date:20030206

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 08:40:07PM -0800, Nathan Kinkade wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 07:49:53PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
  Sorry for the OT question, but how does one view the contents of the
  binary logfiles?  I'm referring specifically to /var/log/sendmail.st
  and /var/log/wtmp.  I've looked in the syslog manpages and can't seem
  to find it.
  
  Thanks
  Lou
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 You can read:
 utmp with `w` or `who` 
 wtmp with `last`
 
 not sure about sendmail.st.

mailstats(8)

Cheers,

Matthew

PS.  Not to be confused with the mailstat command:

% mailstat
Most people don't type their own logfiles;  but, what do I care?

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Re: Problem with kernel rebuit

2003-02-06 Thread iulian

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:49:25 +0200
Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2003-02-05 11:42, iulian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello!
  I have 5.0 Release and I reconfigured my kernel for sound card.
  Everything was going fine, no errors, but my new kernel doesn't loaded.
  What should I do?
  Thanks!
 
 Make sure your /boot/loader.conf does't point to /kernel for the
 kernel location.  The kernel in 5.X versions is /boot/kernel/kernel.
 Your /boot/loader.conf file should, minimally, include:
 
   userconfig_script_load=YES
   bootfile=/boot/kernel/kernel
 
 - Giorgos
Thank you for your answer!
I have added it into loader.conf, but I don't really know what's happening because I 
have no output after the kernel is began to load.
I have verbose_loading=YES in loader.conf
I still no solved the problem.
Thanks!
 

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Re: How to change Telnet Prelogin message?

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 08:45:12PM -0800, Nathan Kinkade wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 11:17:30PM -0500, Michael wrote:
  Hey friends,
  I got a BBS up as you may know from my previous post, and i need to allow
  telnet access. I want a pre login message telling users to please only use
  telnet for BBS and to use SSH2 for shell access. FreeBSDdiary.org is down,
  and FreeBSD cheat sheets example has a much older GETTYTAB. Im almost
  positive you guys can have me hacking this in moments. Pour some knowledge
  on me. Thanks.
 
 motd(5)

Close, but motd is definitely post login.  /etc/issue can be used to
display a message on the console before the login prompt.  All you
need do is write some content into the file.  This file should work
using the standard gettytab(5) file under FreeBSD with both getty(8)
and telnetd(8), although I haven't tried using it with telnet recently
myself.  You want to look for use of the 'if' or the 'im' properties
in gettytab(5).

The equivalent for sshd(8) is to set the Banner property in
/etc/ssh/sshd_config, although this only works if you use the SSH2
protocol.

Cheers,

Matthew

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how to setup internal PCI modem under 5.0-RELEASE?

2003-02-06 Thread Crni Gorac

Am completely unable to figure out kernel settings
for modem.  Got US Robotics 56K internal modem, that
is working perfectly on same machine with 4.6-RELEASE.
 I had to put only device sio at pci? in my kernel
config file for 4.6 to have modem to answer at cuaa0. 
Now, I have device sio in my kernel config file fo
5.0 and have tried number of combinations with
/boot/device.hints settings without any success.  If I
delete all sio lines from /boot/device.hints, modem
is reported during boot as sio0, but hangs whole
system when I try to dial out.  If I delete only lines
sio.n (n=0,1,2,3) from /boot/device.hints (e.g.
sio.0) modem is again reported (and eventually
rellocated) and again hangs whole system.  Any help
here?

Thanks.


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Re: More SpamAssassin questions - it won't run.

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 11:19:26PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
 
 Here's what I see in the procmail output:
 procmail: Executing spamassassin,-a,-P
 Can't locate object method splitpath via package File::Spec at 
/usr/local/bin/spamassassin line 18.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/bin/spamassassin line 38.
 procmail: Program failure (2) of spamassassin
 procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded
 
 I know this is some kind of perl error, but I'm still quite a ways
 from guru status where that's concerned.  I've tried a few things, but
 I can't get this working.

You're using perl-5.005.03 as bundled with FreeBSD, and consequently
an older version of the File::Spec module.  That's something that
keeps popping up in various places.

You can tell what version of File::Spec you're using by:

% perl -MFile::Spec -e 'print $File::Spec::VERSION\n;'

I can tell you that spamassassin works without complaint using version
0.82 (as bundled with perl-5.6.1) or version 0.83 (as bundled with
perl-5.8.0).

You can install the devel/p5-File-Spec port to get version 0.82 for
the bundled perl, which should sort things out for you.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: BSD Loader

On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 10:04:45AM +0200, Alexey Babich wrote:

 Please  help  me  to  restore BSD Loader (BTX), because when I install
 Windows OS it brokes my MBR.
 
 bootinst.exe  in tools/ on installation CD can't help me - it installs
 loader  with  bugs  (as F??) and can't detect right OS on my computer,
 and  only  loader, installed during system installation, works with my
 system correctly, but i can't restore it.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#BOOTMANAGER-RESTORE

Cheers,

Matthew

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ATI Radeon 9000 question

2003-02-06 Thread a d

Hello everyone, I'm stuck with a Presario 2800-T model.
The good thing is that all the hardware worked except.
I wasn't able to make the video card ATI Radeon 9000 64MB work.
I was able to run the same video card but it was 7500 using
VESA in my kernel. and specifying that too in the X conf file.
Before I provide any logs I searched 250 emails ATI RADEON 9000
and similar combinations of search but no one saying
specifically if this modem of RADEON works on FreeBSD.
Before I get into trouble with the decision am going to make,
anyone can tell me if it is actually supported in XFree 4.2.x
If so I would just dig into it. Otherwise I would get into trouble
with a notebook that can't run X.  Thanks in advance.

P.S. I'm not subscribed to the list please CC me.

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Attempting to mount flashcard

2003-02-06 Thread Pat Lathem

Hello all. I'm trying to get my digital camera's flashcard reader 
working with FreeBSD 5.0-current.  When I try to mount the card 
(mount_msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt or mount -t msdos) I get a long delay 
(~1m)  followed by:

msdosfs: /dev/da0: Input/output error

This is displayed when I insert the card:

umass0: SCM Microsystems Inc. eUSB MultimediaCard Adapter, 
rev1.10/4.04,addr 2
(~30s pause)
umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT
da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lum 0
da0: eUSB MultiMediaCard  Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
da0: 15MB (31424 512 byte sectors: 64H 32/T 15C)

camcontrol devlist -v :
scbus0 on umass-sim0 bus 0:
eUSB MultiMediaCrd  at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (da0,pass0)
scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0
at scbus-1 target -1 lyn -1 (xpt0)

Can anyone provide some more information, or links (I have searched 
quite a bit) that I could use to figure out how to mount this device 
properly?

Thanks for your time,
Pat Lathem


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Re: Ports renaming

2003-02-06 Thread local.freebsd.questions

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:07:40 - , [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam
Weinberger) wrote:

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 (02.05.2003 @ 0248 PST): local.freebsd.questions said, in 0.3K: 
 Anyone like to shed any light on why a lot of the
 multimedia ports seem to be getting renamed recently?

Such as?

 I see -esound appearing as a suffix on a lot of package
 names (frinstance xmms). And I don't have Enlightentment
 installed.

Is this a separate question, or is this the renaming you refer to? ESD
is not restricted to Enlightenment. It's how GNOME handles sound.

That was indeed it. While running portupgrade I have seen a number
of the port has been renamed messages, and usually they have
grown an -esound on the end of the name.

Here's an extract from pkg_info:

esound-0.2.29   A sound library for enlightenment package
libmikmod-esound-3.1.10 MikMod Sound Library
mplayer-gtk-esound-0.90.0.103_1 High performance media player/encoder
supporting
 many forma
xmms-esound-1.2.7_3 X Multimedia System --- An audio player with a Winamp
GUI

hence my reference to Enlightenment.


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Re: USB or Firewire IDE drives

2003-02-06 Thread Antoine Jacoutot

On Thursday 06 February 2003 02:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was wondering if anyone has tried IDE drives connected via USB2.0
 or Firewire under 4.x or 5.x. Any information, even just a no this
 one doesn't work would be greatly appreciated.

Well, I have a USB 1.1 Hard Drive and it does not work under FreeBSD, so I 
doubt that USB 2 woudl work... unfortunately.

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Using gimp-print with gimp!

2003-02-06 Thread local.freebsd.questions

Is there any magic which has to be done to use
gimp-print from gimp apart from installing both?

I have them both installed from ports:

jura% pkg_info | grep gimp
gimp-1.2.3_2,1  the GNU Image Manipulation Program
gimp-print-4.2.4GIMP Print Printer Driver

I know gimp-print is the latest version:

jura% gimpprint-config --version
4.2.4

I know it can handle an Epson Stylus Photo 950:

escp2-950EPSON Stylus Photo 950

(from man gimpprint-models)

However, if I load an image into gimp, right-click
and select file-print:

- the dialog box title is Print v4.0.5 - 15 Jun 2001

- the new printer button isn't present, though it 
  appears in the documentation

- the Stylus Photo 950 doesn't appear in the list

Am I somehow using a vestigial version of gimp-print
built into gimp and not the one from the port?

jim

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Re: Newbie Wireless Networking

2003-02-06 Thread Dan Pelleg

Scot Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I recently converted my old HP Pavilion 6330 to FreeBSD 4.5. It has 48 MB
 RAM, 4GB hard drive, and 300 Mhz AMD K-6 processor.
 
 
 I also have a small wireless network in my home. An Apple Airport base
 station w/ iMac and iBook, both running Mac OS 10.2.3 Jaguar.
 
 
   I'd like to try and get the HP on the network. I got a Linksys PCI card
   (WMP11) and installed it. I checked the kernel config and it included wi,
   awi, an, etc. This lead me to believe that wireless networking was
   configured into the kernel.  However, the system doesn't seem to recognize
   the PCI card. I'm unsure, however, whether the specific PCI card I'm using
   is supported, or I'm just doing something stupid (which is quite
   possible).  I used ifconfig and sysinstall to attempt to configure the
   networking card. But like I said, it doesn't show up. If I could get the
   card to work, my plan would be to use DHCP to join the network.
 
 
 I'm basically a novice. I've been working my way through _FreeBSD Unleashed_
 to try and figure this out, but I seem to be stuck. Any pointers would be
 greatly appreciated. If I could get this thing up on the network it would
 make my day.
 
 

My first guess would be that pccardd isn't running. In any case, you'll
probably want to read through:

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/11/02/Big_Scary_Daemons.html

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FreeBSD 5.0 installation, boot: fatal trap 12

2003-02-06 Thread Oleksandr Konovalenko


Hi!

 During the installation (from CD, I've tried both
mini-disc and disc1) of FreeBSD 5.0 on my laptop
Packard Bell iGO2451 (AMD AthlonXP +1500, 1.3GHz) I've
got following:

...
cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0
pccard0: 16 bit PCCard bus on vbb0


Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode

fault virtual address  = 0xe7fe6
fault code = supervisor read, page not
present
instruction pointer= 0x8:0xc00e9eb5
stack pointer  = 0x10:0xc0a8299c
frame pointer  = 0x10:0xc0a8299c
code segment   = base 0x0, limit 0xf, type
0x16
   = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran
1
processor eflags   = interrupt enabled, resume,
IOPL = 0
current process= 0 (swapper)
trap number= 12
panic: page fault
uptime 1s
-

Note#1, there is only one PCMCIA slot in laptop and it
was empty during the boot.

Note#2, there is no internal floppy drive.

Note#3, No any problem to install NetBSD 1.5.2 or
Linux RH 7.3 with 2.4.20 kernel.

Note#4, I tried to disable some devices in BIOS but it
did not help.

Question: what might be wrong?

regards,
 Alexander K.


 PS: Hardware specifications (from
http://www.packardbell.se/support/node485.asp):

BIOS v. 1.02

PC Card   Texas Instruments PCI-4410 PC Card
Controller
32 bit PC-Card Bus

Video S3 Savage 4S Video Controller
High-Performance 2D/3D Video Accelerator, integrated
in mainboard.

Sound Realtek ALC201 Audio System
18-bit, full duplex AC'97 2.2 compatible stereo audio
CODEC.

Core VIA Apollo KN133 chipset
200/266 MHz Front Side Bus, Savage4 AGP 4X graphics
core.

Display LCD 14.1'' TFT XGA
LCD 14.1 TFT XGA

Keyboard and pointing device Synaptics Touchpad
Touch-sensitive control pad.

4-Way Scrolling Button
Multi-directional scrolling function

KME UJDA730 Combo Drive
One drive which can read, write and re-write CD's but
also reads DVD's. 8x DVD, 8x Write, 4x ReWrite, 20x
Read.

Memory Memory iGo 2000 series
* 1 SO-DIMM Slot
* Size: 256 MB
* Type: SDRAM (PC133)


Modem Billionton MDC56S-I Modem
V92 MDC interface modem (Smartlink chipset ref.
HAMR5600-INT)

Network LSI L80227 Network Controller
100/10 Base T Ethernet integrated in VIA VT8231




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Re: Creating a Mirror of my own site

2003-02-06 Thread Daniel Bye

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 11:34:56PM -0500, Matt Winslow wrote:
 I'm trying to run dual servers (for redundancy...and just to learn), and
 need help on easy ways to maintain a second server, that will perfectly
 mirror the data on the first.  Is using rsync running every minute a good
 option?  Are there better ones?  Also, how do I set the second server to use
 the passwords/permissons from the main server.

