[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, You should study jyotish, particularly the Nadi Astrology system. NA can show you why certain things happen even though on the surface it looks brilliant. Specifically, a person may have a strong 9th house which gives good results relating to spirituality and the experiences of samadhi and the siddhis. But a strong 9th house is not necessarily beneficial to the 10th house affairs relating to career and work recognition. This is the reason why knowledge of the cuspal sublords can tell you the ancillary effects of a favorable 9th house. With this knowledge, one can make adjustments to his or her activities and take advantage of what nature has in store for the person. The Cuspal Sublords! I just found the name of my new metal band. But I love the way you write this stuff as though it all makes some sort of sense and can be used for divination purposes. I've really yet to see it here or anywhere. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, What kind of experiences have you had that is comparable to the enlightened beings? I've been there dude. I've talked about it before on here. TM blew my mind for a while, I saw the light, experienced the oneness that is also everything else at the same time but without changing it's own nature. Good trip, not a good long term proposition perhaps. I can see why religions get started over it though, it's easy to think that what is happening inside accurately reflects what's happening outside, and when you get a change of perception like that you might think you are seeing a deeper level of external reality but what we see of the world is created in our heads anyway so changes to that are changes in how our consciousness is created neurophysiologically. I don't think I'd make a very inspiring guru but people reacted differently to me when I was like it, bit of ultra blissed darshan for the guys at work. Maybe I would have got promoted quicker if it had hung around. But I went to live with the TMO because of experiences like this and they never came back. LOL! The rest is history... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Barry, Humans are limited and conditioned beings. Enlightened beings who have understood Being have to show the rest of us in concrete words and deeds the experience of the unified field. Philosophy and its fancy words and ideas, for me, do not convey the real meaning. So, you would have to use discretion in concluding that the world's wisdom books are fiction. A person, who makes criticisms and conclusions without reasonable and logical basis, is a fool. But the bible and the gita are completely different books from different cultures and with different aims among the so-called wisdom of their gods. To cherry pick a few remarks as being some sort of Truth that all ancient religions share is stretching credulity a bit. They aint remotely similar. And as usual, the problem is really that the experiences the wise speak of are the same as the ones I have had but we differ in interpretation of what they mean. In the absence of any information beyond that which can be gained by their senses they created a worldview that I don't think matches up with reality. I've been there, tried it on for size and disagreed with their conclusions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I really hate to be the person to have to explain this to you, JR, but the Bhagavad-Gita, the Old Testament, and the New Testament are all FICTION. You don't win philosophical discussions by invoking them, any more than if you had invoked the Harry Potter books. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence Share, Yes, IMO consciousness is alive. The Bhagavad Gita has shown this when Arjuna asked Krishna to show his true self. And, Krishna showed a vision of infinite types of beings to disclose who He is. On the other hand, the Old Testament states that Yahweh is the I AM Who AM. However, in the New Testament, Jesus is shown to be the embodiment of Consciousness in a human form. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, what you say brings up this question for me: is consciousness alive? Hmmm, or maybe better to ask: is Beingness alive? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence Share, It all depends on what you believe
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, You should study jyotish, particularly the Nadi Astrology system. NA can show you why certain things happen even though on the surface it looks brilliant. Specifically, a person may have a strong 9th house which gives good results relating to spirituality and the experiences of samadhi and the siddhis. But a strong 9th house is not necessarily beneficial to the 10th house affairs relating to career and work recognition. This is the reason why knowledge of the cuspal sublords can tell you the ancillary effects of a favorable 9th house. With this knowledge, one can make adjustments to his or her activities and take advantage of what nature has in store for the person. The Cuspal Sublords! I just found the name of my new metal band. I remember their big hit I Can Predict What The Sun Is Going To Do Tomorrow Morning Because I'm So Fuckin' Smart. :-) ', But I love the way you write this stuff as though it all makes some sort of sense and can be used for divination purposes. I've really yet to see it here or anywhere. It only makes sense to those who have previously invested years or decades in believing this kinda crap. Once they have done this, they pretty much *have* to keep believing it, or admit that they wasted their life pursuing nonsense. And we all know THAT is never gonna happen. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, What kind of experiences have you had that is comparable to the enlightened beings? I've been there dude. I've talked about it before on here. TM blew my mind for a while, I saw the light, experienced the oneness that is also everything else at the same time but without changing it's own nature. Good trip, not a good long term proposition perhaps. I can see why religions get started over it though, it's easy to think that what is happening inside accurately reflects what's happening outside, and when you get a change of perception like that you might think you are seeing a deeper level of external reality but what we see of the world is created in our heads anyway so changes to that are changes in how our consciousness is created neurophysiologically. I don't think I'd make a very inspiring guru but people reacted differently to me when I was like it, bit of ultra blissed darshan for the guys at work. Maybe I would have got promoted quicker if it had hung around. But I went to live with the TMO because of experiences like this and they never came back. LOL! The rest is history... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Barry, Humans are limited and conditioned beings. Enlightened beings who have understood Being have to show the rest of us in concrete words and deeds the experience of the unified field. Philosophy and its fancy words and ideas, for me, do not convey the real meaning. So, you would have to use discretion in concluding that the world's wisdom books are fiction. A person, who makes criticisms and conclusions without reasonable and logical basis, is a fool. But the bible and the gita are completely different books from different cultures and with different aims among the so-called wisdom of their gods. To cherry pick a few remarks as being some sort of Truth that all ancient religions share is stretching credulity a bit. They aint remotely similar. And as usual, the problem is really that the experiences the wise speak of are the same as the ones I have had but we differ in interpretation of what they mean. In the absence of any information beyond that which can be gained by their senses they created a worldview that I don't think matches up with reality. I've been there, tried it on for size and disagreed with their conclusions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I really hate to be the person to have to explain this to you, JR, but the Bhagavad-Gita, the Old Testament, and the New Testament are all FICTION. You don't win philosophical discussions by invoking them, any more than if you had invoked the Harry Potter books. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence Share, Yes, IMO consciousness is alive. The Bhagavad Gita has shown this when Arjuna asked Krishna to show his true self. And, Krishna showed a vision of infinite types of beings to disclose who He is. On the other hand, the Old Testament states that Yahweh is the I AM Who AM. However, in the New Testament, Jesus is shown to be the embodiment of Consciousness in a human form. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, what you say
Re: [FairfieldLife] Netherlands: the crime of questioning
While I may agree that trying to stifle free speech is a bad idea, it's good
for people to know that this particular Ass Clown has as much credibility in
the Netherlands as the now-dead leader of the Westboro Baptist Church did in
America. When he supposedly innocently asked Do you want more Moroccans? it
was *intended* to incite hatred, as he has done more overtly on many other
occasions. The question was as innocent as asking Have you stopped beating
your wife?
The Netherlands definitely has a few bigots and Ass Clowns like this one, but
*on the whole* common sense tends to win out in the end. It's just that the Ass
Clowns capture news headlines and make it seem as if they are more important
and more numerous than they are.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Barry,Humans are limited and conditioned beings. Enlightened beings who have understood Being have to show the rest of us in concrete words and deeds the experience of the unified field. Prove to me that there is or ever has been such a thing as an enlightened being. I'll wait. The thing is, John, you can't do it. You believe in enlightenment for the same reason you believe that these works of fiction are wisdom books, because someone you chose to believe TOLD YOU. That does *NOT* constitute proof. Me, I believe that the subjective experience that some call enlightenment exists. I believe this because I've experienced it for weeks and months at a time. But *having experienced it*, I can say that it was JUST ANOTHER EXPERIENCE. It did *not* make me special, and it doesn 't make anyone *else* special, either. It doesn't make anything they say any more accurate or cosmic or correct or valuable, any more than a profound drug-induced or psychosis-induced subjective experience does. You don't want to believe this because you have invested decades of your life pursuing practices that you believe will make you special. And after all these decades you are really *desperate* to be special. My advice is to relax, because it is never going to happen. Even if you have experiences that convince you that you're enlightened, no one (except the gullible idiots on the Batgap Forum) will treat you any differently, no one will think you're wise, and no one will be any more impressed by you than they ever have been. And if you write a book based on your experiences, it definitely won't be a wisdom book. :-) Philosophy and its fancy words and ideas, for me, do not convey the real meaning. So, you would have to use discretion in concluding that the world's wisdom books are fiction. A person, who makes criticisms and conclusions without reasonable and logical basis, is a fool. You are welcome to believe whatever you want. Personally, I think that anyone who actually believes that these books full of line after line after line of some guy telling other people who it is permissible for them to go out and kill because they believe differently than he does is more than a little bit of a fool. The Harry Potter books not only contain more wisdom than the Bhagavad-Gita, Old Testament, and New Testament combined, they're much better written. If you quote them to make a point, I might actually listen. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I really hate to be the person to have to explain this to you, JR, but the Bhagavad-Gita, the Old Testament, and the New Testament are all FICTION. You don't win philosophical discussions by invoking them, any more than if you had invoked the Harry Potter books. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence Share, Yes, IMO consciousness is alive. The Bhagavad Gita has shown this when Arjuna asked Krishna to show his true self. And, Krishna showed a vision of infinite types of beings to disclose who He is. On the other hand, the Old Testament states that Yahweh is the I AM Who AM. However, in the New Testament, Jesus is shown to be the embodiment of Consciousness in a human form. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, what you say brings up this question for me: is consciousness alive?Hmmm, or maybe better to ask: is Beingness alive? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence Share, It all depends on what you believe is the basis of the universe. If you believe that consciousness is the basis of the universe, it is likely that you would say biological intelligence is the more common way of development. This is because we know this happens on earth where humans exist. Non-biological intelligence implies that this is created by another type ofbeings--more likely humans or biological entities. I can see how a non-biological intelligence could be an advantage. For example, robots can direct and maintain the functions of a spaceship for centuries, without eating and sleeping like humans, until the destination is reached. In the distant future, humans could develop these intelligent robots to take human sperms and eggs to a nearby or distant star in the Milky Way. When an earthlike planet is reached or found, the robots can artificially inseminate the eggs with sperms to grow human beings who will populate or repopulate the new world. But if there is a faster way to get to the other worlds, then the assumptions would be different. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@...
[FairfieldLife] Why there is probably no hope for mankind
They don't understand how true this is.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not disappear. Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try itYou don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
Very wise Buck. The Islamic fundamentalists feel justified to kill those who speak ill of their Prophet. We don't have to do that as we know as we sow so shall we reap. They seem to lack the basic understanding of the laws of karma and if you kill an enemy he will just continue to be your enemy in another life, perhaps even more fiercely so. So I object to your resolution. Just forget about the Turq and let him fry in his own fat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Well, really there is a much larger communal discussion going on here about dealing with negativity. As such I am not going to entertain your particular negativity around this any further. For to go any further might well necessitate having to denounce you in addition to dredging your negativity further and I feel that should not be spiritually useful for either of us right now, according to the teaching. Instead I shall sit in yoga with your energetic resolution of your anger issues. I wish you well, -Buck turquoiseb wroteSon,... How old are you, Buck? I'll bet I'm older than you are. ...as a transcendentalist I well know the reality of my inner experience with this and for that I am quite a satisfied customer of the transcending meditation experience. I have no problem with this, and am in fact happy for you that your inner experience has been good for you. What I object to is your assumption that YOUR inner experience means diddleysquat to anyone else or is good for them. Or even that it should. I know and can certainly trust in the clarity of that reality by the science of my experience, thank you for asking. That reality isn't one. It's only your inner experience. YOUR INNER EXPERIENCE IS NOT REALITY. IT'S ONLY YOUR INNER EXPERIENCE. Get it? I am not going to get down in to your mud to wrestle with you point by point about George Bush, life is too short for that. However there is in deed a discerning and practical spiritual aspect of caution to what Maharishi is getting at with his negativity talk around spiritual practice. I find it wise to take that to heart. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck Sorry, but I can't take to heart the possibility that anyone who still tries to end rants by invoking the thoughtstopper Jai Guru Dev could possibly be wise. turquoiseb wrote : Two words: Scorpion nation. Five more: George Bush is a rakshasa. Saner persons than you would have looked at this and realized long ago that in Maharishi they were dealing with at best a hypocrite and at worst an insane person. Yet you still seem to consider him some sort of expert. Can you explain to us why you think this? Could it possibly be that the memories of him you're trying to hard to protect do not have and have never had anything to do with reality? So evidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is that if one entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on the subtle. One may even take on the energetics in the subtle. Negativity in form then it seems is like an entity lodging in the system spiritually. Like a stress snag, an entity, like some would call a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric of the subtle system. There is proly some truth to that. -Buck Dear FFL, Culturally this particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's teaching on negativity is really important. It did not just show up here. And so accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDB here having divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protect what they may well think is their spiritual lives from what they had experienced as a culture of ethical negativity that was TM, so they seem to say. But yet as these guys wallow in their stories even years later does this not continue to bring on them their own negativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is teaching here their own loops in negativity are not really good for these guys. It would be more better if they should be silent about these things of their past and not just keep dredging it up. They really should stop all this negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a larger collective good of everyone. Om, strike that last comment about the larger collective good for it seems that Maharishi actually was not talking about collective good or organizations in these early discourse but more specifically individual spiritual systems. I do hope that their apostate subtle systems may recover in field effect and come to some equanimity around their own individual time in TM. Sincerely, -Buck Maharishi on Negativity: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
A comment to be expected from the Turq. We all know that psychiatric wards are full of people being treated with psychofarma for having glimpses of higher states of consciousness they are not able to integrate in daily life. Experiences any real Sadhana will also give. The reason the Turq doesn't understand this is because he is a quitter that never did any Sadhana for any length of time in his entire life, instead choosing to live in a fantasy world believing his guru is respected and welcomed by heads of state everywhere. I'm sure there is a diagnosis for such fantasies as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not disappear. Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why there is probably no hope for mankind
If her ass gets any bigger there'll be a gravitational axis shift and everyone'll be revolving around her literally instead of just metaphorically. I wonder what that would do to my horoscope? Be some major eclipses for John and Bhairitu to factor in perhaps... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : They don't understand how true this is.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : A comment to be expected from the Turq. We all know that psychiatric wards are full of people being treated with psychofarma for having glimpses of higher states of consciousness they are not able to integrate in daily life. Experiences any real Sadhana will also give. The reason the Turq doesn't understand this is because he is a quitter that never did any Sadhana for any length of time in his entire life, instead choosing to live in a fantasy world believing his guru is respected and welcomed by heads of state everywhere. I'm sure there is a diagnosis for such fantasies as well. But how do you know that temples aren't just full of mentally ill people who have managed to integrate personality break-up into daily life? One man's sadhana is another man's bipolar. Maybe the crazy delusional freaks should be in charge of the world's religions. Erm ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not disappear. Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
I don't actually *have* a guru. But as we all know, Nabby does. To find out how *he* stacks up against the choosing to live in a fantasy world believing his guru is respected criterion, I searched for the most common tags applied to any reference to him on the Internet and found: Benjamin CremeMaitreya world spiritual fraudphony false world messiahcharlatan There were also wonderful quotes, such as: Creme is a marginalized figure even amongst his fellow New Age devotees; most likely because of his insistence upon an imminent appearance of a self-proclaimed Messiah. Creme was always at the outskirts of the Theosophical crowd, and hardly achieved anything of importance. For example, in his monumental work on the New Age, False Dawn, Lee Penn spends a total of a paragraph and a half (and two footnotes) discussing Benjamin Creme and his Share International (pp. 314, 418, 462) – as basic an outline as possible. Likewise, esoteric scholar Wouter J. Hanegraaff, in his New Age Religion and Western Culture, devotes but one sentence on Creme (p. 101). And of course there is this wonderful description in the New York Observer, written by Ron Rosenbaum: Long John is long gone, but Coast to Coast AM is there to keep you in touch with the night side of the culture that Long John first gave national voice to. You can still find that special undying brand of weirdness there. Updated, yes, and sometimes with the same kind of conspiracy theory you can find all over the Web, but still with room for iconic occult curiosities like Benjamin Creme, who appeared at 2 a.m. on a recent show. You know of Benjamin Creme, right, and his relation to Jesus, and you know about Benjamin Creme’s prophetic function in regard to the coming of the Super Fifth Degree Master and Teacher, the great and mighty all-powerful Maitreya, who outranks Jesus himself, right? Well, don’t feel bad if you don’t. To recognize the name Benjamin Creme, you probably have to be, as I am, an assiduous student of New Age rhetoric and literature (I believe in what Stephen Greenblatt first called a “poetics of culture” before it was renamed and mass-marketed to grad students as “the New Historicism”). Anyway, while following New Age trends and obsessions, I noticed that Benjamin Creme was always a little on the fringes of the New Age guru circuit, but the guy seemed to have staying power. He always seemed to turn up in the New Age lecture calendars, a distinguished-looking gentleman who had something to say about the Second Coming of the Christ. I recall something about Jesus having already come back, that he was living quietly in London, awaiting recognition. I somehow had the impression—mistaken, I now realize—that he was implicitly suggesting that he was Jesus (he lived in London). But I guess it was more a matter of him having inside info on the London Christ’s plans for revealing himself. It gets confusing, and I could be wrong, but after listening to his appearance on Coast to Coast AM recently, I got the impression that Benjamin Creme’s emphasis has shifted from Jesus to an entity called Maitreya, who outranks Jesus in the Ascended Master hierarchy. Benjamin Creme is apparently in “telepathic contact” with one of the Fourth Degree Masters and in sporadic contact with the Master of All Masters, this dude Maitreya, who’s planning to reveal himself and set us all straight so that all humanity will start caring and sharing like the great big family we all are. About time. I have to admit that listening to Benjamin Creme being interviewed by George Noory on Coast to Coast AM was a little frustrating. (Mr. Noory said that after Mr. Creme’s last appearance, a number of listeners called in to say they’d become physically ill afterward because they felt something coming through the radio. And there was some discussion of whether or not Maitreya might be the Antichrist). Mr. Creme was somewhat evasive about who the hell this Maitreya might be, what his deal is, why he doesn’t manifest himself already aside from sporadic appearances in other people’s bodies, like that time in Nairobi. (Mr. Creme’s Web site, in case you want to try to figure it out, is www.shareintl.org.) There was some dialogue on whether Maitreya had “suspended” his visits. Or whether he was coming “very soon,” and also what exactly he was coming for and why he was waiting. I mean, if we need help from a Teacher to get us caring and sharing, couldn’t he have shown up in, say, 1914? So there was a bit of vagueness, and I could see maybe this was the way Benjamin Creme had become such a perennial icon on the guru circuit for so long: He wasn’t giving a lot away. And as long as he just brings news of Maitreya’s imminent arrival but the Big Guy never shows up, Benjamin Creme is still The Man. But it just makes you wonder: What would it be like to be Benjamin Creme? It’s the old deception versus self-deception thing. You gotta admire
