[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-20 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-20 Thread Llundrub
I agree with Sal and Sparaig re consenting adults and IMO, anyone who thinks Monica didn't know exactly what she was doing is a tad naive. If someone is forced, then it becomes more than a private matter but you seem to assume that these women were so outgunned they couldn't exert any

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-20 Thread Llundrub
The way that can be spoken is not the Constant Way. Enlightenment isn't something you can describe, so why try?It's fun!--I can describe it but you won't understand or like my description. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] 'LBJ W/Two Failed Deceptive War Policies...'

2005-06-20 Thread Robert Gimbel
Interesting to note, that we must have somehow forgotten the lesson of Viet Nam. And that is, that you can't run a deceptive war successfully. I wonder how Mr.Bush, would have done; Hadthese 'Downing Street Memos, been released before this past election? And his approval rating was hitting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-20 Thread TurquoiseB
The way that can be spoken is not the Constant Way. Enlightenment isn't something you can describe, so why try? It's fun! --I can describe it but you won't understand or like my description. I try to stay out of discussions about what is enlightenment, attempts to *define* it in

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-20 Thread TurquoiseB
Enlightenment/Awakening doesn't appear; ignorance dissappears. Good. But I'd say that even this is problematic, because people have different interpretations of what the word 'ignorance' means. I'd say something like, Enlightenment doesn't appear; the perception of it not

[FairfieldLife] Anti - UK feelings spread

2005-06-20 Thread chandashari
Brit-bashing sentiments are seen to raise their head Yes, Unstressor - it is a puzzler, is it not? The situation is hardly clear, what with the question of the massive subsidisation of French farmers, French agricultural methods belonging more to the 1950's than to the present

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anti - UK feelings spread

2005-06-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, chandashari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brit-bashing sentiments are seen to raise their head In my case (second quote below), merely for fun. The Brits and what they call food has been fair game for hundreds of years before Maharishi issued his fatwa.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM University in South Africa

2005-06-20 Thread claudiouk
This IStruly very inspiring and the people needing to learn the most from it are MMY the TMO! Here is a parallel of how MMY himself started off before his innocence became corrupted by Western money - offering TM for free, a university for free etc and how Nature Support just kept on growing.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anti - UK feelings spread

2005-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, chandashari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brit-bashing sentiments are seen to raise their head In my case (second quote below), merely for fun. The Brits and what they call

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM University in South Africa

2005-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This IStruly very inspiring and the people needing to learn the most from it are MMY the TMO! Here is a parallel of how MMY himself started off before his innocence became corrupted by Western money - offering TM for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anti - UK feelings spread

2005-06-20 Thread claudiouk
The Anglo-French envy cordiale By Caroline Wyatt BBC Paris correspondent Paris is the most beautiful city in the world, especially on a summer's evening, when a golden light seems to glow from the rooftops. This week I walked by the River Seine and watched the Eiffel Tower begin its

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anti - UK feelings spread

2005-06-20 Thread sramanist
Excellent article above with some very apt insights, many of which maybe throw light onto why the French system suffers its inefficiencies. After all, the question initially raised was not about British food. It was about the apparent unfairness of the percentage of agricultural subsidies that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM University in South Africa

2005-06-20 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This IStruly very inspiring and the people needing to learn the most from it are MMY the TMO! Here is a parallel of how MMY himself started off before his innocence

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recert News

2005-06-20 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 6:46 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) fraudulently promoting the flying technique; Not fraudulently in MMY's eyes; ...you mean publishing photographs of hoppers in the apex of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anti - UK feelings spread

2005-06-20 Thread chandashari
Yes, My apologies - It is an emotive issue, I think I over-reacted --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sramanist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent article above with some very apt insights, many of which maybe throw light onto why the French system suffers its inefficiencies. After all,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-20 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enlightenment/Awakening doesn't appear; ignorance disappears. Good. But I'd say that even this is problematic, because people have different interpretations of what the word 'ignorance' means. I'd say something like,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-20 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The way that can be spoken is not the Constant Way. Enlightenment isn't something you can describe, so why try? It's fun! --I can describe it but you won't understand or like my description. I try to stay out of discussions

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr. Pete, I've been wondering about this while away for the weekend. I looked up 'apperception' in the dictionary ( yes, I had to :-), and I find myself unsure of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anti - UK feelings spread

