Re: [Audyssey] accessible super mario game?

2011-01-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Hayden, Assuming you are using a stock Sun Java Runtime you can look in Add Remove Programs and it should list the Java Runtime Environment and version you are using. Another way to find out is to browse C:\Program Files\Java and you will se a directory something like JRE_1.6.0_15 which means

Re: [Audyssey] accessible super mario game?

2011-01-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Hayden, Well, to initialize java from the command line you really need to add it to your environment path variables. Otherwise you'll have a tricky time of trying to type a long path to the java executable. Anyway, rather than clicking on the *.exe file haven't you just tried clicking on the

[Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread michael barnes
Hey, I am looking for a real good game that have great music sound effects and gameplay and storyline. Something for the Iphone is what I'm looking for. I already have papa sangre. The game does have to be accessible for someone who is totally blind. So if anyone know of something please let

[Audyssey] Gamers notifications, please stop!

2011-01-15 Thread Shiny protector
Hi Thomas Raul, and the owner of audyssey, A request. Could you guys please stop this gamers chat robot thing? If people start to joyn again to the chat, np with continuing it, but if no one comes, its pointless to have these chat requests on. Thank you. --- Gamers mailing list __

Re: [Audyssey] [Odyssey] Gamers notifications, please stop!

2011-01-15 Thread Trouble
Really don't see a problem with this. Like you said if they come NP, but that is also left up to those that run the chat. Ever here of a delete key? I use it a lot on about 40 different lists. Not everything I reed and that is where that key comes in handy. I don't grip about it, because i got

Re: [Audyssey] [Odyssey] Gamers notifications, please stop!

2011-01-15 Thread Shiny protector
Yeah, I heard of a delete key, don't worry and I use that key. - Original Message - From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] [Odyssey] Gamers notifications, please stop!

Re: [Audyssey] BGT problem!

2011-01-15 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Thomas, Yeah you know I was trying to agree with you. But I do like different tools for different tasks. Like I have Word for reading docx files that I receive from the lawyer etc and I like HJ Pad for the spell checker. But like when I write a simple batch file or check a simple text

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Orin
Well, there isn't currently a whole lot right now. I dunno if the Gamebook adventures are accessible. Star Breed I hope will become accessible in the next few months I would hope. Right now I'm making my way through Soul Trapper. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks

Re: [Audyssey] [Odyssey] Gamers notifications, please stop!

2011-01-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi, I beg you, please do not put [audyssey] in your posts. We had that issue awhile ago. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shiny protector Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:36 AM To: Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] accessible super mario game?

2011-01-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi, I tried that one; I'll try it again, but the first time I tried it I got nothing. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 2:18 AM To: Gamers Discussion

Re: [Audyssey] accessible super mario game?

2011-01-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi, I see one labeled jre 6 and that's about it. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 2:13 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] accessible

Re: [Audyssey] [Odyssey] Gamers notifications, please stop!

2011-01-15 Thread Shiny protector
Oops, sorry, I didn't mean to put in audyssey in the subject line. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] [Odyssey] Gamers notifications, please

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Darren Duff
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Re: [Audyssey] accessible super mario game?

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Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Karl Belanger
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Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Darren Duff
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Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Tj Squires
Michael, try soul trapper. Tj On 1/15/2011 1:44 AM, michael barnes wrote: Hey, I am looking for a real good game that have great music sound effects and gameplay and storyline. Something for the Iphone is what I'm looking for. I already have papa sangre. The game does have to be accessible

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Shiny protector
The problem is that they can't be bothered to fix some simple issues. It doesn't cost money, and they're still moaning. They don't want to make the game accessible. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 4:59

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Tj Squires
It doesn't cost money? Darn. I bought it back in the day. Anyway, it's really not that hard with a little memorization. While I totally agree with you that people should push for active accessibility on apps, I also believe we should meet them half way. Meaning we should go the extra mile

Re: [Audyssey] BGT problem!

2011-01-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim, Well, the thing is once upon a time I use to use the Visual Basic, Visual C++, and Visual C# IDES as well, but as of Visual Studio 2010 the Visual Basic, Visual C++, Visual C#, and Visual Web Developer 2010 IDEs are fairly unaccessible. As a result I just do all the code in a text editor,

Re: [Audyssey] Gamers notifications, please stop!

2011-01-15 Thread Charles Rivard
If the chats are available, I think the announcements that they are available should continue. This lets new members know of their existence. If nobody attends, no harm done. If you don't plan to attend, no problem. Delete the announcement and move on. The only reason that I can see for no

Re: [Audyssey] BGT problem!

2011-01-15 Thread Philip Bennefall
Hi Thomas, Personally I use notepad for day to day work, but Code::Blocks as my programming IDE. Meaning I write the bulk of my code in notepad as I just find it more convenient, but whenever I do any kind of debugging or code tracing I fire up Code::Blocks. I also have that linked to the

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Charles Rivard
Use a search engine like www.google.com to see what you might find. Also, in order for anyone to help you, you've got to let people know what kind of game you're looking for. What you said you are looking for could be pretty much any game at all. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread michael barnes
Like I said in a messege a few minutes ago the game is not fully accessible with voice over. I would like to know what the buttons are. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list

Re: [Audyssey] Gamers notifications, please stop!

