un...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
I was expecting you to chime in Tom :) Thats exactly what I'm talking
about and agree 100%. I cant figure out how $24.95 or even $29.95
works. But th
-
From: "Greg Ihnen"
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:07 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
> Are those MT AP's? Does RouterOS keep the bandwidth usage fair (everyone
> gets a piece)?
>
> Greg
>
> On Mar 25
l List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
> There is only one way to make money at $24.95, and that is to stop
> answering
> the phone. Setup a fancy website for self help everything. And customer
> is
> on their own.
> I'm all for Self-help as an OPTION, bu
n they want some help, they want one of those special help customer
> service desks like most Giant's have, they dont want to wait in line.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Origin
art of groceries.
> And when they want some help, they want one of those special help customer
> service desks like most Giant's have, they dont want to wait in line.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Bro
band
- Original Message -
From: "Scott Reed"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
> Your question has some of the answer in it. What do you want for ROI
> (return on investment) timin
al Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of MDK
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
Even if their model is not sustainable, and they're going to run out of
cash... If you
xed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: "Josh Luthman"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
Why do it...?
If TWC has customers why upgrade them and give them better speeds? I
doubt a signi
a little.My busiest is 37 clients, and we're working on
>>> transferring some off of it, as it's overloaded and some are having issues
>>> with watching video, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
+++
>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
>> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589
>> ++
>>
>> --
>> From: "Mike Hammett"
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:
ing video, etc.
>
>
>
>
>
> ++
> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589
> ++
>
> --------------
> From: "Mike Hammett"
> Sent: We
: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
> Have you run through the numbers to see if the $15.00 is a sustainable
> model? It seems like that is below cost or their break-even is years out.
> If that is the case, they will run out of cash at som
arch 24, 2010 9:48 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
> I don't see hwy AirMax, N-Streme, or whatever Star's equivalent of those
> two
> couldn't maintain 30 customers with big plans (not all using it at once,
> howev
.
-Jeff
"There is a difference"
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
Thats right and my point.
that $15.00 forever before doing
> anything with infrastructure.
>
> -Jeff
> "There is a difference"
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert West
> Sent: Thursday, March 2
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Jeff Ehman
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:50 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
Have you run through the numbers to see if the $15.00 is a sustainable model?
It seems like that
a difference"
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Robert West
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:58 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
And, interestingly enough
25, 2010 12:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
Time Warner is a nightmare for a number of reasons...
They are still running docsis 2 for goodness sake.
While Docsis 2 was a great step forward over 1 - running @ 6.4MHz -
allowing for some pretty
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of MDK
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:31 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>
> Yes,
it...
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to
1:29 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Interesting that Time Warner bursts the residential accounts,
>>>>> their
>>>>> Turbo
>>>>> service started out pretty consistent about 6 months ago with
>>>>> always
t;> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of RickG
>> Sent: Wednesday, M
;>>> 122.88 Mbit/s
>>>>> with 8 channels down and 4 upstream - Docsis 3 gives 343Mbit/s
>>>>> down
>>>>> and 122.88 up
>>>>>
>>>>> Now if Comcast can do it - why cant Time Warner?
>>>>>
>>>>
3 gives 343Mbit/s down
>>>> and 122.88 up
>>>>
>>>> Now if Comcast can do it - why cant Time Warner?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 24, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Interesting that Time Warner bursts the
always
>>>> being
>>>> 20+mbps. Now its "flakey" at best. One minute you run a speed test
>>>> and its
>>>> 22mbps, next test its 7mbps, all over the board now.
>>>>
>>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>>> WAVELINC
>>
run a speed test
>>> and its
>>> 22mbps, next test its 7mbps, all over the board now.
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>>
>>
--
From: "RickG"
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:20 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
> I'm thinking Ubiquiti Airmax can but I could be wrong?
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:31 PM, MDK wrote:
>> Yes, t
first 30 seconds, then they fall back to something like
>>> 1.5mbps.
>>>
>>> I asked myself the same question until I started to think about it,
>>> they
>> are
>>> bursting, I'm sure of it...
