Re: magnifying tool
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-02-02 at 1324.11 -0500): How do I get back to the regular size after using the magnifier on an image? That is to say, what is the gimp equivalent of double clicking on the hand in PhotoShop? No idea of PS method, but in Gimp you can press Ctrl while using the Mag tool to zoom out, or change zoom via menus or keycombos (Image / View / Zoom In | Zoom Out | Zoom / ). I personally use for Zoom In, Ctrl + for Zoom Out, 1 for Zoom / 1:1, 2 .. 5 for Zoom / 2:1 .. 16:1, and Ctrl + 2 .. 5 for Zoom / 1:2 .. 1:16. My keyboard has near the 1, the = does not work (it is Shift + 0, as in most European kbd I believe) and - is far, so using the first six keys of that row alone or with Ctrl is the best for me and easy to remember (keys alone mean bigger, keys with Ctrl mean smaller size on screen). GSR
Re: Got a working Gimp 1.2-Thanks Q
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-14 at 1945.45 +0100): The Xemian gimp 1.2 seems to have done the trick. It does go in as ~/.gimp-1.2. Is this particular to the new gimp or this build? Any way to get an old generic .gimp (I moved my earlier one so as to avoid just this). Gimp uses dirs with version so you can mix installs or it does not crash after a big update (some config items are not compatible). After getting "nice" cores with other apps, I think Gimp way is good, you can always move one item at a time, or edit by hand to match your old config (I did). GSR
Re: session managment?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-13 at 1956.08 +0100): I am pretty sure that the window manager can override the gimps windows. When my gimp window problems irritate me enough, that's where I am going to start, with the window manager. No, I think not. Gimp should be able to place the windows itself. That just some kind of geometry setting, isn't it? IIRC window manager can force anything into apps, and X into window manager. So decission chain from who has more power to less is X - wm - app. If you save position with window manager, then app will be unable to put window where it wants (and similar for size, colors and other things). GSR
Re: Repost: messed up screenshots
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-10 at 1859.01 -0500): The fact remains, though. Switching color depth solved my problem. I'm running 16-bit as well with no problems with screen captures. How much memory does your video card have? What are you running your desktop at? Might you be running out of video memory? 4Mb, with 1024x768. But one would expect that even more memory would be needed for 32-bit mode, since twice as much space is required for each bit. You can also try 24 bit. And with 4 MB you can run 1024 @ 32 bpp, even 1152 @ 32 bpp. I ran my old ATI at 1152 * 864 and it had 4 MB too (I can not remember if I used 24 or 32, but doing the maths 4 MB are enough in both cases, the difference is in free space for pixmap cache and other tasks). The video card is Diamond Viper 330 (NVidia-128 chip), with SVGA X-server, X11 3.3.6. Old chip and nVidia. :[ GSR
Re: Gimp in a different language?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-04 at 1949.23 +0100): Is it possible to have Gimp in a different language? Yes. I didn't find anything about that! Did I oversee something? Before launching Gimp set the LC_* LANG enviro vars. Lot of apps (under Unix systems, at least) use this method. Read the setlocale man page. GSR
Re: gimp fonts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-04 at 2122.33 +0200): How to change the fonts of the gimp menus? Via .gtkrc or .gtkrc.mine or one of the multiple tools that allow you to change GTK+ config, like the GNOME Control Center. Also some themes change the default font. You should visit http://www.gtk.org/ and http://gtk.themes.org/ for more info. GSR
Re: collage of pictures
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-12-26 at 2229.53 -0500): I am wanting to create a collage of pictures for a website. But I want the transitions between the pictures to be smooth and not merely one image overlaping another. Does anyone have sugguestions? The book Grokking the Gimp (or the on line version located at http://gimp-savvy.com/) has exercices about that. Try it. GSR
Re: Clean Filter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-12-21 at 1449.47 +0100): I would like to know if it exists a filter or any other way to remove pen traces from my pictures...I have a picture that was signatured and I want to remove automagically this signature... Resythesize maybe. Other options are to do it by hand with some tools, like airbrush or pen, but specialy clone. GSR
Re: Alignment of objects?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-11-23 at 1432.35 +0100): BTW, with your method I can get to circles who start at the same spot, but I like to have two circles, that have theire center exactly at the same spot, where the center of my whole image is, any idea? Aah, concentric circles! Put the two gides so they cross where you want the center. Put mouse pointer near and drag, then hit ctrl + shift and you get perfect circles centered where you started dragging (ctrl is for center, shift for perfect circles). The order is really important: keep down mouse button, press and hold keys, move until desired size, release mouse then keys. GSR
Re: GIMP in the prompt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-11-23 at 1824.19 -0200): Hi, I'm a linux user and I'm starting to use GIMP. I want to know if I can use GIMP to convert jpeg images to 16 colors gif format, from the prompt, using something like : gimp -colors 16 image.jpg image.gif Use ImageMagick better. GSR
Re: Auto Image resizing on webserver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-11-23 at 1145.45 +0530): I am working on a web project where the users will be uploading GIF,JPG like images. The problem is that all such uploads will have to be resized on the server. The server is Win2000/ASP+PERL. I have heard gimp No comments. capable of batch processing or similar tasks. So how can I use gimp to do such automatic taks at the server (if it is possible). Use ImageMagick better. GSR
Re: Alignment of objects?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-11-22 at 1321.28 +0100): Please give my some hints, or URL's The tool you need is Image / Layers / Align visible layers. GSR
Re: Newbie question: Transparent gradient
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-11-13 at 1629.40 -0700): I have a small layer sitting on top of the stack. I would like to "fade" the image contained in that layer, left to right, so that one side (the right side) is completely opaque and the other side (the, er, left side, I guess) is completely transparent. I think what you need is a layer mask. It the appears as another thumbnail near the layer it is attached too. It works as a gray image, deciding what is trasparent and what not. Search the docs about how to use layer masks, or Grokking the Gimp site, it is a tech used a lot for logos and compositions. GSR
Re: Art pads
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-13 at 1338.15 +0200):
I just wish I could afford one right now. 8-{
Are they any good? I mean, woudln't it any time be better
to just draw on paper and scan it?
