Re: [MBZ] Torque for delivery valve holder
Peter Frederick wrote: 25 ft/lbs twice, then 30 ft/lbs. Leaks, however, are bad o-rings that need to be replaced. Get new internal copper seals and do that at the same time. Peter What Peter said! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] w126 column stalk replacement
on 5/16/06 3:22 PM, Jim Cathey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My son attempted to do a chin-up on ours, so I had to replace it. Not as awful as it might appear to be, though I can't remember if I had to remove a connector shell or not to get it threaded through the column. (At times I have had to do this.) It looks to me like the connector shell has to be removed. If I am thinking correctly, you have to work from behind to undo the mounting screws, yes? (In other words, the screw heads face the firewall.) Cheers -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s Volvo: '87 245 (waiting for OM616 transplant) SAAB: '83 900T (waiting for a miracle)
[MBZ] 2006 Becker Mexico Radio
Ok, my jaw dropped just a little bit here, and I haven't seen anything in list about it. Thought someone would have seen this before, but just in case not take a look here for pics: http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=12924 Text from story: --- In-car radio specialists Becker have produced a 'Classic' Mexico radio that might look old-fashioned from the outside but is packed with modern hi-tech equipment. Behind the 1960s façade lies an 'infotainment' system that includes, navigation, telephone, radio and card reader. The Becker Mexico has a high-quality look with its chrome bezel rings and fine horizontal lines set against piano black lacquer. The 13-colour display hiding behind the retro-look front shows all the required functions and when in 'radio' mode a bright red pointer indicates the station. The working parts are carried over from the Becker 'Cascade Pro' model and as such include multi-language functions and a card reader that will take not only a telephone SIM card but also Compact Flash and SD cards for data and music files. The integrated Bluetooth function will give hands-free calling while the navigation can either be planned at home or office on a PC and downloaded onto a Compact Flash card or made directly on the unit via its own 2GB card that holds navigation data for 34 countries. Of course the Becker Mexico also plays music to a superlative standard of quality. It can take as a source a remote CD player, an iPod or direct from a Flash card. A graphic equaliser display is available. The Becker Mexico will be available in Germany from July 2006, at a price of around EURO 1500. For further information please visit www.becker.de. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
[MBZ] 90 350SDL F/S
Saw this while out today - 90 350SDL 249,000 miles, white/gray interior, new
head, oil changes at 3k all service records, AC serviced recently Asking
$6499, 804-334-3835
Located in Colonial Heights, Va. (just North of Petersburg.)
Paint looks good but could benefit from a buffing - white paint on bumpers
needs to be redone. Interior looks nice. No body problems that I noticed in
my quick look. Alloy wheels need a repaint - but overall the car looks
unmolested - no chrome wheels etc. Looks like a lot of car for the money -
unless there;s some undisclosed engine problems. Didn;t mention the
transmission condition.
NO affiliation - just happened to see it parked in a church parking lot. I
*might* be available to take a closer look - depends on timing needed. I'm
disabled and have bad days and good -- so I don;t always react quickly.
BTW, is this a rod bender engine? This must be near the end of W126
production, right?
Sincerely,
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Re: [MBZ] w126 column stalk replacement
It looks to me like the connector shell has to be removed. Sometimes, but not always. It's tight, taking the shell off really makes it easier, if you're positive you can get them all back right. If I am thinking correctly, you have to work from behind to undo the mounting screws, yes? (In other words, the screw heads face the firewall.) No, I think they face out. That end is easy, compared to the connector shell and liberating the underdash panels. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Tire Purchase
Their tires are also not of the same quality as what you would get at a real tire store/tirerack. James Jetton wrote: Johnny, I just purchased a set of Michelins for the Powerstroke at Wal-mart. Out the door price of $166.00 each, which included lifetime rotation and balance, tire disposal, taxes, etc for a set of 235/85/R16's. I normally limit my exposure to Wally World, but these prices were cheaper than anyone else. James Jetton 1987 300SDL 143k 1996 Ford F-250 Powerstroke 171k ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] w126 column stalk replacement
you have to remove the steering wheel. Steve MacSween wrote: The thread about 190 blinker issues reminds me that I have a similar problem on my 300sd, have a used switch sitting on my back seat, but I've been putting off trying to do it, having taken a look at what a *wonderful* job it promises to be. Any tips, apart from finding a trained octopus for the job? Tks -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 90 350SDL F/S
it's a 350SDL - it's a rodbender all right. and a new head is definitely
not curative.
On 5/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Saw this while out today - 90 350SDL 249,000 miles, white/gray interior,
new
head, oil changes at 3k all service records, AC serviced recently Asking
$6499, 804-334-3835
Located in Colonial Heights, Va. (just North of Petersburg.)
Paint looks good but could benefit from a buffing - white paint on bumpers
needs to be redone. Interior looks nice. No body problems that I noticed
in
my quick look. Alloy wheels need a repaint - but overall the car looks
unmolested - no chrome wheels etc. Looks like a lot of car for the money
-
unless there;s some undisclosed engine problems. Didn;t mention the
transmission condition.
NO affiliation - just happened to see it parked in a church parking
lot. I
*might* be available to take a closer look - depends on timing
needed. I'm
disabled and have bad days and good -- so I don;t always react quickly.
BTW, is this a rod bender engine? This must be near the end of W126
production, right?
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] Discount tires on-line
Since I don't want the wheels tightened with an impact wrench - I takes the wheels (all 4) off and take them to the shop for new tires. They don't have a clue which car they'er going on. Most will ask - so tell them one that takes the tires you're buying. On 5/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Discount Tires has a good selection and prices -- I have a question though - was in our local Costco and the guy there said they are only allowed to install the size specified by the manufacturer as the original size. I have to go back for something else but will stop in the tire dept and ask if that a store policy or a state mandate. Has anyone run into this? The www.discountire.com website offers several tire size options. Also, they seem to like Falken Tires - has anyone tried these? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Discount tires on-line
Ha! Excellent!
;-)
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message -
From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Discount tires on-line
Since I don't want the wheels tightened with an impact wrench - I
takes the wheels (all 4) off and take them to the shop for new tires.
They don't have a clue which car they'er going on. Most will ask - so
tell them one that takes the tires you're buying.
On 5/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Discount Tires has a good selection and prices -- I have a question
though -
was in our local Costco and the guy there said they are only allowed to
install the size specified by the manufacturer as the original size. I
have
to go back for something else but will stop in the tire dept and ask if
that
a store policy or a state mandate.
Has anyone run into this? The www.discountire.com website offers several
tire size options. Also, they seem to like Falken Tires - has anyone
tried
these?
--
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Norman, OK
The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives.
