[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Divorce Records

2014-04-14 Thread IslandRoutes
I have a little experience with this for San Francisco. Yes, Catholics did get divorced prior to 1900. I have a French relative who was Roman Catholic. She came to SF in 1880, married and had a kid, and then the guy deserted her. I was able to find record of the divorce based on

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Divorce Records

2014-04-15 Thread IslandRoutes
I mistyped above. The Divorce record I found was in the Daily Alta which is also at the California Digital Newspaper Collection website and covers years 1849-1891. Another source for California newspapers is the Library of Congress Chronicling America newspaper collection. Note they have

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name on baptismal record?

2014-04-24 Thread IslandRoutes
I am back to work on my Azorean lines filling in some gaps. I found this record--a new child for my ancestors, but I can't read the child's name. I believe it starts with a P and the fourth letter is a q, so maybe it's Pulqueria or something similar? Some thought the third letter looks more

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name on baptismal record?

2014-04-24 Thread IslandRoutes
Thank you for the quick response, Doug! Pulqueria it is! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Graciosa Records CCA

2014-05-24 Thread IslandRoutes
I hope it's true that Ribeira Grande will be added soon. Although I've enjoyed working in Achada's records the last year, I now need Maia and Fenais da Vera Cruz to continue my research. I worked in both extensively 10-15 years ago, but have not been back in those records since arthritis

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Graciosa unusual first names

2014-05-27 Thread IslandRoutes
Eliseu, That is an interesting list of names. I am familiar with a few of these. I used to think it was the Portuguese Hawaiians who came up with the strange name variations (Flamana and Zulumina, for instance). That was until I really got into the Azorean records. The longer I research,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Paleography: The Long S

2014-05-27 Thread IslandRoutes
It was called a Festschrift, wasn't it? I believe in German it comes off more as a large B, but means double S. It's interesting to see their were so many rules surrounding the usage. And, we think our spelling rules were complicated! On Friday, May 23, 2014 9:39:52 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Pacheco, Mello, de Braga (Achada, Maia, Fenais da Vera Cruz) Wiki Tree

2014-05-27 Thread IslandRoutes
://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) *De:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *Em nome de *IslandRoutes *Enviada:* terça-feira, 27 de Maio de 2014 18:38 *Para:* azores@googlegroups.com *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] My Pacheco, Mello, de Braga (Achada, Maia, Fenais da Vera Cruz

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Pacheco, Mello, de Braga (Achada, Maia, Fenais da Vera Cruz) Wiki Tree

2014-05-27 Thread IslandRoutes
Eliseu, Yes, that is correct. Francisco was from Povocao and Josefa from Porto Formosa. I have the marriage, but I didn't have Francisco's birthdate. Thanks for that! Josefa de Mello is the beginning of my de Mello line in Maia. You are correct about this line connecting to Craig Cameron

[AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado/Pimentel, Achada--help with names on marriage record please

2014-05-27 Thread IslandRoutes
I have finally found the marriage record for my ancestors Antonio Furtado (aka Antonio Furtado Resendes) and Maria de Pimentel. They were married in 1755, Achada. Unfortunately, it's one of the worst records in this set. I can make out all the names except for Antonio's mother and Maria's

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Pacheco, Mello, de Braga (Achada, Maia, Fenais da Vera Cruz) Wiki Tree

2014-05-27 Thread IslandRoutes
) *De:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *Em nome de *IslandRoutes *Enviada:* terça-feira, 27 de Maio de 2014 21:20 *Para:* azores@googlegroups.com *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Pacheco, Mello, de Braga (Achada, Maia, Fenais da Vera Cruz) Wiki Tree

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado/Pimentel, Achada--help with names on marriage record please

2014-05-27 Thread IslandRoutes
Margaret, Excellent! I've got cousins popping out all over. Can I ask what source you have for Maria's parents? (Maybe you have a better copy of the marriage record than the one I linked to online). Also, which of their children to you connect to? I am a descendant of Antonia Pimentel who

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Pacheco, Mello, de Braga (Achada, Maia, Fenais da Vera Cruz) Wiki Tree

2014-05-28 Thread IslandRoutes
Eliseu, Yes, you are right about that.He was born there. He married Barbara Faria of Estrella, 1 Jun 1720, Achada. They had a couple children in Achada and a couple in Maia. I am descended from their daughter Maria de Braga, born 21 Oct 1725 in Maia. She married Pedro de Paiva who was

[AZORES-Genealogy] Are there traditions for where a couple is married (mid 1700s)?

