Re: [Felvtalk] VooDoo's Home
yay Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Melinda Kerr To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, June 25, 2011 7:52:40 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] VooDoo's Home OK, so who says miracles and divine intervention do not exist? After a couple of hours in the very hot sun, I found evidence that maybe VooDoo was alive and close by. Then, I discovered that the police now have a NO trapping policy. I went to my Japanese vet to see if he could find a trap. He was going to call the city on Monday. So, back to being a little stressed, feeling as though my best hope was gone. A couple of hours later, a very short, but really hard rain came and I was once again concerned because I thought he was hiding in a drain pipe. As soon as the rain ended, I went to the back door and called out asking him to come home. What do you know, he answered me with his crazy, whiny cry. After a few minutes of trying to coax him into the house, I decided that he was either trapped or hurt. I called to him and he continued to call back. Once I located him hiding under a tree, I belly crawled on the wet ground to where he was. I reached under, in the dark, expecting the worst. However, he let me grab him and pull him out. So, 48 hours after going missing, my baby is home safe and sound. We will be watching closely for sniffles and signs of fever! Thank you all for your advice and positive vibes. I truly believe that they worked. Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali Kitten - Going to see Dr. Wright in Dallas at 2:00 today
great! I look forward to hearing about a visit with a compassionate open-minded vet:) Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: "ckess...@cox.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 11:47:25 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali Kitten - Going to see Dr. Wright in Dallas at 2:00 today Ben, I am going to see Dr. Wright at 2:00 today. Cali ate really good last night and actually played a little, but today her fever is back up and she doesn't want to eat. Thank you for your suggestion of Dr. Wright. I will see what Dr. Wright has to say and let everyone know. Cathy Ben Williams wrote: = I have to agree - we give all of our kitties a supplement called "kittievite" - it's a malt paste with a good daily multivitamin included... They never want to just eat the stuff, so we smear a little on their haunches, and they go about cleaning themselves and getting their vitamins. Works like a charm and the effects are almost immediately noticeable in their luxuriously shiny coats! On the subject of vets in the Dallas area, we see Dr. Benjamin Wright at Lakewood Vet Clinic - he's great with felv cats and is always open to trying new things. He saved our Dexter last year, so I have nothing but awesome things to say about him. His office can be reached at 214.826.4800. Dr wright is ordering the T-cell treatment for Dexter - hoping to have it thursday. Ben On Jun 21, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Natalie wrote: > Cathy - I forgot to mention that good veterinarians also believe in vitamin >supplements. Our vet always gives any of our sick cats injectable vitamin >supplements to help them get better, Vitamin B12, C etc. - ask your vet or >future vet - it helps a lot! > Natalie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ckess...@cox.net > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:14 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Cc: Kelley Saveika > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten > > Thanks Kelley, > > When we adopted Sasha, she had been tested and vaccinated when we adopted > her. >We had her tested again yesterday and she was still negative. > > > I live in a two bedroom apartment, so it's really hard to keep them separated >unless we adopt out Sasha. I don't really want to do that either. I have >seen >a post for a vet in Dallas at Lakewood Veterinary Hospital that seems to work >with people with kittens who are FELV+. I guess I will look into him. > > Blood transfusions are so expensive though. There is so much to do and it >seems like so little time. I appreciate your words of encouragement. > > Cathy > > Kelley Saveika wrote: > > = > Hi Cathy, > > I feel your pain - when my Missy was diagnosed with severe congenital heart > disease, I thought I would die. But they all die of something, > unfortunately, and I think the "special health" kitties are the most special > in other ways. > > We have a wonderful lady on this list who volunteers in an FELV sanctuary. > Maybe she can give you some advice. > > > I would definitely change vets - we adopted out a double pos (FIV+ and > FELV+) to a lady in Waco about 2 years ago and she is going strong. I would > get a confirmatory IFA test. I would get my other cat tested and > vaccinated. You may want to separate them. Some do and some don't. > > I would not put her to sleep because she may be carrying a virus that may > make her sick someday. Even the feral cat people are getting away from PTS > based on the result of a test. > > Love and light, > > Kelley > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:40 PM, wrote: > >> I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and >> I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to >> start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. >> We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and >> overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, >> I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been >> little, but playful and happy until last week. >> >> They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had >> ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who >> get it - die. >> >> Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas >> last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should >> be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, >> so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and >> she is very healthy. >> >> The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
at this point, there is no purpose or advantage to separating Cali and Sasha - if Sasha was vaccinated for FeLV prior to you adopting her, then she's fine. Please talk to the vet at the clinic I found on www.catvets.com. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: "ckess...@cox.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Kelley Saveika Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 4:13:51 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten Thanks Kelley, When we adopted Sasha, she had been tested and vaccinated when we adopted her. We had her tested again yesterday and she was still negative. I live in a two bedroom apartment, so it's really hard to keep them separated unless we adopt out Sasha. I don't really want to do that either. I have seen a post for a vet in Dallas at Lakewood Veterinary Hospital that seems to work with people with kittens who are FELV+. I guess I will look into him. Blood transfusions are so expensive though. There is so much to do and it seems like so little time. I appreciate your words of encouragement. Cathy Kelley Saveika wrote: = Hi Cathy, I feel your pain - when my Missy was diagnosed with severe congenital heart disease, I thought I would die. But they all die of something, unfortunately, and I think the "special health" kitties are the most special in other ways. We have a wonderful lady on this list who volunteers in an FELV sanctuary. Maybe she can give you some advice. I would definitely change vets - we adopted out a double pos (FIV+ and FELV+) to a lady in Waco about 2 years ago and she is going strong. I would get a confirmatory IFA test. I would get my other cat tested and vaccinated. You may want to separate them. Some do and some don't. I would not put her to sleep because she may be carrying a virus that may make her sick someday. Even the feral cat people are getting away from PTS based on the result of a test. Love and light, Kelley On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:40 PM, wrote: > I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and > I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to > start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. > We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and > overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, > I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been > little, but playful and happy until last week. > > They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had > ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who > get it - die. > > Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas > last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should > be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, > so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and > she is very healthy. > > The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me > that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't > get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say > a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds > and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength > to put her to sleep. > > She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. > > Cathy Kessel > (858) 361-8972 > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue." - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleuk
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
a 2nd opinion wouldn't be a bad thing. ALL living creatures die, regardless of any specific viral status. 1. Did they use the 3-way [felv fiv heartworm] elisa test? This test has a history of large numbers of false positives. 2. is Sasha vaccinated for FeLV? what's her approx age? If she's an adult, she's safer than another kitten, and if she's also vaccinated, I wouldn't worry at all. 3. is the lethargy caused by anemia? 4. if so, what kind of anemia? there's regenerative, which has frequently been treated with success and non-regenerative, which is much more serious and harder to treat. 5. what other work was done? was there blood work? get copies of the results. if the 3-way test is the only thing that was done, get proper blood work done. I searched www.catvets.com for members in Dallas and there's only one entry, but she's gotta be a better choice: 1 Doctors Found. Dr. Raina Weldon Cat Hospital of Dallas 9780 LBJ Freeway Suite 105 Dallas, TX 75243 United States Phone: (214) 348-2463 Website: www.CatHospitalOfDallas.com Practice Type: Feline Only Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: "ckess...@cox.net" To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 3:40:35 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Elisa/IFA clarification
I asked my vets for clarification on the significance of these two tests and here is their response. Here is the information from the Cornell University website about Feline Leukemia stages and testing. If you would like more information, you can go to their link athttp://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/felv.html I understand there are two stages of FeLV infection. What are they? FeLV is present in the blood (a condition called viremia) during two different stages of infection: · Primary viremia, an early stage of virus infection. During this stage some cats are able to mount an effective immune response, eliminate the virus from the bloodstream, and halt progression to the secondary viremia stage. · Secondary viremia, a later stage characterized by persistent infection of the bone marrow and other tissue. If FeLV infection progresses to this stage it has passed a point of no return: the overwhelming majority of cats with secondary viremia will be infected for the remainder of their lives. How is infection diagnosed? Two types of FeLV blood tests are in common use. Both detect a protein component of the virus as it circulates in the bloodstream. · ELISA (enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay) and similar tests can be performed in your veterinarian's office. ELISA-type tests detect both primary and secondary stages of viremia. · IFA (indirect immunofluorescent antibody assay) tests must be sent out to a diagnostic laboratory. IFA tests detect secondary viremia only, so the majority of positive-testing cats remain infected for life. Each testing method has strengths and weaknesses. Your veterinarian will likely suggest an ELISA-type test first, but in some cases, both tests must be performed—and perhaps repeated—to clarify a cat's true infection status. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats
Not as a regular part of their practice, but they have always been open to new information and research I've brought. The first vet I used there, who is no longer there, had FeLV+ kittehs herself, so the viral status was just another piece of information to have in the kittehs file. they might have a holistic practice that they work with, but I've never looked into it. if you end up using them, tell 'em I sent you:) http://catcareclinic.net/ Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Pam Norman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 8:31:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats I'm in Spring Green! It is good to know that the CCC can work with FeLeuk kitties, altho I have a good vet nearby in Dodgeville. Do they use any holistic treatments? On 6/11/2011 9:22 PM, Barb Moermond wrote: > I'm in Madison and use Cat Care Clinic. Both of the vets there are members of > AAFP [www.catvets.com] and are both good with my babies. I've been going there > since Ninja was diagnosed FeLV+ and suffering from seizures etc. So, I've been > going to them since 1998 and still love them. If you look at catvets.com, you > will be able to find other vet members by ZIP code. There are other members at > other clinics here in the area, but I like the fact that CCC is cats only and > they know my babies. > Barb+Smoky the House Puma+Miss Lilly Bird+Angel BanditNo > > > "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living >his > life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." > > - Anonymous > > > > > > From: Pam Norman > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 9:57:02 PM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats > > Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I talked to a > wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina)& his first > recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would > probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic. That regular blood > work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement. Certainly hope that is >the > case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000! > > I would like to combine the services of a good regular vet, which I think I > have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk > kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing >vets, > I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that? > > Are any of you in Wisconsin? > > Pam > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats
Yes, an open-minded vet willing to look into new things is key. CCC has always been open to all of the information I've sent them over the years; willing to discuss issues etc. I am also the one who introduced them to Rescue Remedy! :) Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Melinda Kerr To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 10:19:33 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats I am in a unique situation. We live on a military base in Japan with limited resources. I take my cats to a general practice Japanese vet. He has kept my Fuji alive and healthy for almost a year. She is FeLV positive with Mediastinal Lymphoma. I never had the opportunity to give her supplements or any of the other treatments that others use. My own experience had been that a low stress environment, attention to the slightest signs of illness, decent food and lots and lots of love have been sufficient! Of course every cat is different, but it seems as though a regular vet who is willing to do a bit of research on occasion is good enough for an asymptomatic cat. Melinda, Fuji, and VooDoo Sent from my iPhone On Jun 11, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Pam Norman wrote: > Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I talked to a >wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina) & his first >recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would >probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic. That regular blood >work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement. Certainly hope that is >the >case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000! > > I would like to combine the services of a good regular vet, which I think I >have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk >kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing >vets, >I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that? > > Are any of you in Wisconsin? > > Pam > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats
I'm in Madison and use Cat Care Clinic. Both of the vets there are members of AAFP [www.catvets.com] and are both good with my babies. I've been going there since Ninja was diagnosed FeLV+ and suffering from seizures etc. So, I've been going to them since 1998 and still love them. If you look at catvets.com, you will be able to find other vet members by ZIP code. There are other members at other clinics here in the area, but I like the fact that CCC is cats only and they know my babies. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+Miss Lilly Bird+Angel BanditNo "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Pam Norman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 9:57:02 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I talked to a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina) & his first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic. That regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement. Certainly hope that is the case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000! I would like to combine the services of a good regular vet, which I think I have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that? Are any of you in Wisconsin? Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Rosie & Lola are safely home - - Bless you - - may others be so gracious to us - - cat's eyes
my Ninja had odd pupils once she started having health problems. they would be unevenly dilated etc they checked her ocular pressure and it was actually a little low, so not uveitis. it's absolutely worth checking out, but anecdotally, felv+ kitties sometimes have inexplicable weird pupil stuff - and it's usually just weirdness, nothing actually wrong Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: czadna sacarawicz To: feline leukemia list Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 5:32:29 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Rosie & Lola are safely home - - Bless you - - may others be so gracious to us - - cat's eyes in sights? The four t-n-r ferals at Tractor Supply all have weird pupils. I can pet 3 of the four. I picked up Henry and brought him home Sunday night because he had an area under his eye that has not healed over several months. It looks like a puncture wound. The three original cat's eyes all seemed perfect when I started feeding them - - about 2 years ago. Henry was trapped last September at a close by restaurant and relocated himself. His pupils were perfect then. There are several restaurants in the area so they spend time eating there probably - - deep fried "fish". Tractor Supply puts out dry food. I feed a can and a half of Evo at night. Henry's eyes are way too dilated. There is no blink reflex in one of them and a slight one in the other. We are going to the vet on Saturday. web sites talk about taurine deficiency. The mama's pupils seem constricted. comments? czadna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Time to step down from rescuing for a time being.
my thoughts are with you and your husband - spend as much time as you can with him Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: "ter...@tazzys.org" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 8:09:59 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Time to step down from rescuing for a time being. Hi all,I'm taking some time off from rescue due to my husband's illness. He has liver failure and is not a candidate for a transplant. He has been hospitalized 2 times this month and once last month he was placed into a skill nursing facility since the 18th of February after the first trip to the hospital. He is in the end final stage of his disease his liver has stopped working. Can die at any given time. He is being given all the pain meds he wants for comfort so he will most likely fall asleep an never wake up again. I want to make myself available at all times for him. He is only 64 years old... I know to some of you that may sound old but it isn't really. Hospice has been part of this as well to help me cope with all of this. Hospice is available to me 24 hours a day. Sincerely, Terrie TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question.....