Do you have an airbrush (the real ones, with compressor, needle,
paint, etc)? Can you smear an ink drawing? Clone parts of an image in
paper? Erase thounsand of times without damaging the paper? That are
some reasons to use a tablet.
Scanners and tablets are compatible, complementary. Some things can
not be done with the other. And using a drawing / photo retouching
program with a pen instead of a "brick" is quite comfortable. They are
more expensive than a mouse, but they also help more.
As far as I know, gimp doesn't do free-hand vector-drawings?
Nope, only bitmap operations.
GSR
Re: Simple Text with shadow as transparent gif impossible?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-11 at 0915.09 -0400): What did I wrong? How can I create a showed text stored in a tranparent gif where only the Text and the shadow should be visisble. gif only supports one bit alpha, as you figured out. If you want a picture with 256 bit alpha, use png. Note that support for this on web browsers is not very good (IE and mozilla support it fine), but it is the only way that IIRC current implementations did not support full alpha PNG. Maybe they have changed lately. I know they can view simple PNGs, but I can not talk about "exotic" PNGs (I still smile when I remember an app I had that loaded RGBA PNGs as CMYK). I know of to do it. Conversly, you could flatten the image and delete just the background (leaving a light hue around the text), but then why even use a transparent gif? There are some tools to add some "border" to the text, so you still get transparency and the page background is visible, but the text borders are smooth and you can have shadows. Look for Perl based Prepare for gif (prep4gif) under Filters Web, and for binary Semiflatten under Filter Colors. They do the work for you pretty fine and you get a nice 50% / 50% solution. GSR
Re: stamp text
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-09 at 1147.41 +0200):
Is there a script/plugin to make "stamps" ("eroded" text in circle, like a
stamp)
Do you mean text along a circle? Xtns Script-fu Logos Text
circle.
If you mean rough shapes, try applying a spread and some blurs to the
text, and a displace with solid noise as map info, so you get a
deformed aproximation of the original text (the displace gives a "not
flat paper" look). You may need to play with levels to get the final
result.
GSR
Gimp Perl docs
Hi: Can anybody recommend me interesting docs about Gimp - Perl? Other than the distributed example, and tutorials if possible. I have found some but they seem to be old, and I would like to know which ones people find more useful than the rest. Thanks in advance. GSR
Re: .gimprc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-03 at 1034.21 -0400): Ok, quick question: Why didn't a .gimprc file get created? Should I just make a blank one for it to use, or do I need to D/L an actual file somewhere? Everything seems to work well, except the daily tip never fails to pop up on boot no matter if I click the "don't show this next time" checkbox. Maybe "~/.gimp-1.1/gimprc"? You should have your config there, at least under a Unix where Gimp installed the user settings right. GSR
Re: Suggestion to toolbar buttons placement
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-03 at 1633.44 -0500): On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Tobias [iso-8859-1] Gärder wrote: what I'D want is gimp to show the selection-size all the time and not just while selecting something, i hate to reselect everything to see how big something is (there might be a solution for this, please help me! =) Tobias has a good point. One of the features I sorely miss from photoshop was the "Info" window. In addition to showing the sizes of selections Have you ever tried hitting Ctrl+Shift+i? Maybe that is what you want (1.1.26 at least). Well, that plus extra functions (selection size). GSR
Re: Fog?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-02 at 2008.17 +0200): What's the best method to add a fog-like effect? One idea that comes to mind would be to add a layer and then fill it with plasma, desaturate, and then adjust the transparency to a fog-like effect. i tried this, but: what is plasma? in generell, how do i do "special" colors like "transparent", "opaque" or whatever. only thing i can handle up to now is select and make a layer, but i have no intuitive feeling as to how they are operated. could someone please bring us intuition? IIRC Tigert (http://tigert.gimp.org/) had a tutorial where he created clouds, fog or something like that. I think it was a tutorial for a meeting, expo or whatever the name. I remember it had mountains and stars, too. GSR
Re: Looking for true type fonts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-09-29 at 2056.15 -0700): [...] common is that they have them all listed *individually*, and not one of them (that I have found so far) have all fonts in one big file that I can just download and extract. Plus, most of the ones Use wget, for example: wget -r -l1 -A zip http://site/dir/page-with-zip-links I have found are *.zip files, and the unzip command doesn't seem [...] to unzip multiple files at once? (I have read the man page, but to no avail). Use a bash shell loop, for example: for i in `ls *zip`; do unzip $i; done And also try places with fonts in one single archive. ;] But I can remember none, sorry. GSR
Speaking about fonts
