Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 and the TM movement
On 10/14/2014 7:10 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: you miss the point Barry. You are simply a button pusher, with no real interest in anything other than trying to get a rise out of people, and assert your superior outlook on life. /One of the things I've noticed is that some military brats like Barry have a superior attitude - it's a defensive response when they go into dissociation - living in strange circumstances with strangers all around speaking a different language. Sometimes it makes them feel real small and insignificant. Sometimes the paranoia sets in and an expat can feel threatened - wondering what people are saying about them in a foreign language - or maybe an expat imagines that girls don't like his face. / //This is not uncommon - sometimes the brats get real lonely late at night and so they go on social media and Facebook to talk to old friends about the good old days - when they were somebody, even in their own minds. / Sometimes they go through withdrawal - not communicating at social events - sitting alone at a table at a cafe working an iPhone or on a laptop computer up in their bedroom. It's a call for help before they enter total cognitive dissonance and slip into nihilism and despair. Let's hope Barry doesn't slip on the razor's edge. You can tell when someone is old when they talk more about the past than their future./ A funny way to live, but if it brings you some modicum of happiness, then stay with it it, I guess. /Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to. It's not complicated./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : *From:* Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:51 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 and the TM movement Beautifully, beautifully written Sal! Buck just can't stand the thought the whole deal was a con, so he grasps at straws. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2014 2:10 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 and the TM movement What I find difficult to comprehend is how grown men like Doug/Buck or Steve or Lawson or Nabby can *possibly* get their panties so in a twist when someone criticizes a group they first identified with 20 to 40 years ago. Did these guys just never *grow up*? HOW can anyone *possibly* get uptight when someone criticizes a teacher they once worked with years ago? Especially one who is (wait for it) DEAD? HOW can someone get pissed off when someone criticizes something they *believe* in? Don't they *realize* that beliefs are just transitory thoughts, which, like thoughts during meditation, should just be ignored as they pass by and not held onto? HOW could they possibly be so *attached* to these things they were taught to believe in decades ago? Finally, HOW can they get so uptight when someone such as myself or Salyavin or Michael reminds them that THEY JUST AREN'T NEARLY AS IMPORTANT AS THEY THINK THEY ARE? There is NO ONE on this forum who has accomplished much of *anything* with their lives, as measured by either riches or fame. Certainly no TM TB on this forum has ever accomplished much of anything. What is WRONG with reminding these people how fuckin' ORDINARY they are? It's difficult for people like Doug/Buck or Steve or Lawson or Nabby to make a case for TM *not* being a cult when they act so much like cultists. Who ELSE in the world acts the way they do OTHER THAN cultists? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Yea But, the really interesting thing here is the legal path the old UK TM teachers carve out to continue to teach in the face of the strong-hand attempt of TM trademark assertion.. as Sal notes: but there isn't much they (Vlodrop) can do as all the teachers were trained by Marshy (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi). That is interesting. 40,000 TM teachers out there in the world trained by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a few hundreds of TM teacher re-certs. The new TM legal department sharp-shoots old individuals continuing to teach TM as they were taught to teach as an infringement but this particular group of UK scorpion TM teachers stuck together and withstands the new TM legal department together. The Maharishi Foundation (Vlodrop and Vedic City) now keep a trademark infringement law firm on retainer now in the USA as they hunt down old TM teachers teaching outside the TM teacher re-certification project, a project that came post Maharishi or at the end to have old teachers come in and sign papers again restricting their teaching. Apparently the group of UK TM teachers exist extra-territorial to new-TM because they stuck together. Damned scorpions.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
Like. On 10/14/2014 9:11 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: This great teacher continues to form so much of the subject matter, here on FFL. All of us, spread around the globe, and yet, united, through our association with Maharishi, and the myriad knowledge he brought out. It is so easy to judge a global public figure. Some go at it, as an exercise in compensation, for their own failings, and others to confirm their own set of beliefs. I find it amazing, his reach and influence on all of us. Some of us got off the train early, perhaps fearful of the universal momentum that Maharishi engendered in each of us, and its ability to mechanically dissolve any boundaries. My wife has remarked before, that feelings come first, and the story follows. So it is, if we are always hungry for something, and grasping for whatever it may be. Easy, then, to turn on a public figure, meticulously examining Maharishi's life, even ten years after his passing, for any information, that may be used to point a finger, away from the lack, the gnawing, inside us, and towards him. This public figure, with global influence. Make Maharishi the target, not in any meaningful, or organized way, but simply to deal with the inner feelings of discontent. There is nothing expressed here, about Maharishi, that has not already been examined, to death. And yet, there are a few, who must persist, in their critical, life changing, important and ever fresh, insults of the man and his work, lest they one day, turn such a critical eye on themselves. My question to them, is simply this, Life is precious; WTF are you doing with yours?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
On 10/14/2014 12:17 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Maharishi always liked the expression, The proof is in the pudding, and I love pudding! Actually I think that was George Harrison who said that: /The proof of the pudding is in the eating./ Maharishi liked to say: /The difference is the same as between day and night. To remove the darkness, you simply turn on the light. Like that, you illuminate the darkness and let your Light shine./ An overcast, and cool day today. Went for a swim, wearing my rashguard, and then cooked a good breakfast - Now watching the turkey vultures begin to catch the updrafts, rising from the canyon, circling so efficiently, upwards. A beautiful world. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This great teacher continues to form so much of the subject matter, here on FFL. All of us, spread around the globe, and yet, united, through our association with Maharishi, and the myriad knowledge he brought out. It is so easy to judge a global public figure. Some go at it, as an exercise in compensation, for their own failings, and others to confirm their own set of beliefs. I find it amazing, his reach and influence on all of us. Some of us got off the train early, perhaps fearful of the universal momentum that Maharishi engendered in each of us, and its ability to mechanically dissolve any boundaries. My wife has remarked before, that feelings come first, and the story follows. So it is, if we are always hungry for something, and grasping for whatever it may be. Easy, then, to turn on a public figure, meticulously examining Maharishi's life, even ten years after his passing, for any information, that may be used to point a finger, away from the lack, the gnawing, inside us, and towards him. This public figure, with global influence. Make Maharishi the target, not in any meaningful, or organized way, but simply to deal with the inner feelings of discontent. There is nothing expressed here, about Maharishi, that has not already been examined, to death. And yet, there are a few, who must persist, in their critical, life changing, important and ever fresh, insults of the man and his work, lest they one day, turn such a critical eye on themselves. My question to them, is simply this, Life is precious; WTF are you doing with yours? I'll spend one of my very rare BINGO on this piece. Very well written and to the point ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Very nice! I'll bet she did, too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, thanks for this. It reminds me of a wonderful story of how a little girl with pen and paper came running up to Maharishi asking him for his autograph. He said, I'll give you something more important. And he wrote one word on her paper: Enjoy On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 9:11 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: This great teacher continues to form so much of the subject matter, here on FFL. All of us, spread around the globe, and yet, united, through our association with Maharishi, and the myriad knowledge he brought out. It is so easy to judge a global public figure. Some go at it, as an exercise in compensation, for their own failings, and others to confirm their own set of beliefs. I find it amazing, his reach and influence on all of us. Some of us got off the train early, perhaps fearful of the universal momentum that Maharishi engendered in each of us, and its ability to mechanically dissolve any boundaries. My wife has remarked before, that feelings come first, and the story follows. So it is, if we are always hungry for something, and grasping for whatever it may be. Easy, then, to turn on a public figure, meticulously examining Maharishi's life, even ten years after his passing, for any information, that may be used to point a finger, away from the lack, the gnawing, inside us, and towards him. This public figure, with global influence. Make Maharishi the target, not in any meaningful, or organized way, but simply to deal with the inner feelings of discontent. There is nothing expressed here, about Maharishi, that has not already been examined, to death. And yet, there are a few, who must persist, in their critical, life changing, important and ever fresh, insults of the man and his work, lest they one day, turn such a critical eye on themselves. My question to them, is simply this, Life is precious; WTF are you doing with yours?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
On 10/14/2014 10:29 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : part of what I do with my life is tell the unvarnished truth about liar Marshy and his cons, rather than whitewash and sugar coat the facts about who and what he was and what his very unpleasant legacy is. But why continue to do it here? How much of what you say is any different from what you have been saying before? I get it. How many times do you have to keep saying the same things? bawee is the same in his repetition - post after post. I'm not deaf and blind and dead. I get it already. You have an opinion about the Movement and TM and MMY but when is it enough? This is not a world audience here. Your message is not unique. Those who disagree with you have not changed their opinion based on your constant haranguing here and those who already agree with you just mouth the same ideas so we are all barraged with the same message in triplicate. It's not that I care if you hate the things you hate and revile, it's just that I wish you could make it a little more interesting and fresh. Say something new. /So, I wonder how that Kung Foo practice is working out for him? Apparently there is some cognitive dissonance going on. He recently posted that he has been practicing Qigong for two years. Everyone knows that Qigong practice is just like TM rounding and TMSP. Go figure. /http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong
Re: [FairfieldLife] Are you among the world's wealthiest?
On 10/14/2014 12:59 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: A truly sad and amazing statistic. /Just try to keep your U.S. passport up to date and have $1,096 on your debit card for a ticket back to Houston./ *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:28 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Are you among the world's wealthiest? Are you among the world's wealthiest? - Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11161150/Are-you-among-the-worlds-wealthiest.html image http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11161150/Are-you-among-the-worlds-wealthiest.html Are you among the world's wealthiest? - Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11161150/Are-you-among-the-worlds-wealthiest.html If you have $3,650, you’re among the wealthiest half of people in the world, according to Credit Suisse's new report on global wealth. In numbers and charts, w... View on www.telegraph.co.uk http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11161150/Are-you-among-the-worlds-wealthiest.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Duped into thinking you could fly?
On 10/12/2014 9:59 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Good news! You may be entitled to compensation. /This is great news! Due to the out-of-court settlement with Red Bull you may be entitled to a $10 refund because you didn't get any wings after consuming your drink. With the money you receive you can purchase another Red Bull drink, although now the price will probably have doubled for each can. Good work, you dumb shits./ /A Cafe Mocha at Starbucks costs $4.45 and a Red Bull at Walgreen is $1.99.//Go figure./ Energy drink Red Bull settled two class-action lawsuits this week, agreeing to pay $13 million because their famous slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings' isn't true. Anyone who bought a drink from January 1, 2002 to October 3, 2014 is eligible to receive a $10 cash payment - regardless of whether there was a receipt for proof. Here's one of the ads they ran. If people can now sue for such obviously idiotic claims it only goes to show what a dumbed-down society we are living in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Duped into thinking you could fly?
On 10/12/2014 9:59 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Did you fall for the hype about being able to levitate? For the record, only a few informants have posted witnessing claims to a levitation event - nobody has claimed the ability to actually levitate. /A red herring is a statement that is or is intended to be misleading or distracting. Often used to refer to something that misleads or distracts from the relevant or important issues./ P.S. You are supposed to read the messages posted here BEFORE you ask redundant questions. /He didn't teach how to do this stuff directly; he just did it. //As far as I know, none of his students ever developed the //knack./ - TurquoiseB http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?
On 10/13/2014 8:43 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Given the amount of time I spent doing it when I could have been earning a decent crust, I would say that a round figure of £1 million ought to ease the pain of still being held to the ground by gravity. I might want an extra million to compensate me for the embarrassment of having to admit I fell for it too. Very funny Sal, I love the expression earn(ing) a decent crust. You have the potential to write some blow-us-out-of-the-water parodies. /It has already been established by MJ that there is no money to be earned baking a descent crust for the TMO - anyone who would fall for that is a dupe. What the respondents need to do is get a job and get off welfare. It's not complicated. /
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?