well, my ninja was 4-5 when she came to me and all that I know about her previous history is that she was indoor/outdoor and spayed. she'd been with me for about 4 years when she started having problems and it was another 5 months or so before I had her tested for FeLV and she was positive, but it was her other health issues that were the real problems. a seizure inducing brain tumor and in the end, intestinal lymphoma. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 3:56:46 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question. And I also wonder about adult cats that are FeLV+, and perfectly healthy. I've never had adults with no symptoms, only a kitten that died years ago. Eliot Spitty is about 5 yrs old, and Mr. Tux about 6 yrs old. I wonder how that will work out in the coming years - they get supplements, good food, etc. Has anyone had that experience, and how long did it take, if at all, before the cats started getting symptoms or related cancers? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question. One thought process that I've run into is that a healthy adult cat (FELV negative) has a hearty enough immune system to successfully deal with the FELV virus without acquiring it. I can't see that vaccinating them at this point would be of value. Just my 2c Gloria > From: Maureen Olvey > Date: March 21, 2011 12:07:44 PM CDT > To: > Subject: [Felvtalk] Yet another question. > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > I've mentioned my kitty Two Face earlier because she died two weeks > ago and when they did the necropsy they found out she had a huge > tumor and was FeLV +. Since then I've had a few of my other kitties > tested with the combo/snap test at the vet's office. All have come > out negative so far, thank the Lord for that. These other kitties > that have tested negative lived with Two Face for over a year. > Sharing litterboxes, food bowls and all that stuff. I would think > that would mean that they had enough exposure to the virus to get it > in their system and that they either extinguished the virus or put > it into a dormant status. Is that a reasonable assumption? My main > question now is should I give them a FeLV vaccination. If they did > get the virus in their system and extinguished it then they're > immune for life, right? If so, there's no need for a vaccination. > Is it possible with all that exposure that they didn't get enough of > the virus into their system to do any harm? If that's the case then > I should vaccinate them? I just don't know how they could not have > gotten enough exposure since they lived together and shared > everything for over a year. > > Thoughts? > > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results > that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it > inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward > it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without > looking further." - Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] MaryChristine
oh thank the gods - a friend i know? I've been sending GLOW steadily and don't know anybody local there I could call. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Gloria B. Lane To: Feline Leukemia Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 1:18:37 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] MaryChristine Just fyi, for those who know MaryChristine - she had heart bypass surgery on Monday, over yonder in New York State. The update from a friend of hers says that she's out of intensive care, now in a regular room, and doing well. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV playing paws under door with non FeLV cats
I think your precautions aren't necessary if your neg is up to date with vaccinations. I wouldn't be worried at all and would think about starting to introduce them properly. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: dana giordano To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 3:30:56 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV playing paws under door with non FeLV cats My kitties have suddenly begun playing paws under the door of my rescued IFA positive FeLV cat and I'm wondering how worried I should be? I'm kind of worried but it seems he likes to do this and I don't want to take it away from him as it's his only kitty interaction - he hasn't had any or been interested - since I caught him a year ago. Their paws can't get all the way under the door - the gap is about a half inch high - but they get about halfway and he can get about halfway, so I think they do touch, even if it's only for a moment. I wash everything separately, and I wear flip flops in his room (although I leave them outside the door. :() I don't change clothes after playing with him, but I do wash my hands/arms. He's about 10 years old, from what the neighborhood people have told me, and he's been confirmed IFA positive FeLV and FIV positive since I rescued him a year ago. I can see he's been feeling better and better and getting more energetic as I've dewormed him, along with steady food/water/care. So I imagine he may start trying to instigate paws himself, soon. He's got a window but even that gets old, I imagine. Anyone have any thoughts on how much increased risk there is /concern I should have with playing paws? Dana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] BOB
I'm so sorry - GLOW to light his path and ease your heart. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 6:56:46 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] BOB BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS THRU AND SOMEHOW ALWAYS COMES BACK . MY BOBY DIED WEDNESDAY THE 8TH. HE DID NOT SHOW UP FOR FOOD AND WHEN I FOUND HIM, HE WAS ALREADY GROWING COLD. DECIDED NOT TO DO AUTOPSY, WOULD NOT BRING HIM BACK AND WOULD ONLY MUTILATE HIM. I MISS HIM. HE WAS SUCH A GENTLE SOUL AND TOOK SUCH GOOD CARE OF THE KITTENS WHEN I BROUGHT THEM HOME. HE BATHED THEM AND TAUGHT THEM TO HUNT AND WRESTLED WITH THEM AND THEY ALL SLEPT TOGETHER. I HAVE PICTURES TO REMEMBER, BUT NOT THE SAME. HE WAS ONLY 5 AND THERE WAS NO WARNING . ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlie to the CLS list
GLOW to light his path and ease your heart. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Beth To: FeLV Talk Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 12:47:10 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlie to the CLS list Charlie was a little Flame Pt. Siamese mix kitten with Medium super soft hair. He was a joy to have around & purred constantly. Charlie lost his battle with FeLV this morning. He had been going down hill for a week or so, but had a good night last night where his rescue mom got to visit & he ate almost a whole jar of baby food. This morning, however, he hardly ate anything, even with an appetite stimulant. His 3rd eyelids were up & he would have to rest after walking only a few feet. He was not in my life for long, but he made a big impression on me & his rescue mom. We love you little boy!You can see pics of Charlie on the FeLV Cats FD page at: http://tinyurl.com/27gdqas Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] please add Tiger to the CLS
GLOW to light his path and ease your heart. Don't beat yourself up; our little loves hide weakness and sickness incredibly well. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: LauraM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 3:57:14 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] please add Tiger to the CLS Tiger didn't have FeLV, but he passed away last night, much too soon. He was thirteen. I'd had him for three years. He was always a gentleman & a loving, sweet boy. Three weeks ago we went to the vet. Something was wrong; he was sluggish and not eating well. It turns out he had a large abcess in his throat. The abcess was lanced, a whole lot of dead tissue was removed, we were sent home with antibiotics and everyone thought things would be fine. They weren't - there was a second vet visit last Monday, the abcess was drained again & he was given more fluids. Tiger was hospitalized this Monday. The abcess wouldn't clear up, and even though he was given a stronger antibiotic he just couldn't fight the infection. I visited him yesterday and he ate for me and purred and purred. I didn't want to get my hopes up too high, but I still wasn't expecting my vet to call this morning & give me the news that he'd died. I thought maybe we had a little bit of a chance. It turns out that Tiger had a hole in his esophagus; he must have ingested something that cut him. I would give anything to have him back with me. I wish I had taken him in sooner. He'd been quiet this summer, and not sleeping with me at night like he normally did, but everybody was quiet this summer because the house was so warm. Nobody else was snuggling with me on the bed either. I didn't pick up on the little signs that he wasn't feeling well. If I had, he might still be alive today. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] faint pos on snap test, neg on IFA
it's a yes/no test, no shades of grey the antigens are either present or not "faint" pos is a meaningless term Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Gloria B. Lane To: Feline Leukemia Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 6:30:22 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] faint pos on snap test, neg on IFA I've been asked about a cat here in Arkansas - a Persian named Bicford, that is about 1.5 yrs old, and tested "faint" positive on the snap test (Elisa), but negative on the IFA. I gather that means that Bicford has been exposed, so has antigens, but doesn't have the virus in his blood? I'm confused. Can someone help me with interpreting what that means? Thanks, Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FIV/FELV teen awaiting retest, in heat--Do we spay?
I think that in order to keep this a civil and safe place to exchange information, we need to please address any issues we have with other list-members directly to them - off list. It's also a good idea to evaluate whether it's the content of the message that irks or the way it is being perceived - and then to also remember that plain text does not convey any other secondary communication - body language, tone etc. my .02 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Michelle Brockman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, August 27, 2010 4:13:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV/FELV teen awaiting retest, in heat--Do we spay? Also, you are coming across in e-mails as very abrasive. You are not the only one that rescues/cares for/knows about FeLV and you should respect other people's perspectives and experiences. I gave her an 'What I would do' scenario based on my personal experiences. I have been on this list for many many years and perhaps do not respond as much as you do but am in no way a novice when it comes to these matters. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc.
I'd be interested in more info about this too Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: jbero tds.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 4:08:34 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc. Michelle, If you have a cat with SCC, I would highly highly recommend doing the salve. If you join the group (I can send you an email from the group and you can join it) the woman who runs it generally makes the salve and you can get it from her. It's not expensive. I have seen it work miracles in the time I have been in the group. In fact we recently used it for a tumor mass on my dog's tails - within two weeks the tumor had dissolved. Everyone sends pictures and you can see the progress - it is amazing. I'll send you an email from the group. Jenny On 8/24/10, Barb Moermond wrote: > > Hey Michelle, > does he have any other health problems? food allergies can show themselves > in > the skin and it might be more than just the squamous cell. is any of the > lesion > simply irritated skin around the cancer? If so, i would probably go with > something like eucerin creme original or eucerin calming creme (has > oatmeal) > around the edges [my derm recommends it and it's got fewer ingredients and > works > really well - very mild] > > does he medicate easily? is any of that in his food or applied topically > (thinking the oil for soothing)? with that many things in the mix, i'd be > hesitant to add more. if you do try something else, think about stopping > something he's currently getting. > I went through this and did tons of research and spent money I shouldn't > have in > order throw anything that sounded good at Ninja. She was seizure free her > last > 2 months, but she ended up having intestinal lymphoma and there's not much > you > can do except palliative care. > > I think that all of us need to step back once in a while and think about > how > we're treating/dealing with our ill companions and how much is actually for > them, to ease pain and prolong quality of life, as opposed to for us > because we > can't bear to lose them. i'm on the lower end numbers-wise and have only > had to > make the decision twice as an adult (family pets when i was a kid were > mom's > decisions) and each time i've learned more about the grace our friends walk > in > and how they have NO baggage about death and dying - it simply is - and how > much > i still have to learn. > Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito > > > "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely > living his > life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." > > - Anonymous > > > > > > From: Michelle Brockman > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 1:12:25 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc. > > > Natalie, what is this group and how do you find out how to make this > tea/balm? > One of my cats has squamous cell on his nose. I give him C-Caps herbal > cancer > pills, Vetri DMG, Reishi mushroom blend and fish oil capsules everyday. The > inflamation seems to be getting better but his nose is a bloody scabby > mess. =( > > > > Michelle Brockman > "It is when we forget ourselves that we do the things which will be > remembered" > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:34:28 -0400 > > From: at...@optonline.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc. > > > > Might you consider making and administering an herbal tonic/tea made of > > Graviola, Chaparral, Andreographis, and Neem? In a Google group, which is > > really for people who are interested in alternative cancer treatments, > many > > have been using the tonic internally and a black salve externally on > tumors > > (or both), even terminal squamous cell on a cat's face and jaw right now, > > many have been using it on their animals: Horses, dogs, cats, rabbits for > > all types if cancer, often very successfully. Even when combined with > > traditional things like chemo, it still helps and makes the quality of > life > > and death a lot better! If interested, you can join the group and while > > treating the animal, advice is given by all membersCats do not > tolerate > > it well because one of the herbs causes them to froth at the mouth, > however, >
Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc
did the vet have any idea about why a rejection would occur? surely it's standard to type the donor and donee before transfusing... it's an option in the tool box and knowing about it is good. also, every cat is different [just like us] and mileage may vary when it comes to various treatments Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Michelle Brockman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 3:53:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc I always caution people about transfusions based on my own experience. Our kitten needed a transfusion due to her levels being so low which she did get. After the transfusion she perked up and seemed like she was getting better however an hour and half after she started to crash. Three hours later she was dead. The vet said that cats can have a bad reaction to the transfusion and in essence 'reject' the new blood. I wasn't aware if this before hand. I would have rather had a few more days with her rather than be blindsided by her death by transfusionif she was going to die anyway. Hopefully someone can give some helpful suggestions - I just know that transfusions, depending on the circumstances aren't always the best answer. I know too that we tried procrit but that took too long to have any effect and ultimately was pointless. Prayers for Josie... Michelle Brockman "It is when we forget ourselves that we do the things which will be remembered" > From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:57:26 -0400 > To: lini...@fastmail.fm; gcru...@centurytel.net; ma...@bemikitties.com; >FeLVTalk@felineleukemia.org; felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com; >cats.ro...@gmail.com > Subject: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc > > just got an email from a rescue i work with, about someone who adopted > a FeLV positive a few months ago. kitty is NOT doing well--with a > hematocrit of 8. she asked her vet about doing a transfusion, and he > said that's not done with FeLV cats. well, other than getting a new > vet, i'm asking you guys for help. (he's also saying it could be > whatever-they're-now-calling-hemobartenellosis.) i've got all the info > from the rescue, and the contact info of the cat's mom. > > i know that some of you have experience with this, which i do not: if > any of you are willing/able to help walk lisa (the human) and josie > (the cat) through this, please let me know! feline anemia boards? i've > suggested she check www.adopt.bemikitties for local vets (she MAY be > in the miami, FL area, but not sure on that yet--that's where the > rescue is), as well as amer assn of feline practitioners for a vet > near her, but i think that talking with someone who knows what they're > talking about would be a big help. > > thanks! > > MC, out of her depth > -- > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > MaryChristine > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) > Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc.
Hey Michelle, does he have any other health problems? food allergies can show themselves in the skin and it might be more than just the squamous cell. is any of the lesion simply irritated skin around the cancer? If so, i would probably go with something like eucerin creme original or eucerin calming creme (has oatmeal) around the edges [my derm recommends it and it's got fewer ingredients and works really well - very mild] does he medicate easily? is any of that in his food or applied topically (thinking the oil for soothing)? with that many things in the mix, i'd be hesitant to add more. if you do try something else, think about stopping something he's currently getting. I went through this and did tons of research and spent money I shouldn't have in order throw anything that sounded good at Ninja. She was seizure free her last 2 months, but she ended up having intestinal lymphoma and there's not much you can do except palliative care. I think that all of us need to step back once in a while and think about how we're treating/dealing with our ill companions and how much is actually for them, to ease pain and prolong quality of life, as opposed to for us because we can't bear to lose them. i'm on the lower end numbers-wise and have only had to make the decision twice as an adult (family pets when i was a kid were mom's decisions) and each time i've learned more about the grace our friends walk in and how they have NO baggage about death and dying - it simply is - and how much i still have to learn. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Michelle Brockman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 1:12:25 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc. Natalie, what is this group and how do you find out how to make this tea/balm? One of my cats has squamous cell on his nose. I give him C-Caps herbal cancer pills, Vetri DMG, Reishi mushroom blend and fish oil capsules everyday. The inflamation seems to be getting better but his nose is a bloody scabby mess. =( Michelle Brockman "It is when we forget ourselves that we do the things which will be remembered" > Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:34:28 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc. > > Might you consider making and administering an herbal tonic/tea made of > Graviola, Chaparral, Andreographis, and Neem? In a Google group, which is > really for people who are interested in alternative cancer treatments, many > have been using the tonic internally and a black salve externally on tumors > (or both), even terminal squamous cell on a cat's face and jaw right now, > many have been using it on their animals: Horses, dogs, cats, rabbits for > all types if cancer, often very successfully. Even when combined with > traditional things like chemo, it still helps and makes the quality of life > and death a lot better! If interested, you can join the group and while > treating the animal, advice is given by all membersCats do not tolerate > it well because one of the herbs causes them to froth at the mouth, however, > I have discovered a food mixture which a cat that I treated recently, > absolutely devoured! Natalie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Weese > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 6:10 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc. > > > My 10+ yo cat, Vixen, now has FeLV+ spinal fluid and brain inflammation > which is causing head bobbing and weakness/uncoordination in the back legs. > The most likely scenario is now lymphoma. She has always been very robust > and healthy (and pink) even though being diagnosed with FeLV as a kitten. > > Now, this. > > She is still eating good although she has lost a little weight -- she still > likes to be around me and the other cats, but... I have an apptmt with the > oncologist next week, and just don't know whether to treat or to do simply > pallative care. I know cats can respond well to chemo, but my other cancer > cats did not have FeLV. So I was looking for any ideas, suggestions, etc., > that folks might have. > > She is still on some antibiotics while we wait for final reports on several > infectious diseases but the prelim reports have showed no infectious > diseases. She is also taking an anti-inflammatory dose of pred. > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@feline
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie - Please add to CLS
