Nick Roper wrote:
Hi,
A customer has requested that they should be able to navigate
between input fields on a form by using the Enter key - i.e. to
replicate the action of the Tab key.
I've seen examples of Javascript code to do this, but I'd be
interested in any feedback on whether there
programs use enter to move
between fields? It is actually quite common in very heavy data-
centric applications.
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On Feb 28, 2007, at 9:03 PM, Mike Brown wrote:
or even what makes a good usability consultant
Perhaps, but I think what makes for usability itself should be a
concern to us all. What are standards for after all? Is writing valid
code an end in itself, or a means to an end? As I see it, it
On Mar 7, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Designer wrote:
People who use Windows (= the majority) are always creating 'new
windows' on the PC - mail, browser, spreadsheet, help files,
opening files, saving them, printing them etc etc ad inf.
And this is different because . . . ?
Because they are, at
On Mar 7, 2007, at 11:19 PM, Ricky Onsman wrote:
Observational testing should be required practice for anyone building
websites, I would have thought, especially to explore the practical
applications of implementing standards (which for the record I am
keen on
but a long way from achieving).
On Mar 8, 2007, at 7:48 AM, Bob Schwartz wrote:
First a disclaimer:
This post does not reflect my personal views on web accessibility
or handicapped persons, it is merely a collection of academic
thoughts triggered by various posts of the past few days.
How and why did the web get
On Mar 10, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Designer wrote:
So I repeat : 20 items for sale would have to be:
Buy now,
Buy it now,
etc...
I may be late to the party with this, but I think what they're
looking for would be:
a href=LINK title=Buy TITLE 1 nowBuy Now/a
a href=LINK title=Buy TITLE 2 nowBuy
I agree w/ Paul + alt/title tags
Andrew
109B SE 4th Av
Gainesville
FL 32601
Cell: 352-870-6661
http://www.andrewmaben.com
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In a well designed user interface, the user should not need
instructions.
On Mar 17, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Paul Novitski wrote:
At 3/17/2007 07:27
On 22 May 2007, at 15:35:34, Jason Robb wrote:
The main reason I even considered a table is because the anchors
leave an empty space between the images.
This may be heresy, but I think this might be a perfectly legitimate
use of a (properly marked-up) table?
Andrew
109B SE 4th Av
On May 25, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Stephen Kelly wrote:
On 25/05/07, Stuart Foulstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since there are increasingly many different browsers/hardware/OS
all of
which will present your design differently, designers actively
styling
pages as they see fit are not
On May 29, 2007, at 9:26 AM, David Dorward wrote:
Because, in an HTML document, an XHTML style img tag unambiguously
means An image element followed by a greater than sign.
Sorry to be dense, I'm trying to grasp this concept. Does (at least
strictly speaking) the inclusion of a forward
On Jun 1, 2007, at 12:08 AM, Lea de Groot wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2007 22:31:28 -0500, Tim Offenstein wrote:
Anyone have a recommendation on what size screen to use as a baseline
when designing for a new site? 800x600 or 1024x768 or something else?
I do base designs for 1024, but I make sure
On Jun 1, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
Or, quit thinking like a print designer. Embrace the variability
that is a
browser viewport. Size relatively, which can work for 200x400 and
all the
way up as high as high gets.
With respect, I think this is a rather over simplistic
On Jun 7, 2007, at 6:16 PM, Nick Gleitzman wrote:
Nick Roper wrote:
Just to confirm, the recommendation from the agency is to replace
existing html content with PDF version, not to provide PDFs as an
additional alternative.
Nick, you've made it fairly clear that your question is about
On Jun 28, 2007, at 8:47 AM, Tony Crockford wrote:
Why is the company logo and strap line the most important thing on
every page of a web site.
OR - why does most important *thing* on the page have to correspond
to h1?
Take a newspaper: arguably the most important *thing* on the front
On Jul 10, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Paul Collins wrote:
form action=post
action=http://localhost/includes/redirect.php;; name=selectCourse
id=selectCourseForm
Should be : method=post NOT action=post
But I have to wonder why the need to use this method to form a purely
navigational function..?
