Re: [MBZ] O.T. Computer Trauma/Stuff Running in Background

2008-05-05 Thread Luther
I've used it, and still do.  It's a good program. 

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'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast
'82 300CD (176 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine



Quoting Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I seem to remember once going to something like msconfig or something like
 that and seeing a list of all the stuff that should be running in the
 background and being amazed at all the crap that was running. I vaguely
 remember deselecting stuff and performance improved. 

 Can anyone tell me how to get to that list and what I should have running
 and how to get rid of the crap?

 Pretty cool little program to download at the bottom of the page. 

 http://www.komando.com/downloads/category.aspx?id=1256

 Caveats,
 YMMV
 My 2ยข
 Rick Knoble
 '85 300 CD
 '87 190 DT



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Re: [MBZ] OT, IE problems continued - backup system

2008-05-05 Thread Bill R
As a testament to what Don said, a few years ago I asked a friend who worked
at Publix [major Florida based grocery chain] about the new building going
up a the back of an area near where he worked.  He said an internal study
showed that a computer system failure would most likely cause the company
and it's hundreds of stores to end up bankrupt.  They were constructing a
fully redundant system in a separate location.  The more you need a computer
system the more you need good protection and backup.
BillR
Formerly living in Lakeland FL, headquarters of Publix.

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On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, IE problems continued

Never rely on only one computer --- if you're business depends on it,
you need a spare.

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Something is locking it up when it tries to connect.  Yes, have tried it
  with zone alarm turned off.  Now, firefox is also locking up when trying
  to connect. Usually you have to restart it several times and it will
  finally work.  Now, I have not got it to work yet.  I have spent over 2
  h ours just trying to upload some ebay listings and ship 2 packages.
  This is not good


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Re: [MBZ] OT, IE problems continued

2008-05-05 Thread Luther
Dude, quit F!n with it, buy that new harddrive that you're drooling over, and
load everything from scratch.  MANY less headaches that way 

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'87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast
'82 300CD (176 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine



Quoting Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Something is locking it up when it tries to connect.  Yes, have tried it
 with zone alarm turned off.  Now, firefox is also locking up when trying
 to connect. Usually you have to restart it several times and it will
 finally work.  Now, I have not got it to work yet.  I have spent over 2
 h ours just trying to upload some ebay listings and ship 2 packages. 
 This is not good




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Re: [MBZ] OT, IE problems continued

2008-05-05 Thread Luther
Sounds like life in DIY MB repair. 

-- 
Luther   KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast
'82 300CD (176 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine



Quoting OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Never rely on only one computer --- if you're business depends on it,
 you need a spare. 





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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread Bill R
Tom, you hit on 'the dark side' of much of the recycle and green movement.
My first real kick in the seat on this came from an engineer friend who had
to deal with land use issues.  His comment was that prior to the recycle
push when you put stuff into a landfill most of it stayed there.  After so
many items started to be made biodegradable suddenly runoff became a major
problem as these items don't necessarily breakdown into pleasant stuff for
drinking water.  I don't suppose we who drive ancient MB's need to be talked
at too much about the problem of a 'throw away society', but it does need to
be preached loud and long.
BillR 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

Yep, the truth is coming out. Bio Diesel is causing a serious third world
food shortage.

Wait till they figure out the real impact that Ethanol production has on the
world. We are already experiencing record food inflation, partly due to
higher oil prices but more directly related to the fact that so much corn is
going to Ethanol!

Then there's the long term impact of compact florescent bulbs. Every one
contains a bit of mercury. I don't know about you but I throw mine out when
they burn out and I bet that 99% of the county does the same. So, do mercury
tainted landfills appeal to you?

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:56 PM
To: mercedes
Subject: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/dannywestneat/2004391337_danny04.html

Danny Westneat

Seattle Times staff columnist

I thought I was going green. Instead, I was committing a crime against
humanity.

Recently our family car was totaled in a wreck (no one was hurt). So I
figured: Here's a chance to green up. To leave gas guzzling behind. To go
off the oil grid.I'm talking biodiesel. Instead of running your car on
noxious petroleum, you cruise about town powered by veggie oil

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Re: [MBZ] 1992 and 1993 300s

2008-05-05 Thread LWB250
Headlight wipers only operate when the headlights are
on and the windshield washer is actuated.

Dan


--- Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The headlight wipers on both of my 86 300E's only
 came on when the
 headlights were on and I was cleaning the
 windshield, which seems to be what
 you are doing.
 
 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave
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 Subject: [MBZ] 1992 and 1993 300s
 
 My headlight wipers do not operate on either the 92
 300TE or the 93 300E.
 Neither wiper system worked when I got these
 vehicles.  I had two working
 wiper motors so decided I would change some stuff
 out.  
 
 the final result three sets of working wiper motors
 (work fine in the shop),
 all new fuses in both vehicles.
 
 I am trying to operate them, in the vehicle, with
 the headlights on, the
 engine on and the windshield wiper in clean mode.
 
 Besides a fuse or a motor where else should I be
 looking?
 
 
 Dave H... 
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[MBZ] Fader Switch

2008-05-05 Thread LarryT
A while back someone gave a summary of how the fader knob works with all the 
other stereo equipment.   Seems like there's a transformer (or some other 
gizmo?) somewhere?  I'm mostly concerned with the '78 240D (no trunk mounted 
equipment)  looking for a system summary - I'd like to take the fader out 
all together and use the radio controls - but seems like it's more 
complicated than cutting wires twisting them together.

Does anyone have that info?

TIA ---

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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread Mitch Haley

I think they are stretching things quite a bit:

The reason is that it takes land to grow fuel. That inevitably leads to the
destruction of forests and grasslands, the studies say.

When was the last time you heard of somebody clear-cutting land so
they could grow soybeans and corn? Do these people have any idea how
much cropland the government is currently paying farmers to not grow
crops on? Or is that what they mean by grasslands?

