[Zen] Nonresistance is the key

2013-10-08 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
THE DREAMER AND THE DREAM Nonresistance is the key to the greatest power in the universe. Through it, consciousness (spirit) is freed form its imprisonment in form. Inner nonresistance to form – whatever is or happens – is a denial of the absolute reality of form. Resistance makes the world

[Zen] Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.

2013-09-26 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
WAR IS A MINDSET In certain cases, you may need to protect yourself or someone else from being harmed by another, but beware of making it your mission to “eradicate evil,” as you are likely to turn into the very thing you are fighting against. Fighting unconsciousness will draw you into

[Zen] Can I sense my essential identity as consciousness itself?

2013-09-26 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
BEYOND EGO: YOUR TRUE IDENTITY When the ego is at war, know that it is no more than an illusion that is fighting to survive. That illusion thinks it is you. It is not easy at first to be there as the witnessing Presence, especially when the ego is in survival mode or some emotional pattern from

[Zen] The Higher Good Beyond Good and Bad

2013-09-17 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
The Higher Good Beyond Good and Bad Is there a difference between happiness and inner peace? Yes. Happiness depends on conditions being perceived as positive; inner peace does not. Is it not possible to attract only positive conditions into our life? If our attitude and our thinking are always

[Zen] Stop pretending to be

2013-09-01 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
God Realization... ...comes on its own... ...after I stop pretending to be... ...self-reliant... ...The realization of Grace... ...comes on its own... ...after I stop pretending to be... ...'self'-reliant... ...The Gratitude for the Grace all around... ...comes on its own... ...after I stop

[Zen] Greatest enemy of ego is Life itself

2013-08-30 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
COMPLAINING AND RESENTMENT Complaining is one of the ego's favorite strategies for strengthening itself. Every complaint is a little story the mind makes up that you completely believe in. Whether you complain aloud or only in thought makes no difference. Some egos that perhaps don't have much

[Zen] FORGETFULNESS OF BEING

2013-08-28 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
FORGETFULNESS OF BEING Ego is always identification with form, seeking yourself and thereby losing yourself in some form. Forms are not just material objects and physical bodies. More fundamental than the external forms – things and bodies – are the thought forms that continuously arise in the

[Zen] I have, therefore I am.

2013-08-27 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
The ego tends to equate having with Being: I have, therefore I am. And the more I have, the more I am. The ego lives through comparison. How you are seen by others turns into how you see yourself. If everyone lived in a mansion or everyone was wealthy, your mansion or your wealth would no

[Zen] IDENTIFICATION WITH THE BODY

2013-08-27 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
IDENTIFICATION WITH THE BODY Apart from objects, another basic form of identification is with “my” body. Firstly, the body is male or female, and so the sense of being a man or woman takes up a significant part of most people's sense of self. Gender becomes identity. Identification with gender

[Zen] How “spiritual” you are has nothing to do with what you believe

2013-08-26 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
SPIRITUALITY AND RELIGION - ECKHART TOLLE What is the role of the established religions in the arising of the new consciousness? Many people are already aware of the difference between spirituality and religion. They realize that having a belief system a set of thoughts that you regard as the

[Zen] Do we need to become imprisoned in words and thoughts?

2013-08-26 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
EGO: THE CURRENT STATE OF HUMANITY - ECKHART TOLLE Words, no matter whether they are vocalized and made into sounds or remain unspoken as thoughts, can cast an almost hypnotic spell upon you. You easily lose yourself in them, become hypnotized into implicitly believing that when you have

[Zen] “Johnny is hungry.”

