Hi All,
I have been trying to replicate the E-Cat transmutations in an open-source
kind of way and I'm ready to start asking the community for suggestions on
how to proceed.
I have two identical reactors that I can pressurize with hydrogen up to 20
bars and heat to 300C. I can measure, graph,
Hi Damon,
I hope your piping is better than class 150, and your fittings better than
schedule 40. Preferably you would want to use class 3000 pipe and schedule
80 fittings of 316/316L stainless steal. The strength of stainless steal
Thank you for the safety concern. I'm using schedule 40 pipe
A few replies:
Terry: Thanks for the link. If I start to see pressure exceed 300PSI (20
bars) I'll think about a rupture disk (but at what pressure?). So far I'm
pressurizing up to 150 PSI (10 bars) and with mild heating it has not
increased more than a few PSI. (I haven't logged pressure very
Hi Axil: As usual, very interesting.. and way over my head.. Dimpling
and bringing something up to the temperature of melting stainless
steel is beyond my ability.. but hopefully others are listening and
can try..
I'm not sure that powder coating the reactor wall is required to get
transmutation.
What makes you think there is a catalyst?
That was my thought too... That even without a catalyst or loading of
hydrogen into the nickel, a few degrees of excess heat could be gotten
with a low-cost replication attempt. I tried and got no results at
20bars of hydrogen and 250C heat. I also used
Ecat builder, have you ever tried reading Piantelli's 2010 patent for
Thanks S.A., yes, that is a nice reference. If I had more time and a
real lab capable of 10^-9 bar and 500C I would try... Was hoping a
little transmutation could be achieved without impulses and
pre-loading. If anyone knows
With October fast approaching, I have some easy questions:
Where is Rossi right now?
Where is his lab/factory that is producing E-cats for the 1MW test?
Wouldn't it be easy for someone to follow him from his apartment to
the factory? Give an address, count cars in the parking lot, etc?
How
Jed, I don't think it hurts to ask a few softball questions here in
hopes that there is some insider information available. I don't expect
Rossi to answer here. (Otherwise I'd write to his blog, which he is
great about responding to people's non-confidential questions.) This
is just standard
Hey Axil,
Yes, I want inside information.. but purely out of curiosity. My
financial interest is about $2000 in replication attempt costs, and
the hundreds of hours I've spent learning about the E-Cat. A few
people on this list know my true occupation (software developer) and
that I'm not a
Hey, ecat builder, you wouldn't happen to be a HAM, would you? Or, do
you know one? Look around your neighborhood for some who has a Rohn
25 tower in their backyard with an antenna which surely isn't seeking
My HAM license expired in 2003. And I don't have any easy way to put
wires
It would have been nice to see two identical E-Cats, one is chosen at random
and charged with hydrogen, the other not... and power is added to both units
the same way. If the active one is clearly spewing more heat and steam,
anomalous heat would be assured.
Lets imagine that the next test shows
There is NO evidence that Rossi's newer generation E-Cats have ever or will
ever explode. Rossi has maintained that in the event that they melt down
that they simply stop producing heat.
If you happen to be on Rossi's invitation to see his 1MW plant, by all means
take whatever precautions you
I agree with Terry. Rossi is not a build it and take pictures kind of
guy. He is surely testing multiple units at once.
You don't build an array of something that complex unless you're
pretty sure about the individual units. And as soon as practical, you
start running multiple units at once...
I've been collecting a few links to steam engines available on the net
so that I'm ready when the e-cat's begin shipping. =)
Here is an interesting one-- a very small 10HP model ($2K)
http://www.greensteamengine.com/
Plans, full units, and licensing available.
A much larger one puts out just
Thanks for the responses everyone.
A few quick comments:
Hoyt: Are you sure the electric company will want unsynchronized AC?
