[FairfieldLife] What is art? (was Re: What is Spirituality?)

2006-03-10 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Illusion of individuality; labels; true bhakti; the story of Guru Dev and hi

2006-03-10 Thread t3rinity
I just wanted to tell you, Irmeli, that I find this post of yours very good. I don't agree with everything, but everything is written in a good spirit. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I liked this post a lot. It is an honest account of Goodman's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.

2006-03-10 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did nobody read this: ..Underline this thing a thousand times. Real richness is not in the countable wealth -- million, billion, trillion, and whatever -- it's not in terms of wealth. In terms of the source of all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

2006-03-10 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't come back to the mantra. The instant I realize my attention hasn't been on it, I find that my attention is on it again. It's a cycle that repeats automatically, entirely spontaneously, throughout the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhakti -- the double-edged sword

2006-03-09 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * The infidel Salman Rushdie has insulted our Holy Prophet. You not only have our blessing to kill him; if you do you will be rewarded financially in this life and earn eternal life in heaven. Actually, I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhakti -- the double-edged sword

2006-03-09 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: * The infidel Salman Rushdie has insulted our Holy Prophet. You not only have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhakti -- the double-edged sword

2006-03-09 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For t3rinity, a second post on bhakti: The following is a direct quote from a teacher that quite a few people on this forum admire, on the subject of bhakti and the ideal relationship of a disciple to the guru

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhakti -- the double-edged sword

2006-03-09 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no further comments, except to point out that you found a way to ignore all of the situations you didn't like, when the point of the exercise was to comment on what *you* would have done if *your* spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhakti -- the double-edged sword

2006-03-09 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't followed this thread closely but: Do people see the tm mov't and or its techniques as being bhakti? No, definitely not. How odd. What's remotely bhakti about it? Of course one can appreciate or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhakti -- the double-edged sword

2006-03-09 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, *you* define bhakti. Through my life. You've already tried to keep people here from dealing with it critically. As if I could. But I don't have your missionary zest. snip As you define it, which you won't.

[FairfieldLife] What is art? (was Re: What is Spirituality?)

2006-03-09 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: So where

[FairfieldLife] What is art? (was Re: What is Spirituality?)

2006-03-09 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Course Fees and The Real Goals of the Movement

2006-03-08 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Generally I dislike in this post the tone of idealizing one person's work, and the egoistic approach of trying to make his work crucial to human consciousness evolution in this time. You *dislike* it right?

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Course Fees and The Real Goals of the Movement

2006-03-08 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: Generally I dislike in this post the tone of idealizing one

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Course Fees and The Real Goals of the Movement

2006-03-08 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe first learn reading what a person actually has said, and don't just dump on him once he appears. Once more: my post is not about the difference of opinions about Maharishi that Michael and Irmeli have, but about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Should Bhakti be beyond criticism? (was TM Course Fees and The Real Goals )

2006-03-08 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: snip Generally I dislike in this post the tone

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Course Fees and The Real Goals of the Movement

2006-03-08 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: Maybe first learn reading what a person actually has said, and don't just dump

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Course Fees and The Real Goals of the Movement

2006-03-08 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This kind of Bhakti? Is addiction or attachment to Bhakti considered desirable? http://www.polyamoryonline.org/interviews/poly_interview_120905.html So far I have no idea of the tantric views of Michael. I will read the

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Course Fees and The Real Goals of the Movement

2006-03-08 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This kind of Bhakti? Is addiction or attachment to Bhakti considered desirable? http://www.polyamoryonline.org/interviews/poly_interview_120905.html Here is a really good article on Guru Bhakti by a man who knows what he

[FairfieldLife] Guru Bhakti (was: Re: TM Course Fees and The Real Goals of the Movement)

2006-03-08 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This kind of Bhakti? Is addiction or attachment to Bhakti considered desirable? http://www.polyamoryonline.org/interviews/poly_interview_120905.html Here is a really good article on Guru Bhakti by a man who knows what he

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Course Fees and The Real Goals of the Movement

2006-03-08 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: snip Now suddenly everybody here is full of respect for bhakti, why otherwise this topic *never* comes up in any of your or Irmelis posts. Love

[FairfieldLife] Re: Should Bhakti be beyond criticism? (was TM Course Fees and The Real Goals )

