RE: Qardio app, alternatives

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I just did a bit of Googling and there are certainly people asking the same 
thing and rumors Qardio is bankrupt.
Their website is still up and running and Amazon apparently still offers their 
products for sale, nothing recent on their website under the “news” link.
I posted the app was still in the app store, but I just had another look and 
I’ll retract my statement, the app I found when I searched for “Qardio” is 
called “Cardiio: heart rate monitor, pulse oximeter and analyser. I wasn’t 
paying too much attention and while spelled very differently, I was just 
swiping a bit quickly and it sounded almost the same.



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Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 5:55 PM
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Subject: RE: Qardio app, alternatives

I have not heard this and when I just did a search for “Qardio” in the App 
Store, it came right up.
The version showing is 4.0.17 and it was updated 1 week ago.

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Subject: Qardio app, alternatives

Transferring things to my IP16 Pro tonight, and found out that the Qardio app 
is no longer available..  After doing some research it appears they went 
bankrupt earlier in the year.  Never knew that.

So, wondering if anyone is using other apps and devices for weight, 
temperature, and blood pressure.  I know Whitings makes some stuff, but if I 
remember from earlier threads those devices and apps aren’t totally accessible. 
 My Qardio scale vibrates, so I know when it is taking a measurement.

Not really wanting to replace all that stuff .. none of it is even 2 years old. 
 Maybe the phone goes back and I wait another year or so ..


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RE: Qardio app, alternatives

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have not heard this and when I just did a search for “Qardio” in the App 
Store, it came right up.
The version showing is 4.0.17 and it was updated 1 week ago.

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Subject: Qardio app, alternatives

Transferring things to my IP16 Pro tonight, and found out that the Qardio app 
is no longer available..  After doing some research it appears they went 
bankrupt earlier in the year.  Never knew that.

So, wondering if anyone is using other apps and devices for weight, 
temperature, and blood pressure.  I know Whitings makes some stuff, but if I 
remember from earlier threads those devices and apps aren’t totally accessible. 
 My Qardio scale vibrates, so I know when it is taking a measurement.

Not really wanting to replace all that stuff .. none of it is even 2 years old. 
 Maybe the phone goes back and I wait another year or so ..


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RE: unable to change the voice or speaking rate in the rotor

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Did you reboot your phone?

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Barr
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: unable to change the voice or speaking rate in the rotor

Hello,
I got my iPhone 16 Pro yesterday. All of the voices I want on the rotor appear 
to be there, but I can't switch between them. Also, when I attempt to increase 
or decrease the speaking rate in the rotor, it says the new rate but nothing 
actually changes. I know I can change it in VoiceOver settings, but only in ten 
percent increments, so I can't change it to 65%, for example. Is anyone else 
experiencing this?
Jessica

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RE: VoiceOver learning app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It’s a 3 finger triple tap, a 3 finger double tap will mute or unmute speech.


From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver learning app

Screen curtain on/off is a 3 finger double tap.


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Irons
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver learning app

I was trying to turn screen curtain off. What to definitely keep it off so that 
if I need help on my phone, people would be able to see what I was doing. But I 
also understand that the forefinger double tap is supposed to turn off the help 
section on the phone as well. Just a bit confused, but that’s just something to 
be expected.
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 21, 2024, at 9:16 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

What function are you trying to accomplish with a four finger touch?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver learning app

Great! But the 4 fingers touch doesn't works for me.
Lyne


Le 21 sept. 2024 à 09:10, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> a écrit :

Yes, and it is free, but if the person needing this is on iOS 18, I strongly 
recommend using the built-in VoiceOver Tutorial in the VoiceOver settings.
VOStarter was updated last in 2023.

Just my 2¢ worth.


Richard, USA
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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mama 
Peach
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver learning app

Thank you, that’s the one.

On Sep 19, 2024, at 6:45 PM, William James 
mailto:wiljame...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Vo Starter was updated last year and is currently on 401  Here's so link:




VO Starter
VoiceOver Training for 
iOS

Sent from my iPhone Pro Max



On Sep 19, 2024, at 6:36 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
did you try applevis?
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Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 11:27 AM
Subject: VoiceOver learning app


I am aware that the iPhone has a voiceover practice section, but they’re
used to be an app that would allow you to learn voiceover, but I’m unable to
find that app anymore. Does anybody know where I can find it or what it’s
called?

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RE: VoiceOver learning app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Also, a 4-finger double tap turns on Voiceover practice/help, it will say 
“Starting help, to stop help, perform a 2 finger double tap or 2 finger scrub 
or press escape on the keyboard”.

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver learning app

Well, it is supposed to put you at the top of the screen if you touch near the 
top and near the bottom if you touch near the bottom.

When in VoiceOver help, I just did a four finger touch and it said exactly that 
when I touched near the top or bottom.

Richard, USA
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver learning app

Hello Richard,

I went in gesture section and 4 fingers test doesn't works when it's time to 
try)
It doesn't say what it suppose to say.
Lyne

Le 21 sept. 2024 à 10:16, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> a écrit :

What function are you trying to accomplish with a four finger touch?


Richard, USA
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver learning app

Great! But the 4 fingers touch doesn't works for me.
Lyne


Le 21 sept. 2024 à 09:10, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> a écrit :

Yes, and it is free, but if the person needing this is on iOS 18, I strongly 
recommend using the built-in VoiceOver Tutorial in the VoiceOver settings.
VOStarter was updated last in 2023.

Just my 2¢ worth.


Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mama 
Peach
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver learning app

Thank you, that’s the one.

On Sep 19, 2024, at 6:45 PM, William James 
mailto:wiljame...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Vo Starter was updated last year and is currently on 401  Here's so link:




VO Starter
VoiceOver Training for 
iOS

Sent from my iPhone Pro Max



On Sep 19, 2024, at 6:36 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
did you try applevis?
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To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 11:27 AM
Subject: VoiceOver learning app


I am aware that the iPhone has a voiceover practice section, but they’re
used to be an app that would allow you to learn voiceover, but I’m unable to
find that app anymore. Does anybody know where I can find it or what it’s
called?

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RE: VoiceOver learning app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Screen curtain is not turned on or off by a 4-finger double tap, but by a 
3-finger triple tap


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver learning app

Hello Richard,

I went in gesture section and 4 fingers test doesn't works when it's time to 
try)
It doesn't say what it suppose to say.
Lyne


Le 21 sept. 2024 à 10:16, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
 a écrit :

What function are you trying to accomplish with a four finger touch?


Richard, USA
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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver learning app

Great! But the 4 fingers touch doesn't works for me.
Lyne



Le 21 sept. 2024 à 09:10, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> a écrit :

Yes, and it is free, but if the person needing this is on iOS 18, I strongly 
recommend using the built-in VoiceOver Tutorial in the VoiceOver settings.
VOStarter was updated last in 2023.

Just my 2¢ worth.


Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mama 
Peach
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver learning app

Thank you, that’s the one.

On Sep 19, 2024, at 6:45 PM, William James 
mailto:wiljame...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Vo Starter was updated last year and is currently on 401  Here's so link:




VO Starter
VoiceOver Training for 
iOS

Sent from my iPhone Pro Max




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mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 11:27 AM
Subject: VoiceOver learning app


I am aware that the iPhone has a voiceover practice section, but they’re
used to be an app that would allow you to learn voiceover, but I’m unable to
find that app anymore. Does anybody know where I can find it or what it’s
called?

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RE: VoiceOver learning app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can practice them in Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover and practice does 
help. If a 3-finger double or triple tap is difficult for you this most likely 
means you are not really tapping with 3 fingers at the same time.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver learning app

I am having trouble with a three finger double tap that one doesn’t seem to 
work for me. Sometimes when these gestures don’t quite work. Well, I have to 
work incredibly hard to get them to work. I go to the Bluetooth keyboard. I 
always keep one nearby with my phone. And I’m trying to work out a way to carry 
one with me if I’m away from home for long periods of time. I think I almost 
haven’t worked out. it is a hassle to have to carry a Bluetooth keyboard with 
you, but if you need it you need it and that’s the way it just Hass to be. And 
I can’t do it any other way. And if everyone wants to say I’m cheating they can 
just say it all day long. I’m just doing what I really have to do. Whether 
anyone likes it or not.
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 21, 2024, at 9:00 AM, Lyne  wrote:
Great! But the 4 fingers touch doesn't works for me.
Lyne


Le 21 sept. 2024 à 09:10, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
 a écrit :

Yes, and it is free, but if the person needing this is on iOS 18, I strongly 
recommend using the built-in VoiceOver Tutorial in the VoiceOver settings.
VOStarter was updated last in 2023.

Just my 2¢ worth.


Richard, USA
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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
Peach
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver learning app

Thank you, that’s the one.

On Sep 19, 2024, at 6:45 PM, William James 
mailto:wiljame...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Vo Starter was updated last year and is currently on 401  Here's so link:



VO Starter
VoiceOver Training for 
iOS

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On Sep 19, 2024, at 6:36 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
did you try applevis?
- Original Message -
From: "Mama Peach" mailto:mamapeach...@gmail.com>>
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 11:27 AM
Subject: VoiceOver learning app


I am aware that the iPhone has a voiceover practice section, but they’re
used to be an app that would allow you to learn voiceover, but I’m unable to
find that app anymore. Does anybody know where I can find it or what it’s
called?

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RE: What will Lidar do for me.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, any Pro or Pro Max phone since the iPhone 12 has LiDAR.
You can’t “activate” it, you can take advantage of it by using apps which use 
it such as Seeing AI as well as the iPhone’s built-in Magnify feature. If you 
open it, tap on “Detection Mode” near the bottom of the screen, you then get 
the following explanation:

Detection mode, heading
Point and speak, to use point and speak, point to a specific sectionn of text 
or move your pointer finger around in the camera view. Your iPhone will detect 
the text near  your finger and read this text to you.
Text, use your iPhones camera to hear and read the text detected nearby
People, your iPhone can let you know when it detects people nearby with sound, 
speech and haptic feedback. Feedback will be more frequent if the person is 
closer to you.
Doors, your iPhone can let you know when it detects doors nearby with sound, 
speech and haptic feedback. Feedback will be more frequent if the door is 
closer to you.
Furniture, your iPhone can let you know when it detects furniture nearby with 
sound, speech and haptic feedback. Feedback will be more frequent if the 
furniture is closer to you.
Scenes, scenes provide a live description of the scenes detected in the camera 
view.
All detection modes, double tap the screen with 2 fingers to pause or resume 
detection.
Continue, button




From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What will Lidar do for me.

Hi, Richard. I have 15 pro, does that mean I already have lider? If yes, how 
can I activate it, please?
Thanks!
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 22, 2024, at 12:18 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:

Also, it will tell you exactly how many feet you are away from and air tag. As 
you move closer the feet report changes as you get closer so you can find the 
air tag.
Mr. Ed

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

HI LIDAR is built-in to the pro models since the 12 pro.
The letters stand for light detection and ranging.
Some apps are using it for object and people detection.  It helps with 
photographs.  The iPhone Magnifier app can use it to detect people, doors, and 
text.
Seeing AI uses it in the World Channel on phones that have it for detection of 
some things.
There is, or was, a free app called Super LIDAR that I have not tried for a 
couple of years, so maybe it has been updated to do more.

I’ll paste a link to a Wikipedia article that will tell you far more than you 
want or need to know,.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidar

It may be that app developers will begin taking more advantage of that 
technology, but no one knows for sure.

Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kenny 
Nead
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 6:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

So how do you get started with LIDAR? Is it an app? Or is it on another app? 
And how do you  start learning what all things that you can do with it?
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

LIDAR, which you spelled correctly, has one feature that is clearly intended to 
help visually impaired and it will take the app developers to really leverage 
it in more ways.  Some are trying to, like Seeing AI’s World channel that tries 
to identify objects and tell you how far away they are, etc.
Here is a list I grabbed from Copilot, number 3 is Door Detection that is 
really useful in unfamiliar buildings.


  1.  Sharper Photos: LiDAR helps the camera capture sharper photos, especially 
in low-light conditions. So, your nighttime shots will look even better! 🌙📸

2. Augmented Reality (AR): LiDAR enables AR experiences by blending the real 
world with virtual elements. Here are a few cool applications:
- Virtual Tape Measure: Imagine measuring furniture or room dimensions by just 
pointing your phone—LiDAR makes it possible.
- 3D Model Scanning: You can scan objects and create 3D models right from your 
phone.
- AR Gaming: LiDAR enhances AR games, immersing you in interactive virtual 
worlds. 🎮🌟

3. Door Detection: Exclusive to the iPhone 16 Pro, LiDAR maps and identifies 
doors. It provides text descriptions of doors, including distance, open/closed 
status, swing direction, and more. Handy, right?


  1.  Copilot said that was exclusive to the 16 pro, that is not correct, that 
works with any pro model that has LIDAR.

I’m hoping that more things will be added to some of the accessibility apps in 
iOS 18.1

RE: What will Lidar do for me.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Determination of distance is its primary function, the LiDAR sensor emits a 
laser beam which is reflected by whatever it hits and the phoen then calculates 
how far away the object is based on how long it took for the beam to reach the 
object and reflect back.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

Also, it will tell you exactly how many feet you are away from and air tag. As 
you move closer the feet report changes as you get closer so you can find the 
air tag.
Mr. Ed

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

HI LIDAR is built-in to the pro models since the 12 pro.
The letters stand for light detection and ranging.
Some apps are using it for object and people detection.  It helps with 
photographs.  The iPhone Magnifier app can use it to detect people, doors, and 
text.
Seeing AI uses it in the World Channel on phones that have it for detection of 
some things.
There is, or was, a free app called Super LIDAR that I have not tried for a 
couple of years, so maybe it has been updated to do more.

I’ll paste a link to a Wikipedia article that will tell you far more than you 
want or need to know,.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidar

It may be that app developers will begin taking more advantage of that 
technology, but no one knows for sure.

Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kenny 
Nead
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 6:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

So how do you get started with LIDAR? Is it an app? Or is it on another app? 
And how do you  start learning what all things that you can do with it?
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

LIDAR, which you spelled correctly, has one feature that is clearly intended to 
help visually impaired and it will take the app developers to really leverage 
it in more ways.  Some are trying to, like Seeing AI’s World channel that tries 
to identify objects and tell you how far away they are, etc.
Here is a list I grabbed from Copilot, number 3 is Door Detection that is 
really useful in unfamiliar buildings.


  1.  Sharper Photos: LiDAR helps the camera capture sharper photos, especially 
in low-light conditions. So, your nighttime shots will look even better! 🌙📸

2. Augmented Reality (AR): LiDAR enables AR experiences by blending the real 
world with virtual elements. Here are a few cool applications:
- Virtual Tape Measure: Imagine measuring furniture or room dimensions by just 
pointing your phone—LiDAR makes it possible.
- 3D Model Scanning: You can scan objects and create 3D models right from your 
phone.
- AR Gaming: LiDAR enhances AR games, immersing you in interactive virtual 
worlds. 🎮🌟

3. Door Detection: Exclusive to the iPhone 16 Pro, LiDAR maps and identifies 
doors. It provides text descriptions of doors, including distance, open/closed 
status, swing direction, and more. Handy, right?


  *   Copilot said that was exclusive to the 16 pro, that is not correct, that 
works with any pro model that has LIDAR.

I’m hoping that more things will be added to some of the accessibility apps in 
iOS 18.1, but LIDAR itself is no reason yet to buy a particular phone.
Keep checking in a few months when developers have time to work with the new 
iOS features.

Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
k...@axistech.net
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What will Lidar do for me.

I’m one who only upgrades my phone when I can’t do things I want to do. For 
this reason last March my wife and I turned in our iPhone 6S phones for iPhone 
15S. Over recent months I have used access apps like Seeing AI BeMyAI etc. I 
have heard that accessibility apps for the blind will be greatly enhanced or 
only work if the phone has Lidar. I know that’s probably not the correct 
spelling. Anyway, when I got my 15S last March I thought the guy at the AT&T 
store told me it had Lidar. I have since discovered that it doesn’t. My 
question is what will Lidar do for me that I can’t do without it? I am 
seriously thinking of upgrading to a 16 Pro in a few month

RE: What will Lidar do for me.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Richard,some of these LiDAR features are very cool, but sadly things like the 
virtual tape measure are impossible for a blind person to use or at least to do 
so with any accuracy. Also, keep in mind that you don’t need an iPhone 16 Pro 
for these features, even an iPhone 12 Pro or 13 Pro can do all these things and 
the only differentiation would be if there are AI features which also rely on 
the LiDAR sensor, then those I assume would be specific to the iPhone 15 Pro or 
16 Pro.
I just last night asked Jonathan if he had already received his iPhone 16 Pro 
and I believe he has, here is his reply to my question about LiDAR and iPhone 
16 Pro in general:

Furniture has been added to the Lidar functions, but you can get that in 
earlier models, it’s not iPhone 16 specific.
I am also very disappointed in that despite claims of a better microphone 
system in the 16 pro, I honestly hear no difference. The speakers are a little 
better though, and we’ll have to see what difference the faster chip makes with 
AI. Battery life is a big win.

So as others already said, battery life is apparently really good although when 
he says “it’s a big win” I assume he is comparing it to his previous phone 
which I believe was an iPhone 15 Pro. Of course battery life is always a big 
upgrade if you had a phone for 2 or 3 or even more years. If I bought an iPhone 
15 Pro now it would also have much better battery than my 2-year old iPhone 13 
Pro.

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 9:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

LIDAR, which you spelled correctly, has one feature that is clearly intended to 
help visually impaired and it will take the app developers to really leverage 
it in more ways.  Some are trying to, like Seeing AI’s World channel that tries 
to identify objects and tell you how far away they are, etc.
Here is a list I grabbed from Copilot, number 3 is Door Detection that is 
really useful in unfamiliar buildings.


  1.  Sharper Photos: LiDAR helps the camera capture sharper photos, especially 
in low-light conditions. So, your nighttime shots will look even better! 🌙📸

2. Augmented Reality (AR): LiDAR enables AR experiences by blending the real 
world with virtual elements. Here are a few cool applications:
- Virtual Tape Measure: Imagine measuring furniture or room dimensions by just 
pointing your phone—LiDAR makes it possible.
- 3D Model Scanning: You can scan objects and create 3D models right from your 
phone.
- AR Gaming: LiDAR enhances AR games, immersing you in interactive virtual 
worlds. 🎮🌟

3. Door Detection: Exclusive to the iPhone 16 Pro, LiDAR maps and identifies 
doors. It provides text descriptions of doors, including distance, open/closed 
status, swing direction, and more. Handy, right?


  *   Copilot said that was exclusive to the 16 pro, that is not correct, that 
works with any pro model that has LIDAR.

I’m hoping that more things will be added to some of the accessibility apps in 
iOS 18.1, but LIDAR itself is no reason yet to buy a particular phone.
Keep checking in a few months when developers have time to work with the new 
iOS features.

Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
k...@axistech.net
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What will Lidar do for me.

I’m one who only upgrades my phone when I can’t do things I want to do. For 
this reason last March my wife and I turned in our iPhone 6S phones for iPhone 
15S. Over recent months I have used access apps like Seeing AI BeMyAI etc. I 
have heard that accessibility apps for the blind will be greatly enhanced or 
only work if the phone has Lidar. I know that’s probably not the correct 
spelling. Anyway, when I got my 15S last March I thought the guy at the AT&T 
store told me it had Lidar. I have since discovered that it doesn’t. My 
question is what will Lidar do for me that I can’t do without it? I am 
seriously thinking of upgrading to a 16 Pro in a few months if Lidar is really 
that important. Can someone give me a description of what I would get if I had 
Lidar? Thanks.

Karl



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RE: Pro or not pro?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You will never notice the difference in processor performance, maybe battery is 
 a little better, but whether it's enough for a $200 difference is up to you. 
Lastly, there is LiDAR, if you use things like door detection, people detection 
and, from what I hear a new item, furniture detection, then of course the Pro 
is the way to go. If I weren't using that I'd most certainly buy a regular 
iPhone 16.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 8:50 PM
To: VIPhone via 
Subject: Pro or not pro?

I have absolutely loved this iPhone XR. No devices perfect, and this one has 
its little issues from time to time, but it’s been an absolutely great phone, 
perfect size etc. After six years, I’m still using the original battery which 
is down down into the 80% tiles somewhere. It’s time to upgrade, although I’m 
not turning this in, because I won’t get anything for it. And I can still use 
it for things like playing books are barred books etc. So now the question 
becomes: pro or not pro? I’m totally not interested in massive screens, which 
means the promax and the plus are not for me. I expect I will go to a phone 
store and check out the 16 and the 16 pro, but it’s really all about whether 
it’s worth it to get the extra battery power The somewhat better chip 
performance although will that really help me as a blind person? And the better 
battery. I’m more interested in the contrast between the 16 and the 16 Pro. 
$200 a better chip and a better battery. But how much better? Anyway, for 
anybody who has already purchased one of the new devices, what do you think?  I 
will never be sold on a promax, because it’s just too big. I have an iPad mini, 
and I don’t need another one. Smile.
Mary

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RE: iOS 18 Brings Much Needed Features to Journal App, 9 to 5 Mac

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don’t recall that there was a sjejarch function or the insights thing where 
you see how nany days you have Journal entries for, how many words and all that.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 18 Brings Much Needed Features to Journal App, 9 to 5 Mac

I was excited when I saw this email in my inbox, but when I read it, I didn’t 
see anything that wasn’t already in the Journal app before I upgraded to IOS 18.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 7:38 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: iOS 18 Brings Much Needed Features to Journal App, 9 to 5 Mac

9 to 5 Mac - Thursday, September 19, 2024

Last year, Apple introduced its brand new Journal App alongside its iOS 17.2 
update. It was a very basic app with one real function: inputting journal 
entries in chronological order. While customers welcomed the new free app, many 
pretty basic features were missing. There was no search functionality, no 
password protection, and no additional insights that could be seen. Just one 
continuous feed for your journal entries. But, it looks as though Apple 
listened to our feedback and added a few new features to the iOS 18 version of 
the Journal App. Here are all the changes you can use today!