Sir Winston Churchill
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[MBZ] cruise control amps
I've been looking for my cruise control amp to send off to Jim Cathey, but can't find it. There was someone who recently advertised some on the list, but I can't find the email. Who was it? Thanks, Craig
Re: [MBZ] [MB] 300CE for sale/parts
Kaleb and trailer are on way:) Guess the tranny is going to be pretty sad too, however it is a two door and rust free so definatley worth putting a few dollars into. The doors alone would be worth 200. Then there is the fuel relay, steering box. Hendrik too far away for me to grab...plus another car would mean D.I.V.O.R.C.E - Original Message - From: Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:43 AM Subject: [MBZ] [MB] 300CE for sale/parts Anyone looking for a 300CE parts car or project? Got a call today offering an 88 for $1000. I went to look, knowing better. Dead battery, so I couldn't turn it over. Claimed the motor made a bang and started blowing black smoke - her explanation of what her mechanic told her was interpreted by me to mean, thrown rod. Oil cap wouldn't come off, entire engine bay filthy and unkempt. 142k on the clock, probably not real, at the very least its been abused for a while. Ran into something, needs headlight, bumper cover, pass fender and grill - hood looked good, grill would be acceptable but is dented. Interior is classic left outside for too long condition, complete with tears in leather. Paint overall is actually pretty good, could use a buffing out and good cleaning. Currently sitting under trees. Currently rust free. Car has 2k worth of wheels and tires on it - they don't come with it. I offered her $200, she said she'd think about it - I'd hardly driven away when she called me and said she'd take it. Sitting here thinking, I don't want to waste the time and money on it for parts or to fix up. The rear window is about as nice as I've seen one in a while though - none of that white milky delamination most have. Almost worth it for that. Car is in Knoxville, TN. I have no interest, financial or otherwise. Would probably do more that 200 on eBay, but I don't feel its worth the effort. Let me know. Mike ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 11/05/2006
Re: [MBZ] 2006 Becker Mexico Radio
Drool, droooll. On 5/16/06, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, my jaw dropped just a little bit here, and I haven't seen anything in list about it. Thought someone would have seen this before, but just in case not take a look here for pics: http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=12924 Text from story: --- In-car radio specialists Becker have produced a 'Classic' Mexico radio that might look old-fashioned from the outside but is packed with modern hi-tech equipment. Behind the 1960s façade lies an 'infotainment' system that includes, navigation, telephone, radio and card reader. The Becker Mexico has a high-quality look with its chrome bezel rings and fine horizontal lines set against piano black lacquer. The 13-colour display hiding behind the retro-look front shows all the required functions and when in 'radio' mode a bright red pointer indicates the station. The working parts are carried over from the Becker 'Cascade Pro' model and as such include multi-language functions and a card reader that will take not only a telephone SIM card but also Compact Flash and SD cards for data and music files. The integrated Bluetooth function will give hands-free calling while the navigation can either be planned at home or office on a PC and downloaded onto a Compact Flash card or made directly on the unit via its own 2GB card that holds navigation data for 34 countries. Of course the Becker Mexico also plays music to a superlative standard of quality. It can take as a source a remote CD player, an iPod or direct from a Flash card. A graphic equaliser display is available. The Becker Mexico will be available in Germany from July 2006, at a price of around EURO 1500. For further information please visit www.becker.de. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 87 300D turbo, 300k miles, having timing chain replaced, what else should I have done at same time?
Hello, I am at a mileage point on my 1997 300D turbo that I know I need to have the timing chain replaced (also, which other related parts to the chain?), and would like to know what other maintenance I should have done while the valve cover is off (valves, etc.). Also, do I need to have the injection pump, injectors serviced? Thanks, Richard Fine 1987 300D
Re: [MBZ] Adjusting ALDA
While browsing the site you suggested (
http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_injection/ ) I came across the
url http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_intake/ where there are
pages showing the EGR and what appears to be the elimination of the EGR.
Has the EGR actually been removed? Is this a procedure that should be
consider under what conditions?
Thanks -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message -
From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adjusting ALDA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've seen 2 methods for adjusting the ALDA - turning the set screw .5 to
1.5
turns or adding a shim.
Is there a preferred method? Why is one better than the other?
I need to adjust it and want to use the best method - I also plan to
check
the pressure hose and and banjo fitting.
Thanks - BTW, I hope to use the ALDA removal method shown at
http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_injection/ where the intake
manifold is left in place.
There is NO really correct way as Mercedes discourages any adjustment
in the field. Still they finally did publish a description in the late
'80s/early 90s (attached) and that might be considered preferred.
It CAN be done on an OM602.96 engine without pulling off the intake
manifold (it just looks impossible).
The screw adjustment (as outlined) is MUCH easier and minor adjustments
a quick and easy. Establishing the correct shim thickness is more of a
challenge.
Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Discount tires on-line
Never heard of that being a state mandate, more than likely a store policy for
liability reasons.
Haven't tried the Falkens, but I heard they are good tires. But beware of the
sporty treads they are a bit noisy
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL 108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue, 16 May 2006 23:05:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Discount tires on-line
Discount Tires has a good selection and prices -- I have a question though -
was in our local Costco and the guy there said they are only allowed to
install the size specified by the manufacturer as the original size. I have
to go back for something else but will stop in the tire dept and ask if that
a store policy or a state mandate.
Has anyone run into this? The www.discountire.com website offers several
tire size options. Also, they seem to like Falken Tires - has anyone tried
these?
Later --
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Discount tires on-line
DiscountTireDirect.com
They have all the name brands like Michelin, Pirelli, BF Goodrich etc.
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL 108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata
-Original Message-
From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Dicussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue, 16 May 2006 08:53:26 -0400
Subject: [MBZ] Discount tires on-line
I know many here have purchased tires on-line. Besides Tire Rack,
where is a good place to buy?
Thanks,
Johnny B.
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[MBZ] question for Kaleb re Biodiesel list
Hey Kaleb, is the traffic on the biodiesel list extremely low, or do I need to do something different to actually start receiving the posts? I have received none since getting the welcome to the list email. Actually I got one post from someone, and it was regarding a post that I had made. Other than that - nothing. I must not be doing something right. Brian
Re: [MBZ] cruise control amps
It was Jim Friesen Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 10:21 PM Subject: [MBZ] cruise control amps I've been looking for my cruise control amp to send off to Jim Cathey, but can't find it. There was someone who recently advertised some on the list, but I can't find the email. Who was it? Thanks, Craig
[MBZ] Question for Kaleb re Biodiesel list
Never mind. I got confirmation that all is normal. Thanks. Brian
[MBZ] Wires to radio
How many wires run to the back of the radio? I've got three hanging out of the hole that used to be where the radio lived, but the PO left vacant. I ask because the PO seemed to have a habit of screwing around with the wires in the thing, and I'm not sure what he did (or was trying to do). The cigarette lighter base is missing, along with the glove box light (the hole for which has a few wires running out of it with crude splicings of speaker wire onto them). So I'm hoping that the three wires that are hanging out of the radio hole are the three I'll need to hook up a radio. Sound right? Brian 83 240D
Re: [MBZ] cruise control amps/ I have a deal for you!
