Re: [OSM-talk] Damage

2009-11-22 Thread Chris Hill
Dave F. wrote: Chris Hill wrote: I have found some edits by LenoXx http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/LenoXx which were damaging. They look like random changes by someone who didn't realise they were actually changing the data. The History lists his as version 1. Did he

Re: [Talk-transit] Novam colour scheme question

2009-11-16 Thread Chris Hill
Ed Loach wrote: Recently I wrote (re CUStomary stops): I can't think of any easy way of verifying those other than hang around all day hoping someone will get on or off (or perhaps trying to get on at one and trying to get off at another). I saw Peter's suggestion about getting

Re: [Talk-transit] Novam colour scheme question

2009-11-11 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: On 11 Nov 2009, at 16:23, Ed Loach wrote: Looking at the bus stops I've verified, and in particular ones on roads where I've verified some but not others, would it be possible to have a different colour (I'm using Peter Miller scheme at present) for unverified

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding some additional building around the Angel areaof London?

2009-11-11 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: Can I suggest that we 'inform' them of out intentions to use the logo unless we are told 'no' together and a sample of what it would look like and our interpretation of copyright law. We should avoid 'asking' them as such and then needing a positive 'yes' from them. I

Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN import status - update and question

2009-11-11 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: At a rough count we have now have NaPTAN imported for about 1/3 of GB (41 imported, 7 requesting an import and 90 that have not requested one).[1] We have no authorities where someone as blocked an import any more - one person did request a 'wait and see' on the

[Talk-transit] Bus stops in Hull

2009-11-10 Thread Chris Hill
I have just checked the last of the list of NaPTAN bus stops in Hull. East Yorks next. Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit

Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones

2009-11-10 Thread Chris Hill
Ed Loach wrote: As has been mentioned before, the process of hunting down an elusive postbox often has the benefit of some other missing feature getting mapped as well, just because you happen to be in the neighbourhood. I'd agree with that (and can also think of two adjacent

Re: [OSM-talk] watching areas/places like wikipedia for changes

2009-11-08 Thread Chris Hill
ヴィカス ヤダワ (vikas yadav) wrote: Hi All, Is there a way to be notified by email when someone changes something in an area or a region? In wikipedia, we can be notified when someone changes the pages we watch. I have been working around the capital region in India and there are too few

Re: [OSM-talk] watching areas/places like wikipedia for changes

2009-11-08 Thread Chris Hill
The drawback of the history tab is that it includes the 'big' edits which cover the area but didn't change anything directly in that area. I would prefer to be able to hide the big edits, and have them hidden by default. Cheers, Chris silversurfer wrote: You can just click on the history

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-11-01 Thread Chris Hill
Christoph Böhme wrote: And another update of NOVAM: - Internet Explorer 8 should now work (make sure it is not in compatibility mode). It is quite slow though compared to the other browsers. I'll try this out later. - The naptan:Bearing tag is used to show an arrow on the bus stop

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-11-01 Thread Chris Hill
Christoph Böhme wrote: Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk schrieb: On 1 Nov 2009, at 17:58, Chris Hill wrote: Christoph Böhme wrote: And another update of NOVAM: - Internet Explorer 8 should now work (make sure it is not in compatibility mode). It is quite slow

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Hill
Christoph Böhme wrote: I've updated Novam. It now supports multiple colour schemes and also highlights errors in the tagging of stops. At the moment three colour schemes are defined: 1. The original Birmingham one 2. Chris Hill's colour scheme for Hull (with slightly different colours

Re: [Talk-GB] Automating email alerts of mapping errors.