60 acres of those grasslands were bought by my family 30 years
ago as croplands. Since then, I've seen it used as cropland, hayfields,
pasture, and now wild grasses. The local wildlife (especially deer, pheasant,
and turkey) liked it best when it was planted in corn. These days they
sleep in the grass and do a lot of their eating in the neighbors' corn. 

I'm not sure how large the deer herd would be without hunting pressure.
We had 30 cattle and 25-30 deer 15 years ago, now we have 15-20 deer.
Clearly, land that can support 30 or more cattle could easily support
100 deer, but that sort of deer population (1000 deer per square mile)
would quickly be deemed a nuisance. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Carfax?

2008-05-05 Thread Mitch Haley
So how much do you want for the Passat sedan?
Too bad it's not a wagon. I've been seeing 12 y-o wagons with
200k on them go for $8-10k. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
The real issue is that the push for bio-diesel is causing a serious food
crises in some third world countries. Clearing land  planting more palm oil
trees may solve this problem which leads back to the point the author was
making.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 6:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green


I think they are stretching things quite a bit:

The reason is that it takes land to grow fuel. That inevitably leads to the
destruction of forests and grasslands, the studies say.

When was the last time you heard of somebody clear-cutting land so
they could grow soybeans and corn? Do these people have any idea how
much cropland the government is currently paying farmers to not grow
crops on? Or is that what they mean by grasslands?

60 acres of those grasslands were bought by my family 30 years
ago as croplands. Since then, I've seen it used as cropland, hayfields,
pasture, and now wild grasses. The local wildlife (especially deer,
pheasant,
and turkey) liked it best when it was planted in corn. These days they
sleep in the grass and do a lot of their eating in the neighbors' corn. 

I'm not sure how large the deer herd would be without hunting pressure.
We had 30 cattle and 25-30 deer 15 years ago, now we have 15-20 deer.
Clearly, land that can support 30 or more cattle could easily support
100 deer, but that sort of deer population (1000 deer per square mile)
would quickly be deemed a nuisance. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, IE problems continued

2008-05-05 Thread LarryT
start in Safe Mode - turn the puter on - once the memory counts start 
pushing F8 before WIndows loads - you'll be taken to a screen where you can 
choose to start in Safe Mode - you;re limited to what you can do but once 
Win starts go to Start\run\msconfig - go to Startup  and select Disable 
ALL - then restart and then one at a time turn things back on - there's 
little you *have* to have and Win will load those.

BTW, saw an ad for IOmega HDs - they have a 750GB ext USB HD  for $160. 
There may be others less expensive -- 

Good luck -

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- Original Message - 
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, IE problems continued


 Something is locking it up when it tries to connect.  Yes, have tried it
 with zone alarm turned off.  Now, firefox is also locking up when trying
 to connect. Usually you have to restart it several times and it will
 finally work.  Now, I have not got it to work yet.  I have spent over 2
 h ours just trying to upload some ebay listings and ship 2 packages.
 This is not good

 OK Don wrote:
 Ping will usually be blocked by a firewall to prevent the ping of
 death attack, but it still tells you the IP address that the name
 resolves. I thought from an earlier post that the other browsers
 weren't working either. Since they are, your IP stack is OK - it's
 I.E. that's bad.

 On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 strange, I ran ping and it timed out.  I get connection via firefox,
  opera etc, but IE will not do anything but lock up.  Ping wont work
  either apparantly, yet I DO get connection with other browser



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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread Lee Einer
Mitch Haley wrote:

 
 When was the last time you heard of somebody clear-cutting land so
 they could grow soybeans and corn? Do these people have any idea how
 much cropland the government is currently paying farmers to not grow
 crops on? Or is that what they mean by grasslands?
 

Grasslands? I got yer grasslands, right here!

There are few things more foolish or wasteful than the grass lawn.

Because a grass lawn is a monoculture with the majority of ecological
niches vacant, it requires a great deal of human effort (and
petrochemicals) to maintain.

And for what? Every week, the suburbanoids come forth with their riding
mowers to harvest their grass lawn crop, mowing it down. But they have
no use for what they harvest, it goes into (petrochemical based) garbage
bags and is sent off to the landfill.

An outside observer would have to conclude that we are all daft.

If a whole suburban neighborhood rose up against the tyranny of the
lawn, and planted their yards and medians with a diverse and full
ecosystem with fruit trees and bushes, perennial veggies, grapevines,
and edible groundcovers, how much of their food needs would they meet?
They would probably be only a few chickens and goats away from complete
food security.

Lee

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Re: [MBZ] Fader Switch

2008-05-05 Thread Rich Thomas
Just take the wires going off to the speakers and connect them directly 
to the radio, bypass the thing altogether.

--R

LarryT wrote:
 A while back someone gave a summary of how the fader knob works with all the 
 other stereo equipment.   Seems like there's a transformer (or some other 
 gizmo?) somewhere?  I'm mostly concerned with the '78 240D (no trunk mounted 
 equipment)  looking for a system summary - I'd like to take the fader out 
 all together and use the radio controls - but seems like it's more 
 complicated than cutting wires twisting them together.

 Does anyone have that info?

 TIA ---

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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread pm7088
Where would we play Jarts?

Pete


 -- Original message --
From: Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Mitch Haley wrote:
 
  
  When was the last time you heard of somebody clear-cutting land so
  they could grow soybeans and corn? Do these people have any idea how
  much cropland the government is currently paying farmers to not grow
  crops on? Or is that what they mean by grasslands?
  
 
 Grasslands? I got yer grasslands, right here!
 
 There are few things more foolish or wasteful than the grass lawn.
 
 Because a grass lawn is a monoculture with the majority of ecological
 niches vacant, it requires a great deal of human effort (and
 petrochemicals) to maintain.
 
 And for what? Every week, the suburbanoids come forth with their riding
 mowers to harvest their grass lawn crop, mowing it down. But they have
 no use for what they harvest, it goes into (petrochemical based) garbage
 bags and is sent off to the landfill.
 
 An outside observer would have to conclude that we are all daft.
 