2005-06-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sramanist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent article above with some very apt insights, many of which maybe throw light onto why the French system suffers its inefficiencies. After all, the question initially raised was not about British food. It was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had this problem years ago when I did video work for the some TMO productions in Fairfield. We were shooting interviews with MIU scientists regarding the 1% effect. After they would give their dogmatic spiel, I'd

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recert News

2005-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Right. And leaving out the landing photos so it looked like the person was flying across the room. That's wrong,Rick,the whole parabola

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anti - UK feelings spread

2005-06-20 Thread feste37
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sramanist [EMAIL PROTECTED] When visiting friends in France, Belgium or Austria the phrase Bon Apetit or Guten Apetite is often heard before a meal. I have been asked What is the English wish given before a meal? I have to say that we

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anti - UK feelings spread

2005-06-20 Thread claudiouk
French/EU farming subsidies are at expense of third world, as this article shows. G8 'harming Africa', charity says ActionAid is calling on the G8 nations to support fair trade The G8 group of industrialised nations has harmed Africa, a charity has said. ActionAid, part of the Make

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM University in South Africa

2005-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This IStruly very inspiring and the people needing to learn the most from it are MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recert News

2005-06-20 Thread Ingegerd
It brings back some memory of the first public arrangement with yigic flying in Norway. We were told from the International TMO to rent a big hall, invite the press and we were promised that flying Pundits from India would be the attraction. We did it all. We rented a big hall. Everybody was

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM University in South Africa

2005-06-20 Thread claudiouk
The model - a really worthy cause like spreading knowledge and health through TM, in a selfless, dedicated way that starts from very basic beginnings and gathers momentum with Nature Support - like the Seagull parable MMY once told - would work anywhere. Even SS Ravi Shankar did it with his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-20 Thread Vaj
On Jun 20, 2005, at 1:56 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: My point was simply that defining what one means by enlightenment is nice to think about, but basically illusory, because enlightenment cannot be defined in words. You can talk *around* it, but you can't actually describe it. Maybe some

[FairfieldLife] Realizing Brahman

2005-06-20 Thread Vaj
From a list I subscribe to: Q.199) Is it not correct to say that we realize Brahman when the ignorance disappears as told by Sankara? Ans.) Sankara told ‘Jnanadevatu Kaivalyam’, which means that one can achieve the grace of the Lord through the divine knowledge. Ignorance regarding the real

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip People have lots of recollections too. One of mine is that what Sparaig just said about the TM-Sidhis culturing Unity comes directly from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Recert News

2005-06-20 Thread Peter Sutphen
This is a real Indian approach to an event. It doesn't work very well in the West at all. People are too educated and do not readily defer to authority figures. They tend to trust their own experience over the sanctioned perspective. --- Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It brings back some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-20 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's been permanently blocked in my book. Not much in the way of anything to say for a lot of gas. - Original Message - From: akasha_108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Mail Archive

2005-06-20 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, I found a program that says it will download yahoo group messages. However, I am getting errors when downloading. I have emailed their tech support to fix. Will keep you posted if this works. Lemme guess:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM University in South Africa

2005-06-20 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The model - a really worthy cause like spreading knowledge and health through TM, in a selfless, dedicated way that starts from very basic beginnings and gathers momentum with Nature Support - like the Seagull parable

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is your computer slowing up a bit?

2005-06-20 Thread Ingegerd
I tried it, and I think something good happened with my PC, it runs much faster. Thank you. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mobs of yobs strike fear on the streets in Britain

2005-06-20 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Happy slap' yobs breed fear, anger June 19, 2005 By Tom Hundley

[FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-20 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just came across 21 straight posts by our prolific friend... ...but he doesn't post reams of irrelevent history. Take a glance at #58000 if you have the time to wait. However, I fear our beloved friend may vote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is your computer slowing up a bit?

2005-06-20 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried it, and I think something good happened with my PC, it runs much faster. Thank you. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your machine is not as light on

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Mail Archive

2005-06-20 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, I found a program that says it will download yahoo group messages. However, I am getting errors when downloading. I have emailed their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recert News

2005-06-20 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Right. And leaving out the landing photos so it looked like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Realizing Brahman

2005-06-20 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a list I subscribe to: Q.199) Is it not correct to say that we realize Brahman when the ignorance disappears as told by Sankara? Ans.) Sankara told `Jnanadevatu Kaivalyam', which means that one can achieve the grace

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is your computer slowing up a bit?

