is only required if one enrolls in a 
plan.  If, however, one chooses to purchase a title without enrolling in any 
kind of plan, then she/he will have to pay the full price for the title, which, 
in my experience, can be more than the same title purchased directly from 
iTunes.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Audible one more

Yes, or you can also purchase on amazon.com

I don’t believe you have to take out a subscription however, I am pretty sure 
you can just buy individual books.  You do however have to pay for some sort of 
active plan which allows you to login to get to the books you’ve purchased (I 
think whatever they call this plan, it’s a maintenance plan for about $10 a 
year, and it allows you to keep getting to the books you’ve purchased, whether 
individually or through a subscription, and it allows you to continue to spend 
your credits if you’ve accumulated credits but not made purchases with them 
yet).  This last was my situation, as we signed up for a subscription of a book 
a month, then failed to spend the credits because we were too busy (they will 
actually just delete these credits from your account if you don’t spend them 
within a given time frame, which I think is 9 months or a year).  We switched 
to the maintenance plan, and then began spending our accumulated credits (which 
they will restore to your account if you insist, but do keep an eye on these if 
you sign up for a subscription).


Chip

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Terri Stimmel
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 1:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audible one more

Hi again everyone,

I have one more question, concerning the audible app.
I am now signed up. I even put a book on my wish list. However, it states that 
you cannot make purchases through the app.
So does this mean that I have to go to audible.com on my computer, and pay for 
a subscription. Then I can get my book?

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RE: How Do You Use iOS?

[M. Taylor]

I just want to thank you all for contributing to this thread.  

Honestly, I cannot stop smiling when I read your lists of apps and discover all 
of the various ways you use them.

To those who have not yet posted, please remember that you do not need to list 
only apps that have not yet been mentioned; just list the apps that you use and 
how you use them if they are not self-explanatory.  

Personally, I am making a list of all of the marvelous apps you have brought to 
my attention that I have not yet explored.

>From the bottom of my heart, I thank you and, let’s keep ‘em coming.  (Big, 
>Big, Smile).

Mark
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How Do You Use iOS?

Nice list, Mark, here are a few more I use although some of them require 
hardware:

Sonos - requires Sonos music players, I think it's been discussed here enough 
so I don't have to go into more details as to what exactly the Sonos system 
does, if somebody doesn't know and wants to know go to www.sonos.com and check 
the list archives for "Sonos" related posts.

Netatmo: requires the Netatmo weather station

Thermostat: requires the Wi-Fi capable thermostat from www.RadioThermostat.com

Nuheat: requires in-floor electric heating mats from Nuheat (the kind that are 
installed underneath tile floors. The app allows me to control the thermostats 
connected to each mat/room that has it, in my case two bathrooms and my kitchen.

Nest: I use it not for thermostat, but I purchased 5 Dropcam Pro a couple of 
years ago for security cameras for my retail store. Dropcam was then purchased 
by Nest and the Dropcam app was replaced with the Nest app. Of course the video 
feed is useless to me directly, but the cameras also transmit audio and you can 
press a button in the app and speak through the camera.

CBC News for Canadian news and Weather Office for Canadian weather

Google: That is the Google search app which also has those Google Now cards.

Transit: Gives youtransit information for many cities

Parcel: for parcel tracking

Whats App: one of the social media apps I use in addition to Skype, fAcebook 
and Messenger

Roboform: Mark mentioned another password manager, I have been a Roboform user 
for many years and for $20 a year I get the Roboform Everywhere service which 
means my passcards and SafeNotes are available on any of my 5 work and home 
PC's and my iPhone.

Mark mentioned OneDrive which I use more now that I have both an Office 365 
business and home subscription with 1 Tb of storage. But I also use Dropbox.

Compass: the native compass app which is sometimes handy when I need to know 
direction and of course it also has the built-in level.

Scotia Bank: the app of my Canadian financial institution

Paprika: a recipe app, but it's not an app that actually contains recipes, it's 
an app which allows you to search for recipes and you can then add them to 
Paprika with just a couple of taps and all the information is nicely displayed 
with tabs for ingredients and directions, you can have multiple timers, make a 
shopping list out of the ingredients for a recipe etc. My wife also has it on 
her iPhone and we use the same log-in for Paprika so if she adds a recipe it's 
automatically in my list as well.

Speedtest: for checking cellular and/or Wi-Fi connection spped

Authy: an app that generates one-time passcodes for accounts where I have 
enabled 2-step verification

For recognition and related: Light Detector (Mark doesn't need it because he's 
got more vision than a hundred others of us on this list *smile* Talking 
Goggles, Camfind and Tap Tap See

Apple Store app: for browsing and buying products from Apple, making genious 
bar appointments etc.
Shopper's Drug Mart: Canadian drug mart chain which let's me use coupons, 
specials, display my Shopper's Optimum card to be scanned etc.

Walk Log: tracks distance walked and more

I'll stop here, there are more, but some are quite specific since a couple of 
my suppliers have apps and that wouldn't apply to anybody else.

Regards,
Sieghard




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M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How Do You Use iOS?

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and the Mac Visionaries Mailing
List:

I was having lunch with a friend today at a sunny outdoor café and, during our 
conversation, the subject of iOS and the number of apps we use on a regular 
basis came up.  As we began listing our favorite apps, I once again realized 
how much iPhone and it’s related apps have revolutionized my life in almost 
every aspect.  

Below I will list the apps I used today and/or within the last two days.  In 
some cases I will list the name of the app, in others, 

How Do You Use iOS?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and the Mac Visionaries Mailing
List:

I was having lunch with a friend today at a sunny outdoor café and, during
our conversation, the subject of iOS and the number of apps we use on a
regular basis came up.  As we began listing our favorite apps, I once again
realized how much iPhone and it’s related apps have revolutionized my life
in almost every aspect.  

Below I will list the apps I used today and/or within the last two days.  In
some cases I will list the name of the app, in others, I will only list the
type of app. 

I hope you will contribute to this thread by listing the apps you use most
often as I and others would like to get to know you and, perhaps, discover
an app or two about which we can learn.

Okay, here we go:

1.
Clock:
I use the iOS clock for wake-up alarms and in some cases, to time activities
such as workouts or cooking.

2.
Calendar:
I use my Calendar for virtually all my appointments.  Today, for example I
was reminded of two upcoming doctor appointments and, of course, today’s
lunch date.  I also used it today to schedule new appointments including a
date with a person I met via an online dating app which I will list below.

3.
Messages:
I send and receive text/iMessages all through the day for everything from
staying in touch with friends to financial activity notifications.

4.
The Weather app:
Even though we do not have much variation in our weather patterns out here,
I usually check the weather at least once a day, before going out.

5.
Financial apps:
I use my financial institutions, including banks and credit card companies,
apps to transfer funds, pay bills, and monitor account activities.  Just as
an aside, I do not use any third-party services to manage my finances.  AT
this time, I need absolutely no sighted assistance in reading/monitoring
account activity or paying bills.  To me, this is as close to miraculous as
it gets.  Some of you may be too young to understand that there was a time
in the not-so-distant past, when those of us who were visually impaired had
virtually no privacy in such matters.  This is something that we should
never forget.  

6.
Downcast:
I use Downcast on a daily basis to listen to my favorite podcasts.  I also
use the native podcast app but not to listen to external audio but only to
listen to material that I have manually tagged for the app such as my
favorite old-time radio episodes.

7.
TV Guide Mobile:
Even though I don’t watch a great deal of television, last night, for
example, I used TV Guide Mobile in order to check listings and set my DVR
for future broadcasts.

8.
CVS Pharmacy Mobile
One of my most favorite apps is CVS Pharmacy Mobile.  I use it, regularly,
to manage and refill my prescriptions.

9.
Seeing Eye GPS:
For me, this is a must-have app.  Simply stated, it provides an almost
unparalleled level of independence in the iOS navigation universe.

10.
The K N F B Reader app:
Even though I have several tools available for OCR, I find that I am using
the K N F B Reader more and more to take quick snapshots in order to obtain
information on the fly.

11.
The native iOS Twitter App:
I use this app throughout the day in order to stay up-to-date on current
events and to participate in the global conversation.  It is a must-have, in
my world.  I just love the Moments feature.

12.
Maps:
To me, the native iOS Maps app is like a trusted friend that I can always
count on.  With it, I know that, no matter the situation, I can always find
my way home.  It was because of the marvelous accessibility of Apple Maps
that convinced me to give up my 6 year subscription to A T & T Navigator, a
first-class GPS navigation tool in its own right.

13.
Apple Pay:
As I have posted on several occasions, Apple Pay has completely
revolutionized my point-of-purchase experience.  I live in an area where I
can use Apple Pay on a daily basis, for example, when buying groceries,
dining out, getting medicine, or even purchasing gifts or office supplies.
It is absolutely amazing.  

14.
Online dating apps:
I have been a long-time advocate of making online dating/online dating apps
accessible to the blind and low vision.  I am pleased to tell you that the
major online dating services, such as eHarmony.com, have been listening.  As
a result, I use online dating apps to meet new people, on a regular basis.

15.
Audio Book apps:
I use BARD Mobile, iBooks, the Audible.com app, and OverDrive (the public
library system) app, to enjoy audio books.

16.
Terrestrial radio app: 
I find that I am using the ooTunes app, more and more, to catch A.M. talk
radio when I am in places that cannot receive A.M. signal.   

17.
Fandango:
In an era in which audio described movies are becoming more readily
available, I enjoy using the Fandango app to both browse movie listings and
purchase tickets.  

Finally, of course I use other apps such as the Money Reader app, Skype, 1
Password Pro, News Line, OneDrive, the native 

RE: iTunes for windows and screen readers

[M. Taylor]

Well said, Richard.

I strongly urge any Jaws v17.x user to use the Touch Cursor in order to 
interact with iTunes for Windows.  I also use the tab key a great deal.  

