Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

[STEVE LEVINE]

I remember the guy who made the Silvergen CS generator mentioned that he gave a 
gallon of CS to a friend with cancer and it cleared in a month. Silver 
apparently causes cancer cells to dedifferentiate (change back to normal cells).

Steve


> On September 22, 2021 at 8:24 PM Williams  wrote:
> 
> 
> I heard (from a reliable source) drinking a couple of quarts of CS per day 
> kills cancer cells.  
> didn't get all the info.  This is a miracle breakthrough, or a cruel hoax.  
> Anyone had any experience with CS and Cancer?
> 
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Re: CS>Everyone vaccinated for covid will DIE, warns French virologist – NaturalNews.com

[Steve G]

Checking on this it appears that Luc has never said this. 

On Thursday, May 27, 2021, 03:46:51 PM EDT, Gmail  
wrote:  
 
 
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-25-everyone-vaccinated-will-die-within-two-years.html

This is the way the world ends: not with a bang, but with a whimper.T.S. Eliot










  

CS>Re: L-Tryptophan

[Steve G]

I was curious about the L-Tryptophan, so I looked it up on WebMD, which I 
consider to be pretty trustworthy.   They pointed out that there are numerous 
foods from which we can obtain all the tryptophan we need by eating a healthy 
well-balanced diet.   They listed out numerous foods that contain tryptophan.
In addition, they do publish a list of ten side-effects that can be due to 
L-tryptophan.   So I wouldn't say there are 'no side effects.'   
Virtually anything you can consume has side effects for someone, so when there 
is a claim of no side-effects for something I get curious and nose around a bit 
online.  
As far as Cipro goes, it seems to be something which rarely causes trouble, but 
when it does, it can cause substantial trouble.  So I think the warning against 
the use of Cipro or other antibiotics that utilize fluoride is well warranted.
Having said all this, I WILL claim there are no side-effects of any homeopathic 
preparation.   My rationale for that is that regardless of which homeopathic 
preparation one is taking, if it is prepared according to homeopathic 
guidelines it is extremely unlikely that even one atom of the original 
substance would be contained in the homeopathic preparation, and that the 
homeopathic 'medicine' will be impossible to differentiate from distilled water.



 

On Thursday, June 18, 2020, 10:41:17 PM EDT, Jean Baugh 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi,
I would like to warn people to be on the alert for doctors who still prescribe 
CIPRO (an antibiotic derived from fluoride).  I was greatly harmed by this one 
and am currently taking homeopathic remedies years after the obvious damage was 
done.  The last time I checked, there were 17 antibiotics with different names 
using this remedy from hell.  CIPRO is just a short name to describe 
Ciprofloxacin.  This deadly antibiotic has at least one black box warning so 
the FDA is not unaware of this.
It is loudly trumpeted that it effectively treats anthrax.  OK, maybe it does 
but in my opinion it should be banned until anthrax rears its head, and if it 
does, surely there are many more things that will work with less side effects.
They hand this prescription out like it is candy for all manner of things such 
as UTI (I drink colloidal silver), and give it to people who have had surgery 
for burst tendons, even though one of the many, many side effects is burst 
tendons.  
And by the way, Prozac is made with fluoride.  I remember when Prozac was put 
on the market and 'they' immediately went after L-Tryptophan to force it off 
the market. They said, there was some contaminated L-Tryptophan and this was 
done for our safety.  One of the most unusual side effects of Prozac is that it 
can cause a person to suddenly gamble away their life savings.  As far as I 
know, L-Trptophan is safe as can be and is greatly beneficial for sleep and to 
relieve stress.  In other words, no side effects.
Jean

  

Re: CS>The Truth Behind Bill Gates' Depopulation Agenda - YouTube

[Steve G]

Whenever I see a video with Bill Gates talking and gesticulating, what I see 
instead is Woody Allen instead.
I clicked on the link in the email and watched as much as I could stand.   This 
was in spite of my normal protocol to NEVER click on links in bulletin board 
emails that contain nothing except a link.
That's just me though, others can do whatever they want.
Steve

 

On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 07:14:56 AM EDT, Gmail 
 wrote:  
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PYIlH_jHHc


The germ is nothing; the terrain is everything. 
Louis Pasteur






  

Re: CS>conspiracy abounds

[Steve G]

I've been in the silverlist for years now.  I've mostly been on the sidelines 
for the last 8 years or so, but recently have been more involved and reading 
more of the emails that come through.
It's my personal observation that the character of the silverlist has changed 
dramatically from when I was first involved.  When I first became involved, 
almost all discussion was on the various uses of the CS and how to get the most 
benefit, how to brew it properly and so on.   Now I'm seeing very little of 
that, but a great deal of conspiracy theory.  My general take on conspiracy 
theories is that they are the product of the imagination of people who want to 
have their lives to be bigger than they are actually.  So I am VERY skeptical 
of most conspiracy theories.   But just because they are suspect in general, 
doesn't  mean that there is never anything real to them.   I believe that if 
one has compelling evidence to support such a theory, rather than just a whole 
bunch of assumptions, that it would merit more serious consideration.





 

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020, 12:31:30 PM EDT, Reid Harvey 
 wrote:  
 
 
GreetingsAll, I have the greatest appreciation of the Silverlist and what we 
can do tosupport the understanding of CS but in my view there’s much too much 
here aboutconspiracy theory and the deep state, etc. So much about these 
viewpoints is really simplistic as if to suggestpredictable patterns.  That 
good and evilco-exist seems to be a fact of life that has been from time 
immemorial.

Do peoplehere believe that FDR, Franklin Roosevelt was a good guy; a good 
president?  Look at the back of a one dollar bill and you’llsee something he 
was instrumental in putting there:  The pyramid and all seeing eye of 
theIlluminati.  It’s widely acknowledgedthat the Illuminati has been involved 
in a lot of conspiracy, but does thismake FDR a bad guy?  It’s tiresome toread 
so much about conspiracy theory when we could be letting people know aboutthe 
wonders of CS.
  

Re: CS>Corona plandemic

[Steve G]

I think it is unwise or irresponsible to assume that all hospital deaths are 
reported as COVID-19 deaths.    I don't believe that the hospitals are 
reporting all deaths as if they are due to COVID-19.  

 

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020, 09:58:12 AM EDT, Gmail 
 wrote:  
 
 Reid, i believe the virus went thru our school system in Nov/dec last 
year.Yes, go back to school now. Go back to work. I’m in E. Tn.This is the 
mother of all false flags.  Meth has killed more people here.Any hospital death 
is reported as COV caused, if possible. Its about federal money.Newspaper 
motto- “If it bleeds, it leads”

“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and 
monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before 
tomorrow morning."    Henry Ford




  

Re: CS>Most will test positive for "a" corona virus of some kind.

[Steve G]

I don't know what to say here.   There will be an election.  Trump is NOT the 
last POTUS, and lock down is temporary.  Everything has NOT been turned over to 
FEMA and the constitution has NOT been suspended.  We are not under FEMA 
command.  
And i do have plenty of food.   Plus plenty more at the grocery stores.   
I've viewed as much of that video as I could stand... the guy comes across 
as a conspiracy theorist.  Not the good kind that could conceivably be onto 
something, but one of your typical kooks that makes wild assumptions and is so 
very hungry to be part of something really big.
Steve

 

On Monday, April 6, 2020, 12:31:07 PM EDT, Ron  wrote:  
 
   Oboyoboyoboy!
 Just watched this. I view most of Mannarino's vids. Glad you didn't let me 
miss this one.
 This poop is here to stay. There will be no election & Trump is the last 
POTUS. This country will be in lock down period.
 If I heard right Trump said, in one appearance, that he had initiated 
(something or other) and had turned everything over to FEMA. If that is true 
then the constitution has been suspended and we are under FEMA command.
 Got food?
 
 Ron
 
 On 4/5/2020 5:14 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
  
 Wear a badge if you are negative for the virus? WEAR A MARK? A WCB President 
CALLING FOR FORCED, MANDATORY, UNIVERSAL COVID-19 TESTING. Mannarino 
   

Re: CS>Vaccination or no vaccination

[Steve G]

Well,  I almost never get sick, so it is generally not an issue for me.  Except 
due to my age, I'm considered susceptible to a lot of things, so my doc wants 
me to get flu vax, shingles, pneumonia, and something else... I forget.  I did 
take a flu vax last week when Iwas in the hospital for my heart attack.  
Absolutely no repercussions.
I have never been vaccinated for whooping cough.  I had this full blown disease 
when I was four around 1957.    So I guess there was no need after that.   But 
that was over 60 years ago.   Does anyone know whether I should get whooping 
cough vaccinated after so many years?
Regardless, I get the feeling that many of the people on this list think that 
vaccines are bad.   I am not one of those people.  
So, to answer YOUR question, if my doctor's office was insisting I really 
needed some particular vaccination, I'd go for it.   








On Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 09:55:57 AM EST, Bernadette Burch 
 wrote:  
 
 I am jumping into the conversation a little late.
 I refuse all the offered vaccines, no flu vacs, no pneumonia vacs, no shingle 
vacs, etc., .  They never argue with me.  I had a nurse say “we have to ask you 
if you want them, but between you and me, we think you are right to refuse 
them”.  
I did, however, accept the whooping cough vaccination, considering my daughter 
said “no whooping cough vaccine, no holding your new granddaughter”.  This was 
a no brainer.  
Bernadette

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On Jan 28, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Nenah Sylver  wrote:





Reid wrote: Can others on the list please tell me, how do you respond (or not) 
when the doctor's staff tell you you really, really need that vacination. I'm 
inclined to tell them I'll only do this if I were to be barred from further 
appointments. Am I being unreasonable or are they?

  

Marshall wrote: We just say no.  If they can't accept that, then we change 
doctors.

  

=

I agree. We are paying for their services and aren't obligated to make them 
happy. They are supposed to abide by what we want, not vice-versa. I would 
never consent to being bullied like that.

  

Nenah

  

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Re: CS>EDTA to chelate heavy metals

[Steve G]

I did some googling and found there is no consensus for a definition of 'heavy 
metal.'   However, the most commonly used definition is those metals which have 
a density equal to or greater than five times that of water.
Aluminum has a density of only 2.7 so it is not a heavy metal based on the most 
commonly used criteria.
Aluminum has no nutrient or essential mineral value so it is fine to eliminate 
it from your body if you can find a way to do that.
It is also one of the most common metals on the planet and you come into 
contact with it every day.  It's in the soil naturally.  It's residue can be 
found in most animals and plants.  
However, this casual exposure to aluminum is unlikely to be harmful.   Aluminum 
toxicity seems only to occur when someone has ingested high levels of aluminum, 
or has exposure to aluminum dust in an industrial setting.
Here's one of the more relevant sites that discusses this without obvious bias. 
  https://www.winchesterhospital.org/health-library/article?id=164929
 

 

On Thursday, January 16, 2020, 02:46:25 PM EST, Jean Baugh 
 wrote:  
 
 H Phil,
I take Nature’s Way Selenium, 200 mg.  On the back it says it is 
L-selenomethionine  I duck-ducked if Selenium is a heavy metal.  The answer is 
yes.
Then asked if what I have is natural but they can’t just say yes or no, but it 
implied it was natural.
So, if Selenium is a heavy metal and you have too much of it, my thought is 
some EDTA to chelate.  Swanson has this.  I take potassium with this because a 
toxicologist told me to.   My question to the doctor was would EDTA take out 
Mercury?
Amazing what heavy metals are.  I would never have guessed aluminum is a heavy 
metal.
Jean



https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bbb1961/47/4/47_4_807/_pdf

  

Re: CS>Silver, Stem Cells and the work of DR Robert O Becker PHD -- a post I made to a friend of mine THIS AM

[Steve]

I have the Sota unit and the Earth Pulse under the mattress for sleep. 
Wondering if the unit from Australia works any better than the Sota?

Thanks 
Steve 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Douglas Haack  wrote:
> 
> Here I present the modern pioneer of PEMF (Pulsed Electro Magnetic Force) in 
> practice and in theory: Dr  Robert O. Becker -- Some will know of him well . 
> . .
> 
> I wrote this to a friend of mine and thought there will be SilverListers and 
> others who might be interested . . .
> 
> His books "the Body Electric and Cross Currents" -- I've owned these for 16 
> years.
> 
> His son Paul Becker runs a commercial outfit:  one of the 
> major articles is the following < Brainwave Entrainment most effective with 
> Magnetic Field Therapy>, etc etclots of other good stuff, not cheap but 
> effective !!
> 
> 
> 
> Brainwave Entrainment most effective with Magnetic Field Therapy
> Brainwaves, brainwave entrainment - benefits and uses, & how magnetic field 
> therapy is the most effective brainw...
> 
> 
> I'm in my 70's, and use pulsed magnetism almost every day, on my hands, hips, 
> even my prostate. Effective for many conditions, does no harm to try, even on 
> the Skull/BRAIN. . . .
> 
> Becker's major discovery (by trade he was a bone doctor), Orthopedic 
> Specialist, and pioneered the use of very thin Silver Ion Anodes with a small 
> current/voltage between broken bones that failed to heal long term. This 
> technique sintered silver ions into the wound/break with healing effects.
> 
> The Paul Becker website above and I have no commercial interest,(Robert's 
> son) site has some very good information and their units are probably very 
> effective health wise . . . R O Becker discovered that silver promotes Stem 
> Cells, these are needed to heal anything !!!
> 
> His work/application of silver led to bandages being coated with silver and 
> this revolutionised the successful treatment of burn victims. Again the 
> silver promotes Stem Cells etc... shades of a "Colloid of SILVER", I make CS 
> in 5 litre lots, use it every day . . . "Ole Bob" Berger built my generator, 
> may he rest in peace . . .
> 
> Get with it and be well, I've used pulsers now for 19 years, prefer the Sota 
> unit, (very reliable people) have worn out two, onto my third and also have a 
> model made in Australia, a small jumbo unit . . .
> 
> In SILvation,  and may the PEMF "Force be with YOU" (Pulsed Electro Magnetic 
> Force)  --  DH
> 

Re: CS>OT - blood sugar control

[Steve]

I had a client that used a zapper for a couple of months that said it greatly 
improved his A1c levels. Might be worth a try. He used 15hz.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2018, at 10:39 AM, PT Ferrance  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Besides Ceylon Cinnamon, does anyone have another idea for controlling 
> blood sugar... of course, keeping sugar intake down is understood.
> Thanks.
> PT
> 

Re: CS>Re: CS/blood electrification

[STEVE LEVINE]

John Wesley the famous evangelist was apparently healing people with some form 
of electricity way back in the mid 1700s. Very interesting to say the least:

https://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/1995/PSCF12-95Malony.html


Steve

> On August 5, 2018 at 12:18 AM Dan Nave  wrote:
> 
> I think the mechanics and effects of body electrification will be shown 
> to be incredibly complex and the sodium hydroxide and hypochlorous acid 
> theory will be shown to be too simplistic to account for all the effects of 
> body electrification.  It may be more likely with direct current stimulation 
> as in the Godzilla zapper sort of application, but when you get to pulsed 
> waveforms, square waves vs sine waves, biphasic vs monophasic pulses, various 
> pulse rates and frequencies of pulses, then all bets will be off.  The body 
> apparently also responds to electric fields as well, as was shown in 
> experiments of limb regeneration.
> 
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Ode Coyote  mailto:silverpuppy1...@gmail.com > wrote:
> 
> > > Electrons do not enter the bloodstream.  No free 
> electrons can exist in a liquid...they are transported by electro chemical 
> reactions...'piggybacking' on ionic compounds.
> > What happens is that the salt in your blood is split into Sodium 
> > Hydroxide and Hypochlorous Acid, changing the PH of your blood at either 
> > electrode site.
> > Changing the polarity reverses the PH change, going through neutral 
> > before becoming the opposite electro chemical.
> > Bare wires on skin do not produce electrical burns...rather, 
> > chemical burns
> > 
> > Your nerves use fast chemical reactions in an insulated sheath to 
> > deliver communications...not like "electricity over a metal wire"
> > If the voltage and power is high enough, the electricity will form 
> > a plasma channel [ioinizing everything in its path as a conductive high 
> > temperature gas] and essentially blow a vapor hole through you . [Lightning 
> > Strike, electric chair, grabbing a 440 volt line while standing in a puddle]
> > 
> > Ode
> > 
> > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Reid Harvey 
> > mailto:reidharvey7...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > 
> > > > > If I might chime in I'm recalling 
> > conversation from ten years or more ago.  Two electrodes wrapped in gauze 
> > would be placed on either side of the artery at one's wrist, with a small 
> > current, such that electrons get into the blood stream.  Sorry I can't 
> > remember some of the details, such as the voltage and timing and the nature 
> > of the electrons, etc.
> > > 
> > > What we had discussed I believe, was that electrons get into 
> > > the blood stream, fending off pathogens.  In case others do not recall 
> > > this, wouldn't it be in the archives?  As mentioned some months ago I had 
> > > managed to assist a friend in overcoming a terrible toothache, that he 
> > > placed the electrodes on either side of the infected tooth.  I seem to 
> > > recall that he did this for a period of a few minutes every couple of 
> > > hours, such that the toothache was gone after two days.
> > > 
> > > Reid
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:31 AM, MaryAnn Helland 
> > > mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > > > Where can I learn more about 
> > > this, Phil?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 11:42 PM, Phil Morrison 
> > > > mailto:philmorrison...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Blood electrification operates on a periodic square 
> > > > wave platform.
> > > > 
> > > > Rivitive and the like operate on a periodic sine wave
> > > > function. 
> > > > 
> > > > These are totally different waveforms ... no 
> > > > comparison. 
> > > > 
> > > > The square wave restores the blood colloidal system, 
> > > > separates sticky cells and breaks up agglomerates, creating "immortal" 
> > > > blood.
> > > > 
> > > > Three cheers for Bob Beck.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > 
> > > 
> 

Re: CS>leg cramps

[STEVE LEVINE]

The easiest way to get a direct therapeutic dosage of magnesium into the legs 
is magnesium oil which is absorbed transdermally. The most economic way is to 
make the oil using mag chloride crystals 50/50 just add hot water and dissolve. 
I use this one.

https://www.amazon.com/ASUTRA-Zechstein-Magnesium-Chloride-Flakes/dp/B01KID9XK6/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2_a_it?ie=UTF8=1531791301=8-2-fkmr0=ASUTRA%2BPure%2BZechstein%2BMagnesium%2Bcrystals=1
 
https://www.amazon.com/ASUTRA-Zechstein-Magnesium-Chloride-Flakes/dp/B01KID9XK6/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2_a_it?ie=UTF8=1531791301=8-2-fkmr0=ASUTRA%2BPure%2BZechstein%2BMagnesium%2Bcrystals=1

 

Thanks

Stevehttp://www.energyhealersteve.com

702-768-1804

> On July 16, 2018 at 9:30 PM Helena Hughes  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear Folks,
> 
> Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg 
> cramps that wake me up several times a night.  I take magnesium but maybe  
> not the right type, brand? Any advice?
> I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I have 
> an underlying condition of bronchiectasis and sleep is so important for me.
> Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
> Thank you,
> Helena
> 


 

Re: CS>osteoarthritis

[Steve]

That’s actually my site so if you have any questions about the Terminator 
Zapper just holler !

