I think it means that you are looking for a little drama today.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
What I find VERY interesting is that no one is writing about you all on
the_peak. And yet, how many times have you all written about them?! LOL! It's
gotta mean
Great post. Here was the idea in it I would like to riff on.
States of mind to enhance enjoyment when listening:
Reggae weed
Blues One Bourbon, One Scotch and one Beer
Early Beatles pubescent hysteria
Sargent Pepper and Hendrix Acid
Disco Coke (sniff sniff) and
Barry must be your guru because I have never seen such devotion since
Maharishi died.
The Police - Every Breath You Take (With Lyrics)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH_YbBHVF4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH_YbBHVF4g
The Police - Every Breath You Take (With Lyrics)
Why don't you stop being such a negative troublemaker and start a conversation
here like the rest of us? I get it, you don't like my posts. The place is not
gunna shut down because the world does not revolve around you. Post here, post
there, but for the love of the infant baby Jesus trying to
I really enjoyed that, thanks for posting. Many good points I agree with and a
few I don't. I do think that George had a brain event that is more than just
imagination. I believe that his ability to distinguish between internal and
external experience was drastically compromised. Just a
It seems to me that the same issues you brought up about verifying such claims
pertain to the question of how could a human know such a thing in the first
place? Most traditions that propose such theories seem to resort to: God wrote
this book to account for how a human could get this kind
Officially it never would have happened. I had a hook up on the library staff
and these were transcripts that were under official radar. It helped me
understand the different eras of Maharishi's presentation better both in the
movement and now that I am out. He was a guy who learned as he
This place can be very useful or articulating how you are thinking about
complex topics, as well as integrating past and present perspectives. I would
gladly extend our conversation to see what areas are of mutual interest, or
even just as a writing prompt for divergent views. I appreciate
Fantastic interview, thanks for posting.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Donovan On teaching guitar technique to Beatles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3tWkyYXcLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3tWkyYXcLc
Donovan On teaching guitar
What other response can you make to a desire for one poster to stop other
people from communicating with each other because he doesn't like what they are
talking about. That picture saved me a lot of words, thanks.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :
---In
Nice talking points on George, I'm glad you took the time to post them. As food
for thought it was certainly a success. I liked your comparison with literature
and if he had presented it as a dramatic one man show he had created, I would
feel differently about the whole thing. He is a
If you had only written this line:
the Movement (light beam superhero team)
It would have been worth the read! But the rest of it was great too. I can't
say I really walked in with an open mind. But I was willing to let George make
a case and then evaluate it from there. I didn't see him
You know how powerful silence is right Buck? So I think your best move is to
go into a deep silence of non posting here and the power of that silence is
just sure to pull us all in with you.
You obviously have a need to become a leader, so this is your moment to lead us
all into silence.
It was his idea, not mine. He is calling for silence and I am saying start us
off, lead by example.
Linking this to tragic news events is seriously trollish and shitty Richard.
What is your deal?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 12/6/2014 10:15 AM,
I believe Alex's vivid image of you pissing in the wind on your attempt to
ascend into a position of control of this group is apt.
The only way is could happen would be if a lot of people really, really wanted
you to. Not by you mounting what seems to be a coup attempt through whining.
You
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 12/5/2014 10:43 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I believe Alex's vivid image of you pissing in the wind on your attempt to
ascend into a position of control of this group is apt.
You just don't seem to get it, Curtis.
You might want to brush up on your concept reading comprehension. Here is the
hint to focus on: Pre
You are attempting to subvert this socially loaded buzzword concept into a
personal shield for your behavior here by ignoring that any judgement coming
your way is post not pre. It is based
I'd say he has this place nailed down pretty well. He is is obviously not new
to reading posts here. Read what he wrote to Share for a very insightful
naildown of the dynamic here.
And I would like to offer a counter POV on what is happening here. I would say
that FFL is awakening from a
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
Rick could initiate this peace by instilling a period of silent reflection.
Let there be peace on FFL; let there be total silence on FFL for a period of
time,
-Buck
C: Lead by example Buck. I will enjoy the period of your
-In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 12/2/2014 8:36 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I don't know what you are talking about Buck.
Maybe so, Curtis, but Jim didn't call the police and fink on anyone. Do you
have any comments on that?