Be sure to check out our hands-on video below to see all these changes in 
action.
1.
Search
This was the one feature Apple omitted from their initial Journal App release 
that annoyed me a bit. I know people who journal multiple times a day. So if 
you had 100s of journal entries, there was no way to quickly look up one that 
you wrote in the past. You would have to endlessly scroll through your feed 
attempting to find your three-month-old entry. This was a big turn-off for many 
digital journalers. One of the best parts of journaling is being able to go 
back later and reflect on past entries. The fact that there was no search 
function really made that tough to do.
So the first thing Apple did was add a search function that persists on the top 
right corner. You can search based on media type, text that was written, dates, 
activities and pretty much anything that has something to do with a post. This 
makes management and navigation of the entire app much better.

2.
Insights
The next feature Apple added was the insights feature. This is my absolute 
favorite new feature. This essentially gamifies the journal entry process but 
giving you all the data you want to know about your journaling. You can see:
• Number of entries
• Words written
• Daily and weekly streaks
• Calendar view
• Visited locations
• Media types journaled
Apple really doubled down on this because the very first thing you see when you 
open the app is an info bar at the top that gives you some insights into your 
journaling at a glance. They also added a much more robust page view of your 
insights that gives you all the metrics listed above. Not only that, but they 
also allow you to expand on each one of the insight cards to get an even better 
look at each statistic. All in all, a very welcome update to the Journal App.

3.
Locking Journal App
iOS 18 gave users the ability to hide and password-protect individual apps. Be 
sure to watch our walkthroughs here to see how that is done. But on top of this 
new feature, Apple gave us the ability to also lock the Journal app. The 
process is very simple:
• Tap on the 3 dots on top right hand corner
• Tap ‘Lock Journal’
• Input passcode
• Turn it on
So now, every time you or someone tries to access your journal entries, it is 
password protected.

4.
Other quality updates
Apple also included some other quality-of-life updates that many people will 
enjoy. Apple added a better notification management option in the settings 
menu. You can now set up notifications to remind you to journal at any time. 
You can set up notifications based on time and day of the week. Then, to 
coincide with the new Streak feature, you can get notification reminders to 
continue your Journaling streak!
There is also a new section to manage the type of health access the Journal App 
has. The main focus of journaling is improving mental well-being, so Apple now 
allows the journal app to sync with your health app. It primarily focuses on 
the Mindfulness aspect of the health app. So after each journal entry, you can 
input how you are feeling, and it will be recorded in the Journal app as well 
as the Health app.
Lastly, there will also be some Apple Intelligence-related updates to the 
Journal app that will come with iOS 18.1. But we will bring that up when it is 
released to the public

Final thoughts
I am very content with these new updates. I personally believe this should all 
have been included in the first iteration of the Journal App, bu

RE: does the new ducking work on IOS 18?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Are you playing any music or an audio book while you are doing this? Audio 
ducking does nothing with respect to Voiceover unless something else is playing.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: does the new ducking work on IOS 18?

Hi All,
I have turned the rotor to ducking in the rotor and turned my volume up and 
down but I can’t tell that ducking does anything. I tried all the ducking 
choices and move the volume all the way up to 199 and I could not hear any 
different. Can you tell me how this ducking is  supposed to work?
Mr. Ed

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RE: ring doorbell

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I still find that a little bit hit and miss, it’s annoying that after so many 
years Ring is not paying more attention to accessibility.
For example, if I open my Ring Doorbell or my other camera, Voiceover speech 
goes to the earpiece like in a phone call unless I use a headset.
Also, while I haven’t answered somebody actually ringing the doorbell for quite 
some time, the last time I did so from the notification and I am pretty sure I 
still have to tap the microphone button before I could actually speak with 
them. Of course if Voiceover disappears to the earpiece there is no way you can 
hear it and do anything if you are even in a slightly noisy environment. 
Answering a doorbell ring should be no different or more difficult than 
answering a phone call, you get a notification, you tap on it and you should be 
able to talk without any further intervention.





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Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2024 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ring doorbell

You don't have to go to your echo app. The ring doorbell has its own app. When 
someone comes to the door you can access the doorbell directly in the ring 
doorbell app and talk to the person that way.
JODY


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On Sep 15, 2024, at 7:10 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
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Since it links to your Echo device you can at least speak to your visitor if
you can't make it to the door right away to  sign for your delivery

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2024 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: ring doorbell


Maybe I'm missing something here, but what use is a ring doorbell if
you're totally blind?
Martin

Robert Doc Wright recently said:-


This is the one I purchased from Amazon. You will need some sighted hehlp
initially but the majority you can do yourself.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08N5NQ869/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2024 10:57 AM
Subject: ring doorbell


Hi


having had a couple of unwanted callers at my door thought it was maybe
time I got the ring doorbell. Is there just one ring doorbell or
several to choose from. If there are several which one do people think
would be best for someone with no sight and far from very techy.


Thanks

Linda


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RE: the iPhone se

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There is no big rush since the new iPhone SE will not be released until the 
Spring. In any case, I'd take an iPhone SE 4th Gen with Face Id over a 3rd Gen 
with Touch Id any day because the new iPhone will be multiple generations more 
advanced with the processor and support Apple Intelligence. The 3rd Generation 
iPhone has the same processor as an iPhone 13 and while it will still get iOS 
updates for several more years, Touch Id is a thing of the past so whether you 
get Face Id now or in a few years, it really doesn't matter, at least that is 
my opinion. I actually wouldn't go back to Touch Id if you gave me a free phone 
and $100 cash.


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Subject: Re: the iPhone se

yes, it can
Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> Thanks for this.  with the three can you do the latest updates?
> 
> 
> Lynda and Wailea
> 
>> On 9/20/2024 7:47 AM, Janet Wright wrote:
>> you better get the iPhone SE three quick because sooner or later they 
>> will be replaced with the iPhone SE four which won’t have a home 
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>>> 
>>> I am thinking of getting an IPhone se, which one do users recomend?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lynda and Wailea
>>> 
 On 9/20/2024 5:24 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 correcting junk folder
 
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 Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 1:59 AM
 Subject: moving junk mail to not junk mail in the mail app
 
 
 does anyone know how to move junk mail to be non-junk mail in the 
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RE: Thoughts and Upgrades

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Jim,

That’s certainly a valid reason especially if between the trade-in and all that 
an iPhone 16 Pro wasn’t a big money expenditure.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
portillo@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts and Upgrades

Hi there, Sieghard,
You ask a good question.
I wasn’t going to upgrade at all. The problem has been that for a long time 
now, I’ve been having some intermittent issues with my current phone. It would 
do things like freeze up during both video and audio calls, the speaker would 
sound weird at times, and I recently had some calls end without any reason, 
while I was sitting down somewhere using Wi-Fi.
Using AIRA a lot when traveling, I didn’t like the whole freezing aspect. And, 
I noticed more of these issues after I moved to a new city. At first, I thought 
it was my phone carrier, so I switched. I also had it tested for diagnostics, 
and nothing was found wrong with the phone. But, as the past three weeks, I 
noticed more frequent issues with my phone calls. The problem was that it 
wouldn’t happen all the time.
So, I was going to see what I could do to have that phone replaced. At the same 
time, I had gotten a pretty handsome rebate from my new phone carrier, which 
was honestly enough to use with a trade-in for a new phone. I’m not paying very 
much for this phone upgrade.
I am really hoping that my phone issues go away, because I’ve done so many 
things with this phone over this past year.
Anyway, upgrading wasn’t in my plans yet until things just kind of went that 
direction.
Jim


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Thoughts and Upgrades

Jim,

You use the phone to phone transfer feature which will transfer all your 
settings and such over from your iPhhone 15 Pro to your new phone and then, as 
you said, you also restore your iCloud backup. I haven’t doen this in a while, 
can’t remember if when you do the quick transfer which you are asked for when 
you start to set up your new phone also initiates the iCloud backup or if you 
have to select this option manually.
If you have old apps on your phone which you don’t think you want on your new 
phone I would simply delete them first before doing the transfer; setting up a 
phone from scratch is hours of work depending on how much content you have, how 
many apps y ou have to sign in to and all that and unless you have a serious 
issue with your phone I don’t recommend it and I don’t think it is necessary.

Also, just out of curiosity, why did you upgrade from a 15 Pro to a 16 Pro? You 
already had a phone which supports Apple Intelligence and which had an action 
button and also you already had a USB-C port.
The only thing you gain with a 16 Pro is the new camera button and a slightly 
faster processor, but I doubt you will notice that a lot in day-to-day use.
OK, so there are some other differences such as probavbly a little better 
battery life and the iPhone 16 Pro supports Wi-Fi 7 which I doubt you have and 
probably won’t have for a few more years, a few camera improvements but that’s 
mostly it. As I said, I’m just curious. I will most likely get an iPhone 16 Pro 
as well this year, but then I only have an iPhone 13 Pro now and I do look 
forward to Apple Intelligence features, I very much prefer to have a phone with 
USB-C cable so I can finally get rid of all my Lightning cables and I imagine 
that I would make use of the action button and definitely of the camera button 
since I actually take pictures quite a lot. But I still haven’t totally decided 
if I might not safe myself a few hundred Dollars and just get a regular iPhhone 
16 which has just about everything the iPhhone 16 Pro has except for the 
difference between 3x and 5x optical zoom, the 120 Herts Promotion display 
which for a blind person probably isn’t a big deal and the one extra core in 
the processor which again you probably never notice unless you do a lot of 
gaming or heavy-duty video editing etc. The only reason why I would get a Pro 
phone is the LiDAR sensor especially if as I heard it might have expanded 
capabilities now, but I’m still waiting for Jonathan or somebody do explain 
this further.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
portillo@gmail.com<mailto:portillo@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Thoughts and Upgrades

Good morning!
I have a couple questions for you as I upgrade to a new phone today. This time 
though, I’m getting it in the mail, whereas in the past, I’ve always gotten it 
at the store. While I know the answers are 

RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, you can add Airplane mode, cellular data and personal hotspot, but not 
Bluetooth or Wi-Fi.
There is a Shortcuts heading in the list of available items which has 2 items, 
" Shortcut" and "Open app", I think maybe it might be possible to make a 
shortcut to toggle Bluetooth, but can't say for sure.
Of course you can just swipe down from the top to open Control Center and then 
toggle Bluetooth there or ask Siri to turn it off or on.
I wrote out the entire list of available actions/apps below, whenever it says 
"Heading" it means if you turn the rotor to heading you can navigate to any of 
these headings and then swipe right to the individual items. Keep in mind that 
"Just Press Record" will of course only be there if you have that app and maybe 
you have an app which supports this which is in your list and which I don't 
have.

Heading: Capture
Camera, control
Scan code, control

Heading: Clock
Alarm, control
Timer, control

Heading: Stopwatch, control

Heading: Connectivity
Airplane mode, control
Cellular data, control
Personal hotspot, control

Heading: Display and Brightness
Dark mode, control

Heading: Home
Home, control

Heading: Just Press Record
Toggle recording, control

Heading: Remote
Remote, control

Heading: Shortcuts
Shortcut, control
Open app, control

Heading: Sounds
Recognize music, control

Heading: Translate
Translate, control

Heading: Utilities
Flashlight, control
Calculator, control
Scan code, control
Magnifier, control

Heading: Voice Memos
Voice memo, control

Heading: Wallet
Wallet, control
Tap to cash, control

Heading: Watch
Ping my watch, control

Heading: Accessibility
Assistive access, control
Live speech, control

Heading: Hearing Accessibility
Music haptics, control
Left right stereo balance, control
Live captions, control

Heading: Motor Accessibility
Switch control, control
Voice control, control
Full keyboard access, control
Assistive touch, control
Apple Watch mirroring, control
Control nearby devices, control
Eye tracking, control

Heading: Vision Accessibility
Classic invert, control
Color filters, control
Live recognition, control
Increase contrast, control
Reduce motion, control
Reduce transparency, control
Reduce white point, control
Smart invert, control
Voiceover, control
Zoom, control
Speak screen, control
Dim flashing lights, control
Hover text, control
Hover typing, control


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

Question, if I can manage to alter my Lock Screen, could I put Bluetooth on it? 
My husband is forever using my phone, and I have to go in and turn off 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lyne
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

It seems to be easier by paper wall 

Lyne


Le 20 sept. 2024 à 09:49, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
 a écrit :





I took the message that Sieghard had written and formatted it slightly 
and am pasting it here.


    Adding/removing items on the lock screen


By Sieghard Weitzel

 

1. My phone was locked, I pressed the side button to wake it up. 

2. I did a double tap and hold on the time 

3. A menu came up with the following:

Link a focus, 

Collections, 

wall paper 1 of 2, adjustable 

Customize 

Add mew lock screen wall paper.

 

If you tap on "customize", you then get the following:

Customize wall paper, heading

Customize lock screen wall paper, button 

Customize home screen wall paper, button 

 

Now you double tap on "Customize lock screen wall paper" and you get:

Cancel at the top left of the screen

Done at the top right of the screen

Calendar, 

date, 

top widget, button - this is your date display which is there by 
default 

Clock widget, button - this is the time which is there by default 

Depth effect, button - I think this lets you blur the background or 
something like that. 

Appearance, button - here you can choose automatic, light or dark 

Next are the Flashlight and Camera icons and there is a remove button 
for each If you remove one you then get an Add button, it's called something 
slightly different, but anyways you tap it and you can choose from a bunch of 
things, you can add Voice Memos, you can even add Voiceover, speak screen, 
calculator. 

In my case I have the Just Press Record app and you can add a 
start/stop recording button etc.

You can of course remove both items and then

RE: Thoughts and Upgrades

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Jim,

You use the phone to phone transfer feature which will transfer all your 
settings and such over from your iPhhone 15 Pro to your new phone and then, as 
you said, you also restore your iCloud backup. I haven’t doen this in a while, 
can’t remember if when you do the quick transfer which you are asked for when 
you start to set up your new phone also initiates the iCloud backup or if you 
have to select this option manually.
If you have old apps on your phone which you don’t think you want on your new 
phone I would simply delete them first before doing the transfer; setting up a 
phone from scratch is hours of work depending on how much content you have, how 
many apps y ou have to sign in to and all that and unless you have a serious 
issue with your phone I don’t recommend it and I don’t think it is necessary.

Also, just out of curiosity, why did you upgrade from a 15 Pro to a 16 Pro? You 
already had a phone which supports Apple Intelligence and which had an action 
button and also you already had a USB-C port.
The only thing you gain with a 16 Pro is the new camera button and a slightly 
faster processor, but I doubt you will notice that a lot in day-to-day use.
OK, so there are some other differences such as probavbly a little better 
battery life and the iPhone 16 Pro supports Wi-Fi 7 which I doubt you have and 
probably won’t have for a few more years, a few camera improvements but that’s 
mostly it. As I said, I’m just curious. I will most likely get an iPhone 16 Pro 
as well this year, but then I only have an iPhone 13 Pro now and I do look 
forward to Apple Intelligence features, I very much prefer to have a phone with 
USB-C cable so I can finally get rid of all my Lightning cables and I imagine 
that I would make use of the action button and definitely of the camera button 
since I actually take pictures quite a lot. But I still haven’t totally decided 
if I might not safe myself a few hundred Dollars and just get a regular iPhhone 
16 which has just about everything the iPhhone 16 Pro has except for the 
difference between 3x and 5x optical zoom, the 120 Herts Promotion display 
which for a blind person probably isn’t a big deal and the one extra core in 
the processor which again you probably never notice unless you do a lot of 
gaming or heavy-duty video editing etc. The only reason why I would get a Pro 
phone is the LiDAR sensor especially if as I heard it might have expanded 
capabilities now, but I’m still waiting for Jonathan or somebody do explain 
this further.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
portillo@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Thoughts and Upgrades

Good morning!
I have a couple questions for you as I upgrade to a new phone today. This time 
though, I’m getting it in the mail, whereas in the past, I’ve always gotten it 
at the store. While I know the answers are going to be personal choice, I am 
curious as to what some of you have done or experienced.
First, how easy is it to transfer from one phone to a new one? I’ve always done 
it at the store. How easy is the phone syncing, and how flawless is the 
transition?
Also, in the past, I’ve always just done a restore from the cloud, which brings 
everything to the new phone. I began wondering, with the new IOS and future 
Apple Intelligence, if it would be better to start from scratch and then 
download the things I want.
I currently have several apps and things on my phone that either are old or 
that I don’t use. But, I have several folders as well.
I just wonder what the advantages are of one over the other.
Finally, I’m trying to remember. I’ll have to reconnect or re-pair all 
Bluetooth devices, correct? Those settings don’t transfer, right?
I’m looking forward to using this new iPhone 16 pro!
Jim


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RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks, Richard, here a little more information, I had already added a widget 
below my time and date which are there by default and I left that out.

If you have added a widget it will be announced after the clock and date 
widgets and you can flick down to “Remove” if you want to remove it.
If you have not added anything, you will have an “Add Widget, button” below 
date and above the “Depth effect”.
I also just went ahead and deleted the Start/stop recording button from Just 
Press Record I had previously put in place of the Flashlight.
The button you are looking for if you want to add an app is called “Add quick 
action” and as I said, it only is available if you remove either Flashlight or 
Camera since you can only have two things there so when two apps are present 
the Add quick action is not therre because you can’t add more.
If it is there it will be right after the “Appearance” button.one of the appears


From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

I took the message that Sieghard had written and formatted it slightly and am 
pasting it here.
Adding/removing items on the lock screen
By Sieghard Weitzel


1. My phone was locked, I pressed the side button to wake it up.

2. I did a double tap and hold on the time

3. A menu came up with the following:

Link a focus,

Collections,

wall paper 1 of 2, adjustable

Customize

Add mew lock screen wall paper.



If you tap on "customize", you then get the following:

Customize wall paper, heading

Customize lock screen wall paper, button

Customize home screen wall paper, button



Now you double tap on "Customize lock screen wall paper" and you get:

Cancel at the top left of the screen

Done at the top right of the screen

Calendar,

date,

top widget, button - this is your date display which is there by default

Clock widget, button - this is the time which is there by default

Depth effect, button - I think this lets you blur the background or something 
like that.

Appearance, button - here you can choose automatic, light or dark

Next are the Flashlight and Camera icons and there is a remove button for each 
If you remove one you then get an Add button, it's called something slightly 
different, but anyways you tap it and you can choose from a bunch of things, 
you can add Voice Memos, you can even add Voiceover, speak screen, calculator.

In my case I have the Just Press Record app and you can add a start/stop 
recording button etc.
You can of course remove both items and then press done or whatever it is and 
not have anything on the bottom of the lock screen.


HTH,
Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: 'Anna Rita de Bonis' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 12:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

Hello,
Could you please explain in detail how to do it?
How to remove the flashlight or camera?
Thanks,
Anna Rita de Bonis - Inviato da iPhone

Il giorno 20 set 2024, alle ore 07:23, Shai 
mailto:shai...@gmail.com>> ha scritto:

Hello Sieghard,
Thank you for your email. I reviewed the message that you posted in regards to 
adding apps to the lock screen; however, my iPhone (an iPhone SE third 
generation) does not have the flashlight or camera on the lock screen not by my 
own doing but rather it never did.
How would I add apps to the lock screen in this case?
I am only able to see add widget and depth effect.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

You may want to review the thread as I have posted a message yesterday with 
exact step by step instructions.
Calendar and Clock are, by the way, not apps, they are widgets. The only apps 
on the lock screen are Flashlight and Camera and you first have to remove one 
or both before you can add another.
Maybe somebody can repost my message, unfortunately I was just having a really 
quick look at the messages this morning, but I have to go to work right away so 
I can’t do it now.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2024 10:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

Hello all,
I am attempting to add an app such as phone or messages to the lock screen.  On 
the lock screen currently, I have the calendar and clock. I researched this and 

RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What is “paper wall”?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 9:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

It seems to be easier by paper wall
Lyne


Le 20 sept. 2024 à 09:49, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> a écrit :

I took the message that Sieghard had written and formatted it slightly and am 
pasting it here.
Adding/removing items on the lock screen
By Sieghard Weitzel


1. My phone was locked, I pressed the side button to wake it up.

2. I did a double tap and hold on the time

3. A menu came up with the following:

Link a focus,

Collections,

wall paper 1 of 2, adjustable

Customize

Add mew lock screen wall paper.



If you tap on "customize", you then get the following:

Customize wall paper, heading

Customize lock screen wall paper, button

Customize home screen wall paper, button



Now you double tap on "Customize lock screen wall paper" and you get:

Cancel at the top left of the screen

Done at the top right of the screen

Calendar,

date,

top widget, button - this is your date display which is there by default

Clock widget, button - this is the time which is there by default

Depth effect, button - I think this lets you blur the background or something 
like that.

Appearance, button - here you can choose automatic, light or dark

Next are the Flashlight and Camera icons and there is a remove button for each 
If you remove one you then get an Add button, it's called something slightly 
different, but anyways you tap it and you can choose from a bunch of things, 
you can add Voice Memos, you can even add Voiceover, speak screen, calculator.

