Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 6:23 PM
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Grimy Teeth
©2004 by Jonathan Scott
Once upon a time there were two boys and
they were the best of friends. Unfortunately for
both though, they were both about
It's not about either of you. You two were having a
discussion about the difference between the law of Christ and the law
of Moses. Ron's take seemed to be that the focus with Christ's plan
was in forgiveness and repentance. Your take seemed to focus on the
whole punishment aspect of the
At 05:24 PM 3/22/2004, Ron Scott wrote in response to Jim Cobabe:
Equal protection is already afforded in our laws, for
legitimate and
traditional marriage. Nothing in the constitution
envisions the
degraded definition of marriage that encompasses any
particular union
of convenience, affection,
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 10:10 AM
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At 05:24 PM 3/22/2004, Ron Scott wrote in response to
Jim Cobabe:
Equal protection is already afforded in our laws
At 08:29 AM 3/23/2004, Ron Scott wrote:
Obviously these thoughtful judges are simply
wrong--in light of the
Church's teachings on this subject, as well documented by Jim.
Must I point out to you, of all people, that church teachings are
not part of the U.S. Constitution, which is the guide that
First, the father should be the same individual for both children. The
difference being one child is willing to live a higher law, with the
other needing to be prodded along.
I didn't focus on the Law of Moses. I focused on eternal laws of God.
You'll note that I not only quoted from the Old
: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 10:10 AM
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At 05:24 PM 3/22/2004, Ron Scott wrote in response to
Jim Cobabe:
Equal protection is already afforded in our laws, for
legitimate and
traditional marriage. Nothing in the constitution
envisions
But only if the current Constitutional powers are obeyed and honored.
When we have mayors in San Francisco and elsewhere giving out marriage
certificates in defiance of the law, then what piece of paper is there
that can establish the law? And when judges overstep their proper role
and
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:11 AM
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At 08:29 AM 3/23/2004, Ron Scott wrote:
Obviously these thoughtful judges are simply
wrong--in light of the
Church's
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From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:39 AM
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Just because a judge is an activist judge, does not make him a
thoughtful one.
I'm growing weary of the tiresome assumption
At 09:45 AM 3/23/2004, you wrote:
But only if the current Constitutional powers are obeyed and honored.
When we have mayors in San Francisco and elsewhere giving out marriage
certificates in defiance of the law, then what piece of paper is there
that can establish the law? And when judges overstep
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 09:45 AM 3/23/2004, you wrote:
But only if the current Constitutional powers are
obeyed and honored.
When we have mayors
At 02:05 PM 3/23/2004, you wrote:
Tell us how you feel about the amendment now that we know there's
a move afoot to change the language? grin What's Wilkins
reaction to same? This thing is beginning to feel like an
election year stunt gone haywire.
RBS
The marriage amendment is doomed to failure.
Ron Scott wrote:
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From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:39 AM
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Just because a judge is an activist judge, does not make him a
thoughtful one.
I'm growing weary
entitled to seek the full protection of the law, as
Steven will confirm.
RBS
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From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 4:26 PM
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Okay, how about 200+ years of laws being interpreted
I think we should go for both of them. If one fails, we have an
alternative method. As it is, there probably will not be a perfect
solution, but in this case some solution may be better than allowing SSM
from proliferating.
Gary Smith
Steven Montgomery wrote:
At 02:05 PM 3/23/2004, you
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 4:20 PM
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At 02:05 PM 3/23/2004, you wrote:
Tell us how you feel about the amendment now that we
know there's
a move afoot to change
First, the father should be the same individual for both children. The
difference being one child is willing to live a higher law, with the
other needing to be prodded along.
Ok. I agree. Although my guess is that that will make the story a
little more bewildering.
I didn't focus on the Law of
On Mar 21, 2004, at 3:44 PM, RB Scott wrote:
Gary:
Look, I don't think we're ever going to agree. I'm probably as
aware as you are as to what God taught and what he didn't. I
think are differences are in approach. I'm inclined to teach the
gospel, you seem inclined to preach repentance.
This is
if our methods
are different.
Ron
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From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 1:42 PM
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Subject: [ZION] Vote Now!
How about his prophecy that Jerusalem would be
destroyed by God for its
sins? Since Christ
Only he can fully judge us, but the Lord calls upon mankind to judge.
Why else have judges in Israel? And we can often tell if a person has
repented or not, by whether they have abandoned their sins. Someone
living in a gay relationship and pushing for gay rights has not
abandoned his sins,
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From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 12:04 PM
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That's a cop out. A touchy, feely, liberal cop out.
You either need to
defend your position, or give ground.