salyavin, you're partially right. I learned because of the prediction that mind body coordination would improve. For me that prediction has been spot on. And my first flight was pretty powerful, leading me to think that some profound transformation was occurring. I've known I'm no St Joseph Cupertino so haven't minded about no actual levitation. On 10/13/2014 8:37 AM, salyavin808 wrote: How do you know that your mind-body coordination has improved, anything in particular? I did it for ten years and can't say I noticed any changes anywhere! /Only a dupe would think that they could levitate just from reading a poster on the wall. To try and fly for over ten years with no perceived benefit is just plain dumb./ /Or, maybe the problem was something you're not telling us about. Go figure./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
On 10/13/2014 9:22 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sal says they do and their web presence speaks to it as well. But I will defer to Sal on this he is in a position to know. /This must be really embarrassing for you. It has already been established that Sal is a dupe for believing he could levitate, so nobody could expect a reasonable comment from him.//Obviously you are a dupe as well, based on your posting history to FFL. Obviously neither you nor Sal is capable of common sense, let alone understanding the mechanics of consciousness. I sometimes wonder if you two are dealing with a full deck. //Have either of you ever considered getting professional help for your cognitive-dissonance?/ *From:* anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 10:11 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Michael: note the highlighted part of my post below. A schism requires that the split off group has a coherent organization. I don't know if the initiators in England have this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : the Movement already split - don't forget the renegade initiators in England *From:* anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 8:56 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Species, Corporations, Religions, Cults, as is the nature of change, always, if they persist, break apart or become extinct. A schism is always eventually in the cards for the TM movement. It is said shortly after his death, the followers of Buddha broke into some two dozen different sects. You can see how Christianity split over time. There seem to be fewer splits among Muslims, perhaps a reflection of the dark ferocity of their memes. The Mormons, barely a religion after 150 years, have split six times. And look at all the different Hindu flavours. It is almost a no-brainer prediction that the TM movement will at some point split.*Already there are many teachers in various countries teaching outside the movement purview.* I would say that movements in which the participants are unable to think for themselves are likely to cohere together longer than those in which mental freedom and expression are given freer reign. Onward Lemmings! Rick does not have to do anything to weaken the movement, it will break naturally of its own accord, it is already frayed around the edges. While you might try to do something to arrest progress, eventually you will fail. That is the nature of evolution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/ Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie review: Gone Girl
On 10/13/2014 12:04 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: If you can manage to do what I did -- see this movie without spoilers, and without any real idea of what to expect -- it's really quite an E-ticket ride. /You are supposed to read the book BEFORE you post your review of the movie version. Where is Judy when we need her?/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie review: Gone Girl
On 10/13/2014 12:04 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I liked it. I'm thinking of going to see it tonight in an actual theater, instead of rewatching the small-screen DVD-quality screener version I saw earlier. Coming from a pirate, that's a pretty high recommendation for a movie, :-) /Why bother? You already spoiled the movie version by watching it on your laptop computer using ear buds and you apparently didn't read the book. Go figure./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
On 10/13/2014 12:14 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I can't help but see the fact that what the Movement mainly uses TM for is to get more converts to make more money. They are not out there doing anything substantive to improve the quality of life for people - they promote TM to promote TM, not to do anything else. (from my point of view) Absofuckinglutely. /Don't be so quick to confirm an opinion as *absolute* - you've been influenced by suggestion before, remember? ///It has already been established that there's no money in TM - even if you are a TM teacher or a dish washer on staff. /It can be argued that it is not a TOTAL a waste of time to be a door guard for MMY or to bake some crusty bread for the president of MUM. On the contrary, for a narcissist in the pursuit or gratification from vanity you may have derived a certain amount of personal pride from such an endeavor. Case in point.// /
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
On 10/13/2014 12:25 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Take out the lies, the bullshit and the Hindu superstitions and practices and its ok, otherwise not so ok. /Prejudice is the judgment toward people or a person because of religion, race, gender, political opinion, social class, age, or disability./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
On 10/13/2014 12:25 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Look at all the people who say TM is an asset, look at those who think it is a fine thing and then look with the same objective view at those who say it ruined their lives, that it screwed them up in many ways. Both camps are telling the truth. One is not right and the other wrong. Both things are true. /So, w//ho would you believe? A very large group of people standing on a streetcorner, who all said that they just saw a 'big blue bus' go by.// // //Or,// // //Another, very small group of people, standing on the same street corner,who all said that 'no big blue bus' came by./
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Re: [FairfieldLife] 9/11 Points and Counterpoints
On 10/11/2014 7:39 PM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Duveyoung posted a video of Ken O’keefe, and I followed up watching another O’keefe video on 9/11. Bhairitu posted a number of points on 9/11 assumptions. /You failed to address the important issue: was the WTC attack an inside job in a conspiracy with the U.S. Government and the Israeli Mossad? According to Duveyoung, if you don't believe this you are FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD./ If you don't agree with every single word of this guy's rant, YOU'RE FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD. Duveyoung Wed, 08 Oct 2014 10:02:10 -0700 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg332298.html O'Keefe denied the plausibility that the September 11 attacks were committed by Osama bin Laden and the 19 hijackers. He claimed it was an inside job and that the US government and intelligence agencies, including Mossad were responsible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_O%27Keefe
Re: [FairfieldLife] 9/11 Points and Counterpoints
On 10/11/2014 9:44 PM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The planes flying into the WTC were 767 is a much larger and wider plane than the 707. /According to both Barry1, Barry2 and the //Duveyoung, there were no Jews inside the WTC at the time of the attack. // // //Therefore, the attack was an inside job, in a conspiracy between the U.S. Government and the Israeli Mossad in order to provide an excuse for George W. Bush to invade Iraq (instead of Saudi Arabia where the hijackers came from), because Saddam Hussein had once tried to kill his father George H.W. Bush./ /So, the CIA paid 19 hijackers to fly panes into the WTC and the FBI rigged the WTC with demolitions to make sure it came down, and for good measure the NYPD brought down Building 7 to make it look real bad./ /Go figure./ /Duveyoung Wed, 08 Oct 2014 10:02:10 -0700 // //http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg332298.html// // //Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report:// //http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/engineering/architecture/911-myths/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FWIW: Gaudapada and Buddha
On 10/11/2014 4:35 PM, wgm4u wrote: I like what MMY says on the subject, /Maybe I missed it, but where and when did MMY say anything about Gaudapada and the Buddha?/ reality is both relative (dynamic) and absolute (silent), the unity of the two is the eternal reality of living being. Only in the pralaya does the Absolute exist ALONE. /All schools of Indian philosophy acknowledge the existence of the manifest world but each interprets differently the relationship between the ultimate reality and the manifest world of matter. // //So, let's review what we know: //Kashmir Saivism teaches that consciousness alternates between two phases, rest and action. The phase of transcendental rest is called 'pralaya' in Sanskrit, which has no first beginning, therefore no primal cause. ///Kashmir Saivism contends that there is only one reality, but it has two aspects; therefore the manifestation is real. This is based on the argument that the effect cannot be different from its cause. The world of matter is only another form of consciousness. /// // //Samkhya doctrine contends that there are two independent realities, and that the manifest world is the appearance of unconscious matter as separate and independent. The Vedanta doctrine contends that there is only one ultimate reality which never changes; therefore the manifest world is an 'appearance' only. // // /
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad
On 10/11/2014 10:24 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Christian Crusaders did the same thing, and don't fool yourself, if Americans ever conquered a country, we'd do the same thing too. /The U.S. conquered Iraq and liberated it from a despotic tyrant, but the U.S. didn't get any oil out of Iraq. Now, the current administration has lost the war and we'll have to send troops back in to beat back and destroy the ISIS. This is going to cost the U.S. taxpayer billions of dollars with no end in sight. The U.S. should have stayed in Iraq with at least 100,000 troops and continued liberating the whole Middle East and stabilize it so the Europeans would have some heating oil this winter. There is no way that NATO is going to be able to protect Europe from Putin and ISIS - both at the same time. No way./ /When Baghdad falls and the Americans there are kidnapped and murdered, there is going to be hell to pay in the next U.S. elections.//A whole decade lost to incompetence. There are going to be a lot of bums kicked out of congress and the White House. That's what I think./ Ask any American Indian tribe if you need examples. /Non sequitur. American Indians for thousands of years have been conquering countries, so what? The Native Americans all came over to North and South America in order to take whatever they wanted, wherever they wanted to take it. There are no pacifist indigenous populations in the New World./ L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : They're supplied the same way Mohammed supplied his *army*. They just take whatever they want, wherever they go. Whether it's money from banks, food from stockpiles, or weapons, ammunition and transportation from Iraqi army bases. This is your Islamic *work ethic*. Real work is for mensches. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:18 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 10/11/2014 2:42 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS. /There is no good news coming out of the Middle East - the U.S. supports the Saudis who are Shite Muslims; and at the same time Iranians support the Shiite in Baghdad. But, the ISIS are Sunnis who hate everyone, Muslim and infidel alike. Then, there's Assad to deal with. The only bright spot over there is Israel, the only democracy in the whole Middle East. Go figure. / How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in Iraq and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters? It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are self-sufficient to fight on their own without help from their Syrian headquarters. So, that means they're getting food, supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself. I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is providing the weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal troopers of Iraq. /Without large numbers of American troops on the ground in Iraq, we lack the ability to choose targets, to rebuild the capacity of the Iraqi Army quickly and successfully, to constrain the Shiite government from pursuing a sectarian agenda. Without large numbers of troops in Syria, we are unable to distinguish between friend and foe, to train and direct non-Qaeda opposition forces, to address the humanitarian crisis, and to prepare for—and hasten—a world without Bashar Assad./ 'Only American ground troops can defeat the Islamic State' The Washington Free Beacon: http://freebeacon.com/columns/accept-no-substitutes/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:punditster@... wrote : /Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting.// // //According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome./ With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. /'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport'/ http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
Re: [FairfieldLife] The big sky
On 10/12/2014 6:22 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: dear Fleetwood, even though I have sort of read your post containing list of possible responses it is clearly a true lie that made me LOL and COL about the principles of dealing with rattlesnakes of all sorts, not to mention principals therefore you suck at being a cult member and so I am That, thou are that, etc. but I'm gonna ignore your post anyway...unless I forget to! /It looks like a return of the infamous Judy MACRO. Why not just do like I do and post a comment on every post submitted? That way, you won't miss out on anything and we will have something to read. / On Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:30 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thank you, and thank you - the parody was hilarious - always interesting to look in someone else's mirror of my online me. Yeah, I made a remark about MJ's by-now-familiar-but-not-by-him qualification. I am feeling left out from that experience, where you state explicitly, before any response, that you have not read the post, that you are responding to. I would like to try that! Think of the possibilities, the blind agendas forwarded, the left-hand turns, down a dirt road! The next time someone makes a comment about *anything*, I'll respond like this: Even though I haven't read [subject post], it is clearly [a. an affirmation, b. a condemnation, c. an insane lie, d. an excellent joke], about the principles of [a. cooking, b.TM, c. Enlightenment, d. shoes, e. horse shoes]. Therefore, you [a. suck, b. make a good point, c. aren't making any sense], and so I [a. am, b. am not] going to [a. dignify that with a response, b. remember that, and cherish it, c. tell you to fuck off]. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Wow! Talk about being at the right place, at the right time. I get mystery and life from water, and satisfaction and wonder from earth, and blessed dreams and inspiration, from the air, wind, clouds, sun, and stars. You are indeed a fortunate and, if I might use the term, blessed man, Mac. And thanks for the wonder woman parody of me, I had a good chuckle. I hope you weren't offended by mine, I meant it all in the friendliest of ways but you never know how these things are gonna fly. Apparently MJ is too afraid to read the one I wrote about him - maybe he thinks he might recognize himself from what I wrote. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : So Fresh, isn't it? Akasha ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Me too, Fleet, I love seeing the sun and moon in the sky at the same time. The women's Dome is up on a bit of a ridge and sometimes that's possible. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:05 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The most obvious feature here, is the big sky. Not only the blazing Milky Way, overhead at night, but also being able to see a vast sky stretching over the valley, from mountain range, to mountain range, during the day - So... much...space!...Akasha. I particularly enjoy seeing the rising sun and the moon, together in the same sky. Back on earth, I bought an R/C flying sphere - white round plastic frame, with props for vertical and horizontal travel - For those of you who have used the R/C helos, this one is far more resistant to crash landings - haven't lost a blade yet. Twenty bucks, at Costco.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 9/11 Points and Counterpoints
On 10/11/2014 10:22 PM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu asked What dog do you have in this anyway? A check from Langley? I applied, stating my sole purpose was to meet Carrie Mathison. Oddly, I never heard back. /Maybe instead of applying to the CIA in Langley, you should maybe visit the SAG in Hollywood in order to meet Carrie.//We already assumed that both Barry1 and Barry2 get checks from the U.S. government - they are both apparently truther-coders. Go figure./
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ebola On A Plane! [1 Attachment]
/The problem is that we know so little about the transmission of Ebola. What if it turns out that an infection can be transmitted in the air? Apparently we have a Texas nurse getting the Ebola virus - can you get Ebola by walking down the hall in a hospital? Go figure. / /Also, if there is a breach of hospital protocol while caring for an Ebola patient and a worker gets Ebola, should the worker get fired? And, what happens if they check your temperature when you get on a plane to the U.S. and then you get a fever and throw up in the aisle while in flight?// // //So many questions, so few answers. Go figure./ (Reuters) - A Texas health worker who provided care for the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States has tested positive for the deadly virus in a preliminary examination, a state health official said on Sunday... 'Texas health care worker tests positive for Ebola' http://news.yahoo.com/texas-health-care-worker-tests-positive-ebola-100052941.html /Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, Dallas, Texas/ /It is very difficult to screen for Ebola. So far, there have been no cases of transmission on flights during this outbreak. The real problem is when the disease becomes airborne. So far, this hasn't happened yet either. Air-born Ebola on a plane is going to be a nightmare! / NEW YORK - Customs and health officials began taking the temperatures of passengers arriving at New York's Kennedy International Airport from three West African countries on Saturday in a stepped-up screening effort meant to prevent the spread of the Ebola virus... 'Stepped-up Ebola screening starts at NYC airport' Associated Press: http://tinyurl.com/lcu9bw7 The UK is to begin screening some passengers who have traveled from Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea for signs of Ebola virus disease. http://www.bbc.com/news/health-29549722 Signs and symptoms of Ebola infection: Fever (greater than 38.6°C or 101.5°F) Severe headache Muscle pain Weakness Diarrhea Vomiting Abdominal (stomach) pain http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/index.html http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/index.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
the TMO money laundering and smuggling, etc. On 10/12/2014 2:49 AM, blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Young pundits and anybody from TMO, returning to india, each person would be given particular quantity (legal) of gold. As soon as the plane lands in india, TMO henchmen would be waiting there to collect the gold, load the pundits on to the waiting van, and off they go. /So, how much money did you get //from the TMO? We already know that one FFL informant lived at a TM Center for five years and another FFL reporter got a free pod for two years at MIU./ So much gold was brought in, that they decided to make jewellery and sell the gold. The TMO's finances are so murky the you would never have the clear idea what happened to all the money. /Non sequitur. It has already been established that nobody knows the extent of TMO finances. What we want to know is what happened to all the money you got from the TMO./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Not so Farsighted...
On 10/12/2014 1:07 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Well Bhairitu, I've started perusing the videos on the remote viewing site and it's hard to convey how unimpressive it is. /You failed to address the important issue, again: was the WTC attack an inside job in a conspiracy with the U.S. Government and the Israeli Mossad? According to Duveyoung, if you don't believe this you are FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD./ If you don't agree with every single word of this guy's rant, YOU'RE FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD. Duveyoung Wed, 08 Oct 2014 10:02:10 -0700 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg332298.html O'Keefe denied the plausibility that the September 11 attacks were committed by Osama bin Laden and the 19 hijackers. He claimed it was an inside job and that the US government and intelligence agencies, including Mossad were responsible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_O%27Keefe Subject: OT: Israel From: John Manning Group: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: 8/8/2003 http://tinyurl.com/qf5x6t9 Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/engineering/architecture/911-myths The Pyramid one for instance starts with a lecture about not waiting for authority to disclose things but finding them out for yourself. And then asks you to take his word for it! The following babble is unbelievably clueless, talk of using sound to hover blocks of stone, battling alien races (where did they go and why did they leave no trace?) and worldwide slave labour! All to solve what isn't really a mystery - the pyramids weren't built with slaves and the stone was quarried nearby in the usual fashion with bronze axes and chisels, loads of which are lying around still. Pervading it all is this same elite smugness that I see with the 9/11 truthers. That only they know the truth and you are stupid sheeple for believing the authorities version of what happened. They never finish the sentence by saying we should follow their authority instead. And a highly unorthodox and impossible to verify one at that. I always found it insulting to our ancestors that we can't credit them with enough wherewithal to build a few huge monuments, I know it's a backhanded compliment but it does us no credit to assume that just because we couldn't get organisation like that together there's no way they could have, we didn't have the sort of devotional society they had. They may not even have had minds that worked in the same way as us. Whatever the RV'ers daydream, the pyramids were built by humans. Don't let other people do your thinking for you, Brown's claim that the smart people in the military don't abandon things that don't work is correct, which is why they stopped research with these guys in the first place, and that was just for stuff they were looking for in Afghanistan, these guys are talking about things that happened decades or millennia ago and just taking the visions as fact! His smugness and conviction might distract some from the fact there is no corroborating evidence but that's the first thing I look for when faced with a revolutionary idea. So I'll wait till someone digs up some of the aliens that allegedly helped or anything that shows that people couldn't have done it unaided but we already know they did! I remain unconvinced. The Farsight Institute | Remote Viewing Nonprofit Research Education http://www.farsight.org/index.html image http://www.farsight.org/index.html The Farsight Institute | Remote Viewing Nonprofit... http://www.farsight.org/index.html Available NOW! Farsight's Latest Project, the Best Ever! Farsight Planet 2014 and The Great Pyramid of Giza View on www.farsight.org http://www.farsight.org/index.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Not so Farsighted...