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes for windows and screen readers


As a Window-Eyes user, I'd like to say that this is true, and in some ways it 
is.
However, the real truth, in my opinion, is that Apple makes it very hard for 
Windows based screen readers to work well with iTunes.
>From what I have heard from JAWS and NVDA users, is that some'things work fine 
>with those screen readers and some things don't.
That is true with Window-Eyes as well.
It really depends on how much one uses iTunes and what aspects the person uses 
the most as to which screen reader might perform the best.
No matter which screen reader you use, the bottom line is you need to know how 
to use it's advanced features if you are going to get anywhere with the Windows 
version of iTunes.
GW Micro was the first ones to really work with Apple to make iTunes 
accessible. But the later versions of iTunes have made everything more 
complicated.
Richard


“The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be pretty 
sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.”
Elizabeth Taylor
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

> On Apr 28, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have never used iTunes for windows, because I have a Mac. However, if 
> friend of mine was just told by an Apple accessibility senior representative 
> that window eyes works with iTunes for windows and is the only screen reader 
> which Apple says does that. I know that a few years ago, and it literally has 
> been years, GW micro had been touting this fact. But I know a lot of changes 
> have happened with both window eyes and iTunes since then I suspect that this 
> is the case of apple not keeping their propaganda, I mean their publication, 
> up-to-date. So for you who use Windows version of iTunes and screen readers 
> two questions. One, Is it true, WE users, that iTunes works perfectly well 
> with the latest version of window eyes? And two, what about other screen 
> readers? Do any work well?
> Mary
> 
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RE: Audible one more

[M. Taylor]

Hello Terri,

You are quite correct, you cannot make any purchases through the Audible app.  
So, go to Audible.com and from there you can either sign up for a subscription 
or purchase a title.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2016 10:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audible one more

Hi again everyone,

I have one more question, concerning the audible app.
I am now signed up. I even put a book on my wish list. However, it states that 
you cannot make purchases through the app.
So does this mean that I have to go to audible.com on my computer, and pay for 
a subscription. Then I can get my book?

Thank you for any help!
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iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries Mailing List.

I am so surprised that no one has mentioned the return of the iTunes SideBar
in iTunes 12.4.  (smile)

If you didn't know it, it's back and looks almost like it did in iTunes 11
and earlier.  

Yep, it's true.  From the View menu, select Show SideBar.

Enjoy,

Mark

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RE: Apple Garage Band on the phone 6

[M. Taylor]

John,

Simply calculate the sum of the amount of available storage and the amount of 
used storage; then, round up to the next capacity iPhone model.

iPhone 6 series models come in either 16, 64, or 128GB models.  I believe the 
sum, based on your previous post is around 12GB.  Therefore, your phone must be 
a 16GB device.

Mark

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John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 6:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Apple Garage Band on the phone 6

Mark: That's sort of what I think. Also, how do I find out the capacity of my 
iPhone?
Thanks

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Subject: RE: Apple Garage Band on the iPhone 6

Hello John,

It sounds to me as though you have a 16GB phone, right?

I know it may sound obvious but have you rebooted your phone before and after 
installing Garage Band?  

If the answer is, “yes”, then it may be that you do not have enough space on 
your phone to successfully use the app.  This is only a guess, however.

Mark

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John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Garage Band on the iPhone 6

Hi: I've downloaded  Apple Garage Band 3 times now on the iPhone 6 and when I 
open the program, nothing happens, it simply reads: "welcome to Garage Band" 
and tapping through the screen simply reads the letters "welcome to Garage 
Band." Any suggestions? 
In setting/general storage the phone reads "used 6.1 GB, available 5.5 GB Does 
availability mean the full space available or does it indicate the amount of 
free space available? Thought that somehow might be the problem.
Thanks. 
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Apple quietly toughens rules forcing passcode unlocks of Touch ID devices

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I am cross-posting the following article from Apple Insider, the URL to
which is located at the end of the text.

Mark

Apple quietly toughens rules forcing passcode unlocks of Touch ID devices
By Roger Fingas 
Thursday, May 19, 2016

Apple has silently added another condition under which an iPhone or iPad
user has to unlock their device with a passcode, despite having Touch ID
enabled, according to a report.

iOS will now ask for a passcode if it hasn't been unlocked that way for six
days, and Touch ID hasn't been used in the last eight hours, MacWorld said.
A quoted Apple spokesperson claimed the rule has been in place since iOS 9
was released in Sept. 2015, but MacWorld noted this is inconsistent with the
iOS Security guide, which only mentioned the change starting May 12. Apple
declined to offer an explanation.

The company has several such rules in place, the two most common forcing a
passcode unlock if a device is rebooted or hasn't been unlocked for 48
hours. Others require a passcode after new fingers are added to Touch ID, a
person tries five unsuccessful Touch ID logins, or someone issues a remote
lock via Find My iPhone.

If the discovered rule is genuinely new, it's not clear how or when Apple
might have made the change, since iOS 9.3.1 was released in March and 9.3.2
arrived earlier this week.

Regardless, the tactic is presumably a means of reinforcing the security of
Apple devices. It could potentially have an impact on U.S. law enforcement,
which has already begun seeking court orders compelling people to unlock
iPhones with their fingerprints

Original Article At:
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RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Rose,

The option to either show or hide the SideBar is only available when not in the 
phone view.  Or, more simply stated, make certain you do not have your phone 
connected to iTunes when you attempt to hide or show the SideBar.

I know this sounds ridiculously confusing but, nevertheless, it's true.  

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Not in mine, says unavailable.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


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M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 3:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Hello Everyone,

I am posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries Mailing List.

I am so surprised that no one has mentioned the return of the iTunes SideBar in 
iTunes 12.4.  (smile)

If you didn't know it, it's back and looks almost like it did in iTunes 11 and 
earlier.  

Yep, it's true.  From the View menu, select Show SideBar.

Enjoy,

Mark

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RE: Today View in Notification Center is completely broken in IOS 9.2.1

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Hello Brian,

I cannot confirm your findings.  

The today view is functioning just as it always has, via VoiceOver, in 9.3.2.

Mark

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Brian Fischler
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Subject: Today View in Notification Center is completely broken in IOS 9.2.1

Does anyone successfully use the Today view in Notification Center? I have 
deleted everything and put some things back but in the latest update IOS and 
VoiceOVer completely crashes in Today View as I hear screen curtain on then 
nothing for a few seconds and then screen curtain on once again. If I try 
touching or flicking around the screen I get nothing or VO just continues to 
repeat the weather until crashing. Today view has never worked on any of my 3 
iPhones since they introduced it. Thanks,

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RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Rick,

I spent quite some time using iTunes 12.4 on my Windows 10 laptop with the 
latest version of Jaws.  I must say that, while some aspects of iTunes remain 
somewhat accessible, my experience was definitely disappointing.  

Now I say this realizing that one's mileage may vary depending upon how they 
use iTunes.  

I was certainly able to obtain and manage various resources from within iTunes 
but the overall experience was, somehow deflating, to say the least.

Having said this, I have full confidence in the developers of both Jaws and 
Window Eyes to step up to the proverbial plate on this and smooth out the 
rough-edges.  

I am sadden, however, at the fact that those of us who use Windows 
screen-readers can so easily lose access to what has become a vital tool even 
with all of this so-called marvelous technology around us.

I am not going to get on my soapbox, here, but this kind of thing is exactly 
what motivated me to purchase my first Mac 7 years ago. 

I am not trying to convert anyone, I'm just saying.  

Mark 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Alfaro
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 9:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Hi Mark. Perhaps visually, it may look like the old sidebar but from a screen 
reader's perspective unless I'm missing something, it doesn't feel like the old 
sidebar at all and I am not in the phone view.  The sidebar is enabled but not 
even close IMHO. In addition, several lists are broken where focused isn't 
being voiced as you arrow throught them.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:42 PM
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Subject: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Hello Everyone,

I am posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries Mailing List.

I am so surprised that no one has mentioned the return of the iTunes SideBar in 
iTunes 12.4.  (smile)

If you didn't know it, it's back and looks almost like it did in iTunes 11 and 
earlier.  

Yep, it's true.  From the View menu, select Show SideBar.

Enjoy,

Mark

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RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Alan,

I'm running the latest version of Zoomtext on my Windows 7 PC.

iTunes 12.4 has not locked up on me--not once.  

Your description of the layout reflects my own experience.  

I don't know about you but, as a low-vision user of Zoomtext, the first thing I 
do is to disable the album artwork column that is the default music Playlist 
view.  Simply stated, when I select a playlist, I only want to see the list of 
songs in that list, without any artwork.

To have a playlist be displayed without album artwork:

1.
Select a playlist.

2.
>From the View Menu, select View As.

3.
>From the resulting submenu, select songs.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Hi Sieghard and others,

I know others have commented about accessibility issues with the new iTunes 
12.4 for Windows but my comments below reflect my using it with ZoomText and my 
remaining vision.

Music appears to be the default media selected at the top of the sidebar. This 
control is actually a drop-down box that when entered, opens to present Movies, 
TV Shows, Podcasts, Apps, Books, and Tones which were simply listed in the old 
sidebar. ZoomText announces these after pressing enter and arrowing down the 
list but it is slow and inconsistent in doing so and I wonder if the other 
screen readers might be having some accessibility issues with this.

When your iDevice is connected via USB cable to your computer, a control for it 
will appear just to the right of the media drop-down box. When it has focus, 
below it in a stacked list will be Summary, Apps, Movies, Music, etc. which in 
iTunes 11.4 were presented as tabs or buttons much like column headings across 
the top of the screen. I'm still playing with the easiest way to access these 
items since the arrow keys seem extremely sluggish on my system. The mouse 
appears the quickest way for those with vision and the tab key I think 
eventually gets to all the controls but it takes a good deal of tabbing.

The only other thing I'm noticing with version 12.4 for Windows on my Windows 7 
computer is that iTunes often stops responding and I have to go into task 
manager and close it in order to thaw out this freeze.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

I agree, not that I really miss the sidebar, but this sidebar seems to refer 
only to music, it's not like I see Apps, Movies and so on there, they are still 
the usual radio buttons and I find this diebar more of a pain in the neck than 
anything else.
I actually think that with the exception of file transfer and syncing apps to 
your phone the versions of iTunes 12 before this one worked just fine.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Alfaro
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 9:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Hi Mark. Perhaps visually, it may look like the old sidebar but from a screen 
reader's perspective unless I'm missing something, it doesn't feel like the old 
sidebar at all and I am not in the phone view.  The sidebar is enabled but not 
even close IMHO. In addition, several lists are broken where focused isn't 
being voiced as you arrow throught them.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Hello Everyone,

I am posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries Mailing List.