GLOW to light his path and ease your heart. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Beth To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 4:11:49 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie - Please add to CLS What a blessed little kitty. It sounds like you enhanced each other's lives. Bless you for giving him such a loving & happy home when others were going to give up on him. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Mon, 8/23/10, Amy wrote: From: Amy Subject: [Felvtalk] Wolfie - Please add to CLS To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 3:30 PM Wolfie left us today after a long battle with leukemia. I took him in 6 years ago after he was found in a pole barn and was going to be put to sleep after testing positive. I still remember going to see him for the first time. He had cuts under his eyes and looked so sad. I couldn't possibly resist even though my husband is horribly allergic to cats. Wolfie thrived in our home and was a joy to live with for the past 6 years. The horrible sores under his eyes went away and he grew to be one of my biggest boys. He was always a momma's boy and spent hours and hours on my chest purring and kneading daily. Even when I was pregnant, he spent every night on my belly. He was the most opinionated cat I've ever had and he insisted on his way at all times but it was an honor to know him. He was diagnosed with non-regenerative anemia on my b-day last year and has graced me with almost another year to enjoy him. I'm so grateful for that time with him. He has fought for the last year with such strength, courage and amazing determination. However, he decided today was the end of the fight. I wouldn't expect anything less from him. My favorite number is 23 (hence my e-mail address awilkins23) and while it's a sad day, I'm glad that I will think of Wolfie with wonderful memories every time I see that number. Thanks for all the advice and support that I've been given while trying to help Wolfie beat this disease. Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] cat litter
$10?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I stopped using it because a 17lb back was over $20 - even with a break - holy frijoles i really loved it though - it's much better than swheat scoop because it doesn't turn into sticky cement Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 9:50:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] cat litter hello everyone, just found a great new litter called World's Best Cat Litter. i found it at Tractor Supply in Troy, Mo., but they are starting to sell through PetsMart and PetCo. it comes in 3 diferent sizes. it is great, a 17 lb bag costs $10.00 and it lasts longer than clay litter. best of all, it is gound up corn so it is biodegradeable, light weight compared to clay, clumps really good (even Dee can't break up the clumps), doesn't smell and lasts longer because you can get out whole clumps and don't waste as much. i called them and they sent me a $3.00 coupon. also sent me to Smart Source.com where i got another $3.00 coupon. they started out in New York area and now are spreading across the country. i live in the country so i just made another compost pile for the cat litter. even if you are in the city and cannot have compost piles, when it gets to the landfil, it will break down and not hurt the environment. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Beltza 2009-2010
I'm so sorry. GLOW to light her path and ease your heart. You will remember her and what you have learned from having her in your life forever. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Ana Gutierrez To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 2:06:29 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Beltza 2009-2010 Dear all, Thanks for being so supportive. Beltza left this morning. Fortunately, I spend all yesterdays afternoon with her, and had a chance to say good-bye. I'll miss her my whole life. Ana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7
Here is some good information on FeLV and testing. The IFA is a different type of test. http://www.marleyfund.com/testing.aspx#selection Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Ana Gutierrez To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 10:35:22 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7 Dear Sharyl, Barb, Natalie and all Thank you. She has non-regenerative anemia. Yesterday she started receiving the EPO, and this morning we were able to find a compatible cat to make a transfusion. Nevertheless, the blood count hasn't improved. If she lives a few more days, the EPO might work for her. Barb, IFA? Iron Folic Acid? for supplement? Please tell me more Natalie, thanks for your vet answer. At this point, I'd rather risk with the EPO, since she doesn't have much chances. Thank you all. Best wishes, Ana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Beltza and myself
With a positive Elisa test, the next testing step would be IFA, if that's available. This usually gets sent to a lab. It does sound like the next treatment step would be a transfusion. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 11:06:31 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Beltza and myself Dear Ana, Are you sure that it's FeLV and not just regular leukemia? I have had both, but never at the same time in one cat. But that's just my experience. I will forward this to my vet and see what he says, OK? Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ana Gutierrez Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 11:39 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Beltza and myself > Hi, > I am new to the mailing list. > I live in México and I am studying my PhD in microbiology, bioinformatics and genomic sciences -- in case I can be of any help. > My cat, Beltza was recently diagnosed (last Saturday)as FeLV+ and the blood count show almost no red blood cells. The best vet I have found in my town is attending her, she is staying with him at his hospital. He told me he had ordered erythropoeitin to treat her anemia, as it was the first thing to resolve for her. I read an article about how cats express antibodies against human and hence cat hormone. I am terryfied. I will ask him not to use the hormone, but I don't know which is the treatment to use. Do you know which is the correct treatment for anemia? She has all the symptoms for anemia (her tongue is white) and that is the reason of her staying at the vet "hospital". She refuses to eat, she has lost 4 pounds now, please help me I don't want her to die. I rescued her from the streets last November, she was six months old and she was pregnant, malnourished, she had a broken rib, a broken tooth, and her whiskers were burned. I ask the vet for an abortion since there are too much homeless kitties in this world, and to spayed her. She was fully recovered and so gorgeous, until last month... when a dog bit her, and then a spider ( *Loxosceles reclusa*) bit her, the tissue was in necrosis, so a surgery was needed to prevent a higher necrosis. I believe that all these, plus the stress, plus the antibiotics, analgesics and anesthesia is the reason for her viral and anemial crisis. I hope you guys know how to treat her anemia, any help will be greatly appreciatted. I want her back home. Thanks in advance, Ana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Knox and treatment of felv
aafp also stands for american association of feline practitioners http://catvets.com/ Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: jbero tds.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 11:31:22 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Knox and treatment of felv I am sorry, but I am not familiar with feLIX and my only association with AAFP is the american association of family practitioners. I'm not sure why felv would be addressed in any guidelines they put out. Could you enlighten me. Jenny On 4/20/10, MaryChristine wrote: > > there's no mention of it in the 2008 AAFP guidelines, and i would expect it > to be there. > > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:51 PM, jbero tds.net wrote: > > > Granted it is older, but I see nothing in the literature later to refute > > this information. > > > > On 4/20/10, MaryChristine wrote: > > > > > > check the date: 1996. see my other note! > > > > > > i found a link to a 2000 article in the same journal. is there anything > > > later than, say, 2005? > > > > > > MC > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:31 PM, jbero tds.net wrote: > > > > > > > Okay, this is kind of technical but it basically supports the idea > that > > > > mutations (in this case deletions in DNA) result in a more virulent > and > > > > pathogenic virus worsening the disease state as these mutations are > > > gained > > > > by the virus. Here's the link. > > > > > > > > http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/reprint/70/1/359.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/20/10, MaryChristine wrote: > > > > > > > > > > i do know that there are different strains, but really haven't > > > > encountered > > > > > this before--so anything you send to the list will be gratefully > > > > digested! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:17 PM, jbero tds.net > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, it's felv type c. You know how there are three types A and > B > > > > being > > > > > > those transmitted and C being the mutated form that primarily > > causes > > > > > > disease. Let me see if I can find a good paper. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jenny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/20/10, MaryChristine wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jeni, i have NEVER seen or heard about mutated versions of > > > > FeLV--FeCoV, > > > > > > > yes, > > > > > > > which mutates into FIP. but this is something completely new, > and > > i > > > > > would > > > > > > > like to see some backing for the statement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is significant research that implies that many truly > > positive > > > > > FeLVs > > > > > > > NEVER become symptomatic, and that they are NOT contagious--the > > > 2008 > > > > > AAFP > > > > > > > guidelines show the citations for this, and it is NOT new > > research, > > > > > just > > > > > > > ignored. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have also never seen any ACTUAL data proving the latency > > theory: > > > > with > > > > > > > cats > > > > > > > who are never retested after a negative test, there's no way > that > > > we > > > > > will > > > > > > > ever know that the cat wasn't positive all over. there has just > > not > > > > > been > > > > > > > enough research done to know how long a truly positive cat DOES > > > shed > > > > > the > > > > > > > virus. they DO have a pretty good idea of that with FeCoV, > > because > > > > it's > > > > > > so > > > > > > > common (over 100 strains, i believe). i guess i want a > > definition > > > of > > > > > > > latent: yes, a positive can go years without becoming > > symptomatic, > > > > and > > > > > if > > > > > > > that's all it means, fine. however, i've been seeing if used > for > > > cats > > > > > who > > > > > > > only test negative once > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more input, as they say! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MC > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > > > > > > > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MaryChristine > > > > > > > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue ( > > > > > > www.purebredcats.org > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > > > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > > > > > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > > > > > > > > > MaryChristine > > > > > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Bre
Re: [Felvtalk] New to the FELV+ kitty group
Here's the link for the American Association of Feline Practitioners: http://www.catvets.com/ If nothing else, this will give you a compact list of places to call with questions. The search function is pretty good:) Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Stacy Zacher To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 4:26:05 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] New to the FELV+ kitty group Hi: We are new to the group. My (approximately) 13 year old male kitty has been diagnosed with FELV via a SNAP test. I found him as a stray when he was about age 1-2 and I did have him tested then. The test came back negative and I proceeded to vaccinate him for FELV with yearly "boosters" as at the time he was a semi-outdoor still. I don't recall if my vet had me do a second test or not so I am rather surprised and shocked that he has tested positive now but I've read it can happen. We have a bloodwork re-check tomorrow and the IFA test at the vet. We've been to an internal medicine specialist for a second opinion on how we can manage this disease and keep him comfortable. This showed up because his white blood cell count has been abnormally low ever since we moved from one side our townhouse to the other (Feb 2010) and he has been very stressed out ever since the move. He was vomiting a lot in the recent past and I took him in again for testing. The vet this time tested him for the FELV, FIV etc. His attitude seemed inconsolable at times and he seemed to howl a lot and vocalize a lot as though he is having issues or pain. But he runs up and down the stairs with ease, jumps on to counters still and plays a bit but is less active than he was in January. Any advice is greatly appreciated as far as best diet (he currently eats wellness canned and assorted other canned but only seems to like fish flavors now! He eats Tasted of the Wild Dry salmon flavor as well). At the moment I've started him on Standard PRocess feline immune support supplements. The vet put him on metronidazole in case he has bacterial overgrowth in his intestines and reglan for nausea/vomiting. He seems to do well for about 4 days off reglan, then starts vomiting food again in the morning. He is eating/drinking/ urinating/ defecating okay and seems to be howling less on the meds. I am looking for advice on treatments, immunotherapies etc. - both conventional and holistic. I've heard from others that immunoregulin works as does Imulan LTCI. I'd love to hear what helps your kitties.If you know of any vets in Wisconsin in the Milwaukee county/Waukesha/ Jefferson County areas who specialize in FELV+ kitties, please let me know also. There is a great vet in Madison but that is a ways to drive for us in his state. Thanks so much for all your help. Stacy and Spanky in Wisconsin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper
Sue, I'm so sorry. I'm glad you were able to let him pass at home on his own and that the sib-kits were all there. GLOW to light his path and ease your heart. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Frank & Sue Koren To: FeLV talk Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 7:28:57 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper I am heartbroken to say that this afternoon my sweet Casper lost his battle. He was one of the most sweet tempered cats I have ever known. He never ever bit or clawed anyone in anger, not for any reason. He used to come to bed and make bread in the middle of the night right into my stomach until I got in the habit of sleeping while holding his paws gently in my hands. He loved nothing more then to be brushed with an old blue hairbrush. In the middle of the night last night I was spending what I was pretty sure was my last few hours with him brushing him with it. He was still pushing against it with the sides of his face and purring. This morning when I left for work I told him goodbye and thanked him for coming to live with me and being such a special kitty. My mother in law sat with him today and he passed around 2:30. She told me the rest of the cats in the house came and sat in a circle around him, almost like a vigil. Orlando has slept near him for the last several days and through the night. I hope now Casper is in a place where there is no more feline leukemia and he can run free and watch the birds and chipmunks all he wants. Whenever I lose one of these sweet kitties they take a piece of my heart. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] RIP Brillo and Desmond
I am so sorry - GLOW to light their path and ease your heart. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Crystal Proper To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 3:01:20 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] RIP Brillo and Desmond Both of my beautiful baby boys, Brillo and Desmond joined their brother Nibbler in heaven today. My heart is broken. They will be missed more then words can describe. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget has sent me another cat
that is absolutely marvelous! Bandit played a big role in my selection of Lilly as a new companion for Smoky - she channels him on a regular basis :) i'm very very happy for both of you! Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: LauraM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 6:25:23 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget has sent me another cat First, thank you everyone for all your kindness and support over Bridget's passing. I appreciate it so much. But she's sent me another FeLV+ friend to help! On the evening of 3/17, the day she died, I checked the adoptable positives section of the website. Lo and behold, someone in GA had posted an available kitty just the day before. I never, ever check those postings, ever, but I figured the best way to honor Bridget, Baby Girl, Frosty Paws and the rest would be to take in another needy baby. These kind people had found this little girl in their neighborhood, but couldn't keep her due to the wife's allergies. They'd been boarding her at their vet's office for 5 weeks but hadn't been able to find her a home. Anyway, they brought me the cat yesterday, and she's just wonderful...still a little nervous around my big boys, but she'll be fine. Maybe this was meant to be. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Oh Laura, I am so sorry. I highly doubt that the LTCI was a contributing
factor, but I'm not a vet. Some kitties' bodies just can't handle those drugs
and she might have had an underlying problem with her heart that contributed.
I firmly believe that you did NOT kill Bridget; you are a fabulous meowmie and
gave her love and help others wouldn't have. She slipped away peacefully,
unaware and that isn't a bad thing; sometimes we can't give our furkids a
peaceful passing.
{{{Laura
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."
- Anonymous
From: LauraM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 3:45:50 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly
under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now
she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby
Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been
the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if
anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe
made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know
whether I killed my cat.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: vaccination questions
Both of my babies are due for check-ups and I had them run estimates on titres and shots etc. I personally believe that vaccinations should be reserved for when they're needed medically. I have signed legal waivers in the past to forgo the rabies shots for my boys. But when cost is an issue, things get complicated. current prices @ my clinic: FVRCP and rabies are each $22 The titre test for panleuk runs $47.50 (venipuncture charge here is $21.24, but they're pulling blood for the CBCs etc, so it's a wash). The titre test for rabies? $130 It really really really bothers me that the medically reasonable course is over five times the cost so while i really believe that a titre before a vaccination is the way to go, i simply can't afford it right now (we're condo-shopping). and i certainly can't do what i used to and take both kits in at the same time for check-ups! Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Avia Rauscher To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 1:40:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: vaccination questions You can have titre tests done to check the level of antibody in the cat's system. I would say just forgo the vaccinations and/or titres if you are sure that the cat won't be hospitalized or boarded. Many vet hospitals and boarding facilities will not allow an animal to be admitted without proof of vaccination. While a certificate from your vet may get you past any state laws (like in NY) that require rabies vaccination, vet hospitals and boarding facilities are breeding grounds for germs and your kitty may end up exposed and unprotected. My vet pointed this out to me when I brought Horus (who has asthma) & Blackie in for their annuals and questioned annual vaccinations. Avia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations
My clinic switched to the Purevax a few years ago because they'd been getting a LOT of reactions to the 3 year shot. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: "lernermiche...@aol.com" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 12:25:29 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations PureVax makes a rabies vaccine with no adjuvant. That is what I get my cats. It's more expensive and it lasts only one year instead of 3, but is supposed to have no risk of vaccine-associated sarcoma so I think it is worth it. I only revaccinate yearly because my town has cat licensing AND I am well-known to (and disliked by) the animal control officer because I got a TNR ordinance passed and run a TNR group. So I go by the book when it comes to my town's licensing ordinance in order to avoid any problems! I personally do not think cats need rabies updates on the schedule that is required by law, especially if they are indoor cats. Challenge studies have shown even one rabies vaccination to often last 4 years (without boostering). But I follow the law in my town, and try to mitigate any negative effects by only using PureVax. PureVax also makes an adjuvant free FeLV vaccine-- that one does not even use a needle! It's an air gun of some kind. It makes a little popping noise and pushes the vaccine under the skin. When I had positives, I got it for my one negative every year, even though I kept them separated, just in case. After my last positive died I stopped getting him FeLV vaccine because he stays inside. Michelle ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lyttle Guy passed away
I'm so sorry. GLOW to light his path and ease your heart. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: James G Wilson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 4:37:03 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Lyttle Guy passed away Lyttle Guy passed away in my arms at 4:18am this morning. He had series of seizures and then gasped his last breath. He was truly loved and shall be dearly missed James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research & Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] spastic pupil syndrome
Kerry, if you check the archives, you'll find that there have been a number of kitties on list with pupils that had variable dilation. If memory serves, most of those kitties had normal or low ocular pressure (including my Ninja) and so the variations seemed to be neurological in nature. One day the left would be dilated larger than the right and the next day it'd be opposite. Or not. Sometimes there would be what is called a 'reverse D' pupil where only one side dilated and it looked like an upper case D in a mirror. With elevated ocular pressure, I would definitely have kitty seen by an ophthalmologist. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Kerry MacKenzie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 2:06:31 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] spastic pupil syndrome Dear all, I wanted to ask if anyone has any experience of "spastic pupil syndrome" in leukemia kitts and if you've heard of any treatment for it. Any info would be much appreciated. Thanks, Kerry M. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] seasons greetings!!!
http://www.dmns.org/holiday-greeting Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT:help w/post traumatic stress in cat?
