Re: [Felvtalk] VooDoo's Home

2011-06-25 Thread Barb Moermond
yay
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From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, June 25, 2011 7:52:40 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] VooDoo's Home

OK, so who says miracles and divine intervention do not exist?  After a couple 
of hours in the very hot sun, I found evidence that maybe VooDoo was alive and 
close by.  Then, I discovered that the police now have a NO trapping policy.  I 
went to my Japanese vet to see if he could find a trap.  He was going to call 
the city on Monday.  So, back to being a little stressed, feeling as though my 
best hope was gone.  


A couple of hours later, a very short, but really hard rain came and I was once 
again concerned because I thought he was hiding in a drain pipe.  As soon as 
the 
rain ended, I went to the back door and called out asking him to come home.  
What do you know, he answered me with his crazy, whiny cry.  After a few 
minutes 
of trying to coax him into the house, I decided that he was either trapped or 
hurt.  I called to him and he continued to call back.  Once I located him 
hiding 
under a tree, I belly crawled on the wet ground to where he was.  I reached 
under, in the dark, expecting the worst.  However, he let me grab him and pull 
him out.  


So, 48 hours after going missing, my baby is home safe and sound.  We will be 
watching closely for sniffles and signs of fever!

Thank you all for your advice and positive vibes.  I truly believe that they 
worked.

Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cali Kitten - Going to see Dr. Wright in Dallas at 2:00 today

2011-06-22 Thread Barb Moermond
great!  I look forward to hearing about a visit with a compassionate 
open-minded 
vet:)
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From: ckess...@cox.net ckess...@cox.net
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Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 11:47:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali Kitten - Going to see Dr. Wright in Dallas at 2:00 
today

Ben,

I am going to see Dr. Wright at 2:00 today.  Cali ate really good last night 
and 
actually played a little, but today her fever is back up and she doesn't want 
to 
eat.  Thank you for your suggestion of Dr. Wright.  I will see what Dr. Wright 
has to say and let everyone know.

Cathy

 Ben Williams drsiebl...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
I have to agree - we give all of our kitties a supplement called kittievite - 
it's a malt paste with a good daily multivitamin included... They never want to 
just eat the stuff, so we smear a little on their haunches, and they go about 
cleaning themselves and getting their vitamins.  Works like a charm and the 
effects are almost immediately noticeable in their luxuriously shiny coats!  


On the subject of vets in the Dallas area, we see Dr. Benjamin Wright at 
Lakewood Vet Clinic - he's great with felv cats and is always open to trying 
new 
things. He saved our Dexter last year, so I have nothing but awesome things to 
say about him.  His office can  be reached at 214.826.4800.  Dr wright is 
ordering the T-cell treatment for Dexter - hoping to have it thursday.

Ben

On Jun 21, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Cathy - I forgot to mention that good veterinarians also believe in vitamin 
supplements.  Our vet always gives any of our sick cats injectable vitamin 
supplements to help them get better, Vitamin B12, C etc. - ask your vet or 
future vet - it helps a lot!
 Natalie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ckess...@cox.net
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:14 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Cc: Kelley Saveika
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
 
 Thanks Kelley,
 
 When we adopted Sasha, she had been tested and vaccinated when we adopted 
 her.  
We had her tested again yesterday and she was still negative.  

 
 I live in a two bedroom apartment, so it's really hard to keep them separated 
unless we adopt out Sasha.  I don't really want to do that either.  I have 
seen 
a post for a vet in Dallas at Lakewood Veterinary Hospital that seems to work 
with people with kittens who are FELV+.  I guess I will look into him.
 
 Blood transfusions are so expensive though.  There is so much to do and it 
seems like so little time.  I appreciate your words of encouragement.
 
 Cathy
 
  Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
 =
 Hi Cathy,
 
 I feel your pain - when my Missy was diagnosed with severe congenital heart
 disease, I thought I would die.  But they all die of something,
 unfortunately, and I think the special health kitties are the most special
 in other ways.
 
 We have a wonderful lady on this list who volunteers in an FELV sanctuary.
 Maybe she can give you some advice.
 
 
 I would definitely change vets - we adopted out a double pos (FIV+ and
 FELV+) to a lady in Waco about 2 years ago and she is going strong.  I would
 get a confirmatory IFA test.  I would get my other cat tested and
 vaccinated.   You may want to separate them.  Some do and some don't.
 
 I would not put her to sleep because she may be carrying a virus that may
 make her sick someday.  Even the feral cat people are getting away from PTS
 based on the result of a test.
 
 Love and light,
 
 Kelley
 
 On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:40 PM, ckess...@cox.net wrote:
 
 I am new the site and I am just crushed.  I have never had cats before and
 I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas.  She had Ringworm to
 start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be.
 We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and
 overlooks the skyline.  Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday,
 I became worried so I took her to the emergency room.  She's always been
 little, but playful and happy until last week.
 
 They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive.  The only thing I had
 ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who
 get it - die.
 
 Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying.  I just moved to Dallas
 last July.  I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should
 be in apartments, so I got Cali.  Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself,
 so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and
 she is very healthy.
 
 The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told 

Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

2011-06-21 Thread Barb Moermond
a 2nd opinion wouldn't be a bad thing.  ALL living creatures die, regardless of 
any specific viral status.
1. Did they use the 3-way [felv fiv heartworm] elisa test? This test has a 
history of large numbers of false positives.
2. is Sasha vaccinated for FeLV?  what's her approx age?  If she's an adult, 
she's safer than another kitten, and if she's also vaccinated, I wouldn't worry 
at all.
3. is the lethargy caused by anemia?
4. if so, what kind of anemia?  there's regenerative, which has frequently been 
treated with success and non-regenerative, which is much more serious and 
harder 
to treat.
5. what other work was done?  was there blood work?  get copies of the results. 
 if the 3-way test is the only thing that was done, get proper blood work done.


I searched www.catvets.com for members in Dallas and there's only one entry, 
but 
she's gotta be a better choice:


1 Doctors Found. 


Dr. Raina Weldon 
Cat Hospital of Dallas 
9780 LBJ Freeway 
Suite 105 
Dallas, TX 75243 
United States 
Phone: (214) 348-2463 
Website: www.CatHospitalOfDallas.com 
Practice Type: Feline Only 



Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito


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his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 

- Anonymous





From: ckess...@cox.net ckess...@cox.net
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 3:40:35 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

I am new the site and I am just crushed.  I have never had cats before and I 
adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas.  She had Ringworm to start 
with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be.  We live 
in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the 
skyline.  Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried 
so I took her to the emergency room.  She's always been little, but playful and 
happy until last week.

They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive.  The only thing I had ever 
heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - 
die.

Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying.  I just moved to Dallas last 
July.  I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in 
apartments, so I got Cali.  Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got 
another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very 
healthy.  


The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I 
need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get 
better 
so she should be put down.  For all of you out there, please say a prayer for 
me 
and Cali.  She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a 
real fighter.  I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep.  


She is so little.  I want her to get better.  I can't stop crying.  

Cathy Kessel
(858) 361-8972

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

2011-06-21 Thread Barb Moermond
at this point, there is no purpose or advantage to separating Cali and Sasha - 
if Sasha was vaccinated for FeLV prior to you adopting her, then she's fine. 
 Please talk to the vet at the clinic I found on www.catvets.com.
 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito


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his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 

- Anonymous





From: ckess...@cox.net ckess...@cox.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com
Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 4:13:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

Thanks Kelley,

When we adopted Sasha, she had been tested and vaccinated when we adopted her.  
We had her tested again yesterday and she was still negative.  


I live in a two bedroom apartment, so it's really hard to keep them separated 
unless we adopt out Sasha.  I don't really want to do that either.  I have seen 
a post for a vet in Dallas at Lakewood Veterinary Hospital that seems to work 
with people with kittens who are FELV+.  I guess I will look into him.

Blood transfusions are so expensive though.  There is so much to do and it 
seems 
like so little time.  I appreciate your words of encouragement.

Cathy

 Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
Hi Cathy,

I feel your pain - when my Missy was diagnosed with severe congenital heart
disease, I thought I would die.  But they all die of something,
unfortunately, and I think the special health kitties are the most special
in other ways.

We have a wonderful lady on this list who volunteers in an FELV sanctuary.
Maybe she can give you some advice.


I would definitely change vets - we adopted out a double pos (FIV+ and
FELV+) to a lady in Waco about 2 years ago and she is going strong.  I would
get a confirmatory IFA test.  I would get my other cat tested and
vaccinated.   You may want to separate them.  Some do and some don't.

I would not put her to sleep because she may be carrying a virus that may
make her sick someday.  Even the feral cat people are getting away from PTS
based on the result of a test.

Love and light,

Kelley

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:40 PM, ckess...@cox.net wrote:

 I am new the site and I am just crushed.  I have never had cats before and
 I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas.  She had Ringworm to
 start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be.
  We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and
 overlooks the skyline.  Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday,
 I became worried so I took her to the emergency room.  She's always been
 little, but playful and happy until last week.

 They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive.  The only thing I had
 ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who
 get it - die.

 Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying.  I just moved to Dallas
 last July.  I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should
 be in apartments, so I got Cali.  Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself,
 so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and
 she is very healthy.

 The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me
 that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't
 get better so she should be put down.  For all of you out there, please say
 a prayer for me and Cali.  She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds
 and she has been a real fighter.  I don't know how I will find the strength
 to put her to sleep.

 She is so little.  I want her to get better.  I can't stop crying.

 Cathy Kessel
 (858) 361-8972

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[Felvtalk] Elisa/IFA clarification

2011-06-15 Thread Barb Moermond
I asked my vets for clarification on the significance of these two tests and 
here is their response.

Here is the information from the Cornell University website about Feline 
Leukemia stages and testing.  If you would like more information, you can go to 
their link athttp://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/felv.html
 

I understand there are two stages of FeLV infection. What are they? 
FeLV is present in the blood (a condition called viremia) during two different 
stages of infection:
· Primary viremia, an early stage of virus infection. During this stage 
some cats are able to mount an effective immune response, eliminate the virus 
from the bloodstream, and halt progression to the secondary viremia stage.
· Secondary viremia, a later stage characterized by persistent 
infection 
of the bone marrow and other tissue. If FeLV infection progresses to this stage 
it has passed a point of no return: the overwhelming majority of cats with 
secondary viremia will be infected for the remainder of their lives.
How is infection diagnosed? 
Two types of FeLV blood tests are in common use. Both detect a protein 
component 
of the virus as it circulates in the bloodstream.
· ELISA (enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay) and similar tests can be 
performed in your veterinarian's office. ELISA-type tests detect both primary 
and secondary stages of viremia.
· IFA (indirect immunofluorescent antibody assay) tests must be sent 
out 
to a diagnostic laboratory. IFA tests detect secondary viremia only, so the 
majority of positive-testing cats remain infected for life.
Each testing method has strengths and weaknesses. Your veterinarian will likely 
suggest an ELISA-type test first, but in some cases, both tests must be 
performed—and perhaps repeated—to clarify a cat's true infection 
status. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito


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Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-13 Thread Barb Moermond
Not as a regular part of their practice, but they have always been open to new 
information and research I've brought.  The first vet I used there, who is no 
longer there, had FeLV+ kittehs herself, so the viral status was just another 
piece of information to have in the kittehs file. 

they might have a holistic practice that they work with, but I've never looked 
into it.

if you end up using them, tell 'em I sent you:)
http://catcareclinic.net/
 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito


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From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 8:31:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

I'm in Spring Green!   It is good to know that the CCC can work with 
FeLeuk kitties, altho I have a good vet nearby in Dodgeville.  Do they 
use any holistic treatments?

On 6/11/2011 9:22 PM, Barb Moermond wrote:
 I'm in Madison and use Cat Care Clinic.  Both of the vets there are members of
 AAFP [www.catvets.com] and are both good with my babies.  I've been going 
there
 since Ninja was diagnosed FeLV+ and suffering from seizures etc.  So, I've 
been
 going to them since 1998 and still love them.  If you look at catvets.com, you
 will be able to find other vet members by ZIP code.  There are other members 
at
 other clinics here in the area, but I like the fact that CCC is cats only and
 they know my babies.
   Barb+Smoky the House Puma+Miss Lilly Bird+Angel BanditNo


 My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his
 life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile.

 - Anonymous




 
 From: Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 9:57:02 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

 Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets?  I talked to a
 wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina)  his first
 recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would
 probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic.  That regular blood
 work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement.  Certainly hope that is 
the
 case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000!

 I would like to combine the services  of a good regular vet, which I think I
 have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk
 kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing 
vets,
 I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that?

 Are any of you in Wisconsin?

 Pam

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Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-11 Thread Barb Moermond
I'm in Madison and use Cat Care Clinic.  Both of the vets there are members of 
AAFP [www.catvets.com] and are both good with my babies.  I've been going there 
since Ninja was diagnosed FeLV+ and suffering from seizures etc.  So, I've been 
going to them since 1998 and still love them.  If you look at catvets.com, you 
will be able to find other vet members by ZIP code.  There are other members at 
other clinics here in the area, but I like the fact that CCC is cats only and 
they know my babies.
 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+Miss Lilly Bird+Angel BanditNo 


My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 

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From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 9:57:02 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets?  I talked to a 
wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina)  his first 
recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would 
probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic.  That regular blood 
work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement.  Certainly hope that is 
the 
case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000!

I would like to combine the services  of a good regular vet, which I think I 
have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk 
kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing 
vets, 
I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that?

Are any of you in Wisconsin?

Pam

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Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-11 Thread Barb Moermond
Yes, an open-minded vet willing to look into new things is key.  CCC has always 
been open to all of the information I've sent them over the years; willing to 
discuss issues etc.  I am also the one who introduced them to Rescue Remedy! :)
 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito


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his 
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From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 10:19:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

I am in a unique situation. We live on a military base in Japan with limited 
resources.   I take my cats to a general practice Japanese vet. He has kept my 
Fuji alive and healthy for almost a year.  She is FeLV positive with 
Mediastinal 
Lymphoma. I never had the opportunity to give her supplements or any of the 
other treatments that others use. My own experience had been that a low stress 
environment, attention to the slightest signs of illness, decent food and lots 
and lots of love have been sufficient!  


Of course every cat is different, but it seems as though a regular vet who is 
willing to do a bit of research on occasion is good enough for an asymptomatic 
cat.  


Melinda, Fuji, and VooDoo

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 11, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote:

 Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets?  I talked to a 
wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina)  his first 
recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would 
probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic.  That regular blood 
work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement.  Certainly hope that is 
the 
case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000!
 
 I would like to combine the services  of a good regular vet, which I think I 
have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk 
kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing 
vets, 
I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that?
 
 Are any of you in Wisconsin?
 
 Pam
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rosie Lola are safely home - - Bless you - - may others be so gracious to us - - cat's eyes

2011-03-31 Thread Barb Moermond
my Ninja had odd pupils once she started having health problems.  they would be 
unevenly dilated etc  they checked her ocular pressure and it was actually a 
little low, so not uveitis.

it's absolutely worth checking out, but anecdotally, felv+ kitties sometimes 
have inexplicable weird pupil stuff - and it's usually just weirdness, nothing 
actually wrong
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From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com
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Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 5:32:29 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Rosie  Lola are safely home - - Bless you - - may others 
be 
so gracious to us - - cat's eyes


in sights?


The four t-n-r ferals at Tractor Supply all have weird pupils.  I can pet 3 of 
the four.

I picked up Henry and brought him home Sunday night because he had an area 
under 
his eye that has not healed over several months.  It looks like a puncture 
wound.  


The  three original cat's eyes all seemed perfect when I started feeding them - 
- about 2 years ago.  Henry was trapped last September at a close by restaurant 
and relocated himself.  His pupils were perfect then.  There are several 
restaurants in the area so they spend time eating there probably - - deep fried 
fish.  Tractor Supply puts out dry food.  I feed a can and a half of Evo at 
night.

Henry's eyes are way too dilated.  There is no blink reflex in one of them and 
a 
slight one in the other.  We are going to the vet on Saturday.  web sites talk 
about taurine deficiency.  The mama's pupils seem constricted.  


comments?

czadna   
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Re: [Felvtalk] Time to step down from rescuing for a time being.

2011-03-28 Thread Barb Moermond
my thoughts are with you and your husband - spend as much time as you can with 
him
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From: ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 8:09:59 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Time to step down from rescuing for a time being.

Hi all,I'm taking some time off from rescue due to my husband's illness. He has 
liver failure and is not a candidate for a transplant. He has been 
hospitalized 2 times this month and once last month he was placed into a skill 
nursing facility since the 18th of February after the first trip to the 
hospital. 

He is in the end final stage of his disease his liver has stopped working. 
Can die at any given time. He is being given all the pain meds he wants for 
comfort so he will most likely fall asleep an never wake up again. 

I want to make myself available at all times for him. 
He is only 64 years old... I know to some of you that may sound old but it 
isn't 
really.
Hospice has been part of this as well to help me cope with all of this. Hospice 
is available to me 24 hours a day.
 
Sincerely,
Terrie 
 
TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
Sultan, WA. 98294
Terrie Mohr-Forker
http://tazzys.org/
Non-Profit national rescue
Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
 
 
Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question.....

2011-03-23 Thread Barb Moermond
well, my ninja was 4-5 when she came to me and all that I know about her 
previous history is that she was indoor/outdoor and spayed.  she'd been with me 
for about 4 years when she started having problems and it was another 5 months 
or so before I had her tested for FeLV and she was positive, but it was her 
other health issues that were the real problems. a seizure inducing brain tumor 
and in the end, intestinal lymphoma.
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- Anonymous





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 3:56:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question.

And I also wonder about adult cats that are FeLV+, and perfectly healthy.
I've never had adults with no symptoms, only a kitten that died years ago.
Eliot Spitty is about 5 yrs old, and Mr. Tux about 6 yrs old.  I wonder how
that will work out in the coming years - they get supplements, good food,
etc.  Has anyone had that experience, and how long did it take, if at all,
before the cats started getting symptoms or related cancers?

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:01 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question.

One thought process that I've run into is that a healthy adult cat  
(FELV negative) has a hearty enough immune system to successfully deal  
with the FELV virus without acquiring it.

I can't see that vaccinating them at this point would be of value.

Just my 2c

Gloria



 From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com
 Date: March 21, 2011 12:07:44 PM CDT
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Yet another question.
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org



 I've mentioned my kitty Two Face earlier because she died two weeks  
 ago and when they did the necropsy they found out she had a huge  
 tumor and was FeLV +.  Since then I've had a few of my other kitties  
 tested with the combo/snap test at the vet's office.  All have come  
 out negative so far, thank the Lord for that.  These other kitties  
 that have tested negative lived with Two Face for over a year.  
 Sharing litterboxes, food bowls and all that stuff.  I would think  
 that would mean that they had enough exposure to the virus to get it  
 in their system and that they either extinguished the virus or put  
 it into a dormant status.  Is that a reasonable assumption?  My main  
 question now is should I give them a FeLV vaccination.  If they did  
 get the virus in their system and extinguished it then they're  
 immune for life, right?  If so, there's no need for a vaccination.  
 Is it possible with all that exposure that they didn't get enough of  
 the virus into their system to do any harm?  If that's the case then  
 I should vaccinate them?  I just don't know how they could not have  
 gotten enough exposure since they lived together and shared  
 everything for over a year.

 Thoughts?