I am so surprised that no one has mentioned the return of the iTunes SideBar in 
iTunes 12.4.  (smile)

If you didn't know it, it's back and looks almost like it did in iTunes 11 and 
earlier.  

Yep, it's true.  From the View menu, select Show SideBar.

Enjoy,

Mark

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RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Russ,

To answer your question, "no."

The SideBar in v12.4 is not the same as it is in v11.x.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Let me ask, when I turn on the Sidebar in itunes 12, will itunes 12.4, work 
just like itunes 11?  I'm still using itunes 11 because it's much easier to use 
when using file sharing.

-Original Message-----
From: M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Hello Rose,

The option to either show or hide the SideBar is only available when not in the 
phone view.  Or, more simply stated, make certain you do not have your phone 
connected to iTunes when you attempt to hide or show the SideBar.

I know this sounds ridiculously confusing but, nevertheless, it's true.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Not in mine, says unavailable.


Rose Combs
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M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 3:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Hello Everyone,

I am posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries Mailing List.

I am so surprised that no one has mentioned the return of the iTunes SideBar in 
iTunes 12.4.  (smile)

If you didn't know it, it's back and looks almost like it did in iTunes 11 and 
earlier.

Yep, it's true.  From the View menu, select Show SideBar.

Enjoy,

Mark

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RE: tv guide app

[M. Taylor]

Hello Amy,

My preferred app for television channel listings is the TV Guide Mobile app.  
It can be a little tricky, the first time you open it as the introduction 
screens require some VoiceOver pass-through gestures but, once that's done, I 
think it's great.

If you have a sighted friend near you, they can get you through the setup 
screens with no problem.

Also, for the best experience, I suggest that you visit tvguide.com and create 
a free account.  Then, enter your account credentials into the app and you'll 
be set to go.

Mark

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Subject: tv guide app

Was wondering what the most accessable tv guide app is? I have nfb newsline app 
but can't get it changed to dish channels it's on what a had before.  I just 
got dish. Thanks

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RE: Disabling voice mail on Verizon iPhone

[M. Taylor]

Hello Candy,

If I may, why do you wish to disable the voicemail service on your Verizon 
Wireless iPhone?

Disabling the voicemail service has to be done by a Verizon Wireless account 
manager, if, in fact, it can be done at all.

Mark

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Candy Lowe
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Disabling voice mail on Verizon iPhone

Hello everyone,
I just got off of the phone with Verizon trying to have them disable my voice 
mail.  Apparently, you can not disable voice mail if you have Verizon and you 
have an iPhone.  The customer rep was very helpful and even called apple, but, 
no one was able to disable it.  Has anyone else experienced this problem?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Forwarding calls on Vorizon

[M. Taylor]

As a follow up to my previous post in this thread, I got hold of a Verizon 
Wireless iPhone 6 Plus and explored this feature.  

To my surprise, it is definitely different than A T & T Wireless.  

One has to use the *72 and *73 method to enable/disable the feature.  Not a big 
deal, I'm just surprised.  

Mark

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Marie
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Forwarding calls on Vorizon

If it does not work, this will:
dial *72 and the number you are forwarding to.
Double tap the call button and you will hear a some quick beeps. Just hang up.
That is it.
When you want to cancel:
dial *73 and click the call button. Once again you will hear the beeps, just 
hang up and you are back to normal.

-Original Message-
From: Robin
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Forwarding calls on Verizon

I'm UnSure WhetherOrNot YourMethod of using Apple's iOS BuiltIn CallForwarding 
will Work or not. I suggest ThisPerson try YourMethod to determine if it will 
work on VZW At 11:00 AM 5/18/2016, you wrote:
>Hello Robin,
>
>While I certainly do not doubt your method for enabling call forwarding 
>on Verizon Wireless, I am surprised that one cannot use the built-in 
>iOS method to enable the feature.
>
>For example, on A T & T Wireless, to enable call forwarding
>
>1.
> From the Settings list, select Phone.
>
>2.
>Select Call Forwarding.  In the resulting dialog box, tap to enable the 
>feature then, in the edit field, simply enter the number to which you 
>would like your calls to be forwarded.
>
>To disable the feature, simply tap to toggle Call Forwarding off.  One 
>nice thing about this method is that, assuming that you subsequently 
>wish to forward calls to the same number, the next time you enable the 
>feature, the previously entered number automatically populates the edit field.
>
>Mark
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of Robin
>Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 10:45 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Forwarding calls on Vorizon
>
>ToForward (VZW):
>
>Press *72 + MobilePhoneNumber
>&
>To DeActivateForward (VZW):
>*720 + MobilePhoneNumber
>
>I beleive this IS How ItIs Performed ON VerizonWireless (VZW)
>
>If I'm Wrong, Please (PrettyPlease) CorrectMe
>
>Thanx
>At 10:18 AM 5/18/2016, you wrote:
> >Hi Folks,
> >I have a friend̢۪s iPhone 6+ and she uses Verizon. S. She is 
> >currently in the hospital and wants me to have her calls forwarded to 
> >my number before I give her back her phone. How do I do this? I see 
> >that *73 disables call forwarding, but I don̢۪t know how to ao 
> >actually forward calls. I would appreciate any help.
> >
> >Kristeen
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RE: voiceover not reading everything on the weather app

[M. Taylor]

Hello Martin,

I cannot reproduce your problem in the native iOS Weather App.  

In iOS 9.3.2 on my iPhone 6 Plus, I am able to easily read all of the details 
including wind, humidity, pressure, visibility, etc.  

I can do this in one of two ways:

1.
Simply single-finger swipe from left to right, in order to have VoiceOver read 
the display line-by-line.  

2.
Perform a three-finger swipe up from bottom-to-top in order to change to the 
second page of the display said page containing the details area of the report.

Mark  

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martin nelson
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: voiceover not reading everything on the weather app

Hello: I am finding that on the native weather app voice over does not read the 
detail feature where humidity and other data is displayed. 
Without voice over my wife is able to slide the screen a little so that this 
feature appears. Voice over then reads it; but without her help I can't get 
voice over to read that area. If voice over cannot do this on the Apple native 
weather app it seems to me that Apple should take note of this if they haven't 
already done so.
Thank you for any input.
Martin Nelson

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RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Rose,

Your response to my post seems quite hostile and speaking both as a member of 
this list and as its moderator, your hostility is greatly not appreciated.  

I do not recall ever having posted that anything is perfect.  

Perhaps you may not realize that I function both as a low vision user and as a 
totally blind user.  This is to say that I use Jaws on my Windows laptops and I 
use Zoomtext on my Windows Desktops.  Just as an aside, Braille is my preferred 
medium for reading hardcopy text.  

I believe I posted to this thread regarding my general disappointment with the 
current accessibility of iTunes for Windows 12.4 with regard to Jaws.  

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 8:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

If you are seeing the screen quit telling those of us who are having problems 
that it is perfect.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Hello Alan,

I'm running the latest version of Zoomtext on my Windows 7 PC.

iTunes 12.4 has not locked up on me--not once.  

Your description of the layout reflects my own experience.  

I don't know about you but, as a low-vision user of Zoomtext, the first thing I 
do is to disable the album artwork column that is the default music Playlist 
view.  Simply stated, when I select a playlist, I only want to see the list of 
songs in that list, without any artwork.

To have a playlist be displayed without album artwork:

1.
Select a playlist.

2.
>From the View Menu, select View As.

3.
>From the resulting submenu, select songs.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Hi Sieghard and others,

I know others have commented about accessibility issues with the new iTunes 
12.4 for Windows but my comments below reflect my using it with ZoomText and my 
remaining vision.

Music appears to be the default media selected at the top of the sidebar. This 
control is actually a drop-down box that when entered, opens to present Movies, 
TV Shows, Podcasts, Apps, Books, and Tones which were simply listed in the old 
sidebar. ZoomText announces these after pressing enter and arrowing down the 
list but it is slow and inconsistent in doing so and I wonder if the other 
screen readers might be having some accessibility issues with this.

When your iDevice is connected via USB cable to your computer, a control for it 
will appear just to the right of the media drop-down box. When it has focus, 
below it in a stacked list will be Summary, Apps, Movies, Music, etc. which in 
iTunes 11.4 were presented as tabs or buttons much like column headings across 
the top of the screen. I'm still playing with the easiest way to access these 
items since the arrow keys seem extremely sluggish on my system. The mouse 
appears the quickest way for those with vision and the tab key I think 
eventually gets to all the controls but it takes a good deal of tabbing.

The only other thing I'm noticing with version 12.4 for Windows on my Windows 7 
computer is that iTunes often stops responding and I have to go into task 
manager and close it in order to thaw out this freeze.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

I agree, not that I really miss the sidebar, but this sidebar seems to refer 
only to music, it's not like I see Apps, Movies and so on there, they are still 
the usual radio buttons and I find this diebar more of a pain in the neck than 
anything else.
I actually think that with the exception of file transfer and syncing apps to 
your phone the versions of iTunes 12 before this one worked just fine.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Alfaro
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 9:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Hi Mark. Perhaps visually, it may look like the old sidebar but from a screen 
reader's perspective unless I'm missing something, it doesn't feel like the old 
sidebar at all and I am not in the phone view.  The sidebar is enabled but not 
even close IMHO. In addition, several lists are broken where focused isn't 
being voiced as you arrow throught them.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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M. Taylo

RE: Weird itunes mystery.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Cheryl,

I strongly suspect that the asymmetry you are experiencing has something to do 
with the Windows Registry.  Strangely enough, I recently experienced a similar 
phenomenon on my Windows 7 machine.  It drove me crazy for three days.  
Finally, because of some fuzzy-logic, on my part, some out-of-the-box thinking 
of some of my friends, and a great deal of Google searches, oh yes, and a 
prayer, I was able to get everything working without having to wipe my system.  