Tamara, I'm forwarding this individually to Mari as I know she has experience with this. She's on the list, but I think on digest and I want to make sure she sees this. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: tamara stickler To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 10:37:33 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] OT:help w/post traumatic stress in cat? Hello all, This is off-topic, and for that I apologize, but I figured with all the cat care-giving/rescuing experience of the people on this list, perhaps someone would have an answer for me. I took in stray tabby about 3 years ago. Had him neutered and vetted. He had/has many issues including being prone to kidney crystals and infections -which I think we have under control at the moment w/ cranberry powder additive to his food. He used to be very aggressive towards other cats (something for which my other cat still hasn't completely forgiven him for) and he truly believes himself to be a dog. He has no fear at ALL of people, cats or canines, -fetches toys, heels, comes when called and will go into his crate if you just mention it...(something even my DOG REFUSES to do!). But..there is one major obstacle to completely incorporating him into the household: he has night terrors. Because of his past aggression, he's separated in his own room whenever I'm not home & at night, but I have been trying to get to the point where he can be allowed to sleep with us. Unfortunately, he has incredible nightmares where he BOLTS INTO THE AIR (we're talking sometimes 2-3 feet HIGH) from a dead sleep and FLEES until he hits something - usually a wall or piece of furniture- hard enough to wake him up. Then he sits all hunched up and blinking for a few minutes. If I go to him he immediately starts to purr and rolls over for a belly rub - only after head-butting me a few dozen times. I've had him to the vet thinking he was having painful spasms or something. All she could find were old injuries that looked like a car accident may have hit him in the hip area (all healed - he moves fine) and what appear to be 3 bebes still lodged in the back of his neck and shoulder area. She doesn't think they would be the cause of pain now...but both injuries tell something of the first year or two of his life. I've tried feline pheromones ...he still has the episodes. As much as I hate putting him in a room by himself at night, while the cat and dog and I share a bedwhen he freaks out at night- it sets off a chain reaction of the other cat going all hissy-spazzy and the dog barking and chasing one or both around the condo until he fully wakes up and calms down (I'm surprised my neighbors haven't complained yet!). (Not to mentionI've gotten kicked in the eye and face time and again as one or more of the animals flee from the shock of Mica's night terrors. Has anyone EVER experienced something like this that's on-going? Does anyone have ANY suggestions other than time? (He's been an indoor only cat for 3 years nowand while the dreams do seem to be getting lessat the current rate- he'll have to live well into his thirties until they are gone...-I'm not certain I could survive that! ;-) Thanks, Tamara, Tobias (yorkie), Coebeio (calico), Micatullyvhim (grey tabby) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Nibbler Has Gone On - Please Add To CLS
I'm so sorry, but so glad that you loved him and were able to give him a peaceful passing. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Crystal Proper To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 12:37:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Nibbler Has Gone On - Please Add To CLS Just wanted to let everyone know we had to let Nibbler go today. It was the hardest thing I have ever done. I'm not sure how I am going to get used to him not greeting me every morning and getting to say goodnight to him in front of the fireplace. Thanks everyone that has helped with my questions about him. Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] scratchy meow
sounds like heat to me - Lilly's voice was different that week - oy, and what a week, poor Smoky! They're calling for male company and it's a different type of call and voice. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Tracy McLendon To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 3:36:55 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] scratchy meow Hello! I am new here! I have a 1 1/2 year old blind FLV cat. Two days ago, she started to have an odd scratchy sounding meow. She also went into heat about the same time. She is eating and playing normally. Her meow just suddenly changed and sounds raspy, almost like a parrot. This is my first experience with a FLV cat. She is not on any type of vitamins, she is just like all the other cats, until she started with this weird meow. When she went in originally for her eye enucleation, the vet just said she would be more susceptible to infections and that she would not live long. Can someone help me? Any other signs I should look for? She seems normal otherwise but I am such a hyphochondriac for myself and my animals! I just want to know if anyone else has experienced meow changes Thanks in advance! -- Tracy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list
got it - hopefully things are quiet for everyone Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: James G Wilson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:20:40 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list Hey all, I'm just testing the list since there hasn't been any activity since Monday. I hope no news is good news for everyone here. Please let me know if you're having any problems with the list. I'm always happy to assist. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research & Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Need some help or suggestions in Wisconsin
have you contacted Angel's Wish or Dane County Friends of Ferals? http://angelswish.org/index.html http://www.daneferals.org/ Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Pam Norman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 3:55:39 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Need some help or suggestions in Wisconsin I am in Spring Green, WI, just about 30 miles NW of Madison & am trying to find a home or foster for a lovely FeLV kitty in Madison. She is currently living on a screened porch of a very nice woman who unfortunately is not only allergic but has 2 nasty dogs in the back year. We need to get a foster or home asap as the weather here is already turning cold at night. She is perfectly healthy & very friendly. Just needs a home & someone to love her. Can someone help? Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
yay!!! Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Susan Hoffman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:57:32 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno Just wanted to update everyone. Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada. Just got a voicemail from Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you would think he had always lived there. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 14, Issue 11
they should have eye exams to rule out ocular pressure problems etc, but my Ninja had weird uneven dilation issues that didn't seem to have any cause or underlying health problem, just funny eyes Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Claire Smith To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:29:33 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 14, Issue 11 I have a question - not sure how to submit it. I have 2 cats who are feline leukemia positive. From outward appearances, they look and basically act healthy. One of them has started having a dilated pupil - it is not constant but it has been occuring a lot lately. She will also start panting and breathing heavy - I have central air and keep it on all the time.The last time she did this, it was actually very cool in her room. The other one had seizures one day several months ago - that was the one and only time that occured. But several months ago, his 3rd eyelid (on both eyes) started staying out. He can still see but not too well. Is there anything I need to do or is this just part of the disease? There are no other symptoms for either one of them at this time. Claire ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed
I'm so sorry - GLOW to light his path and ease your heart. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Amy Dalgliesh To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:58:34 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed My Zman lost his fight today. He is my 6th in the past 9 months. I know that it is to be expected when you take in sickly street kids, but it doesn't help with the pain of losing any one of these wonderful creatures. . Zuckerman was a 2 week old kitten with a horrible URI when I found him. He quickly became a momma's boy, going to work with me during the day and holding paws through the carrier door at night. Once old enough to graduate from the carrier, he became quite the snuggler, curling up at my neck during the night. He loved to suckle earlobes and would launch himself off a piece of furniture onto any unsuspecting person who happened by in order to attach himself to one. I told him that he would have to stop because we couldn't have a 12 pound adult "catapulting" himself onto everyone. Guess I don't have to worry about that now, he was only 8 months old and less than 4 pounds at the end. We were holding paws when he left. It's been said before by all of us and unfortunately I know it will be said many more times, but I hate this freaking disease. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlotte to the CLS
GLOW to light her path and ease your heart... Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Laura Mostello To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 11:51:19 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlotte to the CLS Charlotte has just passed away. I came home from work, went into her room and she was lying on her side, crying and breathing heavily. I ran and let my dogs out, came back to her and held her for what turned out to be about 4 hours. She gradually slowed down, but was responding to my voice for quite a while. Eventually that stopped and I knew she was probably unconscious. She passed at the stroke of midnight, and I know it sounds crazy, but I immediately felt so calm - I can only explain it by saying that as soon as she died I physically felt her suffering end. It was so strange. I am sitting here crying as I write this even though I know it's better and she won't be in pain any more. But she'd been doing so well and eating like a pig. Just this morning she was stuffing her face with chicken. So I thought that maybe I could have her with me for just a while longer, and just maybe she'd be one who survived despite the odds. Guess I was wrong. I hate this disease. Thanks everyone for all your help. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] B. B. died - please add to the Candlelight service (do we still have one?)
B.B. was lucky to have you find him. GLOW to light his path and ease your heart Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous From: Gloria B. Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 2:16:05 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] B. B. died - please add to the Candlelight service (do we still have one?) One of my FELV kitties, B.B., died in the early morning of Dec 2, 2008, and I'd love to have him added to the Bridge list. He was a double positive (FELV+, FIV+), had been found at a local dump in the Little Rock vicinity, and taken in to our rescue. I've fostered him since October 2006, and he's been such a sweet, loving cat. But he developed a tail infection a while back, and we've been dealing with that ever since. He alway ate like a horse, till the last couple of days. He never could gain weight or pull out of the illness, he may have had other things going on, I'm not sure. B.B., who I think stands for Beautiful Boy, crossed over to the Bridge early yesterday morning, Tuesday December 2, 2008. He was a sweet boy. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone....
bless you for taking him in, you changed the world for him and that is a powerful thing - he sounds delightful:) GLOW to light his path and ease your heart... Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:37:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone It is with a very heavy heart that I tell you that I lost my Romeo today to lymphoma. I write not out of grief but to encourage all the newbies who wonder whether they can hang on with a FELV positive, whether they know enough to take care of them, whether they should mix, etc. And the resounding answer is YES YES YES. My Romeo was a throw away stray that I first met 7+ years ago when I helped someone out feeding a little colony near me. He was already an adult (3-4 years old) who would come running across the field when I’d whistle and meow the whole way so I wouldn’t miss him. He would get underfoot, get bullied by the other cats, bury everybody’s food, and just rub up against my leg for some loving. I knew someone had been unkind to him cause if I raised my hand, he’d scamper away, just out of reach, cowering. Fast forward two years and we had one of the coldest NY winters we’ve had in a long time. One weekend, we were expecting zero degree temps and a major snowstorm. Romeo was the last of the colony and I knew I had to bring him in. I even had an adoptive home ready—but he turned out to be positive and they couldn’t handle it. Soo, he stayed in my room for a few weeks, watching my every move, figuring out the TV and the vacuum cleaner weren’t that bad. Slowly, he started coming out of his crate at night when he thought I was asleep. Little baby steps—first the food dish got moved next to his crate. Then the litter box in the bathroom. And slowly, he’d come out during the day. I knew we won the battle when I peeked out over my monitor to spot him on my bed. You could see it in his face—this is niiice and from that point on, he was totally comfortable being in and around we humans. Funny thing is that he never really wanted to get out—he rarely sat at the window—the couch and the bed were always much more comfortable for him! Over these last 4 ½ years, Romeo turned into the most loving cat you’d ever want to meet. Only thing I could never do was pick him up or restrain him in any way---he was just too scared. But he’d jump up on me, lie on my chest as I was trying to get to sleep, follow me around like a puppy dog and otherwise just kept thanking all the humans he met for being safe and warm and loved. My other cats were a bit leary of him and Tucson never did take much of a liking to him—all jealousy, I’m sure. But Romeo persevered and the two of them had come to terms with each other... His final illness took him quickly. He’d never been real sick before—had some gum and teeth problems a couple of times, but that was it. Going to the vet was a major trauma for him so I’d always worked with my wonderful vet to keep those visits to a bare minimum. But today was one of those days that I knew he had to get to the vet asap. He’d been feeling poorly during the week and over the weekend, he started breathing very hard—like he couldn’t catch his breath. He’d been on antibiotics for what I thought was another gum problem but when we got to the vet, I knew it was a whole lot more. My vet sent me immediately to our local specialty hospital and they confirmed the lymphoma. He had a large mass in his chest, his lungs had filled up with fluid, and I knew that emotionally and physically, he could never withstand an aggressive course of treatment that in all likelihood would only give him a short extension of his life. So, I made that decision we all dread after I looked in his eyes and knew he was telling me it was time. I stroked him to the end and told him I loved him. And do I regret taking him in—ABSOLUTELY NOT. He gave me so many wonderful memories and he will always be in my heart. And did he regret coming inside—ABSOLUTELY NOT—he had almost 5 years of a wonderful life and I know that had he stayed out, he would have died a miserable death from the cold and hunger or an infection and he would have been alone. We can’t save them forever—but we can give them some wonderful time and we can all learn so very much about life from these little guys. Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.
Re: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone
I'm so sorry - GLOW to light his path and ease your heart. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Laura Mostello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:32:24 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone Sadly, I had to have Duncan euthanized last night. He was suffering from a URI and getting Clavamox, and the URI was clearing up, but he was still sluggish. On Sunday night he seemed disoriented, and was crying as if he was in a lot of pain. I rushed him to the emergency vet and then to my regular vet Monday morning. The vet called me at 5:30 as I was driving home from work to get Duncan's food and told me that he thought Duncan was very close to dying. Test results had showed Hemobartonella and he was fading fast. We talked about possible treatments but Dr Leathers felt that it would be best, and kindest, to put him down. He deteriorated so quickly - just a couple of days ago he was eating and walking around. Unfortunately, I assumed he just wasn't 100% because of the URI. I will not make that mistake again. He has never shown any symptoms in the year that I've had him. My other two positives, who lived with him, are fine, but I'm going to have them checked out at the vet next week. I lost my 18 year old cat last Monday so this hasn't been a very good past couple of weeks for me. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Seizures?
you wouldn't substitute the pheno w/steroids, but it all depends on the cause of the seizures. my Ninja had seizures that started out once every few weeks and ended up being 5-7 a day - I spoke with several vets and we started her on prednisone under the supposition that my positive kitty had a brain tumor (meningioma) and that controlled them beautifully - we couldn't taper the dosage down tho, as is usual w/steroids, as the seizures would return. she did great on just the pred for controlling them for about 2.5-3 mos and then we needed to add pheno to the mix - but her last 2 months were seizure free - intestinal lymphoma ended up being her end. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 5:16:29 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Seizures? Hi, I don't think you could substitute steroids for phenobarbital as steroids don't have a sedating effect, more of an anti-inflammatory effect. I know valium is sometimes prescribed in addition to phenobarbital for seizures. We were so fortunate to find a great veterinary neurologist for our cat. The first two vets we went to said to euthanize the cat but I refused to and I searched out the neurologist and he acted like the seizures weren't such a huge deal. I love him! Please let us know what you find out when you get the lab results. You may actually have a physically healthy cat that just needs time to recover from psychological distress. Prozac may be helpful to him. Michele ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design
James and Belinda: you rock! :) Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: James G Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:12:54 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design Hey all, I've finally gotten around to updating our FeLV website (with Belinda's help). You can check it out at: http://www.felineleukemia.org I hope that it is easier to read and loads a bit faster. If anyone wishes to help update the content of the site, please let me and/or Belinda know privately. Reluctantly, I've added a donations page to the site to help offset my out-of-pocket costs for maintaining the site. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research & Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: I must be nuts!
I'm so happy for you two! We never know how long our little friends are going to be with us, so I don't think you're nuts. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Sue Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: FeLV Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:06:59 AM Subject: I must be nuts! Hi Everyone! Saturday I went to a local cat rescue home and adopted a beautiful 16lb. flame point siamese boy. He is 10 years old and FeLV+. I have been missing my cuddler, Tucker, so much that I just wanted another loveable lap cat kitty. There were over 200 cats in that home but when I picked up Orlando it was all over. He just snuggled right in. His previous owner passed away in January. She had a lot of acreage, a couple of barns and a shop where she made signs. She had 17 cats who roamed the place and were never let inside or given vet care. When she passed away her husband brought all the cats to this rescue and several were FeLV+. Ironically, that was about the time Buzz was diagnosed and I was still trying to find a home for him. When I called this rescue they told me that they had just taken in several positives and did not have room. If someone had told me then that I would be taking one of the positives I never would have believed them. Anyway, Orlando is a very special sweetheart of a cat. He is even getting along fairly well with the other 5. Yesterday I had him to the vets and they found that he had once had a broken leg that was never taken care of and healed wrong. (I knew his back right leg was stiff). Time will tell if that is something to take care of now or not. They also re-confirmed the FeLV+. Anyway I am getting way too long winded. Thanks for listening to me ramble, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: looking for advice re kitty prozac
was the foaming during or immediately after pilling? gelcaps and a pill gun could fix that - I don't know about the other forms ssri's come in (fluoxetine is an ssri) e.g. pill, capsule, injection etc Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 4:40:25 PM Subject: looking for advice re kitty prozac Dear all Has anyone ever used a kitty "Prozac" such as fluoxetine? One of my co-workers whose cat has always been a sprayer--and she's had him for YEARS, kudos to her---was thrilled when 1/2 tab fluoxetine daily fixed the behavior almost immediately. Unfortunately he began foaming at the mouth at the same time, so she stopped using it after a few days. Does anyone have any experience in using an alternative "prozac" that worked for spraying without causing foaming or other adverse side-effects. She says she's going to the vet to ask about a different one after she returns from vacation, and I thought I'd try picking your brains before she went. I think it's wonderful that--unlike so many people--she's committed to her cat despite his spraying. I have a sprayer too, but he's feral, so there's nothing I can use (he's not into any sort of treat on a regular basis, and he turned his nose up at Pillpockets) apart from a dividing line between him and the cause of his behavior, my other cats. He has his own loyal buddy, a female, Momcat, so he's pretty content on the whole, I think. Anyway, thanks for any other "prozac" ideas! Kerry _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: my poor snowy
my vets check paws - they have a different check sheet for exams as they only do cats Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 8:16:26 PM Subject: Re: my poor snowy Poor little Snowy. Don't worry she'll forgive you by tomorrow. You are right, getting her little paw healed up is far more important than the spaying. It is in a cat's genes to not show pain or illness. Here is a link to a Physical Exam Check List. http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=292&S=2 Notice they don't have a section for legs/paws. I wonder how many vets ever even look at a kitty's paws. Give her a special treat tonight. Sharyl Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well I won't be taking Snowy in for spaying this coming week. I went to clip her nails tonight and noticed that there was a big lump on her right paw. When I touched it she meowed so I got her into the emergency vet. They told me I did nothing wrong that this had happened to her over a very long period of time. Her nail had grown into her skin, along with hair and they had to put her under and remove it. It had grown far into her pad and couldn't be removed easily. I don't get this. She had seen 2 vets prior to our getting her and no one noticed this. Now the poor little thing has to be on antibiotics (Clindamycin) and wear one of those horrible hood things so she won't lick her paw. She had a piece taken out of it and cauterized. I am so sorry for what this poor little dear has been through in her short life. I just hope all this trauma doesn't cause her herpes virus to resurface. The first thing the vet did when we got her there was to squirt eye wash into her eyes and she got all upset. I kind of yelled at him for doing that and asked why. He said she looks like she has allergies and I said "she's a persian their eyes tear". Fortunately there was a very knowledgeable technician present who seemed to know a lot more than this guy did. Lynne Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: OT - CLS addition....... my Bandit
my heart is broken, so is my husband's - I don't know what I'm going to do w/o my little shadow. This is the first time my husband has lost a pet - you didn't have animals in the house where he's from, so my boys were the first time he'd lived with and loved kitties. I miss my boy so much - we were particularly close - he was fine with anything as long as Momma was close. But he was so sick and had lost so much weight and was clearly in pain, even though I'd been giving him buprenex. He was doing that curl-up-in-comfy-sleep-pos'ns, but he'd adjust and readjust every couple of minutes and his eyes never closed - he was simply waiting. He passed very quickly, the vet had hardly put away the needle and gotten out her stethoscope and he was gone. You know that they're going to go first (most likely) but you never think that time will ever actually arrive... Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 7, 2008 5:05:49 PM Subject: RE: OT - CLS addition... my Bandit Barb, I'm so sorry. Even though you're putting an awful brave face on it, I know how much you must be hurting. I feel like Bandit's part of my extended family, he's been around and popping up in your emails for such a long time. Hope his mom and Smoky are doing ok. Big hugs and lots of love to you. Kerryxx From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 2:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT - CLS addition... my Bandit Bandit and his brother Smoky were the 2 kits I adopted after my FeLV+ kitty Ninja went to the Bridge. Bandit went to the Bridge on Wednesday March 5th, with his Momma and brother sitting with him. He was only 9.5 yrs old... but he's not hurting anymore and I'm sure he and Ninja and Bart will get together and scheme to find someone to send to me. Belinda, Bandit was FeLV- Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
OT - CLS addition....... my Bandit
Bandit and his brother Smoky were the 2 kits I adopted after my FeLV+ kitty Ninja went to the Bridge. Bandit went to the Bridge on Wednesday March 5th, with his Momma and brother sitting with him. He was only 9.5 yrs old... but he's not hurting anymore and I'm sure he and Ninja and Bart will get together and scheme to find someone to send to me. Belinda, Bandit was FeLV- Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous
OT - Candle Service addition
Belinda, could you please add Bart (FeLV-)? He was the best friend for over 17 years of my best friend Joe Hoopman in Minneapolis. Their final vet appointment was this afternoon - we should all be so lucky to have our furkids live long enough that their bodies just wear out. GLOW to light Bart's path and ease Joe's heart Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous
Re: unsubscribing info for Unusually Unique
what they said:) Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 4:08:27 PM Subject: Re: unsubscribing info for Unusually Unique It is a wonderful group. On Dec 7, 2007 3:17 PM, Stray Cat Alliance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So true! This group has helped me immensely and I appreciate it so very much. Anita From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: unsubscribing info for Unusually Unique Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 15:56:38 -0500 Well, I wish you wouldn't leave Unusually Unique. We've already lost SO many people. I've stuck it out and I just ignore the fights that go on on this site because I still believe in "the greater good"- that this list serve can provide good and necessary info, despite the recent animosity. -Caroline Subject: unsubscribing info for Unusually Unique Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:44:34 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi, see below instructions re unsubscribing etc. (These are sent on the 1st of every month, in case you still have your email -- if you do, you'll be able to click directly to unsubscribe. Otherwise there are contact addresses given below) Asking the list doesn't work because listmembers can't do it for you (otherwise I daresay a few folks would be bouncing back and forth interminably) and as far as I know it's not moderated continuously. At any rate, the info below should do the trick. Kerry M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:01 AM Subject: felineleukemia.org mailing list memberships reminder This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your felineleukemia.org mailing list memberships. It includes your subscription info and how to use it to change it or unsubscribe from a list. You can visit the URLs to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. In addition to the URL interfaces, you can also use email to make such changes. For more info, send a message to the '-request' address of the list (for example, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) containing just the word 'help' in the message body, and an email message will be sent to you with instructions. If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Unusually Unique Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 12:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: detailed video of seizure -- for Michael How do I unsubscribe from this Merry-Go-Round? I'm sick of reading about you people slapping at each other. _ Effective September 1, 2007, we have changed our name to Mayer Brown LLP. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer Brown LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer Brown LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. Power up! You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the i'm Initiative now. Join in! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart
Re: Vet Recommendation
here's another thought - look here for vets closer to you - this is the link to the American Association of Feline Practitioners http://www.aafponline.org/ Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message ---- From: Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 2, 2007 4:25:24 PM Subject: Re: Vet Recommendation I use the Cat Care Clinic here in Madison and LOVE THEM. They are fabulous. One of the vets has had FeLV+ kits of her own (I don't know if she does right now) and they are all very open to patient parents' bringing in information about potential treatments etc. here's their website and #/email http://catcareclinic.net/ 608-238-2287 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Dawn Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:56:26 AM Subject: Vet Recommendation I was wondering if anyone lived in the Far Northern Chicago area or Southern Wisconsin area (I live on the border of IL & WI) that knows of a vet that is familiar and treats FeLV. I found a holisitc vet who I am happy with but would like a traditional vet. My current one doesn't deal much with FeLV. I've spoken to a few others and have not been overly comfortable with them. Referrals are always best I feel. Thanks Dawn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Vet Recommendation
I use the Cat Care Clinic here in Madison and LOVE THEM. They are fabulous. One of the vets has had FeLV+ kits of her own (I don't know if she does right now) and they are all very open to patient parents' bringing in information about potential treatments etc. here's their website and #/email http://catcareclinic.net/ 608-238-2287 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Dawn Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:56:26 AM Subject: Vet Recommendation I was wondering if anyone lived in the Far Northern Chicago area or Southern Wisconsin area (I live on the border of IL & WI) that knows of a vet that is familiar and treats FeLV. I found a holisitc vet who I am happy with but would like a traditional vet. My current one doesn't deal much with FeLV. I've spoken to a few others and have not been overly comfortable with them. Referrals are always best I feel. Thanks Dawn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: ot-cisapride?