 I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results  
 that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it  
 inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward  
 it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without  
 looking further. - Mark Twain
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Re: [Felvtalk] MaryChristine

2011-03-12 Thread Barb Moermond
oh thank the gods - a friend i know?  I've been sending GLOW steadily and don't 
know anybody local there I could call.
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his 
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- Anonymous





From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
To: Feline Leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 1:18:37 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] MaryChristine

Just fyi, for those who know MaryChristine  - she had heart bypass surgery on 
Monday, over yonder in New York State.  The update from a friend of hers says 
that she's out of intensive care, now in a regular room, and doing well.

Gloria


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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV playing paws under door with non FeLV cats

2011-01-19 Thread Barb Moermond
I think your precautions aren't necessary if your neg is up to date with 
vaccinations.  I wouldn't be worried at all and would think about starting to 
introduce them properly.
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his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 

- Anonymous





From: dana giordano giordano.d...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 3:30:56 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV playing paws under door with non FeLV cats

My kitties have suddenly begun playing paws under the door of my rescued IFA
positive FeLV cat and I'm wondering how worried I should be?

I'm kind of worried but it seems he likes to do this and I don't want to
take it away from him as it's his only kitty interaction - he hasn't had any
or been interested  - since I caught him a year ago. Their paws can't get
all the way under the door -  the gap is about a half inch high  - but they
get about halfway and he can get about halfway, so I think they do touch,
even if it's only for a moment.

I wash everything separately, and I wear flip flops in his room (although I
leave them outside the door. :() I don't change clothes after playing with
him, but I do wash my hands/arms. He's about 10 years old, from what the
neighborhood people have told me, and he's been confirmed IFA positive FeLV
and  FIV positive since I rescued him a year ago.

I can see he's been feeling better and better and getting more energetic as
I've dewormed him, along with steady food/water/care. So I imagine he may
start trying to instigate paws himself, soon. He's got a window but even
that gets old, I imagine.

Anyone have any thoughts on how much increased risk there is /concern I
should have with playing paws?

Dana
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Re: [Felvtalk] BOB

2010-09-25 Thread Barb Moermond
I'm so sorry - GLOW to light his path and ease your heart.
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- Anonymous





From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 6:56:46 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] BOB

BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS THRU AND SOMEHOW ALWAYS COMES BACK .  MY BOBY DIED 
WEDNESDAY THE 8TH.  HE DID NOT SHOW UP FOR FOOD AND WHEN I FOUND HIM, HE WAS 
ALREADY GROWING COLD.  DECIDED NOT TO DO AUTOPSY, WOULD NOT BRING HIM BACK AND 
WOULD ONLY MUTILATE HIM.  I MISS HIM.  HE WAS SUCH A GENTLE SOUL AND TOOK SUCH 
GOOD CARE OF THE KITTENS WHEN I BROUGHT THEM HOME.  HE BATHED THEM AND TAUGHT 
THEM TO HUNT AND WRESTLED WITH THEM AND THEY ALL SLEPT TOGETHER.  I HAVE 
PICTURES TO REMEMBER, BUT NOT THE SAME.  HE WAS ONLY 5 AND THERE WAS NO WARNING 
.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlie to the CLS list

2010-09-15 Thread Barb Moermond
GLOW to light his path and ease your heart.
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My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
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From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: FeLV Talk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 12:47:10 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlie to the CLS list

Charlie was a little Flame Pt. Siamese mix kitten with Medium super soft hair. 
He was a joy to have around  purred constantly. Charlie
lost his battle with FeLV this morning. He had been going down hill for
a week or so, but had a good night last night where his rescue mom got 
to visit  he ate almost a whole jar of baby food. This morning, 
however, he hardly ate anything, even with an appetite stimulant. His 
3rd eyelids were up  he would have to rest after walking only a few
feet. He was not in my life for long, but he made a big 
impression on me  his rescue mom. We love you little boy!You can see pics of 
Charlie on the FeLV Cats FD page at: http://tinyurl.com/27gdqas

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] please add Tiger to the CLS

2010-09-02 Thread Barb Moermond
GLOW to light his path and ease your heart.  Don't beat yourself up; our little 
loves hide weakness and sickness incredibly well.
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From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 3:57:14 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] please add Tiger to the CLS

Tiger didn't have FeLV, but he passed away last night, much too soon. He was 
thirteen. I'd had him for three years.  He was always a gentleman  a loving, 
sweet boy. Three weeks ago we went to the vet. Something was wrong; he was 
sluggish and not eating well. It turns out he had a large abcess in his throat. 
The abcess was lanced, a whole lot of dead tissue was removed, we were sent 
home 
with antibiotics and everyone thought things would be fine. They weren't - 
there 
was a second vet visit last Monday, the abcess was drained again  he was given 
more fluids. Tiger was hospitalized this Monday. The abcess wouldn't clear up, 
and even though he was given a stronger antibiotic he just couldn't fight the 
infection. I visited him yesterday and he ate for me and purred and purred. I 
didn't want to get my hopes up too high, but I still wasn't expecting my vet to 
call this morning  give me the news that he'd died. I thought maybe we had a 
little bit of a
chance. It turns out that Tiger had a hole in his esophagus; he must have 
ingested something that cut him. I would give anything to have him back with me.
I wish I had taken him in sooner. He'd been quiet this summer, and not sleeping 
with me at night like he normally did, but everybody was quiet this summer 
because the house was so warm. Nobody else was snuggling with me on the bed 
either. I didn't pick up on the little signs that he wasn't feeling well. If I 
had, he might still be alive today.
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Re: [Felvtalk] faint pos on snap test, neg on IFA

2010-09-01 Thread Barb Moermond
it's a yes/no test, no shades of grey

the antigens are either present or not

faint pos is a meaningless term
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From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
To: Feline Leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 6:30:22 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] faint pos on snap test, neg on IFA

I've been asked about a cat here in Arkansas - a Persian named Bicford, that is 
about 1.5 yrs old, and tested faint positive on the snap test (Elisa), but 
negative on the IFA.  I gather that means that Bicford has been exposed, so has 
antigens, but doesn't have the virus in his blood?  I'm confused.

Can someone help me with interpreting what that means?

Thanks,

Gloria


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Re: [Felvtalk] FIV/FELV teen awaiting retest, in heat--Do we spay?

2010-08-27 Thread Barb Moermond
I think that in order to keep this a civil and safe place to exchange 
information, we need to please address any issues we have with other 
list-members directly to them - off list.  It's also a good idea to evaluate 
whether it's the content of the message that irks or the way it is being 
perceived - and then to also remember that plain text does not convey any other 
secondary communication - body language, tone etc.

my .02
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- Anonymous





From: Michelle Brockman teals...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Fri, August 27, 2010 4:13:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV/FELV teen awaiting retest, in heat--Do we spay?



Also, you are coming across in e-mails as very abrasive. You are not the only 
one that rescues/cares for/knows about FeLV and you should respect other 
people's perspectives and experiences. I gave her an 'What I would do' scenario 
based on my personal experiences. I have been on this list for many many years 
and perhaps do not respond as much as you do but am in no way a novice when it 
comes to these matters. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc.

2010-08-24 Thread Barb Moermond
Hey Michelle,
does he have any other health problems?  food allergies can show themselves in 
the skin and it might be more than just the squamous cell.  is any of the 
lesion 
simply irritated skin around the cancer?  If so, i would probably go with 
something like eucerin creme original or eucerin calming creme (has oatmeal) 
around the edges [my derm recommends it and it's got fewer ingredients and 
works 
really well - very mild]

does he medicate easily?  is any of that in his food or applied topically 
(thinking the oil for soothing)?  with that many things in the mix, i'd be 
hesitant to add more.  if you do try something else, think about stopping 
something he's currently getting.  
I went through this and did tons of research and spent money I shouldn't have 
in 
order throw anything that sounded good at Ninja.  She was seizure free her last 
2 months, but she ended up having intestinal lymphoma and there's not much you 
can do except palliative care.

I think that all of us need to step back once in a while and think about how 
we're treating/dealing with our ill companions and how much is actually for 
them, to ease pain and prolong quality of life, as opposed to for us because we 
can't bear to lose them. i'm on the lower end numbers-wise and have only had to 
make the decision twice as an adult (family pets when i was a kid were mom's 
decisions) and each time i've learned more about the grace our friends walk in 
and how they have NO baggage about death and dying - it simply is - and how 
much 
i still have to learn.
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My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 

- Anonymous





From: Michelle Brockman teals...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 1:12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc.


Natalie, what is this group and how do you find out how to make this tea/balm? 
One of my cats has squamous cell on his nose. I give him C-Caps herbal cancer 
pills, Vetri DMG, Reishi mushroom blend and fish oil capsules everyday. The 
inflamation seems to be getting better but his nose is a bloody scabby mess. =(



Michelle Brockman
It is when we forget ourselves that we do the things which will be remembered 






 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:34:28 -0400
 From: at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc.
 
 Might you consider making and administering an herbal tonic/tea made of
 Graviola, Chaparral, Andreographis, and Neem? In a Google group, which is
 really for people who are interested in alternative cancer treatments, many
 have been using the tonic internally and a black salve externally on tumors
 (or both), even terminal squamous cell on a cat's face and jaw right now,
 many have been using it on their animals: Horses, dogs, cats, rabbits for
 all types if cancer, often very successfully. Even when combined with
 traditional things like chemo, it still helps and makes the quality of life
 and death a lot better! If interested, you can join the group and while
 treating the animal, advice is given by all membersCats do not tolerate
 it well because one of the herbs causes them to froth at the mouth, however,
 I have discovered a food mixture which a cat that I treated recently,
 absolutely devoured! Natalie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Weese
 Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 6:10 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc.
 
 
 My 10+ yo cat, Vixen, now has FeLV+ spinal fluid and brain inflammation
 which is causing head bobbing and weakness/uncoordination in the back legs.
 The most likely scenario is now lymphoma. She has always been very robust
 and healthy (and pink) even though being diagnosed with FeLV as a kitten.
 
 Now, this.
 
 She is still eating good although she has lost a little weight -- she still
 likes to be around me and the other cats, but... I have an apptmt with the
 oncologist next week, and just don't know whether to treat or to do simply
 pallative care. I know cats can respond well to chemo, but my other cancer
 cats did not have FeLV. So I was looking for any ideas, suggestions, etc.,
 that folks might have.
 
 She is still on some antibiotics while we wait for final reports on several
 infectious diseases but the prelim reports have showed no infectious
 diseases. She is also taking an anti-inflammatory dose of pred.
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc

2010-08-24 Thread Barb Moermond
did the vet have any idea about why a rejection would occur?  
surely it's standard to type the donor and donee before transfusing...

it's an option in the tool box and knowing about it is good.  also, every cat 
is 
different [just like us] and mileage may vary when it comes to various 
treatments
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- Anonymous





From: Michelle Brockman teals...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 3:53:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc


I  always caution people about transfusions based on my own experience. Our 
kitten needed a transfusion due to her levels being so low which she did get. 
After the transfusion she perked up and seemed like she was getting better 
however an hour and half after she started to crash. Three hours later she was 
dead. The vet said that cats can have a bad reaction to the transfusion and in 
essence 'reject' the new blood. I wasn't aware if this before hand. I would 
have 
rather had a few more days with her rather than be blindsided by her death by 
transfusionif she was going to die anyway. 


Hopefully someone can give some helpful suggestions - I just know that 
transfusions, depending on the circumstances aren't always the best answer. I 
know too that we tried procrit but that took too long to have any effect and 
ultimately was pointless.

Prayers for Josie...



Michelle Brockman
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 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:57:26 -0400
 To: lini...@fastmail.fm; gcru...@centurytel.net; ma...@bemikitties.com; 
FeLVTalk@felineleukemia.org; felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com; 
cats.ro...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc
 
 just got an email from a rescue i work with, about someone who adopted
 a FeLV positive a few months ago. kitty is NOT doing well--with a
 hematocrit of 8. she asked her vet about doing a transfusion, and he
 said that's not done with FeLV cats. well, other than getting a new
 vet, i'm asking you guys for help. (he's also saying it could be
 whatever-they're-now-calling-hemobartenellosis.) i've got all the info
 from the rescue, and the contact info of the cat's mom.
 
 i know that some of you have experience with this, which i do not: if
 any of you are willing/able to help walk lisa (the human) and josie
 (the cat) through this, please let me know! feline anemia boards? i've
 suggested she check www.adopt.bemikitties for local vets (she MAY be
 in the miami, FL area, but not sure on that yet--that's where the
 rescue is), as well as amer assn of feline practitioners for a vet
 near her, but i think that talking with someone who knows what they're
 talking about would be a big help.
 
 thanks!
 
 MC, out of her depth
 --
 Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!
 Maybe That'll Make The Difference
 
 MaryChristine
 Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org)
 Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team)
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc.

2010-08-24 Thread Barb Moermond
I'd be interested in more info about this too
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From: jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 4:08:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc.

Michelle,

If you have a cat with SCC, I would highly highly recommend doing the
salve.  If you join the group (I can send you an email from the group and
you can join it) the woman who runs it generally makes the salve and you can
get it from her.  It's not expensive.  I have seen it work miracles in the
time I have been in the group.  In fact we recently used it for a tumor mass
on my dog's tails - within two weeks the tumor had dissolved.  Everyone
sends pictures and you can see the progress - it is amazing.  I'll send you
an email from the group.

Jenny


On 8/24/10, Barb Moermond mr_mok...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hey Michelle,
 does he have any other health problems?  food allergies can show themselves
 in
 the skin and it might be more than just the squamous cell.  is any of the
 lesion
 simply irritated skin around the cancer?  If so, i would probably go with
 something like eucerin creme original or eucerin calming creme (has
 oatmeal)
 around the edges [my derm recommends it and it's got fewer ingredients and
 works
 really well - very mild]

 does he medicate easily?  is any of that in his food or applied topically
 (thinking the oil for soothing)?  with that many things in the mix, i'd be
 hesitant to add more.  if you do try something else, think about stopping
 something he's currently getting.
 I went through this and did tons of research and spent money I shouldn't
 have in
 order throw anything that sounded good at Ninja.  She was seizure free her
 last
 2 months, but she ended up having intestinal lymphoma and there's not much
 you
 can do except palliative care.

 I think that all of us need to step back once in a while and think about
 how
 we're treating/dealing with our ill companions and how much is actually for
 them, to ease pain and prolong quality of life, as opposed to for us
 because we
 can't bear to lose them. i'm on the lower end numbers-wise and have only
 had to
 make the decision twice as an adult (family pets when i was a kid were
 mom's
 decisions) and each time i've learned more about the grace our friends walk
 in
 and how they have NO baggage about death and dying - it simply is - and how
 much
 i still have to learn.
 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito


 My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely
 living his
 life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile.

 - Anonymous




 
 From: Michelle Brockman teals...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 1:12:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc.


 Natalie, what is this group and how do you find out how to make this
 tea/balm?
 One of my cats has squamous cell on his nose. I give him C-Caps herbal
 cancer
 pills, Vetri DMG, Reishi mushroom blend and fish oil capsules everyday. The
 inflamation seems to be getting better but his nose is a bloody scabby
 mess. =(



 Michelle Brockman
 It is when we forget ourselves that we do the things which will be
 remembered






  Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:34:28 -0400
  From: at...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc.
 
  Might you consider making and administering an herbal tonic/tea made of
  Graviola, Chaparral, Andreographis, and Neem? In a Google group, which is
  really for people who are interested in alternative cancer treatments,
 many
  have been using the tonic internally and a black salve externally on
 tumors
  (or both), even terminal squamous cell on a cat's face and jaw right now,
  many have been using it on their animals: Horses, dogs, cats, rabbits for
  all types if cancer, often very successfully. Even when combined with
  traditional things like chemo, it still helps and makes the quality of
 life
  and death a lot better! If interested, you can join the group and while
  treating the animal, advice is given by all membersCats do not
 tolerate
  it well because one of the herbs causes them to froth at the mouth,
 however,
  I have discovered a food mixture which a cat that I treated recently,
  absolutely devoured! Natalie
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Weese
  Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 6:10 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Lymphoma/Brain Inflammation, etc.
 
 
  My 10+ yo cat, Vixen, now has FeLV+ spinal fluid and brain inflammation
  which is causing head bobbing and weakness/uncoordination

Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie - Please add to CLS

2010-08-23 Thread Barb Moermond
GLOW to light his path and ease your heart.
 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito


My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 

- Anonymous





From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 4:11:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie - Please add to CLS

What a blessed little kitty. It sounds like you enhanced each other's lives. 
Bless you for giving him such a loving  happy home when others were going to 
give up on him.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Mon, 8/23/10, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Wolfie - Please add to CLS
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 3:30 PM

Wolfie left us today after a long battle with leukemia.  I took him in 6 years 
ago after he was found in a pole barn and was going to be put to sleep after 
testing positive.  I still remember going to see him for the first time.  He 
had 
cuts under his eyes and looked so sad.  I couldn't possibly resist even though 
my husband is horribly allergic to cats.  Wolfie thrived in our home and was a 
joy to live with for the past 6 years.  The horrible sores under his eyes went 
away and he grew to be one of my biggest boys.  He was always a momma's boy and 
spent hours and hours on my chest purring and kneading daily.  Even when I was 
pregnant, he spent every night on my belly.  He was the most opinionated cat 
I've ever had and he insisted on his way at all times but it was an honor to 
know him.  


He was diagnosed with non-regenerative anemia on my b-day last year and has 
graced me with almost another year to enjoy him.  I'm so grateful for that time 
with him.  He has fought for the last year with such strength, courage and 
amazing determination.  However, he decided today was the end of the fight.  I 
wouldn't expect anything less from him.  My favorite number is 23 (hence my 
e-mail address awilkins23) and while it's a sad day, I'm glad that I will think 
of Wolfie with wonderful memories every time I see that number.

Thanks for all the advice and support that I've been given while trying to help 
Wolfie beat this disease.

Amy


  

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Re: [Felvtalk] cat litter

2010-08-09 Thread Barb Moermond
$10?!?!?!?!?!?!?!  I stopped using it because a 17lb back was over $20 - even 
with a break - holy frijoles

i really loved it though - it's much better than swheat scoop because it 
doesn't 
turn into sticky cement
 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito


My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 

- Anonymous





From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 9:50:44 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] cat litter

hello everyone,

just found a great new litter called World's Best Cat Litter.  i found it at 
Tractor Supply in Troy, Mo., but they are starting to sell through  PetsMart 
and 
PetCo.  it comes in 3 diferent sizes.  it is great, a 17 lb bag costs $10.00 
and 
it lasts longer than clay litter.  best of all, it is gound up corn so it is 
biodegradeable, light weight compared to clay, clumps really good (even Dee 
can't break up the clumps), doesn't smell and lasts longer because you can get 
out whole clumps and don't waste as much.  i called them and they sent me a 
$3.00 coupon.  also sent me to Smart Source.com where i got another $3.00 
coupon.  they started out in New York area and now are spreading across the 
country.  i live in the country so i just made another compost pile for the cat 
litter.  even if you are in the city and cannot have compost piles, when it 
gets 
to the landfil, it will break down and not hurt the environment. 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7

2010-07-08 Thread Barb Moermond
Here is some good information on FeLV and testing.  The IFA is a different type 
of test.

http://www.marleyfund.com/testing.aspx#selection
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My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 

- Anonymous





From: Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 10:35:22 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7

Dear Sharyl, Barb, Natalie and all

Thank you.