In a message dated 5/16/2006 8:22:12 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been looking for my cruise control amp to send off to Jim Cathey, but can't find it. There was someone who recently advertised some on the list, but I can't find the email. Who was it? Craig, I have a couple of 12 pins, one is for a stick shift. I have a couple 14 pins for the 81 and later up to about 87. If you want one for a core I quoted $30 and I would include priority mail. I just sold 4 of them. These are unopened and should be acceptable for cores. you could also try it and it might work! I have not tested these. Email me for PayPal or mailing address. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 142 K miles
Re: [MBZ] The wave
Ah. Interesting insight, Bruce. Interesting subject to me. I've seen school bus drivers wave to city bus drivers. I've known Harley riders not to wave at Jap bike riders (but other, more congenial Harley riders do - even to crotch rockets!). I can say that I often wave to other fellow commuters on bicycles - especially in the winter around here, when you truly have something in common with them (fortitude). Brian 83 240D On 5/16/06, B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan, Back in the 50s and 60s in when I was a youngster riding in my parents 219 and 250S, the standard Mercedes greeting in the U.S. was to give a couple beeps of the horn on the infrequent occasion when another Mercedes was sighted. The quaint custom died after the cars became more common. Bruce Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I drove home today I had a 190E coming the other way on the 2-way highway I travel. The thought occurred to me: The other types of vehicles that I have been into in my life have been sort of specialized, and as such, when you happen upon another one, you give a nod or a quick friendly gesture (as in the Mopar thumbs-up, or the Harley (or really any motorbike) nod or wave). As our Mercedes' flew past eachother, I felt the urge to give some sort of signal, so I just nodded slightly. Eh, maybe Merz isn't rare enough to do that. Maybe I should reserve it for 123s. I know that when I pass another classic 900 Saab when driving mine, I sometimes get an acknowledgement. I think I just may be an entirely too friendly person. Come to think of it, I know that bus drivers wave at eachother. What about semi-truck drivers? Probably too many of them on the road to do that. Brian 83 240D And other distinct vehicles in history ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' 73 220D 'It' - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Glove box latch adjust
Anyone know if the glove box latch (the part that receives) is adjustable? I think I just did adjust it, whether it was meant to be or not. The door was not closing tightly enough to have the side surface that the driver can see be nicely concealed. So I loosened the two screws and pushed the receiving part of the latch toward the front of the vehicle. Tested, then did it again. It helped noticeably. Brian 83 240D
Re: [MBZ] The wave
There is a reason Harley riders don't like ricers. Every couple of years some doctor or other gets the cotton wool out and wants to ban motorcycling because it it is dangerous and kills riders. Problem is one day some sort of politically correct government will listen and start to ban two wheeling. The vast majority of motorcyle only fatalities are young inexperienced riders on Jap bikes, this makes for good fodder for the local rag. Hendrik no riding for a long time now.still wondering how I managed to survive - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The wave I've known Harley riders not to wave at Jap bike riders (but other, more congenial Harley riders do - even to crotch rockets!).
Re: [MBZ] Wires to radio
Brian,
What a mess! Sounds similar to others I have seen.
Depending on the radio you use, and the condition of your current wiring,
you may be in for a bit of wiring. Hopefully, others will respond as well,
and we can compare notes.
The original Becker has two audio or speaker outputs: a left and a right.
The fader control located in the console divides these outputs between the
front and back. If you use an aftermarket radio, it is likely to have four
outputs: one for each speaker. So, you will need to take the fader out of
the system for best performance. Try to trace the wires from the back of the
fader to the original radio. The PO may have already doctored (or butchered)
these wires as well. Then you will need to identify the wires to each
speaker, cut them and wire them into the appropriate output on the
replacement radio. In most cases, you will find the low side of the speaker
cable pairs wired together near the fader control. When you install the
replacement radio, make sure you separate these, and each output should be
in independently wired.
The original Becker, being a mechanically tuned radio does not need a
constant power source for the memory, as a new replacement radio will
require. You will need to find a source. Use a trouble light or multi-meter
to find +12V with the keys removed. There is a source on the ignition switch
or light switch. Make sure you fuse this line. A better place is the wire to
the dome light. Avoid routing the constant voltage wire around the clock as
the coil in the clock can induce noise the radio will pick-up. I recently
assisted a friend with an upgrade in his W123 ('79 300D) and we found a red
wire that went to the dome light and spliced into that. The confusion factor
here is that the switched +12 volts currently going to the Becker is likely
to be a red wire also, and is controlled by the ignition switch, so it will
not work for the B+ (memory) requirement of the aftermarket radio.
Look around for a blue wire. The blue wire that plugs into the Becker is for
the power antenna, if your car is so equipped. The brown wire is the
ground. I suggest a separate ground to a fresh source. A poor ground is a
common problem with updated audio installs.
Wires to mechanical Beckers:
Blue: Antenna
Brown: Ground
Black: Switched 12 volts
Wires to electronic Beckers
Pin 1 - off-set Ground, Brown wire
Pin 2 - Ignition + 12 V Black wire
Pin 3 - Illumination + 12 V Gray wire
Pin 4 - Constant (memory) + 12 V Red wire
On my W123 and others I have worked on, the speaker pairs are as follows
(yours may be different):
Left Front White connector,
(+) Gray w/ red stripe
(-) Gray
Left RearWhite connector,
(+) Red/ black stripe
(-) Black
Right Front Black Connector,
(+) Green w/ black stripe
(-) Black
Right Rear Black Connector,
(+) Black w/green stripe
(-) Black
This is a lot of wiring, but done carefully and properly is worth your time.
When adding and splicing wires, I always solder the wires and cover the
splices with heat shrinkable tubing (available at Radio Shack). I believe
this is a better method than crimp on splice connectors (personal opinion).
Hope this is helpful,
Dan Steadman
1980 300D
1980 300TD Euro
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 01:06:09 -0500
From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Wires to radio
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How many wires run to the back of the radio? I've got three hanging out of
the hole that used to be where the radio lived, but the PO left vacant.
I ask because the PO seemed to have a habit of screwing around with the
wires in the thing, and I'm not sure what he did (or was trying to do). The
cigarette lighter base is missing, along with the glove box light (the hole
for which has a few wires running out of it with crude splicings of speaker
wire onto them).
So I'm hoping that the three wires that are hanging out of the radio hole
are the three I'll need to hook up a radio. Sound right?