cisapride? hmm. it's been taken off the U.S. market for people... http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/cisap.htm I think lactulose is worth trying - one brand is Enulose - ask about it (firmly) are you using digestive enzymes? I sprinkle prozyme on their crunchies and if I run out, or hubby forgets, Bandit gets diarrhea - icky... metamucil sprinkled on his food couldn't hurt either Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 4:11:59 AM Subject: ot-cisapride? My cat Bob is still having problems with constipation. He is still currently negative for felv (just retested him last week). He was positive as a kitten in 1992ish. He then threw the virus, and has lived with 2 positives all his life. He is the one who has had the oxcylate crystals. As some of you remember my vet quit to work on csi cases with aspca, etc Bob was straining to urinate and I took him to the new vet at the clinic who gave him fluids and put him on baytril. After 2 days he seemed worse, and was also constipated. I called another vet and she said that my 'new vet' had not done a culture, and she thought Bob's system was messed up by the Baytril. She did a culture. It was negative. And she took him off the antibiotic. She gave him fluids, x-rayed for stones (none), no crystals, put him on lactulose. Well we finally ended up having to give him an enema. She has found the start of kidney disease, and has me giving him 150 mL of fluids each week. The constipation is still there! She had me buy something compounded called cisapride to help his GI system. He won't take it and foams at the mouth and spits it out when he does. I have discontinued it. Has anyone ever used this before? Same results? I have changed him to all wet food (royal canin s/o). I am going to start putting pumpkin in it. Any further suggestions tonya
Re: Lovey is gone
Janine, I am so so sorry about Lovey and Perry. GLOW to light their paths and ease your heart. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Brenda Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 11:51:52 AM Subject: Lovey is gone Hello All, Thank you for your help the other day. Lovey was in liver and kidney failure. His liver was 10 times smaller than normal and my vet and I both feel it was genetic. He was suffering so I didn't hesitate in letting him go. He was a beautiful, wonderful, friend with a personality like no other cat I have ever met. I will miss him for a long time. It was a tough week, I lost my mom's cat Perry last thursday. He started failing and he went really fast. We don't know what was wrong with him, but the vet was 100% sure there were multiple problems. Perry was a very loving sweet boy, he is also missed. So, that was two friends gone in one week. They were both feline leukemia positive. Belinda, could you add them to the list. Thank you, Janine Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433
Re: Kaylee is gone
Chris, I am so sorry. GLOW to light Kaylee's path and ease your heart. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Chris Behnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:14:22 PM Subject: Kaylee is gone I just came back from the vets after saying goodbye to my girl. The tumor had eaten away too much at her eye and nose area that there was no hope. I could have brought her home but it would only have been a few days and she wouldn’t have felt good. So I went to the vets and said my goodbyes while she was still sedated and held her while I had to let go. Thank you everyone for you support. Chris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.5/988 - Release Date: 9/4/2007 9:14 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.15/1002 - Release Date: 9/11/2007 5:46 PM Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html
Re: Goodbye, Olive...
Megan, I'm so sorry. She's beautiful and your love for her has come through all of your message loud and clear. GLOW to light her path and ease your heart. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Megan Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 10:56:23 PM Subject: Goodbye, Olive... Unfortunately, I had to resort to PTS. It was probably the toughest decision of my life--or at least, the second toughest, the first being to decide to let Olive go in the first place. I spent most of the day yesterday and today with her, and it was miserable watching her fade away. My roommate and I sat by her for hours today. I kept thinking she was about to go, that she'd take one last looking like she'd already passed. At one point she looked like she was really gone, aside from the very slight rising of her chest, and then she rolled over and stretched out, almost as if she were alright... it was heartbreaking. This morning I had thought about trying to save her, but in my heart I feel that it would have done more harm than good. Perhaps there was a slight chance I truly could have saved her and reversed the anemia--but I have a feeling it wouldn't have worked out that way, and I didn't want to put Olive through more suffering. She was too young to succumb to this, but if I had tried to keep her alive, I feel that it would've been out of my own selfish reasons. I will miss her so much, but I am glad that she went out easy. I am sorry that I could not give her a longer life, but at least the one she had was a great one. She was one of the best kitties ever. The vet called me this afternoon asking for an update, and I told him of my decision, but that I still didn't know which way to go about it. He told me he'd be at the clinic for about 20 more minutes, so I told him I might call back. After discussing it with my roommate and boyfriend, I called back. It was terrible. But at least Olive got to enjoy a last meal of tuna before parting this world. She'd not eaten in a while, and I was happy to see her gobble up quite a bit of it. Here are some photos of Olive, if you're interested: http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive2.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/babyolive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/kittens.JPG (Juniper on left, Kudzu on right) She was not very photogenic, so I don't have many good photos of her... Thank you guys for all of your help. I did not mean to come off as ungrateful in one of my previous emails. I was in so much pain, and so confused. I'm feeling better now, because I know I did the right thing, as awful as it was. I wish you and all your kitties good luck. I may eventually leave this list, as I should hopefully no longer have use of it for some time being... But I'll stay on for a bit. Thank you, everyone, so much. -Megan Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: OT: deer hunters: Greater heart attack risk
first, I agree that canned hunts are absolutely wrong; besides, where's the "sport" in catching something inside a fence? second, most deer hunters are NOT "fat cats". In a lot of really rural areas, the poverty is such that there are many many families who depend on hunting to feed their families through the winter. (Vegetarianism isn't the answer for everybody; it's a choice.) These people are working full time and then some to simply keep a roof over their heads. Gardening is helpful, but not enough. third, we have to face the unpleasant reality that we have forced overpopulation issues by replacing habitat with farmland and highways and killing off their historical natural preditors (wolves, coyotes etc). The farms are regular sources of food and the deer population has adjusted itself accordingly with hunting and highways as part of their natural chain. Do you honestly think it is better for deer to starve slowly in the winter, damaging farmer's crops, than to die quickly? I don't know any hunters who are happy about wounding an animal w/o killing it and they do their best to be good shots. I know from personal experience that there are nasty people in any kind of category you choose to divide them into, but I believe, also from personal experience, that the vast majority aren't nasty. This said, I am not going to enter into a debate. I've lived around hunters all my life and have an actual conservation ecologist in the family and the above is sincerely believed by me. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: glenda Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 9:50:03 AM Subject: Re: OT: deer hunters: Greater heart attack risk My take on this is most guys who hunt are fat cats who eat a lot of meat and can afford to take hunting trips... This means, they often hold high end jobs, where they sit at a desk all day. "Hunting" restores that need in them to feel like real men. For starters, these out of shape creeps, need to become VEGETARIANS and take it from there. People who kill animals for sport have no soul. The types that really are the most disgusting are the "hunters" that "hunt" for huge fees, in these fenced in parks, where the animals are often retired zoo animals or old and sick wildlife. Texas is full of these places. Too bad the wildlife can't be armed with all the modern weapons with scopes and lasers and things could be reversed.How would these"hunters" like seeing their mom or children murdered before their very eyes? Maybe "hunting" needs to be replaced by "hiking" and people need to appreciate looking at our beautiful wildlife enjoying their lives and feeling happy and secure in our beautiful places? Glenda --- Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Found this very interesting. Of course, I wonder if > it has anything to do with your inner spirit knowing > that it is not right to harm these beautiful animals > and this is punishment for their ignorance. > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070817/hl_nm/deer_risk_dc > > > Susan J. DuBose >^..^< > www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com > www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org > www.shadowcats.net > "As Cleopatra lay > in state, >Faithful Bast at > her side did wait, >Purring welcomes > of soft applause, >Ever guarding > with sharpened claws." > Trajan > Tennent > > > > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
Re: OT: rescue remedy
I think I actually put the drop in her mouth, I honestly can't remember exactly. But topically would be better because of the alcohol base. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 3:40:22 PM Subject: RE: OT: rescue remedy Thanks Barbre topicallydid you rub on Ninja's ear? Maybe I should start applying a drop neat to Tiger every night. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 3:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: rescue remedy well, I always used it topically, neat. worked on me at the time and I gave Ninja one drop about a half hour before we left for the vet and one more drop just before and she was just relaxed. the vet was very curious about it because Ninja was clearly not happy to be there, but her body was quite relaxed (just a kinda cranky look on her face). when the boys were younger and I was trying to adjust Bandit's fabric chewing behavior I tried it on them both - temple/ear - no joy I haven't tried it on them recently but the chewing seems to be under control and I've used feliway since Smoky had his cystitis issues. altho - when he kisses my fingers, he has recently started to nibble too:P Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 2:56:25 PM Subject: RE: OT: rescue remedy Barb, do you dilute or give neat?...What change of behavior did you see in Ninja? (Maybe I'm expecting too much~! After several months of putting 4 drops in each of their water bowls, morn and night, for several months now I can't discern any change of behavior in any of my 5 cats (ferals are pretty well still as feral as ever; and my highly-strung cat is still as highly strung as ever (I've just started him back on his chlamypramine again). I'm thinking of giving it up & finding a better use for the $$. ) Kerry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 2:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: rescue remedy Rescue Remedy is like all other medicines and herbal treatments, it works well for some people and it doesn't work at all for others. RR worked on my sweet Ninja but I could pour the whole bottle down Bandit's throat w/no reaction. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Melissa Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 1:06:12 PM Subject: OT: rescue remedy So, I was really excited to get some rescue remedy and try it out on the kitties to see how amazingly it worked—no luck! Am I doing something wrong? I bought the regular rescue remedy in the dropper form and the rescue sleep in the spray. I was hoping to use it at night or the early morning hours when things get out of control at our house. Mainly it’s just two of our cats who wrestle and fight (play fight) constantly—non stop! It’s loud (even though they don’t meow), but they’re running into things, stampeding through the hallway, scratching furniture as they vault over it, mauling each other, etc. They look like one gray ball rolling around frantically. When we’re awake during the day, it’s all very amusing, and I always break up the fights when they get too serious. Those two hearts get to beating so fast! One is not picking on the other—both take turns instigating these fights. Anyway, I thought maybe the rescue remedy would calm them down during these situations when we’re trying to sleep and they’re playing “rodeo.” I squirted the rescue sleep in one cat’s mouth. Nothing. I added it to their water at bed time. No luck. I gave them a drop of the regular rescue remedy in their mouths. Nada. The circus continued at 4 a.m. without lessening. Anybody else have zero results with this? Does it only work with stressed out cats and not rambunctious ones? Maybe we should be using it on ourselves instead! J Melissa Lind Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice express
Re: OT: rescue remedy
well, I always used it topically, neat. worked on me at the time and I gave Ninja one drop about a half hour before we left for the vet and one more drop just before and she was just relaxed. the vet was very curious about it because Ninja was clearly not happy to be there, but her body was quite relaxed (just a kinda cranky look on her face). when the boys were younger and I was trying to adjust Bandit's fabric chewing behavior I tried it on them both - temple/ear - no joy I haven't tried it on them recently but the chewing seems to be under control and I've used feliway since Smoky had his cystitis issues. altho - when he kisses my fingers, he has recently started to nibble too:P Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 2:56:25 PM Subject: RE: OT: rescue remedy Barb, do you dilute or give neat?...What change of behavior did you see in Ninja? (Maybe I'm expecting too much~! After several months of putting 4 drops in each of their water bowls, morn and night, for several months now I can't discern any change of behavior in any of my 5 cats (ferals are pretty well still as feral as ever; and my highly-strung cat is still as highly strung as ever (I've just started him back on his chlamypramine again). I'm thinking of giving it up & finding a better use for the $$. ) Kerry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 2:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: rescue remedy Rescue Remedy is like all other medicines and herbal treatments, it works well for some people and it doesn't work at all for others. RR worked on my sweet Ninja but I could pour the whole bottle down Bandit's throat w/no reaction. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Melissa Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 1:06:12 PM Subject: OT: rescue remedy So, I was really excited to get some rescue remedy and try it out on the kitties to see how amazingly it worked—no luck! Am I doing something wrong? I bought the regular rescue remedy in the dropper form and the rescue sleep in the spray. I was hoping to use it at night or the early morning hours when things get out of control at our house. Mainly it’s just two of our cats who wrestle and fight (play fight) constantly—non stop! It’s loud (even though they don’t meow), but they’re running into things, stampeding through the hallway, scratching furniture as they vault over it, mauling each other, etc. They look like one gray ball rolling around frantically. When we’re awake during the day, it’s all very amusing, and I always break up the fights when they get too serious. Those two hearts get to beating so fast! One is not picking on the other—both take turns instigating these fights. Anyway, I thought maybe the rescue remedy would calm them down during these situations when we’re trying to sleep and they’re playing “rodeo.” I squirted the rescue sleep in one cat’s mouth. Nothing. I added it to their water at bed time. No luck. I gave them a drop of the regular rescue remedy in their mouths. Nada. The circus continued at 4 a.m. without lessening. Anybody else have zero results with this? Does it only work with stressed out cats and not rambunctious ones? Maybe we should be using it on ourselves instead! J Melissa Lind Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this em
Re: OT: rescue remedy
Rescue Remedy is like all other medicines and herbal treatments, it works well for some people and it doesn't work at all for others. RR worked on my sweet Ninja but I could pour the whole bottle down Bandit's throat w/no reaction. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Melissa Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 1:06:12 PM Subject: OT: rescue remedy So, I was really excited to get some rescue remedy and try it out on the kitties to see how amazingly it worked—no luck! Am I doing something wrong? I bought the regular rescue remedy in the dropper form and the rescue sleep in the spray. I was hoping to use it at night or the early morning hours when things get out of control at our house. Mainly it’s just two of our cats who wrestle and fight (play fight) constantly—non stop! It’s loud (even though they don’t meow), but they’re running into things, stampeding through the hallway, scratching furniture as they vault over it, mauling each other, etc. They look like one gray ball rolling around frantically. When we’re awake during the day, it’s all very amusing, and I always break up the fights when they get too serious. Those two hearts get to beating so fast! One is not picking on the other—both take turns instigating these fights. Anyway, I thought maybe the rescue remedy would calm them down during these situations when we’re trying to sleep and they’re playing “rodeo.” I squirted the rescue sleep in one cat’s mouth. Nothing. I added it to their water at bed time. No luck. I gave them a drop of the regular rescue remedy in their mouths. Nada. The circus continued at 4 a.m. without lessening. Anybody else have zero results with this? Does it only work with stressed out cats and not rambunctious ones? Maybe we should be using it on ourselves instead! J Melissa Lind Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