She has non-regenerative anemia. Yesterday she started receiving the EPO,
and this morning we were able to find a compatible cat to make a
transfusion. Nevertheless, the blood count hasn't improved. If she lives a
few more days, the EPO might work for her.

Barb, IFA? Iron Folic Acid? for supplement? Please tell me more

Natalie, thanks for your vet answer. At this point, I'd rather risk with the
EPO, since she doesn't have much chances.

Thank you all.

Best wishes,
Ana
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Re: [Felvtalk] Beltza 2009-2010

2010-07-08 Thread Barb Moermond
I'm so sorry.  GLOW to light her path and ease your heart.
You will remember her and what you have learned from having her in your life 
forever.
 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito


My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 

- Anonymous





From: Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 2:06:29 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Beltza 2009-2010

Dear all,

Thanks for being so supportive.

Beltza left this morning. Fortunately, I spend all yesterdays afternoon with
her, and had a chance to say good-bye.

I'll miss her my whole life.

Ana
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Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Beltza and myself

2010-07-06 Thread Barb Moermond
With a positive Elisa test, the next testing step would be IFA, if that's 
available.  This usually gets sent to a lab.  
It does sound like the next treatment step would be a transfusion.
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his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 11:06:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Beltza and myself

Dear Ana,
Are you sure that it's FeLV and not just regular leukemia? I have had both,
but never at the same time in one cat.  But that's just my experience.
I will forward this to my vet and see what he says, OK?
Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ana Gutierrez
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 11:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Beltza and myself

 Hi,


I am new to the mailing list.


I live in México and I am studying my PhD in microbiology, bioinformatics
and genomic sciences -- in case I can be of any help.


My cat, Beltza was recently diagnosed (last Saturday)as FeLV+ and the blood
count show almost no red blood cells. The best vet I have found in my town
is attending her, she is staying with him at his hospital.
He told me he had ordered erythropoeitin to treat her anemia, as it was the
first thing to resolve for her. I read an article about how cats express
antibodies against human and hence cat hormone. I am terryfied. I will ask
him not to use the hormone, but I don't know which is the treatment to use.
Do you know which is the correct treatment for anemia?

She has all the symptoms for anemia (her tongue is white) and that is the
reason of her staying at the vet hospital. She refuses to eat, she has
lost 4 pounds now, please help me I don't want her to die.

I rescued her from the streets last November, she was six months old and she
was pregnant, malnourished, she had a broken rib, a broken tooth, and her
whiskers were burned. I ask the vet for an abortion since there are too much
homeless kitties in this world, and to spayed her. She was fully recovered
and so gorgeous, until last month... when a dog bit her, and then a spider (
*Loxosceles reclusa*) bit her, the tissue was in necrosis, so a surgery was
needed to prevent a higher necrosis. I believe that all these, plus the
stress, plus the antibiotics, analgesics and anesthesia is the reason for
her viral and anemial crisis.

I hope you guys know how to treat her anemia, any help will be greatly
appreciatted. I want her back home.


Thanks in advance,
Ana
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to the FELV+ kitty group

2010-04-13 Thread Barb Moermond
Here's the link for the American Association of Feline Practitioners:
http://www.catvets.com/

If nothing else, this will give you a compact list of places to call with 
questions.  The search function is pretty good:)
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his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous





From: Stacy Zacher stacy_zac...@yahoo.com
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 4:26:05 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to the FELV+ kitty group

Hi:




We are new to the group. My (approximately) 13 year old male kitty has
been diagnosed with FELV via a SNAP test.  I found him as a stray when he was 
about age
1-2 and I did have him tested then. The test came back negative and I
proceeded to vaccinate him for FELV with yearly boosters as at the
time he was a semi-outdoor still. I don't recall if my vet had me do a
second test or not so I am rather surprised and shocked that he has
tested positive now but I've read it can happen. We have a bloodwork re-check 
tomorrow and the IFA test at the vet. 



We've been to an internal medicine specialist  for
a second  opinion on how we can manage this disease and keep him comfortable. 
This
showed up because his white blood cell count
has been abnormally low ever since we moved from one side our townhouse
to the other (Feb 2010) and he has been very stressed out ever since the move.
He was vomiting a lot in the recent past and I took him in again for testing.
The vet this time tested him for the FELV, FIV etc. His attitude seemed
inconsolable at times and he seemed to howl a lot and vocalize a lot as
though he is having issues or pain. But he runs up and down the stairs
with ease, jumps on to counters still and plays a bit but is less
active than he was in January. 




Any advice is greatly appreciated as far as best diet (he currently eats 
wellness canned and assorted other canned but only seems to like fish flavors 
now!  He eats Tasted of the Wild Dry salmon flavor as well).  




At the moment I've started him on Standard PRocess feline immune
support supplements. The vet put him on metronidazole in case he has bacterial 
overgrowth in his intestines and reglan for nausea/vomiting.  He seems to do 
well for about 4 days off reglan, then starts vomiting food again in the 
morning.   He is eating/drinking/ urinating/ defecating okay and seems to be 
howling less on the meds.

I am looking for advice on treatments, immunotherapies etc. - both conventional 
and holistic.  


I've heard from others that immunoregulin works as does Imulan LTCI. I'd love 
to hear what helps your kitties.If you know of any vets in Wisconsin in the 
Milwaukee county/Waukesha/ Jefferson County areas who specialize in FELV+ 
kitties, please let me know also. 


There is a great vet in Madison but that is a ways to drive for us in his 
state.  

Thanks so much for all your help. 


Stacy and Spanky in Wisconsin


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper

2010-04-07 Thread Barb Moermond
Sue, I'm so sorry.  I'm glad you were able to let him pass at home on his own 
and that the sib-kits were all there.  GLOW to light his path and ease your 
heart.
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My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous





From: Frank  Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com
To: FeLV talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 7:28:57 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper

I am heartbroken to say that this afternoon my sweet Casper lost his battle.  
He was one of the most sweet tempered cats I have ever known.  He never ever 
bit or clawed anyone in anger, not for any reason. 

He used to come to bed and make bread in the middle of the night right into my 
stomach until I got in the habit of sleeping while holding his paws gently in 
my hands. 

He loved nothing more then to be brushed with an old blue hairbrush.  In the 
middle of the night last night I was spending what I was pretty sure was my 
last few hours with him brushing him with it.  He was still pushing against it 
with the sides of his face and purring.  This morning when I left for work I 
told him goodbye and thanked him for coming to live with me and being such a 
special kitty.  My mother in law sat with him today and he passed around 2:30.  
She told me the rest of the cats in the house came and sat in a circle around 
him, almost like a vigil.  Orlando has slept near him for the last several days 
and through the night. 

I hope now Casper is in a place where there is no more feline leukemia and he 
can run free and watch the birds and chipmunks all he wants.  Whenever I lose 
one of these sweet kitties they take a piece of my heart.
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Re: [Felvtalk] RIP Brillo and Desmond

2010-03-24 Thread Barb Moermond
I am so sorry - GLOW to light their path and ease your heart.  
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From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 3:01:20 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] RIP Brillo and Desmond

Both of my beautiful baby boys, Brillo and Desmond joined their brother Nibbler 
in heaven today.
My heart is broken.  They will be missed more then words can describe.


  


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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget has sent me another cat

2010-03-20 Thread Barb Moermond
that is absolutely marvelous!  Bandit played a big role in my selection of 
Lilly as a new companion for Smoky - she channels him on a regular basis :)
i'm very very happy for both of you!
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From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 6:25:23 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget has sent me another cat

First, thank you everyone for all your kindness and support over Bridget's 
passing. I appreciate it so much. But she's sent me another FeLV+ friend to 
help! On the evening of 3/17, the day she died, I checked the adoptable 
positives section of the website. Lo and behold, someone in GA had posted an 
available kitty just the day before. I never, ever check those postings, ever, 
but I figured the best way to honor Bridget, Baby Girl, Frosty Paws and the 
rest would be to take in another needy baby. These kind people had found this 
little girl in their neighborhood, but couldn't keep her due to the wife's 
allergies. They'd been boarding her at their vet's office for 5 weeks but 
hadn't been able to find her a home. Anyway, they brought me the cat yesterday, 
and she's just wonderful...still a little nervous around my big boys, but 
she'll be fine. Maybe this was meant to be.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead

2010-03-17 Thread Barb Moermond
Oh Laura, I am so sorry.  I highly doubt that the LTCI was a contributing 
factor, but I'm not a vet.  Some kitties' bodies just can't handle those drugs 
and she might have had an underlying problem with her heart that contributed.  
I firmly believe that you did NOT kill Bridget; you are a fabulous meowmie and 
gave her love and help others wouldn't have.  She slipped away peacefully, 
unaware and that isn't a bad thing; sometimes we can't give our furkids a 
peaceful passing.

{{{Laura
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From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 3:45:50 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead

Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly 
under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now 
she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby 
Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been 
the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if 
anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe 
made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know 
whether I killed my cat.
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Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations

2010-03-03 Thread Barb Moermond
My clinic switched to the Purevax a few years ago because they'd been getting a 
LOT of reactions to the 3 year shot.
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From: lernermiche...@aol.com lernermiche...@aol.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 12:25:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations

PureVax makes a rabies vaccine with no adjuvant. That is what I get my cats. 
It's more expensive and it lasts only one year instead of 3, but is supposed to 
have no risk of vaccine-associated sarcoma so I think it is worth it.

I only revaccinate yearly because my town has cat licensing AND I am well-known 
to (and disliked by) the animal control officer because I got a TNR ordinance 
passed and run a TNR group. So I go by the book when it comes to my town's 
licensing ordinance in order to avoid any problems! I personally do not think 
cats need rabies updates on the schedule that is required by law, especially if 
they are indoor cats. Challenge studies have shown even one rabies vaccination 
to often last 4 years (without boostering). But I follow the law in my town, 
and try to mitigate any negative effects by only using PureVax.

PureVax also makes an adjuvant free FeLV vaccine-- that one does not even use a 
needle! It's an air gun of some kind. It makes a little popping noise and 
pushes the vaccine under the skin. When I had positives, I got it for my one 
negative every year, even though I kept them separated, just in case. After my 
last positive died I stopped getting him FeLV vaccine because he stays inside.

Michelle
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Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: vaccination questions

2010-03-03 Thread Barb Moermond
Both of my babies are due for check-ups and I had them run estimates on titres 
and shots etc.  I personally believe that vaccinations should be reserved for 
when they're needed medically.  I have signed legal waivers in the past to 
forgo the rabies shots for my boys.  But when cost is an issue, things get 
complicated.

current prices @ my clinic:

FVRCP and rabies are each $22

The titre test for panleuk runs $47.50 (venipuncture charge here is $21.24, but 
they're pulling blood for the CBCs etc, so it's a wash).

The titre test for rabies? $130
 
It really really really bothers me that the medically reasonable course is over 
five times the cost
so while i really believe that a titre before a vaccination is the way to go, i 
simply can't afford it right now (we're condo-shopping).  and i certainly can't 
do what i used to and take both kits in at the same time for check-ups!


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From: Avia Rauscher a...@rauscher.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 1:40:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject:  vaccination questions

You can have titre tests done to check the level of antibody in the cat's 
system. I would say just forgo the vaccinations and/or titres if you are sure 
that the cat won't be hospitalized or boarded. Many vet hospitals and boarding 
facilities will not allow an animal to be admitted without proof of 
vaccination. While a certificate from your vet may get you past any state laws 
(like in NY) that require rabies vaccination, vet hospitals and boarding 
facilities are breeding grounds for germs and your kitty may end up exposed and 
unprotected. My vet pointed this out to me when I brought Horus (who has 
asthma)  Blackie in for their annuals and questioned annual vaccinations.

Avia


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Re: [Felvtalk] Lyttle Guy passed away

2010-01-25 Thread Barb Moermond
I'm so sorry.  GLOW to light his path and ease your heart.
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From: James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 4:37:03 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lyttle Guy passed away

Lyttle Guy passed away in my arms at 4:18am this 
morning. He had series of seizures and then gasped his 
last breath. He was truly loved and shall be dearly 
missed

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
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Re: [Felvtalk] spastic pupil syndrome

2010-01-06 Thread Barb Moermond
Kerry,
if you check the archives, you'll find that there have been a number of kitties 
on list with pupils that had variable dilation.  If memory serves, most of 
those kitties had normal or low ocular pressure (including my Ninja) and so the 
variations seemed to be neurological in nature.  One day the left would be 
dilated larger than the right and the next day it'd be opposite.  Or not.  
Sometimes there would be what is called a 'reverse D' pupil where only one side 
dilated and it looked like an upper case D in a mirror.  With elevated ocular 
pressure, I would definitely have kitty seen by an ophthalmologist.
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his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
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From: Kerry MacKenzie kerrymacken...@ymail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 2:06:31 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] spastic pupil syndrome

Dear all, I wanted to ask if anyone has any experience of spastic pupil 
syndrome in leukemia kitts and if you've heard of any treatment for it.  Any 
info would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Kerry M.


  
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[Felvtalk] seasons greetings!!!

2009-12-29 Thread Barb Moermond
http://www.dmns.org/holiday-greeting Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito


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Re: [Felvtalk] OT:help w/post traumatic stress in cat?

2009-12-07 Thread Barb Moermond
Tamara,
I'm forwarding this individually to Mari as I know she has experience with 
this.  She's on the list, but I think on digest and I want to make sure she 
sees this.
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From: tamara stickler tlstick...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 10:37:33 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] OT:help w/post traumatic stress in cat?

Hello all,
 
This is off-topic, and for that I apologize, but I figured with all the cat 
care-giving/rescuing experience of the people on this list, perhaps someone 
would have an answer for me.
 
I took in stray tabby about 3 years ago.  Had him neutered and vetted.  He 
had/has many issues including being prone to kidney crystals and infections 
-which I think we have under control at the moment w/ cranberry powder additive 
to his food.  He used to be very aggressive towards other cats (something for 
which my other cat still hasn't completely forgiven him for) and he truly 
believes himself to be a dog.  He has no fear at ALL of people, cats or 
canines, -fetches toys, heels, comes when called and will go into his crate if 
you just mention it...(something even my DOG REFUSES to do!).  But..there is 
one major obstacle to completely incorporating him into the household: he has 
night terrors.
 
Because of his past aggression, he's separated in his own room whenever I'm not 
home  at night, but I have been trying to get to the point where he can be 
allowed to sleep with us.  Unfortunately, he has incredible nightmares where he 
BOLTS INTO THE AIR (we're talking sometimes 2-3 feet HIGH) from a dead sleep 
and FLEES until he hits something - usually a wall or piece of furniture- hard 
enough to wake him up.  Then he sits all hunched up and blinking for a few 
minutes.  If I go to him he immediately starts to purr and rolls over for a 
belly rub - only after head-butting me a few dozen times.
 
I've had him to the vet thinking he was having painful spasms or something.  
All she could find were old injuries that looked like a car accident may have 
hit him in the hip area (all healed - he moves fine) and what appear to be 3 
bebes still lodged in the back of his neck and shoulder area.  She doesn't 
think they would be the cause of pain now...but both injuries tell something of 
the first year or two of his life.
 
I've tried feline pheromones ...he still has the episodes.  
 
As much as I hate putting him in a room by himself at night, while the cat and 
dog and I share a bedwhen he freaks out at night- it sets off a chain 
reaction of the other cat going all hissy-spazzy and the dog barking and 
chasing one or both around the condo until he fully wakes up and calms down 
(I'm surprised my neighbors haven't complained yet!).  (Not to mentionI've 
gotten kicked in the eye and face time and again as one or more of the animals 
flee from the shock of Mica's night terrors.
 
Has anyone EVER experienced something like this that's on-going?
 
Does anyone have ANY suggestions other than time?  (He's been an indoor only 
cat for 3 years nowand while the dreams do seem to be getting lessat 
the current rate- he'll have to live well into his thirties until they are 
gone...-I'm not certain I could survive that! ;-)
 
Thanks,
Tamara, Tobias (yorkie), Coebeio (calico), Micatullyvhim (grey tabby)


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Nibbler Has Gone On - Please Add To CLS

2009-11-25 Thread Barb Moermond
I'm so sorry, but so glad that you loved him and were able to give him a 
peaceful passing.
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- Anonymous





From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 12:37:11 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Nibbler Has Gone On - Please Add To CLS

Just wanted to let everyone know we had to let Nibbler go today.
It was the hardest thing I have ever done.
I'm not sure how I am going to get used to him not greeting me every morning 
and getting to say goodnight to him in front of the fireplace.

Thanks everyone that has helped with my questions about him.
Crystal


  

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Re: [Felvtalk] scratchy meow

2009-11-24 Thread Barb Moermond
sounds like heat to me - Lilly's voice was different that week - oy, and what a 
week, poor Smoky! They're calling for male company and it's a different type of 
call and voice.
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From: Tracy McLendon tracymclen...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 3:36:55 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] scratchy meow

Hello!  I am new here!  I have a 1 1/2 year old blind FLV cat.  Two
days ago, she started to have an odd scratchy sounding meow.  She also
went into heat about the same time.  She is eating and playing
normally.  Her meow just suddenly changed and sounds raspy, almost
like a parrot.

This is my first experience with a FLV cat.  She is not on any type of
vitamins, she is just like all the other cats, until she started with
this weird meow.  When she went in originally for her eye enucleation,
the vet just said she would be more susceptible to infections and that
she would not live long.

Can someone help me?  Any other signs I should look for?  She seems
normal otherwise but I am such a hyphochondriac for myself and my
animals!  I just want to know if anyone else has experienced meow
changes

Thanks in advance!

-- 
Tracy

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Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list

2009-09-18 Thread Barb Moermond
got it - hopefully things are quiet for everyone
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From: James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:20:40 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list

Hey all, 

I'm just testing the list since there hasn't been any activity 
since Monday. I hope no news is good news for everyone 
here. Please let me know if you're having any problems 
with the list. I'm always happy to assist. Best wishes to all.

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
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Re: [Felvtalk] Need some help or suggestions in Wisconsin

2009-09-04 Thread Barb Moermond
have you contacted Angel's Wish or Dane County Friends of Ferals?

http://angelswish.org/index.html
http://www.daneferals.org/



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From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 3:55:39 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Need some help or suggestions in Wisconsin

I am in Spring Green, WI, just about 30 miles NW of Madison  am trying to find 
a home or foster for a lovely FeLV kitty in Madison. She is currently living on 
a screened porch of a very nice woman who unfortunately is not only allergic 
but has 2 nasty dogs in the back year.  We need to get a foster or home asap as 
the weather here is already turning cold at night.  She is perfectly healthy  
very friendly.   Just needs a home  someone to love her.

Can someone help?

Pam

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Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

2009-08-25 Thread Barb Moermond
yay!!!

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From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:57:32 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update:  Snowball has made it to Reno

Just wanted to update everyone.  Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has 
made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada.  Just got a voicemail from 
Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you 
would think he had always lived there.  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 14, Issue 11

2009-08-11 Thread Barb Moermond
they should have eye exams to rule out ocular pressure problems etc, but my 
Ninja had weird uneven dilation issues that didn't seem to have any cause or 
underlying health problem, just funny eyes

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From: Claire Smith sassybean...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:29:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 14, Issue 11




I have a question - not sure how to submit it. I have 2 cats who are feline 
leukemia positive. From outward appearances, they look and basically act 
healthy. One of them has started having a dilated pupil - it is not constant 
but it has been occuring a lot lately. She will also start panting and 
breathing heavy - I have central air and keep it on all the time.The last time 
she did this, it was actually very cool in her room. 
The other one had seizures one day several months ago - that was the one and 
only time that occured. But several months ago, his 3rd eyelid (on both eyes) 
started staying out. He can still see but not too well. 
 
