[FairfieldLife] Oink...brahmacaryaM pushpa-gandhash ca?

2005-09-13 Thread cardemaister
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[FairfieldLife] Ojas? (aw-jah-s)

2005-09-13 Thread cardemaister
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[FairfieldLife] Serpents, Spirals and Prayers

2005-09-13 Thread sanjulag
This was put together by me. Hope it is enjoyed. === Serpents, Spirals and Prayers - A Journey Through Symbolic Forms in Jewelry === Going through regular monthly cycles, the moon inevitably came to

[FairfieldLife] HILARIOUS!!! (was Re: Nakedness Before God)

2005-09-13 Thread TurquoiseB
Cliff: I have a hard time seeing the difference between Judy wanting to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body in a strip club... Judy: >>> You're as bad as Barry, Cliff. I NEVER said >>> or suggested anything of the kind. ... Cliff: >> Yes, Judy. The whole world,

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Irrelevant to the point.And none of your business. > >

[FairfieldLife] National webcast Sept 29 - does brain get damaged from work?

2005-09-13 Thread Ron F
News Center Does the workplace damage your brain? Mon 12 Sep 2005 09:37 am CST IOWA (myDNA News)   To learn more visit myDNA's Mental Health Center  Read More Everyone is aware of the damage job stress can do to the heart - consider the elevated risks of hypertension, cardiovascular dis

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Yes, I've known a number of women who either had been or were > > then currently strippers. > > > > I'm curious - you seemed to have been sa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread Vaj
On 9/12/05 7:00 PM, "akasha_108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I know this is a fictional account, but I do believe in a large > number of cases it is an accurate picture, watch a couple of Soprano > episodes. The mob runs t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread Vaj
On 9/12/05 7:09 PM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sorry, but the idea that in this day and age > there are still intelligent people who have to be > educated as to how strip clubs exploit women as > sex objects is just too depressing to contemplate. Amen. It's almost not worth

[FairfieldLife] Re: Serpents, Spirals and Prayers

2005-09-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sanjulag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This was put together by me. Hope it is enjoyed. > > === > Serpents, Spirals and Prayers - A Journey Through Symbolic > Forms in Jewelry >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread Vaj
On 9/12/05 7:57 PM, "akasha_108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I have said, I am open to the possiblity that contemporary > dancers in modern US club are exploited, but I have yet to see any > compelling evidence of such. If there is such evidence in abundance, I > have been inept in finding

Re: [FairfieldLife] Question for Experts in Vedic Culture

2005-09-13 Thread Vaj
While I can't say I'm an "expert" in Vedic "culture" my guess would be that since Mahesh was not from a "twice-born" caste he could NOT become a swami and therefore could not wear the saffron robes...but he could and did become a brahmacharin and thus wore white. It's a caste thing. On 9/12/05 8

Re: [FairfieldLife] Question for Experts in Vedic Culture

2005-09-13 Thread Peter
This has always been my understanding too. MMY is not a Brahmin and therefor can not become a sannyasi and wear orange. --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I can't say I'm an "expert" in Vedic "culture" > my guess would be that > since Mahesh was not from a "twice-born" caste he > could NO

[FairfieldLife] Objectification vs. exploitation (was Re: Nakedness Before God)

2005-09-13 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I know a guy who worked for a while at a Wal-Mart > > distribution center in Raymond, New Hampshire. > ... > > My friend was reviewe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread Vaj
On 9/12/05 11:03 PM, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> >> --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> It's interesting. the dark side of these people who >>> try to pass themselves >>> off as the latest guru. T

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread Peter
--- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [...] > > > Exactly. Those who are reacting to strip clubs > as > > > negative are uncomforta

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread Peter
--- off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/12/05 11:03 PM, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> It's interesting. the dark side of thes

[FairfieldLife] Objectification vs. exploitation (was Re: Nakedness Before God)

2005-09-13 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Moral of the story, Patrick? > > Your friend never HAD to work at Wal-Mart... > > YOU don't HAVE to shop there... > > And strippers do NOT have to take their clothes off. Didn't I arrive at those conclusions? Obvio

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nakedness Before God (was more Chopra)

