z990 multiprocessor overhead issue.

2006-03-24 Thread Patrick Loftus
We seem to be experiencing noticeably less MIPS than expected on our z/OS LPARs, and it almost looks like the speciality engines (zAAP, IFL etc) are contributing to the multiproccesor overheads and reducing the CPU resource. Has anyone else experienced greater multiprocessor overheads than

Re: Clock syncronization between platforms

2006-03-24 Thread Chris Mason
Paul, I'm sure you're right. I was highlighting the fact that UDP was used because the original post mentioned wanting to use TCP/IP for synchronization of clocks. Probably he didn't care whether or not it was TCP or UDP on top of IP that was the protocol for the job - hence the finicky.

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Bell [ snip ] The single biggest issue I remember was blksize on loadlibs. After much discussion, we moved them manually with copymod to set new blksizes. IBM has been recommending BLKSIZE=32760 for load

RES: Problem copying VM volumes under z/OS

2006-03-24 Thread Oswaldo Ferreira de Matos
Hi Bruce, I tryed to INIT the target volume under MVS with INIT. But the copy always fail. My INIT : ICKDSF - MVS/ESADEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0TIME: 0 INIT UNIT(8801) VOLID(HI8801) VFY(HI8801)

Re: Friday Topic...

2006-03-24 Thread Gary Green
Because the devil made me do it? Nah, I didn't think you would but it. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Friday Topic... I am getting sick

Re: RES: Problem copying VM volumes under z/OS

2006-03-24 Thread Brian Peterson
Look up this message in the manual. According to the message, DFDSS does not support the CPVOLUME parameter unless the VM volume has an OS- compatible VTOC. ICKDSF INIT on VM will create a VM volume with an OS- compatible VTOC. An ICKDSF INIT on MVS will not create a VM volume. The CPVOLUME

Re: Friday Topic...

2006-03-24 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
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Re: Friday Topic...

2006-03-24 Thread Richards.Bob
I enjoyed it too! But can he juggle workload priorities, implementation schedules, project deliverables, etc? grin Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 8:42

Re: Friday Topic...

2006-03-24 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
Gary, Great post and has more to do with MF jobs than you think. Do not tell me know one remembers juggling 3480 carts? ;-) Thanks, Fletch -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Friday Topic...

2006-03-24 Thread Stefani Collier
Are you kidding? Off-topic was the 3380 to 3390 conversion thread morphing into a riduculous conversation about contractors/consultants which caused the original poster of the question to have to ask for help a second time. You have the option of not participating by not reading the email.

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread John Eells
Chase, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Bell [ snip ] The single biggest issue I remember was blksize on loadlibs. After much discussion, we moved them manually with copymod to set new blksizes. IBM has been recommending

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/24/2006 6:56:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IBM has been recommending BLKSIZE=32760 for load libraries for at least a decade. Sell that DASD? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Friday Topic...

2006-03-24 Thread Liliane L. Clever
Made my day too. The guy is really good! Liliane At 08:42 AM 3/24/2006, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote: In a message dated 3/23/2006 11:30:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: _http://marketplace.espeakers.com/movie.php?sid=5290aid=10558_

Re: Friday Topic...

2006-03-24 Thread Dave Thorn
A little fun on this list, limited to Fridays, never hurt anyone. Lighten up gang. __ Dave Thorn * Senior Technology Analyst * SunGard Computer Services * 600 Laurel Oak Road, Voorhees, NJ, 08043 Tel

Re: Friday Topic...

2006-03-24 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Amazing - an earlier poster said something about juggling 3480 cartridges. I've never done that but have definitely felt like this guy while trying to juggle projects. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Thorn Sent:

Re: Friday Topic...

2006-03-24 Thread Greg Shirey
This list is hosted by the University of Alabama as a service. As guests, we should all follow the rules as posted by the list-owner. He has expressly forbidden off-topic Friday threads. Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: WLM Question

2006-03-24 Thread Terry Linsley
Eureka! If one digs deep enough (couple miles should do), RMF III will report what service class a DDF thread was classified into. The reason I wanted this was because I had a strong suspicion one of my prod DDF workloads was still falling out of the ruleset to default (suspicion based on

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread Mike Bell
Yes, but this conversion happended about 20 years ago. Some of the loadlibs were still blocked for 3330. Others were blocked to numbers that made no sense at all. production control had a lot of code to handle the different blksizes but still had periodic problems (one or two a year). . It was

Re: WLM Question

2006-03-24 Thread Terry Linsley
Timothy, Thanks. That is very good information and I am saving a copy for future use. Unfortunately manglement is dragging it's collective heels in letting us move z/OS 1.4 to production. So any solutions involving z/OS are pretty far out on the radar right now. Our currently contrained

Re: Friday Topic...