I use rsync for the same purpose (and to make local backups of the data
on the web servers).  How busy do you expect the boxes to be?  I'm not
sure running it every minute is desirable, but if they are not particularly
heavily loaded, it should be fine.  Be prepared to tweak, though, until
you find the right balance between performance and synchronous data.

As for passwords and permissions, I guess you are talking about passwords
etc for access to .htaccess-protected areas?  If so, make sure your passwd
database (the apache-specific one, not the /etc/passwd!) is included in
the rsync runs.  rsync will allow you to preserve file ownership and
permissions during the transfer, so this shouldn't be a worry - just
read the man page and select the appropriate options.

Depending on how sophisticated you want to be, you can run the rsync in
job in pull mode from the slave server, so it can restart the web server
if you change its config on the master machine.  The possibilities are
endless, though.  Play with it and have fun!

Dan
 
 Thanks for your help in advance.  Links to resources are appreciated, so I
 can learn.
 
 Matt Winslow
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Re: More SpamAssassin questions - it won't run.

2003-02-06 Thread Louis LeBlanc

On 02/06/03 09:39 AM, Matthew Seaman sat at the `puter and typed:
 On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 11:19:26PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
  
  Here's what I see in the procmail output:
  procmail: Executing spamassassin,-a,-P
  Can't locate object method splitpath via package File::Spec at 
/usr/local/bin/spamassassin line 18.
  BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/bin/spamassassin line 38.
  procmail: Program failure (2) of spamassassin
  procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded
  
  I know this is some kind of perl error, but I'm still quite a ways
  from guru status where that's concerned.  I've tried a few things, but
  I can't get this working.
 
 You're using perl-5.005.03 as bundled with FreeBSD, and consequently
 an older version of the File::Spec module.  That's something that
 keeps popping up in various places.
 
 You can tell what version of File::Spec you're using by:
 
 % perl -MFile::Spec -e 'print $File::Spec::VERSION\n;'

This tells me that I'm running 0.6, but pkg_info confirms that I have
the 0.82 port installed.  The spamassassin port does require the
p5-File-Spec port, but doesn't seem to use it.

 I can tell you that spamassassin works without complaint using version
 0.82 (as bundled with perl-5.6.1) or version 0.83 (as bundled with
 perl-5.8.0).
 
 You can install the devel/p5-File-Spec port to get version 0.82 for
 the bundled perl, which should sort things out for you.

Somehow I don't think that's quite enough.  I tried Adrian's
suggestion and modified the use statement as follows:
use File::Spec 0.82;

But that didn't really help, now I get this:

procmail: Executing spamassassin,-a,-P
File::Spec version 0.82 required--this is only version 0.6 at
/usr/local/bin/spamassassin line 6.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/bin/spamassassin line 6.
procmail: [10564] Thu Feb  6 08:26:02 2003
procmail: Program failure (255) of spamassassin
procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded

Next, I decided to reinstall the port, and I noticed the following:

Writing
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-freebsd/auto/File/Spec/.packlist
## Differing version of File/Spec.pm found. You might like to
rm /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/File/Spec.pm
## Differing version of File/Spec/Mac.pm found. You might like to
rm /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/File/Spec/Mac.pm
## Differing version of File/Spec/OS2.pm found. You might like to
rm /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/File/Spec/OS2.pm
## Differing version of File/Spec/Unix.pm found. You might like to
rm /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/File/Spec/Unix.pm
## Differing version of File/Spec/VMS.pm found. You might like to
rm /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/File/Spec/VMS.pm
## Differing version of File/Spec/Win32.pm found. You might like to
rm /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/File/Spec/Win32.pm
## Running 'make install UNINST=1' will unlink all those files for you.
Appending installation info to /usr/local/lib/perllocal.pod

What's the danger of uninstalling these?  Presumably most of what
works with 0.6 should work with 0.82, right?  Should UNINST=1 always
be used?  Never?  If I do remove a perl module that's part of the base
distribution, and something breaks, how would I go about replacing it?

TIA
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Re: Recovering deleted mail from a mailbox

2003-02-06 Thread Lowell Gilbert

Willie Viljoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This is a shot in the dark, but I'll try it anyway. Mail has been 
 (mysteriously) deleted from a mailbox in /var/mail. rm -W does not help. 
 Does anyone know of any method (third party software included) that can be 
 used to attempt to recover the mail from the file system?

It could depend on exactly how the mail managed to disappear, but in
general it's pretty unlikely.  Especially in a busy mail directory.

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Re: Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5?

I swear I remember reading something on the FreeBSD site saying that you
shouldn't just upgrade from 4.x to 5.0, because it's still kind of in the
beta stage and some apps might not work properly. Especially on a production
server.
The suggested way to upgrade to 5.0, was to backup everything on the current
machine and install 5.0 from scatch then load from backups.
I could be wrong, so find out for sure or just try it, but make sure you
backup.


- Original Message -
From: Asenchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Johannes Angeldorff [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:23 PM
Subject: RE: Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5?


 Johannes,

 My interpretation of your email is that you need to look into CVSup.  Read
 this link:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html

 And when it comes to making the make.conf file, read this:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html

 These will help you upgrade your entire os without much hassle.  You could
 also Google cvsup and see what you find there...

 Hope this helps,

 Curt Micol

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Johannes
 Angeldorff
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:14 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5?


 Dear FreeBSD:ers,

 I am happy to use FreeBSD for web, mail and applications serving. But
 when I come to the question about how to upgrade to a newer FreeBSD
 version, I really could need your expertise!

 We have two FreeBSD 4.5 boxes. Both boxes have been installed with
 FreeBSD 4.5 from CD, and then tweaked with reconfigured kernels and a
 few applications installed, mainly qmail (replacing sendmail),
 mod-php, mysql, pico and a few more. Both boxes have around 25 users
 each. Both boxes have tweaked settings in /etc/rc.conf and some other
 /etc/-files.

 My question is, if anyone can give a hint on how to upgrade safely
 from FreeBSD 4.5 to FreeBSD 5.0...?

 If we download FreeBSD 5.0 and install it on our FreeBSD 4.5 boxes,
 what will we have to do? Is there risk that all settings, contents
 and installed applications will be erased?

 Very thankful for all help on this matter...!
 --
 Regards,
 Smartnet Sverige AB

 Johannes Angeldorff

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Re: BSD Loader

You can also try this.
http://gag.sourceforge.net/

It tries to find all OSes on the all partitions.
It's not too bad.

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From: Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alexey Babich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: BSD Loader

 On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 10:04:45AM +0200, Alexey Babich wrote:

  Please  help  me  to  restore BSD Loader (BTX), because when I install
  Windows OS it brokes my MBR.

  bootinst.exe  in tools/ on installation CD can't help me - it installs
  loader  with  bugs  (as F??) and can't detect right OS on my computer,
  and  only  loader, installed during system installation, works with my
  system correctly, but i can't restore it.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#BOOTM
ANAGER-RESTORE

 Cheers,

 Matthew

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Re: dhcp

Jason Cave wrote:

Is there another way for FreeBSD to check for a DHCP server, like =
another program.  dhclient just says
address family and protocal family are incompatable.  FreeBSD use to =
work and other Linux OS's can
see it without problems.  Its a connection where the DHCP server has to =
assign the ip or the ip isnt
allowed outside the network.


I've never seen dhclient have trouble with any DHCP server.

What version of FreeBSD?  You say it used to work, when did it stop working?
Did you upgrade?

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Re: More SpamAssassin questions - it won't run.

On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 08:36:34AM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
 On 02/06/03 09:39 AM, Matthew Seaman sat at the `puter and typed:
  On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 11:19:26PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
   
   Here's what I see in the procmail output:
   procmail: Executing spamassassin,-a,-P
   Can't locate object method splitpath via package File::Spec at 
/usr/local/bin/spamassassin line 18.
   BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/bin/spamassassin line 38.
   procmail: Program failure (2) of spamassassin
   procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded
   
   I know this is some kind of perl error, but I'm still quite a ways
   from guru status where that's concerned.  I've tried a few things, but
   I can't get this working.
  
  You're using perl-5.005.03 as bundled with FreeBSD, and consequently
  an older version of the File::Spec module.  That's something that
  keeps popping up in various places.
  
  You can tell what version of File::Spec you're using by:
  
  % perl -MFile::Spec -e 'print $File::Spec::VERSION\n;'
 
 This tells me that I'm running 0.6, but pkg_info confirms that I have
 the 0.82 port installed.  The spamassassin port does require the
 p5-File-Spec port, but doesn't seem to use it.
 
  I can tell you that spamassassin works without complaint using version
  0.82 (as bundled with perl-5.6.1) or version 0.83 (as bundled with
  perl-5.8.0).
  
  You can install the devel/p5-File-Spec port to get version 0.82 for
  the bundled perl, which should sort things out for you.
 
 Somehow I don't think that's quite enough.  I tried Adrian's
 suggestion and modified the use statement as follows:
 use File::Spec 0.82;
 
 But that didn't really help, now I get this:
 
 procmail: Executing spamassassin,-a,-P
 File::Spec version 0.82 required--this is only version 0.6 at
 /usr/local/bin/spamassassin line 6.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/bin/spamassassin line 6.
 procmail: [10564] Thu Feb  6 08:26:02 2003
 procmail: Program failure (255) of spamassassin
 procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded
 
 Next, I decided to reinstall the port, and I noticed the following:
 
 Writing
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-freebsd/auto/File/Spec/.packlist
 ## Differing version of File/Spec.pm found. You might like to
 rm /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/File/Spec.pm
 ## Differing version of File/Spec/Mac.pm found. You might like to
 rm /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/File/Spec/Mac.pm
 ## Differing version of File/Spec/OS2.pm found. You might like to
 rm /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/File/Spec/OS2.pm
 ## Differing version of File/Spec/Unix.pm found. You might like to
 rm /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/File/Spec/Unix.pm
 ## Differing version of File/Spec/VMS.pm found. You might like to
 rm /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/File/Spec/VMS.pm
 ## Differing version of File/Spec/Win32.pm found. You might like to
 rm /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/File/Spec/Win32.pm
 ## Running 'make install UNINST=1' will unlink all those files for you.
 Appending installation info to /usr/local/lib/perllocal.pod
 
 What's the danger of uninstalling these?  Presumably most of what
 works with 0.6 should work with 0.82, right?  Should UNINST=1 always
 be used?  Never?  If I do remove a perl module that's part of the base
 distribution, and something breaks, how would I go about replacing it?

UNINST=1 will fix the problem only until the next time you do a
{build,install}world, when the bundled File::Spec module will
reappear.  Plus it's not obvious how to get the port system to apply
it when installing a perl module.

The problem is that the location of the updated port is lower down
perl's library search path than the standard libraries.  You can see
the search path by:

% perl -e 'print join(\n, @INC), \n;'

You can prepend directories to the search path by setting PERL5LIB or
PERLLIB in the environment. eg. try:

env PERL5LIB=/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005 spamassassin ...

and see if that lets you find the up to date File::Spec module before
the old one.

You can achieve much the same effect from within perl by inserting:

BEGIN {
  unshift @INC, /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005;
}

at the top of the script, before any of the 'use ...' lines.

About the only other alternative is to install one of perl ports,
which have a sufficiently up to date File::Spec module anyhow.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Apache built correctly?

2003-02-06 Thread T Kellers



Thank Mike,

It certainly helped me; I noticed the tcp6 thing, but hadn't had time to chase 
down the documentation.

Tim Kellers
CPE/NJIT
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 07:05 pm, Mike Loiterman wrote:
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  On Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:31 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mike Loiterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:11 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mike Loiterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Absolutly nothing appears in the httpd-access.log file when I
  try to access the index.html.
 
  When I try to do http://localhost I get nothing.  Just this:
  unable to connect to remote host.
 
  I've restarted apache many times with the same results.  I
  restarted my machine with the same results.
 
  I can telnet into port 80 but Apache doesn't appear to answer.
  Something tells me that the daemon isn't running correctly or
  that Apache was installed incorrectly, although 'ps -aux | grep
  httpd' shows:
 
  What does doesn't appear to answer mean?  The fact that you can
  telnet in tells you that it isn't a network-layer issue.  Did you
  try a legitimate HTTP request?
 
  Well I telnet to 80 and it just says refused:
 
  [02:22:47 root@little_boy: /etc/mail]# telnet localhost 80 Trying
  127.0.0.1... telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection
  refused telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
 
  Ah.  So you *can't* telnet into port 80.  That's different.
  Use sockstat(1) to see if anything is bound to port 80, and look at
  firewall rules to see if something's blocking it before it gets
  there.
 
  [13:41:19 root@little_boy: /etc/mail]# sockstat | grep 80
  www  httpd  30322 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
  www  httpd  30321 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
  www  httpd  30320 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
  www  httpd  30319 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
  www  httpd  30318 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
  root httpd  30309 3  tcp6   *:80  *:*
 
  Hrmm...seems to be bound to thr right ports???  I'm not sure how to
  check
 
  the firewall rules, as this machine is already behind a firewall.
  Even so, wouldn't the http://localhost bypass any firewall stuff?
 