2005-06-20 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your machine is not as light on its toes as it used to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is your computer slowing up a bit?

2005-06-20 Thread Llundrub
Screw Norton, it's top heavy and completely sucks. Zone Alarm is better all the way around. Much simpler, infinitely smaller. Norton places like ten things in start-up and will screw your computer as much as it helps it. For defragmentation nothing is as quick as VOPT. Executive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Karmas of Gyanis

2005-06-20 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following article: i) extends the categores of Karma posted by Vaj a bit ago (from deFouw and Svoboda), ii) clarifies (perhaps) the prior

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-20 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/20/05 12:00 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just how many women did MMY allegedly sleep with and over what period of time? I know the names of 5 or 6, and there accounts of others, unnamed. The time frame seems to span mid-60's through early 70's. PErhaps all the emphasis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-20 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques on 6/19/05 11:58 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Japa on Om. Just OM by itself? - Original Message - From: Rick Archer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:26 PM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is your computer slowing up a bit?

2005-06-20 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried it, and I think something good happened with my PC, it runs much faster. Thank you. Ingegerd Samma här! Jaya Gooroo Uns! :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---

[FairfieldLife] Happy Birthday Jim Flanegin

2005-06-20 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Happy Birthday Jim Flanegin Todays the day! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go

[FairfieldLife] Re: Karmas of Gyanis

2005-06-20 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Per this framwork, if a gyani had some odd sexual and business karma, the unfoldment of such could

[FairfieldLife] re: Karunamayi

2005-06-20 Thread hinda9
That would be a very subjective judgment. Objectively speaking, in terms of sheer entertainment value, K is a garage band and A is The Beatles. Quite a show. But it's really too crass to compare on that level. Different strokes for different folks. I hope you can make it up here July 6 7 to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Mail Archive

2005-06-20 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/20/05 12:05 AM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, I found a program that says it will download yahoo group messages. However, I am getting errors when downloading. I have emailed their tech support to fix. Will keep you posted if this works. Great. Do you, or maybe some techie

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Mail Archive

2005-06-20 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/20/05 12:08 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I or Unc or someone else could work up a script to grab all posts archived on Yahoo. I don't think you want a script that grabs all posts and reposts them however. Is there any way to send them directly to the mail-archive server? Not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-20 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/20/05 12:11 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 11:58 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all Vedic caste based shit, and is not the Dharma of Liberation which is free from such

Re: [FairfieldLife] Happy Birthday Jim Flanegin

2005-06-20 Thread Llundrub
Title: Happy Birthday Jim Flanegin Happy Birthday Jim. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Happy Birthday Jim Flanegin Today’s the day! To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recert News

2005-06-20 Thread mrfishey2001
...I laugh - we were very naive - we just did whatever we where told - without reflecting at all. Ingegerd - Nice reflection Ingegerd, mine however is somewhat different. I was one of the performers during the first public event. The press waited in attendance while we were

[FairfieldLife] Newsweek: Vedic Architecture

2005-06-20 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Newsweek: Vedic Architecture http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8271979/site/newsweek Architecture: Building on Success Newsweek June 27 issue - By now, many of us have heard some of feng shui's principles: no sharp edges in the bedroom; clutter is bad energy; don't build a home at the end of

[FairfieldLife] Moon Beeja Mantra

2005-06-20 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Moon Beeja Mantra Monday is moons day. He is called Chandra or Soma in sanskrit. The mantra is a Durga, Parvati, Lalitha, Rajarajeshwari mantra. In other words a female deity mantra. Chandra Beeja Mantra to be repeated 10,000 times. Om Sreem Kreem Hraam Cham Chandraaya Namah

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-20 Thread safeite
I like the idea that moral development must precede higher spiritual attainments. Otherwise those attainments can be misused. I wonder whether this is a recommendation or a requirement. Originally it was a requirement for even learning knowledge period. But typically a teacher assesses the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-20 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques on 6/20/05 10:05 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, just OM! So I wonder whether meditating on OM by itself might make one a recluse while meditating with a longer mantra that contains OM might not, as my friend suggested in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-20 Thread Vaj
On Jun 20, 2005, at 11:33 AM, Rick Archer wrote: So I wonder whether meditating on OM by itself might make one a recluse while meditating with a longer mantra that contains OM might not, as my friend suggested in the comment I posted here yesterday. I know an entire group of people who use

