on 10/23/06 2:48 PM, Jeff Zedic at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Once again I have to ask, Why are these cars not here?
Not that it matters to me anymore as I'm moving to the UK and will soon
have my pick of all the wonderful diesels there!!
If it's not too personal, what part of the Big Smoke
on 10/23/06 9:16 AM, Michael Hall at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or the underlying belief by many on
this list that he [Marshall, no Kaleb] was essentially God, which must get
boring after a while [as apposed to Kaleb, who thinks he's God but most
people don't agree, so he's entertained trying
Jim Cathey wrote:
On-topic (sort of), it has five gears. Can't see much point to fifth,
though. It may be that the gear ratios are wrong for this
engine/differential combination. (I kept the original diff, the one
that went with the tranny is still on the parts car.)
I'm not entirely sure
Mitch Haley wrote:
Here's a Marshall quote for you:
Well, here's another one:
The manual 201.029 (190E 2.6 manual, US version) had a 3.27 rear (at
least in the late '80s - I don't have data on '90s 201s). Other 201s
with manual 5 speed transmissions had 3.07, 3.23 and
4 bundt cake wheels. Good condition. Nice paint. No damage. Make offer.
Brian, the antifreeze debate was nearly as feisty as the oil debate on
this list. But a friend who owned a Saab dealership for 30+ years told
me that he saw loads of them needing head gaskets- and almost every time
they had the green stuff. I'm a cheap ass and I payed for the stuff
when I
Brian, where are you? I have 2 gallons of the Saab antifreeze left from
my Saab days. Fat chance you're in the NE.
John Peterson
Zoltan Finks wrote:
Okay, that gives me a shock, because I just asked recently whether or not
the green stuff will be okay in my 84 Saab 900, and the answer came
If Rusty doesn't, I had very good luck with eeuroparts.com
Only if Rusty doesn't
John Peterson
Sunil Hari wrote:
Rusty, you carry Saab parts? Specifically, for a 1988 Saab 900S? If not
you, who?
I'll probably start out in the slums of Shepperton or Egham just outside
of town but still easily accessible. I've about had enough of big city
life for now but perhaps not having so much stuff will change my mind
on that. Have a girlfriend in East Acton that may work into something
more
What is the point this list? I was under the impression that it was to
disseminate information about Mercedes. So when some one says something
that is blatantly wrong, those of us who recognize the error are supposed to
sit by and watch? Steve asked why 2 of his 123's start in second, and 1
It will run on any version reader, but only from ieflashck.html and - thank
you - matrix.html.
It will not let me print only with AR 5.0. It auto-runs just fine on my
laptop.
I guess it's winders, like Jim said, too much of it. Time to do the annual
eradication and start over with a clean slate.
I'm in need of the Saab coolant! Anyone? Help?
On 10/23/06, John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian, where are you? I have 2 gallons of the Saab antifreeze left from
my Saab days. Fat chance you're in the NE.
John Peterson
Zoltan Finks wrote:
Okay, that gives me a shock, because I
didn't jimmy buffett write a song about a guy doing something like this?
On 10/23/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll probably start out in the slums of Shepperton or Egham just outside
of town but still easily accessible. I've about had enough of big city
life for now but perhaps not
http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/224694420.html
--
Sunil Hari
1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
513-205-7474
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Well heck, I was just hearing on the radio today how the prius I think
is rated at 48mpg city, and 30 something highway. Also, take into
account there is no official govt testing to rate hybrids so they go by
what the car maker tells them.
Are you sure about that?
Levi Smith wrote:
Weird, I must have been lucky. Mine were no problem at all and I definitely
used more than finger pressure to tighten them...
I suspect mine were corroded down to little necks or something.
that the giants are a really good football team?
or is more proof necessary?
Right - it does not specify the gears in a neat table - but if you
look at page 41 -- yes, I quoted from that same manual:
I'll quote from page 41 of the factory original owners manual (not a
copy or reprint) from my last 1976 300D (115 chassis, pre turbo), part
no. 115 584 12 97 -
D Drive. All
Remember - I quoted from the manual for 115 chassis 300D, 1975 to 1976
- no turbo.