  It's bound to the right ports, but it's only listening on the IPv6
  address -- not the IPv4 address.  I'm not sure what the fix for this
  is, but this has been discussed on the list recently -- check the
  archives.

 Matt:
 You were 100% on the mark.

 For anyone that is interested -- just add the following lines in your
 httpd.conf file:

 Listen 0.0.0.0:80
 Listen [::]:80

 And it works perfectly.  This is a known problem with Apache2 although it
 isn't well documented.  Hopefully this will help someone else.

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Re: OT: Muttrc gpg

2003-02-06 Thread Andrew Stuart

On Tue, 04 Feb 2003 at 14:40:52 -0600, Brian Henning wrote:
 Hello-
 i just got gpg configured for my bsd machine now i am ready to integrate it with
 mutt. is there a simple way to sign my emails like a script to make it easy to
 configure? i have seen a few example on the web and they look pretty
 complicated.
 Thanks,
 
 brian
 
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Im going to suggest you look at this archive: 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=5545+8455+/usr/local/www/db/text/2003/freebsd-questions/20030112.freebsd-questions

included in it is Kris Kennaway's mutt-gpg configuration, and if you
read over it, it has a place (pgp_sign_as=) where you set your key id,
otherwise it is pretty much automatic.

download it, and put it with your .muttrc, or .mutt/muttrc, and edit
muttrc, adding a line like: source ~/.mutt/gpgrc or whatever you call
it.

if you need some more help let me know..

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Re: FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE and pcm

2003-02-06 Thread Lord Sith

Yeah, I got tired of having no success with the modules so I tried compiling 
the sbc and pcm drivers directly into the kernel.

Suprise! It now works.

So why doesn't it work with the KLMs?

From: Rod Person [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lord Sith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE and pcm

Did rebuild your kernel and place the line,
	device pcm
in your kernel config file?

Rod

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cleaning old messages from mailboxes

2003-02-06 Thread Sergei Vyshenski

How it is possible to forcibly remove old messages from users' mailboxes?

Say on a daily basis, all messages that are 2 weeks old are
removed from all system mailboxes.

Something like a batch analog of mail utility?

Thank you very much for any comment ahead of time.
Sergei


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Re: cleaning old messages from mailboxes

2003-02-06 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik



On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Sergei Vyshenski wrote:

 Something like a batch analog of mail utility?

Check the 'formail' which comes with procmail.

Dw.


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Re: FreeBSD 5.0 installation, boot: fatal trap 12

2003-02-06 Thread Lord Sith

Have you tried booting without ACPI?

I've had all sorts of problems with FreeBSD's ACPI. In fact, I have yet to 
install it on a box that it doesn't panic, hang or break something.

To do this, interrupt the kernel countdown and then do this:

set hint.acpi.0.disabled=1
boot

From: Oleksandr Konovalenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FreeBSD 5.0 installation, boot: fatal trap 12
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 04:01:33 -0800 (PST)
Hi!

 During the installation (from CD, I've tried both
mini-disc and disc1) of FreeBSD 5.0 on my laptop
Packard Bell iGO2451 (AMD AthlonXP +1500, 1.3GHz) I've
got following:

...
cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0
pccard0: 16 bit PCCard bus on vbb0


Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode

fault virtual address  = 0xe7fe6
fault code = supervisor read, page not
present
instruction pointer= 0x8:0xc00e9eb5
stack pointer  = 0x10:0xc0a8299c
frame pointer  = 0x10:0xc0a8299c
code segment   = base 0x0, limit 0xf, type
0x16
   = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran
1
processor eflags   = interrupt enabled, resume,
IOPL = 0
current process= 0 (swapper)
trap number= 12
panic: page fault
uptime 1s
-

Note#1, there is only one PCMCIA slot in laptop and it
was empty during the boot.

Note#2, there is no internal floppy drive.

Note#3, No any problem to install NetBSD 1.5.2 or
Linux RH 7.3 with 2.4.20 kernel.

Note#4, I tried to disable some devices in BIOS but it
did not help.

Question: what might be wrong?

regards,
 Alexander K.


 PS: Hardware specifications (from
http://www.packardbell.se/support/node485.asp):

BIOS v. 1.02

PC Card   Texas Instruments PCI-4410 PC Card
Controller
32 bit PC-Card Bus

Video S3 Savage 4S Video Controller
High-Performance 2D/3D Video Accelerator, integrated
in mainboard.

Sound Realtek ALC201 Audio System
18-bit, full duplex AC'97 2.2 compatible stereo audio
CODEC.

Core VIA Apollo KN133 chipset
200/266 MHz Front Side Bus, Savage4 AGP 4X graphics
core.

Display LCD 14.1'' TFT XGA
LCD 14.1 TFT XGA

Keyboard and pointing device Synaptics Touchpad
Touch-sensitive control pad.

4-Way Scrolling Button
Multi-directional scrolling function

KME UJDA730 Combo Drive
One drive which can read, write and re-write CD's but
also reads DVD's. 8x DVD, 8x Write, 4x ReWrite, 20x
Read.

Memory Memory iGo 2000 series
* 1 SO-DIMM Slot
* Size: 256 MB
* Type: SDRAM (PC133)


Modem Billionton MDC56S-I Modem
V92 MDC interface modem (Smartlink chipset ref.
HAMR5600-INT)

Network LSI L80227 Network Controller
100/10 Base T Ethernet integrated in VIA VT8231




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Re: manufacturing

Kenzo wrote:

My boss just presented me with an Idea.
He wants for me to build couple computers to use on the manufacturing floor
using linux or Freebsd.


I set up almost the exact same system for a client of mine.  They _do_ use
Windows, however, and I'll explain why (although I can't say that I think
it's the best possible solution).
1) The database that tracks all their engineering data was written in
   Foxpro (although that's going to change) and Fox only runs on Windows.
2) Their engineering drawings are in AutoCAD.  AutoDesk provides the Volo
   view software that give pan/zoom capabilities in a read-only package.
   Again, only runs in Windows.  And Volo view is free (dollar-wise).
3) The hardware itself was trickled down when the admins got their new
   computers that were trickled down from engineering.  IOW, the computers
   are about 5 years old, and already had Windows on them from when they
   were new.


The computers will only need a web browser and some type of remote control.


How are you going to view CAD files in a web browser? (I'm curious, I may be
able to use the info)
For remote control, ssh can be scripted to do commands.  If you're sure about
the security of your network, you could even use rsh.


The reason is this.
We're a manufacturing plant, with of course a manufacturing line.  On the
lines, they have drawings and schematics, that the workers need to look at.
well right now, what they do is print those out and post them at every
workstations.
what they would like is a computer at every workstation that can use a
browser to look at a webpage where the drawings and schematics will be
located.


I can give you 2 pieces of information on this plan ...
1) It's well worth the time and effort, makes everything easier and more
   likely to be up to date and correct.
2) It probably won't go as smoothly as you like.  We found that the
   engineer's drawings weren't nearly as organized as they claimed, and
   the results were mistakes and shop workers sitting around the engineering
   department while the engineers figured out where the drawings were.  The
   result was also that engineering has gotten a lot more organized ;)


They don't feel like spending 500 bucks for a new windows machine, so we
figure we could just use our old computers for that.


Makes sense.  Most shop environments are hell on computers, and they'll have
quite a short lifespan.


They will also need some type of remote control, they were thinking that one
operator would be in charge of connecting to all the computers and opening
the webpage.  I was thinking of using someting like VNC.


Oops ... that may be a tall order for ssh or rsh.  You could also set up a
single machine and make the rest X-terminals.


Now, what would be the best way to accomplish this?
He is more geared toward a linux box with redhat, but I would rather setup a
computer with Freebsd that would do all the trick.
what x-window manager should I use?


Were it me, I'd use something plain-jane like Enlightenment or twm or some
other minimal WM, to keep them from playing around.


what should I use for web browser?


Mozilla, Opera, or Galeon.


Will using VNC work?


Probably, but test the performance first.


I was thinking of only connecting a monitor to those
workstations and have no keyboards and mouse.


How do the users control things then?  You're going to have the shop manager
control everything completely?  Interesting twist.  We found it to be very
efficient to let the operator control their own computer.  But then again,
the software I wrote allows them to click on the job they're working on and
the drawing they need just pops up ... so the back-end logic is important
to the success of that scheme.

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Re: manufacturing

2003-02-06 Thread Chuck Swiger

Interesting question-- hope I can help.

Kenzo wrote:
[ ... ]

what they would like is a computer at every workstation that can use a
browser to look at a webpage where the drawings and schematics will be
located.


Using Apache as a document store works pretty well, but it helps to have 
some kind of publishing mechanism.  mod_dav could be a start.

They don't feel like spending 500 bucks for a new windows machine, so we
figure we could just use our old computers for that.


Sure.  You probably can get away with using just X terminals, or even 
simply long video cables.  :-)

Now, what would be the best way to accomplish this?
He is more geared toward a linux box with redhat, but I would rather setup a
computer with Freebsd that would do all the trick.
what x-window manager should I use?  I know KDE uses alot of resources, but
what about gnome?
what should I use for web browser?

[ ... ]

Will using VNC work? I was thinking of only connecting a monitor to those
workstations and have no keyboards and mouse.


Are the factory workers going to interact with their workstations at 
all?  Or is the central operator going to do everything, and the workers 
will just look at an image on the screen?

If that's the case, there's no need to run VNC, an X window manager, or 
a browser.  See man xhost and the -display option; the operator can 
simply run a command which will remotely display the image to each 
workstation.  Check out /usr/ports/x11/xloadimage

Approximately how many stations and how far apart are they?

-Chuck


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Re: manufacturing

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From: Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Kenzo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: manufacturing

 Interesting question-- hope I can help.

 Kenzo wrote:
 [ ... ]
  what they would like is a computer at every workstation that can use a
  browser to look at a webpage where the drawings and schematics will be
  located.

 Using Apache as a document store works pretty well, but it helps to have
 some kind of publishing mechanism.  mod_dav could be a start.

  They don't feel like spending 500 bucks for a new windows machine, so we
  figure we could just use our old computers for that.

 Sure.  You probably can get away with using just X terminals, or even
 simply long video cables.  :-)

  Now, what would be the best way to accomplish this?
  He is more geared toward a linux box with redhat, but I would rather
setup a
  computer with Freebsd that would do all the trick.
  what x-window manager should I use?  I know KDE uses alot of resources,
but
  what about gnome?
  what should I use for web browser?
 [ ... ]
  Will using VNC work? I was thinking of only connecting a monitor to
those
  workstations and have no keyboards and mouse.

 Are the factory workers going to interact with their workstations at
 all?  Or is the central operator going to do everything, and the workers
 will just look at an image on the screen?

The workers will only need to look at the screen and not interact.

 If that's the case, there's no need to run VNC, an X window manager, or
 a browser.  See man xhost and the -display option; the operator can
 simply run a command which will remotely display the image to each
 workstation.  Check out /usr/ports/x11/xloadimage

I will look into that. Sounds interesting.

 Approximately how many stations and how far apart are they?

At this point I don't know how many stations will be required and how far
appart they are.
they just want me to come up with something and have some demo to show the
VPs and hopefully sell the idea.

 -Chuck

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Re: VPN tunnels

[Could you wrap your lines please, you'll get better response]

Wire James wrote:

Hello

I installed a VPN connecting 3 sites together using IPSEC and Racoon on Free BSD. Each site

has a FBSD gateway with a LAN. The sites are interconnected with Frame relay links. However
occasionally these links go down, thereby cutting the connections and so the tunnels become
inactive.

The problem am facing is that whenever the links come back up, racoon does not auto negotiate

to reactivate the tunnels what could I be doing wron ? I always have to restart racoon manually.

Whats the way forward for me ? Or is it the normal behaviour of FBSD ?

I don't know if the behaviour is normal or not.

But there's a port somewhere that I used a few years ago to solve a similar problem. I looked,
but I can't remember the name, and now I can't find it (I'm hoping someone will read this
message and know what I'm talking about, thus providing the answer).

Anyway, this port was a simple program that ran as a daemon and monitored network status, when
it saw an interface go down, or a host disappear (all configurable) it would run a script of
your choosing. It would then run a different script when the host became available again.
We used it for a similar situation (wireless LAN would drop frequently) and it worked
wonderfully.

Hope you can find it, or someone knows the port I'm talking about.

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XFree86 and Samsung 191T

2003-02-06 Thread Volker Kindermann

Hi,

recently I'd done me a favour and bought a Samsung SyncMaster 191T
TFT-Display. It has two input terminals:

a 15 pin D-Sub (Analog RGB) and a Digital DVI-D (Digital RGB).

I have two computers attached to it and the one on the analog terminal
works just fine.

The problem is XFree86 with the digital input. The manufactorer's specs
have the following settings:

frequency:  horizontal (digital): 30-63.3 kHz
vertikal: 56-85 Hz

If I configure this in XF86Config I get a flickered screen and no usable
picture.

I run 4.7 stable, my graphic card is a leadtek winfast titanium 200
(geforce 3).

Has anyone an similar Display and got it running with FreeBSD 4 stable?

