Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Trouble, Thanks for the corrections. I don't actually own a Mac myself although I have used them a few times at my relatives' house. So I do appreciate the updated information. However, my main point was to point out that just because someone invests in a Mac or Linux PC it isn't the end of

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, These days with software like Boot Camp that's not altogether true. There are ways of having the best of both worlds. It is just that many Windows users don't know about them so they are afraid to invest in a Mac or Linux system believing as you do that they have to give up all

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-03 Thread Trouble
Just to clear a few things up. With boot camp your second op is not running in virtual mode. It is running under full system resources. So on the new mac's it would be like a regular pc. Now if you want the best of both worlds and ops. You can run them together with the second op in the

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-03 Thread shaun everiss
I heard about that. apple made a bit of fuss a bit late in the game to say they were not happy about it but it didn't stay up there for long, and my guess is they were annoyed enough to put up a small objection but not to much really. At 01:35 a.m. 4/01/2010, you wrote: Just to clear a few

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-03 Thread Trouble
There objection to the hackintosh is We won't support it, or update it. you will also be black listed for apple products. if you even ask them to go near it.. So they rest easy on that note. Now for windows running under or on mac hardware. It runs better then under pc proven fact. At 01:41

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-03 Thread shaun everiss
well I have no issue with hackentosh stuff being unsupported its not exactly using apple hardware really. At 11:03 a.m. 4/01/2010, you wrote: There objection to the hackintosh is We won't support it, or update it. you will also be black listed for apple products. if you even ask them to go near

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread dark
That makes sense Tom, though I do want a machine which will do what i WANT IT TO. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH ON THE KEYBOARD END THOUGH, Hal's laptop layout I've never had a problem with, indeed I've used it for significantly longer than the desktop layout which also uses the numbpad, as up

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread dark
toshiba is sort of a favourite family make, my brothers' 9 year old machine is stil working, as is my 7 year old one (though the fan needs replacing). I did once try an acer, but found it notoriously problematic and unrelyable compared to toshiba, in fact, this laptop I'm using now

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread shaun everiss
well the reason I like toshiba over most stuff is that it hardly crashes. the satelites do a bit more but they are stable. the tecra is almost indestructible. though its come close. The major selling point about toshiba over other systems is because its got almost accessible programs, and full

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread Hayden Presley
: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Hi Dark, Hmmm...I've had some pretty good luck with Toshiba laptops over the years. I've used a couple different moddels, and have no lasting complaints. My Compaq laptop on the other hand has had

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Ah...As I said I have yet to find a Toshiba laptop I haven't liked. Everyone I've owned and used was a good one. Plus I've ran Windows and Linux on them successfully so they are at the top of my list of recommended brands. Running games on them is equally pretty decent for a laptop.

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Very true. Plus I've noticed Toshiba is pretty open to the idea of supporting other operating systems besides Windows. Del does as well, but I've found a few brands like Averatec that are almost impossible to run anything but Windows on it. So add the reliability of the Toshiba

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread peter Mahach
@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Hi Shaun, Very true. Plus I've noticed Toshiba is pretty open to the idea of supporting other operating systems besides Windows. Del does as well, but I've found a few brands like Averatec

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Hayden, Yes, my wife and I both have had technical problems with our Compaq notebooks. The right shift key stopped working on mine, and both of ours have had problems with the dvd drive that came with the system. I had to replace mine, and my wifes stopped working and just before we sent it

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Peter, Fortunately, my Compaq notebook has never gotten so hot it started melting keys. That sounds very very bad. in fact, I've left mine on all night before doing a download or something and it was fine the next morning. Although, laptops in general aren't designed to be left on for

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread dark
, January 02, 2010 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Hi Peter, Fortunately, my Compaq notebook has never gotten so hot it started melting keys. That sounds very very bad. in fact, I've left mine on all night before doing a download or something and it was fine the next morning

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread shaun everiss
well the satelites can be a bit hmph but they do run ok for a bit. At 05:24 a.m. 3/01/2010, you wrote: Hi Dark, Ah...As I said I have yet to find a Toshiba laptop I haven't liked. Everyone I've owned and used was a good one. Plus I've ran Windows and Linux on them successfully so they are at the

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread shaun everiss
well toshiba like to say they can run with any system. there are toshiba hardware things on the system like the modem, and some other protection systems finger print scanners and the like but most of it is generic. The issue I have with dels in general is the fact that once you install the

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread peter Mahach
@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Hi Peter, Fortunately, my Compaq notebook has never gotten so hot it started melting keys. That sounds very very bad. in fact, I've left mine on all night before doing a download or something

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread shaun everiss
where if it's too hot t'll cut power and not let you boot for a while. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Hi Shaun, Very true. Plus

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread shaun everiss
actually the safest stuff to buy is a non branded system. We have a couple an amd and an intel. Both of these were got all in pieces and put together by a tech we know it costs us parts but still. No branded things means except for what comes with the dvd drive and other drivers we can run

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread shaun everiss
its funny how the older stuff seems to last longer than the newer stuff. The registry is more stable than it was but it can still get mangled. file systems are better. However in the old days, win98 or win95 you could run almost on nothing at all. ofcause registry was simpler then. in early xp

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread shaun everiss
for years felt very weerd to me. beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Hi Peter, Fortunately, my Compaq notebook has