The alldata pages did not differenciate enough between variations to
be useful. For instance, it did not differenciate between the three
speed early 107 cars ('72 to '80) and the later four speed cars ('81
to
The data is for a particular set of years. I never said it was good for 107
cars, I said it was good for an 83 300CD. All data, at least my version,
doesn't go back before 82. I did say, TWICE, that early 4.5L V8's had 3
speeds.
Why is everyone so insistant that I'm wrong?
Mike
On 10/23/06,
Perhaps no one is reading everything in detail - we're all responding
to bits, not the whole. I read the alldata sheet by scanning to what I
know on it, the 107, but didn't read the date range.
It's also time to move on ---
On 10/23/06, Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The data is for a
I asked the folks on the MBCA forum about the issue and got a RTFM from
Marshall. Anybody want to give better data?
Idle is rough and I would like to know what to do to adjust it so that
it idles smoother. With all the knowledge around here, somebody must
know what I can do
--
Clay
With my new-to-me 1988 Saab 900S, I'll be needing the Bentley book, radiator
hoses, clamps, oil, air, and fuel (?) filters, etc. Know anyone who got rid
of an old Saab 900 and has extra parts lying around?
--
Sunil Hari
1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
513-205-7474
There are no trans manuals, they are on microfiche. That info is also
in the training tapes, which I happen to own.
Luther wrote:
Neither the 123 or 126 manuals say anything about first or second gear start.
http://mb.braingears.com/123_DISK2/program/OM/OM-50.pdf
This thread is officially over. Its has gone beyond the point of who is
right and who is wrong. It has now come down to personal attacks by
certain folks against others. Personal attacks are NOT tolerated at
all. Everyone knows the difference between a kidding now and then and
attacking a
on 10/23/06 8:09 PM, Jeff Zedic at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looking forward to having Paris 90 minutes away for those weekends with
nothing to do!!
You CAD, you ;-).
Did you know they have a single-day return special on the Chunnel Train,
when I was there (more than a few years back, I have
Ahhh, the coats machine is so nice to have around :)
Harry Watkins wrote:
Welcome to the big show Fred. I have the HF machine and its all you say it
is (or is not) but I still get a lot of satisfaction through doing it myself
instead of wondering what was done at the tire shop. I am confused
I went to Venice for $275!!
Hello fellow MB enthusiasts.
I found an ad for a fixer 78 or 79 300D (it says both in the ad).
Supposedly, it slips when shifting from second to third. The guy bought it
thinking it was an easy fix with the vacuum modulation, but since it was a
722.118 tranny, he can't fix it because it
I was about to say there is no such thing as lame Saab stuff, but then I saw
you are driving a 900. Need to move back a couple of decades and get a 2
cycle Saab tank. Four speed on the column, grasping for 35 mph as you shift
into 4th. Ah, those were the good old days.
On 10/23/06, Sunil Hari
35mph in 4th? Sheesh, was this the 40's? :)
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:29:03 -0500, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was about to say there is no such thing as lame Saab stuff, but then I saw
you are driving a 900. Need to move back a couple of decades and get a 2
cycle Saab tank. Four speed
damn, it's addicting.
--
Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case?
'83 300SD (241 kmi)
'82 300CD (162 kmi)
'82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work
'85 300D (280,176) parts car
the Habbah Freight manual machine is a poor fit. The bead
breaker is a joke, ...I will NOT be buying one!
I'm holding out for a Coats. My current bead breaker was
made by Mercedes: the Unimog! (OK, technically probably
by HIAB or FOCO, since it's part of the crane package.)
I can mount tires
35mph in 4th? Sheesh, was this the 40's? :)
Maybe those were Imperial miles per hour? :-)
-- Jim
I'm not entirely sure what's on the parts car (the parts car is a 2.3,
isn't
it?) but I think the 2.5 auto came with a 3.07, same as my 300SD. Does
your
It's a 1984 190D 2.2, formerly with stickshift. The driver (and its
differential) is a 1986 190D 2.5, formerly with an automatic.
car do
In a message dated 10/22/2006 7:36:10 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Need help finding a climate control relay. Looking for the electronic
switching unit for blower control. See the *.pdf on disk 2 of 123 83-600a
page
9 or the attached *.jpg.