On 10/12/2014 2:49 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: I'm now more interested in psychological studies to find why people get so upset with folks who like to investigate things like 9-11. /So, now you've changed your mind about the conspiracy and you admit there was an attack on the WTC using planes? // /// It seems to be some form of psychosis. If I'm a truther does that make you a liar? :-D /Non sequitur. It has already been established that ///If you don't agree with every single word of this guy's rant, YOU'RE FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD./// Duveyoung Wed, 08 Oct 2014 10:02:10 -0700 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg332298.html/ BTW, we're not being smug, just raising questions and trying to make folks aware of some things. The smugness is in your head. /O'Keefe denied the plausibility that the September 11 attacks were committed by Osama bin Laden and the 19 hijackers. He claimed it was an inside job and that the US government and intelligence agencies, including Mossad were responsible./ /http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_O%27Keefe/ On 10/12/2014 11:07 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Well Bhairitu, I've started perusing the videos on the remote viewing site and it's hard to convey how unimpressive it is. The Pyramid one for instance starts with a lecture about not waiting for authority to disclose things but finding them out for yourself. And then asks you to take his word for it! The following babble is unbelievably clueless, talk of using sound to hover blocks of stone, battling alien races (where did they go and why did they leave no trace?) and worldwide slave labour! All to solve what isn't really a mystery - the pyramids weren't built with slaves and the stone was quarried nearby in the usual fashion with bronze axes and chisels, loads of which are lying around still. Pervading it all is this same elite smugness that I see with the 9/11 truthers. That only they know the truth and you are stupid sheeple for believing the authorities version of what happened. They never finish the sentence by saying we should follow their authority instead. And a highly unorthodox and impossible to verify one at that. I always found it insulting to our ancestors that we can't credit them with enough wherewithal to build a few huge monuments, I know it's a backhanded compliment but it does us no credit to assume that just because we couldn't get organisation like that together there's no way they could have, we didn't have the sort of devotional society they had. They may not even have had minds that worked in the same way as us. Whatever the RV'ers daydream, the pyramids were built by humans. Don't let other people do your thinking for you, Brown's claim that the smart people in the military don't abandon things that don't work is correct, which is why they stopped research with these guys in the first place, and that was just for stuff they were looking for in Afghanistan, these guys are talking about things that happened decades or millennia ago and just taking the visions as fact! His smugness and conviction might distract some from the fact there is no corroborating evidence but that's the first thing I look for when faced with a revolutionary idea. So I'll wait till someone digs up some of the aliens that allegedly helped or anything that shows that people couldn't have done it unaided but we already know they did! I remain unconvinced. The Farsight Institute | Remote Viewing Nonprofit Research Education http://www.farsight.org/index.html image http://www.farsight.org/index.html The Farsight Institute | Remote Viewing Nonprofit... http://www.farsight.org/index.html Available NOW! Farsight's Latest Project, the Best Ever! Farsight Planet 2014 and The Great Pyramid of Giza View on www.farsight.org http://www.farsight.org/index.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Warning! Avoid Public Places [1 Attachment]
NEW YORK --- Police said a man climbed out of a sidewalk grate and hurled a smoke bomb into a Greenwich Village restaurant Friday evening, before climbing back underground and vanishing... 'Police: Man Climbs Out Of Grate, Throws Smoke Bombs In Greenwich Village Restaurant' http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/10/10/police-man-climbs-out-of-grate-throws-smoke-bombs-in-greenwich-village-restaurant/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad
On 10/12/2014 1:33 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Shrug. We have no idea what American Indian civilization would be like 500+ years later. /Non sequitur. The U.S. and its allies had won the war against al Qaeda in Iraq, according to Obama and Biden. Now just a year later we've lost everything. / America's plans to fight Islamic State are in ruins as the militant group's fighters come close to capturing Kobani and have inflicted a heavy defeat on the Iraqi army west of Baghdad. The US-led air attacks launched against Islamic State (also known as Isis) on 8 August in Iraq and 23 September in Syria have not worked. 'War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on' http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/war-against-isis-us-strategy-in-tatters-as-militants-march-on-9789230.html And certainly, ISIS is a primitive, violent group of thugs by modern standards. My only point is that you don't have to go very far back to see the same kind of behavior from the West, so the sense of smug superiority I get from some people is not particuarly supportable. Certainly, it's not terribly useful. We have to work with moderate Muslims to solve the issues, and the we're so much better than the ragheads attitude isn't helping any. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Sounds like you're justifying ISIS's actions. True, that was typical of conquering armies in the past due to the practicality of waging war. However we consider our selves a *bit* more civilized today. We don't target innocent civilians, force them to convert and then kill them anyway, we don't steel supplies, we buy it if we don't bring it and we observe a uniform code of military conduct observed by almost all nations. BTW, we took nothing material from the Native Americans. Even they said *nobody owned the land*, so it wasn't theirs either by their own logic. We did give them about 24 dollars and some beads for Manhattan and perpetual welfare for next to eternity along with a reservation if they wanted to stay there. Not saying it was a good deal for NAs, but it was the best that could offered at the time. Had Europeans never made it to the Americas, they, NAs, would still be living in the stone age today, chasing buffalo herds on foot, living in *harmony* with nature, and killing each other over hunting grounds. Some times *change* requires a phase transition. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:24 PM, LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Christian Crusaders did the same thing, and don't fool yourself, if Americans ever conquered a country, we'd do the same thing too. Ask any American Indian tribe if you need examples. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : They're supplied the same way Mohammed supplied his *army*. They just take whatever they want, wherever they go. Whether it's money from banks, food from stockpiles, or weapons, ammunition and transportation from Iraqi army bases. This is your Islamic *work ethic*. Real work is for mensches. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:18 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 10/11/2014 2:42 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS. /There is no good news coming out of the Middle East - the U.S. supports the Saudis who are Shite Muslims; and at the same time Iranians support the Shiite in Baghdad. But, the ISIS are Sunnis who hate everyone, Muslim and infidel alike. Then, there's Assad to deal with. The only bright spot over there is Israel, the only democracy in the whole Middle East. Go figure. / How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in Iraq and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters? It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are self-sufficient to fight on their own without help from their Syrian headquarters. So, that means they're getting food, supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself. I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is providing the weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal troopers of Iraq. /Without large numbers of American troops on the ground in Iraq, we lack the ability to choose targets, to rebuild the capacity of the Iraqi Army quickly and successfully, to constrain the Shiite government from pursuing a sectarian agenda. Without large numbers of troops in Syria, we are unable to distinguish between friend and foe, to train and direct non-Qaeda opposition forces, to address the humanitarian crisis, and to prepare for—and hasten—a world without Bashar Assad./ 'Only
[FairfieldLife] Ebola, the new ISIS [1 Attachment]
/There are already more than 350 U.S. troops on the ground in West Africa, mostly in Liberia, including a handful from the 101st./ U.S. military faces new kind of threat with Ebola: http://news.yahoo.com/u-military-faces-kind-threat-ebola-073048900--finance.html /U.S. Army soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault)/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony's Pedigree
On 10/12/2014 2:42 PM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I believe he said We are against it (not to say that he did not also say your quote). /At one time MMY said he was opposed to reincarnation, implying that anyone who became a siddha would not have to be reincarnated again - they would be liberated from the endless cycle of rebirth.//Apparently the idea of reincarnation was invented by the historical Buddha. Go figure. // //According to my professor Dr. Olivelle, ...the origin of the concept of the cycle of birth and death, the concept of samsara, and the concept of liberation in the Indian tradition, were in part the creation of the non-Vedic Shramana tradition./ Notes: Dr. Patrick Olivelle, the translator of the Upaishads, is the Chair, Department of Asian Studies, and Director, Center for Asian Studies, at the University of Texas at Austin. Works cited: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation Flood, Gavin. Olivelle, Patrick. 2003. The Blackwell Companion to Hinduism. Malden: Blackwell. pg. 273-4. Being against it to me is far richer in meaning, funnier, and to me characterizes his style of communication. He spoke with different levels of meaning, with double (and triple) entendre (not sexual in instances that I heard). His quip was funny, decoupling his words from esoteria suitable for their focus on modern educated audiences, yet still conveying (what I believe) he meant. Being against it means he was promoting a method (in his mind) that made reincarnation unnecessary. If asked if he believed in the existance any curable disease, a witty doctor might say the same. This is instructive (to me) -- a message that his, and any teacher's words need to be carefully parsed, not over generalized, viewed in its specific context and for what audience, don't assume its the full teach or truth being conveyed, and most importantly, loosen up, let your sense of humor blossom (more). His is I believe the traditional view that the seeds of reincarnation (the vast mountain of karma -- both the small chunk bitten off in this life (prarabdha karma) as well as the remainder of the huge yet to be dealt with (sanchita karma) are burned by the fires of knowledge (from Gita). (And personally I do not count anything M said as authoritative. Nor that of (much) of any teacher or source of knowledge (or words). But for me, he did provide some useful starting points for personal investigation and validation.) Quick aside: paraphrasing an early day's conversation: M: we all have a mountain of karma. CLutes (apparently believing he was quite far along on the path): M, do I have a mountain of karma? M: You Charlie have more like a huge mountain range. What are the fires of knowledge? A number of possibilities, not necessarily mutually exclusive: * understanding and knowledge, * transcending, * kundalini rising and burning all latent samskaras in the chakras, culminating in the blooming of the crown chakra, * grace of a fully realized teacher, * grace of the divine * other stuff And does no reincarnation mean no more individuality after the body drops? (And my position is at least sympathetic with uber atheist Sam Harris who said in a funny quip, at a conference on death ( or something) with speakers across a full spectrum of views, paraphrasing The key thing is we will all dance around the question and weave greatly nuanced and intricate answers, but the bottom line is none of us know what really happens when the physical body dies. Reincarnation in human form does not preclude continuation of inner evolution in many astral and causal planes (Autobio of Yogi has good discussion of this). And is Moksha / Liberation (that is, all Sanchita Karma (the whole range, the big enchilada) is burned / roasted) the same as enlightenment? I suggest Liberation is the ultimate real thing, with a clear criteria. Enlightenment, at what ever stage, not so much. That is not to discount the freedom and contentment of any such stages and states.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony's Pedigree
On 10/12/2014 2:56 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: I don't know if Billy, you hijacked the thread or not but reincarnation is for the ignorant is a typical Indian belief. I wasn't even aware of it until I saw a Nat Geo or Discover channel documentary on funerals in different countries and they covered the burning ghats in Varanasi which I've seen. They mentioned that people come there to be cremated so they don't reincarnate but gurus aren't allowed because they gurus to come back and keep teaching. Weird uh? /You are not even making any sense - almost everyone in India believes in reincarnation; it's one of the leading tenets of Hinduism and Buddhism.//It's also one of the main tenets of Yoga - to liberate oneself from the binding cycle of birth, death and rebirth. Not sure how you were able to sneak into the burning ghats at Varanasi//- tourists aren't usually allowed in there just to look around./ /According to Hindu traditions, the reasons for preferring to destroy the corpse by fire, over burying it into ground, is to induce a feeling of detachment into the freshly disembodied spirit, which will be helpful to encourage it into passing to its next destination, lest it remain near its former body. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremation#Hinduism_and_other_Indian_origin_religions/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Not so Farsighted...
On 10/12/2014 5:16 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yeah, Courtney can be a little hard to take but I watched the videos to see how they were doing their RV. I got the real deal in tantra but we just call it intuition and the different ways you use it. /You are not even making any sense today. Was your tantra teacher a Truther? It would make an interesting study to find out why a tantra teacher would be teaching conspiracy theories instead of giving out mantras. Go figure./ On 10/12/2014 01:46 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I'm now more interested in psychological studies to find why people get so upset with folks who like to investigate things like 9-11. It seems to be some form of psychosis. If I'm a truther does that make you a liar? :-D Upset? Not me, I'm investigating it too, or rather I'm checking the claims made by people who think they can find answers by looking into the past somehow. So far I can't see that that is what they are doing. Are the 9/11 claims more realistic than the Egyptian ones? With the lack of corroborating evidence it seems the only way to agree is if you've decided there is a conspiracy of some sort anyway, it's not like there is a measurable standard of evidence being used here. BTW, we're not being smug, just raising questions and trying to make folks aware of some things. The smugness is in your head. That was an observation not an accusation. But do seem unaware that what you have about 9/11 is unproven accusations and not any sort of proof. But the guy in the video is /very/ smug, and /very/ elitist. The whole thing smacks of a we are smarter than you because we know this and you stupid people just swallow what the 'authorities' tell you. I either agree with Courtney Brown or I'm letting other people think for me. I see another choice. What all this basically lacks is an explanation of just where the past is supposed to be. The second law of thermodynamics tells us it aint there no more, so just where these guys go in their heads is beyond me. And there's no corroborating evidence for the claims made obviously. And an explanation for how it might work, even in linear time, might be nice. But as I always say, we need to sort the signal from the noise and that will take corrobarative evidence, maybe they could point to where something made of an alien technology is buried so we could go dig it up? That would be convincing. But as it is they are making an argument from personal incredulity and should spend a bit more time reading about Egypt before concluding our ancestors couldn't have done it all themselves. Egyptologists (the authorities) hate the Johnny-come-lately's who stroll onto the Giza plateau and declare aliens must have been involved or whatever. I wish history was all as easy to understand as RVers claim and this is the problem, they claim it's efficient knowledge and better than that gained by trained archaeologists. Can you imagine if this sort of thinking took over the education system? The internet is where this belongs, and all that that entails.. ... Conclusion: I don't think this is a good place to look if you want answers to what you see as the questions about 9/11. Or anything. On 10/12/2014 11:07 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Well Bhairitu, I've started perusing the videos on the remote viewing site and it's hard to convey how unimpressive it is. The Pyramid one for instance starts with a lecture about not waiting for authority to disclose things but finding them out for yourself. And then asks you to take his word for it! The following babble is unbelievably clueless, talk of using sound to hover blocks of stone, battling alien races (where did they go and why did they leave no trace?) and worldwide slave labour! All to solve what isn't really a mystery - the pyramids weren't built with slaves and the stone was quarried nearby in the usual fashion with bronze axes and chisels, loads of which are lying around still. Pervading it all is this same elite smugness that I see with the 9/11 truthers. That only they know the truth and you are stupid sheeple for believing the authorities version of what happened. They never finish the sentence by saying we should follow their authority instead. And a highly unorthodox and impossible to verify one at that. I always found it insulting to our ancestors that we can't credit them with enough wherewithal to build a few huge monuments, I know it's a backhanded compliment but it does us no credit to assume that just because we couldn't get organisation like that together there's no way they could have, we didn't have the sort of devotional society they had. They may not even have had minds that worked in the same way as us. Whatever the RV'ers daydream, the pyramids were built by humans. Don't let other people do your thinking for you,
Re: [FairfieldLife] The New Yorker - the 28 pages and 9/11
On 10/12/2014 5:44 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: New Yorker article about the 28 pages that were redacted from the official 9/11 Report and how the Saudis support their publication. http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/twenty-eight-pages /Non sequitur. It has already been established that the Saudis were responsible for the WTC attack.//Osama bin Laden was a Saudi. Go figure./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stock up on chocolate?