2014-05-28 Thread IslandRoutes
I have a couple of couples in Achada where the bride and groom are from different villages (one is from Achada, the other is not). I've noticed there is a gap in records for Achada marriages right where my people might have married (1756-1757). As I am not having any luck in the surrounding

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado/Pimentel, Achada--help with names on marriage record please

2014-05-28 Thread IslandRoutes
be clearly seen. It also says the brides mother was already deceased. Hope this helps. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:17 PM, IslandRoutes island...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Margaret, Excellent! I've got cousins popping out all over. Can I ask what source you have for Maria's

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado/Pimentel, Achada--help with names on marriage record please

2014-05-28 Thread IslandRoutes
Jude, Looks like you and I are also related. Antonia de Pementel m. Joze Furtado was Maria de Resendes' (m. Manoel Homem Rebello) sister. My line stays in Achada. Here is my link on WikiTree for this line: http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Pimentel-Family-Tree-29 Melody On Wednesday, May

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Are there traditions for where a couple is married (mid 1700s)?

2014-05-28 Thread IslandRoutes
(the marriage and baptismal). My tree feels incomplete without them. On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:52:25 PM UTC-7, Pam Santos wrote: Normally it is the brides town, but not always. I have several where they married in the grooms home town. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:35 PM, IslandRoutes island

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Are there traditions for where a couple is married (mid 1700s)?

2014-05-29 Thread IslandRoutes
are you looking for? JR On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:35:25 PM UTC-4, IslandRoutes wrote: I have a couple of couples in Achada where the bride and groom are from different villages (one is from Achada, the other is not). I've noticed there is a gap in records for Achada marriages right

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado/Pimentel, Achada--help with names on marriage record please

2014-05-29 Thread IslandRoutes
Richard, As yet, I don't have those people in my database. However, I know I have seen the names and I am still working through my notes comparing them to my database. I have a Heronyma Pimentel, but she is daughter of Manoel Correa Symas and Agueda (aka Agada) Pimentel. She married Manoel

[AZORES-Genealogy] A very young bride and groom in Achada 1777

2014-05-30 Thread IslandRoutes
I am curious what others think of this marriage that I came across in Achada. The marriage took place in 1777. The couple is distantly related to me. What caught my eye was the years of baptismal. The groom was baptized in mille sette centos secenta e quarto annos = 1764. The bride in

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A very young bride and groom in Achada 1777

2014-05-30 Thread IslandRoutes
again. Mil sete centsos oitenta e sete, 1787. The records before and after are also 1787. He did not spell or write well. Judi Sent from my iPad On May 30, 2014, at 6:05 PM, IslandRoutes insearchofth...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I am curious what others think of this marriage that I

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Are there traditions for where a couple is married (mid 1700s)?

2014-05-30 Thread IslandRoutes
JR, Thanks for the link to the marriage record for Antonio Barbara. I am afraid that Anna de Mello m. Estevao Correa could be a dead end for the de Mello's. I still need to find her obito. I'm not holding out much hope that it will include information that I don't already have. On Friday,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado/Pimentel, Achada--help with names on marriage record please

2014-05-31 Thread IslandRoutes
Rick and others, I don't have the Braz de Costa Loureiro from Maia in my database. I do have Costa Loureiro's. This is a snippet of the line that I have from Maia: 1-Joao da Costa LOUREIRO-6820 b: 1642, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. d: 4 December 1721, Maia, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel

[AZORES-Genealogy] Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-02 Thread IslandRoutes
One of my ancestors is Miguel do Monte. Miguel was born ca 1690 possibly in Achadinha. He was married twice. First wife was Maria Furtada and the second Maria da Costa. He had several children by both of them. Most were born in Achada, though records point to his son, Miguel do Monte (my

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-03 Thread IslandRoutes
John, I think you might have the answers I need. Dan sent me the marriage record in Faial de Terra for Miguel do Monte who married Thereza Furtado. Is this the person who is the father of Joze Furtado who married Antonia Pimentel in Achada 20 may 1791? Is this the Miguel do Monte who married

