[Audyssey] Entombed Jobs

2010-02-28 Thread John Snowling

Hi all.

Have tried the bard as one of my jobs that soothing song does some good 
stuff.


Will try the ranger healer on my next attempt.



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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Muhammed Deniz

Hello Thomas,
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Now, this is the technique I use. If your necro's swords did 50 damage, then 
you could kill him.

But if it does 100 dammage, you could kill him in two hits.
So 50 4, and 100 2.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 

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Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 11:30 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
ground to fight the Drake.

As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?

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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Muhammed Deniz

Its 8 on the numberwro to target the head.

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From: "Thomas Ward" 

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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



Hi Richard,
that's some very valuable information. However, how exactly to you
target a specific part of the body. Every time I play it seams like
the game picks a body part at random. If there is a specific way to
turn the random attack off and give me the choice of head, body, legs,
hands, whatever please let me know. I've been wondering if there was a
more inteligent way of targeting and directing my attacks to do the
most damage and the most good against any enemy let alone the Drake.

Thanks.


On 2/27/10, Richard Sherman  wrote:

Hi,

Possible spoilers ahead, so read at your own risk.
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Most magic does not work on the drake. There are a couple that work 
really
well. They are shrink, curse, and web. I think that slow also works on 
the

drake. There are a couple others, but cannot remember exactly right off.
Sure someone else will elaborate.

The shrink is special in that the drake takes more damage, and dishes out
less when shrunk. The shrink spell can be cast by mages, and found on
certain scrolls. But it only lasts a short time, depending on the level 
of

the spell. Or, make any of your party grow. Especially the fighters. They
will do quite a bit of damage when all grown up.

Curse is good in that the drake will receive maximum damage, while always
dishing out minimum damage. This spell lasts for the entire length of the
battle. The curse spell can only be cast from a scroll.

The web can only be cast by a scroll. Unless you have a spider skeleton
handy. it will make the drake immobile, and unable to move. This too is a
limited time effect.

Also, anything that strengthens your party is good. Enlighten, grow and
haste come to mind.

Ice blast also seems to do more damage than fire bolt.

Don't waste flurry on the drake. Your fighter will then stand around too
much afterwards.

Target the head. You might hit the neck also. This is the most vulnerable
spot on the drake. The only problem is that you have a slightly higher
probability of missing. But if your fighter connects, it will definitely 
do

some damage.

Save before battling the drake. If all fails, restart the game and try
again. Or, if possible, go past the drake and come back later when you 
have

more hp per character, or more powerful and appropriate scrolls.

HTH.

rich
- Original Message -
From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 3:30 PM


Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
ground to fight the Drake.

As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?


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Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs

2010-02-28 Thread Muhammed Deniz

Jon,
Tri that and you know what you would get?. Well, it has the lightening 
spell.

It has the suman animal spell. and the other ones are for you to find out!

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- Original Message - 
From: "John Snowling" 

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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:25 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs



Hi all.

Have tried the bard as one of my jobs that soothing song does some good 
stuff.


Will try the ranger healer on my next attempt.



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Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs

2010-02-28 Thread Milos Przic
  Hello, someone mensioned the assassine. Is it a sinonim for the thief in 
the case of entombed? If not, how to make the assassin job available?

  Thanks,
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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:25 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs



Hi all.

Have tried the bard as one of my jobs that soothing song does some good 
stuff.


Will try the ranger healer on my next attempt.



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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
I tried to do some searching for it but haven't found anything.  It would be 
fun to find it though.

Ron

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Well, not too relevant, and can't currently really get winFrotz TTS to work
on my one machine, but there's an interactive fiction version of leisure
suit larry in something like the .z5 format out there.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
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[Audyssey] another three d velocity record

2010-02-28 Thread Muhammed Deniz
Hi guys,
Another record of three d velocity. This time it was the long track, and I 
ended it in 4 min 26 or 20 seck.
I played both of the modes with the keyboard, and I also won the death match.
But in the racing mode, it took a long time for the other racers to come.
I came in first, racer 2 got second, and racer 1 got surved.
This was on the long track. Also in the death match mode, here is what happened.
I was trying to kill the second fighter, and I couldn't. You know why?. Because 
fighter 1 mannaged to kill him with a crues missal, and some other missals.
But I didn't get a chance with the gun.
I tried that on the second fighter, and stuff were good and bad.
I  used my 5 missals, but only 1 hit.
Oh crap! he fired a crues missal at me, but I dodged it. I fired my lts and 
went up to dodg, and I came down with my crues missal, and his gon!
So in short, fighter 1, is a dead fighter for now!
Or maybe not in the mission mode, haha!

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Re: [Audyssey] entopmbed jobs

2010-02-28 Thread dark

It is one of the unlockable jobs in either the demo or full version.

Let me know if you want a spoiler.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 8:19 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] entopmbed jobs



Hi.

Is the druid a job that appears later within the game or can it be played 
from the start?


Must admit I am glad I purchased it but looking forward to the bugs being 
fixed.



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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread dark

Hi Tom.

The important thing to remember about the drake is that he gets fewer 
attacks than you do. so, you need to make fewer count. Thus, shrinking him 
with a mage is always a good plan, as are using slow scrolls on him while 
using haste scrolls on yourself. Confusion scrolls also help sinse he'll be 
attacking himself some of the time, as do web and paralize scrolls for 
obvious reasons.


Also, with a melee setup like the one you've got, your probably best off 
aiming at the drakes' abdomin or neck, sinse the drake can suffer manglement 
in either place with enough damage.


Lastly, remember that for every technique you use there's a price, sinse 
every technique has a much longer cool down time than normal fight commands. 
Thus, doing a flurry or multishot should be thought about carefully, 
particularly if you combine it with something like sneak attack to do extra 
damage.


Lastly, remember the importance of passive skills like duel ield and (for 
certain classes), crytical hits.


I've defeated the drake at level 7 with various party setups, bu have always 
needed to use scrolls etc to tweak the odds.


Hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 11:30 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
ground to fight the Drake.

As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?

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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread dark
Actually richard, sinse the recent upgrade, the drake is much more 
subseptable to magic. it stil cannot be chalmed, however every other spell 
works exceptionally well including confuse, slow, paralize, web, curse and 
shrink,  all of which could be handy.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



Hi,

Possible spoilers ahead, so read at your own risk.
s
p
o
i
l
e
r
s
p
a
c
e


Most magic does not work on the drake. There are a couple that work really
well. They are shrink, curse, and web. I think that slow also works on the
drake. There are a couple others, but cannot remember exactly right off.
Sure someone else will elaborate.

The shrink is special in that the drake takes more damage, and dishes out
less when shrunk. The shrink spell can be cast by mages, and found on
certain scrolls. But it only lasts a short time, depending on the level of
the spell. Or, make any of your party grow. Especially the fighters. They
will do quite a bit of damage when all grown up.

Curse is good in that the drake will receive maximum damage, while always
dishing out minimum damage. This spell lasts for the entire length of the
battle. The curse spell can only be cast from a scroll.

The web can only be cast by a scroll. Unless you have a spider skeleton
handy. it will make the drake immobile, and unable to move. This too is a
limited time effect.

Also, anything that strengthens your party is good. Enlighten, grow and
haste come to mind.

Ice blast also seems to do more damage than fire bolt.

Don't waste flurry on the drake. Your fighter will then stand around too
much afterwards.

Target the head. You might hit the neck also. This is the most vulnerable
spot on the drake. The only problem is that you have a slightly higher
probability of missing. But if your fighter connects, it will definitely 
do

some damage.

Save before battling the drake. If all fails, restart the game and try
again. Or, if possible, go past the drake and come back later when you 
have

more hp per character, or more powerful and appropriate scrolls.

HTH.

rich
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward

Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 3:30 PM


Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
ground to fight the Drake.

As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?


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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread dark

Hi tom.

Hold down the numbers either on the numbpad or row when launching an attack 
or spell. 1 for lower left side, 3 for lower right, 4 for upper left, 6 
upper right, 5 for center of body and 8 for head and kneck.


Be warned though, that targiting increases your chance to miss with melee 
attacks, and not everything can be targited, though can be very satisfying 
when your sending heads flying!


It's also the best way of using the heal spell, by targiting it to a 
specific body part.
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From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



Hi Richard,
that's some very valuable information. However, how exactly to you
target a specific part of the body. Every time I play it seams like
the game picks a body part at random. If there is a specific way to
turn the random attack off and give me the choice of head, body, legs,
hands, whatever please let me know. I've been wondering if there was a
more inteligent way of targeting and directing my attacks to do the
most damage and the most good against any enemy let alone the Drake.

Thanks.


On 2/27/10, Richard Sherman  wrote:

Hi,

Possible spoilers ahead, so read at your own risk.
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Most magic does not work on the drake. There are a couple that work 
really
well. They are shrink, curse, and web. I think that slow also works on 
the

drake. There are a couple others, but cannot remember exactly right off.
Sure someone else will elaborate.

The shrink is special in that the drake takes more damage, and dishes out
less when shrunk. The shrink spell can be cast by mages, and found on
certain scrolls. But it only lasts a short time, depending on the level 
of

the spell. Or, make any of your party grow. Especially the fighters. They
will do quite a bit of damage when all grown up.

Curse is good in that the drake will receive maximum damage, while always
dishing out minimum damage. This spell lasts for the entire length of the
battle. The curse spell can only be cast from a scroll.

The web can only be cast by a scroll. Unless you have a spider skeleton
handy. it will make the drake immobile, and unable to move. This too is a
limited time effect.

Also, anything that strengthens your party is good. Enlighten, grow and
haste come to mind.

Ice blast also seems to do more damage than fire bolt.

Don't waste flurry on the drake. Your fighter will then stand around too
much afterwards.

Target the head. You might hit the neck also. This is the most vulnerable
spot on the drake. The only problem is that you have a slightly higher
probability of missing. But if your fighter connects, it will definitely 
do

some damage.

Save before battling the drake. If all fails, restart the game and try
again. Or, if possible, go past the drake and come back later when you 
have

more hp per character, or more powerful and appropriate scrolls.

HTH.

rich
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From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 3:30 PM


Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
ground to fight the Drake.

As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?


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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Jacob,

That would be fun to play the interactive fiction version of leisure 
suit Larry as I do not believe that the original version was accessible at all.  I think that all of the text was graphical not real text.


BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Jorge,

Cool! thanks.  It's good to know that I'm not the only one that thinks that way.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Thomas,

Yeah, I don't know why sex is so taboo for so many people in the U. S.  I have 
always thought that it was a beautiful thing.  Now games, movies etc that 
combine sex and violence really get me upset.  Some might say that is what 
spanker does, but as I mentioned the motto is safe, sane and consensual.

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Johnny,

That's cool that the Japanese are less inhibited about sex than the U. S.  No wonder 
I have always had a thing for Japanese women.   I have always heard that 
the Europeans are also less inhibited.  With nudity on regular TV etc.  I wonder if 
computer games produced in those countries reflect their less inhibited views about 
sex.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Muhammed,

Well that is your opinion.  Personally I do not like violence even in a game.  I am 
anti war, anti violence etc.  I would much more like to be doing things that feel 
good or are fun or are at least more productive than killing and dyeing.  And I 
believe that there are games that are fast paced, exciting and full of action without 
all of the killing and dyeing.  And I have been playing computer and or video games 
since the nineteen seventies.  So you know, I am probably not going to change my 
opinion now. 

BFN

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Hi Jim,
Onnestly. Its much more fun to play action games. I meen sports games are 
also fun, but you could enjoy action games.
I could remember when the first time that I was playing a ranger in 
entombed, I was very excited with the molty shot skill. I use to bash all 
enemies with it, and I was jumping when I saw it!.
I was at bed after that, and the next day. It was all to well, when I met my 
new enemie. The gardaiun!.
It was very hard to kill him, and he was keep on winning. Luckly, I played 
as a ranger healer in one of my saved games, but once I won it.

The healer was my secondary job, but I got killed by awolf.
When I started a new game, It was all fine. Even the drake was nothing for 
me!


Best of luck,
Muhammed.


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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Shaun,

Yeah, not every one likes the same kind of games.  Just like in Thomas's survey 
people voted for every one of the different types of games.  I doubt if there 
is even one game out there that every one would say that they like.  That's 
just the way that it is I guess.

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well msyelf I don't care about violence, sex or anything.
However the games like ultimate warfair2 well one mission of it where you are a 
terrorist shooting people for no good reason is hmmm wrong. has no purpose.
Now if you need to have a stratogy where you need to complete an objective, a x 
ammount of obsticles are in the way, and x ammount of times and ways you could 
die and to not die and to say have a time limit or something hmmm thats good.
thats why I like some fps side scrollers etc.
My favorite whould still be the rpg.

Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Glenna,

That is great to hear, thanks.

BFN

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To: "Audyssey" 
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 2:51 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Adult games



Hi,

Speaking of adult games, in my opinion, violence is way worse than sex.  I 
know that is not the popular opinion but being a long time peace loving 
hippie it is my opinion.  So to me games where you are bashing and or 
killing monsters, animals or humans would be worse for kids to be playing 
than games with a bit of sexual content in them.


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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Dark,

Yeah, back when I could see to play video games and I was shooting down aliens 
they sure didn't look like anything recognizable.  That of course was Space 
Invaders on the Atari 2600.

Sorry to hear that you don't care for sexual content in games.  I wish that 
there were more of them.  But on the sites that I visit the motto is safe, sane 
and consensual.  Which sounds right to me.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread dark

I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake Sean.

I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins, 
bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.


The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and 
paladin.


there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use scrolls 
strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't just try 
using the same move constantly!


(I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and one 
to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "shaun everiss" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



no not the drake.
Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality 
with int and other increases.

scroles work on him to.
The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if you 
are a ogar.

you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs at 
level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers 
would work.

the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.