On 10/12/2014 7:45 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ebola is threatening chocolate now. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/ebola-chocolate-industry-africa-effects-111809.html /Lethal experimental infections of rhesus monkeys by aerosolized Ebola virus:// //http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1997182//
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sophisticated Pre-Columbian Native American Civilizations and Cultures
On 10/12/2014 7:15 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I'm always trying to pick up some vibe when I drive by the mounds, or climb up, but so far nothing has registered. /Stupas all over the place!// // //http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia/
[FairfieldLife] The Fall Of Baghdad
/Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting.// // //According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome./ With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. /'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport'/ http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
On 10/10/2014 8:59 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Weak minds glom onto conspiracy theories the same way that weak minds follow cult leaders. That's all anyone ever needs to know about discussions like this. /It sounds like Barry did a 180 and changed his mind about conspiracy theories. Go figure./ Subject: OT: Israel From: John Manning Group: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: 8/8/2003 http://tinyurl.com/qf5x6t9
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
On 10/10/2014 9:28 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: If 9-11 were an inside job then there would be plenty of funding to poison the well with sites like Rational Wiki. I don't have time to look at all of it now and I'm sure someone else has gone through a debunked most of the holes here. I see a couple already. If you don't agree with every single word of this guy's rant, YOU'RE FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD. Duveyoung Wed, 08 Oct 2014 10:02:10 -0700 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg332298.html /O'Keefe denied the plausibility that the September 11 attacks were committed by Osama bin Laden and the 19 hijackers. He claimed it was an inside job and that the US government and intelligence agencies, including Mossad were responsible./ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_O%27Keefe
[FairfieldLife] Truthers, was David Lynch Questions 9-11
On 10/10/2014 9:23 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Weak minds glom onto conspiracy theories the same way that weak minds follow cult leaders. That's all anyone ever needs to know about discussions like this. Are you inferring that I'm a weak mind, Barry? What's happened to you? Getting old and cranky and the contracts not showing up like they used too? /Maybe Barry1 changed his mind about conspiracy theories and now he no longer believes the Jews were behind the WTC attack, from the inside. Go figure.// // //Some conspiracy questions. //Thanks in advance. // // //Are you actually thinking that no planes were flown into the WTC? Most people that saw the attack on TV were convinced that two planes flew *into* the buildings, not *out* of them. Do you have any video tapes of jetliners flying from inside the WTC, *out* into the NYC sky in plain daylight?// //If so, how would they get a large jetliner inside the WTC through the door and up the service elevator and past the security cameras?// // //Wouldn't they need a runway for the jet to take off from, even if it was a very short one?// // //And how would the ticket sellers and pilots talk passengers into boarding a plane that was lodged between the hallway of the WTC and the women's bathroom?// // //Also, what would be the purpose of flying a jet airliner *out* of the WTC, when it would be a whole lot easier to fly one *into* the WTC - from a runway and airport in Boston?/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: (399652) The Happiest school in San Francisco
On 10/11/2014 6:52 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: This would be funny, if you weren't pathetically trapped in waking state. Did Lenz fart a lot?? /It's just another example of Barry's prejudice against Hindus. Everyone knows that carrying an umbrella over the head of SBS was the most devotional job ever; or carrying a skin for MMY to sit on. In Barry's case, to guard MMY's door in a hotel for a few hours; or tack up a few posters for Lenz. Apparently the Lenz farts were so strong that the whole lecture hall turned a golden brown color, to the point where even the security guards noticed it. Go figure./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Just gotta riff on the cartoon, which contains what's gotta be the most demeaning devotional job ever -- halo-carrier. You walk along behind your Master all day, holding a halo over his head and being farted on. Now *that* is bhakti. :-) *From:* blue_bungalow_2@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2014 12:08 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: (399652) The Happiest school in San Francisco http://assets.fundoofun.com/wallpapers/Cartoons/800x600/guru_small.jpg http://assets.fundoofun.com/wallpapers/Cartoons/800x600/guru_small.jpg
[FairfieldLife] The Fall of Istanbul Cripples Europe [1 Attachment]
/As ISIS continues to advance on the Syrian town of Kobani and close in on Turkey's border, experts in Islamic radical movements think the terror group may merge with its al-Qaeda mother organization soon. Together, the group would represent the greatest terror threat to the civilized world./ 'The Merger of ISIS and al-Qaeda Could Cripple the Civilized World' http://finance.yahoo.com/news/merger-isis-al-qaeda-could-104500024.html /ISIS and al Qaeda at the gates of Europe/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad [1 Attachment]
/According to what I've read, in the next few days President Obama will order thousands of U.S. Marines back into Baghdad, Iraq, in order to save the U.S. embassy. To provide security for the U.S. interests and the U.S. embassy; to fight the ISIS insurgents and drive them back out of the city. Failure is not an option. How is that smart diplomacy working? /Islamic State jihadists move within eight miles of the Iraqi capital, sparking calls for America to return to the country 'Iraq asks for US ground troops as Isil threaten Baghdad' The Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11156264/Iraq-asks-for-US-ground-troops-as-Isil-threaten-Baghdad.html /ISIS insurgent rides into downtown Baghdad/ http://rt.com/news/167636-iraq-cities-captured-isis/ /Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting.// // //According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome./ With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. /'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport'/ http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
[FairfieldLife] The Outdoors Lightroom
*Want to capture the sky on a clear winter night? Try these tips for serious photographers.* *Night Sky by Brian Peterson* *How to photograph the night sky:* *http://www.startribune.com/sports/outdoors/237332541.html* http://www.startribune.com/sports/outdoors/237332541.html
[FairfieldLife] Ebola On A Plane!
/It is very difficult to screen for Ebola. So far, there have been no cases of transmission on flights during this outbreak. The real problem is when the disease becomes airborne. So far, this hasn't happened yet either. Air-born Ebola on a plane is going to be a nightmare! / NEW YORK - Customs and health officials began taking the temperatures of passengers arriving at New York's Kennedy International Airport from three West African countries on Saturday in a stepped-up screening effort meant to prevent the spread of the Ebola virus... 'Stepped-up Ebola screening starts at NYC airport' Associated Press: http://tinyurl.com/lcu9bw7 The UK is to begin screening some passengers who have traveled from Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea for signs of Ebola virus disease. http://www.bbc.com/news/health-29549722 Signs and symptoms of Ebola infection: Fever (greater than 38.6°C or 101.5°F) Severe headache Muscle pain Weakness Diarrhea Vomiting Abdominal (stomach) pain http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/index.html http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/index.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Doug Henning
/Never pass up a tragedy if you think it will help you win your religious debate./ On 10/11/2014 11:28 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I always liked Henning's magic performances, met him once at MIU and got his autograph on one of his posters for my mother who just adored him. Ran across this old article about him and couldn't help but note the lack of age of Enlightenment fulfillment it speaks of for him - lonely, sad, divorces - not exactly an ideal society life seems to me. Just another pointer to what a fraud TM is: http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html image http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html After Falling Under the Spell of Wife Debby, Doug Hennin... http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html Facebook Twitter View on www.people.com http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html Preview by Yahoo After reading the article I looked up any reference to his Merlin musical and here is what I read: The show was not a critical or financial success and is remembered today chiefly because of the number of preview performances it played: while most shows play a month or so prior to inviting critics and having an official opening, Merlin had 69, never inviting the critics and postponing the opening three times, despite charging full ticket prices.^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_%28musical%29#cite_note-1 During the musical's troubled tryouts, the original director (Frank Dunlop) was replaced by Co-Producer Reitman and choreographer Billy Wilson was added. The tune for the song Put a Little Magic in Your Life had previously supported a different lyric: These Are Not the Merriest of Days. Also: When the show went into previews, there were many technical problems, and the opening date was cancelled three times. The New York critics decided enough was enough, and went to review it before it's official opening date. They universally hated it. Henning couldn't act or sing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad
On 10/11/2014 2:42 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS. /There is no good news coming out of the Middle East - the U.S. supports the Saudis who are Shite Muslims; and at the same time Iranians support the Shiite in Baghdad. But, the ISIS are Sunnis who hate everyone, Muslim and infidel alike. Then, there's Assad to deal with. The only bright spot over there is Israel, the only democracy in the whole Middle East. Go figure. / How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in Iraq and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters? It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are self-sufficient to fight on their own without help from their Syrian headquarters. So, that means they're getting food, supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself. I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is providing the weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal troopers of Iraq. /Without large numbers of American troops on the ground in Iraq, we lack the ability to choose targets, to rebuild the capacity of the Iraqi Army quickly and successfully, to constrain the Shiite government from pursuing a sectarian agenda. Without large numbers of troops in Syria, we are unable to distinguish between friend and foe, to train and direct non-Qaeda opposition forces, to address the humanitarian crisis, and to prepare for—and hasten—a world without Bashar Assad./ 'Only American ground troops can defeat the Islamic State' The Washington Free Beacon: http://freebeacon.com/columns/accept-no-substitutes/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : /Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting.// // //According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome./ With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. /'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport'/ http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall of Istanbul Cripples Europe
On 10/11/2014 2:59 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It doesn't appear that ISIS and al-Qaeda can sustain its dominion unless it has some kind of cooperation by the people in its so called caliphate. Without cooperation by the people in Iraq and Syria and the rest of the world, the militants will soon fall by the sheer force of nature against its existence. REYHANLI, Turkey — The U.S.-led air war in Syria has gotten off to a rocky start, with even the Syrian rebel groups closest to the United States turning against it, U.S. ally Turkey refusing to contribute and the plight of a beleaguered Kurdish town exposing the limitations of the strategy... 'U.S.-led air war in Syria is off to a difficult start' The Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/us-led-air-war-in-syria-is-off-to-a-difficult-start-with-moderate-rebels-disenchanted/2014/10/10/e0949dfa-4fe9-11e4-aa5e-7153e466a02d_story.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : /As ISIS continues to advance on the Syrian town of Kobani and close in on Turkey’s border, experts in Islamic radical movements think the terror group may merge with its al-Qaeda mother organization soon. Together, the group would represent the greatest terror threat to the civilized world./ 'The Merger of ISIS and al-Qaeda Could Cripple the Civilized World' http://finance.yahoo.com/news/merger-isis-al-qaeda-could-104500024.html /ISIS and al Qaeda at the gates of Europe/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
On 10/11/2014 4:03 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Yeah, of course you can find MANY who would be part of arranging a false flag for 9-11. If you don't agree with every single word of this guy's rant, YOU'RE FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD. Duveyoung Wed, 08 Oct 2014 10:02:10 -0700 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg332298.html /O'Keefe denied the plausibility that the September 11 attacks were committed by Osama bin Laden and the 19 hijackers. He claimed it was an inside job and that the US government and intelligence agencies, including Mossad were responsible./ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_O%27Keefe
Re: [FairfieldLife] FWIW: Gaudapada and Buddha
/You must be new around here - we already discussed this with emptybill. LoL!/ On 10/11/2014 4:21 PM, cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Wikipaedia: Gaudapada wrote or compiled^[24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTENakamura2004308-31 the Māṇḍukya Kārikā, also known as the Gauḍapāda Kārikā and as the Āgama Śāstra.^[note 7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-32 Gaudapda took over the Buddhist doctrines that ultimate reality is pure consciousness (/vijñapti-mātra/) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogacara#Representation-only^[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTERaju1992177-2 Gaudapada wove [both doctrines] into a philosophy of the /Mandukaya Upanisad/, which was further developed by Shankara.^Vedanta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTERaju1992177-178-33 image http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTERaju1992177-178-33 Vedanta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTERaju1992177-178-33 Yoga View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTERaju1992177-178-33 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Bruce on Bob
On 10/10/2014 7:46 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Friday afternoon off, I'm sitting in a cafe listening to the three Dylan songs that Bruce mentioned. He was right on about that, BTW. If there is a Top Ten Best Songs Ever Written The very best song of all time hands down is Bob Dylan's /Like a Rolling Stone/ composed in June 1965 from the album /Highway 61 Revisited/. /When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose// //You're invisible now, you got no secrets to conceal./ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1TKUk9nXjk
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terrorists At The Gates! [1 Attachment]
On 10/10/2014 9:13 AM, geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Enjoy cowering from the bogey-man Tex. Remember to pull the covers up! /Only an idiot wouldn't cower in he face of an Ebola outbreak, a drug cartel kidnapping, or an ISIS invasion. You come down here and take a look around and then look me straight in the eye and tell me you're not scared./ The drug cartels use the same operational plan as terrorist groups do ... They kill their opponents, they behead their opponents, they brag about it and they have operational control of many portions of the southern border of the United States. They're vicious as some of these other terrorist organizations. ISIS, Mexican Drug Cartels Are 'Talking to Each Other' http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/08/20/GOP-Rep-ISIS-and-Mexican-Drug-Cartels-Are-Talking-to-Each-Other
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fleetwood's Vision of Barry's Life
On 10/10/2014 10:03 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Beautiful pictures! /We look forward to seeing any photos taken by the FFL respondents. Thanks./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Meanwhile, Xeno contemplates the dark side of the force, as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : shower running in the background Barry, humming his fave Bruce Cockburn tune, steps out, notices the floor got all wet - let the fukin' roomies mop it up... Hey good lookin'... he says to the mirror, imagining him and Bruce, pals, just like him and Curtis...bros, in a rock n' roll world. He tousles his thinning hair, slaps some Stetson after-shave on his sagging jowls, pulls on his Jerry Garcia t-shirt (signed by the Dalai Lama), some jeans, and shuffles, a little hurriedly, towards that favorite bar of his, Le Petite Chausser. Sure, no one ever says a word to him, but he's got 'em convinced of his popularity on the 'Net -- a sideways glance to no one, a secret chuckle at the screen, a little too loud, perhaps an escape of laughter, as the ever convivial waitress approaches, for Barry's inevitable third drink order, and inevitable over-tip. Reading a little too much into her social nature, Barry tried once, to explain the cult addicted idiots on his laptop. She smiled, but he heard her laughing quietly, as she walked away. bitch. Oh well, at least an hour or two out of his room - ...fukin' roomies - fukin' conformist Dutch - fukin' Maharishi - fukin Steve - fukin Judy - fukin Jimbo - fukin Robin, Share, jr, Richard, Jedi, Ann, Em, Rory, Bob Price, and all the rest of those losers...Ah, at last, Fairfieldlife has loaded, I hate those fukers...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Important Call to Action--FAIRFIELD RESIDENTS