$ uname -a
FreeBSD osiris.volker.de 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #0: Tue Feb  4
10:20:13 CET 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/OSIRIS 
i386


XF86Config (comments trimmed):

Section Module
Loaddbe   # Double buffer extension
SubSection  extmod
  Optionomit xfree86-dga   # don't initialise the DGA
extension
EndSubSection
Loadtype1
Loadfreetype
EndSection
Section Files
RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard1
Driver  Keyboard
Option AutoRepeat 500 30
Option XkbRules   xfree86
Option XkbModel   microsoft
Option XkbLayout  de
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse1
Driver  mouse
Option ProtocolMouseSystems
Option Device  /dev/sysmouse
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier  Samsung_191T
HorizSync   30 - 63.3
VertRefresh 56-85
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Standard VGA
VendorName  Unknown
BoardName   Unknown
Driver vga
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Geforce3
Driver  nv
#VideoRam131072
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Screen 1
Device  Geforce3
Monitor Samsung_191T
DefaultDepth 24

Subsection Display
Depth   8
Modes   1280x1024
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection Display
Depth   16
Modes   1280x1024
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection Display
Depth   24
Modes   1280x1024
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
Identifier  Simple Layout
Screen Screen 1
InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer
InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard
EndSection


b$ pkg_info|grep XFree86
XFree86-4.2.0_1,1   X11/XFree86 core distribution (complete, using
mini/meta-po XFree86-FontServer-4.2.0_1 XFree86-4 Font Server
XFree86-Server-4.2.1_7 XFree86-4 X server and related programs
XFree86-clients-4.2.1_2 XFree86-4 Client environments
XFree86-documents-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Document Files
XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 100 dpi fonts
XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 75 dpi fonts
XFree86-fontCyrillic-4.2.0_4 XFree86-4 Cyrillic Fonts
XFree86-fontDefaultBitmaps-4.2.0 XFree86-4 default bitmap fonts
XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0 XFree86-4 font encoding files
XFree86-fontScalable-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Scalable font files
XFree86-libraries-4.2.1_6 XFree86-4 include/(shared) library kit
imake-4.2.0_1   Imake and other utilities from XFree86


Any hints appreciated
Volker



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Re: manufacturing

- Original Message -
From: Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Kenzo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: manufacturing

 Kenzo wrote:
  My boss just presented me with an Idea.
  He wants for me to build couple computers to use on the manufacturing
floor
  using linux or Freebsd.

 I set up almost the exact same system for a client of mine.  They _do_ use
 Windows, however, and I'll explain why (although I can't say that I think
 it's the best possible solution).
 1) The database that tracks all their engineering data was written in
 Foxpro (although that's going to change) and Fox only runs on Windows.
 2) Their engineering drawings are in AutoCAD.  AutoDesk provides the Volo
 view software that give pan/zoom capabilities in a read-only package.
 Again, only runs in Windows.  And Volo view is free (dollar-wise).
 3) The hardware itself was trickled down when the admins got their new
 computers that were trickled down from engineering.  IOW, the
computers
 are about 5 years old, and already had Windows on them from when they
 were new.

  The computers will only need a web browser and some type of remote
control.

 How are you going to view CAD files in a web browser? (I'm curious, I may
be
 able to use the info)
 For remote control, ssh can be scripted to do commands.  If you're sure
about
 the security of your network, you could even use rsh.

I don't think that they will view CAD drawings.
Our webmaster will create an application that will make it easy for the
people posting the pictures to load them into the server.

  The reason is this.
  We're a manufacturing plant, with of course a manufacturing line.  On
the
  lines, they have drawings and schematics, that the workers need to look
at.
  well right now, what they do is print those out and post them at every
  workstations.
  what they would like is a computer at every workstation that can use a
  browser to look at a webpage where the drawings and schematics will be
  located.

 I can give you 2 pieces of information on this plan ...
 1) It's well worth the time and effort, makes everything easier and more
 likely to be up to date and correct.
 2) It probably won't go as smoothly as you like.  We found that the
 engineer's drawings weren't nearly as organized as they claimed, and
 the results were mistakes and shop workers sitting around the
engineering
 department while the engineers figured out where the drawings were.
The
 result was also that engineering has gotten a lot more organized ;)

  They don't feel like spending 500 bucks for a new windows machine, so we
  figure we could just use our old computers for that.

 Makes sense.  Most shop environments are hell on computers, and they'll
have
 quite a short lifespan.

  They will also need some type of remote control, they were thinking that
one
  operator would be in charge of connecting to all the computers and
opening
  the webpage.  I was thinking of using someting like VNC.

 Oops ... that may be a tall order for ssh or rsh.  You could also set up a
 single machine and make the rest X-terminals.

  Now, what would be the best way to accomplish this?
  He is more geared toward a linux box with redhat, but I would rather
setup a
  computer with Freebsd that would do all the trick.
  what x-window manager should I use?

 Were it me, I'd use something plain-jane like Enlightenment or twm or some
 other minimal WM, to keep them from playing around.

  what should I use for web browser?

 Mozilla, Opera, or Galeon.

  Will using VNC work?

 Probably, but test the performance first.

  I was thinking of only connecting a monitor to those
  workstations and have no keyboards and mouse.

 How do the users control things then?  You're going to have the shop
manager
 control everything completely?  Interesting twist.  We found it to be very
 efficient to let the operator control their own computer.  But then again,
 the software I wrote allows them to click on the job they're working on
and
 the drawing they need just pops up ... so the back-end logic is important
 to the success of that scheme.

Yes our plan is to only have one person per assembly line controlling the
computers so that they will all see the same thing.
I would like to think that if we give them all control over the computers,
they would only use it for work, but I find that people like to play around
and see what they can get away with.

 --
 Bill Moran
 Potential Technologies
 http://www.potentialtech.com

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gtk themes in kde 3.1 fbsd 4.7-release

2003-02-06 Thread Redmond Militante

hi all

anyone know how to get gtk themes going from from within kde 3.1?  i've tried googling 
this and asking in irc, to no avail.  i've installed gtk-theme-switch and 
gtk-themes-collection from ports, it doesn't seem to work from within kde, it works 
however, from within gnome.  the error i get when i try to apply a gtk theme is 

Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkentry.c: line 440 (gtk_entry_set_text): assertion `text != 
NULL' failed.

not sure if the error is related...

thanks again
redmond



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Re: Unable to boot 5.0-R CD error

2003-02-06 Thread Lowell Gilbert

Stephen Cravey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So is there a known problem that nobody is going to fix or are you just
 trying to get me installed in the interim? I've already done the floppy
 install. What I'm trying to do is see if anyone is aware of the problem
 before I submit a PR.

I have no idea if it's a known problem.  However, there was no way to
tell from what you posted.  It wasn't clear if the floppy install
*would* work, it wasn't clear if the CD drive worked with production-
quality releases of FreeBSD, and I don't use 5.0 myself yet, so I
wasn't comfortable going into detail.

You really need to take problems with 5.x to the -current mailing
list before posting a PR.  

 -Stephen
 
 On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 
  Stephen Cravey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   I'm getting an error when trying to boot any of the 5.0-RELEASE cd's
   something like:
  
   CD Loader 1.01
   Building txxx boot loader arguments
   Could not find primary volume descriptor
  
  
   and then it dies there. txxx is illegible in my notes, but somehow I don't
   think that is significant. When booting from floppy, I have to install
   additional drivers from the driver floppy to be able to install from CD.
  
   The device line from dmesg after installation is:
  
   acd0: CDROM GCD-R580B at ata1-master PIO3
  
   I have a vague recollection of a problem similar to this sometime in the
   4.x tree, but specifics totally escape me.
 
  If you can boot from floppy, do that.
 

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Re: manufacturing

2003-02-06 Thread Chuck Swiger

Kenzo wrote:
[ ... ]

Are the factory workers going to interact with their workstations at
all?  Or is the central operator going to do everything, and the workers
will just look at an image on the screen?


The workers will only need to look at the screen and not interact.


Very well.  That means we can concentrate more on the operator's 
environment.

How often do the images change?

Is the operator going to compose the images (documents?) on that central 
machine: say by scanning paper documents, or doing CAD, or whatever?

How should the operator publish documents to individual workstations? 
Via a web-based application?

[ ... ]
Approximately how many stations and how far apart are they?

 
At this point I don't know how many stations will be required and how far
appart they are.  they just want me to come up with something and have some
 demo to show the VPs and hopefully sell the idea.

OK.  Set up a demo network of 3 machines; one as a server, and two 
clients (to show that more than one end-user workstation works).

-Chuck

PS: What happens if one of your VP's asks the same question I did?  It's 
good to have an answer ready... :-)


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Re: XFree86 and Samsung 191T

2003-02-06 Thread Didier Wiroth

Are you using the nvidia drivers from www.nvidia.com?
If so, you could try experimenting one of these:

Option FlatPanelProperties string
there are other twin related options have a look at the link below.

Or perhaps have a look at the different NVIDIA options here:
http://download.nvidia.com/freebsd/1.0-3203/README.linux

Good luck
Didier



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Setting ppp in an FreeBSD 4.7 router

2003-02-06 Thread Jim Xochellis

Hi List 

I have a FreeBSD 4.7(i386) Release box and I am trying to make it run as
a router. My outer interface is ppp and seems that is not working
correctly. The interface definitions inside the rc.conf file are the following:

...
network_interfaces=ppp0 rl0 lo0
ifconfig_rl0=inet 111.111.111.111 mtu 1500 netmask 255.255.255.240
ifconfig_rl0_alias0=inet 192.168.3.1 mtu 1500 netmask 255.255.255.0
ifconfig_ppp0=inet 222.222.222.222 333.333.333.333 mtu 1500 netmask 255.255.255.252
hostname=XXX.YYY.ZZZ
defaultrouter=333.333.333.333
...

And I start pppd from the rc.local file like this:

/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/cuaa0 115200 222.222.222.222:333.333.333.333 noauth
persist netmask 255.255.255.252

When I boot the router and try to connect through the outer interface
(ping) I get no route to host, but when I try route add default
333.333.333.333 the ppp seems to run ok. On the other hand, adding
route add default 333.333.333.333 to my rc.local file does not solve
the problem.

The same rc.conf and rc.local files have been used in my old FreeBSD
4.2(i386) router with no problem at all. 

What am I doing wrong?
Is rc.local the correct place to start the pppd?
Any suggestions?

Thank you very much for your time

Jim Xochellis
Escape Information Services

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Re: CUPS problems

2003-02-06 Thread pippo

At 06:41 PM 2/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 03:36:43PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 03:26 PM 2/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
 I cvsup'd main  ports this weekend, and now my CUPS printing is 
broken :-(
 
 Looking in the logfiles it appears that it's not finding somehting called
 EPS Ghostscript.
 
 What is this, and how do I fix the problem?

 Well, I don't know how you had CUPS set up, or what you are running -
 usually ghostscript-gnu-7.05_3 (the current port) should do the trick. I
 would use portupgrade and cvsup/ That seems to be the easiest way. :))
 HTH,
 PJ


Thanks.

Unfortunately, that's excalty what I did. In breif cvsup ports and main,
make world, portsupgrade.

I'm looking around, and it appears that there are now 4 cups related ports.
cups, cibs-base, cups-lpr, and cups-prtoraster.

The description files in these ports leave me confused. Can you tell me
jhow they fit together?

I'm no great expert at this. I had to muddle through all the instructions 
and research google , etc., myself.
Anyway, you probably don't have too much of a problem if you reread all the 
manuals and installation instructions:
the ghostscript-gnu-7.05_3 is necessary for cups to work correctly on *nix 
systems. The gimp-print program provides most of the drivers. In my case 
that is the Epson Stylus color 900. There are other drivers available 
usually from the manufacturers of the printer.
My installation includes the following:
cups-1.1.18.0_4 - this is the metaport - installs the whole kit  kaboodle 
for cups (not gimp or ghost)
cups-base-1.1.18.0_4
cups-lpr-1.1.18.0_4 - this is for BSD compatibility binaries - the lp* commands
cups-pstoraster-7.05.5_2 Since *nix printing is mainly for PostScript, this 
is the interpreter to print to non-PostScript printers
ghostscript-gnu-7.05_3 - This is the PostScript GNU interpreter, necessary 
for Cups to function - This is a special version for *nix printing - check 
the EPS website (I think that's their initials
gimp-print-4.2.4 - These are the printer drivers

As for the rest, you have to set up the configuration which is really not 
hard if you follow all the instructions. It took me a while because I was 
really unfamiliar with all that. I'm sorry I can't help much more than that 
as I am really limited for time.

You could always post to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list, I found them 
very helpful. Send a
message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to subscribe.

HTH
PJ



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Re: informacion (SPANISH ANSWER HERE!)

2003-02-06 Thread eric

Fecha:  Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:13:02 -0600 
De:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Para:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Asunto:  Re: informacion (spanish answer here!) 

Virtualmente asi es puede sustituir a windows para precticamente todas las 
aplicaciones que un usuario regular de windows pueda querer, Procesador de 
palabras, hoja de calculo, base de datos, paquete de presentacion con 
OPENOFFICE 
el GIMP the ayuda para el retoque de fotos y dibujo, para dibujo vectorial tipo 
corel draw se cuenta con el Draw de OpenOffice, navegadores para internet 
existen mas que en Windows y reporoductores de peliculas DVD MP3 CD etc son 
cosa comun, la interface grafica de ventanas es en muchos casos mejor que la de 
windows, espero que esto despeje tus dudas en cuanto a FreeBSD (ojo tambien es 
posible emular windows dentro de WMWare dentro de FreeBSD) 

saludos!