2005-09-13 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > the *system* is exploitative of > the fact that women are generally not considered "worth > as much" as men, in the same job. Therefore, many women > go outside the system to make equal amounts of money. I don't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread Vaj
On 9/13/05 7:33 AM, "TurquoiseB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Vaj, I like you, but I have to wonder whether you have > actually ever *been* to a strip club. Yes! > > Yes, it's sad that our society is so sexually biased > that one of the only options women who don't want to > work for low

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nakedness Before God (was more Chopra)

2005-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vashtirama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > akasha, you'd be great in an upper-level feminist st

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread Vaj
Holsopple, Kelly.  1999. "Stripclubs According to Strippers." Making the Harm Visible: Global Sexual Exploitation of Women and Girls, eds. Donna Hughes and Claire Roche, Kingston RI: Coalition Against Trafficking In Women. The Glamorous Life of the Stripper Excerpted from a 1999 study by Kelly

[FairfieldLife] HILARIOUS!!! (was Re: Nakedness Before God)

2005-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cliff: > I have a hard time seeing the difference between Judy wanting > to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body in a > strip club... > > Judy: > >>> You're as bad as Barry, Cliff. I NE

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/12/05 7:00 PM, "akasha_108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK. Now I get you. Its a beautiful argument. US dancers, in modern > > clubs, are exploited because less than half of congress are not > > female. Ok I am indeed

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/13/05 7:33 AM, "TurquoiseB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The people being controlled and dominated and subjugated > > are the *men* around the stage. And *every* woman who > > works at one of these clubs knows it. Some

[FairfieldLife] HILARIOUS!!! (was Re: Nakedness Before God)

2005-09-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Uh, Judy...Cliff's not me. I'm not him. I think you > > owe him an apology. > > > > But thank you for proving my point about your

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, it does not appear you are following me. Male dominance and > > control are key elements in the worldwide exploitation of women. Absolutely -- but we're not talking about the sex slave trade or sheiks and hare

[FairfieldLife] HILARIOUS!!! (was Re: Nakedness Before God)

2005-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Uh, Judy...Cliff's not me. I'm not him. I thin

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And to go back to an earlier topic, why was the Cosmo > > nude centerfold of Burt Reynolds such a sensation when > > it was firs

[FairfieldLife] HILARIOUS!!! (was Re: Nakedness Before God)

2005-09-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One of these days you're going to swing your dick > one too many times, and it's going to come off. At least for once you are being honest about what really motivates you in these tirades. :-) Buh-bye... --

[FairfieldLife] HILARIOUS!!! (was Re: Nakedness Before God)

2005-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > One of these days you're going to swing your dick > > one too many times, and it's going to come off. > > At least for once you are

[FairfieldLife] Re: National webcast Sept 29 - does brain get damaged from work?

2005-09-13 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > News Center > > > Does the workplace damage your brain? > Mon 12 Sep 2005 09:37 am CST > IOWA (myDNA News) > > > To learn more visit myDNA's Mental Health Center Read More > > > > Everyone is aware of the damage

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ADM X2 Dual Core Processor 4400 2MB L2 Cache

2005-09-13 Thread Rick Archer
on 9/12/05 11:52 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Do you have heat problems with all that speed? I have a fast PC > (forget the >> speed and it's turned off at the moment) with hyperthreading and > when it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Did you know...

2005-09-13 Thread Rick Archer
on 9/13/05 12:16 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ...it was so cold in southern Saskatchewan in January 1938 that cattle > had to walk while they peed, so that the icicles they made didn't > freeze them to the ground? Sounds like the cold in Jack London's "To Build a Fire" - great sho

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ADM X2 Dual Core Processor 4400 2MB L2 Cache

2005-09-13 Thread Rick Archer
on 9/13/05 12:02 AM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> How long does it take you to run a [EMAIL PROTECTED] data unit? > > I just installed it 3 hours ago!! :) > > Actually, I have not done the seti thing. I s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ADM X2 Dual Core Processor 4400 2MB L2 Cache

2005-09-13 Thread Rick Archer
on 9/13/05 1:16 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Do you have heat problems with all that speed? I have a fast PC > (forget the >> speed and it's turned off at the moment) with hyperthreading and when > it >> h

Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick, please ban Off World for his lewdness