In my case I have the Just Press Record app and you can add a start/stop 
recording button etc.
You can of course remove both items and then press done or whatever it is and 
not have anything on the bottom of the lock screen.


HTH,
Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: 'Anna Rita de Bonis' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 12:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

Hello,
Could you please explain in detail how to do it?
How to remove the flashlight or camera?
Thanks,
Anna Rita de Bonis - Inviato da iPhone



Il giorno 20 set 2024, alle ore 07:23, Shai 
mailto:shai...@gmail.com>> ha scritto:

Hello Sieghard,
Thank you for your email. I reviewed the message that you posted in regards to 
adding apps to the lock screen; however, my iPhone (an iPhone SE third 
generation) does not have the flashlight or camera on the lock screen not by my 
own doing but rather it never did.
How would I add apps to the lock screen in this case?
I am only able to see add widget and depth effect.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

You may want to review the thread as I have posted a message yesterday with 
exact step by step instructions.
Calendar and Clock are, by the way, not apps, they are widgets. The only apps 
on the lock screen are Flashlight and Camera and you first have to remove one 
or both before you can add another.
Maybe somebody can repost my message, unfortunately I was just having a really 
quick look at the messages this morning, but I have to go to work right away so 
I can’t do it now.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2024 10:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

Hello all,
I am attempting to add an app such as phone or messages to the lock screen.  On 
the lock screen currently, I have the calendar and clock. I researched this and 
have read that to do this one would double tap and press on the lock screen and 
choose customize which I did; but all I am able to locate is adding widgets and 
I do not locate a means to add an app even in the widgets pane.
I have also looked in settings with the same result. Any suggestions?
Thank you in advance for any responses

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RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have no idea, I thought all iPhones had the Flashlight and Camera button at 
the bottom of the lock screen.
I have never owned an iPhone SE of any generation, but I know my iPhone 11 had 
it and now my iPhone 13 Pro has it. Whether it was on my iPhone 8 many years 
ago I can’t remember nor do I know when these buttons were added, e.g. in which 
version of iOS.
I think at this point maybe others who have an iPhone SE second or third 
generation can chime in and confirm that these buttons are not present on those 
phones.
And you could always call Apple Accessibility and see if they can help, I find 
the process as I described it fairly straight forward.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 10:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

Hello Sieghard,
Thank you for your email. I reviewed the message that you posted in regards to 
adding apps to the lock screen; however, my iPhone (an iPhone SE third 
generation) does not have the flashlight or camera on the lock screen not by my 
own doing but rather it never did.
How would I add apps to the lock screen in this case?
I am only able to see add widget and depth effect.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

You may want to review the thread as I have posted a message yesterday with 
exact step by step instructions.
Calendar and Clock are, by the way, not apps, they are widgets. The only apps 
on the lock screen are Flashlight and Camera and you first have to remove one 
or both before you can add another.
Maybe somebody can repost my message, unfortunately I was just having a really 
quick look at the messages this morning, but I have to go to work right away so 
I can’t do it now.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2024 10:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

Hello all,
I am attempting to add an app such as phone or messages to the lock screen.  On 
the lock screen currently, I have the calendar and clock. I researched this and 
have read that to do this one would double tap and press on the lock screen and 
choose customize which I did; but all I am able to locate is adding widgets and 
I do not locate a means to add an app even in the widgets pane.
I have also looked in settings with the same result. Any suggestions?
Thank you in advance for any responses

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RE: I'm returning the Airpods Pro 2 for several reasons

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Then why don’t they just wait until the item is received and inspected before 
crediting the original payment method. Amazon is stupid to process refunds 
before they even receive the item although I assume if the item was not 
received, they could simply charge the card again. More and more companies are 
starting to rethink these return strategies where people just order all sorts 
of stuff only to return it all or most of it. It’s no wonder if they take 
advantage of it, of course nobody or not many consider the environmental impact 
all this shipping back and forth has and of course then there is the fact that 
a good percentage of especially clothing which is returned ends up in our 
world’s garbage dumps.

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: I'm returning the Airpods Pro 2 for several reasons

In case anyone wants to know, I’m returning the Airpods Pro 2 for the following 
reasons.

  1.  I just cannot get used to having them in my ears.  I much prefer the 
Airpods Pro Max or Shokz Bone Conduction headphones.
  2.  2.  I couldn’t seem to really get the customization I wanted to stick.
  3.  3.  After going through some steps to somewhat mimick hearing aids prior 
to the full release of Apple’s feature, I decided I don’t need to wait for that.

I am going to forward an article that I used to do the customizations to get an 
idea of what it would be like to use them as hearing aids.  Note, the app 
mentioned in the article doesn’t work with VoiceOver for doing a hearing test.  
You have to be able to hold a button down as soon as you hear a sample tone, 
etc., and that just doesn’t work with VO…
The email with that article will be called How to use Airpods as hearing aids 
with screen shots.

If anyone else bought them through Amazon, and plan to return them for a 
refund, you will be prompted to have to talk with Amazon to confirm that you 
have forgotten them from your Apple ID and reset them to factory defaults.  
Then, they will arrange a UPS pickup for the next business day.
Aple and Amazon have had people sending back things like socks or toothbrushes 
instead of the Apple product they purchased, so now they do a pickup so the 
driver can confirm it is the correct product…

Later,
Richard, USA
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RE: Keeping a message from a thread?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is one way, another is that when  you read the thread you simply flick 
down when you have read the message you now want to delete and double tap on 
trash. This would be when the message is open.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Keeping a message from a thread?

Thank you very much, Richard.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2024, at 2:42 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Before opening a thread, flick down until you get to expand thread.  Double 
> tap.
> Now, you can deal with each message individually.
> So, delete the ones you no longer want and the others will remain.
> Then, you can collapse the thread by going back to the first one, assuming 
> you kept more than one message.
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> "INTROVERTS UNITE ...
> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mohammad Fazil
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 2:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Keeping a message from a thread?
> 
> 
> Thank you very much, Sieghard, for such an informative messages, I would keep 
> it starred. My question, however, was about the messages in an email thread. 
> How can I keep one or two messages from a thread of 10 messages? Thanks again.
> 
> 
> ent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2024, at 11:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I assume you are talking about text messages in the Messages app? If so, 
>> then yes, you can do this:
>> 1. Open the conversation by double tapping on the name 2. Go to the 
>> first message you want to delete and flick either up or down until you get 
>> to "More", if this doesn't seem to work make sure you turn the rotor so it's 
>> on "Actions"
>> 3. Once you get to "More", double tap and this will select the message you 
>> are on.
>> 4. You can now flick right through all the messages and each one you want to 
>> delete you double tap to selec, if you get to the one you want to keep, just 
>> flick again to skip it.
>> 5. When you selected all the messages check at the bottom of the screen and 
>> you should see "Delete" and "Forward".
>> 6. Double tap on Delete and you get the following confirmation prompt:
>> These messages will be deleted from all your devices.
>> Delete 5 messages, button
>> 
>> Comment:
>> 1. Of course the number depends on how many you selected, I just tried this 
>> to make sure it still works the same way and I happened to select 5 messages 
>> from one of my conversations. If you select 3 then it would say "Delete 3 
>> messages" and if you selected 26 it would say "Delete 26 messages".
>> 2. Unfortunately it seems that in iOS 18 Voiceover does not say if a message 
>> you double tapped on is selected or not. It's been a while since I deleted 
>> selected messages from a conversation, but it used to indicate "selected" 
>> for each message you double tapped on. I recommend that if your conversation 
>> contains a lot of messages that you maybe delete them in smaller batches 
>> like try first to delete 4 or 5, then another 5 and once you get comfortable 
>> with it you can delete more if you want.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mohammad Fazil
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2024 11:37 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Keeping a message from a thread?
>> 
>> Good morning, group!
>> Can I keep one message of a thread? I mean if I have 16 message in a thread 
>> and I want to keep message number five and delete the rest, can I do that? 
>> If yes, how can it be done, please? Thanks!
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Sonos update, 80.09.05

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The app and Voiceover accessibility has come a very long way since May, I just 
wish they would make use of the rotor for things like adding to the queue and 
maybe in some other areas. All in all I certainly don’t hate it any more.

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos update, 80.09.05

I've been trying to use the app, or rather, the app has been driving me up a 
wall, since I accidentally updated it a month or so after the initial release.
It is slowly getting better. I wish they would put my home library back to 
being a separate item, rather than under Apple Music. I have not found a good 
way to browse.
My biggest gripe I think is that when you open your home library and say select 
albums. It has them alphabetially, kind of, which is fine. It has the sections 
tab where you can jump by percentages, which should mean that when you get to 
80 or 90 percent, you should be beyond half way through the alphabet ... if you 
are lucky, you are at the letter c. which is totally frustrating.
So I just search for the album I wat, or the artist and withake a few deep 
breaths after probably swearing more than is necessary...



Richard, USA
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(sent from my iPhone 13 pro)



On Sep 19, 2024, at 8:49 AM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:

.

Are you using the app yet? I’ve been anxiously waiting to hear if they’ve 
improved the voice over experience before updating.

Chris Judge






From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: September 19, 2024 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sonos update, 80.09.05

Below is what the app store says about the update. Then I will point a couple 
things out.New app features. Bug fixes and improved performance.  
Improvements to setup flow Improved performance when browsing content in Home 
and in Browse Improved queue management including ability to delete, reorder 
and scroll Added ability to set appearance between light mode/dark mode/system 
default Continued improvements to user interface Added Trueplay support for 
iOS18

I have not tested everything, but note, if you havean Apple Music subscription, 
your home library will be in the Apple Music option.
If you are sliding your finger around the screen looking for the search button, 
for me, I never found it. But, when I found the "edit home" button and flicked 
right with one finger, there is the search button. It is about an inch or 2 
above the bottom of thescreen.
That iswhat I know at this point.
 t

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RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You may want to review the thread as I have posted a message yesterday with 
exact step by step instructions.
Calendar and Clock are, by the way, not apps, they are widgets. The only apps 
on the lock screen are Flashlight and Camera and you first have to remove one 
or both before you can add another.
Maybe somebody can repost my message, unfortunately I was just having a really 
quick look at the messages this morning, but I have to go to work right away so 
I can’t do it now.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2024 10:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

Hello all,
I am attempting to add an app such as phone or messages to the lock screen.  On 
the lock screen currently, I have the calendar and clock. I researched this and 
have read that to do this one would double tap and press on the lock screen and 
choose customize which I did; but all I am able to locate is adding widgets and 
I do not locate a means to add an app even in the widgets pane.
I have also looked in settings with the same result. Any suggestions?
Thank you in advance for any responses

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RE: Music being interrupted when locking or unlocking screen.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Have you rebooted your phone? This is not an issue I have seen even during the 
Beta cycle.


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Subject: Music being interrupted when locking or unlocking screen.

Hello, has anyone had the problem in IOS18 where music or any audio gets 
interrupted if you lock or unlock the screen? I find that this happens with or 
without Voiceover. I'm using a 12 pro max.
Thanks,
Matthew 

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RE: Keeping a message from a thread?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I assume you are talking about text messages in the Messages app? If so, then 
yes, you can do this:
1. Open the conversation by double tapping on the name
2. Go to the first message you want to delete and flick either up or down until 
you get to "More", if this doesn't seem to work make sure you turn the rotor so 
it's on "Actions"
3. Once you get to "More", double tap and this will select the message you are 
on.
4. You can now flick right through all the messages and each one you want to 
delete you double tap to selec, if you get to the one you want to keep, just 
flick again to skip it.
5. When you selected all the messages check at the bottom of the screen and you 
should see "Delete" and "Forward".
6. Double tap on Delete and you get the following confirmation prompt:
These messages will be deleted from all your devices.
Delete 5 messages, button

Comment:
1. Of course the number depends on how many you selected, I just tried this to 
make sure it still works the same way and I happened to select 5 messages from 
one of my conversations. If you select 3 then it would say "Delete 3 messages" 
and if you selected 26 it would say "Delete 26 messages".
2. Unfortunately it seems that in iOS 18 Voiceover does not say if a message 
you double tapped on is selected or not. It's been a while since I deleted 
selected messages from a conversation, but it used to indicate "selected" for 
each message you double tapped on. I recommend that if your conversation 
contains a lot of messages that you maybe delete them in smaller batches like 
try first to delete 4 or 5, then another 5 and once you get comfortable with it 
you can delete more if you want.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2024 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Keeping a message from a thread?

Good morning, group!
Can I keep one message of a thread? I mean if I have 16 message in a thread and 
I want to keep message number five and delete the rest, can I do that? If yes, 
how can it be done, please? Thanks!
Sent from my iPhone

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RE: bug in ios18 drag & drop for the doc

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Davy, good find, I can confirm this.
I usually have the Camera at the very right side of my dock. I moved it out 
using the rotor, edit > drag Camera and put it on my home screen. When I tried 
to move it back the same way and touched the Messages icon which is the third 
in my dock, all I had was Add to Drag Session or Cancel Drag, not drop before 
or drop after.
I had to use the old method of double tap and hold on the camera, then drag my 
finger down into the dock and drop it there.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2024 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: bug in ios18 drag & drop for the doc

Hi folks

It is possible to take an app out of the doc and put it elsewhere with the 
rotor, however, dragging an app on the screen to the doc, is nolonger possible.

You can do it with the double tab and hold but that for most users is difficult 
to be done, as a workaround.
I will report to Apple.

Regards
Davy
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RE: Voiceover not staying on phone in bluetooth speaker.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Try to select "Headset" instead of "Speaker"

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matthew 
Bullis
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 8:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover not staying on phone in bluetooth speaker.

Before I file this as a bug with the accessibility email, I thought I'd ask on 
this list if anyone else is experienceing that VO isn't staying on the phone 
when I pair to a speaker? It had done in the previous version, but now even 
after going into the more info box and reselecting speaker type, then turning 
VO off then on again, the audio for the music and VO is in the speaker and not 
separated as before Thanks, Matthew 

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RE: Voiceover not staying on phone in bluetooth speaker.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

In my experience if you set it to Speaker it does the exact opposite, Voiceover 
remains on the phone and only your other audio comes from the speaker.
Headset will send both Voiceover and your audio stream to the Bluetooth device 
(unless that has changed).


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 10:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover not staying on phone in bluetooth speaker.

I don't know if it's been suggested yet, but inside of Bluetooth settings for 
your particular speaker go to more info and set the device type as Bluetooth 
speaker. I have noticed that changing the mode to such setting makes voiceover 
come out through the Bluetooth speaker. You may have to turn off voiceover And 
on again after you change the setting for it to work
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 I have not used a bluetooth speaker yet with 18. Which speaker do you have?
They will need to know that.


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On Sep 17, 2024, at 8:07 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
Before I file this as a bug with the accessibility email, I thought I'd ask on 
this list if anyone else is experienceing that VO isn't staying on the phone 
when I pair to a speaker? It had done in the previous version, but now even 
after going into the more info box and reselecting speaker type, then turning 
VO off then on again, the audio for the music and VO is in the speaker and not 
separated as before
Thanks,
Matthew

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RE: filling in passwords from iCloud on Windows?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Do you have 2-factor authentication enabled for your Apple Id (which now is 
actually called Apple Account)? Here is an article which includes other links 
you may want to check out:
Set up iCloud Keychain and iCloud Passwords on all your devices - Apple Support 
(CA)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
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Subject: filling in passwords from iCloud on Windows?

I have iOS 18 with the passwords app.  I installed the iCloud passwords 
extension in Google Chrome on a Windows 11 computer and I set Control Shift p 
as a shortcut to activate the extension.  When I go into Chrome and activate 
the extension, it asks for a verification code.  I do not get this code on my 
iPhone or in email.  How do I get this code?
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RE: big problem with IOS 18.0 update on Iphone SE 2nd gen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think this may only now be possible with iOS 18 which also allows you to 
generate a TTS voice using your own voice.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kerry 
Macdonald
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2024 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: big problem with IOS 18.0 update on Iphone SE 2nd gen

I did not realize we were able to buy text to speech voices other than the ones 
Apple gives us. Do you know if there are any other apps available where we 
could buy voices such as Ivona or a cappella?

Kerry

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 17, 2024, at 2:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
CerePlay is an app which allows you to buy various text to speech voices. The 
reviews are mixed leaning towards the negative and I won't even give it a 
second thought because I am very happy with the selection of voices I have in 
iOS, between Eloquence, the Siri voices and the other ones offered I have no 
problems finding one I like.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: big problem with IOS 18.0 update on Iphone SE 2nd gen

What are CerePlay voices?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Goshawk On Horseback
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: big problem with IOS 18.0 update on Iphone SE 2nd gen

By any chance, are you trying to use any of the CerePlay voices?
I ask this, as I recently attempted to use one of these on my 13 pro, and the 
result was so bad, that I had a lot of trouble even switching back to my 
previous voice.

Simon, the March Merman.


   On 16 Sep 2024, at 21:08, Dan 
mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote:



   

   I updated and now my VO is producing loud static instead of the voice.  It 
is so severe that I had to have my wife look at it to see if she could change 
the voice.  that did nothing to fix it.




   I did power off and back on but this fixed it for about 30 seconds and it 
started the static again.




   I am now going to connect to my laptop and restore my phone back to IOS 17.7.




   Anyone else having this issue yet?




   Thanks.




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RE: Attackers Are Targeting iPhone 16 Buyers — Here’s How To Stay Safe

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Which seems to be happening to some degree each year a new iPhone is released.


From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2024 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Attackers Are Targeting iPhone 16 Buyers — Here’s How To Stay Safe

Link to article is at the end.

Attackers Are Targeting iPhone 16 Buyers — Here’s How To Stay Safe
Kate O'FlahertySep 11, 2024,
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Attackers are targeting iPhone 16 buyers using [+] convincing websites designed 
to mimic legitimate sources.AFP via Getty Images

The iPhone 16 launched during Apple’s 
“Glowtime”
 event on Monday, with the devices going on sale in stores on Sept. 20. But 
Apple fans need to be extra careful when pre-ordering the iPhone 16 

 — which is available starting Friday — because scammers are already targeting 
users with legit-looking websites offering discounts on the devices.

Following the launch of the iPhone 16, there’s been a surge of scams targeting 
users with fake pre-orders, early-adopter deals and fraudulent technical 
support, according to security researchers at Kaspersky.

Attackers are targeting iPhone 
16
 buyers using convincing websites designed to mimic legitimate sources. One 
scam involves offering the chance to pre-order the latest iPhone with a 40% 
discount.

After clicking through, iPhone buyers are asked for their billing and shipping 
information — and there’s even an option to pay via PayPal.

But once you’ve paid for your new iPhone, no device is delivered. At the same 
time, attackers steal your personal information, which can then be sold on the 
dark web, researchers warn.

Another scam offers iPhone technical support, to help you update your device. 
The website prompts you to sign in with your Apple ID, but then steals the 
details.

If someone steals your Apple ID, they “essentially hold the keys to your 
digital kingdom,” the Kaspersky researchers say. Fraudsters can access your 
personal details — such as your name and email address — and sell them on the 
criminal underground known as the dark web.

They can also infiltrate your iCloud account, make unauthorized purchases using 
your ID, view your account balance and take money from your Apple Wallet.

iPhone 16 Scams — What To Do

The new iPhone 16 was launched on September 9, with iOS 
18
 due to arrive on September 16. It’s an exciting time, with lots of new 
features
 to try out, but in the interim, it’s essential to be careful.

Criminals have “impeccable timing when it comes to the latest scams” — and the 
iPhone 16 launch is a big opportunity for them, says Jake Moore, global 
cybersecurity advisor at security outfit ESET. “It is vital that people do 
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RE: Lock screen apps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Check the post I just sent, it explains it.

-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lock screen apps

What apps are people adding to the lock screen?
I cannot manage to figure out how you get to the point of adding anything but 
wigits or wall paper.
I don't want Wigits getting in my way, at least not yet.

Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lock screen apps

I probably need to mess with this more myself, but how do you double tap and 
hold on the lock screen? Whenever I double tap and hold on the screen, it 
brings up the clock, fitness app, camera and so on. I've tried double tapping 
and holding on a blank part of the lock screen but it's still bringing up one 
of the apps on the lock screen.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 12:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lock screen apps

Yes, just switched out the Flashlight icon with one to toggle recording for the 
Just Press Record app.
It is fairly straight forward, you double tap and hold on the lock screen and 
then tap on "Customize", just explore from there. You have to first remove one 
of the two bottom icons, Flashlight or Camera, before you have the "Add Quick 
Action" button appear where you can choose a different one.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
Marzec
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lock screen apps

Has anyone checked how to change default shortcuts on the lock screen for 
example from torch and camera to something else?
Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Lock screen apps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I just tried this again and it works consistently:
1. My phone was locked, I pressed the side button to wake it up
2. I did a double tap and hold on the time
3. A menu came up with the following:
Link a focus
Collections, wall paper 1 of 2, adjustable
Customize
Add mew lock screen wall paper

If you tap on "customize", you then get the following:
Customize wall paper, heading
Customize lock screen wall paper, button
Customize home screen wall paper, button
Now you double tap on "Customize lock screen wall paper" and you get:
Cancel at the top left of the screen
Done at the top right of the screen
Calendar, date, top widget, button - this is your date display which is there 
by default
Clock widget, button - this is the time which is there by default
Depth effect, button - I think thi slets you blur the background or something 
like that
Appearance, button - here you can choose automatic, light or dark
Next are the Flashlight and Camera icons and there is a remove button for each
If you remove one you then get an Add button, it's called something slightly 
different, but anyways you tap it and you can choose from a bunch of things, 
you can add Voice Memos, you can even add Voiceover, speak screen, calculator, 
In my case I have the Just Press Record app and you can add a start/stop 
recording button etc.
You can of course remove both items and then press done or whatever it is and 
not have anything on the bottom of the lock screen.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jessica 
Barr
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lock screen apps

I haven't figured out how to add apps to the lock screen either, and the double 
tap and hold gesture on the lock screen won't allow me to remove the camera or 
flashlight from it.
Jessica

- Original Message -
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 06:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lock screen apps

What apps are people adding to the lock screen?
I cannot manage to figure out how you get to the point of adding anything but 
wigits or wall paper.
I don't want Wigits getting in my way, at least not yet.
Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: 
https://www.turner42.com -Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lock screen apps
I probably need to mess with this more myself, but how do you double tap and 
hold on the lock screen? Whenever I double tap and hold on the screen, it 
brings up the clock, fitness app, camera and so on. I've tried double tapping 
and holding on a blank part of the lock screen but it's still bringing up one 
of the apps on the lock screen.
--
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 12:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lock screen apps
Yes, just switched out the Flashlight icon with one to toggle recording for the 
Just Press Record app.
It is fairly straight forward, you double tap and hold on the lock screen and 
then tap on "Customize", just explore from there. You have to first remove one 
of the two bottom icons, Flashlight or Camera, before you have the "Add Quick 
Action" button appear where you can choose a different one.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
Marzec
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lock screen apps
Has anyone checked how to change default shortcuts on the lock screen for 
example from torch and camera to something else?
Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Lock screen apps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It can't be impossible because I am a completely blind Voiceover user and it 
works fine.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
Marzec
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lock screen apps

Yeah, but how to do it because what you described is it impossible How to click 
on lock screen Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Sep 2024, at 6:09 am, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, just switched out the Flashlight icon with one to toggle recording for 
> the Just Press Record app.
> It is fairly straight forward, you double tap and hold on the lock screen and 
> then tap on "Customize", just explore from there. You have to first remove 
> one of the two bottom icons, Flashlight or Camera, before you have the "Add 
> Quick Action" button appear where you can choose a different one.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 1:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Lock screen apps
> 
> Has anyone checked how to change default shortcuts on the lock screen for 
> example from torch and camera to something else?
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Lock screen apps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Maybe because you don't regularly use Flashlight and Camera, but maybe you 
would like Calculator and Voice Memos or any of the other options which are 
possible.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lock screen apps

I am not figuring why I would want to add anything to my locked screen. 

-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lock screen apps

What apps are people adding to the lock screen?
I cannot manage to figure out how you get to the point of adding anything but 
wigits or wall paper.
I don't want Wigits getting in my way, at least not yet.

Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lock screen apps

I probably need to mess with this more myself, but how do you double tap and 
hold on the lock screen? Whenever I double tap and hold on the screen, it 
brings up the clock, fitness app, camera and so on. I've tried double tapping 
and holding on a blank part of the lock screen but it's still bringing up one 
of the apps on the lock screen.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 12:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lock screen apps

Yes, just switched out the Flashlight icon with one to toggle recording for the 
Just Press Record app.
It is fairly straight forward, you double tap and hold on the lock screen and 
then tap on "Customize", just explore from there. You have to first remove one 
of the two bottom icons, Flashlight or Camera, before you have the "Add Quick 
Action" button appear where you can choose a different one.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
Marzec
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lock screen apps

Has anyone checked how to change default shortcuts on the lock screen for 
example from torch and camera to something else?
Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Lock screen apps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There is only Flashlight and Camera and yes, you could remove both of them.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lock screen apps

So I'm curious, can you remove all apps from your lock screen so if I decided I 
didn't want any apps on there, could I take them all away and just have the 
time and the date and notifications because personally that's what I would 
prefer

> On Sep 17, 2024, at 8:41 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> Double tap and hold on the time and then double tap on customize near the 
> bottom. Now double tap on the wallpaper you want to customize. It should be 
> the first one listed. Now at the bottom you can remove camera or flashlight 
> and then add new action items.
> 
> Thanks to Jenn for letting me know I should double tap on the time. Right now 
> I've replaced the flashlight and camera with the calculator and mail. I'll 
> probably settle on something other than the calculator, but I'm just playing 
> around right now.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jessica Barr
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 5:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Lock screen apps
> 
> I haven't figured out how to add apps to the lock screen either, and the 
> double tap and hold gesture on the lock screen won't allow me to remove the 
> camera or flashlight from it.
> Jessica
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
> Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 06:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Lock screen apps
> 
> What apps are people adding to the lock screen?
> I cannot manage to figure out how you get to the point of adding anything but 
> wigits or wall paper.
> I don't want Wigits getting in my way, at least not yet.
> Richard, USA
> "INTROVERTS UNITE ...
> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: 
> https://www.turner42.com/ -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Lock screen apps
> I probably need to mess with this more myself, but how do you double tap and 
> hold on the lock screen? Whenever I double tap and hold on the screen, it 
> brings up the clock, fitness app, camera and so on. I've tried double tapping 
> and holding on a blank part of the lock screen but it's still bringing up one 
> of the apps on the lock screen.
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 12:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Lock screen apps
> Yes, just switched out the Flashlight icon with one to toggle recording for 
> the Just Press Record app.
> It is fairly straight forward, you double tap and hold on the lock screen and 
> then tap on "Customize", just explore from there. You have to first remove 
> one of the two bottom icons, Flashlight or Camera, before you have the "Add 
> Quick Action" button appear where you can choose a different one.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Rafal Marzec
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 1:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Lock screen apps
> Has anyone checked how to change default shortcuts on the lock screen for 
> example from torch and camera to something else?
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: big problem with IOS 18.0 update on Iphone SE 2nd gen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

CerePlay is an app which allows you to buy various text to speech voices. The 
reviews are mixed leaning towards the negative and I won't even give it a 
second thought because I am very happy with the selection of voices I have in 
iOS, between Eloquence, the Siri voices and the other ones offered I have no 
problems finding one I like.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: big problem with IOS 18.0 update on Iphone SE 2nd gen

What are CerePlay voices? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Goshawk On Horseback
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: big problem with IOS 18.0 update on Iphone SE 2nd gen

By any chance, are you trying to use any of the CerePlay voices?
I ask this, as I recently attempted to use one of these on my 13 pro, and the 
result was so bad, that I had a lot of trouble even switching back to my 
previous voice.

Simon, the March Merman.


On 16 Sep 2024, at 21:08, Dan  wrote:



 

I updated and now my VO is producing loud static instead of the voice.  
It is so severe that I had to have my wife look at it to see if she could 
change the voice.  that did nothing to fix it.




I did power off and back on but this fixed it for about 30 seconds and 
it started the static again.




I am now going to connect to my laptop and restore my phone back to IOS 
17.7.




Anyone else having this issue yet?




Thanks.

 


-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA



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RE: Accessible task manager app recommendations

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You could simply use the Reminders app, make a "Assignments" list and then add 
each assignment with a due date there.

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Hi, I am a very busy college student, and I'm wondering what task manager app 
you guys use that is VO accessible? I'll be keeping track of my assignments and 
their due dates. 
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RE: Lock screen apps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, just switched out the Flashlight icon with one to toggle recording for the 
Just Press Record app.
It is fairly straight forward, you double tap and hold on the lock screen and 
then tap on "Customize", just explore from there. You have to first remove one 
of the two bottom icons, Flashlight or Camera, before you have the "Add Quick 
Action" button appear where you can choose a different one.


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Has anyone checked how to change default shortcuts on the lock screen for 
example from torch and camera to something else?
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RE: big problem with IOS 18.0 update on Iphone SE 2nd gen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Can you provide more information about this “CerePlay”, I have never heard 
about it before.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Goshawk 
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You might have to get the CerePlay app first, then at least one of them should 
appear. As the result was so poor, I haven’t looked into it further, but think 
additional voices need to be purchased.

Simon, the March Merman.


On 17 Sep 2024, at 01:34, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Where are you finding these Cereplay voices?
I’m not seeing them under VoiceOver Speech.


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By any chance, are you trying to use any of the CerePlay voices?
I ask this, as I recently attempted to use one of these on my 13 pro, and the 
result was so bad, that I had a lot of trouble even switching back to my 
previous voice.

Simon, the March Merman.



On 16 Sep 2024, at 21:08, Dan 
mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I updated and now my VO is producing loud static instead of the voice.  It is 
so severe that I had to have my wife look at it to see if she could change the 
voice.  that did nothing to fix it.



I did power off and back on but this fixed it for about 30 seconds and it 
started the static again.



I am now going to connect to my laptop and restore my phone back to IOS 17.7.



Anyone else having this issue yet?



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RE: big problem with IOS 18.0 update on Iphone SE 2nd gen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Buy “CerePlay” do you mean “Siri”? I have been using the North American Siri 
Voice 4 on my iPhone for a long time now as I find it is the clearest and best 
at slightly higher speeds. I never have any issues and I have tried all the 
other Siri voices as well, they are all fine except to my ears Siri Voice 4, 
called “Nora” in the voices rotor sounds the best.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Goshawk 
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By any chance, are you trying to use any of the CerePlay voices?
I ask this, as I recently attempted to use one of these on my 13 pro, and the 
result was so bad, that I had a lot of trouble even switching back to my 
previous voice.

Simon, the March Merman.


On 16 Sep 2024, at 21:08, Dan 
mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I updated and now my VO is producing loud static instead of the voice.  It is 
so severe that I had to have my wife look at it to see if she could change the 
voice.  that did nothing to fix it.



I did power off and back on but this fixed it for about 30 seconds and it 
started the static again.



I am now going to connect to my laptop and restore my phone back to IOS 17.7.



Anyone else having this issue yet?



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RE: big problem with IOS 18.0 update on Iphone SE 2nd gen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Why not call Apple Accessibility and see if they can help.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 1:08 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
Subject: big problem with IOS 18.0 update on Iphone SE 2nd gen


I updated and now my VO is producing loud static instead of the voice.  It is 
so severe that I had to have my wife look at it to see if she could change the 
voice.  that did nothing to fix it.



I did power off and back on but this fixed it for about 30 seconds and it 
started the static again.



I am now going to connect to my laptop and restore my phone back to IOS 17.7.



Anyone else having this issue yet?



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RE: Interacting with QR codes in the email

[Sieghard Weitzel]

QR codes are for scanning with a camera so if you open the email on your iPhone 
then you can't really scan the QR code. If you were to open the email on a 
computer with a screen, then you can use your iPhone to scan the QR code and it 
would take you to the information. Are you sure there is only the barcode and 
not a link you can click which would also bring up the information on a web 
page?


-Original Message-
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Luck
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 7:41 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Interacting with QR codes in the email

My daughter school likes to send emails with information containing them that 
require you to click on a QR code to access the information. I have an iPhone 
13 with the most updated version of iOS and I’m using voiceover. I am having 
difficulty trying to launch or somehow access the QR code so I can get the 
necessary information that is being sent to me. Any help anyone could provide 
would be wonderful. It just shows up as an image and of course, when I tap on 
it, it doesn’t do anything. Not sure what else to do.
Dacia.
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RE: Questions about apple watch and swimming.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

To my knowledge there is no case you can use which makes the watch waterproof 
while you wear it on your wrist.
You can remove waterlock by pressing and holding the crown but keep in mind 
that if the watch is wet and your hands are wet, touch gestures can be very 
unreliable. But you could at that point invoke Siri and ask for the time and 
maybe a double tap would trigger haptic feedback pretty reliably, haven’t 
really tested that because if I do say a 1000 meter pool swim and I know when I 
started, then I don’t need to know the time because I know roughly it takes me 
32 minutes give or take a bit for the 40 laps which make up 1000 meters. If I 
know I started say at 1:30 PM and I have done 20 laps, I know that about 16 
minutes went by. I still count the lanes in my head and when I think I’m done I 
remove waterlock and see what the watch recorded. As I said before, it seems 
the watch always is 1 lane short so if I know I did 20 lanes because I’m at the 
same end of the pool where I started hence it has to be an even number, the 
pool swim workout screen always tells me I did 19 laps.
There is definitely room for improvement when it comes to how much a Voiceover 
users gets out of the watch for swimming workouts. I understand the need to 
lock the display, but they could maybe allow something where you can push the 
digital crown, side button or action button and Voiceove r would read out the 
time and the information from your workout screen. I also have never yet been 
able to set it up to vibrate say if you have done a certain distance and I 
think this option exists.
Having said this, I am always wondering why when we go for a walk and use the 
outdoor walk workout, Siri on my wife’s watch (she does not use Voiceover) 
announces the distance after 1 Km, 2 Km etc. If I have Voiceover on Siri does 
not do this and neither does Voiceover, if I turn Voiceover off I get the same 
announcements and I think it’s stupid that as blind users we don’t get either 
Siri or Voiceover to give us that information.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 7:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions about apple watch and swimming.

So how exactly do you tell time with the apple watch?  Do you just press the 
crown  to hear the watch announce the time like I do with my phone, but in the 
case of the phone, I just press the power button.  Or do you have to do 
something with the display like tapping it or something to get the watch to 
announce time?  I have heard that it is possible to switch the watch 
announcement to haptics in the watch's settings.  Would I be able to set 
something up like that to get the watch to tell me the time while swimming?  If 
this feature requires you to do something with the display, could I change it 
to initiate with another gesture like pressing the crown a couple of times or 
something?  Alternatively,  Could I just turn off waterlock and then turn it 
back on again after it tells me the time?   As what about Siri? Could I 
initiate Siri and get it to tell me the time for the bluetooth issue, I have 
also seen an article that reviewed swimming headphones and there was one that 
used radio frequencies instead of bluetooth that sounded good.
Just one more question. If none of my suggestions work, would it be possible to 
buy a waterproof case that I could put on the watch to avoid the waterlock 
altogether?


On Sep 16, 2024, at 3:36 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

You can’t do anything with your watch while waterlock is on, here a statement 
taken directly from Apple support:
“When Water Lock is on, your Apple Watch doesn't respond to touch on its 
display. This prevents accidental input while you're in water.”
You can start music and then turn on waterlock, but from what I read the 
problem is that the Bluetooth connection between the watch and your waterproof 
headset may not be very consistant as your arm goes under water; one poster 
said that even just a couple of inches of water are enough to block a Bluetooth 
signal. When I Googled this, I did find the following website which may be a 
solution, but I haven’t bought this so I can’t be sure:

Swim Headphones for Apple Watch | H2O 
Audio<https://h2oaudio.com/products/interval-swim-headphones-for-apple-watch#:~:text=With%20built%2Din%20100%25%20waterproof,low%20drag%20in%20the%20water.>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 8:09 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Questions about apple watch and swimming.

Hi everyone!
I am considering getting a jym membership with a pool for exercising.  I was 
also considering getting an apple watch to use while swimming so that I could 
listen to music while swimming, and also to be able to tell how long I have 
been in the pool so that I can be sure that I get out and dressed in time to 
catch the bus to go back home.  I planned to use some waterproof h

RE: Smart locks

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorry, yes, you do need a device which is an Apple Home Hub for the Homekit 
integration to work so either an Apple TV I think it has to be 4th Generation, 
a Homepod (not sure which models qualify) or an iPad. I often read that the 
Apple TV is your best option.
However, Homekey does work without, we had a planned power outage yesterday 
which lasted from 7 AM to 5 PM and when we came back from a walk I of course 
couldn’t use Siri to unlock the door so I unlocked my iPhone and as soon as I 
held it up to the lock it unlocked even though there was no power.

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Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 7:12 PM
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Subject: RE: Smart locks

We have a Schlage Encode Plus, one of the more expensive options, but an 
excellent lock which supports Homekit and Homekey or whatever it is called 
where I can just walk up to my lock, hold my Apple Watch up to it and it will 
unlock without any further intervention. Same works with my iPhone, but of 
course the iPhone has to be unlocked first. You can also ask Siri to unlock it 
and the app works OK as far as setting up codes for guests or maybe you have an 
electrician or plumber coming between 8 and 9 on Wednesday, you could set up a 
code for them and make it so it only works during that time on that particular 
day; I think you can also designate codes to work only once. Of course you 
could always ask them to call when they are at your door and you can then 
remotely unlock the door for them.
There are of course other locks which have all or most of these features, Apple 
Homekey is not quite as common, but there are more and more locks which support 
it as well.

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Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 7:03 AM
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Subject: Smart locks

Has anyone installed any of the different smart locks, and how well do the apps 
work with IOS and home kit?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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RE: Smart locks

[Sieghard Weitzel]

We have a Schlage Encode Plus, one of the more expensive options, but an 
excellent lock which supports Homekit and Homekey or whatever it is called 
where I can just walk up to my lock, hold my Apple Watch up to it and it will 
unlock without any further intervention. Same works with my iPhone, but of 
course the iPhone has to be unlocked first. You can also ask Siri to unlock it 
and the app works OK as far as setting up codes for guests or maybe you have an 
electrician or plumber coming between 8 and 9 on Wednesday, you could set up a 
code for them and make it so it only works during that time on that particular 
day; I think you can also designate codes to work only once. Of course you 
could always ask them to call when they are at your door and you can then 
remotely unlock the door for them.
There are of course other locks which have all or most of these features, Apple 
Homekey is not quite as common, but there are more and more locks which support 
it as well.

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pdlloga...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 7:03 AM
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Subject: Smart locks

Has anyone installed any of the different smart locks, and how well do the apps 
work with IOS and home kit?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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RE: I sent my iPhone 12 Mini back to Apple for a gift card

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can always get more if you sell your iPhone privately.

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Subject: I sent my iPhone 12 Mini back to Apple for a gift card

As the subject line indicates, I used the Apple trade-in to get an Apple gift 
card for my iPhone 12 Mini. And figuring the trade-in values would go down, I 
initiated the trade-in over the weekend.

They offered me $140 on Saturday, whereas that value was reduced to $120 for 
offers initiated after the announcements on Monday. Also, for those of you who 
may not know, and I’m guessing it really does make sense, the trade-in values 
for opting for the gift card are less than for those when opting to trade for a 
new phone, with those for buying another phone when trading in the 12 Mini here 
in the US being $170 on Saturday and $150 on Monday.

So, at least for now, I’ve replaced my iPhone 13 Mini with my iPhone 15 Pro as 
my main phone, and then I’ve switched the 13 Mini to my backup second line 
phone since I no longer have the 12 Mini for that purpose. And, oh wow, 
although I do plan to keep my 15 Pro, I’m sure having problems getting used to 
the larger size of that phone. It just seems so heavy and bulky in my hand 
after using the Mini phones.
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RE: Problem con Siri

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorry Caroline, but what have hills and woods to do with asking Siri to start a 
call?
I start calls with Siri all the time and I live right next to an 8,500 foot 
mountain; it makes no difference if you ask Siri to start a call or if you 
start the call from your contact list or if you use the keypad to dial the 
number, as long as you have a good enough cell signal your call will go 
through. Of course mountains will effect the cellular coverage in your area 
depending on how many towers there are, here in Northern BC where I live you 
loose cell coverage as soon as you are 20 or 30 minutes outside of town, then 
you have a deadspot and drive into the coverage area of the next town and so on.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2024 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Problem con Siri

Here, there are hills and woods, and apparently in certain places, calls won't 
work with Siri, but will when done from the phone. At least, that has been true 
in my case. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
donmoor...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2024 7:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Problem con Siri

Truthfully, I’ve had no problem with asking Siri to either call someone in my 
directory or by saying “call and then state the area code and number.  Is there 
another issue which could cloud what Siri hears?
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2024 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problem con Siri
 
Hello,
 
Lately, Siri doesn’t understand when one ask her to make a call. I use this 
feature very seldom, but I have a sighted friend who needs to use Siri to make 
calls due to some health problem.
Does anyone know about any solution?
 
Rena
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RE: Questions about apple watch and swimming.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can’t do anything with your watch while waterlock is on, here a statement 
taken directly from Apple support:
“When Water Lock is on, your Apple Watch doesn't respond to touch on its 
display. This prevents accidental input while you're in water.”
You can start music and then turn on waterlock, but from what I read the 
problem is that the Bluetooth connection between the watch and your waterproof 
headset may not be very consistant as your arm goes under water; one poster 
said that even just a couple of inches of water are enough to block a Bluetooth 
signal. When I Googled this, I did find the following website which may be a 
solution, but I haven’t bought this so I can’t be sure:

Swim Headphones for Apple Watch | H2O 
Audio

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 8:09 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Questions about apple watch and swimming.

Hi everyone!
I am considering getting a jym membership with a pool for exercising.  I was 
also considering getting an apple watch to use while swimming so that I could 
listen to music while swimming, and also to be able to tell how long I have 
been in the pool so that I can be sure that I get out and dressed in time to 
catch the bus to go back home.  I planned to use some waterproof head phones to 
listen to the music.
>From other emails in this list on this issue, I know that in order to swim 
>with the apple watch you have to turn on a waterlock and you have to turn this 
>off in order to do things with the watch like have it read the screen.  
>However,  is it still possible to use the watch to tell time while swimming?  
>Also if you set up the music such as a pandora station before initiating the 
>water lock feature, can you listen to the music after the feature is engaged?  
>  alternatively,  is there an apple watch case or something that is waterproof 
>that could be used instead of the water lock feature?
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RE: Three-way calling.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Did you make sure to tell the first person to not hang up, I assume that after 
you pressed Add Caller the first person though the call had disconnected and 
they hung up.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Three-way calling.

