[Felvtalk] Prices of drugs...

2011-07-12 Thread Natalie
know. This is just the confirmation on snopes and does have a great info chart! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Cats eating grass, insects, etc.

2011-07-13 Thread Natalie
Unfortunately, every time they kill wildlife and eat at least part of them, they can become exposed to parasites, mainly roundworm..which means using poisons to get rid of them -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]

Re: [Felvtalk] Cats eating grass, insects, etc.

2011-07-13 Thread Natalie
leukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:01 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats eating grass, insects, etc. Unfortunately, every time they kill wildlife and eat at least part of them, they can become ex

Re: [Felvtalk] Cats eating grass, insects, etc.

2011-07-13 Thread Natalie
e world is different today with the introduction by mankind of poisons to the environment.  Hopefully we can help keep our cats healthy, even if we can't 100% control their behavior. ~B. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia

Re: [Felvtalk] Cats eating grass, insects, etc.

2011-07-13 Thread Natalie
: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats eating grass, insects, etc. They can get tapes from rodents & certain insects, too. They are not the same tapes as they get from fleas, just as the tapes we get from pork are not the same. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   --- On Wed, 7/13/11, Natal

[Felvtalk] Sunscreens increase skin cancer....

2011-07-14 Thread Natalie
We were "talking" about the FDA last week - here's another perfect example of how one cannot even trust them on something as simple as sunscreen ingredients! And all this, WITH what we think are strict regulations - and those who want to do away with ALL regulations, making it easier for big corpor

Re: [Felvtalk] Sunscreens increase skin cancer

2011-07-14 Thread Natalie
: Re: [Felvtalk] Sunscreens increase skin cancer You are exactly right Natalie... It is shocking that the FDA cares little or nothing about the people who buy products they approve that are known carcinogenics. The Agriculture Dept. also care nothing about the food we eat. Meat is

Re: [Felvtalk] Sunscreens increase skin cancer....

2011-07-14 Thread Natalie
7;s asked her if > she ever lived by gas wells, guess what her answer was? Yup, you are > correct. > > Sorry for the rant, I'm sick of these agencies/gov that don't protect us > like they should. > > L > > - Original Message - > From: "Natalie"

Re: [Felvtalk] babies and seafood

2011-07-16 Thread Natalie
Millions of gallons PLUS the toxic chemicals added to it! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk]

Re: [Felvtalk] babies and seafood

2011-07-16 Thread Natalie
telling me it was a live virus? What are your thoughts? Supposedly it is better and has less of a chance of producing a cancerous tumor at the injection site. - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] babies and seafo

Re: [Felvtalk] Was, Sunscreens increase skin cancer...Now gas drilling

2011-07-16 Thread Natalie
What shocks me is that the powers that be pretend what is proven in Gasland doesn't exist! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 5:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sub

Re: [Felvtalk] OT Gas driling

2011-07-16 Thread Natalie
Isn't there any way you could tell these people that they're being lied to and there's no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 4:58

Re: [Felvtalk] OT Gas driling

2011-07-17 Thread Natalie
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT Gas driling > On 07-16, Natalie wrote: > Isn't there any way you could tell these people that they're being > lied to and there's no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow? Believe me, we have tried, and people just won't listen. I wish they

Re: [Felvtalk] Was, Sunscreens increase skin cancer...Now gas drilling

2011-07-18 Thread Natalie
Except that all the incentive billions are still being given to big oil and small companies that are trying to develop alternative energy aren't getting ANYbig oil doesn't want to give up the ! They started getting subsidies in the 50s so that that they could afford drilling oil...do they n

Re: [Felvtalk] OT Gas driling

2011-07-18 Thread Natalie
ing > On 07-17, Natalie wrote: > You must have some proof of it, pictures, affidavits, sale of your > house for less, etc.? We had pictures of the mess it made. Trees down, road torn up, etc. but these gas companies have lawyers on retainer to fight their battles, and we were advised we&

Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Xana to the CLS

2011-07-20 Thread Natalie
I am so sorry, Esther! It's always so hard to lose a furry one. Last week, unexpectedly, and without any warning, one of the very healthy" 15 yr old cats started having some problems on Monday night. We had to euthanize him on Friday morning - he had a huge growth in his colon, it actually came

[Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs

2011-07-20 Thread Natalie
Heartworm drugs for pets; Big Pharma's cash cow - In a seemingly diabolical plot, veterinarians and pharmaceutical companies have teamed up in a marketing campaign to frighten pet guardians into giving year-round heartworm preventatives to their cats, as well as dogs. These so-called experts s