2013-08-26 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
THE ILLUSORY SELF - ECKHART TOLLE The word “I” embodies the greatest error and the deepest truth, depending on how it is used. In conventional usage, it is not only one of the most frequently used words in the language (together with the related words: “me,” “my,” “mine,” and “myself”) but also

[Zen] SOURCE OF STRESS

2013-08-26 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
... Thinking of future and future problems might create anxiety and stress. However, that is not when the stress really originates. Stress starts the moment you move away from now into the thought world of past and future. In moving away from now, you move away from life, you move away from

[Zen] Confession

2013-08-23 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Merle / Bill / Larry, Thanks for your good supportive words. But I need to admit one thing, that is the christian way of confession helps a lot. After I wrote that mail to zen forum, my mind got eased of at great amount. Being Truthful and honest brings ease of mind. Regarding my younger

[Zen] Evolve or die

2013-08-23 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
THE URGENCY OF TRANSFORMATION - ECKHART TOLLE When faced with a radical crisis, when the old way of being in the world, of interacting with each other and with the realm of nature doesn’t work anymore, when survival is threatened by seemingly insurmountable problems, an individual lifeform– or a

[Zen] Stillness Speaks.

2013-08-14 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear all, I was surprised on this sudden silence in this forum. I thought today while coming to office that have I been removed from this forum? why no mails are coming? let me check directly on yahoo group site. So then I opened the site and noticed that for last 7 days no activity at all in the

[Zen] The Mind

2013-08-14 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
The Mind - From Ramana Maharishi Q: How can the mind be made to go? M: No attempt should be made to destroy it. To think or wish is in itself a thought. If the thinker is sought, the thoughts will disappear. Q: Will they disappear by themselves? It seems so difficult. M: They will disappear

[Zen] Shoan and His Mother

2013-08-14 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Shoan and His Mother Shoun became a teacher of Soto Zen. When he was still a student his father passed away, leaving him to care for his old mother. Whenever Shoun went to a meditation hall he always took his mother with him. Since she accompanied him, when he visited monasteries he could not

[Zen] The Voice of Happiness

2013-08-14 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
The Voice of Happiness After Bankei had passed away, a blind man who lived near the master's temple told a friend: Since I am blind, I cannot watch a person's face, so I must judge his character by the sound of his voice. Ordinarily when I hear someone congratulate another upon his happiness or

[Zen] Fwd: [Iyer123] Why the Buddha was a Hindu -- Koenraad Elst

2013-08-02 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Sir, never has any of them been able to pinpoint an event in the Buddha's life which constituted a break-away from Hinduism. Read below Gautama first went to study with famous (Hindu) religious teachers of the day, and mastered the meditative attainments they taught. But he found that

[Zen] Similarities between Buddha and Mahavira

2013-08-02 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
The subject I liked recently The similarities between Buddhism and Jainism and Buddha and Mahavira are much more pronounced. No creator god There is no creator god in Jainism. There is no creator god in Buddhism. No creation myth There is no creation myth in Jainism, a first beginning is not

[Zen] Re: CONTRADICTORY STATEMENTS FROM RAMANA

2013-08-02 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear KG, Let me put my understanding on my own questions? Realized gurus answers are based on receivers as you so mentioned about different type of Metallurgy, and hence their answers will contradict if we look at it as if it is addressed to all as common. But it would have given great meaning

[Zen] Differences between Buddhism and pre-existing beliefs

2013-08-02 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
To have an idea of the differences between Buddhism and pre-existing beliefs and practices during this time, we can look into the Samaññaphala Sutta in the Digha Nikaya of the Pali Canon. In this sutra, a king of Magadha listed the teachings from many prominent and famous spiritual teachers

[Zen] Buddha View on Vedas

2013-08-02 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Vedas Buddhism does not deny that the Vedas in their true origin were sacred although have been amended repeatedly by certain Brahmins to secure their positions in society. The Buddha declared that the Veda in its true form was declared by Kashyapa to certain rishis, who by severe penances had

[Zen] Fwd: Right view on life is required

2013-07-31 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Sir, One should therefore maintain mental equanimity. One should remember that a life without a purpose and manliness is not worth living = Easy is to say (talk without thinking). Difficult is to (refrain the tongue) follow. What happens to you Sir? Why take a subject which is not your cup

