[FairfieldLife] Attributes of Various Enlightenments

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I simply disagree with you, and see much of what you have written above as invalid from my point of view. In the above, I made five basic points. 1) I rarely accept unprovable assertions as a priori true. 2)

[FairfieldLife] Illusionary Awakening

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: 'the state where all illusions have been dissolved'? Actually I probably call it who gives a sh*t. I don't YOU WV

[FairfieldLife] Re: Attributes of Various Enlightenments

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: snip You appear to be saying: I want to let all of you know that I am a living example that enlightenment can be achieved. Its

[FairfieldLife] Re: Attributes of Various Enlightenments

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ As I said yesterday: The Self in each of us recognizes the Self in another. We are conscious of this to one degree or another

[FairfieldLife] Re: Attributes of Various Enlightenments

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: snip I'm OK, You're OK was actually a 2x2 matrix, giving rise to four states. I'm OK, You're OK I'm OK, You're Not OK I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Urdhva-retas?

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: What kind of negative or annoying side-effects, if any,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An interesting remark by David Orme-Johnson: Over the 40 years that I've been interested in self-development, *I've tried most of the meditation and relaxation techniques that are out there* (emphasis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Urdhva-retas?

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ I seem to recall one of Krishna's criteria for a true yogii/yoginii is that s/he is jitendri-yaH/-yaa (jita + indriya-). I guess

[FairfieldLife] Re: Urdhva-retas?

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/25/06 1:07 PM, new_morning_blank_slate at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to recall one of Krishna's criteria for a true yogii/yoginii is that s/he is jitendri-yaH/-yaa (jita + indriya-). I guess

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: An interesting remark by David Orme-Johnson: Over

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: Does evaluating TM for a day or week give

[FairfieldLife] Re: Urdhva-retas? Yogi sex, yeah right

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Muktananda had sex with underage daughters of close disciples in secret with a heavy amount of intimidation before and afterwards. Clearly you are not suggesting that he exclusively had sex with the above.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Urdhva-retas? Yogi sex, yeah right

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they were having sex with underage women, they should have been sucking in the subtle energy of a state prison. Sal Of course underage is relative, in a legal sense. per web search, age of consent is 12 in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eating animals seems to have really bad karma

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I occasionally eat meat myself, so I am not innocent by any means. But in light of what we know about: 1) bird flu -- that it comes from poultry livestock which are raised for eating; 2) AIDS: from this

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [...] 4) Strong physiological corrleates, such as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/25/06 10:10:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree; we are a culture that is quite addicted to violence and dysfunctional behavior... It's not just the government, but the

[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
In a message dated 5/25/06 10:10:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at what passes for entertainment- it's getting more and more over the top.. I worry about the kids growing up in this pollution. Their attitudes toward sex; their attitude toward

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk

[FairfieldLife] I Was Not Naked Parsing? Redux I did not break any US drug laws?

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
DOJ said and I was not naked. [when I made made the pass. aka rudely and inappropriately hit on the woman (whom he employed? -- was he running the course?] We all have become jaded and wise to parsed statements. If not in college, if not in crafting TMO press releases, if not in writing

[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 9:36:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I still do. Have in my last three homes. What?! Texas is not such a paradise? neighbors actually knew each other and helped

[FairfieldLife] 60's TV Stereotyping

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: In a message dated 5/25/06 10:10:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, babajii_99@ writes: Look at what passes

[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 11:17:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ooooh, do I detect regional bigotry here? Not at all. I have noted with pleasure and anticipation of your comments how

[FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: In a message dated 5/25/06 10:10:19

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: While I get your point, I would argue that in this case, excuse and explanation overlap a bit. Sure, an explanation can be used

[FairfieldLife] Re: I Was Not Naked Parsing? Redux I did not break any US drug laws?