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
t; Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:25 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>
> They must. Not just wireless either. My Time Warner Tech says they
> burst all residential accounts.
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1
Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete wi
Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of MDK
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:31 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>
> Yes, they can, but only a few clients per acce
m: "Mike Hammett"
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:39 AM
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>
>> Mikrotik, StarOS, or UBNT could all deliver those speeds.
>&g
NC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
Yes, they
, Inc, Making internet easy
541-969-8200 509-386-4589
++
--
From: "Mike Hammett"
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:39 AM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
&g
hing, reality takes a back seat. That's marketing.
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:35 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete wi
ality standards with you. Apple
computers doesnt sell $298 laptops for a reason.
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:29 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compet
Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From: "RickG"
>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 8:19 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List"
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to c
ent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --
> From: "RickG"
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 8:19 PM
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>
>>
Not the
>>>> cheapest. Not the most expensive, either. What would 7 meg be in
>>>> your
>>>> area?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ++
>>>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
Was thinking of making it about 75 / mo. Not the
>>> cheapest. Not the most expensive, either. What would 7 meg be in your
>>> area?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ++
>>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet e
out 75 / mo. Not the
>>> cheapest. Not the most expensive, either. What would 7 meg be in your
>>> area?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ++
>>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
>>> 541-969-8200 509-386-4
What would 7 meg be in your
>> area?
>>
>>
>>
>> ++
>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
>> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589
>> ++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> --
>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser"
>> Sent: Sunday, Marc
drive,
it's $871/month to Equinix.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "Tom DeReggi"
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:47 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WIS
sday, March 17, 2010 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
Apparently your area's applicant is a jerk. :-p
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "Chuck Bartosch"
, in my opinion.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Bartosch"
To: ; "WISPA General List"
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
In my exper
+++
Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
541-969-8200 509-386-4589
++
--
From: "Charles N Wyble"
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:04 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete wit
.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------
>> From: "Chuck Bartosch"
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:31 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List"
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>>
>>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:31 PM
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>
>> But He.net isn't in Syracuse so that doesn't do me a whole lot of good.
>> They aren't in Binghamton either. Nor are they in Ro
0 11:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
Sometimes, but with chain stores the saving of groceries in cities helps
subsidize the higher shipping cost of groceries in rural areas.
Josh Luthman wrote:
Just a thought...but does the price of groceries inc
: "Chuck Bartosch"
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:31 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
> But He.net isn't in Syracuse so that doesn't do me a whole lot of good.
> They aren't in Binghamton either. Nor are they in Roc
Just saying there are $1.00 mbps providers available.
4.00 is pretty common as well.
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-Original Message-
From: Chuck Bartosch
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:31:14
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
But He.net isn'
will do $1 per Meg with 1 gig minimum commit.
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chuck Bartosch
> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:49:09
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>
> I can't
He.net will do $1 per Meg with 1 gig minimum commit.
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-Original Message-
From: Chuck Bartosch
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:49:09
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
I can't use a gig right now. However, to *get*
--
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --
> From: "Chuck Bartosch"
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:49 PM
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>
>> I can
elligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------
>> From: "Chuck Bartosch"
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:04 PM
>> To: ; "WISPA General List"
>> Subje
Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:49 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
> I can't use a gig right now. However, to *get* that gig would cost us
> $7000/month for a wavelength on one provider's new network. Suddenly the
> gig that
gt; -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --
> From: "Chuck Bartosch"
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:04 PM
> To: ; "WISPA General List"
> Subject
igent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "Chuck Bartosch"
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:04 PM
To: ; "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
> In my experience,
>
> (1) th
Chuck Bartosch wrote:
> In my experience,
>
> (1) the problem for rolling out to a new area IS NOT cost of backhaul, it's
> the cost of the equipment. Sure we all like cheaper backhaul, but it doesn't
> prevent a roll out to an unserved area. I'm sure there are exceptions to
> that-but they are
> From: "Kurt Fankhauser"
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:05 AM
> To: "'WISPA General List'"
> Subject: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>
> > Local phone company here just expanded their DSL coverage area and mailed
> > out fliers to
a website and let wisps vote?