My advice is to just accept what is and leave it alone if you want to continue 
to use iTunes 11.4.

 Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheryl LeFurgey
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weird itunes mystery.

I'm running ios9.3.2 on both my iphone 5 and my ipod touch 5g.
I litterally just connected my phone to itunes 11.4 and it synced, with 
absolutely no problems.
However, when I connect my ipod, running the same version of Ios, itunes pops 
up the this ipod cannot be used because it requires itunes
12.2.2 or later error message.
So yes, I'd say there's a mystery here somewhere.
Also no, I don't have any IPSW files downloaded anywhere, at least not that I 
know of.

On 5/21/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I don't think there's a mystery here. I'm prety sure you'll need a 
> newer version of iTunes if you're going to install IOS 9.3.2. What 
> version of IOS do you have on your phone now? An older version of 
> iTunes syncing with an older version of IOS is to be expected. Also 
> syncing isn't the same as installing a new version of IOS with al of 
> it's new features that may require a newer version of iTunes.
>
> I assume if you start the install then the install will halt since 
> iTunes won't actually be able to fetch up a copy of 9.1 and iTunes 
> 11.04 won't support 9.3.2.
>
> On 21/05/16 13:50, Cheryl LeFurgey wrote:
>> I'm running itunes 11.4.
>> Yes, I know, there's a newer version for xp, but I like 11, plus my 
>> IPhone will still sync fine, hense the mystery.
>>
>> On 5/21/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>> What version of iTunes are you running? that's the only reason I can 
>>> imagine you wouldn't be told you'd be getting 9.3.2 after the 
>>> restore. I doubt Apple would actually start installing a version of 
>>> IOS that isn't even available any more and end up bricking your 
>>> phone. If it were me, I'd take the chance, but I definitely don't 
>>> blame anyone for being more cautious messing with a device that 
>>> might be very critical in your daily life.
>>>
>>> On 21/05/16 13:43, Cheryl LeFurgey wrote:
 I dunno, the only time I put the ipod into DFU mode then clicked 
 restore it offered me 9.1. I didn't go through with it because I 
 know Apple isn't signing that firmware, so I don't want my ipod to 
 become completely unusable.

 On 5/21/16, christopher hallsworth  wrote:
> It should restore to the current iOS version, 9.3.2.
>> On 21 May 2016, at 14:04, Cheryl LeFurgey 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Another interesting thing i forgot to mention yesterday.
>> I put my ipod into DFU mode just to see what it looked like, hit 
>> restore, and it offered to restore to Ios9.1, I believe it was.
>> I didn't do it, of course, because as far as i know apple isn't 
>> signing that version anymore, so I think restoring to it would 
>> brick my ipod worse than it already is.
>> Why would a DFU mode restore offer a firmware Apple isn't signing?
>>
>> On 5/21/16, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
>>> Alan,
>>> Yeah, it is super weird that one device works while the other 
>>> doesn't.
>>> Also, yay, someone else who thinks the way I do about xp. It 
>>> suits my needs, I'll upgrade when my desktop dies.
>>> All I use itunes for is putting music on my devices, so because 
>>> one of my devices works I can see no real reason to upgrade. If 
>>> neither device synced that'd be different.
>>> Thanks for the good luck, I hope I can get this working, ugh.
>>>
>>> On 5/21/16, Alan Lemly  wrote:
 Cheryl,

 I agree with you one hundred percent and I still use my Windows 
 XP box to run older programs that I had no interest in 
 acquiring versions compatible with Windows 7. I've always 
 believed that you should run the operating system that you know 
 and that runs the programs you need to get your work done. 
 Windows XP still does an awful lot of that for me.

 That's great that your iPhone running iOS 9.x is still working 
 with iTunes
 11.4 but it is a bit curious based on what I've also read. Your 
 iPod is acting more as I would expect but the inconsistency of 
 

RE: Do we need iTunes 12.4 to backup and otherwise use iPhone runnings iOS 9.3.2?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Keith,

While one can use iPhone without ever connecting it to a computer, generally 
speaking, I would argue that it is better to use iPhone in conjunction with a 
computer for a host of reasons not the least of which being that a computer 
allows one to preserve apps that may no longer be offered in the App Store.

Again, it's a matter of opinion.

One thing I can definitely tell you, however, is that for the best iTunes 
experience, one needs a Macintosh computer.  On this point, there can be no 
argument if for no other reason than the fact that VoiceOver is built directly 
into the operating system.

Mark

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Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Do we need iTunes 12.4 to backup and otherwise use iPhone runnings iOS 
9.3.2?

Hi,

In view of the problems folks are having within iTunes 12.4 with respect to 
screen reader accessibility, do we need iTunes 12.4 to backup and otherwise use 
iTunes with iphones running iOS 9.3.2?

Thanks, Keith

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RE: Do we need iTunes 12.4 to backup and otherwise use iPhone runnings iOS 9.3.2?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Keith,

Ah, I understand your question.

My suggestion is to just attach your iOS device to your iTunes 12.3 computer 
and see what happens.  This is to say, attach your phone and attempt to make a 
backup.  If you do not receive an error message, then you're in business.  If 
you do receive an error message or a dialog box informing you that you must 
upgrade to the latest version of iTunes in order to complete the intended 
action, simply cancel the operation; no harm, no fowl, as they say.

Let us know what happens, okay?

Mark

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Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 3:46 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Do we need iTunes 12.4 to backup and otherwise use iPhone runnings 
iOS 9.3.2?

Thanks, Mark. I'll keep in mind your suggestion of getting a Mac. For now, I'm 
stuck with a Windows PC and JAWS.

I'll try repeating my question by stating it in a different way in the hopes 
someone may be able to provide an answer. I have uppgraded to iOS 9.3.2. Can I 
use iTunes 12.3.x to backup to my PC? Or, am I stuck having to upgrade to 
iTunes 12.4 and having to deal with the accessibility challenges therein? I 
prefer to do encrypted backups which I understand are not possible with iCloud 
backups.

Thanks, Keith

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Do we need iTunes 12.4 to backup and otherwise use iPhone runnings 
iOS 9.3.2?

Hello Keith,

While one can use iPhone without ever connecting it to a computer, generally 
speaking, I would argue that it is better to use iPhone in conjunction with a 
computer for a host of reasons not the least of which being that a computer 
allows one to preserve apps that may no longer be offered in the App Store.

Again, it's a matter of opinion.

One thing I can definitely tell you, however, is that for the best iTunes 
experience, one needs a Macintosh computer.  On this point, there can be no 
argument if for no other reason than the fact that VoiceOver is built directly 
into the operating system.

Mark

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Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Do we need iTunes 12.4 to backup and otherwise use iPhone runnings iOS 
9.3.2?

Hi,

In view of the problems folks are having within iTunes 12.4 with respect to 
screen reader accessibility, do we need iTunes 12.4 to backup and otherwise use 
iTunes with iphones running iOS 9.3.2?

Thanks, Keith

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RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Char,

Yes, my comments were based on iTunes 12.4.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Mark- Are you speaking of something available only in 12.4? I do not have 'view 
as' only view options.
Cher


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Hello Alan,

I'm running the latest version of Zoomtext on my Windows 7 PC.

iTunes 12.4 has not locked up on me--not once.  

Your description of the layout reflects my own experience.  

I don't know about you but, as a low-vision user of Zoomtext, the first thing I 
do is to disable the album artwork column that is the default music Playlist 
view.  Simply stated, when I select a playlist, I only want to see the list of 
songs in that list, without any artwork.

To have a playlist be displayed without album artwork:

1.
Select a playlist.

2.
>From the View Menu, select View As.

3.
>From the resulting submenu, select songs.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Hi Sieghard and others,

I know others have commented about accessibility issues with the new iTunes 
12.4 for Windows but my comments below reflect my using it with ZoomText and my 
remaining vision.

Music appears to be the default media selected at the top of the sidebar. This 
control is actually a drop-down box that when entered, opens to present Movies, 
TV Shows, Podcasts, Apps, Books, and Tones which were simply listed in the old 
sidebar. ZoomText announces these after pressing enter and arrowing down the 
list but it is slow and inconsistent in doing so and I wonder if the other 
screen readers might be having some accessibility issues with this.

When your iDevice is connected via USB cable to your computer, a control for it 
will appear just to the right of the media drop-down box. When it has focus, 
below it in a stacked list will be Summary, Apps, Movies, Music, etc. which in 
iTunes 11.4 were presented as tabs or buttons much like column headings across 
the top of the screen. I'm still playing with the easiest way to access these 
items since the arrow keys seem extremely sluggish on my system. The mouse 
appears the quickest way for those with vision and the tab key I think 
eventually gets to all the controls but it takes a good deal of tabbing.

The only other thing I'm noticing with version 12.4 for Windows on my Windows 7 
computer is that iTunes often stops responding and I have to go into task 
manager and close it in order to thaw out this freeze.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

I agree, not that I really miss the sidebar, but this sidebar seems to refer 
only to music, it's not like I see Apps, Movies and so on there, they are still 
the usual radio buttons and I find this diebar more of a pain in the neck than 
anything else.
I actually think that with the exception of file transfer and syncing apps to 
your phone the versions of iTunes 12 before this one worked just fine.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Alfaro
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 9:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Hi Mark. Perhaps visually, it may look like the old sidebar but from a screen 
reader's perspective unless I'm missing something, it doesn't feel like the old 
sidebar at all and I am not in the phone view.  The sidebar is enabled but not 
even close IMHO. In addition, several lists are broken where focused isn't 
being voiced as you arrow throught them.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Hello Everyone,

I am posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries Mailing List.

I am so surprised that no one has mentioned the return of the iTunes SideBar in 
iTunes 12.4.  (smile)

If you didn't know it, it's back and looks almost like it did in iTunes 11 and 
earlier.  

Yep, it's true.  From the View menu, select Show SideBar.

Enjoy,

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RE: Weird itunes mystery.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Cheryl,

The solution I came up with is far beyond the scope of this list.  