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why there is probably no hope for mankind
Her ass is so big that the European Space Agency has already sent a mission to try to land on it. (Posting the link rather than the photo so that Buck doesn't have a heart attack and Alex doesn't have to take it down to keep FFL family-friendly): https://mobile.twitter.com/adjwilson/status/532509584762499072/photo/1 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why there is probably no hope for mankind If her ass gets any bigger there'll be a gravitational axis shift and everyone'll be revolving around her literally instead of just metaphorically. I wonder what that would do to my horoscope? Be some major eclipses for John and Bhairitu to factor in perhaps... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : They don't understand how true this is.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why there is probably no hope for mankind
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Her ass is so big that the European Space Agency has already sent a mission to try to land on it. (Posting the link rather than the photo so that Buck doesn't have a heart attack and Alex doesn't have to take it down to keep FFL family-friendly): A giant leap for all mankind! https://mobile.twitter.com/adjwilson/status/532509584762499072/photo/1 https://mobile.twitter.com/adjwilson/status/532509584762499072/photo/1 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why there is probably no hope for mankind If her ass gets any bigger there'll be a gravitational axis shift and everyone'll be revolving around her literally instead of just metaphorically. I wonder what that would do to my horoscope? Be some major eclipses for John and Bhairitu to factor in perhaps... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : They don't understand how true this is.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
What Nabby is describing is called retinal fatique, prolonged staring at an object without the eyes moving exhausts the chemistry in the retina responsible for the detection of light. If when this happens and you look away at a light surface, you see a negative image, colours reversed that persists for a while (after image) while the chemistry refreshes. The eyes also do not remain completely still but naturally saccade, which partially helps to prevent retinal fatigue when one is not deliberately staring at something, which reduces but does not eliminate the saccade. Because of the scacade, the after image formed by staring does not perfectly line up with the object which can account for edge effects around the object viewed. I suppose this could be mistaken for some kind of 'spiritual' experience by the uninitiated, but it is just 'looking at something'. Spiritual experiences are just artefacts of the nervous system releasing prior conditioned responses and a person feels, for a while, clearer, freer etc., but eventually realises or rather actually accommodates to the new clearer, freer experience which then just seems normal, everyday. Eventually a realisation comes that the only thing that exists is normal everyday experience, minus certain ideas about what normal everyday experience is. You just live it, you do not think about what it is supposed to be. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not disappear. Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com What Nabby is describing is called retinal fatique, prolonged staring at an object without the eyes moving exhausts the chemistry in the retina responsible for the detection of light. Exactly. But they can't feel all self-important and special if they tell people that they experienced plain old everyday retinal fatigue, so they dress it up with fancy Woo Woo language the way that Jim and Nabby just did. If when this happens and you look away at a light surface, you see a negative image, colours reversed that persists for a while (after image) while the chemistry refreshes. The eyes also do not remain completely still but naturally saccade, which partially helps to prevent retinal fatigue when one is not deliberately staring at something, which reduces but does not eliminate the saccade. Because of the scacade, the after image formed by staring does not perfectly line up with the object which can account for edge effects around the object viewed. This is how people see auras, too. I suppose this could be mistaken for some kind of 'spiritual' experience by the uninitiated, but it is just 'looking at something'. Spiritual experiences are just artefacts of the nervous system releasing prior conditioned responses and a person feels, for a while, clearer, freer etc., but eventually realises or rather actually accommodates to the new clearer, freer experience which then just seems normal, everyday. Eventually a realisation comes that the only thing that exists is normal everyday experience, minus certain ideas about what normal everyday experience is. You just live it, you do not think about what it is supposed to be. Bu...bu...bu...but you can't pretend to be SPECIAL if you characterize what you see as normal everyday experience. That would be...uh...normal, and everyday, and people like Jim and Nabby could NEVER admit to being that. What they claim to see has to be as SPECIAL as they claim to be, donchaknow? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not disappear. Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not disappear. Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gorgeous Mosques
I felt the same way, as if the art serves as a bridge of the deepest subjective, into the outside world. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Very trippy. I've always preferred the spacious interiors of mosques with their absence of distracting clutter to churches or synagogues or what-you-will. It's as though you yourself have to expand subjectively to fill the void you are placed within; and when the architecture and colours are as seductive as in these photos you feel you are in good hands and can let go safely. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : These are breathtaking, gorgeous, eye of God creations! Thanks for the link - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : http://culture.viralnova.com/mosque-ceiling/?np=4amp;ns=14313 http://culture.viralnova.com/mosque-ceiling/?np=4amp;ns=14313
[FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe
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[FairfieldLife] Killer robots should be strictly monitored
The well I never news story of the week: 'Killer robots' should be strictly monitored, nations demand at UN http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/13/killer-robots-strictly-monitored-un-meeting-geneva http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/13/killer-robots-strictly-monitored-un-meeting-geneva 'Killer robots' should be strictly monitored, na... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/13/killer-robots-strictly-monitored-un-meeting-geneva Countries warn of potential dangers of autonomous weapons systems they say are at risk of violating international and humanitarian law View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/13/killer-robots-strictly-monitored-un-meeting-geneva Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
At least Barry was honest enough to admit that he's looking for a new gig. He's gone bat shit crazy these last few days. Can you imagine what i'd be like, if he didn't find this site barely worth participating in?! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not disappear. Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe
Looks like Share has turned into a stalker, too. :-) From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe NM mag has the scoop on B?! - Forwarded Message - From: New Mexico Magazine newmexicomagaz...@gmail.com To: sharelon...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:34 AM Subject: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe Get more New Mexico Magazine on Pinterest, Facebook, and Twitter. View this email in your browser Western NM Road Trip Traipse across lava fields, find turquoise treasures, and relish the local fare on the scenic route between Grants and Gallup. Home for the Holidays and BeyondChef John Rivera Sedlar's comes home to Santa Fe to open a restaurant...and to spend the holidays with Mom. What's Happening Infuse your December with piñon smoke, ski slopes, arts events, and Yuletide cheer, New Mexico-style. Find New Mexico Magazine at a nearby newsstand, or sign up for home delivery. Single issues and subscriptions are also available on iPad and iPhone. Copyright © 2014 New Mexico Magazine, All rights reserved. You are receiving this email because you opted in at our website, or during an online store purchase or during the subscription process. We thank you and appreciate all of our loyal readers and store customers. Our mailing address is: New Mexico Magazine 495 Old Santa Fe TrailSanta Fe, NM 87501 Add us to your address bookUnsubscribe from this listUpdate subscription preferences
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
Nabs, you do have a point. Barry doesn't seem to have much tolerance for those who don't see the world as he does. But this little site, of about 12 active participants appears to be the clam that is a major part of his world. And he regularly pounds his shoe on the podium. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : A comment to be expected from the Turq. We all know that psychiatric wards are full of people being treated with psychofarma for having glimpses of higher states of consciousness they are not able to integrate in daily life. Experiences any real Sadhana will also give. The reason the Turq doesn't understand this is because he is a quitter that never did any Sadhana for any length of time in his entire life, instead choosing to live in a fantasy world believing his guru is respected and welcomed by heads of state everywhere. I'm sure there is a diagnosis for such fantasies as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not disappear. Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why there is probably no hope for mankind
Who exactly doesn't acknowledge this? Could it be just another instance of Barry railing against something that doesn't exist, in order to process some pent up anger? Or maybe it's just some silly posturing on his part? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If her ass gets any bigger there'll be a gravitational axis shift and everyone'll be revolving around her literally instead of just metaphorically. I wonder what that would do to my horoscope? Be some major eclipses for John and Bhairitu to factor in perhaps... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : They don't understand how true this is.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
yep, this is what Maharishi would probably call, normalization of the eyesight. Once the link from pure Being to activity is realized, through the TMSP, all the senses begin to purify, resolving their ability to bring to consciousness, the entire spectrum of experience, of every sense, from the grossest physical manifestation, through the subtle layers, on to pure awareness. The eyes go first, and then the other senses, so that, after first experiencing the link between pure awareness and any sense, all the rest gets filled in, so to speak. What you describe is energetic sight, and there are many other ways of using the vision, also (incorporating time and space travel, going inside the body, investigating other non-physical realms of existence, and developing relationships there, etc.). This investigation is brought about by having the ability to uncover the entire spectrum of the senses, in a methodical way, taking it out of the realm of the mystical, and instead, as a manifestation of the science of Yoga; Union. The heart is what leads the way, and the rest follows. After the eyes naturally resolve every object into pure awareness, the other senses follow, so that we smell pure awareness, touch it, taste it, and hear pure awareness. Thanks for sharing this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
Like I said, a new gig might be just the thing for Barry. Does this mean we get to add Benjamin Creme to the new figure Barry obsesses about? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I don't actually *have* a guru. But as we all know, Nabby does. To find out how *he* stacks up against the choosing to live in a fantasy world believing his guru is respected criterion, I searched for the most common tags applied to any reference to him on the Internet and found: Benjamin Creme Maitreya world spiritual fraud phony false world messiah charlatan There were also wonderful quotes, such as: Creme is a marginalized figure even amongst his fellow New Age devotees; most likely because of his insistence upon an imminent appearance of a self-proclaimed Messiah. Creme was always at the outskirts of the Theosophical crowd, and hardly achieved anything of importance. For example, in his monumental work on the New Age,False Dawn http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/159731000X/conspiracyarc-20/, Lee Penn spends a total of a paragraph and a half (and two footnotes) discussing Benjamin Creme and his Share International (pp. 314, 418, 462) – as basic an outline as possible. Likewise, esoteric scholar Wouter J. Hanegraaff, in hisNew Age Religion and Western Culture http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0791438546/conspiracyarc-20/, devotes but one sentence on Creme (p. 101). And of course there is this wonderful description in the New York Observer, written by Ron Rosenbaum: Long John is long gone, but Coast to Coast AM is there to keep you in touch with the night side of the culture that Long John first gave national voice to. You can still find that special undying brand of weirdness there. Updated, yes, and sometimes with the same kind of conspiracy theory you can find all over the Web, but still with room for iconic occult curiosities like Benjamin Creme, who appeared at 2 a.m. on a recent show. You know of Benjamin Creme, right, and his relation to Jesus, and you know about Benjamin Creme’s prophetic function in regard to the coming of the Super Fifth Degree Master and Teacher, the great and mighty all-powerful Maitreya, who outranks Jesus himself, right? Well, don’t feel bad if you don’t. To recognize the name Benjamin Creme, you probably have to be, as I am, an assiduous student of New Age rhetoric and literature (I believe in what Stephen Greenblatt first called a “poetics of culture” before it was renamed and mass-marketed to grad students as “the New Historicism”). Anyway, while following New Age trends and obsessions, I noticed that Benjamin Creme was always a little on the fringes of the New Age guru circuit, but the guy seemed to have staying power. He always seemed to turn up in the New Age lecture calendars, a distinguished-looking gentleman who had something to say about the Second Coming of the Christ. I recall something about Jesus having already come back, that he was living quietly in London, awaiting recognition. I somehow had the impression—mistaken, I now realize—that he was implicitly suggesting that he was Jesus (he lived in London). But I guess it was more a matter of him having inside info on the London Christ’s plans for revealing himself. It gets confusing, and I could be wrong, but after listening to his appearance on Coast to Coast AM recently, I got the impression that Benjamin Creme’s emphasis has shifted from Jesus to an entity called Maitreya, who outranks Jesus in the Ascended Master hierarchy. Benjamin Creme is apparently in “telepathic contact” with one of the Fourth Degree Masters and in sporadic contact with the Master of All Masters, this dude Maitreya, who’s planning to reveal himself and set us all straight so that all humanity will start caring and sharing like the great big family we all are. About time. I have to admit that listening to Benjamin Creme being interviewed by George Noory on Coast to Coast AM was a little frustrating. (Mr. Noory said that after Mr. Creme’s last appearance, a number of listeners called in to say they’d become physically ill afterward because they felt something coming through the radio. And there was some discussion of whether or not Maitreya might be the Antichrist). Mr. Creme was somewhat evasive about who the hell this Maitreya might be, what his deal is, why he doesn’t manifest himself already aside from sporadic appearances in other people’s bodies, like that time in Nairobi. (Mr. Creme’s Web site, in case you want to try to figure it out, is www.shareintl.org.) There was some dialogue on whether Maitreya had “suspended” his visits. Or whether he was coming “very soon,” and also what exactly he was coming for and why he was waiting. I mean, if we need help from a Teacher to get us caring and sharing, couldn’t he have shown up in, say, 1914? So there was a bit of vagueness, and I could see maybe
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe
I guess some peeps are just so stalkworthy (-:
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Looks like Share has turned into a stalker, too. :-)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
There is an old saying floating around, to the effect that where the ignorant see light, an enlightened person sees only darkness, and where an enlightened person sees light, the ignorant only sees darkness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : A comment to be expected from the Turq. We all know that psychiatric wards are full of people being treated with psychofarma for having glimpses of higher states of consciousness they are not able to integrate in daily life. Experiences any real Sadhana will also give. The reason the Turq doesn't understand this is because he is a quitter that never did any Sadhana for any length of time in his entire life, instead choosing to live in a fantasy world believing his guru is respected and welcomed by heads of state everywhere. I'm sure there is a diagnosis for such fantasies as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not disappear. Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why there is probably no hope for mankind
KK seems to have made a big impression on Barry. Strange what people obsess on. At least Barry's meanness across the board. I used to hear jokes like this in the sixth grade. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Her ass is so big that the European Space Agency has already sent a mission to try to land on it. (Posting the link rather than the photo so that Buck doesn't have a heart attack and Alex doesn't have to take it down to keep FFL family-friendly): A giant leap for all mankind! https://mobile.twitter.com/adjwilson/status/532509584762499072/photo/1 https://mobile.twitter.com/adjwilson/status/532509584762499072/photo/1 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why there is probably no hope for mankind If her ass gets any bigger there'll be a gravitational axis shift and everyone'll be revolving around her literally instead of just metaphorically. I wonder what that would do to my horoscope? Be some major eclipses for John and Bhairitu to factor in perhaps... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : They don't understand how true this is.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Killer robots should be strictly monitored
There's no need to worry about them if their warranty is the same as Ahnold's... :-) From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Killer robots should be strictly monitored The well I never news story of the week: 'Killer robots' should be strictly monitored, nations demand at UN 'Killer robots' should be strictly monitored, na... Countries warn of potential dangers of autonomous weapons systems they say are at risk of violating international and humanitarian law View on www.theguardian.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : There is an old saying floating around, to the effect that where the ignorant see light, an enlightened person sees only darkness, and where an enlightened person sees light, the ignorant only sees darkness. Yes, and it's the same thing. A watchers point of view, spun to the benefit of whoever wants to interpret it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : A comment to be expected from the Turq. We all know that psychiatric wards are full of people being treated with psychofarma for having glimpses of higher states of consciousness they are not able to integrate in daily life. Experiences any real Sadhana will also give. The reason the Turq doesn't understand this is because he is a quitter that never did any Sadhana for any length of time in his entire life, instead choosing to live in a fantasy world believing his guru is respected and welcomed by heads of state everywhere. I'm sure there is a diagnosis for such fantasies as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not disappear. Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
[FairfieldLife] wild turkeys, from yesterday [1 Attachment]
These are BIG wild birds! The flock is 5 to 10 birds.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
Right - the values of the object don't change, but will be interpreted differently, according to a person's consciousness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : There is an old saying floating around, to the effect that where the ignorant see light, an enlightened person sees only darkness, and where an enlightened person sees light, the ignorant only sees darkness. Yes, and it's the same thing. A watchers point of view, spun to the benefit of whoever wants to interpret it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : A comment to be expected from the Turq. We all know that psychiatric wards are full of people being treated with psychofarma for having glimpses of higher states of consciousness they are not able to integrate in daily life. Experiences any real Sadhana will also give. The reason the Turq doesn't understand this is because he is a quitter that never did any Sadhana for any length of time in his entire life, instead choosing to live in a fantasy world believing his guru is respected and welcomed by heads of state everywhere. I'm sure there is a diagnosis for such fantasies as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not disappear. Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
[FairfieldLife] Alien Abduction or “Accidental Awareness”?