We both know how to do that, but when we pressed for Add Caller, it cut off the 
first one. Who knows why. Maybe it was a one time thing; I hope so. 

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Joseph Hudson
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Three-way calling.

Carolyn, the object of this is to hit the call, but select the person that you 
wanna call or type in their phone number. Tap on the phone number if you are 
selecting from a contact or if you're dialing the keypad hit the call button, 
once they pick up, then hitch the merge button. And then the two parties will 
be connected.

> On Sep 13, 2024, at 10:29 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Last night, my daughter-in-law and her mother and I wanted to talk 
> three way. However, neither Sharon with her iPhone, nor me with mine, 
> could not complete the three-way call without losing the one on the 
> other line. Her mom has just a flip phone. I told Sharon that the 
> problem might be related to the latest update of 17.6.1.
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RE: Three-way calling.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As long as you initiate the 3-way call it makes no difference if the other 2 
people have an iPhone, Android phone, flip phone or a land line.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 10:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Three-way calling.

No, we haven't. Interesting that it could be getting to her phone, obviously an 
Android type.l 

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From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 11:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Three-way calling.

Have you done the three-way call with that person's flip phone before?
There is nothing in the 17.6.1 update that would cause this.


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 8:30 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Three-way calling.

Last night, my daughter-in-law and her mother and I wanted to talk three way. 
However, neither Sharon with her iPhone, nor me with mine, could not complete 
the three-way call without losing the one on the other line. Her mom has just a 
flip phone. I told Sharon that the problem might be related to the latest 
update of 17.6.1. 

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RE: Apple Watch 10 strap sizes question?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

When I just did a Google search for "Apple Watch 10 strap sizes", one of th 
efirst few search results was a PDF file from Apple which contains a tool to 
find your exact strap size.
You would, however, need sighted help since there are a few requirements:
First, you have to print the page at 100% scaling and there is a way to check 
after the page printed if the size is correct. There is a box on the page and 
if you put a credit card in that box and it's an exact fit, then it's printed 
correctly.
Second, you have to cut out the tool or template and then wrap it arund your 
wrist and there will be an arrow pointing at a line which indicates your exact 
size.
Of course if you have an Apple Store nearby you could simply go there as I am 
sure they have something similar to determine your strap size.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2024 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: watchosblindusersgr...@groups.io
Subject: Apple Watch 10 strap sizes question?

Hello,

Looking at the Apple Store App and the section for ordering the new Apple Watch 
10 I see that some straps are listed with sizes one to twelve.  I can see no 
reference as to what these sizes actually mean.  So is one to twelve smallest 
to largest for instance?

Any suggestions welcome.
Malcolm Parfitt

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Apple Watch 10 and playing audio over the external speakers

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I really like the watch in terms of how 
responsive it is and especially the fact I get almost 3 days of battery life.
One thing I really wish, however, the Ultra 2 would get with the Watch OS 11 
update is the ability to play audio via the watch speaker. I read that you can 
finally do this with the Apple Watch 10 and that it is because of the speaker 
design so most likely this means it won't be something a mere software update 
wil lbring to the Apple Watch Ultra 2.

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RE: Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I assume if you started music playing before on a Bluetooth headset and then 
turned on waterlock it would continue, never tried it because I have yet to 
find a waterproof headset I liked. As for Voiceover, no, with waterlock on the 
screen is locked so you have to press and hold the crow to remove the waterlock 
first before you can get anything out of Voiceover.
If the watch is wet and you have wet hands touch gestures are also a bit more 
hit and miss so often I wipe my watch on my bathing trunks even though they are 
also wet, but at least it removes any water droplets and if you then blow 
across the display for a second or two, it does at least make it a little 
better.
I haven’t yet really spend any time with a sighted person to ask what sort of 
information they see with waterlock on, but I assume they can see the workout 
screen just fine showing them how many lanes they did and all that. they

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2024 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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So for clarification when you're swimming and you put the water lock on, you 
can't use VoiceOver at all not even to tell time. Can you still listen to music 
if you wanted to


On Sep 10, 2024, at 2:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Yes, and I find it very ridiculous that Apple does not allow for basic 
Voiceover output when waterlock is on.
In fact, even my Apple Watch Ultra 2 at 100% volume is not loud enough where I 
can really hear the details when I do a pool swim even if it’s only moderately 
noisy in the pool. I actually had ordered a bone conduduction headset similar 
to an Aftershokz which is waterproof from Amazon, but it just did not have a 
good fit and I returned it immediately. I saw that Shokz also makes a 
waterproof one which I think is called OpenSwim and I may just have to get 
that, of course the fact they have an “OpenCom”, an “OpenRun” and an “OpenSwim” 
is purely marketing, they just should make one version which is waterproof and 
be done with it.

And just for anybody who is interested, another pet peeve of mine is the fact 
that when I do a pool swim the app always counts one lane short, e.g. if I do 
40 laps it counts 39, but of course I know I have done 40 because I end up on 
the same side of the pool where I started which means it has to be an even 
number. We only have half an Olympic size pool with 25 meter lanes so if I 
start on the shallow end and swim down to the deep end that is my first lane, 
then I swim back to the shallow end and that is #2, I usually swim 1 Km which 
means I do 40 lanes or 20 times back and forth, but when I get back after the 
last one and then stop the work out it shows me that I did 39 lanes.


From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 3:37 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

When you have Water Lock on, you cannot use the screen, so no hearing VO anyway.
It is designed for swimmers who want to track their activity.
When you get out of the water, they say to dry it off before unlocking the 
water lock status.


Richard, USA
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca<mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

Hi yes I agree I have a apple watch 6 and it still does what I want it to so it 
is doing me well. I can’t really understand the hole water lock thing and how 
would you hear vo when you where under water anyways? From Mich Verrier from 
New Liskeard Ontario Canada.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September 9, 2024 3:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

The Apple Watch 10 sounds like it has a few good new features although even 
here I don’t see much of a reason to upgrade if you currently have a series 9 
watch.
I was very surprised that unless I am missing something, the only “upgrade” to 
the Apple Watch Ultra 2 is a few new colour options; I was expecting an Apple 
Watch Ultra 3 and I am very happy that my Ultra 2 I bought last year seems to 
still be the cutting edge.


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RE: Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Amazon


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2024 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

Where can I get this from, please?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 11:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

I bought a third party Milanese loop for my Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I am very 
happy with it, of course it cost a fraction o fwhat Apple wants for their’s.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Chela 
Robles
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 12:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

I guess what I’m interested in is the Melanese loop since I already have an 
ultra. Sorry for any typos.
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2024, at 12:22 PM, Jessica Barr 
mailto:barr.jess...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have a Series 8 Apple Watch, and I'm trying to decide if it's worth 
upgrading to the Series 10. I'm tempted because of the thinner casing and the 
fact that I can't use the double tap feature that was introduced last year.
Jessica
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2024, at 3:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

The Apple Watch 10 sounds like it has a few good new features although even 
here I don’t see much of a reason to upgrade if you currently have a series 9 
watch.
I was very surprised that unless I am missing something, the only “upgrade” to 
the Apple Watch Ultra 2 is a few new colour options; I was expecting an Apple 
Watch Ultra 3 and I am very happy that my Ultra 2 I bought last year seems to 
still be the cutting edge.


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RE: Headphones

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As long as both the headphones and adapter are functioning correctly sound 
should come from both sides.
Mak esure that the 3.5 mm male jack of the headphones is plugged in all the 
way, sometimes it take a little extra force and you may actually hear it click.
Apart from that my  question is that if you want a wired headset, why not just 
buy a set of Apple Earpods with Lightning connector so you can plug them 
straight into your iPhone? In the US they cost $19 and for that price they are 
actually a really good headset.

From: h.begum99 via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2024 7:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Headphones

Hello,

I bought a Lightning to 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter for my iPhone SE  but the 
sound just comes out of the left side, is there anything I can change in the 
settings etc to make sound come out of both sides? Is it best to just return it 
to the shop?

Thanks
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RE: smaller phones

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can’t ask how many phone choices Android users get because there are dozens 
of companies making Android phones. If you want to compare it like this you 
need to ask how many phone models Samsung or Google make and of course by that 
I mean in each given year. It maybe be more than the 5 models of iPhone, but 
probably not a lot more.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: smaller phones


I agree. I like the way my 13 Mini fits in my pocket better than the standard 
sized iPhone 12 I had before did. And I also plan to hold on to it as long as I 
possibly can.

True, these smaller phones have smaller batteries, but for what I use mine for, 
my battery life is just fine.

One might be forgiven for thinking that a company valued at over 3 trillion 
dollars could give us more than, what? four or five choices of iPhone, and make 
one of them smaller, but one would apparently be mistaken about that.

Although, from what I have read, as Joshua pointed out, the 13 Mini did not 
sell great, it does have a pretty loyal fan base; and Apple could certainly 
afford to produce a greater variety of iPhones than they do.

How many choices of phones do Android users get? I really have no idea, but it 
is certainly a lot more than four or five.

Evan


On 9/9/2024 7:33 AM, Kerry Macdonald wrote:
I too hope that they will release another smaller phone in the near future. I 
love the size of my SE and I’m disappointed to learn that the new one will be 
about the size of an iPhone 14. I really want a smaller phone and will hold 
onto this one as long as it will update. I don’t understand the emphasis on 
these huge phones I get that sided folks like a larger screen, but there should 
be something available for those of us with smaller hands who like the smaller 
form factor.

Kerry

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2024, at 1:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

Not this year and even the expected iPhone SE 4th generation will now be a 
larger phone most likely similar to a regular iPhone 16.
There are rumours about an iPhone 17 Air or iPhone 17 Slim or whatever Apple 
will call it a year from now, but whether this phone will actually be much 
smaller or simply a thinner phone nobody knows.

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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Paula 
Jordan
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: smaller phones

Just wondering if anyone has heard any rumors about a new mini type phone.  I 
really like the size of my 13 mini.  Just curious.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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RE: Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, and I find it very ridiculous that Apple does not allow for basic 
Voiceover output when waterlock is on.
In fact, even my Apple Watch Ultra 2 at 100% volume is not loud enough where I 
can really hear the details when I do a pool swim even if it’s only moderately 
noisy in the pool. I actually had ordered a bone conduduction headset similar 
to an Aftershokz which is waterproof from Amazon, but it just did not have a 
good fit and I returned it immediately. I saw that Shokz also makes a 
waterproof one which I think is called OpenSwim and I may just have to get 
that, of course the fact they have an “OpenCom”, an “OpenRun” and an “OpenSwim” 
is purely marketing, they just should make one version which is waterproof and 
be done with it.

And just for anybody who is interested, another pet peeve of mine is the fact 
that when I do a pool swim the app always counts one lane short, e.g. if I do 
40 laps it counts 39, but of course I know I have done 40 because I end up on 
the same side of the pool where I started which means it has to be an even 
number. We only have half an Olympic size pool with 25 meter lanes so if I 
start on the shallow end and swim down to the deep end that is my first lane, 
then I swim back to the shallow end and that is #2, I usually swim 1 Km which 
means I do 40 lanes or 20 times back and forth, but when I get back after the 
last one and then stop the work out it shows me that I did 39 lanes.


From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 3:37 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

When you have Water Lock on, you cannot use the screen, so no hearing VO anyway.
It is designed for swimmers who want to track their activity.
When you get out of the water, they say to dry it off before unlocking the 
water lock status.


Richard, USA
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

Hi yes I agree I have a apple watch 6 and it still does what I want it to so it 
is doing me well. I can’t really understand the hole water lock thing and how 
would you hear vo when you where under water anyways? From Mich Verrier from 
New Liskeard Ontario Canada.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September 9, 2024 3:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

The Apple Watch 10 sounds like it has a few good new features although even 
here I don’t see much of a reason to upgrade if you currently have a series 9 
watch.
I was very surprised that unless I am missing something, the only “upgrade” to 
the Apple Watch Ultra 2 is a few new colour options; I was expecting an Apple 
Watch Ultra 3 and I am very happy that my Ultra 2 I bought last year seems to 
still be the cutting edge.


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RE: Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I bought a third party Milanese loop for my Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I am very 
happy with it, of course it cost a fraction o fwhat Apple wants for their’s.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chela 
Robles
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 12:37 PM
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I guess what I’m interested in is the Melanese loop since I already have an 
ultra. Sorry for any typos.
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 9, 2024, at 12:22 PM, Jessica Barr  wrote:
I have a Series 8 Apple Watch, and I'm trying to decide if it's worth 
upgrading to the Series 10. I'm tempted because of the thinner casing and the 
fact that I can't use the double tap feature that was introduced last year.
Jessica
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 9, 2024, at 3:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

The Apple Watch 10 sounds like it has a few good new features although even 
here I don’t see much of a reason to upgrade if you currently have a series 9 
watch.
I was very surprised that unless I am missing something, the only “upgrade” to 
the Apple Watch Ultra 2 is a few new colour options; I was expecting an Apple 
Watch Ultra 3 and I am very happy that my Ultra 2 I bought last year seems to 
still be the cutting edge.


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RE: iPhone 16 vs iPhone 16 Pro - let the discussion begin

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What is your source for that? 

-Original Message-
From: 'Amy ruell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 3:47 PM
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Subject: Re: iPhone 16 vs iPhone 16 Pro - let the discussion begin

The 16 Pro models have light are, the 16 models do not.
Amy
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 9, 2024, at 6:38 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That makes sense.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> portillo@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 5:31 PM
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> Subject: RE: iPhone 16 vs iPhone 16 Pro - let the discussion begin
> 
> I don't believe so. I think it's the 16 pro that will have it.
> At least, that's what I got from trying to look it up.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> 
> That was what I wonder, would the 16 have LiDAR? Not my problem, since I 
> don't plan to update this year.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
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> Subject: iPhone 16 vs iPhone 16 Pro - let the discussion begin
> 
> I am sure there are a number of details which weren’t covered in the keynote, 
> but simply based on what was said there definitely seems to be less of a 
> reason for a blind person to buy an iPhone Pro or Pro Max as opposed to the 
> regular iPhone 16 or 16 Plus. One thing I am curious about is whether LiDAR 
> has made it to the regular iPhone 16 yet or if that is still a 16 Pro/Pro Max 
> only feature, but many of the other differences with pictures and videos is 
> possibly not as bog of a deal for a blind/visually impaired user and both 
> phones now have the action and capture buttons. Seems like for a few years 
> Apple really pushed the Pro phones with the next genration chip whereas the 
> regular phones kept the previous year’s chip, this year the iPhone 16 and 16 
> Plus also have the new A18 chip and while the Pro models have an A18 Pro chip 
> which is even faster, I wonder  if that is really worth the extra money.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Sieghard
> 
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RE: iPhone 16 vs iPhone 16 Pro - let the discussion begin

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Jim, sound and recording may be a deciding factor for some especially if you 
are playing music as this was a specific example shown during the presentation. 
For me recordings typically go as far as the occasional voice memo and I doubt 
the capabilities of the Pro series phones is going to make a difference there. 
Having said all that it is probably more likely that I would buy a Pro phone 
since the extra cost is something I can afford without having to think about it 
too much, but we’ll see, I am not in a particular hurry to preorder this Friday 
or to try and buy at a store a week later. Unless you run the iOS 18.1 Beta, 
Apple Intelligence is a very small deciding factor right now since we’ll only 
start seeing it in October when iOS 18.1 is officially released and much of it 
will stretch to iOS 18.2 in January and 18.3 in March and probably even beyond 
that. There is definitely an argument to be made for waiting until the iPhone 
17 next year but of course thi s all depends on what one has now. If I had 
anything like an iPhone 12 or older I wouldn’t even think twice. I currently 
have an iPhone 13 Pro which is an excellent phone and I bought it not in the 
release year of 2021, but a year later in December of 2022. I’ll see what the 
reviews say once a significant number of people have an iPhone 16 or 16 Pro and 
also check what I hear from those on the Viphone list who are going to jump 
onto it right away. I do take pictures with my phone and I think I’d find the 
new capture button handy, I’d also love to have an iPhone with a USB-C 
connector so I’m another major device closer to having only USB-C devices and I 
know for sure that I would probably really use and enjoy what Apple 
Intelligence has to offer once those features are here.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Hi Sieghard,
I believe a blind person might want the pros for the sound and recording 
capabilities though.
Also, I don’t know, but from what I gathered, the 16 pro phones will have LiDAR.
Jim

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
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Subject: iPhone 16 vs iPhone 16 Pro - let the discussion begin

I am sure there are a number of details which weren’t covered in the keynote, 
but simply based on what was said there definitely seems to be less of a reason 
for a blind person to buy an iPhone Pro or Pro Max as opposed to the regular 
iPhone 16 or 16 Plus. One thing I am curious about is whether LiDAR has made it 
to the regular iPhone 16 yet or if that is still a 16 Pro/Pro Max only feature, 
but many of the other differences with pictures and videos is possibly not as 
bog of a deal for a blind/visually impaired user and both phones now have the 
action and capture buttons. Seems like for a few years Apple really pushed the 
Pro phones with the next genration chip whereas the regular phones kept the 
previous year’s chip, this year the iPhone 16 and 16 Plus also have the new A18 
chip and while the Pro models have an A18 Pro chip which is even faster, I 
wonder  if that is really worth the extra money.


Take care,
Sieghard

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Airpods

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think this is the first year I may feel tempted to maybe buy a set of 
Airpods. I still can't see myself spending all that money for Airpods Pro, but 
the new 4th generation Airpods either with or without noise cancellation do 
sound somewhat intriquing and especially the regular ones at $129.99 US which 
probably means they'll be $179.99 in Canada might be worth considering. Still 
would have to try them first at an Apple Store however since I really don't 
like things sticking in my ear and that is exactly why I like the wired Earpods 
so much as they just lightly sit there and at least for me they rarely ever 
fall out.

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Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The Apple Watch 10 sounds like it has a few good new features although even 
here I don't see much of a reason to upgrade if you currently have a series 9 
watch.
I was very surprised that unless I am missing something, the only "upgrade" to 
the Apple Watch Ultra 2 is a few new colour options; I was expecting an Apple 
Watch Ultra 3 and I am very happy that my Ultra 2 I bought last year seems to 
still be the cutting edge.


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iPhone 16 vs iPhone 16 Pro - let the discussion begin

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I am sure there are a number of details which weren't covered in the keynote, 
but simply based on what was said there definitely seems to be less of a reason 
for a blind person to buy an iPhone Pro or Pro Max as opposed to the regular 
iPhone 16 or 16 Plus. One thing I am curious about is whether LiDAR has made it 
to the regular iPhone 16 yet or if that is still a 16 Pro/Pro Max only feature, 
but many of the other differences with pictures and videos is possibly not as 
bog of a deal for a blind/visually impaired user and both phones now have the 
action and capture buttons. Seems like for a few years Apple really pushed the 
Pro phones with the next genration chip whereas the regular phones kept the 
previous year's chip, this year the iPhone 16 and 16 Plus also have the new A18 
chip and while the Pro models have an A18 Pro chip which is even faster, I 
wonder  if that is really worth the extra money.


Take care,
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RE: Mail badge not changing when eMails come in.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Where do you get this information?
I have an iCloud account set up on my iPhone as well as my business email which 
is Exchange and my personal Outlook account which is also Exchange. For all 
three accounts push is on and before going into any of the accounts 
specifically, it says “Fetch new data, push”
This is using iOS 18 Beta but it was no different in iOS 17.

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Hudson
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 8:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hello, push is no longer supported for exchange or Outlook accounts anymore. 
You have to use the fetch schedule only.


On Sep 9, 2024, at 8:43 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Hello,
You can configure how often Mail checks for new messages. I am not sure about 
iMAP, but I believe iCloud and Exchange accounts send a message to the mail 
client (push) when a new message is received. For IMAP I believe you have to 
configure the frequency of checks.



On Sep 9, 2024, at 6:58 AM, Peter Tesar  wrote:

Hello,

When on the Home screen, I assume that the badge is the number of unread Emails 
that are shown when "Mail" is highlighted. This number does not change unless I 
open the Mail app.

For example:
On the Home screen, I highlight “mail” and hear:
   Mail 0 unread Email

I leave the Iphone (on the Home screen) for an hour and then check (by flicking 
back and forth) to hear that the number of unread Emails has not changed. I 
know new mail was received in that hour.

There are 2 ways to confirm this.

Double tap Mail to open it and Immediately close the mail app to return to the 
Home screen. Flick back & forth to highlight Mail. The number of unread Emails 
has gon up.

Or, when the mail app is open, I highlight my_ISP account and hear that there 
is a higher number of unread Emails than was reported on the Home screen.
I even tried this test with the Mail app active but in the background.

If I leave the Iphone untouched (with the Mail app in the foreground) for 
another hour, the account badge still gives the same number of unread Emails.

Double tapping will open the account, and there is a list of even more unread 
Emails.

Sometimes when opening the Mail app I hear:
   Updated just now

Is the update done only when the Mail app is opened?
Why doesn’t the Home screen Mail badge number change automatically to reflect 
new mail as they come in?
Is there a setting to force the Mail app badge to automatically update?

Peter T.


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RE: Mail badge not changing when eMails come in.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I wonder if he has push on for email and also background app refresh.


From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 4:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mail badge not changing when eMails come in.

There are two places in settings to check.
settings, notifications,  and scroll down to mail and make sure badges is on.
Also, settings, mail, near the top should be another spot that needs to have 
badges on.
If those are on, and still no changes, maybe calling Apple.


Richard, USA
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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
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(sent from my iPhone 13 pro)



On Sep 9, 2024, at 3:58 AM, Peter Tesar  wrote:

Hello,

When on the Home screen, I assume that the badge is the number of unread Emails 
that are shown when "Mail" is highlighted. This number does not change unless I 
open the Mail app.