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-03 Thread IslandRoutes
I do not have Ana do Monte, so this one is new for me (despite having numerous children for these people) On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:06:25 PM UTC-7, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: Hi! Do you have ANA DO MONTE married to Bento Pacheco Raposo, Maia 16.5.1774, as daughter of Miguel do Monte

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-03 Thread IslandRoutes
wife, Maria da Costa, born April 30, 1734 in Achada. If there is a second Miguel Monte, he may have married in Achadinha, where his father and grandparents are from. JR On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 5:16:15 PM UTC-4, IslandRoutes wrote: John, I think you might have the answers I need. Dan sent

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How to cut and paste a record from CCA page

2014-06-03 Thread IslandRoutes
One thing I recommend is when you are on the screen to save it, rename the file to something that is meaningful to you. The CCA website names files in a long format that isn't really useful for when you go back to sort things out. On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 10:14:10 AM UTC-7, E Sharp wrote:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-03 Thread IslandRoutes
%2Fbiblioteca_digital%2FSMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750%2FSMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750_item1%2FP21.htmlsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGXg6XbMwUvi4WKoqvT6RzjdK1ANA On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 9:01:14 PM UTC-4, IslandRoutes wrote: I do not have Ana do Monte, so this one is new for me (despite having numerous children

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-04 Thread IslandRoutes
I worked in Achadinha last night. I got nothing in the Baptismals 1714-1718 or so. So, I switched to the marriages. Here is the record that John mentioned. The marriage for the sister of Maria do Monte:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-04 Thread IslandRoutes
Eliseu/Doug, this information would be very interesting to see. We don't really know where Monte originates. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:39:56 AM UTC-7, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: Hi Dough! Do you have any more information on those MONTE you said left S. Miguel to settle in

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-05 Thread IslandRoutes
I just wanted to update on the research I did last night. I started look at the Obitos for Achada in the 1730s (going backward). I haven't found any Monte's as yet. Then, I reviewed the marriage work I've already done. I noted every marriage from 1747-1777. What strikes me is despite all

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-05 Thread IslandRoutes
/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-O-1683-1738/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-O-1683-1738_item1/P87.html On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 6:34:08 PM UTC-7, IslandRoutes wrote: John, Okay, looks like I need to put my current marriage project aside to see if I can figure out the do Monte's. I'm just

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-06 Thread IslandRoutes
Aaron, I'm trying to read Maria da Costa's marriage record that you posted the link for. Is her father's name Francisco Rabeiro? Thank you for posting these records. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-06 Thread IslandRoutes
John, I have most of this information, but not all. I did not have Miguel do Monte's parents nor some of the children's marriages. But, I never got to read the records myself, so that's what I'm doing now. I have other ancestors to fill in lines on, so it's no big deal (and good practice

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-07 Thread IslandRoutes
John, Eliseu, and Aaron, Last night I worked in the baptismals for 1751-1770. I started at 1756 as I lucked out by clicking on the exact page that had a do Monte on it. I then went forward a few years. This is what I observed: There were two distinct way the records were noted. One

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-07 Thread IslandRoutes
To all, Thanks! But, Dan should get part of the credit. He was the one who noticed that I had married off Miguel do Monte, the son, to his step mother (oops!)I know that I am my own cousin a couple of times, but this would be just a little too close. LOL JR-that gap in the Achada

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Are there traditions for where a couple is married (mid 1700s)?

2014-06-07 Thread IslandRoutes
I think I might have an extra clue in this mystery. Estevao's brother, Mathias Correa, married Maria de Mello. I'm seeing her in records as being from Fenais da Luz. So perhaps Estevao's wife, Anna de Mello, are sisters. If I find Mathias and Maria's marriage record, maybe it will lead me

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-08 Thread IslandRoutes
JR, Awesome! I am amazed at how the Achada people seemed to spread out all over the island. When I researched my lines in Maia, it seemed families were more stationery (marrying amongst the people in Maia) I also agree, from your earlier notes, that Miguel do Monte, the father, is son of

[AZORES-Genealogy] Manoel Rebello of Achada, 2nd marriage found 1729, Nordestinho