Eric De La Cruz Lugo



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 Amigos, disculpe la ignorancia pero este sistema operativo puede sustituir 
 a 
 windows, por favor responder a Josue Vasquez[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Gracias  por su atencion 
 
 
 
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Mensaje citado por Joel McGraw [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 This gentleman wants to know if FreeBSD can replace Windows.
 Answer in Spanish below:
 
 Josue:
 
 Si y no.  FreeBSD es un sistema operativo basado en UNIX.  Por lo tanto 
 es muy potente y a la vez puede ser un tanto dificil para un novato. 
 Cabe mencionar que es software libre--desarrollado por un equipo de 
 voluntarios. Cual es su motivo--uso personal o en un ambiente 
 empresarial?  Cualquiera que sea su respuesta, le aseguro que FreeBSD le 
 puede brindar una solucion flexible y estable.
 
 -Joel
 
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 a
  windows, por favor responder a Josue Vasquez[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Gracias  por su atencion
  
  
  
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Re: XFree86 and Samsung 191T

2003-02-06 Thread Didier Wiroth

I just saw that your are not using the native NVIDIA driver! Use the nvidia 
driver and I think the problem will be solved.
Go to http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=freebsd_1.0-3203

Good luck
Didier

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Re: FreeBSD 5.0 installation, boot: fatal trap 12

2003-02-06 Thread Oleksandr Konovalenko



 set hint.acpi.0.disabled=1
 boot

I tried this, but got same error :-(


--- Lord Sith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have you tried booting without ACPI?
 
 I've had all sorts of problems with FreeBSD's ACPI.
 In fact, I have yet to 
 install it on a box that it doesn't panic, hang or
 break something.
 
 To do this, interrupt the kernel countdown and then
 do this:
 
 set hint.acpi.0.disabled=1
 boot
 
 From: Oleksandr Konovalenko
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: FreeBSD 5.0 installation, boot: fatal trap
 12
 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 04:01:33 -0800 (PST)
 Hi!
 
   During the installation (from CD, I've tried both
 mini-disc and disc1) of FreeBSD 5.0 on my laptop
 Packard Bell iGO2451 (AMD AthlonXP +1500, 1.3GHz)
 I've
 got following:
 
 ...
 cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0
 pccard0: 16 bit PCCard bus on vbb0
 
 
 Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
 
 fault virtual address  = 0xe7fe6
 fault code = supervisor read, page not
 present
 instruction pointer= 0x8:0xc00e9eb5
 stack pointer  = 0x10:0xc0a8299c
 frame pointer  = 0x10:0xc0a8299c
 code segment   = base 0x0, limit 0xf,
 type
 0x16
 = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1,
 gran
 1
 processor eflags   = interrupt enabled, resume,
 IOPL = 0
 current process= 0 (swapper)
 trap number= 12
 panic: page fault
 uptime 1s
 -
 
 Note#1, there is only one PCMCIA slot in laptop and
 it
 was empty during the boot.
 
 Note#2, there is no internal floppy drive.
 
 Note#3, No any problem to install NetBSD 1.5.2 or
 Linux RH 7.3 with 2.4.20 kernel.
 
 Note#4, I tried to disable some devices in BIOS but
 it
 did not help.
 
 Question: what might be wrong?
 
 regards,
   Alexander K.
 
 
  PS: Hardware specifications (from
 http://www.packardbell.se/support/node485.asp):
 
 BIOS v. 1.02
 
 PC Card   Texas Instruments PCI-4410 PC Card
 Controller
 32 bit PC-Card Bus
 
 Video S3 Savage 4S Video Controller
 High-Performance 2D/3D Video Accelerator,
 integrated
 in mainboard.
 
 Sound Realtek ALC201 Audio System
 18-bit, full duplex AC'97 2.2 compatible stereo
 audio
 CODEC.
 
 Core VIA Apollo KN133 chipset
 200/266 MHz Front Side Bus, Savage4 AGP 4X
 graphics
 core.
 
 Display LCD 14.1'' TFT XGA
 LCD 14.1 TFT XGA
 
 Keyboard and pointing device Synaptics Touchpad
 Touch-sensitive control pad.
 
 4-Way Scrolling Button
 Multi-directional scrolling function
 
 KME UJDA730 Combo Drive
 One drive which can read, write and re-write CD's
 but
 also reads DVD's. 8x DVD, 8x Write, 4x ReWrite, 20x
 Read.
 
 Memory Memory iGo 2000 series
  * 1 SO-DIMM Slot
  * Size: 256 MB
  * Type: SDRAM (PC133)
 
 
 Modem Billionton MDC56S-I Modem
 V92 MDC interface modem (Smartlink chipset ref.
 HAMR5600-INT)
 
 Network LSI L80227 Network Controller
 100/10 Base T Ethernet integrated in VIA VT8231
 
 
 
 
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Re: Can't remember how to read binary log files

2003-02-06 Thread Roman Neuhauser

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-02-06 08:48:20 +:
 PS.  Not to be confused with the mailstat command:
 
 % mailstat
 Most people don't type their own logfiles;  but, what do I care?

mailstat? what's that? I don't have it on any of my machines.

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Re: Creating a Mirror of my own site

2003-02-06 Thread Chris Howells

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Hi,

On Thursday 06 February 2003 04:34, Matt Winslow wrote:
 I'm trying to run dual servers (for redundancy...and just to learn), and
 need help on easy ways to maintain a second server, that will perfectly
 mirror the data on the first.  Is using rsync running every minute a good

rsync isn't a bad choice, you could possibly CVS, though CVS isn't great with 
binary files. Though presumably if you're mainly mirroring config files that 
won't be a problem.

Why every minute though? Every hour sounds better, with the possibility of you 
manually updating if needed.

 option?  Are there better ones?  Also, how do I set the second server to
 use the passwords/permissons from the main server.

NIS is the usual way to share accounts of UNIX systems.

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KDE: http://www.koffice.org, http://printing.kde.org, http://usability.kde.org

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Re: manufacturing

I appriciate all the help from everyone.
I just got off the phone with my supervisor and of course they changed their
mind.
Now they want all the computers to be able to look at different screens so
that they can work on different jobs on the line.
Makes sense, but that's not what they told the first time. But I guest
that's just the way it works in the corporate world.
I guess it's back to setting up a computers on every workstation with
keyboard and mouse so that they can pull up their own stuff to look at.

Again thanks.


- Original Message -
From: Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: manufacturing


 Kenzo wrote:
 [ ... ]
  Are the factory workers going to interact with their workstations at
  all?  Or is the central operator going to do everything, and the
workers
  will just look at an image on the screen?
 
  The workers will only need to look at the screen and not interact.

 Very well.  That means we can concentrate more on the operator's
 environment.

 How often do the images change?

 Is the operator going to compose the images (documents?) on that central
 machine: say by scanning paper documents, or doing CAD, or whatever?

 How should the operator publish documents to individual workstations?
 Via a web-based application?

 [ ... ]
  Approximately how many stations and how far apart are they?
 
  At this point I don't know how many stations will be required and how
far
  appart they are.  they just want me to come up with something and have
some
   demo to show the VPs and hopefully sell the idea.

 OK.  Set up a demo network of 3 machines; one as a server, and two
 clients (to show that more than one end-user workstation works).

 -Chuck

 PS: What happens if one of your VP's asks the same question I did?  It's
 good to have an answer ready... :-)


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Re: XFree86 and Samsung 191T

2003-02-06 Thread Volker Kindermann

 I just saw that your are not using the native NVIDIA driver! Use the
 nvidia driver and I think the problem will be solved.
 Go to http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=freebsd_1.0-3203

thank you. At the moment, I'm installing the linux_base port to get the
nvidia-driver installed. When everything is ready, I will report success
or failure.

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Re: Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5?

2003-02-06 Thread P. U. Kruppa

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Johannes Angeldorff wrote:

 Dear FreeBSD:ers,

 I am happy to use FreeBSD for web, mail and applications serving. But
 when I come to the question about how to upgrade to a newer FreeBSD
 version, I really could need your expertise!
I think this is what you would call a production machine.
You shouldn't experiment with the so called Technology Release
5.0 then, but upgrade to 4.7 .

The simpliest way to do this, is to download the iso-image, boot
it and follow the upgrade instructions in the menu.

Regards,

Uli.


 We have two FreeBSD 4.5 boxes. Both boxes have been installed with
 FreeBSD 4.5 from CD, and then tweaked with reconfigured kernels and a
 few applications installed, mainly qmail (replacing sendmail),
 mod-php, mysql, pico and a few more. Both boxes have around 25 users
 each. Both boxes have tweaked settings in /etc/rc.conf and some other
 /etc/-files.

 My question is, if anyone can give a hint on how to upgrade safely
 from FreeBSD 4.5 to FreeBSD 5.0...?

 If we download FreeBSD 5.0 and install it on our FreeBSD 4.5 boxes,
 what will we have to do? Is there risk that all settings, contents
 and installed applications will be erased?

 Very thankful for all help on this matter...!
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 Regards,
 Smartnet Sverige AB

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Re: manufacturing

Kenzo wrote:


I don't think that they will view CAD drawings.
Our webmaster will create an application that will make it easy for the
people posting the pictures to load them into the server.


I doubt that will work, but if it does, I'd love to hear about it.

The reason I don't think it will work is that engineering drawings on a
computer screen usually require a lot of zooming in/out to be useful, and
I don't know of any browsers that will give you that control.

Although, you may be able to install some sort of image viewer that would
do it.


Yes our plan is to only have one person per assembly line controlling the
computers so that they will all see the same thing.
I would like to think that if we give them all control over the computers,
they would only use it for work, but I find that people like to play around
and see what they can get away with.


True, but that's a _different_ problem.  If they're slacking, they'll slack
with other things than just the computer (although, experience shows that
productivity will drop off for the first week or so until the novelty
wears off).
Besides, if you do a plain-jane install, once they've figured out that there
isn't anything there to play with, they'll quit messing around.  (i.e. don't
install any games or anything)
My experience also shows that the power they have to find the information they
need without wandering around bugging bosses and foremen and engineers will
save more time than they lose to solitair.  We actually left all the games on
the shop computers at the place I set up.  It hasn't been enough of a problem
to worry about.  Actually, it probably saves time, because they spend their
breaks at their workstations playing solitair, instead of going to the break
room ;)
Wandering over to ask a foreman or an engineer is a _huge_ time waster in my
experience.  In fact, one of the design goals of the system I created was to
reduce the time that shop workers spend bothering engineers.  At least when
they're looking for it themselves, they're only wasting _their_ time, not the
engineer's time.  If you have a dedicated shop foreman, however, your situation
may be different.

This is starting to get off-topic.  I'll reply off-list in the future.

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Re: gtk themes in kde 3.1 fbsd 4.7-release

2003-02-06 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke

On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 10:52, Redmond Militante wrote:
 hi all
 
 anyone know how to get gtk themes going from from within kde 3.1?  i've tried 
googling this and asking in irc, to no avail.  i've installed gtk-theme-switch and 
gtk-themes-collection from ports, it doesn't seem to work from within kde, it works 
however, from within gnome.  the error i get when i try to apply a gtk theme is 
 
 Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkentry.c: line 440 (gtk_entry_set_text): assertion `text != 
NULL' failed.
 
 not sure if the error is related...

You have to edit your ~/.gtkrc file to include the correct theme you
want.  For example:

include /usr/X11R6/share/themes/Bluecurve/gtk/gtkrc

Joe

 
 thanks again
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Re: manufacturing

2003-02-06 Thread Mike Meyer

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kenzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 My boss just presented me with an Idea.

And I realize that it's changed, and each computer will now be
independent. But here's input anyway.

 He is more geared toward a linux box with redhat, but I would rather setup a
 computer with Freebsd that would do all the trick.
 what x-window manager should I use?  I know KDE uses alot of resources, but
 what about gnome?

I'd recommend plpwm (part of the plwm port). Have it configured with
no keyboard shortcuts, or possibly one to relauch the browser. Launch
the browser with .xinitrc. plpwm will automatically make it
full-screen. They can then mouse around on it to their hearts content,
but won't be able to do much else. Ratpoison can probably be used to
do the same thing. It should be lighter than plpwm, but it won't be as
easy to configure.

 what should I use for web browser?

Well, I was going to suggest something with a remote feature like
Mozilla, but that seems sort of piontless now. You might as well use
whatever your webmaster recommends, which will probably mean either
mozilla or netscape.

mike
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Re: XFree86 and Samsung 191T

2003-02-06 Thread Volker Kindermann

  I just saw that your are not using the native NVIDIA driver! Use the
  nvidia driver and I think the problem will be solved.
  Go to http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=freebsd_1.0-3203
 
 thank you. At the moment, I'm installing the linux_base port to get
 the nvidia-driver installed. When everything is ready, I will report
 success or failure.

ok, with the nvidia-driver I at least get a usefull picture.

But the fonts are not good to read and color gradients look awful. :-(

It is ok for my momentary use of this machine but if anyone has some
hints how to beautify the screen, I'll be happy to hear about.

Didier, I like to thank you for your helpful hint.

 -volker

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kernel loadable modules ?

2003-02-06 Thread P. U. Kruppa


Hi!

Where can I find documentation for the kernel loadable modules in
/modules ?

Regards,

Uli.