All I can say is:

1.
Many people do not realize the power of the Windows Registry.  More often than 
not, the reason why an application will or won't do something is because of 
various switches/arguments either being enabled or disabled in the Registry.

2.
I strongly recommend against anyone manually configuring the Windows Registry 
as doing so, especially in XP, usually results in either disaster or unexpected 
consequences.  

Finally, even after almost 15 years of dealing with the Registry, I only edit 
it as a last resort before wiping my system clean.  The Windows Registry is not 
for the novice or, for that matter, even for the intermediate user, and that's 
putting it nicely (smile). 

So, again I urge you to just leave things as they are and, as Christopher 
suggested, accepts that sooner or later, you will have to update to a later 
version of iTunes/Windows in order to synchronize up-to-date iOS devices. 

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheryl LeFurgey
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weird itunes mystery.

I realize my system is outdated, but for what I'm doing it works fine.
Mark, your idea about the registry is news to me, and something I haven't 
considered.
If you had a similar situation to mine, how did you fix it? I'm interested, 
maybe it'd work for me.

On 5/21/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> Well, I still don't consider this a mystery. I Googled a bit, and I 
> couldn't find a support statement from Apple, but I'm sure iTunes 
> 11.04 running on Windows XP is not a supported configuration by Apple.  
> I'd consider this an unpredictable result when running a configuration 
> that isn't tested or supported by Apple. If some things, like syncing 
> to some devices, is still working, then consider yourself lucky. I 
> wouldn't assume that it'll continue to work indefinitely though, and 
> you can't assume that new features and products will still be 
> supported by older versions of software that are no longer being 
> supported. Note that I have no problem with you running Windows XP or 
> iTunes 11.04; I'm just saying, you're going to have to accept some 
> limitations with such a set up.
>
> On 21/05/16 14:28, Cheryl LeFurgey wrote:
>> I'm running ios9.3.2 on both my iphone 5 and my ipod touch 5g.
>> I litterally just connected my phone to itunes 11.4 and it synced, 
>> with absolutely no problems.
>> However, when I connect my ipod, running the same version of Ios, 
>> itunes pops up the this ipod cannot be used because it requires 
>> itunes
>> 12.2.2 or later error message.
>> So yes, I'd say there's a mystery here somewhere.
>> Also no, I don't have any IPSW files downloaded anywhere, at least 
>> not that I know of.
>>
>> On 5/21/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>> I don't think there's a mystery here. I'm prety sure you'll need a 
>>> newer version of iTunes if you're going to install IOS 9.3.2. What 
>>> version of IOS do you have on your phone now? An older version of 
>>> iTunes syncing with an older version of IOS is to be expected. Also 
>>> syncing isn't the same as installing a new version of IOS with al of 
>>> it's new features that may require a newer version of iTunes.
>>>
>>> I assume if you start the install then the install will halt since 
>>> iTunes won't actually be able to fetch up a copy of 9.1 and iTunes 
>>> 11.04 won't support 9.3.2.
>>>
>>> On 21/05/16 13:50, Cheryl LeFurgey wrote:
 I'm running itunes 11.4.
 Yes, I know, there's a newer version for xp, but I like 11, plus my 
 IPhone will still sync fine, hense the mystery.

 On 5/21/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> What version of iTunes are you running? that's the only reason I 
> can imagine you wouldn't be told you'd be getting 9.3.2 after the restore.
> I
> doubt Apple would actually start installing a version of IOS that 
> isn't even available any more and end up bricking your phone. If 
> it were me, I'd take the chance, but I definitely don't blame 
> anyone for being more cautious messing with a device that might be 
> very critical in your daily life.
>
> On 21/05/16 13:43, Cheryl LeFurgey wrote:
>> I dunno, the only time I put the ipod into DFU mode then clicked 
>> restore it offered me 9.1. I didn't go through with it because I 
>> know Apple isn't signing that firmware, so I don't want my ipod 
>> to become completely unusable.
>>
>> On 5/21/16, christopher hallsworth  wrote:
>>> It should restore to the current iOS version, 9.3.2.
 On 21 May 2016, at 14:04, Cheryl LeFurgey 
 wrote:

 Another interesting thing i forgot to mention yesterday.
 I 

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RE: Can I change the colour of the Keyboard in iPhone?

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Hello Mohib,

Although some of the third-party soft-keyboards in iOS offer dark color 
schemes, the only way to change the native iOS 9.x soft keyboard is to simply 
invert the iOS system colors.  

As for me, I have my accessibility shortcut key set to invert colors.  As a 
result, when I want to invert colors, I simply press the Home button 3-times.  
Aside from VoiceOver, inverting the screen colors is my next most frequently 
used accessibility feature.  I must use it over 100 times per day, if not more.

I do wish that Apple allowed for custom color schemes but, alas, they do not.

Mark 

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To: viphone
Subject: Can I change the colour of the Keyboard in iPhone?

Hey all, I am a partially blind user. Whenever I start typing in an edit box, 
the keyboard pops up, but visibly I can not feel the difference as the colour 
theme of the keyboard is lite. If the keyboard is in dark colour, I can 
perceive the popping up of the keyboard. So any possibility of changing the 
colour of the keyboard from lite to dark theme in my iPhone?

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RE: Apple Garage Band on the iPhone 6

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Hello John,

It sounds to me as though you have a 16GB phone, right?

I know it may sound obvious but have you rebooted your phone before and after 
installing Garage Band?  

If the answer is, “yes”, then it may be that you do not have enough space on 
your phone to successfully use the app.  This is only a guess, however.

Mark

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John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Garage Band on the iPhone 6

Hi: I've downloaded  Apple Garage Band 3 times now on the iPhone 6 and when I 
open the program, nothing happens, it simply reads: "welcome to Garage Band" 
and tapping through the screen simply reads the letters "welcome to Garage 
Band." Any suggestions? 
In setting/general storage the phone reads "used 6.1 GB, available 5.5 GB
Does availability mean the full space available or does it indicate the amount 
of free space available? Thought that somehow might be the problem.
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RE: How Do You Use iOS?

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Hello Carol,

By all means, do  post your list of apps as it will definitely be appreciated.  

Mark


From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How Do You Use iOS?

Hi Mark,

I am sorry I am so late writing, but I have been snowed under! You know what 
that's like…

I do have a list and wonder if it is too late to submit it. Perhaps you could 
let me know and I will do my best if it still appropriate. Thanks!



Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 30 Apr 2016, at 08:34, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
I just want to thank you all for contributing to this thread.  

Honestly, I cannot stop smiling when I read your lists of apps and discover all 
of the various ways you use them.

To those who have not yet posted, please remember that you do not need to list 
only apps that have not yet been mentioned; just list the apps that you use and 
how you use them if they are not self-explanatory.  

Personally, I am making a list of all of the marvelous apps you have brought to 
my attention that I have not yet explored.

>From the bottom of my heart, I thank you and, let’s keep ‘em coming.  (Big, 
>Big, Smile).

Mark
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How Do You Use iOS?

Nice list, Mark, here are a few more I use although some of them require 
hardware:

Sonos - requires Sonos music players, I think it's been discussed here enough 
so I don't have to go into more details as to what exactly the Sonos system 
does, if somebody doesn't know and wants to know go to www.sonos.com and check 
the list archives for "Sonos" related posts.

Netatmo: requires the Netatmo weather station

Thermostat: requires the Wi-Fi capable thermostat from www.RadioThermostat.com

Nuheat: requires in-floor electric heating mats from Nuheat (the kind that are 
installed underneath tile floors. The app allows me to control the thermostats 
connected to each mat/room that has it, in my case two bathrooms and my kitchen.

Nest: I use it not for thermostat, but I purchased 5 Dropcam Pro a couple of 
years ago for security cameras for my retail store. Dropcam was then purchased 
by Nest and the Dropcam app was replaced with the Nest app. Of course the video 
feed is useless to me directly, but the cameras also transmit audio and you can 
press a button in the app and speak through the camera.

CBC News for Canadian news and Weather Office for Canadian weather

Google: That is the Google search app which also has those Google Now cards.

Transit: Gives youtransit information for many cities

Parcel: for parcel tracking

Whats App: one of the social media apps I use in addition to Skype, fAcebook 
and Messenger

Roboform: Mark mentioned another password manager, I have been a Roboform user 
for many years and for $20 a year I get the Roboform Everywhere service which 
means my passcards and SafeNotes are available on any of my 5 work and home 
PC's and my iPhone.

Mark mentioned OneDrive which I use more now that I have both an Office 365 
business and home subscription with 1 Tb of storage. But I also use Dropbox.

Compass: the native compass app which is sometimes handy when I need to know 
direction and of course it also has the built-in level.

Scotia Bank: the app of my Canadian financial institution

Paprika: a recipe app, but it's not an app that actually contains recipes, it's 
an app which allows you to search for recipes and you can then add them to 
Paprika with just a couple of taps and all the information is nicely displayed 
with tabs for ingredients and directions, you can have multiple timers, make a 
shopping list out of the ingredients for a recipe etc. My wife also has it on 
her iPhone and we use the same log-in for Paprika so if she adds a recipe it's 
automatically in my list as well.

Speedtest: for checking cellular and/or Wi-Fi connection spped

Authy: an app that generates one-time passcodes for accounts where I have 
enabled 2-step verification

For recognition and related: Light Detector (Mark doesn't need it because he's 
got more vision than a hundred others of us on this list *smile* Talking 
Goggles, Camfind and Tap Tap See

Apple Store app: for browsing and buying products from Apple, making genious 
bar appointments etc.
Shopper's Drug Mart: Canadian drug mart chain which let's me use coupons, 
specials, display my Shopper's Optimum card to be scanned etc.

Walk Log: tracks distance walked and more

I'll stop here, there are more, but some are quite specific since a couple of 
my suppliers have apps and that wouldn't apply to anybody else.

Regards,
Sieghard




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RE: Moderator Contact Info for the Mac Visionaries Group Needed

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Hello Chris,

First, I want you to know that there is no built-in mechanism by which to 
notify an applicant as to why they were or were not accepted.  