For example:
On the Home screen, I highlight “mail” and hear:
   Mail 0 unread Email

I leave the Iphone (on the Home screen) for an hour and then check (by flicking 
back and forth) to hear that the number of unread Emails has not changed. I 
know new mail was received in that hour.

There are 2 ways to confirm this.

Double tap Mail to open it and Immediately close the mail app to return to the 
Home screen. Flick back & forth to highlight Mail. The number of unread Emails 
has gon up.

Or, when the mail app is open, I highlight my_ISP account and hear that there 
is a higher number of unread Emails than was reported on the Home screen.
I even tried this test with the Mail app active but in the background.

If I leave the Iphone untouched (with the Mail app in the foreground) for 
another hour, the account badge still gives the same number of unread Emails.

Double tapping will open the account, and there is a list of even more unread 
Emails.

Sometimes when opening the Mail app I hear:
   Updated just now

Is the update done only when the Mail app is opened?
Why doesn’t the Home screen Mail badge number change automatically to reflect 
new mail as they come in?
Is there a setting to force the Mail app badge to automatically update?

Peter T.
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RE: Ray-Ban Meta glasses

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Guys, why state you are interested, the link is right there so just join 
because nobody can do it for you.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric 
Caron
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ray-Ban Meta glasses

I would be interested in joining.

Eric Caron



On Sep 9, 2024, at 1:35 PM, Kerry Macdonald  wrote:

I would love to join your group as I am planning to get these glasses very soon.


Kerry

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 9, 2024, at 10:42 AM, Dana Leet  wrote:
If any of you are getting or have the Ray-Ban meta-glasses. I created a 
WhatsApp group so that we can discuss and support each other with this. I felt 
it was appropriate to post here because the glasses utilize an app on our 
phones for the ability to use them. If anyone’s interested, I will post the 
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Ray ban meta discussion group for the visually 
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RE: Ray-Ban Meta glasses

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Works fine for me, click the link and Whatsapp comes up, then tap on Join Chat

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 8:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ray-Ban Meta glasses

Hi Dana I tried to join this what’s app group through the link you posted but 
all it did was bring up what’s app and that’s it. Maybe try posting the link 
again. From Mich.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dana 
Leet
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Subject: Ray-Ban Meta glasses

If any of you are getting or have the Ray-Ban meta-glasses. I created a 
WhatsApp group so that we can discuss and support each other with this. I felt 
it was appropriate to post here because the glasses utilize an app on our 
phones for the ability to use them. If anyone’s interested, I will post the 
link below and we would love to have you in our group, especially if you’re 
using the glasses so you can help others and also give us the experiences that 
you’ve been having using them. Thanks and have a great day.
[cid:image001.png@01DB02AE.9571CD70]
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RE: Adding music to a library

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can use Dropbox and access your music files from the Dropbox app, but you 
are not able to add them to your iTunes library this way where they are then 
available through the Music app on your iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2024 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Adding music to a library

I've heard that you can use dropbox to do this. You just save the folders in 
dropbox on your computer and then you download the dropbox app on your phone 
and you can have access to the Files that way I think you can even move them 
into different apps by sharing them. I've never done it myself, but I believe 
it is possible. you may have to zip them first. I'm not sure maybe someone else 
who's done it would have more information on this.

> On Sep 8, 2024, at 2:58 AM, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I have a bunch of music that I want to add to my iPhones library. It’s on an 
> SD card, and I don’t know how to add it so that I can listen to it on my 
> phone. I have the music separated into folders the way I want it, but I’m not 
> sure if it will be the same once I transfer it to my phone. Does anyone have 
> any advice? I am using a PC computer with Jaws 2024. Thank you in advance!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jasmine 
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RE: Restore iPhone via iCloud Backup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And have you tried with a wired headset?
Also, which version of iOS are  you running?
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 10:56 AM
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Richard et al,

I’ll give that a try, but volume doesn’t appear to be the issue.  The 
extraneous sound effects associated with VoiceOver are clearly audible.  When I 
toggle VoiceOver (via the physical home button) it’s obvious that VoiceOver is 
getting turned on and off.


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On Sep 2, 2024, at 8:06 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Before you try that. Have you tried doing a two finger flick up and then 
quickly tapping the up volume to see if you hear VoiceOver getting lder? The 
volume may just be all the way down. Also, have you tried doing this with 
headphones plugged in?



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On Sep 2, 2024, at 5:47 AM, Bill Gallik 
mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have a serious problem with my iPhone SE 3, VoiceOver is not speaking.

Here are some pertinent items:
- 128 MB memory
- most recent 17* iOS.
- current voice is Alex
- running DEXCOM G7
- VoiceOver sounds (clicks, etc.) are clearly audible
- have executed 3-finger double-tap to no effect.
- have rebooted several times to no effect
- triple press on physical home button clearly toggles VoiceOver

Can anyone advise as how to restore iOS via a Mac/iCloud backup?



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RE: Voice over and iOS 18

[Sieghard Weitzel]

After some pretty annoying stuff throughout the Beta which in many cases didn’t 
apply to a lot of people, either, iOS 18 now is very good and while I can’t 
speak for Braille features since I use neither Braille input nor any Braille 
displays, if you just use Voiceover with speech there is no reason I can think 
of not to upgrade.

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2024 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice over and iOS 18

I've noticed no issues with the iPadOS beta on my mini 6.
Jonathan Mosen has a 2.5 hour podcast on Living Blindfully about iOS 18, and I 
strongly expect that Applevis.com will have a lot about it in their blog on 
Monday when the site goes live again.



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On Sep 7, 2024, at 11:38 AM, James Lockwood  wrote:
Anyone know how iOS 18 is with voiceover? Any major voiceover issues that 
people have noticed with the final beta release?

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RE: Problem Pairing My Shokz OpenRun Bluetooth Headphones To My iPhone 15

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You could also see if there is a factory reset option for the OpenRun and try 
that.
If that and rebooting your iPhone still does not work, a final step I would do 
is to go to Settings > General > Transfer or Reset iPhone > Reset, then tap on 
“Reset Network Settings”.
This will often clear up such issues. Keep in mind that it will disconnect you 
from any Wi-Fi networks and you will have to reconnect including entering your 
Wi-Fi password.
Doing this will also rename your iPhone from whatever it was to simply 
“iPhone”. This can be easily fixed, just go to Settings > General > About, tap 
on the name field at the top and rename it to whatever you want it to be.

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 9:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem Pairing My Shokz OpenRun Bluetooth Headphones To My iPhone 
15

Assuming the old phone is no longer in your home and it is still thinking it is 
connected to the Shokz, I'd turn off bluetooth on your new phone. Reboot the 
phone. Put the Shokz into pairing mode.
Open the bluetooth settings on the phone and see if it shows up and double tap 
on it.
It should connect.
If not, I'd call Apple Accessibility.



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On Sep 6, 2024, at 7:35 PM, Tali Sarnetzky  wrote:

Hi everyone.

I got an iPhone 15 about three months ago and everything is great. The only 
problem I have is with my Bluetooth headphones, Shokz OpenRun. No matter what I 
try, I cannot pair them with the phone. They worked great with my previous 
phone, iPhone SE2020.

I'd appreciate any advice.

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.

Tali

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RE: smaller phones

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not this year and even the expected iPhone SE 4th generation will now be a 
larger phone most likely similar to a regular iPhone 16.
There are rumours about an iPhone 17 Air or iPhone 17 Slim or whatever Apple 
will call it a year from now, but whether this phone will actually be much 
smaller or simply a thinner phone nobody knows.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
Jordan
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: smaller phones

Just wondering if anyone has heard any rumors about a new mini type phone.  I 
really like the size of my 13 mini.  Just curious.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Let’s forget that nobody knows all the specs because Apple has not even 
announced the phone and while many rumoured specs nowadays are typically 
correct, there may still be a surprise here and there.
Once the iPhone 16 series phones are introduced on Monday we can possibly be 
even more sure since the iPhone SE which follows typically has the same inners, 
e.g. CPU, RAM etc. than what the iPhone 16 will have, but even then exact 
screen size, camera specs and so on are still not known until the phone is 
announced.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 5:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

The iPhone SE 4 will be an awesome phone. I heard all the specs on a couple 
youtube videos. The price is really good considering all that you get.
Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!


On Sep 6, 2024, at 5:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

It will also have a much larger screen and while I am not saying battery life 
may not be better, nobody knows what it is until Apple provides this 
information next week.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

Not much at all.  The SE four is absolutely worth the upgrade if you have an SE 
3.  You will get apple intelligence which alone makes it worth it.  Never mind 
the better battery etc.  the battery in the SE 4 is more than double in size to 
what is in the SE 3.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 4:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

Does anybody know how much taller and wider this s E 4 will be compared to the 
S E 3?
I know that the screen size goes from 4.7 inches to 6.1 inches but is this a 
diagonal measurement or a measurement from top to bottom.  And, I am especially 
interested in the with.

Many thanks,
James B

James B


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 2:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

As it will be a larger phone with Face Id I highly doubt it will have a home 
button.
You may as well get used to it as this is the way the technology is going and I 
would actually not want a home button any more even if I had the option as I 
find the gestures much more intuitive and easy.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ron 
Canazzi
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 11:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

Hi Group,

I have both the second and third generation iPhone Se models. Not that I 
couldn't get used to operating without a home key, but I do like the idea that 
the SE versions still have a home key. Will the SE 4 have one?
On 9/6/2024 1:20 AM, Dennis Long wrote:
I will say unless you need the pro features this is going to be a wonderful 
phone.  There was another mac rumors article Battery in the iPhone 14 is 4279 
ma in the iPhone 15 pro it is 4290 MA.  That is not enough of a thing that you 
will notice.  Its 12 milliamp.   It is rumored the iPhone 14 battery will be 
what you get in the SE 4.  So if you get that or better again this phone will 
work for most people.
When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch
Thursday September 5, 2024 2:19 pm PDT by Joe 
Rossignol<https://www.macrumors.com/author/joe-rossignol/>
Over two and a half years have passed since Apple released the current iPhone 
SE, so the device is due for an update. Below, we recap the latest rumors about 
the next-generation iPhone SE, including potential features and launch timing.

Timing
The latest word comes from Bloomberg's Mark 
Gurman<https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-08-25/apple-plans-tabletop-robot-while-exploring-mobile-bots-and-humanoid-machines-m09kawex>.
 In his Power On 
newsletter<https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-08-25/apple-plans-tabletop-robot-while-exploring-mobile-bots-and-humanoid-machines-m09kawex>
 last month, he said he expects the next iPhone SE to launch in the spring of 
2025. All three existing iPhone SE models were announced in March over the 
years, so it seems likely that the fourth-generation model will also be 
introduced in March next year.
Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo and the technology publication The Information also 
previously claimed that the next iPhone SE will launch in the first quarter of 
2025<https://www.macrumors.com/2024/07/24/kuo-iphone-se-4-thin-iphone-17-apple-5g-chip/>,
 so that timeframe has been corroborated by mu

RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It will also have a much larger screen and while I am not saying battery life 
may not be better, nobody knows what it is until Apple provides this 
information next week.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

Not much at all.  The SE four is absolutely worth the upgrade if you have an SE 
3.  You will get apple intelligence which alone makes it worth it.  Never mind 
the better battery etc.  the battery in the SE 4 is more than double in size to 
what is in the SE 3.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 4:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

Does anybody know how much taller and wider this s E 4 will be compared to the 
S E 3?
I know that the screen size goes from 4.7 inches to 6.1 inches but is this a 
diagonal measurement or a measurement from top to bottom.  And, I am especially 
interested in the with.

Many thanks,
James B

James B


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 2:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

As it will be a larger phone with Face Id I highly doubt it will have a home 
button.
You may as well get used to it as this is the way the technology is going and I 
would actually not want a home button any more even if I had the option as I 
find the gestures much more intuitive and easy.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ron 
Canazzi
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 11:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

Hi Group,

I have both the second and third generation iPhone Se models. Not that I 
couldn't get used to operating without a home key, but I do like the idea that 
the SE versions still have a home key. Will the SE 4 have one?
On 9/6/2024 1:20 AM, Dennis Long wrote:
I will say unless you need the pro features this is going to be a wonderful 
phone.  There was another mac rumors article Battery in the iPhone 14 is 4279 
ma in the iPhone 15 pro it is 4290 MA.  That is not enough of a thing that you 
will notice.  Its 12 milliamp.   It is rumored the iPhone 14 battery will be 
what you get in the SE 4.  So if you get that or better again this phone will 
work for most people.
When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch
Thursday September 5, 2024 2:19 pm PDT by Joe 
Rossignol<https://www.macrumors.com/author/joe-rossignol/>
Over two and a half years have passed since Apple released the current iPhone 
SE, so the device is due for an update. Below, we recap the latest rumors about 
the next-generation iPhone SE, including potential features and launch timing.
[iPhone SE 4 Thumb 1]
Timing
The latest word comes from Bloomberg's Mark 
Gurman<https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-08-25/apple-plans-tabletop-robot-while-exploring-mobile-bots-and-humanoid-machines-m09kawex>.
 In his Power On 
newsletter<https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-08-25/apple-plans-tabletop-robot-while-exploring-mobile-bots-and-humanoid-machines-m09kawex>
 last month, he said he expects the next iPhone SE to launch in the spring of 
2025. All three existing iPhone SE models were announced in March over the 
years, so it seems likely that the fourth-generation model will also be 
introduced in March next year.
Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo and the technology publication The Information also 
previously claimed that the next iPhone SE will launch in the first quarter of 
2025<https://www.macrumors.com/2024/07/24/kuo-iphone-se-4-thin-iphone-17-apple-5g-chip/>,
 so that timeframe has been corroborated by multiple sources. The Information 
said that Apple suppliers would begin ramping up mass production of the device 
in 
October<https://www.macrumors.com/2024/07/23/iphone-se-4-october-production-report/>.
Features
The current iPhone SE starts at $429 in the U.S. with 64GB of storage and 4GB 
of RAM. The device's key features include a 4.7-inch LCD display, A15 Bionic 
chip, Touch ID, 5G support with a Qualcomm chip, a single 12-megapixel rear 
camera, and a Lightning port.
The next iPhone SE is rumored to have an iPhone 14-like design with the 
following features:

  *   6.1-inch OLED display
  *   A18 chip
  *   Face ID
  *   USB-C port
  *   Action button
  *   Apple-designed 5G chip
  *   A single 48-megapixel rear camera
  *   8GB of RAM for Apple Intelligence
Gurman believes the next iPhone SE will likely be priced in the $400 to $500 
range, so the device would remain a lower-cost option in Apple's 

RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You’ll know for sure next week. It’s likely to be similar in size to what a 
current iPhone 11, 12, 13, 14 or 15 is, but that is just a guess.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 5:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

I was concerned that the I Phone S E 4 might be too big and clunky.  But, these 
measurements are just a tiny bit bigger than my S E 3.

Thanks,
James B


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 6:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch


The SE 3 is:
2.65 inches wide, 5.45 inches high, 0.29 inches thick, and weighs 5.1 ounces..

The iPhone 14, which is 6.1 inches, the same as the SE 4 will be is:
2.82 inches wide, 5.78 inches high, 0.31 inches thick, and weigh 6.1 ounces..

Hope this helps.

Chris Chaffin

Follow me on Mastodon:
@chrischaffin@dragonscave.space


On Sep 6, 2024, at 4:53 AM, James Bentley 
mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Does anybody know how much taller and wider this s E 4 will be compared to the 
S E 3?
I know that the screen size goes from 4.7 inches to 6.1 inches but is this a 
diagonal measurement or a measurement from top to bottom.  And, I am especially 
interested in the with.

Many thanks,
James B

James B


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 2:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

As it will be a larger phone with Face Id I highly doubt it will have a home 
button.
You may as well get used to it as this is the way the technology is going and I 
would actually not want a home button any more even if I had the option as I 
find the gestures much more intuitive and easy.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ron 
Canazzi
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 11:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

Hi Group,

I have both the second and third generation iPhone Se models. Not that I 
couldn't get used to operating without a home key, but I do like the idea that 
the SE versions still have a home key. Will the SE 4 have one?

On 9/6/2024 1:20 AM, Dennis Long wrote:
I will say unless you need the pro features this is going to be a wonderful 
phone.  There was another mac rumors article Battery in the iPhone 14 is 4279 
ma in the iPhone 15 pro it is 4290 MA.  That is not enough of a thing that you 
will notice.  Its 12 milliamp.   It is rumored the iPhone 14 battery will be 
what you get in the SE 4.  So if you get that or better again this phone will 
work for most people.
When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch
Thursday September 5, 2024 2:19 pm PDT by Joe 
Rossignol<https://www.macrumors.com/author/joe-rossignol/>
Over two and a half years have passed since Apple released the current iPhone 
SE, so the device is due for an update. Below, we recap the latest rumors about 
the next-generation iPhone SE, including potential features and launch timing.

Timing
The latest word comes from Bloomberg's Mark 
Gurman<https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-08-25/apple-plans-tabletop-robot-while-exploring-mobile-bots-and-humanoid-machines-m09kawex>.
 In his Power On 
newsletter<https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-08-25/apple-plans-tabletop-robot-while-exploring-mobile-bots-and-humanoid-machines-m09kawex>
 last month, he said he expects the next iPhone SE to launch in the spring of 
2025. All three existing iPhone SE models were announced in March over the 
years, so it seems likely that the fourth-generation model will also be 
introduced in March next year.
Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo and the technology publication The Information also 
previously claimed that the next iPhone SE will launch in the first quarter of 
2025<https://www.macrumors.com/2024/07/24/kuo-iphone-se-4-thin-iphone-17-apple-5g-chip/>,
 so that timeframe has been corroborated by multiple sources. The Information 
said that Apple suppliers would begin ramping up mass production of the device 
in 
October<https://www.macrumors.com/2024/07/23/iphone-se-4-october-production-report/>.
Features
The current iPhone SE starts at $429 in the U.S. with 64GB of storage and 4GB 
of RAM. The device's key features include a 4.7-inch LCD display, A15 Bionic 
chip, Touch ID, 5G support with a Qualcomm chip, a single 12-megapixel rear 
camera, and a Lightning port.
The next iPhone SE is rumored to have an iPhone 14-like design with the 
following features:

  1.  6.1-inch OLED display
  2.  A18 chip
  3.  Face ID
  4.  USB-C port
  5.  Action b

RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As it will be a larger phone with Face Id I highly doubt it will have a home 
button.
You may as well get used to it as this is the way the technology is going and I 
would actually not want a home button any more even if I had the option as I 
find the gestures much more intuitive and easy.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ron 
Canazzi
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 11:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

Hi Group,

I have both the second and third generation iPhone Se models. Not that I 
couldn't get used to operating without a home key, but I do like the idea that 
the SE versions still have a home key. Will the SE 4 have one?


On 9/6/2024 1:20 AM, Dennis Long wrote:
I will say unless you need the pro features this is going to be a wonderful 
phone.  There was another mac rumors article Battery in the iPhone 14 is 4279 
ma in the iPhone 15 pro it is 4290 MA.  That is not enough of a thing that you 
will notice.  Its 12 milliamp.   It is rumored the iPhone 14 battery will be 
what you get in the SE 4.  So if you get that or better again this phone will 
work for most people.
When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch
Thursday September 5, 2024 2:19 pm PDT by Joe 
Rossignol
Over two and a half years have passed since Apple released the current iPhone 
SE, so the device is due for an update. Below, we recap the latest rumors about 
the next-generation iPhone SE, including potential features and launch timing.
[iPhone SE 4 Thumb 1]
Timing
The latest word comes from Bloomberg's Mark 
Gurman.
 In his Power On 
newsletter
 last month, he said he expects the next iPhone SE to launch in the spring of 
2025. All three existing iPhone SE models were announced in March over the 
years, so it seems likely that the fourth-generation model will also be 
introduced in March next year.
Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo and the technology publication The Information also 
previously claimed that the next iPhone SE will launch in the first quarter of 
2025,
 so that timeframe has been corroborated by multiple sources. The Information 
said that Apple suppliers would begin ramping up mass production of the device 
in 
October.
Features
The current iPhone SE starts at $429 in the U.S. with 64GB of storage and 4GB 
of RAM. The device's key features include a 4.7-inch LCD display, A15 Bionic 
chip, Touch ID, 5G support with a Qualcomm chip, a single 12-megapixel rear 
camera, and a Lightning port.
The next iPhone SE is rumored to have an iPhone 14-like design with the 
following features:

  *   6.1-inch OLED display
  *   A18 chip
  *   Face ID
  *   USB-C port
  *   Action button
  *   Apple-designed 5G chip
  *   A single 48-megapixel rear camera
  *   8GB of RAM for Apple Intelligence
Gurman believes the next iPhone SE will likely be priced in the $400 to $500 
range, so the device would remain a lower-cost option in Apple's smartphone 
lineup, despite gaining a larger display and a more modern set of features.
Update — September 2024:
Japanese publication Nikkei Asia has since also 
reported
 that the iPhone SE 4 with an OLED display will be released in 2025.