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really well expressed. Really hit the mark. Thanks. And btw, I really like Bill Clinton. (And I like DOJ as a person and teacher). But I have learned not to right away trust anything that comes out of Bill's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: [...] Nor the grapevine. I had heard stories about DOJ hitting on woman before. Maybe false rumor -- who knows -- but where there is smoke

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate 40 years ago was 1966. MIU started in 1972. That's 8 years of experimenting, eh? Well, tm has done wonders for your math skills. (1972-1966= 6). I have done the same math as you (though more accurately :) ).Maybe you

[FairfieldLife] Seva Betting to Reveal the Truth

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate $10 says its not a very comprehensive or impressive spiritual resume. What does your $10 say? And $10 says DOJ was not fully clothed with all body parts apprpriately placed, and thus And I was not naked was a parsed evasion

[FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 11:53:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was thinking of the portrayal of Native Americans, and to some extent Mexicans, when thinking of overt racism. Ah yes ,

[FairfieldLife] Conservative Clinton, Liberal Nixon

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like Clinton alot too. ... I like him because he presided over the most conservative agenda of any president in the 20th century, including Ronald Reagan. So you should love his intellectual and policy legacy,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 1:37:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've often found the opposite from that era. Yes, minorities would play maids but they were far from dumb. Often they would be the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seva Betting to Reveal the Truth

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate $10 says its not a very comprehensive or impressive spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seva Betting to Reveal the Truth

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The little old ladies in my village don't gossip as much as you do. And now you have nothing better to do than rag on nice little old french ladies!? Mon Dieu. Why, are they gossiping about your latest fuck-up in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conservative Clinton, Liberal Nixon

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: about the non-existent global warming due to fossil-fuels (of which there is ZERO evidence). Apparently zero evidence that you have seen digested, or understood. Even Michael Crichton would not make a statement

[FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 1:37:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seva Betting to Reveal the Truth

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate $10 says its not a very comprehensive or impressive spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 1:37:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've often found the opposite from that era. Yes, minorities would play maids but they were far from dumb. Often they would be the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seva Betting to Reveal the Truth

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate $10 says its not a very comprehensive or impressive spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: new_morning_blank_slate VERSUS sparaig

2006-05-26 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shirleybrahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, this is extraordinary, there is someone who posts even more than sparaig does! come on sparaig, are you going to let this person get way ahead of you?! stop taking your meds for a week, i'll bet that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yah, those Danes sure like TM

2006-05-27 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
http://www.google.com/trends?q=maharishi%2C+Dali+Lamactab=2geo=alldate=all http://www.google.com/trends?q=sex%2C+yogactab=2geo=alldate=all http://www.google.com/trends?q=bliss%2C+moneyctab=2geo=alldate=all http://www.google.com/trends?q=Taylor+Dent%2C+Katharine+McPheectab=2geo=alldate=all

[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance

2006-05-27 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and who we call the Japanese are not themselves the true natives to the Islands we know as Japan. The Ainu -- an alleged Caucasian people -- are the previous inhabitants of Japan. And there are only several

[FairfieldLife] End of Slavery Soon after Revolution if Brits had Won RW

2006-05-27 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas Jefferson blamed slavery on the British. Indeed, he felt that the British imposed it upon the colonies. If he did, its bit odd. Britian introduced slavery to many ofits colonies in the 1600's -- maybe that is

[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance

2006-05-27 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes and At the time of the Constitutional Convention Georgia didn't want slavery in the constitution and threatened not to vote for it while Massachusetts insisted that slavery be constitutional. That doesn't sound right.

[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance

2006-05-27 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, Caucasians= Sattva dominates, rajas secondary Semitic = Rajas dominates, sattva secondary Oriental = Rajas dominates, tamas secondary Black = Tamas dominates, rajas secondary This is evil and wrong.