 If a whole suburban neighborhood rose up against the tyranny of the
 lawn, and planted their yards and medians with a diverse and full
 ecosystem with fruit trees and bushes, perennial veggies, grapevines,
 and edible groundcovers, how much of their food needs would they meet?
 They would probably be only a few chickens and goats away from complete
 food security.
 
 Lee
 
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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread Rich Thomas
At the pre-school playground.

--R

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where would we play Jarts?

 Pete


  -- Original message --
 From: Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 Mitch Haley wrote:

 
 When was the last time you heard of somebody clear-cutting land so
 they could grow soybeans and corn? Do these people have any idea how
 much cropland the government is currently paying farmers to not grow
 crops on? Or is that what they mean by grasslands?


   
 Grasslands? I got yer grasslands, right here!

 There are few things more foolish or wasteful than the grass lawn.

 Because a grass lawn is a monoculture with the majority of ecological
 niches vacant, it requires a great deal of human effort (and
 petrochemicals) to maintain.

 And for what? Every week, the suburbanoids come forth with their riding
 mowers to harvest their grass lawn crop, mowing it down. But they have
 no use for what they harvest, it goes into (petrochemical based) garbage
 bags and is sent off to the landfill.

 An outside observer would have to conclude that we are all daft.

 If a whole suburban neighborhood rose up against the tyranny of the
 lawn, and planted their yards and medians with a diverse and full
 ecosystem with fruit trees and bushes, perennial veggies, grapevines,
 and edible groundcovers, how much of their food needs would they meet?
 They would probably be only a few chickens and goats away from complete
 food security.

 Lee

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Re: [MBZ] Fader Switch

2008-05-05 Thread LWB250
I don't recall there being anything involved with the fader in the 123 chassis 
other than the knob (potentiometer) itself.  As someone else suggested, unplug 
it, jumper out the plug, and ignore it.
   
  Dan

LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  A while back someone gave a summary of how the fader knob works with all the 
other stereo equipment. Seems like there's a transformer (or some other 
gizmo?) somewhere? I'm mostly concerned with the '78 240D (no trunk mounted 
equipment)  looking for a system summary - I'd like to take the fader out 
all together and use the radio controls - but seems like it's more 
complicated than cutting wires twisting them together.

Does anyone have that info?

TIA ---

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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
Not legal at school anymore - someone's kid might get hurt.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
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Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

At the pre-school playground.

--R

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where would we play Jarts?

 Pete


  -- Original message --
 From: Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 Mitch Haley wrote:

 
 When was the last time you heard of somebody clear-cutting land so
 they could grow soybeans and corn? Do these people have any idea how
 much cropland the government is currently paying farmers to not grow
 crops on? Or is that what they mean by grasslands?


   
 Grasslands? I got yer grasslands, right here!

 There are few things more foolish or wasteful than the grass lawn.

 Because a grass lawn is a monoculture with the majority of ecological
 niches vacant, it requires a great deal of human effort (and
 petrochemicals) to maintain.

 And for what? Every week, the suburbanoids come forth with their riding
 mowers to harvest their grass lawn crop, mowing it down. But they have
 no use for what they harvest, it goes into (petrochemical based) garbage
 bags and is sent off to the landfill.

 An outside observer would have to conclude that we are all daft.

 If a whole suburban neighborhood rose up against the tyranny of the
 lawn, and planted their yards and medians with a diverse and full
 ecosystem with fruit trees and bushes, perennial veggies, grapevines,
 and edible groundcovers, how much of their food needs would they meet?
 They would probably be only a few chickens and goats away from complete
 food security.

 Lee

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Re: [MBZ] 124 front brake disks

2008-05-05 Thread Rusty Cullens
Balo.

Rusty Cullens
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- Original Message - 
From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:53 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 124 front brake disks


I checked on Rusty's on-line catalog, and found Balo, Ate, and Brembo
 brand disks - ranging from $40 to $48 each. Any experience or
 recommendations for which ones to buy?
 Yes, I'll call Rusty and ask his opinion as well, but want a few
 before I call ---
 
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 Norman, OK
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Re: [MBZ] OT, IE problems continued - backup system

2008-05-05 Thread LWB250
The redundancy that most major retail chains have isn't that sophisticated.  I 
worked on site systems for Target and K-Mart some years back, and this was the 
gist of what they did:
   
  POS (point of sale) systems loaded their data in real time to a local server. 
 The local server used a RAID 5 array for data security.  At a pre-detemined 
time every day, the server uploaded the store data (inventory, sales, etc.) via 
a satellite link.
   
  The only hitch in this approach was if you missed your window of time for 
tranmission to the satellite, as the times were tightly controlled from 
corporate and had little room for mistakes.  That necessistated calling 
corporate to schedule a manual upload, or a dump of the data to tape, which was 
overnighted to corporate.
   
  I'm sure it's far more sophisticated than this now, as at the time I was 
doing it there was no such thing as broadband or fiber, only DSL.  And while it 
did exist, I never heard of anyone having a dedicated T1 line in their store.
   
  It's my understanding from what I see in trade rags that places like Wal-Mart 
are doing real-time inventory, and generating orders directly from this data 
without any human interaction.

  Amazing, I guess.
   
  Another aspect of redundancy that Publix recently grappled with was the loss 
of power and resulting loss of perishables during extended outages (like during 
and immediately following hurricanes.)  They went on a major upgrade spree at 
many of their stores and installed generators capable of carrying the 
refrigeration load, which is substantial.  They already had smaller gensets for 
egress lighting and data backup, but they were way too small to deal with the 
refrigeration loads.
   
  The Publix closest to my house now has a 300kW Caterpillar in an enclosure 
right next to the 50kW Onan that was already there.
   
  Dan
  
Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  As a testament to what Don said, a few years ago I asked a friend who worked
at Publix [major Florida based grocery chain] about the new building going
up a the back of an area near where he worked. He said an internal study
showed that a computer system failure would most likely cause the company
and it's hundreds of stores to end up bankrupt. They were constructing a
fully redundant system in a separate location. The more you need a computer
system the more you need good protection and backup.
BillR
Formerly living in Lakeland FL, headquarters of Publix.