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Re: curious if anyone noticed the perl-5.8.0_04 seems a bit whacky ?

2003-02-06 Thread Sean O'Neill

At 07:01 PM 2/5/2003 -0600, Sean O'Neill wrote:

I just portupgraded from perl-5.8.0_01 to perl-5.8.0_04 - or more 
appropriately I tried.

Anyone noticed that the perl-5.8.0_04 port installs stuff in 
/usr/local/scripts, e.g. h2ph and others, but a pkginfo -L shows these 
same files are being installed in /usr/local/bin.

A problem with this is during the installation process it fails right 
towards the end because h2ph ends up in /usr/local/scripts/h2ph but the 
installation process is hard coded expecting it in /usr/local/bin/h2ph.  I 
manually copied h2ph to /usr/local/bin and redid a make install and the 
port installed.  But now the pkgdb is basically wrong for lots of the files.

Anyone else seen this ?

Ahhh I found it I think.

In the perl-5.8.0 Configure script - guess what it does? It actually looks 
for /usr/local/scripts as a possible location to install stuff.  There is a 
case statement where it is looking for location to put publicly executable 
scripts.  I put /usr/local/scripts as a location for my stuff a while 
back.  I guess I'll change the name to something else.

But this does mean that the FreeBSD for perl-5.8.0 port doesn't handle this 
well - I think.  Assuming Perl does install stuff in a location other the 
/usr/local/bin, the FreeBSD port of perl doesn't record it correctly in the 
pkgdb.  It always assumes /usr/local/bin.


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vnode-based encryption driver

2003-02-06 Thread DoubleF

Hello,

I'm running 4.4-RELEASE and I'm changing the vn(4) driver to do
transparent data encryption (for now it's a lame XOR algorithm,
but that's not forever; I once made it to run with CAST128 from
the crypto libs, and fell back just to sort out problem No 2
below). My questions are:

1) Am I reinventing the wheel? Don't tell me about cfs, though.
I know that something concerning cryptography is going to get
into 4.8-R kernel from OpenBSD, but what will it look like?

2) After I disklabel it according to the vnconfig man page and
newfs it (I can even successfully fsck it), it won't mount stating
it has an incorrect superblock. fsck -b ... doesn't help (though
states it's all ok). It's the same with XOR and CAST. When I use
the original version of vn, and do _everything_ the same way, it
works (mounts). 

Ordinary reads from and writes to the encrypted vn0 go ok, e.g.

 # cat /dev/urandom|tee foo/dev/vn0

makes a file foo identical to /dev/vn0 (though the file which is
backing vn0 is encrypted).

If you need the diff, just tell me. But the changes are so
straightforward (directing read and write routines in vn_cdevsw
to two routines doing the crypto and calling physread/write
appropriately) that I can't think of a way it could fail...
Am I not processing _all_ the reads/writes?

3) Does anyone (except for me) need it? (I'm going to change
vnconfig too, otherwise we'll store the key in the 'door';)

4) Is hackers@ a better place for discussion?

Any suggestions welcome.

DoubleF

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Re: Can't remember how to read binary log files

2003-02-06 Thread Dru



On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Roman Neuhauser wrote:

 # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-02-06 08:48:20 +:
  PS.  Not to be confused with the mailstat command:
 
  % mailstat
  Most people don't type their own logfiles;  but, what do I care?

 mailstat? what's that? I don't have it on any of my machines.


You won't have it unless you've installed /usr/ports/mail/procmail. It's a
script procmail uses to show which folders it has sorted your mail into.

Dru

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Re: vnode-based encryption driver

2003-02-06 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 06:00:26PM -, DoubleF wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm running 4.4-RELEASE and I'm changing the vn(4) driver to do
 transparent data encryption (for now it's a lame XOR algorithm,
 but that's not forever; I once made it to run with CAST128 from
 the crypto libs, and fell back just to sort out problem No 2
 below). My questions are:
 
 1) Am I reinventing the wheel? Don't tell me about cfs, though.
 I know that something concerning cryptography is going to get
 into 4.8-R kernel from OpenBSD, but what will it look like?

Yes..several people have already done exactly this (see e.g. the
vncrypt port), and 5.0 has a generalized disk device encryption system
(GBDE).

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Re: kernel loadable modules ?

2003-02-06 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 06:51:09PM +, P. U. Kruppa wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 Where can I find documentation for the kernel loadable modules in
 /modules ?

The same place the corresponding kernel systems are documented: in
manpages, and in the sample kernel configuration files.

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browsing windows drives with samba

2003-02-06 Thread Aslak Evang

I've used samba a lot for browsing my freebsd drives with my windows pc's,
but whats the best way to do it the other way around? I've read about
smbclient, but I've been told in Linux there are kernel modules you can
load to be able to browse windows network shares like you would normally
in a windows network neighbourhood. Is something like that availiable for
FBSD? Also I've heard that there's some sort of app for KDE that let's you
do it as well? Can anyone enlighten me?

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Re: dhcp

2003-02-06 Thread Jason Cave

When I do dhclient it just sets the ip to 0.0.0.0.  I know it sets it to 
this as it couldnt find the dhcp server.  Is there a way to have it look at 
a specific ip for the dhcp server?

It use to work with versions 4.5 and 4.6.  I am unable to locate either of 
these older versions on the network.  Anyone know where to get this the 
older versions?

All replies are appreciated.

Jason Cave
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Subject: Re: dhcp
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 09:28:45 -0500

Jason Cave wrote:

Is there another way for FreeBSD to check for a DHCP server, like =
another program.  dhclient just says
address family and protocal family are incompatable.  FreeBSD use to =
work and other Linux OS's can
see it without problems.  Its a connection where the DHCP server has to =
assign the ip or the ip isnt
allowed outside the network.


I've never seen dhclient have trouble with any DHCP server.

What version of FreeBSD?  You say it used to work, when did it stop 
working?
Did you upgrade?

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Re: How to change Telnet Prelogin message?

2003-02-06 Thread Nathan Kinkade

On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 09:27:21AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 08:45:12PM -0800, Nathan Kinkade wrote:
  On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 11:17:30PM -0500, Michael wrote:
   Hey friends,
   I got a BBS up as you may know from my previous post, and i need to allow
   telnet access. I want a pre login message telling users to please only use
   telnet for BBS and to use SSH2 for shell access. FreeBSDdiary.org is down,
   and FreeBSD cheat sheets example has a much older GETTYTAB. Im almost
   positive you guys can have me hacking this in moments. Pour some knowledge
   on me. Thanks.
  
  motd(5)
 
 Close, but motd is definitely post login.  /etc/issue can be used to
 display a message on the console before the login prompt.  All you
 need do is write some content into the file.  This file should work
 using the standard gettytab(5) file under FreeBSD with both getty(8)
 and telnetd(8), although I haven't tried using it with telnet recently
 myself.  You want to look for use of the 'if' or the 'im' properties
 in gettytab(5).
 
 The equivalent for sshd(8) is to set the Banner property in
 /etc/ssh/sshd_config, although this only works if you use the SSH2
 protocol.
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew

I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention to the original posters
question.  I somehow missed the pre.  In any case, all this has
prompted me to play around with pre-login messages.  Using gettytab I
can alter the pre-login message for telnet sessions by changing the 'im'
capability in gettytab, but for the life of me I can't seem to get
telnetd to recognize the 'if' capability.  The console responds to both,
but telnetd seems to ignore 'if'.  The perms on /etc/issue are 644.  I
don't run inetd, but just for experiment I uncommented telnetd and
launched and inetd for testing.  Can anyone explain why telnetd might
ignore the 'if' capability specified in the 'default' heading of
gettytab?  The telnetd man page clearly states that if 'if' is present
it will override 'im'.

Thanks,
Nathan

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Re: manufacturing

2003-02-06 Thread Jud

On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 11:55:03 -0500, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Kenzo wrote:


I don't think that they will view CAD drawings.
Our webmaster will create an application that will make it easy for the
people posting the pictures to load them into the server.


I doubt that will work, but if it does, I'd love to hear about it.

The reason I don't think it will work is that engineering drawings on a
computer screen usually require a lot of zooming in/out to be useful, and
I don't know of any browsers that will give you that control.

[snip]

Opera does.  It is also quite small and fast.  Not free unless you agree to 
an ad banner, though.

People generally have reported better results with the Linux version 
running on FreeBSD with Linux emulation than the FreeBSD native version, 
but YMMV - many of the complaints about the native version concern the fact 
that there aren't FreeBSD versions of popular plugins, which is something 
you may not be at all concerned with.

Jud

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2003-02-06 Thread Training Line

Title: Êëþ÷åâûå íàâûêè êîììóíèêàöèè. Êóðñ äëÿ ðóêîâîäèòåëÿ. Ïðåçåíòàöèè, ñîâåùàíèÿ, ïåðåãîâîðû.

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Ýìîöèîíàëüíûå "ñïåöýôôåêòû": êàê ñäåëàòü ïðåçåíòàöèþ çàïîìèíàþùåéñÿ?

2. Àíàëèç àóäèòîðèè è âûðàáîòêà ëîãè÷åñêîé àðãóìåíòàöèè

Êàðòèíà ìèðà àóäèòîðèè: ïðàâèëà è öåííîñòè
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3. Òåõíèêà ïóáëè÷íûõ âûñòóïëåíèé

Àêòåðñêîå èñêóññòâî è èìèäæ: êàê ñäåëàòü çàðàíåå ïîäãîòîâëåííîå âûñòóïëåíèå æèâûì?
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Ðàáîòà ñ êîììóíèêàöèåé: êàê íàëàæèâàòü è ïîääåðæèâàòü êîíòàêò ñ àóäèòîðèåé? Êàê ñïðàâëÿòüñÿ ñ "òðóäíûìè" ó÷àñòíèêàìè?
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Ýôôåêòèâíîå çàâåðøåíèå ïðåçåíòàöèè
Äåëîâà èãðà "Ïðåçåíòàöèÿ (è\èëè Ñîâåùàíèå)"

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Èíòåðàêòèâíàÿ ëåêöèÿ: "Åñòåñòâåííûå" òåõíèêè êîììóíèêàöèè â ÷åëîâå÷åñêèõ ñîîáùåñòâàõ.
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5. Äåëîâàÿ èãðà "Ïåðåãîâîðû": îöåíêà ïåðåãîâîðîâ, âûáîð ýôôåêòèâíîé òàêòèêè è ñòðàòåãèè îáùåíèÿ, ïðîâåäåíèå è àíàëèç ïåðåãîâîðîâ.

Â êà÷åñòâå ïðàêòè÷åñêîãî ìàòåðèàëà èñïîëüçóþòñÿ ñëåäóþùèå óïðàæíåíèÿ:
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Re: How to change Telnet Prelogin message?

On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 11:23:21AM -0800, Nathan Kinkade wrote:
 I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention to the original posters
 question.  I somehow missed the pre.  In any case, all this has
 prompted me to play around with pre-login messages.  Using gettytab I
 can alter the pre-login message for telnet sessions by changing the 'im'
 capability in gettytab, but for the life of me I can't seem to get
 telnetd to recognize the 'if' capability.  The console responds to both,
 but telnetd seems to ignore 'if'.  The perms on /etc/issue are 644.  I
 don't run inetd, but just for experiment I uncommented telnetd and
 launched and inetd for testing.  Can anyone explain why telnetd might
 ignore the 'if' capability specified in the 'default' heading of
 gettytab?  The telnetd man page clearly states that if 'if' is present
 it will override 'im'.

Interesting.  The source code seems pretty clear in that it only looks
at the 'im' property:

 .../src/libexec/telnetd/telnetd.c at about line 770

/*
 * Show banner that getty never gave.
 *
 * We put the banner in the pty input buffer.  This way, it
 * gets carriage return null processing, etc., just like all
 * other pty -- client data.
 */

if (getent(defent, default) == 1) {
char *cp=defstrs;

HE = Getstr(he, cp);
HN = Getstr(hn, cp);
IM = Getstr(im, cp);
if (HN  *HN)
(void) strlcpy(host_name, HN, sizeof(host_name));
if (IM == 0)
IM = strdup();
} else {
IM = strdup(DEFAULT_IM);
HE = 0;
}

Looks like it's time to send-pr.

Cheers,

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Re: dhcp

2003-02-06 Thread Jason Cave

When I do dhclient rl0, and it doesnt give an on screen error it just sets 
the ip to 0.0.0.0.  Other times it spouts alot of text with this line at the 
top.  Feb  5 22:17:52 c68 dhclient: Can't bind to dhcp address: Address 
already in use.  My isp says its not a problem with their system.  Nor is 
there any settings to stop the machine from using the dhcp server.

Thank you for all the assistance so far.

Jason Cave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


From: Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jason Cave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: dhcp
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:31:34 -0500

Jason Cave wrote:

When I do dhclient it just sets the ip to 0.0.0.0.  I know it sets it to 
this as it couldnt find the dhcp server.

How do you know that the cause of the failure is that it can't find the
server?  Do you get an error message?  What does it say?


Is there a way to have it look at a specific ip for the dhcp server?


Not that I know of.

Are you using the same NIC as when it worked?  Many ISPs require you to
register a MAC address before they will assign an IP.

Is there any information in /var/log/messages about the failure?


It use to work with versions 4.5 and 4.6.  I am unable to locate either of 
these older versions on the network.  Anyone know where to get this the 
older versions?