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/05/when-to-expect-iphone-se-4/

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RE: voice memos question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

App Library is another area where she can look for it.
If it’s not directly on one of her home screens then it’s most likely in a 
folder.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chela 
Robles
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voice memos question

Hello Paula, yes it comes native with all the iPhones. Just tell your flute 
teacher to ask Siri to open Voice Memos and it should open up right away.
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 5, 2024, at 11:15 AM, Paula Jordan  wrote:

Hi all.  I’m taking flute lessons over zoom and wanted my teacher to record a 
piece of music using voice memos and send it to me.  She’s not able to find the 
voice memos app on her 15 pro.  I thought that app was native to the iphone.  
Is that right? Is there another free recording app that would allow her to 
record and send the recording as a text message like you can with voice memos?  
Any thoughts are welcome.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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RE: Inconsistency with Text Messages

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I wonder if that has to do with the provider, I don’t recall ever not getting a 
text message somebody sent to me within seconds.

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 8:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Inconsistency with Text Messages

Do those friends have Android phones?
I ask, because when a friend sends me texts from their android phone, sometimes 
it takes several hours to show up, and I think a time or two it doesn't show up.
Hopefully that will get better soon.


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On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:44 AM, Sandra Finley  wrote:

Lately I  have found several occasions when people have asked if ai got their 
text and I had to say no. At the same time, I was getting other texts. How 
could that be?
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RE: Page orientation in Seeing AI

[Sieghard Weitzel]

In the SeeingAI app you can get this information, but only if you use the 
Document channel and not the Short Text channel.
1. Scan your page with the Document channel
2. After the picture was taken and the text has been recognized tap the "More" 
button at the top right of the screen
3. On the next screen you have the following options:
Page Info
Rescan current page
Delete current page
Delete all pages
Cancel
4. Tap on Page Info and you will hear if the original scan orientation is right 
side up, upside down, rotated right or rotated left.

It would be nice to get this information without having to go throug these 
steps, e.g. tap More and tap Page Information. I haven't had time to suggest to 
Microsoft to maybe add a setting option that this would be spoken at the 
beginning of the scan results without having to tap anything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
Samco
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Page orientation in Seeing AI

In these situations I cover some portion of the page with a blank page, for 
example 50%, and scan. If I get the beginning of the text then I know the top 
of the page has the text showing.
HTH,
Jeff

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 6:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Page orientation in Seeing AI

I just turned a page upside down and tried scanning with Seeing AI, Envision 
AI, Prizmo Go, VDScan and all of them just read the text without telling me 
which direction the text was positioned.



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On Sep 2, 2024, at 5:41 PM, Shirley Tracy 
mailto:shirleytrac...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Unless things have changed, I've always been able to read the document which 
ever way is right side up. But I was never able to learn the orientation. 
However, I'm no expert.

Regards,

Shirley Tracy

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Bill 
Gallik mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 1:58 PM
To: viPhone 📩 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Page orientation in Seeing AI

Carl et al,

I’m surprised the page was read when presented upside-down.  Whenever I’ve 
presented a page upside-down I’ve been informed as such and asked to turn the 
page around.



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On Sep 2, 2024, at 12:49 PM, mailto:k...@axistech.net>> 
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The other day I was using Seeing AI to read some printed index cards and I 
realized I didn’t know if the text was right side up or not. Is there a way to 
get this information? Just now I tried a document I knew was upside down and it 
read it fine. I tapped on Ask Seeing AI and asked if the page was right side up 
and it said that information wasn’t available in the document.

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RE: Restore iPhone via iCloud Backup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Also, do you have any Bluetooth speakers or headsets you use? Make sure one of 
them hasn't gotten turned on so Voiceover might be coming through it and you 
don't notice it. It has happened to me with my Sleep Phones where I had them in 
my backpack and they turned themselves on because the button got pushed inside 
the pack and I was wondering why I didn't get anything out of my iPhone. If 
that is a possibility pressing and holding the side button and asking Siri to 
turn off Bluetooth would be a way to make sure this is not the problem.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2024 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Restore iPhone via iCloud Backup

Or plug in a wired headset to see if you hear anything.

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 6:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Restore iPhone via iCloud Backup

Before you try that. Have you tried doing a two finger flick up and then 
quickly tapping the up volume to see if you hear VoiceOver getting lder? The 
volume may just be all the way down. Also, have you tried doing this with 
headphones plugged in?



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On Sep 2, 2024, at 5:47 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:

I have a serious problem with my iPhone SE 3, VoiceOver is not speaking.

Here are some pertinent items:
- 128 MB memory
- most recent 17* iOS.
- current voice is Alex
- running DEXCOM G7
- VoiceOver sounds (clicks, etc.) are clearly audible
- have executed 3-finger double-tap to no effect.
- have rebooted several times to no effect
- triple press on physical home button clearly toggles VoiceOver

Can anyone advise as how to restore iOS via a Mac/iCloud backup?



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RE: Recent strange behaviour with my Apple Watch Series 7.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Almost sounds like maybe the side button is stuck?

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Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Recent strange behaviour with my Apple Watch Series 7.

Hello,

I have an Apple Watch Series 7 running watchOS Version 11.0 (22R5348a).

Recently it has been behaving rather oddly.

For no apparent reason the watch will bring up the power off screen, and double 
tapping Cancel dismisses that screen only to reappear seconds later.

If I press the Digital Crown rather than bringing up the list of apps on the 
watch it too brings up the power off screen.

Has anyone ever experienced such an issue and if so how did you resolve it?

I have reset the watch, restored from a backup and set it up as a new device 
but periodically the issue described above will reoccur.

If it’s a hardware problem as I suspect it is than an upgrade later this month 
may be my wisest choice.
Malcolm Parfitt

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RE: Restore iPhone via iCloud Backup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Or plug in a wired headset to see if you hear anything.

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 6:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Restore iPhone via iCloud Backup

Before you try that. Have you tried doing a two finger flick up and then 
quickly tapping the up volume to see if you hear VoiceOver getting lder? The 
volume may just be all the way down. Also, have you tried doing this with 
headphones plugged in?



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On Sep 2, 2024, at 5:47 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:

I have a serious problem with my iPhone SE 3, VoiceOver is not speaking.

Here are some pertinent items:
- 128 MB memory
- most recent 17* iOS.
- current voice is Alex
- running DEXCOM G7
- VoiceOver sounds (clicks, etc.) are clearly audible
- have executed 3-finger double-tap to no effect.
- have rebooted several times to no effect
- triple press on physical home button clearly toggles VoiceOver

Can anyone advise as how to restore iOS via a Mac/iCloud backup?



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RE: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There might be a way to enter a code instead of scanning a barcode, you just 
have to try it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2024 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?

Hi, group.
My computer does not have monitor attached to it, can I still use WhatsApp on 
my computer? Thanks!
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2024, at 8:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> And yes, you go to the Microsoft Store and press Control + E to go to the 
> search field, type in Whatsapp and press enter, then tab until you find the 
> download button.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: h.begum99 via VIPhone 
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 8:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Hi, this sounds really good, I didn't know you could link devices for 
> WhatsApp. So what do you have to do at the windows end? I clicked link device 
> on the se22 but it didn't setup WhatsApp on the computer, presumably you have 
> to download WhatsApp on to the computer first, where do you get that from for 
> windows 11? Having WhatsApp on the computer will make it easier to delete 
> text as at the moment it takes ages to delete anything more than a couple of 
> words on the phone.
> 
> Thanks, Husna
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: 29 August 2024 23:11
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?
> 
> If you are trying to link for example a computer so you can use Whatsapp on 
> the comuter, you should never have to go to the code scanner.
> All you do is open Whatsapp on your iPhone, tap on the "Settings" tab at the 
> bottom right and then tap on "Link Devices", once that opens just point your 
> iPhone to the computer screen from a couple of feet away and it should pick 
> up the QR code and complete the setup process on the computer.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> lang...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 8:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?
> 
> Hi,
> I found the code scanner in Control Center.  My understanding is that QR 
> codes are similar to bar codes, but much more versatile. I've tried to use 
> code scanner on food packaging such as a box containing a Trader Joe's frozen 
> food item, but I'm having a hell of a time finding where the QR code might 
> be. I've had about as much luck trying to find bar codes with Seeing AI or 
> the Envision app. What's the easiest way to locate a QR code and how far away 
> or close does the camera need to be? Does it make a difference if the text on 
> the package is sideways or upside down?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rob 
> Armstrong
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 6:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?
> 
> Swipe through the control center carefully.  The app is called Code Scanner.  
> 
> Rob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
> Brandt
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 8:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?
> 
> I have an SE two, I can’t find QR scanner in the control center, and didn’t 
> see it under  camera options.
> 
> On Aug 27, 2024, at 4:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> It's called the Camera or you can use the QR Code Scanner which you can put 
> into control centre. It's not an app, just a feature you can have showing 
> there.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
> Reyes
> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 3:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?
> 
> is there a specific app that is accessible for scanning QR codes, and if so, 
> what is it called?
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 18, 2024, at 1:15 PM, Rob Armstrong  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You first need to open the QR code reader on your phone.  I expect the QR 
>> code reader will default to use the back facing camera on your phone.
>> 
>> After you start the QR code reader on your phone, very slowly move your 
>> phone around holding yo

RE: Voice recognition and the rotor

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It is not available on the iPhone 8 since that phone does not have the 
processing power for this feature.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2024 6:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice recognition and the rotor

Speaking of screen, recognition is it available on an iPhone 8 running iOS 16 I 
couldn't seem to find it when I looked for it a little while back

> On Sep 1, 2024, at 9:46 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is no Voice Recognition item on the rotor in iOS 17.6.1 or earlier.
> 
> Are you talking about Screen Recognition?
> If so that is an on/off item that is only to be used if an app is not reading 
> correctly with VoiceOver, and may or may not help.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tony 
> Sweeney
> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2024 4:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Voice recognition and the rotor
> 
> Hi folk,
> 
> I was under the impression that one could add Voice recognition to the rotor 
> but it doesn't appear to work for me.
> 
> I go in to the rotor in settings, and add (select) voice recognition in there 
> but when I do the action with my thumb and index finger in a programme voice 
> recognition is not showing although everything else I selected does.
> 
> Can anyone throw any light on this pls?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tony in Dublin Ireland
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RE: Voice recognition and the rotor

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, you can definitely add it to the rotor since I have done so. Where are 
when you check, if you are simply on your home screen it won't be there since 
the system is smart enough to know that it is not needed there, you have to be 
in an app before you see it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tony 
Sweeney
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2024 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice recognition and the rotor

You are correct Richard screen recognition is what I meant to write.

So you can't add it to the rotor then?

Thanks,

Tony

On 01/09/2024 14:46, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:
> There is no Voice Recognition item on the rotor in iOS 17.6.1 or earlier.
>
> Are you talking about Screen Recognition?
> If so that is an on/off item that is only to be used if an app is not reading 
> correctly with VoiceOver, and may or may not help.
>
>
>
>   Richard, USA
> "INTROVERTS UNITE ...
> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tony 
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> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2024 4:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Voice recognition and the rotor
>
> Hi folk,
>
> I was under the impression that one could add Voice recognition to the rotor 
> but it doesn't appear to work for me.
>
> I go in to the rotor in settings, and add (select) voice recognition in there 
> but when I do the action with my thumb and index finger in a programme voice 
> recognition is not showing although everything else I selected does.
>
> Can anyone throw any light on this pls?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony in Dublin Ireland
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RE: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best iPhones of all time: Macworld

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There is talk about an "iPhone Slim" next year when the iPhone 17 is released, 
but as this is still a long time ahead who knows. And even if such a phone is 
released, who knows if it will actually be much smaller; the fact is that if 
you need a new phone then at this point you simply have to deal with the size. 
I never liked having a phone in my jeans pocket, not even the my first phone 
which was the iPhone 4 which had a 3.5 inch screen. I prefer a hip case/holster 
for my iPhone.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2024 10:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best 
iPhones of all time: Macworld

Yes, there's that, but at the same time, my Iphone 8 currently fits nicely in 
the little  pocket on the inside of my purse, and a taller phone won't do so 
which will be really inconvenient for me.

On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 1:28 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
And yet it's amazing how little difference in many ways there is between say a 
5S and an iPhone 13 Pro considering the screen size went from 4 inches on the 
5S to 6.1 inches on the 13 Pro, a full 50% increase.
Here is length, width and thickness:
iPhone 5S: 123.8 x 58.6  146.7 x 71.5 x 7.7 mm and 204 gramsx 7.6 mm
iPhone 13 Pro:  146.7 x 71.5 x 7.7 mm
The iPhone 13 Pro is 22.9mm longer which is the biggest difference, but still 
that is less than 1 inch.
The difference in width is only 12.9mm which is just a touch over half an inch 
and the thickness being 1mm more for the iPhone 13 Pro is so negligible that 
you wouldn't notice it unless you had both phones lying next to each other.
I actually find the extra screen size makes typing and all that much easier.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2024 7:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best 
iPhones of all time: Macworld

I really like my iPhone 8 and I will miss it when it is gone but I also really 
really liked the 5S that I had. I liked how small it was. I'm not looking 
forward to getting a much bigger phone.

On Aug 31, 2024, at 12:58 AM, Michael Irons 
mailto:theleo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My favorite iPhone was my iPhone 6 and my second favorite was my iPhone 4S.
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 30, 2024, at 11:49 PM, M. Taylor 
mailto:markthew...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes.

My favorite phone of them all was my beloved iPhone 8 Plus.

My second favorite was my iPhone 4 / 4S.

Mark
On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:33:37 AM UTC-7 Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I don't quite agree with this list, while the 6 and 6 Plus were the first 
larger phones, I think the 6S and 6S Plus as the second generation of that form 
factor so to speak were much better phones.
Although, I think the iPhone 4S which was the first phone to feature Siri 
should have been in this list.
I would definitely

From: VIPhone mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2024 8:57 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best iPhones 
of all time: Macworld

Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best iPhones of all 
time
With a new model around the corner, here are our favorite models over the past 
17 years.
By Mahmoud Itani
AUG 29, 2024

With almost every iPhone launch, Apple states how its latest flagship is the 
best it has ever created. While the company undoubtedly enhances its smartphone 
line with every annual upgrade, not all of its releases have been equally 
impactful. With the iPhone 16 debut less than two weeks away, it’s time to walk 
down memory lane and highlight the seven best iPhone models yet.

7. iPhone 5s (2013)
The iPhone 5s will always have a special place in my heart. For starters, it 
was the very first mainstream smartphone to feature a chip with a 64-bit 
architecture. At the time, many perceived the A7 chipset as overkill due to the 
simple phone tasks. Nevertheless, the shift pushed the industry forward and 
influenced Android phone makers, which followed suit soon after.

Speaking of green-bubbled devices, the iPhone 5s was also one of the first 
phones to feature a reliable fingerprint scanner. Back then, many Android 
phones prompted people to swipe on the sensor to authenticate, and they simply 
weren’t as dependable. Touch ID, on the other hand, required iPhone users to 
simply rest their fingertips on it, et voilà!
Beyond the performance, the iPhone 5s design is a timeless masterpiece that 
Apple repurposed with its initial iPhone SE release. It was the first iPhone to 
offer three finishes after years of being limited to a single color or two. It 

RE: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best iPhones of all time: Macworld

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And yet it's amazing how little difference in many ways there is between say a 
5S and an iPhone 13 Pro considering the screen size went from 4 inches on the 
5S to 6.1 inches on the 13 Pro, a full 50% increase.
Here is length, width and thickness:
iPhone 5S: 123.8 x 58.6  146.7 x 71.5 x 7.7 mm and 204 gramsx 7.6 mm
iPhone 13 Pro:  146.7 x 71.5 x 7.7 mm
The iPhone 13 Pro is 22.9mm longer which is the biggest difference, but still 
that is less than 1 inch.
The difference in width is only 12.9mm which is just a touch over half an inch 
and the thickness being 1mm more for the iPhone 13 Pro is so negligible that 
you wouldn't notice it unless you had both phones lying next to each other.
I actually find the extra screen size makes typing and all that much easier.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2024 7:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best 
iPhones of all time: Macworld

I really like my iPhone 8 and I will miss it when it is gone but I also really 
really liked the 5S that I had. I liked how small it was. I'm not looking 
forward to getting a much bigger phone.


On Aug 31, 2024, at 12:58 AM, Michael Irons  wrote:
My favorite iPhone was my iPhone 6 and my second favorite was my iPhone 4S.
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 30, 2024, at 11:49 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
Yes.

My favorite phone of them all was my beloved iPhone 8 Plus.

My second favorite was my iPhone 4 / 4S.

Mark
On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:33:37 AM UTC-7 Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I don't quite agree with this list, while the 6 and 6 Plus were the first 
larger phones, I think the 6S and 6S Plus as the second generation of that form 
factor so to speak were much better phones.
Although, I think the iPhone 4S which was the first phone to feature Siri 
should have been in this list.
I would definitely

From: VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2024 8:57 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best iPhones 
of all time: Macworld

Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best iPhones of all 
time
With a new model around the corner, here are our favorite models over the past 
17 years.
By Mahmoud Itani
AUG 29, 2024

With almost every iPhone launch, Apple states how its latest flagship is the 
best it has ever created. While the company undoubtedly enhances its smartphone 
line with every annual upgrade, not all of its releases have been equally 
impactful. With the iPhone 16 debut less than two weeks away, it’s time to walk 
down memory lane and highlight the seven best iPhone models yet.

7. iPhone 5s (2013)
The iPhone 5s will always have a special place in my heart. For starters, it 
was the very first mainstream smartphone to feature a chip with a 64-bit 
architecture. At the time, many perceived the A7 chipset as overkill due to the 
simple phone tasks. Nevertheless, the shift pushed the industry forward and 
influenced Android phone makers, which followed suit soon after.

Speaking of green-bubbled devices, the iPhone 5s was also one of the first 
phones to feature a reliable fingerprint scanner. Back then, many Android 
phones prompted people to swipe on the sensor to authenticate, and they simply 
weren’t as dependable. Touch ID, on the other hand, required iPhone users to 
simply rest their fingertips on it, et voilà!
Beyond the performance, the iPhone 5s design is a timeless masterpiece that 
Apple repurposed with its initial iPhone SE release. It was the first iPhone to 
offer three finishes after years of being limited to a single color or two. It 
also was the last iPhone to offer a flat back, thanks to its bump-less rear 
camera. The iPhone 5s, in my opinion, was the epitome of smartphone design at 
the time. It was the result of extensive research and gradual improvements over 
the years. It also marked the end of a major iPhone era, as its successor 
changed the entire formula.

6. iPhone 6/6 Plus (2014)
A year after the iPhone 5s, it was time for Apple to think differently. The 
recipe was getting old, so it had to serve something completely new. The iPhone 
6 debuted as the thinnest Apple smartphone yet and the first to offer customers 
two size options. The 4-inch format as out, in favor of 4.7- and 5.5-inch 
models.

Despite the infamous “Bendgate,” fiasco the iPhone 6 attracted over 220 million 
customers, making it the best-selling smartphone to date. Its general design 
language continues to live on today through the iPhone SE 2.

5. iPhone 12 (2020)
By the time the iPhone 12 came around, the iPhone X was already three years old 
and in need of a refresh. The iPhone 12 delivered it, with a new design and 
host of new features that belied its status as an entry-level phone.

After the iPhone XR and iPhone 11 were somewhat disappointing compared to their 
Pro counterparts, the iPhone 12 got it right. Among the upgrade

RE: sharing a pdf document with be my ai?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Guess it depends then if the PDF you shared maybe was readable in the first 
place. The PDF I tried to share was an image and Be My Eyes said it was not 
supported.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2024 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: sharing a pdf document with be my ai?

Actually, that is not true. I just shared a PDF file from my Files app with Be 
My ai Eye and it read it back to me so be my ai eye does read PDF documents.

> On Aug 30, 2024, at 11:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Go ahead and try it, you can share it with Be My Eyes, but nothing happens 
> since Be My AI does not support interpreting PDF files.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 12:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: sharing a pdf document with be my ai?
> 
> You open the PDF and then I believe at the bottom of the screen you should 
> see the option to share if it's not at the bottom, then it could be at the 
> top of the document somewhere you double tap share, and then swipe until you 
> find the option to either send or share with Be My Eyes double tap that and 
> you should be good to go. However, I would recommend you actually sharing it 
> with Kindle and having your Kindle App read it especially if it's a longer 
> manual.
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2024, at 7:27 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, so as the subject says, can or is there a way to share a pdf 
>> manual with be my ai so it can read me the manual? If so, how? Thanks.
>> O I'm on an iPhone 14-pro Lelia
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best iPhones of all time: Macworld

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I guess I am not that nostalgic, I like each new phone I have better than my 
old one because it's a little faster and usually has better battery life at 
least in the beginning and of course potentially new features.
I read quite a few articles in the tech publications where the authors think 
that next year is actually the year to upgrade because there will be more 
hardware changes with the iPhone 17 family than with the iPhone 16 family and 
they argue that many Apple Intelligence features will not be available until 
first or even second quarter of 2025 so then it will only be another 4 to 6 
months before the 2025 iPhones are released. They say it will be better to 
maybe look at the iPhone 15 Pro or Pro Max this year as they should be offered 
at some good deals and they can run Apple Intelligence.
Personally for me there is no generic recipe which applies here. Whether you 
want to upgrade in the first place or not all depends on what phone you have 
now, whether it's financially not too hard for you and if Apple Intelligence 
interests you; I have talked to a few people who think that this will be a 
reason to switch to Android but then of course I remind them that Google is 
hard at work to bring all these AI features to Android as well and in the end I 
still trust Apple more with my privacy than I do Google.
Personally I can't wait for Apple Intelligence when it will be much more 
efficient to do stuff with your voice and to have Chat GPT behind Siri and all 
that. My wife and I both have an iPhone 13 Pro whih we bought a year after the 
iPhone 13 was released because at that point the iPhone 14 had the same chip as 
the 13 Pro and the 14 Pro just didn't interst me as much so we did go the less 
expensive route and got the prior year's model. This year if I upgrade at all I 
don't think I'll get an iPhone 15 Pro because I have a feeling the rumoured 
camera button willb e very handy and I believe it is also rumoured that the 
action button can be programmed to do more than what it can do so far. Not yet 
having a phone with a USB-C connection for me is also a big deal, of course 
here the iPhone 15 Pro would fulfill that requirement, but I can't wait until 
all my devices are USB-C and once I have a new iPhone they almost will be. I 
can't emphasise enough how nice it is when travelling to have only USB-C 
devices. My Thinkpad T16 charges via USB-C and I have a little foldable travel 
2-in-1 MagSafe charger for my iPhone and Apple Watch, also my Creative 
Soundblaster headset I mostly use with my laptop is USB-C as is my Sleep Phone 
headset I use for in bed.
For power I have a very compact GAN travel wall adapter from Hyperjuice which 
has a fold-out plug. It is capable of 240 Watts output, 1 USB-C port with 140 
Watts and 1 with 100 Watts and 1 USB-A port, can't remember the max output, but 
the 2 USB-C are more than enough to power my laptop and my MagSafe charger and 
a UsB-A to USB-C cable can be used for a headset or other device. I also have a 
Hyperjuice external battery with 26,000 MAH capacity and it's has 4 USB-C ports 
with 2 of them putting out 100 Watts so I can even charge my laptop from that 
battery; it's heavy, but a nice thing to have on a longer trip.
This means 3 items, the wall adapter, the battery and the MagSafe charger and 
then I usually also bring 3 cables: 1 long USB-C cable, 1 shorter one and one 
6-foot multi-use cable from Amazon which can plug either into a USB-A or USB-C 
port and on the other end it is USB-C with attached adapters for Lightning and 
Micro USB. It makes for a very small electronics bag and I love it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 9:49 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best 
iPhones of all time: Macworld

Yes.