Does anybody know how to uncompress the MS Win32 self extratcing archives? It seems that they are becoming a new trend latelly (instead of zip and a good system to install fonts, they use self installers and waste KB like mad). GSR
Re: Speaking about fonts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-01 at 0136.26 +0300): Try "unzip", mostly they're .zip SFX, but for other you should use wine or search for a friend with Win32 installed... They are not zip SFX, they are Win32 code. I had the bad habbot of using "file" command with everything. I guess I will have to install Wine, and hope installing "apps" works. What do not stop you, makes you wiser. :] GSR
Re: SPAM :-(
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-09-27 at 2214.14 +0530): What advantages does hosting this list at the present site have vis. a vis. hosting this mailing list at egroups.com? egroups.com offers all such facilities, plus all mails remain archived. Advertisment? If we are gonna change to another place, I would ask help to GNU or SourceForge, they give lists to open source projects without ads. But I guess that the only thing needed is to change a setting in the current list config. And as with the website, the problem is to find the person that can do it. GSR
Re: Does this filter exist?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-09-21 at 2206.16 +0200): Use the scale tool or "Image-Scale Image". The answer is so obvious that I still don't think this is what you wanted to know? And that won't stretch it like any ordinary (paint brush) graphics tool would? Yes, it would distort it. I mean an "intelligent" stretch tool. Like you said, not just repeat the same pixels. A basic rule of computing: computers are stupid. BTW, it will not repeat the pixels, but compute new values to give you a smooth transition. GSR
Re: Does this filter exist?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-09-21 at 2210.43 +0200): I should also mention that I would scale things up only as a last resort. If possible re photograph or re scan at a higher resolution. Say I have a 640x480 JPG I use for desktop background. I'd like that to be 1152x864. I can't simply rephotograph or rescan it. Then you are out of luck. Gargage in, garbage out. Pixels can not be created from the void, only calculated based in the original ones (calculated, not copied). If you want extra quality, I would select Cubic in the Scaling entry of the Environment category of Preferences window, it is slower, but better. GSR
Re: Does this filter exist?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-09-14 at 2012.44 +0200): Is there a filter to blow an image up in double size and calculate the extra pixels, instead of simply stretching them, as it is done usually. Two tricks: - perfect one but limited: zoom image to 200% and screenshot. Problem is when ou image goes out of screen. - imperfect but always works: scale the image by 2, then apply a Pixelize with size 2. Is that what you want? If not, please define better. GSR
Re: GDynText
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-30 at 0817.02 -0500): How do you place text generated by GDynText anywhere other than the top left corner? Move the layer: key M or the four arrow cross, then hold Shift and click MB1 (the key is to avoid selecting layers below if you hit a transparent area). GSR
Re: what digital camera?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-30 at 0946.59 -0600): Any suggestions out there for a moderately priced digital camera that is linux friendly? I'm using SuSE 6.2 I would get the list of supported ones by gphoto http://www.gphoto.org/. The README and FAQ of the distro seem to the list of cameras. Does it matter? I've never used one before, nor seen one used. Well, yes if you want to use your images in Linux without rebooting. The gphoto docs also have some advices about quality and related details. GSR
Re: what digital camera?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-30 at 1158.04 -0700): Without rebooting? Why would you ever have to reboot? You can mount a drive without rebooting -- especially when that's a pcmcia card drive. One of the beauties of Linux is never rebooting. FYI, I haven't rebooted my laptop in 2 weeks and the last time I rebooted was because I forgot to put it to sleep so the battery ran out. Oooh, when I mean reboot I mean "reboot to Windows, get the images, reboot to Linux, use them". Like with WinModems and Internet (lucky me, all my hardware work with Linux). My Univ server rebooted after a nice over 115 day uptime due a serious power outage that used all the UPS (I can not exactly determine, cos I do not have an uptime daemon, and I do not check uptime everyday, so is just "IIRC around 6 days it was 111, so it must be something more than 115"). And I turn off my home computer cos the fans and the SCSI disks are too noisy to sleep when less than 2 m away. So I know you do not have to reboot a Unix (not only Linux) for most of things (hardware faliure, kernel upgrade, hardware upgrade, power loss, OS change are good reasons to... at least until PCs can hot swap all parts, not just PCMCIA or similar). Thanks for reminding me that. I believed I had to reboot every 2 hours or each program install (whichever occurs first). ;] GSR