Are your hypnotically recovered memories of alien abduction really just memories of surgery under anaesthetic? Alien Abduction or “Accidental Awareness”? http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/alien-abduction-or-accidental-awareness/?WT.mc_id=SA_syn_RDFRS http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/alien-abduction-or-accidental-awareness/?WT.mc_id=SA_syn_RDFRS Alien Abduction or “Accidental Awareness”? http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/alien-abduction-or-accidental-awareness/?WT.mc_id=SA_syn_RDFRS Scientists report on a long-ignored problem View on www.scientificameric... http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/alien-abduction-or-accidental-awareness/?WT.mc_id=SA_syn_RDFRS Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: emergence [1 Attachment]
A lovely poem, especially that last line where I stopped breathing. Yes, I thrive on the sky and its endless canvas! Here is one of the sunset a few days ago -- ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Nice how the light in the sky, the backlit clouds create a dramatic silhouette of the trees. What diversity we are surrounded with. Everywhere you look there is so much worth seeing. I often find myself gazing at the sky to take a break from the claustrophobia of city life! TO one who has been long in city pent, ’Tis very sweet to look into the fair And open face of heaven,—to breathe a prayer Full in the smile of the blue firmament. Who is more happy, when, with hearts content, Fatigued he sinks into some pleasant lair Of wavy grass, and reads a debonair And gentle tale of love and languishment? Returning home at evening, with an ear Catching the notes of Philomel,—an eye Watching the sailing cloudlet’s bright career, He mourns that day so soon has glided by: E’en like the passage of an angel’s tear That falls through the clear ether silently. (Keats) Thank you for that Keats and Seraphita.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
Excellent Turq! A good compilation showing that Benjy is a rather lame non-entity even amongst New Age freaks. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence I don't actually *have* a guru. But as we all know, Nabby does. To find out how *he* stacks up against the choosing to live in a fantasy world believing his guru is respected criterion, I searched for the most common tags applied to any reference to him on the Internet and found: Benjamin Creme Maitreya world spiritual fraud phony false world messiah charlatan There were also wonderful quotes, such as: Creme is a marginalized figure even amongst his fellow New Age devotees; most likely because of his insistence upon an imminent appearance of a self-proclaimed Messiah. Creme was always at the outskirts of the Theosophical crowd, and hardly achieved anything of importance. For example, in his monumental work on the New Age, False Dawn, Lee Penn spends a total of a paragraph and a half (and two footnotes) discussing Benjamin Creme and his Share International (pp. 314, 418, 462) – as basic an outline as possible. Likewise, esoteric scholar Wouter J. Hanegraaff, in his New Age Religion and Western Culture, devotes but one sentence on Creme (p. 101). And of course there is this wonderful description in the New York Observer, written by Ron Rosenbaum: Long John is long gone, but Coast to Coast AM is there to keep you in touch with the night side of the culture that Long John first gave national voice to. You can still find that special undying brand of weirdness there. Updated, yes, and sometimes with the same kind of conspiracy theory you can find all over the Web, but still with room for iconic occult curiosities like Benjamin Creme, who appeared at 2 a.m. on a recent show. You know of Benjamin Creme, right, and his relation to Jesus, and you know about Benjamin Creme’s prophetic function in regard to the coming of the Super Fifth Degree Master and Teacher, the great and mighty all-powerful Maitreya, who outranks Jesus himself, right? Well, don’t feel bad if you don’t. To recognize the name Benjamin Creme, you probably have to be, as I am, an assiduous student of New Age rhetoric and literature (I believe in what Stephen Greenblatt first called a “poetics of culture” before it was renamed and mass-marketed to grad students as “the New Historicism”). Anyway, while following New Age trends and obsessions, I noticed that Benjamin Creme was always a little on the fringes of the New Age guru circuit, but the guy seemed to have staying power. He always seemed to turn up in the New Age lecture calendars, a distinguished-looking gentleman who had something to say about the Second Coming of the Christ. I recall something about Jesus having already come back, that he was living quietly in London, awaiting recognition. I somehow had the impression—mistaken, I now realize—that he was implicitly suggesting that he was Jesus (he lived in London). But I guess it was more a matter of him having inside info on the London Christ’s plans for revealing himself. It gets confusing, and I could be wrong, but after listening to his appearance on Coast to Coast AM recently, I got the impression that Benjamin Creme’s emphasis has shifted from Jesus to an entity called Maitreya, who outranks Jesus in the Ascended Master hierarchy. Benjamin Creme is apparently in “telepathic contact” with one of the Fourth Degree Masters and in sporadic contact with the Master of All Masters, this dude Maitreya, who’s planning to reveal himself and set us all straight so that all humanity will start caring and sharing like the great big family we all are. About time. I have to admit that listening to Benjamin Creme being interviewed by George Noory on Coast to Coast AM was a little frustrating. (Mr. Noory said that after Mr. Creme’s last appearance, a number of listeners called in to say they’d become physically ill afterward because they felt something coming through the radio. And there was some discussion of whether or not Maitreya might be the Antichrist). Mr. Creme was somewhat evasive about who the hell this Maitreya might be, what his deal is, why he doesn’t manifest himself already aside from sporadic appearances in other people’s bodies, like that time in Nairobi. (Mr. Creme’s Web site, in case you want to try to figure it out, is www.shareintl.org.) There was some dialogue on whether Maitreya had “suspended” his visits. Or whether he was coming “very soon,” and also what exactly he was coming for and why he was waiting. I mean, if we need help from a Teacher to get us caring and sharing, couldn’t he have shown up in, say, 1914? So there was a bit of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Barry, You're raising a different issue. Personally, I don't have any problems with women becoming priests, bishops, or leaders of a spiritual movement. But there are churches in the US, particularly the Catholic church, that are entrenched in tradition for having men only as priests and leaders. It will take some time to change this attitude. We may not see it in our life time. But there are a few Christian churches who have stepped forward to ordain women as priests. The Anglican Church in some places has allowed women to be ordained as priests, bishops and deacons. If men in that church can let go of the 'men only' rule then men in any religion can do the same. Apparently, the males seem to want to be able to sport these cool headgear and robes exclusively in most religions at the moment. This head piece easily rivals the rajas'. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Share, IMO the church is saying that all women have a choice. They can have sex and children which is perfectly acceptable and human. Or be a virgin like Mary which is acceptable as well if that is their preference. What they are NOT free to do is become priests, and help to lead a spiritual movement. It's just like Maharishi's organization. John doesn't see the issue because he's as much of a male chauvinist pig as he is a religious nut.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gorgeous Mosques
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I felt the same way, as if the art serves as a bridge of the deepest subjective, into the outside world. Yes, but then art brings it back again into the depths of the inner spaces. Awareness travels outwards to perceive the object, the art and hopefully the art takes you past itself or actually boomerangs your awareness back toward the deeper parts of your perception. Art, for me, always has to take me somewhere - even if it is just back into myself.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gorgeous Mosques
Great examples!!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I felt the same way, as if the art serves as a bridge of the deepest subjective, into the outside world. Yes, but then art brings it back again into the depths of the inner spaces. Awareness travels outwards to perceive the object, the art and hopefully the art takes you past itself or actually boomerangs your awareness back toward the deeper parts of your perception. Art, for me, always has to take me somewhere - even if it is just back into myself.
[FairfieldLife] Re: wild turkeys, from yesterday
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : These are BIG wild birds! The flock is 5 to 10 birds. Those are good looking turkeys considering turkeys are just one step away from being as ugly as a buzzard or vulture. Wild turkeys, so cool. I always thought they were much smaller and the domesticated breeds were those giant plump ones. Here is an image of a wild turkey flying - who ever gets an aeriel view of one of these? Rare, I'd say. And why those extravagant colors on the head? Incredible. Isn't it wonderful the imagination of God? If you were to take a pallet of the average painter you'd have all of these hues present - literally hundreds of variations of pigment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
Nabby, fun coincidence that you are talking about this and I had an experience
in the Dome this morning that I've never had before. My eyes were closed and in
my mind's eye, I saw all the other women as ovals of white light.
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into
consciousness, literally. Try itYou don't even have to look very deeply.
Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a
light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the
quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And
like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary
object than humans to resolve.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children
John, in some wise traditions, sex isn't just for producing progeny. It's also
for pleasure and healing and even becoming realized. Go figger!
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children
Share,
IMO the church is saying that all women have a choice. They can have sex and
children which is perfectly acceptable and human. Or be a virgin like Mary
which is acceptable as well if that is their preference.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
John, basically the Church has placed at the pinnacle of worship, a woman who
became a mother without having sex. I don't think the message is very subtle!
From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children
Share,
From what I've seen, Catholic women are having sex and children. So, what's
wrong with that?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
John, imo the problem with the Virgin Mary is that by being both a virgin and a
mother, she is used to denigrate feminine sexuality. Not healthy, to say the
least.
A cool book I read about Mary stated that she and her parents were Essenes.
From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children
Share,
We should all keep a close eye on what Pope Francis is saying these days. Some
reporters have stated that Pope Francis believes the Virgin Mary is equal to
God and that Jesus has been demoted. If true, that would really shake all of
the Christian Churches.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Richard and John, imo, what we're seeing now is patriarchal spirituality in its
death throes and the re emergence of the feminine divine as co creator.
Plus which there may have been another Mary, one who was a prostitute. Or maybe
these various Marys, virgin, wife and prostitute are aspects of the collective
psyche.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children
On 11/13/2014 1:43 AM, jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] wrote:
This idea is similar to the plot in the Da Vinci Codenovel.
For nearly 2,000 years, MaryMagdalene was believed to be aprostitute who
repented and became a disciple of Jesus, but, thetruth about her is finally
emerging. She was almost certainlynot a prostitute, but a wealthy woman whose
support helped earlyChristianity to survive.
Mary Magdalene could have been Jesus' concubine or even hiswife. The Bible
doesn't say what her realtionship was with Jesusexcept that she was a devoted
follower and supporter. The early Gnostic Gospelshave no hesitation describing
the relationship between MaryMagdalene and Jesus.
The death of Jesus could have been a plot todeceive the authorities. Maybe it
was a robber that was hung onthe cross and maybe Jesus escaped with Mary to go
live inFrance. Go figure.
Read more:
'Venus in Sackcloth'
by Marjorie Malvern
Penguin, 1995
That leaves the people to ask: who were the descendantsof Jesus and Mary, and
where are they now?
Also, the involvement of Mary Magdalene as co-messiahwould completely change
the present Christian theology. As such, I believe the orthodoxy would
completely rejectthe validity of the manuscript.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,s3raphita@... wrote :
Mary Magdalene was aco-messiah, the wife of Jesus and the motherof his
children, according to a translation ofan ancient manuscript.
http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b
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Re: [FairfieldLife] wild turkeys, from yesterday
Thanks, Fleetwood and obviously these guys don't know it's less than 2 weeks to
Thanksgiving. They should be hiding! From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
But Bhairitu we humans are pretty good at using anything to keep ourselves distracted, not just work. I think what's really scary for the powers that be, is if people get free of fear and the concomitant need to distract. Then we won't be controllable at all! From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity Work is not the purpose of life. It's real purpose is to keep you distracted so you don't overthrow the king. Who elected him boss anyway? At best there is probably only a couple hours a day of work that needs to be done. Some of the more tedious and subhuman jobs can be automated anyway. When I was in India, businessmen were complaining workers would only work two hours a day. That's all they needed to survive. Locally an Indian engineer and I discussed the problem. He thought it was also due to the fact that they couldn't take more than a couple hours of the heat in the work places. Parcheesi anyone? On 11/08/2014 08:04 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: There's always more work to be done! People may need to develope new or different skills. Craftsmen that build or repair buggies aren't in big demand these day, but people that can make or repair cars are. And people may need to compete for the best jobs. I'll agree, education doesn't guarantee a damned thing, but I can almost guarantee that a lack of education can almost guarantee poverty. Higher education doesn't have to be a four year college/university and advanced degrees. It can simply be a good trade school and learning a valued skill. Hell, having a good attitude and work ethic can take some people pretty far! From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity Thing is that many people who dropped out of high school may turn out to be very aggressive and fortuitous. Education does not really guarantee an income. I went to college to learn things not to get a piece of paper that would guarantee me an income. Being a professional musician was a tough road to hoe and a very political one at that. It's not so much what you know but who you know. So answer me this: if we have all the workers we need and there is no other work to be done what happens to the rest of the populace? Are they expected to starve? Another thing: many of the people out of work aren't high school dropouts, they aren't even college dropouts, they aren't even inexperienced. In fact many have a lot of senior experience. They are just shut out of the market because they aren't cheap enough or too old. Many of these people are brighter than the richest of the rich and so at some point they may make sure there is hell to pay. And they can do it. On 11/08/2014 07:03 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yeah, there's plenty of money hoarders plus plenty to go around ... for those that want to work for it. Problem is, people that never finished high school think they deserve a house in the burbs, two cars,a television set in every room, an Obama phone and make at least 15 dollars an hour flipping burgers because that's all they're quailified to do.Soviet citizens had plenty of money that they hoarded but they didn't have anything to buy with it. No capitalism , no goodies to buy. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity And with the money hoarders you get plenty of nothing to go around except the for the money hoarders. They wind up with the whole pie. Is that right? There is a middle ground but to get there the rich will have to relinquish their control and much of their wealth. Will they do it or remain the most selfish people in the history of the world? On 11/08/2014 06:02 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: So we all end up like the Soviet Union and pre-capitalist China. Plenty of nothing to go around for everybody. Did you ever see or hear about the Soviet era enviornment? Plenty of mess to clean up but no money to do it. But then we will *make* them do it... for mother Russia! From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity Capitalism is like candy and the rich like spoiled kids. They just want more and more candy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
I used to always see the others in the room during flying, like that - had my eyes closed, but everyone showed up clearly, and proportionately, as light beings. Always turned into that, myself, when flying. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nabby, fun coincidence that you are talking about this and I had an experience in the Dome this morning that I've never had before. My eyes were closed and in my mind's eye, I saw all the other women as ovals of white light. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 4:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
[FairfieldLife] Size of Comet Relative to LA
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
On 11/14/2014 2:50 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */Prove to me that there is or ever has been such a thing as an enlightened being. I'll wait. /* /* */ /Perception is reality- there are no other experiences except those that are subjective. Almost everything we know is based on verbal testimony what someone TOLD US. There is no knowing outside of conscious experience - knowledge is structured in consciousness. Everyone is special by virtue of being human with a self-conscious mind. The proof that everyone is enlightened is consciousness itself. The only reason you don't have the experience of being enlightened is because you are not Self-realized - you are ignorant. You didn't listen to your teachers and you apparently have not even read any wisdom books. Go figure. / */ /* */The thing is, John, you can't do it. You believe in enlightenment for the same reason you believe that these works of fiction are wisdom books, because someone you chose to believe TOLD YOU. That does *NOT* constitute proof. /* */ /* */Me, I believe that the subjective experience that some call enlightenment exists. I believe this because I've experienced it for weeks and months at a time. But *having experienced it*, I can say that it was JUST ANOTHER EXPERIENCE. It did *not* make me special, and it doesn 't make anyone *else* special, either. It doesn't make anything they say any more accurate or cosmic or correct or valuable, any more than a profound drug-induced or psychosis-induced subjective experience does./* */ /* */You don't want to believe this because you have invested decades of your life pursuing practices that you believe will make you special. And after all these decades you are really *desperate* to be special. My advice is to relax, because it is never going to happen. Even if you have experiences that convince you that you're enlightened, no one (except the gullible idiots on the Batgap Forum) will treat you any differently, no one will think you're wise, and no one will be any more impressed by you than they ever have been. /* */And if you write a book based on your experiences, it definitely won't be a wisdom book. :-)/*
[FairfieldLife] Bart Marshall: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 11/14/2014
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Size of Comet Relative to LA
LOL, to me it looks like a giant wooden, Dutch shoe! turq's revenge on LA?!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
Cool! What's also fun about this experience, is that there's only one row of
peeps in front of me, the huge majority of them are behind me. Nonetheless, in
my mind's eye I saw those ovals of light anyway!
Now if I could only get the neighborhood dog to stop barking! What idiots leave
a dog out on such a cold day?!