Thanks
Steve 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2018, at 3:55 PM, MaryAnn Helland  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Elizabeth!!
> MA
> 
> 
> On Friday, July 6, 2018 8:31 AM, Elizabeth Williams  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> This is the same type that Bodhi would talk about MaryAnn.
> https://energyhealersteve.com/the-terminator-t2-zapper/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8ZycycqK3AIVj8DACh2G8AWWEAAYASAAEgIrl_D_BwE
> The Terminator Zapper By Don Croft | Energy Healing ...
> The Best-Selling Zapper in the World! The Don Croft Terminator Zapper is the 
> best-selling Hulda Clark zapper on the market and has been for a number of 
> years.
> energyhealersteve.com
> 
> From: MaryAnn Helland 
> Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 7:32 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>osteoarthritis
>  
> Can you please share the website for the zapper -- and identify which one, as 
> requested above?  Thanks.
> MA
> 
> 
> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 11:12 AM, david moskovits  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Do you think this would help with MS? how long and where do you apply? thanks 
> From: Shirley Reed 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 3:40 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>osteoarthritis
>  
>   Silver seems to be good for nearly everything.  But a Don Croft zapper has 
> taken down the osteoarthritis in my hands for  20 years now.  No pain, no 
> disfigurement of the hands and fingers, no heat or redness for 20 years.  No 
> meds either.  And 9 volt batteries last for 60 or  70 hours or so and are 2 
> for a dollar at the dollar store.  Don't know about fibro but suspect it will 
> do the same for it.  My son's acne was gone in 3 days.  Extreme fatigue on my 
> part took a couple of weeks to greatly resolve and longer to be completely 
> gone.  
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: CS>HELP...I am loosing my sense of taste...

[STEVE LEVINE]

Hi Debbie,


That doesn't sound like normal aging to me. It could be a pinched nerve going 
to the taste buds in the upper cervical vertebrae. A good chiro could take care 
of that if that is the issue. If it is pathogenic/parasites then a zapper and 
antiparasitics would be helpful.

Thanks

Stevehttp://www.energyhealersteve.com

702-768-1804

> On May 11, 2018 at 8:32 PM Deborah Gerard  wrote:
> 
> Can you all comment for me please,
> 
> I am going to be 67 next month and in the last year or more I have really 
> noticed a dive in my ability to taste things. Is this normal part of aging? I 
> eat real clean no gmo's, no wheat, no diary, no processed foods, filter my 
> water that is all I drink, take all the vitamins and minerals and make CS and 
> take that daily...no hair dye no deodorant no non-stick cookware.
> I cut out sugar and I notice if I eat at someones house say a desert I am 
> totally miserable the next day all day with incredible pressure in my 
> head...could I have parasites maybe?
> 
> Thanks tons in advance,
> 
> Debbie...Happy Mother's Day to all you ladies too
> 


 

Re: CS>Dry Eyes

[STEVE LEVINE]

powders

Thanks


Steve http://www.energyhealersteve.com/

> On March 22, 2018 at 9:26 PM PT Ferrance <ptf2...@bellsouth.net> wrote: 
> 
> Hi,
> Are these liquids or powders?  
> Thanks.
> PT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> From: STEVE LEVINE <scl...@cox.net>
> To: RaVen Sequoia <aslra...@gmail.com>; silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 9:10 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Dry Eyes
> 
> Either of the to two national brands will work Opti-MSM and Lignisul.
> Thanks 
> 
> Steve
> 

> 
> http://www.energyhealersteve.com/
> 
> 702-768-1804
> 
> > > On March 22, 2018 at 8:22 PM RaVen Sequoia <aslra...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Steve, 
> > 
> > Is there a specific MSM brand that you'd recommend (and allowed to 
> > share,not sure if this is allowed on this forum) for eye drops?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > RaVen
> > 
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 5:48 PM, STEVE LEVINE < scl...@cox.net 
> > mailto:scl...@cox.net > wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Mix 1/4 level teaspoon of MSM to one ounce of 
> > CS (two tablespoons = 1 ounce) 
> > >     You can put drops into your eyes for any eye infections, you 
> > > will be surprised how well you will see. This combo mixture is also known 
> > > to dissolve floaters.
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > Steve
> > > 
> > > 18 at 5:21 PM Paul Steel < pste...@yahoo.com 
> > > mailto:pste...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Spraying ASEA in my eyes helped...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 5:20:07 PM EDT, pc < 
> > > pcassidy1...@gmail.com mailto:pcassidy1...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Has anybody here used CS for dry eyes.  I have one eye that 
> > > is really giving me trouble.  Using preservative free eye drops that help 
> > > a little.  Started CS on Monday ..seems a little better.  Doctor 
> > > prescribed steroid drops .. i'm hesitant to get that filled.  Any advice 
> > > ?   Tks   Tricia
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Quote: 
> > 
> > 
> > "Problems can become opportunities when the right people come 
> > together." 
> > 
> > 
> > -Robert South 
> >  
> > 
> > > 
> 
> 


 

Re: CS>Dry Eyes

[STEVE LEVINE]

Either of the to two national brands will work Opti-MSM and Lignisul.

Thanks


Steve

http://www.energyhealersteve.com


702-768-1804

> On March 22, 2018 at 8:22 PM RaVen Sequoia <aslra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve, 
> 
> Is there a specific MSM brand that you'd recommend (and allowed to 
> share,not sure if this is allowed on this forum) for eye drops?
> 
> 
> 
> RaVen
> 
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 5:48 PM, STEVE LEVINE <scl...@cox.net 
> mailto:scl...@cox.net > wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > Mix 1/4 level teaspoon of MSM to one ounce of CS (two tablespoons = 
> > 1 ounce) 
> > 
> > You can put drops into your eyes for any eye infections, you will 
> > be surprised how well you will see. This combo mixture is also known to 
> > dissolve floaters.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > 
> > 18 at 5:21 PM Paul Steel <pste...@yahoo.com 
> > mailto:pste...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Spraying ASEA in my eyes helped...
> > 
> > 
> > On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 5:20:07 PM EDT, pc < 
> > pcassidy1...@gmail.com mailto:pcassidy1...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Has anybody here used CS for dry eyes.  I have one eye that is 
> > really giving me trouble.  Using preservative free eye drops that help a 
> > little.  Started CS on Monday ..seems a little better.  Doctor prescribed 
> > steroid drops .. i'm hesitant to get that filled.  Any advice ?   Tks   
> > Tricia
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > > 
> 
> 
> --
> Quote: 
> 
> 
> "Problems can become opportunities when the right people come together." 
> 
> 
> -Robert South 
>  
> 

Re: CS>Dry Eyes

[STEVE LEVINE]

Mix 1/4 level teaspoon of MSM to one ounce of CS (two tablespoons = 1 ounce) 

You can put drops into your eyes for any eye infections, you will be surprised 
how well you will see. This combo mixture is also known to dissolve floaters.

Thanks


Steve

http://www.energyhealersteve.com

18 at 5:21 PM Paul Steel <pste...@yahoo.com> wrote:


Spraying ASEA in my eyes helped...


On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 5:20:07 PM EDT, pc <pcassidy1...@gmail.com> wrote:


Has anybody here used CS for dry eyes.  I have one eye that is really giving me 
trouble.  Using preservative free eye drops that help a little.  Started CS on 
Monday ..seems a little better.  Doctor prescribed steroid drops .. i'm 
hesitant to get that filled.  Any advice ?   Tks   Tricia


 

Re: CS>Skin cancer/Melanoma...Or?

[Steve G]

With no photos and no tests of what may or may not have been there, you will 
have no proof of anything.  You can't claim that silver cured a cancerous tumor 
since there is nothing proving a cancerous tumor existed.  Since all we'll have 
is your description of what you observed it just becomes another anecdotal 
story.
It could be that your friend was a bit OCD about picking at things, and when 
you started with the silver and bandaid it kept him or her from making things 
worse.
But regardless, I am glad that they are on the road to recovery.   Reminds me 
of those dreams I  get occasionally in which I pick at my face or ear, and 
gradually pick away huge amounts of skin just to find nothing underneath.



 

On Thursday, October 19, 2017, 9:16:35 PM EDT, Neville 
 wrote:  
 
  
I didn't want to speak of this just yet,  but I am mentioning it now anyway.  
The following is a personal observation.




A spot had been located on the top of a persons nose for many months, just half 
way down from the bridge where glasses sit on the nose.  After several months, 
and not knowing what it was, the person had been picking/scratching at it to 
get rid of it.  Eventually when it was brought to my attention it was a perfect 
'hole', about the size of a match head in size, or perhaps a little smaller, 
with a white spot in the centre 'deep' down in that hole, like a 'bump'.  The 
white spot I believe was cartilage.  I immediately shyte myself when I saw this.




For the last several weeks I have been dosing it with silver.  Continually 
wetting a bandaid over some time lapse.  The hole started to get larger 
initially, like 'elongating/spreading' and showing raw meat.  I thought we 
would be in serious trouble, but, after more time lapse, a scab has formed deep 
in the wound.  I think (believe) it was some sort of skin cancer or some form 
of melanoma.




My opinion (belief) is, the silver was chasing cancer cells in the meat tissue 
surrounding that hole over time.  After further time lapse a scab formed, and 
with no further raw meat evident or visible and/or exposed, and/or spreading.  
I am thinking 'cancer?' cells had been 'chased' in the flesh/meat by silver.




At the moment things are looking pretty good I have to say, but, I will see 
what happens over more time lapse.  Now I simply get this person to keep 
dropping silver onto that open air scab during the day while awake.  My 
assumption is, the silver will continue to regenerate the tissue below that 
scab.  I don't believe it was dermatitis, it was too deep into the flesh, and 
spreading, and I consider the 'white' bump deep into that hole was cartilage?




If this treatment proves successful, it will be undeniable personal proof of 
what Dr Robert O Becker had researched, silver will degenerate and regenerate 
flesh/tissue/meat from DNA stem cells at the wound site.  It's a pity I didn't 
take photos at the start, and the progression, also a pity I could not mention 
this to a Doctor, you can't discuss this with a Doc here.




If anyone has a considered opinion, I could be interested to hear it?  There is 
plenty of pictures on the Net showing skin cancer/s etc, but not exactly like 
this one of course, they are all different, and I'm no expert on skin cancers 
etc but I do think this was a form of skin cancer and not just simply 
dermatitis, dermatitis doesn't go that deep into meat/tissue, and spread by 
eating away flesh...Or does it?  If this actually works, this will not just be 
empty words, it will come from first hand experience.  I have to say though, 
it's looking better each day goes by now, but, we will see I guess?  I should 
know in a couple/several weeks or so I suppose?  Either way we'll find out if 
this worked or not in the fullness of time?




N.






  

Re: CS>OT - CBD OIL

[Steve]

Even without the orgone it's a great zapper.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Ron <ron@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I gotta say that I don't believe in the Orgone stuff.
> Ron
> 
>> On 9/19/2017 9:20 AM, Steve wrote:
>> Easy zapping.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Mitchel Davis <mddav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey, any certain blood zappers you all would recommend? Thanks.
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 12, 2017 11:59 AM, "Jaxi Schulz" <jaxi.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> when you reply using gmail it condenses previous messages at the bottom of 
>>>> the response screen as 3 dots.  If you click on the 3 dots it expands the 
>>>> previous stuff and then you can delete as much or as little as you choose.
>>>> 
>>>> Jaxi
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:55 PM, pc <pcassidy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I too have used the silver as deodorant... will try adding the aloe 
>>>>> vera..  I am now using the MMS (for those familiar with it) as 
>>>>> deodorant..  works great .. lasts all day.  I use 20-25 drops of MMS to 2 
>>>>> oz distilled water.  quick and easy .. lasts as long as it has color .. 
>>>>> about 10 + days.beating the system  yea !
>>>>> p.s.
>>>>> I'm using gmail and it won't allow me to remove the previous emails or 
>>>>> ads.. so cannot trim.  I have not figured a work around on that .. advice 
>>>>> appreciated.  I'm new to gmail.
> 

Re: CS>OT - CBD OIL

[Steve]

Easy zapping.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Mitchel Davis  wrote:
> 
> Hey, any certain blood zappers you all would recommend? Thanks.
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2017 11:59 AM, "Jaxi Schulz"  wrote:
>> when you reply using gmail it condenses previous messages at the bottom of 
>> the response screen as 3 dots.  If you click on the 3 dots it expands the 
>> previous stuff and then you can delete as much or as little as you choose.
>> 
>> Jaxi
>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:55 PM, pc  wrote:
>>> I too have used the silver as deodorant... will try adding the aloe vera..  
>>> I am now using the MMS (for those familiar with it) as deodorant..  works 
>>> great .. lasts all day.  I use 20-25 drops of MMS to 2 oz distilled water.  
>>> quick and easy .. lasts as long as it has color .. about 10 + days.
>>> beating the system  yea !
>>> p.s.
>>> I'm using gmail and it won't allow me to remove the previous emails or 
>>> ads.. so cannot trim.  I have not figured a work around on that .. advice 
>>> appreciated.  I'm new to gmail.

Re: CS>OT - CBD OIL

[Steve]

A shameless plug but I use and sell the Terminator Zapper. Easier to use as 
it's a little smaller than an iPhone and straps onto to your wrist for 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Mitchel Davis  wrote:
> 
> Hey, any certain blood zappers you all would recommend? Thanks.
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2017 11:59 AM, "Jaxi Schulz"  wrote:
>> when you reply using gmail it condenses previous messages at the bottom of 
>> the response screen as 3 dots.  If you click on the 3 dots it expands the 
>> previous stuff and then you can delete as much or as little as you choose.
>> 
>> Jaxi
>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:55 PM, pc  wrote:
>>> I too have used the silver as deodorant... will try adding the aloe vera..  
>>> I am now using the MMS (for those familiar with it) as deodorant..  works 
>>> great .. lasts all day.  I use 20-25 drops of MMS to 2 oz distilled water.  
>>> quick and easy .. lasts as long as it has color .. about 10 + days.
>>> beating the system  yea !
>>> p.s.
>>> I'm using gmail and it won't allow me to remove the previous emails or 
>>> ads.. so cannot trim.  I have not figured a work around on that .. advice 
>>> appreciated.  I'm new to gmail.

Re: CS>Best pure distilled water brands?

[Steve G]

Personally, I don't think there is a best brand.  I buy whatever the grocery 
store carries as long as it's labeled 'distilled.'   They all make it the same 
way and so the product is pretty much the same no matter whose name is on the 
label.     The only issue I can think of is if they have poor bottling 
procedures.
Steve 


  From: RaVen Sequoia <aslra...@gmail.com>
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 12:06 AM
 Subject: CS>Best pure distilled water brands?
   
Hi All again, 
Tried finding best pure distilled water in Amazon. Wasn't impressed in what I 
saw. What brands do you recommend? 


RaVen

   

Re: CS>eye hemorrhage

[STEVE LEVINE]

I seem to recall someone mentioning this issue a long time ago on one of the 
silverlist threads. I believe if you add msm to the CS eyedrops it will 
penetrate deeper into the tissue and you will have better results. Not sure 
about the ratio maybe 10-20% msm. Some folks have added DMSO as well which is 
stronger and deeper penetrating.