2014-06-08 Thread IslandRoutes
Is anyone else researching Manoel Rebello (son of Antao Rebello Teixeira and Margarida da Costa Carneiro and m. 17 Aug 1698, Achada to Maria Soares, dau of Manoel Soares and Barbara Furtado? Tonight, I was looking for someone else in Nordestinho when I came across a second marriage for Manoel

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA information (New Admin; Conference Sale; AncestryDNA)

2014-06-08 Thread IslandRoutes
Congratulations to Kalani! I know him from the Portuguese Hawaiian Genealogy Group on Facebook. On Friday, June 6, 2014 9:32:47 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: 1) The Azores DNA project on Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) has a new admin! His name is Kalani Mondoy and he has his lines from the Azores

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-09 Thread IslandRoutes
Aaron, Thanks for the information on Maria da Costa's family. I need to add this to be genealogy database. I believe I found two of Bertholomeu da Costa Furtado and Maria Furtado Rebelo's children last night in the baptismals for Acahda. This is in the set 1712-1733. The records are

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manoel Rebello of Achada, 2nd marriage found 1729, Nordestinho

2014-06-09 Thread IslandRoutes
Eliseu, I have 2 children for Antao and Margarida: Tomaz Costa Carneiro (m. Ana de Souza) and Manoel Rebello (aka Rebello Carneiro (m. Maria Soares). I am descendant from Manoel and Maria's son, Manoel. On Monday, June 9, 2014 4:49:54 PM UTC-7, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: I have Antão

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manoel Rebello of Achada, 2nd marriage found 1729, Nordestinho

2014-06-09 Thread IslandRoutes
was Tomaz Costa Carneiro. Thanks, Mel On Monday, June 9, 2014 6:41:48 PM UTC-7, IslandRoutes wrote: Eliseu, I have 2 children for Antao and Margarida: Tomaz Costa Carneiro (m. Ana de Souza) and Manoel Rebello (aka Rebello Carneiro (m. Maria Soares). I am descendant from Manoel and Maria's son

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manoel Rebello of Achada, 2nd marriage found 1729, Nordestinho

2014-06-10 Thread IslandRoutes
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[AZORES-Genealogy] What was the average life span for Azorean women in the 1700s?

2014-06-11 Thread IslandRoutes
I'm working through the Achada marriages in the mid to late 1700. As I've been taking notes on all of them, I've been stricken by something. A good majority of the mothers are deceased by the time their children marry. I have made any determination of ages. But, I suspect many didn't make

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manoel Rebello of Achada, 2nd marriage found 1729, Nordestinho

2014-06-11 Thread IslandRoutes
Eliseu, I didn't really have anything on him except the info. in RR and the 2nd marriage certificate giving his name as Manoel Rebello Carneiro. So, I went looking for the first marriage record (I thought I already had it, but I didn't). Here is what I found:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manoel Rebello of Achada, 2nd marriage found 1729, Nordestinho

2014-06-12 Thread IslandRoutes
Maybe it was a long day and the priest dipped into the wine a bit too much. :DI agree that it looks like they all got mixed up. This is the first time I've been marriage records this early. I haven't noted the godparents being listed in the group for the 1740-1750s. I guess the next

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-13 Thread IslandRoutes
Hello all, First, I want to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread. I have learned a lot about this family and gained some information that I did not have when I started. I have completed my research in the Baptismals from 1712 to 1757. I describe earlier the last birth I found

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-14 Thread IslandRoutes
Aaron, Okay, now I remember looking at this record. I have it in my notes, but it hasn't gotten into my database yet. I think with all the Miguel do Monte records I've seen the last two weeks that my brain blanked. Thanks Mel On Saturday, June 14, 2014 12:06:05 AM UTC-7, Aaron Pereira wrote:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-14 Thread IslandRoutes
Margaret, I think you missed my post a couple of days ago. There was some confusion over whether there was one or two Miguel do Monte's in Achada. It turns out there were two, father and son, and both married women of the same name. The births from 1758 onward belong to the son and his wife.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Are there traditions for where a couple is married (mid 1700s)?