That might make the meter run backwards, but it seems
counter-intuitive. Also, $200K/year might be today's price, but that
number should quickly approach zero. Once a
Most DC appliances use from 5 to 48VDC. Going from one DC voltage to
another is difficult. A friend of mine has a pure solar/battery house
wired for 12VDC, 24VDC, and 120VAC. It is complex and a little
daunting for the average visitor.
A simple low-voltage 48VDC source (like POE 802.3af) would be
Daniele Passerini has reported that the customer interested in the MW
reactor it is a well-known and largest industrial group
http://freeenergytruth.blogspot.com/2011/10/ecat-customer-is-large-well-known.html
Perhaps GE or Siemens? Speculations?
- Brad
p.s. Rossi said on his blog that the 1MW
Please feel free to write your prediction about the Oct 28 1MW Rossi test.
** Please include a 0 to 100 prediction **
0 is a scam is exposed, 25 is an unexposed scam, below 50 is failure,
and 100 is commercially viable no doubt LENR power.
Here is my prediction, mostly taken from comments on
Per Rossi's blog, the steam is going into a dissapater, and then back
into the plant.
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
I understand why it is not permitted to make photos of the Consultants of
the Customer, but why not of the steam coming out from the
The first priority is to win the sale. Getting outbid while kicking
the tires would be devastating to the customer. The contract will
specify that the sale is void if Rossi is using chemical shenanigans.
The sooner the customer can start working on the technology, the
faster they can establish
More here: reactor running:
http://www.youtube.com/user/PESNetwork
Possibly more coming soon.
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3303682.ece
5.5 hours of self sustain mode after just 2 hours of startup time. Champaign
anyone?
Brad
That the E-Cat operates without much noise is good news, and expected
considering only a muffled boiling noise is expected. Maybe they took
a sound reading from inside the reactor using a noise canceling mic
and/or closed the container doors. Maybe it was just an educated guess
of little
I don't understand the New Energy Times agenda.
Very strange that they use Krivit and his continued description of Rossi as a
promoter. Now they say it's a good thing nobody has given Rossi much money--
because heaven forbid this technology could have gotten to the public sooner.
As I am
By the way, can anyone recommend (preferably good) near future science
fiction novels that have cold fusion device as a plot generator? Is
there even any?!
Our very own Jed Rothwell's book Cold Fusion and the Future is the
best I know of on near future sci-fi CF technology.
It costs $.99
Blacklight Power just released a video that was posted on vortex:
Replication and testing at Rowan University.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfjOIoPwolg
A number of people are trying to replicate on a small scale. Here is
the latest, in the planning stage:
The value of the first 1MW plant to the first dozen customers will not
be its steam, per se: Its getting first-mover advantage on learning
about this new technology that might replace 1/5 of the world economy.
Yes, the customer probably left the container on site with rights to
use it. Rossi says
Asking about the heat from the dissipaters is a reasonable question.
Why don't you email some of the people who attended the Oct 28 demo
with a few questions? I emailed Mats and will reply here with any
response. You can even ask Rossi on his forum--he is gracious with his
responses to polite
The main reason any customer at this stage is buying the E-Cat 1MW
plant is to reverse engineer it and/or determine its viability.
However, each initial sale (13 now?) probably includes some strict
non-disclosure or anti-reverse engineering clauses. So Rossi is
probably selling a number to
Why did Krivit only release one slide? What did the others slides say?
I requested a nasa FOIA request for the all of the slides. But if
anyone knows Michael Larsen's and can request the slides, that might
be faster.
- Brad
Dennis Bushnell gave a very pro-LENR presentation at the NASA LENR
Workshop held at GRC on September 22, 2011. I think he may become a
powerful ally of LENR. There is no hint that Bushnell thinks the Rossi
E-Cat may be a scam--only that he has a very early model of a very
important new energy
The registered address is the physical address for the Agent for the
company, which can receive corporate mail on behalf of the
corporation. In this case, the agent is Travis, James R, at 8 Town
Farm Rd. He is an agent for multiple corporations. Lots of small
companies set up a business this
Here is a list of all the videos from Lane Davis on Frank's Z-Theory:
http://tinyurl.com/ztheory
In YouTube format, for you international folks...