2006-03-24 Thread Gary Green
Or better still, 3850's. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fletcher, Kevin Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Friday Topic... Gary, Great post and has more to do with MF jobs than you

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread Eric Bielefeld
When we converted 10 to 15 years ago, I just used FDR/DSF and DFDSS to copy data. You have to do the dataset copy, not the full volume dump copy. I also changed the naming convention of the volsers. I think it was something like PRD0nn to PRD3nn - the PRD0nn being the original 3380K drives,

Re: WLM Question

2006-03-24 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 09:23 -0600, Terry Linsley wrote: Eureka! I discovered that the CI was being sent by the AIX system in lower case*. Changed the sub-rule back to type CI and specified the name in lower case, taking care to specify N for fold qualifier name (they sure could have named

VTAM and MS Host Integrated Server IP-DLC (Enterprise Extender)

2006-03-24 Thread Tim Hare
Is this the correct place to ask about VTAM issues? We're trying to move a Microsoft Host Integration Server from 802.2 connection to IP-DLC (AKA Enterprise Extender). The documentation we've found, however, doesn't really use the same names everywhere so we're having difficulty relating it to

Re: (fwd) RE: Contractor vs. employee was RE: 3380-3390 Conversion

2006-03-24 Thread Avram Friedman
In addition to the 'Contractor vs. employee' split there is also the 'professional vs company man' comparison Do I do what is best for the people who cut my check, could be a widget maker or a consultant body shop. example: An Enron person going to any length to make his firm look good Do I do

Re: WLM Question

2006-03-24 Thread Porowski, Ken
Depending on the application (we have PeopleSoft Financials) some of the CI come in both upper and lowercase so we have to have both types in for correct classification. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Linsley Sent:

Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-24 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I thought that the capacity model allowed you to go all the way from 1 processor to the maximum number of processors. I think the z/900 comes with books containing 8 processors each. You order 1 book if you need between 1 and 8 CPs, 2 if you need between 9 and 16, with a maximum of 3 books

Re: How to marry subsystem and dynamic allocation

2006-03-24 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:54:44 -0600, Tom Schmidt wrote: On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:13:57 -0500, Gil, Victor x28091 wrote: Good afternoon, IBM-MAIN We'd like to be able to prevent certain confidential fields in production files from being revealed to unauthorized users while still allowing access to

Re: The Replacements ???

2006-03-24 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi, In a related topic Death of the Mainframe Steve Ware did a really nice presentation at SHARE in Seattle based on a simple premise A CICS support person should be able to articulate the current capabilities of CICS and the mainframe, and make compelling arguments in favor of continuing to

Re: WLM Question

2006-03-24 Thread Terry Linsley
Yes, Shane had mentioned that he specifies it both ways also. Seems like a sound approach to me. I plan to do the same. Should save on future headaches. On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:28:22 -0500, Porowski, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depending on the application (we have PeopleSoft Financials) some

Re: How to marry subsystem and dynamic allocation

2006-03-24 Thread Victor Gil
Thanks a lot to everybody responded. Sam, moving production files to a DBMS is not an option at this time as it would require enormous changes to the applictions. And, yes, we are talking about thousands of files. David, I am not longer a fan of any smart hooks into MVS services [certainly not

Re: How to marry subsystem and dynamic allocation

2006-03-24 Thread Tom Williamson
Our ACC product hooks common allocation. We have been doing this type of thing for 20 years (ACC/SRS, Stop-X37, Pool-DASD). The ACC product already has code that adds SUBSYS to dd statements and then uses the subsystem open/close routines to front-end get/put. The hook is used for a compression

Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-24 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
According to the following book, there are 3 lines in the z900 series. The 101-109 have a book that contains 12 PUs, of which up to 9 can be normal processors (CP's). Even though IBM doesn't spell it out this way, the 1C1 thru 1C9 and the 110-116 actually form a single line or processors, having

Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-24 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/24/2006 11:20:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to the following book, there are 3 lines in the z900 series. The 101-109 have a book that contains 12 PUs, of which up to 9 can be normal processors (CP's). Even though IBM doesn't spell

Re: How to marry subsystem and dynamic allocation

2006-03-24 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:06:50 -0600, Victor Gil wrote: David, I am not longer a fan of any smart hooks into MVS services [certainly not into OPEN or SVC 99 logic] mainly because of the potential issues with code maintenance. [Although I have to admit, 25 years ago it was fun to take over DOS 3.x

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Ed, I don't understand your comment. COPYMOD has always adjusted the size of text blocks to optimally fill the track, so in actual fact 32760 for load libraries will sell less DASD, not more. Ron Sell that DASD? -- For

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread willie bunter
Hi Eric, Thanks for getting back to me. If you do have any info lying around I would be very happy to accept it. You mention IMS files. Did you use the vendor supplied utilities to transfer them? I remember in 1993 I had a problem with IMS. I used DFDSS to copy and restore

Re: How to marry subsystem and dynamic allocation

2006-03-24 Thread Walt Farrell
On 3/23/2006 3:12 PM, Gil, Victor x28091 wrote: We'd like to be able to prevent certain confidential fields in production files from being revealed to unauthorized users while still allowing access to the rest of the record. From the users prospective these files are read-only and are accessed

Re: How to marry subsystem and dynamic allocation

2006-03-24 Thread Victor Gil
Walt, The users: - test their changes by running jobs against read-only production files - view the files through CICS - view the files through TSO - run comparison jobs [both in Test and QA] against the files The PERMIT-PROGRAM approach is how we envision to grant access through the subsystem

Re: How to marry subsystem and dynamic allocation

2006-03-24 Thread Victor Gil
Tom, Yes, it's supposed to be fun. Thanks for the Batch Pipes tip, I'll take a look ... -Victor- On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:56:06 -0600, Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What BatchPipes buys you is a supported subsystem to do what you want (and a lot, lot more than that if you are looking for

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread Gerhard Adam
I don't understand your comment. COPYMOD has always adjusted the size of text blocks to optimally fill the track, so in actual fact 32760 for load libraries will sell less DASD, not more. I don't understand the issue. Load libraries have an undefined record format precisely because the

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/24/2006 1:29:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Single CSECT load modules are almost never large enough to use the maximum (32760) since that would require 8 base registers, so the only load modules that would produce TXT large enough to take

Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-24 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Ed, I don't want either one. I'm trying to talk mgmt into getting me a z890. The original post was asking about the difference between the z900 normal models and the capacity models. I was just trying to answer the questions that were posed. Rex snip In a message dated 3/24/2006

VSAM file open/close

2006-03-24 Thread Jorge Arueira Campos
Hil all How I see if VSAM file are open or close ??? Have a tools in mainframe for do it ??? Best regards Jorge Arueira Campos CAIXA ECONOMICA FEDERAL SAO PAULO - BRAZIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread Gerhard Adam
There are many ways to produce a single CSECT of only one module that uses only one base register at any one time. It begs the question, since the issue isn't whether it can be done, but whether it would be considered a typical size for a load module. Adam

Re: VSAM file open/close

2006-03-24 Thread Stocker, Herman
1 way - in 3.4 list enter ISRDDN en next to the cluster The're a number of programs around called WHOHAS that you can locate with a goole search. Regards, Herman Stocker Cendant Car Rental Group Phone: 1973-496-4847 Fax:1973-496-3480 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original

Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Does anyone know of any companies that can convert mainframe tapes to DVDs or CDs? As many of you know, our mainframe is going out the door at the end of April. All of the historical data and otherwise tape data will then in essence be unreadable by us. All of our tapes are currently 3490-E

Re: VSAM file open/close

2006-03-24 Thread Larry Crilley
If you have a way to display ENQs (TASID, for example), just look for MAJOR name of SYSDSN or SYSVSAM. Minor name, enter cluster name. If there is an ENQ, then the file is OPEN. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge Arueira

OMVS ROOT

2006-03-24 Thread ahmed sallam
Hello i have questions, if u would answer: The root file system is so large . the HFS has extended beyond the size10656000 1k blocks...it is a multifile extended to 9 volumes. i want to reduced it..so i will use PAX with option M so that will not copy data from other data sets mounted at

Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Does anyone know of any companies that can convert mainframe tapes to DVDs or CDs? As many of you know, our mainframe is going out the door at the end of April. All of the historical data and

Re: Friday Topic...