2009-10-25 Thread Chris Hill
Chris Andrew wrote: Hi, all. I was just thinking about the 'Keep Right' website that shows mapping errors on OSM and also, the ability to highlight roads that do not have names. Having this information available to us, do we have the capability to run a report/ script against this data,

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-10-22 Thread Chris Hill
Christoph Boehme wrote: Good Morning, this is just to let you know that NOVAM is working again. It can be found on http://mappa-mercia.org/novam . Please update any old links and booksmarks. Since I decided not to implement a merging functionality on the website I have removed most of

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN case study

2009-10-22 Thread Chris Hill
Christopher Osborne wrote: Hello all As part of the data.gov.uk http://data.gov.uk experiments, I had several encounters with top brass of various gov departments. They were very excited in the NaPTAN import, none of them had heard about it and as far as I know it is the first example of

Re: [Talk-GB] OS and their Aerial mapping featured (advertised) onBBC's Countryfile

2009-10-03 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: On 3 Oct 2009, at 13:37, Jason Cunningham wrote: Ordnance Survey and their aerial mapping feature (7min) in last weeks episode of Countryfile (BBC1). It comes across as a long advert for the Ordnance Survey and I wish the BBC had been impartial. Agreed. I suggest

Re: [OSM-talk] shop=groceries?

2009-10-02 Thread Chris Hill
MP wrote: I notices few days ago user farlokko changed many shop=groceries into shop=greengrocer worldwide. The changeset is http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2562959 I think this change is wrong, at least for most nodes in czech republic - I know about nodes that I've added and

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Chris Hill
Dave F. wrote: Dave Stubbs wrote: I wouldn't read too much into it, especially as they said, we’ve almost certainly got at least some of it wrong but hopefully we got part of it right and can correct the rest as we go Dave You see, this is the problem. I don't think, in this

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-28 Thread Chris Hill
David Earl wrote: On 28/09/2009 08:53, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Incidentally, as well as the possible OS contamination, the Council will itself have database and content copyright in the data, so explicit permission would be needed from them to incorporate and release it under our CCBySA

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Chris Hill
Dave F. wrote: Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote: I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way, and its associated copyright, would belong to the Local Council. When they

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Chris Hill
Dave F. wrote: Chris Hill wrote: Dave F. wrote: Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote: I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus stop map

2009-09-23 Thread Chris Hill
Christoph Böhme wrote: Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net schrieb: It was partly because I struggled with NOVAM that I knocked up this overlay. I couldn't reconcile the NOVAM rules with the stops I have checked As Thomas already said the rules were based on the tagging scheme from

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-23 Thread Chris Hill
The OS have their own aerial survey 'plane, currently based in Blackpool I think. A large part of their rural mapping updates comes from this hi res photography. They don't choose to release these photos for general use of course. An OS 'plane used to be based at an airfield I used to fly

Re: [Talk-GB] Verticality metre, was: Re: OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Chris Hill
Matt Williams wrote: 2009/9/18 Matt Williams li...@milliams.com: 2009/9/18 John McKerrell j...@mckerrell.net: On 18 Sep 2009, at 19:44, John McKerrell wrote: On 18 Sep 2009, at 19:27, Matt Williams wrote: A random selection of vertical(ish) photos: 113-124 (all of

Re: [Talk-GB] Locating Postboxes article Guardian

2009-09-17 Thread Chris Hill
Ciarán Mooney wrote: Hi, Also I've spoken to Draco in the past, and his website does not sync with OSM. He has tried to get help with a mass import but the discussion was rat-holed due to supposed problem deriving data from Royal Mails postbox list.

Re: [Talk-GB] Aerial Photography

2009-09-14 Thread Chris Hill
I used to hold a pilot's licence and I did some work photographing archaeological sites. Photos taken pointing sideways are much harder to work with than photos pointing straight down. Any kind of rectification adds unwanted artifacts. I used to make high bank angle turns (60' bank angle)

Re: [Talk-GB] Aerial Photography

2009-09-14 Thread Chris Hill
Avon seem to be taken at an angle-how do people find them for mapping from? 2009/9/14 Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net mailto:o...@raggedred.net I used to hold a pilot's licence and I did some work photographing archaeological sites. Photos taken pointing

Re: [OSM-talk] new proposals for k:shop

2009-09-11 Thread Chris Hill
Roy Wallace wrote: I personally think new shop values should come from tagwatch, not from proposals. I.e. to steer the crowd towards the tag already used by the majority where necessary. +1 IMHO proposals can be useful for introducing new tagging schemes (for a way to tag vacant

[Talk-GB] Tenfoot

2009-08-28 Thread Chris Hill
In many towns and cities in the UK there are small ways behind rows of houses. In my part of the world (Yorkshire) we know them as a tenfoot (they are traditionally 10 feet wide). I have not mapped many - they often seem private to the houses, but today I did follow a couple. I wonder how

Re: [Talk-GB] Uk Missing Major Roads.