Brian
83 240D
[MBZ] Rear brake part 2
Thanks for the help list. But even without the parking brake shoes the noise continues. I can hear the rubbing of the pads on the rotor and am more convinced that the rotor is the problem; it just seems too loose. Maybe wheel bolts are too long to give a tight fit, but I really snug them with a cheater bar. The basic sound at very low speed is the rotor flopping on the hub and at high speed a constant rubbing and the occasional bang. A warped rotor? Something in the brake hydraulics? I guess it's time to switch rotors as a test as I'm getting a bit tired of replacing parts with no effect. Thanks for the help . Neal
Re: [MBZ] Glove box latch adjust
Anyone know if the glove box latch (the part that receives) is adjustable? I think I just did adjust it, whether it was meant to be or not. Sounds like it is. That door is one of the worst features of the 123, it is often a mess. It doesn't seem to hold up well, and once the latch (in the door) stops working right nothing seems to bring it back. I've fiddled with these a _lot_. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Rear brake part 2
Neal, First note that back shock absorbers can make funny noises too. However if you believe the problem is with breaks here is a couple of things to try. #1 swap rotors with other side. #2 take brake caliper and compress it like you were putting on new pads. Then take a pair of needle nose vise grips and clamp off rubber brake line. This will disable the brake on that side. Note that this is not safe. Also note your car will pull to one when applying brakes. The first one will tell you of the problem is the rotor. The second one will tell you if the problem is in the brakes at all. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Kramarcy Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Rear brake part 2 Thanks for the help list. But even without the parking brake shoes the noise continues. I can hear the rubbing of the pads on the rotor and am more convinced that the rotor is the problem; it just seems too loose. Maybe wheel bolts are too long to give a tight fit, but I really snug them with a cheater bar. The basic sound at very low speed is the rotor flopping on the hub and at high speed a constant rubbing and the occasional bang. A warped rotor? Something in the brake hydraulics? I guess it's time to switch rotors as a test as I'm getting a bit tired of replacing parts with no effect. Thanks for the help . Neal ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Rear brake part 2
Thanks for the help Trampas. Trampas wrote: Neal, First note that back shock absorbers can make funny noises too. However if you believe the problem is with breaks here is a couple of things to try. #1 swap rotors with other side. #2 take brake caliper and compress it like you were putting on new pads. Then take a pair of needle nose vise grips and clamp off rubber brake line. This will disable the brake on that side. Note that this is not safe. Also note your car will pull to one when applying brakes. The first one will tell you of the problem is the rotor. The second one will tell you if the problem is in the brakes at all. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Kramarcy Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Rear brake part 2 Thanks for the help list. But even without the parking brake shoes the noise continues. I can hear the rubbing of the pads on the rotor and am more convinced that the rotor is the problem; it just seems too loose. Maybe wheel bolts are too long to give a tight fit, but I really snug them with a cheater bar. The basic sound at very low speed is the rotor flopping on the hub and at high speed a constant rubbing and the occasional bang. A warped rotor? Something in the brake hydraulics? I guess it's time to switch rotors as a test as I'm getting a bit tired of replacing parts with no effect. Thanks for the help . Neal ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Water pump revelation
Actually, a lot of your Mercedes was not manufactured by Mercedes. Here are the manufacturers of a few major components: Brake system - ATE or Bendix Cooling system - Behr Fuel system - Bosch Radio - Becker Climate Control - Behr These are just a few major systems that I can think of and every one of these manufactures have facilities around the world. In other words, a lot of your Mercedes parts were made in places other than Germany and many were made in Asia! Oh, and your OEM wheel bearings were made in Japan. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 2:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Water pump revelation Tonight as I parused the underhood of the 240D I was disappointingly surprised to find the word Japan embossed on my water pump. Not being racist, just thinking that this means that there is a cheap replacement water pump on the engine that I recently bought and had installed. Any word on whether this indicates that I have a McParts water pump - and whether this means that it is of supect quality? Brian 83 240D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Discount tires on-line
I was surprised and pleased that the Sam's Club Michelins I bought for EM were finished with a torque wrench. Don't know about other places as I have only bought there for years. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 275K with new and clear front and rear windshields. Almost 10 miles before the first rock hit the window. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Discount tires on-line Since I don't want the wheels tightened with an impact wrench - I takes the wheels (all 4) off and take them to the shop for new tires. They don't have a clue which car they'er going on. Most will ask - so tell them one that takes the tires you're buying. On 5/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Discount Tires has a good selection and prices -- I have a question though - was in our local Costco and the guy there said they are only allowed to install the size specified by the manufacturer as the original size. I have to go back for something else but will stop in the tire dept and ask if that a store policy or a state mandate. Has anyone run into this? The www.discountire.com website offers several tire size options. Also, they seem to like Falken Tires - has anyone tried these? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Rear brake part 2
I know this is strange. And for years I had no problems with the rear brakes or noise. This car had been used by my ex until last year and I rarely drove it unless to tend to a repair job. But in the last year, after the rotors were replaced, this noise appeared. Since I thought it a bad driveaxle and I was a bit short on cash and had a reliable 300TD for a daily driver, I parked the coupe. But once I started attending to the noise problem and replacing various parts, all with no effect, the rotor and /or bolts are my point of attack now. These are the original bundt pans (I labeled the inside of wheel since I sometimes swaped them around with the others). The rotor has the locating hole and I position it on the pin and snug everything down. One of the first times I heard the sound I pulled the wheed and found the brake pad pins loose and thought that was a possible source of the problem, but since then the pins are driven home and flush with the caliper. Last night I removed the parking shoes on the suspect wheel, so even if the bolts were too long there is nothing in there to rub. A few weeks ago one of my strategies was to compress the pads into the caliper before leaving in the morning and got a little bit of relief. My thinking was a faulty caliper with failed seals ( the caliper was the original and looked quite worn at the piston edges). Yet replacing the caliper changed nothing. I will check the perceived tightness of the wheel tonight after snugging the bolts. Maybe the bolts a loosening from the hub enough to give the problem, so I will switch bolts as a test. Neal Jim Cathey wrote: more convinced that the rotor is the problem; it just seems too loose. Maybe wheel bolts are too long to give a tight fit, but I really snug them with a cheater bar. This sounds totally strange. The rotor is one piece, and is supposed to be tightly pinned between the hub and the wheel by the bolts. I believe it has an extra sixth hole for a locator pin that's on the hub that has to be in the right rotor hole or you can't even put the wheel on. I don't see how the rotor could be loose at all without the wheel also being loose. Wheel bolts that are too long (such as alloy wheel bolts used on steel wheels) will protrude into the hub far enough to interfere with the parking brake mechanism. That's usually obvious, and bad! These _are_ the right wheels for the car, right? Stock alloys? -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] The wave
Been riding for years (24 of them actually) and have ridden with every type of rider there is from dual sport/motards to Rice rockets that went way too fast to Harley's , Beezers and Beemers. I have seen more stupid accidents that were the fault of the biker riding with the Harley type. Seems to be that a majority of that crowd likes to use the buy ya a beer at the next bar attitude for a reason to ride. Not good. Mike - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The wave Around here the fatalities are mostly inexperienced riders on a new harley (used to have more money than brains, Now they have neither) At 05:19 AM 5/17/2006, you wrote: There is a reason Harley riders don't like ricers. Every couple of years some doctor or other gets the cotton wool out and wants to ban motorcycling because it it is dangerous and kills riders. Problem is one day some sort of politically correct government will listen and start to ban two wheeling. The vast majority of motorcyle only fatalities are young inexperienced riders on Jap bikes, this makes for good fodder for the local rag. Hendrik no riding for a long time now.still wondering how I managed to survive - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The wave I've known Harley riders not to wave at Jap bike riders (but other, more congenial Harley riders do - even to crotch rockets!). ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] E320CDI Commercial
A friend sent me this film commercial on the E320CDI. It may be already old but is kind of cool. http://www.daimlerchryslertvmedia.com/www/projektseite.php?nav=40show=119/content.html Wait for the movie to load and turn on your sound. What a way to impress your teenager son.. Tan '82 240D '87 190DT '91 300D
Re: [MBZ] Discount tires on-line
