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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:
You have missed the point of the siddhis, which is to practice
them
innocently, without any expectation of a result. It is the
expectation of a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
I suspect that all techniques of
self realization are placebos.
If time and space don't exist or don't exist as the agency of the
creation,
Perhaps it means:
Not to get too caught up- in this ability or that ability;
Before enlightenment is established...
As this could certainly be one of the most damaging results...
If one decides to concentrate on one particular 'power';
And use it for ego purposes, in whatever way the ego would
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
*That* is why I keep bringing up your tendency not
to believe your own experience, Lawson.
I don't actually recall any instances of Lawson
not believing his own experience.
Do you have any examples in mind? Or does
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
*That* is why I keep bringing up your tendency not
to believe your own experience, Lawson.
I don't actually recall any instances of Lawson
not
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
But think about the placebo theory. One of the
first realizations one has after realization is
that it's not new. The state of attention you
find yourself in has always been present. What
then was the effect of the
--- Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maharishi himself was given by the media an opportunity
to float. He refused.
Is this his first successful marketing decision which
has turned out to be a failure?
Uns.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
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snip
*That* is why I keep bringing up your tendency not
to believe your own
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
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--- uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maharishi himself was given by the media an
opportunity
to float. He refused.
Is this his first successful marketing decision
which
has turned out to be a failure?
Uns.
That a great koan!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
jflanegi@
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---
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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snip The effect of imprinting, and decades of having been
told what is possible and what is not, is a tough
nut to crack. One of the reasons that I still like
Carlos Castaneda is that he is one of the only writers
in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
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snip The effect of imprinting, and decades of having been
told what is possible and what is not, is a tough
nut to crack. One of the reasons that I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:
You have missed the point of the siddhis, which is to practice
them
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps it means:
Not to get too caught up- in this ability or that ability;
Before enlightenment is established...
As this could certainly be one of the most damaging results...
If one decides to concentrate on one
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
*That* is why I keep bringing up your tendency not
to believe your own experience, Lawson.
I don't actually recall any instances of Lawson
not
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
I suspect that all techniques of
self realization are placebos.
If
Doing program in a room with siddhas, at its finest,
was a 3 on a scale that, for me, goes to 11. There
really wasn't much to get freaked about.
I agree with you that some of the freaked-outedness in
Carlos' books was because of him, and
For me doing program during the taste of utopia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doing program in a room with siddhas, at its finest,
was a 3 on a scale that, for me, goes to 11. There
really wasn't much to get freaked about.
For me doing program during the taste of utopia was about
a
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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snip The effect of imprinting, and decades of
having been
told what is possible and what is not, is a tough
nut to crack. One of the reasons that I still like
Carlos
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
I suspect that all techniques of
self realization are placebos.
If
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
jim_flanegin jflanegi@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
no_reply@
wrote:
I suspect that
he Hindu Philosophy states, Sidhis are by-products that come
on its own.
It also states, they are distractions that should be avoided
at all costs.
That's the same old tired misinterpretation of Patañjali!
Everyone should believe by now, that the demonstrative
pronoun
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
he Hindu Philosophy states, Sidhis are by-products that come
on its own.
It also states, they are distractions that should be avoided
at all costs.
That's the same old tired misinterpretation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I am not the Sanskrit scholar that Card is, but
I find it difficult to believe that the Yoga
Sutras contain actual instructions for how to
perform the siddhis. Such techniques were and are
taught orally or via
The Hindu Philosophy states, Sidhis are by-products that
come
on its own.
It also states, they are distractions that should be
avoided
at all costs.
Yeah, I wouldn't say 'Hindu Philosophy' as such a thing does not exist!!! In
Sri Vidya the sidhis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
snip Or perhaps MMY is correct, and perfection of any siddhi
is a
sign of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, amarnath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
Well Sir barry, I think Jim is correct.
The Hindu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@
wrote:
Well Sir barry, I think Jim is correct.
The
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snipI personally
believe that the latter are a made-up set of
techniques that have nothing to do with what
Patanjali was describing, but if others choose
to believe that they're authentic Patanjali
and derive some
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
Well Sir barry, I think Jim is correct.
The Hindu Philosophy states, Sidhis are by-products that come
on its own.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snipI personally
believe that the latter are a made-up set of
techniques that have nothing to do with what
Patanjali was describing, but if
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:
I had unmistakable, repeatable and sustained experiences
of siddhis doing the program, and after stopping the practice
of it. For you to imply
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
snipI personally
believe that the latter are a made-up set of
snipI personally
believe that the latter are a made-up set of
techniques that have nothing to do with what
Patanjali was describing, but if others choose
to believe that they're authentic Patanjali
and derive some benefit from practicing them,
cool.
Kind of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
I had unmistakable, repeatable and sustained experiences
of siddhis doing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[Jim wrote:
...so if I or anyone else were moodmaking, there would be
no results to report!
I corrected this misstatement of mine in an earlier
post. I shouldn't have used the word 'moodmaking.'
Applies equally to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
You have missed the point of the siddhis, which is to practice
them innocently, without any expectation of a result.
That is possible. When it comes to investing my
time in a spiritual practice, I'm a results
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
I believe that people have genuine experiences
as a result of practicing the TM siddhis. I'm
just not convinced that the TM siddhis cause
those
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
I'm a results kinda guy.
The result of what?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suspect that all techniques of
self realization are placebos.
The peppermint ones are best. Try to get in tha line.
