Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/18/05 12:31 AM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dana Sawyer travels to India almost yearly, and interviews 100s of swamis, teachers, shakaracharas regularly. Sorry I haven't weighed in on this discussion. I'm now 462 posts behind. I feel like that guy in Master and Commander who

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/18/05 12:47 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am missing relevant info on Chandol, plese provide it. Done. Discovering Brides by Anoop Chandola That settles it. He's the ultimate authority on the Shankaracharya controversy. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shanti2218411 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --It would be helpful in these discussions for there to be a common definition for terms being used egreal.When this word is it may mean something very

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/18/05 12:47 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am missing relevant info on Chandol, plese provide it. Done. Discovering Brides by Anoop Chandola That settles it. He's the ultimate

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Past Life Stuff...'

2005-06-18 Thread eloigne24
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is interesting to note, that many people who are attracted to spiritual power in this lifetime, were in recent past life- times associated with power/structure groups. Superior(a pun)among them in the recent past

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- marekreavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Yes, the one who began with the objective to find who or what that one was is extinquished in the process. That one(self)is not found because it was

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/18/05 12:47 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am missing relevant info on Chandol, plese provide it. Done. Discovering Brides by Anoop Chandola That settles it. He's the ultimate

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snipped a lot) Advaita addresses Awareness unfolded to its core, stripped naked to encompass All, even objective phenomenon -- including, along the way, the processes of perception, thinking, deciding acting. Nothing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread Ingegerd
It is summer in Norway, and I have vacation. What am I going to do? I am going to initiate a lot of people into Transcendental Meditation. I wish you all a good summer. Ingegerd -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Um, OK, but how do you know that the,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread Ingegerd
Sparaig. Are you from Norway? This is one of the Histories one Purusha from Norway is telling. Ingegerd Sounds like standard business practices, although not necessarily good ones. MMY used to tell people that they had a responsibility to inform him when his OWN behavior was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shantananda

2005-06-18 Thread Ingegerd
It was thousands od Dollars! 50 % of the initiation fees went to India -. Only in 1963, did Norway send kr. 70.000 to India (11.000 Dollars). The money was floating to India from all area of the world. Ingegerd This would have been about 35years or so ago. DOn't think that MMY had

[FairfieldLife] EU 'in crisis' over talks failure

2005-06-18 Thread sramanist
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4105970.stm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[FairfieldLife] UK is condemned - by France!!

2005-06-18 Thread chandashari
France condemned the UK for rejecting a deal to have its EU rebate frozen. The French president was scathing about the British stance http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4105970.stm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Wha!?

2005-06-18 Thread cardemaister
http://www.yogagroup.org/patanjal.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To

Re: [FairfieldLife] UK is condemned - by France!!

2005-06-18 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- chandashari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: France condemned the UK for rejecting a deal to have its EU rebate frozen. The French president was scathing about the British stance http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4105970.stm Oh joy! The Sat Yuga is truly here! We all are in tune with

[FairfieldLife] Is your computer slowing up a bit?

2005-06-18 Thread uns_tressor
If your machine is not as light on its toes as it used to be, then it may be getting cookies from Yahoo which are causing this. Yahoo is not shy about admitting that it tracks people but the problem (slowing up) can be reduced, or so people say:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is your computer slowing up a bit?

2005-06-18 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your machine is not as light on its toes as it used to be, then it may be getting cookies from Yahoo which are causing this. Yahoo is not shy about admitting that it tracks people but the problem (slowing up) can

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Defining Enlightenment and Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread Vaj
Good morning Rick: On Jun 18, 2005, at 3:06 AM, Rick wrote: Yes, if only it were that simple. It may have been a delusion of self all along but this delusion believed in over countless lifetimes created an immensely complex mountain of Karmic energy that demands to be unwound. Step one:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is your computer slowing up a bit?