On Jul 11, 2007, at 8:44 PM, Hassan Schroeder wrote:
..but seriously, I have *never* seen an ad for a Graphic Designer
(or worse, mislabeled Web Designer) that looked for anything but
Photoshop/Illustrator, possibly Flash, proficiency. Nothing about
BA/IA/UX/ID. Zip. Zed.
In my experience,
On Jul 24, 2007, at 1:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That way the customer doesn't go wondering thru the other website
and forget to come back to mine.
If you go to the mall, would you be happier if every store you
entered assigned a staff member to accompany you so you don't forget
to
On Aug 14, 2007, at 6:07 PM, Andrew Boyd wrote:
It is scary that people still make the distinction between “design”
and “usability/accessibility/fitness for purpose”.
Exactly! While “usability/accessibility/fitness for purpose” alone do
not define good design, good design *must* encompass
On Aug 14, 2007, at 6:14 PM, Philip Kiff wrote:
...you are not approaching the client-designer relationship in a way
that means the customer is always right. You are rather
approaching it
from a perspective that the customer does not know what is right...
The client is hiring you,
On Aug 22, 2007, at 1:00 PM, David Hucklesby wrote:
...all the gunk
with which Adobe products infest PNG files.
I may be mistaken here, but I think the gunk can be dispensed with
by using Save For Web rather than simply Save or Save As.
Although it may be gunk on the web, this information
I think there's more or less consensus that a calendar is tabular
data. For one month that seems fine: th for days of the week, td for
dates of the month (+ events on those days).
So what about an entire year? Is a table of tables permissible? Or
should one somehow cram all the information
Judge allows class action against Target Web site:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071003/wr_nm/target_blind_dc_4
This might advance the cause of standards and accessibility, one
might hope...
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On Oct 4, 2007, at 12:23 AM, Michael MD wrote:
Opening the door to yet more lawsuits...
In 2000, Bruce Maguire's accessibility complaint against the
Olympics.com website was upheld. Did this lead to a spate of
frivolous, discriminatory lawsuits in Australia? As none of the
advocates of
On Oct 4, 2007, at 1:01 AM, Michael MD wrote:
I think the best response to ignorance is education ... not
lawsuits...
But as Target chose to dismiss attempts at education? Obviously
education is preferable to recourse to law, but education sometimes
fails. That's how people end up in
What is baffling about Target's position here is that while on the
question of the web site they behave like ignorant trolls, meanwhile
they managed to really break ground in usability with their
prescription delivery system - http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/
On Oct 5, 2007, at 3:15 AM, Christie Mason wrote:
There are many ways to change a culture, but legislating is not one
of them.
I'm sorry, but I can't let that blatantly false statement go
unchallenged. History is full of examples of changes for the better
and for the worse brought about
On Oct 5, 2007, at 4:57 AM, Michael MD wrote:
If a company shuts down their website because they are being sued
does that make it more accessable?
Examples of this happening?
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On Oct 8, 2007, at 9:30 AM, Patrick Lauke wrote:
as in the long run, they'll ALWAYS be more trouble than they're worth
Yep. An old truism: the less they pay, the more they want.
But as to the cost of compliant, accessible HTML, does anyone *not*
find it quicker and easier (and hence
On Oct 8, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Designer wrote:
Look at the work he's produced : http://www.seftonphoto.co.uk.
sigh yes, I'm afraid you're right...
I've been hand-coding since the day I found Pagemill (remember
Pagemill?!?) wouldn't do what I wanted. And there's certainly a
learning curve
On Oct 17, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Rick Lecoat wrote:
can anyone tell me what is the best accessible way (if any) of
encoding
a mailto: link?
To answer a question w/ a question: I have started encoding email
address strings, but your question makes me wonder how accessible
this may be? How
On Oct 17, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Patrick Lauke wrote:
All that would take for a spambot is to do a two-pass: replace all
encoded entities, then scan the result for email-address-like
patterns. Trivial.
Thanks, Patrick - guess I'll abandon that effort...