- Brad
Frank,
If LENR is mostly beta decay, I'm not sure why its not work like a
betavoltaic. It would be the killer app of the century. Please get
to work. :)
Who is spinning a turbine with LENR?
MY, You are comments are snide, cantankerous and counter-productive.
Its no wonder you're hiding behind a
Hi Jed,
That list caught my eye as well.. Those are just the impurities
in the Ni powder. For instance, my 30nm Ni powder says 99.8%, which
means there are a number of impurities.
Some clues as to the chemical assist catalyst are there.. the toxic
materials used in all modes suggest a non-toxic
We're not there yet.. but a 100% accurate lie detector would change everything.
This book is a fun read on the subject: The Truth Machine by James Halperin
http://www.amazon.com/Truth-Machine-Speculative-Novel/dp/0345410564
- Brad
Software That Listens for Lies:
I just posted a slideshow from Dr. Joseph M. Zawodny of NASA Langley
Research Center from the September 22 LENR Workshop.
http://www.ecatplanet.net/content.php?133-LENR-Presentation-by-Joseph-Zawodny-2011
Its a 35 page PowerPoint presentation that covers history, theory,
ramifications, and more.
Hi Aussie,
I posted that and a few other steam engines earlier that got a bunch
of thoughtful replies.
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg53254.html
However, maybe a discussion of grid-tie in using existing solar/wind
systems would be interesting. Some of the new tie-in
Citi5 claims victim of Spear Phishing Cyber-attack
Could this be a case of Anonymous hacking, or do we have another
Anthony Weiner-like claim of being hacked..
http://citi5.org/launch/?p=1883
Quoting:
Citi5 has been the target of a coordinated and well executed
cyber-attack intended to spread
Hi All,
Just a brief update on the replication attempt by Chan. Chan is an
anonymous poster who claims to have replicated the Rossi reaction
using powders on two builder sites, ecatbuilder.com and buildecat.com.
He uses an RFG connected to a induction coil to heat the contents of a
copper
I think DKG will have a Hyperion for a demo very soon. Take a few
barrels of water, a watch, thermometer and run it with power going
through a 3A fuse.
Heat a barrel of water in an hour, or a whole pool in a couple of days.
If DKG does it right, they'll have a number of scientists and
reporters on
Vortex is a great list.. but I think it has outgrown the email list format.
I propose moving the list to a modern web forum based product. Modern
forums allow embedded HTML/multimedia, moderation,
yellow-card/red-card infractions, personal messaging, email
protection, full searching, plus all the
Hey Aussie,
It seems like Chan is doing all his heating by RF coil.
A slow tuning of the dial may be all it takes to find a harmonic that works.
I take it you've tried the 81.9Mhz figure from Storms? Maybe ask how
he came up with that number?
I have some new copper pipe, a freq gen, and some new
Hi Peter,
That's a lot of pressure and temperatures to work with... Remember the
pressure will increase significantly when heated. Every part of your
container needs to be rated for whatever the final temp/pressure
combination is, including tubing, valves, sealant, etc. I'd like to
know how you
New monograph is available on Cold Fusion. 26 pages of good reading.
Author: Stoyan Sarg Sargoytchev, York Univeristy, Toronto, Canada
Source: http://vixra.org/abs/1112.0043
Discussion: http://www.ecatplanet.net/content.php?140-bsm-supergravitation
PDF:
Download and install GreaseMonkey (you can search via FireFox addons)
or go here:
http://www.greasespot.net/
Once GreaseMonkey is installed and FireFox is restarted, click on the
userscript on this page: http://thewe.net/tex/
And the following should be real pretty.