2005-06-18 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your machine is not as light on its toes as it used to be, then it may be getting cookies from Yahoo which are causing this. Yahoo is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Defining Enlightenment and Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread Llundrub
In this world people are all doing many practices for liberation. In none of these practices is anything other happening than this: the stream of consciousness is the ground, it is the path, it is the goal. There is nothing else but this. Those who say otherwise have gone off on a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a substantial group of the 'newly awakened' here

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Sankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is his word? One sentence from a conversation 35 years ago with a shankaracharay not recognized by the traditon. And his main work appears to be a novelist, on topics not related to Indian studies Cough:

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-18 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why did you CARE? Because he was being a pissant, and a pussy pissant at that. I later asked the hotel owners, from whom the hotel had been

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread Vaj
On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:03 AM, jyouells2000 wrote: Agreed 'sign's of awakening' can only be self reported. The difference between nearly infinite and infinite is infinite. It's a catagory difference. Once it is clearly known that unbounded is not a 'really big space', and that eternal is not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:03 AM, jyouells2000 wrote: Agreed 'sign's of awakening' can only be self reported. The difference between nearly infinite and infinite is infinite. It's a catagory difference. Once it is clearly known that unbounded is not a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/15/05 9:42 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/15/05 2:23 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it jeopardizes the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Blissamide??

2005-06-18 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://antoine.frostburg.edu/chem/senese/101/features/anandamide.shtml What do chocolate cravings, forgetful mice, and blissful pigs have in common? The answer is anandamide, a recently discovered messenger

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/18/05 12:47 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus 8 scholarly books [by chandol] on linguistics and music. What has Dana Sawyer

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread Vaj
On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: In many traditions one checks ones View, their inner experience and POV with a teacher who's 'been there, done that'. I can't tell you how many people I've met who thought they were enlightened after a certain experience or shift in

[FairfieldLife] Tasting Your Way to Infinity: the myth that genuine spirituality involves getting rid of thoughts.

2005-06-18 Thread Vaj
http://homepage.mac.com/vajranatha/FileSharing2.html attachment: Kempton.jpg x-tad-bigger Tasting Your Way to Infinity. Part 1. The Feeling of Body, Mind, and Spirit. /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSally Kempton/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFor twenty years, Sally Kempton was one of the foremost

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread akasha_108
--- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, put another way, what makes pure awareness become not so pure? Rick Carlstrom It gets lost or muddled in the shuffle of perception, thinking, daily life. to use a knee-jerk but experientially valid analogy, when mud is added to water, the water is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Juneteenth

2005-06-18 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 6/18/05 7:01:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Today is the Celebration of the emancipation of the slaves in Texas:June 19th 1865. Although the Emancipation Proclamation was issued 2 years earlier, "word" only got to Galvaston on this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Tasting Your Way to Infinity: the myth that genuine spirituality involves getting rid of thoughts.

2005-06-18 Thread Peter Sutphen
The irony of this article when it comes to TMer's is that as a group TMer's are too much out of their bodies and entrenched in mental concepts. --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/vajranatha/FileSharing2.html Tasting Your Way to Infinity. Part 1. The Feeling of Body,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Tasting Your Way to Infinity: the myth that genuine spirituality involves getting rid of thoughts.

2005-06-18 Thread Vaj
On Jun 18, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: The irony of this article when it comes to TMer's is that as a group TMer's are too much out of their bodies and entrenched in mental concepts. Well, not twice a day. ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Conceptual Models and Experience

2005-06-18 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:03 AM, jyouells2000 wrote: Agreed 'sign's of awakening' can only be self reported. The difference between nearly infinite and infinite is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/18/05 1:19 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/18/05 12:47 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am missing relevant info on Chandol, plese provide it. Done. Discovering Brides by Anoop

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- marekreavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Yes, the one who began

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, put another way, what makes pure awareness become not so pure? Rick Carlstrom It gets lost or muddled in the shuffle of perception, thinking, daily life. to use a

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **SNIP** By what definition? This presumes self to begin with. In other words, someone experiencing a sense of self

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Sankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 12:51 AM, akasha_108 wrote: As I said I reached this conclusion quite sadly. Its not a conclusion I thought possible or sought. This was my experience as well. It was a similar process one goes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/17/05 7:50 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither was I. I was merely pointing out that their decision to get away from the TMO may be the right one for THEM, but may not say anything about anyone

Re: [FairfieldLife] Tasting Your Way to Infinity: the myth that genuine spirituality involves getting rid of thoughts.