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Yeah, most Del laptops I've seen have a Soundmax AC-97 sound card on them. It isn't the world's greatest sound card for games and multimedia, but it is ok. The one thing I happen to like about that sound card is the AC-97 is a very generic chipset and works with just about everything

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Ah, that's another brand I don't recommend. I have seen my fair share of issues with NEC computers. I even have a personal name for them, National Equivalent of Crap, that dates back to my college days when I worked at the computer help desk. I remember quite clearly a case where

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Oh, don't get me started on the Windows registry. I hate the Windows registry with a passion simply because it is too easy to get damaged. One thing I do when I am repairing someone's system i always run a registry scan on them using Registry Mechanic or Registry Fix, and I usually

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread Bryan Peterson
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Hi Shaun, Oh, don't get me started on the Windows registry. I hate the Windows registry with a passion simply because it is too easy to get damaged. One thing I do

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread peter Mahach
really? laptops in the 80's and 90's had no fans? btw if you want such stability, the lack of registry etc switch to a mac. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nzTo: Gamers __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4333

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread Hayden Presley
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Hi Hayden, Yes, my wife and I both have had technical problems with our Compaq notebooks. The right shift key stopped working on mine, and both of ours have had problems with the dvd drive that came with the system. I had to replace mine, and my wifes

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread shaun everiss
well I clear with reg scrub xp and it works fine. Though when I upgrade the system I want to have a free something that will do this and not be to aggressive. I need to install flash and shockwave after a clean because these always get mangled somehow but. At 07:50 a.m. 3/01/2010, you wrote: Hi

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread shaun everiss
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Hi Shaun, Oh, don't get me started on the Windows registry. I hate the Windows registry with a passion simply because it is too easy to get damaged. One thing I do when I am repairing someone's system i always run

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-02 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm i would, but since most stuff is windows based I can't. At 11:12 a.m. 3/01/2010, you wrote: really? laptops in the 80's and 90's had no fans? btw if you want such stability, the lack of registry etc switch to a mac. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nzTo:

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread Jason Allen
Netbooks have to have seriously capped memory and processor speeds to meet Microsoft's discounted XP licensing. I'd hesitate to use them for gaming unless you're sure the new netbook is faster than your current laptop. One thing that's often overlooked is the front side bus speed. Everything might

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread dark
the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:26 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Hi Dark, Well, from what I've seen Netbooks aren't the best choice for playing

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread dark
right. It's not ridiculously slow in my oppinion, and with this particular one I've never had a game that just flat out wouldn't run. - Original Message - From: dark To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread dark
Message - From: Jason Allen evildi...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Netbooks have to have seriously capped memory and processor speeds to meet Microsoft's discounted XP licensing. I'd

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread Scott Chesworth
: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Netbooks have to have seriously capped memory and processor speeds to meet Microsoft's discounted XP licensing. I'd hesitate to use them for gaming unless you're sure the new netbook is faster than your current laptop. One

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread dark
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Netbooks have to have seriously capped memory and processor speeds to meet Microsoft's discounted XP licensing. I'd hesitate to use them for gaming unless you're sure the new netbook is faster than your current

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread Scott Chesworth
. - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Hey Dark, If you're happy with your current laptop aside from hard drive space

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread dark
:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Hi Dark, Yah, logic would assume that the mobo and onboard sound and the like would be the same chipsets, and I can't argue with the portability factor. I haven't looked at the specs of the N140, but can do so tomorrow when I'm back on proper

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Well, I've managed to do some research between the time I wrote you last, and it would appear some of my information on the ssd drives was wrong. Thanks to a post from someone off list he sent me a link to an article found on Wikipedia comparing conventional hard drives to solid

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread dark
Hi tom. thanks for checking. i was banking on the basis that audio games, unlike games like the latest doom or halflife offerings don't require gigantic processing speed or huge ram, however lack of sound card doesn't sound as well (ha ha), especially sinse I want the netbook for

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread dark
such an issue, I might also considder that as an option. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Hi Dark, Hmmm

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, No problem. All I can really say hear is I've looked at a few netbooks myself a few months back, and I wasn't too impressed by them. Wal-Mart and Best Buy, for example, is nutorious for writing up a list of specifications that sound good on paper, but totally ignore the little

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Hmmm...I've had some pretty good luck with Toshiba laptops over the years. I've used a couple different moddels, and have no lasting complaints. My Compaq laptop on the other hand has had some rather serious hardware issues like a dvd rom drive that died a couple of months after I

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2009-12-31 Thread Philip Bennefall
Hi Dark, The experience that I've had giving support to people with netbooks is that it's a bit of a hit and miss, sometimes the game works flawlessly and sometimes it has issues. This is despite the fact that all these people were running Windows xp or above, and has more to do with

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2009-12-31 Thread dark
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games Hi Dark, The experience that I've had giving support to people with netbooks is that it's a bit of a hit and miss, sometimes the game works flawlessly and sometimes it has issues. This is despite the fact that all these people were running Windows xp

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2009-12-31 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Well, from what I've seen Netbooks aren't the best choice for playing games and music on. They are very hit and miss, and I've heard of some success stories and just as many bad experiences with them. The fact it might be running XP is a bit of a misnomer, because it's all about the

Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2009-12-31 Thread Valiant8086
not ridiculously slow in my oppinion, and with this particular one I've never had a game that just flat out wouldn't run. - Original Message - From: dark To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games thanks Phil