Luther,
I
Kaleb,
Rub it in a little whydoncha?
Coatless in Lynn
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel's in my blud. (and you can see where most of it gets in!)
At 11:21 PM 10/23/2006, you wrote:
Ahhh, the coats machine is so nice to have around :)
Harry Watkins wrote:
Hey!
Don't knock those old two strokes. I had a 96 Monte Carlo and it
would spin tyres in first and second topping out at about 80mph, not
bad for 850cc 3 cyl. Also had a 95 wagon, died when I hit a city bus
in the snow one winter. The 96 rusted in half.
Fred Moir
MBZ Diesel worshipper and
Jim Cathey wrote:
Below about 1500 RPM the car's a pig, and gets very buzzy.
I'm guessing that the timer is not in action at that speed.
Most of the timers seem to hit full advance somewhere around
2000 rpm, I wouldn't want to cruise below 2200.
hahahahahahaha, sorry
Frederick W Moir wrote:
Kaleb,
Rub it in a little whydoncha?
Coatless in Lynn
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel's in my blud. (and you can see where most of it gets in!)
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL,
87 300SDL #2, 85
*sigh* Did you read your own message?
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:16:26 -0400
From: Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kettle, pot, black, this is getting old real quick
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID:
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Oh, I have no problem with Mercedes but I have friends family who have
sworn to never buy another because the lowest service (including brakes)
they paid was $550.00. I understand that Mercedes does a great job that
regular service is the key but that does not keep them from buying a Lexus
the
I tried to really pay attention today, at 55mph in 4th I'm at about 2600-2700.
As Mitch said 5th is of no use at that speed unless you're going downhill with
a tailwind.
70mph in 5th is about 3000. The engine does seem happiest around 2500-3000.
No low end grunt at all, I usually wind it out a
The 79 240D we rescued from the rust demon / crusher is having trouble
coping with the suddenly cold Pa fall. Specifically, it's not starting
well. Last weekend my son and I adjusted the valves and I think we
improved things a bit there. Last night I turned my attention back to the
glow plug
On 10/24/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just because you say it doesn't make it right comes to mind. Adults
usually back up their position
with facts and other documentation.
I'm actually the only one who attempted to do so, only to be told my facts
and documentation isn't good
Mike, what is the name of your dad's shop and where is it? I might know
him.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Hall
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:18 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kettle, pot, black, this is
Jarek's Car Service in Knoxville - we buy most of our parts from GAP in
Atlanta - no doubt you've heard of them.
Mike
On 10/24/06, Rusty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike, what is the name of your dad's shop and where is it? I might know
him.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So aside from that, what makes you think you know anything?
--R (a former Beaver -- sec tan cos sin 3.14159)
Michael Hall wrote:
On 10/24/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just because you say it doesn't make it right comes to mind. Adults
usually back up their position
with
Yeah, I worked for them as sales manager from 1976 till 1985. We have a
less than amicable relationship. Not many folks still there from when I
was, but the owner, Mrs. Shelton has a real long memory. Oh well. I have
never heard of Jarek's, when did he open up?
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From:
I am just guessing here, but if the EGR is active, you may have a lot of sud
built up in the intake/resonator manifold.
It is fairly easy to pull the intake pipe which will reveil the condition.
On 10/23/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I asked the folks on the MBCA forum about the issue
I agree with Frederick, these were great cars. My mom drove a 1965 model 96
from 67 to 81. At that time, it was parked due to my dad's inability to
aquire some brake parts (no internet).
My Dad and Grandfather co-owned a Saab dealership in Albuquerque in 67 or
so, and my dad aquired the 65 on
Sud? or Soot?
Intake body was cleaned recently with the change in glowplugs last
spring. Fresh bypass hoses this summer and no buildup seen in four
months time. Could I have put the intake thingy on wrong?
On Oct 24, 2006, at 9:31 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote:
I am just guessing here, but if
No way! I didn't know (or remember) that Rusty sold Saab parts.
That's great - will be our first source.
Brian
On 10/24/06, Rusty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.BuyEUROparts.com is Rusty's site for Saab parts.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electrically, I should be able to just daisy chain the wires from one plug
to the next, but that's probably less than optimum. Any idea where I might
source some nice, pre-crimped, stranded cables?