2009-08-27 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Childs wrote: 2009/8/26 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: On 26 Aug 2009, at 10:08, Chris Hill wrote: The orange (maybe brownish) roads can be secondary, tertiary or unclassified. I've compared the NPE roads to some roads that I know well and they cover what I would

Re: [Talk-GB] District Boundaries - N Wales

2009-08-23 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: On 22 Aug 2009, at 12:03, Chris Hill wrote: Well I'm pleased that they agree with me, but I'm not the oracle! This is another source quoting the same general information. Do the Scottish and Northern Irish counties generally extend to the low water mark

Re: [Talk-GB] District Boundaries - N Wales

2009-08-23 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: On 23 Aug 2009, at 15:50, Chris Hill wrote: Peter Miller wrote: On 22 Aug 2009, at 12:03, Chris Hill wrote: Well I'm pleased that they agree with me, but I'm not the oracle! This is another source quoting

Re: [Talk-GB] District Boundaries - N Wales

2009-08-22 Thread Chris Hill
water mark. Bogus Zaba wrote: I have had confirmation from the Local Government Boundary Commission for Wales who agree with the view below from Chris Hill. They say : "...in general the seaward extent of a local authority is the low water mark as defined by Ordnance Survey. The exce

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN bus stops

2009-08-21 Thread Chris Hill
From: Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics talk-transit@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, 21 August, 2009 16:38:52 Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN bus stops Peter I can confirm that the Department for Transport would be

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN bus stops

2009-08-21 Thread Chris Hill
Roger Slevin wrote: Peter I can confirm that the Department for Transport would be supportive of any way in which we (and the local editors who maintain NaPTAN data as best they can) can get the feedback from OSM contributions to improve data accuracy. I will be happy to

Re: [OSM-talk] Business Building Conventions

2009-08-20 Thread Chris Hill
James Livingston wrote: On 20/08/2009, at 10:29 AM, Andrew Ayre wrote: If I draw the outline of a strip mall (a connected string of shops) this represents several businesses together. If I then put nodes on them and give the nodes names Mapnik won't render the names unless

Re: [Talk-GB] English chapter

2009-08-18 Thread Chris Hill
What is the point of local chapters in England? We don't have language conversion issues, currency issues or time zone issues. Cheers, Chris David Earl wrote: I put a proposal on the wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/Proposed_Chapters for a central

Re: [Talk-GB] English chapter

2009-08-18 Thread Chris Hill
Nick Whitelegg wrote: What is the point of local chapters in England? We don't have language conversion issues, currency issues or time zone issues. Cheers, Chris One need would be to organise and coordinate local mapping. For instance, in my area

Re: [Talk-GB] Public Rights of Way

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Hill
Glenn Proctor wrote: Following on from this, am I correct in assuming that the only definitive source of mapping information about public rights of way is the OS? It seems ludicrous that *public* rights of way are effectively copyrighted in this manner. I suppose it's analagous to the issue

Re: [Talk-GB] District Boundaries - N Wales

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Hill
I have researched boundaries of the English counties and unitary authorities. it seems that generally they follow the mean low water mark. Some of the land is owned by the council, some by private owners but often by the Crown Estates and leased to the council. By using the low water mark the

Re: [Talk-GB] Public Rights of Way

2009-08-14 Thread Chris Hill
I suggest you talk to them - it's a good idea for both parties. Cheers, Chris Jason Cunningham wrote: Has there been any contact in the past with ramblers groups to help mapping of footpaths in the countryside? We arrange mapping parties but often that involves preaching to converted. I

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-08-11 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Reed wrote: Interesting point from Paul (southglos) about slip roads. Ive just worked the numbers slightly differently and he seems to be right. Adding up the total length of motorways in England according to DfT it comes to 6,021km. My total from OSM for England =

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline

2009-07-28 Thread Chris Hill
David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: "Martijn van Oosterhout" klep...@gmail.com To: "Openstreetmap" talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline Forward to ML. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Martijn van