   
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Lunch at Singletons.....

2008-05-05 Thread Rusty Cullens
We are doing it this coming Saturday. I never go down Shrimp Festival week 
it is WAY too busy for me.


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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:16 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Lunch at Singletons.


 Hey Rusty and Bill,

 How was lunch at Singletons?  With the Shrimp Festival in Fernandina, I'm
 sure the ferry back was a bitch to catch.  Heard it was backed up all the
 way to the Lighthouse..or did you take the bridge back?

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Computer Trauma/Stuff Running in Background

2008-05-05 Thread kaleb
I tried doing a reinstall last night.  It would hang up installing
devices, restarted computer, install restarted, if finally made it thru
installing devices, then was on installing network.  Left it sitting, this
morning, still on installing network.  Cant even get install to work it
seems.  Restarted it this morning, so will see what it does.  Think Im
just gonig to buy a hard drive and start frmo scratch.  My only concern
it, since Im running NTFS, will I be able to pull files out of different
users my documents or will it give me a access denied.

 There is some command at the 'run prompt that will reset your IP stack,
 IPCONFIG or something like that?  Maybe it got corrupted and IE is all
 ferklempt.

 --R

 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 no good, same problem

 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 Right now I am running in safe mode. Launched IE 7 and it would not
 connect.  It had some deal I could click on something about joining
 some
 diagnostic something or other.  I clicked it, said I have a problem
 with
 my winsock catalog something or other and do I want to reset it.  I
 clicked yes, and it now wants to restart computer.  So, Im fixing to
 restart my computer.  HOPEFULLY this was my problem.  If I am never
 heard from again, you will know what happened.

 dave walton wrote:

 Boot from the install CD and select the Install Windows option. If it
 finds an existing installation, it will then ask if you want to Repair
 it.
 If you select the first Repair option, it takes you to the recovery
 console.

 -Dave Walton

 On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 On Sun, 04 May 2008 18:01:30 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Yea, you can do an install over an install, I have done it many
 times.

  I tried doing that at work recently but found no way to do it. Guess
 I
  must have missed something.



   I have done the uninstall/install on IE and firefox and has not
 solved
   the problem.  I wonder if the spyware scan missed something too.

  You never know ...




  Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread Curt Raymond

I'll start to get nervous about the food shortage when somebody is renting 
the 2 fields I have open and clamoring for the rest that we're planing in 
trees...

Corn grows well in northern Maine, labor costs are low, shipping is always a 
problem...

I think most of the food worries in this country (read some of 
survivalblog.com) are manufactured (that stupid rice ration comes to mind) to 
help agribusiness come out better in the farm bill...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 07:47:58 -0400
From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I think they are stretching things quite a bit:

The reason is that it takes land to grow fuel. That inevitably leads
 to the
destruction of forests and grasslands, the studies say.

When was the last time you heard of somebody clear-cutting land so
they could grow soybeans and corn? Do these people have any idea how
much cropland the government is currently paying farmers to not grow
crops on? Or is that what they mean by grasslands?

60 acres of those grasslands were bought by my family 30 years
ago as croplands. Since then, I've seen it used as cropland,
 hayfields,
pasture, and now wild grasses. The local wildlife (especially deer,
 pheasant,
and turkey) liked it best when it was planted in corn. These days they
sleep in the grass and do a lot of their eating in the neighbors' corn.
 

I'm not sure how large the deer herd would be without hunting pressure.
We had 30 cattle and 25-30 deer 15 years ago, now we have 15-20 deer.
Clearly, land that can support 30 or more cattle could easily support
100 deer, but that sort of deer population (1000 deer per square mile)
would quickly be deemed a nuisance. 

Mitch.

   
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Re: [MBZ] Fader Switch

2008-05-05 Thread Jim Cathey
 A while back someone gave a summary of how the fader knob works with 
 all the
 other stereo equipment.   Seems like there's a transformer (or some 
 other
 gizmo?) somewhere?

No, just a double potentiometer.  Simplest to just unplug it and tap
into the wires to the rear speakers.  I try to leave things so it can
be easily restored to factory configuration.  Nothing I hate worse
than butchery on a car.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] OT: Craig's list finds

2008-05-05 Thread Curt Raymond
http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/car/667584850.html - How often do you see a 
diesel Chevette, or a Chevette at all really...

http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/666249332.html - C240? Click on a pic to 
go to their website where they call it a 240SE, but its Grate!

-Curt : standard disclaimer here.

   
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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread Jim Cathey
 Because a grass lawn is a monoculture with the majority of ecological
 niches vacant, it requires a great deal of human effort (and
 petrochemicals) to maintain.

You haven't been to our house!  We don't do anything but water
and mow.  Once it gets hot, we can mostly dispense with the
latter.  Our clippings are mulched right back into the grass.
Well, at least _some_ of it is grass.

It serves many purposes for us.  Firebreak, security buffer,
killing field (aka the dog's dismemberment shop of Randomly
Found Dead Things), car washing area...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Craig's list finds

2008-05-05 Thread Jim Cathey
 go to their website where they call it a 240SE, but its Grate!

That ad. started to grate on my nerves.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread Curt Raymond

Water? You water yours?
Mine gets watered (and you can tell) where I drag the hose out to water the 
garden...
If I get around to installing drip irrigation this year even that will stop.

I'm pretty crusty when it comes to lawns, why do I want to pay big money to 
grow grass?

-Curt

Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 06:44:47 -0700
From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 Because a grass lawn is a monoculture with the majority of ecological
 niches vacant, it requires a great deal of human effort (and
 petrochemicals) to maintain.

You haven't been to our house!  We don't do anything but water
and mow.  Once it gets hot, we can mostly dispense with the
latter.  Our clippings are mulched right back into the grass.
Well, at least _some_ of it is grass.