2005-06-18 Thread Bhairitu
TM mantras are mostly Shakti mantras and Siddha Yoga uses Shiva mantras. Hence why TM'ers live in the heads. Plus advanced technique users are worshiping Saraswati which causes an emphasis on intellect. What is needed are balancing techniques. - Bhairitu Peter Sutphen wrote: The irony of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is your computer slowing up a bit?

2005-06-18 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your machine is not as light on its toes as it used to be, then it may be getting cookies from Yahoo which are causing this. Yahoo is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Sankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread Vaj
On Jun 18, 2005, at 12:50 PM, Premanand Paul Mason wrote: 'the standard treatise still used by the swamis of this order' is? The Treatise on Cosmic Consciousness (jivanmuktiviveka) by Shankaracharya Vidyaranya. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Painful internal dynamics (was Re: CC is Baby Awakening)

2005-06-18 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always experience the opening of my crown chakra as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: In many traditions one checks ones View, their inner experience and POV with a teacher who's 'been there, done that'. I can't tell you how many people I've met who

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enlightenment/Awakening doesn't appear; ignorance dissappears. Good. But I'd say that even this is problematic, because people have

[FairfieldLife] Painful internal dynamics (was Re: CC is Baby Awakening)

2005-06-18 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ask because for me that 'expansion' initally felt like a subtle sense of the body expanding and continuing to include stars, etc. then seemed relatively unbounded and filled with heavy and then gentle bliss but it

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either I have had CC episodes and won't admit to them, or I haven't. If I have, then my comments might make sense to others who have had CC

[FairfieldLife] balancing techniques

2005-06-18 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TM mantras are mostly Shakti mantras and Siddha Yoga uses Shiva mantras. Hence why TM'ers live in the heads. Plus advanced technique users are worshiping Saraswati which causes an emphasis on intellect. What is

[FairfieldLife] Saturn Beeja Mantra

2005-06-18 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Saturn Beeja Mantra From a friend: Each day this week I will be sending out the mantra for the planet that rules that day. Today is Saturday, Saturn's day. His name in Sanskrit is most commonly Shani. Each planet of course has a lot of names in sanskrit each name corresponding to a

[FairfieldLife] 'Is The Bush Administration Becoming an Occupying Force?...'

2005-06-18 Thread Robert Gimbel
The troops in Iraq, occupying the country, are getting lot's of experience with insurgancy and urban warfare. Could it be, that if there is another terrorist attack, that these same troops could be used to put down a revolt here in the U.S.? Could it be that if the Bush administration,

Re: [FairfieldLife] balancing techniques

2005-06-18 Thread Bhairitu
shukra69 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TM mantras are mostly Shakti mantras and Siddha Yoga uses Shiva mantras. Hence why TM'ers live in the heads. Plus advanced technique users are worshiping Saraswati which causes an emphasis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Saturn Beeja Mantra

2005-06-18 Thread Bhairitu
Rick Archer wrote: From a friend: Each day this week I will be sending out the mantra for the planet that rules that day. Today is Saturday, Saturn's day. His name in Sanskrit is most commonly Shani. Each planet of course has a lot of names in sanskrit each name corresponding to a particular

[FairfieldLife] Simple sunsrise/sunset Yagyas instruction site

2005-06-18 Thread shukra69
I just happened to come accross this site that has instructions for simple sunrise and/or sunset Yagyas. If the cow dung requirement seems insurmountable in your area I know it can be found in the Puja items at www.ayurveda.com the yagya site is http://www.agnihotra.org/ there is some interesting

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Is The Bush Administration Becoming an Occupying Force?....

2005-06-18 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 6/18/05 1:34:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could it be that if the Bush administration, dosen't change it's stance on Iraq, then a revolt in the U.S. could be beginning now..as we speak? Is the Bush admistration, not only

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is your computer slowing up a bit?