...Kevin
LT Don said:
You just need the plugs, not the whole kit. Get the four plugs from Rusty,
Started in ~93, our house was built with a 4 car garage to go full time in
'97
Then our neighbor hood got upset by the constant flow on MB's in and out of
the neighborhoof, so he bought a 3 bay garage in ~99, in 02 we demolished
the old garage and built a modern 4 bay facilty, then expanded to 6
you are pretty smart for being such a dope. how you manage that?
On 10/24/06, Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/24/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just because you say it doesn't make it right comes to mind. Adults
usually back up their position
with facts and other
Back in my day we would have hooked up a push button. Then told him push the
button in, count to 10 then start.
Trampas
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kevin J. Slater
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:43 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Currently I have found the best option is to take car to tire store.
Actually I have found that the local Mercedes dealer is the best place to
get alignment and tires balanced, other local shops have just screwed things
up.
Trampas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 10/24/06, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you are pretty smart for being such a dope. how you manage that?
A mixture of hard work and repressed anger.
So Curt, what are YOUR qualifications?
And on a more serious but hopefully less tempremental subject, what are the
qualifications of the other people on this list?
On 10/24/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You have to tell us your qualifications.
Mike
Not to get into this discussion or keep it going. Wouldn't it be easier to ask
Mercedes the question about their transmissions instead of arguing about who
was right? Maybe even refer to a manual of some sort to see whats what?
Regarding the who's car starts in what gear, I recall Mercedes
We also have http://www.BuyASIANparts.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 1:17 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Source for Saab Parts
No way! I didn't know (or remember)
Qualifications include owning and driving an 84 300CD, 83 300SD and an
86 300SDL which all started in 1st gear after resting in 2nd when
stopped.
All my gasoline engined MB's started in 2nd gear except my 85 380SL
which started in 1st gear and the owners manual verified that, which
blows holes
Look like a real nice clean shop, congrats.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Hall
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 1:43 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kettle, pot, black, this is getting old real quick
Started in
i once went to MIT, but security took me out quickly.
do you sing rocky top in the shower?
On 10/24/06, Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/24/06, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you are pretty smart for being such a dope. how you manage that?
A mixture of hard work and
My only qualifications are that I have been selling Mercedes parts to
Dealers, garages and DIY'ers since September of 1976. I have a pretty
good darned idea of the whole parts thing after 30 years. Not that I
don't make mistakes mind you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lexus ain't saving anybody any money when it comes to service. My wife
took her RX330 in for a wash and they noticed it was time for an oil
change. $140 later, they hade changed the oil and looked over a few
other things. Mercedes charges more than that? Told my wife I'd do it
for half that from
I went to Venice for $275!!.
From Mestre?
RLE
i don't make mistakes
On 10/24/06, Rusty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My only qualifications are that I have been selling Mercedes parts to
Dealers, garages and DIY'ers since September of 1976. I have a pretty
good darned idea of the whole parts thing after 30 years. Not that I
don't make mistakes
my qualifications are that i'm really really fat, obnoxious, play online
poker. mess with guns, um, and other odds and ends. i recently got a
macintosh computer and enjoy messing with that.
this doesn't qualify me for much, so i'm doomed to spend my days at bimby.
do you sing rocky top in the
Brains and personality have a pre-allocated space in your brain. The more
brains you get, the less personality you get. Less brains (to a point) and
more personality. Ever met a genius? Dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to
simple things like operating a 20 year old VCR.
--
Luther
On 10/24/06, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
do you sing rocky top in the shower?
At least once day.
Mike
I was going to buy this old car to swap the engine into the 1973 220D that I
had. The guy wanted $500 for it and wouldn't go down to $300. Today, I
spotted it on CL once again, but now he only wants $75! If he would have
only taken my first offer, he could have gotten nearly 7 times his
Or maybe he toasted the motor in between?
Mac
on 10/24/06 3:49 PM, kevin kraly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was going to buy this old car to swap the engine into the 1973 220D that I
had. The guy wanted $500 for it and wouldn't go down to $300. Today, I
spotted it on CL once again, but
I've got a '82 240D with no reverse. Have tightened the band but still
doesn't work. Showing 151,285 miles but suspect higher. Black with decent
paint but drivers fender and door look to be repainted. Manual windows.