Is there anything I need to do or is this just part of the disease? There are 
no other symptoms for either one of them at this time. 
 
Claire


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed

2009-05-12 Thread Barb Moermond
I'm so sorry - GLOW to light his path and ease your heart.

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- Anonymous





From: Amy Dalgliesh ajdalgli...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:58:34 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed

My Zman lost his fight today.  He is my 6th in the past 9 months.  I know that 
it is to be expected when you take in sickly street kids, but it doesn't help 
with the pain of losing any one of these wonderful creatures.  .
 
Zuckerman was a 2 week old kitten with a horrible URI when I found him.  He 
quickly became a momma's boy, going to work with me during the day and holding 
paws through the carrier door at night.
 
Once old enough to graduate from the carrier, he became quite the snuggler, 
curling up at my neck during the night.  He loved to suckle earlobes and would 
launch himself off a piece of furniture onto any unsuspecting person who 
happened by in order to attach himself to one.  I told him that he would have 
to stop because we couldn't have a 12 pound adult catapulting himself onto 
everyone.  Guess I don't have to worry about that now, he was only 8 months old 
and less than 4 pounds at the end.  
 
We were holding paws when he left.
 
It's been said before by all of us and unfortunately I know it will be said 
many more times, but I hate this freaking disease.


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlotte to the CLS

2009-05-06 Thread Barb Moermond
GLOW to light her path and ease your heart...

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From: Laura Mostello hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 11:51:19 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlotte to the CLS


Charlotte has just passed away.
I came home from work, went into her room and she was lying on her side, crying 
and breathing heavily. I ran and let my dogs out, came back to her and held her 
for what turned out to be about 4 hours. She gradually slowed down, but was 
responding to my voice for quite a while. Eventually that stopped and I knew 
she was probably unconscious. She passed at the stroke of midnight, and I know 
it sounds crazy, but I immediately felt so calm - I can only explain it by 
saying that as soon as she died I physically felt her suffering end. It was so 
strange. I am sitting here crying as I write this even though I know it's 
better and she won't be in pain any more. But she'd been doing so well and 
eating like a pig. Just this morning she was stuffing her face with chicken. So 
I thought that maybe I could have her with me for just a while longer, and just 
maybe she'd be one who survived despite the odds. Guess I was wrong. I hate 
this disease.
Thanks everyone for all your help.
Laura

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Re: [Felvtalk] B. B. died - please add to the Candlelight service (do we still have one?)

2008-12-03 Thread Barb Moermond
B.B. was lucky to have you find him.  GLOW to light his path and ease your 
heart

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From: Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 2:16:05 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] B. B. died - please add to the Candlelight service (do we 
still have one?)

One of my FELV kitties, B.B., died in the early morning of Dec 2,  
2008, and I'd love to have him added to the Bridge list.  He was a  
double positive (FELV+, FIV+), had been found at a local dump in the  
Little Rock vicinity, and taken in to our rescue.  I've fostered him  
since October 2006, and he's been such a sweet, loving cat.  But he  
developed a tail infection a while back, and we've been dealing with  
that ever since.  He alway ate like a horse, till the last couple of  
days.

He never could gain weight or pull out of the illness, he may have had  
other things going on, I'm not sure.

B.B., who I think stands for Beautiful Boy, crossed over to the Bridge  
early yesterday morning, Tuesday December 2, 2008. He was a sweet boy.

Gloria

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Re: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone....

2008-11-10 Thread Barb Moermond
bless you for taking him in, you changed the world for him and that is a 
powerful thing -  he sounds delightful:)  GLOW to light his path and ease your 
heart...

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his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:37:28 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone

It is with a very heavy heart that I tell you that I lost my Romeo today to
lymphoma.  I write not out of grief but to encourage all the newbies who
wonder whether they can hang on with a FELV positive, whether they know
enough to take care of them, whether they should mix, etc.  And the
resounding answer is YES YES YES.  My Romeo was a throw away stray that I
first met 7+ years ago when I helped someone out feeding a little colony
near me.  He was already an adult (3-4 years old) who would come running
across the field when I’d whistle and meow the whole way so I wouldn’t miss
him.  He would get underfoot, get bullied by the other cats, bury
everybody’s food, and just rub up against my leg for some loving.  I knew
someone had been unkind to him cause if I raised my hand, he’d scamper away,
just out of reach, cowering.  



Fast forward two years and we had one of the coldest NY winters we’ve had in
a long time.  One weekend, we were expecting zero degree temps and a major
snowstorm.  Romeo was the last of the colony and I knew I had to bring him
in.  I even had an adoptive home ready—but he turned out to be positive and
they couldn’t handle it.  Soo, he stayed in my room for a few weeks,
watching my every move, figuring out the TV and the vacuum cleaner weren’t
that bad.  Slowly, he started coming out of his crate at night when he
thought I was asleep.  Little baby steps—first the food dish got moved next
to his crate.  Then the litter box in the bathroom.  And slowly, he’d come
out during the day.  I knew we won the battle when I peeked out over my
monitor to spot him on my bed.  You could see it in his face—this is
niiice and from that point on, he was totally
comfortable being in and around we humans.  Funny thing is that he never
really wanted to get out—he rarely sat at the window—the couch and the bed
were always much more comfortable for him!



Over these last 4 ½ years, Romeo turned into the most loving cat you’d ever
want to meet.  Only thing I could never do was pick him up or restrain him
in any way---he was just too scared.  But he’d jump up on me, lie on my
chest as I was trying to get to sleep, follow me around like a puppy dog and
otherwise just kept thanking all the humans he met for being safe and warm
and loved.  My other cats were a bit leary of him and Tucson never did take
much of a liking to him—all jealousy, I’m sure.  But Romeo persevered and
the two of them had come to terms with each other...



His final illness took him quickly.  He’d never been real sick before—had
some gum and teeth problems a couple of times, but that was it.  Going to
the vet was a major trauma for him so I’d always worked with my wonderful
vet to keep those visits to a bare minimum.  But today was one of those days
that I knew he had to get to the vet asap.  He’d been feeling poorly during
the week and over the weekend, he started breathing very hard—like he
couldn’t catch his breath.  He’d been on antibiotics for what I thought was
another gum problem but when we got to the vet, I knew it was a whole lot
more.  My vet sent me immediately to our local specialty hospital and they
confirmed the lymphoma.  He had a large mass in his chest, his lungs had
filled up with fluid, and I knew that emotionally and physically, he could
never withstand an aggressive course of treatment that in all likelihood
would only give him a short extension of his life.  So, I made that decision
we all dread after I looked in his eyes and knew he was telling me it was
time.  I stroked him to the end and told him I loved him.



And do I regret taking him in—ABSOLUTELY NOT.  He gave me so many wonderful
memories and he will always be in my heart.  And did he regret coming
inside—ABSOLUTELY NOT—he had almost 5 years of a wonderful life and I know
that had he stayed out, he would have died a miserable death from the cold
and hunger or an infection and he would have been alone.  We can’t save them
forever—but we can give them some wonderful time and we can all learn so
very much about life from these little guys.  



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Re: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

2008-08-20 Thread Barb Moermond
I'm so sorry - GLOW to light his path and ease your heart.

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- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Laura Mostello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:32:24 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

Sadly, I had to have Duncan euthanized last night. He was suffering from a URI 
and getting Clavamox, and the URI was clearing up, but he was still sluggish. 
On Sunday night he seemed disoriented, and was crying as if he was in a lot of 
pain. I rushed him to the emergency vet and then to my regular vet Monday 
morning. The vet called me at 5:30 as I was driving home from work to get 
Duncan's food and told me that he thought Duncan was very close to dying. Test 
results had showed Hemobartonella and he was fading fast. We talked about 
possible treatments but Dr Leathers felt that it would be best, and kindest, to 
put him down. 
He deteriorated so quickly - just a couple of days ago he was eating and 
walking around. Unfortunately, I assumed he just wasn't 100% because of the 
URI. I will not make that mistake again. He has never shown any symptoms in the 
year that I've had him. My other two positives, who lived with him, are fine, 
but I'm going to have them checked out at the vet next week.
I lost my 18 year old cat last Monday so this hasn't been a very good past 
couple of weeks for me. 
Laura

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Re: [Felvtalk] Seizures?

2008-08-15 Thread Barb Moermond
you wouldn't substitute the pheno w/steroids, but it all depends on the cause 
of the seizures.  my Ninja had seizures that started out once every few weeks 
and ended up being 5-7 a day - I spoke with several vets and we started her on 
prednisone under the supposition that my positive kitty had a brain tumor 
(meningioma) and that controlled them beautifully - we couldn't taper the 
dosage down tho, as is usual w/steroids, as the seizures would return.  she did 
great on just the pred for controlling them for about 2.5-3 mos and then we 
needed to add pheno to the mix - but her last 2 months were seizure free - 
intestinal lymphoma ended up being her end.

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- Anonymous



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Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 5:16:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Seizures?

Hi,

I don't think you could substitute steroids for phenobarbital as steroids don't 
have a sedating effect, more of an anti-inflammatory effect. I know valium is 
sometimes prescribed in addition to phenobarbital for seizures. We were so 
fortunate to find a great veterinary neurologist for our cat. The first two 
vets we went to said to euthanize the cat but I refused to and I searched out 
the neurologist and he acted like the seizures weren't such a huge deal. I love 
him! 

Please let us know what you find out when you get the lab results. You may 
actually have a physically healthy cat that just needs time to recover from 
psychological distress. Prozac may be helpful to him.

Michele
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Re: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design

2008-07-16 Thread Barb Moermond
James and Belinda: you rock!
:)

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- Original Message 
From: James G Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:12:54 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design

Hey all,

I've finally gotten around to updating our FeLV website 
(with Belinda's help). You can check it out at: 
http://www.felineleukemia.org  
I hope that it is easier to read and loads a bit faster. If 
anyone wishes to help update the content of the site, 
please let me and/or Belinda know privately. Reluctantly, 
I've added a donations page to the site to help offset my 
out-of-pocket costs for maintaining the site. Best wishes.

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http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page)

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Re: I must be nuts!

2008-06-24 Thread Barb Moermond
I'm so happy for you two!  We never know how long our little friends are going 
to be with us, so I don't think you're nuts.
 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito


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life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
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Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:06:59 AM
Subject: I must be nuts!

Hi Everyone!
Saturday I went to a local cat rescue home and adopted a beautiful 16lb. flame 
point siamese boy.  He is 10 years old and FeLV+.  
I have been missing my cuddler, Tucker, so much that I just wanted another 
loveable lap cat kitty.  There were over 200 cats in that home but when I 
picked up Orlando it was all over.  He just snuggled right in.  His previous 
owner passed away in January.  She had a lot of acreage, a couple of barns and 
a shop where she made signs.  She had 17 cats who roamed the place and were 
never let inside or given vet care.  When she passed away her husband brought 
all the cats to this rescue and several were FeLV+.  Ironically, that was about 
the time Buzz was diagnosed and I was still trying to find a home for him.  
When I called this rescue they told me that they had just taken in several 
positives and did not have room.  If someone had told me then that I would be 
taking one of the positives I never would have believed them. 
Anyway, Orlando is a very special sweetheart of a cat.  He is even getting 
along fairly well with the other 5.  Yesterday I had him to the vets and they 
found that he had once had a broken leg that was never taken care of and healed 
wrong. (I knew his back right leg was stiff).  Time will tell if that is 
something to take care of now or not.  They also re-confirmed the FeLV+.  
Anyway I am getting way too long winded.  
Thanks for listening to me ramble,
Sue

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Re: looking for advice re kitty prozac

2008-06-23 Thread Barb Moermond
was the foaming during or immediately after pilling?  gelcaps and a pill gun 
could fix that - I don't know about the other forms ssri's come in (fluoxetine 
is an ssri) e.g. pill, capsule, injection etc

 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito


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life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



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Subject: looking for advice re kitty prozac


Dear all
Has anyone ever used a kitty Prozac such as fluoxetine? One of my co-workers 
whose cat has always been a sprayer--and she's had him for YEARS, kudos to 
her---was thrilled when 1/2 tab fluoxetine daily fixed the behavior almost 
immediately. Unfortunately he began foaming at the mouth at the same time, so 
she stopped using it after a few days.
Does anyone have any experience in using an alternative prozac that worked 
for spraying without causing foaming or other adverse side-effects. She says 
she's going to the vet to ask about a different one after she returns from 
vacation, and I thought I'd try picking your brains before she went. I think 
it's wonderful that--unlike so many people--she's committed to her cat despite 
his spraying.
I have a sprayer too, but he's feral, so there's nothing I can use (he's not 
into any sort of treat on a regular basis, and he turned his nose up at 
Pillpockets) apart from a dividing line between him and the cause of his 
behavior, my other cats. He has his own loyal buddy, a female, Momcat, so he's 
pretty content on the whole, I think.
Anyway, thanks for any other prozac ideas!
Kerry 
 

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Re: my poor snowy

2008-04-28 Thread Barb Moermond
my vets check paws - they have a different check sheet for exams as they only 
do cats
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito



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Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 8:16:26 PM
Subject: Re: my poor snowy


Poor little Snowy.  Don't worry she'll forgive you by tomorrow.  You are right, 
getting her little paw healed up is far more important than the spaying.  It is 
in a cat's genes to not show pain or illness.  
 
Here is a link to a Physical Exam Check List.
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=AA=292S=2
Notice they don't have a section for legs/paws.  I wonder how many vets ever 
even look at a kitty's paws.  
 
Give her a special treat tonight.
Sharyl   

Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well I won't be taking Snowy in for spaying this coming week.  I went to clip 
her nails tonight and noticed that there was a big lump on her right paw.  When 
I touched it she meowed so I got her into the emergency vet.  They told me I 
did nothing wrong that this had happened to her over a very long period of 
time.  Her nail had grown into her skin, along with hair and they had to put 
her under and remove it.  It had grown far into her pad and couldn't be removed 
easily.  I don't get this.  She had seen 2 vets prior to our getting her and no 
one noticed this.  Now the poor little thing has to be on antibiotics 
(Clindamycin) and wear one of those horrible hood things so she won't lick her 
paw.  She had a piece taken out of it and cauterized.  I am so sorry for what 
this poor little dear has been through in her short life.  I just hope all this 
trauma doesn't cause her herpes virus to resurface.  The first thing the vet 
did when we got her there was to
 squirt eye wash into her eyes and she got all upset.  I kind of yelled at him 
for doing that and asked why.  He said she looks like she has allergies and I 
said she's a persian their eyes tear.  Fortunately there was a very 
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OT - CLS addition....... my Bandit

2008-03-07 Thread Barb Moermond
Bandit and his brother Smoky were the 2 kits I adopted after my FeLV+ kitty 
Ninja went to the Bridge.  Bandit went to the Bridge on Wednesday March 5th, 
with his Momma and brother sitting with him.  He was only 9.5 yrs old...  but 
he's not hurting anymore and I'm sure he and Ninja and Bart will get together 
and scheme to find someone to send to me.
Belinda, Bandit was FeLV-
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
 
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life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
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Re: OT - CLS addition....... my Bandit

2008-03-07 Thread Barb Moermond
my heart is broken, so is my husband's - I don't know what I'm going to do w/o 
my little shadow.  This is the first time my husband has lost a pet - you 
didn't have animals in the house where he's from, so my boys were the first 
time he'd lived with and loved kitties.  I miss my boy so much - we were 
particularly close - he was fine with anything as long as Momma was close.  But 
he was so sick and had lost so much weight and was clearly in pain, even though 
I'd been giving him buprenex.  He was doing that curl-up-in-comfy-sleep-pos'ns, 
but he'd adjust and readjust every couple of minutes and his eyes never closed 
- he was simply waiting.  He passed very quickly, the vet had hardly put away 
the needle and gotten out her stethoscope and he was gone.  You know that 
they're going to go first (most likely) but you never think that time will ever 
actually arrive...
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
 
My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
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Subject: RE: OT - CLS addition... my Bandit


Barb, I'm so sorry. Even though you're putting an awful brave face on it, I 
know how much you must be hurting. I feel like Bandit's part of my extended 
family, he's been around and popping up in your emails for such a long time. 
Hope his mom and Smoky are doing ok. Big hugs and lots of love to you. Kerryxx



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 2:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: OT - CLS addition... my Bandit


Bandit and his brother Smoky were the 2 kits I adopted after my FeLV+ kitty 
Ninja went to the Bridge.  Bandit went to the Bridge on Wednesday March 5th, 
with his Momma and brother sitting with him.  He was only 9.5 yrs old...  but 
he's not hurting anymore and I'm sure he and Ninja and Bart will get together 
and scheme to find someone to send to me.
Belinda, Bandit was FeLV-
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito 
 
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life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
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OT - Candle Service addition

2008-01-04 Thread Barb Moermond
Belinda,
could you please add Bart (FeLV-)?  He was the best friend for over 17 years of 
my best friend Joe Hoopman in Minneapolis.  Their final vet appointment was 
this afternoon - we should all be so lucky to have our furkids live long enough 
that their bodies just wear out.
GLOW to light Bart's path and ease Joe's heart
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito 
My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous




Re: unsubscribing info for Unusually Unique

2007-12-07 Thread Barb Moermond
what they said:)

 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
 
My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



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It is a wonderful group.


On Dec 7, 2007 3:17 PM, Stray Cat Alliance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So true! This group has helped me immensely and I appreciate it so very much.
 
Anita
 



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people.  I've stuck it out and I just ignore the fights that go on on this site 
because I still believe in the greater good- that this list serve can provide 
good and necessary info, despite the recent animosity. 
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Re: Vet Recommendation

2007-11-02 Thread Barb Moermond
I use the Cat Care Clinic here in Madison and LOVE THEM.  They are fabulous.  
One of the vets has had FeLV+ kits of her own (I don't know if she does right 
now) and they are all very open to patient parents' bringing in information 
about potential treatments etc.

here's their website and #/email
http://catcareclinic.net/
608-238-2287
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life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
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Subject: Vet Recommendation


I was wondering if anyone lived in the Far Northern Chicago area or Southern 
Wisconsin area (I live on the border of IL  WI) that knows of a vet that is 
familiar and treats FeLV.
I found a holisitc vet who I am happy with but would like a traditional vet. My 
current one doesn't deal much with FeLV.
I've spoken to a few others and have not been overly comfortable with them. 
Referrals are always best I feel.
 
Thanks
Dawn
 

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Re: Vet Recommendation

2007-11-02 Thread Barb Moermond
here's another thought - look here for vets closer to you - this is the link to 
the American Association of Feline Practitioners

http://www.aafponline.org/
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
 
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life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
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I use the Cat Care Clinic here in Madison and LOVE THEM.  They are fabulous.  
One of the vets has had FeLV+ kits of her own (I don't know if she does right 
now) and they are all very open to patient parents' bringing in information 
about potential treatments etc.
 
here's their website and #/email
http://catcareclinic.net/
608-238-2287
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito 
 
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Subject: Vet Recommendation


I was wondering if anyone lived in the Far Northern Chicago area or Southern 
Wisconsin area (I live on the border of IL  WI) that knows of a vet that is 
familiar and treats FeLV.
I found a holisitc vet who I am happy with but would like a traditional vet. My 
current one doesn't deal much with FeLV.
I've spoken to a few others and have not been overly comfortable with them. 
Referrals are always best I feel.
 