2005-06-18 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your machine is not as light on its toes as it used to be, then it may be getting cookies from Yahoo which are causing this. Yahoo is not shy about admitting that it tracks people but the problem (slowing up) can be

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] 'Infinite Love Heals All...'

2005-06-18 Thread Robert Gimbel
INFINITE LOVE IS THE ONLY TRUTH - EVERYTHING ELSE IS ILLUSION Be compassionate and never forget how to love.Think inclusively.Reclaim noble values such as truth, honesty, honour, courage.Respect one's elders and look to what they have to teach you.Be empathetic.Look after the less fortunate

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Infinite Love Heals All...'

2005-06-18 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 6/18/05 3:07:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Be compassionate and never forget how to love.Think inclusively.Reclaim noble values such as truth, honesty, honour, courage.Respect one's elders and look to what they have to teach you.Be

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread shanti2218411
---Part of the problem of sharing expereince is that when someone tries to share their experience they must do so through their interpretative system.Futher complicating this is tha fact that terms like unboundedness may mean one thing to one person and something else to another person(even if

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Sankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread anonymousff
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it totally contradicted what Mahesh taught Premanand Paul Mason wrote: 'the standard treatise still used by the swamis of this order' is? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Treatise on Cosmic Consciousness

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-18 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shukra69 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TM mantras are mostly Shakti mantras and Siddha Yoga uses Shiva mantras. Hence why TM'ers live in the heads. Really? I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Tasting Your Way to Infinity: the myth that genuine spirituality involves getting rid of thoughts.

2005-06-18 Thread Llundrub
TM mantras are mostly Shakti mantras and Siddha Yoga uses Shiva mantras. Hence why TM'ers live in the heads. Shakti mantras have to do with the head? Plus advanced technique users are worshiping Saraswati which causes an emphasis on intellect. -Where did you get this?

[FairfieldLife] Recert News

2005-06-18 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Recert News Reportedly about $800K in checks were signed for the first months recert pay, but not much came in to cover that. It has now dawned on them that its difficult and expensive to get into malls. Many malls have refused them. It also turns out that 5 year leases are typical and

[FairfieldLife] Neelam comes to Fairfield

2005-06-18 Thread Rick Archer
Dear Fairfield friends, This coming week Neelam will be stopping in Fairfield as part of a world tour. There is scheduled 2 evenings of open question and answer (Satsang) and an all day going deeper into personal issues and coaching on living daily life in Unity - right now. See attachments

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recert News

2005-06-18 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reportedly about $800K in checks were signed for the first months recert pay, but not much came in to cover that. It has now dawned on them that its difficult and expensive to get into malls. Many malls have refused

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recert News

2005-06-18 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reportedly about $800K in checks were signed for the first months recert pay, but not much came in to cover that. It has now dawned on them that its difficult and expensive to get into malls. Many malls have refused

Re: [FairfieldLife] Recert News

2005-06-18 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reportedly about $800K in checks were signed for the first months recert pay, but not much came in to cover that. It has now dawned on them that its difficult and expensive to get into malls. Many malls have refused them. It also turns out that 5

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sparaig. Are you from Norway? This is one of the Histories one Purusha from Norway is telling. Ingegerd I live in Arizona, USA and heard it in Arizona, USA. Sounds like standard business practices, although not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shantananda

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was thousands od Dollars! 50 % of the initiation fees went to India -. Only in 1963, did Norway send kr. 70.000 to India (11.000 Dollars). The money was floating to India from all area of the world. Ingegerd I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip That's certainly a polite way of pointing out the Indian position on truthfulness. This Indian POV on truth is something to be remembered in all discussions about both enlightenment and their comments about spiritual teachers. At it's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Defining Enlightenment and Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning Rick: On Jun 18, 2005, at 3:06 AM, Rick wrote: Yes, if only it were that simple. It may have been a delusion of self all along but this delusion believed in over countless lifetimes created an immensely