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Boundaries - update

2009-07-28 Thread Chris Hill
Why is this 'great'? What is the point of boundary=ceremonial? If you change a boundary=administrative to boundary=ceremonial what does this do except break existing renders and tools? If you *add* boundary=ceremonial then this is available for those who want it and leave the existing

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-27 Thread Chris Hill
Christoph Böhme wrote: Hi Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb: Locality Classification was added as a possible nice to have to the version 2 schema but it has not been populated, and no guidance has been created to indicate how this field should be used (save for a table of

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-07-26 Thread Chris Hill
Sounds like a turnstile. It's not yet in the list of barriers, but the list can be extended. Cheers, Chris (vikas yadav) wrote: Hi, Is there a park barrier like this: Like its made of metal, circular in shape, two perpendicular diagonals separator, rotates and prevents any sort of

[OSM-talk] Coastline

2009-07-25 Thread Chris Hill
I have altered the coastline in the Humber estuary, UK to reflect the official position of where the coast ends and the river starts. The coastal area hasn't rendered in Mapnik yet [1]. I seem to remember that a coastline update process needs to run to change the coastline. Am I right? If

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Reed wrote: Of the authorities I have managed to measure, the following all show more road mapped than the DfT believes exists: Having mapped every road in Hull (Kingston-upon-Hull since today is a Sunday), some are fairly new and may not appear on the DfT figures.

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Chris Hill
Frederik Ramm wrote: Interestingly I joined this list a while ago because I had got my hands on some admin boundary data for England and wanted to know if it was any good (the answer was no). I then forgot to unsubscribe. I'm still planning to extend the Geofabrik excerpts to cover all

Re: [Talk-GB] [Spam] Re: Municipal boundaries

2009-07-16 Thread Chris Hill
I asked the Boundary Committee for boundary data and, as you might guess, they say they don't hold any boundary data of their own. All of their data is held by OS, so as usual we have the Crown Copyright argument. They also say that all their published information is subject to Crown

Re: [Talk-GB] Municipal boundaries

2009-07-16 Thread Chris Hill
David Earl wrote: Chris Hill wrote: Since this is a Freedom of Information Act request, and they have refused to supply me the requested information I'll ask the Office of the Information Commissioner for a ruling. Not expecting much, but you never know. Even if they did or do supply

Re: [Talk-GB] [Spam] Re: Municipal boundaries

2009-07-15 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: On 15 Jul 2009, at 15:50, Chris Hill wrote: I asked the boundary commission recently for boundary data, though I didn't ask for it in the English rather than geographic form. their answer was that they define the boundaries but the OS draw them on behalf

Re: [OSM-talk] Undo request button for changesets

2009-07-14 Thread Chris Hill
And when a vandal chooses to undo all the changesets you have added in the last few months how will you feel then? Cheers, Chris Pieren wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Ulf Lampingulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Why not? Wikipedia seems to be living pretty well with

Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website

2009-07-12 Thread Chris Hill
If you use your browser's print option you get a full page (on landscape) map of the current zoom area. What else would you like to see? Cheers, Chris Daniel Glassey wrote: I don't think I expressed myself clearly in the lazyosm session.[1] I would like to see a simple 'Print' button or

[Talk-GB] Coastal boundaries

2009-07-10 Thread Chris Hill
I have had a reply from a chap at the Crown Estates to my FOI request about coastal boundaries. He confirms that coastal council boundaries are at the mean low water mark. Some councils lease some of the foreshore from Crown Estates, some from other landlords and some councils own the land

Re: [Talk-GB] [Spam] More on coasts and counties

2009-07-09 Thread Chris Hill
Should we ask Crown Estates for all the details rather than bothering some 100 local authorities? Good idea. I've emailed the Crown Estates - let's see what detail they will supply. Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-GB mailing list

[Talk-GB] More on coasts and counties

2009-07-07 Thread Chris Hill
[long-winded local info follows] I asked my local county for information on where the county ends at the coast and in the Humber estuary, using the FoI act. Their answer is interesting. Firstly, the county ends at the mean high water mark of the North sea. This is extended to the low water

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-03 Thread Chris Hill
In case you haven't seen it there is an addressing system which has thought this through [1] and seems to be used as the de facto standard. My personal experience is that it is a slow and tedious process which I haven't even finished for the village where I live but don't mention this to

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Boundaries progressing really well, however why is Hampshire, England not rendering?