Re: [Felvtalk] to Natalie

2011-07-20 Thread Natalie
their experience! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:34 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] to Natalie Natalie, I had a similar experience

Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs

2011-07-20 Thread Natalie
are published. Sadly, there is no treatment for cats. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:53 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs

Re: [Felvtalk] Umberto Please add to the CLS :(

2011-07-21 Thread Natalie
This really has been a bad week - I am so sorry for Umberto! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sara Kasteleyn Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:21 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk]

[Felvtalk] URL - for heartworm history, charts, etc

2011-07-21 Thread Natalie
In case the chart I sent previously, didn't show up - this is quite good - shows where it is most prevalent, symptoms, etc. http://www.heartwormsociety.org/pet-owner-resources/heartworm.html#history ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs

2011-07-21 Thread Natalie
What a lucky dog to have come across you - imagine him dying somewhere all alone, in pain, with nasty people taunting and chasing him...in such cases, euthanasia is the kindest solution, even though it may be heartbreaking to us! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun

Re: [Felvtalk] Hope, adult female testing faintly + on SNAP Sat, 7.23 AND Schmitzi, 10-week-old kitten

2011-07-24 Thread Natalie
10 weeks old could be an "iffy" age to test, that's why results could be iffy, and if exposed, the kittens may shed the "faint" positive when their immune systems develop. It would be important to feed them good supplements, good diet. My vet would NOT have used all those vaccines at the same tim

Re: [Felvtalk] Oscar Please Add to the CLS :( :( :(

2011-07-24 Thread Natalie
I am so sorry - Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 1:11 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Oscar Please Add to the CLS :( :( :( Ok really how much

Re: [Felvtalk] testing

2011-07-25 Thread Natalie
YES, I believe so. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 10:13 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] testing I know I have read there is a chance of a fal

Re: [Felvtalk] Elisa or snap test

2011-07-25 Thread Natalie
Do the IFA -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 2:59 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Elisa or snap test Okay, my vet did the 3 way snap in the

[Felvtalk] OFF TOPIC, but important to us: FDA fooling with supplements and foods

2011-07-26 Thread Natalie
Dear Reader, Let go of that stem and back away from the cherry. It's for your own good. You see, that cherry is officially an unapproved drug, at least according to the Einsteins at the FDA. Obviously, that makes no sense. But it lead me to ask: If cherries are unapproved drugs, what does t

Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods

2011-07-26 Thread Natalie
--- From: "Lorrie" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods > Natalie, I hope everyone in the group appreciates this off topic > information as much as I do. I agree with you 100% on all of this. > > You and I

Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods

2011-07-26 Thread Natalie
4:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods Natalie, I hope everyone in the group appreciates this off topic information as much as I do. I agree with you 100% on all of this. You and I could both spend a lot of time up on our soa

Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods

2011-07-27 Thread Natalie
com>> To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods > Natalie, I hope everyone in the group appreciates this off topic > information as much as I do. I agree with you 100%

[Felvtalk] FYI: What is Hemabartonella? I never heard of it before.....

2011-07-27 Thread Natalie
What is Hemobartonella? by Miranda K. Workman, President and CEO, Purrfect Paws Animal Behavior Center, LLC http://broadcaster.catster.com/t?r=3&c=5420&l=37&ctl=18DDD:019CBE51CEB3799 E51B712D8EAAC5322&> Hemobartonella infections are relatively common in cats in North America.

Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

2011-07-27 Thread Natalie
ut it, though. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christy Buchin Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 8:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; cort...@i-owe.com; custse...@ltdcommodities.com; felvtalk

[Felvtalk] Off topic - for those who are interested: Fracking/Earthquakes in Arkansas

2011-07-29 Thread Natalie
Remember we "talked" about fracking? With so much of it going on, seems logical that it could do that! I always wondered if drilling for oil too much in one area might undermine the area's sound structure..h Natalie Fracking Operations Cause Thousands of Earthquakes i

Re: [Felvtalk] Question

2011-07-29 Thread Natalie
The poor cat may have been confused/scared, bullied or thought to have been bullied by another cat - is that possible? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin Potter Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:55 PM T

Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style

2011-07-29 Thread Natalie
That's very nice of you - I wish more people would care for their relatives' petsevery day, there's a notice or phone call about someone's mother/father, aunt/uncle either dying or moving to assisted living, and every time it sounds almost like blackmail: If someone doesn't take this cat/dog, I

Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style

2011-07-29 Thread Natalie
Sorry, didn't reply to your other question What I would normally do, would be to keep Princess in a separate room for a few days, exchange the cats beddings so that they can intermingle the scentsthen, if you have one, place her in a large cage, with a sheet over the sleeping area for privacy,