[Zen] CONTRADICTORY STATEMENTS FROM RAMANA

2013-07-30 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear all, I have doubts on Ramana Teachings, can anyone clarify me on this? Read below the extract from A SADHU’S REMINISCENCES and NAAN YAAR (Who am I) - D: Will there not be

[Zen] There are not two minds - one good and the other evil

2013-07-30 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear all, The most delighted words of Ramana by me. - Without yielding to the doubt Is it possible, or not?, one should persistently hold on to the meditation on the Self. Even if one be

[Zen] INJUSTICE FOR AWAKENING

2013-07-29 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear all, Yesterday night I had a dream. I went with my family to some hill temple, there I parked my car and went inside the temple, and that temple appeared very strange way of architect. After worshipping we came to car there I saw back door of my car appeared broken and stuck to some glue

[Zen] Re: Is not coconut a miracle?

2013-07-25 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe, Thanks for comment. I do know about capillary action, but you yourself said that 10 meters high, would be the maximum height that one could pump water upwards in height, but here it is double and some trees are much more in height. To admire creation one need to be innocent, and that

[Zen] Humble, is it slavery?

2013-07-25 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear all, Can anyone define what is to be 'Humble'? Since sometimes back one of my old senior colleague advised me that whether you are right or wrong is not important, be humble, and humble since you have special children you need to be much more humbled. He used to be like my well-wisher. As

[Zen] Is not coconut a miracle?

2013-07-24 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear all, Probably people who are atheist or even theist may like to see a miracle happening. But what is miracle An event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of God. Yesterday after lunch from 6th floor I was watching a coconut

[Zen] Nobody manages the universe

2013-07-17 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Five Samaväya- (Five Causes)Introduction: Who is responsible for the actions taking place in this world? Hegel said it is history. Marx said it is system. Freud said it is sensual feelings and teachings of parents. Believers in God’s grace think that whatever happens, is as per God’s wish. They

[Zen] Re: CASE STUDY - SACKING A STAFF

2013-07-11 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Bill, Are you joking. It is not practical. I have given real situation happening in my company and I am also involved (BBB). So advice me real course of action. -- Thanks and best regards J.Suresh New No.3, Old No.7, Chamiers road - 1st Lane, Alwarpet, Chennai - 600018 Ph: 044 42030947

[Zen] Re: CASE STUDY - SACKING A STAFF

2013-07-11 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Good Point Bill. I liked it. I need to learn not to interfer in other's matters. Hope zen practice will help at this. -- Thanks and best regards J.Suresh New No.3, Old No.7, Chamiers road - 1st Lane, Alwarpet, Chennai - 600018 Ph: 044 42030947 Mobile: 91 9884071738

[Zen] CONDITIONING

2013-07-11 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear all, I have some thought came into my mind that each and every individual are so unique just like what you see each flower look different. It is so beautiful to see how people are so designed such unique way. Suppose we use Robots in a manufacturing company and let assume it is bolt nut

[Zen] CASE STUDY - SACKING A STAFF

2013-07-10 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear all, I am going to present you a case study and I request to give me your point of view and how a solution should be drawn. What Owner/MD should take decision, what HR has to do? Case

[Zen] I wanted to have her!...

2013-07-08 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear All, Yesterday I saw a beautiful girl, her name is Abin Nakshtra, she talks so lovely and sweetly. I wanted to have her!... ..as my daughter. She is around 6 years old, when my younger son finished playing glide, then I saw swirling chair getting emptied, I rushed with my younger son to

[Zen] Fwd: Self and Self Realization

2013-07-04 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe, can you comment on my below post to know how much I am correct. Brgds Suresh Dear Sirs, “That there is no path is true because what is the path between you and yourself” “Self is not different from self-realization. Self is self. If I don't know what that self is, how am I going to