2005-09-13 Thread Rick Archer
on 9/13/05 1:22 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Rick, please ban OffWorld for his grossness and lewdness. > > ...from OffWorldBeings. Tell him to wash his mouth out with soap next time he's stripping in front of the bathroom mirror. Yahoo! Groups

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread Peter
This study supports the anecdotal experience of several exotic dancer clients I've had. They all hated the work, had very negative feelings toward men. They only did it for the money and because it was quick and offbook. But is it exploitive? I see exploitation as a matter of degree. Yes, it is a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick, please ban Off World for his lewdness

2005-09-13 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/13/05 1:22 AM, off_world_beings at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Rick, please ban OffWorld for his grossness and > lewdness. > > > > ...from OffWorldBeings. > > Tell him to wash his mouth out with soap next time > he's stripping in front >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread Peter
Yes, Vaj and I used to hit the Pop-a-Top in Ottumwa. --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/13/05 7:33 AM, "TurquoiseB" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Vaj, I like you, but I have to wonder whether you > have > > actually ever *been* to a strip club. > > Yes! > > > > > Yes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick, please ban Off World for his lewdness

2005-09-13 Thread Rick Archer
on 9/13/05 9:54 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> on 9/13/05 1:22 AM, off_world_beings at >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Rick, please ban OffWorld for his grossness and >> lewdness. >>> >>> ...from OffWorldBeings. >> >> Tell him to wash

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick, please ban Off World for his lewdness

2005-09-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/13/05 9:54 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> on 9/13/05 1:22 AM, off_world_beings at > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >>> Rick, please ban OffWorl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread Vaj
On 9/13/05 10:57 AM, "Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, Vaj and I used to hit the Pop-a-Top in Ottumwa. That is, until I perfected the X-ray vision siddhi ;-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups.

[FairfieldLife] Just FYI, Rick

2005-09-13 Thread TurquoiseB
When I click the Photos link I get an error. This has happened on other Yahoo forums I've been part of when the number of photos exceeded the maximum storage capacity alotted to the group. The other groups often remedied this by deleting the large versions of older photos. Then again, it co

[FairfieldLife] Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FYI, the women I talked to at the strip club in Detroit > *were* my friends. ... I was interested in *them*. ... I was sorta like their pet, their artist- > in-residence, like Toulouse-Lautrec was in Paris or > Hoku

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: strippers

2005-09-13 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Shall I add "strippers" to the list of recent topics in the FFL >>description? That'll attract some interesting new members. >> >> > >How 'bout this confessional: > >"I was a stripper for t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > FYI, the women I talked to at the strip club in Detroit > > *were* my friends. ... I was interested in *them*. > ... > > I was sorta l

Re: [FairfieldLife] Just FYI, Rick

2005-09-13 Thread Rick Archer
We were over quota and I just deleted an image to bring us under again. I wish they'd give us more than 30 Mb in this age of free gig email accounts. on 9/13/05 11:12 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When I click the Photos link I get an error. This > has happened on other Yahoo for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just FYI, Rick

2005-09-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We were over quota and I just deleted an image to bring us > under again. I wish they'd give us more than 30 Mb in this > age of free gig email accounts. What I was talking about earlier was the "small size/full size

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread Vaj
On 9/13/05 12:29 PM, "TurquoiseB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or, as was actually done here, from TV and movies. > That's the closest that a lot of people have ever > gotten to one of these clubs. Just because I mentioned _The Sopranos_, a very realistic portrayal, as an example, don't take t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > This captures a lot of what real world modern strip clubs are > > about. Its so funny to hear abstractions about how bad clubs > > are -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am guessing judy's view is imagination based also, but I invite > her to explicitly dewscribe what she thinks a club looks like and > what happens inside. If you think my view of strip clubs depends on what I think

[FairfieldLife] Re: ADM X2 Dual Core Processor 4400 2MB L2 Cache

2005-09-13 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well, it just arrived via Fed Ex. I going to fire t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I think > the real issue is that most Americans look down on > strippers and other sex workers. They're just trying > to hide their own prejudice behind the claim of > "exploitation" and pretending to be outraged ab