Re: [Felvtalk] Question

2011-07-30 Thread Natalie
I agree, stop any fish! Here's a list of good info on feline kidney stones and a variety of treatments: http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Feline+kidney+stones -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf O

Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods

2011-07-30 Thread Natalie
@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods I did too - Do you recall the link where the info came from? On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Lorrie wrote: > Natalie, I hope everyone in the group appreciates this off topic > information as much as I do. I agree with y

[Felvtalk] Spotting negligent vets

2011-07-30 Thread Natalie
http://www.opednews.com/articles/5-Red-Flags-to-Spot-Potent-by-L-M-Brown-110 730-12.html 5 Red Flags to Spot Potentially Negligent Veterinarians Steer clear of veterinarians who may end up injuring or

Re: [Felvtalk] Retesting

2011-07-31 Thread Natalie
My assumption would be that the first ELISA was a false positive. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 10:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Ret

Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties

2011-08-01 Thread Natalie
If the kitties are too young, the tests are also not reliable! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of molvey...@hotmail.com Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 6:29 PM To: Ana Gutierrez; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties

2011-08-01 Thread Natalie
IFA is most reliable! Do they use that one in Mexico? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ana Gutierrez Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 6:30 PM To: molvey...@hotmail.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject

Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties

2011-08-02 Thread Natalie
Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties I think the standard snap test which just looks for FIV & FeLV is probably more reliable than the triple test.  Not sure though. The IFA that Natalie mentioned looks to see if the virus has gotten into the white blood cells, and if so then the

Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties

2011-08-02 Thread Natalie
oun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 2:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Wow, Natalie, this is a great test result but it blows my mind. How does that happe

Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties

2011-08-03 Thread Natalie
ngs that I can't remember what does what and what is good for what. I would think a decent diet is a good basis to start with. Probably not the cheapest cat food they sell. But the supplements are just way too confusing for me. Natalie and some of the others might have some opinions.

Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties

2011-08-03 Thread Natalie
Are we talking about two kinds of shedding of the virus? When I say shedding the virus, I mean that as the immune system develops, the body gets rid of the virus. Could it also mean that as the virus infects while shedding? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mail

[Felvtalk] Off Topic - Does owning a cat make you sexier?

2011-08-03 Thread Natalie
http://www.catster.com/cats-101/does-owning-a-cat-make-you-sexier No, we're NOT a bunch of little old ladies in tennis shoes... ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.

Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties

2011-08-03 Thread Natalie
re contagious. Beth   Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   ________ From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Are we talking about two kinds of shed

Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic - Does owning a cat make you sexier?

2011-08-03 Thread Natalie
Sorry, I am sexier because I have more cats than my age. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:15 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties

2011-08-03 Thread Natalie
50 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties > > Shedding a virus means they are contagious. > > Beth > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > > > _

Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic - Does owning a cat make you sexier?

2011-08-03 Thread Natalie
Are your pockets stuffed with catnip or do you rub it all over yourself? =^..^= -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:11 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subj

Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties

2011-08-03 Thread Natalie
Was the mother positive? Could they have acquired the virus AFTER being born to a negative mother? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 5:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleuk

Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties

2011-08-04 Thread Natalie
I would do it, but cannot because cats get adopted; I cannot take even the slightest chance that one of our cats could infect someone's cat by one of ours. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Se

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Natalie
I hate people (except us)do you know how cowardly and cruel people are? They bring their cats/dogs to surrender at a shelter and claim that they are strays...a 14-yr old cat was just brought to a NY shelter, healthy but with a slight sniffle - how can anyone do that? What kind of horrible race

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Natalie
I didn't realize that this is what happens with FeLV vaccines? That's terrible - it means that an abandoned or given up cat could tests positive but only from a vaccine - I know it's the case with FIV Ft. Dodge vaccines, that's why many vets don't like it very much! -Original Message- Fro

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
FANTASTIC NEWS -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question Hooray!!! I'm soun

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
a form you want, when it comes down to it you don't know what people will do) and they bothered to contact us instead of sending the cats off to the pound. We made arrangements for them to be picked up (they paid half) and delivered back to us safely. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Lorrie wrot

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
half) and > delivered back to us safely. > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Lorrie wrote: > > > On 08-04, Natalie wrote: > > > > > I hate people (except us)do you know how cowardly and cruel > > > people are? They bring their cats/dogs to surrender

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
We are all supportive of anyone who rescues, deals with unwanted and/or sick cats, fills their homes with discarded animals! I cannot tolerate people who are hypocritical about animals; pretending to love them, and then give them up at the drop of a hat even if it means abandoning them outside to