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I used to always see the others in the room during flying, like that - had
my eyes closed, but everyone showed up clearly, and proportionately, as light
beings. Always turned into that, myself, when flying.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Nabby, fun coincidence that you are talking about this and I had an experience
in the Dome this morning that I've never had before. My eyes were closed and in
my mind's eye, I saw all the other women as ovals of white light.
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If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness,
literally. Try itYou don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person
for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or
blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and
the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be
anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to
resolve.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Chemical-psychology -- now this is my kind of research!
The research mattered to me, because they were seeing that there's a difference between consciousness and awareness -- BIOCHEMICALLY SPEAKING. This to me is major. To pursue this line of exploration could yield some clear proofs that awareness is ooga-booga that none-the-less 100% controls ALL processes anywhere WITHOUT ANY INSTRUMENTALITY. Pure magic. Trivial decisions are use for experimenting, because they can be controlled for variables. The hard thinking you're putting on the table differs by degree not kind. Of the thousands of thoughts one might have before asking someone to marry one, all were, presumably, based upon the same mechanisms. Free will can't be said to be present if consciousness is absent. For instance, a person in a coma might thrash around and break a vase next to the bed -- by your reckoning, that was a mindful act.and same deal for tons of other examples which folks will disavow as my purposeful act. And what of all the autonomic processes? Are they too our actions? Clearly the word mine becomes the issue. Identity with processes, no matter how subtle, is the primal error. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Interesting (really!). Re the original experiment that showed a readiness potential occurs in the human brain just before ‘spontaneous’ actions. In fact, this brain event happens even before we are aware of deciding to act.: Well yes, but as many critics have pointed out the kinds of decisions that were being monitored were pretty trivial (eg, choosing whether or not to flex a finger). It didn't involve the kind of hard thinking you'd have to do if you were deciding whether to get married or make a career change. On a more philosophical point: suppose it is true that your brain decides things and you only become aware of what you've already decided to do a second or so later? It is still *you* - your deeper self/your unconscious - that made that decision. So what if your conscious self only learns what choice you freely decided upon slightly later? The original research is intriguing but not as world shattering as the scientists involved are claiming. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2014/11/12/rats-free-will/#.VGVxi_nF-Sp http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2014/11/12/rats-free-will/#.VGVxi_nF-Sp
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children
Re The Church has placed at the pinnacle of worship, a woman who became a mother without having sex. I don't think the message is very subtle!: On 11/13/2014 9:44 PM, s3raphita wrote: Nice one Share! /Just for the record, which Mary are we talking about? Maybe it's time to review the names mentioned in the NT:// // //Mary the mother of Jesus, was the child of Jewish parents Joachim and Anne and was born in Sepphoris in Galilee. She was born around 18 or 20 BCE and during her childhood she lived in Nazareth, where she became engaged to a carpenter by the name of Joseph. / ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, basically the Church has placed at the pinnacle of worship, a woman who became a mother without having sex. I don't think the message is very subtle! *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:55 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children Share, From what I've seen, Catholic women are having sex and children. So, what's wrong with that? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, imo the problem with the Virgin Mary is that by being both a virgin and a mother, she is used to denigrate feminine sexuality. Not healthy, to say the least. A cool book I read about Mary stated that she and her parents were Essenes. *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:11 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children Share, We should all keep a close eye on what Pope Francis is saying these days. Some reporters have stated that Pope Francis believes the Virgin Mary is equal to God and that Jesus has been demoted. If true, that would really shake all of the Christian Churches. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard and John, imo, what we're seeing now is patriarchal spirituality in its death throes and the re emergence of the feminine divine as co creator. Plus which there may have been another Mary, one who was a prostitute. Or maybe these various Marys, virgin, wife and prostitute are aspects of the collective psyche. *From:* 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:13 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children On 11/13/2014 1:43 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: This idea is similar to the plot in the Da Vinci Code novel. / For nearly 2,000 years, Mary Magdalene// was believed to be a prostitute who repented and became a disciple of Jesus, but, the truth about her is finally emerging. She was almost certainly not a prostitute, but a wealthy woman whose support helped early Christianity to survive. Mary Magdalene could have been Jesus' concubine or even his wife. The Bible doesn't say what her realtionship was with Jesus except that she was a devoted follower and supporter. ///The early Gnostic Gospels have no hesitation describing the relationship between Mary Magdalene and Jesus. /The death of Jesus could have been a plot to deceive the authorities. Maybe it was a robber that was hung on the cross and maybe Jesus escaped with Mary to go live in France. Go figure. Read more: /'Venus in Sackcloth' by Marjorie Malvern Penguin, 1995 That leaves the people to ask: who were the descendants of Jesus and Mary, and where are they now? Also, the involvement of Mary Magdalene as co-messiah would completely change the present Christian theology. As such, I believe the orthodoxy would completely reject the validity of the manuscript. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : Mary Magdalene was a co-messiah, the wife of Jesus and the mother of his children, according to a translation of an ancient manuscript. http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
The Turq hasn't had any spiritual experiences in his whole life. Forty-five years ago he experienced a few days of witnessing in Fiuggji, but that's only a preliminary experience. Yet he likes to brag about it even today, decades later. Later he had some hallucinations about his Buddhist-guru, the Lenz-guy who killed himself while wearing a dog-collar around his neck, levitating. And that's it. The fact is that the Turq-fellow never had any spiritual experiences at all. Yet he judge others, what a phony. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/14/2014 2:50 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Prove to me that there is or ever has been such a thing as an enlightened being. I'll wait. Perception is reality- there are no other experiences except those that are subjective. Almost everything we know is based on verbal testimony what someone TOLD US. There is no knowing outside of conscious experience - knowledge is structured in consciousness. Everyone is special by virtue of being human with a self-conscious mind. The proof that everyone is enlightened is consciousness itself. The only reason you don't have the experience of being enlightened is because you are not Self-realized - you are ignorant. You didn't listen to your teachers and you apparently have not even read any wisdom books. Go figure. The thing is, John, you can't do it. You believe in enlightenment for the same reason you believe that these works of fiction are wisdom books, because someone you chose to believe TOLD YOU. That does *NOT* constitute proof. Me,I believe that the subjective experience that some call enlightenment exists. I believe this because I've experienced it for weeks and months at a time. But *having experienced it*, I can say that it was JUST ANOTHER EXPERIENCE. It did *not* make me special, and it doesn 't make anyone *else* special, either. It doesn't make anything they say any more accurate or cosmic or correct or valuable, any more than a profound drug-induced or psychosis-induced subjective experience does. Youdon't want to believe this because you have invested decades of your life pursuing practices that you believe will make you special. And after all these decades you are really *desperate* to be special. My advice is to relax, because it is never going to happen. Even if you have experiences that convince you that you're enlightened, no one (except the gullible idiots on the Batgap Forum) will treat you any differently, no one will think you're wise, and no one will be any more impressed by you than they ever have been. And if you write a book based on your experiences, it definitely won't be a wisdom book. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
That's nice Share. Before lift-off my body would always transform itself into a ball of light. As easily could be seen by others. Needless to say, the closed minded didn't see anything :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I used to always see the others in the room during flying, like that - had my eyes closed, but everyone showed up clearly, and proportionately, as light beings. Always turned into that, myself, when flying. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nabby, fun coincidence that you are talking about this and I had an experience in the Dome this morning that I've never had before. My eyes were closed and in my mind's eye, I saw all the other women as ovals of white light. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 4:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
prolonged staring at an Object Was this even mentioned in my post ? Your reasoning is superficial and silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com What Nabby is describing is called retinal fatique, prolonged staring at an object without the eyes moving exhausts the chemistry in the retina responsible for the detection of light. If when this happens and you look away at a light surface, you see a negative image, colours reversed that persists for a while (after image) while the chemistry refreshes. The eyes also do not remain completely still but naturally saccade, which partially helps to prevent retinal fatigue when one is not deliberately staring at something, which reduces but does not eliminate the saccade. Because of the scacade, the after image formed by staring does not perfectly line up with the object which can account for edge effects around the object viewe I suppose this could be mistaken for some kind of 'spiritual' experience by the uninitiated, but it is just 'looking at something'. Spiritual experiences are just artefacts of the nervous system releasing prior conditioned responses and a person feels, for a while, clearer, freer etc., but eventually realises or rather actually accommodates to the new clearer, freer experience which then just seems normal, everyday. Eventually a realisation comes that the only thing that exists is normal everyday experience, minus certain ideas about what normal everyday experience is. You just live it, you do not think about what it is supposed to be. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not disappear. Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not disappear. Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
On 11/14/2014 9:47 AM, Share Long wrote: But Bhairitu we humans are pretty good at using anything to keep ourselves distracted, not just work. I think what's really scary for the powers that be, is if people get free of fear and the concomitant need to distract. Then we won't be controllable at all! /The purpose of work is to eat; then eating becomes play./ *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, November 9, 2014 11:34 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity Work is not the purpose of life. It's real purpose is to keep you distracted so you don't overthrow the king. Who elected him boss anyway? At best there is probably only a couple hours a day of work that needs to be done. Some of the more tedious and subhuman jobs can be automated anyway. When I was in India, businessmen were complaining workers would only work two hours a day. That's all they needed to survive. Locally an Indian engineer and I discussed the problem. He thought it was also due to the fact that they couldn't take more than a couple hours of the heat in the work places. Parcheesi anyone? On 11/08/2014 08:04 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: There's always more work to be done! People may need to develope new or different skills. Craftsmen that build or repair buggies aren't in big demand these day, but people that can make or repair cars are. And people may need to compete for the best jobs. I'll agree, education doesn't guarantee a damned thing, but I can almost guarantee that a lack of education can almost guarantee poverty. Higher education doesn't have to be a four year college/university and advanced degrees. It can simply be a good trade school and learning a valued skill. Hell, having a good attitude and work ethic can take some people pretty far! *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity Thing is that many people who dropped out of high school may turn out to be very aggressive and fortuitous. Education does not really guarantee an income. I went to college to learn things not to get a piece of paper that would guarantee me an income. Being a professional musician was a tough road to hoe and a very political one at that. It's not so much what you know but who you know. So answer me this: if we have all the workers we need and there is no other work to be done what happens to the rest of the populace? Are they expected to starve? Another thing: many of the people out of work aren't high school dropouts, they aren't even college dropouts, they aren't even inexperienced. In fact many have a lot of senior experience. They are just shut out of the market because they aren't cheap enough or too old. Many of these people are brighter than the richest of the rich and so at some point they may make sure there is hell to pay. And they can do it. On 11/08/2014 07:03 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yeah, there's plenty of money hoarders plus plenty to go around ... for those that want to work for it. Problem is, people that never finished high school think they deserve a house in the burbs, two cars,a television set in every room, an Obama phone and make at least 15 dollars an hour flipping burgers because that's all they're quailified to do.Soviet citizens had plenty of money that they hoarded but they didn't have anything to buy with it. No capitalism , no goodies to buy. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 6:47 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity And with the money hoarders you get plenty of nothing to go around except the for the money hoarders. They wind up with the whole pie. Is that right? There is a middle ground but to get there the rich will have to relinquish their control and much of their wealth. Will they do it or remain the most selfish people in the history of the world? On 11/08/2014 06:02 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: So we all end up like the Soviet Union and pre-capitalist China. Plenty of
Re: [FairfieldLife] wild turkeys, from yesterday [1 Attachment]
There are hunters out, down in the canyons, and this neighborhood is a safe haven for the turkeys and the deer. Oddly, the turkeys became very visible, now that Thanksgiving is approaching. Foggy again this morning - living in the clouds. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Thanks, Fleetwood and obviously these guys don't know it's less than 2 weeks to Thanksgiving. They should be hiding! From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] wild turkeys, from yesterday [1 Attachment] These are BIG wild birds! The flock is 5 to 10 birds.
Re: [FairfieldLife] wild turkeys, from yesterday
They are around here too, especially just down the block. They stand their ground if you approach them. On 11/14/2014 08:50 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: [Attachment(s) #TopText from fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] included below] There are hunters out, down in the canyons, and this neighborhood is a safe haven for the turkeys and the deer. Oddly, the turkeys became very visible, now that Thanksgiving is approaching. Foggy again this morning - living in the clouds. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Thanks, Fleetwood and obviously these guys don't know it's less than 2 weeks to Thanksgiving. They should be hiding! *From:* fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, November 14, 2014 7:23 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] wild turkeys, from yesterday [1 Attachment] These are BIG wild birds! The flock is 5 to 10 birds.
Re: [FairfieldLife] wild turkeys, from yesterday
I wouldn't want to mess with one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : They are around here too, especially just down the block. They stand their ground if you approach them. On 11/14/2014 08:50 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: There are hunters out, down in the canyons, and this neighborhood is a safe haven for the turkeys and the deer. Oddly, the turkeys became very visible, now that Thanksgiving is approaching. Foggy again this morning - living in the clouds. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Thanks, Fleetwood and obviously these guys don't know it's less than 2 weeks to Thanksgiving. They should be hiding! From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] wild turkeys, from yesterday [1 Attachment] These are BIG wild birds! The flock is 5 to 10 birds.
[FairfieldLife] Last chance for Philae....
With power running out they are going to try and jiggle the lander upright using its onboard tools. If it doesn't work the poor thing will be dead by this time tomorrow... Rosetta mission: Philae lander tries drilling and hammering to free itself http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/philae-comet-lander-drills-hammers-rosetta http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/philae-comet-lander-drills-hammers-rosetta Rosetta mission: Philae lander tries drilling and hammer... http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/philae-comet-lander-drills-hammers-rosetta Tools’ action will cause an opposite reaction in Rosetta’s Philae lander, perhaps nudging it into a more sunlit position View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/philae-comet-lander-drills-hammers-rosetta Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
yeah, it is a non-local seeing. I sometimes put attention on the dog to see if I can figure out what to do, and sometimes I just have to stop my mind from barking in response. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Cool! What's also fun about this experience, is that there's only one row of peeps in front of me, the huge majority of them are behind me. Nonetheless, in my mind's eye I saw those ovals of light anyway! Now if I could only get the neighborhood dog to stop barking! What idiots leave a dog out on such a cold day?! From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence I used to always see the others in the room during flying, like that - had my eyes closed, but everyone showed up clearly, and proportionately, as light beings. Always turned into that, myself, when flying. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nabby, fun coincidence that you are talking about this and I had an experience in the Dome this morning that I've never had before. My eyes were closed and in my mind's eye, I saw all the other women as ovals of white light. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 4:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
What kind of experiences have you had that is comparable to the enlightened beings? On 11/13/2014 5:12 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I've been there dude. I've talked about it before on here. TM blew my mind for a while, I saw the light, experienced the oneness that is also everything else at the same time but without changing it's own nature. Good trip, not a good long term proposition perhaps. */Prove to me that there is or ever has been such a thing as an enlightened being. I'll wait. - TurquoiseB /* I can see why religions get started over it though, it's easy to think that what is happening inside accurately reflects what's happening outside, and when you get a change of perception like that you might think you are seeing a deeper level of external reality but what we see of the world is created in our heads anyway so changes to that are changes in how our consciousness is created neurophysiologically. */You believe in enlightenment for the same reason you believe that these works of fiction are wisdom books, because someone you chose to believe TOLD YOU. That does *NOT* constitute proof. /**/*/- TurquoiseB /* /* I don't think I'd make a very inspiring guru but people reacted differently to me when I was like it, bit of ultra blissed darshan for the guys at work. Maybe I would have got promoted quicker if it had hung around. But I went to live with the TMO because of experiences like this and they never came back. LOL! */...I believe that the subjective experience that some call enlightenment exists. I believe this because I've experienced it for weeks and months at a time. But *having experienced it*, I can say that it was JUST ANOTHER EXPERIENCE. It did *not* make me special, and it doesn 't make anyone *else* special, either. /**/*/- TurquoiseB /*/* The rest is history... */relax, because it is never going to happen. Even if you have experiences that convince you that you're enlightened, no one (except the gullible idiots on the Batgap Forum) will treat you any differently, no one will think you're wise, and no one will be any more impressed by you than they ever have been. /**/*/*/- TurquoiseB /*/* /*
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe
On 11/14/2014 7:04 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I guess some peeps are just so stalkworthy (-: /He is infamous for posting all over Google Groups and Yahoo Groups - yet he seems paranoid at the same time. Cognitive dissonance. Go figure./ *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, November 14, 2014 6:59 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe Looks like Share has turned into a stalker, too. :-) *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, November 14, 2014 1:39 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe NM mag has the scoop on B?! - Forwarded Message - *From:* New Mexico Magazine newmexicomagaz...@gmail.com *To:* sharelon...@yahoo.com *Sent:* Friday, November 14, 2014 12:34 AM *Subject:* Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe Get more /New Mexico Magazine/ on Pinterest http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=fd8bfac814e=e516b9d39f, Facebook http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=8bb08a3215e=e516b9d39f, and Twitter http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=7dcf639b99e=e516b9d39f. View this email in your browser http://us4.campaign-archive2.com/?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=0fb9665e80e=e516b9d39f alt http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=6f21f39a7ce=e516b9d39f alt http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=d62cac7aa8e=e516b9d39f alt http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=a9f5f88a61e=e516b9d39f alt http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=2cf1d95441e=e516b9d39f Western NM Road Trip http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=f4d651061fe=e516b9d39f Traipse across lava fields, find turquoise treasures, and relish the local fare on the scenic route between Grants and Gallup. alt http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=8ddd18d214e=e516b9d39f alt http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=031f2f72f1e=e516b9d39f Home for the Holidays and Beyond http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=598d83d225e=e516b9d39f Chef John Rivera Sedlar's comes home to Santa Fe to open a restaurant...and to spend the holidays with Mom. alt http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=1060021f33e=e516b9d39f What's Happening http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=0dbb2401aae=e516b9d39f Infuse your December with piñon smoke, ski slopes, arts events, and Yuletide cheer, New Mexico-style. alt http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=357ee9b492e=e516b9d39f Facebook http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=d8b8d2c54ce=e516b9d39f Twitter http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=a01c80c288e=e516b9d39f Website http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=943384bff6e=e516b9d39f Google Plus http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=cc5a5c400ce=e516b9d39f Instagram http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=dfb161f6bae=e516b9d39f Find /New Mexico Magazine/ at a nearby newsstand, http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=a16e39897be=e516b9d39f or sign up for home delivery http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=f381b478d3e=e516b9d39f. Single issues and subscriptions are also available on iPad http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=3c7ab4b639e=e516b9d39f and iPhone http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=a7f3e7ce74e=e516b9d39f. /Copyright © 2014 New Mexico Magazine, All rights reserved./ You are receiving this email because you opted in at our website, or during an online store purchase or during the subscription process. We thank you and appreciate all of our loyal readers and store customers. *Our mailing
[FairfieldLife] Re: Netherlands: the crime of questioning
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : While I may agree that trying to stifle free speech is a bad idea, it's good for people to know that this particular Ass Clown has as much credibility in the Netherlands as the now-dead leader of the Westboro Baptist Church did in America. When he supposedly innocently asked Do you want more Moroccans? it was *intended* to incite hatred, as he has done more overtly on many other occasions. The question was as innocent as asking Have you stopped beating your wife? Yes, but the issue is: who decides whether or not Wilders is an Ass Clown; who decides whether or not he has any credibility; who decides whether or not he's inciting hatred? I say that I'll decide for myself, thank you very much. I don't want the state, the law and the police deciding for me. That's why hate-speech laws are essentially illiberal. The Netherlands definitely has a few bigots and Ass Clowns like this one, but *on the whole* common sense tends to win out in the end. It's just that the Ass Clowns capture news headlines and make it seem as if they are more important and more numerous than they are. From: emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 2:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Netherlands: the crime of questioning Netherlands: When the Questions Become the Crime http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4819/netherlands-free-speech http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4819/netherlands-free-speech Netherlands: When the Questions Become the Crime http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4819/netherlands-free-speech More problematic is that it reaches a point where discussion or debate is impossible because the questions themselves become a crime. Such law... View on www.gatestoneinsti... http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4819/netherlands-free-speech Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Last chance for Philae....