[;e^{\pi i} + 1 = 0;]
-
Forbes is all about business and investing. I've been a subscriber 25
years. This is my take:
Gibbs is alerting readers that there is a probability that energy
stocks could quickly lose value due to a Cold Fusion device
impacting traditional energy demand. Some believe it is a zero percent
You can buy heat pumps, air conditioners, tankless water heaters, gas
water heaters, 60A circuit breakers, poisons, muriactic acid, and lots
of other things that can kill you at the Home Depot. HD also provides
professional installation of solar and HVAC. I think this fits in
very nicely with
Here is an alternate site for download:
http://ecatplanet.net/downloads/pdf/Reaktor_Rossi.pdf
- Brad
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:23 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
The website has been down for some time now.
It keeps returning the message: Bandwidth Exceeded ... try again later.
It
I got an email from the Chan replicator... He says he has achieved 6
COP. He has sent me a few messages but does not return any questions
to me.. but he apparently reads what I send him. I said I would post
his update.
http://www.ecatplanet.net/showthread.php?100-Chan-Method-of-Ni-H-fusion
Hey Axil,
I've put nickel nano powder and potassium chlorate (rough powder) into
a test tube and heated it to 200C with 120 PSI of hydrogen and saw no
excess heat to report.
Any ideas on preparing the Ni lattice or tubercles?
MY: You have quite an ego to accuse Axil of not contributing science
Chan, a mystery Ni-H replicator claims to be working on plans for a
10MW Metal Hydride Nickel Fusion unit. He claims to have patents and
will update people on the following web site:
http://chanfusionpower.chan.host-ed.me/
It says the following currently:
Chan Fusion Power
10 MW Fusion Power
I'm pretty sure they are both temperatures. Heater temp (red) and
reactor temp (blue) is my guess.
The heater is in the 100C range, the other in the 400C range.
The spikes are a puzzle though... Maybe transient interference from
turning on or off the heater? It doesn't seem possible for the tip
Ta-Da ... yes it is argon. It is a Mills catalyst, and we know they use it.
Hold the champagne.. Piantelli says argon stops the nuclear process...
http://www.rexresearch.com/piantelli/piantelli.htm
In the pictures the yellow tubing appears to be for vacuum. But later
in the video a tube goes
Wow. I find it pretty interesting that Sterling is saying he is
convinced of this technology. I'm also hopeful that he can indeed
bring a unit home with him... and get off the NDA.
Stirling Allen is in Greece now and has seen Defkalion's final test
setup... in operation and producing heat.
Anyone have any links to the South African FFG (Fuel Free Generator) company?
Company web site or address? Additional pictures/video of the device?
Retracted PDF's? Device size or specs?
Trying not to drink the Kool-Aid, but anything that can produce 4000
watts of continuous electricity would
Arcing electricity across ordinary pencil lead (carbon) is a
well-known method of demonstrating cold fusion. I've done it
myself...
http://blazelabs.com/n-transmut.asp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KV8hz5Ubfc
- Brad
Hi Jed,
The database/searching is looking good. Have you tried adding full
text search? (Searching for alumina powder returns no hits, even
though some of the PDF's use that term. Extracting the text from the
pdf and adding it to the database can be automated.)
What database fields are available
I enjoy speculation... Since http://defkalion-energy.com/ is offline
and news is quiet...
Since Rossi can be removed from his position of CEO by the Leonardo
board of directors, it means that Rossi has sold a majority of his
company shares in exchange for cash, talent, and other business
assets.
I agree that more people should be working on some type of
crowd-sourced building. A small lab to get started can be built for
under $2000. Except for the hydrogen, everything can be purchased from
the internet. (The hydrogen can be obtained through a local welding
shop, although they should ask a
I too suspected that Gary Wright was more than just a concerned
citizen. Kudos for creativity, Krivit or whomever...
One thing in the BRC report... Rossi says his plant will be in Florida.
