The Perl Conference

2001-04-20 Thread dcross - David Cross
Mentioned this briefly last night... Registration has opened for this year's Perl conference in San Diego. Full details at http://conferences.oreilly.com/perl5/. Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named

RE: Mutagenic modules: online slides

2001-04-20 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 11:37 AM On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Robin Houston wrote: You want to take arbitrary languages, and execute them as if they were Perl. I want to take Perl and execute it as if it were an arbitrary language :-) Here be dragons.

Next Social Meeting

2001-04-20 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:54 PM Um, just to make this not a one-liner: davorg, are you going to post the decision of the emergency meeting meeting? There was a decision? Oh, wait. I remember. I'll be out of the country at the end of next week so I

JOB: Anyone still looking?

2001-04-19 Thread dcross - David Cross
I got this from someone called Raphael Mankin [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I don't really know how he fits into the picture :( Perl progger required to work in Golders Green. Permanent/contract as you will. Tasks: 1. To nursemaid a new, Mason based, web app through its initial period 2. To maintain

RE: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-19 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:58 AM On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:29:03AM +0100, Jon Galliers wrote: I know you're all probably bored with this, but I was even more bored and checked out the site further (Although "Chris"'s website

RE: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-19 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Ian Brayshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:19 AM Dave Cantrell wrote: Hmmm ... if 'not working at all' is the same as 'not bad'. All I get is the title image. Got to love badly formed HTML (probably a missing /table tag or two). ... And I thought he was an

RE: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-19 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:34 AM Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remember the Liz Castro BBS that I was talking about a few weeks ago. Simon mentioned that a couple of the natives were getting restless and seemed uncomfortable with me

JOB: Another one (Banking)

2001-04-19 Thread dcross - David Cross
This is for people who don't have a problem working in a bank. Note: It's MSB, so normal caveats apply. Dave... = Dave, The following is a full spec, Please distribute as widely as possible as I am very keen to find the right candidate. Spec : Opportunity has

RE: JOB: Another one (Banking)

2001-04-19 Thread dcross - David Cross
Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:05 PM On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:53:09AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: This is for people who don't have a problem working in a bank. Would it be worth forking london-pm-jobs? We're creating a london.pm jobs database. Jo

RE: (Don't Laugh) Buying PGP

2001-04-19 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Rob Partington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 2:22 PM On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:03:33PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Obviously, from the bottom line this is a bit of a no-brainer. But this leaves us having to copy files over to a PC, unencrypt them, and copy

RE: Tech mtg - AAarrrgghh

2001-04-19 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:10 AM It's just occured to me that today is the day that I have to move all my belongings out of my desk and back home. That's about half a bookshelf, a complete change of clothes and a bottle of tequila (and that's

RE: next social meeting vs tube strike

2001-04-19 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Mike Wyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 4:40 PM Camels are quite hard to see at London Zoo at the moment, owing to the foot 'n mouth situation. I was there a couple of weeks back, and the heffalump house was shut. The penguins ain't bad, though. Ooh. Thanks. I think

RE: What time tonight ?

2001-04-19 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Simon Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 5:38 PM What time is the technical meeting starting tonight ? oh. um. well. let's say 7:00pm. how does that sound? -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the

RE: Tech mtg?

2001-04-18 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Robin Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 2:25 PM Do we yet know if there's going to be a data projector for the tech meeting? If not, will there be _any_ kind of mechanism for showing things to people? (OHP, blackboard, whatever) Richard had volunteered to go and

RE: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Mike Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:30 PM CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. Why would that bother us? Remember, we're all Willow fans here. Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for

RE: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 5:39 PM Mike Jarvis wrote: CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. Who's he? Is he that Wesley bloke that I haven't seen yet? Nah. He's a nobody who's been dating SMG for a while. Apparently they're going to

Beginners Guide

2001-04-17 Thread dcross - David Cross
I'm painfully aware that not everyone on this list has the same amount of experience and knowledge and that therefore some discussions may well go over the head of some of the newbies. It's therefore nice to be able to find ways to help out beginners. For that reason, I'm happy to point out the