[Zen] Fwd: It was like Shiva dancing in rage

2013-07-02 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe comments please for my below mail to other fourm member brgds Suresh Dear Sri.Shivasankara Rao, Yesterday night I saw your mail and Sri.Ram Mohan mail in my blackberry. Fearing not to get disturbed by your mails in the night, I did not read it. I was keep thinking whether in my mail,

[Zen] Fwd: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rage [2 Attachments]

2013-07-02 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
*[Attachment(s) from SURESH JAGADEESAN included below] Dear Joe, Please comment on my below mail to other forum member. Brgds Suresh Dear Sir, “If it is an error or judgment, then why does an educated / learned alert human being who is also alert makes an error?” The learned / educated alert

[Zen] Social responsibility

2013-06-30 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Sir, Yesterday evening I went to Semmozhi Poonga at around 5.PM in my bike with my two children, there not much two wheelers where there I parked at the very beginning of parking so that I can easily take out and leave. Then I went inside the park. My children played, there after for my

[Zen] A TERRIFYING LOOK AT THE CONTROL OF WEATHER WARFARE

2013-06-29 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
A TERRIFYING LOOK AT THE CONTROL OF WEATHER WARFARE -- A LOOK AT HAARP We shall take a basic look at the technology involved in controlling the weather. We shall try to take a simple look so you can understand a most complex scientific subject. The New World Order is coming! Are you ready? Once

[Zen] Re: It was like Shiva dancing in rage

2013-06-29 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Sri.Rajaram, “You never replied in those incidents how did you feel in those days, It happened in Ariyalur, sabarimala, Godavari boat, sri lanka, Somalia, Saudi Kabba, Chennai to KK beach and Indonasia etc tsunami.” Of course, first scared, worried, since I put my self in those situations

[Zen] Re: GOD (Generator, Organizer Destroyer).

2013-06-28 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
because TAT TVAM ASI. K r IRS On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:25 PM, SURESH JAGADEESAN varam...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Sri.Rajaram, “He went through the statistics, about 15 children were born in 10 hospitals, 8 female and 7 male infants, out of which 3 children had malnutrition defects, 2

[Zen] Attempts to deliberately steer the weather

2013-06-28 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
The unseasonal snow that fell on Beijing for 11 hours on Sunday was the earliest and heaviest there has been for years. It was also, China claims, man-made. By the end of last month, farmland in the already dry north of China was suffering badly due to drought. So on Saturday night China's

[Zen] A TERRIFYING LOOK AT THE CONTROL OF WEATHER WARFARE

2013-06-28 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
A TERRIFYING LOOK AT THE CONTROL OF WEATHER WARFARE -- A LOOK AT HAARP We shall take a basic look at the technology involved in controlling the weather. We shall try to take a simple look so you can understand a most complex scientific subject. The New World Order is coming! Are you ready? Once

[Zen] Karma analysed.

2013-06-28 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
This is not from me, but for discussing I am posting this, This is Indian version of karma Suresh Karma analysed. As per Bhagavadgita ch 4, Karma means the outward actions done in the pursuit of swadharma. Vikarma means total involvement of the mind therein. We may bow to somebody, but

[Zen] HAARP: Weapon of Mass Destruction [1 Attachment]

2013-06-28 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
*[Attachment(s) from SURESH JAGADEESAN included below] Dear all, Read attached article on HAARP, very interesting to learn Below is from wikipedia The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is an ionospheric research program jointly funded by the U.S. Air Force, the U.S. Navy

[Zen] WAS BUDDHA AN AVATHAARA OF VISHNU ?:

2013-06-28 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear all, This is not my article, but since it compares Buddha with Hindu god I thought let us see your view. Best regards Suresh WAS BUDDHA AN AVATHAARA OF VISHNU ?: The history of Sanatana dharma practically begins with the Rigveda. Here, we have the astonishing record of the progress of

[Zen] Awareness in you is god [2 Attachments]

2013-06-19 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
*[Attachment(s) from SURESH JAGADEESAN included below] Dear zen members, Sorry to bother you with my post in other forums. But if you have time you can read and comment whether I am right or wrong in my conclusions. best regards Suresh Dear

[Zen] Where is the god?