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Karmas of Gyanis

2005-06-20 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Per this framwork, if a gyani had some odd sexual

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-20 Thread Llundrub
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques on 6/20/05 10:05 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, just OM! So I wonder whether meditating on OM by itself might make one a recluse while meditating with a longer mantra that contains OM might not, as my friend suggested

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Jim Flanegin

2005-06-20 Thread jim_flanegin
Boddhi, Rik Archer, Thank You both from the bottom of my heart! I was just reflecting on my life of 51 years to date and what a wonderful year it has been, thanks in large measure to the precious knowledge gleaned from FFL. Heck, I even got a new meditation technique! (advaita). I commented

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Jim Flanegin

2005-06-20 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today¹s the day! Have a Great Day, Jim! Jeff To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM University in South Africa

2005-06-20 Thread scienceofabundance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A good friend of mine visited this school a few yrs ago. Though the tmo promotes this as a tm university, my friend said its success is based on the fact that the founders are true humanitarians, not tm

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM University in South Africa

2005-06-20 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless the TMO has pulled out very recently, this is very much a TMO school. I know something about its history as I was tangentially involved when it was first set up. One (sort of) side note is that MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM University in South Africa

2005-06-20 Thread scienceofabundance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your info seems better than mine. Is it your impression though that the school administrators operate quite independently from the tmo central command? How is it that the school was forced to back down from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Karmas of Gyanis

2005-06-20 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Jim Flanegin

2005-06-20 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today¹s the day! Happy CC, Happy CG, Happy Unity to Jim! Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Karmas of Gyanis

2005-06-20 Thread Vaj
On Jun 20, 2005, at 12:31 PM, akasha_108 wrote: I don't really think alot about karma because it is quite complex. Same with most people it appears. Which is natural, I just find it amusing when those who have little knowledge or appreciation of it imply that it is silly -- al la Ricks

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-20 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip That's certainly a polite way of pointing out the Indian position on truthfulness. This Indian

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Jim Flanegin

2005-06-20 Thread marekreavis
I'll piggyback onto the Happy B-day well-wishing, too, Jim. Always enjoy your posts and agree with your evaluation of FFL. It's a treasure for sure. Thanks for contributing your insights and experiences. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-20 Thread Bhairitu
Llundrub wrote: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques on 6/20/05 10:05 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, just OM! So I wonder whether meditating on OM by itself might make one a recluse while meditating with a longer mantra that contains OM might not, as my friend

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Karmas of Gyanis

2005-06-20 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/20/05 11:47 AM, Jeff Fischer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Re: Karma) While it may be hogwash, coming to that conclusion should at least include some knowledge of its theory and application. Event: About 2

[FairfieldLife] Re: Karmas of Gyanis

2005-06-20 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 20, 2005, at 12:31 PM, akasha_108 wrote: I don't really think alot about karma because it is quite complex. Same with most people it appears. Which is natural, I just find it amusing when those who have

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM University in South Africa

2005-06-20 Thread claudiouk
South Africa has had and exceeded its superradiance number for the past several years - this really newsworthy information has been rather hidden from view, for some reason. On the other hand although much progress has happened in SA, one in three of the population, or some similarly

Re: [FairfieldLife] Terror capital: Delhi is the new militant haven

2005-06-20 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 6/19/05 11:49:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Delhi Police special cell alone has arrested 13 militants and gunned down another five in encounters, carried out since January 1, 2005. A senior police official said, the figures indicate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Karmas of Gyanis

2005-06-20 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Scientology believes in reincarnation? Has it as part of it's auditing process? That's the experience of people, more than a belief. If you have a problem it's usually rooted in an earlier, similar event. You keep

[FairfieldLife] Smarta teachings of Guru Dev

2005-06-20 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
It seems Guru Dev taught a variant of the 'Smarta' teaching of Shankara. His own guru, Dandi Swami Krishnanand Saraswati was attached to Shringeri Math which has a tradition for this teaching. Does anyone know anything they wish to share about this Indian teaching? To subscribe, send a

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-20 Thread Ingegerd
I find it real peculiar that with the Householders Mantras, people try to live in celebacy and be a recluse. It does not make sense to me. If you meditate with a Householders Mantra, then you should be very active in society, otherwise it will cause stress. In the earlier days young people