I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
maybe.
At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
ground to fight the Drake.

As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?

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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
Hi

  I'll agree, I've beaten the Drake many times and with various combos of 
races and jobs.  Most recently I had the Drake grappled by my ogre brawler 
which made for some easy pickings.  I dislike some views of oh you have to 
do it this way.  Also I've never went past the Drake for more XP and came 
back.  I've always taken it out on the way down.  It's a battle you can win, 
though not always an easy one.

Ron
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake Sean.

I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins,
bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.

The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and
paladin.

there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use scrolls
strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't just try
using the same move constantly!

(I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and one
to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


> no not the drake.
> Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
> its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality
> with int and other increases.
> scroles work on him to.
> The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if you
> are a ogar.
> you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
> one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
> grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs at
> level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
> I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers
> would work.
> the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.
>
> I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
> maybe.
> At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:
>>Hi everyone,
>>I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
>>the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
>>I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.
>>
>>Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
>>sword and the best armour I could find for her.
>>Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
>>staff and light armour/cloathing.
>>Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
>>legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
>>don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
>>and basically get chopped up in the process.
>>Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
>>Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
>>was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
>>Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
>>ground to fight the Drake.
>>
>>As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
>>kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
>>dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
>>and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
>>missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
>>up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
>>floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
>>roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results

2010-02-28 Thread dark
Nice notion indeed Charlese,  afterall we players have to remember that 
most audio game devs do it as a hobby not a main job, and thus have their 
own preferences to considder as well as hours.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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From: "Charles Rivard" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results



Know what I'd like to see, out of interest?  A survey similar to this one,
only from the standpoint of game developers.  What games would you like to
produce that were listed on this survey?  What speech scheme would be
easiest for you to work with when producing games?  That sort of stuff.
We've seen it from the gamer's side, I'd like to see it from the
manufacturing side, too.  I think it would be interesting.
---
In God we trust!
- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:01 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results


Hello everyone,
I thought many of you, especially game developers, might be interested
to know what the audio games community had to say regarding the
marketing survey posted yesterday. The results are pretty interesting,
and gives a good idea of where gamer's interests are as well as what
hardware and software they have. Here is the early results of the
survey thus far.

Age:

The youngest person polled was 11-years old and the oldest member was
55-years old. The average age of our target market is between 18 and
31.

Operating Systems:

The number one operating system prefered by our target market is
Windows XP followed by Windows Vista. The least amount of votes was
for Mac OS.
Although, nearly everyone surveyed liked the idea of games being
created for Mac or Linux using Cider or Cedega as long as they got the
same features as on Windows, but most prefered to stick with Windows
XP themselves.

Input Devices:

The most popular input device is the keyboard with a few requesting
better joystick support. Nearly everyone polled felt that adding a
joystick with force feedback support would be a good selling point for
the game, and something they'd like to see done. Especially, in the
case of a racing game or flight game where force feedback enabled
stearing wheels and flightsticks adds extra realism for the game.

Speech Output:

Regarding speech out put the survey was split pretty equally between
those that wanted prerecorded speech and those who would rather have
Sapi support. All of those in favor of prerecorded speech mentioned
they'd like to see more human voices, voice acting, etc rather than
just prerecorded clips of TTS voices. Those in favor of Sapi were less
concerned about speech quality and were in favor of the ability to
select a voice, speed, volume, and customize the voice using their
favorite Sapi speech engine/voice.  A couple were in favor of using
their screen reader instead, but weren't enough to really consider
that an option compared to the other two alternatives.

Game Genres:

The number one response to wwhich type of game people liked to play
was all of the above which included: arcade, side-scroller, first
person, sports, and text adventure. Several expressed an interest in
arcade games. Many also expressed an interest in side-scrollers, and
wanted to see more games like Mysteries of the Ancients. A few
specifically mentioned an interest in first person as well, but not as
many as the other two catagories.

Conclusion:

So far what the survey results show is that a commercial developers
largest market is users running Windows XP, between the ages of 18 and
31, and they would like to see features such as force feedback that
are really only supported through DirectX. Many would like to have
Sapi support so they can have control over the speech settings, and
others want more realistic human voices if it is possible. As far as
any specific genre of game any type of game will do, will find a
market, but arcade games and side-scrollers seam to have the most
specific interest at the moment.
On behalf of USA Games Interactive I want to thank everyone who filled
out the survey, and wish you all the best. The survey is officially
continuing, but I think we now have a pretty good idea of where the
market is, and what people are interested in.

Sincerely,
Thomas Ward
USA Games Interactive
http://www.usagamesinteractive.com

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Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs

2010-02-28 Thread dark
The assassin is one of the extra jobs you get if you buy the game, along 
with barbarian, bard, paladin, brawler and monk.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs


  Hello, someone mensioned the assassine. Is it a sinonim for the thief in 
the case of entombed? If not, how to make the assassin job available?

  Thanks,
 Milos Przic
msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com
skype: Milosh-hs
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To: "audyssey" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:25 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs



Hi all.

Have tried the bard as one of my jobs that soothing song does some good 
stuff.


Will try the ranger healer on my next attempt.



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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Darren Harris
That's a difficult one to answer really. It's still in some places over here
in the UK considered a no go subject or something that people don't really
like to talk about. Which I think is silly. I mean ok from a child accessing
stuff like that ok I wouldn't want that for my child if I had 1 but equally
I don't think people should be closed minded about sex either. 

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Behalf Of Jim Kitchen
Sent: 28 February 2010 12:52
To: Johnny Tai
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Adult games


Hi Johnny,

That's cool that the Japanese are less inhibited about sex than the U. S.
No wonder I have always had a thing for Japanese women.   I have
always heard that the Europeans are also less inhibited.  With nudity on
regular TV etc.  I wonder if computer games produced in those countries
reflect their less inhibited views about sex.

BFN

 Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results

2010-02-28 Thread Muhammed Deniz

Then if they do it as a hobby, why do they sell the games?.
The best sight for games is, audio games!
Go to.
www.audiogames.net
msn:
muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk
Skype:
muhammed.deniz
- Original Message - 
From: "dark" 
To: "Charles Rivard" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results


Nice notion indeed Charlese,  afterall we players have to remember 
that most audio game devs do it as a hobby not a main job, and thus have 
their own preferences to considder as well as hours.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Rivard" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results


Know what I'd like to see, out of interest?  A survey similar to this 
one,
only from the standpoint of game developers.  What games would you like 
to

produce that were listed on this survey?  What speech scheme would be
easiest for you to work with when producing games?  That sort of stuff.
We've seen it from the gamer's side, I'd like to see it from the
manufacturing side, too.  I think it would be interesting.
---
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- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:01 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results


Hello everyone,
I thought many of you, especially game developers, might be interested
to know what the audio games community had to say regarding the
marketing survey posted yesterday. The results are pretty interesting,
and gives a good idea of where gamer's interests are as well as what
hardware and software they have. Here is the early results of the
survey thus far.

Age:

The youngest person polled was 11-years old and the oldest member was
55-years old. The average age of our target market is between 18 and
31.

Operating Systems:

The number one operating system prefered by our target market is
Windows XP followed by Windows Vista. The least amount of votes was
for Mac OS.
Although, nearly everyone surveyed liked the idea of games being
created for Mac or Linux using Cider or Cedega as long as they got the
same features as on Windows, but most prefered to stick with Windows
XP themselves.

Input Devices:

The most popular input device is the keyboard with a few requesting
better joystick support. Nearly everyone polled felt that adding a
joystick with force feedback support would be a good selling point for
the game, and something they'd like to see done. Especially, in the
case of a racing game or flight game where force feedback enabled
stearing wheels and flightsticks adds extra realism for the game.

Speech Output:

Regarding speech out put the survey was split pretty equally between
those that wanted prerecorded speech and those who would rather have
Sapi support. All of those in favor of prerecorded speech mentioned
they'd like to see more human voices, voice acting, etc rather than
just prerecorded clips of TTS voices. Those in favor of Sapi were less
concerned about speech quality and were in favor of the ability to
select a voice, speed, volume, and customize the voice using their
favorite Sapi speech engine/voice.  A couple were in favor of using
their screen reader instead, but weren't enough to really consider
that an option compared to the other two alternatives.

Game Genres:

The number one response to wwhich type of game people liked to play
was all of the above which included: arcade, side-scroller, first
person, sports, and text adventure. Several expressed an interest in
arcade games. Many also expressed an interest in side-scrollers, and
wanted to see more games like Mysteries of the Ancients. A few
specifically mentioned an interest in first person as well, but not as
many as the other two catagories.

Conclusion:

So far what the survey results show is that a commercial developers
largest market is users running Windows XP, between the ages of 18 and
31, and they would like to see features such as force feedback that
are really only supported through DirectX. Many would like to have
Sapi support so they can have control over the speech settings, and
others want more realistic human voices if it is possible. As far as
any specific genre of game any type of game will do, will find a
market, but arcade games and side-scrollers seam to have the most
specific interest at the moment.
On behalf of USA Games Interactive I want to thank everyone who filled
out the survey, and wish you all the best. The survey is officially
continuing, but I think we now have a pretty good idea of where the
market is, and what people are interested in.

Sincerely,
Thomas Ward
USA Games Interactive
http://www.usagamesinteractive.com

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread dark
Morally jim, I absolutely agree, what two concenting people,  or even 
one person on her/his own do is entirely their business,  as one of my 
favourite ethicists, Mr. Js mill said, do what you like as long as you don't 
harm others doing it.


my dislike of s/x is purely personal, and not based on any sort of 
prescriptive view of what anyone else should or should not do. I do in fact 
have a number of friends who are quite free and experimental about the 
issue,  though they bare with my dislike.


As you said in another reply though, things would be very boring if we all 
liked the same thing.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Kitchen" 

To: "dark" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Adult games



Hi Dark,

Yeah, back when I could see to play video games and I was shooting down 
aliens they sure didn't look like anything recognizable.  That of course 
was Space Invaders on the Atari 2600.


Sorry to hear that you don't care for sexual content in games.  I wish 
that there were more of them.  But on the sites that I visit the motto is 
safe, sane and consensual.  Which sounds right to me.


BFN

Jim

Practice safe eating: use condiments.

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Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results

2010-02-28 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
One guess would be that if I put the time and energy into making a game why 
not get some paybak for it?

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From: "Muhammed Deniz" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results


Then if they do it as a hobby, why do they sell the games?.
The best sight for games is, audio games!
Go to.
www.audiogames.net
msn:
muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk
Skype:
muhammed.deniz
- Original Message - 
From: "dark" 
To: "Charles Rivard" ; "Gamers Discussion list"

Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results


> Nice notion indeed Charlese,  afterall we players have to remember
> that most audio game devs do it as a hobby not a main job, and thus have
> their own preferences to considder as well as hours.
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Charles Rivard" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results
>
>
>> Know what I'd like to see, out of interest?  A survey similar to this
>> one,
>> only from the standpoint of game developers.  What games would you like
>> to
>> produce that were listed on this survey?  What speech scheme would be
>> easiest for you to work with when producing games?  That sort of stuff.
>> We've seen it from the gamer's side, I'd like to see it from the
>> manufacturing side, too.  I think it would be interesting.
>> ---
>> In God we trust!
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Thomas Ward" 
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:01 PM
>> Subject: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results
>>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>> I thought many of you, especially game developers, might be interested
>> to know what the audio games community had to say regarding the
>> marketing survey posted yesterday. The results are pretty interesting,
>> and gives a good idea of where gamer's interests are as well as what
>> hardware and software they have. Here is the early results of the
>> survey thus far.
>>
>> Age:
>>
>> The youngest person polled was 11-years old and the oldest member was
>> 55-years old. The average age of our target market is between 18 and
>> 31.
>>
>> Operating Systems:
>>
>> The number one operating system prefered by our target market is
>> Windows XP followed by Windows Vista. The least amount of votes was
>> for Mac OS.
>> Although, nearly everyone surveyed liked the idea of games being
>> created for Mac or Linux using Cider or Cedega as long as they got the
>> same features as on Windows, but most prefered to stick with Windows
>> XP themselves.
>>
>> Input Devices:
>>
>> The most popular input device is the keyboard with a few requesting
>> better joystick support. Nearly everyone polled felt that adding a
>> joystick with force feedback support would be a good selling point for
>> the game, and something they'd like to see done. Especially, in the
>> case of a racing game or flight game where force feedback enabled
>> stearing wheels and flightsticks adds extra realism for the game.
>>
>> Speech Output:
>>
>> Regarding speech out put the survey was split pretty equally between
>> those that wanted prerecorded speech and those who would rather have
>> Sapi support. All of those in favor of prerecorded speech mentioned
>> they'd like to see more human voices, voice acting, etc rather than
>> just prerecorded clips of TTS voices. Those in favor of Sapi were less
>> concerned about speech quality and were in favor of the ability to
>> select a voice, speed, volume, and customize the voice using their
>> favorite Sapi speech engine/voice.  A couple were in favor of using
>> their screen reader instead, but weren't enough to really consider
>> that an option compared to the other two alternatives.
>>
>> Game Genres:
>>
>> The number one response to wwhich type of game people liked to play
>> was all of the above which included: arcade, side-scroller, first
>> person, sports, and text adventure. Several expressed an interest in
>> arcade games. Many also expressed an interest in side-scrollers, and
>> wanted to see more games like Mysteries of the Ancients. A few
>> specifically mentioned an interest in first person as well, but not as
>> many as the other two catagories.
>>
>> Conclusion:
>>
>> So far what the survey results show is that a commercial developers
>> largest market is users running Windows XP, between the ages of 18 and
>> 31, and they would like to see features such as force feedback that
>> are really only supported through DirectX. Many would like to have
>> Sapi support so they can have control over the speech settings, and
>> others want more realistic human voices if it is possible. As far as
>> any specific genre of game any type of game will do, will find a
>> market, but arcade games and side-scrollers seam to have the most
>> specific interest at the moment.
>> On behalf of USA Games Interactive

Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread dark
Agreed Ron, I've only once bypassed a battle and gone back, and that was 
against some truly evil quest orcs on the 5th floor,  certainly not 
against the drake or the goblin king.


