[FairfieldLife] Re: The Chip Charleston that I knew -

2006-12-08 Thread mahdeealoo
He's the reason I took 4 years of every psychology class he taught that the school offered, and the dreaded statistics too. He did genuinely care about each of his students. Even the ones that came in with hangovers that slept through class. I'm surprised that he didn't keep pillows in his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vyaasa's bhaaSya: entering another's body (III 37), part 1

2006-12-08 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: loliibhuutasya manaso 'pratiSThasya sharire karmaashayavashaad bandhaH pratiSThetyarthaH | Sandhi-vigraha: lolii[?typo; should be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Let's talk about something different

2006-12-08 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter wrote: I had tantric sex with her for a couple of hours yesterday... You are supposed to see the film BEFORE you make your comments, Peter. Oh time

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vyaasa's bhaaSya: entering another's body (III 37), part 1

2006-12-08 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tasya karmaNo bandhakaaraNasya shaithilyaM samaadhibalaad bhavati | Relaxation (shaithilyam) of that (tasya) [of] binding[making](bandha-kaaraNasya) of karma (karmanaH) becomes (bhavati) from the power (balaat) [of]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vyaasa's bhaaSya: entering another's body (III 37), part 1

2006-12-08 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: loliibhuutasya manaso 'pratiSThasya sharire karmaashayavashaad bandhaH pratiSThetyarthaH | tasya karmaNo bandhakaaraNasya shaithilyaM samaadhibalaad bhavati | pracaarasaMvedanaM ca cittasya samaadhijam eva and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sam Harris: Reply to Nicholas Kristof

2006-12-08 Thread Vaj
On Dec 7, 2006, at 10:34 PM, quantum packet wrote: How did religion acquire its extraordinary immunity against normal levels of criticism? Uh, do you remember Salman Rushdie? How about Theo Van Gogh?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moral Choices, Build another pundit campus?

2006-12-08 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: snip Not much like Harvard or Yale actually. The integrity is way higher much more transparent at the real universities.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread Peter
People make a mistake when they view advaitin teachings as presenting conceptual models of Realization for a waking state intellect. For the waking state intellect they are obviously lacking as you and others have pointed out. It doesn't mean what they say is false or wrong, its just that they are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moral Choices, Build another pundit campus?

2006-12-08 Thread Peter
--- dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, yours is a good synopsis of how a lot of meditator people feel here. It (hold the nose and go) is a moral choice and also about integrity. You live in FF and count yourself in the domes? You go to the domes? Would you if you live

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vyaasa's bhaaSya: entering another's body (III 37), part 1

2006-12-08 Thread cardemaister
karmabandhakSayaat svacittasya pracaarasaMvedanaacca yogii cittaM svashariiraanniSkRtya shariiraantareSu nikSipati karmabandhakSayaat svacittasya From destroying (kSayaat) the karmabondage (karma- bandha) _of_ his own mind (sva-citta_sya_) pracaarasaMvedanaacca and (ca) from

[FairfieldLife] Chip Charleston Memorial Service CHANGE IN TIME

2006-12-08 Thread feste37
The memorial service for Chip Charleston will be held upstairs at Revelations on Sunday, December 10 at 8.00 p.m. (Not 7:30. p.m. as previously announced.)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Chip Charleston that I knew -

2006-12-08 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 8, 2006, at 2:00 AM, mahdeealoo wrote: You might remember him by his stature. Tall, lanky, dark wavy hair. Long face. An ear to ear smile. He looked a bit like a cross between George Harrison and Jeff Goldblum, the actor. In the years I knew him (from about 1988) he always wore

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People make a mistake when they view advaitin teachings as presenting conceptual models of Realization for a waking state intellect. For the waking state intellect they are obviously lacking as you and others have pointed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch goes into coffee biz

2006-12-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know you have to go. But this is really important: Tell me about your new line of coffee. David Lynch Signature Cup. It's the coffee I drink. And I really love drinking coffee. I've heard that. I wish

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris: Reply to Nicholas Kristof

2006-12-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 7, 2006, at 10:34 PM, quantum packet wrote: How did religion acquire its extraordinary immunity against normal levels of criticism? Uh, do you remember Salman Rushdie? How about Theo Van Gogh? er, Martin