Runs great in forward gears. Would like to get $500 but will consider any
Could be a good deal but the beige color is IMHO totally blecchh.
On 10/23/06, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/224694420.html
--
Sunil Hari
1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
513-205-7474
___
I don't root for either team but especially dislike the Cowboys. Watching
them LOSE on MNF- even to the Giants - was immensely gratifying.
On 10/23/06, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that the giants are a really good football team?
or is more proof necessary?
You, my friend, need to work on your people skills. You have rapidly created
several enemies and many potential ones by flaunting your
know-it-all-never-wrong attitude around here. You have dropped
sarcasm many a
time that was uncalled for, and frankly, it's very a$$ like. Cool off and
maybe
who? me or the other idiot?
On 10/24/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You, my friend, need to work on your people skills. You have rapidly
created
several enemies and many potential ones by flaunting your
know-it-all-never-wrong attitude around here. You have dropped
sarcasm many a
i farm all that sort of work out to my 9 year old
On 10/24/06, Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds like you'd be great with a 20 year old VCR.
On 10/24/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brains and personality have a pre-allocated space in your brain. The
more
brains you get,
So its okay for you to insult my personality, but not for me to respond
regarding your intelligence? Interesting, especially given the correlation
between the two that you brought up. Which, I'm sure, is based on
scientific fact.
I've been wrong many many many times in my life. I freely admit
T'was a typo. In fact I ment it to be more like I don't care about your
qualifications. In fact it still says that if you can read it with my
inflection.
As I've said consistantly I don't care about the arguement, I prefer manual
shift cars anyway. It
was your tone I took issue with. Now
Geewhillikers I could get happily lost among all those loose 123 parts!!
Hey Michael - my son's 300D is stuck with four slashed tires. Do you have
four used ones (w or w/o rims) in the 195 (or 205) X 70 size? Let me know
off-list if so. Shipping zip code would be 20723
On 10/24/06,
Hey all...
I'm taking the Marshall Plan and am outta' this until the topics
become more MB related and non-personal.. Been fun for lots
of years, but it ain't now!!!
Bye for now and if anyone wants to get in touch, I'm available at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have a good
LISTEN HERE, I WAS NEUTRAL IN THIS MESS UNTIL NOW. YOU WILL BE ASSUMED TO BE
WRONG BY EVERYONE ON THE LIST UNTIL YOU PROVIDE PROOF DIRECTLY FROM MERCEDES
THAT PROVES YOUR POINT. THANK YOU, DRIVE THROUGH.
--
Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case?
'83 300SD (241 kmi)
'82
Anyone live near Everett WA and can inspect a 200D for me?
Regards Tom Scordato
1979 240D
Glad that you've been ordained to speak for the list - perhaps all further
list emails should be sent directly to you. There are actually plenty of
people of who agree with me on this list, some have even gone so far as to
tell me as much off-list.
On a serious note, which part of that that
Here is some update about my buddy's '79 450SL that had a bad tranny.
(BTW you are all my friends but you are all jerks too, right wrong and
everything in-between at all times!) (guns, Bush, what oil to use?)
(there, that ought to start about 500 flame threads and debates on
various topics!)
No, from London!!
Sunil Hari wrote:
didn't jimmy buffett write a song about a guy doing something like this?
Changes in latitude, changes in attitude??
,Newer Japanese cars will go much longer -- a friend of mine had 120,000
miles on his Avalon before it got T-boned and totaled and still had the
original
brake pads!
That's excellent and I'll bet it still had the original and contaminated
brake fluid. Most if not all Avalon drivers are one
Anyone live in Everett WA who could look at a car for me?
Regards Tom Scordato
1979 240D
My wife has an Avalon. You should ride with her some time if you think Avalon
owners are ready for the home.
Remember to hang on!
Randy
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 4:42 PM
To:
Bob,
I will think of guys like you any time I'm feeling bad about missing my
train to Paris and having to wait 30 minutes for the next one.
Was on the phone today for two hours to my girlfiend there...we can't
wait to start exploring all the short hop trips there! Ahhh, freedom!
I'll
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