2014-06-15 Thread IslandRoutes
JR, I think I have a possibility for this family. I realized that Estevao Correa's brother, Matias, married Maria de Mello from Fenais da Luz. I have her parents names. I wondered if maybe the brothers married sisters. I went through Fenais da Luz's baptismal records and have found that

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manoel Rebello of Achada, 2nd marriage found 1729, Nordestinho

2014-06-15 Thread IslandRoutes
Eliseu, Do you happen to have Manoel Soares Rebello who married Margarida Pimentel in this line anywhere? I have his parents as Joze Soares and Maria Rabella. Manoel was 46 years old when he died 15 Mar 1781. Margarida connects to my tree through marriage. Manoel is record as Manoel

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-15 Thread IslandRoutes
Margaret, It was really confusing with all the similar names. What child does your husband descend from? The only child of Antonio Furtado de Resendes and Maria de Pimentel that I have married is my ancestors, Antonia Pimentel (m. Joze Furtado). I have these children: Maria, Barbara, Joze

[AZORES-Genealogy] Is anyone researching Antonio Miguel de Braga from Maia to Fall River, MA?

2014-06-15 Thread IslandRoutes
I am stuck on a genealogy problem until Maia records come online. I found Antonio Miguel de Braga in the Azorean passport records. His parents were given as M. de Braga and Ermelinda do Rozario. His wife was Maria da Gloria Rapoza, daughter of Jose Rapoza and Jacinta Roza de Braga. So far,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is anyone researching Antonio Miguel de Braga from Maia to Fall River, MA?

2014-06-16 Thread IslandRoutes
isn't very helpful. On Sunday, June 15, 2014 8:09:14 PM UTC-7, IslandRoutes wrote: I am stuck on a genealogy problem until Maia records come online. I found Antonio Miguel de Braga in the Azorean passport records. His parents were given as M. de Braga and Ermelinda do Rozario. His wife

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manoel Rebello of Achada, 2nd marriage found 1729, Nordestinho

2014-06-17 Thread IslandRoutes
Eliseu, Thank you for the file! Now I understand. I did not have a son, Joze, for Manoel Rebello and Maria Soares. I see where they fit in. You have considerably more research on this line than I do. By the way, I noticed on your chart Jacinto Jose de Braga. This is my line. Jozimas de

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

2014-06-20 Thread IslandRoutes
Hi all, I have gone through all the deaths from 1781-1809. Now I have a Monte I can't place in the tree. This is the entry I found. Maybe someone here has already figured her out? Image 0067 Maria do Monte, 70 years old, d. 4 Feb 1796 wife of Francisco Pereira Thanks, Mel -- For options,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading passport entry (Raposo/Mosteiros) please

2014-06-24 Thread IslandRoutes
I am helping a cousin with her Raposo line. I came across two entries in the passports that I believe are brothers (thought there is some confusion over how this family has linked these two together). Anyway, this is the page I am looking at:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading passport entry (Raposo/Mosteiros) please

2014-06-24 Thread IslandRoutes
An added note: I decided to take a look at Mosteiros today. I found Francisco Raposo and Maria Emilia's marriage record. It does confirm that Francisco was a Pai Incognito. He was also a widow.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with reading a marriage record Raposo, Mosteiros

2014-06-28 Thread IslandRoutes
I'm doing some research for my cousin and have found her great grandparent's marriage record in Mosteiros. Can someone help me with the names on this record. I can read the information about the groom, but I can't make out the bride's father's surname and the bride's mother's name? I can

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with reading a marriage record Raposo, Mosteiros

2014-06-28 Thread IslandRoutes
JR, Thanks for the translation and going the extra mile to get the baptismal for Manoel Raposo. I was guessing Ignacio or Innocencio for the wife's father's surname on the marriage. This priest had an odd way of not connecting the bottom of his letters. The baptismal is helpful. It is

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with reading a marriage record Raposo, Mosteiros

2014-06-30 Thread IslandRoutes
Cheri, I understand what you mean. You probably noticed the Manual spelling throughout the book. I appreciate what Demello did by indexing these records, but I always go to the original because he made little errors. Also, some might not realized that just because an entry appears in

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help translating baptismal Raposo/Mosteiros

2014-07-02 Thread IslandRoutes
I am trying to work out what the middle part of this baptimal says. I've got the beginning. It says that Maria Albina de Jesus was from lugar de Ginetes. After the word Ginetes it says something like recebios(?) no Irmida de Sao Nicolao do Sete Cidades, Parochiianos d'este freguezia e