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Hill
Not sure if this is the problem, but part of the boundary relation does not follow a boundary=administrative way, it follows a road. This is just west of Vernham Dean [1]. The boundary also follows the river Enbourne again without a way tagged boundary=administrative [2]. [1]

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Hill
The last time you brought this up it was pointed out that web sites have copyright on them and this is a problem for your plans. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can ignore it. Using copyright data without permission IS A SHOW-STOPPER. Please don't continue to ignore the

Re: [OSM-talk] Potted plants vs. garden beds

2009-06-28 Thread Chris Hill
I don't think they are garden beds.  This would usually bigger and usually at ground level and part of a garden.  A potted plant tends to be a plant grown indoors in a pot also known as a house plant. The containers with plants in might be known as planters. I'm not sure the rows of planters

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?

2009-06-26 Thread Chris Hill
si...@mungewell.org wrote: Would it be possible to have a magic button to hide all of the 'big' edits so I could quickly see the small local edits, to get an idea of who and how frequently they were editing my area. +1, better still, the button should reveal the big edits, default should

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Chris Hill
Pieren wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:19 AM, greg...@arenius.com wrote: What do people think? I know that there are a bazillion amenity tags already in use but I think that going forward a better organized system will be worth the effort of implementing it. I think

Re: [Talk-GB] Counties and coasts

2009-06-23 Thread Chris Hill
:45:55 +0100 From: Chris Hill chillly...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [Talk-GB] Counties and coasts To: Talk GB talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: 4a3f8b13.20...@yahoo.co.uk I'm interested the relations of the boundaries for counties. I notice that some counties (and recently English Regions

[OSM-talk] Is Xapi working?

2009-06-08 Thread Chris Hill
I've tried to access some stuff from Xapi and it keeps coming back with The network link was interrupted while negotiating a connection. Please try again. This happened over the weekend too. The request this time was http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.6/node[amenity=studio] Am I

Re: [OSM-talk] Is 'name' tag mandatory for a 'living_street'?

2009-06-06 Thread Chris Hill
Perhaps it would make sense to introduce highway=alley? +1 Just start using highway=alley, there have been enough questions to think it is required. In this part of the UK they are known as a ten-foot, but alley would be a fine. Cheers, Chris

Re: [Talk-GB] maxspeed field - what units should we use. etc

2009-06-04 Thread Chris Hill
I tag what I see. I see 30 which implies 30mph, so I tag 30mph. The units differentiate it from km/h. Another mapper in this area (East Yorkshire) has tagged some in km/h with 2dp. Ulf then went over all of these and stripped the decimals off. As I encounter them I change them to imperial

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM UK publicity challenge

2009-06-01 Thread Chris Hill
I emailed him a few days ago about loading OSM maps into his Garmin and to be careful about trusting roads on maps along parts of the east coast because of erosion. Haven't heard from him. Cheers, Chris Richard Fairhurst wrote: So how do we get some more publicity for OSM in the UK?

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-22 Thread Chris Hill
Ben Laenen wrote: On Friday 22 May 2009, Andy Allan wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wrote: A typical city here would look like all roads inside the built-up area inside one relation, and when there are roads inside

Re: [OSM-talk] Hello from a probably new contributor

2009-05-20 Thread Chris Hill
A safe and fairly reliable way is to run your GPS from NiMH rechargeable batteries. You can recharge these with a charger run from your bike electrics, or from the mains when you have it. It doesn't risk your GPS and it allows you to take the GPS off on foot. Cheers, Chris Jehan Pags wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Satellite for OSM

2009-05-17 Thread Chris Hill
It depends which restaurant to take it to. ;-) Bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote: To lunch a small Satellite is not very expensive. Are there plans for an OSM satellite? Here some informations about small satellites