Andrew
On Oct 18, 2007, at 4:19 PM, Dejan Kozina wrote:
Anybody (Mac Linux browsers...) wants to take a ride? The thing
is up
there at http://www.kozina.com/mailtest/ . Let us know of your
results.
worked for me: MacOS 10.4.9/Safari 2.0.4
Andrew
On Oct 26, 2007, at 9:21 AM, Michael Kear wrote:
Good lord I’m glad you don’t run my development process. Let
bloody debian fix their problem! Why should I have to spend MY
time fixing things because they don’t get it right???
... you are not fit to manage a commercial development
There was a note on Macintouch about this page:
http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/renew/renew_833.html
Safari 2.0.4 on Mac OS 10.4.10 shows a blank page, but viewing page
source is quite interesting - anyone care to comment?
Andrew
http://www.andrewmaben.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a
My point was not that there are environments in which it works, but
the fact that a government page is totally inaccessible in Safari
2.0.4 on Mac OS 10.4.10. The comments I'd hoped to provoke would
refer to the coding practices resulting in the interesting page
source vis a vis web
On Dec 14, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Michael Horowitz wrote:
...color combinations for use on the web.
These might help:
http://vandelaydesign.com/blog/design/find-the-perfect-colors-for-
your-website/
and of course don't forget colour blindness accessibility:
http://wickline.org/ref/colorlab/
On Dec 16, 2007, at 9:17 PM, Michael Horowitz wrote:
Ask yourself where have you ever seen government controlled
economies beat a free market one.
This is not about government CONTROL, but government REGULATION. And
no they are not the same thing.
But this is (supposed to be) a web
On Jan 8, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Why would we need to group containers together if it is not for
styling purpose?
Because we're saying that anything in the container belongs
together (thematically, content-wise, logically, etc).
On Jan 8, 2008, at 7:56 PM, Thierry
On Jan 9, 2008, at 12:58 AM, Steve Green wrote:
standards-compliant designers represent perhaps 1% of the industry
is this really the figure - any sources?
very depressing - and doesn't help those in a similar position to
mine - The Florida Library Association (of which our director was
On Jan 17, 2008, at 5:11 AM, Jamie Stewart wrote:
One is by using JavaScript, history.back() is what you will want to
use. If you don't want to use JavaScript it is possible through
code, well with .Net at least. You can easily access the
UrlRefferer which gives you the full URL of the
On Jan 29, 2008, at 7:38 PM, Casey Farrell wrote:
IE8 _will_ be the most popular web browser
it ain't necessarily so... first of all prevalent is not equivalent
to popular, but IE was not always the most prevalent browser, and is
once again losing some of the market share that it unfairly
On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:10 PM, Jermayn Parker wrote:
and then we will see the infamous pre-2000 days with websites reading:
This is best viewed using Internet Explorer 6
Would it be so bad if this was This site is best NOT viewed with
IE?? Come on - Let's not break the web - it's already
On Feb 15, 2008, at 6:52 AM, Matt Fellows wrote:
With no offense intended to the list moderators, I feel the
usefulness of this mailing list is diminishing due to an increase
in irrelevant and lazy postings.
...
Out on a limb here - does anybody else feel the same? If so, do you
have a
I'm almost done with a site redesign, and the time is right to ask
for your opinions: http://beta.www.aclib.us
for comparison, the current site is: http://www.aclib.us
I'm aiming for HTML 4.01 Strict compliance, and am periodically
running the W3C Validator, so no need to notify me of
that if there were no
glaring errors, that is in large part due to the invaluable tips and
hints I've picked up from careful daily reading of this list.
Thanks!
Andrew
On 2008/02/25 10:31 (GMT-0500) Andrew Maben apparently typed:
I'm almost done with a site redesign, and the time is right
On Mar 7, 2008, at 1:18 AM, Michael MD wrote:
when I look at the server logs here I still see almost as many IE6
users as IE7 users.
This prompted me to look back at our logs (US public library: 10
branches, about a million circulating items, and in a town with a
large state university
On Mar 20, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Kristine Cummins wrote:
showing in another language and/or foreign characters...