I bought Yokohama tires for my LandCruiser at Tire Rack(good prices, no sales tax) and had them installed at a new Super WalMart(new balancing machines) with lifetime balance and rotation for $7.95/tire(I think they have since stopped doing this for tires not purchased at WM) and watched through the window as the tech used a torque wrench to tighten the lug bolts. Peter Ferguson 1983 300TD - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Discount tires on-line I was surprised and pleased that the Sam's Club Michelins I bought for EM were finished with a torque wrench. Don't know about other places as I have only bought there for years. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 275K with new and clear front and rear windshields. Almost 10 miles before the first rock hit the window. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Discount tires on-line Since I don't want the wheels tightened with an impact wrench - I takes the wheels (all 4) off and take them to the shop for new tires. They don't have a clue which car they'er going on. Most will ask - so tell them one that takes the tires you're buying. On 5/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Discount Tires has a good selection and prices -- I have a question though - was in our local Costco and the guy there said they are only allowed to install the size specified by the manufacturer as the original size. I have to go back for something else but will stop in the tire dept and ask if that a store policy or a state mandate. Has anyone run into this? The www.discountire.com website offers several tire size options. Also, they seem to like Falken Tires - has anyone tried these? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 5/15/2006
Re: [MBZ] The wave
As a long time Beemer rider, I have concluded that testosterone, alcohol, night riding and deer cause most bike fatalities. Peter Ferguson 1983 300TD - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The wave Been riding for years (24 of them actually) and have ridden with every type of rider there is from dual sport/motards to Rice rockets that went way too fast to Harley's , Beezers and Beemers. I have seen more stupid accidents that were the fault of the biker riding with the Harley type. Seems to be that a majority of that crowd likes to use the buy ya a beer at the next bar attitude for a reason to ride. Not good. Mike - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The wave Around here the fatalities are mostly inexperienced riders on a new harley (used to have more money than brains, Now they have neither) At 05:19 AM 5/17/2006, you wrote: There is a reason Harley riders don't like ricers. Every couple of years some doctor or other gets the cotton wool out and wants to ban motorcycling because it it is dangerous and kills riders. Problem is one day some sort of politically correct government will listen and start to ban two wheeling. The vast majority of motorcyle only fatalities are young inexperienced riders on Jap bikes, this makes for good fodder for the local rag. Hendrik no riding for a long time now.still wondering how I managed to survive - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The wave I've known Harley riders not to wave at Jap bike riders (but other, more congenial Harley riders do - even to crotch rockets!). ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 5/15/2006
[MBZ] Diesel injector return hose
I've noticed that the return hose for the OM615/6/7's and the OM606's appears to have the same ID, maybe a little thicker wall, and the cotton covering is a different color.. maybe a little tighter on the OM606 stuff... Does anyone know what the difference is? Is the new stuff made of viton versus Buna/Nitrile/Normal rubber? (I recall reading that Mercedes switched to biodiesel resistant hoses in the 90's.. I'd think a 99 would use it) Can the new stuff be used on the older engines? (I'm temporarily using the old stuff on a newer engine because my lines were leaking badly, and I had the Old stuff around (~190mi/day)) Rusty says that the old stuff is 9.50/meter, where the new stuff is 4.00/meter. John Reames 1999 E300Dt (his, 122,122 miles--see photo) 1985 300Dt (hers, 220k miles) 1984 300SD (Rip/bent, almost 200k miles) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 23190 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20060517/06008e07/attachment.jpg
Re: [MBZ] E320CDI Commercial
what is the button he presses towards the end? change the differential gearing...some sort of super over-drive? Chris Tan Qu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend sent me this film commercial on the E320CDI. It may be already old but is kind of cool. http://www.daimlerchryslertvmedia.com/www/projektseite.php?nav=40show=119/content.html Wait for the movie to load and turn on your sound. What a way to impress your teenager son.. Tan '82 240D '87 190DT '91 300D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 245K km, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 343K km, Wulf -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger Mercedes Dieselauto - Leistung wird mit dem Kilometerzähler gemessen. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 17 13:57:14 2006 Received: from web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.38]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FgMWX-0008FA-Ky for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 17 May 2006 13:57:14 + Received: (qmail 95823 invoked by uid 60001); 17 May 2006 13:57:02 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pgQLjVslCzAT1mgoOyECW8KQIorJf7+dBjD1R9gg+YbkO5CwlNT4VidTFb3aBgYCnoxZdzwj/6fyvM6T5UVplI13mk9ztb4334Fayd2HgrHDnN/Cus+BkROldV4mE1bH0HAKj3KlUpfAFWfIwDqUIps8COUI00NN5bX3a7snBEA= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2006 06:57:02 PDT Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 06:57:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The wave X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:57:18 - I ride a Honda CB900F which has a full fairing and the only people who ever don't wave at me are Harley riders. My wife's bike is a Kawi 454LTD and the Harley guys always wave. Interestingly I was gassing up the Kawi one day and a Harley guy (late model fatboy) came over and complimented my Harley. He was of course ignoring the Kawi badging on the sidecovers (the tank is custom with no badging) the inline twin motor and the big radiator upfront. Eh whatever... He did give me a funny look when I fired it up and took off, being liquid cooled it is very very quiet. -Curt Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 02:36:12 -0500 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] The wave To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ah. Interesting insight, Bruce. Interesting subject to me. I've seen school bus drivers wave to city bus drivers. I've known Harley riders not to wave at Jap bike riders (but other, more congenial Harley riders do - even to crotch rockets!). I can say that I often wave to other fellow commuters on bicycles - especially in the winter around here, when you truly have something in common with them (fortitude). Brian 83 240D - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 17 14:03:49 2006 Received: from web32815.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.45]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FgMcp-ek-Ir for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 17 May 2006 14:03:45 + Received: (qmail 27457 invoked by uid 60001); 17 May 2006 14:03:40 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding;
Re: [MBZ] E320CDI Commercial
No idea. Looked at some of the interior pictures of E320CDI's on Ebay but did not see that button. Tan --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the button he presses towards the end? change the differential gearing...some sort of super over-drive? Chris Tan Qu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend sent me this film commercial on the E320CDI. It may be already old but is kind of cool. http://www.daimlerchryslertvmedia.com/www/projektseite.php?nav=40show=119/content.html Wait for the movie to load and turn on your sound. What a way to impress your teenager son.. Tan '82 240D '87 190DT '91 300D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 245K km, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 343K km, Wulf -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger Mercedes Dieselauto - Leistung wird mit dem Kilometerzähler gemessen. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Rear brake part 2
In a message dated 5/17/2006 4:53:53 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for the help list. But even without the parking brake shoes the noise continues. I can hear the rubbing of the pads on the rotor and am more convinced that the rotor is the problem; it just seems too loose. Maybe wheel bolts are too long to give a tight fit, but I really snug them with a cheater bar. The basic sound at very low speed is the rotor flopping on the hub and at high speed a constant rubbing and the occasional bang. A warped rotor? Something in the brake hydraulics? I guess it's time to switch rotors as a test as I'm getting a bit tired of replacing parts with no effect. Thanks for the help . Neal, If the rotor is loose, maybe the studs have too much shoulder and you are running out of threads before the rotor tightens. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 142 K miles
Re: [MBZ] question for Kaleb re Biodiesel list
Its one of those slow lists. It will generate traffic every so often. That is why I dont have a bunch of little specialized lists like mbz.org was. People have complained about having too much traffic with one combined list like this but the alternative is hardly any traffic at all. I do have the specialized lists though for the biodiesel, SL, and older MB vets cars though. I also though you were posting on banned and responded in banned fashion when in fact it was biodiesel. My mistake. Zoltan Finks wrote: Hey Kaleb, is the traffic on the biodiesel list extremely low, or do I need to do something different to actually start receiving the posts? I have received none since getting the welcome to the list email. Actually I got one post from someone, and it was regarding a post that I had made. Other than that - nothing. I must not be doing something right. Brian ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Rear brake part 2
after the rotors were replaced, this noise appeared. Well, just reading the above I'd say you have defective rotors, or the wrong ones. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] E320CDI Commercial
I noticed it said C/S, I'm guessing it was Comfort/Sport ? This URL seems to confirm this. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Followup/articleId=102283 -- Original message -- From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] what is the button he presses towards the end? change the differential gearing...some sort of super over-drive?