[FairfieldLife] DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS-- Urgent Need for In-town Housing

2006-12-08 Thread Rick Archer
Dome Announcements [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:50:28 -0600 Subject: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS-- Urgent Need for In-town Housing From: Dome Announcements [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dome-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Community Members, The winter holiday break promises to bring us the most

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch goes into coffee biz

2006-12-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: I know you have to go. But this is really important: Tell me about your new line of coffee. David Lynch Signature Cup. It's the coffee

[FairfieldLife] Please forward to all friends of the Charlestons and please come

2006-12-08 Thread Rick Archer
In Loving Memory Dodds Chip Charleston Share a memory Show support Say good bye. When: Sunday, December 10, 8:00 p.m. Where: Revelations, upstairs room. (Enter through door to the left of the main entrance For more information, contact Julie Guttmann, 472-1728.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People make a mistake when they view advaitin teachings as presenting conceptual models of Realization for a waking state intellect. For the waking state intellect they are obviously lacking as you and others have pointed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moral Choices, Build another pundit campus?

2006-12-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip Yeah, yours is a good synopsis of how a lot of meditator people feel here. It (hold the nose and go) is a moral choice and also about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch goes into coffee biz

2006-12-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: I know you have to go. But this is really important: Tell me about

[FairfieldLife] To my friends of Yogavisionaries and Wisdom Magazine/Lou Valentino

2006-12-08 Thread Lsoma
12/08/2006 Dear Friends of Yogavisionaries and Wisdom Magazine: For all of you who are enjoying my astrological columns in Wisdom magazine could you please write or call the publisher to let her know that you are enjoying reading my monthly columns. She had received a less than positive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: People make a mistake when they view advaitin teachings as presenting conceptual models of Realization for a waking state intellect. For the

[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA Caper

2006-12-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
sparaig wrote: What was the title of Skolnick's JAMA article, which is what Judy was referring to. No, I was referring to Skolnick's Hoodwinked article which appeared in Skeptical Enquirer, that's why I said it was called the Hoodwinked article. That's why this thread is called JAMA Caper -

[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA Caper

2006-12-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
Chopra did sue Skolnick jstein wrote: No, as you know, Chopra did not sue Skolnick. There seems to be some confusion on this: Chopra at the time WAS the TMO and he owned MAPI and the Lancaster Foundation. Apparently Chopra was a Plaintive in the suit. What's up with that? From: Judy Stein

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vyaasa's bhaaSya: entering another's body (III 37), part 1

2006-12-08 Thread cardemaister
| karmabandhakSayaat svacittasya pracaarasaMvedanaacca yogii cittaM svashariiraanniSkRtya shariiraantareSu nikSipati | nikSiptaM cittaM cendriyaaNyanu patanti | (nikSiptam; cittam; ca + indriyaaNi + anu patanti) And (ca) the senses (indriyaaNi) follow (anu patanti) the nikSipt-ed [nikSiptam:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: People make a mistake when they view advaitin teachings as presenting

[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA Caper

2006-12-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chopra did sue Skolnick jstein wrote: No, as you know, Chopra did not sue Skolnick. There seems to be some confusion on this: Chopra at the time WAS the TMO and he owned MAPI and the Lancaster

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch goes into coffee biz

2006-12-08 Thread nablusos108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: I know you have to go. But this is really important: Tell me about your new line of coffee. David Lynch Signature Cup. It's the coffee

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moral Choices, Build another pundit campus?

2006-12-08 Thread nablusos108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: snip Not much like Harvard or Yale actually. The integrity

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch goes into coffee biz

2006-12-08 Thread nablusos108
- He is definitely not Guru Dev, Brahmananda Saraswati, reincarnated. His Holiness has not incarnated on the earth at this time. Why do you suggest such things? Hello Jim ! You seem to possess Knowledge due to Sattwa in your life. And you are right, Guru Dev, Brahmananda Saraswathi is not

[FairfieldLife] 'I read the news today, oh boy!'

2006-12-08 Thread Robert Gimbel
The Decider , December 8, 2006 (I read the news today, oh boy... It is all a blur of chocolate chips and Chinese peanut butter to me. People sat in the wrong places and wore the wrong hats. The Admiral dealt me three 6's during a hand of baseball, but I folded without revealing it.