Re: Saving as EPS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-22 at 1118.24 +0530): The image saved is of 18 MB ? the same if I save it as gif it comes to about 8 Kb GIF compresses, but I dunno about EPS, I think not, or not as good as other formats. I have not worked with eps formats but I am sure 18 MB is not normal even for eps It is. You are moving a raster format to a vector format. The result is one of the least efficient you will see in life. Maybe is something about the DPI. What DPI are you using? My second problem is in color seperation all the other colors get seperated in to their respective cmyk format except for black which shows in all the four modes as otherwise it should only appear in the K(cmyK) mode IIRC there is no gray reduction or whatever the name in English. The right should be to pass all black to K channel or ask about how much, but there is not. Supposing EPS filter saves to CMYK, a thing I dunno. I used Perl for scripting and gimp 1.1.4 Old Gimp, 1.1.25 is the latest. GSR
Re: Correction
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-18 at 1227.23 -0500): Oops--noticed I did not include the URL of the xcf: it's http://www.bsmanagement.com/llywelyn/images/cyrus/cyrus.xcf Thanks! Jim Clark Two things, the first link was wrong, I got something with cyrus.jpg but not with your link. And the second is that never ever use xcf! You should use xcf.bz2 or xcf.gz, at least for web. And for HD too, IMO, cos saves space and only adds a bit (maybe too much for some people?) to load / save times. As the compression is loseless and cmd line reversible, I do not see other problem to avoid it. Could you repost both links after testing? BTW, using JPG as intermediate format is bad. If you are scanning at home, use another format, if scanning in a bureau, ask for another format. IMO PNG is OK for all these jobs. GSR
Re: Scanner suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-16 at 0903.19 -0400): (Please don't tell me to upgrade - I'm not confident enough yet to install a new version, and except for some script-fu bugs, it's working pretty well.) Upgrade! ;] You can, with the Helix RPMs. Anyhow, any suggestions out there for a scanner? There are several listed in the book, but I thought I'd see what suggestions might come my way, as it's a bit outdated. Visit the SANE and related pages, they have the list of supported scanners. I would also check for pages about calibration, so you do no buy one when a same price better one exists. HP looked fine last time I checked, 6xxx IIRC. For example http://www.mostang.com/sane/ and http://www.scarse.org/. The best, IMO, SCSI, less problems in general. For them you will need "count up to 16" (SCSI ID) and "begin, middle, end" (terminator) Sesame Street episodes. They must be really rare episodes, cos nobody seem to understand SCSI. ;P Other option is USB, but you will have to fight kernel, possibly. The worst idea is parallel, too slow, too many problems. GSR
Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues.....
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-13 at 1126.34 +0200): It is interesting that most of mailinglist traffic in the recent weeks is caused by the (perfectly working ;) rpm system :) Perfectly working system or great package creators? :] I vote for the second, cos I have seen too many RPMs badly done (missing things, garbage left after uninstall, installs partially done, wrong owner / permissions...). I wonder if people tests things (a friend as guinea pig is great for this ;] ). GSR
Re: some questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-03 at 1718.00 +0200): Hi all, I don't speak very good english so, I'll try to write the less as possible ;-) It seems you also have problems with product names. ;] I've got some questions about gimp. *) How keep the toolbar on the top of the desktop (with Ph0t0sh0p I always have it on the top) I suppose you mean the window with the buttons and the color selector. That is a window manager task (supposing you use a X version), check your wm documentation for always on top settings. *) How to do a bitmap trame (like http://axel584.free.fr/index6.shtml) (with Ph0t0sh0p it in the image/mode menu) If you mean the printer effect, MB3 - Filters - Distorts - Newsprint. I think I saw a tutorial about what parameters to get that effect, but can not remember where. *) Where can I found script/plug-in like eye candy (but free and under gimp of course ;-) ...) (Eye-candy make 3D effects on the selection shape) Under script-fu menu maybe. Or if not, code your own scripts. All those 3D effects are just combinations of bump map, displaces and similar things. Gimp is a Do It Yourself tool (plugin, script or hand made) while PS is more "pay me for a script" oriented. Can you put a webpage with the one small image of each effect? *) Can we use a vector editor with gimp ? (like illustrat0r and Ph0t0sh0p who work together...) If you can save as image (pixels) and trace shapes with the vector one, of course. Gimp can also read some vector formats, like PS / EPS (it renders to pixels to import). *) Do exist a soft/plug-in to help the creation of the script ? (like in Ph0t0sh0p where we can record some actions and play them again) Nope yet. Or maybe, it is called text editor with help for the languaje you choose (scheme, perl or python). ;] GSR