Behaviour has not changed in 4.7, to my knowledge.  My machine here has 
been
4.6 and is now 4.7 and still works fine as a dhclient.

You should still be able to download 4.6.2 isos from the ftp sites.  And if
you want to go back further, you can use cvsup to downgrade a 4.7 system.
(just use a RELENG_4_5 tag)

All replies are appreciated.


Hope this is helpful.


Jason Cave
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To: Jason Cave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: dhcp
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 09:28:45 -0500

Jason Cave wrote:


Is there another way for FreeBSD to check for a DHCP server, like =
another program.  dhclient just says
address family and protocal family are incompatable.  FreeBSD use to =
work and other Linux OS's can
see it without problems.  Its a connection where the DHCP server has to 
=
assign the ip or the ip isnt
allowed outside the network.


I've never seen dhclient have trouble with any DHCP server.

What version of FreeBSD?  You say it used to work, when did it stop 
working?
Did you upgrade?

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Re: dhcp

Jason Cave wrote:

When I do dhclient rl0, and it doesnt give an on screen error it just 
sets the ip to 0.0.0.0.  Other times it spouts alot of text with this 
line at the top.  Feb  5 22:17:52 c68 dhclient: Can't bind to dhcp 
address: Address already in use.

This means there is already a dhclient running.  (you can't run it twice
on the same network card).  That particular error is probably a result
of your experimenting, and is probably not the cause of your problem.

Please send your configuration information.  Attach /etc/rc.conf to your
next email, as well as the output of 'ifconfig -a' (while the machine is
plugged in and having trouble)

Please look in /var/log/messages for any dhclient errors.  Actually, do
this:
grep 'dhclient' /var/log/messages  /some/file
and attach /some/file to the next email (along with the other requested
output).


My isp says its not a problem with 
their system.

I'll bet they're correct.


Nor is there any settings to stop the machine from using 
the dhcp server.

What do you mean by this?  That the ISP won't change or that FreeBSD won't?
The latter is definately untrue, FreeBSD can be configured to use or not
use DHCP as you desire.


Thank you for all the assistance so far.


Hope we get this figured out for you.



Jason Cave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



From: Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jason Cave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: dhcp
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:31:34 -0500

Jason Cave wrote:


When I do dhclient it just sets the ip to 0.0.0.0.  I know it sets it 
to this as it couldnt find the dhcp server.


How do you know that the cause of the failure is that it can't find the
server?  Do you get an error message?  What does it say?


Is there a way to have it look at a specific ip for the dhcp server?



Not that I know of.

Are you using the same NIC as when it worked?  Many ISPs require you to
register a MAC address before they will assign an IP.

Is there any information in /var/log/messages about the failure?


It use to work with versions 4.5 and 4.6.  I am unable to locate 
either of these older versions on the network.  Anyone know where to 
get this the older versions?


Behaviour has not changed in 4.7, to my knowledge.  My machine here 
has been
4.6 and is now 4.7 and still works fine as a dhclient.

You should still be able to download 4.6.2 isos from the ftp sites.  
And if
you want to go back further, you can use cvsup to downgrade a 4.7 
system.
(just use a RELENG_4_5 tag)

All replies are appreciated.



Hope this is helpful.


Jason Cave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


From: Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jason Cave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: dhcp
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 09:28:45 -0500

Jason Cave wrote:


Is there another way for FreeBSD to check for a DHCP server, like =
another program.  dhclient just says
address family and protocal family are incompatable.  FreeBSD use to =
work and other Linux OS's can
see it without problems.  Its a connection where the DHCP server 
has to =
assign the ip or the ip isnt
allowed outside the network.



I've never seen dhclient have trouble with any DHCP server.

What version of FreeBSD?  You say it used to work, when did it 
stop working?
Did you upgrade?

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XFree86 from CVS?

2003-02-06 Thread Jud

The good news:  I've purchased an ATI Radeon 9500 and used an available 
driver patch to give it the performance of the 9700 model, which costs 
about twice as much.  :)

The bad news:  XFree86 4.2.0_1,1 (most recent version available with 
FreeBSD, I believe) doesn't work with the newest Radeons.

The XFree86 CVS changelog shows 2D support (all I need ATM - willing to 
wait for 3D) having been added just a few days ago.

My question:  Is it reasonable to try to install XFree86 from CVS on 
FreeBSD 4-STABLE, particularly for someone who lacks good wide-ranging Unix 
knowledge?  (I can follow simple directions - with my prior card I was 
using the nVidia drivers without difficulty.)  Has anyone out there done 
this recently?  Tips, gotchas?

Thanks,

Jud

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Re: dhcp

2003-02-06 Thread Jason Cave

Thanks for all the assistance.  I contacted my isp again and they failed to 
mention the first time around that only 3 ips per modem.  In about an hour 
my FreeBSD machine will be able to access the internet.

Thanks for all the assistance.

Jason Cave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jason Cave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: dhcp
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:09:05 -0500

Jason Cave wrote:

When I do dhclient rl0, and it doesnt give an on screen error it just sets 
the ip to 0.0.0.0.  Other times it spouts alot of text with this line at 
the top.  Feb  5 22:17:52 c68 dhclient: Can't bind to dhcp address: 
Address already in use.

This means there is already a dhclient running.  (you can't run it twice
on the same network card).  That particular error is probably a result
of your experimenting, and is probably not the cause of your problem.

Please send your configuration information.  Attach /etc/rc.conf to your
next email, as well as the output of 'ifconfig -a' (while the machine is
plugged in and having trouble)

Please look in /var/log/messages for any dhclient errors.  Actually, do
this:
grep 'dhclient' /var/log/messages  /some/file
and attach /some/file to the next email (along with the other requested
output).


My isp says its not a problem with their system.


I'll bet they're correct.


Nor is there any settings to stop the machine from using the dhcp server.


What do you mean by this?  That the ISP won't change or that FreeBSD won't?
The latter is definately untrue, FreeBSD can be configured to use or not
use DHCP as you desire.


Thank you for all the assistance so far.


Hope we get this figured out for you.



Jason Cave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



From: Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jason Cave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: dhcp
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:31:34 -0500

Jason Cave wrote:


When I do dhclient it just sets the ip to 0.0.0.0.  I know it sets it to 
this as it couldnt find the dhcp server.


How do you know that the cause of the failure is that it can't find the
server?  Do you get an error message?  What does it say?


Is there a way to have it look at a specific ip for the dhcp server?



Not that I know of.

Are you using the same NIC as when it worked?  Many ISPs require you to
register a MAC address before they will assign an IP.

Is there any information in /var/log/messages about the failure?


It use to work with versions 4.5 and 4.6.  I am unable to locate either 
of these older versions on the network.  Anyone know where to get this 
the older versions?


Behaviour has not changed in 4.7, to my knowledge.  My machine here has 
been
4.6 and is now 4.7 and still works fine as a dhclient.

You should still be able to download 4.6.2 isos from the ftp sites.  And 
if
you want to go back further, you can use cvsup to downgrade a 4.7 
system.
(just use a RELENG_4_5 tag)

All replies are appreciated.



Hope this is helpful.


Jason Cave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


From: Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jason Cave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: dhcp
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 09:28:45 -0500

Jason Cave wrote:


Is there another way for FreeBSD to check for a DHCP server, like =
another program.  dhclient just says
address family and protocal family are incompatable.  FreeBSD use to =
work and other Linux OS's can
see it without problems.  Its a connection where the DHCP server has 
to =
assign the ip or the ip isnt
allowed outside the network.



I've never seen dhclient have trouble with any DHCP server.

What version of FreeBSD?  You say it used to work, when did it stop 
working?
Did you upgrade?

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arplookup messages? now what have I done?

2003-02-06 Thread Phillip Smith (mailing list)


I recently added some aliases to my ipconfig and now I'm getting these
system messages? Should I be concerned? (FreeBSD 4.6)


Feb  3 02:24:23 freedom /kernel: arplookup XXX.XXX.XX.XX failed: host is
not on local
network
Feb  3 00:17:35 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed:
1
Feb  3 00:17:35 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed:
1
Feb  3 00:17:35 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(IPv6:::1) failed: 1
Feb  3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed:
1
Feb  3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed:
1
Feb  3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed:
1
Feb  3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed:
1
Feb  3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed:
1
Feb  3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed:
1
Feb  3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed:
1
Feb  3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(XXX.XXX.XX.XX) failed:
1
Feb  3 00:38:26 freedom sm-mta[94]: gethostbyaddr(IPv6:::1) failed: 1

And... these ones too

 arplookup XXX.XXX.XX.XX failed: host is not on local network
 arplookup XXX.XXX.XX.XX failed: host is not on local network
 Feb  5 03:03:57 freedom /kernel: arplookup XXX.XXX.XX.XX failed: host
is not on local
network
 arplookup XXX.XXX.XX.XX failed: host is not on local network
 arplookup XXX.XXX.XX.XX failed: host is not on local network
 Feb  5 03:04:57 freedom last message repeated 3 times
 arplookup XXX.XXX.XX.XX failed: host is not on local network
 Feb  5 06:16:56 freedom /kernel: arplookup XXX.XXX.XX.XXfailed: host
is not on local


And here's the rc.conf file

ifconfig_de0=inet XXX.168.0.219  netmask 255.255.255.0
ifconfig_tl0=inet XXX.82.15.219  netmask 255.255.255.240
ifconfig_tl0_alias0=inet XXX.82.15.220 netmask 0x
ifconfig_tl0_alias1=inet XXX.82.15.221 netmask 0x
ifconfig_tl0_alias2=inet XXX.82.15.222 netmask 0x
ifconfig_tl0_alias3=inet XXX.167.176.107 netmask 0x
ifconfig_tl0_alias4=inet XXX.167.176.108 netmask 0x
ifconfig_tl0_alias5=inet XXX.167.176.109 netmask 0x
ifconfig_tl0_alias6=inet XXX.167.176.110 netmask 0x

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Re: Help: Monitor/Keyboard Switch with freebsd

2003-02-06 Thread Daniel Graupner

hi all there,

just want to mention, that my problem is solved. Maybe anyone is interested.
Freebsd wants to detect the keyboard automatically, not a good thing 
with an kvm switch.

Just search the line :
device atkbd0 at atkbdc? flags 0x100
this is your keyboard. The falg does the detection, simply delete flags 
0x100 ... compile
your kernel...everything will work fine.

daniel

Daniel Graupner schrieb:

Hey there,

i'm using a kvm-switch which simply multiplexes keyboard and monitor 
between 2 workstations.
After installing freebsd, the following problem occured:

- keyboard-interaction during boot (kernel) is possible
- after boot-stage my keyboard is dead

any ideas??

thanx, daniel.


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Re: arplookup messages? now what have I done?

2003-02-06 Thread Michael K. Smith


mailing list said:

 I recently added some aliases to my ipconfig and now I'm getting these
 system messages? Should I be concerned? (FreeBSD 4.6)


snip
 ifconfig_de0=inet XXX.168.0.219  netmask 255.255.255.0
 ifconfig_tl0=inet XXX.82.15.219  netmask 255.255.255.240
snip
 ifconfig_tl0_alias3=inet XXX.167.176.107 netmask 0x
 ifconfig_tl0_alias4=inet XXX.167.176.108 netmask 0x
 ifconfig_tl0_alias5=inet XXX.167.176.109 netmask 0x
 ifconfig_tl0_alias6=inet XXX.167.176.110 netmask 0x

Hey:

Your interface is in xxx.168.0.0/24 and your aliases are in
xxx.167.0.0/24.  Those are two different subnets.  You need to configure
your aliases in xxx.168.0.0 or reconfigure the interface into xxx.167.0.0.
 Or, you could extend your subnet mask to a /22 (255.255.252.0) (you can't
use a /23 because it won't inlude 167 and 168).

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RE: arplookup messages? now what have I done?

2003-02-06 Thread Phillip Smith (mailing list)


Hi Michael,

My network topology skills are limited... does this mean the following:

- my default gateway is on a 255.255.255.240 subnet
- so is my devices real address
- there is another device listed there (de0), no problems (internal)

So, if I change the aliased devices to 0xff0 (255.255.255.240), they
will be a-ok and not produce those message? I believe I had it set like
that and the devices wouldn't initiate?

Many thanks in advance,

phillip.

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael K. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: February 6, 2003 3:28 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: arplookup messages? now what have I done?
 
 
 
 mailing list said:
 
  I recently added some aliases to my ipconfig and now I'm 
 getting these 
  system messages? Should I be concerned? (FreeBSD 4.6)
 
 
 snip
  ifconfig_de0=inet XXX.168.0.219  netmask 255.255.255.0 
  ifconfig_tl0=inet XXX.82.15.219  netmask 255.255.255.240
 snip
  ifconfig_tl0_alias3=inet XXX.167.176.107 netmask 0x 
  ifconfig_tl0_alias4=inet XXX.167.176.108 netmask 0x 
  ifconfig_tl0_alias5=inet XXX.167.176.109 netmask 0x 
  ifconfig_tl0_alias6=inet XXX.167.176.110 netmask 0x
 
 Hey:
 
 Your interface is in xxx.168.0.0/24 and your aliases are in 
 xxx.167.0.0/24.  Those are two different subnets.  You need 
 to configure your aliases in xxx.168.0.0 or reconfigure the 
 interface into xxx.167.0.0.  Or, you could extend your subnet 
 mask to a /22 (255.255.252.0) (you can't use a /23 because it 
 won't inlude 167 and 168).
 