[FairfieldLife] Re: Defining Enlightenment and Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
There is no goal nor path in TM. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this world people are all doing many practices for liberation. In none of these practices is anything other happening than this: the stream of consciousness is the ground, it is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Now, look at spraig's statement carefully: In the context of the TMO, anyone who discusses enlightenment is off the program... In the midst of an organization supposedly formed to promote and produce enlightmnent

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Sankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is his word? One sentence from a conversation 35 years ago with a shankaracharay not recognized by the traditon. And his main

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen few signs of newly awakened on this group. In fact,

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why did you CARE? Because he was being a pissant, and a pussy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:03 AM, jyouells2000 wrote: Agreed 'sign's of awakening' can only be self reported. The difference between nearly infinite and infinite is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/15/05 9:42 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/18/05 12:47 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus 8

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: In many traditions one checks ones View, their inner experience and POV with a teacher who's 'been there, done that'. I can't tell you how many people I've met who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:03 AM, jyouells2000 wrote: Agreed 'sign's of awakening' can only be self reported. The difference between nearly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tasting Your Way to Infinity: the myth that genuine spirituality involves getting rid of thoughts.

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
And the irony of your comments is that they have nothing to do with TM... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The irony of this article when it comes to TMer's is that as a group TMer's are too much out of their bodies and entrenched in mental

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tasting Your Way to Infinity: the myth that genuine spirituality involves getting rid of thoughts.

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: The irony of this article when it comes to TMer's is that as a group TMer's are too much out of their bodies and entrenched in mental concepts. Well, not twice a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conceptual Models and Experience

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] CC is baby awakening. Cessation of identification of consciousness with mind. End of I and me. CC is merely normal. There is no end of I and me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/18/05 1:19 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/18/05 12:47 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am missing

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] The water, Awareness is not noticably affected by the infusion of mud. its this quality that I see lacking in many reports of so called higher

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **SNIP** By what definition?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/17/05 7:50 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither was I. I was merely pointing out that their decision to get away

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Sankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 12:50 PM, Premanand Paul Mason wrote: 'the standard treatise still used by the swamis of this order' is? The Treatise on Cosmic Consciousness (jivanmuktiviveka) by Shankaracharya Vidyaranya. Hmmm.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-18 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The consensual sexual activities of an adult human with another adult human are usually considered to be a private matter, While I think the sexual things, if actually true*, are a bit overblown in peoples mind, there are

[FairfieldLife] Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-18 Thread akasha_108
I just came across 21 straight posts by our prolific friend. And I though Lub, Ron (in his day) and Rory posted a lot. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-18 Thread Bhairitu
cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shukra69 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TM mantras are mostly Shakti mantras and Siddha Yoga uses Shiva mantras. Hence

Re: [FairfieldLife] Tasting Your Way to Infinity: the myth that genuine spirituality involves getting rid of thoughts.

2005-06-18 Thread Bhairitu
Llundrub wrote: TM mantras are mostly Shakti mantras and Siddha Yoga uses Shiva mantras. Hence why TM'ers live in the heads. Shakti mantras have to do with the head? Shakti is the upward energy. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tasting Your Way to Infinity: the myth that genuine spirituality involves getting rid of thoughts.

2005-06-18 Thread Vaj
On Jun 18, 2005, at 7:55 PM, sparaig wrote: And the irony of your comments is that they have nothing to do with TM... Absolutely they do--as the discussion directly relates to TM. That is, if you are able to think outside the TM box. TM belongs to a class of meditation that is generally

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Sankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 12:50 PM, Premanand Paul Mason wrote: 'the standard treatise still used by the swamis of this order' is? The Treatise on Cosmic Consciousness (jivanmuktiviveka) by Shankaracharya Vidyaranya.

[FairfieldLife] Painful internal dynamics (was Re: CC is Baby Awakening)

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
But bliss isn't blissful. If you're still feeling something, then the questions arise: who is feeling, what is being felt, and what is the feeling? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either I have had CC episodes and won't admit to them, or I

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TM mantras are mostly Shakti mantras and Siddha Yoga uses Shiva mantras. Hence why TM'ers live in the heads. Plus advanced technique users

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