They have 10 year old technology. Just think about how much our technology has advanced in the last 10 years. ;-) On 11/14/2014 09:25 AM, salyavin808 wrote: With power running out they are going to try and jiggle the lander upright using its onboard tools. If it doesn't work the poor thing will be dead by this time tomorrow... Rosetta mission: Philae lander tries drilling and hammering to free itself http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/philae-comet-lander-drills-hammers-rosetta image http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/philae-comet-lander-drills-hammers-rosetta Rosetta mission: Philae lander tries drilling and hammer... http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/philae-comet-lander-drills-hammers-rosetta Tools’ action will cause an opposite reaction in Rosetta’s Philae lander, perhaps nudging it into a more sunlit position View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/philae-comet-lander-drills-hammers-rosetta Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chemical-psychology -- now this is my kind of research!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The research mattered to me, because they were seeing that there's a difference between consciousness and awareness -- BIOCHEMICALLY SPEAKING. This to me is major. To pursue this line of exploration could yield some clear proofs that awareness is ooga-booga that none-the-less 100% controls ALL processes anywhere WITHOUT ANY INSTRUMENTALITY. Pure magic. Trivial decisions are use for experimenting, because they can be controlled for variables. The hard thinking you're putting on the table differs by degree not kind. Of the thousands of thoughts one might have before asking someone to marry one, all were, presumably, based upon the same mechanisms. Free will can't be said to be present if consciousness is absent. For instance, a person in a coma might thrash around and break a vase next to the bed -- by your reckoning, that was a mindful act.and same deal for tons of other examples which folks will disavow as my purposeful act. And what of all the autonomic processes? Are they too our actions? When I first glanced at your reply I read this sentence as: For instance, a person in a come might thrash around and break a vase next to the bed. I thought we were being given a insight into your energetic sex life. Clearly the word mine becomes the issue. Identity with processes, no matter how subtle, is the primal error. I think I would claim that when, for example, I make a Freudian slip (as I did when I read the sentence above!) it is indeed me who's making the slip; I'm not being compelled by anything outside me (like a gun held to my head). So my take on my identity is that it does include my autonomic processes. It's me who is making my heart beat. Mine is indeed the issue. We can get lost in semantic issues here and think we disagree with each other while actually agreeing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Interesting (really!). Re the original experiment that showed a readiness potential occurs in the human brain just before ‘spontaneous’ actions. In fact, this brain event happens even before we are aware of deciding to act.: Well yes, but as many critics have pointed out the kinds of decisions that were being monitored were pretty trivial (eg, choosing whether or not to flex a finger). It didn't involve the kind of hard thinking you'd have to do if you were deciding whether to get married or make a career change. On a more philosophical point: suppose it is true that your brain decides things and you only become aware of what you've already decided to do a second or so later? It is still *you* - your deeper self/your unconscious - that made that decision. So what if your conscious self only learns what choice you freely decided upon slightly later? The original research is intriguing but not as world shattering as the scientists involved are claiming. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2014/11/12/rats-free-will/#.VGVxi_nF-Sp http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2014/11/12/rats-free-will/#.VGVxi_nF-Sp
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
You mean a phoney like a guy who blabbers about how great TM is, even though he can't become an authentic recertified TM teacher since he years ago declared his belief in UFOs, is a follower of Benjy Creme and other stuff the Movement frowns on and ducks his head and hems and haws when someone asks how come he isn't teaching TM??? A phony like that? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence) The Turq hasn't had any spiritual experiences in his whole life. Forty-five years ago he experienced a few days of witnessing in Fiuggji, but that's only a preliminary experience. Yet he likes to brag about it even today, decades later. Later he had some hallucinations about his Buddhist-guru, the Lenz-guy who killed himself while wearing a dog-collar around his neck, levitating. And that's it. The fact is that the Turq-fellow never had any spiritual experiences at all. Yet he judge others, what a phony. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/14/2014 2:50 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Prove to me that there is or ever has been such a thing as an enlightened being. I'll wait. Perception is reality- there are no other experiences except those that are subjective. Almost everything we know is based on verbal testimony what someone TOLD US. There is no knowing outside of conscious experience - knowledge is structured in consciousness. Everyone is special by virtue of being human with a self-conscious mind. The proof that everyone is enlightened is consciousness itself. The only reason you don't have the experience of being enlightened is because you are not Self-realized - you are ignorant. You didn't listen to your teachers and you apparently have not even read any wisdom books. Go figure. The thing is, John, you can't do it. You believe in enlightenment for the same reason you believe that these works of fiction are wisdom books, because someone you chose to believe TOLD YOU. That does *NOT* constitute proof. Me,I believe that the subjective experience that some call enlightenment exists. I believe this because I've experienced it for weeks and months at a time. But *having experienced it*, I can say that it was JUST ANOTHER EXPERIENCE. It did *not* make me special, and it doesn 't make anyone *else* special, either. It doesn't make anything they say any more accurate or cosmic or correct or valuable, any more than a profound drug-induced or psychosis-induced subjective experience does. Youdon't want to believe this because you have invested decades of your life pursuing practices that you believe will make you special. And after all these decades you are really *desperate* to be special. My advice is to relax, because it is never going to happen. Even if you have experiences that convince you that you're enlightened, no one (except the gullible idiots on the Batgap Forum) will treat you any differently, no one will think you're wise, and no one will be any more impressed by you than they ever have been. And if you write a book based on your experiences, it definitely won't be a wisdom book. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: Kali Yuga Ending in 2025 (?) ~ Unraveling the Mysteries of the Yuga Cycle
Long, complex, informative and utter nonsense. From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] FW: Kali Yuga Ending in 2025 (?) ~ Unraveling the Mysteries of the Yuga Cycle http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/DMisraB6.php The end of the Kali Yuga in 2025: Unraveling the mysteries of the Yuga Cycle By Bibhu Dev Misra About the author: Bibhu Dev Misra is a graduate of the Indian Institute of Technology and the Indian Institute of Management and has been working as an Information Technology consultant for more than 14 years. He is also an independent researcher and writer on topics related to ancient civilizations, myths, symbols, science and religion. His research has taken him to many places of historical interest across the globe. His articles have appeared in different journals, magazines, and websites including the New Dawn, Science to Sage, Comsomath, Graham Hancock Forum, Esamskriti, Viewzone and others. He can be contacted at bibhumisra@gmail.comand via his personal blog: http://bibhudev.blogspot.com More articles by Bibhu Dev Misra: A Day and Night of Brahma: The Evidence from Fossil Records The Opet Festival of Ancient Egypt: Has it been derived from the Jagannatha Rathyatra of Puri, India? Evolution by Catastrophe: Does it indicate Intelligent Design? Petra, Jordan – Is it an ancient Shiva Temple complex? The journey of Jagannath from India to Egypt Part 1: Unraveling the Yuga Cycle Timeline The Yuga Cycle doctrine tells us that we are now living in the Kali Yuga; the age of darkness, when moral virtue and mental capabilities reach their lowest point in the cycle. The Indian epic The Mahabharata describes the Kali Yuga as the period when the “World Soul” is Black in hue; only one quarter of virtue remains, which slowly dwindles to zero at the end of the Kali Yuga. Men turn to wickedness; disease, lethargy, anger, natural calamities, anguish and fear of scarcity dominate. Penance, sacrifices and religious observances fall into disuse. All creatures degenerate. Change passes over all things, without exception. The Kali Yuga (Iron Age) was preceded by three others Yugas: Satya or Krita Yuga (Golden Age), Treta Yuga (Silver Age) and the Dwapara Yuga (Bronze Age). In the Mahabharata, Hanuman gives the following description of the Yuga Cycle to the Pandava prince Bhima: The Krita Yuga was so named because there was but one religion, and all men were saintly: therefore they were not required to perform religious ceremonies… Men neither bought nor sold; there were no poor and no rich; there was no need to labour, because all that men required was obtained by the power of will…The Krita Yuga was without disease; there was no lessening with the years; there was no hatred, or vanity, or evil thought whatsoever; no sorrow, no fear. All mankind could attain to supreme blessedness. The universal soul was White… the identification of self with the universal soul was the whole religion of the Perfect Age. In the Treta Yuga sacrifices began, and the World Soul became Red; virtue lessened a quarter. Mankind sought truth and performed religious ceremonies; they obtained what they desired by giving and by doing. In the Dwapara Yuga the aspect of the World Soul was Yellow: religion lessened one-half. The Veda was divided into four parts, and although some had knowledge of the four Vedas, others knew but three or one. Mind lessened, Truth declined, and there came desire and diseases and calamities; because of these men had to undergo penances. It was a decadent Age by reason of the prevalence of sin.”[1] And now we are living in the dark times of the Kali Yuga, when goodness and virtue has all but disappeared from the world. But when did the Kali Yuga begin? And when does it end? In spite of the elaborate theological framework which describes the characteristics of this age, the start and end dates of the Kali Yuga remain shrouded in mystery. The popularly accepted date for the beginning of the Kali Yuga is 3102 BC, thirty-five years after the conclusion of the great battle of the Mahabharata. This is remarkably close to the proposed beginning of the current “Great Cycle” of the Mayan Long Count Calendar in 3114 BC. It is of interest to note that in both of these cases the beginning dates of the respective cycles were calculated retrospectively. The Mayans had recomputed their ancient calendars sometime between 400 BC to 50 CE, at the ceremonial center of Izapa in Mexico, and fixed the starting date of the current Great Cycle of their Long Count Calendar. And in India, sometime around 500 CE, a major review of the Indian calendric systems had taken place. It was during this time that the renowned astronomer Aryabhatta had identified
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
Yes, preliminary. The thing about experiences, even intermittent witnessing, is that some people collect these experiences, while remaining unchanged, themselves. Driven by egoic fear. It is like being a tourist of higher-consciousness experiences. I did listen to a bit of the Sat Shree interview and he says a veil, separating him from the rest of the universe, was torn open, with no possibility of being repaired. To live Being, silence, and bliss, is a far different thing, than collecting, I saw this, and, this happened once, and, for awhile, this other thing happened. Enlightenment is not an aggregate, a museum, or even, a mausoleum, of experiences - that's how religions get born, in the graveyards of memories, of higher consciousness. Experiences, as seen in the mind, continually shrink - very unsatisfying, whereas enlightenment constantly, effortlessly taps that font of creativity and expansion [pure awareness], renewing itself, so the mind, when it does act, has no need to rely on stale and shrinking memories - it can go anywhere it chooses, or just rest empty, in pure awareness. Once everything is available, there is no longer a need to collect experiences of any variety, no matter how tantalizing their memory may be. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Turq hasn't had any spiritual experiences in his whole life. Forty-five years ago he experienced a few days of witnessing in Fiuggji, but that's only a preliminary experience. Yet he likes to brag about it even today, decades later. Later he had some hallucinations about his Buddhist-guru, the Lenz-guy who killed himself while wearing a dog-collar around his neck, levitating. And that's it. The fact is that the Turq-fellow never had any spiritual experiences at all. Yet he judge others, what a phony. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/14/2014 2:50 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Prove to me that there is or ever has been such a thing as an enlightened being. I'll wait. Perception is reality- there are no other experiences except those that are subjective. Almost everything we know is based on verbal testimony what someone TOLD US. There is no knowing outside of conscious experience - knowledge is structured in consciousness. Everyone is special by virtue of being human with a self-conscious mind. The proof that everyone is enlightened is consciousness itself. The only reason you don't have the experience of being enlightened is because you are not Self-realized - you are ignorant. You didn't listen to your teachers and you apparently have not even read any wisdom books. Go figure. The thing is, John, you can't do it. You believe in enlightenment for the same reason you believe that these works of fiction are wisdom books, because someone you chose to believe TOLD YOU. That does *NOT* constitute proof. Me,I believe that the subjective experience that some call enlightenment exists. I believe this because I've experienced it for weeks and months at a time. But *having experienced it*, I can say that it was JUST ANOTHER EXPERIENCE. It did *not* make me special, and it doesn 't make anyone *else* special, either. It doesn't make anything they say any more accurate or cosmic or correct or valuable, any more than a profound drug-induced or psychosis-induced subjective experience does. Youdon't want to believe this because you have invested decades of your life pursuing practices that you believe will make you special. And after all these decades you are really *desperate* to be special. My advice is to relax, because it is never going to happen. Even if you have experiences that convince you that you're enlightened, no one (except the gullible idiots on the Batgap Forum) will treat you any differently, no one will think you're wise, and no one will be any more impressed by you than they ever have been. And if you write a book based on your experiences, it definitely won't be a wisdom book. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
Fleetwood, excellent way to put it, stop my mind from barking in response.
Anyway, I did a little energy work on it, took a shower and when I came
downstairs, all gone!
From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
yeah, it is a non-local seeing. I sometimes put attention on the dog to see
if I can figure out what to do, and sometimes I just have to stop my mind from
barking in response. :-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Cool! What's also fun about this experience, is that there's only one row of
peeps in front of me, the huge majority of them are behind me. Nonetheless, in
my mind's eye I saw those ovals of light anyway!
Now if I could only get the neighborhood dog to stop barking! What idiots leave
a dog out on such a cold day?!
From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
I used to always see the others in the room during flying, like that - had my
eyes closed, but everyone showed up clearly, and proportionately, as light
beings. Always turned into that, myself, when flying.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Nabby, fun coincidence that you are talking about this and I had an experience
in the Dome this morning that I've never had before. My eyes were closed and in
my mind's eye, I saw all the other women as ovals of white light.