It serves many purposes for us.  Firebreak, security buffer,
killing field (aka the dog's dismemberment shop of Randomly
Found Dead Things), car washing area...

-- Jim

   
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Computer Trauma/Stuff Running in Background

2008-05-05 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 5 May 2008 13:29:11 - (UTC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My only concern it, since Im running NTFS, will I be able to pull files
 out of different users my documents or will it give me a access
 denied.

If you have admin privileges, you shouldn't have problems with that.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 201 rear tranny flange removal

2008-05-05 Thread kaleb
Problem is Im having a hard time finding anything that big, in a deep
socket that is 12pt, most are 6pt

 I would advise getting a 3/4 drive socket set because the nut on the
 rear drive shafts is the same as the one at the back off the tranny and
 those nuts are tight tight and need to be done up tight tight. Not a
 drama with the rear tranny flange because it is not that tight and
 having a bad fit socket will work but once you get into the 200nm range
 you want a good fit as you stand on the bar to tighten/loosen the drive
 shaft nut.
 I just bought a cheapish 3/4 drive set (27 piece with AF and metric) for
 AU$120 and a half inch drive adapter, just for one quality 30mm 3/4
 drive socket they wanted AU$30. Now if I cheaped out and just bought the
 30mm socket and adapter I would have been stuffed when it came to doing
 the drive shaft nuts plus I have already employed the 22mm socket to
 easily undo the control arm bolts.

 Hendrik
 with big manly tools...haaar haaar

 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 thanks

 Craig McCluskey wrote:

 On Sun, 04 May 2008 18:19:11 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 What size is the nut on the rear output shaft flange deal?  Is it 30mm
 12pt or some special size?  Looked locally and closest I can find are
 some SAE sizes.  What would the equivelant sae size be, if any?
 Bought
 a 1 1/4 I believe and it would not work, a hair too big I think

  30
 30 mm is   =  1.181 inch
 25.4


 1-3/16 inch =  1.187 inch, a lot closer than 1-1/4.


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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J63

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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 06:44:47 -0700
From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 Because a grass lawn is a monoculture with the majority of ecological 
 niches vacant, it requires a great deal of human effort (and
 petrochemicals) to maintain.

You haven't been to our house!  We don't do anything but water and mow.
Once it gets hot, we can mostly dispense with the latter.  Our clippings
are mulched right back into the grass. Well, at least _some_ of it is
grass.

It serves many purposes for us.  Firebreak, security buffer, killing
field (aka the dog's dismemberment shop of Randomly Found Dead Things),
car washing area...

-- Jim



--

To add to Jim's fine response, here in SC a lawn also acts as 'hurricane
break' so that when the trees start falling, hopefully the bigger parts
won't reach my house

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Max Dillon
'87 300TD 308k miles
Charleston SC





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Re: [MBZ] OT: Lunch at Singletons.....

2008-05-05 Thread Gary Hurst
i'll try to make it if my schedule permits

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Your concern is appreciated, but premature.   Rusty / Teri are due Wed.
 and lunch is next Sat.
 BillR

 -Original Message-
 From: ANGELO GIAIMO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: 5/4/08 8:16 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT: Lunch at Singletons.

 Hey Rusty and Bill,

 How was lunch at Singletons?  With the Shrimp Festival in Fernandina, I'm
 sure the ferry back was a bitch to catch.  Heard it was backed up all the
 way to the Lighthouse..or did you take the bridge back?

 Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
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Re: [MBZ] ebay WTF??

2008-05-05 Thread Rolf
More than likely you got a virus that hacked the DNS resolver in IE.
Since firefox isnt affected one can assume its not the hosts file.
Pretty nice hack.

-Rolf


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 hahahahahahahaha

 Rolf wrote:
   
 Thats what you get for clicking yes at the porn sites :).

 Firefox uber alles.

 -Rolf

 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
 yea, but still want to figure out what is going on.  Just restarted 
 after going to IE 7 again, and it starts up, but doesnt load and just 
 hangs there, same as before.  This is starting to piss me off

 Luther wrote:
   
   
 Yet another reason to use Mozilla or Opera

 On Thu, 01 May 2008 16:33:08 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

 
 
 So I have been having some trouble with IE 7, it starts but never really
 does anything.  So I uninstalled it and went back to 6.  Go to ebay, ,
 click my ebay, go to log in, after I log it, it takes me to a page
 saying they have started some new security deal, and want my name,
 address, ssn, card number, atm pin, bank routing number, acct number
 etc.  It sure LOOKS like ebay, but I sure as hell dont think ebay would
 want this.  Even if they did, I would NOT give it to them.  If I log in
 via firfox, I dont get this, so I think I have a bug or something.  I
 just re downloaded IE 7 to see what it does.  This is very strage.  This
 is the message source info if it helps:

 html
 head
 !--eBay V3- msxml 4.0 XX--
 meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;
 charset=ISO-8859-1!--srcId: RegisterEnterInfoWithTerms--
 titleeBay.com - User identification/title
 style
 !--
  p{
  font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
  color:#666;
  font-size:10pt;
  }
 --
 /style
 /head
 body bgcolor=#ff!--Header code starts--!--2005-11-29
 12:19:59,,--noscript
 link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
 href=https://secureinclude.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/css/ebay.css;
 /noscript
 a href=http://www.ebay.com/;img
 src=https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/register/HeaderRegister_387x40.gif;
 alt=From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on eBay
 title=From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on
 eBay border=0 width=387 height=40/a!--Header code ends--
 script language=JavaScript!--
   

   
   
 
 
   
   
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Craig's list finds

2008-05-05 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Curt,
I emailed them on this alleged C240-which is also listed as a 220SE.  But
the inventory comments say it's a diesel and the trunk looks like 240D
badging.  Mint but pricey.
Dwight 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles.  
1979 240D- auto -250K + miles 
1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.
Wickford, RI
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To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Craig's list finds

http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/car/667584850.html - How often do you see a
diesel Chevette, or a Chevette at all really...

http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/666249332.html - C240? Click on a pic
to go to their website where they call it a 240SE, but its Grate!