Second, I suggest that the best way to subscribe to any Google Groups list is 
via the web form which allows one to include a short sentence or two as to why 
they wish to join.  I'm almost certain that the email application method does 
not allow for this.  I think the email application method works best when one 
wishes to join an open list where a moderator is not required to approve an 
applicant.  

Finally, to join the Mac Visionaries mailing list, from within your preferred 
web browser, go to http://groups.google.com and search for the group.  Then, 
find the subscribe button and complete the form.

Mark

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Cris Ali
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moderator Contact Info for the Mac Visionaries Group Needed

I had the same problem. I tried to subscribe to the macvisionaries list several 
times and I always got a message that my subscription request was denied.  I 
tried to subscribe through an email message, so I got no explanation to why my 
subscription was rejected.  I wish the moderators of the macvisionaries list 
would state the reasons justifying the denial of people's s subscription 
requests.
Regards,
Cris
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Brian Hansen
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:52 PM
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Subject: Moderator Contact Info for the Mac Visionaries Group Needed

I just picked up my first Mac the other day, and I tried using the email link 
posted on here to get subscribed to the Mac Visionaries list.  I seemed to have 
had some kind of error responding the first time to their automated email, and 
after my second attempt, it said that I had been denied.  If anyone here could 
send me the email, or contact info for the moderator, I would greatly 
appreciate it.  Thanks.
Te why they would reject someone's subscription.
Regards,
Cris
Blessings,

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RE: Moderator Contact Info for the Mac Visionaries Group Needed

[M. Taylor]

Hello Brian,

I am responding, on-list, so that all can benefit.

I am the moderator for the Mac Visionaries list.

I probably denied your application to the list because you failed to type in a 
short message stating why you wish to join.  

As we do have spammers attempting to join our ranks, it is important that those 
who wish to be subscribed complete the entire form including stating who you 
are and why you wish to join.

So, go ahead and send another subscription request and be certain to mention 
either this list or give a sentence that will let me know that you are not a 
spammer or something.  

By the way, if someone submits a request and I recognize their email address I 
will approve it but, as you can guess, I don't know everyone's email address.

See you on the Mac Visionaries mailing list.

Mark 

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Brian Hansen
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 8:52 PM
To: VIPhones
Subject: Moderator Contact Info for the Mac Visionaries Group Needed

I just picked up my first Mac the other day, and I tried using the email link 
posted on here to get subscribed to the Mac Visionaries list.  I seemed to have 
had some kind of error responding the first time to their automated email, and 
after my second attempt, it said that I had been denied.  If anyone here could 
send me the email, or contact info for the moderator, I would greatly 
appreciate it.  Thanks.

Blessings,

Brian


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Is Anyone Using a Braille Display with a Language Learning App, Successfully?

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I am seeking a learning language app that offers both audio lessons and
vocabulary text that I can read with my Braille display.

My hearing is such that I cannot tell the difference between certain
consonants such as b and d so need to confirm vocabulary.  

Does DuoLingo provide such features?  

Short of this, does anyone know from where I can obtain Braille-based
Japanese lessons for beginners?  

Thank you all in advance.

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RE: Voiceover Sluggishness with Message Replies

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Hello Joe,

The sluggishness you are experiencing, in the scenario you described, is the 
result of an ongoing bug that has been well documented.  

Hopefully, it will be resolved in a future release of iOS.

Mark

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Joe
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover Sluggishness with Message Replies

Hello,

I have my iPhone set up to pop up with a notification when I receive a text 
message. When I tap on Reply, I get to the keyboard but find Voiceover is 
rather sluggish. I'm far better off tapping on Close and going over to the 
Messages app manually, replying that way. Does anyone know why the discrepancy 
in ease of use? I only experience this sluggishness when replying from a text 
alert. I'm on whatever the latest iOS build is on an iPhone 6S. Thanks in 
advance for any suggestions.

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RE: Native iOS Mail app Quickly switching between individual and Thread view?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Gerardo,

Speaking off the cuff, I would say that the anser to your question is no.  
There is no shortcut to changing how messages are displayed from within the 
native iOS 9.x mail client/app.

Mark 

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Gerardo Corripio
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Native iOS Mail app Quickly switching between individual and Thread 
view?

Using the default iOS EMail app, rather than from Settings/Mail, is 
there a quicker way to on the fly, switch between Thread and Individual message 
view? Thanks for info. 

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S

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RE: Any Problems with Recent iOS 9.3.2 Update?

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Hello Alan,

Other than the native camera app view finder VoiceOver accessibility bug not 
being squashed, I have not encountered any additional problems with iOS 9.3.2. 

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:17 AM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Any Problems with Recent iOS 9.3.2 Update?

Hi List,

I've finally taken the plunge and updated my Windows desktop system to iTunes 
12.4 which was recently released so that I can now upgrade iOS on my iPhone 6 
from version 8.3 to the latest 9.3.2 release.

Other than the one thread I've seen on a problem Wren had installing the 
upgrade, I haven't noticed any comments about it. Has anyone experienced 
anything negative with the latest iOS upgrade with respect to VoiceOver or 
other accessibility issues or with respect to once-working apps not working as 
well?

I've gotten my iPhone fully backed up to iTunes and will do a full restart of 
it and remove any apps from the Apps Switcher before upgrading it via iTunes on 
my computer. The only thing I probably won't do is reset the network and I'll 
just ask for Sieghard's forgiveness on this because I know he is a big fan of 
doing it.

I'm looking forward to finally joining the rest of you with an updated iOS.

Alan Lemly
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RE: Forwarding calls on Vorizon

[M. Taylor]

Hello Robin,

While I certainly do not doubt your method for enabling call forwarding on 
Verizon Wireless, I am surprised that one cannot use the built-in iOS method to 
enable the feature.  

For example, on A T & T Wireless, to enable call forwarding 

1.
>From the Settings list, select Phone.

2.
Select Call Forwarding.  In the resulting dialog box, tap to enable the feature 
then, in the edit field, simply enter the number to which you would like your 
calls to be forwarded.  

To disable the feature, simply tap to toggle Call Forwarding off.  One nice 
thing about this method is that, assuming that you subsequently wish to forward 
calls to the same number, the next time you enable the feature, the previously 
entered number automatically populates the edit field.

Mark

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Robin
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 10:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Forwarding calls on Vorizon

ToForward (VZW):

Press *72 + MobilePhoneNumber
&
To DeActivateForward (VZW):
*720 + MobilePhoneNumber

I beleive this IS How ItIs Performed ON VerizonWireless (VZW)

If I'm Wrong, Please (PrettyPlease) CorrectMe

Thanx
At 10:18 AM 5/18/2016, you wrote:
>Hi Folks,
>I have a friend’s iPhone 6+ and she uses Verizon. She is currently in 
>the hospital and wants me to have her calls forwarded to my number 
>before I give her back her phone. How do I do this? I see that *73 
>disables call forwarding, but I don’t know how to actually forward 
>calls. I would appreciate any help.
>
>Kristeen
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RE: My first attempt to use Apple Pay, was: Apple Pay finally gets main stream support in Canada

[M. Taylor]

Hello Sieghard,  

I’ve never tried using Apple Pay via a drive-through but, in the normal course 
of events, I do the following at MacDonald’s, inside the restaurant.

1.
As a general rule of thumb, I restart my phone at the beginning of every day.

2.
Once the order has been placed, I ask the sales associate, if she/he is ready 
to receive payment.  You would be amazed at how often he/she will reply, “Just 
one moment.”  

3.
Once the okay is given, with the phone locked, with my thumb on the Home 
button—not pressing it but merely touching it, I lower the phone down to almost 
touching the terminal.  I hold the phone there for about 1-2 seconds until it 
vibrates.  During that time, the phone wakes up and the transaction takes 
place.  

That’s really all there is to it.  

Now keep in mind that I have not disabled any Touch-ID lock screen features.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My first attempt to use Apple Pay, was: Apple Pay finally gets main 
stream support in Canada

Hi again,

OK, of course I had to try this so when I had to run a few erands today with my 
manager I asked him to go through the McDonald drive-through. When we came to 
the pick-up window the lady gave him the machine, I leaned over and held my 
iPhone 6S Plus up to it after waking it up (I was on the lockscreen). I saw 
that it popped up with my CIBC Visa and I put my thumb on the home button, but 
nothing happened. I finally tapped on “Use Passcode” and the keypad came up, 
but I was not able to enter my passcode because the phone/Voiceover became so 
entirely sluggish that I couldn’t do anything. Of course it was lunch hour and 
cars were piling up behind us. I tried to enter my passcode but couldn’t do it 
because of the sluggishness of the phone.
I finally pulled out my Mastercard and had barely tapped it against the machine 
when it beeped and the transaction was approved.
So, Apple Pay 0, tap method 1. I have to try again another time maybe at a 
place where there is no time pressure. I did go into Settings > Passcode and 
Touch Id afterwards to make sure, but Touch Id was enabled for Apple Pay so 
that was not the reason.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fazil
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Pay finally gets main stream support in Canada

Well done, Sieghard!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 10:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Pay finally gets main stream support in Canada

Hi fellow Canadians,

This morning I was browsing through the news articles with the CBC News app on 
my iPhone and in the Tech and Science section found an article which surprised 
me and also made me quite happy.
The article explained that as of today CIBC and Royal Bank credit card holders 
can add their credit cards in the Wallet app and use Apple Pay. So far only 
American express card holders were able to use Apple Pay in Canada (since last 
November I think) and not that many people here have American Express cards and 
in many stores even some larger chains they aren’t even accepted since they 
charge a much higher percentage for the merchant. I accept American Express at 
my store and get charged 3.5% whereas I only pay 1.6% for Visa and Mastercard 
although there are a few extra fees on top of that 1.6% for premium cards, 
corporate cards etc.
Anyhow, the article went on to say that Bank of Montreal Mastercards should 
follow soon and that Scotia and TD debit cards are not far behind.
I am a Scotia Bank customer both for my business and personal accounts, but I 
do have a CIBC Aeroplan Gold Visa  so I promptly opened Wallet and within a 
minute or two I had added my card.
I was still in bed as it was early and too lazy to go get my card to try and 
take a picture of it so I chose to add it manually.
When I first started I was asked for my Apple Id password. I then typed in the 
card number, tapped next and then selected the expiry date and typed in the 
3-digit card verification code. After tapping next again I was asked to select 
a verification option and here I had email or text message as an option. I 
selected text message and 2 seconds after I tapped Next I received a text 
message with a 6-digit code which I had to type in, after that I received the 
message that my card had been added.
It will be interesting to see if this works at most places where contactless 
transactions are already an option which is very common here. The article says 
this:

"With the support of two of the largest banks in Canada, BMO Financial Group 
and Royal Bank of Canada (RBC), consumer adoption of Apple Pay is expected to 
increase significantly," the statement said. "Many of Moneris's 

RE: A lot of mail is being marked as Spam

[M. Taylor]

Hello Terri,

There are several reasons why you could be seeing an increase in the amount of 
messages being marked as spam.