2006-03-08 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irmeli: I have stated earlier that I don't consider Goodman to be a fanatic. Here you use logical arguments in a distorted way and make inapt comparisons and generally come across as hostile in spite of your Bhakti

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Course Fees and The Real Goals of the Movement

2006-03-08 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both you and Michael do. I don't think that either of you are nearly as comfortable or secure in your beliefs as you claim to be. If you were, you wouldn't spend so much of your time defending against imagined attacks

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Sutras

2006-03-04 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sutras are not, or at least are more than a descriptions of alternative states. Certainly some sutras are about experiences (views based on experiences -- not dry conceptualizations). And in some cases

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Sutras

2006-03-04 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When we use other concepts to do so, they are true in themselves,.. This should read: When we use other concepts to do so, they are NOT true in themselves, but they destroy the other, and are like fingers pointing

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness

2006-03-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 4:30 PM, sparaig wrote: As far as I can tell, Vaj is misinterpretting/over-interpretting some text taht talks about how even a nail driven into one's hand won't takethem out of samadhi. But that's the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness

2006-03-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To bring up Suzanne Segal again, that's an admonition she hammered toward the end of her book -- seeing things as they really are. But she never elaborated on it. Sometimes I think the work of Byron Katie is

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness

2006-03-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What really impressed me about the teachings is an experience of the veda I had once, very powerful and definately real as I couldn't have imagined it if I'd tried. The thing is, the only veda I knew of at the time

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness

2006-03-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just look at the cross- cultural range of spiritual experiences -- do Native Americans cognize Shiva and Brahma when they have visions? Do people brought up Catholic cognize Krishna when they have visions? No, of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness

2006-03-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: Another man I met had an appearance of Shirdi Sai Baba. Again he had never seen a picture of him, had nothing to do with Hinduism, and only

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness

2006-03-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Just look at the cross- cultural range of spiritual experiences -- do Native

[FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle

2006-03-03 Thread t3rinity
Check out 'Enlightenment Blues' http://tinyurl.com/4ttdf So much about responsibility! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Quote to Wake Up To Many mistakenly feel relieved from the burden of responsibility for their own behaviour because of erroneous

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness

2006-03-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- tom traynor wrote: What ever they attempt is easy and simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant. So I may need to

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Raja course

2006-03-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not Rajinis? :) It would be Ranis of course. Sal Sunshine wrote: Sure--Rajettes. Sal On Mar 3, 2006, at 12:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did they ever come up with a name, I mean something nice, for

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness..

2006-03-01 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/1/06 9:06 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I've never encountered it in TM, to the contrary. What I've observed has been a tendency to be deferential to those who claimed or were rumored

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
Thanks Barry for that elaborate response to just a nasty side remark of mine. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: IMO

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip uninteresting stuff to So if you've got another possibility other than the two

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: If not, then I suggest that you continue to believe what you've chosen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: snip Even a fundamental Christian may have had an Awakening experience

[FairfieldLife] Re: Great .sig file :-)

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * If you meet the Buddha on the Internet, killfile him. Funny, yeah. But seriously I think, you can only kill the Buddha you were attached to at first. It means

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sues unrecertified governor

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: Ha, ha, ha, yes, I prefer the 'old coke', God help us all! Thank God I got TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sues unrecertified governor

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: snip He himself as a 'Guru' is still there. He is the cosmic Guru, not a persona (Dakshinamurty), always available and guiding those serious about

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And who's to say this isn't their 7th lifetime, or whatever? That's it. That was also Papaji's point stating too many are hanging around already too long. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many people were never taught how to approach a teacher or test a teacher. These IME are valuable things to know, no doubt. No doubt, there are criteria, laid out by scriptures (ha ha) about that, but it again depends on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll let you two talk. You seem convinced that you know what everyone is really saying, so it's kinda irrelevant for them to actually say anything. :-) Thanks for making it really clear now anyway.;-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, I actually appreciate much of what you have to say. And, *unlike you*, I *respect* your spiritual path. You do *not* respect mine. That's not true. If you go back and look at the recent threads in which we

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the comedy of it all is that seekers on a legitimate pathway to enlightenment.. Now, Barry, when you say LEGITIMATE pathway, you surely do not mean those with scriptural authorization, or authorized by tradition? I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Michael, I actually appreciate much of what you have to say. And, *unlike you

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sues unrecertified governor

2006-02-27 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha, ha, ha, yes, I prefer the 'old coke', God help us all! Thank God I got TM when I did!! BillyG. But the new Coke was better. That's what independent tests had shown. People just wanted to buy the old image. Same

[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...