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help translating baptismal Raposo/Mosteiros

2014-07-02 Thread IslandRoutes
. The Mother from S. Sebastiao Ginetes, they are parishioners of Mosteiros and live in Sete Cidades. Margaret Vicente On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 5:56 PM, IslandRoutes insearchofth...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I am trying to work out what the middle part of this baptimal says. I've got

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading passport entry (Raposo/Mosteiros) please

2014-07-02 Thread IslandRoutes
- for the obvious reasons. My problem was trying to figure out which primo Manoel people were referring to whenever there was a family discussion. :) On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 2:13:43 PM UTC-4, IslandRoutes wrote: Hi Dan, I try to keep in mind that there is usually some truth to family

[AZORES-Genealogy] Ginetes marriage in records for Mosteiros (Raposo again)?

2014-07-02 Thread IslandRoutes
Thanks to Margaret's help on a baptismal, I went back to the marriage record. I knew there was something odd about this record. Maybe someone can explain this to me. These are the church records for Mosteiros. The one I am looking at is on the right hand page, Manoel Raposo and Maria

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ginetes marriage in records for Mosteiros (Raposo again)?

2014-07-02 Thread IslandRoutes
Oh gosh! I am so sorry to everyone that that other link was posted. I have no idea how I did that. I'm am red with embarrasment. This is the correct link for the marriage record in Mosteiros for Manoel Raposo and Maria Albina. The record seems to say they were married in Sete Cidades and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help translating baptismal Raposo/Mosteiros

2014-07-02 Thread IslandRoutes
of the people of the western border of Vila Franca, actually married in Ponta Garca, probably because it was closer to their residence. There are many areas like this on Sao Miguel. JR On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 9:11:45 PM UTC-4, IslandRoutes wrote: Margaret, Thanks for the translation. Recebidos

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Record in the wrong year (Mosteiros)?

2014-07-05 Thread IslandRoutes
/P111.html Mel On Saturday, July 5, 2014 11:24:42 AM UTC-7, IslandRoutes wrote: I have been working more on my cousin's Raposo line. I have found Francisco Raposo's baptismal and now can prove he and Manoel Raposo are brothers (mother and grandmother match). The baptismals for this era

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ginetes marriage in records for Mosteiros (Raposo again)?

2014-07-06 Thread IslandRoutes
/subordinate of S. Sebastiao's Parish of Ginetes'| On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:29 PM, IslandRoutes insearchofth...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Oh gosh! I am so sorry to everyone that that other link was posted. I have no idea how I did that. I'm am red with embarrasment

[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Hawaiian Group on Facebook

2014-07-10 Thread IslandRoutes
Doug's post reminded me that I haven't posted about the Portuguese Hawaiian Genealogy Group on Facebook. We have a fairly active group working in various areas of Portuguese Hawaiian Research. It is a closed, moderated group (because of spammers). If you're on Facebook, check us out. Click

[AZORES-Genealogy] A question about Pai Incognito

2014-07-10 Thread IslandRoutes
I have had the opportunity to work on lines in the Azores and Southern France (not Portuguese...LOL) I noticed something that made me wonder about terms. In France, there is an equivalent to Pai Incognito. It escapes me at this moment, but it isn't important. It means the same thing that

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Is Tracado an alcunha?

2014-07-12 Thread IslandRoutes
Wow, Eliseu! Wasn't expecting anyone to find a document :D I am not sure if he is related, but he must be given the location and the surname. I've sent this on to my cousin. She may even recognize the man. You've given me a couple meanings for the term Tracado. I am going to send those to

[AZORES-Genealogy] Poss. new connection on the Pacheco Rezendes/Remigio line to Canada and Brasil

2014-07-14 Thread IslandRoutes
I wanted to share the latest on the Pacheco Rezendes (aka Pacheco Remigio and Romiza) family from Maia, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel Isl. My cousin, Rita, and I have been working on various parts of this tree. My line left for Hawaii in 1882 while hers ended up in Fall River in the early 1900s.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poss. new connection on the Pacheco Rezendes/Remigio line to Canada and Brasil