>
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chuck Bartosch
> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:00:04
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>
> I think largely the middle mile fun
Fortunately we are close to the CLEC hotel...about 2 mile links using
Ceregon's and DragonWave for the connections and fail-over redundancy.
At the CLEC hotel we collocate some edge BGP routers and use OSPF in
the backbone for fail-over.
Bret
Tim Sylvester wrote:
Yup...we're running s
> Yup...we're running several wireless links (for redundancy) to a peering
> point (CLEC Hotel) then interconnect at that location to the Internet
> through various BGP interconnections with peer 1 and local CLEC's for
> short dollars. We found no issues with building management letting us
> put up
Charles N Wyble wrote:
> Interesting. Is the purpose of the wireless middle mile to reach a
> carrier neutral facility? Very intriguing. I've considered doing that
> here in Los Angeles. Back haul to One Wilshire or something. I have
> friends with gear on the mountains. Hmmm
>
Yup...we're r
Bret Clark wrote:
> Bingo...we have a winner! Middle mile means sqaut when there is a single
> provider who know they've got you by the you-know-what in terms of
> pricing.
Thank you Bret and Mike for making my point. :)
Yes there is fiber just about everywhere, but it comes down to
accessibil
Bingo...we have a winner! Middle mile means sqaut when there is a single
provider who know they've got you by the you-know-what in terms of
pricing. Then there is the finger pointing you have to deal with when
there is a problem...funny...for some reason's it's never their problem
initially unt
ty.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Chuck Bartosch"
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:00 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
> I think
l.com
--
From: "Robert West"
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:47 PM
To: ; "'WISPA General List'"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
> In my area the middle mile being built is exactly for institutions with a
> minor mention that they wo
...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of char...@knownelement.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
Citations needed?
I have seen many many many posts on this list discussing/complaining about
middle mile/back haul issues including access
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
I think largely the middle mile funds are wasted. Most areas already have at
least *some* fiber. The cost, and the problem, is in getting last mile done,
not middle mile done. From my direct experience and observation, a lot of the
middle mile projects
I think largely the middle mile funds are wasted. Most areas already have at
least *some* fiber. The cost, and the problem, is in getting last mile done,
not middle mile done. From my direct experience and observation, a lot of the
middle mile projects NTIA is funding is really for redundant fib
Sometimes, but with chain stores the saving of groceries in cities
helps subsidize the higher shipping cost of groceries in rural areas.
Josh Luthman wrote:
Just a thought...but does the price of groceries increase when you're
farther from an urban area? Obviously the costs are higher (mo
Just a thought...but does the price of groceries increase when you're
farther from an urban area? Obviously the costs are higher (more
trucker miles, less productivity) but I wonder if milk isn't another
$1 or something.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1
Exactly. That is what NewWays did. Our old plans on T1 or other
smaller pipe were:
384K $33.00
512K $45.00
Now that we have a 50M fiber to a tower our plans are:
1M $35.00
2M $48.00
Justin Wilson wrote:
> I think part of the issue is economies of scale. Many rural ISPs have
> T1s and T3s
This is why I have said that the stimulus dollars need to go to middle
milte build outs. Wireless as a last mile medium is very well understood
and gives best bang for the buck in a lot of scenarios.
Justin Wilson wrote:
> I think part of the issue is economies of scale. Many rural ISPs have
:59 -0400
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
For the WISP that is still charging $30+ for 384k service, what are you
doing to bring those customers more bang for their buck? Are you trying to
increase speeds or bring pricing down?
Richey
---
a.org] On
Behalf Of Richey
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:53 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
For the WISP that is still charging $30+ for 384k service, what are you
doing to bring those customers more bang for their buck? Are you
trying to
inc
AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
For the WISP that is still charging $30+ for 384k service, what are you
doing to bring those customers more bang for their buck? Are you
trying to
increase speeds or bring pricing down?