/The hog containment business and environmental crises isn't going to go away any time soon - they want tons of spam over in China and they are willing to pay big bucks for it; and with a pro-agra Republican Governor in office and a cowed EPA, my advice is: / * /avoid drinking tap water/ * /move your family as far upstream as possible/ /Those little towns might as well straight-pipe their sewage to the river, he scoffed. Compared to what comes in from agriculture, it wouldn't make any difference./ Mother Jones: http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/03/hog-wild-factory-farms-are-poisoning-iowas-drinking-water Iowa Lakes, Rivers and Water Resources: http://geology.com/lakes-rivers-water/iowa.shtml On 10/10/2014 10:44 AM, 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Dear Friends, Hog confinements are increasing in Southeast Iowa, driven by China’s growing pork demand. The threat to Jefferson County is real. We must do all in our power to stand up to this menace. Fortunately for us, Jefferson County Farmers Neighbors, Inc. (JFAN) is leading the fight to preserve our quality of life and community. If it weren’t for JFAN’s efforts over these past nine years, Jefferson County would likely be overrun with CAFOs by now. The JFAN Annual Meeting is just around the corner. JFAN has put together a dynamite meeting featuring three powerful champions of communities and the environment. */It’s Time to Change ‘Business As Usual’/* will take place next Wednesday, October 15, at 7:30 pm at the Fairfield Arts Convention Center. National food and farm advocate *Wenonah Hauter*, Executive Director of Food Water Watch, will address how a handful of powerful agricultural corporations have profoundly influenced the US political system. As a result, we have agricultural policies that favor industrial livestock production at the expense of people and the environment. Hauter’s message includes how people /_can and must_/ transform the present system from “business as usual’ to “business that benefits all.” Back by popular demand, nationally renowned environmental attorneys *Charlie Speer* and *Richard Middleton* will join Fairfield attorney and JFAN president *David E. Sykes* to present an important legal update on CAFO activities in Jefferson and surrounding counties. They will discuss the CAFO situation in Jefferson County and Southeast Iowa and what is being done to deter additional development. These presentations, in and of themselves, are compelling and not to be missed. _But more than ever, it is crucial at this time to stand up for the quality of life of our precious Super Radiance community and demonstrate we are united in this pursuit_. *Because this is so important, I strongly encourage you to attend the JFAN Annual Meeting. Together, let’s send a message, loud and clear, that CAFOs are unacceptable and unwanted in Jefferson County. When 500 people pack the house at the JFAN Annual Meeting, the pork industry hears that our community means business. * This is such a simple, enjoyable, */and effective/* way for you to help protect our community from more unwanted factory farms*. *I can’t emphasize enough the impact you can have by being part of a full house next Wednesday. */It demonstrates our community cares. /* *Please mark your calendar for October 15 and join me at the Sondheim Center to hear Wenonah Hauter, Charlie Speer and Richard Middleton at the JFAN Annual Meeting. Your participation in this event will go a long way towards safeguarding all we hold dear in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. * Thank you for all your enlightened support of our community. Many thanks, Raja John Hagelin
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/9/2014 12:14 PM, netineti108 wrote: /Neti sez: / /What did Adi Shankara say was the fastest method to Liberation in this Kali Yuga?/ / / /Bhaja Govinda is the correct answer./ /A//ccording to the Adi Shankara, the author of the Soundaryalahari, the bija mantra of Shakti is the fastest method to liberation in the Kali Yuga. All//the Shankaracharya Saraswati dandi sannyasins up to and including SBS meditate on the Saraswati bija mantra at least twice each day. This is a fact./ / / On 10/10/2014 11:46 AM, netineti108 wrote: Adi Shankara wrote Bhaja Govindam... //All//the Shankaracharya Saraswati dandi sannyasins up to and including SBS meditate on the Saraswati bija mantra at least twice each day. They say this is the /fastest method to Liberation in the Kali Yuga - a seeded meditation using bija mantra. This is stated very clearly in the Tantra Soundaryalahari by the Adi Shankaracharya himself. /
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/Mexican police have captured suspected Juarez drug cartel leader Vicente Carrillo Fuentes, whose gang engaged in turf wars that have left thousands of people dead, authorities said Thursday./ http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-mexico-arrests-juarez-drug-cartel-leader-2014-10 /Mexican Drug Cartels Operating Inside American Borders: Sadly, Phoenix, Arizona is now in second place in the world, only behind Mexico City for kidnapping and sex trafficking. / http://www.thedailysheeple.com/mexican-drug-cartels-operating-inside-american-borders_042013
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's On Your Mind?
/In order to avoid getting infected by the Ebola virus every traveler should follow these precautions:/ * Stay three feet away from any Ebola victim * Do not touch any body fluids of someone who is sick * Wear a mask over your mouth and nose, waterproof gloves, a gown and eye protection * If you develop a fever over 103, isolate yourself * Go immediately to the nearest free clinic * Avoid all public transportation /DALLAS - Thomas Eric Duncan's temperature spiked to 103 degrees during the hours of his initial visit to an emergency room... Associated Press: http://tinyurl.com/p3fljta/ /So, the D-68 enterovirus is claiming lives around the country and some people are concerned, asking the important questions. Where did the virus originate and how did we get it? You'd think there would be information on about this on FFL, right? // // //Just One Minute: Didn't we have an influx of central American children to the US this summer? Weren't there concerns about diseases spreading in the holding camps? Weren't the children dispersed all across this great nation? My initial guess was that since Texas was not showing up as one the early states with an outbreak, the disease was less likely to be associated with immigrants./ - Tom Maguire http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2014/10/moving-to-phase-ii-of-the-enterovirus-coverage.html The CDC has just one job! /You had one job! is the punchline on a popular Internet meme involving organizational screw-ups. Now critics are saying something similar about the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in response the agency's handling of the Ebola outbreak./ - Glenn Harlan Reynolds USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/10/05/ebola-cdc-jobs-tasks-multitasking-thomas-duncan-column/16766801/ /...there are a million people in isolation, in quarantine, because of Ebola, and ten thousand passengers leave West Africa every single day. It's just a matter of time before this disease is carried to every corner of the world./ CBS Philly: http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/10/03/missouri-doctor-its-just-a-matter-of-time-before-ebola-is-carried-to-every-corner-of-the-world/ /Addressing the important issues:// // //According to Tom Frieden, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, we must be relentless in stopping the spread of ebola in West Africa. After all, after all is said and done here, that is the only way to truly and completely protect the health security of America -- and the world. By January there could be millions of people infected with the virus. // Asking the important questions: // //Who is going to spend the money to keep this epidemic contained so that it doesn't turn into a pandemic? How much would it cost to invent a vaccine? How will military units on the ground have the discipline, the will and the resources to mobilize tomorrow, build treatment centers really fast and deliver the care and medicine needed?// Taking action: // //The U.S. has boots are on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan and now 3,600 troops are being sent into Liberia to help manage the crises. How many boots on the ground and how much money will it take to defeat ISIS and the Ebola?/ 'Pentagon Sending 600 More Military Personnel to Fight Ebola in Africa' http://tinyurl.com/ppx4xhj 'Ebola virus: Pandemic should be treated 'the same way' as threat posed by nuclear weapons, security officials say' The Independent: http://tinyurl.com/poc6r9j 'Five blunders US made in treating country's first Ebola patient' The Telegraph: http://tinyurl.com/nhuek6c /For anyone paying attention, the long-brewing crisis hardly came out of nowhere./ 'We Screwed Up On Ebola, And Now The Crisis Is Getting Much Worse' https://finance.yahoo.com/news/screwed-ebola-response-result-cost-073019431.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch Questions 9-11
On 10/10/2014 11:23 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Should cause some commotion here: http://www.infowars.com/twin-peaks-creator-questions-911/ /The only plausible explanation for the September 11 attacks is that the act was committed by Osama bin Laden and the 19 hijackers. There is zero evidence that the attack was an inside job and that the US government and intelligence agencies, including Mossad were responsible./
Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch Questions 9-11
On 10/10/2014 11:40 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Watching the clips from Twin Peaks on this piece reminds me of what a sick twisted bizarro Lynch is and therefore the perfect spokesperson for the TMO /This is a vindication of suggestibility - a false flag planted by a science writer is immediately taken seriously by a reporter. The power of suggestion. It works. Case in point./ *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, October 10, 2014 12:23 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] David Lynch Questions 9-11 Should cause some commotion here: http://www.infowars.com/twin-peaks-creator-questions-911/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
On 10/10/2014 2:54 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: We allege it was a conspiracy by a faction in the government and some corporations. /We allege that the U.S. Government can't even design a web site, much less conduct a secret conspiracy to demolish the WTC./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara
//All//the Shankaracharya Saraswati dandi sannyasins up to and including SBS meditate on the Saraswati bija mantra at least twice each day. They say this is the /fastest method to Liberation in the Kali Yuga - a seeded meditation using bija mantra. This is stated very clearly in the Tantra Soundaryalahari by the Adi Shankaracharya himself. / / / On 10/10/2014 4:15 PM, netineti108 wrote: Have you ever spent time with them and asked of what their sadhana consists? /All the Shankaracharya Advaita sannyasin worship Shakti, this is a fact. According to Shankara's Soundaryalahari, all sannyasins meditate twice a day on the bija manntra of Sri Vidya. / /Maybe it's time to review the Shankaracharya parampara:// // //Narayana// //Padma Bhava// //Vasishtha// //Shakti// //Parashara// //Badarayana// //Shudadeva// //Gaudapapda// //Govinda// //Shankara// //Trotaka// //Brahmanand*// //Shantanand// //Vishnudevanand// //Vasudevanand// // //*The swami is said to have been one of those rare siddhas (accomplished ones) who had the knowledge of Sri Vidya// // //Works Cited:// // //Rama, Swami (1999) Himalayan Institute, Living With the Himalayan Masters, page 247// // //http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmananda_Saraswati/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
On 10/8/2014 10:18 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Looking at it honestly, Michael, I believe you are predisposed to be a malcontent. I think it is just your personality. /He probably hasn't changed much since he was a teenager and it has already been established that practicing TM, TMSP or any other yoga technique, doesn't change anyone's personality. When someone subscribes to a discussion group they can present themselves as anything they want to be. Why some people want to preach to an online spiritual discussion group and pose as spiritual teachers, instead of just seekers, is beyond me (no pun intended). / You happened upon this TM, and the trigger for your disenchantment, if I recall correctly was the air quality in the dome, or some such thing. Probably the powers that be, did not handle the situation properly, but I suspect that it was only a matter of time before some other situation would arise which would become your wedge issue. Or maybe, you just made progress to a certain point, and now you are in your consolidation period. That may be the more likely scenario being that you can't go more than a couple hours without some reflection of TM. (and of course, there is the matter of what eating a piece of pizza does to you) (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. I agree that may be true for some, the problem is that the Old Fraud and his organization, the Movement have always make outrageous unsupportable claims for the efficacy and benefits of of TM for EVERYONE. This gives people who know nothing about TM unreasonable expectations and sets them up for disappointment on many levels. If one reads and listens to the hype about TM and TMSP the existence of a mental/emotional state that would lead one to be a child molester should not be possible in someone who has done TMSP for decades. Yet it happens. If the TMO billed TM for what it actually is, instead of what they claim for it, I would never say a word. It is the fraud, the lies and the misuse of people that makes the TMO a fundamentally corrupt and disgusting organization. And the meditation itself is mediocre - it is not the superlative better than any other technique, superior to all others the Movement does and Marshy did claim that it is. *From:* Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:18 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, who has molested children, has been a TM advocate. So too has Father Gabriel Mejia been a TM advocate. And he has rescued hundreds of Columbian street children with TM central to his efforts. What reasonable conclusions can be drawn from these opposite stories? Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. From my own experience I'd say that TM is necessary for full psychological development. But in some cases, it is not sufficient. Nor is TM sufficient to heal a toothache. Or a broken finger. Or a floundering marriage. Again, in my own experience, I'd say TM is perfect for preparing the ground for healing. And I think of it as my only spiritual practice. What I do to deal with my Attachment Disorder, those I think of as my healing modalities. They are complementary to my TM practice. But they could never replace it. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:04 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *From:* Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl And where are the TM apologists here on FFL on this revelation? Deadly silent! They have shifted into shoot the messenger mode. There is, after all, *nothing* they can say to apologize away one of the TMO's superstars being investigated for child molestation. So since they can't excuse it away, they'll try to distract from it by attacking you and anyone else who brings it up. Hadn't you noticed this trend? All of the lurking reporters have.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
On 10/9/2014 2:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: the Stephen Collins incidents are 20 to 40 years ago, so he definitely could have grown quite a large banana with TM long since. Also we don't really know the truth from a therapy session tape, as any man who has been married could well imagine what weird things you might say, for whatever reason, especially an actor or other creative person, when at odds with the aggrieved female mind. Oh My God. There really IS such a thing as a TM True Believer so lost in his Believerism that he's willing to try to distract from child molestation by invoking misogyny. /OMG! Some people will use any tragedy if they think it will help them win a religious debate. Go figure./ For the record, srijau, the problem is NOT with how large Stephen Collins' banana is, but where he chose to stick it (an underaged girl), and the fact that his efforts for the David Lynch Foundation gave him unfettered access to hundreds of similarly-aged girls. Even male minds should be able to get that. titillate transitive verb: 1. to excite pleasurably : arouse by stimulation intransitive verb: 1. to act as a stimulant to pleasurable excitement a film made to titillate the audience. writing that titillates and provokes. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/titillatet
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
On 10/9/2014 1:58 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The stuff they believe doesn't need to be reasonable, it doesn't need to follow the laws of physics or chemistry, and it doesn't depend on any kind of evidence. In fact, when presented with evidence that proves their belief to be nonsense, they believe even more strongly. Truly an accomplishment... /What I'm talking about is slowly lifting up off the sofa and sitting// //in midair for two to three minutes. Or stepping up off the ground in// //the desert and then flying around several feet above the ground for // //a while. / http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
On 10/9/2014 3:54 AM, salyavin808 wrote: The stuff they believe doesn't need to be reasonable, it doesn't need to follow the laws of physics or chemistry, and it doesn't depend on any kind of evidence. In fact, when presented with evidence that proves their belief to be nonsense, they believe even more strongly. Truly an accomplishment... Yes indeed, something to be proud of. Indeed. /What I'm talking about is slowly lifting up off the sofa and sitting// //in midair for two to three minutes. Or stepping up off the ground in// //the desert and then flying around several feet above the ground for // //a while. // // //http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