Re: Welcome to CubicDesign.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-02 at 1311.13 -0400): Ick, Helvetica? [isn't that a microsoft font?] No, it is the original Adobe name, IIRC. Arial is the MS name for sans font. Why not use a serif font? Just plain Times New Roman would work, or better yet don't specify a IMHO Times New Roman, a MS font, sucks so much that I started to hate serif fonts. On the other hand, I discovered TeX Computer Modern font family, and find that my problem was not with serif fonts but with MS one. TeX roman font has something different that showed me that (I like it). font at all and count on the user's taste for a default font. I often exit a site without even reading anything if the font is too small. (for instance, I don't shop at CDW at all). We all should mail the webmaster of such sites that we would like to read but can not, maybe that way they will pay attention to visitors content and not only coolness. GSR
DPIs (Re: Welcome to CubicDesign.com)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-02 at 2120.02 +0200): http://www.cubicdesign.com/gimp/ to demostrate how it looks (NS 4.73 Linux, X with swapped 100dpi - 75dpi paths for bigger fonts). Relative An easier and more consistent way would be to set the dpi of your screen to a very high value (120+). Netscape scales accordingly. Hehe, look at the font used for the menus, and think about how will them look using 120 DPI (1.2 times bigger, no?). http://acd.asoc.euitt.upm.es/~gsromero/gimp/gautam-web.png http://acd.asoc.euitt.upm.es/~gsromero/gimp/gautam-gimp.png Based in the monitor size (17 aka 16 viewable, so 12.5 wide viewable) and the resolution I use (1152 * 864) the DPI is 1152 / 12.5 = 92.16. GTK with a font of 12 pixels looks perfect, thanks. GSR
Re: Script-fu crashes - with ICQ
Does somebody know about a possibility to separate these two things, without uninstalling ICQ? Change the extension association, whatever the way that is done now (my last Windows is NT with plain Explorer). I suppose (but I dunno) that Gimp will be able to live with that. I would ask the Win32 developers for help, so maybe they can do something (like using another extension via mv in the makefile... well, MS C project config files and ren). GSR
Re: Script-fu crashes
it via /proc, so check you have compiled and enabled). FreeBSD, if not does something like that, should too (in the same way that Linux and FreeBSD share the idea of virtual consoles, which is great). FreeBSD doesn't need that, as it doesn't crash nearly as often as linux ;- I never have used it for for freezes (yet). Always as fast reboot or experiment (like today playing with RAID... hot reconstruction, cool). running away... Why? GSR
Re: gimp - photoshop
Can I export to photoshop my gimp 1.1 file? Yes, there are plugins to read and save PSD. Maybe not work 100%, but you can try. GSR
Re: Newbie Developer's Question
I use the console to see what the command does to the image/layer...if it works, I then cut-n-paste into emacs. if not, then i just do an undo :-) Thanks, I will give it a try. :] GSR
Re: Script-fu crashes
Some details to add to what Marc said: I've had 3 random freezes of the keyboard upon startx, with the monitor going black and the only way out a hard reboot. I've fiddled about with fsck (and been yelled at by German geeks for doing that) but something seems to always work to get it back. Not the same thing every time, tho. Did you tried the SUBmarine tactic? Alt+SysReq+S (sync disks), wait until LED and sound stop, Alt+SysReq+U (umount disks, remount read only), wait until LED and sound stop, Alt+SysReq+B (reboot). The machine goes down quite fast, and a lot safer than drilling holes in the ships hull (aka hit the reset button), cos it can come up perfectly. Of course, all this works only if the kernel is still alive. GSR
Re: photo retouch
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Haven/5179/ is this just happening to me? when i try to get this page with netscape i get redirected (after a 404) to some insane 'net-game. happens even when shortening the url back to ...cities.com/ i know i could get into Silicon- Valley... I use netscape also and have no problems viewing the page. Maybe you made a typo or cut'n pasted to much or to little? I got a similar problem in another page. GeoCities seems to have problems today. GSR
RE: Fonts in Script-FU Dialogs
Thanks for your lead. I have located a Helix RPM of Gimp-1-1-24 and successfully installed it. Do you happen to know if I also need to install (whether by RPM or make) the associated gimp-data file, or is it already a part of Gimp-1-1-24 ? I have been a bit offline latelly (exams and work), so me last Helix has 1.1.22, and I used it too few. IIRC they do not provide too many things, so you could give a try to that file. Install under /usr/local/ so you do not kill anyhting based in RPM, and use the Preferences dialog to point Gimp to the correct data dirs. GSR
RE: Fonts in Script-FU Dialogs
[...] Firstly, am I going down the right track by looking here ? Yes, if you know how to compile after getting the files. Secondly, what do I do with these files once I download them -- some of these files are large, so I am not going to download them yet until I know for sure these are what I want. Get the bz2 better (smaller, but same contents), the basic is 1.1.24. If you have 1.1.23, you can get the patch file instead. If you do not have lots of brushes, textures and similar things, get the extra too. Thirdly, as I am a newbie, could I ask for a bit of hand-holding as to what I do once I have downloaded them ? I know that I need to gunzip and tar -xvf these files, but once I have done this, I am getting into unfamiliar territory when it comes to compiling them. I've already tried to compile some downloaded GIMP plug-ins, and fell flat on my face. Oh oh. For the bz2 you have to use bunzip2, then tar (or single command tar with special params, read the man page... btw it also works with gz, add -z). The process is explained in a file that comes, readme or install, I can not remember exactly. Normally ./configure --things-I-want, make, make install. You can give it a try, but as I newbie I dunno if you will like it. or is it possible to get a pre-compiled package for the developers' edition of GIMP (e.g. RPMs...) ?? Of course, Helix GNOME provides RPM of it, even 1.1.24 as some pointed out. GSR