Richey
-Or
Behalf Of David E. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 07:41, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
> 6 Meg DSL here is around $50/month
>
>
At home, I have 6Mbps DSL for $35/month. (Yes, I work f
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 07:41, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
> 6 Meg DSL here is around $50/month
>
>
At home, I have 6Mbps DSL for $35/month. (Yes, I work for a WISP, but still
have DSL, because my last three apartments were out of my employer's
coverage area due to terrain and trees.)
WISPs rarely ca
List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
One of the things you have to keep in mind, is that you really do have to
offer your customers a decent value for their dollars.35 Bux for a
fraction of a meg is darn steep pricing these days. We offer a 300K for 25
and 2 meg for 38.50
I pay 70.00 a month for multiple static, 6mbps down/768 up.
Att dsl.
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-Original Message-
From: "MDK"
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:14:55
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
One of the things you have to ke
"'WISPA General List'"
Subject: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
> Local phone company here just expanded their DSL coverage area and mailed
> out fliers to everyone for $15 DSL. I see no mention of it being a
> promotional price. One person said as long as yo
less, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: "Kurt Fankhauser"
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:05 AM
Subject: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
> Local phone company here just expanded their DSL c
>> True... but we are also heavily discounting the installation (down to
>> free)... it's hard to make money if you do a free install, and then a
>> month later they get a DSL promo in the mail and switch. You have lost
>> about $200 on that one customer.
>>
>> And _every_ cell phone company in the
; wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I was wrong I guess the $15 is only for 12 months. Also looks like their
>>>>> $29.95 after the 12 months and there is probably taxes on that. We have
>>>>> been
>>>>> thinking of l
General List
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:05:28 -0400
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
Local phone company here just expanded their DSL coverage area and mailed
out fliers to everyone for $15 DSL. I see no mention of it being a
promotional price. One pers
u ask). One of my congressional staff
>> folks
>> told me that Century Tel gets 2/3rds of it's income from subsidies
>> of one
>> kind or another. Heck, that makes them a government agency, not a
>> private
>> phone company :-).
>>
>> de
Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 1:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
True... but we are also heavily discounting the installation (down to
free)... it's hard to make money if you do a free install, and then a
month later they get a DSL pro
u guys are pretty
>>>>
>>> cool!"
>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Kurt Fankhauser
>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I was wrong I guess the $15 is only f
heir
>>>> $29.95 after the 12 months and there is probably taxes on that. We have
>>>> been
>>>> thinking of lowering our price to the $29 range though.
>>>>
>>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>>> WAVELINC
>>>> P.O. Box 126
>>
ng our price to the $29 range though.
>> >>
>> >> Kurt Fankhauser
>> >> WAVELINC
>> >> P.O. Box 126
>> >> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> >> 419-562-6405
>> >> www.wavelinc.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >&g
ser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>
On 03/14/2010 11:05 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
> Local phone company here just expanded their DSL coverage area and mailed
> out fliers to everyone for $15 DSL. I see no mention of it being a
> promotional price. One person said as long as you have it they will not
> raise the rate from $15. Think
gh.
> >>
> >> Kurt Fankhauser
> >> WAVELINC
> >> P.O. Box 126
> >> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> >> 419-562-6405
> >> www.wavelinc.com
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wi
boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jayson Baker
>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:26 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>>
>> We offer something the telco never will...
>> A
yrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jayson Baker
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:26 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to
$15 DSL is typically, only half the story, the telco's make about
$50-$70 in phone line billing They are not selling $15 Naked DSL...
I believe the best counter to this is for the WISP, to strength's their
network and offer voice services
Nothing is a perfect solution, but also remember
, 2010 11:24 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
Hi Kurt,
What we decided to do a few years ago was let the residential users "go,"
basically. We knew we couldn't compete with the telcos/cable co.
increasingly lower prices so our sales g
2/3rds of it's income from subsidies of one
> kind or another. Heck, that makes them a government agency, not a private
> phone company :-).
>
> deep sigh
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kurt Fankhauser"
> To: "'WISPA Genera
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