Oh phooey. You're
Harold Stuart wrote:
[RB Scott] I'm inclined to
believe that God must be a pretty forgiving God if he's willing
to forgive the sins of repentant sinners like you and me. I
believe that God wants to include as many people as He possibly
can...and that it's my job to do my bit to ensure
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From: Sander J. Rabinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 2:00 PM
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SNIP
Now what the Lord says to us personally and through the
scriptures is clear and unmistakable, but part of that is
because
At 11:10 AM 3/22/2004, you wrote:
Thus sayeth the self-appointed Judge in Israel. By the way, who's
pushing for gay rights here? I've seen a few here calling for
equal treatment under the law for all, which is something
guaranteed by our divinely inspired constitution.
RBS
Yes, but equality
At 02:24 PM 3/22/2004, you wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 4:17 PM
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At 11:10 AM 3/22/2004, you wrote:
Thus sayeth the self-appointed Judge in Israel. By the
way
:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That's a cop out. A touchy, feely, liberal cop out.
You either need to
defend your position, or give ground.
Oh phooey. You're itching for a fight and I'm not going to give
you one, no matter what names you call me or how you twist my
I'm lousy at parables. Please explain.
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From: Jonathan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 6:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ZION] Vote Now!
Grimy Teeth
©2004 by Jonathan Scott
Once upon a time there were two boys
Ron Scott wrote:
--
Thus sayeth the self-appointed Judge in Israel.
---
Actually, in the church our judges are appointed by inspiration from
God. They are not self-appointed nor is their administration a form of
political spoils for the party in power. Just in case you did not
realize this.
Well put, Sandy. To me -- others will surely differ -- the
divinely-inspired U.S. Constitution is the guide for how we
should deal with such matters. In asserting that the
Constitution is divinely inspired, God suggests that that
equality, rule of law, and freedom to worship and choose right
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From: Jim Cobabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 7:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ZION] Vote Now!
Ron Scott wrote:
--
Thus sayeth the self-appointed Judge in Israel.
---
Actually, in the church our judges are appointed
Ron Scott wrote:
I'm lousy at parables. Please explain.
Here's my interpretation. I hope that I am not too far off
the mark.
1) The filth represents sin, generally, through the individual
choices of the children involved. The effects of the filth
represents the effects of sin.
2) The
To continue the discussion with Jack and how we are affecting the culture
in the Middle East, let me quote today's Best of the Web from the WSJ:
The Road to Damascus
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/20/international/middleeast/20SYRI.html?ei
Sorry had to teach a class.
Ron Scott wrote:
I'm lousy at parables. Please explain.
Here's my interpretation. I hope that I am not too far off
the mark.
1) The filth represents sin, generally, through the individual
choices of the children involved. The effects of the filth
represents the
Ron Scott wrote:
---
Sophistry? I beg your pardon. Has the Church indicated that
people who believe the courts should decide the matter, as
mandated by the divinely-inspired constitution, are out of step
with the church and its teachings? Please point me to the
statement.
---
Others with better
At 08:58 PM 3/20/2004, you wrote:
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From: Grampa Bill in Savannah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 8:36 PM
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RB Scott wrote:
Seriously, I don't
recall Christ preaching death for any offense
At 09:00 PM 3/20/2004, you wrote:
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From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 8:22 PM
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Subject: RE: [ZION] Vote Now!
RB Scott wrote:
I think you've got it right. The old laws are off the
books. If
they become
John W. Redelfs wrote:
Hi Gary. My name's Jack, I'm the only son of the listowner.
===
Grampa Bill comments:
Love your style... love your writing... love your dad! Visit us more often.
Love Y'all,
Grampa Bill in Savannah
With sufficient thrust, pigs
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 8:42 AM
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At 09:00 PM 3/20/2004, you wrote:
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From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday
How about his prophecy that Jerusalem would be destroyed by God for its
sins? Since Christ is God, he was doing more than just foreseeing an
event - he was being Judge, Jury and Executioner. He will do it again at
the Second Coming.
We must remember that the Mosaic Law was a lower law - but
My comments intermingled below:
Jack wrote:
This is interesting info, Gary, but I doubt that it applies to this
discussion.
Although business traditions are mercurial, cultural traditions tend to
strengthen
exponentially from generation to generation. The hand that rocks the
cradle, etc.
I
are the same, more or less even if our methods
are different.
Ron
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From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 1:42 PM
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Subject: [ZION] Vote Now!
How about his prophecy that Jerusalem would be
destroyed by God for its
I have no idea.
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 8:29 PM
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What laws do you think?
At 06:04 PM 3/19/2004, you wrote:
What laws?