C: Sure Richard, I welcome
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
Re Sometimes nice gets in the way of getting to the bottom of philosophical
differences.:
On 12/2/2014 11:31 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Like you, I think that in the thought experiment
Says the guy who uses the objectionable phrase in his HEADING! Nabbie you are
not the friend of truth. I don't know why you took such a weird turn here, but
good by and good riddance (who else know that was spelled that way? I had to
resort to spell check. I guess I have never written it!)
But
Richard,
I don't appreciate your adding quotes to old posts to make it look as if I said
things I did not. You are a dishonest malicious troll and I wish you would join
the rest of your kind on the other site.
Curtis
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On
Decided to focus your troll routine on me have you Riichard? On the heels of
me treating you decently by entering into a discussion with you? OK
This was selected out of an interesting discussion about power and sex. Like a
giggling ten year old, you insist on taking the whole discussion out
What you have done is to cut quotes out of context combining things I said with
things I did not say and putting quotes around all of it signing my screen name
to it as if I had.
You are a liar and a troll Richard. Now you are making more accusations about
me below attempting to get a rise out
Yes Richard I have posted here and had conversations with people who don't have
a 10 years old's sense of fixation on words like boner. I remember that
exchange and who I was trying to make laugh with that reference. That is why I
know what I wrote and what I did not in that paragraph. But
Thanks brother, I needed that!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
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I don't see any evidence that Tony works unilaterally like Maharishi did and
the other guys just make his pronouncements. I could be wrong. Tony is the head
of the movement like the Queen is the head of England.
Of course I could be wrong, can you think of anything he has done that looked
like
Well if you want your counterargument to rise above you are a poopy pants
level intellectually Buck, you need to show us what you disagree with. Calling
me a skeptic is a compliment concerning noticing bad reasons to support
outrageous beliefs. John Hegelin is just as much of a skeptic about
I don't know what you are talking about Buck. Jim was one of the worst negative
name-callers on the forum for years. The place is wy better off without
him. Same with Nabbie. The post you posted on below is a blatant lie meant to
hurt the reputation of another poster through distortion of
Excellent mind exercise. Judging by how I enjoyed hanging out with movement
people with whom I have little philosophically in common at George's lecture,
I'd say jocularity would prevail. I like most people, especially people who see
the wold differently from me. I always prefer rapport over
Excellent parallel and analysis.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
I will have to agree with sincere huckster.
In retrospect who he reminds me of the most in terms of the fluidity of his
delivery and his seeming honest comfort with the outrageous stories he's
I was so punch drunk last night from the Bataan Claims March I could only
generate something flip. Thanks to anyone who enjoyed it and said so. I want to
write two more posts about the day, one from the perspective of the Maharishi
epistemology and one from my own.
Maharishi's system had
I am a brain guy. I think we need to get to the bottom of how it functions
before we can even start to make claims beyond what it produces and dealing
with worlds like what happens after we die and the brain rots away. (or gets
burned away before it rots.) From what I could tell with Maharishi,
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
So what was the atmosphere like after? Were the people receptive or did they
think he was full of vedic baloney?
I couldn't get a read because I had run into an old friend from MIU and his
wife and turned all my attention on them.
I really appreciate that. Where did you find his books? I think you are on to
something there.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... wrote :
Beautifully put, Curtis. And I agree totally. To me George seems (via
internet) a genuinely sincere person and he is responding to
Thanks, that is fascinating. I think this is why John Helgelin said it sounded
more like George than Maharishi when he heard some of the message.
There was a moment when he claimed that Maharishi used an analogy of driving
your family on vacation and the car breaking down and getting upset and
He claimed that as Brighu, he was Maharishi's dad, one of his four sons. He
also claimed that Maharishi sat on a dais with two people on his right and left
to imitate his father, himself. He told us that before he revealed who he was.
Oddly he said that Maharishi was instructing him to do it.
OK so I went. got to hang out with Jerry and Debbie a bit. That was a nice
nostalgia buzz.
I got to ask George (the presenter) my most politely posed question about why
this was the chosen method of transmission if it pretty much excluded anyone in
the movement or any person not just inclined
I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to
try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about
my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's
teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting
I am just trying to keep from being so open minded that my brains fall out!