Re: Layer to selection
How do I convert a floating selection to a normal selection? Click the new layer icon in the Layer, Channels Paths window, so you get a layer, then select an area in that layer, for example with "Alpha to selection". GSR
Re: CMYK support
Is there any patch available for gimp 1.1.1 for CMYK support in TIFFs? 1.1.1 is pretty old. Current is 24, even Helix GNOME ships 22. About CMYK, I suppose it must be first supported in the libtiff code, a thing I do not know. And second, Gimp does not support CMYK yet, so the best you will get will be a CMYK - RGB conversion, never native CMYK (until is is added, of course, maybe in 2.0). GSR
Re: The Bucket Fill Tool in GIMP for Windows
I am a Windows user, and have been using the Windows version of the GIMP quite extensively. I have noticed that the Tool Options menu for the Bucket Fill tool does not have an Opacity slider or a Mode selector (these are available in the Linux version). Could anyone suggest a workaround for this ? For example, if I wished to bucket fill a selection using Multiply mode (say), how could I do it ? IIRC you have two options: - turn off the global settings (or whatever the name) for tools in the preferences. - use the widgets of the brush toolbox. At least that seems to be the case under Unix Gimp. GSR
RE: The Bucket Fill Tool in GIMP for Windows
Hi Andrew, Can you not use layers Maybe cos if you know wht you want, the other way is faster. And if you do not, you do not waste undo steps (do, "uuummm I do not like it", undo, do: only one slot wasted). Maybe if the undo stack thing is cleared in next versions it would be the same in undo steps. GSR
Re: keep layers ??
i there a way to keep the layer structure in a gimp file ??? i like to save a file with several layers and get a layers when i load the file in gimp again. save as xcf, the gimps native format. theres also a psd (photoshop) writing plug in at the registry. gimp already comes with the filter for reading photoshop. XCF saves more things... or at least you know that it rarelly will leave out data, do not use PSD for dailly work. Just a suggestion to avoid problems. For better space management, use bzip2 or gzip after it. When saving, choose "by extension" and write "filename.xcf.bz2" (or "gz") in the box. You keep all the data, and is saved in compressed way (loseless, of course). Gimp creates the xcf and then calls the compressor, quite easy. And you can extract the xcf file by hand (usefull when sending to a guy that does not have bzip2... rare but there are some still), or leave the work to Gimp. GSR
RE: is there a way to run GIMP in 800/600 mode without using the numeric keypad?
It's sort of a GIMP question when you understand that the only reason I have Linux on my laptop, is to use GIMP. I've already looked through LAME and another Administator's guide and the Mandrake help files with no luck, but I don't want to Administrate Linux, I just want to run GIMP in 800/600 mode. Setting the drivers is administration, in any OS. You can name it as you want, configuration or whatever. Can anyone help? There is a Linux site with lot of laptops links... http://www.linuxberg.com/ and then click on docs link and browse a bit to find the Linux and Laptops area (IIRC, maybe it was not there... use a search engine if fails). I know there is a site with lots of link about laptops, including config examples to solve problems like yours, sorry but I can not remember the exact link. On a side note, I'm intrigued by your comment about laptop colors. In other image editing programs I would change the color to say, red, with the big psychdelic color selection palette thing, yet it would show up as grey when I painted. Is this what U mean when U allude to color problems using a laptop? No, TFT screens are poor for photoworks. Computer vendor can say whatever they want, but CRTs are still the king. Because, when I take a picture, it looks right on the laptop... the trees are green and my butt is white. So I would imgaine that the laptop will be fine for my low tech needs, i.e. the web. Could you elaborate? Does it have something to do with 16 bit color vs. 15 bit color? You should run in 24 bits for a full range (at least better than 15/16). And TFT color reproduction is no the same than CRTs. And both are different than printers or scanners. Welcome to the mad world of color calibration. ;] GSR
Re: blur similar to layer mask
is there a possibility to influence a filter (e.g. blur) with a black and white gradient similar to the layer mask? i would like to blur an image so that the border gets unsharp but the center doesn't change. Playing with selections. If you have 1.1.x you can use the QuickMask thing. That way you paint in the QMask with the gradient tool (or airbrush or whatever) and then it works as selection with levels. If you have 1.0.4 you will have to do it with channels (after all, IIRC, QMask is a hack on top of channels). GSR
Re: no X thankyou!!