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness,
literally. Try itYou don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person
for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or
blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and
the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be
anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to
resolve.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
Turq did practise TM for a number of years. If what you say is true, TM was a total failure. This seems to be a problem with spiritual techniques in general, that most of the time they fail, if we go by our view of the persons practising them, and even according what these persons they say to us about their experiences. Success is rare. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, preliminary. The thing about experiences, even intermittent witnessing, is that some people collect these experiences, while remaining unchanged, themselves. Driven by egoic fear. It is like being a tourist of higher-consciousness experiences. I did listen to a bit of the Sat Shree interview and he says a veil, separating him from the rest of the universe, was torn open, with no possibility of being repaired. To live Being, silence, and bliss, is a far different thing, than collecting, I saw this, and, this happened once, and, for awhile, this other thing happened. Enlightenment is not an aggregate, a museum, or even, a mausoleum, of experiences - that's how religions get born, in the graveyards of memories, of higher consciousness. Experiences, as seen in the mind, continually shrink - very unsatisfying, whereas enlightenment constantly, effortlessly taps that font of creativity and expansion [pure awareness], renewing itself, so the mind, when it does act, has no need to rely on stale and shrinking memories - it can go anywhere it chooses, or just rest empty, in pure awareness. Once everything is available, there is no longer a need to collect experiences of any variety, no matter how tantalizing their memory may be. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Turq hasn't had any spiritual experiences in his whole life. Forty-five years ago he experienced a few days of witnessing in Fiuggji, but that's only a preliminary experience. Yet he likes to brag about it even today, decades later. Later he had some hallucinations about his Buddhist-guru, the Lenz-guy who killed himself while wearing a dog-collar around his neck, levitating. And that's it. The fact is that the Turq-fellow never had any spiritual experiences at all. Yet he judge others, what a phony.
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Justin Cutter on Disney Channel | Jim Carrey on Ellen mentions MUM | Fairfielder Meghan Dowd | Remembering George Harrison | Bob Roth interviews Ringo and Zito | TM HIV/AIDS | B
Forwarded from: Ken Chawkin kchaw...@mum.edu Some things I’ve shared on social media you might enjoy: Justin Cutter on Disney Channel | Jim Carrey on Ellen mentions MUM | Fairfielder Meghan Dowd | Remembering George Harrison | Bob Roth interviews Ringo and Zito | TM HIV/AIDS | Billy Collins Fairfielder and MSAE and MUM Alum Justin Cutter is featured on Disney Channel's Pass the Plate in this 2 minute news item. http://youtu.be/Tk0WxOBwFrs. Follow him on Twitter Compass Green @thecompassgreen and visit his website compassgreenproject.org. Compass Green is an education project run out of a greenhouse on the back of a box truck that grows vegetables and herbs and is powered by waste vegetable oil. Here’s a blog post about the Disney Channel: http://compassgreenproject.org/look-ma-were-famous/ Waiting for Thursday’s episode of Ellen with Jim Carrey to be made available online. Don’t know if they will post it, but apparently Jim mentioned MUM and his Commencement Address to Ellen. Would love to see that part of the interview, but those who have said it was very cool! Meghan Dowd: From Hollywood Screenwriter to Kombucha Microbrewer http://wp.me/p4kRQe-eT via @wordpressdotcom #FairfieldIowa George Harrison: A life remembered: http://bit.ly/1xDjsUc via @lacrossetribune Excellent article how his music and life impacted our world! Barry Zito Interviewed by David @LynchFoundation's Bob Roth @meditationbob [Audio Only] #TranscendentalMeditation http://youtu.be/OxTC4uDNvdk David @LynchFoundation's Bob Roth @meditationbob interviews Ringo Starr @ringostarrmusic #TranscendentalMeditation http://youtu.be/Z8dryBMv4Zw The Impact of Transcendental Meditation on Individuals Living with HIV/AIDS: http://youtu.be/8yk7Mb2cuWI?a via @YouTube For those of us who love poetry, the reading and writing of it, @CharityNebbe interviewed Billy Collins @IPRTalk http://iowapublicradio.org/post/billy-collinsnanowrimo. He reads Sunday in Des Moines @hoytsherman http://wonderofwordsfest.com/events/poet-billy-collins
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
No comment on Anartaxius' comment, but I do wish that if Nabby is going to make up shit about me, he at least take a course in remedial math before doing so. He was off by quite a few years in calculating when my first enlightenment experiences were, placing them only a couple of years after I started TM. :-) As anyone who has actually read what I've written on this forum would know (and that of course includes Nabby, who is just...how do I say this delicately...lying), those first experiences in Fiuggi were only the first such experiences. They have continued ever since, from the time I walked away from TM until the present, lasting anywhere from hours to days to weeks to months. What I think he's freaking out about is that when they fade, I don't miss them. That fucks with his mind, since he's spent his entire life chasing something I don't even miss when it goes away. :-) From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence) Turq did practise TM for a number of years. If what you say is true, TM was a total failure. This seems to be a problem with spiritual techniques in general, that most of the time they fail, if we go by our view of the persons practising them, and even according what these persons they say to us about their experiences. Success is rare. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, preliminary. The thing about experiences, even intermittent witnessing, is that some people collect these experiences, while remaining unchanged, themselves. Driven by egoic fear. It is like being a tourist of higher-consciousness experiences. I did listen to a bit of the Sat Shree interview and he says a veil, separating him from the rest of the universe, was torn open, with no possibility of being repaired. To live Being, silence, and bliss, is a far different thing, than collecting, I saw this, and, this happened once, and, for awhile, this other thing happened. Enlightenment is not an aggregate, a museum, or even, a mausoleum, of experiences - that's how religions get born, in the graveyards of memories, of higher consciousness. Experiences, as seen in the mind, continually shrink - very unsatisfying, whereas enlightenment constantly, effortlessly taps that font of creativity and expansion [pure awareness], renewing itself, so the mind, when it does act, has no need to rely on stale and shrinking memories - it can go anywhere it chooses, or just rest empty, in pure awareness. Once everything is available, there is no longer a need to collect experiences of any variety, no matter how tantalizing their memory may be. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Turq hasn't had any spiritual experiences in his whole life. Forty-five years ago he experienced a few days of witnessing in Fiuggji, but that's only a preliminary experience. Yet he likes to brag about it even today, decades later. Later he had some hallucinations about his Buddhist-guru, the Lenz-guy who killed himself while wearing a dog-collar around his neck, levitating. And that's it. The fact is that the Turq-fellow never had any spiritual experiences at all. Yet he judge others, what a phony.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
Game, set, and match. From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good C: Since Buck decided to take a swipe at me well I have been off the board, I will take a moment to make my own case: that Buck comically misunderstands the meaning of Maharishi's message as usual and idiotically thinks it might serve as a weapon against people who think differently than he does. The hysterical perversion of the intention of Maharishi's words being used as a justification of his doing EXACTLY what Maharishi is warning against is too good to miss. Plus it gives me a chance to comment on Maharishi's style of self promotions as a special guy that seems to have worked so well on Buck. My comments will be interspersed with Maharishi's below Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964 Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be. C: The context is his teachers who were bitching about each other. Maharishi wants them to get back to work pitching his product and STFU about their personality problems with each other. One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure. C: Again setting the context, this applies to those who are of a level of purity where this kind of magical effect takes place. He is not making a broad statement about all people and is not addressing this to non meditators. By applying it to Barry and Michael and me, Buck is saying that our consciousness is as pure as his so this should be a problem for us too. In Maharish's system, like that of the Laws of Manu, there are different instructions for behavior for each level of consciousness. He is not instructing Buck to run around like a clucking hen berating people like me who are acting according to my own level of consciousness according to his system. He is directing this to insiders who want or care about his opinions. It is not a scold to be used to beat others over the head, it is an insiders tip for insiders. But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone. Otherwise speaking ill and thinking ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled. C: Here is where it gets even funnier. For Buck worry to be valid, the things we are saying about Maharishi must be true. He is not denying that people have real weaknesses, he is saying that those real weakness come into your heart for paying attention to them. So only in the case where Maharishi is an actual con man shyster, or whatever other criticism had been leveled does this influence come into play. And none of it has anything to do with my own critiques of Maharishi's belief system. He is not condemning all philosophical disagreement or he would be condemning Shankara's main activity traveling around India and debating with and arguing his points with opposing view points. Buck is misusing the intention of this instruction because he has intellectual boundary problems with people who don't share his provincial view of the world. So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone naturally. C: Again, the point is for people who in the system have gained this imaginary purity, it is not a universal instruction for outsiders. Speaking ill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in our dealings and feelings with people. Very important; very, very important. It is as important as daily practice of meditation. C: So WTF is Buck doing chasing us around, drawing our mud to himself? If what we are doing it is impure, then by dwelling on and attacking us Buck is violating the very purpose of the instruction, while at the same time thinking it is a way to put us down? Now THAT's funny. In the olden days in India, there was a practice that if some man did some great sin, then the way to repent it was that he would cover his body with a cloth like that and will go to any village. Standing out of the village, he would shout out: my name is such and such, and I come from that village, and I happened to be doing like that
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
One of the bests post I have ever seen on FFL - thanks Curtis. Very interesting to read Marshy's pontifications in context. From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good C: Since Buck decided to take a swipe at me well I have been off the board, I will take a moment to make my own case: that Buck comically misunderstands the meaning of Maharishi's message as usual and idiotically thinks it might serve as a weapon against people who think differently than he does. The hysterical perversion of the intention of Maharishi's words being used as a justification of his doing EXACTLY what Maharishi is warning against is too good to miss. Plus it gives me a chance to comment on Maharishi's style of self promotions as a special guy that seems to have worked so well on Buck. My comments will be interspersed with Maharishi's below Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964 Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be. C: The context is his teachers who were bitching about each other. Maharishi wants them to get back to work pitching his product and STFU about their personality problems with each other. One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure. C: Again setting the context, this applies to those who are of a level of purity where this kind of magical effect takes place. He is not making a broad statement about all people and is not addressing this to non meditators. By applying it to Barry and Michael and me, Buck is saying that our consciousness is as pure as his so this should be a problem for us too. In Maharish's system, like that of the Laws of Manu, there are different instructions for behavior for each level of consciousness. He is not instructing Buck to run around like a clucking hen berating people like me who are acting according to my own level of consciousness according to his system. He is directing this to insiders who want or care about his opinions. It is not a scold to be used to beat others over the head, it is an insiders tip for insiders. But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone. Otherwise speaking ill and thinking ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled. C: Here is where it gets even funnier. For Buck worry to be valid, the things we are saying about Maharishi must be true. He is not denying that people have real weaknesses, he is saying that those real weakness come into your heart for paying attention to them. So only in the case where Maharishi is an actual con man shyster, or whatever other criticism had been leveled does this influence come into play. And none of it has anything to do with my own critiques of Maharishi's belief system. He is not condemning all philosophical disagreement or he would be condemning Shankara's main activity traveling around India and debating with and arguing his points with opposing view points. Buck is misusing the intention of this instruction because he has intellectual boundary problems with people who don't share his provincial view of the world. So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone naturally. C: Again, the point is for people who in the system have gained this imaginary purity, it is not a universal instruction for outsiders. Speaking ill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in our dealings and feelings with people. Very important; very, very important. It is as important as daily practice of meditation. C: So WTF is Buck doing chasing us around, drawing our mud to himself? If what we are doing it is impure, then by dwelling on and attacking us Buck is violating the very purpose of the instruction, while at the same time thinking it is a way to put us down? Now THAT's funny. In the olden days in India, there was a practice that if some man did some great sin, then the way to repent it was that he would cover his body with a cloth like that and will go to any village. Standing out of the village, he would shout
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
Thanks Michael and Barry. The funniest kicker to the story is that according to the Puranas, a demon can gain enlightenment by a steady opposition to Krishna. So the only thing that will happen from this circle jerk is that we gain Maharishi's purity and Buck gains our impurity. Not a bad deal huh?! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One of the bests post I have ever seen on FFL - thanks Curtis. Very interesting to read Marshy's pontifications in context. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good C: Since Buck decided to take a swipe at me well I have been off the board, I will take a moment to make my own case: that Buck comically misunderstands the meaning of Maharishi's message as usual and idiotically thinks it might serve as a weapon against people who think differently than he does. The hysterical perversion of the intention of Maharishi's words being used as a justification of his doing EXACTLY what Maharishi is warning against is too good to miss. Plus it gives me a chance to comment on Maharishi's style of self promotions as a special guy that seems to have worked so well on Buck. My comments will be interspersed with Maharishi's below Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964 Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be. C: The context is his teachers who were bitching about each other. Maharishi wants them to get back to work pitching his product and STFU about their personality problems with each other. One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure. C: Again setting the context, this applies to those who are of a level of purity where this kind of magical effect takes place. He is not making a broad statement about all people and is not addressing this to non meditators. By applying it to Barry and Michael and me, Buck is saying that our consciousness is as pure as his so this should be a problem for us too. In Maharish's system, like that of the Laws of Manu, there are different instructions for behavior for each level of consciousness. He is not instructing Buck to run around like a clucking hen berating people like me who are acting according to my own level of consciousness according to his system. He is directing this to insiders who want or care about his opinions. It is not a scold to be used to beat others over the head, it is an insiders tip for insiders. But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone. Otherwise speaking ill and thinking ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled. C: Here is where it gets even funnier. For Buck worry to be valid, the things we are saying about Maharishi must be true. He is not denying that people have real weaknesses, he is saying that those real weakness come into your heart for paying attention to them. So only in the case where Maharishi is an actual con man shyster, or whatever other criticism had been leveled does this influence come into play. And none of it has anything to do with my own critiques of Maharishi's belief system. He is not condemning all philosophical disagreement or he would be condemning Shankara's main activity traveling around India and debating with and arguing his points with opposing view points. Buck is misusing the intention of this instruction because he has intellectual boundary problems with people who don't share his provincial view of the world. So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone naturally. C: Again, the point is for people who in the system have gained this imaginary purity, it is not a universal instruction for outsiders. Speaking ill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in our dealings and feelings with people. Very important; very, very important. It is as important as daily practice of meditation. C: So WTF is Buck doing chasing us around, drawing our mud to himself? If what we are doing it is impure, then by dwelling on and attacking us Buck is violating the very purpose of the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
It's a suggestion. Take it or leave it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, You should study jyotish, particularly the Nadi Astrology system. NA can show you why certain things happen even though on the surface it looks brilliant. Specifically, a person may have a strong 9th house which gives good results relating to spirituality and the experiences of samadhi and the siddhis. But a strong 9th house is not necessarily beneficial to the 10th house affairs relating to career and work recognition. This is the reason why knowledge of the cuspal sublords can tell you the ancillary effects of a favorable 9th house. With this knowledge, one can make adjustments to his or her activities and take advantage of what nature has in store for the person. The Cuspal Sublords! I just found the name of my new metal band. But I love the way you write this stuff as though it all makes some sort of sense and can be used for divination purposes. I've really yet to see it here or anywhere. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, What kind of experiences have you had that is comparable to the enlightened beings? I've been there dude. I've talked about it before on here. TM blew my mind for a while, I saw the light, experienced the oneness that is also everything else at the same time but without changing it's own nature. Good trip, not a good long term proposition perhaps. I can see why religions get started over it though, it's easy to think that what is happening inside accurately reflects what's happening outside, and when you get a change of perception like that you might think you are seeing a deeper level of external reality but what we see of the world is created in our heads anyway so changes to that are changes in how our consciousness is created neurophysiologically. I don't think I'd make a very inspiring guru but people reacted differently to me when I was like it, bit of ultra blissed darshan for the guys at work. Maybe I would have got promoted quicker if it had hung around. But I went to live with the TMO because of experiences like this and they never came back. LOL! The rest is history... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Barry, Humans are limited and conditioned beings. Enlightened beings who have understood Being have to show the rest of us in concrete words and deeds the experience of the unified field. Philosophy and its fancy words and ideas, for me, do not convey the real meaning. So, you would have to use discretion in concluding that the world's wisdom books are fiction. A person, who makes criticisms and conclusions without reasonable and logical basis, is a fool. But the bible and the gita are completely different books from different cultures and with different aims among the so-called wisdom of their gods. To cherry pick a few remarks as being some sort of Truth that all ancient religions share is stretching credulity a bit. They aint remotely similar. And as usual, the problem is really that the experiences the wise speak of are the same as the ones I have had but we differ in interpretation of what they mean. In the absence of any information beyond that which can be gained by their senses they created a worldview that I don't think matches up with reality. I've been there, tried it on for size and disagreed with their conclusions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I really hate to be the person to have to explain this to you, JR, but the Bhagavad-Gita, the Old Testament, and the New Testament are all FICTION. You don't win philosophical discussions by invoking them, any more than if you had invoked the Harry Potter books. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence Share, Yes, IMO consciousness is alive. The Bhagavad Gita has shown this when Arjuna asked Krishna to show his true self. And, Krishna showed a vision of infinite types of beings to disclose who He is. On the other hand, the Old Testament states that Yahweh is the I AM Who AM. However, in the New Testament, Jesus is shown to be the embodiment of Consciousness in a human form. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, what you say brings up this question for me: is consciousness alive? Hmmm, or maybe better to ask: is Beingness alive? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