2011-01-15 Thread Shiny protector
And that's exactly what I'm saying. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gamers notifications, please stop! If the chats are available, I think

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Charles Rivard
They may not know how to make the games accessible. Saying that it will cost money that they don't have might be referring to the cost of paying programmers to make changes that are costly, not knowing that all they would have to do is to label buttons. How about suggesting ways they can make

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Orin
Money? I'm sorry, but that's a rather poor excuse. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jan 15, 2011, at 11:59 AM, michael barnes wrote: The problem with soul trapper is the buttons are not label so it would be hard for me to play. I contact the

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Orin
Agreed. I kind of hope that the guys at Anny Studios the people who make Star breed mean what they say when they say they'll look into it, because this isn't a labeling issue, and they're a two developer team, so they aren't making very much money in the long run anyhow. Orin

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Charles Rivard
A lack of money for game development can be a valid point, as any game developer for the visually impaired or blind can tell you. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com To: Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Darren Duff
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Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Darren Duff
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Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Shiny protector
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Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread michael barnes
Yes I agree with you and I have done that but they still give me the same thing. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list,

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Darren Duff
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Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

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Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Darren Duff
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Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

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[Audyssey] Help with Norten

2011-01-15 Thread Lori Duncan
Hi everyone I got a message on my computer saying a threat has been detected and to do a virus scan. At the moment I'm running Norten but have never needed to open it, but now when I go to do a scan it shows up as being not very accessible for Jaws. It says to navigate use tab, but when I try

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread michael barnes
Well if that is the case then what games for the iphone could I play being total blind? The kind of games I'm looking for is a RPG with music and sound effects. Another kind of game that I'm looking for is a sport game that will have scoring and not something like LOLriffic stuff sports games.

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Orin
I know that, but for labeling buttons money isn't an issue. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jan 15, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: A lack of money for game development can be a valid point, as any game developer for the visually

Re: [Audyssey] [Odyssey] Gamers notifications, please stop!

2011-01-15 Thread Alfredo_The_Music_maker
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Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Oriol Gómez
I'm sorry but I jsut can't help but jump in. Please stop taking it out on us as we're not iphone developers. I mean we're not here to tell you every game that's out there and surely if there was a good sports accesible game surely you'd have heard about it. It just gets frustrating when you send

Re: [Audyssey] [Odyssey] Gamers notifications, please stop!

2011-01-15 Thread Shiny protector
But they should stop, since no one goes to this chatroom. - Original Message - From: Alfredo_The_Music_maker birdlover2...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] [Odyssey] Gamers notifications, please

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Shiny protector
We're not taking anything out on you on the list, or at you. - Original Message - From: Oriol Gómez ogomez@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help? I'm sorry but I jsut

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Shiny protector
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Re: [Audyssey] [Odyssey] Gamers notifications, please stop!

2011-01-15 Thread Charles Rivard
Should speed limit signs be taken down on infrequently traveled roads? --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com To: birdlover2...@hotmail.com; Gamers Discussion list

Re: [Audyssey] Help with Norten

2011-01-15 Thread Shiny protector
Hi, 3 simple words with Norton. Don't...Waste...Your...Time. Just download AVG. go to. www.avg.com - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:09 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Help with

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Darren Duff
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[Audyssey] games with unlabelled buttons

2011-01-15 Thread Charles Rivard
Think about this: You have a digital TV at home. A remote control box operates it. Are the buttons labeled in braille? Does the remote speak when you press a button? Now, you are totally blind and nobody else is at home. You want to watch channel 32 and don't know what channel the TV is

Re: [Audyssey] games with unlabelled buttons

2011-01-15 Thread Darren Duff
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Re: [Audyssey] accessible imulaters

2011-01-15 Thread Tom Randall
Hi Shaun and all. I actually have the lua development stuff installed on this computer and have toyed with the idea of learning it to the point that I have found an online edition of a book that is supposed to teach it to you, but have not actually done much more than that yet. I used to do some

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Trouble
Out side of the web page given. The only thing I can say is its a new frontier, and they will come. After all there ain't all that many games for windows for us, but they are also changing. At 02:11 PM 1/15/2011, you wrote: Well if that is the case then what games for the iphone could I play

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Trouble
If your playing it on a mac. There is a way to label the buttons. you may need sighted help at first or just give them a shot and see what they do. then label that button. I have done it for a few programs that are not all labeled. At 01:09 PM 1/15/2011, you wrote: Like I said in a messege a

Re: [Audyssey] BGT problem!