I don't know if this is applicable, but I was opening/closing fonts
on my Mac the other day to work on a project in Illustrator - to my
dismay, I found sections of various sites
On Mar 27, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Michael Horowitz wrote:
I can't imagine its better practice to replace it with javascript.
No, better practice is to avoid foisting new windows on users
altogether.
(IMHO - but I don't think I'm alone...)
Andrew
On Mar 27, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Rob Kirton wrote:
of course you are right there, however if the brief says so
I know, I know... sigh / I'm in the middle of half a dozen
conversations in which which I'm being commanded to make hideous
assaults on usability - but I do feel duty-bound in
On Mar 28, 2008, at 10:09 AM, Hassan Schroeder wrote:
Perhaps if you've never seen or used one, it's hard
to conceptualize, but they exist.
Ouch...
However if the subject is still opening new windows vis a vis the
target attribute, it seems to me hard to conceptualize a web app
that
On Mar 31, 2008, at 7:04 AM, Roberto Castaldo wrote:
If you look at an underlined text, what is your very first idea
about it?,
and they ALL answered: That's a really important text!!!
Strictly in the context of text, underlined text is a typographical
relative of the double-space
On Apr 7, 2008, at 8:10 AM, John Hancock wrote:
Please, please, please everyone.
Discuss web standards on the web standards group mailing list, and
my text/WYSIWY editor is better than yours on the HTML Editors
mailing list...
If there isn't one, feel free to set it up.
thanks,
Grumpy
On Apr 29, 2008, at 5:22 AM, James Jeffery wrote:
What developer on this planet is going to take advantage of a
feature thats been put into IE and not Mozilla?
Alas, all too many... can you say ActiveX? how about .NET?
Whatcha gonna do when boss/client demands some glitzy gizmo found on
On Apr 29, 2008, at 12:41 PM, Joseph Ortenzi wrote:
Most of what I've seen people put into ActiveX and .NET can be done
otherwise by clever developers and still be standards compliant or
at least, cross-browser-compliant.
If you need to write proprietary code that is browser specific you
I'm finding myself having to justify my work methods to a boss who
has almost zero interest in usability, accessibility or standards.
(Though I have managed to get into the long-term plan: ...website
that is compliant with W3C standards and Section 508...)
One question that has been raised
On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:17 AM, James Jeffery wrote:
could be the case when a user has JS enabled and not CSS
I'm having a hard time picturing the circumstances that would prompt
a user to choose this option - surely, if such a case does indeed
exist, it must rare as ... (pick your cliche).
On Apr 30, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Joseph Taylor wrote:
stick with HTML 4.01 Strict while the work is completed on (X)HTML5
IMHO (and given the depth and breadth of the replies to my original
post I'm feeling very humble right now, as well as extremely grateful
to you all) - I do think that
On May 2, 2008, at 1:04 AM, Andrew Harris wrote:
Been having problems with deciding on the best user interface for a
particular type of form input (for an intranet application).
When we have a list of values from which a user can select one or more
items, there are a couple of choices.
- we
On May 4, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Viable Design wrote:
W3Schools is not related to or sanctioned by the W3C.
and enjoys a certain notoriety for sometimes offering less-than-
perfect advice. though when I'm in a hurry I still find it a useful
resource as an aide memoire...
Andrew
On May 5, 2008, at 8:58 AM, McLaughlin, Gail wrote:
There are two people I know of in my company (over 100,000 people)
who can see the color red fine in the real world, but cannot read
red text , typically error messages, on a computer screen. They did
not know they had a problem until
On May 7, 2008, at 12:03 AM, Susie Gardner-Brown wrote:
people think it doesn’t matter what a site looks like as long as it
is accessible.