 Mike
 
 
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RE: dhcp

2003-02-06 Thread Asenchi

also maybe check /etc/rc.local to make sure that it isn't starting there
either.  If dhclient is running on startup then in your local daemons, then
it will also cause this problem.

Attach as bill suggested those files and this will help tons.

Curt

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To: Jason Cave
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Subject: Re: dhcp


Jason Cave wrote:
 When I do dhclient rl0, and it doesnt give an on screen error it just
 sets the ip to 0.0.0.0.  Other times it spouts alot of text with this
 line at the top.  Feb  5 22:17:52 c68 dhclient: Can't bind to dhcp
 address: Address already in use.

This means there is already a dhclient running.  (you can't run it twice
on the same network card).  That particular error is probably a result
of your experimenting, and is probably not the cause of your problem.

Please send your configuration information.  Attach /etc/rc.conf to your
next email, as well as the output of 'ifconfig -a' (while the machine is
plugged in and having trouble)

Please look in /var/log/messages for any dhclient errors.  Actually, do
this:
grep 'dhclient' /var/log/messages  /some/file
and attach /some/file to the next email (along with the other requested
output).

 My isp says its not a problem with
 their system.

I'll bet they're correct.

 Nor is there any settings to stop the machine from using
 the dhcp server.

What do you mean by this?  That the ISP won't change or that FreeBSD won't?
The latter is definately untrue, FreeBSD can be configured to use or not
use DHCP as you desire.

 Thank you for all the assistance so far.

Hope we get this figured out for you.


 Jason Cave
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 To: Jason Cave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: dhcp
 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:31:34 -0500

 Jason Cave wrote:

 When I do dhclient it just sets the ip to 0.0.0.0.  I know it sets it
 to this as it couldnt find the dhcp server.


 How do you know that the cause of the failure is that it can't find the
 server?  Do you get an error message?  What does it say?

 Is there a way to have it look at a specific ip for the dhcp server?


 Not that I know of.

 Are you using the same NIC as when it worked?  Many ISPs require you to
 register a MAC address before they will assign an IP.

 Is there any information in /var/log/messages about the failure?

 It use to work with versions 4.5 and 4.6.  I am unable to locate
 either of these older versions on the network.  Anyone know where to
 get this the older versions?


 Behaviour has not changed in 4.7, to my knowledge.  My machine here
 has been
 4.6 and is now 4.7 and still works fine as a dhclient.

 You should still be able to download 4.6.2 isos from the ftp sites.
 And if
 you want to go back further, you can use cvsup to downgrade a 4.7
 system.
 (just use a RELENG_4_5 tag)

 All replies are appreciated.


 Hope this is helpful.

 Jason Cave
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 Subject: Re: dhcp
 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 09:28:45 -0500

 Jason Cave wrote:

 Is there another way for FreeBSD to check for a DHCP server, like =
 another program.  dhclient just says
 address family and protocal family are incompatable.  FreeBSD use to =
 work and other Linux OS's can
 see it without problems.  Its a connection where the DHCP server
 has to =
 assign the ip or the ip isnt
 allowed outside the network.



 I've never seen dhclient have trouble with any DHCP server.

 What version of FreeBSD?  You say it used to work, when did it
 stop working?
 Did you upgrade?

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Re: kernel loadable modules ?

2003-02-06 Thread Roman Neuhauser

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 Where can I find documentation for the kernel loadable modules in
 /modules ?

mostly in manual section 4

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RE: arplookup messages? now what have I done?

2003-02-06 Thread Michael K. Smith


mailing list\ said:

 Hi Michael,

 My network topology skills are limited... does this mean the following:

 - my default gateway is on a 255.255.255.240 subnet
 - so is my devices real address
 - there is another device listed there (de0), no problems (internal)

 So, if I change the aliased devices to 0xff0 (255.255.255.240), they
 will be a-ok and not produce those message? I believe I had it set like
 that and the devices wouldn't initiate?

 Many thanks in advance,

Hey Phillip:

You have three things that need to line up in order for this to work:

1) The IP Address
2) The subnet mask
3) The alias and its associated interface

In your example:

  ifconfig_de0=inet XXX.168.0.219  netmask 255.255.255.0
  ifconfig_tl0=inet XXX.82.15.219  netmask 255.255.255.240
 snip
  ifconfig_tl0_alias3=inet XXX.167.176.107 netmask 0x
 ifconfig_tl0_alias4=inet XXX.167.176.108 netmask 0x
 ifconfig_tl0_alias5=inet XXX.167.176.109 netmask 0x
 ifconfig_tl0_alias6=inet XXX.167.176.110 netmask 0x

The subnet mask for xxx.82.15.219 would mean you could use addresses that
are masked when the subnet mask is applied.  I would recommend reading
up on masking in your copious free time.  Suffice it to say that, in this
case, the following is true:

xxx.82.15.208 - xxx.82.15.223 is the address range, with .208 and .223
reserved.

If you want to have your aliases attached to the tl0 interface, you need
to use addresses in that range.  So, something like:

ifconfig_tl0_alias3=inet XXX.82.15.210 netmask 0x

Also, I would recommend using the .209 or .222 address (first and last
useable in the subnet) as your tl0 (default gateway) interface.  It's
standard operating procedure and will help you in the troubleshooting
process to have things fairly standardized.  If you set your interface to
.209, then you could set interface aliases from .210 to .222 inclusive.

Mike
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RE: arplookup messages? now what have I done?

2003-02-06 Thread Phillip Smith (mailing list)


Hmmm, I'm confused

 If you want to have your aliases attached to the tl0 
 interface, you need to use addresses in that range.  So, 
 something like:
 
 ifconfig_tl0_alias3=inet XXX.82.15.210 netmask 0x

That's what I have, and I'm getting those funny arplookup error
messages.

 The subnet mask for xxx.82.15.219 would mean you could use 
 addresses that are masked when the subnet mask is applied.  
 I would recommend reading up on masking in your copious free 
 time. 

I'll definitely have a look around (think I have the CCNA books at
home).

I have two DSL lines, one provides the 82.15.209+ and the other the
167.176.x, but both have the same 255.255.255.240 subnet. I'm thinking
that this may have something to do with the messages?

phillip.


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Does spamd use Razor?

2003-02-06 Thread Mark

Hello,

I recently installed SpamAssassin 2.44, with Razor 2.22. And although spamd
says that Razor2 is available, its -D debug parameter does not allow for a
high enough debug-level to actually see whether spamd calls Razor; the log
says,

spamd[4013]: debug: running full-text regexp tests; score so far=9.1
spamd[4013]: debug: Razor2 is available
spamd[4013]: debug: entering helper-app run mode
spamd[4013]: debug: leaving helper-app run mode

When I run via spamassassin, everything seems ok, and Razor fills its logs
(in /var/log/razor-agent.log); but run via spamd, only the above is logged
(in the spamd log; nothing in /var/log/razor-agent.log).

I built this on FreeBSD 4.7R, against /usr/local. Has anyone else done this
with success on their FreeBSD system? And what am I missing?

Thanks,

- Mark


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Re: browsing windows drives with samba

Aslak Evang wrote:

I've used samba a lot for browsing my freebsd drives with my windows pc's,
but whats the best way to do it the other way around? I've read about
smbclient, but I've been told in Linux there are kernel modules you can
load to be able to browse windows network shares like you would normally
in a windows network neighbourhood.


Don't know the Linux app you're referring to.  But there's also sharity-lite
and smbfs (see man page for mount_smbfs).


Also I've heard that there's some sort of app for KDE that let's you
do it as well? Can anyone enlighten me?


Konquerer (the KDE browser) allows you to surf SMB shares just like
network neighborhood on Win.  I believe it requires that Samba be
installed on the local machine.  I've noted its existence, but never
used it.

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4.7-RELEASE Handbook

2003-02-06 Thread William Wallace


Anybody know if it's still possible to download the latest 4.7-RELEASE
version of the handbook?  I noticed that the most recent one pertains to
5.0-RELEASE.

Thanks,
- William.



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Perl Upgrade

2003-02-06 Thread Grant Peel

Does anyone know a way to upgrade perl (from 5.00503) to 5.8.0 without
loosing all currently install modules?

-Grant

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Re: How to change Telnet Prelogin message?

2003-02-06 Thread Nathan Kinkade

On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 07:47:16PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 11:23:21AM -0800, Nathan Kinkade wrote:
  I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention to the original posters
  question.  I somehow missed the pre.  In any case, all this has
  prompted me to play around with pre-login messages.  Using gettytab I
  can alter the pre-login message for telnet sessions by changing the 'im'
  capability in gettytab, but for the life of me I can't seem to get
  telnetd to recognize the 'if' capability.  The console responds to both,
  but telnetd seems to ignore 'if'.  The perms on /etc/issue are 644.  I
  don't run inetd, but just for experiment I uncommented telnetd and
  launched and inetd for testing.  Can anyone explain why telnetd might
  ignore the 'if' capability specified in the 'default' heading of
  gettytab?  The telnetd man page clearly states that if 'if' is present
  it will override 'im'.
 
 Interesting.  The source code seems pretty clear in that it only looks
 at the 'im' property:
 
  .../src/libexec/telnetd/telnetd.c at about line 770
 
 /*
  * Show banner that getty never gave.
  *
  * We put the banner in the pty input buffer.  This way, it
  * gets carriage return null processing, etc., just like all
  * other pty -- client data.
  */
 
 if (getent(defent, default) == 1) {
 char *cp=defstrs;
 
 HE = Getstr(he, cp);
 HN = Getstr(hn, cp);
 IM = Getstr(im, cp);
 if (HN  *HN)
 (void) strlcpy(host_name, HN, sizeof(host_name));
 if (IM == 0)
 IM = strdup();
 } else {
 IM = strdup(DEFAULT_IM);
 HE = 0;
 }
 
 Looks like it's time to send-pr.
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew

Thanks Matthew.  I did a bit of searching and couldn't find this problem
mentioned anywhere else.  I have submitted a PR with id docs/48018.

Nathan

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Re: XFree86 from CVS?

2003-02-06 Thread parv

in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Jud thusly...

 My question:  Is it reasonable to try to install XFree86 from CVS
 on FreeBSD 4-STABLE,

I did too once for some early 4.x version...

 particularly for someone who lacks good wide-ranging Unix
 knowledge?

...can't say much about that one or the other.


 (I can follow simple directions - with my prior card I was using
 the nVidia drivers without difficulty.)  Has anyone out there done
 this recently?  Tips, gotchas?

I followed the directions from the XFree86 web site  those listed
in the INSTALL and README files (or whatever they were called).  It
took some time  space to compile, but there were no problems in the
compile process or installing the files at a preferred location.

The only problem that i had was to set up the environment to pull
the cvs source.


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Re: Does spamd use Razor?

2003-02-06 Thread Mark

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From: Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: Does spamd use Razor?

 In the last episode (Feb 06), Mark said:

  I recently installed SpamAssassin 2.44, with Razor 2.22. And although
  spamd says that Razor2 is available, its -D debug parameter does not
  allow for a high enough debug-level to actually see whether spamd
  calls Razor; the log says,

  spamd[4013]: debug: running full-text regexp tests; score so far=9.1
  spamd[4013]: debug: Razor2 is available
  spamd[4013]: debug: entering helper-app run mode
  spamd[4013]: debug: leaving helper-app run mode

  When I run via spamassassin, everything seems ok, and Razor fills its
  logs (in /var/log/razor-agent.log); but run via spamd, only the above
  is logged (in the spamd log; nothing in /var/log/razor-agent.log).

  I built this on FreeBSD 4.7R, against /usr/local. Has anyone else
  done this with success on their FreeBSD system? And what am I
  missing?

 Try piping the test-message through spamc:

 spamc  /usr/local/share/doc/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin/sample-spam.txt |
 grep -i razor

Thanks for the quick reply. :)

 Spamd might not be running as root so it may not have write access to
 /var/log/razor-agent.log.

Indeed, I have spamd running as the special, unprivileged user spamd. But
you were right: spamd did not have access to /var/log/razor-agent.log. I
could have sworn that I had done a chown spamd:spamd
/var/log/razor-agent.log on it. But when I checked it again, it was owned
by root:wheel. I must be going senile. :)

Well, thanks anyway; you solved it. :)

- Mark

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Re: Does spamd use Razor?

2003-02-06 Thread Philip Hallstrom

  Spamd might not be running as root so it may not have write access to
  /var/log/razor-agent.log.

 Indeed, I have spamd running as the special, unprivileged user spamd. But
 you were right: spamd did not have access to /var/log/razor-agent.log. I
 could have sworn that I had done a chown spamd:spamd
 /var/log/razor-agent.log on it. But when I checked it again, it was owned
 by root:wheel. I must be going senile. :)

Maybe newsyslog (/etc/newsyslog.conf) is changing it when it rotates the
file?

-philip


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Is anoncvs.freebsd.org down?

2003-02-06 Thread Greg Stumph

I've been trying to connect to anoncvs.freebsd.org all day, but no luck.

Is it down?

Thanks,
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Re: How to change Telnet Prelogin message?