-Curt : standard disclaimer here.

   
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Re: [MBZ] ebay WTF??

2008-05-05 Thread John Robbins
Rolf wrote:
 More than likely you got a virus that hacked the DNS resolver in IE.
 Since firefox isnt affected one can assume its not the hosts file.
 Pretty nice hack.

These are my thoughts as well.  This happened to my Dad's computer back 
in the day, and instead of eBay it blocked all the anti-virus websites.

John


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Re: [MBZ] OT, IE problems continued

2008-05-05 Thread Rolf

Firefox and Thunderbird, I can't remember the last time I had a virus or
spyrware issues.

-Rolf

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 Well it appears I have all the spyware crap gone, have run several 
 programs to get rid of it, and finally it runs and doesnt turn u p 
 antyhing.  Still have IE problems.  IE starts, says connecting but never 
 connects or does anything.  It will eventually say not responding and 
 you have to force it closed.  IE works fine with other things, like MB 
 service CD, but connecting to the internet this is what it does.  Also, 
 wife uses outlook express for email, and it seems to be doing about the 
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[MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-05-05 Thread Dave H...
I had my SD parked for quite some time.

Now I find that it will not set/hold cruise speed unless it has been driven for 
approximately 20 minutes or more.  If shut down (time does not matter) when 
restarting again it takes approximately 20 minutes to set/hold cruise speed. 

I'm thinking a vac leak. Any other suggestions?


Dave H...  
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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread John Robbins
Tom Hargrave wrote:
 Then there's the long term impact of compact florescent bulbs. Every one
 contains a bit of mercury. I don't know about you but I throw mine out when
 they burn out and I bet that 99% of the county does the same. So, do mercury
 tainted landfills appeal to you?

Metal-halide, low-pressure sodium, and normal (tube) fluorescent bulbs 
also have mercury in them...  I have no numbers, but I think the use of 
those bulbs far outnumber CFL usage.  This has been an ongoing thing for 
quite some time now... its not a new problem.  Eventually Joe Public 
will be made aware of the problem, and recycling centers for the public 
will be popularized.  It also depends on the area.  In the rural south 
it isn't as likely to be a problem as it would be for more urbanized 
areas with significantly denser populations (and thus much larger and 
more concentrated landfills).

http://www.p2pays.org/mercury/lights.asp

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Re: [MBZ] Windshield replacement

2008-05-05 Thread Rolf
Glad I could help. They make their own glass, hence the cost cut. The
life time warranties really put my mind at ease as well.

-Rolf

Curt Raymond wrote:
 Thanks for that Rolf, their website is very impressive in its ease of use.
 They're coming out Tuesday, price was $193 which includes a 56% spring (?) 
 discount. Thats a little less than I paid for the windshield in the 240D and 
 that was JUST parts because the guy broke the windshield when he was 
 replacing the seal.

 -Curt

 Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 15:50:50 -0400
 From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Windshield replacement
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 I had Safelite come out around Xmas and replace mine. Took 2x since the
 first one cracked. Lifetime warranty on leaking etc. Check their site
 often they have incredible deals. They beat everyone by 50% or more,
 they do make their own glass. No problems since they put the second
 window in. You will provably need a replacement seal, they will have
  one
 on hand JIC.

 -Rolf

 Curt Raymond wrote:
   
 I need a new windshield for my '85 190D, has anybody ever used one of
 
  those services that comes to your office?
   
 -Curt

 


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-05-05 Thread Jim Cathey
 Now I find that it will not set/hold cruise speed unless it has been 
 driven for approximately 20 minutes or more.  If shut down (time does 
 not matter) when restarting again it takes approximately 20 minutes to 
 set/hold cruise speed.

 I'm thinking a vac leak. Any other suggestions?

I'm thinking amplifier problems.  It almost always is.
I've fixed more than a dozen merely by resoldering.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread Jim Cathey
 I'm pretty crusty when it comes to lawns, why do I want to pay big 
 money to grow grass?

No big money for us, we're on a well.  The water is nearly free.
Couple of gallons of gasoline a year for the mower.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] SOS - Sluggo 1985 300CD

2008-05-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
A Seres of Unfortunate Events has culminated in her well looked-after '85
300CD being reduced to a sluggy nonturbo that can't even reach 25 mph.  Here
is the progresion:

1) Car wouldn't shift beyond second gear.  Dealer detected and replaced a
leaky oil cooler line (car was low on translmission fluid).  Problem solved
- car now shifted beyond second gear.
2) Two weeks later, she noticed it wouldn't go past 3500 rpm.  I then
observed that the car wouldn't shift into FOURTH gear no matter what!  It
wasn't clear whether this was a NEW problem or had been there since we got
the car back from the dealer.
3) At about that time, she parked the car at the mall and the engine refused
to shut off!  Neither of us was able to do so manually after 15 minutes of
fruitless attempts (even attempted to stop up the exhaust).  When we gave up
and drove back home, the car had developed a case of slow speed sickness -
no turbo/no revs beyond 2000/incapable of going faster than 20 mph.  :((  MB
roadside came and diagnosed and replaced a split vacuum line near the
firewall that solved the shutoff problem, but this did not solve
sluggishness issue.  If I manually move the linkage I can get high revs, but
not with the foot throttle.  The rod linkages are all intact.

Ideas and (cheap) solutions gratefully accepted!

Andrew
1985 300CD
1983 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] SOS - Sluggo 1985 300CD

2008-05-05 Thread LWB250
I would go back and check the whole vacuum system in detail, especially the 
modulating valve on the IP and the overboost line from the manifold.
   
  Your inability to get ful revs with the accelertor would have me looking at 
linkage from the pedal to the IP, too.

  I think you've got multiple problems.  Start with the vacuum system and make 
sure it's 100% first.
   