To prove how tough said orcs were,  I actually couldn't defeat them 
until i'd got to floor 12, even though I had a go after defeating the Goblin 
king, and after defeating the drake.



Other than that, I've always gone on a basis of kill everything on current 
floor, then move on, drake included.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "Ron Schamerhorn" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



Hi

 I'll agree, I've beaten the Drake many times and with various combos of
races and jobs.  Most recently I had the Drake grappled by my ogre brawler
which made for some easy pickings.  I dislike some views of oh you have to
do it this way.  Also I've never went past the Drake for more XP and came
back.  I've always taken it out on the way down.  It's a battle you can 
win,

though not always an easy one.

Ron
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From: "dark" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake Sean.

I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins,
bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.

The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and
paladin.

there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use 
scrolls

strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't just try
using the same move constantly!

(I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and 
one

to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "shaun everiss" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



no not the drake.
Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality
with int and other increases.
scroles work on him to.
The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if you
are a ogar.
you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs at
level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers
would work.
the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.

I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
maybe.
At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
ground to fight the Drake.

As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?

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Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results

2010-02-28 Thread dark
To pay for hosting, sound libraries and the innumerable things needed to 
actually produce games, and  most of all, to compensate them for their 
time, effort and hard work!


Saying "well it's a hobby so you shouldn't be paid" would be like saying to 
J.k. rowling "well you wanted to write the harry potter books, therefore you 
shouldn't be paid!"


Just because something is a creative enterprise, doesn't mean it didn't take 
time trouble and effort, and, to not acknolidge that is down right selfish.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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From: "Muhammed Deniz" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results



Then if they do it as a hobby, why do they sell the games?.
The best sight for games is, audio games!
Go to.
www.audiogames.net
msn:
muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk
Skype:
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From: "dark" 
To: "Charles Rivard" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results


Nice notion indeed Charlese,  afterall we players have to remember 
that most audio game devs do it as a hobby not a main job, and thus have 
their own preferences to considder as well as hours.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:50 AM
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Know what I'd like to see, out of interest?  A survey similar to this 
one,
only from the standpoint of game developers.  What games would you like 
to

produce that were listed on this survey?  What speech scheme would be
easiest for you to work with when producing games?  That sort of stuff.
We've seen it from the gamer's side, I'd like to see it from the
manufacturing side, too.  I think it would be interesting.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:01 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results


Hello everyone,
I thought many of you, especially game developers, might be interested
to know what the audio games community had to say regarding the
marketing survey posted yesterday. The results are pretty interesting,
and gives a good idea of where gamer's interests are as well as what
hardware and software they have. Here is the early results of the
survey thus far.

Age:

The youngest person polled was 11-years old and the oldest member was
55-years old. The average age of our target market is between 18 and
31.

Operating Systems:

The number one operating system prefered by our target market is
Windows XP followed by Windows Vista. The least amount of votes was
for Mac OS.
Although, nearly everyone surveyed liked the idea of games being
created for Mac or Linux using Cider or Cedega as long as they got the
same features as on Windows, but most prefered to stick with Windows
XP themselves.

Input Devices:

The most popular input device is the keyboard with a few requesting
better joystick support. Nearly everyone polled felt that adding a
joystick with force feedback support would be a good selling point for
the game, and something they'd like to see done. Especially, in the
case of a racing game or flight game where force feedback enabled
stearing wheels and flightsticks adds extra realism for the game.

Speech Output:

Regarding speech out put the survey was split pretty equally between
those that wanted prerecorded speech and those who would rather have
Sapi support. All of those in favor of prerecorded speech mentioned
they'd like to see more human voices, voice acting, etc rather than
just prerecorded clips of TTS voices. Those in favor of Sapi were less
concerned about speech quality and were in favor of the ability to
select a voice, speed, volume, and customize the voice using their
favorite Sapi speech engine/voice.  A couple were in favor of using
their screen reader instead, but weren't enough to really consider
that an option compared to the other two alternatives.

Game Genres:

The number one response to wwhich type of game people liked to play
was all of the above which included: arcade, side-scroller, first
person, sports, and text adventure. Several expressed an interest in
arcade games. Many also expressed an interest in side-scrollers, and
wanted to see more games like Mysteries of the Ancients. A few
specifically mentioned an interest in first person as well, but not as
many as the other two catagories.

Conclusion:

So far what the survey results show is that a commercial developers
largest market is users running Windows XP, between the ages of 18 and
31, and they would like to see features such as force feedback that
are really only supported through DirectX. Many would like to have
Sapi support so they can have control over the speech settings, and
others want more realistic human voices if it is possible. As far as
any specific genre o

Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Hayden Presley
I have discovered something. I really, really, really really hate those
hobgoblins! 
Best Regards,
Hayden

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:24 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

Agreed Ron, I've only once bypassed a battle and gone back, and that was 
against some truly evil quest orcs on the 5th floor,  certainly not 
against the drake or the goblin king.

To prove how tough said orcs were,  I actually couldn't defeat them 
until i'd got to floor 12, even though I had a go after defeating the Goblin

king, and after defeating the drake.


Other than that, I've always gone on a basis of kill everything on current 
floor, then move on, drake included.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


> Hi
>
>  I'll agree, I've beaten the Drake many times and with various combos of
> races and jobs.  Most recently I had the Drake grappled by my ogre brawler
> which made for some easy pickings.  I dislike some views of oh you have to
> do it this way.  Also I've never went past the Drake for more XP and came
> back.  I've always taken it out on the way down.  It's a battle you can 
> win,
> though not always an easy one.
>
> Ron
> - Original Message - 
> From: "dark" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
>
> I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake Sean.
>
> I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins,
> bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.
>
> The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and
> paladin.
>
> there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use 
> scrolls
> strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't just try
> using the same move constantly!
>
> (I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and 
> one
> to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "shaun everiss" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
>
>> no not the drake.
>> Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
>> its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality
>> with int and other increases.
>> scroles work on him to.
>> The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if you
>> are a ogar.
>> you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
>> one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
>> grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs at
>> level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
>> I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers
>> would work.
>> the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.
>>
>> I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
>> maybe.
>> At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
>>>the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
>>>I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.
>>>
>>>Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
>>>sword and the best armour I could find for her.
>>>Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
>>>staff and light armour/cloathing.
>>>Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
>>>legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
>>>don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
>>>and basically get chopped up in the process.
>>>Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
>>>Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
>>>was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
>>>Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
>>>ground to fight the Drake.
>>>
>>>As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
>>>kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
>>>dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
>>>and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
>>>missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
>>>up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
>>>floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
>>>roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Hayden Presley
Hmmm...Personally I feel this is getting offtopic. Maybe I am not  a
moderator, but...
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Behalf Of Darren Harris
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

That's a difficult one to answer really. It's still in some places over here
in the UK considered a no go subject or something that people don't really
like to talk about. Which I think is silly. I mean ok from a child accessing
stuff like that ok I wouldn't want that for my child if I had 1 but equally
I don't think people should be closed minded about sex either. 

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Sent: 28 February 2010 12:52
To: Johnny Tai
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Adult games


Hi Johnny,

That's cool that the Japanese are less inhibited about sex than the U. S.
No wonder I have always had a thing for Japanese women.   I have
always heard that the Europeans are also less inhibited.  With nudity on
regular TV etc.  I wonder if computer games produced in those countries
reflect their less inhibited views about sex.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs

2010-02-28 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Dark,
What is the advantage of the assassin over the thief? Last time I tried that
job Ifound their techniques the same, if not very similar.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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The assassin is one of the extra jobs you get if you buy the game, along 
with barbarian, bard, paladin, brawler and monk.

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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs


>   Hello, someone mensioned the assassine. Is it a sinonim for the thief in

> the case of entombed? If not, how to make the assassin job available?
>   Thanks,
>  Milos Przic
> msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com
> skype: Milosh-hs
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Snowling" 
> To: "audyssey" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:25 AM
> Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs
>
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> Have tried the bard as one of my jobs that soothing song does some good 
>> stuff.
>>
>> Will try the ranger healer on my next attempt.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Dark,
Good strategy...butyou never seem to get any more  than one extra character
by floor 6, which is the fartherest I have yet  descended. I must say I have
grown to appreciate the increased challenge, in the Alpha all you really had
todo was become an Oger fighter and try once or twice to defeat the Drake
and that was all. Now you have to...experiment.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Behalf Of dark
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:55 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake Sean.

I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins, 
bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.

The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and 
paladin.

there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use scrolls 
strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't just try 
using the same move constantly!

(I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and one 
to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "shaun everiss" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


> no not the drake.
> Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
> its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality 
> with int and other increases.
> scroles work on him to.
> The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if you 
> are a ogar.
> you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
> one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
> grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs at 
> level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
> I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers 
> would work.
> the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.
>
> I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
> maybe.
> At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:
>>Hi everyone,
>>I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
>>the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
>>I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.
>>
>>Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
>>sword and the best armour I could find for her.
>>Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
>>staff and light armour/cloathing.
>>Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
>>legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
>>don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
>>and basically get chopped up in the process.
>>Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
>>Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
>>was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
>>Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
>>ground to fight the Drake.
>>
>>As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
>>kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
>>dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
>>and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
>>missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
>>up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
>>floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
>>roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs

2010-02-28 Thread dark
The thief gets the unlock skill, and \can only level sneak attas far as 
three. the assassin gets crytical hits (one of the most powerful skills 
imho), and can level sneak attack to five, pluss they get duel wield like a 
fighter and indeed the assassinate skill which can be deadly in the right 
circumstances.


Actually thinking about it, unless you've got an adventurer in the party and 
can absolutely guarantee coming across secret areas and locked chests, the 
thief really isn't much good really,  in fact I'd say on the hole there 
are lots more useful jobs than just having the unlock skill. Imho the thief 
probably needs some extras to catch up.


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To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs



Hi Dark,
What is the advantage of the assassin over the thief? Last time I tried 
that

job Ifound their techniques the same, if not very similar.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs

The assassin is one of the extra jobs you get if you buy the game, along
with barbarian, bard, paladin, brawler and monk.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs


  Hello, someone mensioned the assassine. Is it a sinonim for the thief 
in



the case of entombed? If not, how to make the assassin job available?
  Thanks,
 Milos Przic
msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com
skype: Milosh-hs
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To: "audyssey" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:25 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs



Hi all.

Have tried the bard as one of my jobs that soothing song does some good
stuff.

Will try the ranger healer on my next attempt.



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Re: [Audyssey] entopmbed jobs

2010-02-28 Thread Hayden Presley
Actually, I sent that particular spoilert to the list yesterday.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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It is one of the unlockable jobs in either the demo or full version.

Let me know if you want a spoiler.

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Subject: [Audyssey] entopmbed jobs


> Hi.
>
> Is the druid a job that appears later within the game or can it be played 
> from the start?
>
> Must admit I am glad I purchased it but looking forward to the bugs being 
> fixed.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
If you think those are nasty just wait untill a floor or two down. *evil 
chuckle*
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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


I have discovered something. I really, really, really really hate those
hobgoblins! 
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

Agreed Ron, I've only once bypassed a battle and gone back, and that was
against some truly evil quest orcs on the 5th floor,  certainly not
against the drake or the goblin king.

To prove how tough said orcs were,  I actually couldn't defeat them
until i'd got to floor 12, even though I had a go after defeating the Goblin

king, and after defeating the drake.


Other than that, I've always gone on a basis of kill everything on current
floor, then move on, drake included.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


> Hi
>
>  I'll agree, I've beaten the Drake many times and with various combos of
> races and jobs.  Most recently I had the Drake grappled by my ogre brawler
> which made for some easy pickings.  I dislike some views of oh you have to
> do it this way.  Also I've never went past the Drake for more XP and came
> back.  I've always taken it out on the way down.  It's a battle you can
> win,
> though not always an easy one.
>
> Ron
> - Original Message - 
> From: "dark" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
>
> I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake Sean.
>
> I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins,
> bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.
>
> The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and
> paladin.
>
> there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use
> scrolls
> strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't just try
> using the same move constantly!
>
> (I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and
> one
> to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "shaun everiss" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
>
>> no not the drake.
>> Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
>> its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality
>> with int and other increases.
>> scroles work on him to.
>> The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if you
>> are a ogar.
>> you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
>> one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
>> grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs at
>> level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
>> I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers
>> would work.
>> the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.
>>
>> I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
>> maybe.
>> At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
>>>the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
>>>I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.
>>>
>>>Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
>>>sword and the best armour I could find for her.
>>>Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
>>>staff and light armour/cloathing.
>>>Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
>>>legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
>>>don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
>>>and basically get chopped up in the process.
>>>Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
>>>Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
>>>was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
>>>Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
>>>ground to fight the Drake.
>>>
>>>As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
>>>kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
>>>dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
>>>and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
>>>missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
>>>up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it ou

Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread dark
You should rescue two more characters, one on the second and one on the 
sixth floor. If your decending  so quick your missing those, your probably 
not levelled up high enough to take on the drake anyway, sinse the levels 
and xp system in the game has been carefully balanced out on the basis of 
exploring the entire floor before going down.


hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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From: "Hayden Presley" 

To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



Hi Dark,
Good strategy...butyou never seem to get any more  than one extra 
character
by floor 6, which is the fartherest I have yet  descended. I must say I 
have
grown to appreciate the increased challenge, in the Alpha all you really 
had

todo was become an Oger fighter and try once or twice to defeat the Drake
and that was all. Now you have to...experiment.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Behalf Of dark
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:55 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake Sean.