Re: Wallace with the angels now
I'm so sorry. GLOW to light his path and ease your heart. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Jean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:34:45 PM Subject: Wallace with the angels now Greetings, folks. I'd like to thank everybody for the support and suggestions through my Wallace's brief-but-terminal illness. I'm sorry to report that he left this world on July 4 at 6:40PM, in my arms. My LJ post is here: http://lyonessnyc.livejournal.com/68839.html and a portrait I'd taken last year is here: http://lyonessnyc.livejournal.com/69444.html I love digital photography, and it's made great portraits of my kitties possible. If you try, make sure you have a macro function (it's usually the little flower on a button) so you get their little faces in focus. This is a wonderful group of people, and I'm grateful for all the help and support I got. I joined because I was trying to help a FeLeuk cat (not mine) find a home, and one of you wonderful people took Aries in and from all reports, he's happy and healthy. I salute the good work you all do, caring for these kitties. Again, thanks. -Jean Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
Re: Suzie crossed the bridge
Oh Kelley, I am so sorry. GLOW to light her path and ease your heart. a thought: you should try some RR on yourself too - can't hurt and it might help relax the vibes you're putting off. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:37:59 AM Subject: Suzie crossed the bridge She was a sweet girl who liked to sit in laps, but didn't like other cats much. She was positive for FIP. Dr Samon euthanized her this morning. I wish I had been there, but they said she was comatose.. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
Re: Kisa is gone :(
Oh Cassandra, I'm so sorry.. GLOW to light her path and ease your heart Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: C & J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:50:38 PM Subject: Kisa is gone :( Kisa passed away this morning while I was at work, exactly one month after Koda. My heart is broken, especially since I wasn't there with her at the end. I had prayed and hoped so much that she would continue to improve after she started eating again a week and a half ago. I suppose it was just too much for her to overcome. The anemia never really did improve much. Though her breathing was better, her skin was so pale. The last few days, her appetite faltered again, and she was getting weaker. I didn't think today would be the day she died, though i'm relieved she didn't have to go on suffering much longer. I don't think she was in pain, and I sincerely hope she wasn't in pain at the end. It was just so hard to see her so weak when she was as active and happy as a kitten 3 weeks ago. Kisa is going to be missed more than words can say. She never quite saw her 3rd birthday, but the time she spent with us will never be forgotten. She was special in so many ways, I wouldn't even know where to start to list them all. Fearless, loving, gentle, playful, curious, and sweet are just a few of the words that describe her. She's been sleeping on my pillow the last few nights, and i'm going to miss her warmth so much. If it ever stops raining, she will be buried next to Koda tonight. I made a rock garden full of flowers on top of Koda's grave. Now Kisa will join her there. Cassandra Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
Re: Plastic Bag Kitties
Bandit, my problem child, likes the sound of plastic, and newspaper etc. He's the fabric chewer (http://www.meankitty.com/Gallery1/bandit2.htm) and for fun, he LOVES shredding corrugated cardboard. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 11:58:40 PM Subject: Plastic Bag Kitties My adorable tuxedo Billi Bi loves those plastic bags from the grocery or the pharmacy. He tries to cram all eight pounds of his lanky self into them. Billi Bi is part Siamese and has the voice to prove it! Also, years ago I read that cats adored those thin brown tissue dress patterns. They could eat them (yum, yum). Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 12, 2007, at 12:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I have a Siamese ever since he was a baby (6 weeks old rescue) he has a fetish for plastic. Especially the plastic bags from the grocery stores it doesn't matter which store it's from. He will lick it or love it. He has been tested and there is nothing medically wrong with him. He is almost 5 years old. Anyone have a kitty that does this? Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://www.petloss.com/ See what's free at AOL.com. Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
Re: Charlie Brown - Long
Oh Sheila, my heart goes out to you both. GLOW and hugs to you and Charlie Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 8:02:11 AM Subject: Charlie Brown - Long My Charlie Brown is leaving me. This wonderful old man has been with me for fifteen years. I've never had a sweeter or smarter cat in my life. He was diagnosed with felv four years ago. The doctor said he was very sick and he wouldn't make it another week and wanted to put him down, He wouldn't even give me antibiotics to try and help his respiratory infection. I brought him home gave him amoxi drops I had from another kitties uri bout, food and water and round the clock love and care. He started to improve right away and had been healthy and happy for four more years. Two days ago I woke to find him unable to walk. I thought he wouldn't make it through the morning, but he is still here. I know in my heart that he does not want to be put down in a doctors office he is fighting so hard to stay, as sick as he is he still tries to crawl to food plate. He doesn't want me to syringe feed him, he wants me to hold him over his plate so he can eat own his own. He is the toughest little guy I have ever known and I am so grateful for the last four years we have had together. Please pray for us both. Sheila See what's free at AOL.com. Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091
Re: Prednisone - Thank You
Bless you Teresa, for being you:) Prednisone can be very effective with helping a number of things, you simply have to be aware of its effect on the immune system with long term use and weigh the benefits. With my Ninja, it controlled her seizures (believed to be caused by a meningioma) quite well for about 3 months when we had to add phenobarbital to the mix. She was seizure-free for her last 2 months:) Your crew is very lucky to have you as a caretaker. I've spoken about this with other list members (and my therapist) about how there seems to be an inverse relationship between wealth and compassion. There are always exceptions to any rule, but I have run into this one an awful lot since I've been on the fringes of rescue and involved with this list. Keep being who you are and doing what you do; you ARE making a difference. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Teresa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 5:48:39 AM Subject: Prednisone - Thank You What a gratifying thing to get such caring and educational replies from you folks about my Timmy. I guess we get so used to bearing the burden on our own shoulders that we forget there are kindred souls out there doing the same thing. Well I am familiar with pred and its evils, I am unfortunately on it because of rheumatoid arthritis for which I refuse to take the going drugs, which are linked to lymphoma and blindness, both of which my father had, so my risk is increased right there. But I sure need SOMETHING. Plus, I have osteoporosis so I definitely should not take pred. So I take Miacalcin for that. The options are not very attractive in this business of getting old and sick! As for my vet, he did say something to the effect that pred can be and is used in felv cats to suppress some of the symptoms and assist in managing it, not that it impacts the disease and of course with the understanding of its undermining the immune system. My previous vets before I moved also used pred for various things and actually, I do, too, with my large population of all sorts of not only conditions but personalities. I will use it briefly for a cat who is so miserable it won't eat, can't smell food, can't breathe because of nasal discharge, etc. Usually it will get them eating pronto and get them over that hump without force feeding. I started this with the previous vets who would spike their initial shot of antibiotics in the office, for such things as severe URI's and urinary problems. It can get them peeing without being catheterized quite frequently. So this is the type of usage I use it for. I also have a cat who is pretty blind, who has seizures and I give it to him during spells when he's having more seizures. I have a couple cats who have severe stomatitis that nothing has worked for, so I use steroids for them to try to manage it. I know it sounds like I use it a lot but it's really not that much per cat and it's only after I and the vet have tried other things first. I try to keep it to "surge" type treatments and wean them off it asap. But I find it very valuable for sick cats. We have also used it for various cancers we have dealt with. Right now I have one who has a very ugly, nasty, runny tumor in his ear that has been removed once but came right back, and I don't think he could survive without his steroids, that thing gets out of control without them. We are looking for a specialist to operate again. The tumor is benign. In Timmy's current situation, he just got the upper respiratory that is still going around my brood but actually, he's been snotty in the nose since I got him some months ago, but it wasn't severe. I treated with clavamox at first and that was good except for the couple deep bites and all the scratches I got giving it to him, but it came right back and since it didn't seem to be bothering him and he wasn't sneezing it around, he was eating and acting very well, I figured I'd save the antibiotics for down the road when I figured we'd need them more. Actually I treated a couple times, once with baytril., but no steroids till this time. This time he got real sick with it as did my negatives who got it, some did die very quickly from it. We don't know what it is except it's viral. I've had a horrible winter with it, the worst of my life as far as sick cats. It's been a nightmare. But Timmy stopped eating suddenly and nothing tempted him, I tried all my tricks, salmon, etc etc, I have a cupboardfull. I got him on baytril immediately and then some dex and did get an immediate response from that in the eating department and he's been eating well ever since. He's been on it several days and today I am going to look very closely at starting the t
Re: Rabies wavier
I missed the beginning of this - but my vet was completely fine with not giving the boys their 3 yr rabies shot as they never go outside AND they have an in-house waiver that parents have to sign when they choose not to give the rabies vacc for whatever reason. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2007 4:14:54 PM Subject: Re: Rabies wavier It varies from state to state and county to county. I'm in northern California. Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm in so cal and I've also been told that a written wavier from your vet is usually all that is required for exemption. Rabies shots are otherwise mandatory in my county. They won't even allow you the privilege of licensing an animal without proof of vaccination, or a waiver. Now, getting a vet to write that waiver has been another story. Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: > I posted the link to what as far as I can tell is the full body of the > law. > > It says nothing about exceptions for medical conditions. If you can > find something please let me know. Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
follow-up point! thanks belinda! Re: an important reminder - sorry, kinda long:)
My sincerest apologies my dear friends!!! I keep forgetting that not everyone is as lucky as I am. I am incredibly spoiled by the vets I have and their dedication to continuing education and openness to the information I’ve given them from the list. I was speaking from the ideal in my head that all vets are like mine and that vets, having the lengthy education they have, are (supposed to be) equipped to evaluate different therapies and treatments and studies and then be able to make an educated, informed decision WITH the owner as to treatment. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: "Moermond, Barb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:32:12 PM Subject: an important reminder - sorry, kinda long:) Hey gang, I've noticed some potentially disturbing trends in how information is being presented to the list as a whole; both with various treatments and external resources. I think that the first thing we need to remember is that we are here to help each other and share experiences with the possibility of our past experiences providing more information for a new FeLV+ parent to have in their decision-making arsenal. With the high emotions that come with the territory, sometimes the words that appear on the screen aren't read with the spirit they were written - we're all human and should try not to be condemning of a person dealing with these difficult issues who makes decisions that WE, in all our vast knowledge and skill, would NOT have made. Ultimately, we have to remember that it is each of us individually who has responsibility for his/her own furkid - we're not raising horses (camels!) by committee here ya know. The asking for additional information (experience etc) and advice is NOT a request for the list to make the decision (not that every/anyone posts that way as a rule, but you know what I mean)!! I think that the most important thing this list has done over the years is create this amazing e-family. My Ninja passed in 1998 and my boys are negative and I am still here because I love you guys! AND to share if anything Ninja and I lived through could help someone else. We need to SAY that "X is what we tried and it worked for us" as opposed to saying "X WORKS!" We all know that every kit is different and what works for one won't for another and, as with mixing, it has to work for the whole family. For those of us who have dealt with FeLV in the past or have been living with it for a time, we may forget how terrifying the diagnosis can be and how poorly we were initially filtering information. If it isn't said in as many words, personal opinion and experience can be read as FACT and that's not fair to the newbies. Especially considering that WE ARE NOT VETERINARIANS!!! I remember when I first found out Ninja's positive status and I was DEVASTATED. But I found this list. I found a vet whose own cat was positive. I did a TON of research, but not everybody thinks to do that or can filter through the panic. Because we have experience, we can let newbies know, "hey, this is a possible treatment" "oh, you live in X, I've heard great things about this clinic there" etc. But we should also remind everyone (especially new people) that they need to do their own research outside this list and figure out what makes the most sense to them - regardless of what everyone's OPINIONS on here are. Many topics come up that have been covered in great detail in the archives!! Searching the archives for additional information on any number of topics related to our FeLV+ kits should be one of the first things we do - newbies and oldies both. There is a wealth of experience and information available through this group and its members. Also, knowing what an amazing medium of communication the internet is, we have to be particularly careful in what we are saying about external resources, be they shelters or hospitals or clinics or rescue organizations or specific vets etc etc. Negative comments especially need to be framed in the "this is MY experience with WXY" as opposed to "OMG DID YOU HEAR WHAT THEY DO AT WXY AND IT'S THEIR POLICY." So let's all remember to share personal opinion and experience as such. e.g. we tried X and... y didn't work for us, but z did wxy was really helpful (or not) to me when I called for info Further, deponent sayeth not. We now return to your regularly scheduled list-serve. - Barb Moermond - We don't
Re: Stamp went to the bridge
Oh Beth, I'm so sorry. GLOW to light his path and ease your heart... Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:11:15 AM Subject: Stamp went to the bridge I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable from the FIP, was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic. Beth Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today
Tomi is absolutely beautiful; you can see the love he has for you in his eyes. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: C & J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:25:21 AM Subject: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg Cassandra __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Hi Marissa