Glad it made you laugh.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment
about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being
I think you can appreciate the distinction between making a provocative comment
a dead public figure and an actual living person who could be hurt in their
real life by such accusations right?
One of Barry's points here is that people are inordinately attached to certain
ideas, like the sacred
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
It was Judy who brought that phrase about being open minded, attributed to her
dad, after I accused her of being close minded on a topic.
C: I didn't get if from Judy or her dad. We all got it from someplace else, it
is a common
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote :
Curtis, do you really believe people are offended by Barry's button pushing
because his target is Maharishi?
C: I think that is at the heart of it. I say this because I often get personal
insult responses to things I write here
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote :
Nope. Folks didn't react to Barry because they were offended as true
believers. They were offended as human beings repulsed by the vile image of
child abuse he invoked.
C: And you could be right on the cause of offense. It is what
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
OMG, I had completely forgotten about the event tomorrow. I am so looking
forward to your take on proceedings Curtis.
I think when I checked it was happening in the middle of the night for us Brits
but I hope I get to
Buck,
Your contrived persona is obscuring your POV. I have some sympathy for your
concerns with a movement that you have invested so much in and rightfully
believe your have a right to direct its course. I see your good intentions, and
think I even get some, but not all, of the faux
I think you are right if we look at the source of the quote. He is
interpreting a Rig Vedic verse that says that the gods reside in heaven. Richo
akshare parame veyomon. (It has been decades but I think that is how you spell
it!) So at its loftiest level in his system he interprets this to
Thanks for keeping the topic going and now expanding it into another area. It
is another interest of mine. One of the questions I have about meditaton and
the pleasure states they invoke is whether or not it subverts the natural
reward system our brains have for achieving something like drugs
I can relate to that, well said.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Curtis, what I'm experiencing these days is that feeling good has taken on a
new meaning. It might not be comfy or cozy, but it's very alive, very in the
moment. As that takes over, something else
The movement needed the vague rumors and innuendos of Mahrishi's magical powers
to sell the idea of his specialness, One of the most persistent myths was that
his needing little sleep was unique thing. I just read an article about the
sleeping habits of high performing executives who run big
I believe that a lot of this sense of fulfillment in our lives is tied to our
age. I have read studies about how satisfaction and happiness in life increases
with age and I have certainly found that to be true. I have also gotten way
better at what to focus on and what to ignore to keep my
Thanks Ann. I found what you wrote and this article equally fascinating and
helpful.
From what you wrote I was struck by how your comments were shaped by your
working relationship with horses. They are not your cuddle toys, you do shit
together! Intricate split second, had-better-be-in-synch
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Both the Turq's claim that he saw the Lenz-Rama-guy levitate many times and
Curti's claim that knowledge is not different in different states of
consciousness loom over these two guys forever.
C: Nabbie with your attention
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Curtis, from your first paragraph, it sounds like you're equating knowledge
with mental abilities. But I don't think that's what Maharishi meant. I think
what he meant by knowledge is conclusions drawn from perceptions.
C: I agree,
I never said waking state is all there is.
Your claims about knowing about my level of success reveals your inability to
distinguish your internal fantasy about someone, from the reality that you are
not in a position to know. Because you don't like me for my lack of buy-in to
your storyyou
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Share,
I agree that there is some conflating here of mental abilities and knowledge.
C: You mean by Maharishi in his examples, right? He started the comparison
which you are labeling conflation.
S: I think it is the typical
Share,
I think you make a great case for taking care of yourself (diet and exercise),
getting enough rest, and if you feel tired in the afternoon, take a nap. I am
on board with all of that.
We are both welcome to our own interpretations of what part meditation plays in
that. If it is
I am fascinated by animal intelligence and am always curious if I can breach
the rapport barrier and connect with their intelligence enough to understand a
little bit of what is going on in there. Although I know this may be verging on
an idiotic question Ann, I will ask it anyway. Can you
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
WGM4U: Curtis-wiki is useful, but not the final word.
C: I only went there for the quote, I already knew what the phrase meant and
used to own the gag statue.
WGM4U: Hear, see and speak no evil is just a catch-all phrase
I think this clip sums up both our views perfectly:
Always Look on the Bright Side of Life - Monty Python's Life of Brian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ
Always Look on the Bright Side of Life - Monty Python...