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-06 Thread Chris Hill
Russ Nelson wrote: On May 6, 2009, at 2:03 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Russ Nelson wrote: What work or creativity did Google do towards the existence of that particular point? Google's imagery suppliers collected and rectified the imagery. "For

[OSM-talk] 500 error on main site

2009-04-25 Thread Chris Hill
The 500 - Internal Server Error is spreading. Now the main site has succumbed. Cheers, Chris ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Aerial Photographs (was: People's Map)

2009-04-16 Thread Chris Hill
A local man used a radio-controlled glider tp photograph our village and an archaeological dig a couple of miles away. One problem with RC planes is that they are unstable in the air because of their short wing-span, so the camera points left and right wildly. A glider has much longer

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering export has only coastline

2009-04-08 Thread Chris Hill
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Ben Ward wrote: This looks like a bug/problem with the Openstreetmap Mapnik Export rendering. Can anyone confirm, or fix? Mapnik export doesn't work on Wednesdays while the database is reloaded. I believe there's an intention to fix this in the medium

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - h==highway

2009-03-30 Thread Chris Hill
Maarten Deen wrote: Renaud MICHEL wrote: Le lundi 30 mars 2009 à 05:46, PAA a écrit : Request for comments on creating the key:h and making it synonymous with key:highway. That's just ridiculous. Don't start duplicating tags with the same meaning. No it's not. It's

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=cyclefootway

2009-03-28 Thread Chris Hill
Cyclists are often going to be asked to give way to pedestrians. Cycle routes often (usually) allow pedestrian access too. I would tag it as a cycleway with foot=yes. The fact that they are part of a cycle trail reinforces this to me. But, hey, get it in the database as something close to

[OSM-talk] more OSM coming soon

2009-03-26 Thread Chris Hill
I've been getting a lot of tiles with the 'more OSM coming soon' message on Mapnik, both yesterday and today at various zoom levels. The tiles appear quickly rather than after a long delay as occasionally happens. Is anyone else seeing this? Does it need attention? cheers, Chris

Re: [OSM-talk] more OSM coming soon

2009-03-26 Thread Chris Hill
Thanks, though I can't say I've noticed it before. cheers, Chris - Original Message From: Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk To: Chris Hill chillly...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Talk OSM talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, 26 March, 2009 12:00:04 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] more OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] Free National Grid Vector Layers for gas and electricity?

2009-03-13 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: A nice friendly person in the GIS business has just pointed this site out to me. They described it as a 'free' national grid vector layers and it certainly looks as though one can download shape files for gas pipes, electricity lines and the like. I am not sure what

Re: [Talk-GB] Free National Grid Vector Layers for gas and electricity?

2009-03-13 Thread Chris Hill
Ron Wellsted wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Hill wrote: Peter Miller wrote: A nice friendly person in the GIS business has just pointed this site out to me. They described it as a 'free' national grid vector layers and it certainly looks as though

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Telephone Debate

2009-03-12 Thread Chris Hill
For Pity's sake Fred, give it a rest! cheers, Chris - Original Message From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, 12 March, 2009 8:32:19 Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Telephone Debate

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Hill
Russ Nelson wrote: *I* see OSM as an API for all possible geodata: everything that doesn't move, and a few things that do. There are arguably many things currently in OSM which should not be edited. For example, political boundaries at every level. Hmmm, political boundaries

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan

2009-02-27 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: Would it be appropriate to continue this conversation on legal-talk? Talk is very busy at the moment and we have a lovely list of our own :) Emoticon aside, I think the licence is far too important to just discuss among a cosy few. When I tried to join legal (out of

[OSM-talk] Mailing lists

2009-02-25 Thread Chris Hill
I've just received about 30 emails from the lists with dates scattered over the last few days. Some of the threads suddenly make sense! Are there problems with the mailing lists? Cheers, Chris ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-gb-thenorth] Mapping the unloved and unwashed

2009-02-10 Thread Chris Hill
Brian Quinion wrote: Should we investigate buying aerial photography for some of these un-loved places which would allow us the capture the base road structure and land-usage prior to any actual visit and speed things up a lot? The photography that Mikel and eye have been sorting out for Gaza