  Dan
   
   
  
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  A Seres of Unfortunate Events has culminated in her well looked-after '85
300CD being reduced to a sluggy nonturbo that can't even reach 25 mph. Here
is the progresion:

1) Car wouldn't shift beyond second gear. Dealer detected and replaced a
leaky oil cooler line (car was low on translmission fluid). Problem solved
- car now shifted beyond second gear.
2) Two weeks later, she noticed it wouldn't go past 3500 rpm. I then
observed that the car wouldn't shift into FOURTH gear no matter what! It
wasn't clear whether this was a NEW problem or had been there since we got
the car back from the dealer.
3) At about that time, she parked the car at the mall and the engine refused
to shut off! Neither of us was able to do so manually after 15 minutes of
fruitless attempts (even attempted to stop up the exhaust). When we gave up
and drove back home, the car had developed a case of slow speed sickness -
no turbo/no revs beyond 2000/incapable of going faster than 20 mph. :(( MB
roadside came and diagnosed and replaced a split vacuum line near the
firewall that solved the shutoff problem, but this did not solve
sluggishness issue. If I manually move the linkage I can get high revs, but
not with the foot throttle. The rod linkages are all intact.

Ideas and (cheap) solutions gratefully accepted!

Andrew
1985 300CD
1983 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread Mitch Haley
LWB250 wrote:
 
 I haven't seen Jarts in years.  I figured the potential for product
 liability ran then out of business years ago.

I think CPSC banned them. There were non-penetrating substitutes for
a while, but I haven't seen those in years either. I'll have to dig
mine out (Jarts) and read the rules and safety instruction. Can't
remember if some players were supposed to stand near the target
area and then throw them back in the next round, or was everybody
supposed to stand behind the thrower at all times?

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Re: [MBZ] SOS - Sluggo 1985 300CD

2008-05-05 Thread Rolf
I too vote for linkage if you couldnt shut it off with the emergency
stop. Check the bushing at the firewall, this deteriorates and fails.
$45 part

-Rolf

LWB250 wrote:
 I would go back and check the whole vacuum system in detail, especially the 
 modulating valve on the IP and the overboost line from the manifold.

   Your inability to get ful revs with the accelertor would have me looking at 
 linkage from the pedal to the IP, too.

   I think you've got multiple problems.  Start with the vacuum system and 
 make sure it's 100% first.

   Dan


   
 andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   A Seres of Unfortunate Events has culminated in her well looked-after '85
 300CD being reduced to a sluggy nonturbo that can't even reach 25 mph. Here
 is the progresion:

 1) Car wouldn't shift beyond second gear. Dealer detected and replaced a
 leaky oil cooler line (car was low on translmission fluid). Problem solved
 - car now shifted beyond second gear.
 2) Two weeks later, she noticed it wouldn't go past 3500 rpm. I then
 observed that the car wouldn't shift into FOURTH gear no matter what! It
 wasn't clear whether this was a NEW problem or had been there since we got
 the car back from the dealer.
 3) At about that time, she parked the car at the mall and the engine refused
 to shut off! Neither of us was able to do so manually after 15 minutes of
 fruitless attempts (even attempted to stop up the exhaust). When we gave up
 and drove back home, the car had developed a case of slow speed sickness -
 no turbo/no revs beyond 2000/incapable of going faster than 20 mph. :(( MB
 roadside came and diagnosed and replaced a split vacuum line near the
 firewall that solved the shutoff problem, but this did not solve
 sluggishness issue. If I manually move the linkage I can get high revs, but
 not with the foot throttle. The rod linkages are all intact.

 Ideas and (cheap) solutions gratefully accepted!

 Andrew
 1985 300CD
 1983 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread John Robbins
Mitch Haley wrote:
 Can't remember if some players were supposed to stand near the target
  area and then throw them back in the next round, or was everybody 
 supposed to stand behind the thrower at all times?

I was watching some old (50's  60's) home movies with my Mom the other 
night... you threw it right next to the other kids... then they would 
throw them back to your side, etc.  With my aim, somebody would've got 
one planted on their head.  It does look like an awesome game though!

John


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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Water? You water yours?
  Mine gets watered (and you can tell) where I drag the hose out to water the 
 garden...
  If I get around to installing drip irrigation this year even that will stop.

Ditto.  Jim and I are both in the Pacific NW; he's on the dry side of
the mountains, so I guess he has an excuse, but I'm on the wet side
where the grass gets naturally watered from September through May but
has to fend for itself the rest of the time.  It turns brown, but
comes back from dormancy just fine.  (The only problem is if you live
somewhere with neighborhood association bylaws, gated community
covenants, or some such that forbid any vegetation other than green
lawn year-round.)

Nevertheless, my long-term plan is less grass, more edible permaculture.

Alex Chamberlain

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[MBZ] 124 wiper troubleshooting---switch, motor, relay?

2008-05-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Trying to figure out why my wiper on the POS 300E doesn't work.
Symptom is that every other function of the combo switch works
fine---signals, high beams, windshield washer---but not the wiper, on
any setting.

It's controlled by the combination relay, the long skinny one back
behind the fusebox.  Looking at the schematic, pin 2 of the relay
socket goes to ground and pin 16 is the only one that goes to the
wiper motor.  So if I jumper pins 2 and 16 with the ignition on, the
wiper should move, right?  Pull the relay and stuff a scrap of wire in
there... nothing happens.  Ohmmeter between those pins reads zero
resistance.

It'd be nice to test the switches in the stalk, but I'm at a loss how.
 There are four lines labeled as going from the relay socket to the
switch---slow, fast, intermittent, and common, I'd think, but I can't
seem to find the right page in the ETM that would confirm which is
which.  (And my mapping doesn't allow for the push on the end for
wash-and-three-wipes, either, so I must be wrong.)

Anyway, barring failure of the switch, am I crazy or am I looking at a
short to ground somewhere in the wiring between pin 16 and the motor,
or in the motor itself?  Needless to say, that wasn't what I thought
would happen; I was expecting the relay itself to be malfunctioning,
by analogy with the ACC system (where, in my experience, once you've
ruled out the head unit and have an adequate charge in the system, a
compressor that won't turn on is invariably the fault of the Klima
relay).