2013-06-19 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Shocking News == Rain toll rises to 131, over 73,000 stranded in north Casualties In Thousands, Dehradun/Shimla: Torrential rains continued to pour in bad news from north India on Tuesday, with flash floods, cloudbursts and landslips claiming

[Zen] Where is the god?

2013-06-19 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Forgive me, Again conversations of other forums. Since I like comments on these I am posting these. Suresh Dear Sir, Where is the order when a man rapes 3 year child? Where is the order when tamil women were raped by sinhalese soldiers just because they are tamil women? Where is the order in

[Zen] God

2013-06-14 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Sirs, For last few days. I was wondering whether there can be any god at all, I being born Hindu Brahmin, keep going to temples, and hearing all those discourses, Bhajans, etc., and wanted to see the god right in front of my eyes. But that did not happened so far. May be I might have

[Zen] The Book of Mirdad

2013-06-07 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
“I am able to see your confused mind many times” That is the very great skill you possess. I admire for that. “I am able to see” – Who are you? Did you find that out? If you say, “I am able”, which means you are now become able or now possessed that quality, previously you are “unable”, you

[Zen] Who is this non-dual Self? - Consciousness beyond the gross, subtle and causal bodies

2013-06-07 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
D - Disciple M - Ramana Maharishi D.: What is this path of enquiry? M.: From the sastras it is well-known to consist of sravana, manana, nidhidhyasana and samadhi i.e., hearing the Truth, reflection, meditation and Blissful Peace. The Vedas themselves declare it to be so. the Self must be

[Zen] The Book of Mirdad

2013-06-05 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
= The Book of Mirdad Quotes “Often you shall think your road impassable, sombre and companionless. Have will and plod along; and round each curve you shall find a new companion.” “Ask not of things to shed their veils. Unveil yourselves, and things

[Zen] Over words humans are separated

2013-06-05 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe and all, I saw discussion on 'soul' in the forum since I have mentioned it. I want to know how you describe that my experience or that female in the New science article, that seeing one's own body separate from the body? A formless I, the awareness seeing or aware of the body

[Zen] Re: New science is shedding light on what really happens during out-of-body experiences

2013-06-03 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe and all, This article “New science is shedding light on what really happens during out-of-body experiences” seems received a lot of responses from our members. After posting it on 25th, I went on tour in Interior Tamilnadu. Me and my wife’s first aim was to visit “Chtura Giri”, a hill

[Zen] Reverse of eightfold path

2013-05-21 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear all, This is to share my conversation in another forum. You can comment. -- Question: “God, Paramatma, is not going to question us why are we not doing a particular ritual , when we are true to our conscience.” Suresh: Only

[Zen] Honesty is the best policy.

2013-05-20 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Merle, Tips? For what? Is it to get rid of your fear? So it means you have accepted that you have fear, that much sincerity I appreciate. Unless one understands he has decease, he will not go to Doctor or start looking for remedies/treatment. So identifying one’s own disease itself is a

[Zen] Hanumanji submitted his Travel Allowance

2013-05-17 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Merle, Since you like joy of humour, I like to put down what I received in mail. You can laugh only when you know the story of “Ramayana” epic. A small introduction – a small part of Ramayana Hanuman is Monkey (god), a king of a small kingdom. He at once recognize when Rama approached his

[Zen] I say clean it, cure it , heal it.