On 10/9/2014 4:28 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sometimes I think that Maharishi's greatest accomplishment should be listed as having taken so many at-one-time-fairly-intelligent people and, over time, turned them into weak-minded, gullible idiots like jr_esq, Share, srijau, Lawson, and others we see from time to time here on FFL. These people will believe *anything* if 1) they're told that Maharishi or some other Seller Of Woo Woo believed in it, and 2) it makes them feel more self-important and 'special' for believing it. The stuff they believe doesn't need to be reasonable, it doesn't need to follow the laws of physics or chemistry, and it doesn't depend on any kind of evidence. In fact, when presented with evidence that proves their belief to be nonsense, they believe even more strongly. Truly an accomplishment... Yes indeed, something to be proud of. The sad thing is that he (Maharishi) *would* actually be proud of it. He'd think of it as the triumph of faith. He'd smile and tell the story of Trotakacharya again. :-) /The sad thing is that he (Rama) was doing the heavy lifting, while TurqB sat on //his bum and tried to hop. Go figure./ /The person levitating or flying through the air was a guy named Frederick Lenz, who also called himself Rama. What I'm talking about is slowly lifting up off the sofa and sitting in midair for two to three minutes. Or stepping up off the ground in the desert and then flying around several feet above the ground for a while. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231/ I first came across it when attending a coherence day at the local academy (where I later lived) we were in the garden on a starry night and looking around the night sky and I was pointing out various things of interest like which planets were which and how far the nearest galaxy is when this purusha guy turned to me and said And just think it's all consciousness. What's troubling is it was said with an intimation that it was an improvement or a superior explanation to just thinking that the universe is made of energy and stuff. It worries me because scientific and religious explanations don't mix very well but the quantum crowd think they've found a way of fitting the one into the other, or at least blinding people with enough abstract concepts so they think the two things belong together. It does annoy me too because people, like John, seem genuinely interested in physics and the sort of things it explains really well and the amazing discoveries and concepts of cosmology. But with this training in vedic beliefs he gets from the TMO he doesn't have a way of grading the knowledge for quality. Exactly. The *only* measure of quality he seems to employ is If it agrees with what I've been told to believe...then it is good, and correct. The most disturbing thing about John (jr_esq, not Hagelin, but him, too) is that they no longer even *realize* how non-scientific they've become when they spout what they now believe is science. Put either of them in a room with real scientists and let them express the things they believe in, and the real scientists would have them pegged as crackpots within five minutes. After 20 minutes, the real scientists would running for the door, so as not to be stuck in a room with a crazy person any longer. There are only two types of explanation, good ones and bad ones. Consciousness in this context seems like a bad one because (like god) it actually explains nothing, adds nothing useful and in fact, adds a layer of complexity where it isn't needed... Exactly. Almost without exception, all of their theories about how the universe works are more complex than the real scientific explanations. It's like they've become proponents of the Anti-Occam's Razor Principle. ...because consciousness is a /thing/ in this theory, a field of pure awareness and intelligence. All of these things imply a direction to creation and evolution that it doesn't seem to have. And it obviously requires another explanation beyond the equations describing quantum behaviour, and it would be an explanation along the lines of intelligence processing etc. Bit of a tall order for something we can't even measure! It's OK for John Hagelin to believe that this is the case but he shouldn't start his lectures without a major caveat to the effect that he's trying to fit what he knows of physics into an ancient belief system and that no one else agrees with him. Apart from the other yagya pedlars on the conference circuit obviously. In this sense, Hagelin is actually closer to the role that Charlie Lutes played within the TM movement than anything else. Charlie used to pepper his talks with all sorts of esoteric crap that he'd learned from his days studying Western Mysticism. Which would
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
On 10/9/2014 6:33 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Frankly, doing absolutely nothing except stirring the pot here, makes you appear as kind of a loser, to normal people. /Having been a military brat myself I can understand how an expat like Barry can be lonely and feel like a loser with nobody to talk to. In most cases the brats spend most of their time reading about what's going on in the U.S. - the center of the universe - and talking among themselves to try and figure out how they wound up in the back of beyond and how many days til they can get out. They watch American movies, go on social media to talk to their friends back home. In order to get attention they may even sometimes try to cause forum riots, just so they can get noticed by someone, anyone./ Motivation: * Attention-seeking: The troll seeks to dominate the thread by inciting anger, and effectively hijacking the topic at hand. * Cry for help: An indication of disturbing situations regarding family, relationships, substances, and schools. * Effect change: Stating extreme positions to make his or her actual beliefs seem moderate.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
On 10/9/2014 6:56 AM, blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You know Steve, it took others years to find his true character. Bob Price managed to find that out in just a few minutes time. Bob's so sharp, Uncle Tantra cannot face him. Uncle Tantra's criticism is designed to be offensive in a sadistic sense. /Thanks, blue_ that makes me feel better. All my postings are not meant to be sadistic, just dumb comments.//If I had been able to think of something sadistic, I would have sent it to Judy years ago. Go figure./ --- steve.sundur@... wrote : Okay Blue, thanks for the advice. But wasting my life?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
On 10/9/2014 7:11 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: turq shows what a great master Maharishi was and is. The purpose of a master is to help the students see their delusions. Maharishi has explained that fear is the last negative emotion to go. From the Gita: certainly fear is borne of duality. /TurqB has done a pretty good job since 1995 keeping the conversation going and building up MMY, so I want to give credit where credit is due. Thanks to people like Barry, meditation is now a household word all over the planet - each of us in our own way, either way. Good work!/ As long as we feel separate from the world, we will feel fear, though maybe on a deep level. And then we humans attempt to feel safe. Mainly modern people try to feel safe by having figured out life. Even turq does this. Women generally try to feel safe by feeling loved; men by being competent. It's from our cave days and hardwired into our noggins. Specialness is a subset of these. If the tribe chief loves us or if we're his right hand man, we'll get the best pieces of wooly mammouth. At any moment, even this one, we are all acting from some percentage of fullness or safety and some percentage of emptiness or fear. Hope this helps you feel safer. Meanwhile, a little colloidal silver every day (-: On Thursday, October 9, 2014 6:33 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: it makes them feel more self-important and 'special' for believing it. */ /* Now, it may come as a complete shock to you, dude, but you appear pretty damned self-important, and 'special', most of the time, pronouncing judgment on a lot of good people, for no other reason, than to forget your own truly pathetic existence. You may think this is a grand game, a pushing of buttons, but you are hardly one to point fingers. Sure, Barry, you live in Europe, but THAT IS ALL YOU DO. You might as well live in Nebraska, for all it gets you. Anyone can drink beer, watch TV, and think up inflammatory shit to write on the Internet. That doesn't make you smart, or witty, or wise. Frankly, doing absolutely nothing except stirring the pot here, makes you appear as kind of a loser, to normal people. A tragic figure, with not enough experience to stand on his own, needing to climb on others' backs, to appear taller to himself. One could refer to you as, a shoe lift of a man. Why don't you get off of here, and actually DO something? Write a book. Take the train to another country. Go on a date. Build something. Visit a museum. Such a tired old fart, doing nothing in your virtual Nebraska, except pissing in other people's pools. If you could only see it, the red would rise in your face. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sometimes I think that Maharishi's greatest accomplishment should be listed as having taken so many at-one-time-fairly-intelligent people and, over time, turned them into weak-minded, gullible idiots like jr_esq, Share, srijau, Lawson, and others we see from time to time here on FFL. These people will believe *anything* if 1) they're told that Maharishi or some other Seller Of Woo Woo believed in it, and 2) it makes them feel more self-important and 'special' for believing it. The stuff they believe doesn't need to be reasonable, it doesn't need to follow the laws of physics or chemistry, and it doesn't depend on any kind of evidence. In fact, when presented with evidence that proves their belief to be nonsense, they believe even more strongly. Truly an accomplishment... *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, If you believe that the universe is based in consciousness, I don't. That's the problem, just believing stuff about the universe and hoping you can find enough things to justify beliefs you have already decided are true without any evidence is no way to go about learning what's going on. The idea that thoughts are entangled quantumly with the rest of the universe is nonsense, classical information - that which can distinguish one thing from another - cannot get entangled and therefore can't be transmitted. then our thoughts are somehow entangled in a quantum sense with the rest of the universe. So, it is possible to communicate telepathically with other sentient beings instantaneously in our galaxy or with the rest of the universe. I'm sure that if it was possible we'd be able to do it here, probably wouldn't even need this internet thingy in the way. As it is we appear separate from each other. There used to be a question similar to the following: if a tree fell in a forest of an earth-like planet
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
On 10/9/2014 6:56 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:29 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact? Relax Steve, have you re-incarnated as Judy here? Some change seems to have come over you. Listen, you just can't bother about him. You will be wasting your life that way. Judy wasted hers. Jim wasted his. His intention is to provoke you. You keep falling into his trap again and again. For the record, I never placed jedi_spock on my Do Not Read list. *Most* of the time his stuff isn't worth reading, but I still give his posts a shot because there is the off chance he might say something useful. As in this post, trying to clue Steve and Jim into how obsessed they've become, and what that says about their *own* lack of intelligence and discrimination. /The discussions have to be based on the // //assumption that we are discussing matters of // //*opinion*. No one is right, no one is wrong./// From: Uncle Tantra Subject: An Orwellian redefinition of leaving Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: November 22, 2003
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
The stuff they believe doesn't need to be reasonable, it doesn't need to follow the laws of physics or chemistry, and it doesn't depend on any kind of evidence. In fact, when presented with evidence that proves their belief to be nonsense, they believe even more strongly. Truly an accomplishment... On 10/9/2014 8:51 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Oh, bawee, you're too humble. Let's, for just a minute, talk about your accomplishment. Let me wax, just for a moment, about all that you have achieved here at FFL and perhaps in your other life too. You have managed, single-handedly, to have repeated yourself over and over and over and over again on the same meme, using the same tone, the same words for at least as long as I've been reading here. This is no small thing - that you would find the time and the energy and the will to be able, not to mention keen, to do this day after day. It surely exceeds my ability to take it all in day after day after day. You are the man. You are the one who never tires of hearing yourself say the same thing again and again. And you are, evidently, the person who believes others are taking any of what you write time and time and time again as anything but the result of a fellow so high on himself and what he believes that he feels the rest of us have an infinite capacity to keep reading your fluff post after empty post. Congratulations. /Are you insinuating that Barry is posting redundant fluff messages to get the attention of a lurking reporter?//Maybe he is still suffering from his beat-down from Judy. Maybe he just needs someone to talk to. Anyway, thanks for trying to help him//, Ann.//We will probably never know why he went over to the other side. Go figure./ I also saw myself portrayed on the front page of newspapers as a dangerous, evil cultist because I was in their community teaching people how to meditate for free, paying for every poster I put up, every hall I rented, ever tape or CD or book I gave away myself. From: Uncle Tantra Subject: Open Letter To Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: August 6, 2003
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
Other than that, I don't think you give a damn. Settle back down. On 10/9/2014 9:06 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You are on the money here, Steve. bawee finds himself suddenly animated from his slouch on the TV couch when he smells the equivalent of bacon frying in the kitchen. As soon as the odor of some half-baked story wafts onto FFL he is all over it, salivating. /It's probably a cry for help - where is Dr. Pete when we need him?/ I don't quite see the connection of how a man in his 20's who allegedly was guilty of gross sexual misconduct with children has much to do with whatever his connection to the TM movement is now and how that reflects badly on the movement. How does it all compute? /After so many years of getting humiliated on social media, he will stoop to almost any level these days, including a tragedy, a suicide, or even a natural disaster, in order to win a religious debate. / Is it that some asshole pedophile eventually became a Hollywood actor and somehow became endorsed by the TM movement and has now been exposed 4 decades later as a pedophile therefore makes TM invalid or the movement suspect because they didn't know this guy had sexually abused young children 40 years ago and now they do and... I'm confused. /It's a sign of desperation - so desperate to win that people like Barry will do almost anything to prove their point, even if their debating opponent is dead - or gone missing./ /./ What great revelation am I missing here? How does 4+7= 13? //It's probably very difficult for an egotist like TurqB to get over being discredited for so long - it's been what, //38 years since he got kicked out of the TMO and 28 years since his teacher committed suicide. Then he gets beat up by Judy for another 10 years. It's probably been a tough two or three decades for Uncle Tantra, as far as his dreams of being a spiritual teacher. Maybe next time. Go figure./ /
Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: special event invitation | 30thNovember.com [1 Attachment]
On 10/9/2014 10:31 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: a way for them to make money. So, let's try to put all this into context. /I also saw myself portrayed on the front page of newspapers as a// //dangerous, evil cultist because I was in their community teaching people// //how to meditate for free, paying for every poster I put up, every hall I// //rented, ever tape or CD or book I gave away myself./ - Unc From: Uncle Tantra Subject: Open Letter To Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: August 6, 2003
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara
On 10/9/2014 12:14 PM, netineti108 wrote: /Neti sez: / /What did Adi Shankara say was the fastest method to Liberation in this Kali Yuga?/ / / /Bhaja Govinda is the correct answer./ /A//ccording to the Adi Shankara, the author of the Soundaryalahari, the bija mantra of Shakti is the fastest method to liberation in the Kali Yuga. All//the Shankaracharya Saraswati dandi sannyasins up to and including SBS meditate on the Saraswati bija mantra at least twice each day. This is a fact./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terrorists At The Gates!
On 10/9/2014 12:38 PM, geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: As usual Tex, you need to get some smarts Coming soon to a neighborhood near you? /Todd Bensman is the San Antonio Express-News reporter who conducted his own investigation into American border security over the course of a four-part series for the paper. Published this past May, the four installments of the series are accessible here.../ Have Terrorists crossed? By Todd Bensman http://tinyurl.com/yuqmgw 'Breaching America' Posted by Scott Mirengoff: Powerline, July 09, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/yv6epz
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
YOU ARE SIMPLY NOT INTERESTING ENOUGH FOR ME TO BOTHER ARGUING WITH. YOU NEVER WILL BE, NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT ME. On 10/9/2014 12:43 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *You really told him, bawee. Guess he got under your skin. Did your keyboard melt while you were typing that? * * */HE WILL NEVER PREACH FOR THE TMO OR THE RAMA CULT AGAIN!//HE SUCKED AS A SPIRITUAL TEACHER./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vonnegut (was Somebody Rick should interview tto tlls a joke.)