The government doesn't want us to know that we are a fertilizer farm for the
aliens. As soon as our planet ripens with organic matter and the pollution we
generate they will come and harvest the top mile of our topsoil and take it
home to spread on the gardens of the richest alien assholes on
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Hey Curtis,
I know this is a bit of sensitive topic, but ya know, it does make a
difference when disagreeing with someone, to end as you did, as opposed to
referring to someone as a gullible idiot.
And no, I don't think it
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Hey, thanks Curtis.
Ever since I viewed that video about Anna Breytenbach that Ann posted I've
tried my hand communicating with the doggies next store,and our cat, who is
afraid of me, even after ten years of kindness, and not
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
always a tell when one feels they need to go on and on about something they
are not comfortable with as if they are trying to convince themselves.
C: I'm confused. Is the tell about the people who keep talking about UFOs as
if
Did you just call a stranger on the internet a poopy pants? That is adorable.
Who's my angry little man? You are, goochi goochi goo. Where's that smile.
Come on, where is that smile Mr. Frowny Pants. There it is! I see it now. Smile
for the bad, bad man whose words make you feel this way.
I gotta say that the wild gene or not makes all the difference. I chose two
purebred cats, a Bengal and and Abyssinian who came home with me at 6 weeks.
They lived with me as my constant companions at home for 20 and 19 years. When
you get a cat who is bred into a loving family who socializes
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
CDB, I am appreciative that you took to, invested in and extended upon this
subject thread (hook, line and sinker) with these comments. Context often is
everything.What you write as to clarifying the context of Maharishi
Thanks Michael and Barry. The funniest kicker to the story is that according to
the Puranas, a demon can gain enlightenment by a steady opposition to Krishna.
So the only thing that will happen from this circle jerk is that we gain
Maharishi's purity and Buck gains our impurity.
Not a bad deal
I read an interesting article written for an Indian wandering monk about how
well they really take care of wandering holy men in India. People basically
expect these guys to have no right to demand any decent food so they often get
scraps people would throw away. If they complain they get hit
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Every heard of-Hear no Evil, See no Evil, Speak no Evil?
C: I have seen this phrase under a statue of chimps mimicking each one as a
goof on the cluelessness of the platitude. From Wiki:
In the Western world both the proverb
This is a perfect example of my point. You are trying so hard to rewrite our
personal history to fit your contrived narrative. Is your point so weak that
this is what you have to offer as rebuttal?
I don't need to make up stories about your past to dissagree with your
conclusions about
You know what is the dominate dynamic on FFL?
There is a group who criticizes the organization we were all a part of, the
founder and the beliefs of the followers. (I am a proud member of this group.)
And a group who personally attacks their personal life with made-up assumptions
about their
Share,
Did you ever take Ali Najafee's SET seminars in Fairfield? I know someone who
was there when they were going on and it seemed to strike a nerve doing exactly
what you are talking about. There were massively popular back in the lat 80's.
Since then there have been oodles of people
What specific facilities are you making this claim about? It was silk
wallpaper, not tapestries at the College of Natural Law. Maharishi didn't have
enough aesthetic sense for art .
At CNL the rugs were the highest quality of thick genuine wool, in Seelisberg
the chairs were gold leafed.
Yes a civilization that can make circles in crops by smooching them down in a
pattern is really a wonder to behold isn't it?
BTW do you any other reason to jump from we don't know how these were made to
we know it was aliens from any other source than Creme claiming it?
---In
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Yes dear Curtis, certainly Maharishi should have consulted you, being an
expert in art and all :-)
Anyway, did Maharishi live in the CNL ?
M: It was built for his visits. So his opulent rooms were used very little.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
If you don't mind me reminding you Curtis, the post was made to Sal, not you.
Now, please retire to where ever you came from and continue to torment those
poor drums.
M: I do mind your insinuation that I am not welcome to
I should have known that you have already been down this road Sal. That sounds
like a perfectly reasonable explanation as long as you don't think about it for
more than...
shit! There it goes.