Looking for companies with a presence in FL... this one springs to the
front for robotic assembly, energy,
Hi Vortex,
PESN has a story about a move to open source a Fuel Free Generator
technology to recharge batteries.
http://pesn.com/2012/03/14/9602057_Johan_Open_Sourcing_His_Solid_State_Free_Energy_Charger/
This is similar to the FFG project in South Africa that PESN has
listed as the number two
Jojo,
There is some strong resistance to converting to a forum.. I think
most of the key players are happy with this (well run!) mailing list
format.
I would recommend finding an existing web site that focuses on LENR
and getting involved there. You can post here and link to the site you
choose.
Live webcast
http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/
Currently on air: (starts 16:30 CET)
2012.03.22 16:30
Overview of Theoretical and Experimental Progress in Low Energy
Nuclear Reactions (LENR)
live from Main Auditorium (click on the title for more details)
http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/
This line from Woomera strikes me both interesting and odd:
I was told that they were trying to actually see what happens in
their device with some glass with a melting point of 1500degc. They
saw it light up like the sun and then it melted the glass. This just
took a second or two.
If the
Wow. That is a spark plug on that reactor! See Pages 13, 14, 16, 18.
Page 18 has a spark plug on the desk. Interesting...
Seems like an easy way to make it go.. (at least easier than a
microwave or other ideas out there..)
Anyone know what that blue and orange device is on page 14?
I was trying
I vote for keeping Vortex politics-free, especially when it has zero
to do with the spirit of this email list. I'm sure most of us have
already decided where they fall on the political spectrum and are
perfectly capable of deciding what, and for whom, to vote for.
If you like politics (and I do)
Hi Vortex,
I'm thinking of dusting off my experiments. My LabJack is fixed
(Thanks LabJack guys) and I have some nickel alloy powder I am anxious
to try. And I can add a spark plug easily.
DGT said they can trigger the reaction on demand. It sure seems like
their trigger is a single spark or a
In other words, Rossi says: Yes, it is rude of you to ask.
One might think that confirming low-energy nuclear transmutations,
even with an experiment as simple as carbon in the microwave, could
get enough resources to do an X-Ray Fluorescence or mass spectrometry
test. But the US federal
to a custom design
SCR circuit driven by my MF-28 data acquisition module. I did this to
achieve more output, more controllability and more programmability.
Jojo
- Original Message - From: ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 4
Interesting link on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_hydrogen_welding
It also appears that you can buy vintage tungsten spark plugs. Terry
mentioned Iridium spark plugs... Any thoughts on one versus the other
or using off-the-shelf.. I would prefer to use NPT plugs.
Obviously I don't want
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:54 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Jojo, just so you don't feel too bad, I would consider it to be morally
justifiable to draw and quarter the editors of Nature magazine that
suppressed replication of cold fusion. Your dedication to theory over
experiment
Jojo,
It seems like one should do the trick--DGT seemed to be just jolting their
experiment to get an increased output--perhaps just to disassociate the H2.
But.. One big missing data point is from you: what have you tried, what has
worked, and what hasn't. I think once we get a reproducible NiH
A quick followup on spark plugs.. I think I found what I was looking for..
A small, cheap, and simple spark gap igniter that takes 5V and produces
1/2 sparks. Less than $20 shipped.
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/11218
Skip to 10:45 on the video to see it working.
Would be strong enough to
The link at the top of that page has some interesting references.. but
on my browser they show up very small.. pasting here for reference:
A Hydride Anion Trapped In Carbon NanoCone
In the presence of nanonickel the hydride expels a neutron into the
nickel nucleus resulting in an unstable
Despite the high anti-incumbent sentiment in the U.S., Scott Walker
should easily win this election. (http://www.intrade.com/ has Walker
winning at +90%)
The reason Walker has support is simple: The unions tried to bully
their way into the governor's office using a recall vote that is
usually
Does anyone have a recipe for removing oxides from Ni powder?
How about baking the Ni nano powder in nitrogen (or He, or ??) Or is a
vacuum best? For how long and at what temperature?