I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins,
bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.

The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and
paladin.

there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use 
scrolls

strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't just try
using the same move constantly!

(I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and 
one

to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "shaun everiss" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



no not the drake.
Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality
with int and other increases.
scroles work on him to.
The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if you
are a ogar.
you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs at
level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers
would work.
the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.

I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
maybe.
At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
ground to fight the Drake.

As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?

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Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs

2010-02-28 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Milos,
It's available in the demo and full versions by default, I believe. There is
nothing you have to do to get it.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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   Hello, someone mensioned the assassine. Is it a sinonim for the thief in 
the case of entombed? If not, how to make the assassin job available?
   Thanks,
  Milos Przic
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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:25 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs


> Hi all.
>
> Have tried the bard as one of my jobs that soothing song does some good 
> stuff.
>
> Will try the ranger healer on my next attempt.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs

2010-02-28 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi John,
Yeah, I lovethe Bard. However, Ihave found it is more profitable if I have a
Monk as my primary job as I find that as a Bard I tend to suck up all of my
abilities such as Snap Limb and Take Down very quickly.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Hi all.

Have tried the bard as one of my jobs that soothing song does some good 
stuff.

Will try the ranger healer on my next attempt.



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Re: [Audyssey] entopmbed jobs

2010-02-28 Thread Milos Przic

  Yes thanks, give me the spoiler. :)
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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:37 PM
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It is one of the unlockable jobs in either the demo or full version.

Let me know if you want a spoiler.

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Subject: [Audyssey] entopmbed jobs



Hi.

Is the druid a job that appears later within the game or can it be played 
from the start?


Must admit I am glad I purchased it but looking forward to the bugs being 
fixed.



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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Hayden Presley
Ah, There is always one on both of those? Great, as for the one on the sixth
floor I haven't gotten to that one yet. Does it matter if you go to the
Abandoned Mine Works are the Goblin Stronghold?
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

You should rescue two more characters, one on the second and one on the 
sixth floor. If your decending  so quick your missing those, your probably 
not levelled up high enough to take on the drake anyway, sinse the levels 
and xp system in the game has been carefully balanced out on the basis of 
exploring the entire floor before going down.

hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


> Hi Dark,
> Good strategy...butyou never seem to get any more  than one extra 
> character
> by floor 6, which is the fartherest I have yet  descended. I must say I 
> have
> grown to appreciate the increased challenge, in the Alpha all you really 
> had
> todo was become an Oger fighter and try once or twice to defeat the Drake
> and that was all. Now you have to...experiment.
> Best Regards,
> Hayden
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
> Behalf Of dark
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:55 AM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
> I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake Sean.
>
> I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins,
> bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.
>
> The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and
> paladin.
>
> there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use 
> scrolls
> strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't just try
> using the same move constantly!
>
> (I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and 
> one
> to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "shaun everiss" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
>
>> no not the drake.
>> Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
>> its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality
>> with int and other increases.
>> scroles work on him to.
>> The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if you
>> are a ogar.
>> you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
>> one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
>> grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs at
>> level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
>> I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers
>> would work.
>> the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.
>>
>> I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
>> maybe.
>> At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
>>>the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
>>>I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.
>>>
>>>Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
>>>sword and the best armour I could find for her.
>>>Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
>>>staff and light armour/cloathing.
>>>Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
>>>legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
>>>don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
>>>and basically get chopped up in the process.
>>>Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
>>>Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
>>>was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
>>>Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
>>>ground to fight the Drake.
>>>
>>>As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
>>>kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
>>>dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
>>>and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
>>>missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
>>>up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
>>>floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
>>>roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?
>>>
>>>---
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>>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
>>>gamers-un

Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Ron,
Real confidence booster you have there. 
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

If you think those are nasty just wait untill a floor or two down. *evil 
chuckle*
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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


I have discovered something. I really, really, really really hate those
hobgoblins! 
Best Regards,
Hayden

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:24 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

Agreed Ron, I've only once bypassed a battle and gone back, and that was
against some truly evil quest orcs on the 5th floor,  certainly not
against the drake or the goblin king.

To prove how tough said orcs were,  I actually couldn't defeat them
until i'd got to floor 12, even though I had a go after defeating the Goblin

king, and after defeating the drake.


Other than that, I've always gone on a basis of kill everything on current
floor, then move on, drake included.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Schamerhorn" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


> Hi
>
>  I'll agree, I've beaten the Drake many times and with various combos of
> races and jobs.  Most recently I had the Drake grappled by my ogre brawler
> which made for some easy pickings.  I dislike some views of oh you have to
> do it this way.  Also I've never went past the Drake for more XP and came
> back.  I've always taken it out on the way down.  It's a battle you can
> win,
> though not always an easy one.
>
> Ron
> - Original Message - 
> From: "dark" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
>
> I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake Sean.
>
> I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins,
> bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.
>
> The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and
> paladin.
>
> there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use
> scrolls
> strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't just try
> using the same move constantly!
>
> (I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and
> one
> to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "shaun everiss" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
>
>> no not the drake.
>> Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
>> its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality
>> with int and other increases.
>> scroles work on him to.
>> The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if you
>> are a ogar.
>> you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
>> one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
>> grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs at
>> level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
>> I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers
>> would work.
>> the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.
>>
>> I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
>> maybe.
>> At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
>>>the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
>>>I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.
>>>
>>>Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
>>>sword and the best armour I could find for her.
>>>Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
>>>staff and light armour/cloathing.
>>>Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
>>>legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
>>>don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
>>>and basically get chopped up in the process.
>>>Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
>>>Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
>>>was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
>>>Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
>>>ground to fight the Drake.
>>>
>>>As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
>>>kick the crap out of the Drake, b

Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Milos Przic
  And yes, the paladin? Is it also an unlockable? I am not a spoiler-guy, 
but I don't have the time to explore so much although I am very 
interested...

 Milos Przic
msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com
skype: Milosh-hs
- Original Message - 
From: "dark" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake Sean.

I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins, 
bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.


The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and 
paladin.


there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use 
scrolls strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't 
just try using the same move constantly!


(I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and 
one to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "shaun everiss" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



no not the drake.
Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality 
with int and other increases.

scroles work on him to.
The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if you 
are a ogar.

you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs at 
level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers 
would work.

the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.

I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
maybe.
At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
ground to fight the Drake.

As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?

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Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs

2010-02-28 Thread Milos Przic
  Oh I really appologize for replying early. I don't do it usually and am 
strictly against it, but when a thing interests me then I start doing it 
like quite now...

 Milos Przic
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skype: Milosh-hs
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From: "dark" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs


The assassin is one of the extra jobs you get if you buy the game, along 
with barbarian, bard, paladin, brawler and monk.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "Milos Przic" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs


  Hello, someone mensioned the assassine. Is it a sinonim for the thief 
in the case of entombed? If not, how to make the assassin job available?

  Thanks,
 Milos Przic
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skype: Milosh-hs
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From: "John Snowling" 

To: "audyssey" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:25 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs



Hi all.

Have tried the bard as one of my jobs that soothing song does some good 
stuff.


Will try the ranger healer on my next attempt.



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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
The paladin is already available if you have the full version. Otherwise you
simply don't have it.
Best Regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Milos Przic
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:21 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

   And yes, the paladin? Is it also an unlockable? I am not a spoiler-guy, 
but I don't have the time to explore so much although I am very 
interested...
  Milos Przic
msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com
skype: Milosh-hs
- Original Message - 
From: "dark" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


> I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake Sean.
>
> I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins, 
> bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.
>
> The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and 
> paladin.
>
> there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use 
> scrolls strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't 
> just try using the same move constantly!
>
> (I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and 
> one to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "shaun everiss" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
>
>> no not the drake.
>> Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
>> its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality 
>> with int and other increases.
>> scroles work on him to.
>> The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if you

>> are a ogar.
>> you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
>> one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
>> grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs at

>> level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
>> I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers 
>> would work.
>> the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.
>>
>> I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
>> maybe.
>> At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
>>>the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
>>>I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.
>>>
>>>Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
>>>sword and the best armour I could find for her.
>>>Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
>>>staff and light armour/cloathing.
>>>Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
>>>legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
>>>don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
>>>and basically get chopped up in the process.
>>>Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
>>>Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
>>>was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
>>>Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
>>>ground to fight the Drake.
>>>
>>>As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
>>>kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
>>>dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
>>>and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
>>>missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
>>>up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
>>>floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
>>>roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
Hi Hayden

  It seems to me that if your group makes it past the drake then you are in 
good shape.  My present game which I've reloaded numerous times has troubles 
with what's found on the 25th floor.  I'f I were only paid by the hour of 
playing.  I'd be rich!

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From: "Hayden Presley" 
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


Hi Ron,
Real confidence booster you have there. 
Best Regards,
Hayden

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Ron Schamerhorn
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:16 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

If you think those are nasty just wait untill a floor or two down. *evil
chuckle*
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From: "Hayden Presley" 
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


I have discovered something. I really, really, really really hate those
hobgoblins! 
Best Regards,
Hayden

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:24 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

Agreed Ron, I've only once bypassed a battle and gone back, and that was
against some truly evil quest orcs on the 5th floor,  certainly not
against the drake or the goblin king.

To prove how tough said orcs were,  I actually couldn't defeat them
until i'd got to floor 12, even though I had a go after defeating the Goblin

king, and after defeating the drake.


Other than that, I've always gone on a basis of kill everything on current
floor, then move on, drake included.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "Ron Schamerhorn" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


> Hi
>
>  I'll agree, I've beaten the Drake many times and with various combos of
> races and jobs.  Most recently I had the Drake grappled by my ogre brawler
> which made for some easy pickings.  I dislike some views of oh you have to
> do it this way.  Also I've never went past the Drake for more XP and came
> back.  I've always taken it out on the way down.  It's a battle you can
> win,
> though not always an easy one.
>
> Ron
> - Original Message - 
> From: "dark" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
>
> I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake Sean.
>
> I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins,
> bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.
>
> The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and
> paladin.
>
> there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use
> scrolls
> strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't just try
> using the same move constantly!
>
> (I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and
> one
> to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "shaun everiss" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
>
>> no not the drake.
>> Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
>> its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality
>> with int and other increases.
>> scroles work on him to.
>> The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if you
>> are a ogar.
>> you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
>> one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
>> grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs at
>> level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
>> I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers
>> would work.
>> the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.
>>
>> I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
>> maybe.
>> At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
>>>the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
>>>I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.
>>>
>>>Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
>>>sword and the best armour I could find for her.
>>>Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
>>>staff and light armour/cloathing.
>>>Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
>>>legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
>>>don't want to mess with her because your lik

Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
Hi Hayden

  You should find the forth party member on either floor.

- Original Message - 
From: "Hayden Presley" 
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


Ah, There is always one on both of those? Great, as for the one on the sixth
floor I haven't gotten to that one yet. Does it matter if you go to the
Abandoned Mine Works are the Goblin Stronghold?
Best Regards,
Hayden

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:16 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

You should rescue two more characters, one on the second and one on the
sixth floor. If your decending  so quick your missing those, your probably
not levelled up high enough to take on the drake anyway, sinse the levels
and xp system in the game has been carefully balanced out on the basis of
exploring the entire floor before going down.

hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Hayden Presley" 
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


> Hi Dark,
> Good strategy...butyou never seem to get any more  than one extra
> character
> by floor 6, which is the fartherest I have yet  descended. I must say I
> have
> grown to appreciate the increased challenge, in the Alpha all you really
> had
> todo was become an Oger fighter and try once or twice to defeat the Drake
> and that was all. Now you have to...experiment.
> Best Regards,
> Hayden
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
> Behalf Of dark
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:55 AM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
> I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake Sean.
>
> I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins,
> bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.
>
> The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and
> paladin.
>
> there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use
> scrolls
> strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't just try
> using the same move constantly!
>
> (I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and
> one
> to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "shaun everiss" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
>
>> no not the drake.
>> Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
>> its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality
>> with int and other increases.
>> scroles work on him to.
>> The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if you
>> are a ogar.
>> you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
>> one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
>> grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs at
>> level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
>> I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers
>> would work.
>> the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.
>>
>> I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
>> maybe.
>> At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
>>>the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
>>>I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.
>>>
>>>Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
>>>sword and the best armour I could find for her.
>>>Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
>>>staff and light armour/cloathing.
>>>Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
>>>legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
>>>don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
>>>and basically get chopped up in the process.
>>>Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
>>>Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
>>>was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
>>>Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
>>>ground to fight the Drake.
>>>
>>>As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
>>>kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
>>>dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
>>>and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
>>>missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
>>>up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it

Re: [Audyssey] another three d velocity record

2010-02-28 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Muhammed,
Not bad, I just finished a race on that  same track. My record was 3 minutes
and 25  seconds, and could've been better if I had not gone crazy in the
turns.
Best Regards,
hayden

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Subject: [Audyssey] another three d velocity record

Hi guys,
Another record of three d velocity. This time it was the long track, and I
ended it in 4 min 26 or 20 seck.
I played both of the modes with the keyboard, and I also won the death
match.
But in the racing mode, it took a long time for the other racers to come.
I came in first, racer 2 got second, and racer 1 got surved.
This was on the long track. Also in the death match mode, here is what
happened.
I was trying to kill the second fighter, and I couldn't. You know why?.
Because fighter 1 mannaged to kill him with a crues missal, and some other
missals.
But I didn't get a chance with the gun.
I tried that on the second fighter, and stuff were good and bad.
I  used my 5 missals, but only 1 hit.
Oh crap! he fired a crues missal at me, but I dodged it. I fired my lts and
went up to dodg, and I came down with my crues missal, and his gon!
So in short, fighter 1, is a dead fighter for now!
Or maybe not in the mission mode, haha!