[FairfieldLife] 'I read the news today, oh boy!'

2006-12-08 Thread Robert Gimbel
The Decider , December 8, 2006 (I read the news today, oh boy... It is all a blur of chocolate chips and Chinese peanut butter to me. People sat in the wrong places and wore the wrong hats. The Admiral dealt me three 6's during a hand of baseball, but I folded without revealing it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moral Choices, Build another pundit campus?

2006-12-08 Thread ffia1120
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread Peter
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turq's description seems closer to an intellectual argument presented to those practicing more of a mindfulness technique while remaining in the waking state, so the challenge is constantly to the waking state

[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA Caper

2006-12-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
There seems to be some confusion on this: Chopra at the time WAS the TMO and he owned MAPI and the Lancaster Foundation. jstein wrote: No, he owned neither, as you know. (And MAPI, of course, as you know, was not involved in the suit.) From what I've read, Chopra founded and owned MAPI

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vyaasa's bhaaSya: entering another's body (III 37), part 1

2006-12-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
cardemaister wrote: loliibhuutasya manaso 'pratiSThasya sharire karmaashayavashaad bandhaH pratiSThetyarthaH | tasya karmaNo bandhakaaraNasya shaithilyaM samaadhibalaad bhavati | pracaarasaMvedanaM ca cittasya samaadhijameva | karmabandhakSayaat svacittasya pracaarasaMvedanaacca yogii

[FairfieldLife] Lynch's 'Inland Empire'

2006-12-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
In the arthouse world, David Lynch's self-distribbed, experimental Inland Empire will roll out in limited release in Boston and Gotham. Read more: 'Apocalypto a box office wild card' By Ian Mohr Variety, December 7, 2006 http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117955277.html?categoryid=13cs=1

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moral Choices, Build another pundit campus?

2006-12-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip Yeah, yours is a good synopsis of how a lot of meditator

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch goes into coffee biz

2006-12-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: People make a mistake when they view advaitin teachings as presenting conceptual models of Realization for a waking state intellect. For the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch goes into coffee biz

2006-12-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: I know you have to go. But this is really important: Tell me about

[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA Caper

2006-12-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Chopra did sue Skolnick jstein wrote: No, as you know, Chopra did not sue Skolnick. There seems to be some confusion on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch goes into coffee biz

2006-12-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Turq's description seems closer to an intellectual argument presented to those practicing more of a mindfulness technique while remaining in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: In general, those who don't get the advaita approach have not had the direct experience of realization. For those who have, they make sense. You're

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch goes into coffee biz

2006-12-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Turq's description seems closer to an intellectual argument presented to those practicing more of a mindfulness technique while remaining in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moral Choices, Build another pundit campus?

2006-12-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Turq's description seems closer to an intellectual argument presented to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch goes into coffee biz

2006-12-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - He is definitely not Guru Dev, Brahmananda Saraswati, reincarnated. His Holiness has not incarnated on the earth at this time. Why do you suggest such things? Hello Jim ! You seem to possess Knowledge due

[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA Caper

2006-12-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There seems to be some confusion on this: Chopra at the time WAS the TMO and he owned MAPI and the Lancaster Foundation. jstein wrote: No, he owned neither, as you know. (And MAPI, of course, as you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip No purification is required to experience realization. Realization is present

[FairfieldLife] Nisargadatta Maharaj

2006-12-08 Thread hyperbolicgeometry
One might construe N's orientation as being fully non-attached ...or not; perhaps he lacks interest in relative considerations. Being external obserers, we don't know what the true situation is for sure. It's analogous to a Turing machine test: either a computer or a real person is answering

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread Vaj
On Dec 8, 2006, at 4:54 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Yup. And that of dozens of my friends and hundreds of people within the traditions I have studied. They have actually *had* the experience of realization, unlike some traditions that can only talk about it in theory and come up with excuses for why

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip No

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip No purification is required to experience realization. Realization is present at every moment and has always been present at every moment of one's life. There was no moment in which one was ever *not* realized.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread yhvhworld
---Vaj, but this is the initial stage, ...even from the POV of your Guru, Chogyal Namkhai Norbu, complete, continuous realization requires at least, time and abundant practice. Perhaps Norbu is missing an important point regarding bodily purification; and...I contend, MMY's fund of knowledge