> On July 16, 2017 at 2:10 PM PT Ferrance  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Since the list kind of fell apart life is so quiet.  Strange...
> 
> I've had 2 eye hemorrhages recently and am wondering if anyone has any 
> good approaches?
> 
> I also need a really good nasal spray.  CS alone just doesn't do it!
> Thanks.
> Blessings, PT
>  
>  
> 
> 

Re: CS>re: Mike is Well

[Steve G]

In that case, since he isn't cooperating, this group should just migrate to a 
new platform as best we can.  Yahoo groups are still out there and seem to 
still thrive.  Facebook is another possibility, but that forces everyone to  
have a Facebook account.
The status quo of having a group that the owner is neglecting just doesn't work.

Steve 


  From: Jason <resea...@silvermedicine.org>
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 2:31 PM
 Subject: CS>re: Mike is Well
   
...Mike should turn over the account to someone willing to manage it.

...or, the list should be transferred to another host before it shuts
off one day.

I don't mind running a list, there are some good free list server
software packages that can be run from any domain.

~Jason


On 6/5/2017 5:43 AM, Itguy wrote:

> Unfortunately I cannot offer any further assistance.
>
> Mike doesn't have any willingness to manage the list any longer. After
> I explained to him the concerns from list members and the need for him
> to admin the list he said for now he will keep paying the bills but
> can't many any further promises. I told him I would advise that he
> simply delete his entire inbox at his email address and start anew.
> He's too far behind to even attempt to parse through what may amount
> to multiple thousands of emails after many years of neglect. Then once
> deleted he can 'keep up' by checking his list and inbox a couple of
> times a week...
>
> It's been nearly 2 weeks since I made my wellness trip to his home and
> he hasn't checked his email to cleaned out the box, it's still filled
> up. I don't think he took my advice. Mike uses Gmail now but didn't
> provide me with that address so I have no way to reach him other than
> his cell phone number. (should he answer) To be honest, I suspect Mike
> isn't even involved with CS any longer.
>
> All I can say at this point is there isn't anything you can do about
> this list other than to let it deprecate and possibly manually move
> people to a new list. Sorry I cannot be of further help.
>
> --
>    Itguy
>    it...@fastmail.com


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Re: CS>Mike Devour not answering Part II

[Steve G]

I did find that both of these gentlemen show the same address.
 


  From: Tony Moody 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:56 PM
 Subject: CS>Mike Devour not answering
   
Hallo Folks,
Mikes Devour, owner of the silver List, mailbox is full, he hasn't answered 
recent email. Support at Eskimo.com  say that his phone rings but there is a 
generic answering machine message. He lives in south east Michigan according to 
his page https://www.eskimo.com/~mdevour/boatproject.html 
Is there anyone in the area who could try to get something more definite? I 
can't be of much help because I'm round the other side of the world and 9 hours 
earlier than you in USA. 
OK,Tony Moody
  

   

Re: CS>Mike Devour not answering

[Steve G]

I just did a quick white pages search.  There are two Michael G Devour listings 
in Detroit.    One is age 40 - 44 and the other is aged 55 - 59.
I don't know whether this helps at all.


  From: Tony Moody 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:56 PM
 Subject: CS>Mike Devour not answering
   
Hallo Folks,
Mikes Devour, owner of the silver List, mailbox is full, he hasn't answered 
recent email. Support at Eskimo.com  say that his phone rings but there is a 
generic answering machine message. He lives in south east Michigan according to 
his page https://www.eskimo.com/~mdevour/boatproject.html 
Is there anyone in the area who could try to get something more definite? I 
can't be of much help because I'm round the other side of the world and 9 hours 
earlier than you in USA. 
OK,Tony Moody
  

   

Re: CS>BTW, silver nitrate is what we use to treat ceramic granules, with which we put together graulated ceramic water filters. As pathogens pass through a bed of this, they bounce from one silver

[Steve G]

Her PhD is in psychology and holistic health according to a flyer I found via 
Googling.  However, no mention is made of the university from whence this 
degree was acquired.
I think it is a reasonable question if one keeps in mind that a  great student 
or a great mind will be great regardless of which school it attended.   But, 
the best basis by which to judge someone's contributions and expertise is via 
their results.  So the question becomes, 'Does what she say hold water?'
This is harder to answer than you'd think because everything is colored by 
opinion very hard to get to facts.  And many people really don't know the 
difference between the two.
Steve

  From: Reid Harvey <reidharvey7...@gmail.com>
 To: Silverlist Post <silver-list@eskimo.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 8:33 AM
 Subject: CS>BTW, silver nitrate is what we use to treat ceramic granules, with 
which we put together graulated ceramic water filters. As pathogens pass 
through a bed of this, they bounce from one silver contact to next, and are 
de-activated in the process. The filters will be especially useful in 
developing countries, where thousands of small children die every day, due to 
pathogen contaminated water.
   


On Apr 2, 2017 4:36 AM, "bob Larson" <bobli...@att.net> wrote:

silver nitrate is AgNO3
nenah, you never did say where you earned your PhD?was Gary Null there too?



On Apr 2, 2017 12:31 AM, Bill Kingsbury <b.b...@verizon.net> wrote:


The term "NAg" (Silver Nitrate) occurs only four times in thisarticle, that 
refer to one footnote that references a 1969article.

Everywhere else in this article -- that's over 60 places --,"NAg" stands for 
"nano-silver", for which there are92 footnotes, and most of those 92 referenced 
articles were published"recently".

Bill


--- At 08:49 PM 31, 2017-03-31, Nenah Sylver wrote:
>

BKwrote: The journal article can be downloaded here - 4.6 MB PDF:
https://sci-hub.ac/downloads/ bb41/10.1021@acsnano.7b01166. pdf 
 
==
Thanks for the link. Here is a short quote from the article:
[...]
 
Now, I did not read every single word of this article, but I did skimevery 
page. NAg (Silver Nitrate) kept appearing. From my cursory reading,it seems 
that the authors are focusing completely on the silver COMPOUNDSilver 
Nitrate­which, as we know, is NOT electrolytically isolatedsilver!!!
 
Of course medical science won’t discuss EIS because we can make itourselves, 
and there’s no profit in that. It really pays to readcarefully, and read 
between the lines.
 
Nenah
 
Nenah Sylver, PhD
author, The Rife Handbook
of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health
healing from cancer and other diseases 
with non-invasive, effective technology
suppressed by the medical cartel until recently
www.nenahsylver.com 
  
 
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Re: CS>Zappers

[Steve Levine]

The higher frequency 30khz shouldn't burn. So you are using wetted paper towels 
on the handholds? You may need to try getting your body a bit more alkaline.
 PT Ferrance <ptf2...@bellsouth.net> wrote: 

=
I have the Z4Ex and it also burns me even when I put it on pads.  I don't know 
if it is the waveform or the frequencies but I keep getting burned.PT



  From: Steve <scl...@cox.net>
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:08 PM
 Subject: Re: CS>Zappers
   
The zappers with the copper handholds do a better job because they have more 
surface area touching the skin and less chance of irritating the skin for the 
same reason. I use a zapper Z4EX and it works great on many different 
pathogenic issues. I have the Croft T2 zapper that I use when I need hands free 
zapping but it's not as effective as the Z4EX.
Steve

Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 13, 2016, at 5:02 PM, PT Ferrance <ptf2...@bellsouth.net> wrote:


How do you keep the zapper from burning your skin?  I like the idea and I have 
2 including a Don Croft but I get blistered every time.Thanks.PT



  From: Phil Morrison <philmorrison...@gmail.com>
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:45 AM
 Subject: CS>Zappers
   

The immune system you were born with is
about as good as it gets.  Any thing piped
into the body thereafter helps little, or more
likely, may cause damage.   That's where
silver kicks in and picks up the slack.  And,
if the problem still persists, the zapper is
a must.   Sota's silver pulser, which I use,
(or Hulda Clark's zapper, or some other blood
micro-electrifier) really does save the day. 

PS  your body knows naturally how to handle 
silver.  Adding anything to CS is counterproductive.      


   





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Re: CS>Zappers

[Steve]

The zappers with the copper handholds do a better job because they have more 
surface area touching the skin and less chance of irritating the skin for the 
same reason. I use a zapper Z4EX and it works great on many different 
pathogenic issues. I have the Croft T2 zapper that I use when I need hands free 
zapping but it's not as effective as the Z4EX.

Steve

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 5:02 PM, PT Ferrance <ptf2...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> How do you keep the zapper from burning your skin?  I like the idea and I 
> have 2 including a Don Croft but I get blistered every time.
> Thanks.
> PT
> 
> 
> 
> From: Phil Morrison <philmorrison...@gmail.com>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:45 AM
> Subject: CS>Zappers
> 
> 
> The immune system you were born with is
> about as good as it gets.  Any thing piped
> into the body thereafter helps little, or more
> likely, may cause damage.   That's where
> silver kicks in and picks up the slack.  And,
> if the problem still persists, the zapper is
> a must.   Sota's silver pulser, which I use,
> (or Hulda Clark's zapper, or some other blood
> micro-electrifier) really does save the day. 
> 
> PS  your body knows naturally how to handle 
> silver.  Adding anything to CS is counterproductive.  
> 
> 

Re: CS>An interesting article on the gallbladder and bile.

[Steve Levine]

I am a big fan of the Hulda Clark gallbladder/liver flush protocol. I can't 
tell you how many times it has stopped gallbladder attacks almost instantly as 
well as improved digestion for both my wife and myself. 

Steve
 Dan Nave <bhangcha...@gmail.com> wrote: 

=
An interesting article on the gallbladder and bile.  May be of interest to
those wanting to loose weight or those with thyroid issues...

<http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/throwaway-organ-you-cant-live-without>

"Congested bile is linked to a whole host of seemingly unrelated symptoms
including hormone dysfunction, hypothyroidism
<http://www.greenmedinfo.com/disease/hypothyroidism>, hot flashes,
constipation, depression, migraines, insomnia, dry skin, chronic fatigue,
yeast overgrowth, parasites—and the list goes on.

Finnish researchers found hypothyroidism is seven times more likely in
individuals with reduced bile flow. Release of bile triggers the release of
an enzyme that converts T4 into T3, the usable form of thyroid hormone.

Those who improve their bile enjoy a whopping 53 percent bump in
metabolism."


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Re: CS>newbie question

[Steve Levine]

You can mix CS and use DMSO as a carrier topically. I would use a 50/50 ratio. 
There's a good chance it will work.

Steve
 Dan Nave <bhangcha...@gmail.com> wrote: 

=
The colloidal silver will probably never penetrate the pelvic bone.  I
doubt it would be effective.

Dan

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Anita Thompson <ani...@stmarys.qld.edu.au>
wrote:

> Hi
>
> My partner has recently been diagnosed with golden staph in the pelvic
> bone. He is on antibiotics, but I would like to treat him with colloidal
> silver. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I make my own silver and have
> been giving him 10 ml every few days for several months. Any reason this
> hasn't helped?
>
> Thanks Anita
> --
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> *Sent:* Friday, 2 December 2016 6:04:29 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>newbie question
>
> Look in the archives for all older posts and colloidal silver has only 0ne
> "a".
>
> Joe
>
> On 2016-12-01 12:57 PM, Aaron Gannon wrote:
>
> Hi! I'm a newbie to the group. Two questions:
>
> 1. Someone I know has strep throat (resulting from a case of syphilis that
> has since been cured) and wants pure calloidal silver. What is the best
> dosage and where can it be purchased without fear of the product being low
> quality.
>
> 2. Is there a way to see an archive of topics discussed so I can learn
> more about calloidal silver. I'm very aware now the medical establishment
> has been hijacked by money and I'd like to see some conscious people's
> thoughts on calloidal silver as a remedy.
>
> Thank you!
> Aaron
>
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Re: CS>structured water - OT

[Steve Levine]

IMHO water structing devices tend to make water taste smoother. I have a Sota 
magnetic pulser and when I pulse a glass of water for a few min the taste is 
always much smoother. There are also water chargers like orgonite, shungite, 
tachyon discs, crystals etc which can add some interesting qualities to water, 
sometimes giving it more a sparkling taste and energizing qualities. 

 PT Ferrance  wrote: 

=
Did it change the taste, Joe?PT



  From: Joe Huard 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 12:54 PM
 Subject: Re: CS>structured water - OT
   
 Mercola says to put it in the fridge below 39°F I did that yesterday for the 
first time.
 Joe
 
 On 2016-07-17 12:42 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:
  
  Does anyone have experience (good or bad) with structured water and water 
structuring devices either purchased or DIY?  If you do would you mind sharing 
your experiences? 
  Thanks. PT  
  
 
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RE: CS>water ionizers, revisited

[Steve Young]

Nenah,

 

The electrodes I use in my DIY water ionizer, and in good commercial
ionizers, are titanium coated with Platinum (not Palladium).  You can find
them on Amazon, for example, by searching for Platinized Titanium Anodes.
They are expensive but necessary to be non-reactive in the electrolytic
process.  

 

By the way, research in the last few years now shows the beneficial benefit
of water ionizers is NOT that they make the water more alkaline.  It IS
because they  infuse (dissolve) Hydrogen into the water.  Asian countries
are ahead of the US in producing efficient Hydrogen Infusion Machines (HIM),
and there are now some commercial ones on the market, but they are
expensive.  The good ionizers also use what is called a Proton Exchange
Membrane (also used in fuel cells) to ensure only Hydrogen gets infused into
the water.  The resulting product has a pH of about 7, the same as untreated
water.  The concentration of Hydrogen in water is quite low - on the order
of 1 PPM, and the Hydrogen dissipates out of the water fairly quickly
(hours), so the product needs to be drunk soon after it is made.  

 

The best web site I have found to explain the health benefits of Hydrogen
Infused Water is  <http://www.molecularhydrogenfoundation.org/>
http://www.molecularhydrogenfoundation.org/  .  Another good site is
<http://h2healthyliving.com/> http://h2healthyliving.com/ .  

 

Steve

 

From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com]
On Behalf Of Nenah Sylver
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 1:13 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>water ionizers, revisited

 

To all the smart and clever people on this list:

 

I remember a discussion of water ionizers on this egroup and figured you
would know the answer to my questions. Several years ago I bought a water
ionizer unit (the "Athena"), which malfunctioned a couple of times. After
dealing with a corrupt, inept, greedy company-whose inferior packing in fact
contributed to breakage on at least one occasion-I convinced my
great-with-tools-and-building-things significant other that as long as we
had a unit in our possession that couldn't be used in its current state, he
might as well open it up and see about fixing it himself. 

 

So he went onto You Tube and watched a few videos on how to create a water
ionizer, and is now in the process of trying to repair it.

 

My question concerns the material comprising the electrodes. Obviously,
stainless steel is not a good material for water ionizer electrodes, because
we don't want heavy metal to contaminate the water. The best homemade
ionizers (and I'm assuming commercially manufactured ones too) use
electrodes made of titanium.

 

Some sellers of JUST the electrodes coat the titanium electrodes with
palladium, claiming that the palladium is inert and will prevent the
titanium from tarnishing (and thus releasing metallic ions into the water).
However, after doing some research on titanium, I discovered that besides
being the 9th most abundant mineral in the Earth's crust, titanium is made
into airplanes because comparatively speaking it's not very heavy and
DOESN'T RUST. So, is it necessary to use a palladium-covered set of titanium
rods for electrodes?

 

This may be a moot point for me now. Either my unit will be repaired, or
we'll use its electrodes in a homemade unit. However, I still wonder about
the materials used for water ionizer electrodes.

 

I appreciate your input. Thanks in advance.

 

Nenah

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, The Rife Handbook

of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health

healing from cancer and other diseases 

with non-invasive, effective technology

suppressed by the medical cartel until recently

 <http://www.nenahsylver.com> www.nenahsylver.com

 

 

 

 



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Re: CS>imprintable CS

[Steve G]

 This sounds like a bad idea to me.  Why?  Because I do NOT believe that CS can 
be imprinted with frequencies.  For that matter, I don't think any substance 
can be artificially imprinted with frequencies.
Also, it is totally unnecessary to have CS in strengths higher than 20ppm.  

Finally, the description is filled with some fear-mongering nonsense, such as 
bragging about how their rods are 99.99% pure silver (which is what they should 
be anyway).  Then they imply that other CS generator makers are advocating the 
use of silver alloys.  Well, I've never run across a maker that is open to 
impure silver rods in their product.  But it sounds like this company is the 
only one you can trust... and that's what they want you to think.
The use of CS at varying strengths is great.  Colloidal silver is effective 
even at extremely low concentrations.   Ramping it up to 50 ppm, seems silly 
and not cost effective.



  From: PT Ferrance 
 To: Silver-List  
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:30 AM
 Subject: CS>imprintable CS
   
Hi,I don't often post since I still feel like a newbie here in many ways.
I found this website  that offers a device that will imprint CS with 
frequencies  http://www.pulsedtech.com/product/ics/
Does this sound like a good idea or a waste of money?
Thanks.PT
 Rev. PT Ferrance, L.Ac.