Thanks
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Re: ot-cisapride?

2007-09-28 Thread Barb Moermond
cisapride?  hmm.  it's been taken off the U.S. market for people... 

http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/cisap.htm 
I think lactulose is worth trying - one brand is Enulose - ask about it 
(firmly) 


are you using digestive enzymes?  I sprinkle prozyme on their crunchies and if 
I run out, or hubby forgets, Bandit gets diarrhea - icky...

metamucil sprinkled on his food couldn't hurt either 


Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito 
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his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

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Subject: ot-cisapride?

My cat Bob is still having problems with constipation.  He is still currently 
negative for felv (just retested him last week).  He was positive as a kitten 
in 1992ish.  He then threw the virus, and has lived with 2 positives all his 
life.
   
  He is the one who has had the oxcylate crystals.  As some of you remember my 
vet quit to work on csi cases with aspca, etc  Bob was straining to urinate 
and I took him to the new vet at the clinic who gave him fluids and put him on 
baytril.
   
  After 2 days he seemed worse, and was also constipated.  I called another vet 
and she said that my 'new vet' had not done a culture, and she thought Bob's 
system was messed up by the Baytril.  She did a culture.   It was negative.  
And she took him off the antibiotic.  She gave him fluids, x-rayed for stones 
(none), no crystals, put him on lactulose.
   
 
 Well we finally ended up having to give him an enema.  She has found the start 
of kidney disease, and has me giving him 150 mL of fluids each week.
   
  The constipation is still there!  She had me buy something compounded called 
cisapride to help his GI system.  He won't take it and foams at the mouth and 
spits it out when he does.  I have discontinued it.  Has anyone ever used this 
before?  Same results?
   
  I have changed him to all wet food (royal canin s/o).  I am going to start 
putting pumpkin in it.  Any further suggestions
   
  tonya






Re: Lovey is gone

2007-09-22 Thread Barb Moermond
Janine, I am so so sorry about Lovey and Perry.  GLOW to light their paths and 
ease your heart.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito 
My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: Brenda Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 11:51:52 AM
Subject: Lovey is gone

Hello All,
Thank you for your help the other day.  Lovey was in liver and kidney 
failure.  His liver was 10 times smaller than normal and my vet and I 
both feel it was genetic. He was suffering so I didn't hesitate in 
letting him go. He was a beautiful, wonderful, friend with a personality 
like no other cat I have ever met. I will miss him for a long time. 

It was a tough week, I lost my mom's cat Perry last thursday.  He 
started failing and he went really fast.  We don't know what was wrong 
with him, but the vet was 100% sure there were multiple problems.  Perry 
was a very loving sweet boy, he is also missed. So, that was two friends 
gone in one week.  They were both feline leukemia positive.  Belinda, 
could you add them to the list.  Thank you, Janine









   

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Re: Kaylee is gone

2007-09-11 Thread Barb Moermond
Chris, I am so sorry. GLOW to light Kaylee's path and ease your heart.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
 
My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Chris Behnke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:14:22 PM
Subject: Kaylee is gone


I just came back from the vets after saying goodbye to my girl.  The tumor had 
eaten away too much at her eye and nose area that there was no hope.  I could 
have brought her home but it would only have been a few days and she wouldn’t 
have felt good.  So I went to the vets and said my goodbyes while she was still 
sedated and held her while I had to let go.  Thank you everyone for you support.
 
Chris
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Re: Goodbye, Olive...

2007-08-31 Thread Barb Moermond
Megan, I'm so sorry.  She's beautiful and your love for her has come through 
all of your message loud and clear.  GLOW to light her path and ease your heart.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito 
My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 10:56:23 PM
Subject: Goodbye, Olive...

Unfortunately, I had to resort to PTS. It was probably the toughest decision 
of my life--or at least, the second toughest, the first being to decide to let 
Olive go in the first place. I spent most of the day yesterday and today with 
her, and it was miserable watching her fade away. My roommate and I sat by her 
for hours today. I kept thinking she was about to go, that she'd take one last 
looking like she'd already passed. At one point she looked like she was really 
gone, aside from the very slight rising of her chest, and then she rolled over 
and stretched out, almost as if she were alright... it was heartbreaking.

This morning I had thought about trying to save her, but in my heart I feel 
that it would have done more harm than good. Perhaps there was a slight chance 
I truly could have saved her and reversed the anemia--but I have a feeling it 
wouldn't have worked out that way, and I didn't want to put Olive through more 
suffering. She was too young to succumb to this, but if I had tried to keep 
her alive, I feel that it would've been out of my own selfish reasons. I will 
miss her so much, but I am glad that she went out easy. I am sorry that I 
could not give her a longer life, but at least the one she had was a great 
one. She was one of the best kitties ever.

The vet called me this afternoon asking for an update, and I told him of my 
decision, but that I still didn't know which way to go about it. He told me 
he'd be at the clinic for about 20 more minutes, so I told him I might call 
back. After discussing it with my roommate and boyfriend, I called back. It 
was terrible. But at least Olive got to enjoy a last meal of tuna before 
parting this world. She'd not eaten in a while, and I was happy to see her 
gobble up quite a bit of it.

Here are some photos of Olive, if you're interested:
http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive.JPG
http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive2.JPG
http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/babyolive.JPG
http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/kittens.JPG (Juniper on left, Kudzu on right)

She was not very photogenic, so I don't have many good photos of her...

Thank you guys for all of your help. I did not mean to come off as ungrateful 
in one of my previous emails. I was in so much pain, and so confused. I'm 
feeling better now, because I know I did the right thing, as awful as it was.

I wish you and all your kitties good luck. I may eventually leave this list, 
as I should hopefully no longer have use of it for some time being... But I'll 
stay on for a bit. Thank you, everyone, so much.

-Megan











   
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Re: OT: deer hunters: Greater heart attack risk

2007-08-18 Thread Barb Moermond
first, I agree that canned hunts are absolutely wrong; besides, where's the 
sport in catching something inside a fence?

second, most deer hunters are NOT fat cats.  In a lot of really rural areas, 
the poverty is such that there are many many families who depend on hunting to 
feed their families through the winter.  (Vegetarianism isn't the answer for 
everybody; it's a choice.)  These people are working full time and then some to 
simply keep a roof over their heads.  Gardening is helpful, but not enough.

third, we have to face the unpleasant reality that we have forced 
overpopulation issues by replacing habitat with farmland and highways and 
killing off their historical natural preditors (wolves, coyotes etc).  The 
farms are regular sources of food and the deer population has adjusted itself 
accordingly with hunting and highways as part of their natural chain.  

Do you honestly think it is better for deer to starve slowly in the winter, 
damaging farmer's crops, than to die quickly? I don't know any hunters who are 
happy about wounding an animal w/o killing it and they do their best to be good 
shots.

I know from personal experience that there are nasty people in any kind of 
category you choose to divide them into, but I believe, also from personal 
experience, that the vast majority aren't nasty.

This said, I am not going to enter into a debate.  I've lived around hunters 
all my life and have an actual conservation ecologist in the family and the 
above is sincerely believed by me.

 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito 
My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 9:50:03 AM
Subject: Re: OT: deer hunters: Greater heart attack risk

My take on this is most guys who hunt are fat cats who
eat a lot of meat and can afford to take hunting
trips...
This means, they often hold high end jobs, where they
sit at a desk all day. Hunting restores that need in
them to feel like real men. 
For starters, these out of shape creeps, need to
become VEGETARIANS and take it from there. People who
kill animals for sport have no soul. The types that
really are the most disgusting are the hunters that
hunt  for huge fees, in these fenced in parks, where
the animals are often retired zoo animals or old and
sick wildlife. Texas is full of these places. Too bad
the wildlife can't be armed with all the modern
weapons with scopes and lasers and things could be
reversed.How would thesehunters like seeing their
mom or children murdered before their very eyes? 
Maybe hunting needs to be replaced by hiking and
people need to appreciate looking at our beautiful
wildlife enjoying their lives and feeling happy and
secure in our beautiful places? 
 Glenda 
--- Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Found this very interesting.  Of course, I wonder if
 it has anything to do with your inner spirit knowing
 that it is not right to harm these beautiful animals
 and this is punishment for their ignorance.
 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070817/hl_nm/deer_risk_dc
 
 
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 www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
 www.shadowcats.net
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 in state,
Faithful Bast at
 her side did wait,
Purring welcomes
 of soft applause,
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Re: OT: rescue remedy

2007-08-13 Thread Barb Moermond
Rescue Remedy is like all other medicines and herbal treatments, it works well 
for some people and it doesn't work at all for others.  RR worked on my sweet 
Ninja but I could pour the whole bottle down Bandit's throat w/no reaction.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
 
My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 1:06:12 PM
Subject: OT: rescue remedy


So, I was really excited to get some rescue remedy and try it out on the 
kitties to see how amazingly it worked—no luck! Am I doing something wrong? I 
bought the regular rescue remedy in the dropper form and the rescue sleep in 
the spray. I was hoping to use it at night or the early morning hours when 
things get out of control at our house. Mainly it’s just two of our cats who 
wrestle and fight (play fight) constantly—non stop! It’s loud (even though they 
don’t meow), but they’re running into things, stampeding through the hallway, 
scratching furniture as they vault over it, mauling each other, etc. They look 
like one gray ball rolling around frantically.
 
When we’re awake during the day, it’s all very amusing, and I always break up 
the fights when they get too serious. Those two hearts get to beating so fast! 
One is not picking on the other—both take turns instigating these fights. 
 
Anyway, I thought maybe the rescue remedy would calm them down during these 
situations when we’re trying to sleep and they’re playing “rodeo.” I squirted 
the rescue sleep in one cat’s mouth. Nothing. I added it to their water at bed 
time. No luck. I gave them a drop of the regular rescue remedy in their mouths. 
Nada. The circus continued at 4 a.m. without lessening.
 
Anybody else have zero results with this? Does it only work with stressed out 
cats and not rambunctious ones? Maybe we should be using it on ourselves 
instead! J
 
Melissa Lind


   

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Re: OT: rescue remedy

2007-08-13 Thread Barb Moermond
well, I always used it topically, neat.  worked on me at the time and I gave 
Ninja one drop about a half hour before we left for the vet and one more drop 
just before and she was just relaxed.  the vet was very curious about it 
because Ninja was clearly not happy to be there, but her body was quite relaxed 
(just a kinda cranky look on her face).  when the boys were younger and I was 
trying to adjust Bandit's fabric chewing behavior I tried it on them both - 
temple/ear - no joy I haven't tried it on them recently but the chewing 
seems to be under control and I've used feliway since Smoky had his cystitis 
issues.  altho - when he kisses my fingers, he has recently started to nibble 
too:P
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
 
My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 2:56:25 PM
Subject: RE: OT: rescue remedy


Barb, do you dilute or give neat?...What change of behavior did you see in 
Ninja?
 
(Maybe I'm expecting too much~! After several months of putting 4 drops in each 
of their water bowls, morn and night, for several months now I can't discern 
any change of behavior in any of my 5 cats (ferals are pretty well still as 
feral as ever; and my highly-strung cat is still as highly strung as ever (I've 
just started him back on his chlamypramine again). I'm thinking of giving it up 
 finding a better use for the $$. ) Kerry
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 2:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT: rescue remedy


Rescue Remedy is like all other medicines and herbal treatments, it works well 
for some people and it doesn't work at all for others.  RR worked on my sweet 
Ninja but I could pour the whole bottle down Bandit's throat w/no reaction.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito 
 
My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous 



- Original Message 
From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 1:06:12 PM
Subject: OT: rescue remedy


So, I was really excited to get some rescue remedy and try it out on the 
kitties to see how amazingly it worked—no luck! Am I doing something wrong? I 
bought the regular rescue remedy in the dropper form and the rescue sleep in 
the spray. I was hoping to use it at night or the early morning hours when 
things get out of control at our house. Mainly it’s just two of our cats who 
wrestle and fight (play fight) constantly—non stop! It’s loud (even though they 
don’t meow), but they’re running into things, stampeding through the hallway, 
scratching furniture as they vault over it, mauling each other, etc. They look 
like one gray ball rolling around frantically.
 
When we’re awake during the day, it’s all very amusing, and I always break up 
the fights when they get too serious. Those two hearts get to beating so fast! 
One is not picking on the other—both take turns instigating these fights. 
 
Anyway, I thought maybe the rescue remedy would calm them down during these 
situations when we’re trying to sleep and they’re playing “rodeo.” I squirted 
the rescue sleep in one cat’s mouth. Nothing. I added it to their water at bed 
time. No luck. I gave them a drop of the regular rescue remedy in their mouths. 
Nada. The circus continued at 4 a.m. without lessening.
 
Anybody else have zero results with this? Does it only work with stressed out 
cats and not rambunctious ones? Maybe we should be using it on ourselves 
instead! J
 
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Re: OT: rescue remedy

2007-08-13 Thread Barb Moermond
I think I actually put the drop in her mouth, I honestly can't remember 
exactly.  But topically would be better because of the alcohol base.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
 
My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 3:40:22 PM
Subject: RE: OT: rescue remedy


Thanks Barbre topicallydid you rub on Ninja's ear?  Maybe I should 
start applying a drop neat to Tiger every night.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 3:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT: rescue remedy


well, I always used it topically, neat.  worked on me at the time and I gave 
Ninja one drop about a half hour before we left for the vet and one more drop 
just before and she was just relaxed.  the vet was very curious about it 
because Ninja was clearly not happy to be there, but her body was quite relaxed 
(just a kinda cranky look on her face).  when the boys were younger and I was 
trying to adjust Bandit's fabric chewing behavior I tried it on them both - 
temple/ear - no joy I haven't tried it on them recently but the chewing 
seems to be under control and I've used feliway since Smoky had his cystitis 
issues.  altho - when he kisses my fingers, he has recently started to nibble 
too:P
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito 
 
My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous 



- Original Message 
From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 2:56:25 PM
Subject: RE: OT: rescue remedy


Barb, do you dilute or give neat?...What change of behavior did you see in 
Ninja?
 
(Maybe I'm expecting too much~! After several months of putting 4 drops in each 
of their water bowls, morn and night, for several months now I can't discern 
any change of behavior in any of my 5 cats (ferals are pretty well still as 
feral as ever; and my highly-strung cat is still as highly strung as ever (I've 
just started him back on his chlamypramine again). I'm thinking of giving it up 
 finding a better use for the $$. ) Kerry
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 2:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT: rescue remedy


Rescue Remedy is like all other medicines and herbal treatments, it works well 
for some people and it doesn't work at all for others.  RR worked on my sweet 
Ninja but I could pour the whole bottle down Bandit's throat w/no reaction.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito 
 
My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous 



- Original Message 
From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 1:06:12 PM
Subject: OT: rescue remedy


So, I was really excited to get some rescue remedy and try it out on the 
kitties to see how amazingly it worked—no luck! Am I doing something wrong? I 
bought the regular rescue remedy in the dropper form and the rescue sleep in 
the spray. I was hoping to use it at night or the early morning hours when 
things get out of control at our house. Mainly it’s just two of our cats who 
wrestle and fight (play fight) constantly—non stop! It’s loud (even though they 
don’t meow), but they’re running into things, stampeding through the hallway, 
scratching furniture as they vault over it, mauling each other, etc. They look 
like one gray ball rolling around frantically.
 
When we’re awake during the day, it’s all very amusing, and I always break up 
the fights when they get too serious. Those two hearts get to beating so fast! 
One is not picking on the other—both take turns instigating these fights. 
 
Anyway, I thought maybe the rescue remedy would calm them down during these 
situations when we’re trying to sleep and they’re playing “rodeo.” I squirted 
the rescue sleep in one cat’s mouth. Nothing. I added it to their water at bed 
time. No luck. I gave them a drop of the regular rescue remedy in their mouths. 
Nada. The circus continued at 4 a.m. without lessening.
 
Anybody else have zero results with this? Does it only work with stressed out 
cats and not rambunctious ones? Maybe we should be using it on ourselves 
instead! J
 
Melissa Lind
 





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Re: Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-28 Thread Barb Moermond
Oh Kelley, I am so sorry.  GLOW to light her path and ease your heart.

a thought: you should try some RR on yourself too - can't hurt and it might 
help relax the vibes you're putting off.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
 
My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:37:59 AM
Subject: Suzie crossed the bridge

She was a sweet girl who liked to sit in laps, but didn't like other cats much. 
 She was positive for FIP.  Dr Samon euthanized her this morning.  I wish I had 
been there, but they said she was comatose..

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Re: Kisa is gone :(

2007-06-12 Thread Barb Moermond
Oh Cassandra, I'm so sorry..  GLOW to light her path and ease your heart
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
 
My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:50:38 PM
Subject: Kisa is gone :(


Kisa passed away this morning while I was at work, exactly one month after 
Koda.  My heart is broken, especially since I wasn't there with her at the end.
 
I had prayed and hoped so much that she would continue to improve after she 
started eating again a week and a half ago.  I suppose it was just too much for 
her to overcome.  The anemia never really did improve much. Though her 
breathing was better, her skin was so pale.
 
The last few days, her appetite faltered again, and she was getting weaker.  I 
didn't think today would be the day she died, though i'm relieved she didn't 
have to go on suffering much longer.  I don't think she was in pain, and I 
sincerely hope she wasn't in pain at the end.  It was just so hard to see her 
so weak when she was as active and happy as a kitten 3 weeks ago.
 
Kisa is going to be missed more than words can say.  She never quite saw her 
3rd birthday, but the time she spent with us will never be forgotten.  She was 
special in so many ways, I wouldn't even know where to start to list them all.  
Fearless, loving, gentle, playful, curious, and sweet are just a few of the 
words that describe her.  She's been sleeping on my pillow the last few nights, 
and i'm going to miss her warmth so much.
 
If it ever stops raining, she will be buried next to Koda tonight.  I made a 
rock garden full of flowers on top of Koda's grave.  Now Kisa will join her 
there.
 
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Re: Plastic Bag Kitties

2007-05-21 Thread Barb Moermond
Bandit, my problem child, likes the sound of plastic, and newspaper etc.  He's 
the fabric chewer (http://www.meankitty.com/Gallery1/bandit2.htm) and for fun, 
he LOVES shredding corrugated cardboard.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
 
My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 11:58:40 PM
Subject: Plastic Bag Kitties

My adorable tuxedo Billi Bi loves those plastic bags from the grocery or the 
pharmacy.  He tries to cram all eight pounds of his lanky self into them.  
Billi Bi is part Siamese and has the voice to prove it!


Also, years ago I read that cats adored those thin brown tissue dress patterns. 
 They could eat them (yum, yum).


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




On May 12, 2007, at 12:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Okay, I have a Siamese ever since he was a baby (6 weeks old rescue)
he has a fetish for plastic. Especially the plastic bags from the grocery 
stores it doesn't matter which store it's from.
He will lick it or love it. 
He has been tested and there is nothing medically wrong with him.
He is almost 5 years old.
Anyone have a kitty that does this?
 