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
re are a lot of those sick people and there's no denying it. But I guess even the ones with the casual attitude that just get tired of their pets are probably the worse because they're not sick in the head, they're just plain selfish and heartless. They know better and still toss t

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 10:14 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! > > On 08-04, Natalie wrote: > > > I hate people (except us)do you know how cowardly and cruel > > people are? They bring their cats/dogs to surrender at

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread Natalie
;, and the rest will be absolute garbage.. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotte

Re: [Felvtalk] Rescue people

2011-08-06 Thread Natalie
I had an old woman call me a few years ago; she spends winters in FL. She wanted me to take an old cat as a trade-in for a kitten to be a good "mouser" in her basement while she was away. Last year, when our vet's office was opened in the morning (on a major busy road), there was an open box b

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread Natalie
This is such an old "old wives' tale"; supposedly, a cat will smell the breath of milk on a baby's mouth, and then try to suck the air out of the baby's mouth/lungs - how ridiculous for anyone in the 21st Century to use this lame and idiotic excuse! I bet that if questioned further, with supplying

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread Natalie
he faint of heart. There's > > > > always someone ready to kick you when you're down, say you are not doing > > > > something right because you aren't doing what they would do, etc etc > > > > etc. > > > > I've seen

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-06 Thread Natalie
Many TNR don't test, unless a cat looks really sick, too sick to be released into a colony. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 1:36 PM To: felvtalk@feli

Re: [Felvtalk] Saving bees

2011-08-06 Thread Natalie
AND I read that cell phones are wreaking havoc on bees, too! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 4:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Saving

Re: [Felvtalk] Defying the Odds

2011-08-06 Thread Natalie
That's one for the booksamazing! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of molvey...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 8:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Defying the Odds Ch

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-06 Thread Natalie
(Animal Rights Alliance) Project Save-A-Cat. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 3:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-11 Thread Natalie
That's sad - why would they want her to stay in the trap? That's no way to keep a cat that is friendly. Check with a species specific rescue - maybe they would take this poor cat. No, she cannot be just dumped out there again. A bathroom, garage, basement would be a better fate than that until a

Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-11 Thread Natalie
Is this a really feral cat? From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:30 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Beth, I think t

Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-11 Thread Natalie
...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:08 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Is this a really feral cat? From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...

2011-08-11 Thread Natalie
I use the Midwest crates, but I use two (door-to-door), "twistem" tie together. I use one as living room and food, the other for litter box and open from the top to clean/feed. If a cat is really feral, I slide a cardboard between the two cages to open one or the other top safely. From: felvt

[Felvtalk] FW: Sorry to Ask so much, but...

2011-08-11 Thread Natalie
http://www.amazon.com/Pet-Folding-Crate-Cage-Kennel/dp/B004G4W2I4/ref=sr_1_6 ?ie=UTF8 &qid=1313079277&sr=8-6 look at this one for 41.99 Opens from top and has 2 doors, apparently. Fr

[Felvtalk] FW: Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-11 Thread Natalie
I had to erase most of the "old" stuff, to get this sent; new server accepts 30 KB (better than the last one, 20KB). From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:46 PM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Please S

Re: [Felvtalk] Rafferty Please add to the CLS :(

2011-08-11 Thread Natalie
I am so sorry! Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:08 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Rafferty Please add to the CLS :( My heart is heavy and hurting tonight,I had

Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...

2011-08-12 Thread Natalie
The general time allotted for any cat that one plans to release in an area, is 4 weeks.that includes taking the cat outside to allow it to get to know the area, in increments. The cat must realize that this is her home, and she must learn the scent. If this were dead in the middle of winter, one

Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...

2011-08-12 Thread Natalie
The one concern is that Hemy is NOT being released in her own territory and if she doesn't get used to Bonnie and her yard, may start searching for the old area. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, August 1

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Hemy & THANK YOU

2011-08-12 Thread Natalie
Poor Hemy must be very upset; but the fact that she's not lunging at you when you tend to her needs, proves that she's not a true feral! An outdoor enclosure for your cats and Hemy (separated, and where she could live all the time) would be great - then you wouldn't have to worry about her safety

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Hemy & THANK YOU

2011-08-12 Thread Natalie
That's what we did' one has half a roof, the others have window screening over the wire mesh - cuts down on debris and rain. Another one has a sun umbrella standing over part of it - and guess what...most cats lie in the sun on the hottest of days! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun..

Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-12 Thread Natalie
Around here, they know that eventually, they must get along, and they DO. They may not all be bosom buddies, but they respect one another's turf! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net

Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...