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From: Steven
Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 8:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ZION] Vote Now!
What laws do you think?
At 06:04 PM 3/19/2004, you wrote:
What laws?
-Original Message-
From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19
Ah yes, and stone to death adulterers too. Cast that first
stone, Steven.
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 9:19 AM
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Subject: RE: [ZION] Vote Now!
How about the Law of Moses (Jarom 1:5)? Contained
/20/2004, you wrote:
Ah yes, and stone to death adulterers too. Cast that first
stone, Steven.
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 9:19 AM
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How about the Law of Moses (Jarom 1
I think Christ provided the answer, don't you?
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 12:48 PM
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Hey, all l did was point out the penalty of the law--in
the days of Moses
That's somewhat of a fallacious generalization, John. Yes, it is
difficult and it takes time. But you know what, in business management
terms, we see change as requiring time. When a business changes its
culture, it requires years for the complete change over. Behaviorists
will tell you that
: Saturday, March 20, 2004 9:19 AM
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Subject: RE: [ZION] Vote Now!
How about the Law of Moses (Jarom 1:5)? Contained
within the law of Moses
are many commandments, among them this one:
(Old Testament | Leviticus 18:22)
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind
Message-
From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 1:44 PM
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Subject: RE: [ZION] Vote Now!
That's somewhat of a fallacious generalization, John.
Yes, it is
difficult and it takes time. But you know what, in
business management
terms, we
know mine.
Ron
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From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 2:18 PM
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Ron, why is it that you attack the commandments of God
like this?
Christ, to this day, condemns sexual impurity
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hey, all l did was point out the penalty of the law--in
the days of Moses
and of the people in the Book of Mormon. Since we don't
live under a
theocratic government, death penalties for sabbath
breaking and adultery
does seem to be going way
offense...well, murder
perhaps (but I don't recall it).
RBS
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 6:42 PM
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If he did then perhaps I'm just too blind to see.
Perhaps you can
RB Scott wrote:
I think you've got it right. The old laws are off the books. If
they become laws again, they ought to be enforced. What do I
think the penalty ought to be for Sabbath breaking? Dunno. Let
me consult with my Jewish and SDA friends. Seriously, I don't
recall Christ preaching
Hi Gary. My name's Jack, I'm the only son of the listowner. Since I advised
him in writing the post you are responding to (I'm his history advisor), I was
interested in your reply and decided to respond.
Gerald Smith wrote:
That's somewhat of a fallacious generalization, John. Yes, it is
Gerald Smith wrote:
It might take Iraq 40-50 years to switch over to a strong democracy. So
what? It means our grandchildren's children will live in a world with
one more free nation that isn't run by radical kooks.
Hope springs eternal in the human breast,
Man never is but always to be blest.
RB Scott wrote:
Seriously, I don't
recall Christ preaching death for any offense...well, murder
perhaps (but I don't recall it).
=
Grampa Bill comments:
But the Christ of the New Testament IS the Jehovah of the Old
Testament and in those days with those
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From: Grampa Bill in Savannah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 8:36 PM
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RB Scott wrote:
Seriously, I don't
recall Christ preaching death for any offense...well, murder
perhaps (but I don't
Gays and lesbians should stay in the closet.
Their choice. They should NOT be afraid to come out of the closet, nor
should they expect to be accepted.
In my own personal experience, those of my friends who came out of the
closet remained my friends, and were counseled by me in love to change
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From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 12:11 AM
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Subject: RE: [ZION] Vote Now!
RB Scott wrote:
Seriously, I don't
recall Christ preaching death for any
offense...well, murder
perhaps (but I don't recall
Same-sex marriage will become legal in all or most of the United States
over the next five years.
A. Certainly
B. Likely
C. Maybe
D. Unlikely
E. Certainly not
//
/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at ///
///
Mankind will establish permanent space colonies by the end of the century.
A. Certainly
B. Likely
C. Maybe
D. Unlikely
E. Certainly not
//
/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at ///
///
Gays and lesbians should stay in the closet.
A. Strongly agree
B. Agree
C. Undecided
D. Disagree
E. Strongly Disagree
//
/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at ///
/// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html ///
-Original Message-
From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19, 2004 1:52 PM
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Subject: [ZION] Vote Now!
The USA and her allies will successfully establish democratic rule in
Iraq.
A. Certainly
B. Probably
C. Maybe
D. Unlikely
E
A. Certainly.
However, the question will be how long it lasts. Once we start
concentrating on other areas, will the Iraqis keep it? I mean, look at
what the French and Germans have done with their freedom since we ended
the Cold War and didn't concentrate on them as much.