On 10/9/2014 11:16 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I spoke up because Kurt Vonnegut was one of my favorite authors growing up. If he was ambivalent enough about TM and its benefits to resist being cast in the role of TM cheerleader during life, I for one am not going to stand by and see him cast in that role in death. He was a crotchety old bastard, but he had a way with words. Both are qualities dear to my heart. :-) /And it should be noted, Vonnegut disbelieved in the para-normal and he thought people joined cults because they were lonely. Go figure./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact?
On 10/9/2014 4:10 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It also really bothers him that we continually comment on him, not giving a fig for his response. He apparently like to feel embattled, and almost as a martyr, who tries his best to bring The Light to the unwashed masses. He is really quite crazy, now. About ten years ago, Barry was all about being the Coolest Cat on the block. Slowly that has receded, and now all he does is spew endless diatribes against that which he cannot have. These days he sounds really JELLOS. Go figure. /After an exhilarating ride down the mountain on my snowboard, I reached the bottom of the slope where – much to my surprise – I found Master Fwap waiting for me. He had a huge grin on his face!/ - Surfing the Himalayas: A Spiritual Adventure, by Frederick Lenz, 1996. http://www.illicitsnowboarding.com/2009/11/notorious-snowboarder-1-dr-frederick_22.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sara Palin's Crazy Clown Time...
On 10/9/2014 9:36 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: I don't know which is more bizarre: /So, which is more bizarre: the Republican War Against Women or the Democratic War Against Sarah Palin?//Go figure./ 'There Is a War on Women, But Not From Republicans U.S. News World Report: http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2014/01/30/the-media-not-the-republican-party-is-waging-war-on-women?src=usn_tw Palin Clan Brawl: Seven Amazing Moments Revealed By The Police Report http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/palin-brawl-police-report-amazing-moments image http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/palin-brawl-police-report-amazing-moments Palin Clan Brawl: Seven Amazing Moments Reveal... http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/palin-brawl-police-report-amazing-moments It may have been the fight of the decade, at least in Alaska. And on Thursday, many of its salacious details were laid bare when Anchorage police finally released t... View on talkingpoint... http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/palin-brawl-police-report-amazing-moments Preview by Yahoo or David Lynch - Crazy Clown Time (Official Video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caWXt9lCVrc image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caWXt9lCVrc David Lynch - Crazy Clown Time (Official Video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caWXt9lCVrc The self-directed video for Crazy Clown Time, the new single from the multi-talented director and songwriter David Lynch. David Lynch 'Crazy Clown T... View on www.youtube... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caWXt9lCVrc Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terrorists At The Gates! [1 Attachment]
On 10/9/2014 4:54 PM, geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You won't get that reading right-wingnut trash reports. /With the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria growing in the Middle East, nearly half of Americans think the country is less safe than it was before Sept. 11, 2001, according to a recent poll. /'Is ISIS planning to cross the Mexican border?' Tampa Bay Times: http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/politifact-is-isis-in-mexico-and-planning-to-cross-the-border/2198324 /ISIS terrorists moving toward Texas-American border/
[FairfieldLife] Zero Hour in Hong Kong
/Hong Kong At The Barricades: At the risk violence and arrest tens of thousands of Hong Kongers have demanded democratic self-government in the strongest authoritarian government on the planet. Go figure.// // //The Unfinished Business of Zero Hour in Hong Kong:/ http://online.wsj.com/articles/david-feith-hong-kong-at-the-barricades-1412721907
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's On Your Mind?
/So, the D-68 enterovirus is claiming lives around the country and some people are concerned, asking the important questions. Where did the virus originate and how did we get it? You'd think there would be information on about this on FFL, right? // // //Just One Minute: Didn't we have an influx of central American children to the US this summer? Weren't there concerns about diseases spreading in the holding camps? Weren't the children dispersed all across this great nation? My initial guess was that since Texas was not showing up as one the early states with an outbreak, the disease was less likely to be associated with immigrants./ - Tom Maguire http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2014/10/moving-to-phase-ii-of-the-enterovirus-coverage.html The CDC has just one job! /You had one job! is the punchline on a popular Internet meme involving organizational screw-ups. Now critics are saying something similar about the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in response the agency's handling of the Ebola outbreak./ - Glenn Harlan Reynolds USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/10/05/ebola-cdc-jobs-tasks-multitasking-thomas-duncan-column/16766801/ /...there are a million people in isolation, in quarantine, because of Ebola, and ten thousand passengers leave West Africa every single day. It's just a matter of time before this disease is carried to every corner of the world./ CBS Philly: http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/10/03/missouri-doctor-its-just-a-matter-of-time-before-ebola-is-carried-to-every-corner-of-the-world/ /Addressing the important issues:// // //According to Tom Frieden, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, we must be relentless in stopping the spread of ebola in West Africa. After all, after all is said and done here, that is the only way to truly and completely protect the health security of America -- and the world. By January there could be millions of people infected with the virus. // Asking the important questions: // //Who is going to spend the money to keep this epidemic contained so that it doesn't turn into a pandemic? How much would it cost to invent a vaccine? How will military units on the ground have the discipline, the will and the resources to mobilize tomorrow, build treatment centers really fast and deliver the care and medicine needed?// Taking action: // //The U.S. has boots are on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan and now 3,600 troops are being sent into Liberia to help manage the crises. How many boots on the ground and how much money will it take to defeat ISIS and the Ebola?/ 'Pentagon Sending 600 More Military Personnel to Fight Ebola in Africa' http://tinyurl.com/ppx4xhj 'Ebola virus: Pandemic should be treated 'the same way' as threat posed by nuclear weapons, security officials say' The Independent: http://tinyurl.com/poc6r9j 'Five blunders US made in treating country's first Ebola patient' The Telegraph: http://tinyurl.com/nhuek6c /For anyone paying attention, the long-brewing crisis hardly came out of nowhere./ 'We Screwed Up On Ebola, And Now The Crisis Is Getting Much Worse' https://finance.yahoo.com/news/screwed-ebola-response-result-cost-073019431.html
[FairfieldLife] Asking The Important Questions
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[FairfieldLife] Ben Affleck and Sam Harris on Radical Islam
/Repeating the phrase radical Islam a billion times won't change the fact that we sell hundreds of billions of dollars in weapons to governments that promote fundamentalism, thus providing them with a greater base of power to foster these ideologies./ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/why-ben-affleck-is-right_b_5938270.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yes, Barry, there is no need to believe in God
On 10/8/2014 12:40 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: What he seems in need of is someone to obsess on. Namely me. I wrote him off and deprived him of an audience when he feels like yelling at someone and telling them how low they are and how high he is. Rather than live with that, I guess what Xeno is saying is that Jim keeps writing posts about how much he hates Barry *anyway*. If that's your idea of what enlightenment is, I wish you luck with it. To me, it makes it sound as if Jim is just another version of Steve and Ann and Willytex. Ignore any of them, and they obsess on you *more*, not less. /Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people./ - Eleanor Roosevelt
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yes, Barry, there is no need to believe in God
I don't feel hurt or bitter, and I cannot tell if Barry has such emotions, for as a writer, he assumes various points of view, not necessarily what he is himself experiencing, so I am always curious how you determine these characterisations. On 10/8/2014 2:14 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: If you're writing to Jimbo (I don't feel like scrolling down to find out), I'm pretty sure he does the same thing Willytex does, and just makes them up. /What I'm talking about is slowly lifting up off the sofa and sitting// //in midair for two to three minutes. Or stepping up off the ground in// //the desert and then flying around several feet above the ground for // //a while. / http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yes, Barry, there is no need to believe in God
On 10/8/2014 5:45 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: FYI, I think this is Barry's fourth or fifth post, on something I wrote, that he didn't read...I never did care much for fruitcake... /These two fellows don't seem to understand that when they create folders and filters for a group discussion, that indicates they are prejudiced against reading the messages of some the other informants. Barry already admitted that he was prejudiced. You could hardly expect an intelligent conversation when they don't even view messages in a threaded format and instead read them as sequential email, and take almost everything out of context in their replies. In a fair and balanced debate, participants are supposed to read the messages BEFORE they post their comments. They don't even have to be enlightened - just be able to think and reply with a little intelligence. Go figure./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : *From:* anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 5:26 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Yes, Barry, there is no need to believe in God Not likely, but why pray? How is that going to change the situation as you perceive it? I do have a certain tolerance for Jim; unlike Barry, I do read some of his posts, though their usual brevity and emotional coarseness is a turn off. (Barry's emotional coarseness is also sometimes a turn off, but I do not perceive him to have a genuine attachment to it, so mostly it is just fun.) Compassion for Jim is not necessary, he is enlightened by his own account, therefore not in need of it. What he seems in need of is someone to obsess on. Namely me. I wrote him off and deprived him of an audience when he feels like yelling at someone and telling them how low they are and how high he is. Rather than live with that, I guess what Xeno is saying is that Jim keeps writing posts about how much he hates Barry *anyway*. If that's your idea of what enlightenment is, I wish you luck with it. To me, it makes it sound as if Jim is just another version of Steve and Ann and Willytex. Ignore any of them, and they obsess on you *more*, not less.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yes, Barry, there is no need to believe in God
On 10/8/2014 6:19 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: 'Taxius, you make this shit up, and I have no idea where it comes from. /Mostly it comes from peer pressure - it's not difficult to see how much of an impression Barry has made on Xeno. The fact that Judy labeled Xeno a liar indicates that that Barry and Xeno would find an attraction with each other for ego self-defense. It's not complicated.// It looks like Xeno was so impressed with Barry that he spent hours, if not days, creating folders and filters so he could skip over your messages and Judy's too. So why exactly, did Judy call Xeno a liar? Was it something Xeno said? Until we figure out if these two guys are telling the truth, it's going to be difficult having a conversation with them. Go figure. / WTF do you mean, I have no need for compassion?! That is so...crazy. When I am not commenting (and sometimes cursing) on FFL, I enjoy a wonderful marriage, and being with my daughter, other relatives, and friends - Believe me, I am NOT some stone cold fool, off this forum. I lead a full, engaged life, with many wishes for success, and an abundance of love, both given and received. I enjoy a unique means of expression, here, broaching subjects and views, that if not accepted, are at least discussed and challenged. I DO NOT live my life, according to statements I make, about my liberation, my enlightenment, here on FFL, to the many people I have relationships with. I live a normal and natural life, the guy picking up a sixer of Mexican Coke (contains real sugar, not corn syrup), at the Safeway. I never see known 'spiritual teachers' or watch them on TV, or the net, or read books about God or spirituality or spiritual teachers, or associate with meditating, spiritual, or religious groups. Haven't been to a TM Center in almost twenty years. I have been at this spiritual life for nearly forty years, and aside from what I enjoy expressing here, the rest has long since been integrated, invisibly, into a normal life -- couldn't pick me out of a line-up. Hope that helps.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Not likely, but why pray? How is that going to change the situation as you perceive it? I do have a certain tolerance for Jim; unlike Barry, I do read some of his posts, though their usual brevity and emotional coarseness is a turn off. (Barry's emotional coarseness is also sometimes a turn off, but I do not perceive him to have a genuine attachment to it, so mostly it is just fun.) Compassion for Jim is not necessary, he is enlightened by his own account, therefore not in need of it. I would have better understanding if he was a little more clarifying about his experience. Sympathy is generally worthless as it just imitates someone's suffering or discomfort, or coddles their conditioning, which is what we desire to minimise. CYNIC: a person who believes that people are motivated purely by self-interest rather than acting for honourable or unselfish reasons. I am probably more of a fatalist than a cynic. I am more of a sceptic than a cynic. I think people are motivated by those forces we call laws of nature, and that there is not a real entity in there performing the action. Rather there is an elegant machine with inputs and outputs, and getting the mind of the machine, the processes of the machine to realise it is a machine is of paramount importance for its happiness, satisfaction, and contentment; and from this arises tolerance, compassion, understanding, and with some machines, even sympathy. If one is laid back enough, tolerance is a given. Compassion is recognising a situation for what it is so one can focus on the best possible resolution of difficulties so that the experience of what is, at the very least, most real, opens into experience; this does not necessarily imply any sympathy if it prolongs inconsonate, conditioned behaviour. Understanding requires some input, and there are certain situations where understanding simply cannot be assimilated so one must act in a more cursory fashion, and with probably less satisfactory results. There are many things I do not understand; the world is wide and vast beyond the grasp of the human intellect except in bits and pieces one at a time. If I have no heart, this is the way nature made my mind; you will need the tolerance to accept that for it is not in the power of a fictional entity to change the machine. People assume TM will change all these things, but in practice this does not seem to be the case most of the time, people remain more or less the same. Enlightenment is not about change. It is about what is always the same. Enlightenment does not change these things.Behaviour modification might, but this often does not come about by an act of will but by
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yes, Barry, there is no need to believe in God
What he seems in need of is someone to obsess on. Namely me. I wrote him off and deprived him of an audience when he feels like yelling at someone and telling them how low they are and how high he is. Rather than live with that, I guess what Xeno is saying is that Jim keeps writing posts about how much he hates Barry *anyway*. If that's your idea of what enlightenment is, I wish you luck with it. To me, it makes it sound as if Jim is just another version of Steve and Ann and Willytex. Ignore any of them, and they obsess on you *more*, not less. On 10/8/2014 8:35 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sorry dimwit. It is not because you ignore me (which you, unfortunately don't, you mention me all the time) but because your ideas and never-ending harping about the same things cries out to be addressed and corrected. It is because I disagree with you so much of the time and want to counterpoint your mistaken notions and conscious obsession with attributing false motives and characteristics to virtually everyone here - including the people you endorse. Face it bawee, people have a right to address your comments or you, for that matter, any time they bloody well please and it doesn't mean they'r obsessed with you or emotionally crushed because you ignore them. See, I had to correct you right now because, as usual, you're making up shit. /The question is, why does Barry feel the need to make stuff up? His writing as art should be able to speak for itself. Why would there be any need to post fantastic claims of super-normal powers and that his teacher could levitate? Barry seems to have a very big ego - in his own mind he is the most interesting guy on the planet. He simply cannot understand why a gal like you, that obviously has everything, would not be impressed with all his life accomplishments: spiritual teacher; author; science writer; talented artist; world traveler; old and wise and so experienced in life. How could a gal from Texas living in Canada know anything? Go figure. /
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's On Your Mind?