If this is their method of communication perhaps we should trample down a
request for them to either
This discussion about Maharishi's lifestyle came on the heels of Nabbie's
absurd claim that Maharishi had sacrificed a lot by abandoning outdoor camping
for living in the most beautiful tourist destinations in the world. The beauty
of Seelsiberg is breathtaking and we were right over Lake
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
I would just like to ask a small and, no doubt, insignificant question here,
but what towers aren't phallic?
Some more, some less. This one is more!
MAHARISHI TOWER OF INVINCIBILITY | Global Country of World Peace
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
should anyone be relatively new to this group it would be good to understand
that at present it is full of complete fabrications about Maharishi. Stuff that
is just completely manufactured with imaginative abandon, having no
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Statements are being made here which are not merely opinions but demonstrably
false claims.
http://watchdogwire.com/blog/2014/10/30/libel-slander-facts/
http://watchdogwire.com/blog/2014/10/30/libel-slander-facts/
4. No
I get it that you are trying to shut down free speech you don't like but small
problem:
defamation doesn't apply to dead people.
It is the exception. From your own link: To be defamation it must be.
Be about an identifiable living person or company
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
I have that book. What part do you want to bring to people's attention?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
There exists an early book on Maharishi which it seems few people have been
aware of. It contains information that contradicts recent accounts of
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
Anything to avoid turning the lens on your less than spectacular life, eh?
M: No lets. I am looking forward to a week of 7 gigs. If I wanted to take off
the rest of the month I could, but instead I will fulfill between 4-5
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
You equate busy with successful, but I don't. Glad you are looking forward to
being busy.
M: No Jim. I view a life meaningful, creative work that I love as a counter
fact to your bullshit narrative that my life is terrible
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
I don't get it? No, Curtis, I get it, EXACTLY.
M: No you obviously don't. The guys trademark was his gift of gab. He was the
giggling guru to the press. He could charm the pants off of any skeptical
reporter with witty
I would say that both your reactive posting history here and Maharishi on that
tape provide clear counter-evidence to you analogies on parade claims below.
Balanced intellect is a meaningless phrase you are parroting to sound
profound. I think it works better in a dhoti surrounded by flowers.
I totally agree that Maharishi was a believer in his Hindu religious beliefs.
Unfortunately that included a view of dispensable Westerners as cash cows for
his holy purposes. He called us non Indians the mix ups in India because we
could not trace our shakka clan lineage. He used us for the
That is what a balanced intellect produces huh? Impressive Jim.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
World - 1 Curtis - 0
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :
I would say that both your reactive posting history here and
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
This video was done during a long series of interviews shortly before
Maharishi died and shows a mentally very fit man.
M: If this was taken around the same time then it shows that he can still give
his claims on parade
Fit like you Nabbie, repetitively babbling claim after unsubstantiated claim.
Ever hear an old guy tell you about he Second World War? They are really good
at this.Then ask him a question off topic and you will see what their cognitive
state really is. Same with you really. Your mental ability
Yes the Maharishi was a martyr myth, I know it well. The idea that an ambitious
guy like Maharishi who showed no reclusive tendencies before or after the two
years he claimed to have been camping in Uttar Kashi is absurd. He was an
advance man for Guru Dev, that is how Jerry described it to me.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 10/31/2014 2:45 PM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
All this nonsense of taking issue with the word used by organizations who deal
with the arts to refer to their roster reminded me a a
I am certainly open to criticism for responding. I have mostly focused on
things that interested me to discuss. He prolongs the points by giving writing
prompts. This has been the longest interaction I have had with him and I was
kind of curious about what was behind the flaming. I got my
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
All this nonsense of taking issue with the word used by organizations who deal
with the arts to refer to their roster reminded me a a great story Maharishi
used to tell about how he got his title/name Maharishi.
Remind us of the
Thanks Richard. I always figured we had a similar love of the blues. That is
very cool about the Robert Johnson hotel where he recorded. His first recording
at the Gunter Hotel at 205 East Houston Street? His second session was in
Dallas. I would like to visit there someday as a blues
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Selling your musical taste as more than that isn't gunna get any traction
from my fans here.
So, you have fans here now ? We know this place is populated by some pretty
weird souls but who would have guessed they are your
It is the art of living right? That is what is important. Most of my life is
also spent doing creative things alone, I relate to that too. Any performance
is the tip of the iceberg of our creative lives.
Yes, I understand the issues you have with the word art over the last 2,245
posts where
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