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Re: Prednisone - Thank You

2007-05-13 Thread Barb Moermond
Bless you Teresa, for being you:)
Prednisone can be very effective with helping a number of things, you simply 
have to be aware of its effect on the immune system with long term use and 
weigh the benefits.  With my Ninja, it controlled her seizures (believed to be 
caused by a meningioma) quite well for about 3 months when we had to add 
phenobarbital to the mix.  She was seizure-free for her last 2 months:)

Your crew is very lucky to have you as a caretaker.

I've spoken about this with other list members (and my therapist) about how 
there seems to be an inverse relationship between wealth and compassion.  There 
are always exceptions to any rule, but I have run into this one an awful lot 
since I've been on the fringes of rescue and involved with this list.

Keep being who you are and doing what you do; you ARE making a difference.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito 
My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: Teresa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 5:48:39 AM
Subject: Prednisone - Thank You

What a gratifying thing to get such caring and educational replies from 
you folks about my Timmy. I guess we get so used to bearing the burden 
on our own shoulders that we forget there are kindred souls out there 
doing the same thing.

Well I am familiar with pred and its evils, I am unfortunately on it 
because of rheumatoid arthritis for which I refuse to take the going 
drugs, which are linked to lymphoma and blindness, both of which my 
father had, so my risk is increased right there. But I sure need 
SOMETHING. Plus, I have osteoporosis so I definitely should not take 
pred. So I take Miacalcin for that. The options are not very attractive 
in this business of getting old and sick!

As for my vet, he did say something to the effect that pred can be and 
is used in felv cats to suppress some of the symptoms and assist in 
managing it, not that it impacts the disease and of course with the 
understanding of its undermining the immune system. My previous vets 
before I moved also used pred for various things and actually, I do, 
too, with my large population of all sorts of not only conditions but 
personalities. I will use it briefly for a cat who is so miserable it 
won't eat, can't smell food, can't breathe because of nasal discharge, 
etc. Usually it will get them eating pronto and get them over that hump 
without force feeding. I started this with the previous vets who would 
spike their initial shot of antibiotics in the office, for such things 
as severe URI's and urinary problems. It can get them peeing without 
being catheterized quite frequently. So this is the type of usage I use 
it for. I also have a cat who is pretty blind, who has seizures and I 
give it to him during spells when he's having more seizures. I have a 
couple cats who have severe stomatitis that nothing has worked for, so I 
use steroids for them to try to manage it. I know it sounds like I use 
it a lot but it's really not that much per cat and it's only after I and 
the vet have tried other things first. I try to keep it to surge type 
treatments and wean them off it asap. But I find it very valuable for 
sick cats. We have also used it for various cancers we have dealt with. 
Right now I have one who has a very ugly, nasty, runny tumor in his ear 
that has been removed once but came right back, and I don't think he 
could survive without his steroids, that thing gets out of control 
without them. We are looking for a specialist to operate again. The 
tumor is benign.

In Timmy's current situation, he just got the upper respiratory that is 
still going around my brood but actually, he's been snotty in the nose 
since I got him some months ago, but it wasn't severe. I treated with 
clavamox at first and that was good except for the couple deep bites and 
all the scratches I got giving it to him, but it came right back and 
since it didn't seem to be bothering him and he wasn't sneezing it 
around, he was eating and acting very well, I figured I'd save the 
antibiotics for down the road when I figured we'd need them more. 
Actually I treated a couple times, once with baytril., but no steroids 
till this time. This time he got real sick with it as did my negatives 
who got it, some did die very quickly from it. We don't know what it is 
except it's viral. I've had a horrible winter with it, the worst of my 
life as far as sick cats. It's been a nightmare. But Timmy stopped 
eating suddenly and nothing tempted him, I tried all my tricks, salmon, 
etc etc, I have a cupboardfull. I got him on baytril immediately and 
then some dex and did get an immediate response from that in the eating 
department and he's been eating well ever since. He's been on it several 
days and today I am going to look very closely at starting the 

Re: Charlie Brown - Long

2007-05-13 Thread Barb Moermond
Oh Sheila, my heart goes out to you both.  GLOW and hugs to you and Charlie
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito 
My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 8:02:11 AM
Subject: Charlie Brown - Long


 
My Charlie Brown is leaving me. This wonderful old man has been with me for 
fifteen years. I've never had a sweeter or smarter cat in my life. He was 
diagnosed with felv four years ago. The doctor said he was very sick and he 
wouldn't make it another week and wanted to put him down, He wouldn't even give 
me antibiotics to try and help his respiratory infection. I brought him home 
gave him amoxi drops I had from another kitties uri bout, food and water and 
round the clock love and care. He started to improve right away and had been 
healthy and happy for four more years. Two days ago I woke to find him unable 
to walk. I thought he wouldn't make it through the morning, but he is still 
here. I know in my heart that he does not want to be put down in a doctors 
office he is fighting so hard to stay, as sick as he is he still tries to crawl 
to food plate. He doesn't want me to syringe feed him, he wants me to hold him 
over his plate so he can eat own his own. He is the toughest
 little guy I have ever known and I am so grateful for the last four years we 
have had together. Please pray for us both.  Sheila


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Re: Rabies wavier

2007-05-08 Thread Barb Moermond
I missed the beginning of this - but my vet was completely fine with not giving 
the boys their 3 yr rabies shot as they never go outside AND they have an 
in-house waiver that parents have to sign when they choose not to give the 
rabies vacc for whatever reason.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2007 4:14:54 PM
Subject: Re: Rabies wavier

It varies from state to state and county to county.  I'm in northern California.

Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
I'm in so cal and I've also been told that a written wavier from your 
vet is usually all that is required for exemption. Rabies shots are 
otherwise mandatory in my county. They won't even allow you the 
privilege of licensing an animal without proof of vaccination, or a 
waiver. Now, getting a vet to write that waiver has been another story.
Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:
 I posted the link to what as far as I can tell is the full body of the 
 law.

 It says nothing about exceptions for medical conditions. If you can
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follow-up point! thanks belinda! Re: an important reminder - sorry, kinda long:)

2007-04-19 Thread Barb Moermond
My sincerest apologies my dear friends!!!

I keep forgetting that not everyone is as lucky as I am.  I am incredibly 
spoiled by the vets I have and their dedication to continuing education and 
openness to the information I’ve given them from the list.

I was speaking from the ideal in my head that all vets are like mine and that 
vets, having the lengthy education they have, are (supposed to be) equipped to 
evaluate different therapies and treatments and studies and then be able to 
make an educated, informed decision WITH the owner as to treatment.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Moermond, Barb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:32:12 PM
Subject: an important reminder - sorry, kinda long:)


Hey gang,
I've noticed some potentially disturbing trends in how information is being 
presented to the list as a whole; both with various treatments and external 
resources.
 
I think that the first thing we need to remember is that we are here to help 
each other and share experiences with the possibility of our past experiences 
providing more information for a new FeLV+ parent to have in their 
decision-making arsenal.  With the high emotions that come with the territory, 
sometimes the words that appear on the screen aren't read with the spirit they 
were written - we're all human and should try not to be condemning of a person 
dealing with these difficult issues who makes decisions that WE, in all our 
vast knowledge and skill, would NOT have made.  
 
Ultimately, we have to remember that it is each of us individually who has 
responsibility for his/her own furkid - we're not raising horses (camels!) by 
committee here ya know.  The asking for additional information (experience etc) 
and advice is NOT a request for the list to make the decision (not that 
every/anyone posts that way as a rule, but you know what I mean)!!
I think that the most important thing this list has done over the years is 
create this amazing e-family.  My Ninja passed in 1998 and my boys are negative 
and I am still here because I love you guys!  AND to share if anything Ninja 
and I lived through could help someone else. 

We need to SAY that X is what we tried and it worked for us as opposed to 
saying X WORKS!  We all know that every kit is different and what works for 
one won't for another and, as with mixing, it has to work for the whole family. 
For those of us who have dealt with FeLV in the past or have been living with 
it for a time, we may forget how terrifying the diagnosis can be and how poorly 
we were initially filtering information. If it isn't said in as many words, 
personal opinion and experience can be read as FACT and that's not fair to the 
newbies. Especially considering that WE ARE NOT VETERINARIANS!!! 
 
I remember when I first found out Ninja's positive status and I was DEVASTATED. 
But I found this list. I found a vet whose own cat was positive. I did a TON of 
research, but not everybody thinks to do that or can filter through the panic. 
Because we have experience, we can let newbies know, hey, this is a possible 
treatment oh, you live in X, I've heard great things about this clinic there 
etc.  But we should also remind everyone (especially new people) that they need 
to do their own research outside this list and figure out what makes the most 
sense to them - regardless of what everyone's OPINIONS on here are.
 
Many topics come up that have been covered in great detail in the archives!!  
Searching the archives for additional information on any number of topics 
related to our FeLV+ kits should be one of the first things we do - newbies and 
oldies both.  There is a wealth of experience and information available through 
this group and its members.

Also, knowing what an amazing medium of communication the internet is, we have 
to be particularly careful in what we are saying about external resources, be 
they shelters or hospitals or clinics or rescue organizations or specific vets 
etc etc. Negative comments especially need to be framed in the this is MY 
experience with WXY as opposed to OMG DID YOU HEAR WHAT
THEY DO AT WXY AND IT'S THEIR POLICY. 

So let's all remember to share personal opinion and experience as such. 


e.g.   we tried X and...
y didn't work for us, but z did
wxy was really helpful (or not) to me when I called for info



Further, deponent sayeth not.

We now return to your regularly scheduled list-serve.
 
 
 
-  
Barb Moermond
-
 
We don't need lists of rights and wrongs, tables of do's and don'ts: we need 
books, time, and silence.
- Philip Pullman

Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-15 Thread Barb Moermond
Tomi is absolutely beautiful; you can see the love he has for you in his eyes.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:25:21 AM
Subject: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today



 
 


I took these pictures today of my little Tomi 
boy:

 

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And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other 
Felv baby) together:

 

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Re: Hi Marissa

2007-04-03 Thread Barb Moermond
yep, we rock 

hehehe and we're trying to convince marissa that mc and I are actually 
different people!  pretty shaky results so far..
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2007 12:56:10 PM
Subject: Re: Hi Marissa


Aw, thanks for asking Wendy!
 
I'm doing okay.  The first several days after Slinky went to the bridge I 
really thought I was doing great!  But the last few nights have been pretty 
rough.  The guilt and what-if's started 2 nights ago - if I'd caught the UTI 
sooner, gotten him in sooner - and to a better vet, done more, paid closer 
attention, etc  In my head I know that's not true, but as someone else 
said, grief is not logical...and neither is guilt!  
 
I really started mourning Slink when I first found out how sick he was...but I 
think at that point I was mourning the loss of a friend, a companion, someone 
to keep me company.  Now I think I'm mourning the loss of SLINKY...his 
personality, his sweetness, the amazing bond we had.  Those are the things I 
can't ever get back, despite being able to get new friends, etc.  So...it's a 
process I guess I have to go through, but it's not fun!  I cried myself to 
sleep twice this week - holding his favorite pillow and petting the stuffed cat 
that looks like him (tho he's way too small).
 
People have been fabulously supportive, though.  The vet sent me a card with a 
very sweet note shortly after our appointment, and yesterday I got cards in the 
mail from 2 friends.  Everyone's been checking on me and MC and Barb have been 
talking to me almost 24/7  (THANKS GUYS).  It's so great to 
have family and friends help you through these times.
 
Despite all the grief, I know Slink would not want me to be alone (he knows I 
need some babies to take care of me! lol) and I promised him I would give a 
good home to other cats.  So I've begun looking for 2 new furbabes to adopt.  I 
actually applied for 2 at the Washington Animal Rescue League:
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8110889
 
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8136096
 
When I went to visit them again yesterday, one of the staff mentioned that they 
have a lot of apps in for Patience and that they were already leaning toward 
someone before I came along, so it sounds like I may not end up with her.  But 
she said there weren't many in on Rufus...because his condition is scarier.  I 
pointed out that I work in disability rights - it takes a lot to scare me! lol  
They seemed to think this one (below) would be a good match for Rufus since 
he's pretty quiet.
 
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8136115
 
I've decided I definitely want special needs kitties...but I just can't do 
another terminal illness (such as felv) again right now.  I don't have the 
emotional resources...nor the financial.  And now that I understand the 
potential costs of treatments, etc. I don't think it would be very responsible 
of me to take in a + cat knowing I can't afford to pay for what they may 
(probably will) need.  It's beginning to seem, though, that the special needs 
kitties are fairly popular...so I'd be willing to take in a healthy, 
middle-aged cat who's having trouble getting adopted as well.
 
I'll let you all know what happens with the applications...and I know you all 
will love them even if they're not positive!  ;)  
 
Thank you all so much for being here!  This list has been my lifeline and I 
know I couldn't get through this stuff without you!!!  I hope all your 
furbabies are doing well!!!
 
MJ and Angel Slinky  :)

wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Marissa,

How are you doing today? You sound pretty upbeat in
your posts, so I hope you're feeling good. Slinky is
probably so happy to see you doing well, watching you
from the top of his 'tree in the sky'. 

:)
Wendy

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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Barb Moermond
Elizabeth, I'm so sorry...
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:27:33 AM
Subject: Good Bye Mama Kitty


Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much.  You 
are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and apple blossoms.  
 
It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my heart.  I 
love you.
 
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Re: Hideyo - Please send her strength

2007-03-28 Thread Barb Moermond
Hideyo,
you and your crew are always in my thoughts and prayers - a steady stream of 
GLOW flows your way to help you make the painful decisions that are sometimes 
necessary and to give you strength and peace.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:31:21 PM
Subject: Hideyo - Please send her strength


I'm writing to the list for prayers, strength and love to be sent to our 
dear friend Hideyo.  She has had so many losses, so much pain and 
sadness, so much strife, she could so use our strength right now.  It 
has been difficult for her to find time to participate in the list 
lately.  She has stoically been dealing with loss after loss, and still, 
when I asked for her help in interpreting Joey's test results she wrote 
back immediately.  I have never met a more giving unselfish heart as 
Hideyo.  You may not agree with where her decisions take her, but they 
are always made from a place of love and giving.  I wish there was more 
that I could do to relieve her burdens.  Sometimes knowing that you are 
not alone, knowing that others care and are sending good thoughts and 
blessings your way can help rally our fortitude and get us through the 
worst of times.  Hideyo is such an unsung hero and I'm proud to call her 
friend.
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Re: Update on Slinky

2007-03-17 Thread Barb Moermond
oh Marissa that's awesome!!  doesn't it just make your heart overflow to have 
such loving and generous people around you?  Sending GLOW to you , Slinky and 
the rest of your chosen family:)
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 7:53:17 PM
Subject: Update on Slinky

Hi all.  First of all, thank you SO MUCH for all of your advice, help, and 
support  It's done me worlds of good!!  I can't remember what all I've 
already posted and what I haven't (esp. cuz I've told so many people all the 
details that it's all getting a bit jumbled), so if some of this is repeat, 
forgive me.
   
  Slinky has never stopped eating entirely.  He's been eating his dry Innova 
Evo like crazy...just wouldn't eat the raw I usually feed him.  He's also been 
drinking quite a bit and using his litter box regularly (and no diarrhea).  I 
got some sub-q fluids at the vet yesterday (they didn't really think it would 
help but gave them to me anyway), but didn't end up using them.  
   
  When I went to bed last night his temp was 103.6, so I just syringe-fed him 
some ice water, wiped him down with a cold washcloth, and opened the window.  
He ate several times during the
 night (I had his dish with the dry food on my bed next to my pillow, so I 
heard him when he started eating, and his water glass - only thing he'd drink 
out of - is next to my bed), drank, and used the litter box.  He felt cool to 
the touch to me all night (when he's had high fevers, he's usually been very 
hot) and this morning, so I didn't even take his temp.
   
  But, after reading all of your posts about transfusions, anemia, etc. I noted 
that his gums were VERY pale, and I thought his breathing and heart seemed a 
bit fast (though I'd never really paid attention before so wasn't sure how 
abnormal they were), so I decided to take him in this morning. 
   
  Let me first say that I have the BEST chosen family in the entire 
universe!!  I called my sister this morning because she said she was 
getting together with the 2 dads (it's complicated but you get the idea) and 
did I want to come.  I
 called to tell her I couldn't go and why and she recommended I take Slink to a 
24 hour animal hospital in DC (she took her dog there and both of the dads took 
their cats and dogs there as well).  So we headed out to see what they could do.
   
  I had called the hospital and they said they could do a payment plan.  But it 
turns out that what they have is a credit card you can apply for, but I applied 
for one through my bank this morning and was denied.  The visit alone was going 
to be $110, but I figured I could at least find out what my options were.  When 
I walked in, I said that my cat had FeLV and was very anemic, his gums were 
almost white..they came and took him back and started checking him even before 
they had all my ID info (I figured this was a good sign - they were serious 
about getting him taken care of!).  
   
  When we got there, his temp was 106!!!  That's the highest it's ever
 been!  I gave them the results from the clinic on Wed (the ones I posted 
earlier) and they ran a PCV.  They said his RBC was at 12 and Wed. it had been 
at 14...but since they were different machines and different types of tests 
they were hard to compare but figured the numbers were fairly comparable - at 
least it wasn't plummeting.  They said about the only option was a transfusion 
and broad-spectrum antibiotics...but for all of that we were looking at 
probably about $1000 (the transfusion plus overnight stay, tests, etc.).  
They're a little higher than most because it's a 24 hour hospital, but I 
figured the other places would end up being about the same with all the tests, 
etc.
   
  The doctor said she had had a cat that was FeLV+ who lived to be about 5 and 
then got really sick...so I knew that at least she was familiar with the 
disease and was not going to write him off because of his label.  That made me 
feel TONS
 better!!!  She continued to say that his long-term prognosis is not great, but 
that it was worth trying the transfusion if I could spend the money.
   
  I called my sister in hysterics not at all sure what to do.  She came over 
immediately and said if I wanted to do it, she'd pay for it if necessary.  She 
doesn't have THAT much more money than I do though, so I wasn't crazy about 
that idea.  But while I was waiting for her to come, I had called one of the 
dads who has 2 cats and recently spent $3500 on surgery for one of them.  
Despite the fact that he was running a million errands to get ready for a big 
trip, he said he'd be there in 20 minutes.  
   
  When he got there, he looked at the estimates, talked to 

Re: ovaban and other stuff....Nina

2007-03-10 Thread Barb Moermond
Patti,
I for one am always happy when I see you've posted something.  Your presence 
here is  simply, right.

 
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 3:27:10 AM
Subject: Re: ovaban and other stuffNina



 

Dear Nina,

I've been thinking much about you also. (And now w/ my vision going so 
bad, unless I put you on speed-dial...well.  And, my 
mobility is also going to he!!, so it's almost impossible for me to answer 
phone. And, that portable phone my room mate got me, well, it has TOO many 
things and I have a great record of disconnecting incoming calls..  I 
give up! Think positive - great idea, but hard to do when 
you're steadily going [further] down- hill.

After reading your post, I remembered how the vet visit went w/ Bart... 
(I also have a great vet, compassionate but MILES awayHe does give me 
Rescue Rates - thank heaven)..  When I sadly had Bart PTS he asked me what 
did I want to do w/ his remains.I jokingly said I'd put him 
in freezer w/ Fred, my [very LARGE] goldfishWe have 
been in such a deep-freeze, snow, sleet...I don't think ground will thaw 
'til June  So, I did have him cremated  That fee was larger 
than I expected..But, as always, the critters come first.