Re: [OSM-talk] Hit my server

2009-02-07 Thread Chris Hill
Jonas Svensson wrote: I have set up a temporary openlayers/mapnik-server at http://www.mozoft.com:9980/tms.html. It can't take much load initially when rendering tiles, but I am curious about what happens later when the cache is covering most. So please feel free to hit it it! It will

Re: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet

2009-01-22 Thread Chris Hill
Christopher Schmidt wrote: After a recent spate of OSM activity, especially with regards to rendering and so on, I've put together a bookmarklet designed to help visualize changes to OSM data in Mapnik more rapidly. http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/up-to-date/ Very nice indeed. This is

Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous editing

2009-01-20 Thread Chris Hill
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Yay for 0.6 going live in March. +1 Can we take this opportunity to finally disable anonymous editing? +1 Cheers, Chris ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] 68 GPS units donated to OSM

2009-01-18 Thread Chris Hill
- Original Message From: Erik Söderström e...@yi.se My name is Erik Söderström and I live in Gothenburg, Sweden. I'm fairly new to this project, but have quickly been drawn in due to my fascination of all things free. I work as an IT-admin at a logistics company (haulage). We

Re: [OSM-talk] 68 GPS units donated to OSM

2009-01-18 Thread Chris Hill
But to push the average sample rate for an area up to a useful level you will need about a 100 trips on the same road - easy near a depot or a big customer, not so elsewhere. It might give a reasonable track in very slow-moving traffic. Just uploading all the tracks to OSM and then looking at

[Talk-GB] [OT] Coordinates

2009-01-18 Thread Chris Hill
A friend of mine has received a planning application with some strange coordinates in it. The location is described by the local council as: 504165 433891. He asked me about it and it doesn't make sense to me. I estimate the OSGB ref as TA 030322 and the lon/lat as: -0.443913, 53.77588.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Chris Hill
Ian Dees wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu mailto:t...@compton.nu wrote: Ian Dees wrote: I think it would be very handy to have a couple database experts that are not attached to OSM and its current setup look at the plans

[OSM-talk] Keep Mapnik relevant

2009-01-01 Thread Chris Hill
I notice that abandoned railways are now being rendered on Mapnik. I'm not sure that this is a good idea. Fairly near to me there are a few abandoned railway that have been made into footpaths or cycle paths and they are tagged as such and render as such. There are also a few abandoned

Re: [OSM-talk] Keep Mapnik relevant

2009-01-01 Thread Chris Hill
Marc Schütz wrote: I notice that abandoned railways are now being rendered on Mapnik. I'm not sure that this is a good idea. Fairly near to me there are a few abandoned railway that have been made into footpaths or cycle paths and they are tagged as such and render as such.

Re: [OSM-talk] Keep Mapnik relevant

2009-01-01 Thread Chris Hill
Someoneelse wrote: I notice that abandoned railways are now being rendered on Mapnik. This was discussed a bit on talk-gb recently: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2008-December/003369.html (and related messages) There are/were quite a few railway=abandoned features

Re: [Talk-GB] Announcement: Hull completed

2008-12-25 Thread Chris Hill
Ed Loach wrote: I thought that club was called I moved house to map more. [I'm sure someone will come up with a better name.] I discovered Harlow had high res Yahoo imagery and have started tracing houses? (Hint) Ed I wish there was better imagery for this area, though drawing

[Talk-GB] Announcement: Hull completed

2008-12-24 Thread Chris Hill
I would like to announce that the fine city of Kingston Upon Hull (Hull to its friends and 'Ull to its locals) has all its public roads and many of its amenities completed. Almost all of the city was mapped by Jean and me by driving or walking around it. We have taken about 10,000 photos (my

Re: [OSM-talk] Indiscrimate layering

2008-12-19 Thread Chris Hill
Frederik Ramm wrote: Stop anonymous editing now! +1 Is it too late to ban anonymous edits in API 0.6? Cheers, Chris ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping the unloved and unwashed

2008-12-15 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: On 15 Dec 2008, at 18:20, matthew-...@newtoncomputing.co.uk wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:14:53PM +, Peter Miller wrote: This list is called 'talk-GB' but in the description it is described as General discussion for UK users

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