How does one calculate oxide levels in nickel powder to compare one method
over another?
Curious minds want to
I hear the all we can do is wait until October a lot. If just a few people
were working on replication, we could get details a lot sooner than
October/November...
Rossi is very kind to answer questions on his blog. I've asked a number of
questions trying to learn about what is going on and
The speeding problem will be solved by increased enforcement of traffic
laws and special lanes for cars that want to drive faster.
Automated enforcement will be trivial as new technologies such as toll
collection transponders become mandatory. Of course, there may be some
reluctance to embrace
This is a Russian Rossi replication using LaNi5 that is generating bursts
of X-rays and neutrons. They (Bazhutov and Izmiran
http://fireball.izmiran.ru/ ) are looking at the Erzion model of cold
nuclear transmutation...
Investigation of Thermodynamic and Radiation Effects at Loading
Intermetallic
If there are hundreds of investors, there should be hundreds of
investigators doing due diligence research on the technology. Due
diligence would include talking to experts in the field. Most agents would
be willing to share news of the deal in return for quality information from
the expert.
Q:
Hi Reliable,
Do you have any more details about the Bloke who saw the noble gas engine
that purred like a kitten?
John the inventor claims that it runs, even purrs.. He also seems to hint
that it is an over-unity device (recharge your car once a year). And also
says they are building a kit for
There are many questions about Obama's past.
It is an indisputable fact that the Long Form Birth Certificate posted on
the whitehouse.gov web site manipulated in photoshop. The moron who created
the PDF forgot to flatten all of the layers, so that anyone could go in an
move important parts of the
Thanks for the translation, Akira...
For those interested, I believe the source is here:
http://www.cobraf.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=5747reply_id=123482996#123482996
Chrome seems to be the best browser for automatic translation.
- Brad
A facebook user Renzo Barbieri makes a good case that the source of Rossi's
leaked picture is none other than Domenico Fioravanti, the engineer who did
the Oct 1MW testing.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ECat.LENR/
In the first JONP Rossi calls Cures Prof. Fioravanti. In another, Cures
signs
This is the google translation... I think this is terrible news.. Since
Fioravanti certified the 1MW tests and they are known acquaintences.
Dear Dr. Rossi
I've gotten to know in 1975 (roughly the past years because there are many). I
came to Petroldragon Boffa presented by Professor of the
I would love to hear Mike's real thoughts on the the Papp engine and
whether he thinks it is an interesting /unexplained phenomenon or we are
close to a commercial product.
Its unfortunate that the Rohner boys can't play nice--Bob just shut down
all of his brother John's YouTube videos..
Bob:
Hi Vortex,
Some updates on Papp development.. Which most of you know is a noble gas
that is charged (by RF/spark) and drives a piston with an unexplained (?)
force. Harvesting the force and residual energy to produce overunity power
remains to be seen.
I too wonder why Chen/Chan/Phen/Mint/quickly,reliable, puppy dog, etc. is
posting anonymous claims of LENR success and explosions, patents pending,
and the like..
Care to tell us your real story?
Respectfully...
- Brad
p.s. I don't agree with Jojo's characterization of the Chinese!
On 20 September 2012 19:29, ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote:
I too wonder why Chen/Chan/Phen/Mint/quickly,reliable, puppy dog, etc. is
posting anonymous claims of LENR success and explosions, patents pending,
and the like..
Care to tell us your real story?
Respectfully...
- Brad
Run away! He claims he can generate 50KW net gain in energy. but he wants
to charge $100,000 for a demonstration--refundable if it doesn't work, less
5%! So, for $5000, you can watch it not work.
For $100, I'll let you watch this video of 500 watts over-unity. (I'll
refund 75% if it isn't
The only egg on Eric's face was due to editing, to make the subject of
free energy interesting for viewers.
The $300,000 gravity wheel never ran more than three hours, and that was
aided by the wind.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Aldo_Costa%27s_Gravity_Motor
From the above link, Eric
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