My favorite phone of them all was my beloved iPhone 8 Plus.

My second favorite was my iPhone 4 / 4S.

Mark
On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:33:37 AM UTC-7 Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I don't quite agree with this list, while the 6 and 6 Plus were the first 
larger phones, I think the 6S and 6S Plus as the second generation of that form 
factor so to speak were much better phones.
Although, I think the iPhone 4S which was the first phone to feature Siri 
should have been in this list.
I would definitely

From: VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2024 8:57 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best iPhones 
of all time: Macworld

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RE: Light Detector app gone?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I haven't had a land line for almost 20 years now, but I have always had home 
internet, first an ADSL connection from our phone company (that is via regular 
copper phone lines) and since February 2017 I had a fiber connections. At first 
I think only 100 Mbps download and 10 or 20 Mbps upload were available as the 
maximum, but by now the regional provider which put in the infrastructure here 
in our small town is offering Gigabit speed, but I don't think they yet offer 
speeds beyond that. As it's just my wife and I, there is no need for us to even 
have Gigabit speed, why pay more for something we don't need; it's not like any 
music or movie streaming works better once you get past a certain speed and I 
really don't care if I download a 1 Gb Audible book whether it takes 5 seconds 
or 15 seconds.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
Collins
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 10:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Light Detector app gone?

Oh, thanks much for the Seeing A I reminder! I had forgotten about that. I 
really will use that app quite often to tell whether the lights are on or off 
here in my apartment.

I've been with AT&T forever it seems, but when I moved back to Kentucky to be 
near the rest of my family after retiring from work, I found that they did not 
have internet service here, so I just went with the two cell phone lines but no 
home phone number or cable or internet. If I ever decide I want to change 
things and get home internet, although I'll likely not get another landline 
phone, Spectrum does provide high-speed internet service here.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 30, 2024, at 11:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I can't speak for the Light Detector app, but you could just use the Seeing AI 
app which has a Light Detector channel and of course it has all the other stuff.
May I ask why you choose to have 2 iPhones or actually 3 from the sound of it, 
but no Wi-Fi? Is there no fiber or cable internet service available where you 
live?
I have family who live in a very remote location of Northern British Columbia 
and for many years they used their phones and the hotspot feature to connect to 
the internet with laptop and so on, but they now all have Starlink because in 
my opinion you never get as seemless of an experience using an iPhone as a 
hotspot as you do if you have a high speed internet connection and a good 
router which can support both wired and wireless connections. And of course if 
you ever want to use things like an Apple TV or home automation devices like 
door locks, doorbell or security cameras, Wi-Fi enabled thermostats, switches 
etc. Wi-Fi is pretty much a requirement. I honestly could never even remotely 
see myself not wanting to have a fast fiber internet connection and a good 
router, in my case we use a Netgear Orby mesh router with 1 satellite and even 
though I bought it in October of 2018, almost 6 years ago, it has never failed 
or let me down. All my Sonos speakers and home automation devices are connected 
and are stable and rock solid. I have it set to do automatic firmware updates 
and probably only ever log into it a couple of times a year for whatever 
reason. Same applies to my business where I have the same router but the 
Pro/business model, also bought just about at the same time. It just works as 
Steve Jobs used to say.

Take care,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
vcollins5...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 7:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Light Detector app gone?

Have any of you tried to download the Light Detector app lately? With me here 
in the United States, I’m no longer able to get it from the app store, although 
I am still able to use it on two of my three iPhones.

When I couldn’t get any service on my iPhone 13 Mini on Tuesday, but I could 
get service on the 12 Mini, I somehow thought the problem was on my end and 
erased the 13 Mini and then restored it using the quick startup feature with my 
still working iPhone 12 Mini. Since all of my iPhones are set to be as much 
alike as their software will allow, I could do that. And while I still had no 
service on that iPhone after the first restore, I erased and tried again. And 
by that time, apparently AT&T had resolved the issue and I once again had 
service, but the Light Detector app just wasn’t available to me anymore. I was 
kind of surprised, though, as the app had indeed been available when I set up 
my iPhone 15 Pro in early June, but I was now told that the app was no longer 
available in the app store.

A couple of side notes here, just because. I still thought the problem was with 
my 13 Mini until I got a text message from AT&T today saying I would get a 
credit because of the outage on Tuesday. I then went and looked on the web and 
saw the story about the network issues on Tuesday.

Also, although I’m still using my two iPhone Mini phone

RE: How long would it take to download music to an iPhone?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think you are mixing up Wi-Fi and internet speeds. 200 Mbps sounds to me like 
the speed of your internet connection because even Wi-fi 5 allows devices to 
transmit data over the 5 GHz wireless frequency band at theoretical speeds of 
up to 3.5 Gbps.
That of course is theoretical as it says, realistic is 1 Gbps or a bit more and 
maybe a bit less if you are far away from your router. If you had Wi-Fi 6 that 
would go up, 6E it would go up even more and Wi-Fi 7 of course even much more, 
but then again hardly anybody has Wi-Fi 7 yet and only this year's iPhone 16 
Pro and Pro Max will have a Wi-Fi 7 modem and then of course you would need an 
appropriate Wi-Fi 7 router.

How are you planning to send your playlist to your iPhone? If it's a playlist 
you have on Apple Music and you want to "download" it then of course your 
internet speed would be the determining factor, otherwise you may have your 
playlist and songs on a computer in iTunes in which case you typically connect 
your iPhone with a cable although iTunes can connect to your iPhone via Wi-Fi, 
but while it's been quite a long time since I tried this, it was vwery slow 
that way. If it's on Apple Music which means in the cloud on Apple's servers 
and you want to download it. According to a search I just did, approx. 1 Gb is 
needed for 250 songs which in turn means 2,000 songs in normal M4A format will 
take up approx. 8 Gb.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How long would it take to download music to an iPhone?

Hi to all. On average how long would it take to download a playlist to an 
iPhone? My liked playlist is over 2000 songs and Ive got a 200 meg wifi 
connecttion. Thanks for any halp.
Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!

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RE: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And yes, you go to the Microsoft Store and press Control + E to go to the 
search field, type in Whatsapp and press enter, then tab until you find the 
download button.


-Original Message-
From: h.begum99 via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 8:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?

Hi,

Hi, this sounds really good, I didn't know you could link devices for WhatsApp. 
So what do you have to do at the windows end? I clicked link device on the se22 
but it didn't setup WhatsApp on the computer, presumably you have to download 
WhatsApp on to the computer first, where do you get that from for windows 11? 
Having WhatsApp on the computer will make it easier to delete text as at the 
moment it takes ages to delete anything more than a couple of words on the 
phone.

Thanks, Husna

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 29 August 2024 23:11
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?

If you are trying to link for example a computer so you can use Whatsapp on the 
comuter, you should never have to go to the code scanner.
All you do is open Whatsapp on your iPhone, tap on the "Settings" tab at the 
bottom right and then tap on "Link Devices", once that opens just point your 
iPhone to the computer screen from a couple of feet away and it should pick up 
the QR code and complete the setup process on the computer.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
lang...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?

Hi,
I found the code scanner in Control Center.  My understanding is that QR codes 
are similar to bar codes, but much more versatile. I've tried to use code 
scanner on food packaging such as a box containing a Trader Joe's frozen food 
item, but I'm having a hell of a time finding where the QR code might be. I've 
had about as much luck trying to find bar codes with Seeing AI or the Envision 
app. What's the easiest way to locate a QR code and how far away or close does 
the camera need to be? Does it make a difference if the text on the package is 
sideways or upside down?

Thanks, 
Tom 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rob 
Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?

Swipe through the control center carefully.  The app is called Code Scanner.  

Rob

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?

I have an SE two, I can’t find QR scanner in the control center, and didn’t see 
it under  camera options.

On Aug 27, 2024, at 4:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

It's called the Camera or you can use the QR Code Scanner which you can put 
into control centre. It's not an app, just a feature you can have showing there.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 3:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?

is there a specific app that is accessible for scanning QR codes, and if so, 
what is it called?
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 18, 2024, at 1:15 PM, Rob Armstrong  wrote:
> 
> You first need to open the QR code reader on your phone.  I expect the QR 
> code reader will default to use the back facing camera on your phone.
> 
> After you start the QR code reader on your phone, very slowly move your phone 
> around holding your phone about 12 inches above the device.  Hold your phone 
> level with the screen facing up which puts the back facing camera facing down 
> to scan the QR code.
> 
> Move the phone very slowly and stop moving it when the phone locates and 
> begins scanning the QR code.
> 
> Rob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
> Reyes
> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 12:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?
> 
> Hi all,
> I am trying to link an android tablet to WhatsApp to be a companion device to 
> my iPhone, but I can't seem to get the QR code to work. is there a specific 
> way I have to position my iPhone over the other device to capture the code?
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can just turn the rotor to text selection and then flick down to select by 
word, line or other units, then flick right and whatever text unit you selected 
will be highlighted for copying/deletion. For example, if you turn the rotor to 
text selection, then flick down to word and then flick right a few times, each 
time you do this a word will be selected. Once y ou selected all the words you 
want to delete, just press the deleete button.


-Original Message-
From: h.begum99 via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 8:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?

Hi,

Hi, this sounds really good, I didn't know you could link devices for WhatsApp. 
So what do you have to do at the windows end? I clicked link device on the se22 
but it didn't setup WhatsApp on the computer, presumably you have to download 
WhatsApp on to the computer first, where do you get that from for windows 11? 
Having WhatsApp on the computer will make it easier to delete text as at the 
moment it takes ages to delete anything more than a couple of words on the 
phone.

Thanks, Husna

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 29 August 2024 23:11
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?

If you are trying to link for example a computer so you can use Whatsapp on the 
comuter, you should never have to go to the code scanner.
All you do is open Whatsapp on your iPhone, tap on the "Settings" tab at the 
bottom right and then tap on "Link Devices", once that opens just point your 
iPhone to the computer screen from a couple of feet away and it should pick up 
the QR code and complete the setup process on the computer.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
lang...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?

Hi,
I found the code scanner in Control Center.  My understanding is that QR codes 
are similar to bar codes, but much more versatile. I've tried to use code 
scanner on food packaging such as a box containing a Trader Joe's frozen food 
item, but I'm having a hell of a time finding where the QR code might be. I've 
had about as much luck trying to find bar codes with Seeing AI or the Envision 
app. What's the easiest way to locate a QR code and how far away or close does 
the camera need to be? Does it make a difference if the text on the package is 
sideways or upside down?

Thanks, 
Tom 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rob 
Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?

Swipe through the control center carefully.  The app is called Code Scanner.  

Rob

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?

I have an SE two, I can’t find QR scanner in the control center, and didn’t see 
it under  camera options.

On Aug 27, 2024, at 4:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

It's called the Camera or you can use the QR Code Scanner which you can put 
into control centre. It's not an app, just a feature you can have showing there.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 3:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?

is there a specific app that is accessible for scanning QR codes, and if so, 
what is it called?
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 18, 2024, at 1:15 PM, Rob Armstrong  wrote:
> 
> You first need to open the QR code reader on your phone.  I expect the QR 
> code reader will default to use the back facing camera on your phone.
> 
> After you start the QR code reader on your phone, very slowly move your phone 
> around holding your phone about 12 inches above the device.  Hold your phone 
> level with the screen facing up which puts the back facing camera facing down 
> to scan the QR code.
> 
> Move the phone very slowly and stop moving it when the phone locates and 
> begins scanning the QR code.
> 
> Rob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
> Reyes
> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 12:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Advice on how to scan a WhatsApp QR code to link a device?
> 
> Hi all,
> I am trying to link an android tablet to WhatsApp to be a companion device to 
> my iPhone, but I can't seem to get the QR code to work. is there a specific 
> wa

RE: Light Detector app gone?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I can't speak for the Light Detector app, but you could just use the Seeing AI 
app which has a Light Detector channel and of course it has all the other stuff.
May I ask why you choose to have 2 iPhones or actually 3 from the sound of it, 
but no Wi-Fi? Is there no fiber or cable internet service available where you 
live?
I have family who live in a very remote location of Northern British Columbia 
and for many years they used their phones and the hotspot feature to connect to 
the internet with laptop and so on, but they now all have Starlink because in 
my opinion you never get as seemless of an experience using an iPhone as a 
hotspot as you do if you have a high speed internet connection and a good 
router which can support both wired and wireless connections. And of course if 
you ever want to use things like an Apple TV or home automation devices like 
door locks, doorbell or security cameras, Wi-Fi enabled thermostats, switches 
etc. Wi-Fi is pretty much a requirement. I honestly could never even remotely 
see myself not wanting to have a fast fiber internet connection and a good 
router, in my case we use a Netgear Orby mesh router with 1 satellite and even 
though I bought it in October of 2018, almost 6 years ago, it has never failed 
or let me down. All my Sonos speakers and home automation devices are connected 
and are stable and rock solid. I have it set to do automatic firmware updates 
and probably only ever log into it a couple of times a year for whatever 
reason. Same applies to my business where I have the same router but the 
Pro/business model, also bought just about at the same time. It just works as 
Steve Jobs used to say.

Take care,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
vcollins5...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 7:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Light Detector app gone?

Have any of you tried to download the Light Detector app lately? With me here 
in the United States, I’m no longer able to get it from the app store, although 
I am still able to use it on two of my three iPhones.

When I couldn’t get any service on my iPhone 13 Mini on Tuesday, but I could 
get service on the 12 Mini, I somehow thought the problem was on my end and 
erased the 13 Mini and then restored it using the quick startup feature with my 
still working iPhone 12 Mini. Since all of my iPhones are set to be as much 
alike as their software will allow, I could do that. And while I still had no 
service on that iPhone after the first restore, I erased and tried again. And 
by that time, apparently AT&T had resolved the issue and I once again had 
service, but the Light Detector app just wasn’t available to me anymore. I was 
kind of surprised, though, as the app had indeed been available when I set up 
my iPhone 15 Pro in early June, but I was now told that the app was no longer 
available in the app store.

A couple of side notes here, just because. I still thought the problem was with 
my 13 Mini until I got a text message from AT&T today saying I would get a 
credit because of the outage on Tuesday. I then went and looked on the web and 
saw the story about the network issues on Tuesday.

Also, although I’m still using my two iPhone Mini phones right now, my iPhone 
15 Pro is all set up and ready to go once my iPhone 12 Mini battery gets to 80% 
and I send it back to Apple for an Apple gift card. Both of my Mini phones are 
showing the battery at 81% right now, so maybe I should go ahead and put in 
that request before the new iPhones come out and the trade-in values get lower. 
And, grin, I’m thinking my 13 Mini will likely take its trip to Apple a little 
after Black Friday.

Oh, one more thing, while I’m at it. As to why I have two active iPhones 
instead of just the one, remember, I don’t have any separate internet or cable 
here, which is my choice, but that means that anything I do along those lines 
is done with my iPhone, whether it be streaming or personal hotspot or 
whatever. And since I use the iPhone for practically everything, just one won’t 
last me all day, thus I want to have an iPhone available to move around with me 
while the other one is charging.
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RE: sharing a pdf document with be my ai?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Go ahead and try it, you can share it with Be My Eyes, but nothing happens 
since Be My AI does not support interpreting PDF files.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: sharing a pdf document with be my ai?

You open the PDF and then I believe at the bottom of the screen you should see 
the option to share if it's not at the bottom, then it could be at the top of 
the document somewhere you double tap share, and then swipe until you find the 
option to either send or share with Be My Eyes double tap that and you should 
be good to go. However, I would recommend you actually sharing it with Kindle 
and having your Kindle App read it especially if it's a longer manual.

> On Aug 29, 2024, at 7:27 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, so as the subject says, can or is there a way to share a pdf 
> manual with be my ai so it can read me the manual? If so, how? Thanks.  
> O I'm on an iPhone 14-pro Lelia
> 
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RE: sharing a pdf document with be my ai?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I guess you could convert it to a JPG file using an online converter and then 
once it is in your photos app you can share it with Be My AI.
Interestingly enough, I just opened a PDF which I have on OneDrive on my iPhone 
and Be My Eyes is on the share sheet, but when I selected it I got a message 
that no image could be obtained or something along those lines.
With Kjaws Picture Smart it says "file format not supported" but then if you 
use Jaws you have Jaws OCR which often may give you a pretty good result as 
long as the document is not hand written or full of images/pictures or diagrams.

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2024 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: sharing a pdf document with be my ai?

No, not at this time. Whether it could in the future, time will tell, but I 
doubt it.


Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

(sent from my iPhone 13 pro)



On Aug 29, 2024, at 4:27 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
Hi all, so as the subject says, can or is there a way to share a pdf manual 
with be my ai so it can read me the manual? If so, how? Thanks.  O I'm on an 
iPhone 14-pro
Lelia

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RE: VO BUG RE: Preview of a change coming in iOS 18 for Audio Ducking and Volume

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Davy, I can use the app just fine and the sent button works fine for me as 
well, it's the switch to voice mode which seems to be a problem for me.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 7:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VO BUG RE: Preview of a change coming in iOS 18 for Audio Ducking 
and Volume

I am sorry this message is wrong it is about the chat gpt bug that can nolonger 
be used with voiceover.

Van: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Verzonden: vrijdag 30 augustus 2024 15:32
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: RE: VO BUG RE: Preview of a change coming in iOS 18 for Audio 
Ducking and Volume

What app are you talking about?


Richard, USA
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 6:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: VO BUG RE: Preview of a change coming in iOS 18 for Audio Ducking and 
Volume

Hi

The app on iphone can nolonger be used while the send button cannot be clicked 
with voiceover on, however on my ipad same version there is no problem at all.


Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Sieghard 
Weitzel
Verzonden: vrijdag 30 augustus 2024 0:06
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: RE: Preview of a change coming in iOS 18 for Audio Ducking and Volume

Audio ducking always worked fine for me in iOS 17 although I think it's better 
in iOS 18 since as Richard demonstraated, you can virtually silence other audio 
if you turn it all the way up to 199%.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Preview of a change coming in iOS 18 for Audio Ducking and Volume

I am using 17.6.1
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Aug 28, 2024, at 4:19 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Are you using the iOS beta 18?


Richard, USA
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Preview of a change coming in iOS 18 for Audio Ducking and Volume

Right now, audio ducking doesn't work at all when on a phone call. It had been 
a while since I tried it, but I just called an automated service that I could 
start talking, and got voice over to say something with audio ducking turned 
on. It didn't have any effect. If it had, it should have turned down the 
automated service talking as much as audio ducking would turn down the music or 
whatever normally. Let's hope they get audio ducking to work for phone calls, 
too.  I will always remember the day I found out that audio ducking didn't work 
for phone calls. They sent a code to me and wanted me to type it in. No problem 
except they started playing music while I was supposed to type in that code. I 
couldn't hearvoice over read that code because the music was too loud and audio 
ducking thidn't do anything about it.


Arnold Schmitt
,
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Aug 28, 2024, at 2:26 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Sample of new Audio Ducking and Volume settings in iOS 18
Below is about a 2 minute MP3 file demonstrating the effects of the new audio 
Ducking settings in iOS 18. The volume can be set up to 199% while Audio 
Ducking is on or set to While Speaking. That means that the volume of whatever 
is playing, music, phone menus at a bank, etc., or a book, will be lowered by 
roughly the amount the Volume is set to over 100%. I demonstrate what happens 
when the volume is set to 199%, 150% and 100% when music is playing.  I am 
using my iPad Mini 6 as since I don’t want to put betas on my iPhone in case 
there are serious issues.
AudioDuckingSample-Coming-In-iOS18.mp3<https://www.turner42.com/AudioDuckingSample-iOS18Beta.mp3>


Richard, USA
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