yep, we rock hehehe and we're trying to convince marissa that mc and I are actually different people! pretty shaky results so far.. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Marissa Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2007 12:56:10 PM Subject: Re: Hi Marissa Aw, thanks for asking Wendy! I'm doing okay. The first several days after Slinky went to the bridge I really thought I was doing great! But the last few nights have been pretty rough. The guilt and "what-if's" started 2 nights ago - "if I'd caught the UTI sooner, gotten him in sooner - and to a better vet, done more, paid closer attention, etc."... In my head I know that's not true, but as someone else said, grief is not logical...and neither is guilt! I really started mourning Slink when I first found out how sick he was...but I think at that point I was mourning the loss of a friend, a companion, someone to keep me company. Now I think I'm mourning the loss of SLINKY...his personality, his sweetness, the amazing bond we had. Those are the things I can't ever get back, despite being able to get new friends, etc. So...it's a process I guess I have to go through, but it's not fun! I cried myself to sleep twice this week - holding his favorite pillow and petting the stuffed cat that looks like him (tho he's way too small). People have been fabulously supportive, though. The vet sent me a card with a very sweet note shortly after our appointment, and yesterday I got cards in the mail from 2 friends. Everyone's been checking on me and MC and Barb have been talking to me almost 24/7 (THANKS GUYS). It's so great to have family and friends help you through these times. Despite all the grief, I know Slink would not want me to be alone (he knows I need some babies to take care of me! lol) and I promised him I would give a good home to other cats. So I've begun looking for 2 new furbabes to adopt. I actually applied for 2 at the Washington Animal Rescue League: http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8110889 http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8136096 When I went to visit them again yesterday, one of the staff mentioned that they have a lot of apps in for Patience and that they were already leaning toward someone before I came along, so it sounds like I may not end up with her. But she said there weren't many in on Rufus...because his condition is scarier. I pointed out that I work in disability rights - it takes a lot to scare me! lol They seemed to think this one (below) would be a good match for Rufus since he's pretty quiet. http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8136115 I've decided I definitely want special needs kitties...but I just can't do another terminal illness (such as felv) again right now. I don't have the emotional resources...nor the financial. And now that I understand the potential costs of treatments, etc. I don't think it would be very responsible of me to take in a + cat knowing I can't afford to pay for what they may (probably will) need. It's beginning to seem, though, that the special needs kitties are fairly popular...so I'd be willing to take in a healthy, "middle-aged" cat who's having trouble getting adopted as well. I'll let you all know what happens with the applications...and I know you all will love them even if they're not positive! ;) Thank you all so much for being here! This list has been my lifeline and I know I couldn't get through this stuff without you!!! I hope all your furbabies are doing well!!! MJ and Angel Slinky :) wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Marissa, How are you doing today? You sound pretty upbeat in your posts, so I hope you're feeling good. Slinky is probably so happy to see you doing well, watching you from the top of his 'tree in the sky'. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
Re: Hideyo - Please send her strength
Hideyo, you and your crew are always in my thoughts and prayers - a steady stream of GLOW flows your way to help you make the painful decisions that are sometimes necessary and to give you strength and peace. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:31:21 PM Subject: Hideyo - Please send her strength I'm writing to the list for prayers, strength and love to be sent to our dear friend Hideyo. She has had so many losses, so much pain and sadness, so much strife, she could so use our strength right now. It has been difficult for her to find time to participate in the list lately. She has stoically been dealing with loss after loss, and still, when I asked for her help in interpreting Joey's test results she wrote back immediately. I have never met a more giving unselfish heart as Hideyo. You may not agree with where her decisions take her, but they are always made from a place of love and giving. I wish there was more that I could do to relieve her burdens. Sometimes knowing that you are not alone, knowing that others care and are sending good thoughts and blessings your way can help rally our fortitude and get us through the worst of times. Hideyo is such an unsung hero and I'm proud to call her friend. Hang in there Hideyo, you are loved, Nina Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty
Elizabeth, I'm so sorry... Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:27:33 AM Subject: Good Bye Mama Kitty Mama Kitty, You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much. You are surrounded by roses. I covered your grave with tulips and apple blossoms. It hurts so much to say goodbye. You will forever be alive in my heart. I love you. elizabeth Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
Re: Slinky - Sad News
Oh sweetie, I'm so sorry his time is approaching. Spend all the quality time with him that you can. GLOW to you both for strength, peace and calm... Marissa and Slinky} Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Marissa Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:02:44 AM Subject: Slinky - Sad News Hi all. Thank you so much for all the GLOW and well wishes. Slinky and I just got back from the vet (and a spin through the park). I am sad to report that his HCT has dropped to just over 5! It was a little above 7 on Friday. The vet didn't even want to give him the IR shot today because she said his platlettes (sp?) are so low that when they stick him in the vein he just bleeds. She thought an IV injection would do more harm than good. She agrees with me that it's best to let him go. She said she's never seen a cat with HCT that low who was still awake and breathing ok (which, amazingly, he is). But she also indicated that as the RBC's drop, his organs will shut down and things will just get worse. Unfortunately, I'm not sure when this will happen. I needed to bring him home right now so I'd have some time to say goodbye and do some of his favorite things. But I have a HGE day at work tomorrow and am not sure I'll get through it if I put him down tonight. Tomorrow night I have an evening meeting for work that I can't get out of! So it might have to be Wednesday. I don't know...I'd just die if he gets worse before then, but some things can't be rescheduled (I've already missed several days of work to take care of him and be with him). He's pretty much the same...still breathing fine, eating, drinking, and using his box. So I guess for now I'll just see how it goes. They said they'd fit me in any time. Thanks again for all your support! I will be getting another kitty eventually (he is my only and my first as an adult!!)...but I don't think I'm up for another FeLV pos. I'm thinking maybe one who's missing an eye or has a bad leg or is deaf or something. Something that makes them difficult to adopt but isn't life threatening...I just don't think I can go through this again right now. I hope all your furkids are well. I'll let you know when I need to add Slinky to the CLS. Thanks! MJ and Slinky 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
Re: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area? and resources to find vets all over usa
Marissa, here's the link for the American Association of Feline Practitioners: http://www.aafponline.org/ and here's their Find a Vet search page: http://www.aafponline.org/findadoctor.php and here're links to the searches I did for DC and then one for Baltimore: http://www.aafponline.org/find_results.php?name=&city=Any&state=DC&country=Any&zipcode=&Submit=Submit http://www.aafponline.org/find_results.php?name=&city=Baltimore&state=Any&country=Any&zipcode=&Submit=Submit another resource is the American Animal Hospital Association (these are the people behind www.healthypet.com as well) http://www.aahanet.org/ Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Marissa Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:26:55 PM Subject: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area? Hi. Is anyone in the DC area? Does anyone know of any vets who are supportive with FeLV + cats in the DC metro area (or Baltimore area)? The vet I've been working with doesn't think we should try IR or anything else. I'm tempted to get it and give it subq myself, but...that's probably not the best idea. I've got a call in to the oncologist at the hospital and to my regular vet. But I thought I'd see if anyone knows of any especially good vets in my area. Thanks!! MJ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
OT - where GLOW comes from:)
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2007/03/20/petscol.DTL this is an excellent article for those interested:) Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091
Re: Update on Slinky
oh Marissa that's awesome!! doesn't it just make your heart overflow to have such loving and generous people around you? Sending GLOW to you , Slinky and the rest of your chosen family:) Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Marissa Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 7:53:17 PM Subject: Update on Slinky Hi all. First of all, thank you SO MUCH for all of your advice, help, and support It's done me worlds of good!! I can't remember what all I've already posted and what I haven't (esp. cuz I've told so many people all the details that it's all getting a bit jumbled), so if some of this is repeat, forgive me. Slinky has never stopped eating entirely. He's been eating his dry Innova Evo like crazy...just wouldn't eat the raw I usually feed him. He's also been drinking quite a bit and using his litter box regularly (and no diarrhea). I got some sub-q fluids at the vet yesterday (they didn't really think it would help but gave them to me anyway), but didn't end up using them. When I went to bed last night his temp was 103.6, so I just syringe-fed him some ice water, wiped him down with a cold washcloth, and opened the window. He ate several times during the night (I had his dish with the dry food on my bed next to my pillow, so I heard him when he started eating, and his water glass - only thing he'd drink out of - is next to my bed), drank, and used the litter box. He felt cool to the touch to me all night (when he's had high fevers, he's usually been very hot) and this morning, so I didn't even take his temp. But, after reading all of your posts about transfusions, anemia, etc. I noted that his gums were VERY pale, and I thought his breathing and heart seemed a bit fast (though I'd never really paid attention before so wasn't sure how abnormal they were), so I decided to take him in this morning. Let me first say that I have the BEST "chosen family" in the entire universe!! I called my "sister" this morning because she said she was getting together with the 2 "dads" (it's complicated but you get the idea) and did I want to come. I called to tell her I couldn't go and why and she recommended I take Slink to a 24 hour animal hospital in DC (she took her dog there and both of the dads took their cats and dogs there as well). So we headed out to see what they could do. I had called the hospital and they said they could do a payment plan. But it turns out that what they have is a credit card you can apply for, but I applied for one through my bank this morning and was denied. The visit alone was going to be $110, but I figured I could at least find out what my options were. When I walked in, I said that my cat had FeLV and was very anemic, his gums were almost white..they came and took him back and started checking him even before they had all my ID info (I figured this was a good sign - they were serious about getting him taken care of!). When we got there, his temp was 106!!! That's the highest it's ever been! I gave them the results from the clinic on Wed (the ones I posted earlier) and they ran a PCV. They said his RBC was at 12 and Wed. it had been at 14...but since they were different machines and different types of tests they were hard to compare but figured the numbers were fairly comparable - at least it wasn't plummeting. They said about the only option was a transfusion and broad-spectrum antibiotics...but for all of that we were looking at probably about $1000 (the transfusion plus overnight stay, tests, etc.). They're a little higher than most because it's a 24 hour hospital, but I figured the other places would end up being about the same with all the tests, etc. The doctor said she had had a cat that was FeLV+ who lived to be about 5 and then got really sick...so I knew that at least she was familiar with the disease and was not going to write him off because of his label. That made me feel TONS better!!! She continued to say that his long-term prognosis is not great, but that it was worth trying the transfusion if I could spend the money. I called my "sister" in hysterics not at all sure what to do. She came over immediately and said if I wanted to do it, she'd pay for it if necessary. She doesn't have THAT much more money than I do though, so I wasn't crazy about that idea. But while I was waiting for her to come, I had called one of the "dads" who has 2 cats and recently spent $3500 on surgery for one of them. Despite the fact that he was running a million errands to get ready for a big trip, he said he'd be there in 20 minutes. When he got there, he looked at the estimates,
Re: Seattle vets
This is a link to the American Association of Feline Practitioners. http://www.aafponline.org/ and this is a link to a search for Seattle vets on that site (there are 8 in Seattle proper) http://www.aafponline.org/find_results.php?name=&city=Seattle&state=WA&country=USA&zipcode=&Submit=Submit Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 9, 2007 10:20:59 PM Subject: Seattle vets Still wondering about good progressive vets in the Seattle area ... thanks Kelly 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news
Re: ovaban and other stuff....Nina
Patti, I for one am always happy when I see you've posted something. Your presence here is simply, right. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 3:27:10 AM Subject: Re: ovaban and other stuffNina Dear Nina, I've been thinking much about you also. (And now w/ my vision going so bad, unless I put you on speed-dial...well. And, my "mobility" is also going to he!!, so it's almost impossible for me to answer phone. And, that portable phone my room mate got me, well, it has TOO many "things" and I have a great record of disconnecting incoming calls.. I give up! Think positive - great idea, but hard to do when you're steadily going [further] down- hill. After reading your post, I remembered how the vet visit went w/ Bart... (I also have a great vet, compassionate but MILES awayHe does give me Rescue Rates - thank heaven).. When I sadly had Bart PTS he asked me "what did I want to do w/ his remains.I jokingly said I'd put him in freezer w/ Fred, my [very LARGE] goldfishWe have been in such a deep-freeze, snow, sleet...I don't think ground will thaw 'til June So, I did have him cremated That fee was larger than I expected..But, as always, the critters come first. I didn't now how Bart would react - strange place, strange people.. And he was in so much pain.. But I did explain to him "why" I was doing this, promised him he would be taken care of [NOT what I wanted, but I've promised all my critters I'd never let them suffer]. He was so amazing though. He did growl, hiss - but only once. I just stroked him, "explained" to him what was going on, and he even let me kiss him I really believe he knew I was doing the best [only] option. When the vet gave him the sedative prior to the euthanol, well, he looked at me w/ those big, beautiful eyes - I think "telling" me, "It's ok Mom & thank you". And, for Charity's appt., I do have a carrier that has the metal thing on top that you can just open, and that will probably be much less "stressful" - for both her & me. I'm just concerned about "how" we can draw blood.. She was negative when I had her spayed, but she's been out the last 2 years, And, Bart, [NEVER tested], was old, "intact" & had all the textbook symptoms of wet FIP(He was so full of fluids...) Poor 'ole boy. A lousy life. Is it any wonder I prefer critters over people? And believe me, doing Rescue for so long, the things I saw, the idiots I encounteredG.. I could go on & on. Especially since I just watched Animal Cops (Heroes). Ughh.. I'll let you all know how it goes w/ Charity. I do talk to her every day, try to "explain" what we're [trying] to accomplish. And, yes, she does trust me so hopefully it will be smooth sailing w/ excellent results And, I do use Feliway & RR. And w/ the Feliway, it's so wonderful - stroking this former feral girl. I actually thinks she actually enjoys the touching...I still can't believe the turn-a-round..Makes me cry, tears of joy. SIMPLY AMAZING! This girl had me in ER so many times! Oh, I am rambling again, sorry, but I have gotten so much love & support from this group, And, it really helps me, emotionally. I really need that, especially now. So, thank you Nina and everyone for all your support. You'll never know how much it means to me, Oh, look at the time (Takes me forever to write). The insomniac is going to attempt to get some rest. Hopefully anyway. Much love, hugs & thanks, Patti & her gang AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
Re: Chocolate cat needs a name
I love Ganache!! Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Diane Rosenfeldt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:35:45 PM Subject: RE: Chocolate cat needs a name He sounds wonderful. Truffle? Ganache? Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gussies mom Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:10 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Chocolate cat needs a name I volunteer with a rescue that has taken in cats from a hoarding case. Some have tested FeLV+. One of the cats that tested negative and is awaiting a retest is a cocoa colored cat. He is all brown. I have never seen a cat like this in person. Anyway, his name was Reuben and we are searching for a better name. The possibilitties so far are Cocoa, Chocolate Boy, and Whitman, none of which I care for. If anyone can think of a name for a chocolate colored cat, can you please let me know. You can email me off list if you want. And please keep your fingers crossed he retests negative. Beth Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front
Re: OT: Chocolate cat needs a name
I thought of Havana Brown too, but there's also Tonkinese and Burmese Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Kat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:34:07 AM Subject: Re: OT: Chocolate cat needs a name Hi Beth, Do you think this kitty may be a Havana Brown breed? Maybe a play on Havana, or Cuba, or Cuba Gooding Jr, or any one of the characters played by CB Jr, or...??? If he's "just" a chocolate brown cat, then how about: Brach, Bosco, Cadbury, Guylian, Hershey, Lindt...? Kat (Mew Jersey) On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Gussies mom wrote: > Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:09:30 -0800 (PST) > From: Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: OT: Chocolate cat needs a name > > I volunteer with a rescue that has taken in cats from a hoarding case. Some > have tested FeLV+. One of the cats that tested negative and is awaiting a > retest is a cocoa colored cat. He is all brown. I have never seen a cat like > this in person. Anyway, his name was Reuben and we are searching for a better > name. The possibilitties so far are Cocoa, Chocolate Boy, and Whitman, none > of which I care for. > If anyone can think of a name for a chocolate colored cat, can you please > let me know. You can email me off list if you want. > And please keep your fingers crossed he retests negative. > > Beth > > > - > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
Re: OT: Bart & Charty are now safe!!!! W/ me!!!