I read an interesting article written for an Indian wandering monk about how well they really take care of wandering holy men in India. People basically expect these guys to have no right to demand any decent food so they often get scraps people would throw away. If they complain they get hit with:you are not a real renunciate if you have any desires not to eat shit food! They also constantly get bugged to heal people which is a total drag since they can't. It sounds like being an American bum with even more judgements leveled at them about how they should behave! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : There are a lot of Bucks in India. And real yogis tend to disregard them as fanatics. My trip to India, studying with Indian teachers for ayurveda, jyotish and tantra gave me a good perspective on Maharishi. He didn't stray too much from traditional thought. If he would have he would have been chastised by the yogi community. Many of them praise him for popularizing meditation in the west but wouldn't have anything to do with the movement when invited to do so. One needs to remember in Indian tradition there is a right hand path for renunciates and the left hand path for householders. Problem is a lot westerners aspire to the right hand path because they want to be holy men. But that is ridiculous because you have to almost be born into it. The left hand path is more practical in the west because you can go about earning income to raise a family. I think in India the only advantage to the right hand path is you get taken care of by the monasteries or if on the street people will give feed you out of tradition. My tantra guru taught that samskaras don't entirely go away in enlightenment. Maharishi actually taught this too as the remains of ignorance. But it determines your personality and probably keeps us away from being totally intolerable bliss ninnies. On 11/14/2014 11:13 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: C: Since Buck decided to take a swipe at me well I have been off the board, I will take a moment to make my own case: that Buck comically misunderstands the meaning of Maharishi's message as usual and idiotically thinks it might serve as a weapon against people who think differently than he does. The hysterical perversion of the intention of Maharishi's words being used as a justification of his doing EXACTLY what Maharishi is warning against is too good to miss. Plus it gives me a chance to comment on Maharishi's style of self promotions as a special guy that seems to have worked so well on Buck. My comments will be interspersed with Maharishi's below Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964 Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be. C: The context is his teachers who were bitching about each other. Maharishi wants them to get back to work pitching his product and STFU about their personality problems with each other. One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure. C: Again setting the context, this applies to those who are of a level of purity where this kind of magical effect takes place. He is not making a broad statement about all people and is not addressing this to non meditators. By applying it to Barry and Michael and me, Buck is saying that our consciousness is as pure as his so this should be a problem for us too. In Maharish's system, like that of the Laws of Manu, there are different instructions for behavior for each level of consciousness. He is not instructing Buck to run around like a clucking hen berating people like me who are acting according to my own level of consciousness according to his system. He is directing this to insiders who want or care about his opinions. It is not a scold to be used to beat others over the head, it is an insiders tip for insiders. But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone. Otherwise speaking ill and thinking ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled. C: Here is where it gets even funnier. For Buck worry to be valid, the things we are saying about Maharishi must be true. He is not denying that people have real weaknesses, he is saying that those real weakness come into your heart for paying attention to them. So only in the case where Maharishi is an actual con man shyster, or whatever other criticism had been leveled does this influence come into play. And none of it has anything to do with
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
Barry, You mention the point about subjective experience. You appear to question it. But aren't you basing your criticism based on your own subjective experience? For the same reason, we can say your criticisms are false and foolish. You don't have any evidence for anything you're saying. Therefore, your statements are delusions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Barry, Humans are limited and conditioned beings. Enlightened beings who have understood Being have to show the rest of us in concrete words and deeds the experience of the unified field. Prove to me that there is or ever has been such a thing as an enlightened being. I'll wait. The thing is, John, you can't do it. You believe in enlightenment for the same reason you believe that these works of fiction are wisdom books, because someone you chose to believe TOLD YOU. That does *NOT* constitute proof. Me, I believe that the subjective experience that some call enlightenment exists. I believe this because I've experienced it for weeks and months at a time. But *having experienced it*, I can say that it was JUST ANOTHER EXPERIENCE. It did *not* make me special, and it doesn 't make anyone *else* special, either. It doesn't make anything they say any more accurate or cosmic or correct or valuable, any more than a profound drug-induced or psychosis-induced subjective experience does. You don't want to believe this because you have invested decades of your life pursuing practices that you believe will make you special. And after all these decades you are really *desperate* to be special. My advice is to relax, because it is never going to happen. Even if you have experiences that convince you that you're enlightened, no one (except the gullible idiots on the Batgap Forum) will treat you any differently, no one will think you're wise, and no one will be any more impressed by you than they ever have been. And if you write a book based on your experiences, it definitely won't be a wisdom book. :-) Philosophy and its fancy words and ideas, for me, do not convey the real meaning. So, you would have to use discretion in concluding that the world's wisdom books are fiction. A person, who makes criticisms and conclusions without reasonable and logical basis, is a fool. You are welcome to believe whatever you want. Personally, I think that anyone who actually believes that these books full of line after line after line of some guy telling other people who it is permissible for them to go out and kill because they believe differently than he does is more than a little bit of a fool. The Harry Potter books not only contain more wisdom than the Bhagavad-Gita, Old Testament, and New Testament combined, they're much better written. If you quote them to make a point, I might actually listen. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I really hate to be the person to have to explain this to you, JR, but the Bhagavad-Gita, the Old Testament, and the New Testament are all FICTION. You don't win philosophical discussions by invoking them, any more than if you had invoked the Harry Potter books. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence Share, Yes, IMO consciousness is alive. The Bhagavad Gita has shown this when Arjuna asked Krishna to show his true self. And, Krishna showed a vision of infinite types of beings to disclose who He is. On the other hand, the Old Testament states that Yahweh is the I AM Who AM. However, in the New Testament, Jesus is shown to be the embodiment of Consciousness in a human form. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, what you say brings up this question for me: is consciousness alive? Hmmm, or maybe better to ask: is Beingness alive? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence Share, It all depends on what you believe is the basis of the universe. If you believe that consciousness is the basis of the universe, it is likely that you would say biological intelligence is the more common way of development. This is because we know this happens on earth where humans exist. Non-biological intelligence implies that this is created by another type of beings--more likely humans or biological entities. I can see how a non-biological intelligence could be an advantage. For example, robots can direct and maintain the functions of a spaceship for centuries, without eating and sleeping like humans, until the destination is
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children
Share, If you believe that path suits you, nobody is stopping you from doing so. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, in some wise traditions, sex isn't just for producing progeny. It's also for pleasure and healing and even becoming realized. Go figger! From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children Share, IMO the church is saying that all women have a choice. They can have sex and children which is perfectly acceptable and human. Or be a virgin like Mary which is acceptable as well if that is their preference. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, basically the Church has placed at the pinnacle of worship, a woman who became a mother without having sex. I don't think the message is very subtle! From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children Share, From what I've seen, Catholic women are having sex and children. So, what's wrong with that? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, imo the problem with the Virgin Mary is that by being both a virgin and a mother, she is used to denigrate feminine sexuality. Not healthy, to say the least. A cool book I read about Mary stated that she and her parents were Essenes. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children Share, We should all keep a close eye on what Pope Francis is saying these days. Some reporters have stated that Pope Francis believes the Virgin Mary is equal to God and that Jesus has been demoted. If true, that would really shake all of the Christian Churches. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard and John, imo, what we're seeing now is patriarchal spirituality in its death throes and the re emergence of the feminine divine as co creator. Plus which there may have been another Mary, one who was a prostitute. Or maybe these various Marys, virgin, wife and prostitute are aspects of the collective psyche. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:13 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Married . . . with Children On 11/13/2014 1:43 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: This idea is similar to the plot in the Da Vinci Code novel. For nearly 2,000 years, Mary Magdalene was believed to be a prostitute who repented and became a disciple of Jesus, but, the truth about her is finally emerging. She was almost certainly not a prostitute, but a wealthy woman whose support helped early Christianity to survive. Mary Magdalene could have been Jesus' concubine or even his wife. The Bible doesn't say what her realtionship was with Jesus except that she was a devoted follower and supporter. The early Gnostic Gospels have no hesitation describing the relationship between Mary Magdalene and Jesus. The death of Jesus could have been a plot to deceive the authorities. Maybe it was a robber that was hung on the cross and maybe Jesus escaped with Mary to go live in France. Go figure. Read more: 'Venus in Sackcloth' by Marjorie Malvern Penguin, 1995 That leaves the people to ask: who were the descendants of Jesus and Mary, and where are they now? Also, the involvement of Mary Magdalene as co-messiah would completely change the present Christian theology. As such, I believe the orthodoxy would completely reject the validity of the manuscript. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : Mary Magdalene was a co-messiah, the wife of Jesus and the mother of his children, according to a translation of an ancient manuscript. http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b http://tinyurl.com/mhb2j8b
[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : It's a suggestion. Take it or leave it. Well thank you. You're a natural with the lingo is what I mean. I also mean that no one has ever convinced me, other people believing something counts for nothing with me and astrology is one of those things that just makes no sense as an objective phenomenon that I can see. But I convert for evidence, so I got a chart from a Nadu Astrology site, what do you reckon? Ascendent(Lagan) :Libra 10.02 Ascendent Lord :Ven Moon Sign(Rashi) :Taurus Moon Sign Lord :Ven Birth Star(Nakshatra) :Rohini Birth Star Lord :Mon Lucky Gem :Emerald Lucky No. : 3 Lucky Day :Friday Lucky Color :Green Sun Sign (As per western system) :Aquarius Current Vimshottari Dasa :Sat-Ket You are a Manglik person Currently Under SadeSati :No Ascendent Chart(Lagan Kundli) Planet's position at the time of birth Planet Sign Degree Lord Asc Libra 10.02 Ven Sun Capricorn 28.41 Sat Mon Taurus 19.38 Ven Mar Virgo 03.35 Mer Mer(R) Capricorn 18.53 Sat Jup(R) Aries 24.23 Mar Ven(R) Capricorn 13.43 Sat Sat(R) Aquarius 12.21 Sat Rah(R) Taurus 27.40 Ven Ket(R) Scorpio 27.40 Mar *(R)=Retrograte Navmansha Chart Transit Chart November 14,2014 13:20:45 Sun :Lib 28.01 Mon :Can 27.09 Mar :Sag 20.14 Mer :Lib 14.28 Jup :Can 27.37 Ven :Sco 03.07 Sat :Sco 01.24 Rah(R) :Vir 24.40
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
They tend to come up to you and say I'm an Indian holy man and hold out their begging can or up. Figured that being a westerner we would fall for it but the tour had warned about giving them anything. Besides I might have taken them up on being an holy man and paid them if they first did something to prove it. :-D OTOH, Indian academics and pundits were happy to host us and not charge anything for it. They were just pleased to have westerners who were interested. On 11/14/2014 12:07 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I read an interesting article written for an Indian wandering monk about how well they really take care of wandering holy men in India. People basically expect these guys to have no right to demand any decent food so they often get scraps people would throw away. If they complain they get hit with:you are not a real renunciate if you have any desires not to eat shit food! They also constantly get bugged to heal people which is a total drag since they can't. It sounds like being an American bum with even more judgements leveled at them about how they should behave! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : There are a lot of Bucks in India. And real yogis tend to disregard them as fanatics. My trip to India, studying with Indian teachers for ayurveda, jyotish and tantra gave me a good perspective on Maharishi. He didn't stray too much from traditional thought. If he would have he would have been chastised by the yogi community. Many of them praise him for popularizing meditation in the west but wouldn't have anything to do with the movement when invited to do so. One needs to remember in Indian tradition there is a right hand path for renunciates and the left hand path for householders. Problem is a lot westerners aspire to the right hand path because they want to be holy men. But that is ridiculous because you have to almost be born into it. The left hand path is more practical in the west because you can go about earning income to raise a family. I think in India the only advantage to the right hand path is you get taken care of by the monasteries or if on the street people will give feed you out of tradition. My tantra guru taught that samskaras don't entirely go away in enlightenment. Maharishi actually taught this too as the remains of ignorance. But it determines your personality and probably keeps us away from being totally intolerable bliss ninnies. On 11/14/2014 11:13 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: C: Since Buck decided to take a swipe at me well I have been off the board, I will take a moment to make my own case: that Buck comically misunderstands the meaning of Maharishi's message as usual and idiotically thinks it might serve as a weapon against people who think differently than he does. The hysterical perversion of the intention of Maharishi's words being used as a justification of his doing EXACTLY what Maharishi is warning against is too good to miss. Plus it gives me a chance to comment on Maharishi's style of self promotions as a special guy that seems to have worked so well on Buck. My comments will be interspersed with Maharishi's below Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964 Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be. C: The context is his teachers who were bitching about each other. Maharishi wants them to get back to work pitching his product and STFU about their personality problems with each other. One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure. C: Again setting the context, this applies to those who are of a level of purity where this kind of magical effect takes place. He is not making a broad statement about all people and is not addressing this to non meditators. By applying it to Barry and Michael and me, Buck is saying that our consciousness is as pure as his so this should be a problem for us too. In Maharish's system, like that of the Laws of Manu, there are different instructions for behavior for each level of consciousness. He is not instructing Buck to run around like a clucking hen berating people like me who are acting according to my own level of consciousness according to his system. He is directing this to insiders who want or care about his opinions. It is not a scold to be used to beat others over the head, it is an insiders tip for insiders. But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think evil of anyone, don't
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe
Bhairitu, I didn't read the ad either! I was gobsmacked by the Subject line and
bunged it along to the Funny Farm Lounge!
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to
Santa Fe
I'm taking Barry missed your joke and should take another close look at
the magazine ad. ;-)
On 11/14/2014 05:04 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I guess some peeps are just so stalkworthy (-:
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to
Santa Fe
Looks like Share has turned into a stalker, too. :-)
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:39 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to
Santa Fe
NM mag has the scoop on B?!
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To: sharelon...@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:34 AM
Subject: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe
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[FairfieldLife] Coffeeology
I am pleased to report that I finally fixed my espresso machine. It was easier than I thought and should've read all the comments on the YouTube video about fixing this particular machine the first time around. I figured that grounds were plugging up the brew head but couldn't as many of the commenters said couldn't get the brass screw lose to take the brew head off and clean it out. Someone said they had used a specific cleaner made for cleaning espresso and other coffee devices since vinegar won't really do that job as it won't break up impacted grounds. I bought a jar of it for all of $5 and available down the street. Worked great though I did have to turn the machine upside down to get it to specifically soak loose grounds in the brew head. After a it dripped dark water for a couple minutes the pump kicked in and fill a bowl full of dark water. Then I ran several well fulls of water through it until the water was clear. This morning's Americano was great though I dialed back on the grind since too fine a grind was the culprit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
Learn Nadi Astrology and figure it out for yourself, my friend. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : It's a suggestion. Take it or leave it. Well thank you. You're a natural with the lingo is what I mean. I also mean that no one has ever convinced me, other people believing something counts for nothing with me and astrology is one of those things that just makes no sense as an objective phenomenon that I can see. But I convert for evidence, so I got a chart from a Nadu Astrology site, what do you reckon? Ascendent(Lagan) :Libra 10.02 Ascendent Lord :Ven Moon Sign(Rashi) :Taurus Moon Sign Lord :Ven Birth Star(Nakshatra) :Rohini Birth Star Lord :Mon Lucky Gem :Emerald Lucky No. : 3 Lucky Day :Friday Lucky Color :Green Sun Sign (As per western system) :Aquarius Current Vimshottari Dasa :Sat-Ket You are a Manglik person Currently Under SadeSati :No Ascendent Chart(Lagan Kundli) Planet's position at the time of birth Planet Sign Degree Lord Asc Libra 10.02 Ven Sun Capricorn 28.41 Sat Mon Taurus 19.38 Ven Mar Virgo 03.35 Mer Mer(R) Capricorn 18.53 Sat Jup(R) Aries 24.23 Mar Ven(R) Capricorn 13.43 Sat Sat(R) Aquarius 12.21 Sat Rah(R) Taurus 27.40 Ven Ket(R) Scorpio 27.40 Mar *(R)=Retrograte Navmansha Chart Transit Chart November 14,2014 13:20:45 Sun :Lib 28.01 Mon :Can 27.09 Mar :Sag 20.14 Mer :Lib 14.28 Jup :Can 27.37 Ven :Sco 03.07 Sat :Sco 01.24 Rah(R) :Vir 24.40
[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Learn Nadi Astrology and figure it out for yourself, my friend. Aw boo! Tell you what, just give me tomorrows lottery numbers ;-) Good looking chart though, bit worried about the absence of any planets beyond Saturn but I bet everyone says that ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : It's a suggestion. Take it or leave it. Well thank you. You're a natural with the lingo is what I mean. I also mean that no one has ever convinced me, other people believing something counts for nothing with me and astrology is one of those things that just makes no sense as an objective phenomenon that I can see. But I convert for evidence, so I got a chart from a Nadu Astrology site, what do you reckon? Ascendent(Lagan) :Libra 10.02 Ascendent Lord :Ven Moon Sign(Rashi) :Taurus Moon Sign Lord :Ven Birth Star(Nakshatra) :Rohini Birth Star Lord :Mon Lucky Gem :Emerald Lucky No. : 3 Lucky Day :Friday Lucky Color :Green Sun Sign (As per western system) :Aquarius Current Vimshottari Dasa :Sat-Ket You are a Manglik person Currently Under SadeSati :No Ascendent Chart(Lagan Kundli) Planet's position at the time of birth Planet Sign Degree Lord Asc Libra 10.02 Ven Sun Capricorn 28.41 Sat Mon Taurus 19.38 Ven Mar Virgo 03.35 Mer Mer(R) Capricorn 18.53 Sat Jup(R) Aries 24.23 Mar Ven(R) Capricorn 13.43 Sat Sat(R) Aquarius 12.21 Sat Rah(R) Taurus 27.40 Ven Ket(R) Scorpio 27.40 Mar *(R)=Retrograte Navmansha Chart Transit Chart November 14,2014 13:20:45 Sun :Lib 28.01 Mon :Can 27.09 Mar :Sag 20.14 Mer :Lib 14.28 Jup :Can 27.37 Ven :Sco 03.07 Sat :Sco 01.24 Rah(R) :Vir 24.40
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Bhairitu, I didn't read the ad either! I was gobsmacked by the Subject line and bunged it along to the Funny Farm Lounge! I just want a set of those chickens. Wonder if they deliver to Blighty? From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe I'm taking Barry missed your joke and should take another close look at the magazine ad. ;-) On 11/14/2014 05:04 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I guess some peeps are just so stalkworthy (-: From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe Looks like Share has turned into a stalker, too. :-) From: Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe NM mag has the scoop on B?! - Forwarded Message - From: New Mexico Magazine newmexicomagazine@... mailto:newmexicomagazine@... To: sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:34 AM Subject: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe Get more New Mexico Magazine on Pinterest http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=fd8bfac814e=e516b9d39f, Facebook http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=8bb08a3215e=e516b9d39f, and Twitter http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=7dcf639b99e=e516b9d39f. View this email in your browser Western NM Road Trip Traipse across lava fields, find turquoise treasures, and relish the local fare on the scenic route between Grants and Gallup. Home for the Holidays and Beyond Chef John Rivera Sedlar's comes home to Santa Fe to open a restaurant...and to spend the holidays with Mom. What's Happening Infuse your December with piñon smoke, ski slopes, arts events, and Yuletide cheer, New Mexico-style. http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=d8b8d2c54ce=e516b9d39f http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=a01c80c288e=e516b9d39f http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=943384bff6e=e516b9d39f http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=cc5a5c400ce=e516b9d39f http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=dfb161f6bae=e516b9d39f Find New Mexico Magazine at a nearby newsstand, or sign up for home delivery. Single issues and subscriptions are also available on iPad http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=3c7ab4b639e=e516b9d39f and iPhone http://nmmagazine.us4.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=f9a011e6df4168d163ae6fd50id=a7f3e7ce74e=e516b9d39f. Copyright © 2014 New Mexico Magazine, All rights reserved. You are receiving this email because you opted in at our website, or during an online store purchase or during the subscription process. We thank you and appreciate all of our loyal readers and store customers. Our mailing address is: New Mexico Magazine 495 Old Santa Fe Trail Santa Fe, NM 87501 Add us to your address book Unsubscribe from this listUpdate subscription preferences
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to Santa Fe
who's Blighty? New character in Harry Potter books?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 3:24 PM
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Santa Fe
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Bhairitu, I didn't read the ad either! I was gobsmacked by the Subject line and
bunged it along to the Funny Farm Lounge!