  

Re: CS>New Member from Nigeria

[Steve G]

Welcome, Tsokwa.
Just read the messages and postings, ask questions and you'll learn a great 
deal!
 


  From: tsokwaaluandeyaba 
 To: silver-list  
 Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!
   
I am Tsokwa Alu Andeyaba, a Nigerian and a public servant. I want to learn more 
and everything about colloidal silver. I hope your group will help achieve 
that. 
    Thanks 

  

CS>Hydrogen Enriched Water (off topic)

[Steve Young]

In the last few years, medical research has discovered the health benefits of 
drinking water which has been enriched with molecular hydrogen gas “dissolved” 
into it.  See this excellent website:  
http://www.molecularhydrogenfoundation.org/ .  Recently, consumer products to 
make “hydrogen water” have begun to be available.  For example, see some of 
them by searching www.amazon.com for “hydrogen water generator”.



The generators of interest to us work roughly the same as colloidal silver 
generators.  That is, they use electrolysis.  CS generators produce silver ions 
and colloids from the pure silver electrodes.  The electrolyte is purified 
water.



But hydrogen enrichment generators go to great lengths to prevent their 
electrodes from being part of the electrolysis process.  Typically they are 
made of titanium coated with platinum.  The electrolyte is typically filtered 
tap water.  And the current flow between the electrodes is considerably higher 
than in a CS generator.  The desired product is hydrogen gas which bubbles up 
from the negative electrode.  (The oxygen coming from the positive electrode is 
not used).  Some generators use a special permeable membrane to keep the 
hydrogen and oxygen enriched water from mixing together.  The end product 
usually is only 0.3 to 1.2 ppm of hydrogen.



I would like to hear from any of you that regularly drink hydrogen enriched 
water.  What health benefits have you noticed?What generator do you use?  
Have any of you built your own hydrogen water generators?As this is 
off-topic, replies should be sent directly to me.  (Currently I am 
experimenting with version 3 of a DIY hydrogen water generator.)



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Re: CS>Home | LumiThera: New Treatment for Age-Related Macular Degeneration

[Steve Levine]

Looks like it's made for optometrist/opthamologist office. I use units made by 
the LED man http://www.theledman.net/ . 660nm helps with visual acuity. 
 Gmail  wrote: 

=
Try this developed by a good friend.
http://lumithera.com/


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we got a republic or a monarchy?” With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin 
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CS>Copper vs Silver Colloid Production

[Steve Young]

Dear list scientists,



Please help me understand my observed differences in brewing colloidal silver 
vs colloidal copper.



My generator uses a constant current of about 300 microamps, polarity switched 
about every 20 minutes.  Because of the long time it takes to brew a batch, 
stirring is not needed because polarity switching and natural (Brownian) 
particle movement provide adequate particle disbursement.  The electrodes are 
#12 round wire, 5.5 inches long spaced about 2 inches.  I use a quart of steam 
distilled water.



For colloidal silver, the brew time is about 24 hours.  At the end of the brew, 
the voltage across the electrodes is about 2.5 volts.  Tyndall effect is normal.



To brew colloidal copper, I used copper wire instead of silver, with all else 
being the same.  At the end of 24 hours, the Tyndall was barely noticeable.  So 
I let it brew another 24 hours.  At this time, the Tyndall effect was more 
noticeable, but fainter than for the CS brew, meaning either there were less 
particles, and/or they were smaller than the silver particles.  The voltage 
across the electrodes was about 7.2 volts, meaning the ionic conductivity was 
about 3 times lower than the silver brew.



My question:  Why the substantial difference in brew characteristics vs time?  
What chemically is different about the two electrolyses?



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Re: CSelectromagnetic instruments

[Steve]

Try doing a bit of research to see what the clinical benefits are before 
casting it off as religion.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 27, 2015, at 2:55 PM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 08/27/2015 05:43 PM, Steve wrote:
 There is also a big difference when pulsing bio north
 magnetic energy which has many positive healing benefits.
 Google it.
 
 I don't see how this could be real. Magnetic field lined are
 loops and north and south poles are just arbitrary human
 ideas about what to call the sides of planes through space
 that cut across these these loops. Poles are not inherent
 parts of magnetic flux. Sounds like religion, to me.
 
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Re: CSelectromagnetic instruments

[Steve]

There is also a big difference when pulsing bio north magnetic energy which has 
many positive healing benefits. Google it.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 27, 2015, at 2:39 PM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It may make a lot of difference whether you are talking about head/full body 
 exposure, or local exposure.  Your hands are exposed to hundreds of gauss 
 when you hold a refrigerator magnet.
 
 On 08/27/2015 05:06 PM, evelyn wrote:
 I wanted to csution everyone about electromagnetic
 instruments.  Firstly, they are unsafe near the head -
 especilly for anyone with any kind of seizure disorder ,
 alzheimers, or elecrical sensitivity.  Secondly, I saw on a
 website related to Dr. Beck's protocol an instrument for
 producing magnetic fields.  It said it produced mag fields
 in the strength of hundreds of gauss.  This is outrageous
 and could cause death in some people.   5 gauss for short
 exposures is a standard even OSHA uses. as a maximum.Â
 Hundreds of gauss is something the whole neighborhood could
 feel.Â
 
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Re: CSelectromagnetic instruments

[Steve Levine]

http://healyourselfathome.com/HOW/THERAPIES/SOTA/magnetic_pulser.aspx

Magnetic NORTH pole energy (Side of paddle labeled “N”) is used to:

·Inactivate bacteria, fungi and viruses *
·Reduce inflammation
·Increase cellular energy production
·Calm nerves
·Destroy cancer cells
·Increase blood oxygen
·Slow down OVER-active organs
·Reduce pain
·Reduce congestion
·Dissolve Fat
·Increase alkalinity
·Control bleeding


 evelyn evesnew...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
Victor, what are the stats on your item?

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Just FYI, I, and many of my family members have used the Magnetic Pulser
 from Sota Instruments for many years, and we have experienced nothing but
 health benefits. It has been used on every part of our bodies, and
 extensively on the head and gut in some instances. I used it to great
 effect to eliminate tooth abscess in the past, and periodically 'pulse' my
 entire head as a kind of routine maintenance.

 I have posted here before about my experiences with this device.

 And yea, I only use the North end, as indicated on the device.

 Victor

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 8:27 AM, evelyn evesnew...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hundreds of gauss of any artificial magnetic field is unnatural.  If
 something causes bioeffects, which benefit someone, that can harm someone
 else.  Radiation therapy for cancer for exmple.

 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 2:39 PM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 It may make a lot of difference whether you are talking about head/full
 body exposure, or local exposure.  Your hands are exposed to hundreds of
 gauss when you hold a refrigerator magnet.

 On 08/27/2015 05:06 PM, evelyn wrote:

 I wanted to csution everyone about electromagnetic
 instruments.  Firstly, they are unsafe near the head -
 especilly for anyone with any kind of seizure disorder ,
 alzheimers, or elecrical sensitivity.  Secondly, I saw on a
 website related to Dr. Beck's protocol an instrument for
 producing magnetic fields.  It said it produced mag fields
 in the strength of hundreds of gauss.  This is outrageous
 and could cause death in some people.   5 gauss for short
 exposures is a standard even OSHA uses. as a maximum.Â
 Hundreds of gauss is something the whole neighborhood could
 feel.Â


 --
 Regards,

 John Popelish




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Re: CSelectromagnetic instruments

[Steve Levine]

Enjoy:

https://www.google.com/search?q=double+blind+trials+on+pulsed+magnet+field+healingoq=douaqs=chrome.0.69i59l2j69i65l2j69i57j69i60.3915j0j4sourceid=chromees_sm=122ie=UTF-8#q=double+blind+trials+on+pulsed+magnetic+field+healing


 John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
On 08/27/2015 09:25 PM, Steve Levine wrote:
 http://healyourselfathome.com/HOW/THERAPIES/SOTA/magnetic_pulser.aspx

 Magnetic NORTH pole energy (Side of paddle labeled N) is used to:

 Inactivate bacteria, fungi and viruses *
 Reduce inflammation
 Increase cellular energy production
 Calm nerves
 Destroy cancer cells
 Increase blood oxygen
 Slow down OVER-active organs
 Reduce pain
 Reduce congestion
 Dissolve Fat
 Increase alkalinity
 Control bleeding

Have double blind trials been done
(where neither subject nor experimenter
knows whether a subject has received a north pole,
a south pole, or an inactive (placebo) device),
for each of those effects,
so that results could be tabulated,
without human bias?

Were these results published
in a peer reviewed medical journal?

If so, I would like to see that report.

If not, we are back to religion
(claims with no evidence).

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Re: CSelectromagnetic instruments

[Steve Levine]

A few more:

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=double+blind+trials+on+PEMFhl=enas_sdt=0as_vis=1oi=scholartsa=Xved=0CCkQgQMwAGoVChMI6oG2yvXKxwIVAZWICh1Lhwui

Note they may not say whether it was north or south or the frequency but the 
point is PEMFs are being used successfully in medicine and there have been 
double blind trails with positive results. No religion there.

I know it's not worth much to you but I have had some good pain relieving 
results with a SOTA magpulser as well. I love my placebo.

Steve
 John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
On 08/27/2015 11:58 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:
 I was just being a bit playful John. I do think we need
 skepticism, as we are always under attack from false
 prophets, promises, and profiteers. In any case, I think
 PT's google search would put your mind at ease, as it was
 filled with double-blind tests showing clear efficacy.

I burned through a half dozen papers, so far, and found poor
experiment description (not reproducible, from the
description), arbitrary pulse frequency (DC to  Hz) and
amplitude, for no given reasons and slight positive effect,
if any.

We must be finding different papers, in that search.

So far, no mention of any positive effect of particular pole 
polarity.

-- 
Regards,

John Popelish


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Re: CSTerminator

[Steve Levine]

As far as I can tell this is the best deal on the T2 Zapper: 
http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/terminator_zapper.html

$115 and free shipping.

Steve
 evelyn evesnew...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
Regarding electromagnetic devices, I want to comment on a device I saw
linked to Dr. Bob Beck's website - a manufacturer of devices I beleive in
Canada.
For certain electromagnetic stimulation can help with biological issues
because we function on electromagnetic signals, especially from the nervous
system. However, one of the devices gave out an etremely strong magnetic
field (something like hundreds or thouisands of gauss.) This is dangerous.
Even the conservative OSHA limits are only a few gauss for short periods.

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:42 PM, BW jennelle8...@gmail.com wrote:

 Where can one get a Terminator?
 Thanks
 Bonnie
 On Aug 22, 2015 7:42 AM, Shirley Reed directcurren...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The Terminator is a wonderful device.  Fifteen years ago osteoarthritis
 was beginning to affect both of my hands rather badly.  After a few days of
 use, the extremely painful, red and very hot Heberden's nodes on the right
 index finger had lost all the redness and heat and most of the pain and
 tenderness.  The nodes remain to this day but are very small and have no
 tenderness.  If I forget to change batteries they will start getting tender
 again.  The first hour I used the T, the pain of a heel spur completely
 disappeared.  The spur is still there I think, but no pain at all.  Also,
 at that time a son had acne and it was all gone in three days.  I have a
 couple of T's because I loan them out occasionally.  It is possible that
 one man I loaned one to has avoided amputation of both legs because of its
 use.  His doc's told them they thought he had bone marrow dying in both
 legs.  Great pain and unable to walk .  In three days time on the T. his
 pain was
  over 50% gone.  A couple more days and no wheelchair, no crutches and
 shortly after that not even a cane.  No pain of course either.   He's in
 great shape now.  It can take away extreme fatigue in a hurry too.  I hope
 to never be without a T.  At nearly 75 yrs., I use it very regularly though
 not round the clock.   Dollar store batteries work just fine and at .50
 cents apeice, are a great bargain.  They are a little fat, but a small
 piece of tape keeps the top on well.   Best wishes, pj or dc


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Re: CSMason Jars Colloidal Silver

[Steve G]

Since canning season is upon us, why don't you make a stop at a grocery store 
and get a box of those plastic jar lids that are designed for Mason jars.  That 
is what I use all the time, and it's a lot more classy than parchment paper or 
saran wrap.
Steve
  From: JD jd_m...@gmx.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 3:11 PM
 Subject: CSMason Jars  Colloidal Silver
   
Is it OK to store Colloidal Silver in mason jars with those metal lids 
that are included?  The flat part of the lid looks like it has a 
plasticy type of coating over the metal.  If not, can you put parchment 
paper between the jar and lid?  Or, saran wrap?

Thanks


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Re: CScolds and flu

[Steve G]

I have read the research abstract that this article refers to several times.   
The author's claim of a 4,250% increase in fetal death or stillbirth when going 
from a 1 vaccine year to a 2 vaccine year in NOT supported by the abstract.
The incidents DID rise though.  6.8 incidents per million pregnant women with a 
1 vaccine season gave way to     77.8 incidents per million in a 2 vaccine 
season.  The following season was 12.6 incidents per million.
Now, a 4,250% increase from either of the 1 vaccine seasons would have yielded 
either 289 incidents or 535 incidents.   In actuality, you have an increase of 
either 617% or 1,144% depending on which year you are comparing to the 2 
vaccine year.
There is such a huge difference in these two years, that it is hard to take it 
very seriously.  This is because it is not very consistent and it suggests 
other factors may have been present.
It would be helpful to see some statistics showing the number of fetal deaths 
and stillbirths for pregnant women who were not vaccinated for the flu.  It is 
reasonable to believe that this data is available, even though it hasn't been 
culled and reported.
Only then can this data be put in perspective.    Why?  Well, depends on how 
many fetal deaths and stillbirths afflict non-vaccinated pregnant women doesn't 
it?   I do not know what the numbers are, but what if the numbers are similar 
to the vaccinated numbers?  This, more than anything else, would suggest that 
it isn't the vaccines causing the trouble.  

What if the numbers are much lower?  Well then this would suggest that 
vaccines ARE indeed causing incidents.  But the real meat of the issue is 'How 
much of a difference are vaccines making?'   We do not know the answer to this 
question nor whether vaccines are causing more incidents or reducing total 
incidents not until we know the data on non-vaccinated pregnant women.  
THIS data would be fascinating and of true value.
I'm not making an argument either For nor Against vaccines.  We don't have 
enough data to do anything except for point out that Dave Mihalovic, ND, is not 
very good at math.



  From: Joe Huard joe_hu...@hotmail.com
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 8:55 PM
 Subject: CScolds and flu
   
Flu vaccines are useless.
http://www.wakingtimes.com/2015/03/05/flu-vaccines-are-useless-the-real-flu-strikes-just-twice-every-10-years/

Joe

-- Noam Chomsky said, “The general population doesn’t even know what’s 
happening, and it doesn’t even know that it doesn’t know.”


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Re: CSherpes

[Steve G]

I was diagnosed with genital herpes years ago.  I forget whether that's type 1 
or type 2.  But regardless, my doctor put me on acyclovir 800mg right after 
diagnosis.  It is a viral suppressant.  I have been taking it daily with very 
few misses and have not had any additional outbreaks since.
I have also treated with CS and also micro-electricity.  I have no clue whether 
these treatments have eradicated the virus or not since I have no outbreaks but 
am still on the acyclovir.  I have not been retested for the virus so I have no 
confirmation either way.
I know this isn't too helpful, other than the suppressant has been effective.  
Would I have another episode if I stopped taking it?  I don't know.  Perhaps I 
should discuss this with my doc next time I haunt him.
STeve


  From: Lynn lynngreene...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:40 PM
 Subject: CSherpes
   
Has anyone cured herpes type 1/ and/ or type 2 with silver? Thanks

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From: Ode Coyote silverpuppy1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSAC voltage
Date: March 4, 2015 at 3:12:44 AM PST
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com

25 volts at 50/60 HZ does not impart enough velocity to the ions to get them 
far enough away from the electrodes to not be sucked back on when the polarity 
changes.
To use that SWAP frequency requires around 1000 volts.
Minimum at 25 volts would be around 1 minute between polarity shifts and that 
will be very slow as it takes around 20 seconds out of a cycle for the 
electrochemistry to unwind and reverse. 
 3 minutes goes at about the same rate as DC
Anything over a few seconds is very difficult using analog timing circuits, 
longer is harder and less reliable/accurate.
That why I finally went digital.  A computer can count infinite milliseconds 
effortlessly and get it right every time with a 5 minute interval.
Ode

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote:

Has anyone used a low, ie 25 volts, AC power source for a CS generator?
Any ideas about posslble success if using? Seems to me it would compare
with the swapping DC method. Thanks.
Opa

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Re: CSAd-hominen attacks.

[Steve G]

I haven't been following this thread but this does bring up an interesting 
point.   I have read in sources outside of the alternative health community 
that silver is an antimicrobial agent effective at extremely dilute levels.  I 
don't recall exactly, but my memory is that it was in ppb (parts per billion) 
that was being referenced, possibly in wikipedia or maybe webmd sure wish I 
could recall.   