Sadly true. But in fact what a site looks like can have a huge
impact on its accessibility. I think that notion stems from a rather
misplaced notion
On May 12, 2008, at 9:58 PM, Laert Jansen wrote:
I can´t find out why that white area is showing on the top
Well, I'm pretty out of touch with Flash, but looking at your page
source I was struck by:
var so = new SWFObject(main.swf, main, 100%, 100%, 8,
#ff);
Could that #ff
On May 16, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Ian Chamberlain wrote:
Fingers crossed this is not too far off topic; being a newby to
PHP; any
clues where I can find how-to's, snippets, libraries or even
application
suites built from PHP that are built to a good minimum standard
please.
I am guessing
On May 21, 2008, at 3:44 AM, walied yossry wrote:
In such a situation, either the user(buyer) added something to the
shopping cart, and still wants to add some other stuff, we will
call this case A, or the user(buyer) just wanted this single item
case B.
I think in either case a user
On May 21, 2008, at 11:20 PM, Adam Martin wrote:
I have no success in selling accessibility when I try to find
clients, nobody buys it
Sadly, that's probably true enough. But usability is much easier to
sell - especially if framed in terms of you do want your customers
to be able to find
On May 27, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Andrew Freedman wrote:
kate provided the following information on 28/05/2008 5:21 AM:
The alt tag which is'nt really the right discription is really
called the attribute tag.
Kate
Patrick H. Lauke also provided the following information on
28/05/2008 5:33 AM:
On Jul 3, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Al Sparber wrote:
an irrational fear of scrollbars
When a block of text exceeds the viewport width, that means
horizontal scrolling for *each line* - a royal PITA.
If a right hand column falls outside the viewing area, it's not
unreasonable to assume that a
On Jul 9, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Ben Lau wrote:
I would like to know the best (or at least better and simple) way
to achieve this kind of design.
I have uploaded a sample design image for convenience: http://
www.hellobenlau.net/design.gif
Basically I need to have the lists at the bottom of
On Jul 21, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Keryx Web wrote:
All right. I will stop complaining about designing for the iPhone
and try to attack this from a positive angle.
I think designing for the iPhone is somewhat irrelevant, (but I'd
agree that iphone specific URLs are a scary throwback to the bad
On Aug 1, 2008, at 2:03 PM, David Fuller - magickweb wrote:
Ive had to work on macs in the past – I wouldn’t wish them on my
enemy – sorry Michael :P
And the relevance of this comment to the subject at hand, or web
standards in general, is what exactly?
Andrew
On Aug 5, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Joseph Ortenzi wrote:
Would I be considered rude if I asked you to continue this
particular thread off board?
Thanks, Joe. As you saw, I took it off the list once but David had to
bring it right back. It looks to me as if he just wants to annoy
people, so
the right to demand the keys and security codes of your office? I
don't think so! And how is this different?
Andrew Maben
http://www.andrewmaben.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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instructions
On Nov 13, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Brett Patterson wrote:
How do I get a form field to reset itself back to its default value
if the user has changed it?
I think it might help getting an answer if you could clarify exactly
what it is you are trying to achieve here, and why.
Andrew
On Nov 13, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Brett Patterson wrote:
Sorry, but no. If you look in FF3 it keeps the text entered in the
form field when page is refreshed the same. It does not remove it.
There are no code examples, and I have exhausted the library and
internet resources.
Well, forgive me
On Nov 24, 2008, at 12:13 AM, Andrew R wrote:
Can anyone give me some pointers, do have something that works in
your organsiation, etc?
I'm afraid I can't offer help, just let you know I'm another
companion in pain. This is a problem that seems to be almost
universal, in organizations
On Nov 24, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Kate wrote:
Wow! You hand code
For now, and I think, the foreseeable future, this is still the only
way available if you want to get it right...
...although its a long road
Yes it is! But worth it, and if you start simply, and follow the
excellent advice
On Nov 24, 2008, at 2:33 PM, Bruce wrote:
Hopefully this can get back on web standards topic...
...might be a good moment to remember a previous thread re: standards
and swf. I'm sorry not to remember who provided this link, but I've
found it invaluable:
On Nov 25, 2008, at 8:43 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
Of course, only HTML can be widely used, as long as XHTML isn't
supported by the most used browser.
I'm going to risk venturing an opinion here.