On 10/8/2014 9:29 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, as you commented about ebola, these outbreaks are likely to be politicized fairly quickly, which can hamper dealing with them as diseases. One article I read said that it likely will fade out as autumn progresses. Meanwhile, I hope you and Rita are taking a little colloidal silver every day. /Apparently the patient in Dallas has not received the same medications as the other two Americans ///with the Ebola /in the U.S. Go figure. /It's better to be accused of overreacting than to not take all the measures, he told reporters in Geneva. Virus Pioneer Says 'You Can't Overprotect' Against Ebola http://www.medindia.net/news/virus-pioneer-says-you-cant-overprotect-against-ebola-142228-1.htm On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 7:56 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: /So, the D-68 enterovirus is claiming lives around the country and some people are concerned, asking the important questions. Where did the virus originate and how did we get it? You'd think there would be information on about this on FFL, right? // // //Just One Minute: Didn’t we have an influx of central American children to the US this summer? Weren’t there concerns about diseases spreading in the holding camps? Weren’t the children dispersed all across this great nation? My initial guess was that since Texas was not showing up as one the early states with an outbreak, the disease was less likely to be associated with immigrants./ - Tom Maguire http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2014/10/moving-to-phase-ii-of-the-enterovirus-coverage.html The CDC has just one job! /You had one job! is the punchline on a popular Internet meme involving organizational screw-ups. Now critics are saying something similar about the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in response the agency's handling of the Ebola outbreak./ - Glenn Harlan Reynolds USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/10/05/ebola-cdc-jobs-tasks-multitasking-thomas-duncan-column/16766801/ /...there are a million people in isolation, in quarantine, because of Ebola, and ten thousand passengers leave West Africa every single day. It’s just a matter of time before this disease is carried to every corner of the world./ CBS Philly: http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/10/03/missouri-doctor-its-just-a-matter-of-time-before-ebola-is-carried-to-every-corner-of-the-world/ /Addressing the important issues:// // //According to Tom Frieden, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, we must be relentless in stopping the spread of ebola in West Africa. After all, after all is said and done here, that is the only way to truly and completely protect the health security of America -- and the world. By January there could be millions of people infected with the virus. // Asking the important questions: // //Who is going to spend the money to keep this epidemic contained so that it doesn't turn into a pandemic? How much would it cost to invent a vaccine? How will military units on the ground have the discipline, the will and the resources to mobilize tomorrow, build treatment centers really fast and deliver the care and medicine needed?// Taking action: // //The U.S. has boots are on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan and now 3,600 troops are being sent into Liberia to help manage the crises. How many boots on the ground and how much money will it take to defeat ISIS and the Ebola?/ 'Pentagon Sending 600 More Military Personnel to Fight Ebola in Africa' http://tinyurl.com/ppx4xhj 'Ebola virus: Pandemic should be treated 'the same way' as threat posed by nuclear weapons, security officials say' The Independent: http://tinyurl.com/poc6r9j 'Five blunders US made in treating country's first Ebola patient' The Telegraph: http://tinyurl.com/nhuek6c /For anyone paying attention, the long-brewing crisis hardly came out of nowhere./ 'We Screwed Up On Ebola, And Now The Crisis Is Getting Much Worse' https://finance.yahoo.com/news/screwed-ebola-response-result-cost-073019431.html
[FairfieldLife] Addressing The Important Issues
/Didn't we eradicate this disease years ago?/ ISLAMABAD, Pakistan --- As world health officials struggle to respond to the Ebola epidemic, Pakistan has passed a grim milestone in its efforts to combat another major global health crisis: the fight against polio... /'Polio becomes 'public health emergency' in Pakistan as number of cases soars'/ The Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/polio-becomes-public-health-emergency-in-pakistan-as-number-of-cases-soars/2014/10/07/9b6a065e-4e3e-11e4-8c24-487e92bc997b_story.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
On 10/8/2014 11:01 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Michael, I'd say that TM helped him in his work. But he needed specific help in his personal life. Obviously in that area of life, his damage was serious and needed expert attention. I'm mystified as to why he didn't seek that. Meanwhile, based on my own experience, I suggest: toss the bath water! Keep the baby... /Apparently Michael tends to believe in Absolutist terms (either l00% true or 100% false) and he cannot tolerate situations in which: // // // a. the truth is unknown// // b. the truth is midway between extremes// // c. simply unknowable// // d. variants such as true some of the time, but at other times not true, or true for some people but not others. // // //Go figure./
[FairfieldLife] Samadhi and Advaita
/The state of Samadhi is said to be a fourth kind of consciousness: beyond the states of waking, dreaming and dreamless sleep. Those who have experienced it report that it was like falling into a kind of trance-induction state. According to what I've read, Samadhi has two stages:/ * Samprajana samadhi - enstasis where there is still object-consciousness. * Nirvikalpasamadhi - where there is no longer any object-consciousness. The Purport: The purpose of yoga is to stabilize bodily functions and then transcend to total isolation of mental fluctuations, where the Self is not hidden by external conditions of the body or the mind (citta). The point to be noted about yoga is that its goal is the state where the Self remains solely in and as itself, without being hidden by external conditioning factors imposed by the mind (citta), according to Comans. In his sub-commentary on Vyasa's Vivarana on Yoga Sutras, Shankara states that ...the three means [of yoga] can by themselves remove the taints and bring about samadhi./ / The Comments:/ // //All the Indian Acharyas, except Charvaka, agree that the Ultimate Reality is transcendental to the relative world of maya - appearance. The Acharyas Shakya the Muni, Veda Vyasa, Badarayana, Patanjali, Shankara, Ramanuja, Madhva, Nimbarka, and Vallabhacharya all agree with this. According to Swami Bhaktivedanta Saraswati, there is a spiritual sky or field that is transcendental tothe mundane world of name and form. Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu also agrees with this. // // //Shankara advocated the three means of yoga: tapas, self-study, and action, in order to overcome Avidya, Ignorance. Tapas is the ability of the mind to remain in mental equipoise under stress. Self-study is meditation and reflecting and contemplating the truths of the Upanishads, namely the Mandukya Upanishad and Gaudapada's Karika thereon, and the four// //great dicta. Devotion to Ishvara is meditation on one's disksha-bija mantra, which alone will provide the occasion for Self reflection - unity consciousness.// Mediation simply provides the ideal opportunity for the transcending.// / Works Cited: 'The question of the importance of Samadhi in modern and classical Advaita Vedanta' by Michael Comans http://buddhism.lib.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/JR-PHIL/comans.htm Leggett, Trevor. _Sankara on the Yoga Sutras_ Vo. 2 Means. The Vivarana sub-commentary to Vyasa-bhasya on the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali: Sadhana-pada. London, 1983, Routledge Kegan Paul.
[FairfieldLife] Michael Jackson Trial, was Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
On 10/8/2014 11:18 AM, feste37 wrote: You are right, Share. I have never seen a claim that TM cures pedophilia or any other sexual disorder. It doesn't have any effect on those kinds of things. /Not sure why the prejudiced informant is still promoting this Collins story. It has already established that TM practice has no effect on personality. He is a case in point. He must think he's the only guy that watches TV or reads the newspapers. Go figure./ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Michael_Jackson ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Michael, I'd say that TM helped him in his work. But he needed specific help in his personal life. Obviously in that area of life, his damage was serious and needed expert attention. I'm mystified as to why he didn't seek that. Meanwhile, based on my own experience, I suggest: toss the bath water! Keep the baby...
[FairfieldLife] Michael Jackson Is Dead, was Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
On 10/8/2014 11:21 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I bow to the TM Free Facebook page's quip - it ways it better than I could have: National Co-director of TM's Committee for Stress-free Schools scrubbed off TM and David Lynch Foundation sites after revelations of child molestation. 30 years of TM for an Ideal Society! /Two years of crappy baked bread, cakes, cookies, and cup cakes:/ /MICHAEL JACKSON BANNED FROM MUM CAMPUS NEVER TO BAKE CUP CAKES FOR THE CULT LEADER EVER AGAIN!/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Definitely Not For Buck
Like. On 10/7/2014 11:05 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: More for Mac or Curtis or for those who enjoy photography, which is a kind of art. There are some good ones here, some mediocre but for a guy who simply dabbles and is self-taught and who uses non-professionals my husband has done some nice work. Dennis just photographs in a studio he built above the barn so his work is very home grown. While the horses munch hay below he is snapping away. It is his passion. Isn't it great to have a passion? http://dennisbater.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Celebrity!
On 10/8/2014 2:01 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Meanwhile, the regular TBs here have undoubtedly shifted into *their* normal mode, which is to try to shoot the messenger, focusing on trying to diss Michael or anyone else who brings up the latest in a long series of incidents that disprove the TMO's claims. You don't even have to read their posts to know this...it's just what they DO. Someone like Michael or myself brings up something that pushes their buttons and causes them cognitive dissonance, and their *first* reaction is *not* to deal with what's been brought up but to lash out at the person who brought it up. Sounds pretty childish to me, but YMMV. Jimbo probably thinks it's a sign of enlightenment to act that way. :-) /Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people./ - Eleanor Roosevelt
Re: [FairfieldLife] Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM
/This is a prejudiced and racist rant by a Jew-hater. O'Keefe denied that the September 11 attacks were committed by Osama bin Laden and the 19 hijackers. O'Keefe claimed it was an inside job and that the US government and intelligence agencies, including Mossad were responsible. Obviously Edg is a Jew-hater as well - posting shit like this while we are trying to make peace. Duveyoung is really fucked up in the head. That's what I think. Go figure./ On 10/8/2014 12:01 PM, Duveyoung wrote: If you don't agree with every single word of this guy's rant, YOU'RE FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM
On 10/8/2014 12:42 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Paranoia about banksters -- is sanity. Are you actually not seeing the true rulers of the world? /Use your head - if the Middle East was ruled by the Israelis there would be peace in the entire region. If Jews controlled the banks and the U.S. Government, we wouldn't have trillions of dollars in national debt.//Fuck you Jew-hating bastards a trillion times. Go figure./ /http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock// To diss this guy's possible psychological twist in his panties about Zionism while the War Mongers of the world have their way with the masses, is to serve them, their goals and their EVIL. I accuse you of being a supporter of evil. Fuck you for not being informed, and if informed, fuck you for mindfully being evil. The issue isn't this guy - - it's your turning of a blind eye towards the psychopaths.this foul dynamic is the cause of all the world's misery and YOU'RE JUST TRUCKING ALONG LIKE YOU AIN'T DOING SHIT. This is shit right here that you've done. You made the world a little shittier by pretending a guy is more important than MILLIONS WHO ARE ABOUT TO DIE. Fuck you time ten.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM
On 10/8/2014 1:18 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bankers make plenty of money in wartime - you better believe it! /Well, let's hope the U.S. banks are making money. // // //The whole idea is to use the ISIL as an excuse to send in more U.S. troops, through the backdoor, to actively do what we wanted to do more than ten years ago - to remove the dictators like Hussein and the Assad government and the Kings of Saudi - to stabilize the entire Middle East so we can get the oil and send it to Europe and the Ukraine. The U.S. is almost 100% energy independent. // // //Following your logic, you are supporting the terrorists in the Middle East every time you cash a paycheck at a bank, or start up your car in the morning - just like you support the drug cartels every time you light up a joint.Go figure./ You think arms deals, both those that are done by governments and those done in the shadows are carried out by guys in dark clothes carrying around suitcases full of money? The bankers are all too eager to shuttle money back and forth between all sorts of governments and clients - they make tons of dough in and from war. *From:* Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 1:42 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM Paranoia about banksters -- is sanity. Are you actually not seeing the true rulers of the world? To diss this guy's possible psychological twist in his panties about Zionism while the War Mongers of the world have their way with the masses, is to serve them, their goals and their EVIL. I accuse you of being a supporter of evil. Fuck you for not being informed, and if informed, fuck you for mindfully being evil. The issue isn't this guy - - it's your turning of a blind eye towards the psychopaths.this foul dynamic is the cause of all the world's misery and YOU'RE JUST TRUCKING ALONG LIKE YOU AIN'T DOING SHIT. This is shit right here that you've done. You made the world a little shittier by pretending a guy is more important than MILLIONS WHO ARE ABOUT TO DIE. Fuck you time ten.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
On 10/8/2014 1:15 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Of course TM doesn't handle these issues, but Marshy and the Movement claim they do, and when you add in the ridiculous adjunct programs like yagya and all the Indian nostrums /Prejudice: a preconceived judgment toward a group of people or a person because of religion, gender, political opinion, social class, age, disability, sexuality, race/ethnicity, language, nationality or other personal characteristics./ the TMO sells, they claim they got a lock on perfect everything for the individual and society. That is one of the reasons they are so despicable, they prey on people's weaknesses and their hope for a better life. *From:* lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 1:16 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Perhaps TM and TMSP DID help him, but TM is an anti-stress practice. There's no reason (other than Maharishi's most extreme rhetoric) to assume that, in any finite amount of time (at least), it will affect non-stress-related behavioral and health-related issues. Now, you can make the case that virtually every dysfunctional behavior is stress-related to a certain extent, but obviously in Collin's case, TM and TMSP weren't sufficient to change his behavior. After 40 years of TM and 30 years of TMSP, I've found that some of my issues havent' been handled adequately either. OTOH, I've tried western-style therapy and medication for 20 years also, and still have problems. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : The thing is, both Collins and the TMO have hyped his practice of TM and TMSP as that which keeps him on a even keel in the entertainment world - they make big claims for his practice doing all kinds of stuff for him. *From:* Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:01 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Michael, certainly I have been exposed to the TMO more than most people. I've been in FF for 26 years and lived on campus for the first 14 of those years. I earned both an MA in SCI and an MS in psychology from MUM. During that time I took relationship workshops because I realized that I needed specific knowledge about successfully navigating that often complicated area of life. In large part I left campus 12 years ago because I realized that I had issues and that I needed to deal with them with expert help. Maybe I'm just more practical than Stephen Collins! But in almost 40 years, I have only missed between 5 and 10 meditations. And that was due to illness or traveling. And includes the 7 years when I did not have contact with MUM or the TMO. I did my TMSP at home. We don't really know any details about Stephen's TMSP practice. Thus to draw conclusions is not really useful. I see the TMO as part of a world that is constantly evolving. And recently, I see the TMO itself evolving. Take the best and leave the rest! On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:45 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. I agree that may be true for some, the problem is that the Old Fraud and his organization, the Movement have always make outrageous unsupportable claims for the efficacy and benefits of of TM for EVERYONE. This gives people who know nothing about TM unreasonable expectations and sets them up for disappointment on many levels. If one reads and listens to the hype about TM and TMSP the existence of a mental/emotional state that would lead one to be a child molester should not be possible in someone who has done TMSP for decades. Yet it happens. If the TMO billed TM for what it actually is, instead of what they claim for it, I would never say a word. It is the fraud, the lies and the misuse of people that makes the TMO a fundamentally corrupt and disgusting organization. And the meditation itself is mediocre - it is not the superlative better than any other technique, superior to all others the Movement does and Marshy did claim that it is. *From:* Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:18 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Good day lurking