The best sight for games is, audio games!
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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread playful-puppy
you know Jim, I also wondered the same thing, and why don't we don't allow 
that in the u. s.?? cheee, looks like some countries has thought ahead of 
us.
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To: "Johnny Tai" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Adult games



Hi Johnny,

That's cool that the Japanese are less inhibited about sex than the U. S. 
No wonder I have always had a thing for Japanese women.   I have 
always heard that the Europeans are also less inhibited.  With nudity on 
regular TV etc.  I wonder if computer games produced in those countries 
reflect their less inhibited views about sex.


BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs

2010-02-28 Thread Bryan Peterson
It's the full version actually, but other than that you're right in that you 
don't unlock it.

Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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From: "Hayden Presley" 

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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs



Hi Milos,
It's available in the demo and full versions by default, I believe. There 
is

nothing you have to do to get it.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Behalf Of Milos Przic
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs

  Hello, someone mensioned the assassine. Is it a sinonim for the thief in
the case of entombed? If not, how to make the assassin job available?
  Thanks,
 Milos Przic
msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com
skype: Milosh-hs
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From: "John Snowling" 

To: "audyssey" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:25 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs



Hi all.

Have tried the bard as one of my jobs that soothing song does some good
stuff.

Will try the ranger healer on my next attempt.



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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Bryan Peterson

Actually it's the fifth floor, not the sixth.
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Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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From: "Hayden Presley" 

To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


Ah, There is always one on both of those? Great, as for the one on the 
sixth

floor I haven't gotten to that one yet. Does it matter if you go to the
Abandoned Mine Works are the Goblin Stronghold?
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Behalf Of dark
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

You should rescue two more characters, one on the second and one on the
sixth floor. If your decending  so quick your missing those, your probably
not levelled up high enough to take on the drake anyway, sinse the levels
and xp system in the game has been carefully balanced out on the basis of
exploring the entire floor before going down.

hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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From: "Hayden Presley" 

To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



Hi Dark,
Good strategy...butyou never seem to get any more  than one extra
character
by floor 6, which is the fartherest I have yet  descended. I must say I
have
grown to appreciate the increased challenge, in the Alpha all you really
had
todo was become an Oger fighter and try once or twice to defeat the Drake
and that was all. Now you have to...experiment.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Behalf Of dark
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake 
Sean.


I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins,
bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.

The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and
paladin.

there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use
scrolls
strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't just try
using the same move constantly!

(I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and
one
to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "shaun everiss" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



no not the drake.
Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality
with int and other increases.
scroles work on him to.
The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if 
you

are a ogar.
you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs 
at

level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers
would work.
the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.

I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
maybe.
At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
ground to fight the Drake.

As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
roasted to death. Any sugge

Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Bryan Peterson
Nope, the Paladin's not an unlockable, but like the Assassin it isn't in the 
demo. Personally I'm not that impressed with the Paladin's abilities.

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From: "Milos Przic" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


  And yes, the paladin? Is it also an unlockable? I am not a spoiler-guy, 
but I don't have the time to explore so much although I am very 
interested...

 Milos Przic
msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com
skype: Milosh-hs
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From: "dark" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake 
Sean.


I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins, 
bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.


The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and 
paladin.


there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use 
scrolls strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't 
just try using the same move constantly!


(I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and 
one to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "shaun everiss" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



no not the drake.
Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality 
with int and other increases.

scroles work on him to.
The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if 
you are a ogar.

you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs 
at level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers 
would work.

the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.

I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
maybe.
At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
ground to fight the Drake.

As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?

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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread shaun everiss
yeah.
I havn't found all the ways yet.
I can do it eventually with a drewid if I get the right items with the extra 
points and int etc.
over that though I need the full version which I have not got right now.
At 01:54 a.m. 1/03/2010, you wrote:
>I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake Sean.
>
>I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins, bards, 
>rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.
>
>The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and paladin.
>
>there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use scrolls 
>strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't just try using 
>the same move constantly!
>
>(I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and one to 
>pass out the scrolls and healing potions).
>
>Beware the grue!
>
>Dark.
>- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" 
>To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
>
>>no not the drake.
>>Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
>>its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality with 
>>int and other increases.
>>scroles work on him to.
>>The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if you are 
>>a ogar.
>>you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
>>one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
>>grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs at 
>>level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
>>I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers would 
>>work.
>>the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.
>>
>>I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
>>maybe.
>>At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
>>>the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
>>>I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.
>>>
>>>Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
>>>sword and the best armour I could find for her.
>>>Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
>>>staff and light armour/cloathing.
>>>Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
>>>legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
>>>don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
>>>and basically get chopped up in the process.
>>>Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
>>>Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
>>>was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
>>>Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
>>>ground to fight the Drake.
>>>
>>>As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
>>>kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
>>>dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
>>>and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
>>>missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
>>>up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
>>>floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
>>>roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?
>>>
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[Audyssey] buying entombed

2010-02-28 Thread Josh
Hi

letssay i have some friends who have the entombed game and I want to buy it for 
them. is this possible or is the game set up so I can only buy it for myself? 

Josh

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Johnny Tai
Definite does, look at the famed King of Fighters and Fatal Fury video 
games, not to mention the one that's made just for that breast-bouncing 
purpose: Dead or Alive- to name a few of the games that show erroticism.

The one top game in the past years, God of War, has several sex scenes also.
Also, Japanese came up with the concept of adult cartoons, now called 
Hentai.
Before I go any further and get people thinking I'm some kind of sex fiend, 
I'll stop!


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Adult games



Hi Johnny,

That's cool that the Japanese are less inhibited about sex than the U. S. 
No wonder I have always had a thing for Japanese women.   I have 
always heard that the Europeans are also less inhibited.  With nudity on 
regular TV etc.  I wonder if computer games produced in those countries 
reflect their less inhibited views about sex.


BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Johnny Tai

And you came up with puppy1! Lol. Still love that game!
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Hi Muhammed,

Well that is your opinion.  Personally I do not like violence even in a 
game.  I am anti war, anti violence etc.  I would much more like to be 
doing things that feel good or are fun or are at least more productive 
than killing and dyeing.  And I believe that there are games that are fast 
paced, exciting and full of action without all of the killing and dyeing. 
And I have been playing computer and or video games since the nineteen 
seventies.  So you know, I am probably not going to change my opinion now. 



BFN

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Hi Jim,
Onnestly. Its much more fun to play action games. I meen sports games are 
also fun, but you could enjoy action games.
I could remember when the first time that I was playing a ranger in 
entombed, I was very excited with the molty shot skill. I use to bash all 
enemies with it, and I was jumping when I saw it!.
I was at bed after that, and the next day. It was all to well, when I met 
my new enemie. The gardaiun!.
It was very hard to kill him, and he was keep on winning. Luckly, I played 
as a ranger healer in one of my saved games, but once I won it.

The healer was my secondary job, but I got killed by awolf.
When I started a new game, It was all fine. Even the drake was nothing for 
me!


Best of luck,
Muhammed.


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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim,
Agreed. There really aren't that many adult accessible games, and it
would be nice to see more of them developed. When it comes to the
topic of sex I consider myself pretty open minded, and believe in the
safe, sane, and concentual motto. If somebody doesn't like the sexual
content in a certain game it is their choice not to play that type of
game. If they go for that kind of game then as long as the person is
of age, and treats it as a game then I have no problem with it.
Case in point. I remember my dad owning a game called Strip Poker. You
were given a list of girls you could play against, and once you
selected one you played poker until you got her completely naked.  As
you were playing the girls would throw in comments like, "I bet you
can't wait to get my panties off."
All things considered it is a pretty harmless game. It is not violent,
all of the girls looked like they were 18 and over, and it was fun.
Even though the game had an adult rating  it was a lot tamer than the
games with lots of blood, guts, and gore.


On 2/28/10, Jim Kitchen  wrote:
> Hi Dark,
>
> Yeah, back when I could see to play video games and I was shooting down
> aliens they sure didn't look like anything recognizable.  That of course was
> Space Invaders on the Atari 2600.
>
> Sorry to hear that you don't care for sexual content in games.  I wish that
> there were more of them.  But on the sites that I visit the motto is safe,
> sane and consensual.  Which sounds right to me.
>
> BFN
>
>  Jim
>
> Practice safe eating: use condiments.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim,
Well, a lot has to do with when and how we were raised. I know given
your age you lived through the counter culture revolution during the
1960's and 1970's when the hippies were protesting the war in Vietnam,
and preached peace, sex, love, and rock and roll. However, the
majority of our listers, including me,  were born after the counter
culture movement, and what hippy values we got were passed down by
parents if at all.
As for myself the first games I can remember playing were arcade games
like Demon Attack, SpaceInvaders, Asteroids, Atlantice, and stuff like
that. By the mid 1980's I had moved onto the Nintendo with games like
Castlevania, Double Dragon, Bad Dudes, Legend of Kage, and other
fighting games. By the mid 1990's I was playing games like Jedi
Knight, Tomb Raider, Soldier of Fortune, Mech Warrior, and so on.  So
it could be said I've always played violent action games without much
thought to weather or not they are right or wrong.
What I can say is that as a result I generally prefer an action game
with lots of fighting and combatinvolved. That's why a game like
Entombed will apeal to me but not to you. I'm not really bothered
about some of the gory details in the game when heads, arms, legs,
feet, hands, etc get chopped off and go flying accross the room. Some
times I laugh
at stuff like that. Especially, when one of my party members chop off
a goblin's arm, leg, or head and it goes flying accrosss the room.
However, I completely understand if people find that sort of thing too
violent, too gory, and discusting.

On 2/28/10, Jim Kitchen  wrote:
> Hi Muhammed,
>
> Well that is your opinion.  Personally I do not like violence even in a
> game.  I am anti war, anti violence etc.  I would much more like to be doing
> things that feel good or are fun or are at least more productive than
> killing and dyeing.  And I believe that there are games that are fast paced,
> exciting and full of action without all of the killing and dyeing.  And I
> have been playing computer and or video games since the nineteen seventies.
> So you know, I am probably not going to change my opinion now. 
>
> BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim,
That's certainly true for some places in Europe, but probably not all.
Some years ago I had a girl friend named Silvia who was from Germany.
When she visited the U.S. she found our society too inhibited
regarding sex. For example, over here we consider prostitution a
crime, but over in Germany, where she lived, it was completely legal
and nobody seamed to have a problem with it.
She also mentioned that she often when to the public swimming pool and
swam naked. Here in the U.S.A. If you when to the local Y.M.C.A. and
stripped down naked and jumped in the pool you would be halled off for
public indecency. Again I'm not sure why Americans have such a problem
with public nudity because if you have seen one naked man or woman
you've pretty much seen them all. We are all born with pretty much all
the same private parts attached.  What is so wrong about seeing what
is natural?
So, yeah, different countries and different cultures have their own
views about sex. Some are quite open about it, and others find the
entire topic of sex offensive. ven in the same country you will find a
mixture of open minded and closed minded individuals. I'm pretty open
about it, but my in-laws  treat the topic like something filthy and
dirty. That no self-respecting person wil bring sex up outside the bed
room which I find a bit too closed minded and inhibited.


On 2/28/10, Jim Kitchen  wrote:
> Hi Johnny,
>
> That's cool that the Japanese are less inhibited about sex than the U. S.
> No wonder I have always had a thing for Japanese women.   I have
> always heard that the Europeans are also less inhibited.  With nudity on
> regular TV etc.  I wonder if computer games produced in those countries
> reflect their less inhibited views about sex.
>
> BFN
>
>  Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] buying entombed

2010-02-28 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Josh,
Well you could of curse give your friends' email addresses they have used
for your account.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Hi

letssay i have some friends who have the entombed game and I want to buy it
for them. is this possible or is the game set up so I can only buy it for
myself? 

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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Hayden Presley
Nor am I, and then the Druid for me isn't all that either. Right now, I have
my main character, a mail human Monk  Bard, a mail wolf (my pet of course),
2 gnomes, one a Monk Healer, and the other a Fighter Necromancer, as well as
the skeleton of the Royal Goblin Shaman. The equipment you get from
defeating the Goblin king is always helpful as well.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:04 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

Nope, the Paladin's not an unlockable, but like the Assassin it isn't in the

demo. Personally I'm not that impressed with the Paladin's abilities.
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>   And yes, the paladin? Is it also an unlockable? I am not a spoiler-guy, 
> but I don't have the time to explore so much although I am very 
> interested...
>  Milos Przic
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "dark" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
>
>> I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake 
>> Sean.
>>
>> I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins, 
>> bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.
>>
>> The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and 
>> paladin.
>>
>> there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use 
>> scrolls strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't 
>> just try using the same move constantly!
>>
>> (I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and 
>> one to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).
>>
>> Beware the grue!
>>
>> Dark.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "shaun everiss" 
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>>
>>
>>> no not the drake.
>>> Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
>>> its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality

>>> with int and other increases.
>>> scroles work on him to.
>>> The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if 
>>> you are a ogar.
>>> you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
>>> one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
>>> grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs 
>>> at level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
>>> I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers 
>>> would work.
>>> the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.
>>>
>>> I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
>>> maybe.
>>> At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:
Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
ground to fight the Drake.

As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?