It's best to troubleshoot using the most obvious assumptions, first.  

For example, on what device are the messages being marked as spam?  If you are 
seeing messages being marked as spam on your Mac, in the native Mail client, 
(best case scenario), then simply go into Mail preferences and disable junk 
mail filtering.  

My point, be certain that you have disabled or manually configured each mail 
client on each device in which messages are being marked as spam.

If, on the other hand, your clients are not responsible, then you will need to 
configure junk/spam filtering from the mail service provider.  This is to say, 
if you are using Google, Microsoft, iCloud, etc, then you will need to login to 
the system using your preferred web browser and configure the settings from 
there.

Good Luck,

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A lot of mail is being marked as Spam

Hi everyone,

Ok, I do not understand something, at all!
I am on at least 8 lists, all for different types of things.

One of my lists was very quiet, which is rather odd. So I contacted the list, 
and people had said that it had been a little quieter.
When I still noticed there was an issue, I contacted the owner of the list. He 
assured me everything was fine.

However, I have all of a sudden realized that a lot of my mail, is for some 
reason, going to my Spam folder. I do not understand why all of a sudden this 
is happening.
What could be going on?
How can I fix it?
Is that possible?

I also noticed that a lot of mail that comes in to my inbox, says that it is 
spam, or has been marked as such. But it is not Spam. So this issue is really 
frustrating the heck out of me!

Could anyone please help?

Thank you very much!

Terri
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RE: iTunes for windows and screen readers

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jerry,

I am so disheartened to discover all of the difficulties list members are 
encountering when attempting to use iTunes for Windows via a screen reader.

However, the one big change apple has made to its book content is that now, 
unlike in the recent past, users no longer need to connect their iOS devices to 
a computer in order to synchronize either new or previously purchased titles to 
an iOS device.  

Consequently, one can now purchase, delete, and/or re-download titles via iOS, 
only.  Or, as I sometimes do, we can purchase a title via a computer and then 
download it in iOS.

I hope this information makes obtaining Apple's book content a little easier 
for you.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jerry White
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for windows and screen readers

I agree these areas are pretty much ok, with a minimal amount of headache.  I 
must point out, however, that syncing audio books to your phone is a nightmare! 
 I feel more like I am performing some feat of necromancy when trying to sync 
an audio book to my phone.  You have to go through many cumbersome "rituals" to 
do it.  You have to follow the steps correctly and hope that you get it right 
and can sync your book.  You have to perform them many times sometimes to get 
the results you want.

Other than this, I agree that iTunes is mostly useable.
-Jerry

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for windows and screen readers

It’s great it’s working that well for you, but for me with Window-Eyes, I am 
getting virtually no field name prompts, so instructions such as “tab until you 
hear …” don’t work for me.  At least, when I was trying to setup syncing they 
did not, and even now I could not duplicate whatever it took to break my 
particular log jam.

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for windows and screen readers

Hi Carol,

iTunes has a few areas that are difficult to deal with, mainly iTunes file 
transfer and syncing apps. Everything else is actually not that difficult and I 
always wonder why there seems to be an almost awe-like fear of iTunes.
Syncing apps is also easily done, it’s just that it used to be easier and 
primarily it was easy to go through your entire list of apps, check the ones 
you wanted and then sync them to your iPhone all at once. Now it’s easiest if 
you use the search box and type in the name of the app you want, then tab a few 
times to where you hear “Install” and then activate that, then activate “Apply” 
or start a sync. I just did a bunch of apps this way on the 6S we got replaced 
and which my wife now has.
Music and ringtones can still be selected and synced easily and doing updates, 
restores and backups is also not difficult.
I also find navigating the iTunes Store relatively easy with Jaws 17. I can 
still search for an app or a song or an artist and press Control+Enter instead 
of just enter to search the iTunes store instead of my local library. Then I 
just wait a bit until the page loads and you can use headings to go to the 
different areas like “Songs”, “Albums”, “iPad Apps”, “iPhone Apps” etc.
I have been meaning to try Mark’s suggestion and use the Jaws touch cursor to 
see how that helps, but for the most part F6, tab, Control+F and the shortcuts 
for the various media libraries like Control+1 for music, Control+2 for movies 
etc. work very well.


I do agree that it’s a shame that the iCloud website hasn’t been made 
accessible by a company that prides itself on accessibility, but iTunes is not 
nearly as bad as many people make it out to be.


Regards,
Sieghard


From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes for windows and screen readers

Hi all,

I wonder, seriously, if it's time to talk with Apple about this.

We almost all hate iTunes with a passion, ... and it's not surprising! It's 
really unfair that VI's should have to put up with this all the time ... It's 
so bad that Apple should let such a standard exist for those of us who really 
need iTunes to be straightforward, work flawlessly out of the box, have minimal 
changes made and ... heaps more!

We could all write to Accessability but, before we do, can some of those who 
are knowledgeable perhaps give us all the things that don't currently work or 
were broken with iOS 9? Then we could write individually, perhaps.

Does anyone know if there are strong enough feelings within Applevis for those 
who are obviously probably more clued up than the average iTunes VI user about 
the problems and would back us in a 

RE: question regarding Googlestore content

[M. Taylor]

Hello Susan,

As long as you have a username and password for any Google app, you have a 
Google account and you can use those credentials to either purchase/redeem 
content from the Google Play Store.

Whether or not it is worth the effort, is up to you.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
susan
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: question regarding Googlestore content

Hello listers,
My daughter gave me a Google giftcard for my birthday—she has an android phone 
and did not consider that I might not be able to use it until after the fact. 
Is it possible for me to redeem the card and purchase Googleplay content as 
with Itunes and is it worth it to do so? I do have the Google music app that 
used to be Songza which uses my gmail username and password, but am not quite 
sure whether this constitutes a Google account or whether there is something 
else I would need to do. I could not find any helpful info on 
www.googleplay.com so any thoughts much appreciated. Assuming that I could 
purchase Google content on my PC, can I synch or transfer to my phone? Feels 
like I should know this, lol. Many thanks.
 
Susan
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RE: iTunes for windows and screen readers

[M. Taylor]

Hello Kathy,

Hmm!  I have never used Window Eyes but I understand it is a fine screen reader.

As for the two tasks you mentioned:

1.
I have never attempted to use iTunes for editing track lengths.  I use Gold 
Wave for all my audio editing chores, in Windows.  I believe I am using version 
5.x of Gold Wave.  I believe there is a much newer version but, as yet, have 
not updated to it so cannot attest to its screen reader accessibility.

2.
As for adding songs to Playlists, I have never used the Windows Cut and Paste 
technique, choosing instead to use the Context menu method.  This is to say, 
when I want to add a title to a Playlist, I first select the title and then tap 
the Application key on my keyboard to bring up the Shortcut list of items one 
of which being the option labeled "add to playlist."   

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kathy Metters
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 6:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes for windows and screen readers

  Until recently, window eyes worked well with iTunes. It still works pretty 
well, I use it on a daily basis. Everything seems very  accessible. There are 
only two problems, I believe these are major ones; at least to me they are. Lol 
 The first major problem is the editing of the time length of a song. This is 
essential, in making ringtones. The next problem is that I used to be able to 
use the standard Windows commands for copy and paste and cut to work with my 
playlists and items in each playlist. However, for the last couple updates of  
iTunes, this functionality has been removed. Other than that, everything else 
works fine!

Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 28, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have never used iTunes for windows, because I have a Mac. However, if 
> friend of mine was just told by an Apple accessibility senior representative 
> that window eyes works with iTunes for windows and is the only screen reader 
> which Apple says does that. I know that a few years ago, and it literally has 
> been years, GW micro had been touting this fact. But I know a lot of changes 
> have happened with both window eyes and iTunes since then I suspect that this 
> is the case of apple not keeping their propaganda, I mean their publication, 
> up-to-date. So for you who use Windows version of iTunes and screen readers 
> two questions. One, Is it true, WE users, that iTunes works perfectly well 
> with the latest version of window eyes? And two, what about other screen 
> readers? Do any work well?
> Mary
> 
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RE: Contacts question -- second request

[M. Taylor]

Hello Donald,

There are several ways you can get a hardcopy print-out of your Contacts.  I’m 
assuming you're using a Windows PC.

A.
I think the easiest way would simply be to login to your iCloud account via 
your preferred browser and from there, simply choose to export your Contacts 
list as a .CSV file from which you can print or import into a program such as 
Excel.

B.
I did a quick Google search and located the following procedure that should 
work, also.

How to Print Contacts on iPhone 5S/6/6S/SE, Free

Apple iTunes makes sharing data between your iPhone and your computer a breeze. 
Contacts stored in your iPhone’s address book can easily be copied to your 
computer. It has a few restrictions, however, and one of them is limited 
printing options. If you want to print iPhone contact list, make use of iTunes 
syncing.

You can sync contacts from iPhone 5s/6/6s/se for later printing with the use of 
iTunes. No third-party programs needed, but you must have the latest version of 
iTunes installed on your computer. To print contacts from iPhone, simply follow 
the steps below:

1.
Connect your iPhone to the computer using the provided USB cable. Launch iTunes 
and click the “iPhone” icon on the left side of the screen.