What I have read ad nauseum is many accounts of ways in which to beef up ppm my 
amazing levels.
So - in general we know that CS at levels between 5ppm and 20ppm are effective. 
  But has anyone looked into what level of strength CS has to be at a minimum 
to have a beneficial and observable effect?
I'm curious.  Perhaps we have just assumed that 0.5ppm wouldn't be helpful, but 
haven't tested.  It's just a thought.  Not wanting to take sides either way, 
but am just thinking that this might be worth exploring.
Cheers!
And now to go back on my word!   Suggesting he was fooling himself wasn't a big 
attack, but on the other hand it was a little bit naughty!  A little bit.  Not 
enough to warrant anything more than a casual glance.   That's my take.  I 
think we all need to relax and not take ourselves too seriously.  Eventually we 
will all be pushing up daisies anyway and who wants to spend their spare time 
worrying about who may have gotten the upper hand or won or lost a difference 
of opinion?
Steve
  From: Debra  David alch...@kern.com.au
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 1:04 AM
 Subject: CSAd-hominen attacks.
   
When I asked for an example of my 'ad-hominen, unkind' attacks the best Malcolm 
could provide was this...

You Strongly suggested that Tony was a fool, using his own attempt to provide 
the information that in using CS on animals, the animals are not usually 
susceptible to the placebo effect. in doing so you used a straw man argument, 
thus employing both the kill the messenger and the ad
hominem rhetorical ploys combined. QED.


Please look at what I really said to Tony...

(But first,this is what Tony said regarding the surprise news that his CS is 
only 0.54ppm)...

Now the important thing is that this stuff works as I said. It's not just 
placebo, I COULD FOOL MYSELF, but I doubt that one can fool cats, dogs and 
chickens all the time... Tony

My answer was this (and ONLY this)...

Well I'm sorry to say it Tony but yes you probably are fooling yourself. Half 
a ppm isn't going to do anything in my opinion


That didnt seem too harsh to me. I could have said more. I could have said No 
you can't fool the animals but you could be fooling yourself that the health of 
the animals is due to the CS, or something like that, but I figured my brief 
response was adequate.

But the sad thing here is not really Malcolms overblown sophistry. Its the fact 
that a regular poster on here, handing out advice to other members and newbies, 
is claiming that half a ppm (probably dissolved in gallons of water) is 
performing great things on himself, cats, dogs and chickens. But no-one but me 
questions it! Instead, I'm accused of being a (whatever Malcolm meant) for 
pointing it out!


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RE: CSImportant question about the new Super Bug 2015 CRE

[Steve G]

FWIW a 24 flu is usually food poisoning.  Can be something we did or something done to our food at a restaurant or friends place etc.  of course I know nothing about your specifics, but we all get blindsided occasionally by this sort of thing.Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPadAt Feb 21, 2015, 3:19:15 PM, Phil Morrison<'philmorrison...@gmail.com'> wrote:Super Bug is an overstatement, since most victims werealready weakened with compromised immune systems mostly due anti-biotics killing both good and bad bacteria in the gut. OTOH there is a short list of silver resistant bacteria, and theSuper Bug strain happens to be one of them.  Whether thisspecific bug is silver resistant only time will tell. We know the buzzards back at the Lizzard Lab are workingovertime developing silver resistant bugs, so we have toforeshadow our futures accordingly.I've been on silver for many years and still get hit about everyfive years.   Recently, a 24 hour bug hit and laid me low.  CS just wasn't up to dealing with this bug.  Fortunately, the SotaSilver Pulser kicked in, along with plenty of minerals and water,to hold the bug to under 48 hours.   I was lucky, because thisbug hit like a freight train.I've peg a web site below which shows electron microscope photos of CS nanoparticles killing HIV viruses (Figure 3).  The researchers
 determined that it was bare silver attackingspecific sites on the virus, which is good for our team.  Virusescause cancer.   So, get em early. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1190212/


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Re: CSHelp

[Steve Levine]

Curezone: http://www.curezone.org/forums/f.asp?f=97 
 Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
Go to Yahoo Groups and do a search. If there are other CS
groups you will be able to find them..
Hope this helps
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 This is my 3rd request for help and gave some questions three times. Two 
 people tacked a question of their own onto mine and one person asked me some 
 questions which I answer. No one has answered any of my questions. Either no 
 one knows anything, they are two bashful or no one cares. Either way I am 
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Re: CSHelp

[Steve G]

This sounds like a straightforward question, but really this is difficult to 
answer.
There are other CS groups around of course, but I don't believe there is an 
easy way to determine all the groups in the population.  

Also, whether this group is the best or some other group depends on very 
subjective perceptions. Perhaps you could mention what you like the best and 
the least about this particular group and then ask if anyone knows of a group 
that is better for the things you like and also has less of the attributes you 
do not like.
 To be honest, I hang around with this group because I like it here.  I am not 
particularly motivated to search out another group because this one satisfies 
my needs.   However, you might find certain things about it annoying, so you 
may wish to keep on looking.
Does this help?
Steve
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 Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 10:12 PM
 Subject: CSHelp
   
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answer. No one has answered any of my questions. Either no one knows anything, 
they are two bashful or no one cares. Either way I am very disappointed. So 
someone answer me this. Is there a better colloidal silver making list around 
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Re: CSTreatment for Eye Floaters

[Steve G]

I've had floaters since I was a kid.  It's never been a big deal to me since I 
only notice them when I pay attention to them or think about it, which isn't 
often.  Sounds like your situation is much more intrusive than mine.
Sadly, I have never found any suggestion anywhere to suggest that a 
non-surgical solution would ever do a thing.
Best of luck.
Steve
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 Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 7:44 PM
 Subject: CSTreatment for Eye Floaters
   
Has anyone had any success in treating floater in the eye?  My left eye is like 
looking through spiderwebs I'm not going to do surgery or anything invasive..  
I'm sure someone may have come across a effective treatment. 

thanks

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Re: CSTransverse Myelitis

[Steve G]

What a wonderful story!   This is very encouraging and a great testimonial to 
what one can accomplish through ionic/colloidal silver.
Although it is a good idea to let the doctors know that he took the silver, I 
am pretty sure they would pooh-pooh this treatment and consider it nothing more 
than a coincidence that the best recovery they have ever seen happened to 
someone who was taking a non-drug that was not prescribed by a real doctor.
If that happens, don't let it get you down.
Steve
  From: Chris Davies ch...@qualityliposomalc.com
 To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 1:24 PM
 Subject: CSTransverse Myelitis
   
Hi All, I wanted to to post to let people know that it seems probable that 
ionic silver was able to to substantially help someone with transverse 
myelitis. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transverse_myelitis ) The person is a 
53 year old male who had a routine flu vaccination about two weeks ago. Several 
days after the shot they began complaining of general malaise and odd twitching 
in their arms and body. This progressed over the course of two weeks and 
resulted in loss of bladder and bowel control and just about complete paralysis 
of his legs. The diagnosis of transverse myelitis was confirmed by MRI of his 
spine. They also took some spinal fluid to check for a specific infection, 
however, I have not heard any results as of yet. He was admitted to hospital 
and was given cortical steroids and an IV drip of vitamin C (unknown the 
amount). He remained in the hospital for about two days in this condition until 
I found out about his illness. My understanding is that vitamin C is not 
generally administered in hospitals, however, this was a high end Mexican 
hospital and they apparently have more latitude than in the US or Canada. That 
evening around 11pm I dropped off 1.5 litres of ionic silver, 20ppm made using 
the SilverLungs machine and a very pure form of water called 'injectable water' 
that is used to prepare IV's. I instructed his wife to give him a cup of ionic 
silver ever hour for a few hours in a row. The following morning around 6am he 
was able to stand on his own and over the next day rapidly progressed. He had 
consumed about 1 litre overnight. The doctors told him that he was extremely 
lucky to recover as he did. They also stated that they had never seen a 
recovery such as this in their many (20+?) years of practice. Their expectation 
is that he will be able to walk again on his own. The doctors have not yet been 
told that he was taking ionic silver. I am encouraging them to share this 
information with their doctors as it may help others. He is being discharged 
today, about 36 hours after he began taking ionic silver. He continues to take 
it at an unknown dose, but probably 2 to 3 cups per day. I've given them 
another 4 litres and they have expressed a strong interest in making their own. 
This is of course is a single case and certainly doesn't equal proof that it 
works, however, given his very rapid turn around after beginning ionic silver 
(prior to which he was on a continuous downhill slope) and the doctors 
amazement in is recovery I feel there is a reasonable chance that the ionic 
silver helped. Transverse myelitis is a horrible disease and I hope this story 
can help others. As a disclaimer, I have no financial interest in the company 
that makes the SilverLungs product. However, I did want to include the product 
name for the sake of completeness. I'd expect that any decent source of ionic 
silver would be sufficient. Best regards,Chris

  

Re: CSGood News From Sierra Leone

[Steve G]

Interesting article but a couple of comments.  

1 - I'm pretty involved with investments, investing news services and financial 
sites.  I have never heard of zerohedge.com and it strikes me that they might 
not be very representative of Wall street.

2 - Early on they talk about why churches have used silver chalices..  
Well, I spent many many years of my life as a Catholic (but not currently) and 
I have seen numerous chalices in my travels.  Every single one has been gold in 
color, either gold plated, or something similar.  I have NEVER seen a silver 
chalice anywhere.  So, it strikes me that the article may not be very well 
researched.   Too bad too since with such a grievous error, how can I trust 
anything else they have to say?
Steve (the wet blanket guy)


  From: Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:39 PM
 Subject: CSGood News From Sierra Leone
   

Wall Street Likes Silver

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-13/silver-versus-ebola-medical-revolution

  

Re: CS A little off topic ... but relevant

[Steve G]

I guess this IS a little off topic since as far as I could tell it has nothing 
to do with CS or even other alternative medicine therapies.
I didn't know what OTOH meant, so I had to search that.  I never heard of 
Unified Theory, so I looked that up.  As far as I can tell Unified Theory, or 
is it Grand Unified Theory, is the theory of everything.  The site seems to 
have enough material to keep someone who is sufficiently interested and 
motivated busy for months.
Since all of this is extremely complex and is hypothetical theory, how is it 
that someone can KNOW what the 'correct' unified theory is?   This puzzles me.  
 I could understand if it is someone's opinion that this is the correct one.  
But to lay claim it is THE correct theory would mean that the person has 
incontrovertible proof.
OTOH, it's all beyond me and I have no clue how any of this would be relevant 
to my life. Perhaps I'll delve into this from time to time.  Lots of topics to 
look at.
Steve


  From: Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 12:41 AM
 Subject: CS A little off topic ... but relevant
   

“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they 
wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure 
which has no relation to reality.”  Nikola Tesla
This old Nikola Tesla quote still holds true today, as modern scientists often 
forgo reality so long as the math can be made to work.   We see it everyday 
inphysics, medicine, economics, and even Unified Theory. 
OTOH the correct Unified Theory can't be totally suppressed.  Have some fun and 
check it out at  www.milesmathis.com 

  

CSunsubscibe

[Steve Orme]

is this where i go to unsubscibe?

Re: CSJim Humble

[Steve G]

Well, I thought the Religion route was innovative.  But if he is to be 
believed, and I have no reason to doubt his word, his church does not sell MMS. 
 He conducts training seminars. He sells his e-books.  But he truly seems to be 
on a mission to help as many as possible from illness by spreading the good 
word about MMSI and MMSII.  
It is my understanding that his church makes MMS available at clinics for free 
and that they are interested in helping people defeat illnesses.  I don't think 
has ever claimed that MMS is the only answer to the world's problems, but it 
certainly is what he's all about.  It's enough to work on without taking up 
more things.
He also is not trying to protect himself from the Feds by having a church.   He 
protects himself from the Feds by never again setting foot inside the US.  He 
has seen too many folks with non-FDA approaches to illness just plain disappear 
and doesn't want this to happen to himself.
I don't recall whether his archbishops are forbidden from selling MMS kits or 
not.  I kinda suspect this is the case, but I really don't know.  Seems like it 
would be forbidden in order to avoid harming the perception of MMS by a 
skeptical public.
Overall, I think Humble is a good guy.
One of the good things about MMS and MMSII is that all of the authoritative 
discussion seems pretty coherent and consistent, especially since it all 
eminates from one place.
With CS, it's totally different.  You have all kinds of people worldwide making 
many different claims.  There is a lot of conflicting info out there that makes 
it hard to get a handle on what is true and what isn't.  Plus people making 
claims that THEIR CS is better than anyone else's.
So it goes.  There is much to learn about CS as well as MMS and other 
alternative approaches.  

I just want something that helps.
Steve






  From: Sara Mandal-Joy sara...@valnet.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:46 PM
 Subject: CSJim Humble
   
I don't like his religion either - and I think he could do a whole lot 
for a whole lot if he chose to give the research data, the specifics...  
which he really hasn't done.    However, that being said, he HAS 
described the science of it.  And there are many bright minds out there 
who have verified what he has to say.  It is not bleach.  Simple 
chemistry will tell you that.  I seem to be highly sensitive to it, and 
never got over one drop at a  time - my herx reactions are intense, and 
that was all I could  tolerate.  I have put it on the back burner as  a 
must have first aid item, and in case of.  Some bright minds are 
saying that the combo of MMS and CS is the most efficient/effective way 
of treating ebola.    Does Humble's non-humble archbishopry make me 
want to barf?  Absolutely!!  But that does not mean MMS is worthless?  
No.  My inner guides and my reading/study have told me it is an 
important thing to have available.  I only have a little, just enough 
for personal use, but one doesn't need a lot of it.

I must say it really angers me  when anyone - like Jim Humble - makes 
their product THE answer to the world's problems.  Certain brands of CS 
do the same thing.  And it feeds the feds' reactions to such 
products.    BUT just because the feds say MMS is a fraud - as they say 
of CS, it doesn't mean it is so.  And it angers me when people take up 
that rhetoric, especially people who are benefitted by CS.

I will also say, in defense of Humble.  I think he's always had a 
non-humble attitude.  But his religiousity I think came as a way to 
protect his product from being made illegal and confiscated.  By 
declaring his company a church, and his distributors priests or 
ministers or whatever, and his product as a sacrament, he was trying to 
get around being completely shut down.  He wanted what he believes 
(therefore the church) is a miracle product to not be again confiscated 
by the feds.    Prety out of the box thinking.    I'm not sure how 
honest it is, although I think he has convinced himself it is a matter 
of faith and principle as much as a matter of science.  I'm not sure 
either how effective his defensive stance will be in the long run - in 
part because of his ego, and how his pompous attitude turns folks off.  
He's already defrocked and escommunicated one of his priests because 
he altered the teachings in some way from Humble's presentation.  What a 
drama.  Anyways, my 2 cents.  Sara


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Re: CSConundrum

[Steve G]

before anyone can attempt to explain this, they need to know what sort of 
container you stored each of these three solutions in.

Were they all in virtually identical containers?  Or were they somewhat 
different?  Did they each hold the same volume of fluid?

And, can anyone duplicate the results of this phenomenon?

After that, perhaps a hypothesis can be attempted.

Steve




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Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 7:02 AM
Subject: CSConundrum
 

I shone a laser through my distilled water and I got a distinct Tyndall effect, 
just the same as I get through my finished CS.  Can anyone explain this? If I 
shine it through tap water there is nothing...dee

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Re: CSConundrum

[Steve G]

Just to rule out the possibility that the canning jar may have had any 
involvement, try putting tap water in the same container used for the distilled 
and the CS.  If tap water and distilled water have different results when using 
identical containers then we have something very puzzling that needs 
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Re: CSThe Spanish Influenza Epidemic of 1918 was caused by vaccinations---E. McBean (Swine Flu Expose)

[Steve G]

Well, if you believe Eleanora McBean.  Her extremist assertions are 
questionable at best, and very unprofessional.  Read up on her on Wikipedia.   


But the cause of the 1918 flu epidemic is not really relevant to today. 


Ebola is a much more serious issue today.  A vaccine would be nice, but the 
window of opportunity to properly manage an outbreak is already past. 


We have relatively open borders between the US and countries that have the 
outbreak.   This can only result in disaster for the countries to which those 
who have been exposed to Ebola victims are fleeting.  


I'd bet good money that the two ladies in Texas who took care of the Liberian 
gentleman before he passed away from Ebola is just the tip of the iceberg.   
We'll see a few more from that hospital in the next week or so.   And from 
these people we'll have more yet.  We aren't quite yet at a flashpoint, but it 
is not far off.

Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea should all have serious travel restrictions 
in place NOW.   



Steve

PS - I had  to look up that James Ostrowski quote to put it in proper 
perspective.  Sounds like he really knows his stuff.





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To: Jane White willowtree...@gmail.com; Lori Weegens lweege...@aol.com; 
David Stanley MD david.stanle...@yahoo.com; Anne Garcia Garland 
a...@bellsouth.net; Andrew Garland garlandand...@hotmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 7:55 PM
Subject: CSThe Spanish Influenza Epidemic of 1918 was caused by 
vaccinations---E. McBean (Swine Flu Expose)
 



http://www.whale.to/vaccine/sf1.html



“Progressivism is a mindset that favors the use of aggressive government force 
to solve social problems.” James Ostrowski

Re: CSSpanish Flu - Epidemic of 1918

[Steve G]

My mother and my brother both got polio in the 1950's.  My brother died from it 
at ten years of age.  The rest of us (8 kids) were vaccinated as soon as the 
vaccines were available.  None of us suffered anything unusual as a result and 
all of us kids are still alive and mostly vigorously healthy.  So, we didn't 
suffer from the vaccines.