[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance

2006-05-28 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So, Caucasians= Sattva dominates, rajas

[FairfieldLife] Dear Friend

2006-05-28 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/28/06 1:20 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: Yes. I wonder what the implications are -- that is, Bob's

[FairfieldLife] Natural Clustering vs Repression

2006-05-28 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/28/06 1:23 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Good point. MMY is a firm supporter of the caste system which

[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance

2006-05-28 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 5/28/06 1:23 AM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance

2006-05-28 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Of course, if India had followed his advice, they'd still be living under the thumb of the Scorpionlanders. Some laws are beyond acceptance.

[FairfieldLife] Alleged Overlapping Bell Curves of Racial Differences

2006-05-28 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But let's say this classification is true with some modification. The modification would be that any specific individual of any race could have any of the guna characteristics delineated by Bob. I've met some very

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brangelina

2006-05-28 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
I like AngelRad-- morphing into Rad Angel Of course there is Joulitt. or Pilie. Perhaps nicenames for thier kids. Hi, I'm Joulitt Rad Angel --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an amalgam that the media has given to the Brad Pitt/Angelina

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dear Friend

2006-05-28 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Hitler started out being quite loved in Germany, telling people all they wanted to here; appealing to their ego's and dreams of conquering the world; I think the inital appeal was to role back the highly

[FairfieldLife] Fear in the Streets

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But also because it's a matter of opinion, one on which you and I disagree, but on which a lot of other people do agree. One of the things that, *without exception*, every American who has visited me here in France

[FairfieldLife] Re: Skeptic Kurtz on God.

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believed that ethics and morals were like natural laws that came from God to mankind through the scriptures in each culture. When people refer to living the Dharma -- while mutiple meanings are possible -- it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Critique of The Transcendental Temptation

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hyperbolicgeometry hyperbolicgeometry@ wrote: Religion Paranormal The Transcendental Temptation: A Critique of Religion and the Paranormal by Paul Kurtz. Published by

[FairfieldLife] Re: Critique of The Transcendental Temptation

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hyperbolicgeometry hyperbolicgeometry@ wrote: --- Religion Paranormal The Transcendental

[FairfieldLife] Re: 100K mark passed

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10 We quietly passed the 100,000 mark, and matrixmonitor, who was on a roll, was the lucky winner. About as significant a personal achievement as Barry

[FairfieldLife] Re: Critique of The Transcendental Temptation

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson

[FairfieldLife] Re: Critique of The Transcendental Temptation

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hyperbolicgeometry

[FairfieldLife] Re: Critique of The Transcendental Temptation

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +++ Once upon a time, the world was flat. With the passing of time and more expierience gained, it has become round. This author lacks expierience with which the paranormal becomes

[FairfieldLife] Re: 100K mark passed

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10 We quietly passed the 100,000 mark, and matrixmonitor, who was on a roll,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Critique of The Transcendental Temptation

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001

[FairfieldLife] Re: Critique of The Transcendental Temptation

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103

[FairfieldLife] Re: Critique of The Transcendental Temptation

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: [...] I believe that all the existing connections are used constantly

[FairfieldLife] Re: 100K mark passed

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer

[FairfieldLife] Fear and Loathing in LA

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An example, directly related to theater attendance. The last time I was in L.A., I wanted to see a movie so I went to Westwood, the area near UCLA just filled (in my memory) with bustling crowds, nice restaurants,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Critique of The Transcendental Temptation

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate Well, maybe I am still missing his point. But he appears to be saying that some things that seem magical, later become scientific truths. I don't think

[FairfieldLife] Re: Critique of The Transcendental Temptation

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [...] The Arthur C. Clarke quote is germane -- Any sufficiently advanced

[FairfieldLife] Re: Critique of The Transcendental Temptation

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [...] The Arthur C. Clarke quote is germane -- Any sufficiently advanced

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear and Loathing in LA

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: An example, directly related to theater attendance. The last time I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear and Loathing in LA

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: An example, directly related to theater attendance. The last time I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear and Loathing in LA

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: An example, directly related to theater attendance. The last time I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Need some TANG?