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread Vaj
On Dec 8, 2006, at 6:41 PM, yhvhworld wrote: ---Vaj, but this is the initial stage, ...even from the POV of your Guru, Chogyal Namkhai Norbu, complete, continuous realization requires at least, time and abundant practice. Perhaps Norbu is missing an important point regarding bodily

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 8, 2006, at 6:41 PM, yhvhworld wrote: ---Vaj, but this is the initial stage, ...even from the POV of your Guru, Chogyal Namkhai Norbu, complete, continuous realization requires at least, time and abundant

Re: [FairfieldLife] Nisargadatta Maharaj

2006-12-08 Thread Peter
--- hyperbolicgeometry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One might construe N's orientation as being fully non-attached ...or not; perhaps he lacks interest in relative considerations. Being external obserers, we don't know what the true situation is for sure. It's analogous to a Turing machine

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: People make a mistake when they view advaitin teachings as presenting conceptual models of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Dec 8, 2006, at 6:41 PM, yhvhworld wrote: ---Vaj, but this is the initial stage, ...even from the POV of your Guru, Chogyal Namkhai Norbu,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Torquise B srites snipped: No purification is required to experience realization. Jim Flanegin writes snipped from longer piece: Right. The experience of Realization can be had by anyone, any time. But in order to sustain Realization, purification must occur. I think it was Muktananda who said

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **Snip** Still another way of looking at it is that it is a choice *only in retrospect*, i.e., from the perspective of realization, but not from the waking-state perspective (Knowledge is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Build another pundit campus?

2006-12-08 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch goes into coffee biz

2006-12-08 Thread nablusos108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 nablusos108@ wrote: - He is definitely not Guru Dev, Brahmananda Saraswati, reincarnated. His Holiness has not incarnated on the earth at this time. Why

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread mathatbrahman
---You mean the question of free will. The jury's out on this question, which we (and philosophers going back thousands of years), have gone over before. Choice may or may not really exist; but in any event, our lack of knowledge concerning the future, and karmic interactions in general,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: **Snip** Still another way of looking at it is that it is a choice *only in retrospect*, i.e., from the perspective

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mathatbrahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---You mean the question of free will. The jury's out on this question, which we (and philosophers going back thousands of years), have gone over before. If there's a jury involved, the wrong question is being

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread nablusos108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 8, 2006, at 6:41 PM, yhvhworld wrote: ---Vaj, but this is the initial stage, ...even from the POV of your Guru, Chogyal Namkhai Norbu, complete, continuous realization requires at least, time and abundant

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread Marek Reavis
Yes. I totally agree. And just as an aside, I like your moniker. I don't use one now, but when I first posted here I used 'nothoughtdas'. Kind of fun to get to play with the name/form thing on a forum like this. The moniker-thing is an interesting part of it. Nisargadatta never fails to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread nablusos108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mathatbrahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---You mean the question of free will. The jury's out on this question, which we (and philosophers going back thousands of years), have gone over before. Choice may or may not really exist; but in any event,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread tanhlnx
---Thanks, I believe I read those 3 books, while standing in the local New Age bookstore for 20 min. I've seen books that taut certain Gurus with having supernatural knowledge of past, present, and future. Sai Baba claims to be one of these Omniscient Gurus; but invariably, (to dream up a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Young Pundits in Love

2006-12-08 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A typical Rick post. Some people can't bear to hear of the TMO being successful and accomplishing its goals, so they have to stoop as low as they can to try to destabilize things. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta Maharaj

2006-12-08 Thread nablusos108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hyperbolicgeometry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One might construe N's orientation as being fully non- attached ...or not; perhaps he lacks interest in relative considerations. Being external obserers, we don't know what the true situation is for sure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch goes into coffee biz

2006-12-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 nablusos108@ wrote: - He is definitely not Guru Dev, Brahmananda Saraswati,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread Vaj
On Dec 8, 2006, at 9:27 PM, nablusos108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 8, 2006, at 6:41 PM, yhvhworld wrote: ---Vaj, but this is the initial stage, ...even from the POV of your Guru, Chogyal Namkhai Norbu, complete, continuous