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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Bryan,
That's what I  thought, as I foudd the second gnome in my party on that
floor, and not the sixth.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:03 AM
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Actually it's the fifth floor, not the sixth.
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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


> Ah, There is always one on both of those? Great, as for the one on the 
> sixth
> floor I haven't gotten to that one yet. Does it matter if you go to the
> Abandoned Mine Works are the Goblin Stronghold?
> Best Regards,
> Hayden
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
> Behalf Of dark
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:16 AM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
> You should rescue two more characters, one on the second and one on the
> sixth floor. If your decending  so quick your missing those, your probably
> not levelled up high enough to take on the drake anyway, sinse the levels
> and xp system in the game has been carefully balanced out on the basis of
> exploring the entire floor before going down.
>
> hth.
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Hayden Presley" 
> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>
>
>> Hi Dark,
>> Good strategy...butyou never seem to get any more  than one extra
>> character
>> by floor 6, which is the fartherest I have yet  descended. I must say I
>> have
>> grown to appreciate the increased challenge, in the Alpha all you really
>> had
>> todo was become an Oger fighter and try once or twice to defeat the Drake
>> and that was all. Now you have to...experiment.
>> Best Regards,
>> Hayden
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
>> Behalf Of dark
>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:55 AM
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>>
>> I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake 
>> Sean.
>>
>> I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins,
>> bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.
>>
>> The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and
>> paladin.
>>
>> there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use
>> scrolls
>> strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't just try
>> using the same move constantly!
>>
>> (I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and
>> one
>> to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).
>>
>> Beware the grue!
>>
>> Dark.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "shaun everiss" 
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
>>
>>
>>> no not the drake.
>>> Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
>>> its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality
>>> with int and other increases.
>>> scroles work on him to.
>>> The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if 
>>> you
>>> are a ogar.
>>> you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
>>> one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
>>> grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs 
>>> at
>>> level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
>>> I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers
>>> would work.
>>> the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.
>>>
>>> I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
>>> maybe.
>>> At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:
Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is

Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Jobs

2010-02-28 Thread Hayden Presley
Oh? I thought that one was in the demo. Ah well...
Best Regards,
Hayden

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It's the full version actually, but other than that you're right in that you

don't unlock it.
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> Hi Milos,
> It's available in the demo and full versions by default, I believe. There 
> is
> nothing you have to do to get it.
> Best Regards,
> Hayden
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>   Hello, someone mensioned the assassine. Is it a sinonim for the thief in
> the case of entombed? If not, how to make the assassin job available?
>   Thanks,
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>> Have tried the bard as one of my jobs that soothing song does some good
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>> Will try the ranger healer on my next attempt.
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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim,
Well, I don't either, but I have a pretty good theory why that is. If
we consider that the U.S. is largely made up of Christians of one
denomination or another that's obviously going to reflect on the
public outlook on sex. Let's not forget in the 2000 and 2004 elections
most Republicans got elected by getting on the God, gays, and guns
compeign  platform. Afterwards we had very stupid discussions of
ammending the constitution to define mariage as a union between a man
and a woman. As though passing a law can stop homosexual couples from
having a relationship which it couldn't.
Personally, I feel what a couple, same sex or not, does in the bed
room is none of the government's business. The churches can mind their
own business, and stay out of peoples lives. They have no business
trying to tell everyone else what kinds of movies, games, etc people
should watch or play. However, they do have an incredible sway over
American politics and to some degree over public opinion.
In countries where Christianity is not the mainstream religion, such
as Japan, you find much more relaxed views of sex, and much more
sexual content. I know the Japanese have adult oriented cartoons and
games where sex is quite previlent.  Obviously, they don't have a
problem with that kind of content, but we certainly do here in the
U.S.


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> Hi Thomas,
>
> Yeah, I don't know why sex is so taboo for so many people in the U. S.  I
> have always thought that it was a beautiful thing.  Now games, movies etc
> that combine sex and violence really get me upset.  Some might say that is
> what spanker does, but as I mentioned the motto is safe, sane and
> consensual.
>
> BFN
>
>  Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
Hmmm...That's a good question. I know we had two different versions of
Leisure Suit Larry. We had an old MS Dos version and one for Windows
95.  I know for certain the Windows 95 version of Leisure Suit Lary
didn't work with Jaws at all. Don't know about the MS Dos version as I
wasn't blind when that version came out. I'm not sure if my dad even
has the floppy disk for the original version any more.

On 2/28/10, Jim Kitchen  wrote:
> Hi Jacob,
>
> That would be fun to play the interactive fiction version of leisure
> suit Larry as I do not believe that the original version was accessible at
> all.  I think that all of the text was graphical not real text.
>
> BFN
>
>  Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread David Chittenden

Hello Thomas and Jim,

The US adopted the Victorian morays back in the 18th century. Those 
particular morays connect very well with the conservative, puritanical, 
christian culture of the christian right. After all, how better to 
control people than through fear of sin?


You find something similar in China which claims no christian morays. 
When you look more deeply in to both cultures, it becomes apparent that 
it is all about power and control.


If I want my people to be more violent so they are more willing to fight 
in wars and police actions, I will encourage them to focus on violence 
so that they consider this to be the norm.


Also, I can better control people when I tell them who they can and 
cannot marry (which controls who they can and cannot be legally sexual 
with). When you do something which is illegal, you will tend to remain 
quiet about it and hold guilt about it. This makes you more easily 
controlled by those in power.


David Chittenden, MSc, CRC, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com



Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Jim,
That's certainly true for some places in Europe, but probably not all.
Some years ago I had a girl friend named Silvia who was from Germany.
When she visited the U.S. she found our society too inhibited
regarding sex. For example, over here we consider prostitution a
crime, but over in Germany, where she lived, it was completely legal
and nobody seamed to have a problem with it.
She also mentioned that she often when to the public swimming pool and
swam naked. Here in the U.S.A. If you when to the local Y.M.C.A. and
stripped down naked and jumped in the pool you would be halled off for
public indecency. Again I'm not sure why Americans have such a problem
with public nudity because if you have seen one naked man or woman
you've pretty much seen them all. We are all born with pretty much all
the same private parts attached.  What is so wrong about seeing what
is natural?
So, yeah, different countries and different cultures have their own
views about sex. Some are quite open about it, and others find the
entire topic of sex offensive. ven in the same country you will find a
mixture of open minded and closed minded individuals. I'm pretty open
about it, but my in-laws  treat the topic like something filthy and
dirty. That no self-respecting person wil bring sex up outside the bed
room which I find a bit too closed minded and inhibited.


On 2/28/10, Jim Kitchen  wrote:
  

Hi Johnny,

That's cool that the Japanese are less inhibited about sex than the U. S.
No wonder I have always had a thing for Japanese women.   I have
always heard that the Europeans are also less inhibited.  With nudity on
regular TV etc.  I wonder if computer games produced in those countries
reflect their less inhibited views about sex.

BFN

 Jim



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[Audyssey] star trek final conflict

2010-02-28 Thread Josh
Hi

are there any updates to star-trek final conflict that lets you use the 
deflector as a weapon? 
it would also be cool to have a first person shooter where you're trapped on a 
borg ship and you have to make your way out without being assimilated and get 
back to your ship. 

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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread Bryan Peterson
My favorite combination is the Fighter/Assassin. The FIghter can use plate 
armor (although I suppose the Assassin can also), but the Fighter also has 
the most Ability Points.

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Nor am I, and then the Druid for me isn't all that either. Right now, I 
have
my main character, a mail human Monk  Bard, a mail wolf (my pet of 
course),
2 gnomes, one a Monk Healer, and the other a Fighter Necromancer, as well 
as

the skeleton of the Royal Goblin Shaman. The equipment you get from
defeating the Goblin king is always helpful as well.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Nope, the Paladin's not an unlockable, but like the Assassin it isn't in 
the


demo. Personally I'm not that impressed with the Paladin's abilities.
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  And yes, the paladin? Is it also an unlockable? I am not a spoiler-guy,
but I don't have the time to explore so much although I am very
interested...
 Milos Przic
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I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake
Sean.

I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins,
bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.

The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and
paladin.

there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use
scrolls strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't
just try using the same move constantly!

(I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and
one to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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no not the drake.
Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever 
quality



with int and other increases.
scroles work on him to.
The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if
you are a ogar.
you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs
at level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers
would work.
the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.

I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
maybe.
At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
ground to fight the Drake.

As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Bryan Peterson
It's funny, but we were a bit more relaxded about things like that back in 
like the 70s or 80s, hence the Leisure Suit Larry games. As I said before my 
dad, brother and sister used to play those games all the time. I don't 
suppose my mom was too thrilled about it but they did it anyway. Nowadays if 
someone tried to release a Larry game they'd probably have fundamentalist 
Christians jumping down their throats just they way they do for things like 
Harry Potter and even Lord of the Rings and even, to some extent, the 
Chronicles of Narnia. I actually once had a neighbor tell me quite 
confidently that Aslan was the devil.

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Hi Jim,
Well, I don't either, but I have a pretty good theory why that is. If
we consider that the U.S. is largely made up of Christians of one
denomination or another that's obviously going to reflect on the
public outlook on sex. Let's not forget in the 2000 and 2004 elections
most Republicans got elected by getting on the God, gays, and guns
compeign  platform. Afterwards we had very stupid discussions of
ammending the constitution to define mariage as a union between a man
and a woman. As though passing a law can stop homosexual couples from
having a relationship which it couldn't.
Personally, I feel what a couple, same sex or not, does in the bed
room is none of the government's business. The churches can mind their
own business, and stay out of peoples lives. They have no business
trying to tell everyone else what kinds of movies, games, etc people
should watch or play. However, they do have an incredible sway over
American politics and to some degree over public opinion.
In countries where Christianity is not the mainstream religion, such
as Japan, you find much more relaxed views of sex, and much more
sexual content. I know the Japanese have adult oriented cartoons and
games where sex is quite previlent.  Obviously, they don't have a
problem with that kind of content, but we certainly do here in the
U.S.


On 2/28/10, Jim Kitchen  wrote:

Hi Thomas,

Yeah, I don't know why sex is so taboo for so many people in the U. S.  I
have always thought that it was a beautiful thing.  Now games, movies etc
that combine sex and violence really get me upset.  Some might say that 
is

what spanker does, but as I mentioned the motto is safe, sane and
consensual.

BFN

 Jim


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[Audyssey] Patrick Dwyer & Peter S. VanLund's RPG Game Engine and Map Maker?

2010-02-28 Thread Josh
Hi

is this accessible? found it on the accessible games site. I wonder if the 
mapmaker is really not accessible and if it could be made accessible? 
or is it a very limited type of thing and philip's game toolkit will be lots 
better?

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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread dark

not at all, either way you'll find the character on the fifth floor.

hth.

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Dark.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


Ah, There is always one on both of those? Great, as for the one on the 
sixth

floor I haven't gotten to that one yet. Does it matter if you go to the
Abandoned Mine Works are the Goblin Stronghold?
Best Regards,
Hayden

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You should rescue two more characters, one on the second and one on the
sixth floor. If your decending  so quick your missing those, your probably
not levelled up high enough to take on the drake anyway, sinse the levels
and xp system in the game has been carefully balanced out on the basis of
exploring the entire floor before going down.

hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Hi Dark,
Good strategy...butyou never seem to get any more  than one extra
character
by floor 6, which is the fartherest I have yet  descended. I must say I
have
grown to appreciate the increased challenge, in the Alpha all you really
had
todo was become an Oger fighter and try once or twice to defeat the Drake
and that was all. Now you have to...experiment.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:55 AM
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I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake 
Sean.


I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins,
bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.

The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and
paladin.

there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use
scrolls
strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't just try
using the same move constantly!

(I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and
one
to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



no not the drake.
Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality
with int and other increases.
scroles work on him to.
The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if 
you

are a ogar.
you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs 
at

level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers
would work.
the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.

I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
maybe.
At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
ground to fight the Drake.

As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?

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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread dark

the paladin is one of those jobs only available in the full version.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Milos Przic" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


  And yes, the paladin? Is it also an unlockable? I am not a spoiler-guy, 
but I don't have the time to explore so much although I am very 
interested...

 Milos Przic
msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com
skype: Milosh-hs
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From: "dark" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake 
Sean.


I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins, 
bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.


The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and 
paladin.


there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use 
scrolls strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't 
just try using the same move constantly!


(I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and 
one to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "shaun everiss" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



no not the drake.
Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever quality 
with int and other increases.

scroles work on him to.
The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if 
you are a ogar.

you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs 
at level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers 
would work.

the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.

I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
maybe.
At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
ground to fight the Drake.

As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Darren Harris
LOTR are you serious? The auther was a christion himself as far as I know
and some of the ideas in the book I've read are based on his faith and
beliefs. Very interesting.

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Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.

2010-02-28 Thread dark
I haven't really tried the paladin much yet, but I will say they make awsome 
skeletonal minians if you've got a necro..


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Peterson" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


Nope, the Paladin's not an unlockable, but like the Assassin it isn't in 
the demo. Personally I'm not that impressed with the Paladin's abilities.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of 
pizza?

Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
- Original Message - 
From: "Milos Przic" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


  And yes, the paladin? Is it also an unlockable? I am not a spoiler-guy, 
but I don't have the time to explore so much although I am very 
interested...

 Milos Przic
msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com
skype: Milosh-hs
- Original Message - 
From: "dark" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.


I'm afraid I disagree that this is the only way of beating the drake 
Sean.


I've done it with parties of monks, mages, druids, fighters, assassins, 
bards, rangers and necros,  even parties with fairies.


The only jobs I really haven't got to grips with yet are barbarian and 
paladin.


there's no need really for a specific job or race, provided you use 
scrolls strategically, remember rules about special attacks, and don't 
just try using the same move constantly!


(I actually find it helpful to use two characters for offense only, and 
one to pass out the scrolls and healing potions).


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "shaun everiss" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.



no not the drake.
Firstly swords don't cut the drake you need a club.
its probably a good idea to have swords or something of whatever 
quality with int and other increases.

scroles work on him to.
The only actual combo without all the new power transfer items are if 
you are a ogar.

you need a couple of clubs at about 14 or less dammage 9-14.
one should be grannet and both need to be of some stone.
grate clubs are prefured  and skill for duelwield max, and large clubs 
at level3 or 4 and flurry max or at level3 or more.
I wouldn't worry to much with armour though a couple rosewood bucklers 
would work.

the ogar has quite tough hide but thats how I did him in.