[FairfieldLife] A Man of Fairth speaks ou

2005-09-13 Thread johnlasher20002000
Dr. Robin Meyers speaking at Oklahoma University Peace Rally. (He is a minister of Mayflower Congregational Church in Oklahoma City, an Open and Affirming, Peace and Justice Church in northwest Oklahoma City, and professor of Rhetoric at Oklahoma City University.) Tonight, I join ranks of those

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am guessing judy's view is imagination based also, but I invite > > her to explicitly dewscribe what she thinks a club looks like and

[FairfieldLife] Re: ADM X2 Dual Core Processor 4400 2MB L2 Cache

2005-09-13 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aka

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But I think > > the real issue is that most Americans look down on > > strippers and other sex workers. They're just trying > > to hide

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for 'Experts' in Vedic Culture

2005-09-13 Thread Robert Gimbel
In the same way as other's describe; Maharishi is not born of a brahman family; but is Kyastra; warrior caste; And perhaps he stood out, even in the early days; With Guru Dev; that he would be the one to go out; And be the destoyer of ignorance; Which his name: Mahesh also is a derivative of Shiv

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Yes, I've known a number of women who either had been

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/12/05 7:09 PM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm sorry, but the idea that in this day and age > > there are still intelligent people who have to be > > educated as to how strip clubs exploit women

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/12/05 11:03 PM, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> It's interestin

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > The people being controlled and dominated and subjugated > are the *men* around the stage. And *every* woman who > works at one of these clubs knows it. Some actually get > off on the level of control they have over th

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Holsopple, Kelly.  1999. "Stripclubs According to Strippers." Making the > Harm Visible: Global Sexual Exploitation of Women and Girls, eds. Donna > Hughes and Claire Roche, Kingston RI: Coalition Against Trafficking In

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/13/05 7:33 AM, "TurquoiseB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The people being controlled and dominated and subjugated > > > are the *men*

[FairfieldLife] HILARIOUS!!! (was Re: Nakedness Before God)

2005-09-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > One of these days you're going to swing your

[FairfieldLife] Re: ADM X2 Dual Core Processor 4400 2MB L2 Cache

2005-09-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/12/05 11:52 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Do you have heat problems with all that speed? I have a fast PC > > (f

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread Cliff
You prefer looking at women's bones as opposed to their breasts, do you? H Maybe Peter would have somethiing to say about that. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/13/05 10:57 AM, "Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, Va

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> John Lennon said it when he said "Woman is the nigger of the world." > > > > OK. So how does that make a case that US dancers, in modern clubs, are exploited. > > This seems to be something you need to look into yoursel

[FairfieldLife] Re: ADM X2 Dual Core Processor 4400 2MB L2 Cache

2005-09-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/13/05 1:16 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Do you have heat problems with all that speed? I have a fast PC > > (forge

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am guessing judy's view is imagination based also, but I invite > > her to explicitly dewscribe what she thinks a club looks like an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I am guessing judy's view is imagination based al

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread Vaj
On 9/13/05 1:37 PM, "akasha_108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For Vaj, his view appears not-empirically based, or if it is, I am > guessing its 20-30 years old. Which means that it has little to do > with modern upscale club reality. And he appears highly influenced by > media, fictional represent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/13/05 1:37 PM, "akasha_108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For Vaj, his view appears not-empirically based, or if it is, I am > > guessing its 20-30 years old. Which means that it has little to do > > with modern upscale

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/12/05 7:09 PM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm sorry, but the idea that in this day and age > > there are still intelligent people who have to be > > educated as to how strip clubs exploit women

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread Cliff
Oh come on, Judy. Your put-downs are awfully weak today. Didn't sleep well? Where's the true spitting venom you displayed so exhuberantly last night? Your fans will be disappointed... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yah

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread Cliff
Be careful, Akasha. You'll be accused of being a stupid, awful, terrible, did-I-mention-stupid clone of Cliff shortly... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In Fai

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread Vaj
On 9/13/05 2:48 PM, "akasha_108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> John Lennon said it when he said "Woman is the nigger of the world." >>> >>> OK. So how does that make a case that US dancers, in modern clubs, > are exp

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/13/05 1:37 PM, "akasha_108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For Vaj, his view appears not-empirically based, or if it is, I am > > guessing its 20-30 years old. Which means that it has little to do > > with modern upscale