2014-07-15 Thread IslandRoutes
A clarification, Antonio Medeiros Cordeiro is on page 306 of Rodrigo Rodrigues work volume 1. He is #7-10 Antonio de Medeiros m. Francisca de Souza. This goes back to Rui Lopes, Goncalvo Vaz Botelho O Grande, and others. On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:37:00 AM UTC-7, IslandRoutes wrote

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil

2014-07-15 Thread IslandRoutes
Pam, I don't have any stories passed down, but since all my Hawaii folks came during the first wave of the sugar plantation migration, I suspect that was their motivation. I know for a fact that my de Braga ancestors came to work the sugar planation because I have a copy of the contract that

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil

2014-07-16 Thread IslandRoutes
Antonio, Hawaii had what was considered a paternalistic plantation system. The owner of the plantation saw themselves as a sort of father to the lesser people he employed. Many plantations treated their employees very well. I have not heard bad things about the Kilauea Sugar Plantation where

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil

2014-07-18 Thread IslandRoutes
Pau Hana by Ronald Takaki is free through Google Books: http://books.google.com/books?id=LD94ovK6Ej0Clpg=PP1dq=pau%20hanapg=PA16#v=onepageq=pau%20hanaf=false On Thursday, July 17, 2014 7:47:59 AM UTC-7, apor...@yahoo.com wrote: Looks like an interesting book, however; it appears that only the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil

2014-07-18 Thread IslandRoutes
I should have pointed out that Pau Hana is free to read from the Google Books website. If you want the ebook version it is $8.99. On Friday, July 18, 2014 6:17:09 PM UTC-7, IslandRoutes wrote: Pau Hana by Ronald Takaki is free through Google Books: http://books.google.com/books?id

[AZORES-Genealogy] The Hawaii Sugar Contract System

2014-07-18 Thread IslandRoutes
Someone asked a question about this, but I can't find the post. I researched this extensively when I wrote my research guide (an ebook) on Portuguese immigration to Hawaii during the sugar plantation era. A Hawaiian sugar plantation owner would fill out an order for labor, much like they

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poss. new connection on the Pacheco Rezendes/Remigio line to Canada and Brasil

2014-07-18 Thread IslandRoutes
Hermano, You are welcome. Did you also see the information I included about the descendants of Remigio Pacheco who ended up on the East Coast of the United States? On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 9:32:48 PM UTC-7, Hermano C. Pires wrote: Melody Many thanks for for the information on Wikitree.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Update on the Portuguese Genealogical Society of Hawaii

2014-07-26 Thread IslandRoutes
Some of you may have heard the rumors that the PGSH is having problems. I've got updated information that I wanted to share. First, their president of many years, Doris Naumu, retired in January. She was having health problems and stepped down. The new president is Dan Nelson. Second, the

[AZORES-Genealogy] My FTDNA autosomal results are in

2014-08-01 Thread IslandRoutes
Yesterday, my autosomal DNA test results came in. I've been diligently reading through the materials, educating myself, and bugging Cheri (sorry Cheri!) The myOrigins map came up exactly as I would expect with my father side being French, my Mom's father's side being from Sao Miguel Island,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How to format names on family trees?

2014-08-01 Thread IslandRoutes
I'm going to come at this from a different direction--how it affects my ability to work with my genealogy software database. As I depend on my database a lot to find people, it's important that I think through how I might search for them. For awhile, I was doing first middle surname when

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: AUSENTE meaning

2014-08-02 Thread IslandRoutes
Eliseu, Thank you for the definition of ausente. I was told it meant absent. For your description am I to understand that it could be unavoidably absent (like a soldier stationed away from the village or an immigrant in another country who could not come home), but it can also mean a

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: AUSENTE meaning

2014-08-05 Thread IslandRoutes
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Update on the Portuguese Genealogical Society of Hawaii

2014-08-06 Thread IslandRoutes
Another update on the PGSH: I am told that they have a new location. However, the address and phone number have not been handed out yet. I'm guessing it will take a couple of weeks for everything to be settled and then moved. I will posted when I know more. -- For options, such as

[AZORES-Genealogy] Gr Gr Grandparents Jacinto Pacheco and Anna Jacinta de Mello marr found in FVC!