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread kaladevi93
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 8, 2006, at 6:41 PM, yhvhworld wrote: ---Vaj, but this is the initial stage, ...even from the POV of your Guru, Chogyal Namkhai Norbu, complete, continuous realization requires at least, time and abundant

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Dec 8, 2006, at 6:41 PM, yhvhworld wrote: ---Vaj, but this is the initial stage, ...even from the POV of your Guru, Chogyal Namkhai Norbu,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread Peter
--- Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. I totally agree. And just as an aside, I like your moniker. I don't use one now, but when I first posted here I used 'nothoughtdas'. Kind of fun to get to play with the name/form thing on a forum like this. The moniker-thing is an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread matrixmonitor
---On a conceptual basis, yes...Dzogchen takes place somehow beyond all progressions, and (as Vaj so astutely pointed out); doesn't involve the transmission of Shakti (unlike Muktananda's Shaktipat). But on a practical basis, (as Vaj so unastutely failed to mention); one (the aspirant) is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Dec 8, 2006, at 6:41 PM, yhvhworld wrote: ---Vaj, but this is the initial stage, ...even from the POV of your Guru, Chogyal Namkhai Norbu,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 8, 2006, at 4:54 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Yup. And that of dozens of my friends and hundreds of people within the traditions I have studied. They have actually *had* the experience of realization, unlike some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 8, 2006, at 6:41 PM, yhvhworld wrote: ---Vaj, but this is the initial stage, ...even from the POV of your Guru, Chogyal Namkhai Norbu, complete, continuous realization requires at least, time and abundant

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: People make a mistake when they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: **Snip** Still another way of looking at it is that it is a choice *only in retrospect*, i.e., from the perspective of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread Vaj
On Dec 8, 2006, at 10:22 PM, kaladevi93 wrote: You mean like one of Mahesh's beautiful and primary students recently going insane? Thanks for reminding me. I'm sure Vaj might agree, he's mentioned it before here: Dzogchen begins where Unity ends. At least that's the gist of Shearer's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread Vaj
On Dec 8, 2006, at 10:49 PM, matrixmonitor wrote: ---On a conceptual basis, yes...Dzogchen takes place somehow beyond all progressions, and (as Vaj so astutely pointed out); doesn't involve the transmission of Shakti (unlike Muktananda's Shaktipat). But on a practical basis, (as Vaj so

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread nablusos108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Dec 8, 2006, at 6:41 PM, yhvhworld wrote: ---Vaj, but this is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 8, 2006, at 10:22 PM, kaladevi93 wrote: You mean like one of Mahesh's beautiful and primary students recently going insane? Thanks for reminding me. I'm sure Vaj might agree, he's mentioned it before

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread qntmpkt
---Thanks, you're definitely right about the Rainbow Light Body, but it remains to be seen if anybody outside of secluded parts of Tibet will be able to acquire this type of body. This is a hope-for goal in the category of progressive evolution. Evidence suggests that it's at the end of a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch goes into coffee biz

2006-12-08 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: I know you have to go. But this is really important: Tell me about your new line of coffee. David Lynch Signature Cup. It's the coffee

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread nablusos108
But you are in direct contradiction to his teaching. You are presenting both a false Path and a false View. One is tempted to assume therfore that your View is false Gary. As mentioned before; as the success of the Invincible America grows stronger, Vaj is getting more desperate and his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 8, 2006, at 10:22 PM, kaladevi93 wrote: You mean like one of Mahesh's beautiful and primary students recently going insane? Thanks for reminding me. I'm sure Vaj might agree, he's mentioned it before

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread qntmpkt
---Thanks, to back track a few months to Vaj's erronous and distorted notion that TM is dualist, to repeat another contributor's reply: that what's dualist or otherwise depends on the Consciousness of the aspirant, rather than the technique. But let's take Vaj's Guru: Norbu Rinpoche. He conducts

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta quote

2006-12-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Perhaps it is the self-sufficiency of TM that bothers you- no complex intellectual traditions, or direct transmissions from the Master needed. Just plain old TM leading to plain old Realization. Complete,

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