I may try as a drewed or necro with maxed iceblast and a few int items.
maybe.
At 12:30 p.m. 28/02/2010, you wrote:

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating
the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times
I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with.

Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long
sword and the best armour I could find for her.
Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood
staff and light armour/cloathing.
Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour,
legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you
don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm,
and basically get chopped up in the process.
Lupercus -- My wolf companion.
Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and
was raised from the dead to help out in the battle.
Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle
ground to fight the Drake.

As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really
kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the
dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage
and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs
missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended
up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the
floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or
roasted to death. Any suggestions/help?

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Re: [Audyssey] buying entombed

2010-02-28 Thread dark
Currently it is setup so it's tied to the E-mail address of whoever buys it, 
but I think if you sent jason an E-mail he'd be quite happy to create a paid 
for account with your friends' addresses after he recieved your payment on 
their behalf.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "Josh" 

To: "gamers list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:15 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] buying entombed



Hi

letssay i have some friends who have the entombed game and I want to buy 
it for them. is this possible or is the game set up so I can only buy it 
for myself?


Josh

Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com
my blog is at http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net (updated frequently). Tired 
of Microsoft Windows and paying thousands for screen-readers? try out 
NVDA, get a mac--, nvda--for Windows, or try out and switch to grml, 
Ubuntu, Vinux, or knoppix-adriane Linux desktops. Knoppix ubuntu and 
vinux-cli-max are the most accessible for beginners. also try vinux-gui 
and encourage those at www.cherrypal.com to use windows-xp and nvda 
knoppix-adriane Vinux-cli-max or grml so all blind people can have an 
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[Audyssey] lone wolf mission help!

2010-02-28 Thread Ryan Chou
hey can someone help me with lone wolf mission 39?
or is there no way to beat it?

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Jacob Kruger

Go to:
http://www.blindsea.com/node/11

Search for keyword larry, and you'll find the one I mean.

FWIW, in terms of IF games, I have found an interpreter that can at least
play some of the formats - only Z5 - and while it's not as good as winfrotz
TTS, at least it wants to currently work on my machine.

Just calls itsself Adventure Games, and while can't remember off hand how I
found it, at least it sort of works.

Stay well

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

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From: "Ron Schamerhorn" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Adult games



I tried to do some searching for it but haven't found anything.  It would
be
fun to find it though.

Ron

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From: "Jacob Kruger" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Adult games


Well, not too relevant, and can't currently really get winFrotz TTS to
work
on my one machine, but there's an interactive fiction version of leisure
suit larry in something like the .z5 format out there.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Adult games



I agree and I'm not even a hip lol.
It's kind of twisted how people today think kids watching batman handing
out a brutal beating's okay and yet anything to do with sex is wrong.
Japanese people however, seem to see this in a totally different light-
they're much more open about both sides of the issue and do not exclude
children from either violence or sexuality.
"No one ever kicked ass by saying I can't."

Johnny ST Tai

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To: "Audyssey" 
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:51 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Adult games



Hi,

Speaking of adult games, in my opinion, violence is way worse than sex.
I know that is not the popular opinion but being a long time peace
loving
hippie it is my opinion.  So to me games where you are bashing and or
killing monsters, animals or humans would be worse for kids to be
playing
than games with a bit of sexual content in them.

TGIF and BFN
Jim

Cleverly disguised as a Responsible Adult

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread dark
On the level of entombed, I will say that the purpose of the limb system was 
actually to make a far more interesting and realistic form of hp and damage 
taking than in most rpgs  which just rely on a number of hp.


that's why you can knock people over by hitting their feet, or disarm them 
by aiming for hands. that's why descriptions of hand mangling and indeed 
limb or head chopping are fairly minimal, because those aren't really a 
major point of the game.


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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Jacob Kruger

See other mail - it links to the blindsea repository of IF games.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
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To: "Jacob Kruger" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Adult games



Hi Jacob,

That would be fun to play the interactive fiction version of leisure suit 
Larry as I do not believe that the original version was accessible at all. 
I think that all of the text was graphical not real text.


BFN

Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] buying entombed

2010-02-28 Thread dark
If your suggesting giving friends your address so they can effectively logue 
in to your own account,  this is what is known as game piracy, and I 
think once the account was registered on multiple machines Jason would 
(rightfully), have something to say about it.


Beware the grue!

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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] buying entombed



Hi Josh,
Well you could of curse give your friends' email addresses they have used
for your account.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:16 AM
To: gamers list
Subject: [Audyssey] buying entombed

Hi

letssay i have some friends who have the entombed game and I want to buy 
it

for them. is this possible or is the game set up so I can only buy it for
myself?

Josh

Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com
my blog is at http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net (updated frequently). Tired 
of
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get
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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread dark

Hi Tom.

I will say, the us mix of religion and right wing politics who actually get 
in power and pass what are effectively deeply authoritarian laws scare me 
quite a lot.


While certainly in england there are parts of the country, and members of 
both Catholic and protestant churchs who would be pretty extreme (my brother 
once had a horrible experience when a vicar insited a church full of people 
to go and verbally yell at a man on a gay rights stand), I will say at least 
it's kept out of politics and gay   marriage is actually officially legal (a 
friend of mine is a gay priest, - obviously one of the less extreme 
variety).


appologies if this sounds like us bashing, it is just something I've noticed 
rather heavily, just as disability atitudes tend to be better over there, 
toleration of many other sorts isn't,  such is my notion from both 
public media and the americans I've talked to anyway.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.


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Hi Jim,
Well, I don't either, but I have a pretty good theory why that is. If
we consider that the U.S. is largely made up of Christians of one
denomination or another that's obviously going to reflect on the
public outlook on sex. Let's not forget in the 2000 and 2004 elections
most Republicans got elected by getting on the God, gays, and guns
compeign  platform. Afterwards we had very stupid discussions of
ammending the constitution to define mariage as a union between a man
and a woman. As though passing a law can stop homosexual couples from
having a relationship which it couldn't.
Personally, I feel what a couple, same sex or not, does in the bed
room is none of the government's business. The churches can mind their
own business, and stay out of peoples lives. They have no business
trying to tell everyone else what kinds of movies, games, etc people
should watch or play. However, they do have an incredible sway over
American politics and to some degree over public opinion.
In countries where Christianity is not the mainstream religion, such
as Japan, you find much more relaxed views of sex, and much more
sexual content. I know the Japanese have adult oriented cartoons and
games where sex is quite previlent.  Obviously, they don't have a
problem with that kind of content, but we certainly do here in the
U.S.


On 2/28/10, Jim Kitchen  wrote:

Hi Thomas,

Yeah, I don't know why sex is so taboo for so many people in the U. S.  I
have always thought that it was a beautiful thing.  Now games, movies etc
that combine sex and violence really get me upset.  Some might say that 
is

what spanker does, but as I mentioned the motto is safe, sane and
consensual.

BFN

 Jim


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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Bryan Peterson
I've heard quite a few CHristians railing on about LOTR being evil, my x 
girlfriend being one of them. Of course now she's converted to Druidism and 
she's claiming that Tolkien stole the ideas for the stories from Druidic 
faith. Her friend April actually believes she's an Elven spirit, Alandio I 
think her name is, and that the events of LOTR actually happened.

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LOTR are you serious? The auther was a christion himself as far as I know
and some of the ideas in the book I've read are based on his faith and
beliefs. Very interesting.

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Re: [Audyssey] Patrick Dwyer & Peter S. VanLund's RPG Game Engine andMap Maker?

2010-02-28 Thread dark
The last crusade game is! accessible, I believe it's hosted on X site. It's 
a simple rpg which is a trifle too easy to win, but it's fun for a quick run 
through, even if it is more of a concept demo than a game,  and 
especially sinse I don't believe any other projects have been built with the 
map making system.


I did once attempt to contact the creators,  but sadly nno reply.

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Subject: [Audyssey] Patrick Dwyer & Peter S. VanLund's RPG Game Engine 
andMap Maker?




Hi

is this accessible? found it on the accessible games site. I wonder if the 
mapmaker is really not accessible and if it could be made accessible?
or is it a very limited type of thing and philip's game toolkit will be 
lots better?


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[Audyssey] tecnoshock

2010-02-28 Thread Josh
Hi

does anyone have any good background music for technoshock? maybe from 
www.magnatunes.com ? 

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[Audyssey] background music for sond-rts

2010-02-28 Thread Josh
Hi

is there any way to add background music for sound-rts, or not? 

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Harmony Neil
OK.  Why would people be offended by a kids series like Harry Potter or
Chronicals of Narnia?  

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It's funny, but we were a bit more relaxded about things like that back in 
like the 70s or 80s, hence the Leisure Suit Larry games. As I said before my

dad, brother and sister used to play those games all the time. I don't 
suppose my mom was too thrilled about it but they did it anyway. Nowadays if

someone tried to release a Larry game they'd probably have fundamentalist 
Christians jumping down their throats just they way they do for things like 
Harry Potter and even Lord of the Rings and even, to some extent, the 
Chronicles of Narnia. I actually once had a neighbor tell me quite 
confidently that Aslan was the devil.
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> Hi Jim,
> Well, I don't either, but I have a pretty good theory why that is. If
> we consider that the U.S. is largely made up of Christians of one
> denomination or another that's obviously going to reflect on the
> public outlook on sex. Let's not forget in the 2000 and 2004 elections
> most Republicans got elected by getting on the God, gays, and guns
> compeign  platform. Afterwards we had very stupid discussions of
> ammending the constitution to define mariage as a union between a man
> and a woman. As though passing a law can stop homosexual couples from
> having a relationship which it couldn't.
> Personally, I feel what a couple, same sex or not, does in the bed
> room is none of the government's business. The churches can mind their
> own business, and stay out of peoples lives. They have no business
> trying to tell everyone else what kinds of movies, games, etc people
> should watch or play. However, they do have an incredible sway over
> American politics and to some degree over public opinion.
> In countries where Christianity is not the mainstream religion, such
> as Japan, you find much more relaxed views of sex, and much more
> sexual content. I know the Japanese have adult oriented cartoons and
> games where sex is quite previlent.  Obviously, they don't have a
> problem with that kind of content, but we certainly do here in the
> U.S.
>
>
> On 2/28/10, Jim Kitchen  wrote:
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> Yeah, I don't know why sex is so taboo for so many people in the U. S.  I
>> have always thought that it was a beautiful thing.  Now games, movies etc
>> that combine sex and violence really get me upset.  Some might say that 
>> is
>> what spanker does, but as I mentioned the motto is safe, sane and
>> consensual.
>>
>> BFN
>>
>>  Jim
>
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[Audyssey] buying entombed for friends

2010-02-28 Thread Josh
Hi

no I am suggesting saving money and buying it for me for $40 
buying it for friend number1 for $40
friend2 $40
and so on. 
I want to buy it for my friendds because I just figured out how to activate my 
paypal account after a year and I think paypal is cool so I want to save money 
and buy the game for my friends I know in the real world, and for friends on 
klango! to buy the game for all my friends I'll have to save $200 or so but 
that's ok because I'll be helping people in other countries who cannot afford 
it. 


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Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results

2010-02-28 Thread Charles Rivard
Probably because, as long as they can get a bit of money for doing something 
they enjoy doing, why not?  It's like people who give guitar lessons because 
they enjoy doing.  Why shouldn't they charge for their services?  No reason 
at all.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results


Then if they do it as a hobby, why do they sell the games?.
The best sight for games is, audio games!
Go to.
www.audiogames.net
msn:
muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk
Skype:
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To: "Charles Rivard" ; "Gamers Discussion list"

Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results


> Nice notion indeed Charlese,  afterall we players have to remember
> that most audio game devs do it as a hobby not a main job, and thus have
> their own preferences to considder as well as hours.
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Charles Rivard" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results
>
>
>> Know what I'd like to see, out of interest?  A survey similar to this
>> one,
>> only from the standpoint of game developers.  What games would you like
>> to
>> produce that were listed on this survey?  What speech scheme would be
>> easiest for you to work with when producing games?  That sort of stuff.
>> We've seen it from the gamer's side, I'd like to see it from the
>> manufacturing side, too.  I think it would be interesting.
>> ---
>> In God we trust!
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Thomas Ward" 
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:01 PM
>> Subject: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results
>>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>> I thought many of you, especially game developers, might be interested
>> to know what the audio games community had to say regarding the
>> marketing survey posted yesterday. The results are pretty interesting,
>> and gives a good idea of where gamer's interests are as well as what
>> hardware and software they have. Here is the early results of the
>> survey thus far.
>>
>> Age:
>>
>> The youngest person polled was 11-years old and the oldest member was
>> 55-years old. The average age of our target market is between 18 and
>> 31.
>>
>> Operating Systems:
>>
>> The number one operating system prefered by our target market is
>> Windows XP followed by Windows Vista. The least amount of votes was
>> for Mac OS.
>> Although, nearly everyone surveyed liked the idea of games being
>> created for Mac or Linux using Cider or Cedega as long as they got the
>> same features as on Windows, but most prefered to stick with Windows
>> XP themselves.
>>
>> Input Devices:
>>
>> The most popular input device is the keyboard with a few requesting
>> better joystick support. Nearly everyone polled felt that adding a
>> joystick with force feedback support would be a good selling point for
>> the game, and something they'd like to see done. Especially, in the
>> case of a racing game or flight game where force feedback enabled
>> stearing wheels and flightsticks adds extra realism for the game.
>>
>> Speech Output:
>>
>> Regarding speech out put the survey was split pretty equally between
>> those that wanted prerecorded speech and those who would rather have
>> Sapi support. All of those in favor of prerecorded speech mentioned
>> they'd like to see more human voices, voice acting, etc rather than
>> just prerecorded clips of TTS voices. Those in favor of Sapi were less
>> concerned about speech quality and were in favor of the ability to
>> select a voice, speed, volume, and customize the voice using their
>> favorite Sapi speech engine/voice.  A couple were in favor of using
>> their screen reader instead, but weren't enough to really consider
>> that an option compared to the other two alternatives.
>>
>> Game Genres:
>>
>> The number one response to wwhich type of game people liked to play
>> was all of the above which included: arcade, side-scroller, first
>> person, sports, and text adventure. Several expressed an interest in
>> arcade games. Many also expressed an interest in side-scrollers, and
>> wanted to see more games like Mysteries of the Ancients. A few
>> specifically mentioned an interest in first person as well, but not as
>> many as the other two catagories.
>>
>> Conclusion:
>>
>> So far what the survey results show is that a commercial developers
>> largest market is users running Windows XP, between the ages of 18 and
>> 31, and they would like to see features such as force feedback that
>> are really only supported through DirectX. Many would like to have
>> Sapi support so they can have control over the speech settings, and
>> others want more realistic human voices if it is possible. As far as
>> any specific genre of game any type of game will do

Re: [Audyssey] buying entombed for friends

2010-02-28 Thread dark

Hi josh.


a good and worth while effort, I'd deffinately! suggest you chat to Jason 
about this one, sinse I think he'd be pleased at your generosity,  and 
be glad to create accounts for your friends' addresses using your payment 
(he might even give you some sort of discount,  though obviously I'm not 
him so can't say).