2011-01-15 Thread Trouble
I didn't even install it after what I've read here and on the programming list. however, I did install dev++ and with a little scripting got the console window reading auto. but at least I can do decent code in it. At 12:46 PM 1/15/2011, you wrote: Hi Jim, Well, the thing is once upon a time

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Trouble
Well as far as the money goes. That would depend on the type of controls they used in the game. Apple does have accessible controls for use with voiceover. But if they used custom controls. then it would be a total rewrite of the program, and that would cost money. At 11:59 AM 1/15/2011, you

[Audyssey] Games for android?

2011-01-15 Thread Tom Randall
Ok since we seem to be on a kick about games for phones and other devices, have any of you had any luck with games for Android phones or devices? I have really not looked into this much but I know that the Eyes Free group has some games listed on their market page. So any experiences good or bad

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Darren Duff
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Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Darren Duff
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Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Shiny protector
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Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Kai
It may not outright cost them any revenue to make an App Voice Over compatible, but it definitely does cost them invested time, and does indeed require interest. It all comes back to: Is the investment worth the return capital? I'm by no means against advocating for accessibility, I'm just

[Audyssey] Flyte controlers?

2011-01-15 Thread Shiny protector
Hi, I have a question regarding flyte controllers. I am thinking to buy a flyte controller in the UK, but I don't no which shop to buy the flyte controller in. I'm looking for this type of flyte controller. Force feed back support. Left, right, up and down viewer. Frobel switch and 14 buttons.

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread michael barnes
Hey, I found a game call word zapper. And from the way it looks all the butttons are label. This game works like this it give you six letters and you find words with in the time limit to score you can also play online if you want. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Rynhardt Kruger
Well, there's a difference between making a 3d graphical game accessible and just using standard accessibility practices. Labeling a button is a standard UI practice that isn't just good for accessibility, but is good software design in general. And it don't really take that much time, just an

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Trouble
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Re: [Audyssey] Flyte controlers?

2011-01-15 Thread Charles Rivard
What a great use for a search engine. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com To: discuss...@bpcprograms.com Cc: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday,

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Darren Duff
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Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Darren Duff
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Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Darren Duff
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Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread michael barnes
Well the thing is I would like to start a app with out having a pare of eyes to figure out the layout. Or guest what is what. A sighted or low vision person don't have to so it need to be the same for totally blind people. That is why I havn't got the Wii or any other game system. I don't

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Tom Randall
Hi Michael and all. While one does occasionally require sighted assistance when dealing with a mainstream console, in my case mainly my ps3, I find that most times I require little or no sighted assistance and can generally time things that I do need help with for when it is available. You will

Re: [Audyssey] Help with Norten

2011-01-15 Thread dark
Norton used to be accessible, but flashy uptdates stopped it from being so. I'd personally recommend you change your antivirus to something more screen reader friendly like avg (what I use), avast or nod 32 (other people have confirmed these work with screen readers). I'd personally

Re: [Audyssey] games with unlabelled buttons

2011-01-15 Thread dark
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Re: [Audyssey] Help with Norten

2011-01-15 Thread enes
hi lori, this a bit off topic but mcafee, norton, bitdefender, kaspersky and comoto antiviruses are inaccessible and avira latest but you can still run 9.0 i have requested them to fix this issue they say in 11.0 release microsoft, avg, avast, avira antiviruses are accessible so if you didin't

Re: [Audyssey] Help with Norten

2011-01-15 Thread enes
though i recommend avira 9 when it finds a virus you will hear a sound and will be able to press ok if you want to test this application i may post the download link in my dropbox -- From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com Sent: Saturday,

Re: [Audyssey] Help with Norten

2011-01-15 Thread enes
hi, why do a scan for 1 or 2 viruses? in avira it's just ok done if it can't delete it you can scan -- From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:30 PM To: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com; Gamers Discussion

Re: [Audyssey] Help with Norten

2011-01-15 Thread dark
Avg is the same, it just does an auto scan and munch of any viruses on the system, not to mention having a rather handy link scanner to stop you getting viruses in the first place, pluss it does a very good job with spyware and rootkits. I also am a hge fan of their pc tune up program

Re: [Audyssey] Help with Norten

2011-01-15 Thread shaun everiss
I have microsoft. Its not naughty, its accessible and recourse officient. YOu lose 99% of the manual controls though which is fine for me. At 05:52 p.m. 16/01/2011, you wrote: hi lori, this a bit off topic but mcafee, norton, bitdefender, kaspersky and comoto antiviruses are inaccessible and

Re: [Audyssey] Could someone please help?

2011-01-15 Thread Clement Chou
Just keep in mind that in terms of understanding movelists and the like, sighted people have to read up and understand movelists for fighting games just as much... if they want to get good. So it isn't only us who need to read those things. Sighted people do just as much, in fact sometimes may

[Audyssey] bowling boxing sword

2011-01-15 Thread michael barnes
Hey, does anyone know of any boxing bowling sword fighting fishing games for the iphone that will let me use the motion aspect? I have this home run derby game and it let me use the phone as a baseball batt. I mean I get to hold the phone like a bat and swing. When it comes to a sword fighting