2013-05-17 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Merle, Who wrote those words? Merle? Who is merle? Is body Merle? The body of course never claims its ownership, so it is not body. Then who else wrote those words.? Certainly it is mind or ‘thinker’. But is ‘thinker’ you merle? Where was thinker when you were born? Is it not the mere

[Zen] Thinker vs seer

2013-05-16 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Bill, The one who wrote the reply is ‘Thinker’, he is reactive, he respond to all stimulus from outside and inside. Or in Eckhart Tolle’s words, the continuous voice in your head, which commands you to do this or that is the ‘thinker’. The seer is seer. When thoughts or thinker is absent it

[Zen] “If you meet the Buddha on the road side kill him”,

2013-05-15 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear My zen friends, I was silent for 24 hours not to react to any mails. I am seeing heavy thunderstorm down pouring because of me in the forum. In my last mail to Bill I wrote on how to communicate without words, which I practiced now. But I wonder this forum members are

[Zen] Exercise your will power to be more serious to look yourself.

2013-05-15 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Merle, I did state many of my problems at my home early. And those problems are not solved yet. Please note children with Autism will not change, society need to accept. That is all. But this problem is nothing to do with my spirituality. In fact my problems are enhancers/boosters to

[Zen] Maya

2013-05-15 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Zen friends, I am putting down discussion on Maya happened on another forum and my response to it. = GOD is the Unknown because HE is beyond Mind Senses according to Upanishads GOD may be The TRUTH that is only a matter of FAITH The

[Zen] Re: if you meet the buddha kill the buddha

2013-05-13 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Bill, The arguments got twisted here from the main subject that is from the view point of Mr.Charles what it is If you come across the Buddha - Kill him. That is the cleverness of the mind by not sticking to the core subject and kept on deviating from that subject. If you pin

[Zen] Re: Dogen's words on a True Teacher, and Practice

2013-05-10 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Charles, You have quoted If you come across the Buddha - Kill him - How do you know person across you is a Buddha? In case you have capability to recognise that he is Buddha, who gave you this perception? Again it has to be a Buddha? It is like you want to kill your own mother, How come you

[Zen] HAPPINESS

2013-05-05 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Pardon me for posting what I discussed in other forum. But I thought I can discuss the same here in this forum among you all to get more clarification on the subject. Dear Sir, In your post on Happiness I have following queries. “But then in the next instant, we may want something else, or we

[Zen] Does sky requires liberation?

2013-04-04 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe, Who is the thinker? Who is thinking and writing. Why does he think? Even though at times he realizes that thought engulf him or he become thoughts or he was totally possessed by thoughts and he is not aware of presence around. He sees that thoughts keep moving one after the other, then

Re: [Zen] Digest Number 3900 *

2013-03-22 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear all In this forum, I feel only Bill is more sane and write decently and clearly. or in others words he appealed to my mind more easily. The eightfold path of Budhha is simply be vigilant or alert in all your actions mental as well as physical. When this is followed one will realise that I

[Zen] Re: What is Enlighetnment? a cold salty pool

2013-03-22 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear all In this forum, I feel only Bill is more sane and write decently and clearly. or in others words he appealed to my mind more easily. The eightfold path of Budhha is simply be vigilant or alert in all your actions mental as well as physical. When this is followed one will realise that I

[Zen] Re: Is it not time to stop this ? ANSWER

2013-03-11 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe, “Are you quoting from someone again, or does the flow of questioning that you write constitute the sequence of your own thoughts and concerns?” Those are my own words. I am cornered to answer like this. Who am I? “I” am vast consciousness like sky and contain all within me. So

[Zen] when there is imbalance of dharma, a self-realized person is created

2013-03-11 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe, Again below are conversation with other forum members. Please note these are 'my=Suresh' words and not of others. Q: “is there a particular poise from which a self-realized person participates in normal activities, fully involving his mind and body?” A: Zen Masters are this category.

[Zen] Divine is not in any design or in any concept

2013-03-11 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
( I am posting my personnel conversation with Mr.Sukumaran on his permission, so that it may have some benefit for others. If not please aplogise) Dear Sir, Who you are? What you are? Where do you live? What you do? All these do not matter to me. If you are interested in divine (not any

[Zen] God proves that whatever brain thinks will not happen

2013-03-11 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
+0800 (SGT) Subject: Re: Is it not time to stop this ? ANSWER To: SURESH JAGADEESAN varam...@gmail.com Dear Sir, Once again, thank you for the detailed and apt response. I have now taken your help to clarify some of my misgivings.Is it not one of the ways to learn from others? So when the suggestion

[Zen] Is it not time to stop this ? ANSWER

2013-03-08 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe, Do you think I own any words? Do you think there can be any 'my' opinion? I own nothing no words and hence no opinion. Below are questions of other forum members to this my answers are ... Q: “If self-realization is an awareness, is it an experience?” A: Self-realization is not

[Zen] Approach is not required but it is immediate.