2006-03-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
A little fun on this list, limited to Fridays, never hurt anyone. Lighten up gang. This is the last I'm going to say on this (off-)topic. I disagree. And, darren has in the past. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in!

Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
What will FTP do to any packed data in the datasets? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 2:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD -Original

Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 2:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD Does anyone know of any companies that can convert mainframe

Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-24 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/24/2006 1:47:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: don't want either one. I'm trying to talk mgmt into getting me a z890. The original post was asking about the difference between the z900 normal models and the capacity models. I was just trying

Re: Friday Topic...

2006-03-24 Thread Desi de la Garza
We all could use a little lightening up on a Friday.. T -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 6:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Friday Topic... A little fun on

Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 2:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD What will FTP do to any packed data in the datasets?

Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Data could probably be FTP'd to us, depending on the sensitivity of the data. I have no idea how often we would need tapes converted. It might be 2 tapes over the next 5 years, no tapes, or 200 tapes. We have about 18,000 tapes in our tape library, however lots of them are scratch, test

Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
These machines have the same clock speed as the 101-109 line. Actually, they don't. A 101 is 235 MIPS-like entities. A 1C1 is 250. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-24 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Ed, No offense taken. I just didn't read your post in the same manner as you wrote it. Must be a Friday thing. g Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 2:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. What will FTP do to any packed data in the datasets? Standard answer: It depends. 1. If transferred as a plain ASCII transfer, packed decimal fields will get corrupted. 2. If transferred as a

Re: VTAM and MS Host Integrated Server IP-DLC (Enterprise Extender)

2006-03-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:54:27 -0600, Tim Hare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the correct place to ask about VTAM issues? We're trying to move a Microsoft Host Integration Server from 802.2 connection to IP-DLC (AKA Enterprise Extender). ... There really is no good place for VTAM questions any

Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-24 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
I saw that too, from Cheryl's list. But if they don't, IBM's document that I referred to is incorrect. It says that both the 10x and the 1Cx models have a 1.3 nanosecond cycle time and the 2Cx and 21x models have a 1.09 nanosecond cycle time. Maybe IBM did something different in building the

Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-24 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/24/2006 2:35:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No offense taken. I just didn't read your post in the same manner as you wrote it. Must be a Friday thing. g Seems like there ought to be sizing tool with stuff builtin instead of give me all

MVS LTO tape usage

2006-03-24 Thread Michael Wickman
We have been approached with the idea of converting our tape backups from 3590 to LTO to get encryption for our off-site backups. There are claims by the vender that they interface with our DASD backup system and TMS (CA-Disk and CA-1). I'm just started asking questions like What about

Re: VTAM and MS Host Integrated Server IP-DLC (Enterprise Extender)

2006-03-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:39:36 -0600, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... There really is no good place for VTAM questions any more. ... I should correct that. IBM runs a NewsGroup server with VTAM and APPN newsgroups, with z/CS developers(and Cisco developers) monitoring them. Very

Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-24 Thread Richards.Bob
Rex, CIU = Customer Initiated Upgrade Customer Initiated Upgrade (CIU) is the capability for the z990 (and I imagine a z900) user to initiate a permanent upgrade for CPs, ICFs, IFLs, zAAPs, and/or memory via the Web, using IBM Resource Link. CIU is similar to CUoD, but the capacity growth can

Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
That was the point I was inferring, that Eric asked for something that would convert to ASCII. Such a conversion via FTP would corrupt the binary data. Not converting it would preserve the binary/packed decimal but wouldn't accomplish the ASCII conversion. Eric's post stating the possibility of

Re: Friday Topic...

2006-03-24 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Ted, I don't expect a reply, as you said this was the last you were going to say, but this list has always gotten way off track on many topics. Friday off topic things are common. I'm sure Darren agrees with you, but he rarely does anything about them. It doesn't take much to delete

Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-24 Thread Richards.Bob
I believe this has been answered before. However, the reason is because of what happens in the manufacturing of the chips. Some chips yield faster clocking results than the established minimum and maximum. The best of the maximums are set aside and, voila, you have a turbo model. Those below

Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Rex and John, I thought of that fact, that packed data wouldn't get translated correctly. That's why I think the best solution would be to buy the tape drive and software, which would handle all of the data conversions. I guess I won't have to worry about it though. Eric Bielefeld Sr.

Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I saw that too, from Cheryl's list. But if they don't, IBM's document that I referred to is incorrect. It says that both the 10x and the 1Cx models have a 1.3 nanosecond cycle time and the 2Cx and 21x models have a 1.09 nanosecond cycle time. Cheryl's list comes from the LSPR data. When IBM

Re: Friday Topic...

2006-03-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I didn't say I wouldn't reply off list, but we are NON-paying guests, and he does own the list. It does clutter up archive searches. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -Original Message- From: Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:

Fw: Friday Topic...

2006-03-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Sorry, this was intended to go off list. Now, I'll shut up, shutting up. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -Original Message- From: Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:54:13 To:Mainframe Discussion List, IBM

Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Seems like there ought to be sizing tool with stuff builtin instead of give me all you've got and see if it works? Sorry, but it's always been that way for modelling tools. You have to do a 'virtual' upgrade to see if it will work. Try zPCR. I used it when I was at IBM. And, it's got the best

Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 2:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD Rex and John, I thought of that fact, that packed data

Re: MVS LTO tape usage

2006-03-24 Thread Brian Peterson
Apparently, IBM was/is planning to provide some support for this sort of function under IBM's TotalStorage brand of products (which I believe include both disk and tape). Perhaps your friendly IBM representative might be able to give your company some insight into IBM's future plans in this area.

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread Gerhard Adam
Yes, but While IBM has been preaching 32760 for loadlibs and system- determined blocksizes for other libraries, it has also been churning out some Program Directories that have not been rewritten for decades, with BLKSIZE= 6144 for loadlibs, 3200 for LRECL=80 datasets, etc. And some people

RES: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread Bodra - Pessoal
I did something similar in past using TCPIP Tools from Barnard Software to read 3490 tape cartridge and write down contents directly to xSeries hard disk. Then burn a data cd using Nero. I tested process inverted (read cd to hard disk, then read xSeries hard disk using Barnard Software to a 3490

Re: RES: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/24/2006 3:14:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: read 3490 tape cartridge and write down contents directly to xSeries hard disk. Then burn a data cd using Nero. Didn't it get monotonous after the first few 100?

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Willie, I'll try to answer all of your questions. I'll do this one from the listserve web site, as it doesn't time out like my Roadrunner Email account does when I take a little too long to reply. I found some of my old JCL, so I'll cut and paste that for the catalog moves. 1. I think all of

Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread Ray Mullins
You might be able to use SOX and auditor requirements to convince them that would be $10K well invested . Sometimes demonstrating that having the capability just in case is good enough to warrant the expenditure. Later, Ray -- M. Ray Mullins Roseville, CA, USA

Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread Ray Mullins
Something else to think about...binary fields. Coincidentally, on the Software AG NATURAL discussion board, there's been a topic about migrating from BS2000/OSD to Unix and the various things to watch out for. One thing that came up was endian-ness. Depending on the software, it's possible that

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 24, 2006, at 8:23 AM, John Eells wrote: SNIP--- Also, to avoid RC4s from COPYMOD that would make a duly diligent sysprog from looking at (and up) messages that don't matter, always use PARM=SPCLCMOD with COPYMOD. John, Had not heard about

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread Steve Arnett
Ed Gould wrote: On M John, Had not heard about that parm before. I looked it up and it was as clear as mud... (ok dark bear). It is obviously Friday! How much clearer is a light bear? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
except for SAS SAS went to strictly PS files with V6 (I think) and relative record/block access. The issue from BDAM files disappeared in the conversion from 3380 to 3390, except for space. Then they dropped support for BDAM in V8. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal

Re: VSAM file open/close

2006-03-24 Thread Bruce Black
If you have a way to display ENQs (TASID, for example), just look for MAJOR name of SYSDSN or SYSVSAM. Minor name, enter cluster name. If there is an ENQ, then the file is OPEN. not quite. The SYSDSN ENQ shows that the cluster is allocated, but not necessarily open. The SYSVSAM ENQ

Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I'm pretty sure we don't encrypt any data. Much of our backups are compressed, and done with vendor products, however, I don't think that matters, as all of the data in all of the IMS and VSAM files has been converted. I think that only sequential disk or tape data would need to be

Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread Tim Hare
In batch, you could: 1. Use DFSORT/ICETOOL to read the files, convert binary/packed fields to human-readable (don't forget the sign!), and write it to a temporary file which is passed to part 2 2. Use FTP with PUT '//DD:ddname' somefilename to write the temporary file to some FTP server.

Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread Imbriale, Don
A search via Google for convert 3490e tape to cd yields thousands of hits. On the first page of 20 hits, there are at least a half a dozen companies that provide the service you are looking for. Even to the point of converting binary and packed decimal fields as needed. Note however that these

Re: z990 multiprocessor overhead issue.

2006-03-24 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 05:36 -0600, Patrick Loftus wrote: We seem to be experiencing noticeably less MIPS than expected on our z/OS LPARs, and it almost looks like the speciality engines (zAAP, IFL etc) are contributing to the multiproccesor overheads and reducing the CPU resource. Hadn't

Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/24/2006 4:27:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So far, no one has givin me any companies that do this sort of thing. Does anyone know of any? Of course, most of you hopefully have never had to deal with this sort of thing. The banks use

Re: VSAM file open/close

2006-03-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The SYSVSAM ENQ generally indicates that the cluster is open In general, don't ENQ's only show up if there is contention? - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: z990 multiprocessor overhead issue.

2006-03-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Hadn't thought about that. Would be surprised if IFLs got involved, but I can imagine zAAPs (and zIIPs) might. They are exposed to the MVS scheduler, and so would conceivably suffer the same interprocess locking/spin issues. I think it's more than lock/spin. What about just making the decision to

Re: VSAM file open/close

2006-03-24 Thread Kirk Talman
For option 2 of TASID that is correct. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 03/23/2006 07:00:00 PM: The SYSVSAM ENQ generally indicates that the cluster is open In general, don't ENQ's only show up if there is contention? -

Re: z990 multiprocessor overhead issue.

2006-03-24 Thread Richards.Bob
With the CPs being pooled, I doubt the specialties draw down the MIP MP effect. They might chew some quick cycles, but they should not impact MIP capacity like additional general purpose CPs would. Bob Richards VP, Enterprise Technologist Enterprise Technology Infrastructure SunTrust Banks,

Re: VSAM file open/close

2006-03-24 Thread Ray Mullins
Well, you notice them when there is contention. :-) But ENQs are issued all the time, and they can be found using products like OMEGAMON, etc., or you can run the ENQ chains yourself. Later, Ray -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: ESTAE-underTSO question

2006-03-24 Thread Chris Craddock
I have a program with an ESTAE that gets control and issues a SDUMP. This works fine when submitted as a batch job, as the program is in an authorized library. When invoking the same program from a TSO REXX EXEC, the SDUMP in the ESTAE fails with a S133 abend indicating 'An unauthorized

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: except for SAS SAS went to strictly PS files with V6 (I think) and relative record/ block access. The issue from BDAM files disappeared in the conversion from 3380 to 3390, except for space. Then they dropped support for BDAM in V8. -

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 24, 2006, at 3:57 PM, Steve Arnett wrote: Ed Gould wrote: On M John, Had not heard about that parm before. I looked it up and it was as clear as mud... (ok dark bear). It is obviously Friday! How much clearer is a light bear? Enough to see a face on the other side of the

CICS down after transaction exec wait macro.

2006-03-24 Thread Jorge Arueira Campos
Hi all A test of transaction(SUPX) under CICS V2.2.0, in instructions wait coded below, down the CICS. 289 WAIT 5,ECBLIST=LISTECBS 290+*MACDATE 10/20/88 292+ LA0,5(0,0)LOAD PARAMETER REG 0 294+ LA1,LISTECBS

Re: Convert 3490E Tapes to CD or DVD

2006-03-24 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 24, 2006, at 4:26 PM, Eric Bielefeld wrote: I'm pretty sure we don't encrypt any data. Much of our backups are compressed, and done with vendor products, however, I don't think that matters, as all of the data in all of the IMS and VSAM files has been converted. I think that only

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