Errors Building HTML::Parser on AIX

2001-04-17 Thread dcross - David Cross
Sorry to drag the list off-topic, but I've a Perl question! I'm having trouble building HTML::Parser on an AIX box. It's the first time I've tried to build and install an XS module, so it's quite possible that it's a wider issue. The 'make' seems to go ok, but when I run 'make test' I get the

RE: Errors Building HTML::Parser on AIX

2001-04-17 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 2:26 PM On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 02:12:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: I'm having trouble building HTML::Parser on an AIX box. It's the first time I've tried to build and install an XS module, so it's quite

Technical Meeting Agenda

2001-04-12 Thread dcross - David Cross
Here's the agenda(!) for the technical meeting on 19th April (a week today) at State 51. Committee Reports: T-Shirt Committee Server Committee Canel Visitation Committee Lightning Talks: Not Matt's Scripts/TT Views - Mark Why Perl Advocacy is Bad - Dave Talks: "101 fun things to do with

NY Invasion

2001-04-12 Thread dcross - David Cross
Those of you embarking on the invasion of New York in a couple of weeks time will no doubt be pleased to know that I've established contact with the leader of the New York Perl Mongers (one David H Adler) and we've tentatively pencilled in Thursday 26th April as a good date for us to show them

RE: Technical Meeting Agenda

2001-04-12 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:20 AM On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 10:15:13AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Committee Reports: Canel Visitation Committee ^ God we're going down market... ;) You didn't think I'd actually have anything to report

RE: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-09

2001-04-11 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 1:00 PM The social meeting last week was a lot of fun, if a little crazy. However, we really need to start organising the meetings (hey, even Lonix is more organised!), as it was too loud and crowded: Not sure I like the

RE: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-09

2001-04-11 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 2:39 PM dcross - David Cross sent the following bits through the ether: Not sure I like the idea of 'organised' social meetings. Sounds a bit too 'SPUG' to me. However, I'm quite happy to listen to any alternative

TPJ Reborn

2001-04-11 Thread dcross - David Cross
Excellent news from Jon Orwant at http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/11/1533244 Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not

RE: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-10 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 9:17 AM Dave Cross wrote: I understood that you had delegated the actual work to someone else. Can you ensure that your vice-chair is able to speak in your place. Umm. Ok. Somebody give me the designs and I'll

RE: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-10 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Robert Shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:19 AM might be nice to have status reports from: * The t-shirt committee What is the design that you have agreed on? I will probably want one. There are five. So you'll probably want somewhere between one and five

RE: Disclaimer

2001-04-10 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Robert Shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:28 AM From: "David Cantrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 09:58:41AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Anything I release always has the following copyright a

Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-09 Thread dcross - David Cross
If anyone doesn't know (or has forgotten), there will be a technical meeting on Thursday 19th April. It will be at State 51[1] and we'll start at about 7pm. Details on how to get to State 51 will appear on the web site... er... soon. Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing

RE: the 2nd best london.pm meeting of all time

2001-04-06 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 April 2001 10:00 I nominate last night as the 2nd best social meeting of all time, just behind the TVR train and toilet seat nicking of a previous meeting. It _was_ a lot of fun. Thanks everyone for coming. The stolen wine by the thames at 1am

RE: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-05 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Janet Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2001 10:15 Dean: Ah the one at the uni near Angel tube. Those weren't w4r3z d00dz they were far far worse... Students ;) Dean, it happens to the best of us. =) Happened to some of us for a bloody long time. Dave... [seven years a

Linux.com Online Chat

2001-04-04 Thread dcross - David Cross
Well, it's on their website, so it must be official. http://www.linux.com/live/calendar.phtml?item_id=30 Event: "Author Talks" Series - Data Munging with Perl Tue Apr 17th, 2001 (12:00 pm US/Pacific) Location: #live on irc.openprojects.net We will have Dave Cross, the author of Data Munging

Books

2001-04-04 Thread dcross - David Cross
Wanderering around Charing Cross Road last night I picked up a couple of new Perl books, "Writing CGI Applications with Perl" by Kevin Meltzer Brent Michalski and "Instant Perl Modules" by Doug Sparling and Frank Wiles. Hopefully I'll have both of them with me on Thursday so anyone interested

RE: Linux.com Online Chat

2001-04-04 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2001 09:32 On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:20:25AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Tell all your friends. No heckling. Does that mean we can heckle but they can't? :-) That would be "Tell all your friends, no heckling."