2013-03-07 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe, When we have integrated approach, why not integrate all other religions as well. Why in that there is difference of opinion in many members of this forum? Ramana Maharishi used to state that if you want to know whether any guru is truly enlightened, then on his presence one will feel

[Zen] ZEN

2013-03-05 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
The small word `zen' contains the whole evolution of religious consciousness. It also represents freedom from religious organizations, from priesthood, from any kind of theology, from God. This small word can bring fire to your being. Zen is the very essence of all religions, without their stupid

[Zen] “Man made God in his own image...”

2013-02-27 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
FROM ECKHART TOLLE The past has no power over the present moment.” “Some changes look negative on the surface but you will soon realize that space is being created in your life for something new to emerge.” “The primary cause of unhappiness is never the situation but your thoughts about it.”

[Zen] Re: �Man made God in his own image...�

2013-02-27 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe, You are not a zen practitioner truly that is what I understand from your message. So much of fear was expressed in your mail. Why this fear about a person. Why you are so quick to form a Judgment and reject, this is nothing of zen practitioner. I am not afraid of any body and not

[Zen] Pessimists are looking for misery

2013-02-25 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
The pessimist is the common variety. Out of a hundred persons, ninety-nine are pessimists. They are looking for misery, they are waiting for misery. They are convinced that something is going to happen which is going to be wrong. They are ready for it. If it doesn't happen they will be very

[Zen] Re: Pessimists are looking for misery

2013-02-25 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe, Those are from OSHO. I liked your reply. But tell me how do you keep on replying? Are you not tired of writing back for all post? I see now a days traffic on zen forum is too much. I could not participate on anything. I even withdraw myself from indulging to post in any other forums I

[Zen] I have never done any sadhana

2013-02-20 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
From Ramana Maharishi - (very thought provoking) “I have never done any sadhana. I did not even know what sadhana was. Only long afterwards I came to know what sadhana was and how many different kinds of it there were. Only if there was a goal to attain, I should have made sadhana to attain that

[Zen] Re: Dogen, Mystical Realist

2013-02-19 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Sir, Wonderful saying. I have a problem. This daily life often takes me out of this spirituality. I often drained off by the thoughts of wanting and fearing. I can’t speak spiritual in other forums such as Merchant Navy forums, which they dislike. Can anyone have a separate life one for

[Zen] Unconscious decisions in the brain

2013-01-28 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear ella guru' Below is the article from Max Planck Institute for Human Cognitive and Brain Sciences in Leipzig, which you mentioned. From the below article it is scientifically proved 'Free will' has no meaning or to limited sense. My understanding is that brain is just like other organs of

[Zen] Re: war criminals

2013-01-27 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Merle, Please note yesterday it was revealed to me that, the form (any form) is bound by action and reaction. Formless(space) is free. Just take example of heavenly bodies they are bound by a law which was discovered by Newton. That is all bodies move in a straight direction unless or until

[Zen] FIRST EMPTY YOUR CUP?’

2013-01-24 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
FIRST EMPTY YOUR CUP?’ THE JAPANESE MASTER NAN-IN GAVE AUDIENCE TO A PROFESSOR OF PHILOSOPHY. SERVING TEA, NAN-IN FILLED HIS VISITOR'S CUP, AND KEPT POURING. THE PROFESSOR WATCHED THE OVERFLOW UNTIL HE COULD RESTRAIN HIMSELF NO LONGER: STOP! THE CUP IS OVERFULL, NO MORE WILL GO IN.’ NAN-IN

[Zen] Re: FIRST EMPTY YOUR CUP?’