2006-02-27 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also NOT having photographic memory myself, I can see why writing is important. I always thought that photographic memory was useful only with written texts. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...

2006-02-27 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO *none* of them was either written by God or inspired by God. What a revolutionary claim made by a man not believing in God anyway. How could he have inspired a book if he doesn't exist? (in your book)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...

2006-02-27 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to remember that in Hebrews 16:4 the punishment for being uptight about *anything* related to sex was to reincarnate in a place and time where people argue endlessly about such things on something the prophets

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma's opinion regarding the infamous cartoons of Prophet Mohammed @ Amritap

2006-02-25 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The insult of the cartoons is to all muslims. Oh, really? You speak for all Muslims, do you? The insult is directed to all muslims as it has Mohammed as its object. If somebody feels insulted is another thing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma's opinion regarding the infamous cartoons of Prophet Mohammed @ Amritap

2006-02-24 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: http://www.amritapuri.org/teachings/message/cartoon.php More seriously, although her comments are sweet and compassionate, isn't the reaction

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma's opinion regarding the infamous cartoons of Prophet Mohammed @ Amritap

2006-02-24 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: http://www.amritapuri.org/teachings/message/cartoon.php My opinion: Amma should have kept her mouth shut. Her words border on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma's opinion regarding the infamous cartoons of Prophet Mohammed @ Amritap

2006-02-24 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But timing and tact require leaders to tread delicately as to what is appropriate to say at what time. This is what she did. She said that it's not good to hurt religious feelings. Trying to understand why a murderer

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-21 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup. It's also *still identification*. In the Buddhist paradigm, the goal is to identify with *no* point of view or state of attention, but to transcend them all and identify with *nothing*. Not identifying with

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-21 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Yup. It's also *still identification*. In the Buddhist paradigm, the goal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Raaja-yoga

2006-02-21 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe PaataƱjala-aSTaanga-yoga is also called raaja-yoga. Why is that like that, anyone? Maybe because Vivekananda called his commentary on the YS Rajayoga? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-21 Thread t3rinity
@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You seem to be taking this very personally, while I simply try to elucitate the principles. For me this is an answer to the thoughts and ideas you bring up, so I see it in an impersonal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Action Happens

2006-02-21 Thread t3rinity
I can't speak for Trinity, Yes you can. Thank you, you put it much better than I ever did. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: why -- if you truly believe that the universe runs

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-19 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you're welcome to it if it floats your boat. I guess there is simply no choice. See? That's where we differ. I have a choice. :-) No, the situation is the same for us both, just you

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-19 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because you didn't have the 'same' You surely had some degree of witnessing, but you didn't have the experience that you are not in charge. Or did you have the experience that you are not in charge, and then

[FairfieldLife] Re: True Children Of the TMO

2006-02-19 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctor_gabby_savy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its occurred to me that Barry, Jim and others are true children of the TMO, per their style of response. When someone brings up points about the TMO regarding oddness, mundane contradictions, distortion of facts,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-19 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever floats your boat. :-) As long as we're dealing with speculation, In this case we are dealing with experiences. I think you're pretty heavily invested in not being responsible for your own decisions and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-19 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has it not occurred to you that you're trying to lecture someone who in your view does not *have* free will and convince him to use that non-existent free will to change his behavior and his beliefs? That you

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-19 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: It isn't about one set of decisions/actions that you would make if you were in charge versus a different set that would be made if the universe were

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-19 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: IOW if you look at it from the ego POV, there are lots of mistakes and limitations, if you look from the POV of the Self there aren't, everything

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-19 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Great 2 cents. Here's mine. We're talking about identification, right, If still identifed you are. in different states of attention.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation techniques

2006-02-19 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sri Sri teaches the same technique with one of the most important advanced techniques (of the TM advanced techniques) included for very reasonable, and IMO it's a much healthier and more grassroot org. The TM-like

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-19 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or this. Where do you guys get the energy for these almost endless mind-numbing back and forths? Must be some new technique, I guess. Why bother? I have seen much worse here. Yahoo!