2011-08-13 Thread Natalie
aves this world before they do..care is a lifetime commitment. On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:20 AM, Natalie wrote: The one concern is that Hemy is NOT being released in her own territory and if she doesn't get used to Bonnie and her yard, may start searching for the old area. From:

Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-13 Thread Natalie
Have you tried playing with her? I always collect goose feathers when they molt and tape on or two to the end of a long stick and use it to "stroke" feral cats. At first, they hiss and swat at the feather (depending on their socialization and tolerance), and eventually, they enjoy it...I stroke t

Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...

2011-08-13 Thread Natalie
use chicken wire to make a screened in porch here. The bugs don't bother me nearly as much as the thoughts of something harmful getting on the porch to be. On Aug 13, 2011, at 2:02 AM, Natalie wrote: Did you know that there’s screening available that is “pet’proof”? Our cats clim

Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-13 Thread Natalie
We have one cat from NJ that has a tiny earring at the base of the ear, and another cat from NY that has a tattoo ('04) inside the ear, when he was neutered. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane S

Re: [Felvtalk] Jager Please add to the CLS :(

2011-08-14 Thread Natalie
I am so sorry! Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:55 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Jager Please add to the CLS :( We lost our sweet Sids kid Jager last night to

Re: [Felvtalk] First Petting of Hemy!

2011-08-15 Thread Natalie
That's great news..you don't even need a feather on a stick - see, she's NOT feral at all, only terrified! She sounds like she really trusts you and wants to interact! Poor little Hemy, in great company! What I don't understand is this: If she has a cleft palate, how can she eat? Are you sure it'

Re: [Felvtalk] First Petting of Hemy!

2011-08-15 Thread Natalie
Eliot Spitty, who was supposed to have been FeLV+ (that's why I joined this group), was trapped outside of our house, and we assumed he was feral. Now, that we know he's not FeLV+ (also thanks to this group), but has serious renal failure, he is the sweetest cat. Uses his nose to bump our faces, an

Re: [Felvtalk] First Petting of Hemy!

2011-08-15 Thread Natalie
Unfortunately, I'm the "bad guy" because I have to medicate him with three different meds and give him sub-q fluids daily - his skin is very tough and I hate doing it to him - other cats have such soft skin that the needles just glide right in.not Eliot's! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX

2011-08-20 Thread Natalie
Can't someone foster the cat - all they would need is some extra space in a garage, basement, bathroom..until a home could be found! Surely, there must be someone.. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Friday, A

Re: [Felvtalk] First Petting of Hemy!

2011-08-20 Thread Natalie
It's too early to let her go - she needs to get to now you better...yes, she would definitely try to go back and could get lost forever and something could happen to her! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf

Re: [Felvtalk] First Petting of Hemy!

2011-08-20 Thread Natalie
ng, or take the next step in the other direction and bring > her inside. ;-) > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > ] On Behalf Of Natalie > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 2:40 PM

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX

2011-08-21 Thread Natalie
worst I will go with her Monday to have him pts. Lets not make me have to do that! On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Natalie wrote: Can't someone foster the cat - all they would need is some extra space in a garage, basement, bathroom..until a home could be found! Surely, there must be som

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX

2011-08-21 Thread Natalie
have always used this list for placement in the past and always gotten lucky.:) On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Natalie wrote: Aren't there any rescue groups around Austin area? No kind person to temporarily foster this poor cat? I'm keeping my fingers crossed - good luck! From

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed

2011-08-23 Thread Natalie
YES – age is great! I can hardly wait to be 80 and more, then I’ll really be able to get away with more, like Sophia on Golden Girls From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:07 PM

Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt

2011-08-24 Thread Natalie
Congratulations! I don't get these people, if they don't really care for the horses, don't they at least appreciate them for their monetary value? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of katskat1 Sent: Tues

Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt

2011-08-24 Thread Natalie
Sorry to stray into this area, but we were on this thread: My solution to this came in 1985, when I read a Rodale book by a reporter whose experience, while writing about all the animal issues from fur to veganism, was to become vegetarian himself. I looked at our dogs and cats, and wondered why

[Felvtalk] ALERT NOTICE: Fake Frontline

2011-08-24 Thread Natalie
Fake Frontline To all cat and dog lovers! A few months ago, a friend noticed a

Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt

2011-08-24 Thread Natalie
At my age 70, I've earned the right to say what I feel...andI do itjust ask my kids.. "A failure is just a stopover on the way to SUCCESS." From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Being b

Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt

2011-08-24 Thread Natalie
We have one cat with a vestibular problem, and he's super sweet, a real uncle to all the cats.but when he feels worse, he walks around hissing all the time, and we know it's not at any particular cat - he's just not feeling too well that day! Fletch probably feels terrible when he does that! Is t

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