RE: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)

2001-04-04 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2001 10:17 On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Funnily, enough, no. I was born in 1974, I've never been taught english grammar and I know of nobody who has. It's actually quite annoying as Me too, ('74

RE: Question

2001-04-04 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2001 10:32 I guess 3 months experience in Perl programming would mean working for a newmedia agency... ITYM "working for a newmedia agency would give you three months experience in Perl programming (before it goes bust). HTH, HAND. Dave...

RE: Linux.com Online Chat

2001-04-04 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2001 10:46 On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: Tue Apr 17th, 2001 (12:00 pm US/Pacific) In english? 8pm Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use

RE: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)

2001-04-04 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Matthew Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2001 12:24 I had to unlearn the reading I knew before I went to school in favour of some stupid phonetic system (anyone remember ITA?) Nope, never heard of it. I learned to read proper english, as did everyone else I know who was

RE: Social Meeting

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 08:04 * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At 20:57 02/04/2001, you wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 08:35:13PM +0100, Marty Pauley wrote: On Thu Mar 29 03:13:59 2001, Dave Cross wrote: Can someone product a set of

RE: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 13:56 So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive? Where do I start? * L Ron Hubbard is on record as saying the best way to make money is to start a religion. A few years later he founded the church of scientology.

RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 15:29 How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and

RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 16:48 dcross - David Cross wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into ^^^ Hmmm. Do the words "

RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 16:53 * Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: dcross - David Cross wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle

RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Lucy McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 16:40 On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Dean wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out I'll come if we can have marshmallows ;) Mmm. I shall bring Mr

RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Rob Partington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 17:24 In message D3AF8264E04FD311A18200508B12B1D5037C84AA@SRVLON20, dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave... [thing are getting strange, i'm starting to worry...] Should I call Mulder and Scully? Was trying

RE: when are we going to see the caaaamels

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: jo walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 16:15 can we go now that it is spring? some sunday afternoon soon? davorg? can we davorg? Er... yes... I suppose so. /me makes a mental note to work out who is entitled to camel tickets. I anyone thinks they owe for a slice, plesae let me

RE: Buffy

2001-04-02 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 April 2001 09:50 Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robin Szemeti sent the following bits through the ether: was there not a recent thread regarding a module on CPAN and someone said somehting along the lines of ' we need review of

RE: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-21 Thread dcross - David Cross
On 2001, 21, Mar, Wed, Cross, Dave wrote: At Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:19:57 + (GMT), Mark Fowler wrote: One of my collegues asked me about Perl training courses in the U.K. As far as I can see, none of the scheduled courses in the UK are much cop. What do you need? If

RE: ActiveState Awards

2001-02-26 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Elaine -HFB- Ashton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 February 2001 14:23 Dave Cross [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: * *The page for voting is at http://www.activestate.com/Awards/. Wow, it's a good thing there aren't any women nominated...someone could get hurt with those 'trophies'.

DMP Availability

2001-02-22 Thread dcross - David Cross
(this is dangerously close to spam, but I know there's a certain amount of interest here :) Just spoke to the local distributors about the availability of DMP in Europe. Here are the bullet points: * There are currently 100 copies in Europe. * Another (larger) shipment from Manning ended up in

RE: DMP Availability

2001-02-22 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Michael Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 February 2001 10:46 On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 10:34:06AM -, dcross - David Cross wrote: * There are currently 100 copies in Europe. * Another (larger) shipment from Manning ended up in Singapore somehow! They will return at some point

Amazon (was: RE: DMP Availability)