I just want a set of those chickens. Wonder if they deliver to Blighty?
From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to
Santa Fe
I'm taking Barry missed your joke and should take another close look at
the magazine ad. ;-)
On 11/14/2014 05:04 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I guess some peeps are just so stalkworthy (-:
From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Turquoise treasure hunts; a star returns to
Santa Fe
Looks like Share has turned into a stalker, too. :-)
From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:39 PM
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Santa Fe
NM mag has the scoop on B?!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
So you were born on February 10th, 1965 some time after 11 PM GMT? We're both LIbra risings so we will argue a bit since that creates a balancing act. You are in your Saturn dasha so things should be going fairly well over all. You're in the Ketu subdasha and Ketu is exalted in your chart and won't be beating you up much. There are definitely some obstacles in your chart but I don't like to go into those on a public forum. On 11/14/2014 12:25 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : It's a suggestion. Take it or leave it. Well thank you. You're a natural with the lingo is what I mean. I also mean that no one has ever convinced me, other people believing something counts for nothing with me and astrology is one of those things that just makes no sense as an objective phenomenon that I can see. But I convert for evidence, so I got a chart from a Nadu Astrology site, what do you reckon? Ascendent(Lagan) :Libra 10.02 Ascendent Lord :Ven Moon Sign(Rashi) :TaurusMoon Sign Lord :Ven Birth Star(Nakshatra) :Rohini Birth Star Lord :Mon Lucky Gem :Emerald Lucky No. : 3 Lucky Day :Friday Lucky Color :Green Sun Sign (As per western system) :Aquarius Current Vimshottari Dasa :Sat-Ket You are a Manglik person Currently Under SadeSati :No *Ascendent Chart(Lagan Kundli)* *Planet's position at the time of birth* Planet SignDegree Lord Asc Libra 10.02 Ven Sun Capricorn 28.41 Sat Mon Taurus 19.38 Ven Mar Virgo 03.35 Mer Mer(R) Capricorn 18.53 Sat Jup(R) Aries 24.23 Mar Ven(R) Capricorn 13.43 Sat Sat(R) Aquarius12.21 Sat Rah(R) Taurus 27.40 Ven Ket(R) Scorpio 27.40 Mar *(R)=Retrograte *Navmansha Chart* *Transit Chart *November 14,2014 13:20:45 Sun :Lib 28.01 Mon :Can 27.09 Mar :Sag 20.14 Mer :Lib 14.28 Jup :Can 27.37 Ven :Sco 03.07 Sat :Sco 01.24 Rah(R) :Vir 24.40
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
BTW, it's Nadi astrology not Nadu. The latter will get you WillyTex accusing you of being a Tamil Tiger. :-D On 11/14/2014 12:25 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : It's a suggestion. Take it or leave it. Well thank you. You're a natural with the lingo is what I mean. I also mean that no one has ever convinced me, other people believing something counts for nothing with me and astrology is one of those things that just makes no sense as an objective phenomenon that I can see. But I convert for evidence, so I got a chart from a Nadu Astrology site, what do you reckon? Ascendent(Lagan) :Libra 10.02 Ascendent Lord :Ven Moon Sign(Rashi) :TaurusMoon Sign Lord :Ven Birth Star(Nakshatra) :Rohini Birth Star Lord :Mon Lucky Gem :Emerald Lucky No. : 3 Lucky Day :Friday Lucky Color :Green Sun Sign (As per western system) :Aquarius Current Vimshottari Dasa :Sat-Ket You are a Manglik person Currently Under SadeSati :No *Ascendent Chart(Lagan Kundli)* *Planet's position at the time of birth* Planet SignDegree Lord Asc Libra 10.02 Ven Sun Capricorn 28.41 Sat Mon Taurus 19.38 Ven Mar Virgo 03.35 Mer Mer(R) Capricorn 18.53 Sat Jup(R) Aries 24.23 Mar Ven(R) Capricorn 13.43 Sat Sat(R) Aquarius12.21 Sat Rah(R) Taurus 27.40 Ven Ket(R) Scorpio 27.40 Mar *(R)=Retrograte *Navmansha Chart* *Transit Chart *November 14,2014 13:20:45 Sun :Lib 28.01 Mon :Can 27.09 Mar :Sag 20.14 Mer :Lib 14.28 Jup :Can 27.37 Ven :Sco 03.07 Sat :Sco 01.24 Rah(R) :Vir 24.40
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
You mean that Mr. Science has not programmed a formula that will predict the tomorrow's lottery numbers? Of course you only will if it is your destiny and and your destiny to win. :-D On 11/14/2014 01:22 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Learn Nadi Astrology and figure it out for yourself, my friend. Aw boo! Tell you what, just give me tomorrows lottery numbers ;-) Good looking chart though, bit worried about the absence of any planets beyond Saturn but I bet everyone says that ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : It's a suggestion. Take it or leave it. Well thank you. You're a natural with the lingo is what I mean. I also mean that no one has ever convinced me, other people believing something counts for nothing with me and astrology is one of those things that just makes no sense as an objective phenomenon that I can see. But I convert for evidence, so I got a chart from a Nadu Astrology site, what do you reckon? Ascendent(Lagan) :Libra 10.02 Ascendent Lord :Ven Moon Sign(Rashi) :TaurusMoon Sign Lord :Ven Birth Star(Nakshatra) :Rohini Birth Star Lord :Mon Lucky Gem :Emerald Lucky No. : 3 Lucky Day :Friday Lucky Color :Green Sun Sign (As per western system) :Aquarius Current Vimshottari Dasa :Sat-Ket You are a Manglik person Currently Under SadeSati :No *Ascendent Chart(Lagan Kundli)* *Planet's position at the time of birth* Planet SignDegree Lord Asc Libra 10.02 Ven Sun Capricorn 28.41 Sat Mon Taurus 19.38 Ven Mar Virgo 03.35 Mer Mer(R) Capricorn 18.53 Sat Jup(R) Aries 24.23 Mar Ven(R) Capricorn 13.43 Sat Sat(R) Aquarius12.21 Sat Rah(R) Taurus 27.40 Ven Ket(R) Scorpio 27.40 Mar *(R)=Retrograte *Navmansha Chart* *Transit Chart *November 14,2014 13:20:45 Sun :Lib 28.01 Mon :Can 27.09 Mar :Sag 20.14 Mer :Lib 14.28 Jup :Can 27.37 Ven :Sco 03.07 Sat :Sco 01.24 Rah(R) :Vir 24.40
[FairfieldLife] Russell Brand on Democracy Now!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
Not so sure about that. According to the Turq himself he was involved because it presented plenty of opportunities to pick up broads. Doesn't sound as if he was into meditation much. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Turq did practise TM for a number of years. If what you say is true, TM was a total failure. This seems to be a problem with spiritual techniques in general, that most of the time they fail, if we go by our view of the persons practising them, and even according what these persons they say to us about their experiences. Success is rare. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, preliminary. The thing about experiences, even intermittent witnessing, is that some people collect these experiences, while remaining unchanged, themselves. Driven by egoic fear. It is like being a tourist of higher-consciousness experiences. I did listen to a bit of the Sat Shree interview and he says a veil, separating him from the rest of the universe, was torn open, with no possibility of being repaired. To live Being, silence, and bliss, is a far different thing, than collecting, I saw this, and, this happened once, and, for awhile, this other thing happened. Enlightenment is not an aggregate, a museum, or even, a mausoleum, of experiences - that's how religions get born, in the graveyards of memories, of higher consciousness. Experiences, as seen in the mind, continually shrink - very unsatisfying, whereas enlightenment constantly, effortlessly taps that font of creativity and expansion [pure awareness], renewing itself, so the mind, when it does act, has no need to rely on stale and shrinking memories - it can go anywhere it chooses, or just rest empty, in pure awareness. Once everything is available, there is no longer a need to collect experiences of any variety, no matter how tantalizing their memory may be. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Turq hasn't had any spiritual experiences in his whole life. Forty-five years ago he experienced a few days of witnessing in Fiuggji, but that's only a preliminary experience. Yet he likes to brag about it even today, decades later. Later he had some hallucinations about his Buddhist-guru, the Lenz-guy who killed himself while wearing a dog-collar around his neck, levitating. And that's it. The fact is that the Turq-fellow never had any spiritual experiences at all. Yet he judge others, what a phony.
[FairfieldLife] Watch: A woman walks around the streets of Mumbai for 10 hours to recreate the viral NYC video, doesn't get catcalled even once!
The viral video of a woman walking around the streets of New York City sparked a debate on the safety of women across the world. There were allegations that the video was edited, and there was outrage about how little women are respected around the globe. Watch: A woman walks around the streets of Mumbai for 10 hours to recreate the viral NYC video, doesn't get catcalled even once! http://ibnlive.in.com/news/watch-a-woman-walks-around-the-streets-of-mumbai-for-10-hours-to-recreate-the-viral-nyc-video-doesnt-get-catcalled-even-once/512022-79.html http://ibnlive.in.com/news/watch-a-woman-walks-around-the-streets-of-mumbai-for-10-hours-to-recreate-the-viral-nyc-video-doesnt-get-catcalled-even-once/512022-79.html Watch: A woman walks around the streets of Mumba... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/watch-a-woman-walks-around-the-streets-of-mumbai-for-10-hours-to-recreate-the-viral-nyc-video-doesnt-get-catcalled-even-once/512022-79.html No one catcalled this woman walking in Mumbai in a short skirt and a top. Is Mumbai safer for women? Maybe it is. View on ibnlive.in.com http://ibnlive.in.com/news/watch-a-woman-walks-around-the-streets-of-mumbai-for-10-hours-to-recreate-the-viral-nyc-video-doesnt-get-catcalled-even-once/512022-79.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gorgeous Mosques
Fleetwood: But some gothic cathedrals also soar and draw one upwards. The Brain on Architecture http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/11/the-brain-on-architecture/382090/?single_page=true http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/11/the-brain-on-architecture/382090/?single_page=true The Brain on Architecture http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/11/the-brain-on-architecture/382090/?single_page=true Looking at buildings designed for purposes of contemplation—like museums, churches, and libraries—may have positive measurable effects on m... View on www.theatlantic.com http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/11/the-brain-on-architecture/382090/?single_page=true Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Meet Bob: The Man Who Teaches Meditation To Middle-School Students, Celebrities, And The Homeless Alike
http://www.tm.org/research-on-meditation http://www.tm.org/tm-is-different http://www.tm.org/enlightenment http://www.tm.org/popups-new/paul-mccartney.html http://www.tm.org/popups-new/roth-intro.html http://www.tm.org/popups-new/hagelin-intro.html http://www.tm.org/videocafe - See more at: http://www.tm.org/blog/people/meet-bob-the-man-who-teaches-meditation/?leadsource=CRM1407#sthash.9cwaqDIY.dpuf http://www.tm.org/blog/people/meet-bob-the-man-who-teaches-meditation/?leadsource=CRM1407#sthash.9cwaqDIY.dpuf
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
Yep, so many times that older model of insisting that the object change to suit us, is not any longer the sole option. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, excellent way to put it, stop my mind from barking in response. Anyway, I did a little energy work on it, took a shower and when I came downstairs, all gone! From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence yeah, it is a non-local seeing. I sometimes put attention on the dog to see if I can figure out what to do, and sometimes I just have to stop my mind from barking in response. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Cool! What's also fun about this experience, is that there's only one row of peeps in front of me, the huge majority of them are behind me. Nonetheless, in my mind's eye I saw those ovals of light anyway! Now if I could only get the neighborhood dog to stop barking! What idiots leave a dog out on such a cold day?! From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence I used to always see the others in the room during flying, like that - had my eyes closed, but everyone showed up clearly, and proportionately, as light beings. Always turned into that, myself, when flying. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nabby, fun coincidence that you are talking about this and I had an experience in the Dome this morning that I've never had before. My eyes were closed and in my mind's eye, I saw all the other women as ovals of white light. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 4:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
I wasn't talking about TM. Please read it again. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Turq did practise TM for a number of years. If what you say is true, TM was a total failure. This seems to be a problem with spiritual techniques in general, that most of the time they fail, if we go by our view of the persons practising them, and even according what these persons they say to us about their experiences. Success is rare. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, preliminary. The thing about experiences, even intermittent witnessing, is that some people collect these experiences, while remaining unchanged, themselves. Driven by egoic fear. It is like being a tourist of higher-consciousness experiences. I did listen to a bit of the Sat Shree interview and he says a veil, separating him from the rest of the universe, was torn open, with no possibility of being repaired. To live Being, silence, and bliss, is a far different thing, than collecting, I saw this, and, this happened once, and, for awhile, this other thing happened. Enlightenment is not an aggregate, a museum, or even, a mausoleum, of experiences - that's how religions get born, in the graveyards of memories, of higher consciousness. Experiences, as seen in the mind, continually shrink - very unsatisfying, whereas enlightenment constantly, effortlessly taps that font of creativity and expansion [pure awareness], renewing itself, so the mind, when it does act, has no need to rely on stale and shrinking memories - it can go anywhere it chooses, or just rest empty, in pure awareness. Once everything is available, there is no longer a need to collect experiences of any variety, no matter how tantalizing their memory may be. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Turq hasn't had any spiritual experiences in his whole life. Forty-five years ago he experienced a few days of witnessing in Fiuggji, but that's only a preliminary experience. Yet he likes to brag about it even today, decades later. Later he had some hallucinations about his Buddhist-guru, the Lenz-guy who killed himself while wearing a dog-collar around his neck, levitating. And that's it. The fact is that the Turq-fellow never had any spiritual experiences at all. Yet he judge others, what a phony.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Meet Bob: The Man Who Teaches Meditation To Middle-School Students, Celebrities, And The Homeless Alike
Nothing appears under this Nabby post. It's probably an article about Bob Roth. I wonder how the parents of these middle school students feel about having their kids taught meditation by the creepy preacher from Poltergeist? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meet Bob: The Man Who Teaches Meditation To Middle-School Students, Celebrities, And The Homeless Alike - See more at: http://www.tm.org/blog/people/meet-bob-the-man-who-teaches-meditation/?leadsource=CRM1407#sthash.9cwaqDIY.dpuf