Re: [MBZ] Water pump revelation
Zoltan Finks wrote: Tonight as I parused the underhood of the 240D I was disappointingly surprised to find the word Japan embossed on my water pump. Not being racist, just thinking that this means that there is a cheap replacement water pump on the engine that I recently bought and had installed. Any word on whether this indicates that I have a McParts water pump - and whether this means that it is of supect quality? A Mercedes pump WILL have a star on it. Lots of pumps without stars work just fine. Some don't. You can worry about it if you choose to. Does the engine overheat? If not, there's nothing to worry about. If it does overheat, you need to fix that! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D turbo, 300k miles, having timing chain replaced, what else should I have done at same time?
RICHARD FIne wrote: Hello, I am at a mileage point on my 1997 300D turbo that I know I need to have = the timing chain replaced (also, which other related parts to the chain?), = and would like to know what other maintenance I should have done while the = valve cover is off (valves, etc.). Also, do I need to have the injection pu= mp, injectors serviced? Why are you replacing the timing chain? Does it measure in excess of 4 = degrees stretch. I figure that the chains in my cars will last to = 500-700kmi at their current rate of wear. If the chain IS worn, change = the chain tensioner as well. I've attached the chain measurement TSB (the stretch limit is 4 degrees = rather than the 3 degrees cited in the TSB). The chain is unlikely to = break until stretch approaches 8-10 degrees!! Marshall -- = Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 = 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OM60x_Timing_Chain_TSB.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 71721 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20060= 517/35fc6d23/OM60x_Timing_Chain_TSB.pdf
Re: [MBZ] E320CDI Commercial
perfect - thanks. I had NO idea it was so peppy. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed it said C/S, I'm guessing it was Comfort/Sport ? This URL seems to confirm this. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Followup/articleId=102283 -- Original message -- From: Christopher McCann what is the button he presses towards the end? change the differential gearing...some sort of super over-drive? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 245K km, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 343K km, Wulf -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger Mercedes Dieselauto - Leistung wird mit dem Kilometerzähler gemessen. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 17 16:27:55 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FgOsN-0001Bo-KJ for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 17 May 2006 16:27:55 + Received: from rmailcenter73.comcast.net ([204.127.197.155](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id 20060517162751m120047clve; Wed, 17 May 2006 16:27:51 + Received: from [208.27.111.119] by rmailcenter73.comcast.net; Wed, 17 May 2006 16:27:50 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 16:27:50 + Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: ATT Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: andyZWFtZXNAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] E320CDI Commercial X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 16:27:55 - I've not driven one of them, but I know firsthand how *fun* a E300D-t is to drive :):) If you EVER get the chance to buy one, don't hesitate! You will want to have the front upper spring perches checked, as well as the doors under the gaskets (keep an eye on them)... as well as the usual OM60x IP seal issues. (I understand that GP's can be a MAJOR hassle. When mine go, if they are stuck, I will pony up, then make sure to pull them and antisieze them... as well as an annual pulling/reaming of them as a prophylactic measure. BTW does anyone know the part number/price of an OM606 GP reamer? (The plugs are about 7 long IIRC, which really presents an opportunity for carbon to pack in there... Also, does HARD driving and lots of highway mileage help burn out any carbon which may have accumulated in there? The traction control DOES tend to kick in a bit much for my tastes (and it seems to kick in way early)... did they put ESP on the 210.025's or were they ASR only? I've definitely had to tone down my use of the pedal, as it behaves VERY differently from my (retired) 126.120 did... You can drive it like you stole it, but you need to disable ASR and I'm sure its hard on tires (chirp chirp).. The ONLY thing I would complain about is that the truck nozzle at the place where I fuel will ALMOST fit in the neck properly... if it had maybe 1/4 more clearance in the neck It would be good. (60gpm nozzle is sweet!) (although the slow nozzle is still 25gpm...) John Reames E300TD (99/122kmi) / 300D (85/220+kmi) -- Original message -- From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] perfect - thanks. I had NO idea it was so peppy. Chris
Re: [MBZ] Wires to radio
on 5/17/06 2:06 AM, Zoltan Finks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ask because the PO seemed to have a habit of screwing around with the wires in the thing, and I'm not sure what he did (or was trying to do). The cigarette lighter base is missing, along with the glove box light (the hole for which has a few wires running out of it with crude splicings of speaker wire onto them). So I'm hoping that the three wires that are hanging out of the radio hole are the three I'll need to hook up a radio. Sound right? Nooo, you will need more than that. Grabbing the cig lighter power is a standard indicator of someone being in there doing an install who didn't know their posterior from a golf green, so get a flashlight and start looking at what's up with the wires inside the dash. However as stereos do use two power sources (one unswitched for the display/clock/antenna, one switched for the main unit functions), if you are insanely lucky he may have just used the lighter and glove box power hot wires and maybe the actual stereo harness hasn't been messed with. Too much. I just HATE it when guys do half-wit stereo installs, then deliver the coup de grace by destroying everything when they rip the unit out. -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s Volvo: '87 245 (waiting for OM616 transplant) SAAB: '83 900T (waiting for a miracle)
Re: [MBZ] The wave
Phew! Good stuff! Lots of perspectives. That was truly funny that that Harley rider mistook the Kawi for one. It's like how? In terms of mistaking, it's getting harder to tell a Harley from a Euro bike because they have been trying to hard to emulate (though this may be dying back now). But some of the Japanese bike makers have actually de-designed their engines, going to a pushrod config. just to achieve that Harley sound. Sometimes they actually fool me audibly from a distance these days. Yes, deer are a big worry. On my way to work one morning at about 4 a.m. two ran across the highway. I stuck to my policy of braking as hard as I safely could as soon as I ever saw a deer by the road. This is what saved me that morning. They both froze right in my lane, and I was able to bring er to a stop so close that I could see the texture of their fur in my headlight. The thing is, that swerving either direction could put you right in their path if they don't freeze. That's why my policy was to brake hard and hold my line. And yes, I am glad that I no longer ride. I thank God I was able to remain uninjured for the years that I rode, and I was actually, in a way, thankful when my Sportster got stolen. It would've needed some work soon anyway. The only problem was that it was my only form of trasportation aside from a bicycle. And I had no insurance. Again, can't complain though. Brian 83 240D 92 Sportster Deluxe On 5/17/06, lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Years back, a friend of the family bought a harley, confident that all he had do to was get on it and ride (he had