so, how do i override this?? right now I'm having to xhost (servername) and keep X running...i want to get this all running from console..i see no reason for X to be needed... any helpers out there? IIRC there is a X server that fakes that. It works as normal X, but never shows anything anywhere. Xvfb maybe? And of course, VNC. GSR
Refresh database (Re: Picture/screen size)
XF ver. 4. I am not uite satisfied with it now, because my combination of Matrox G400/16 MB and ViewSonic 17" only gives me 75 Hz refresh (the M$ gives 87 Hz) so I hope the ver. 4 will help a little. Do not ask me why, but XFree is always very conservative with the refresh rates. Another example is the chipset clock, it also gives less than the maximum. In the end, your machine works below the limit but I doubt any damage is avoided. An example of this is that XFree gives worse results than in other OSs, but with tools like the one for G400 you get the same (and no overclocking, just normal clocking). Does anybody know how to move the refresh data from Windows to XFree? Is there any kind of formula (simple, if possible)? A full database of scan lines? Does XFree 4 come with exact settings or still under powered? I am a bit feed up with this, specially cos all people complain that "in Windows I get X but in Linux I get less" when the problem is not about forcing but setting the right numbers. GSR
Re: Performance of Gimp vs. photoshop for large images
thats odd. that size should be fine. i work in film res all the time (4kx3k) at 32bpp (yes, i know film should be done at 48 or 64 bpp to prevent banding, i only work this res for testing) can I see some references for these values? Seems that number is just climbing all the time. can the human eye distinguish more than 26-bit? Even at 4kx3k, you've only got 12million pixels that can be of different colours. It is for retouching purpouses. When you operate with computers, you have quantization problems, if you use 8 bit per channel, in a few steps you will discover that color that were different now are the same, or that due rounding you get the wrong colors. (How do you see a 64bit picture on the monitor? ;-) ) You do not. It is just for internal ops. GSR
Re: Performance of Gimp vs. photoshop for large images
It's set to either 15 megs or 10 megs. However the disc is not being Too low, enough to edit a logo, but not for big images. 3500 * 2800 * 3 bytes = 29.4E6 bytes, as you see it is a lot more than 15MB (near two times), so Gimp moves data to disk as soon as you load the image. I have used Gimp with images as big as yours, multiple layers and it was fast, reason? I set the cache size to 128MB or more (the machine had 256), and I hope to fine tune it as soon as I have time to test it more (but I guess that 128 - 192 will be good, after all, my old machines had 64MB in the best case, and I had done medium works with them). thrashed, throughout the redraw all the CPU time is being eaten by gimp, i.e. it's processor-bound, not I/O bound, if it was a cache issue then I'd expect large amounts of disc I/O but I'm not seeing that. How did you meassure the CPU and IO loads? I think your meassurements are not correct. Unix system internals are really strange, I always remember the famous discussion in GNOME list about Shared memory, Resident, etc. It seems most people meassure wrong. BTW, Unix "trashing" is rare to find, or at least to heard. When it moves data to disk it does not sound like Windows Machine Gun Swap Routine (TM), just clickclick. Watch the LED, it should be always ON (or look like it is ON, you know that eyes are not perfect), but the disk may not make loud or rare sounds. At least under normal conditions (a 1GB DB in a 64MB computer is not normal). ;] Conclusion: raise the limit and complain again if Gimp is not fast. GSR
RE: How to change text
That may sounds strange, but why couldn't we add semantic specs in xcf files for instance ? A new standard ? That could be stated over some structured log ; transient as layering... Gimp 1.1.x and GDynText provide that. But plain 1.0.4 does not. That is the reason he got that "no" answer. XCF does a lot of things, Gimp too, the problem is that if you want latest things, you have to run bleeding edge versions... with Helix GNOME that is not a problem, Helix Code compiles latest Gimp periodically. Maybe you could give a try (if it burns your computer, no complains accepted, only bug report and fixes ;] ). GSR
Re: US Government, ImageLinks and Florida Tech developing Open Source Software for Remote Sensing and Mapping
See attached press release... And? :-/ First: big attachments to mailing list is not a good way to behave, specially if big (most patches I see here are smaller, if even posted). Second: .doc is not a format to prevoide info to everyone (expecially to users that can be running other software instead of MS'). Third: crossposting is not nice either. Next time post a link to a standard format file will be enough (or one that you know that the recipents will be able to download and view... .xcf to Gimp user is right). Thanks. :-| GSR
RE: How to change text
A last question before downloading gimp 1.1.x: i am loading a .psd file, and not .pcx, is there a chance that information about text fonts can be retrieved? That is more complex. There are saver and loader for PSD (two separate plugins IIRC), but I doubt they will do all the things PSD format supports. And to add more problems, remember that Gimp uses X fonts while Photoshop uses other system. GSR
Re: Dual processor