My only concern with vaccines is that they are made properly with no mercury.  


Because my household has CS available as well as MMS, I don't see any need for 
any of us to be vaccinated for anything.   Should Ebola raise its ugly head in 
my neck of the woods, we'll be pretty aggressive with the use of the 
alternative approaches we already know to be effective.  I'm hoping that they 
will be just as effective with Ebola as they are for other illnesses.


I think that 'Dr.' McBean's view of the 1918 epidemic is inaccurate and not 
supported by a scientific viewpoint.t


Steve




 From: Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:10 PM
Subject: CSSpanish Flu - Epidemic of 1918
 





WWI soldiers were given multiple vaccine shots causing Conglomerate Disease
 which means having lots of different diseases at the same time.

Some victims manifested typhoid-like symptoms, others diphtheria-like symptoms, 
shell shock covered postvaccinal encephalitis, and paralysis was actually 
polio.

There was 7x more disease in vaccinated soldiers than in unvaccinated civilians.

Germs, bacteria, viruses, or bacilli are the RESULT of disease, not the cause
of the disease.

People cannot contaminate their bodies with vaccines without causing disease.   
 


http://www.whale.to/vaccine/sf1.html

CSRe: Warburg and Cancer

[Steve G]

I share Phil's skepticism of Li's assertions.  I suspect that the blood vessel 
expansion is important to cancers to provide nutrients for growth, but doubt 
that oxygen is important to them.


Warburg got his 1931 Nobel prize for his discoveries that led to understanding 
the nature and mode of cellular respiration and enzymes.   He did not get it 
for his theories on cancer, although he was pretty interested in it.

As noted on the Nobelprize.org website, he found that cancer cells can live and 
develop even in the absence of oxygen.  

One of his theories was that cancer could be treated by use of oxygen therapy.  
However, research has shown that cancer can survive and prosper whether it is 
saturated with oxygen or is deprived of it. 


Dr. Andrew Weil has posted his own coherently written thoughts on this issue in 
March of this year.  You can see them here if you like - 
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA322213/Can-Oxygen-Cure-Cancer.html

Weil is one of those online alternative medicine type doctors that is busy 
pushing his own line of supplements etc.   For that reason, I do not jump on 
the bandwagon when he speaks as I've learned to be skeptical of folks when they 
stand to profit.  On the other hand, he seems to be open to alternatives and 
seems to be objective when discussing most health issues.

He concludes that oxygen therapy is not a useful treatment for cancer, which I 
suspect is true.  He also disparages the use of hydrogen peroxide as an 
alternative treatment, but relies upon the FDA for their take on it.   I DO 
agree that no study has proven that peroxide is an effective treatment.  
However, such studies cost a lot of money, and since no money is to be made by 
big companies, they haven't been done.

I believe that THIS is the exact sort of research that should be conducted by 
the government.  Find out whether it is useful or not using double-blind 
techniques and proving things one way or another instead of dismissing the 
whole notion out of hand due to the possibility that someone will ignore 
warnings and do something stupid.

What I'm VERY curious about is the assertion that CS transports oxygen.  I'm 
skeptical of all point-blank claims like this and I've never heard this one 
before.   


I can't help but wonder what is so special about CS that would enable it to be 
more effective at transporting oxygen than common tap water or distilled water. 
 Can anyone explain why this could be or would be so?

Steve



 


 From: Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 1:54 PM
Subject: CS7 Sept - OT - however very interesting
 







Hi Sandra,   William Li angiogenesis offering on Ted is basically flawed.

Li claims expansion of blood vessels in cancers is to provide additional oxygen
and nutrients.

We know from Otto Warburg Nobel Prize 1932 that cancer is caused by
oxygen deficiency and excess H+ ions.   Also, hyperbaric chambers use
oxygen environment to kill cancers.   IOWs oxygen kills cancer cells, not
nourish them.  

Li was flogging a number of drugs, during he course of his lecture, leading one
to suspect ulterior motives for this lecture. 

Interestingly, CS transports and activates oxygen. 

Re: CSRe: Warburg and Cancer

[Steve G]

Sadly, the explanation provided at the website is a bit vague, to put it nicely.

The antimicrobial nature of silver ions was identified as being due to the 
oligodynamic effect.  This was discovered in 1893 and not limited to silver.  
Ions of mercury, copper, iron, lead, gold and other metals also have shown this 
affect.  I'll pass on the ions of mercury, copper, lead and so on. Silver works 
just fine for me and has very little, if any, toxicity.

I don't think the mechanism by which metal ions are antimicrobial have been 
100% determined, but'Data from silver suggest that these ions denature 
enzymes of the target cell or organism by binding to reactive groups, resulting 
in their precipitation and inactivation.[2] Silver inactivates enzymes by 
reacting with the thiol groups to form silver sulfides. Silver also reacts with 
the amino-, carboxyl-, phosphate-, and imidazole-groups and diminish the 
activities of lactate dehydrogenase and glutathione peroxidase.'
-Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligodynamic_effect
 No mention of transporting oxygen.

I looked up 'Exetec' but all I found was that Exetec is some sort of IT support 
consultant group.

I'm suspicious of Marantech.  Took some doing but I did find that it had been 
incorporated in either 1999 or 2005 in Providence, RI.  Annual revenue of 
Marantech appears to be about $140,000.  Employees total - 2.  And Marantech 
seems to have disappeared from the map.  Further looking revealed the following:


Tetrasilver - Not!
What ever happened to the Aids cure Tetrasilver Tetroxide (US Patent 
#5,676,977) which you commented about a few years ago. The company marantech is 
gone from the net and all discussion has stopped. 
Response from Dr. Pierone
Although the company appears to have vanished there was a small study reported 
last year from Kinshasa on Tetrasilver Tetroxide (Imusil). Here is the link. 
Actually not all the news was bad. Of the 3 subjects treated, one had a false 
positive HIV test with a negative HIV viral load at baseline this subject 
appears to have done quite well after treatment. The other 2 subjects who 
actually were infected with HIV did not so well with a consistent increase in 
viral load following Imusil. 


My advice is to be skeptical until there is some verifiable events that are 
reproducible regardless who performs the testing.  None of this stuff where the 
only people testing the stuff are the ones selling it.

Steve





 From: Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 5:44 PM
Subject: CSRe: Warburg and Cancer
 




The web site, noted below, explains exactly how Nano Silver and colloidal
silver transport and activate oxygen to kill abnormal body cells.

This explanation has been replicated in other studies. 



http://www.silentcures.com/The-AIDS-Cure.html

Re: CSEvery kind of silver kills bacteria.

[Steve G]

I fully agree with the idea you only want to use the purest silver you can get 
to make your own CS.  As far as nickel poisoning, you'd only get that if the 
jewelry or sterling silver had nickel content.  


I've never given much thought to the proposition that jewelry might contain 
some nickel.  Most of my experience has been with silver-plated musical 
instruments, which are usually brass, except for flutes which are usually 
nickel.  Nobody in their right mind would ever use a silver plated anything to 
make colloidal silver, and hopefully never use sterling either. 


The problem is that the results are too unpredictable... or perhaps predictable 
as I think they'd be singing the blues in short order.

Steve




 From: alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:37 AM
Subject: CSEvery kind of silver kills bacteria.
 



 From: Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com
 Date: 10 August 2014 7:25:43 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSEvery kind of silver kills bacteria.


 Whoa, I agree with your general gist that basically all silver is  
 good, and even think it agrees with my earlier post that 'nano' is  
 used mostly as marketing hype.  I agree with you on  1  2, but  
 your points 2  3 scare me a bit:

  - Never use jewelry or sterling silver of any kind, as you could  
 end up with nickel poisoning. You always want the purest silver  
 available when making CS, to avoid any unwanted contaminants.


Agreed, but I was talking about 'effectiveness' not safety.


  -  There is endless documentation that shows colloidal silver is  
 effective, as it was even used by the pharmaceutical companies a  
 hundred years ago. And there are thousands of years of history  
 showing silver being effective. In my opinion, mentioning  
 published, 'official' clinical trials or trying to differentiate CS  
 from nanosilver only adds confusion. (And as you said, CS has  
 nanosilver).

Sure there is endless documentation, just like there are endless  
websites claiming that CS is a miracle cure but, quite rightly, they  
are not worth a damn in medical eyes. They are not evidence. They are  
not based on clinical trials. They are not to be trusted, and  
ultimately thats why they are not accepted by the FDA. I wish there  
was 'proof' but there isn't.

Forget about 'thousands of years of use', about 'blue bloods', about  
'silver dollars in milk cans' and all that BS. The ONLY credible  
argument for taking CS is that the lab tests give it some scientific  
support, and thousands of anecdotes SUGGEST it might be effective. We  
have NOTHING more concrete than that yet.

David



 I was just worried that some people might get the wrong idea about  
 your comments. I agree with the intend of your message completely.

 Victor


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Re: CSCannabis Oil Without THC or With Doesn't Matter

[Steve G]

Any Cannabis center should have this stuff.




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Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 7:37 AM
Subject: CSCannabis Oil Without THC or With Doesn't Matter
 

Hi,

I am looking for cannabis oil - good grade/pharmaceutical - no additives 
- no added preservatives - for someone with a medical condition. Any 
leads, thoughts, ideas - resources? Google has failed me. Thanks, Joy

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Re: CSGum infection

[Steve G]

I had an abcessed tooth a year or so ago.  I foolishly avoided seeing the 
dentist, so, it gradually got worse and worse.  I ended up using my 'godzilla' 
device which cost me $5 in parts and 5 minutes of my time to make to send 6 
volts of direct current through the infected tissue for about 5 minutes.  Then 
I reversed polarity and ran it for another 5 minutes.  


That put an end to the infection. 


6 volts is extremely safe as long as you do not send it through an open sore.  
There is a yahoo group called 'microelectricitygermkiller' that explores using 
low level direct current to fight infections, colds, flu, insect bites and even 
snake bites.

The way this works is that the current sends trillions of electrons through the 
affected tissue.  The human bady, it's tissues and cells is very resilient to 
electric current if it's not excessive.  Germs and viruses are very sensitive 
to electricity and are quickly killed when low levels of current are sent 
through them.  When it comes to bee stings, snake venom and similar things, the 
current changes the proteins to something not so antagonistic.  


I've had good success with bee stings and also even poison ivy.
I'd tell you how to put all together, but just check out the yahoo group, or 
search youtube videos and you'll find it.

Best of luck.

Steve




 From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 6:19 PM
Subject: CSGum infection
 


Greeting's everyone,

I have been battling a pain free gum infection. It did not start high up on the 
gum but is climbing and destroying my gum tissue. I have tried 
everything..taking CS all during the day...3% hydrogen peroxide..DMSO mixed 
with CS...Oregano oil..I push on the pocket and drain it several times a day 
and the color is light green. It is grossing me out. I have no insurance and 
until I lost my job and year and half ago I kept up on dental visits and 
cleanings. I am 62 and am wondering if age plays into it.
I have even injected the peroxide into the infected area...then switched to the 
cs with DMSO..it's not getting worse but it is not going away. 
Going on the third week now...will it stop eventually?
Any input would be appreciated,

Thanks Deb 

Re: CSFwd: Poison ivy/oak/sumac

[Steve G]

I have great success running 6V of direct current through my poison ivy 
encounters for about 5 minutes.  You can do this with a lantern battery, a 
couple wires and a couple of sponges.  You can look it up on youtube using the 
words 'godzilla germ killer.'  It's pretty simple and very safe.  You will feel 
nothing.

The theory is that in 5 minutes trillions of electrons have traveled through 
your skin or gut from one sponge to the other and that the electrons will alter 
the make-up of the proteins involved.   This also works with snake bites, bee 
bites and maybe a few other bites as well.

It worked great for me, and you don't have to believe in it for it to work.

Best of luck

Steve







 From: Bruce Anderson bruce...@btes.tv
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:02 PM
Subject: CSFwd: Poison ivy/oak/sumac
 






 Original Message  
Subject: Poison ivy/oak/sumac 
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 22:56:40 -0400 
From: Bruce Anderson bruce...@btes.tv 
Reply-To: bruce...@btes.tv 
To: silverl...@eskimo.com 


Need help with remedies.  Subject has had this for several weeks. 
Predneslone ? and salve from doctor does not help.  What 's best? 




 
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RE: CS Silver Deficiency

[Steve Levine]

https://www.silverinstitute.org/site/silver-in-technology/silver-in-medicine/bandages/

 bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: 

=
... what/who is The Silver Institute in Washington, DC 


  _  

From: Phil Morrison [mailto:philmorrison...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS Silver Deficiency




The Silver Institute in Washington, DC reports that the medical use of
silver has doubled every year for the past six years. 


More and more people are using silver to stay well and lower their health
care costs.




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RE: CS Silver Deficiency

[Steve Levine]

https://www.silverinstitute.org/site/about-us/

 bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: 

=
... what/who is The Silver Institute in Washington, DC 


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From: Phil Morrison [mailto:philmorrison...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS Silver Deficiency




The Silver Institute in Washington, DC reports that the medical use of
silver has doubled every year for the past six years. 


More and more people are using silver to stay well and lower their health
care costs.




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Re: CSTonsil stones

[Steve G]

I used to get those 'stones' from time to time.  I wouldn't notice them until 
they got big enough that I could feel them while swallowing or that they'd rub 
against and irritate the tissues that the tonsils normally touch.  


I found that if I had a long enough swab I could loosen them and remove them.  
White hard lumps.  If you squeezed them they would have this horrific smell 
like a sewer.

Two possible things are going on.  Food particles can get caught in there and 
build up.  But more likely, it is bacteria being killed off (by the tonsils?) 
and accumulating due to the crater effect.

If it's from bacteria, I think that a regular hit of CS would be a good 
preventative, but once you have the lump in there, I doubt that CS or any other 
thing you ingest would dissolve them.

Sometimes I have sneezed them out.  I have on occasion, taken something more 
sharp than a q-tip to dislodge these lumps, but I do NOT recommend that.  
Perhaps a tongue depressor would work, but you really have to watch out for the 
gag reflex.

I hope some of this helps.

Steve





 From: Diana Clock dianacl...@ymail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 11:29 AM
Subject: CSTonsil stones
 

Does anyone know if silver works for tonsil stones?
Or the rife dp100 for them?
Every since we battled lyme, etc. our son has craters in his tonsilsand the 
stones are showing up more frequently.
Thank you for any ideas

Diana

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Re: CSzapper burns

[Steve Levine]

I have three different zappers from the same ebay seller 
http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=item=350968740981pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0_osacat=0hash=item51b75dfc75_ssn=mstrong1_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xzappe_nkw=zapper_sacat=0_from=R40
They all work well and are a good economical choice. I don't have the 3 
frequency one that you have but I'm sure it works great. I also have a 
Terminator zapper that I use for convenience sake but if I'm feeling really bad 
I go for the handheld copper pipes with the 15hz or 30khz zapper as they do get 
the job done a little faster.

Steve
 Nancy Winiecki hemna...@yahoo.com wrote: 

=
I use a zapper called  
Z4eX EXTREME 3 Frequency Hulda Clark Zapperit has very nice straps that go 
around the wrists, and I also got copper pipe electrodes for it but haven't 
used them much.    I don't have any illnesses to speak of to make claims for 
healing, but that may be a testimony in itself.   Last time I caught a cold 
from the grandkids, I never stopped up or had a runny nose but did get a slight 
cough after several days, and did need to use a little CS in my nose to open my 
sinuses at that point, which it did quickly, but I used to get terrible sinus 
infections with colds, and that did not happen.

 What I do use it for is my insomnia, frequently by putting on the electrodes 
when I am not able to sleep: it will help, though not always.   What I like is 
that I don't have to wet the electrodes and they don't tingle or burn.   I also 
have a Sota Silver Pulser which did cause redness and irritation, even burning 
sensations, and needed water.   I have to say I stopped using it when I got the 
Z4eX from ebay.  

Has anyone else tried this zapper?


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Re: CSzapper burns

[Steve Levine]

This will explain how zappers work and what issues they can help with:

About Bacteria, Fungi, Molds, Parasites, Viruses and Zappers

This discussion is about how a zapper is capable of killing pathogens without 
harming human tissue. 

Pathogens
Pathogens are bacteria, fungi, parasites and viruses that attack the body, or 
cause harm when they use people as hosts. Most microscopic organisms are either 
indifferent to human health or beneficial, such as some important bacteria 
required in our intestinal tract for digestion of some proteins and plant 
material. 

At a very basic level a virus is protein projectile that injects its DNA into a 
cell and takes over its host's life processes, replicates itself with protein 
casing many-fold, ruptures the cell membrane, and ejects new viruses ready to 
repeat the cycle within the same body or infect another. 

Bacteria, amoeboids, plasmodia and primitive worms are more complex than 
viruses and have more complicated life cycles and strategies to survive in 
environments where they are not welcome. And some of these strategies equip 
pathogens to ward of the body's defenses, herbal preparations and fight and 
adapt to pharmaceutical drugs—a very recent development in the history of life. 