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-18 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: snip Now just

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-18 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You're wrong about this. I actually don't believe that realization can be caused

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-18 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Now, if this tactics is terribly productive, I don't know, I just know

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-18 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Okay

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-18 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Ah, the familiar sound of the Judy Mantra: If anyone heard anything different

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-18 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't say what you think I did above. I was trying to point out the assumption you seem to be making. You feel, based on your own experience, that you are not running the show. YES Therefore, you assume that

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-18 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on that clarity, we disagree completely. I believe that every sentient being, realized or not, enlightened or not, witnessing or not, has complete and total free will. They get to make their own decisions, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-18 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I didn't say what you think I did above. I was trying to point out

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-18 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Based on that clarity, we disagree completely. I believe that every sentient

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-18 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: But you're welcome to it if it floats your boat. I guess there is simply

[FairfieldLife] Re: ANANDAGIRIJI CONFERENCE CALL

2006-02-18 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/16/06 11:01 AM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I give much to it, but technically speaking they attribute the wiping out of the Himalaya to an earthquake which would simultaneausly cause

[FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com

2006-02-18 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:29:42 -0800 Dear TM teachers and Sidhas, I recently heard that many people are not learning TM because they go on the Internet and read a lot of negativity. I am appalled at the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: I think from that perspective, you would feel that everything that happened could not have happened otherwise, that all your 'mistakes' in thinking

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Now, if this tactics is terribly productive, I don't know, I just know that this particular body/mind organism called Maharishi was drawn to it, that is that the supreme Brahman wanted him to do so...

[FairfieldLife] Re: ANANDAGIRIJI CONFERENCE CALL

2006-02-16 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.geocities.com/rahul_kumar/kalki/tsunami.html Anyone who thinks the Himalayas could be wiped out by a tsunami is living in la la land. Perhaps a really big tsunami?? Yeah, like the moon

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-16 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Second was that however hard I tried to feel bad about the 24/7 realization not being as present as it had been before, after a while I figured out

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush receives Sri Sri in White House

2006-02-13 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Old news: http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/may/17aziz.htm No wonder. Doesn't the movement think he is CIA? He's just meeting his boss ;-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-06 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Conceivably someone could become enlightened by eating MAK. That's really,really rubbish. That's what Mother Meera told me one day: You don't get enlightened by eating those pills.I answered that they are not really claiming

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is exactly what I mean. The most important is what vibrations you fill your homes with - not the buildings. The buildings is only frames. While I won't defend vastu, your attitude is wrong as well.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the orientation of your house or building is the cause of lack of attunement with natural law / lack of enlightenment, enlightenment will never happen. Absolutely! It just means more dependence,more conditioning.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit (?) term sought

2005-08-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 3, 2005, at 11:19 AM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friend of mine

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit (?) term sought

2005-08-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 3, 2005, at 11:19 AM, cardemaister wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja of the Congo speaks

2005-08-01 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raja Paul Potter, the Raja of New York, whose other areas of responsibility around the world include Austria, The Netherlands Antilles, Slovakia, Ukraine, Uruguay, Gambia, and the Republic of Congo was one of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: From: Vajranatha [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-07-13 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BZZ! AMT Wars Fine #6. $32 At this rate, in 7 days we will be up to over one $trillion cum. Can we all be Rajas then? I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conditioning./Truth

2005-07-12 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fascinated enough with this subject to make it its own thread, to see if others here are equally fascinated. Yes. I basically agree with most of what you say. This has been and continues to be my experience. My

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Love the TM song

2005-07-12 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis was also the one who introduced them to Charles Manson. No disrespect meant, he had a good voice, good vibes onstage Charlie? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B05X1J/103-8106026-1223826

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Love the TM song

2005-07-12 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis was also the one who introduced them to Charles Manson. No disrespect meant, he had a good voice, good vibes onstage Charlie?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conditioning./Truth

2005-07-12 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How is encouraging someone to follow their heart being more openminded than the leaders of the TMO? The problem isn't with following one guru, or another, its with participating in the Dome project while practicing

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