I am planning a upgrade of my machine, so I am trying to find out, if I can have any advantage of a dual processor system, because it actually is cheaper with a dual Celleron 500 MHz as a 700 MHz Athlon/AMD or PIII, and I have 256 Mb PC100 RAM, which will be to slow for these machines! If it is good quality RAM, it is not slow, I have a K7 700 with bus at 100 MHz (old MoBo) and runs fine, better than P3 with 133 bus. About cheaper, I would have to check, 700 price is going down, it was down when I got mine, so now... I have read the FAQ's on the Gimp homepage, but I can't find any thing about support for multiple processors - does anybody know if the Gimp support dual/multi processors? One thing is true, if the OS can handle multiple CPUs, you can run multiple process at same time. So if Gimp requests a X thing and then keeps working at its own things, both will be done at the same time. Or if your machine is multiuser (I have some that do that), or like to compile in background, SMP is also good. IIRC there was some notes somewhere about optimizng for SMP, so maybe some tasks can use two processors. Plugins run as separate processes, that is sure, so you can run two full speed things at same time (different images). You could check the source or CVS for info (look for changelog files). GSR
Re: gdyntext
but what is the LC_NUMERIC variable and what is C ? just to know if it breaks something else. It is for locale things, in this case numbers. Setting it to C means that no translation is done, it uses what the original code has. LANG, LC_* were created for this, to decide how do you want to see numbers, messages, dates and such, C is the untraslated version (normally English, but could be anything). So break anything? I doubt, but you will not get messages translated (no problem if you know the languaje they appear on). GSR
Re: Newbie questions.
[Some comments, maybe bit off topic] 3) I understand as well that one has to be careful not to have too large a swap space compared to your actual RAM, as it can end up slowing thigs down. Well, swap / RAM size is a tricky thing, some OS force you how much swap you must have, others leave you complete freedom. In any case, you must study what do you want to do with that computer, how many RAM, and if you can live swapping out things. OS is also important, no only if it forces or not, but in other details, like those ones that instead of swaping code just reload from disk (aka swap is only used for real data). For example, I have machines with services running that are used rarely, so to have lot of swap is good, cool the kernel swaps them out, and you keep running, no RAM problems. The recommendation is to have enough RAM so all fast and simultaneous task can run in RAM (browser, shell, Gimp, etc), and send to disk those "active less than 5 seconds each hour" (inetd httpd servers in a workstation that also does some server tasks). I found cool to have multiple X sessions, only one is usable in the local console, so the rest go to swap when needed. BTW, in most OS you can create swap files, not only partitions. Great when having temporay problems. Read the man pages for more info. Any mistakes are mine and not my knowledgeable source :^) Not bad in general, swap related things normally require a deep knowledge of the OS internals (I know a bit, mainly that each OS is a world ;] ). GSR
Re: Combining several *.pbm into one picture with layers
I want to automatically combine several image files (*.pbm) into one image with each of the combined files on a seperate layer. As one helpful soul explained it to me: [...] 3. Repeat for all remaining images. Thanks, yes! That's how I did it. But that's not very automatically, is it? :o) IIRC there is a plugin or script to load sequences of files. I think it has something related about the Gimp Animation Plugin, or something. Please search the Registry and the list archives for more info. If it does not exist (damn bad brain), you could write the script yourself. GSR
Re: Install freefont and sharefont: How is it done?
I have not tried the gimp-extra- fonts rpm as I have trouble downloading it at home and can do so tomorrow when I'm at achool. IIRC that package is just freefonts + sharefont in one file. Food for thought -- I can live with it like it is but for the future I'd like to have an rpm to install it. How do I change that one little thing in the script. of Maybe make rpms for other fonts??? http://www.rpm.org/ for RPM, or /usr/doc/HOWTO for font things. In general, put all new fonts in a dir, run the tools to creat fonts.dir (and the other file I can not remember, I am away from Unix machines now), then change font server or X server config. The important point is to not mix, so package systems never find a dir with data that it did not put there. Second, I have been doing some reading on RedHat and they no longer use xset. They use chkfontpath to add true type fonts to the font server xset is a tool to change some X server things. You can use it too, I did. (it's no longer part of XF86). That seemed to work fine, but freefont and sharefont are not tt are they These true type fonts are then stored Freefont and sharefont are Type 1, IIRC. in /usr/share/fonts/truetype and you use ttmkfdir after you've added more fonts. TT is what MS Windows uses, for example. You can get loads of free TT fonts from the net, and buy some quality CDs. Most of apps come with extra fonts, for example maybe your printer CD includes some fonts, or a program that includes more TT fonts. Type1 are harder to find. GSR