Gary Smith
John W.
E. Strongly Disagree. How else are we going to know which ones are the
tares, if they hide amongst the wheat??? There's gonna be a big
bonfire, and I'm hoping to watch it, not get burned mistakenly because
we can't tell the firewood from the cabinetry in the house of God.
Gary Smith
John
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19, 2004 1:52 PM
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Subject: [ZION] Vote Now!
The USA and her allies will successfully establish democratic rule in
Iraq.
A. Certainly
B. Probably
C. Maybe
D. Unlikely
E. Certainly not
E. Certainly not. Democratic
Tom Matkin wrote:
The USA and her allies will successfully establish democratic rule in
Iraq.
A. Certainly
B. Probably
C. Maybe
D. Unlikely
E. Certainly not
E. Certainly not. Democratic rule is a privilege that must be earned.
The people of Iraq cannot have it given to them or established
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From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 19, 2004 2:25 PM
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Presidente Tomas,
So, are you saying that instead of trying to help them democratize, we
should have just turned Afghanistan and Iraq
Same-sex marriage will become legal in all or most of the United
States over the next five years.
A. Certainly
B. Likely
C. Maybe
D. Unlikely
E. Certainly not
B. Likely
--
Jonathan Scott
//
/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please
The USA and her allies will successfully establish democratic rule in Iraq.
A. Certainly
B. Probably
C. Maybe
D. Unlikely
E. Certainly not
If Bush gets a second term...then, B. Probably.
If Bush doesn't, then, D. Unlikely, and all the while the dems will
blame Bush for it.
--
Jonathan Scott
Mankind will establish permanent space colonies by the end of the century.
A. Certainly
B. Likely
C. Maybe
D. Unlikely
E. Certainly not
D. Unlikely
--
Jonathan Scott
//
/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at ///
///
Gays and lesbians should stay in the closet.
A. Strongly agree
B. Agree
C. Undecided
D. Disagree
E. Strongly Disagree
You need one more option.
F. I don't care. The closest to it is C. Undecided I guess.
--
Jonathan Scott
John W. Redelfs wrote:
Same-sex marriage will become legal in all or most of the United
States over the next five years.
A. Certainly
B. Likely
C. Maybe
D. Unlikely
E. Certainly not
Grampa Sez:
C. Maybe
Love Y'all,
Grampa Bill in Savannah
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine!
John W. Redelfs wrote:
Mankind will establish permanent space colonies by the end of the
century.
A. Certainly
B. Likely
C. Maybe
D. Unlikely
E. Certainly not
Grampa opines:
B. Likely
We've got 96 years on this. Look where we were 96 years ago.
Now, if the second coming occurs in the
]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Vote Now!
Same-sex marriage will become legal in all or most of the United
States over the next five years.
A. Certainly
B. Likely
C. Maybe
D. Unlikely
E. Certainly not
B. Likely
--
Jonathan Scott
At 01:54 PM 3/19/2004, you wrote:
Same-sex marriage will become legal in all or most of the United States
over the next five years.
A. Certainly
B. Likely
C. Maybe
D. Unlikely
E. Certainly not
If the United States doesn't withdraw from the United Nations we will. If
not in five years then
At 01:57 PM 3/19/2004, you wrote:
Mankind will establish permanent space colonies by the end of the century.
A. Certainly
B. Likely
C. Maybe
D. Unlikely
E. Certainly not
We pretty much have a semi-permanent presence in space now--with the ISS.
An actual colony, on the other hand, is far more
At 02:02 PM 3/19/2004, you wrote:
Gays and lesbians should stay in the closet.
A. Strongly agree
B. Agree
C. Undecided
D. Disagree
E. Strongly Disagree
If the laws were strictly enforced, as they were in the days of the people
of Nephi, they would have to stay in the closet--to avoid the penalty
Why does our membership in the UN have anything to do with it?
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 8:08 PM
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At 01:54 PM 3/19/2004, you wrote:
Same-sex marriage will become
What laws?
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 8:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 02:02 PM 3/19/2004, you wrote:
Gays and lesbians should stay in the closet.
A. Strongly agree
B. Agree
C
At 06:04 PM 3/19/2004, you wrote:
Why does our membership in the UN have anything to do with it?
Sharon Slater answers it this way:
Quote
Attempts to legalize same sex marriage around the world would be
substantially strengthened if homosexual behavior becomes an
internationally recognized
What laws do you think?
At 06:04 PM 3/19/2004, you wrote:
What laws?
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 8:15 PM
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At 02:02 PM 3/19/2004, you wrote:
Gays and lesbians should
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