I didn't now how Bart would react - strange place, strange 
people..  And he was in so much pain..  But I did explain to him 
why I was doing this, promised him he would be taken care of [NOT what I 
wanted, but I've promised all my critters I'd never let them suffer]. He was so 
amazing though.  He did growl, hiss - but only once. I just stroked him, 
explained to him what was going on, and he even let me kiss him  I 
really believe he knew I was doing the best [only] option.  When the vet 
gave him the sedative prior to the euthanol, well, he looked at me w/ those 
big, 
beautiful eyes - I think telling me, It's ok Mom  thank you.

And, for Charity's appt., I do have a carrier that has the metal thing 
on top that you can just open, and that will probably be much less stressful 
- 
for both her  me.

I'm just concerned about how we can draw blood.. She was negative 
when I had her spayed, but she's been out the last 2 years,  And, Bart, 
[NEVER tested], was old, intact  had all the textbook symptoms of 
wet FIP(He was so full of fluids...)  Poor 'ole boy. A lousy 
life.  Is it any wonder I prefer critters over people?  And believe 
me, doing Rescue for so long, the things I saw, the 
idiots I encounteredG..  I could 
go on  on.  Especially since I just watched Animal Cops 
(Heroes).  Ughh..

I'll let you all know how it goes w/ Charity.  I do talk to her every 
day, try to explain what we're [trying] to accomplish. And, yes, she does 
trust me so hopefully it will be smooth sailing w/ excellent results

And, I do use Feliway  RR.  And w/ the Feliway, it's so wonderful 
- stroking this former feral girl.  I actually thinks she actually enjoys 
the touching...I still can't believe the turn-a-round..Makes me cry, 
tears of joy. SIMPLY AMAZING!  This girl had me in ER so many 
times!

Oh, I am rambling again, sorry, but I have gotten so much love  
support from this group, And, it really helps me, emotionally.  I really 
need that, especially now.

So, thank you Nina and everyone for all your support.  You'll never 
know how much it means to me,

Oh, look at the time (Takes me forever to write).

The insomniac is going to attempt to get some rest.  Hopefully 
anyway.

 

Much love, hugs  thanks,

Patti  her gang



 



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Re: Seattle vets

2007-03-10 Thread Barb Moermond
This is a link to the American Association of Feline Practitioners.

http://www.aafponline.org/

and this is a link to a search for Seattle vets on that site (there are 8 in 
Seattle proper)

http://www.aafponline.org/find_results.php?name=city=Seattlestate=WAcountry=USAzipcode=Submit=Submit

 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

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   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2007 10:20:59 PM
Subject: Seattle vets

Still wondering about good progressive vets in the Seattle area ...
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Re: OT: Chocolate cat needs a name

2007-02-16 Thread Barb Moermond
I thought of Havana Brown too, but there's also Tonkinese and Burmese

 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:34:07 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Chocolate cat needs a name


Hi Beth, 

Do you think this kitty may be a Havana Brown breed?
Maybe a play on Havana, or Cuba, or Cuba Gooding Jr,
or any one of the characters played by CB Jr, or...???

If he's just a chocolate brown cat, then how about:
Brach, Bosco, Cadbury, Guylian, Hershey, Lindt...?

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Gussies mom wrote:

 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:09:30 -0800 (PST)
 From: Gussies mom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: OT: Chocolate cat needs a name
 
 I volunteer with a rescue that has taken in cats from a hoarding case. Some 
 have tested FeLV+. One of the cats that tested negative and is awaiting a 
 retest is a cocoa colored cat. He is all brown. I have never seen a cat like 
 this in person. Anyway, his name was Reuben and we are searching for a better 
 name. The possibilitties so far are Cocoa, Chocolate Boy, and Whitman, none 
 of which I care for.
   If anyone can think of a name for a chocolate colored cat, can you please 
 let me know. You can email me off list if you want. 
   And please keep your fingers crossed he retests negative.

   Beth
 
  
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Re: Chocolate cat needs a name

2007-02-16 Thread Barb Moermond
I love Ganache!!

 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:35:45 PM
Subject: RE: Chocolate cat needs a name


He sounds wonderful.  Truffle?  Ganache?  
 
Diane R.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gussies mom
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:10 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: OT: Chocolate cat needs a name


I volunteer with a rescue that has taken in cats from a hoarding case. Some 
have tested FeLV+. One of the cats that tested negative and is awaiting a 
retest is a cocoa colored cat. He is all brown. I have never seen a cat like 
this in person. Anyway, his name was Reuben and we are searching for a better 
name. The possibilitties so far are Cocoa, Chocolate Boy, and Whitman, none of 
which I care for.
If anyone can think of a name for a chocolate colored cat, can you please let 
me know. You can email me off list if you want. 
And please keep your fingers crossed he retests negative.
 
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Re: Lucy and unsubscribing

2007-02-04 Thread Barb Moermond
Please don't go Michelle, we all value your knowledge and input and want to be 
able to help you (whether by advice or just being an ear to hear) as you have 
helped so many of us.  You having Gray there to be a 2nd pair of eyes is a 
blessing for YOU.  Surely, you trust him to tell you if he thinks you're trying 
too hard to save Lucy.  HIS and YOUR opinions and knowledge of Lucy are the 
best that exist and you have gone through the deaths of animal friends together 
before.  And the making or not-making of the decision to assist.

That said, I certainly see that a break from the list could be helpful to you 
and your state of mind.  Would you be willing to just go No-Mail?

GLOW to you and your family for strength, clarity and peace.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2007 6:49:31 PM
Subject: Lucy and unsubscribing



 

Since I last wrote, Lucy got up, climbed all 14 stairs to the upstairs, ate 
half a jar of baby food and a couple pieces of dry food, curled up on a cat 
bed, 
and is purring away as Gray pets her. When Gray poured the dry food for 
Patches, 
Lucy literally got up and ran over to it, trying to push Patched out of the 
way.

 

I know she has FIP, or most likely does. I know there is no real cure and 
it will get her. But today does not seem to be the day, and I do not think it 
is 
selfish to decide that. Someone who can and wants to climb stairs, wants to eat 
(even if not a normal amount), wants company and pets, and can go running over 
to a bowl of food is, in my opinion, not asking to be killed.

 

To whoever wrote that I should not do home euthanasia, I was not 
considering home euthanasia, I was considering, in an emergency if she gets in 
distress, tranquilizing her until a vet could come or we could get to a vet. i 
did that with Simon and he immediately slept and actually died in his sleep 
before we needed to. But it was not intended as euthanasia. I and several 
others 
on the list have also used oral valium to ease passings, and it has done so. I 
do not think this is irrational.

 

I stopped reading posts after that and just deleted, to whoever wrote 
something in the subject line about allowing suffering.  Given that I had 
just come downstairs from Lucy's little trek and eating spree, it seemed too 
ridiculous to read.

 

This list has been a godsend for me at times, and I have made friendships 
with a few of you that I hope to continue offline from the group.  But this 
group is not helping me right now and is actually upsetting me quite a bit. So 
I 
am unsubscribing.  Nina and Hideyo, I hope to stay in touch with you 
individually, and anyone else who actually wants to, and to share ideas and 
emotional support.  But I am done with the group.

 

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Re: OT: Bart Charty are now safe!!!! W/ me!!!

2007-02-04 Thread Barb Moermond
Patti, you are an inspiration and an excellent example of mind over matter (or 
medicine).  I agree w/MC about the recliner, that's awesome:)

BTW, anyone want to borrow Bandit?
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2007 9:04:08 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Bart  Charty are now safe W/ me!!!

oh, great news!

(warped person that i am, and fellow gimp, what struck me as most remarkable, 
is that you are wise enough to have a recliner in the barn for when you need 
it!)

MC


On 2/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





I know this is OT, but I have written about Bart  Charity, my ferals 
to the list.. And off list to Nina  Kerry..

The other night, we had a (short) blizzard here And, my room mate 
was off on an appt.  I had to walk my dogs after feeding. (NOT easy, I am 
so afraid of slipping  falling  losing my K-9 babies).

Anyway, after feeding, when I was out with my Rottie, I heard these sweet 
cat sounds - turns out it was my dear Charity, she has come around so much, and 
her talking sounded like she wanted my help.

Well, my Rottie is deaf, and I am almost blind I couldn't see her, and 
(Lady)Bug couldn't hear her, but when Bug SAW her, BAM -- thought for sure 
I 
was going down.  And Charity has no fear of dogs, so she proceeded to 
approach me   And, Bug is STRONG, and even pulling her leash back, 
well, w/ all my problems, it was tough..

I finally got Bug back into house and went back out, into the blizzard, to 
see if I could get Charity.. I was out for over THREE hours!  I was 
able to scruff her when in yard, but she freaked (NO claws!!! She has come a 
long way...).  But, having hardly any use of my right arm, I had to let her 
go..  So, we decided to go out to barn..

And, while there, guess who comes out? BART  I was 
shocked!!  He had been in the blankets, etc. I have over crate, I guess 
trying to keep warm..  But, I was there w/ food, and he came 
out...

By this time, over 3 hours, I had to sit down in my recliner to rest.. 
And, then, Charity, and Bart, come up, rub against my legs, so I figured the 
time was right!!!  I reached down, scruffed Charity, then found out, she 
allowed me to just hold her...  So, I had to make the long journey 
back to house, with her (peacefully) in my arms.. (I had closed the barn 
door, and left the food in the well-insulated crate for Bart)  My main 
fear was Charity freaking once we got in house 'cause my dogs, 4 BIG, are very 
loud..They love cats, but, can act weird when a new one comes in. Thank 
heavens, after I gave them a talking-to when entering, none of them barked, got 
up, or did anything   So, I got my Charity into a large crate and 
there she remains... (She was tested - negative, but that was over a year 
agoAnd w/ my Puma, recently being diagnosed w/ FIP  toxo, well, I 
didn't want to expose any of my babies Charity will be re-tested, and we'll 
go from there...)

Back to Bart. When I got back to barn, he was in crate, so I closed the 
door  When I looked him over, well, now I am really 
concerned..  He is so bloated  Thought maybe I got a diff. 
pregnant female, but, he still has his equipment...  And, Bart, was 
always SO feral, I could never get close to him.  Now, he allowed me to pet 
him, seemed to like it.  But, while stroking him, I could feel his 
backbone.And other bones. Made me wonder just what his problem is. 
Also, his eyes are clouded, like cataracts or glaucoma (?).  He also 
looks OLD. Probably is, he's been around here since I've been here...2 1/2 
years now...  So, I wormed him, and did not find anything in his 
feces...And, as bloated as he was, I figured if it was worms they'd be as big 
as 
a snake.  But, NOTHINGI even used my magnifying glass.

I worry now that maybe it's FIP. (A very recent topic on list 
lately.)  I called my rescue partner  she is going to get us a vet 
appt.  But, before I neuter him, I am going to have him hospitalized 'til 
we get all the blood test results back.. Depending on what the results 
are, I will be faced w/ having to decide what to do.  I do have another 
rescue buddy that has converted her barn into a shelter, w/ indiviual homes, I 
just don't know..

So, Bart is still in crate in barn..  It's very well insulated, 
and, when I was able, I had insulated parts of barn, filling cracks, 
etc.  I just worry 'cause we're in a deep-freeze.  He has a good 
bed, lots of thermals, and the crate is also insulated, w/ thermal on the 
outside...  But, it's so cold and he's so old.

He is eating, and I do venture 

Re: Luy not eating

2007-02-03 Thread Barb Moermond
GLOW continuing for you and Lucy.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2007 8:00:54 AM
Subject: Re: Luy not eating



 

She ate a tiny bit (like maybe 10 licks). So finally I syringe fed her 2/3 
of a jar of baby food, with gray petting her as I did. She did not seem to hate 
it that much, and perhaps less than having food shoved in front of her face 
every 30 minutes, and afterwards she washed her face and then purred while I 
pet 
her. Maybe I will do this a few times a day for a few days and see, unless she 
starts to hate it more.

 

confused and depressed, but cuddling with my girl,

Michelle






 

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Re: Mylo's Passing

2007-01-31 Thread Barb Moermond
GLOW to light his path and ease your hearts.  Our thoughts are with you.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: Chris Ramzy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:56:24 PM
Subject: Mylo's Passing

Thank you all for your support. I took Mylo to his vet appointment 
yesterday. I was nervous with a pit in my stomach. Mylo seemed subdued, 
almost like he knew why he was there and that he was ready to let go. His 
little frail body lay on a blanket on the metal table. His head still up. 
The vet gave him a sedative to relax him and within 10 minutes it had shown 
it's effect on Mylo. His tiny head slowly drooped down to where his nose was 
touching the blanket he lay on. My spouse and I continuously stroked Mylo's 
head, neck and paws. The vet came back in to administer the leathal needle. 
The vet checked Mylo for a heart beat and told us Mylo had passed. My spouse 
and I stayed with Mylo privately in the room.  We said our goodbyes and gave 
Mylo a kiss on his head as that was my favourite place to kiss him. It was 
difficult as we walked out of the room and I looked back at his motionless 
body. It hurt to leave him there. When we got home we talked a lot about 
Mylo. I cleaned out his litter box and put his dishes in the dishwasher. I 
slept with the blanket that I took him to the vet in. It was difficult for 
us to fall asleep. Even though I knew what we did was right for Mylo because 
of the state he was in, I just wanted him back. In the end, I tried my best 
to help him. I loved him and cared for him like he was my child.





From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Mylo
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:23:33 -0800

Chris, I am so very sorry you had to Mylo go, What a wonderful 
compassionate thing you have done for your baby. You were his voice and his 
heart when he could not speak for himself. Today you are full of sadness, 
but there is that seed of joy somewhere inside you that will grow because 
you have brought an end to all of Mylos pain, The very best gift you have 
given.
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Re: midnight

2007-01-30 Thread Barb Moermond
we can't forget that when they're showing symptoms of a UTI and they pull urine 
for analysis, that a gram ID and sensitivity test has to be done in order to 
identify the buggy that is the culprit so they can give the correct abx.

 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:05:59 PM
Subject: Re: midnight

WOO HOO  because he peed on my husband in bed this morning.  I thought he was 
going to kick me and Midnight out of the house!  Instead he said, take your cat 
and get out of bed!  He is a grump in the middle of the night.  Then again, cat 
pee isn't pleasant to wake up to!

wendy wrote: 
White blood cells in the urine usually indicate
bacteria is present, thus a UTI.  Curing this will
most likely help with the peeing everywhere.  Make
sure they give you antibiotics to cure the UTI if the
vet says that's what it is.

:)
Wendy

--- Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
I just called to check on Midnight and they said he
is waking up right 
now from the neuter.  He did great.  They checked
his urine and the 
receptionist said she thought there were white blood
cells in the 
urine.  I gave the vet permission to do a blood test
to check is liver.  
Any thoughts on this?
Jennifer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just make sure it's a NON-adjuvanted rabies and
  
distemper vaccine, and that the

distemper is not a combo vaccine that has
  
Chlamydophila (also known as:

Chlamydiosis, Chlamydia psittaci) in it, as it's
  
an unnecessary vaccine with common

side effects and very little benefit. Ask for
  
Merial's PUREVAX rabies:

http://merialusa.naccvp.com/view.php?prodnum=058
and Heska's Feline ULTRANASAL

FVRCP: http://www.heska.com/ultranasal/pr_info.asp

Here's more about what adjuvants are:
  
http://www.tahealth.net/vas.html

Phaewryn

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Re: cat BM in inappropriate locations

2007-01-30 Thread Barb Moermond
Rubbermaid also makes high sided boxes with an entryway in one of the short 
sides.  The ones I have have 11 sides (on the 3 sides) and I've seen Bandit 
actually standing up and tinkling against the side, so it's definitely high 
enough - and he can be a vigorous digger too.  I got them at petsmart and I 
think I got some $ off with my pet perks card  can't remember for sure now.

Here's a link to the model I have:)

http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441808078FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302033737ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302023690bmUID=1170193454082itemNo=3In=CatN=2033737Ne=2
 

 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:22:46 PM
Subject: Re: cat BM in inappropriate locations


Try placing a new litter box near the old one (leave it).  I like the 
Rubbermaid 18 gallon boxes instead of the regular litter boxes--they give 
the cat more room to scratch and are high enough backed that, if the cat 
can't get down, urine isn't sprayed out.  You can cut a door out on the 
short side if you think the box is too high for the cat to jump in and out 
of.  Fill it with the litter he likes.  Now is no time to change litter or 
put a fragranced one in.  If he is associating the litter box with pain, and 
I have had that happen a number of times, a new one should help.

Also spray Feliway everyplace he has gone inappropriately.





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compassion and pity, you will have men who
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their fellow man.
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- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:28 PM
Subject: cat BM in inappropriate locations



 In a way, this is almost funny, and I hate to interject it between all
 the terribly serious things that are happening with other's cats and
 the desperate measures some are going to try and save their babies. My
 heart goes out to you, Paolo and Michelle in particular.

 Our ~12 y.o. FIV+ male, Otis, has begun defecating in various places
 around the house. The first incidence happened probably a month ago,
 when he was locked in the bedroom with no litter box for about 1/2 an
 hour (feeding time). He used the closet. We said stupid us and made
 sure never to do that again. A few days later, he went in the closet
 again. The doors were all open and he was never locked in.

 A month later, we found it in the bathroom, on the bathmat. Next, we
 found urine on the bathmat. The next day, he went right on the tile in
 the corner of the bathroom. Today, I *knew* he was going to do it, went
 in there and caught him, put him in the litterbox. He vaulted out of
 there like a teenager and headed right back to the bathroom. When he
 squatted, I picked him up, and, well, he did it anyway.

 My partner is a vet tech, and I held him while she expressed his anal
 glands today. One had a lot of relatively hard matter in it; the other
 seemed pretty normal. We were hoping that was the reason for his
 behavior. Lo, he went in the bathtub while we were out at the gym this
 evening -- just a small bit, but there it was.

 Did he develop a litterbox aversion because the anal gland was
 bothering him and just hasn't figured out that it will not hurt to use
 the litterbox? Or ... what on earth is going on? On the tile and in
 the bathtub are two of the least destructive choices he could make but
 naturally we want him in the litterbox!


 Lynette  =^..^=

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 the way in which its animals are treated. --Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948



 

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Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Barb Moermond
Of course we'll add our prayers to yours.  GLOW to you both for strength 
healing endurance and peace.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 11:52:47 AM
Subject: Please pray for Lucy



 


The vets are still all stumped by her case but think it is wet fip.  I 
have been researching feverishly and she is on a lot of meds and is eating, but 
otherwise seems to be going downhill. Someone on an fip list serve 
emailed me about a cat who had all the same symptoms plus additional ones 
who was not given any hope and was hospitalized and not eating.  The man 
got all his friends to pray for his cat, even though he himself was not 
religious, and his cat inexplicably completely recovered. The vets can not 
explain it, but it is 5 months later and he is fine. I have read medical 
studies 
saying that people who are prayed for tend to get better more frequently and 
faster, for whatever reason (the study was written by doctors from a medical, 
not religious, perspective and they offered no hypothesis of why). So I am 
asking all of you to pray for Lucy to get better, for her to start producing 
red 
blood cells again and for the fluid to go away from her belly and for her 
symptoms to all get better.  If you would pray for her even once,  I 
would appreciate it. I have tried everything else.