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-20 Thread Llundrub
I have never had a guru. - Original Message - From: Bhairitu To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques Llundrub wrote:Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniqueson 6/20/05 10:05 AM, Llundrub at

Re: [FairfieldLife] Smarta teachings of Guru Dev

2005-06-20 Thread Llundrub
The smarta teachings? Sri Shankara tried to pull all the various Hindu traditions, Dravidian, and otherwise, into five main deities so as to unify Hinduism into a recognizable sort of package. Smarta means that one basically is Hindu as we know it, that is, accepting the apurushaya Veda

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-20 Thread Llundrub
Inge, there are no householder mantras and no recluse mantras. These are TMO ideas. There are Shaiva mantras and Shakta mantras. - Original Message - From: Ingegerd To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 12:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM University in South Africa

2005-06-20 Thread claudiouk
Here's an extract from the university's webpage... CIDA offers education methods to awaken the genius within education that works. `Works' means education that actually develops you and your abilities in every way, so that by the time you graduate you are bigger, deeper, wider, in fact `more'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Karmas of Gyanis

2005-06-20 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following article: i) extends the categores of Karma posted by

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-20 Thread Ingegerd
Well. I have been some time in the TMO, so most of what I know is from MMY - and what he says about Householder Mantras and the balance between silence and activity. So what you are saying is new for me and interesting. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-20 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/20/05 12:35 PM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it real peculiar that with the Householders Mantras, people try to live in celebacy and be a recluse. It does not make sense to me. If you meditate with a Householders Mantra, then you should be very active in society, otherwise

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-20 Thread Bhairitu
Interesting. In the tradition I'm with now one can actually practice the mantra while in activity. I was even told to try it while driving on the way home and though a little dubious did and found that my awareness was increased (but don't try this with the TM mantra). On my TTC many

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-20 Thread Bhairitu
Exactly and that is why you are using long mantras. ;-) The guru mantra is a mantra that has been passed down in a tradition. It is the key mantra (also referred to as a beej mantra though in a different sense than beej aksharas) that is used to enliven other mantras. They are very powerful

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Jim Flanegin

2005-06-20 Thread jim_flanegin
Thanks Marek! I'll look forward to your postings also! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll piggyback onto the Happy B-day well-wishing, too, Jim. Always enjoy your posts and agree with your evaluation of FFL. It's a treasure for sure. Thanks

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Jim Flanegin

2005-06-20 Thread gullible fool
Happy Birthday, Jim. Jim, did you know you were born a mere eleven days after an illustrious Raja? --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boddhi, Rik Archer, Thank You both from the bottom of my heart! I was just reflecting on my life of 51 years to date and what a wonderful

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-20 Thread Ingegerd
In what tradition do you belong? Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly and that is why you are using long mantras. ;-) The guru mantra is a mantra that has been passed down in a tradition. It is the key mantra (also referred to as a beej

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM University in South Africa

2005-06-20 Thread scienceofabundance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: South Africa has had and exceeded its superradiance number for the past several years - this really newsworthy information has been rather hidden from view, for some reason. On the other hand although much progress

[FairfieldLife] in reference to Ingegerd message 58082

2005-06-20 Thread gerbal88
I once meditated in 12 hours - and came out quite dizzy, it was rather dangerous. So in the beginning of the Movement it seems that MMY and we were learning by doing. The strongest survived. -- Ingegerd Hi, Ingegerd - for some reason, my machine isn't letting me reply directly to your message,

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-20 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/20/05 12:35 PM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it real peculiar that with the Householders Mantras, people try to live in celebacy and be a recluse. It does not make sense to me. If you meditate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recert News

2005-06-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was in R.I. for the Ideal Society campaign. It was a manageable size town and we were talking to the guys on the City council. Most were fairly positive but non commital. At a meeting of the entire council,

[FairfieldLife] re: gyani's karma

2005-06-20 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- http://www.mudgala.com/articles/gyani_actions.html (snip) Per this framwork, if a gyani had some odd

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-20 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip That's

[FairfieldLife] Those were the daze?

2005-06-20 Thread cardemaister
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Smarta teachings of Guru Dev

2005-06-20 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
The tatvas, the five elemental forms of existence, earth (Prithvi), fire (Agni), space/sky/ether (Akasha) , air (Vayu) , and water (Jala). The five deities Ganesh, Surya, Vishnu, Shiva and Shakti/Devi. Lots of others fives too, five planets, five senses, five offerings... I believe this belief

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