2014-08-07 Thread IslandRoutes
I am so happy this morning :) 14 years ago, I stopped going to the Family History Center because my arthritis worsened. I could no longer manipulate the microfilm readers. So, I stopped working on my Azorean lines and I waited for the records to come online...some day. This left me with

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: UPEC Death Claims Registers on Ancestry

2014-08-07 Thread IslandRoutes
Thanks for the tip, Kathy! I noticed something that people should be aware of when searching these records. In the County or Organizaiton field it says Portuguese Union of California. So, if you tried to search this database with a city or county name you will probably get no results. On

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gr Gr Grandparents Jacinto Pacheco and Anna Jacinta de Mello marr found in FVC!

2014-08-09 Thread IslandRoutes
Thanks Cheri! This is a finally! John located Jacinto's baptismal record for me. So, I how have Jacinto and Anna's baptismal, their marriage record, and baptismals for children #2-8. What I am missing is the bastismal for their oldest son, Antonio. The marriage occurred in 1856 in FVC.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gr Gr Grandparents Jacinto Pacheco and Anna Jacinta de Mello marr found in FVC!

2014-08-11 Thread IslandRoutes
Rats! My post from last night disappeared. Trying again... JR, I forget sometimes that you all haven't come along on this journey with my for the last 25 years. I originally thought the family added Algarvia (Algrava, Algarva, etc.) to coincide with my great grandfather's escape to

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA - Family Finder Test - MATCHES

2014-08-11 Thread IslandRoutes
Eliseu, As you know, I have mixed heritage (Azorean, French, Irish, British, and Welsh), so I expected to make a variety of matches with different types of researchers. I am surprised to find that I made very few matches with Portuguese researchers (at least what I can tell from their surnames

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gr Gr Grandparents Jacinto Pacheco and Anna Jacinta de Mello marr found in FVC!

2014-08-11 Thread IslandRoutes
Hermano, Thanks for checking! I'm not sure of the original spelling. I know the descendants predominantly used Algrava or Algarva in California and I have never found anyone using those two variations in the US who were not related to me. According to my own research it does not appear in

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Have you uploaded your DNA results to GEDMatch.com?

2014-08-14 Thread IslandRoutes
It is interesting to see everyone's experiences with GEDMatch. I'm trying to encourage the researchers on the Portuguese Hawaiian Group on Facebook to upload their data so that more Portuguese researchers will be included. I have several estimated 4th generation matches. I've started emailing

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gr Gr Grandparents Jacinto Pacheco and Anna Jacinta de Mello marr found in FVC!

2014-08-14 Thread IslandRoutes
In the past week I have gone through the baptismals for 1856-1863 in Fenais da Vera Cruz, Achada, and Algarvia searching for Antonio Pacheco. I came up with a big fat zero. I'm not sure where to look next, if I somehow missed it, or if I should accept that his baptismal is not to be found.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name marriage, Maia

2014-09-18 Thread IslandRoutes
Can someone help me interpret what is after the Bride's father's name? Record #4 for Joao de Mello Castanho and Engracia da Conceicao. It says Manoel Rapozo __ The word in the blank is the one I am having trouble with. It looks like Nenana (comparing to the lower case n in Manoel

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name marriage, Maia

2014-09-18 Thread IslandRoutes
Pacheco da Silva wrote: I think is NÊSPERA… *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *Em nome de *IslandRoutes *Enviada:* quinta-feira, 18 de Setembro de 2014 17:50 *Para:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with phrase on Felicianno de Mello's obito

2014-11-02 Thread IslandRoutes
I have found my 3rd great grandfather's obito in Maia, Ribeira Grande, 1884. It is image #7, #17 for Felicianno de Mello: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-O-1880-1889/SMG-RG-MAIA-O-1880-1889_item1/P98.html I need help with the phrase after his name. It starts

[AZORES-Genealogy] Found Antonio da Rocha and Rosa da Estrella Boteilho's marriage, 1777, Estrella

2014-11-02 Thread IslandRoutes
I was so excited when the Maia records came online. I would be able to fill in some holes in my tree. One of them being finding the marriage record for Antonio da Rocha and Rosa da Estrella Boteilho. I wasn't sure what time period to look in as I had some scattered marriage records and

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