The high hopes that many of us may have had for XHTML as the wave of
the future seem, sadly,
Please, could I ask you to take this discussion off-list if you
want to continue. It's really degenerated to an unresolvable cycle of
I'm right, No, I'M right... When it just comes down to Use the
best available solution for the problem at hand
All compressed image file formats have
On Dec 3, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Stuart Foulstone wrote:
Accessibility is an extension of usability to include non-standard
ways of
browsing the web.
Complying with WCAG is step towards accessibility. Careful
consideration
has to be given how one applies WCAG meaningfully.
Research has shown
On Jan 8, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Adam Martin wrote:
but theft is theft, because someone else does it does not change
the law...
indeed...
but I'm losing track of what exactly this has to do with standards?
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On Jan 14, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Christie Mason wrote:
Well there goes that theory. My thoughts were something like
graphically oriented people are attracted to using Macs and Flash.
BCAT's attempting to make Flash accessible is good but if the
content hadn't been made inaccessible in the
On 16/1/09 16:41, Stewart Griffiths wrote:
Please can you provide feedback on the following website
http://webprocafe.com/
We are looking for thoughts on the design and usability of the site,
plus any general feedback you want to provide.
In the header I see Design, Development, Coffee
On Jan 29, 2009, at 1:40 PM, James Jeffery wrote:
Some people are rich because they are tight.
This has strayed a long way from standards...! But I just have to add
to the above. Having been the beneficiary of extraordinary acts of
kindness from truly poor (financially - but how rich in
On Feb 8, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Christian Montoya wrote:
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Ben Lau bensan...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
Are there any (seriously) bad implications of having empty DIVs
around your
HTML document?
No.
p.s. ignore all the long-winded answers.
Agreed.
Andrew
On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
Use Example A; you can make as visible as you like with CSS.
+1
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Use Example A; you can make as visible as you like with CSS.
+1
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Use Example A; you can make as visible as you like with CSS.
+1
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On Feb 24, 2009, at 7:28 AM, Nick Fitzsimons wrote:
the point is that it *behaves*
like a button. In other words its purpose is to provide a specific
kind of
functionality
and if I remember correctly, the functionality to be provided as
originally stated was a link to a next page. I'd
There seem to be some Microformats proponents on the list, but I
don't recall much mention of RDFa.
I wonder if anyone has any thoughts on their relative merits, both
immediately and in the longer term?
Thanks,
Andrew Maben
www.andrewmaben.net
and...@andrewmaben.com
In a well designed
to be models of tact and good judgement?
If you don't like a post - delete it and get on with your life. Thank
you.
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www.andrewmaben.net
and...@andrewmaben.com
In a well designed user interface, the user should not need
instructions.
P.S. Personally I feel the fact
stated arguments against doing it still stand.
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The argument continues to be shaky at best. ...compel a user... in
particular seems to display a fundamental misunderstanding of the
realities of the web as a medium.
I wonder if anyone knows of any user studies around this question: Is
this an often-requested feature? When available, is
On Mar 25, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote:
When you have a boss, you do as the boss says, like it or not.
Or quit, or be fired. Those are the options.
If you have not been hired for your expertise, yes. Otherwise you are
honor-bound to present the arguments, not just blindly obey -
I am not so arrogant as to even wish to speak for this list, but on
my own account I'll say that this question is disingenuous. Obviously
our work constantly involves balancing requirements. An important
part of that balancing act is to provide the benefit of our expertise
to stakeholders.
I am not so arrogant as to even wish to speak for this list, but on
my own account I'll say that this question is disingenuous. Obviously
our work constantly involves balancing requirements. An important
part of that balancing act is to provide the benefit of our expertise
to stakeholders.
Do you imagine that a condescending, not to say insulting, tone adds
weight to your arguments? If so, I'm sorry to disabuse you, but it
just makes a weak point weaker.
To address your argument, you appear (as does OP) to be confused as
to the context of user benefit, call to action. I find
On Mar 25, 2009, at 8:33 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote:
differentiation with
superior products or marketing
ROFL!
(sorry, Russ)
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