ridden bicycles, after all, and he read the manual and knew what the levers and pedals did.) is first and only ride lasted about half a block, ended with him dumping the bike and being dragged by it for a fair distance. There aint no cure for stupid, but that cured his harley fever, once and for all. With any bike, you have the same basics - several hundred pounds of metal, ridden by a couple of hundred pounds of unenclosed, unprotected flesh and bone, capable of high speed, with the area of rubber touching the road no larger than the sole of a single tennis shoe. There are only two kinds of biker, those who have parted ways with their bike at speed, and those who eventually will if they keep riding. It is an enlightening experience if you survive it. Lee On Wednesday 17 May 2006 6:35, Loren Faeth wrote: Around here the fatalities are mostly inexperienced riders on a new harley (used to have more money than brains, Now they have neither) At 05:19 AM 5/17/2006, you wrote: There is a reason Harley riders don't like ricers. Every couple of years some doctor or other gets the cotton wool out and wants to ban motorcycling because it it is dangerous and kills riders. Problem is one day some sort of politically correct government will listen and start to ban two wheeling. The vast majority of motorcyle only fatalities are young inexperienced riders on Jap bikes, this makes for good fodder for the local rag. Hendrik no riding for a long time now.still wondering how I managed to survive - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The wave I've known Harley riders not to wave at Jap bike riders (but other, more congenial Harley riders do - even to crotch rockets!). ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Glove box latch adjust
You're right, I've wasted valuable bandwidth and keyboard wear-and-tear. Actually, it didn't feel like it was adjustable, rather it felt like I forced it. So just wondering out of my sense of curiosity. Brian 83 240D Marshall wrote: You have adjusted the latch! What's the question? Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Torque for delivery valve holder
Many thanks Peter. Do you have a part number or source for the copper seals? Thanks, Bruce Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 25 ft/lbs twice, then 30 ft/lbs. Leaks, however, are bad o-rings that need to be replaced. Get new internal copper seals and do that at the same time. Peter ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' 73 220D 'It' - Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 17 19:27:48 2006 Received: from web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.66]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FgRgR-000379-JL for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:27:48 + Received: (qmail 43602 invoked by uid 60001); 17 May 2006 19:27:41 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4nVi0RfA7XARA0Zaa5iEmH7ixNNGbrVXPQBnqLuaX3ugxlKjtmydZxO4+HpR75cDYIUyR22cqh2t5knzABW+omuEwwkVPwjdO+z3FDVWJ9rYjVCv1915IUwmKtw2PX/LX6ei85f3S4w0CWGm3tbhwkIQbypZCudLB+ypnELMTmQ= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [67.52.19.222] by web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2006 12:27:41 PDT Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 12:27:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: [MBZ] 87 300TD torque, horsepower and weight specs X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 19:27:48 - Anyone have this on hand or know where I can find it? Thanks, Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 245K km, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 343K km, Wulf -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger Mercedes Dieselauto - Leistung wird mit dem Kilometerzähler gemessen. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 17 19:33:37 2006 Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com ([66.249.82.200]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FgRm5-0003xp-8S for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:33:37 + Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id s14so228697wxc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 17 May 2006 12:33:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KTm5qwId15Yu/sKUsieZs6aUE41086O66PNkYj80rKuVBsRBW+Ybr0yeDapiUpCYlKkdr8X00Rv8d/TnVW7mCvC0EbD61Un/78xNykl7NfsrD1noCE87Yglmhh8P23P74bOrlVQYoc14E0LISt0VkV5OpHil7odoa//ANFS4J7U= Received: by 10.70.99.5 with SMTP id w5mr1607494wxb; Wed, 17 May 2006 12:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.16.10 with HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2006 12:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 12:33:34 -0700 From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD torque, horsepower and weight specs X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD torque, horsepower and weight specs
lustig! :-) Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nicht genug On 5/17/06, Christopher McCann wrote: Anyone have this on hand or know where I can find it? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (214k) '84 300D (212k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 245K km, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 343K km, Wulf -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger Mercedes Dieselauto - Leistung wird mit dem Kilometerzähler gemessen. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 17 19:56:40 2006 Received: from mout.perfora.net ([217.160.230.41]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FgS8O-0006N1-Mn for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:56:40 + Received: from [172.19.56.75] (helo=pustefix133.perfora.net) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrelayus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKoyl-1FgS8L0ggc-0008Da; Wed, 17 May 2006 15:56:38 -0400 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Binford: 6100 (more power) X-Mailer: Webmail X-Originating-From: 31369297 X-Routing: US X-Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Received: from pustefix133.perfora.net by 70.182.105.226 with HTTP id 31369297 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 17 May 2006 15:56:36 EDT Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 15:56:37 -0400 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] jumper cables X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 19:56:41 - 20' 4 gauge. $10, sound like a deal? -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] Torque for delivery valve holder
7x 603 078 01 41 (Injection pipe clips) 7x 601 078 26 41 (Injection pipe shims--trim them on one side) 2x 601 078 26 41 (Injection pipe clips) 1x 606 141 01 80 (Intake manifold gasket) 6x 017 997 41 48 (Bosch 1-460-210-321 O-ring, you may want spares) 6x 004 997 45 40 (Bosch 1-410-105-021 Copper seal washer) This was for a 606, but the orings and seals are the same on 601,2,3 At 02:20 PM 5/17/2006, you wrote: Many thanks Peter. Do you have a part number or source for the copper seals? Thanks, Bruce Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 25 ft/lbs twice, then 30 ft/lbs. Leaks, however, are bad o-rings that need to be replaced. Get new internal copper seals and do that at the same time. Peter ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' 73 220D 'It' - Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] The wave