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "Josh" 

To: "gamers list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:31 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] buying entombed for friends



Hi

no I am suggesting saving money and buying it for me for $40
buying it for friend number1 for $40
friend2 $40
and so on.
I want to buy it for my friendds because I just figured out how to 
activate my paypal account after a year and I think paypal is cool so I 
want to save money and buy the game for my friends I know in the real 
world, and for friends on klango! to buy the game for all my friends I'll 
have to save $200 or so but that's ok because I'll be helping people in 
other countries who cannot afford it.



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NVDA, get a mac--, nvda--for Windows, or try out and switch to grml, 
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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Bryan Peterson
I actually tend to agree with you Dark. We're so uptight about everything 
anymore. And those are the types of people who end up in power.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Adult games



Hi Tom.

I will say, the us mix of religion and right wing politics who actually 
get in power and pass what are effectively deeply authoritarian laws scare 
me quite a lot.


While certainly in england there are parts of the country, and members of 
both Catholic and protestant churchs who would be pretty extreme (my 
brother once had a horrible experience when a vicar insited a church full 
of people to go and verbally yell at a man on a gay rights stand), I will 
say at least it's kept out of politics and gay   marriage is actually 
officially legal (a friend of mine is a gay priest, - obviously one of 
the less extreme variety).


appologies if this sounds like us bashing, it is just something I've 
noticed rather heavily, just as disability atitudes tend to be better over 
there, toleration of many other sorts isn't,  such is my notion from 
both public media and the americans I've talked to anyway.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.


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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Adult games



Hi Jim,
Well, I don't either, but I have a pretty good theory why that is. If
we consider that the U.S. is largely made up of Christians of one
denomination or another that's obviously going to reflect on the
public outlook on sex. Let's not forget in the 2000 and 2004 elections
most Republicans got elected by getting on the God, gays, and guns
compeign  platform. Afterwards we had very stupid discussions of
ammending the constitution to define mariage as a union between a man
and a woman. As though passing a law can stop homosexual couples from
having a relationship which it couldn't.
Personally, I feel what a couple, same sex or not, does in the bed
room is none of the government's business. The churches can mind their
own business, and stay out of peoples lives. They have no business
trying to tell everyone else what kinds of movies, games, etc people
should watch or play. However, they do have an incredible sway over
American politics and to some degree over public opinion.
In countries where Christianity is not the mainstream religion, such
as Japan, you find much more relaxed views of sex, and much more
sexual content. I know the Japanese have adult oriented cartoons and
games where sex is quite previlent.  Obviously, they don't have a
problem with that kind of content, but we certainly do here in the
U.S.


On 2/28/10, Jim Kitchen  wrote:

Hi Thomas,

Yeah, I don't know why sex is so taboo for so many people in the U. S. 
I
have always thought that it was a beautiful thing.  Now games, movies 
etc
that combine sex and violence really get me upset.  Some might say that 
is

what spanker does, but as I mentioned the motto is safe, sane and
consensual.

BFN

 Jim


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[Audyssey] Entombed keystrokes list

2010-02-28 Thread Jacob Kruger

Hi

After my monthly bandwidth has just been reset, I downloaded the release 
version of Entombed, but for some or other reason, the link to the 
documentation webpage is just timing out, over and over again.


Was just wondering if anyone has a list of things like keystrokes for the 
game?


I know of the obvious ones like L for location, and things like shift that 
invoke a form of context menu, but would just like to have a list of all 
relevant keystrokes, and confirm that to travel you just use cursor keys 
etc.?


TIA

Jacob Kruger
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Re: [Audyssey] buying entombed for friends

2010-02-28 Thread Matt
I suggested this to Jason directly several weeks ago, not heard 
anything yet on it.  I called it a Gift of RPG to a Friend.


We will see.  I bet he already working on this.

*smile*

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Re: [Audyssey] Entombed keystrokes list

2010-02-28 Thread Jacob Kruger
Ok, seems online again now, so busy downloading offline versions of manual 
pages, but here are the keystrokes was sort of looking for:

Left Control / Right Control: Abort SAPI text. Not all text can be aborted.
Quotes: Enter a shop. Obviously only works when a shop is present.
Question Mark: Get directions to the nearest unexplored space.
L: Get your X, Y location on the map and whether or not you've visited that 
space before.
F5: Save your game. New saves overwrite old ones. You can't save while in 
combat.

Period: Descend a stairway.
Comma: Ascend a stairway.
M: Use magic. This only works if you have a character that can use magic, 
and the spell can be used while exploring the dungeon.
G: Pick items up off the floor. If you're standing in a room, you'll get a 
list of items in the entire room.

D: Drop the currently selected item. Only works in the inventory menu.
I: Inventory. Use this to browse your inventory. Pressing the tab key sorts 
your items into different groups.
E: Equipment. Use this to equip weapons and armor. Pressing the tab key 
switches between the characters in your adventuring party.
X: Examine. This key has multiple uses depending on the context it's used 
in. It describes the currently selected object. Items, monsters, spells, and 
more can all be examined in detail. When pressed while standing in a room, 
it will describe the location of the doors. Use examine anytime you want 
more information on a given object, monster, or spell.
Z: Search your surroundings. This attempts to find any secret locations that 
might be adjacent to your current position. It's not always successful, even 
if a secret is present, so it's not wise to search every inch of the 
dungeon. Searching passes time which can result in an encounter or spell 
effects triggering.
S: Status. Use this key to get health and magic status on any character in 
your party.
C: The C key has two functions. The first is getting detailed character 
information. Use it to administer skill points, choose secondary jobs, and 
get more information on skills and abilities. The C key can also be used to 
compare a selected item with similar equipped items. For example, if you 
have a sword selected on your inventory menu, that sword will be compared 
with every other weapon equipped by your party. If a character can't use an 
item, it won't be compared.
Escape: Use this to cancel selections from menus or to bring up the options 
menu when no other menu is present.
Plus and Minus keys: These keys are used to administer skill points. First 
press the C key to bring up your character details. Then select the option 
to distribute skill points. When a skill is selected that you want to 
improve, press the plus key to add a point to it. The minus key can be used 
to remove points if you make a mistake. Once your skill point changes have 
been saved, they can't be further edited.
T: Timeline. Use this to display the order of combatants in battle. A 
character's order in the battle queue is determined by a number of factors 
including their last action, their speed, and any status effects.
Tab: The tab key is used to sort items in a menu, switch the currently 
selected character in some menus, or switch the targets in the battle menu. 
For example, when browsing the inventory menu, you can press tab to sort the 
items into groups. When the equipment or character menu is active, tab will 
switch the currently selected character. When selecting a target in battle, 
you can use the tab key to switch the target types. This means you can 
potentially attack your own party.
R: Rest. Resting restores your health and magic fully. Resting passes a lot 
of time which can result encounter interruptions.
Arrow keys - Up, Down, Left, Right: These move your party through the 
dungeon and change menu selections. See Navigating the Dungeon for more 
information on dungeon exploration.


Jacob Kruger
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Skype: BlindZA
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Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed keystrokes list



Hi

After my monthly bandwidth has just been reset, I downloaded the release 
version of Entombed, but for some or other reason, the link to the 
documentation webpage is just timing out, over and over again.


Was just wondering if anyone has a list of things like keystrokes for the 
game?


I know of the obvious ones like L for location, and things like shift that 
invoke a form of context menu, but would just like to have a list of all 
relevant keystrokes, and confirm that to travel you just use cursor keys 
etc.?


TIA

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'


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[Audyssey] buying entombed for friends

2010-02-28 Thread Josh
Hi

yes and to make it easier someone who I did a job for owes me a few hundred 
dollars. so if they get that to me I can buy a few coppies of entombed quite 
easily. 

Josh

Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com
my blog is at http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net (updated frequently). Tired of 
Microsoft Windows and paying thousands for screen-readers? try out NVDA, get a 
mac--, nvda--for Windows, or try out and switch to grml, Ubuntu, Vinux, or 
knoppix-adriane Linux desktops. Knoppix ubuntu and vinux-cli-max are the most 
accessible for beginners. also try vinux-gui and encourage those at 
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Re: [Audyssey] tecnoshock

2010-02-28 Thread James Dietz
Technoshock is best enjoyed without music in my humble opinion.  I'm
sure you can find some on the given site. You know what you like.

On 2/28/10, Josh  wrote:
> Hi
>
> does anyone have any good background music for technoshock? maybe from
> www.magnatunes.com ?
>
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> knoppix-adriane Linux desktops. Knoppix ubuntu and vinux-cli-max are the
> most accessible for beginners. also try vinux-gui and encourage those at
> www.cherrypal.com to use windows-xp and nvda knoppix-adriane Vinux-cli-max
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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Harmony,
As my in-laws are exactly that kind of people I can tell you why. In
the old testament it has prohibitions against witchcraft, magic,
divination, and that kind of thing. So even though Harry Potter, Lord
of the Rings, Star Wars, you name it are completely fictional works of
art they view it as sinful, evil, and demonic. Therefore they tend to
demonize those types of books, movies, and games regardless if it is
truly evil or not.
Case in point. My in-laws once saw a commercial for Star Wars the
Phantom Menice on TV, and as they saw Darth Maul they said he was the
devil. Never mind Darth Maul is an alien, has nothing to do with
Satanism, never-the-less that is exactly what they believe. Harry
Potter, Star Wars, and anything like that is Satanic in their opinion.
The base their belief on a couple passages in the bible that tells
them they will go to hell if they have anything to do with magic and
witchcraft.


On 2/28/10, Harmony Neil  wrote:
> OK.  Why would people be offended by a kids series like Harry Potter or
> Chronicals of Narnia?

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[Audyssey] Moderator Message Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi all,
Ok, we have had a lot of fun with this topic, but I think now it is
time to stop. We are really gettingoff topic. So let's close this
topic now.

Thanks.


On 2/28/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:
> I've heard quite a few CHristians railing on about LOTR being evil, my x
> girlfriend being one of them. Of course now she's converted to Druidism and
> she's claiming that Tolkien stole the ideas for the stories from Druidic
> faith. Her friend April actually believes she's an Elven spirit, Alandio I
> think her name is, and that the events of LOTR actually happened.

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Re: [Audyssey] Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi. Rather than respond to many messages by sending many messages, I'll 
summarize what I have to say in one message. In addition, this will also 
address some of the things said by others on this topic.


To Jim: Some of my friends asked me if I was taking a chance by writing 
the adult game I did last year and the year before that. My response is 
that no matter where I work or who my friends are, I have a personal 
life and personal likes and dislikes. I don't hide the fact that I'm a 
married guy, that I work for GW Micro, and that I like playing games 
adult, violent, or otherwise.


To Thomas. I personally feel that sex, violence, and other things which 
some find distasteful have their appropriate place, time, and type of 
enjoyment. So to each their own. Trying to get stuff like this out of 
the school system is just over-protecting children. While I'm not for 
showing the details to children, I'm not for hiding the fact of the 
existence of such things.







Speaking of adult games, I hope that those of you on the list who have 
played my games have gone and voted for them if you liked them. I 
believe the deadline is tonight and the web address is 
http://erins.aifcommunity.org/voting


Many thanks.

On 2/28/2010 7:51 AM, Jim Kitchen wrote:

Hi Thomas,

Yeah, I don't know why sex is so taboo for so many people in the U. S. I
have always thought that it was a beautiful thing. Now games, movies etc
that combine sex and violence really get me upset. Some might say that
is what spanker does, but as I mentioned the motto is safe, sane and
consensual.

BFN

Jim

Born to be spanked.

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[Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games

2010-02-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,
Yeah, so I've noticed. I am actually glad to see the more complex
combat system in Entombed compared to a game like Sryth. With Sryth
the combat system is rather lame and not too descriptive of the damage
done to an enemy character. In Entombed you can chop an enemies legs
out from under him, chop off a hand holding a weapon, or lop off his
head. That makes it much more realistic and more fun.

On 2/28/10, dark  wrote:
> On the level of entombed, I will say that the purpose of the limb system was
> actually to make a far more interesting and realistic form of hp and damage
> taking than in most rpgs  which just rely on a number of hp.
>
> that's why you can knock people over by hitting their feet, or disarm them
> by aiming for hands. that's why descriptions of hand mangling and indeed
> limb or head chopping are fairly minimal, because those aren't really a
> major point of the game.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Entombed keystrokes list

2010-02-28 Thread Hayden Presley
 for location, and things like shift that

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