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Transcendental argument for the non-existence of God The Transcendental Argument for the Non-existence of God (also called TANG) was first explicitly formulated by Michael Martin in a 1996 article in New Zealand

[FairfieldLife] Re: ...or some TAG?

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Transcendental argument for the existence of God The Transcendental Argument for the existence of God (TAG) is an argument for the existence of God which attempts to show that logic, science, ethics (and generally every

[FairfieldLife] Re: Critique of The Transcendental Temptation

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Critique of The Transcendental Temptation

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While your conclusiuon does not follow from your illustration,I agree with the conclusion. Of course science is not particularly (curently at least) relevant to lots of things: beauty, love etc. It can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Critique of The Transcendental Temptation

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: snip My favorite all time joke, illustrative of the limits of science is ... 63!!! For those who don'tremember 63, its the one

[FairfieldLife] Re: Critique of The Transcendental Temptation

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: FWIW, this was originally one of the jokes told by the medieval Muslim sage Nasrudin, in which he frequently featured himself

[FairfieldLife] Re: Critique of The Transcendental Temptation

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: All the Mulla did was to try out his newly acquired skill. He was amazed by the speed at which the suitor rushed from the house

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every Memorial Day we hear that myth about those who have fallen fighting for our freedom. Believe me nobody ever died fighting for our freedom. Horse shit. You poor dryless cynic. Instead they fought to keep the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Every Memorial Day we hear that myth about those who have fallen fighting for our freedom. Believe me nobody ever died fighting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message

2006-05-29 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
: new_morning_blank_slate wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Every Memorial Day we hear that myth about those who have fallen fighting for our freedom. Believe me

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message

2006-05-30 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
So Turq, When did you file your CO (conscientious objector) papers? Tell us about your plans to go to jail rather than perpetuate war and to kill. Or are your words as hollow as your friends? And when did resisting wars ever mean one can't and should not honor those that did offer their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message

2006-05-31 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that Judy won't understand this, because she's too far gone, but the above comment is *exactly* why she and new_morning_blank_slate are consigned to my Pissant Bin. It's not that they have nothing to say

[FairfieldLife] Re: Human ancestors may have mated with chimps

2006-05-31 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great post! I love this stuff. I think there is also evidence of Homo Sapien mating with Neanderthal back in the day. Early man was such a stud! I hear that after the second glass of Chardonnay, chimp chicks

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'

2006-05-31 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/31/06 8:19:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, babajii_99@ writes: Enlightened leadership is the only way out. But if the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message

2006-05-31 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But (a) that was not what you said to start with; and (b) running away to France does not absolve you of that responsibility. Where does he pay his taxes? Of what country is he a citizen? US.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'

2006-05-31 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'

2006-05-31 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: Before assuming a poster is responding to your comments, perhaps pause before posting your new response, and consider

[FairfieldLife] Enlightened Leaders

2006-05-31 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
While not directly responding to any particular post or poster, much of the discussion appears to be premised on the assumption that enlightenment in-itself is a strongly positive characteristic desirable in a leader. And perhaps some feel that enlightenement in-itself would be sufficient to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Swami Sivananda defines CC

2006-06-02 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for posting this. Although your title is somewhat disingenuous, given the statement within the text that states: I am not seeing why the Saint Sivananda is disingenuous. Perhaps there is someconfusion in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Swami Sivananda defines CC

2006-06-02 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Thanks for posting this. Although your title is somewhat

[FairfieldLife] Sri Swami Sivananda Discusses Attributes of JivanMukta

2006-06-02 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Hi, I am unsure why you are asking such, for the criterion for recognizing such a Jivanmukta is clearly spelled out by the saint dude: Only

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Swami Sivananda defines CC

2006-06-02 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: A while back, in a similar discussion someone (possibly new_morning) asked someone (possibly you) to define the attributes of enlightenment.

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