There are only two kinds of biker, those who have parted ways with their bike at speed, and those who eventually will if they keep riding. I love that when I got my bike it seemed like everybody needed to tell me this. As if all of a sudden I was going to say Holy crap, you mean I could fall off and get hurt? Damn, get this bike away from me. For petes sake I ride BECAUSE of the ever present threat of disaster. The feeling of exposure and frankly because it scares the crap out of me and I like getting off the bike knowing I've conquered my fear and transported myself safely. The only reason I see for ever falling off my bike is gross unpredictable mechanical failure (undetectable hardening of a metal part that suddenly fails or a nail in a tire or some such) or getting hit by somebody else or caught in a case where I can't help hitting somebody, OR if I finally get around to buying a real sportbike and put in track time where I'm severely pushing the envelope. In either case since I'm always armored while riding, attempting to expect the unexpected which is another thing I like about riding. -Curt - Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Yahoo! Messenger with Voice From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 17 21:00:36 2006 Received: from web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.34]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FgT7w-0004Xb-NW for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:00:26 + Received: (qmail 91831 invoked by uid 60001); 17 May 2006 21:00:10 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Je4S4IM0O9Wk63Xq995XxsKr0gwunYNcvrzvuNSXokBgWnZHr5laCqW2XzHdaMGVHGZMiEo61dWN/pnDaJx8Gf6syXMkL7ctWUzkCHfQxulswXsQ/BVnEbjE/56nYGC5dl2jRw5zjhUgUdUlmd+6ynoqd/Ew0SmydmMzFlDWP9A= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2006 14:00:10 PDT Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 14:00:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The wave X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 21:00:41 - The Kawi does look somewhat like a small Sportster http://flmltuweb1.business.latrobe.edu.au/faculty/sinman/ltd_vs_corvette.htm I expect the guy wasn't a real Harley guy. A real Harley guy would have wondered why the hell I was wearing a Kevlar Joe Rocket coat and pants and a full face helmet never mind having a liquid cooled engine with the cylinders in the wrong configuration... -Curt Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:33:10 -0500 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] The wave To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Phew! Good stuff! Lots of perspectives. That was truly funny that that Harley rider mistook the Kawi for one. It's like how? In terms of mistaking, it's getting harder to tell a Harley from a Euro bike because they have been trying to hard to emulate (though this may be dying back now). But some of the Japanese bike makers have actually de-designed their engines, going to a pushrod config. just to achieve that Harley sound. Sometimes they actually fool me audibly from a distance these days. Brian 83 240D 92 Sportster Deluxe - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 17 21:03:36 2006 Received: from web52709.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.48.232]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FgTB9-0004fu-CN for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:03:36 + Received: (qmail 11774 invoked by uid 60001); 17 May 2006 21:03:22 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding;
Re: [MBZ] The wave
SO...what is the bike riding season in Maine? About 3 weeks? (har de har har) Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The wave There are only two kinds of biker, those who have parted ways with their bike at speed, and those who eventually will if they keep riding. I love that when I got my bike it seemed like everybody needed to tell me this. As if all of a sudden I was going to say Holy crap, you mean I could fall off and get hurt? Damn, get this bike away from me. For petes sake I ride BECAUSE of the ever present threat of disaster. The feeling of exposure and frankly because it scares the crap out of me and I like getting off the bike knowing I've conquered my fear and transported myself safely. The only reason I see for ever falling off my bike is gross unpredictable mechanical failure (undetectable hardening of a metal part that suddenly fails or a nail in a tire or some such) or getting hit by somebody else or caught in a case where I can't help hitting somebody, OR if I finally get around to buying a real sportbike and put in track time where I'm severely pushing the envelope. In either case since I'm always armored while riding, attempting to expect the unexpected which is another thing I like about riding. -Curt - Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Yahoo! Messenger with Voice ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] The wave
You had more sophisticated advisors than did I--I was simply advised that there's two kinds of bikers, them that's been down, and them that's goin'. Forty three years later, I'm still riding, but more cautiously every year, and have yet to become the second kind of biker. I spent February on a rented Beemer in Western Australia and had one of the best rides yet--for me, the risk is worth the experience. It's not for everybody. Peter Ferguson 1983 300TD There are only two kinds of biker, those who have parted ways with their bike at speed, and those who eventually will if they keep riding. I love that when I got my bike it seemed like everybody needed to tell me this.
Re: [MBZ] The wave
Tell us more Did you write it up for BMW(MOA) news? At 04:11 PM 5/17/2006, you wrote: I spent February on a rented Beemer in Western Australia and had one of the best rides yet--for me, the risk is worth the experience.
Re: [MBZ] cruise control amp
did nothing but switch the rear fog light bulb and the brake light bulb. Neither was burned out. Cruise now works at all speeds. WTF? On 5/16/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 14 pins Sunil Hari wrote: Anyone know offhand if my CC amp in my 92 300D is of the 12-pin variety? If not 12 pins, how many is it? I haven't had time to extract the unit. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Jumper Cables
I absolutely agree with Richard. Anything less than 2/0 cable is not adequate for diesels, especially if the starters or batteries are not 100 percent--which they are not if you are using jumpers. BTDT Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Hattaway Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jumper Cables Diesels like to consume big amps. Did a study once that found John Deere starters (made by whoever???) required 450A during the start cycle of a new engine ( we built portable air compressors ). Detroit Diesel and Deutz were in the 300A range while stroking their associated engines, a 3 cyl in the Deutz case and a 6V92T on the Jimmy. Wow. So make sure the cable is BIG. I use what looks like 2/0 flex welding cable, and is no more than 10 feet long. #4 is pretty puny for Mercedes applications IMO. Richard K4PKV --- Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 20' 4 gauge. $10, sound like a deal? -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] cruise control amp
did nothing but switch the rear fog light bulb and the brake light bulb. Neither was burned out. Cruise now works at all speeds. WTF? Corrosion in the socket causing intermittent contact. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] cruise control amp
Sunil Hari wrote: did nothing but switch the rear fog light bulb and the brake light bulb. Neither was burned out. Cruise now works at all speeds. WTF? Old cruise controls do that. They can become intermittent. Sometimes using them daily improves reliably and sometimes not (but they USUALLY act up again following a period of disuse). They will often work for an hour or two and then quit or they may not work until the engine is REALLY warmed up. Resolding by someone with really good soldering skills corrects these ABOUT 50% of the time (if you don't have really well developed soldering skills DON'T practice on a cruise amp). Some units really require replacement of the electrolytic capacitors or even transistors. Schematics are very scarce - Mercedes doesn't supply them to anyone. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] Diesel injector return hose
FWIW, I finally got tired of monkeying around with stock return lines that never seemed to last more than a year with bio, and splurged for the viton stuff. Ordered 10 feet from this site for $3.22/ft. http://www.mcmaster.com/asp/enter.asp?partnum=5119K111+ Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (214k) '84 300D (212k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