Biochemistry

Micro-organisms must feed, reproduce, respond to stimuli, respire, grow, obtain 
nutrition, eliminate wastes and in some instances move. All these processes are 
essentially similar in organisms regardless of their size or complexity. 

Whatever a particular life process is, respiration, digestion or responding to 
the environment, it relies in the close relationship of chemistry and 
electricity. All biological process have a chemical component and all 
biochemical reactions are essentially electrical in nature. Molecules are 
clumps of electrically bonded atoms with specific structures which have 
specific functions. Their ability to react within the biology of an organism 
depends upon sites on them with positive or negative charges which are 
available for connecting with other molecules with opposite charges. 

Biological functions and all biological structures rely on electrical bonding 
to keep everything in place. It doesn't matter what the chemicals are, what the 
process is or what structure is involved, they all come down in the end to 
chemical bonding which is electrical.

Electrical fields

A feature of this characteristic of life is that as a result of it's life 
processes and it's chemistry, every organism has an electric field which has a 
signature frequency. This electromagnetic field increases in frequency with the 
complexity of the organism. Individual organisms may vary within a narrow band 
of frequencies specific to a species. For example, mold species have 
frequencies between 77 KHz and 300 KHz and bacteria and viruses have 
frequencies between 280 KHZ and 450KHZ. The more complex the organism the 
higher the frequency of its electric field.

Now, as we all know, if you hang on to a live wire from domestic electrical 
supply, it is momentarily very unpleasant and rapidly fatal. It is fatal 
because our vital body chemistry is effectively jammed and we die. The same 
principle is involved in the use of a zapper to kill pathogens except that the 
electrical charge is so minute for our complex, high vibration physical system 
it has no harmful effect on us. But the charge is so disruptive for lower forms 
of life they are ruptured and killed in the first seven minute burst. The 
subsequent seven minute session deals to microorganisms released by dead 
parasites and the third zapper session kills all the viruses released by the 
last kill.

The outstanding benefits of killing pathogens in this way are
•all their structures and life processes are compromised by electricity, 
•they cannot develop immunity, 
•there are no harmful or permanent side effects and 
•all pathogens on tissue surfaces are killed harmlessly, whether you are 
aware of their presence or not.

What Zappers are less effective for

Because zapping is an electrical event, pathways are required for the current 
to flow. Where there are no pathways, there may be some stray electricity, but 
mostly it cannot flow. Where it doesn't flow it doesn't work.  Therefore 
zapping may not kill organisms in abscesses, the inner ear complex, the 
eyeball, stomach, bladder or intestinal tract*. This is helpful in relation to 
the intestinal tract because most biota in the gut is beneficial and essential 
for digestion.  But it does mean that infections in the other locations must be 
treated by zapping over a number of days in order to kill all the organisms as 
they contact with body membranes.

*Infections of the intestinal tract would respond more readily by being treated 
with colloidal silver, garlic, Echinacea, and/or professionally prepared herbal 
remedies if avoiding antibiotics is important.


Steve

 ASL aslra...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
May I ask

Re: CSUrgent

[Steve G]

Dear A. Reid Harvey,

I'm so sorry to hear that you are stranded in London and those awful foreignors 
stole your wallet and phone out of your acquaintance's car.

Now tell me A. Reid Harvey, was this really an acquaintance, or was it a drug 
dealer or hooker?

I'd be happy to help you out with a 'soft' loan, but I don't know what that is, 
and since all I have is 'hard' cash, I don't think I can help.

But you know, Americans are in high demand in foreign countries, and I'm sure 
that you could 'earn' quite a bit of money there by performing 'personal 
services' for the local businessmen.  After all, sometimes we have to depend 
upon the kindness of strangers.  


Steve

PS - while in London don't forget to take in the sights.  I'd love to go there 
myself to see the Eiffel Tower and watch the antics of those crazy kangaroos!

-S



 From: A. Reid Harvey reidhar...@hotmail.com
To: A. Reid Harvey reidhar...@hotmail.com 
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 9:27 AM
Subject: CSUrgent
 


 
I am writing to inform you that i am presently in London,i am stranded here 
because i happened to get my wallet and phone stolen out of an acquaintances 
car and my wallet held my money and other valuable things.I will like you to 
assist me with a soft loan urgently with the sum of $3000 to sort-out my hotel 
bills and get myself back home.
I will appreciate whatever you can afford, i'll pay you back as soon as i 
return.I am worried with this situation .I need urgent assistance and any help 
from you will be welcomed.

Reid
 



Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 01:57:30 -0500
Subject: Urgent...
From: reidhar...@hotmail.com
To: reidhar...@hotmail.com

Re: CSAcne

[Steve Levine]

Try cleaning the skin  3x/day with 10ppm colloidal silver soaked on a cotton 
ball. It should help a lot. It may take a few weeks to a month to completely 
clear it up.

Steve
 RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
Vitamin B5 is supposedly to help with acne - along with vitamin C and Zinc. 
Find out if allergic to dairy - or other allergic foods. 


On Jan 21, 2014, at 10:50 PM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:

My granddaughter is suffering with acne on her face. Does anyone on this list 
know what can be done to help this condition?
CJ


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Re: CSOT: Tinnitus

[Steve Levine]

Take a look at low level laser therapy or cold laser for tinnitus treatment: 
http://www.healinglightseminars.com/laser-research-library/tinnitus-2/

Steve
 Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: 

=
Thanks Neville. Lena
On Jan 6, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Neville wrote:

 I am led to believe tinnitus is caused by damage to inner ear hairs and their 
 relationship with cells contained within the inner ear, once those hairs are 
 damaged there's no turning back.  I don't personally believe tinnitus can be 
 fixed, regardless of what I have read others say about 'cures', I've had it 
 for some time.  Lot's of things supposed to help, 'white noise' etc, but in 
 reality one can't be listening to white noise 24/7, just gotta learn to live 
 with it, or have a diesel engine idling next to you 24/7 to drown out the 
 ringing in the ear/s g.
 
 N.
 
 From: drumr...@stny.rr.com
 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 11:43:50 -0500
 To: lymestrateg...@yahoogroups.com; silver-list@eskimo.com; 
 lyme_r...@yahoogroups.com; r...@yahoogroups.com;drl...@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: CSOT: Tinnitus
 
 Hi Everyone!
 
 A dear friend who's a musician with CFIDS, is having trouble with tinnitus. I 
 KNOW I've filed several posts that cover this over the last year, but haven't 
 yet followed through with my New Year's resolution to put them in order (a 
 time-consuming task) and I'd love to help her now if possible.
 
 I vaguely remember the mention of Apple Cider Vinegar, Swedish Bitters, and 
 some vit. supplements, but don't know the 'how'  and 'how much' of these. 
 
 If anyone out there has some info, I'd be so grateful.  I know how wretched 
 this condition can be. She'll be calling later to tell me more specific 
 details, but I thought if I could offer her any promising leads when she 
 calls it might cheer her up.
 
 Happy New Year Everyone!
 Be well,
 Léna



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Re: CSLung Parasites

[Steve G]

I had never heard of such a thing so I looked it up!  I wish you the best of 
luck.  

Since this is a parasite rather than a bacteria or virus I wouldn't think that 
CS would have much impact.  Perhaps you would need to start a regimen of 
diatomaceous earth.   

What is your doctor prescribing for this?  I'm curious what sort of testing 
they did to determine this.   Sounds like something that  is rare enough that 
most doctors wouldn't catch it.   Most people  don't eat freshwater crabs or 
crayfish (outside of Louisiana!) so I'm thinking that most people aren't likely 
candidates.

I for one, am NOT going to start eating such things.  E!

Again, best of luck and check out DE

Steve





 From: Heather W heatherwy...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 9:27 PM
Subject: CSLung Parasites
 


Anyone have any success treating lung parasites with CS? I have been nebulizing 
when I get a chest cold, but I just found out I have lung parasites and was 
wondering what schedule and dose would be needed. Any suggestions? Thanks in 
advance!

I will also be starting on a regimen of Black Walnut and Clove. 

RE: CSbioresonance

[Steve]

Paula and others, before you spend a bunch of bucks on bioresonance, you
ought to do some careful research to determine for yourselves if it is
quackery or something really helpful.  For example, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioresonance and
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400638/Bioresonance-Therapy-Better-Diagnostic
-Method.html and http://www.youtube.com/channel/HCzHUfB47ZDA8 and
http://www.bioresonancehealing.com/bioresonance-therapy/ .  Do a search of
the internet for Bioresonance Therapy to find many more sites.  

 

Personally, I don't know if this alleged therapy is worthwhile or worthless,
but my scientific training leads me to think the ones who primarily benefit
are the ones selling the therapy.

 

Steve Y

 

 I recently had bioresonance testing. Has anyone else been tested with it?
Anyone have an opinion about it? I got the testing because my hair suddenly
started to fall out. Lots of it. The MD's think it is related to thyroid but
haven't been able to fix it in over 4 months. Any way the lady that did it
told me a lot of information. One of the things was that she said she
detected the bacterium for Lyme and some fellow travelers. She also said my
body does not like electro-pollution, and pesticides. She suggested I listen
to theta binaral beats for emotional trauma. I did listen to that last night
on utube and it was quite relaxing. I do actually feel and energy change or
more full of energy. Any thoughts on any of this are welcome. Thanks a lot
for reading this. 
 Paula

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Re: CSbioresonance

[Steve G]

If it works the way you want, very cool.  However, I'm a skeptic by nature and 
the bioresonance lady is likely telling ALL customers that their bodies don't 
like 'electro-pollution' and pesticides.  Personally, I think it is the rare 
person who is so sensitive to such things that it has an observable effect on 
them.  


Having said that, your hair IS falling out for some reason.  I suspect this 
practitioner is just guessing at what may be causing it. 


I have gone to sleep at night many times listening to binaural sounds to 
encourage the experience (real or apparent) of astral traveling.    I find it 
soothing as well, but it hasn't done anything noticeable for me, other than 
helping me sleep, which is never bad.

I encourage you to do research on this, looking for both passionate support for 
it as well as passionate criticism.   I would urge you to NEVER use the 
quackwatch.com site as a relevant source for anything.  So the passionate 
criticism has to come from some other source.

After reading the positives and the negatives give it your best shot and decide 
for yourself.   There's a lot of weird stuff out there with no merit, waiting 
for the sincere and gullible.  But some of the weird stuff out there is REAL.

Best of luck,

Steve




 From: Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 10:11 AM
Subject: CSbioresonance
 


I recently had bioresonance testing. Has anyone else been tested with it? 
Anyone have an opinion about it? I got the testing because my hair suddenly 
started to fall out. Lots of it. The MD's think it is related to thyroid but 
haven't been able to fix it in over 4 months. Any way the lady that did it told 
me a lot of information. One of the things was that she said she detected the 
bacterium for Lyme and some fellow travelers. She also said my body does not 
like electro-pollution, and pesticides. She suggested I listen to theta binaral 
beats for emotional trauma. I did listen to that last night on utube and it was 
quite relaxing. I do actually feel and energy change or more full of energy. 
Any thoughts on any of this are welcome. Thanks a lot for reading this. 
Paula


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RE: CShelp with diode

[Steve]

Joe,

 

Either diode will work fine.  Or, you can use a LM334Z constant current
regulator.  The LM334 is much cheaper and more plentiful, and only requires
a single resistor to set the current.  I buy mine from Jameco
(www.jameco.com http://www.jameco.com/ ), part number 23739.  Download the
data sheet (free) to see how it works.  A 75 ohm resistor will give you
about 1 mA. 

 

Steve Y.

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On Behalf Of Joe Huard
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 2:27 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CShelp with diode

 

Yes; you're right!
Thanks for the correction.
Still, no one answered my question. Is a Maximum Limiting Voltage of 1.7 V
good enough, or do I need to search for a diode that goes to 5 volts?

There are only 2 current limiting diodes at 1mA, and the Max. Limiting
Voltage is only 1.7 V. 
http://ca.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Discrete-Semiconductors/Diodes-Rectifier
s/Current-Regulator-Diodes/_/N-ax1ml?P=1yzrlz3Z1z0rzzo 
Do I need to get at least 5 Volts? 

Joe

On 01/09/2013 3:35 PM, asif nathekar wrote:

Im sure it was  1ma per square INCH

 

I actually use 0.2/0.1 ma per square inch for much better and easier
results

 

It takes longer but its worth it... High likelihood of having Higher Ionic
content.

 

 

 

RE: CShelp with diode

[Steve]

Joe,

 

Asif's advice for the Lm334Z is correct for precision applications.  But for
making CS/EIS, typically where you make your brew is going to be at a fairly
constant temperature.  And even if the current does vary a few percent, it
won't noticeably affect the quality of your product.  So I don't see the
need to add temperature compensation.

Steve

 

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On Behalf Of asif nathekar
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 4:46 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CShelp with diode

 

Please consider this an endorsement for the lm334z chip

It's very well behaved but remember to use it with temp compensation ( the
addition of two diodes and another resister ) if possible ...otherwise use
with one resister ... At least you should get started... Refinements can
come later

Sent from my iPhone


On 1 Sep 2013, at 22:26, Steve youngs...@digis.net wrote:

Joe,

 

Either diode will work fine.  Or, you can use a LM334Z constant current
regulator.  The LM334 is much cheaper and more plentiful, and only requires
a single resistor to set the current.  I buy mine from Jameco
(www.jameco.com http://www.jameco.com/ ), part number 23739.  Download the
data sheet (free) to see how it works.  A 75 ohm resistor will give you
about 1 mA. 

 

Steve Y.


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On Behalf Of Joe Huard
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 2:27 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CShelp with diode

 

Still, no one answered my question. Is a Maximum Limiting Voltage of 1.7 V
good enough, or do I need to search for a diode that goes to 5 volts?

There are only 2 current limiting diodes at 1mA, and the Max. Limiting
Voltage is only 1.7 V. 


Joe

 

Re: CSinquiry

[Steve G]

I bought some 99.9% pure silver wire last year from an ebay seller.   I had to 
do a fair amount of research in order to make sure it really was pure silver 
and NOT sterling silver which would NEVER do.  Also needed to make sure that 
the wire was a fairly thick gauge, as this will yield superior results.

Steve




 From: BOBBIE TALLENT bearskinn...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 1:50 PM
Subject: CSinquiry
 


hi;
i'm bob, and i'm new to CS.  would like to try it, though.  i have all the 
wherewithall but the wire.  could anyone please tell me where i can buy the 
finesilver wire at reasonable prices?
thank you so much.

bob

Re: CSRE: OIL OF WINTERGREEN FOR ARTHRITIS

[Steve G]

I took oil of garlic three times a day for a week.  Didn't do a thing for my 
arthritis, but my wife left me and has never been back.


My bad, I couldn't resist!

Steve



 From: melly tita_...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:28 AM
Subject: CSRE: OIL OF WINTERGREEN FOR ARTHRITIS
 


 
In another yahoogroup, someone
wrote that applying oil of wintergreen, three times a day, cured his
arthritis.  Hasn’t returned since.  It took him 3 months to get rid of it.
Another member took three years
of daily use of oil of wintergreen, but it went away completely and never
returned.
 
Melly
 
From:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:37 PM
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2013 #228

Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children

[Steve G]

I don't think that any study conducted by a homoeopathist would be very 
credible considering that these are people who believe that homeopathy is a 
real medical treatment.

Are there any real studies that lead us to such findings?

Steve



 From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:13 PM
Subject: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated  
children
 

Vaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children:

http://worldtruth.tv/vaccinated-children-have-up-to-500-more-disease-than-unvaccinated-children/

Marshall


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RE: CSCS Generator - DIY vs Commercial

[Steve]

Lynne,

 

This site, which sells commercial CS generators, has a good explanation of
constant voltage generators (which you have) verses constant current
generators.  http://www.silvergen.com/technica.htm 

--Steve

 

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On Behalf Of Lynne Toll
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 5:34 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS Generator - DIY vs Commercial

 

hi steve,

why do you need a current regulator and resister?  what do they do?  my
generator is just the batteries, wires, clips.  also you say you brew for 24
hours?  i am very new to this list and will be doing a lot more research
into the archives, but i get about 13ppm in about an hour.  

thanks!

lynne

 

 

On Jul 17, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Steve wrote:





Gidon and others:

I have no experience with the generator you are asking about, but I do have
many years of engineering experience with my own designs.  Reading their
advertising hype, the $240 Micro-Particle Colloidal Silver Generator looks
like to would produce a good product.  But you can achieve the same results
as claimed for it for a small fraction of the cost.  Here's how: 

1) Buy an LM334Z constant current regulator.  A good source is Jameco.com,
part number LM334Z, cost 79 cents.  The Jameco data sheet which you can
download shows how to use it.  If you don't understand the data sheet, ask
an electronics person to help you.

2) Add one resistor to the LM334Z to set the constant current to be about
0.2 milliamps.   The resistor will be 330 ohms, at a quarter or an eighth
watt.  Radio Shack part 271-1315 or 271-012 will do the job.  

3) Use two 9 volt batteries (total of 18 volts) connected in series with
your constant current regulator and your silver electrodes.  You can make
connections to your batteries and electrodes with small alligator clips and
insulated wire - available at Radio Shack.  Again, an electronics friend can
help you.  