 

 

thanks as always,

Michelle







 

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Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-28 Thread Barb Moermond
I would love to see a picture of your sweet Lucy.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:53:28 PM
Subject: Re: Please pray for Lucy



 


I can't attach a picture to a post, but will mail you one offline. If 
anyone else wants me to do that, please let me know.

Thanks,

Michelle

 

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  Hi Michelle, I will be praying for Lucy - what does she look like so that 
  I can picture her?

   

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Re: Antonio

2007-01-16 Thread Barb Moermond
as it's a prescription diet, you probably need to have your vet call/fax a 
script

this link has the details about the food

http://www.royalcanin.us/vetdiet/felineurinary.html 

If you have a petsmart with an attached banfield clinic, they carry it - you'll 
need to have your vet call in the prescription and they'll give you a little 
card to use every time you buy it.  I live in Madison WI and there are only 2 
places in town I can get it - my vet's clinic and the one petsmart with a vet 
(the other one doesn't have a vet yet).


here's a link to their royal canin's retailer finder - you want to select the 
vet diet (i.e. prescription food)

http://www.royalcanin.us/retailer.html

 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 11:13:09 PM
Subject: Re: Antonio

Is it 'Royal Canin diet feline Urinary S/O'?  Where do you buy it?  The only 
place I've found it available online is in the UK... 


On 1/16/07, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
Elizabeth,
 
I just feed ALL my cats the prescription diet.  I use royal canin s/o which is 
for both types of crystals.  It's expensive, but I can't separate everyone's 
food..
t

elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you, Kerry.
 
***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)***
I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to 
opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago.  Those slap-happy receptionist 
people are USELESS.  If I had not asked a stream of questions I would have left 
there not knowing a d*mn thing about his condition or how serious it is.  The 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] technician brought poor 22lb Antonio out ON HIS BACK (he 
NEVER likes to be carried that way)...and he was in SO much pain.  He just peed 
everywhere, bless his little heart.  He was screaming.  This they did before I 
even had time to check out or talk to the vet or do anything.  Once they 
finally put him down and let me hold him - he was a perfect angel and didn't 
even pee on my silk shirt.  He loves his mommy.  
 
Then they forgot to give me the medicine he needs so I had to go back and get 
it.  They wouldn't have given me the special food if I had not said -- doesn't 
he need some special prescription food too?  
 
The whole time they are just as slaphappy as they can be yapping up a storm 
about how somebody did their hair or how cute some guy is or who did their 
nails.  Little do they know just how close they were to a big can opening.  I 
did my best to be gracious - but I am telling you - I STILL feel like going 
back down there!  That's my BABY! 
 
It's serious because there are so many crystals in his urine that he could have 
a complete blockage at any timeso I have to watch him carefully and make 
sure he only eats HIS food and nobody else eats his food.  Maybe it's just the 
8 days without nicotine but I honestly wanted to shake all of them and just pop 
their heads together.  Plus, it didn't help that my regular vet wasn't there.  
The one who was there is very competent...but refused to give Antonio anything 
for pain saying that the anti-inflammatory was enough for his pain.  I hope 
he gets this same condition and only gets a steriod shot. 
 
*** END RANT ALERT ***
Sorry -- it's going to take a few minutes before I can be nice again.  I 
promise, I'll try very hard.
 
elizabeth
 


 
On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
Sending positive vibes for your little Antonio--what a great and noble name!-- 
to start to feel better now he's had the steroid and antibiotics. hugs Kerryx 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: Antonio


Thank you, Phaewryn.  
 
I just talked to the vet.  Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his 
urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well.  No blockage - thank 
goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that.  They gave him a steroid 
for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing 
antibiotics for at least 14 days.  Wants me to change his diet to prescription 
c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten 
meal. 
 
Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed 
one cat one thing -- and seven others something else.  We had recently switched 
to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is 
what caused it. 
 
I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without 
him.  Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty.  and 
he is.
 
elizabeth

 
On 1/8/07, 

Re: Antonio

2007-01-16 Thread Barb Moermond
OK, I guess it's available in more clinics than just my vet's (just did a 
search) but they'd still have to phone the script over and the petsmart has 
better hours.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 11:13:09 PM
Subject: Re: Antonio

Is it 'Royal Canin diet feline Urinary S/O'?  Where do you buy it?  The only 
place I've found it available online is in the UK... 


On 1/16/07, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
Elizabeth,
 
I just feed ALL my cats the prescription diet.  I use royal canin s/o which is 
for both types of crystals.  It's expensive, but I can't separate everyone's 
food..
t

elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you, Kerry.
 
***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)***
I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to 
opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago.  Those slap-happy receptionist 
people are USELESS.  If I had not asked a stream of questions I would have left 
there not knowing a d*mn thing about his condition or how serious it is.  The 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] technician brought poor 22lb Antonio out ON HIS BACK (he 
NEVER likes to be carried that way)...and he was in SO much pain.  He just peed 
everywhere, bless his little heart.  He was screaming.  This they did before I 
even had time to check out or talk to the vet or do anything.  Once they 
finally put him down and let me hold him - he was a perfect angel and didn't 
even pee on my silk shirt.  He loves his mommy.  
 
Then they forgot to give me the medicine he needs so I had to go back and get 
it.  They wouldn't have given me the special food if I had not said -- doesn't 
he need some special prescription food too?  
 
The whole time they are just as slaphappy as they can be yapping up a storm 
about how somebody did their hair or how cute some guy is or who did their 
nails.  Little do they know just how close they were to a big can opening.  I 
did my best to be gracious - but I am telling you - I STILL feel like going 
back down there!  That's my BABY! 
 
It's serious because there are so many crystals in his urine that he could have 
a complete blockage at any timeso I have to watch him carefully and make 
sure he only eats HIS food and nobody else eats his food.  Maybe it's just the 
8 days without nicotine but I honestly wanted to shake all of them and just pop 
their heads together.  Plus, it didn't help that my regular vet wasn't there.  
The one who was there is very competent...but refused to give Antonio anything 
for pain saying that the anti-inflammatory was enough for his pain.  I hope 
he gets this same condition and only gets a steriod shot. 
 
*** END RANT ALERT ***
Sorry -- it's going to take a few minutes before I can be nice again.  I 
promise, I'll try very hard.
 
elizabeth
 


 
On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
Sending positive vibes for your little Antonio--what a great and noble name!-- 
to start to feel better now he's had the steroid and antibiotics. hugs Kerryx 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: Antonio


Thank you, Phaewryn.  
 
I just talked to the vet.  Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his 
urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well.  No blockage - thank 
goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that.  They gave him a steroid 
for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing 
antibiotics for at least 14 days.  Wants me to change his diet to prescription 
c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten 
meal. 
 
Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed 
one cat one thing -- and seven others something else.  We had recently switched 
to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is 
what caused it. 
 
I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without 
him.  Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty.  and 
he is.
 
elizabeth

 
On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Sending healing vibes and positive energy for Antonio!

Phaewryn
 
http://ucat.us
 
The easy way out has a bad reputation.
Why would anyone take the hard way out?
The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the 
window.
 
Quote by: Les U. Knight


 
IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was 
neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe  Maw LLP to 
be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the 

Re: Antonio

2007-01-16 Thread Barb Moermond
That's what I do too.  The s/o NORMALIZES the pH of the urine which deals with 
both struvite and oxalate AND makes it OK for the kitty without the problem to 
eat it too.
The only thing you really have to worry about is that the s/o is a pretty high 
calorie food.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:03:22 PM
Subject: Re: Antonio


Elizabeth,
 
I just feed ALL my cats the prescription diet.  I use royal canin s/o which is 
for both types of crystals.  It's expensive, but I can't separate everyone's 
food..
t

elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you, Kerry.
 
***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)***
I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to 
opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago.  Those slap-happy receptionist 
people are USELESS.  If I had not asked a stream of questions I would have left 
there not knowing a d*mn thing about his condition or how serious it is.  The 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] technician brought poor 22lb Antonio out ON HIS BACK (he 
NEVER likes to be carried that way)...and he was in SO much pain.  He just peed 
everywhere, bless his little heart.  He was screaming.  This they did before I 
even had time to check out or talk to the vet or do anything.  Once they 
finally put him down and let me hold him - he was a perfect angel and didn't 
even pee on my silk shirt.  He loves his mommy.  
 
Then they forgot to give me the medicine he needs so I had to go back and get 
it.  They wouldn't have given me the special food if I had not said -- doesn't 
he need some special prescription food too?  
 
The whole time they are just as slaphappy as they can be yapping up a storm 
about how somebody did their hair or how cute some guy is or who did their 
nails.  Little do they know just how close they were to a big can opening.  I 
did my best to be gracious - but I am telling you - I STILL feel like going 
back down there!  That's my BABY! 
 
It's serious because there are so many crystals in his urine that he could have 
a complete blockage at any timeso I have to watch him carefully and make 
sure he only eats HIS food and nobody else eats his food.  Maybe it's just the 
8 days without nicotine but I honestly wanted to shake all of them and just pop 
their heads together.  Plus, it didn't help that my regular vet wasn't there.  
The one who was there is very competent...but refused to give Antonio anything 
for pain saying that the anti-inflammatory was enough for his pain.  I hope 
he gets this same condition and only gets a steriod shot. 
 
*** END RANT ALERT ***
Sorry -- it's going to take a few minutes before I can be nice again.  I 
promise, I'll try very hard.
 
elizabeth
 


 
On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Sending positive vibes for your little Antonio--what a great and noble name!-- 
to start to feel better now he's had the steroid and antibiotics. hugs Kerryx 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Antonio


Thank you, Phaewryn.  
 
I just talked to the vet.  Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his 
urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well.  No blockage - thank 
goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that.  They gave him a steroid 
for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing 
antibiotics for at least 14 days.  Wants me to change his diet to prescription 
c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten 
meal. 
 
Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed 
one cat one thing -- and seven others something else.  We had recently switched 
to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is 
what caused it. 
 
I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without 
him.  Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty.  and 
he is.
 
elizabeth

 
On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Sending healing vibes and positive energy for Antonio!

Phaewryn
 
http://ucat.us
 
The easy way out has a bad reputation.
Why would anyone take the hard way out?
The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the 
window.
 
Quote by: Les U. Knight


 
IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was 
neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe  Maw LLP to 
be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax 
penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or 

Re: Angel Morgana

2007-01-15 Thread Barb Moermond
Kelley, I'm so so sorry.  GLOW to light her path and ease your heart.

HUG
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:40:00 AM
Subject: Angel Morgana

I'm so sad.  My little Morgana died less than an hour ago.  I noticed something 
was not right about the way she was lying and picked her up and she was doing 
that awful head lolling thing and panting.  I stuck her in a crate and drove as 
fast as I could to the emergency hospital but she passed before I could get 
there.  I gaev her her meds earlier and I wonder if she had a bad 
reaction...just 1/2 droppeful of amoxycillin and 1/2 periactin.  I feel like 
there was something I could have done to stop it.  My poor little girl was only 
3.  She is a white persian with big beautiful eyes.  She is a tiny girl, just 
5.25 pounds.

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Re: Antonio

2007-01-09 Thread Barb Moermond
oh lordy. cystitis is such a pain - literally for the poor babies.  One way 
to control who gets what is to have set meal times.  

Bandit gets the same food as Smoky by default.  The food we use is the Royal 
Canin Urinary SO - it normalizes pH so it's OK for kits w/o the problems.  But 
it is fairly high calorie.  Smoky had a HORRIBLE winter last year, twice to the 
ER even.  But on the SO food and the glucosamine/chondroitin supplement, Smoky 
hasn't had an outbreak since last February(knocking on wood).  For the 
glu/chon, I just buy the human stuff - the double strength and one capsule 
split between the two boys with their wet food supper.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 3:46:04 PM
Subject: Re: Antonio


Thank you, Phaewryn.  
 
I just talked to the vet.  Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his 
urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well.  No blockage - thank 
goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that.  They gave him a steroid 
for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing 
antibiotics for at least 14 days.  Wants me to change his diet to prescription 
c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten 
meal. 
 
Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed 
one cat one thing -- and seven others something else.  We had recently switched 
to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is 
what caused it. 
 
I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without 
him.  Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty.  and 
he is.
 
elizabeth

 
On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Sending healing vibes and positive energy for Antonio!

Phaewryn
 
http://ucat.us
 
The easy way out has a bad reputation.
Why would anyone take the hard way out?
The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the 
window.
 
Quote by: Les U. Knight

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Re: Antonio

2007-01-09 Thread Barb Moermond
oh lordy, once more, I am SO glad I have my vets!  They take pain control 
seriously and Smoky was on the acepromazine as an anti-spasmodic and we always 
went with the fentanyl patch because while the buprenex works well, it wears 
off and I can't stand seeing him in pain
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 5:19:14 PM
Subject: Re: Antonio


Thank you, Kerry.
 
***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)***
I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to 
opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago.  Those slap-happy receptionist 
people are USELESS.  If I had not asked a stream of questions I would have left 
there not knowing a d*mn thing about his condition or how serious it is.  The 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] technician brought poor 22lb Antonio out ON HIS BACK (he 
NEVER likes to be carried that way)...and he was in SO much pain.  He just peed 
everywhere, bless his little heart.  He was screaming.  This they did before I 
even had time to check out or talk to the vet or do anything.  Once they 
finally put him down and let me hold him - he was a perfect angel and didn't 
even pee on my silk shirt.  He loves his mommy.  
 
Then they forgot to give me the medicine he needs so I had to go back and get 
it.  They wouldn't have given me the special food if I had not said -- doesn't 
he need some special prescription food too?  
 
The whole time they are just as slaphappy as they can be yapping up a storm 
about how somebody did their hair or how cute some guy is or who did their 
nails.  Little do they know just how close they were to a big can opening.  I 
did my best to be gracious - but I am telling you - I STILL feel like going 
back down there!  That's my BABY! 
 
It's serious because there are so many crystals in his urine that he could have 
a complete blockage at any timeso I have to watch him carefully and make 
sure he only eats HIS food and nobody else eats his food.  Maybe it's just the 
8 days without nicotine but I honestly wanted to shake all of them and just pop 
their heads together.  Plus, it didn't help that my regular vet wasn't there.  
The one who was there is very competent...but refused to give Antonio anything 
for pain saying that the anti-inflammatory was enough for his pain.  I hope 
he gets this same condition and only gets a steriod shot. 
 
*** END RANT ALERT ***
Sorry -- it's going to take a few minutes before I can be nice again.  I 
promise, I'll try very hard.
 
elizabeth
 


 
On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Sending positive vibes for your little Antonio--what a great and noble name!-- 
to start to feel better now he's had the steroid and antibiotics. hugs Kerryx 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Antonio


Thank you, Phaewryn.  
 
I just talked to the vet.  Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his 
urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well.  No blockage - thank 
goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that.  They gave him a steroid 
for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing 
antibiotics for at least 14 days.  Wants me to change his diet to prescription 
c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten 
meal. 
 
Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed 
one cat one thing -- and seven others something else.  We had recently switched 
to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is 
what caused it. 
 
I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without 
him.  Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty.  and 
he is.
 
elizabeth

 
On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Sending healing vibes and positive energy for Antonio!

Phaewryn
 
http://ucat.us
 
The easy way out has a bad reputation.
Why would anyone take the hard way out?
The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the 
window.
 
Quote by: Les U. Knight


 
IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was 
neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe  Maw LLP to 
be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax 
penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers 
to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or 
other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the 
advice was written to support the promotion or 

Re: Antonio

2007-01-09 Thread Barb Moermond
and this is for struvite crystals??  he shouldn't have to be on that particular 
dissolving food for THAT long!!  3-4 weeks is what we did and Smoky didn't 
really like it so he never had it that long, but his regular food is that pH 
normalizing recipe, so the vet was OK w/that
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 5:30:01 PM
Subject: Re: Antonio


Thanks, MC.  I think what I will do is every morning and every evening...I'll 
set out their eight little bowls for an hour or so and supervise --making sure 
Antonio only gets his special food.  That way, we'll get on a schedule.  The 
advantage of this is that I will be able to see exactly who eats how much and 
who isn't eating properly...and technically it will be a better way to monitor 
their intake than just leaving all the dry food down all the time. 
 
The vet says that it will take months of this food before Antonio gets back to 
normal but after that it may be that he can go back to his regular food.  The 
vet tech that I do respect though told me separately that she guarentees if I 
go back to the other food, he'll get a stone. 
 
I just need to educate myself and tune in to these babies as much as I can and 
get them well.  I have a friend who has been a Reiki master since this 60s...I 
may take Antonio to see her.  Couldn't hurt.  Whatever it takes to make my 
babies as healthy as they can be and to feel better. 
 
elizabeth

 
On 1/8/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
aw, poor antonio, and you, too!

glad to hear he's not blocked. and it's always such a joy to have 
different kits on different foods, but it CAN be worked out!

GLOW to both of you.

MC

On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:



 Sending positive healing vibes for your sweet Antonio, Elizabeth. I hope the
 vet visit is productive and he feels a whole lot better soon. Please keep us
 posted when you get time. hugs to you and Antonio, Kerry M. 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of
 elizabeth trent
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 8:25 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: ot: Antonio

 
 Poor Antonio - I was up much of the night with himhe slept by my pillow
 with my arm around him.  He has some blood in his urine and possibly a
 kidney stoneplus, his glands need to be expressed so the poor boy just 
 feels rotten.  I made them promise me at the vet's they would give him some
 demerol.

 He's lost a pound too since he's been on the light formula...that's very
 good news. 

 I really hated leaving him at the vet's this morning but they told me I
 really needed to...they will do x-rays and they may have to extract some
 urine.  I'm just worried sick about him. 

 Please, if you would...send prayers...good thoughts...or whatever is your
 style for the dear boy.  We very much appreciate it.

 Thank you,
 elizabeth

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Re: Please add to CLS -- Alberta

2007-01-07 Thread Barb Moermond
Oh Kerry, I am so sorry... GLOW to light her path and ease your heart.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: Kerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2007 6:42:26 AM
Subject: Please add to CLS -- Alberta

Hi Belinda,
  I lost my 15 yr old Alberta early Friday morning..She is a negative kitty.  
Please add her to the CLS.  
  Thanks so much,
  Kerry, Angel Bandy, Inky and Angel Alberta
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Re: Marley

2006-12-29 Thread Barb Moermond
strength and calm are going out to both of you - thank you for caring for those 
babies as you do - they need all the lovin' they can get
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:51:11 PM
Subject: Marley


Hi all,I know I haven't posted in a while,which for me would be a good thing 
cause it is usually bad news.Well I just need to ask all of you to send out 
prayers for beautiful sweet (crying while writing this)marley.He is having a 
bad time right now and is getting fluids and is at Dr. Jens house.Well I feel 
really bad cause I had noticed on Monday that he was not quite himself and 
didn't let Jen know.Sometimes these guys have off days and are fine the 
next.Well last night when I got there he was the first one that I looked for to 
check on him and he just was not right.We had to cut packed poo off his butt 
and he was just a mess.I would feel just aweful if we lost him because I didn't 
notify her sooner.If I was there everyday I definitly would have been on top of 
it.I guess I should have called to check on him.So please add him to your 
prayers he is one of my most fav boys at Sids.He has long black silky hair and 
is the most gentle loving babies ever.Thank you all so
 much.Sorry for rambling
Sherry
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