Patti, you are an inspiration and an excellent example of mind over matter (or medicine). I agree w/MC about the recliner, that's awesome:) BTW, anyone want to borrow Bandit? Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2007 9:04:08 PM Subject: Re: OT: Bart & Charty are now safe W/ me!!! oh, great news! (warped person that i am, and fellow gimp, what struck me as most remarkable, is that you are wise enough to have a recliner in the barn for when you need it!) MC On 2/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know this is OT, but I have written about Bart & Charity, my ferals to the list.. And off list to Nina & Kerry.. The other night, we had a (short) blizzard here And, my room mate was off on an appt. & I had to walk my dogs after feeding. (NOT easy, I am so afraid of slipping & falling & losing my K-9 babies). Anyway, after feeding, when I was out with my Rottie, I heard these "sweet" cat sounds - turns out it was my dear Charity, she has come around so much, and her "talking" sounded like she wanted my help. Well, my Rottie is deaf, and I am almost blind I couldn't see her, and (Lady)Bug couldn't hear her, but when Bug SAW her, BAM -- thought for sure I was going down. And Charity has "no fear" of dogs, so she proceeded to approach me And, Bug is STRONG, and even pulling her leash back, well, w/ all my "problems", it was tough.. I finally got Bug back into house and went back out, into the blizzard, to see if I could get Charity.. I was out for over THREE hours! I was able to scruff her when in yard, but she freaked (NO claws!!! She has come a long way...). But, having hardly any use of my right arm, I had to let her go.. So, "we" decided to go out to barn.. And, while there, guess who comes out? BART I was shocked!! He had been in the blankets, etc. I have over crate, I guess "trying" to keep warm.. But, I was there w/ food, and he came out... By this time, over 3 hours, I had to sit down in my recliner to rest.. And, then, Charity, and Bart, come up, rub against my legs, so I figured the time was right!!! I reached down, scruffed Charity, then found out, she "allowed" me to just hold her... So, I had to make the long journey back to house, with her (peacefully) in my arms.. (I had closed the barn door, and left the food in the well-insulated crate for Bart) My main fear was Charity freaking once we got in house 'cause my dogs, 4 BIG, are very loud..They love cats, but, can act weird when a new one comes in. Thank heavens, after I gave them a talking-to when entering, none of them barked, got up, or did anything So, I got my Charity into a large crate and there she remains... (She was tested - negative, but that was over a year agoAnd w/ my Puma, recently being diagnosed w/ FIP & toxo, well, I didn't want to expose any of my babies Charity will be re-tested, and we'll go from there...) Back to Bart. When I got back to barn, he was in crate, so I closed the door When I looked him over, well, now I am really concerned.. He is so bloated Thought maybe I got a diff. pregnant female, but, he still has his equipment... And, Bart, was always SO feral, I could never get close to him. Now, he allowed me to pet him, seemed to like it. But, while stroking him, I could feel his backbone.And other bones. Made me wonder just what his problem is. Also, his eyes are "clouded", like cataracts or glaucoma (?). He also looks OLD. Probably is, he's been around here since I've been here...2 1/2 years now... So, I wormed him, and did not find anything in his feces...And, as bloated as he was, I figured if it was worms they'd be as big as a snake. But, NOTHINGI even used my magnifying glass. I worry now that maybe it's FIP. (A very recent topic on list lately.) I called my rescue partner & she is going to get us a vet appt. But, before I neuter him, I am going to have him hospitalized 'til we get all the blood test results back.. Depending on "what" the results are, I will be faced w/ having to decide what to do. I do have another rescue buddy that has converted her barn into a shelter, w/ indiviual homes, I just don't know.. So, Bart is still in crate in barn.. It's very well insulated, and, when I was "able", I had insulated parts of barn, filling cracks, etc. I just worry 'cause we're in a deep-freeze. He has a good bed, lots of thermals, and the crate is also insulated, w/ thermal on the outside... But, it's so cold and he's so old
Re: Lucy and unsubscribing
Please don't go Michelle, we all value your knowledge and input and want to be able to help you (whether by advice or just being an ear to hear) as you have helped so many of us. You having Gray there to be a 2nd pair of eyes is a blessing for YOU. Surely, you trust him to tell you if he thinks you're trying too hard to save Lucy. HIS and YOUR opinions and knowledge of Lucy are the best that exist and you have gone through the deaths of animal friends together before. And the making or not-making of the decision to assist. That said, I certainly see that a break from the list could be helpful to you and your state of mind. Would you be willing to just go No-Mail? GLOW to you and your family for strength, clarity and peace. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2007 6:49:31 PM Subject: Lucy and unsubscribing Since I last wrote, Lucy got up, climbed all 14 stairs to the upstairs, ate half a jar of baby food and a couple pieces of dry food, curled up on a cat bed, and is purring away as Gray pets her. When Gray poured the dry food for Patches, Lucy literally got up and ran over to it, trying to push Patched out of the way. I know she has FIP, or most likely does. I know there is no real cure and it will get her. But today does not seem to be the day, and I do not think it is selfish to decide that. Someone who can and wants to climb stairs, wants to eat (even if not a normal amount), wants company and pets, and can go running over to a bowl of food is, in my opinion, not asking to be killed. To whoever wrote that I should not do "home euthanasia," I was not considering home euthanasia, I was considering, in an emergency if she gets in distress, tranquilizing her until a vet could come or we could get to a vet. i did that with Simon and he immediately slept and actually died in his sleep before we needed to. But it was not intended as euthanasia. I and several others on the list have also used oral valium to ease passings, and it has done so. I do not think this is irrational. I stopped reading posts after that and just deleted, to whoever wrote something in the subject line about allowing suffering. Given that I had just come downstairs from Lucy's little trek and eating spree, it seemed too ridiculous to read. This list has been a godsend for me at times, and I have made friendships with a few of you that I hope to continue offline from the group. But this group is not helping me right now and is actually upsetting me quite a bit. So I am unsubscribing. Nina and Hideyo, I hope to stay in touch with you individually, and anyone else who actually wants to, and to share ideas and emotional support. But I am done with the group. Michelle No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Re: Luy not eating
GLOW continuing for you and Lucy. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2007 8:00:54 AM Subject: Re: Luy not eating She ate a tiny bit (like maybe 10 licks). So finally I syringe fed her 2/3 of a jar of baby food, with gray petting her as I did. She did not seem to hate it that much, and perhaps less than having food shoved in front of her face every 30 minutes, and afterwards she washed her face and then purred while I pet her. Maybe I will do this a few times a day for a few days and see, unless she starts to hate it more. confused and depressed, but cuddling with my girl, Michelle Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front
Re: Mylo's Passing
GLOW to light his path and ease your hearts. Our thoughts are with you. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Chris Ramzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:56:24 PM Subject: Mylo's Passing Thank you all for your support. I took Mylo to his vet appointment yesterday. I was nervous with a pit in my stomach. Mylo seemed subdued, almost like he knew why he was there and that he was ready to let go. His little frail body lay on a blanket on the metal table. His head still up. The vet gave him a sedative to relax him and within 10 minutes it had shown it's effect on Mylo. His tiny head slowly drooped down to where his nose was touching the blanket he lay on. My spouse and I continuously stroked Mylo's head, neck and paws. The vet came back in to administer the leathal needle. The vet checked Mylo for a heart beat and told us Mylo had passed. My spouse and I stayed with Mylo privately in the room. We said our goodbyes and gave Mylo a kiss on his head as that was my favourite place to kiss him. It was difficult as we walked out of the room and I looked back at his motionless body. It hurt to leave him there. When we got home we talked a lot about Mylo. I cleaned out his litter box and put his dishes in the dishwasher. I slept with the blanket that I took him to the vet in. It was difficult for us to fall asleep. Even though I knew what we did was right for Mylo because of the state he was in, I just wanted him back. In the end, I tried my best to help him. I loved him and cared for him like he was my child. >From: Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Mylo >Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:23:33 -0800 > >Chris, I am so very sorry you had to Mylo go, What a wonderful >compassionate thing you have done for your baby. You were his voice and his >heart when he could not speak for himself. Today you are full of sadness, >but there is that seed of joy somewhere inside you that will grow because >you have brought an end to all of Mylos pain, The very best gift you have >given. >Kelly > > _ Free Alerts : Be smart - let your information find you ! http://alerts.live.com/Alerts/Default.aspx Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367
Re: cat BM in inappropriate locations
Rubbermaid also makes high sided boxes with an entryway in one of the short sides. The ones I have have 11" sides (on the 3 sides) and I've seen Bandit actually standing up and tinkling against the side, so it's definitely high enough - and he can be a vigorous digger too. I got them at petsmart and I think I got some $ off with my pet perks card can't remember for sure now. Here's a link to the model I have:) http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441808078&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302033737&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302023690&bmUID=1170193454082&itemNo=3&In=Cat&N=2033737&Ne=2 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:22:46 PM Subject: Re: cat BM in inappropriate locations Try placing a new litter box near the old one (leave it). I like the Rubbermaid 18 gallon boxes instead of the regular litter boxes--they give the cat more room to scratch and are high enough backed that, if the cat can't get down, urine isn't sprayed out. You can cut a "door" out on the short side if you think the box is too high for the cat to jump in and out of. Fill it with the litter he likes. Now is no time to change litter or put a fragranced one in. If he is associating the litter box with pain, and I have had that happen a number of times, a new one should help. Also spray Feliway everyplace he has gone inappropriately. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:28 PM Subject: cat BM in inappropriate locations > > In a way, this is almost funny, and I hate to interject it between all > the terribly serious things that are happening with other's cats and > the desperate measures some are going to try and save their babies. My > heart goes out to you, Paolo and Michelle in particular. > > Our ~12 y.o. FIV+ male, Otis, has begun defecating in various places > around the house. The first incidence happened probably a month ago, > when he was locked in the bedroom with no litter box for about 1/2 an > hour (feeding time). He used the closet. We said "stupid us" and made > sure never to do that again. A few days later, he went in the closet > again. The doors were all open and he was never locked in. > > A month later, we found it in the bathroom, on the bathmat. Next, we > found urine on the bathmat. The next day, he went right on the tile in > the corner of the bathroom. Today, I *knew* he was going to do it, went > in there and caught him, put him in the litterbox. He vaulted out of > there like a teenager and headed right back to the bathroom. When he > squatted, I picked him up, and, well, he did it anyway. > > My partner is a vet tech, and I held him while she expressed his anal > glands today. One had a lot of relatively hard matter in it; the other > seemed pretty normal. We were hoping that was the reason for his > behavior. Lo, he went in the bathtub while we were out at the gym this > evening -- just a small bit, but there it was. > > Did he develop a litterbox aversion because the anal gland was > bothering him and just hasn't figured out that it will not hurt to use > the litterbox? Or ... what on earth is going on? On the tile and in > the bathtub are two of the least destructive choices he could make but > naturally we want him in the litterbox! > > > Lynette =^..^= > > "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be measured by > the way in which its animals are treated." --Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948 > TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: midnight
we can't forget that when they're showing symptoms of a UTI and they pull urine for analysis, that a gram ID and sensitivity test has to be done in order to identify the buggy that is the culprit so they can give the correct abx. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Jennifer Madon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:05:59 PM Subject: Re: midnight WOO HOO because he peed on my husband in bed this morning. I thought he was going to kick me and Midnight out of the house! Instead he said, take your cat and get out of bed! He is a grump in the middle of the night. Then again, cat pee isn't pleasant to wake up to! wendy wrote: White blood cells in the urine usually indicate bacteria is present, thus a UTI. Curing this will most likely help with the peeing everywhere. Make sure they give you antibiotics to cure the UTI if the vet says that's what it is. :) Wendy --- Jennifer Madon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just called to check on Midnight and they said he is waking up right now from the neuter. He did great. They checked his urine and the receptionist said she thought there were white blood cells in the urine. I gave the vet permission to do a blood test to check is liver. Any thoughts on this? Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just make sure it's a NON-adjuvanted rabies and distemper vaccine, and that the distemper is not a "combo" vaccine that has Chlamydophila (also known as: Chlamydiosis, Chlamydia psittaci) in it, as it's an unnecessary vaccine with common side effects and very little benefit. Ask for Merial's PUREVAX rabies: http://merialusa.naccvp.com/view.php?prodnum=058 and Heska's Feline ULTRANASAL FVRCP: http://www.heska.com/ultranasal/pr_info.asp Here's more about what adjuvants are: http://www.tahealth.net/vas.html Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: Please pray for Lucy
I would love to see a picture of your sweet Lucy. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:53:28 PM Subject: Re: Please pray for Lucy I can't attach a picture to a post, but will mail you one offline. If anyone else wants me to do that, please let me know. Thanks, Michelle In a message dated 1/28/2007 3:34:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Michelle, I will be praying for Lucy - what does she look like so that I can picture her? Leslie Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
Re: Please pray for Lucy
Of course we'll add our prayers to yours. GLOW to you both for strength healing endurance and peace. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 11:52:47 AM Subject: Please pray for Lucy The vets are still all stumped by her case but think it is wet fip. I have been researching feverishly and she is on a lot of meds and is eating, but otherwise seems to be going downhill. Someone on an fip list serve emailed me about a cat who had all the same symptoms plus additional ones who was not given any hope and was hospitalized and not eating. The man got all his friends to pray for his cat, even though he himself was not religious, and his cat inexplicably completely recovered. The vets can not explain it, but it is 5 months later and he is fine. I have read medical studies saying that people who are prayed for tend to get better more frequently and faster, for whatever reason (the study was written by doctors from a medical, not religious, perspective and they offered no hypothesis of why). So I am asking all of you to pray for Lucy to get better, for her to start producing red blood cells again and for the fluid to go away from her belly and for her symptoms to all get better. If you would pray for her even once, I would appreciate it. I have tried everything else. thanks as always, Michelle Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
Re: Antonio
That's what I do too. The s/o NORMALIZES the pH of the urine which deals with both struvite and oxalate AND makes it OK for the kitty without the problem to eat it too. The only thing you really have to worry about is that the s/o is a pretty high calorie food. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:03:22 PM Subject: Re: Antonio Elizabeth, I just feed ALL my cats the prescription diet. I use royal canin s/o which is for both types of crystals. It's expensive, but I can't separate everyone's food.. t elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you, Kerry. ***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)*** I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago. Those slap-happy receptionist people are USELESS. If I had not asked a stream of questions I would have left there not knowing a d*mn thing about his condition or how serious it is. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] technician brought poor 22lb Antonio out ON HIS BACK (he NEVER likes to be carried that way)...and he was in SO much pain. He just peed everywhere, bless his little heart. He was screaming. This they did before I even had time to check out or talk to the vet or do anything. Once they finally put him down and let me hold him - he was a perfect angel and didn't even pee on my silk shirt. He loves his mommy. Then they forgot to give me the medicine he needs so I had to go back and get it. They wouldn't have given me the special food if I had not said -- doesn't he need some special prescription food too? The whole time they are just as slaphappy as they can be yapping up a storm about how somebody did their hair or how cute some guy is or who did their nails. Little do they know just how close they were to a big can opening. I did my best to be gracious - but I am telling you - I STILL feel like going back down there! That's my BABY! It's serious because there are so many crystals in his urine that he could have a complete blockage at any timeso I have to watch him carefully and make sure he only eats HIS food and nobody else eats his food. Maybe it's just the 8 days without nicotine but I honestly wanted to shake all of them and just pop their heads together. Plus, it didn't help that my regular vet wasn't there. The one who was there is very competent...but refused to give Antonio anything for pain saying that the "anti-inflammatory was enough for his pain". I hope he gets this same condition and only gets a steriod shot. *** END RANT ALERT *** Sorry -- it's going to take a few minutes before I can be nice again. I promise, I'll try very hard. elizabeth On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sending positive vibes for your little Antonio--what a great and noble name!-- to start to feel better now he's had the steroid and antibiotics. hugs Kerryx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Antonio Thank you, Phaewryn. I just talked to the vet. Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well. No blockage - thank goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that. They gave him a steroid for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing antibiotics for at least 14 days. Wants me to change his diet to prescription c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten meal. Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed one cat one thing -- and seven others something else. We had recently switched to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is what caused it. I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without him. Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty. and he is. elizabeth On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sending healing vibes and positive energy for Antonio! Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? "The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window." Quote by: Les U. Knight IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any p
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OK, I guess it's available in more clinics than just my vet's (just did a search) but they'd still have to phone the script over and the petsmart has better hours. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 11:13:09 PM Subject: Re: Antonio Is it 'Royal Canin diet feline Urinary S/O'? Where do you buy it? The only place I've found it available online is in the UK... On 1/16/07, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Elizabeth, I just feed ALL my cats the prescription diet. I use royal canin s/o which is for both types of crystals. It's expensive, but I can't separate everyone's food.. t elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you, Kerry. ***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)*** I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago. Those slap-happy receptionist people are USELESS. If I had not asked a stream of questions I would have left there not knowing a d*mn thing about his condition or how serious it is. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] technician brought poor 22lb Antonio out ON HIS BACK (he NEVER likes to be carried that way)...and he was in SO much pain. He just peed everywhere, bless his little heart. He was screaming. This they did before I even had time to check out or talk to the vet or do anything. Once they finally put him down and let me hold him - he was a perfect angel and didn't even pee on my silk shirt. He loves his mommy. Then they forgot to give me the medicine he needs so I had to go back and get it. They wouldn't have given me the special food if I had not said -- doesn't he need some special prescription food too? The whole time they are just as slaphappy as they can be yapping up a storm about how somebody did their hair or how cute some guy is or who did their nails. Little do they know just how close they were to a big can opening. I did my best to be gracious - but I am telling you - I STILL feel like going back down there! That's my BABY! It's serious because there are so many crystals in his urine that he could have a complete blockage at any timeso I have to watch him carefully and make sure he only eats HIS food and nobody else eats his food. Maybe it's just the 8 days without nicotine but I honestly wanted to shake all of them and just pop their heads together. Plus, it didn't help that my regular vet wasn't there. The one who was there is very competent...but refused to give Antonio anything for pain saying that the "anti-inflammatory was enough for his pain". I hope he gets this same condition and only gets a steriod shot. *** END RANT ALERT *** Sorry -- it's going to take a few minutes before I can be nice again. I promise, I'll try very hard. elizabeth On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Sending positive vibes for your little Antonio--what a great and noble name!-- to start to feel better now he's had the steroid and antibiotics. hugs Kerryx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Antonio Thank you, Phaewryn. I just talked to the vet. Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well. No blockage - thank goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that. They gave him a steroid for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing antibiotics for at least 14 days. Wants me to change his diet to prescription c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten meal. Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed one cat one thing -- and seven others something else. We had recently switched to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is what caused it. I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without him. Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty. and he is. elizabeth On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sending healing vibes and positive energy for Antonio! Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? "The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window." Quote by: Les U. Knight IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpaye
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as it's a prescription diet, you probably need to have your vet call/fax a script this link has the details about the food http://www.royalcanin.us/vetdiet/felineurinary.html If you have a petsmart with an attached banfield clinic, they carry it - you'll need to have your vet call in the prescription and they'll give you a little card to use every time you buy it. I live in Madison WI and there are only 2 places in town I can get it - my vet's clinic and the one petsmart with a vet (the other one doesn't have a vet yet). here's a link to their royal canin's retailer finder - you want to select the vet diet (i.e. prescription food) http://www.royalcanin.us/retailer.html Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 11:13:09 PM Subject: Re: Antonio Is it 'Royal Canin diet feline Urinary S/O'? Where do you buy it? The only place I've found it available online is in the UK... On 1/16/07, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Elizabeth, I just feed ALL my cats the prescription diet. I use royal canin s/o which is for both types of crystals. It's expensive, but I can't separate everyone's food.. t elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you, Kerry. ***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)*** I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago. Those slap-happy receptionist people are USELESS. If I had not asked a stream of questions I would have left there not knowing a d*mn thing about his condition or how serious it is. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] technician brought poor 22lb Antonio out ON HIS BACK (he NEVER likes to be carried that way)...and he was in SO much pain. He just peed everywhere, bless his little heart. He was screaming. This they did before I even had time to check out or talk to the vet or do anything. Once they finally put him down and let me hold him - he was a perfect angel and didn't even pee on my silk shirt. He loves his mommy. Then they forgot to give me the medicine he needs so I had to go back and get it. They wouldn't have given me the special food if I had not said -- doesn't he need some special prescription food too? The whole time they are just as slaphappy as they can be yapping up a storm about how somebody did their hair or how cute some guy is or who did their nails. Little do they know just how close they were to a big can opening. I did my best to be gracious - but I am telling you - I STILL feel like going back down there! That's my BABY! It's serious because there are so many crystals in his urine that he could have a complete blockage at any timeso I have to watch him carefully and make sure he only eats HIS food and nobody else eats his food. Maybe it's just the 8 days without nicotine but I honestly wanted to shake all of them and just pop their heads together. Plus, it didn't help that my regular vet wasn't there. The one who was there is very competent...but refused to give Antonio anything for pain saying that the "anti-inflammatory was enough for his pain". I hope he gets this same condition and only gets a steriod shot. *** END RANT ALERT *** Sorry -- it's going to take a few minutes before I can be nice again. I promise, I'll try very hard. elizabeth On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Sending positive vibes for your little Antonio--what a great and noble name!-- to start to feel better now he's had the steroid and antibiotics. hugs Kerryx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Antonio Thank you, Phaewryn. I just talked to the vet. Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well. No blockage - thank goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that. They gave him a steroid for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing antibiotics for at least 14 days. Wants me to change his diet to prescription c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten meal. Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed one cat one thing -- and seven others something else. We had recently switched to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is what caused it. I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without him. Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty. and he is. elizabeth On