[FairfieldLife] 'In Praise Of President Bush/Taking Responsibility'

2005-09-13 Thread Robert Gimbel
Our "Baby Boomer" generation;   Has been branded, in the past;   For being irresponsible;   And perhaps President Bush;   Had developed that habit himself;   Nonetheless, it is heartening to hear;   That he has decided to take responsibility now;   As this is the ground on where to begin an h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > But I think > > > the real issue is that most Ame

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread Vaj
On 9/13/05 2:58 PM, "akasha_108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice dismissive answer. Now can you go beyond that and actually make a > factual, current data and/or observation case as to why strip clubs > exploit women as sex objects. Read the brief study abstract I posted. If you don't get it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I am guessing judy's view is imagination based al

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread anonymousff
Just popped in to take a break and look around. Found this thread. Just curious if Akasha and others might address the question of why he/they experience such strong emotional energy around this subject as to feel compelled to write long defenses of his/their positions or critiques of others'.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'In Praise Of President Bush/Taking Responsibility'

2005-09-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Our "Baby Boomer" generation; > > Has been branded, in the past; > > For being irresponsible; > > And perhaps President Bush; > > Had developed that habit himself; > > Nonetheless, it is heartening to hear;

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/13/05 2:58 PM, "akasha_108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Nice dismissive answer. Now can you go beyond that and actually make a > > factual, current data and/or observation case as to why strip clubs > > explo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread Peter
--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > > If there is an issue here, it is how sexual images > stimulate the > draw of the senses, relative to the inner state of > the mind. If the > mind is weak, it is drawn out easily by the senses, > obsessed by all > of the tantalizing pleasur

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra

2005-09-13 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/13/05 2:48 PM, "akasha_108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > John Lennon said it when he said "Woman is the nigger of the world." >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > If you think my view of strip clubs depends on what > > > I think they look like and what happens inside--other > > > than wome

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'In Praise Of President Bush/Taking Responsibility'

2005-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Our "Baby Boomer" generation; > > > > Has been branded, in the past; > > > > For being irresponsible; > > > > And perhaps Pr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am seeking understanding and new insights. Quite so. None of my > views are laid in cement. And my identity is not at all tied to my > views or their "correctness". I change my views regularly when I get > new informat

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'In Praise Of President Bush/Taking Responsibility'

2005-09-13 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Our "Baby Boomer" generation; > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Computer noise (was: Re: ADM X2 Dual Core Processor 4400 2MB L2 Cache)

2005-09-13 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you have heat problems with all that speed? I have a fast > PC (forget the speed and it's turned off at the moment) with > hyperthreading and when it heats up, the CPU fan sounds like > a jet engine. So I put several

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'In Praise Of President Bush/Taking Responsibility'

2005-09-13 Thread markmeredith2002
Did anyone here actually see the video of the so-called taking responsibility? I'd hold off on any poetry about the bravery of the admission. The actual phrasing, voice inflection and body language is in contradiction to taking responsibility -- it's reminds me of a mischievious boy being forced

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick, please ban Off World for his lewdness

2005-09-13 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 9/13/05 9:54 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> on 9/13/05 1:22 AM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just popped in to take a break and look around. Found this thread. > Just curious if Akasha and others might address the question of why > he/they experience such strong emotional energy around this subject > as to fe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Yoga Class

2005-09-13 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Rick, > I am offering a free tele-class over the phone on Ciella Kollander¹s Yoga of > Fearless Self-Expression tomorrow > There is now scientific evidence that the human physiology is a perfect counterpart or repli

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'In Praise Of President Bush/Taking Responsibility'

2005-09-13 Thread Robert Gimbel
All of the comments are true; But I did think it was a departure; That he at least speak the words; Which before this, he was saying; He was just "working there"; And the department of whatever(FEMA); Was mostly responsible. As far as "baby boomers" taking responsibility; Issues have been used, i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Objectification and De-objectification of Women

2005-09-13 Thread anonymousff
Thank you Akasha. I am still amazed by your willingness to invest the energy, intellectual energy, if you will. Pardon me for not carefully rereading everything that you wrote on this subject, but is the definition of objectification that you are using something along the lines of enjoying more

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