4) Meticulously clean a wide mouthed quart canning jar and rinse it out a
couple times with pure steam distilled water.  Then fill it with a quart of
the pure steam distilled water.

5) Immerse the two silver electrodes into the water, spacing them about two
inches apart, and ensure only the silver wire contacts the water.  About 24
hours later, remove the electrodes and use your product.  

Your product that will be at least as good as that produced by the
Micro-Particle Colloidal Silver Generator, or any other commercial unit.
Because the constant current is extremely low, you will produce very tiny
colloids along with ionic silver solution.  And because production is very
slow (about 24 hours), no stirring or air bubbling or thermal agitation is
needed.  Nature does the job for you through natural movement within the
solution (called Brownian Motion).

Cheers,
Steve




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On Behalf Of Gidon Kenar
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS Generator

I'm thinking of buying this Micro-Particle Colloidal Silver Generator from
here http://thesilveredge.com/aboutmicro.shtml
Does anybody has experience with this machine?

Regards
Gidon 




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RE: CSCS Generator - DIY vs Commercial

[Steve]

Gidon and others:

I have no experience with the generator you are asking about, but I do have
many years of engineering experience with my own designs.  Reading their
advertising hype, the $240 Micro-Particle Colloidal Silver Generator looks
like to would produce a good product.  But you can achieve the same results
as claimed for it for a small fraction of the cost.  Here's how: 

1) Buy an LM334Z constant current regulator.  A good source is Jameco.com,
part number LM334Z, cost 79 cents.  The Jameco data sheet which you can
download shows how to use it.  If you don't understand the data sheet, ask
an electronics person to help you.

2) Add one resistor to the LM334Z to set the constant current to be about
0.2 milliamps.   The resistor will be 330 ohms, at a quarter or an eighth
watt.  Radio Shack part 271-1315 or 271-012 will do the job.  

3) Use two 9 volt batteries (total of 18 volts) connected in series with
your constant current regulator and your silver electrodes.  You can make
connections to your batteries and electrodes with small alligator clips and
insulated wire - available at Radio Shack.  Again, an electronics friend can
help you.  

4) Meticulously clean a wide mouthed quart canning jar and rinse it out a
couple times with pure steam distilled water.  Then fill it with a quart of
the pure steam distilled water.

5) Immerse the two silver electrodes into the water, spacing them about two
inches apart, and ensure only the silver wire contacts the water.  About 24
hours later, remove the electrodes and use your product.  

Your product that will be at least as good as that produced by the
Micro-Particle Colloidal Silver Generator, or any other commercial unit.
Because the constant current is extremely low, you will produce very tiny
colloids along with ionic silver solution.  And because production is very
slow (about 24 hours), no stirring or air bubbling or thermal agitation is
needed.  Nature does the job for you through natural movement within the
solution (called Brownian Motion).

Cheers,
Steve




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On Behalf Of Gidon Kenar
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS Generator

I'm thinking of buying this Micro-Particle Colloidal Silver Generator from
here http://thesilveredge.com/aboutmicro.shtml
Does anybody has experience with this machine?

Regards
Gidon 




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Re: CSTooth infection

[Steve G]

I've had success dealing with infections in a fractured tooth, but CS wasn't 
what I used.  I think it is too hard to get the CS to reach deep down in there. 
  Instead I used a 'godzilla' device as described in the yahoo group 
'microelectricity_germkiller.'   

Basically, you get a 6V battery and run 6V using wires and sponges or paper 
towels through the affected tooth for 5 or 10 minutes or so.   By doing this 
you are bombarding the infection with trillions of electrons.  Harmless level 
of electricity to humans but it destroys germs and viruses.   I cured my 
painful infected tooth in one or two treatments.  My wife cured her gum 
infection by doing the same sort of thing.

Great stuff!  Cheap!  I like it.

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From: Heather W heatherwy...@gmail.com
Subject: CSTooth infection
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 12:47 PM

I just got back from the dentist. He did an xray on my mercury amalgam filling 
to see what it would cost to take it out. He said because of the expanding and 
contracting of the filling I now have a crack down the tooth and int ok the 
root. He said it is infected and could start bothering me really soon, or not 
for a while. But it WILL end up being a problem. I am wondering if anyone has 
had success in treating a tooth infection of this magnitude with CS? And if so, 
what techniques did you use? Thank you in advance for the advice!

Heather

CSRE: colloidal gold

[Steve]

James,

 

Please share on the list how you make colloidal gold.

Thanks,

Steve

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On Behalf Of James McDonald
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:57 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSelling CS products

 

I put a couple of drops of CS into my wifes plant water and it seems that
the plants do well and have had no problems. I have seen the IS/CS sell for
anywhere from $15.00 to $45.00 a 4 oz bottle. Thats too much! I make my own
and the cost of DW and the 5 cents of silver that end up in 20 PPM are the
only costs now. Of course all the equipment to make mine, you can just use a
CLD diode and silver wire and mason jars and a timer. I have a magnetic
stirrer/heater, beakers, fitted lids, multimeters, thermometers, pipetts, a
lot more than you need just to make IS/CS. I also make CG(Colloidal Gold),
and experiment with different stabilizers and electrolytes. So the end cost
of charging (I only charge for the bottle) zero for the IS/CS. I might have
to if I end up making gallons of the stuff per week. I have charges $1.00
for refills to keep up in DW and put some money away for new silver wires.

 

 

Re: CShiv testimonial - CS did not work for me.

[Steve G]

This is puzzling to me in that I've never heard of Aids being caused anywhere 
by benzene exposure.  

--- On Fri, 2/22/13, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CShiv testimonial - CS did not work for me.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, February 22, 2013, 11:52 PM

How then do you account for transmission of the disease from blood?

Dan

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
 On 2/22/2013 12:00 PM, bob Larson wrote:

 ...i read/followed the MMS scene for a couple years since it's onset.  i
 bought enough bulk powder to make lots of little bottles, and used it with 
 without CS experinenting  on my hepC.
 the stuff is vile, and for most there comes a time when it is too repulsive
 to take down.
 i read many HIV/AIDS failures and zero successes in local groups.  all the
 stories of MMS, zappers, beck protocol, Ag4O4,rife,... etc in africa and
 other places seem to have much better luck than here in the USA.  go figger.

 That is exactly what I would expect if my reading on it is correct.  AIDs in
 Africa is caused by parasites, which MMS kills allowing recovery,  most in
 the IS is from benzene exposure, in which CS, Zapper and MMS will do nothing
 for.  In both cases it appears the the HIV virus is not a cause of AIDS but
 rather an indicator that the immune system is deficient for whatever reason.
 From what I have read virtually 100% of the people in the US have the virus,
 but only those with AIDS have a count high enough to not be ignored.

 HIV counts are a good way to monitor the situation, but going after the HIV
 is only going after the monitor, not the cause. It is like having a fire
 making a lot of smoke, and ignoring the fire, and only trying to dissipate
 the smoke.  The smoke is an indicator, not the cause.

 I could be wrong on this, but from all I have read over the years that is
 the conclusion I have drawn as it seems to be the only hypothesis that fits
 all the data.

 Marshall


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Re: CSNebulizer information needed

[Steve G]

Neti pots need to be used with care, which just means carefully washing it 
before using.  Casual use has resulted in brain infections occasionally, with 
final results.

Having said that, I started using CS in my CPAP machine about a week ago, and 
everyone around me has been getting terrible colds, but not me!

I only seem to be able to only get 4 - 5 hours of sleep each night, so I think 
this is greatly enhancing my health.

Steve

Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:


A friend with a bad cold (?) wants to use a combination of
CS and normal saline in her nebulizer (or neti pot) so the CS won't
hurt.
I'm over my head here.  I just nebulize with CS straight and cough and
cold disappear.
Thanks for any experience!
Judy Down Maine



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Re: CSSilver and Extreme Dry mouth

[Steve G]

The cause of dry mouth should be investigated.  There are a number of causes 
for such a condition.  Could be related to medications you might be taking, 
maybe even diet.  A suspicious candidate is Sjogrens Syndrome, which is an 
auto-immune disorder.

My wife has this syndrome and it's no fun.  As a result she does not produce 
enough saliva,  and her tear ducts don't produce enough tears, so she's very 
sensitive to wind, fans and so on, and has to take eyedrops a couple times a 
day.   The deficient saliva glands pose a risk to dental health, not to mention 
the discomfort.

Have you any reason to suspect auto -immune disorders?

Something that helps is LDN therapy.  There is an excellent Yahoo group 
centered on LDN, it's uses, and the diseases which can be helped with it.  Most 
people in that group have MS, but plenty of other folks there too.

Best of luck.

--- On Fri, 1/25/13, JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: CSSilver and Extreme Dry mouth
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 25, 2013, 11:52 PM

Hi,
Any suggestions for using CS or any other treatment for extreme dry mouth?
Tried MMS and a slight dry mouth has turned into extreme dry mouth --pain, and 
only being able to eat soft foods. Stopped MMS. I have done the godzilla thanks 
to suggestion from this site

 I have tried oil pulling, clay, tooth soap, no tooth paste, baking 
soda, peroxide. I have MCS so I am sensitive to regular mouth washes and
 toothpaste.

 I would appreciate any suggestion you might have.

 Thanks, Sandy

Re: CSyellow CS, also cayenne

[Steve G]

As far as cayenne goes.   get a glass of warm water, as warm as you can get 
it, add a tablespoon of honey to it and about 1/4 teaspoon of the cayenne 
pepper.  One can gradually increase the dose of the cayenne pepper until they 
get to a teaspoon, but start very low and see how much you can get down.   This 
will be an intense experience and the honey makes it much more palatable.

As far as a yellow tint to the EIS, it's not unusual.  Some of my batches are 
crystal clear and some batches have a tint.   I suspect it has something to do 
with whether I remember to rinse the jar with distilled water before starting 
another batch.  Still usable and the tint will be more obvious as the ppm goes 
higher.

Steve

--- On Fri, 1/11/13, Ken  Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Ken  Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSyellow CS, also cayenne
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 11, 2013, 4:01 PM

Hey guys,I bought some colloidal silver at my local healthfood store, and it is 
yellow.  Is it still useful?  I need to use it for some mild bronchitis my wife 
has, and for me (my lungs tingle a little).  The brand is Source Naturals 
Wellness Colloidal Silver (30ppm).

Also, I heard that cayenne pepper helps by breaking up mucous.  Any tips on how 
to administer that or your experience?
-Ken

Re: CSCalculate amount of grams in a 10ppm 45ml dose please?

[Steve G]

I don't know the answer off the top of my head, but at 10 parts per million, 
the answer is not going to be in grams.   You'd have to have gallons of the 
stuff before you'd get to a gram.

Steve

--- On Sat, 1/5/13, Alex Flex aflex...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Alex Flex aflex...@gmail.com
Subject: CSCalculate amount of grams in a 10ppm 45ml dose please?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 2:01 PM

Hello community,

Can somebody kindly help me calculate the equivalent of silver grams in a 45ml 
dose?  Please let me know how you did that math.
The liquid would be colloidal silver at 10ppm.

Thanks
Alex


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CSRe: CSRe: CSblending versus juicing: my 2¢

[Steve G]

I'm just curious, Lena.  How do you KNOW there was a loss of nutrients?   Seems 
like to accurately assess such a thing would require some sophisticated 
equipment capable of determining nutrients before and after juicing.

I imagine that technically it is impossible to only remove pulp without losing 
some of the good stuff, so I can easily believe your assertion.  But couldn't 
one just juice more of whatever it is from which you want to derive nutrients?

I'm not a juicer nor a blender, so I have no bias and no particular interest 
other than curiosity.
Steve

--- On Fri, 1/4/13, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com
Subject: CSRe: CSblending versus juicing: my 2¢
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 4, 2013, 7:29 PM

I've retired my Champion juicer! Even with feeding the pulp through several 
times, I know there was loss of nutrients by that method. Unable to afford a 
Vitamix, I'm making smoothies and juices with my Nutribullet (not to be 
confused with less powerful MagicBullet) and have increased my organic 
raw-veggie/fruit intake to a much higher level. 
The convenience of this helped compliance. Compliance is a factor to be 
considered. The Champion was such a pain to clean that it languished on my 
counter, unused, a lot. The Nutribullet gets used several times a day. Even 
some of my Vitamix friends prefer the Nutribullet for easy use. No, I don't 
have any commercial, vested interest in this product and I don't know how 
durable it will be, long-term, but it's performed well for almost 8 months.
Be well,Léna 
On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Paul wrote:
I do one of each every day :). 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

Apologies if this is too off topic or covered before.

Is there any consensus in the blender versus juicing debate, wrt which one (a) 
damages nutrients less and (b) which results in the most absorb-able output?

I read lots of claims both ways but I wonder if there is any real evidence 
supporting any of the claims? 

It seems logical to me that both do about the same amount of damage to the 
food, even the expensive juicers like a Norwalk, no?

-- 
Alan Jones

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Re: CSRe: Polio

[Steve G]

in relatively recent years, it has been found that people who survived polio 
infections when they were young became subject to a recurrence of it much later 
in life.  I am not sure whether this is presented as an actual infection, or 
with merely an intensified weakening of the affected body part.  One must take 
care to consider all possibilities before arriving at a firm conviction.  
Personally, I doubt that the smallpox vaccine would be implicated with polio 
issues, but I'd be open to persuation.

Steve

Harold har...@telus.net wrote:

My Aunt was three years old when she got polio in 1910.She survived,but with a 
leg deformity and sterile.She lived to a very ripe old age with a recurrence 
of polio  in her 70s.I never knew if she had been given the Small-pox 
vaccine.Would not be surprised  though.My grandparents were homesteading in 
Nebraska with a native tribe adjoining,Otoe,if I remember right.An awful lot 
of years since I heard the story,

Harold

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Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 6:53 PM
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com 
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2012 #540

Re: CSzapper burns graphite vinyl material

[Steve G]

I googled 'graphite cloth' and this is one of the links I brought up.  
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10918|16458|309345id=16304

Is that the kind of thing you're looking for?

Steve


--- On Sun, 12/30/12, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

From: PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
Subject: CSzapper burns  graphite vinyl material
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, December 30, 2012, 9:33 AM

Thanks to everyone who responded to my email on zapper burns.  I eventually 
remembered I had some graphite gloves that I used as electrodes and started 
using them and have not had another burn. 

Now I'm wondering if anyone knows where I can get some of the graphite-vinyl 
material.  I have hunted the internet and have not been able to find it.

Thanks... and Happy New Year.  I have greatly enjoyed all of your 
correspondence over the time I have been on this list.
PT

Re: CSBacking Soda

[Steve G]

Hi, 

You'd want to avoid the no-name brands that you can get at dollar stores and 
discount locations as some of those have aluminum in them.   Arm  Hammer, 
contrary to specious rumors and unfounded assumptions, is totally safe and has 
absolutely no aluminum content as tested and proven by my son, who is a 
chemist. Bob's Red Mill (sp?) is also safe but tends to be much more expensive, 
like most his products.

Steve

--- On Tue, 12/25/12, Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSBacking Soda
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 3:09 PM

Happy Holiday's All!!!
What's a good brand of baking soda to buy?
 
Thanks
Paul Steel

Re: CSOT - zappers

[Steve Levine]

Hi Alex, 

When I say good success I am referring to colds/flu as that is mostly what I 
have used mine for. It also seems to keep candida at bay which I can feel flare 
up when my feet start itching. Usually caused by indulging in the carbs/junk 
food too much.

Steve
 Alex Flex aflex...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
Hello Steve,

What do you call good success have you been able to sucessfully treat 
any disease yourself with this zapper?

Thanks

On 12/24/2012 09:25 PM, Steve Levine wrote:
 I have had good success with this zapper 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Z4eX-EXTREME-3-Frequency-Hulda-Clark-Zapper-/350629620091?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0var=hash=item51a327697b
  great quality, and the price is very reasonable.

 Steve
  Alex Flexaflex...@gmail.com  wrote:


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Re: CSOT - zappers

[Steve Levine]

I have had good success with this zapper 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Z4eX-EXTREME-3-Frequency-Hulda-Clark-Zapper-/350629620091?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0var=hash=item51a327697b
 great quality, and the price is very reasonable.

Steve
 Alex Flex aflex...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
Hey guys,

I have an VIH condition, I would certainly would like to try the zapper 
from the Bob Beck protocol. Could anybody please point me to a source to 
adquire one?

Alex


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Re: CSOT - zappers

[Steve Levine]

 The 15hz and 2500hz are said to penetrate the body more deeply than the 
original 30 khz Hulda Clark frequency. I have gotten good results with the all 
of the zapper frequencies though.

Steve 
 Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
I've only ever used 30KHz zappers.  There must be some rationale for the
other frequencies though.

Dan

On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 4:20 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I just got a 3 frequency zapper (15Hz, 2.5KHz and 30KHz) and there is no
 printed material that came with it on choosing the best frequency.  All my
 books are in storage.  Can someone help me out?  I zap 7 minutes and rest
 20 minutes for 3 cycles, I've read but I don't know if I do each cycle with
 the same frequency or if I go from one frequency to the next.  Does anyone
 know how to proceed?
 Thanks.
 Merry Christmas.
 PT



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