2013-01-24 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe, Of course those words are not of mine. Itis of from OSHO. Iam sorry that I did not mention who is the author. I was reading OSHO books online and this interested me so I posted. What is my take? OSHO is an enlightened Master, so every word delights me. You can try his meditation

[Zen] Re: Karma is real and free will is illusion

2013-01-21 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe, For the first time, I cannot find any fault in you. It was a satisfying answer. Accepting oneself as he is, is wisdom. Continue your practice, I am with you. Best regards Suresh -- Thanks and best regards J.Suresh New No.3, Old No.7, Chamiers road - 1st Lane, Alwarpet, Chennai -

[Zen] Re: Karma is real and free will is illusion.

2013-01-20 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe, Thanks for suggesting some good books on zen. I have gone to that MLBD.com website, but it listed only 4 books and three of them by OSHO. Please note I have read Zen through OSHO may be 5 or 6 books. Please note your remarks on Mr.Tolle are totally false. You are assuming everything

[Zen] Re: Karma is real and free will is illusion.

2013-01-18 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe, Thanks for stressing on Practice. The situation of mine does not permit to meet any living zen teacher. Even if I want to learn Zen, I need to buy book and read it and then practice comes. Joe: How did *he* come to his clarity about what he expresses? He did it by practice. Suresh: He

[Zen] Karma is real and free will is illusion.

2013-01-15 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe, For last one week I was on tour and on leave for Pongal festival which is used to be the festival of Tamil farmers, Regarding the topic Karma and free will, I did not follow up all your mails and today I was rushing through all your mails. Please note ‘no man is an island’. It means

[Zen] Karma is real and free will is illusion.

2013-01-07 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe, I agree to your argument to some extent, but still I have doubts. Joe: In the awakened state, karma and free will are moot, and do not operate. Yet, if we slide backward from the awakened state, and fall into delusion even a bit, karma (our previous conditioning, mind-habits, and the

[Zen] Re: I want to know reason for human violence.

2013-01-03 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear all, “Buddhism teaches that it is due to Ignorance, Hatred, and Greed.” Now if we take this case of Delhi rape, why was that 23 year old girl had to suffer like this and die after 13 days of pain. Watching films in night and returning with your boyfriend is common in any country. It is an

[Zen] I want to know reason for human violence.

2013-01-01 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Joe, It was my mistake and deeply apologies for the same. Probably my misunderstanding about forum led to this. I will try to rephrase my posting in future. My humble question is how one’s mind becomes so violent it not only rapes but also feels to hurt severely others. If someone kills by

[Zen] women is the reason for this

2012-12-31 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Maria, From your post: This problem was not triggered by porn - but by a mind that was sick and confuse and he felt bigger and powerful to be the ring leader and the poor idiots that follow him believing their leader was a good leader. My opinion is that it is the woman who can do anything

[Zen] Why depression had no shadow in me

2012-12-26 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Sri.Ram Mohan, I have read your article ‘on depression’ to explain 5 years of depression. Your writing is close to medical terms and hence not clear to me. I always felt psychological treatment is not required for a sane person. Even any bodily disfunction can be adjusted by body itself.

[Zen] Increasing instances of rapes in India

2012-12-26 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Sirs, Apart from blaming parents, I wanted an explanation on the religious concepts. According to Bhagavad Gita all things in the world are happening as per the will of god, not even a dead leaf fly without the knowledge of God, if this is true, then the rapes are happening with the

[Zen] 'I’ he refers to pure consciousness.

2012-12-19 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Sir, Please note according to Bhagawan Ramana Maharishi, ‘I’ is all. This ‘I’ he refers to pure consciousness. Consciousness in you is the watcher of the mind. Try to meditate over it. Anger comes: who is watching? You know perfectly well that there is anger; you know perfectly well that

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