And that must have been quite the research designer. All placebos.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
I believe that people have genuine experiences
as a result of practicing the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
I suspect that all techniques of
self realization are placebos.
The peppermint ones are best. Try to get in tha line.
And that must have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
I suspect that all techniques of
self realization are placebos.
have
been achieved 30 years ago itself.
Imagine the loss of time, money and energy due to the literal
interpertation of Maharishi.
off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 04:39:00 -
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: First public claims of widespread hovering
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:
I had unmistakable, repeatable and sustained experiences
of siddhis doing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maharishi himself was given by the media an opportunity to float. He
refused.
Going by the Logical extention of your own arguement, nobody on this
planet, walks
the talks.
By the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip My own take is that if it were just placebo, there would be more
hopping and other flavors
reported, but who can say?
Its a formula. A formula producing specific results. You can equivocate
all you want if you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
snip My own take is that if it were just placebo, there would be more
hopping and other flavors
reported, but who can say?
Its a formula. A formula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[...]
Think for myself !?!
Ouch.
You still have thought-processes?
Ouch...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@
wrote:
Well Sir barry, I think Jim is correct.
The Hindu Philosophy states, Sidhis are by-products that
come
on its own.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
snip My own take is that if it were just placebo, there would
be more
hopping and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
I believe that people have genuine experiences
as a result of practicing the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
[...]
Think for myself !?!
Ouch.
You still have thought-processes?
Not sure, it might have just been indigestion.
OffWorld
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
snip My
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
[...]
Think for myself !?!
Ouch.
You still have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I am with you, Hermanitor.
Until someone demonstrates hovering they should not try to teach
about enlightenment or religion.
You would have been good fodder for Rama -- Dr. Frederic
Lenz. He demonstrated
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone else see this story from the Cleveland Plain Dealer?
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/11639
28892287880.xmlcoll=2#continue
Especially of note is the comment on the third online
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote:
Anyone else see this story from the Cleveland Plain Dealer?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@
wrote:
Anyone else see this story from the Cleveland Plain Dealer?
--- hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone else see this story from the Cleveland
Plain Dealer?
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/11639
28892287880.xmlcoll=2#continue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
begin quoted
snip
How long must one study before learning to fly?
The ***hovering mainly happens with people studying full time***
[emphasis added]. But once a person learns Transcendental
Meditation,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote:
snip
begin quoted
snip
How long must one study before learning to fly?
The ***hovering mainly happens with people studying full time***
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
So I
think the supposed quotes from Fietler may well not
all be verbatim, but rather the reporter's imprecise
paraphrases. We just saw recently
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote:
Anyone else see this story from the Cleveland Plain Dealer?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
This brings up a very interesting question: *Would* you
believe it if you saw it with your own eyes?
. . .
The real issue is that you also said that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am with you, Hermanitor.
Until someone demonstrates hovering they should not try to teach
about enlightenment or religion.
Although I have seen big unathletic geeky ungainly blokes doing
yogic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
snip
This brings up a very interesting question: *Would* you
believe it if you saw
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, hovering has nothing to do with enlightenment. It is an
indication of a clear channel within the human nervous system,
though not an indicator of Self Realization. Whether or not we can
manifest results of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
This brings up a very interesting question: *Would* you
believe it if you saw it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
This brings up a very interesting question: *Would* you
believe it if you saw it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:
Hi, hovering has nothing to do with enlightenment. It is an
indication of a clear channel within the human nervous system,
though not an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
This
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
If you were in a room and saw someone hover, right
in front of your eyes, and not everyone else in the
room saw it, would you believe your own experience
or the other people?
If one remembers they did most SIMS girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
Hi, hovering has nothing to do with enlightenment. It is an
indication of a clear channel within the human nervous system,
though not an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@
wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
This
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
Hi, hovering has nothing to do with enlightenment. It is an
indication of
.
I think, I have mentioned it upteen times.
TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:04:58 -
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: First public claims of widespread hovering by the
movement?
Why me, of course. :-)
I actually have no memory of a specific talk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
Or if you were in a room and saw jesus talking to krishna,
right in front of your eyes, and not everyone else in the
room saw it, would you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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This brings up a very interesting question: *Would* you
believe it if you saw it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
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I am with you, Hermanitor.
Until someone demonstrates hovering they should not try to teach
about enlightenment or religion.
Do you automatically conclude they are lying and
delusional just because your experience is different?
Of course not.
But then you are not trusting your experience
Do you always believe that everyone who has an
experience that is different from yours to be
lying and delusional?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
This brings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you automatically conclude they are lying and
delusional just because your experience is different?
Of course not.
But then you are not trusting your experience
Do you always believe that
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip Or perhaps MMY is correct, and perfection of any siddhi is a
sign of enlightenment.
I'd like to read the exact quote in context. Do you have it available
please?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
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I am with you, Hermanitor.
Until someone demonstrates hovering they should not try to teach
about enlightenment or religion.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
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I am with you, Hermanitor.
Until someone demonstrates hovering they should not try to teach
about enlightenment or religion.
You would
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
no_reply@ wrote:
I am with you, Hermanitor.
Until someone demonstrates hovering they should not try to teach
about enlightenment or religion.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
snip Or perhaps MMY is correct, and perfection of any siddhi is a
sign of enlightenment.
I'd like to read the exact quote in context. Do you have it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
snip Or perhaps MMY is correct, and perfection of any siddhi is a
sign of enlightenment.
I'd like to read the exact quote in context. Do you have it
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