2001-02-22 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Robert Shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 February 2001 11:59 I want to buy a book "Code" by Charles Petzold. streetsonline - not available whsmith 12.45 + 2.74 = 15.19 delivery 1-2 weeks bol.com 12.59 + 2.95 = 15.54 delivery 3-7 days pcbooks 13.99 + 3.50 = 17.49 next day delivery

RE: Class::DBI + job posting

2001-02-22 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 February 2001 14:38 * Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Any suggestions please send my way or talk to me this evening. is there a meeting this evening? This is a troll, right? You wouldn't really waste the list's time asking

RE: Class::DBI + job posting

2001-02-22 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 February 2001 13:46 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greg McCarroll is there a meeting this evening? http://penderel.state51.co.uk/ AKA http://london.pm.org (probably easier

RE: DMP

2001-02-20 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 February 2001 11:01 * at 20/02 10:35 + Mark Fowler said: Micheal claimed that: amazon uk have started shipping data munging with perl. I have my copy. Indeed they have. I've got mine now. They're also shipping the mod_perl

RE: apologies

2001-01-18 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2001 11:05 I have Deep Purple at the Montreux jazz festival 2000... ;-) That all sounds a bit Spinal Tap. "We hope you like our new direction" :) Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is

RE: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2001 11:42 What sort of hourly/daily rate does an average PM perl programmer get anyway? Anything from 30 upwards to the sky depending on the client. And the programmer. And the task. Sounds a tad low to me. I've never contracted

RE: apologies

2001-01-18 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2001 13:46 Dave Cross wrote: OK. So we're now a speaker down. Anyone want to save the day by stepping in to give a 20 min talk - or do I have to talk about Symbol::Approx::Sub _again_? I could give a talk on either Flash stuff

RE: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Peter Corlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2001 13:12 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Nah, mailman on penderel - you know you want to! ;-) Yeah, we want our own mailing list server. Mmph, it's not that hard to install Majordomo is it? If need be, just give me the

RE: From whence cometh www.fnord.demon.co.uk?

2001-01-11 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2001 13:57 Is anyone here responsible for www.fnord.demon.co.uk, or know someone who is? I used to hang around with the MTCP groupies, but haven't spoken to any of them for some time. You might get more information from the

RE: Manning Tk book

2001-01-10 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: DJ Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 January 2001 14:33 On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 07:47:27PM -, Dean S Wilson wrote: Was anyone on list involved in the beta reading of this one? http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=1884777937 If so did it look

RE: Books

2001-01-08 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2001 14:53 David Hodgkinson wrote: Kieran Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And anyway, computing by publisher is getting a lot better. You just browse O'Reilly, Addison Wesley and Prentice Hall. Heretic. Manning publish

RE: Stuff

2001-01-05 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Barbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2001 16:17 D'oh! Still suffering the jetlag of the train home last night and getting 3 hours sleep (well that's my excuse). So Dave do you need me to send this to dave [at] dave.org now? Nope. It's already gone there (and to another 150

RE: JOB: At A Very Well-Known Company

2001-01-04 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Piers Cawley Sent: 04 January 2001 09:37 [stuff about a job at Ft.com (oops! promised I'd keep the client's name a secret :) Thought that sounded familiar, they phoned me about it. But want references before they'll put me up for an interview and I'm damned if I'm going to give 'em

RE: FOOD

2001-01-04 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Simon Batistoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 January 2001 12:21 Are you all mad? Wendy's. Obviously. Dave... They're dead and gone. All their locations in London are now McD's. But this is terrible news. When did it happen? Actually it happened once before. There were loads

RE: Books

2001-01-04 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 January 2001 14:50 * at 04/01 13:26 + David Hodgkinson said: It took me three bookshops on Charing Cross Road to get a perl library together for the guys I'm working with, but I managed it without having to go into Foyle's. Yeah!

RE: Fwd: SPUG: ActivePerl 623

2001-01-02 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Simon Wistow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 January 2001 17:26 Simon Wistow wrote: Mark Fowler wrote: Right, that's it. I'm going to have to compile a list of films 6. Hudson Hawk. # ditto 7. UHF And, how can I forget 8. Buffy the Vampire Slayer