2.
Click the “Info” tab and place a check mark beside “Sync Contacts with”. Select 
“Windows Contacts” under the drop-down menu and hit “Apply”.

3.
Minimize iTunes, click “Start” and then click your username. Locate the 
“Contacts” folder and double-click to open it.

4.
Click the “Arrow” directly to the right of the “Share With” button and select 
“Export”. Choose “CSV” and then click “Export”.

5.
Choose where to save the file and click “Next” to continue. Select the iPhone 
contacts filed you wish to keep and hit “Finish”.

6.
Now that you have your iPhone contacts in CSV file. Open it as a spreadsheet 
and print your contacts.

C.
Donald, there is also an app in the iOS App Store that will facilitate the 
printing of the Contacts list.

I will paste in its name and description below my signature.  

I hope you find this information helpful.  

Good Luck,

Mark
Print My Contacts
By Mahesh Kanniah

App Description 

Print My Contacts lets you print/backup/restore your contacts. Make a pdf or an 
xls file of your contacts and print them out.

Key Features:
* BACKUP/RESTORE CONTACTS ACROSS MULTIPLE OPERATING SYSTEMS.
* GET REMINDERS TO BACKUP YOUR CONTACTS.
* DE-DUPE YOUR CONTACTS. NO MORE MULTIPLE CONTACTS FOR SAME PERSON.
* EXPORT YOUR CONTACTS AS A .VCF FILE FOR EASY IMPORT.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 9:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Contacts question -- second request

As I received no response when I posted this on Monday, I thought I would try 
once again.

I do not have an air print printer but would like if possible to make a hard 
copy of my contacts list.  In lieu of that, is it possible to email my contacts 
list so it can be printed?  I realize of course that I can backup to iCloud, 
but I also want a hard copy.

Thanks for ideas.

Don Roberts

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RE: Possibly off topic, a question about the play room

[M. Taylor]

Hello Shawn,

It would seem that this thread is more about playing the game than it is about 
using Safari.  

It would be as if someone wanted to discuss the finer points of reading the 
Wall Street Journal, on-list, because they use Safari to access it.  

Sometimes there comes a point in a thread when the focus is less about using 
the Safari app to being more about the nuances of the destination site.

If you would like to discuss this further, please contact me directly, off-list.

Thank you,

Mark
  
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possibly off topic, a question about the play room

Hi Mark, I'm confused. How is this thread off topic? We're talking about being 
able to play QuentinC's Playroom using Safari on an iOS device. Is there 
something I'm missing?

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Apr 15, 2016, at 5:26 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> As the list moderator, I request that this thread be closed as it is 
> off-topic.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> rajmund
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Possibly off topic, a question about the play room
> 
> Hi Shawn,
> I've tried within the chat window, that failed.  I'l; I'll try a bluetooth 
> keyboard later.
> Sent from a BrailleNote
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 20:44:47 -0500
> Subject: Re: Possibly off topic, a question about the play room
> 
> If you don't get the on screen keyboard anywhere else besides the chat 
> window, then it can't be done with iOS.  Maybe if you had a bluetooth 
> keyboard it could work, but if you're only playing via touch screen, I'd say 
> that you're pretty much SOL.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
> On Apr 14, 2016, at 11:37 AM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Shawn,
> Do I press it within the chat window? Or where abouts is the keyboard?
> 
> Sent from a BrailleNote
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 10:37:54 -0500
> Subject: Re: Possibly off topic, a question about the play room
> 
> Hey Rajmund.  I figured that I'd start a game and find out the key to auction 
> properties myself since none of us didn't have a helpful answer.  To enter a 
> bid, press the letter G.  That is, if you get the on screen keyboard when you 
> play.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
> On Apr 12, 2016, at 6:03 PM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Shawn,
> First of all, thanks.  But to keep it on topic, can that command, once we 
> know what it is, be performed either in braille screen input, or through a 
> braille display?
> 
> Sent from a BrailleNote
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 15:31:18 -0500
> Subject: Re: Possibly off topic, a question about the play room
> 
> Hi Rajmund.  I think you need a keyboard to participate in auctioning 
> properties.  I haven't played Monopoly on the Playroom for quite some time, 
> so I can't remember the keyboard command.  
> Can someone that has played this game refresh my memory off list because it's 
> a little off topic? I'll tell you what it is after I find out Rajmund.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
> On Apr 12, 2016, at 2:38 PM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> So, recently, someone sent us this link which is fully voice over and safari 
> compatible on IOS: qcsalon.net .
> I do have to say, I've been playing a fair bit, well, with the games that I 
> know how to, but there's something that has been bothering me.  And no, it 
> isn't that most yell at you to be faster, I

RE: Irritating mail issue that started with iOS 9

[M. Taylor]

Hello Carol,

I am trying to catch up on this thread but, as far as I can see, your name is 
showing up in the from field just fine.

Perhaps I'm missing something.  

Mark

From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Irritating mail issue that started with iOS 9

I haven't given up on this one! Please could you confirm whether it's just with 
virgin media or NTL addresses, or whether it is when I am using specific 
equipment. I sometimes use my phone, as with this email, and at other times i's 
my Braille sense or computer. This may help me to sort out what may be going 
wrong.

So far as I am aware, I have set up my account using the settings recommended 
for computers, i.e., in the case of NTL addresses, it seems they always need 
you to put your full address. My name, therefore, does not appear on its own!

I have applied a "Reply to" address to my email account but it's difficult for 
me to know what is actually happening. If you want to discuss this further and 
help me to solve it, please write perhaps  off the list! Thanks and apologies 
again for those who are inconvenienced by this!
On 2 Apr 2016, at 4:07 pm, Richard Turner  wrote:

Carol, not picking on you here, but several people seem to have set up their 
Email accounts without their name, so Emails to the list from those folks look 
like they are coming from the list not from the individual to the list.
Jenny, myself, Harry, Mary, Sieghard, and many, many more; show their name in 
the from field in the list of messages, followed by the subject.
But Carol, Sandy, and I think Ari among others it just says 
ViPone list, Re: Irritating mail issue that started with iOS 9

I have no idea if this is related at all.
I've only seen something like this after I've selected to reply all to a list 
message.
Richard

(Sent from my iPod 6

On Apr 2, 2016, at 5:18 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:
Oh dear, mystified…

Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 2 Apr 2016, at 11:17 am, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
 wrote:
Mary,
Yes I have this issue and I'm using an iPhone 6. so, when I initiate a message 
to the list, I going to an existing message flick down till  I find the link to 
post to the group and double tap that. it is only a workaround, of course, but 
I do wonder why some of us have this issue. and, actually, it is interesting, 
because I too am always offered Carol Piersons viphone address.

good luck,
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone


On 2 Apr 2016, at 05:01, Richard Turner  wrote:


Mary,
I have the 5s and I do not have that issue on iOS 9.3. I don't think I ever had 
that problem.
Now, if you have people in your contacts that you have copied along with the 
VIPhone list, the app could be remembering that they are part of a group.
If you do reply all, this could be what is happening.
I have a contact for VIPhone list which I think helps.
Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Apr 1, 2016, at 8:19 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Back when I had my I phone 5S, if I typed the start of an Address into the "to" 
field, I would see a list of possible addresses. For instance, for the VI phone 
list, I could type VI, and the first thing that showed up was the proper 
address for the VI phone list at Google groups. Now however, if I type VI, 
instead of seeing that plain-vanilla address I see some kind of strange deal 
such as Pearson, via the iPhone Carol. Something like that. And the same thing 
for mac visionaries and other email lists. It always has a name, and the name 
is split up half before and half after the name of the list. I have no idea why 
this started or how to get rid of it. I want my list mail to go to 
plain-vanilla list addresses without the extra verbiage, because I am sure that 
extra verbiage probably shows up when other people see my email, and it must 
look pretty weird. Has anyone else noticed this? And how did you fix it?
Mary


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A Question About How To Delete Audio Books from the Audible tvOS App on Apple TV 4th Generation

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this question.

Does anyone know how to delete an audio book from the Audible app on the
latest version of tvOS?

My situation is as follows:

Because I have a legacy Audible account, one that has not yet been linked to
Amazon, I can only login to my account using a username and password instead
of an email address and password.  At present, the tvOS version of the app
does not support this.  

Yesterday, after opening the Audible app in tvOS, I went to the accounts
tab.  To my surprise, even when not logged in, one can browse and download
free audio books.  I took advantage of this feature and downloaded one
title.  Everything works perfectly accept that I cannot discover how to
remove the book.  

Any and all replies welcomed.

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RE: A Question About How To Delete Audio Books from the Audible tvOS App on Apple TV 4th Generation

[M. Taylor]

Hello My Friend,

Yes I did, indeed, attempt to use the same method one would use to delete an 
app.  It does not work.

I saw the Audible app in my purchase history of the tvOS App Store on my Apple 
TV.  I never would have thought of downloading it were it not in my purchased 
list.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question About How To Delete Audio Books from the Audible tvOS 
App on Apple TV 4th Generation

Hi mark,

Have you tried the same way you get rid of apps, press and hold the touchpad, 
then press the Play/Pause button? This is only a guess which leads me to my 
question. How do get Audible on the Apple TV? I can only assume for some reason 
it is not available in Canada because when I look in my purchased apps where I 
see all apps I purchased on my iPhone and which are also available on TVOS it 
is not there. When I search for "Audible" all I get is the app for 
AudioBooks.com. Since we use the US version of Audible in Canada I am really 
surprised it's not available.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question About How To Delete Audio Books from the Audible tvOS App 
on Apple TV 4th Generation

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this question.

Does anyone know how to delete an audio book from the Audible app on the latest 
version of tvOS?

My situation is as follows:

Because I have a legacy Audible account, one that has not yet been linked to 
Amazon, I can only login to my account using a username and password instead of 
an email address and password.  At present, the tvOS version of the app does 
not support this.  

Yesterday, after opening the Audible app in tvOS, I went to the accounts tab.  
To my surprise, even when not logged in, one can browse and download free audio 
books.  I took advantage of this feature and downloaded one title.  Everything 
works perfectly accept that I cannot discover how to remove the book.  

Any and all replies welcomed.

Mark

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