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al.

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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-05-05 Thread Dave H...
Jim,

I had ruled out the amplifier because when the cruise locks in it is in. 
HOWEVER, that thought process I beleibve to be at fault.  Your right it 
could well be the board as it heats up it holds the setting.

Will check on it thanks.


Dave H...

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

 Now I find that it will not set/hold cruise speed unless it has been
 driven for approximately 20 minutes or more.  If shut down (time does
 not matter) when restarting again it takes approximately 20 minutes to
 set/hold cruise speed.

 I'm thinking a vac leak. Any other suggestions?

 I'm thinking amplifier problems.  It almost always is.
 I've fixed more than a dozen merely by resoldering.

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] SOS - Sluggo 1985 300CD

2008-05-05 Thread Rich Thomas
Yes on the line from the manifold to the IP -- this was the problem on 
the boy's 300SD.  You might just have to clean it out where it exits the 
manifold -- if it is goobered up there is no signal to the IP and it 
gets out of whack, no accel, low top speed, etc.  That also affected 
tranny shifts.

Also, check your fuel filters, I just did that on Brunnhilde, amazing 
difference on the low top speed, sluggish accel.

--R

LWB250 wrote:
 I would go back and check the whole vacuum system in detail, especially the 
 modulating valve on the IP and the overboost line from the manifold.

   Your inability to get ful revs with the accelertor would have me looking at 
 linkage from the pedal to the IP, too.

   I think you've got multiple problems.  Start with the vacuum system and 
 make sure it's 100% first.

   Dan


   
 andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   A Seres of Unfortunate Events has culminated in her well looked-after '85
 300CD being reduced to a sluggy nonturbo that can't even reach 25 mph. Here
 is the progresion:

 1) Car wouldn't shift beyond second gear. Dealer detected and replaced a
 leaky oil cooler line (car was low on translmission fluid). Problem solved
 - car now shifted beyond second gear.
 2) Two weeks later, she noticed it wouldn't go past 3500 rpm. I then
 observed that the car wouldn't shift into FOURTH gear no matter what! It
 wasn't clear whether this was a NEW problem or had been there since we got
 the car back from the dealer.
 3) At about that time, she parked the car at the mall and the engine refused
 to shut off! Neither of us was able to do so manually after 15 minutes of
 fruitless attempts (even attempted to stop up the exhaust). When we gave up
 and drove back home, the car had developed a case of slow speed sickness -
 no turbo/no revs beyond 2000/incapable of going faster than 20 mph. :(( MB
 roadside came and diagnosed and replaced a split vacuum line near the
 firewall that solved the shutoff problem, but this did not solve
 sluggishness issue. If I manually move the linkage I can get high revs, but
 not with the foot throttle. The rod linkages are all intact.

 Ideas and (cheap) solutions gratefully accepted!

 Andrew
 1985 300CD
 1983 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] ebay WTF??

2008-05-05 Thread kaleb
Well it seems that firefox is probably also affected.  I have been
attempting to do a resintall over the current install to see if it
straightens out.  As of this mornign, it still would not install. 
Probably going to either go with a new drive or a new computer.  Office
depot has some E machine in their ad, computer only, for like $249 after
50 rebate.  That seems pretty cheap.  I remember it said it has a AMD
serphron or whatever processor that is, single core, 1gig memory, cant
remember hard drive.  Wonder how good that would be?  Waht I would do if I
were to get a new machine I would start by completely wiping the drive to
get rid of vista, and just install xp on it and whatever else I wanted
instead of their preloaded crap

 More than likely you got a virus that hacked the DNS resolver in IE.
 Since firefox isnt affected one can assume its not the hosts file.
 Pretty nice hack.

 -Rolf


 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 hahahahahahahaha

 Rolf wrote:

 Thats what you get for clicking yes at the porn sites :).

 Firefox uber alles.

 -Rolf

 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 yea, but still want to figure out what is going on.  Just restarted
 after going to IE 7 again, and it starts up, but doesnt load and just
 hangs there, same as before.  This is starting to piss me off

 Luther wrote:


 Yet another reason to use Mozilla or Opera

 On Thu, 01 May 2008 16:33:08 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 So I have been having some trouble with IE 7, it starts but never
 really
 does anything.  So I uninstalled it and went back to 6.  Go to ebay,
 ,
 click my ebay, go to log in, after I log it, it takes me to a page
 saying they have started some new security deal, and want my name,
 address, ssn, card number, atm pin, bank routing number, acct number
 etc.  It sure LOOKS like ebay, but I sure as hell dont think ebay
 would
 want this.  Even if they did, I would NOT give it to them.  If I log
 in
 via firfox, I dont get this, so I think I have a bug or something.
 I
 just re downloaded IE 7 to see what it does.  This is very strage.
 This
 is the message source info if it helps:

 html
 head
 !--eBay V3- msxml 4.0 XX--
 meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;
 charset=ISO-8859-1!--srcId: RegisterEnterInfoWithTerms--
 titleeBay.com - User identification/title
 style
 !--
  p{
  font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
  color:#666;
  font-size:10pt;
  }
 --
 /style
 /head
 body bgcolor=#ff!--Header code starts--!--2005-11-29
 12:19:59,,--noscript
 link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
 href=https://secureinclude.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/css/ebay.css;
 /noscript
 a href=http://www.ebay.com/;img
 src=https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/register/HeaderRegister_387x40.gif;
 alt=From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on
 eBay
 title=From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on
 eBay border=0 width=387 height=40/a!--Header code ends--
 script language=JavaScript!--








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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread archer
 On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
  Water? You water yours?
  Mine gets watered (and you can tell) where I drag the hose out to water the 
 garden...
  If I get around to installing drip irrigation this year even that will stop.
 
 Ditto.  Jim and I are both in the Pacific NW; he's on the dry side of
 the mountains, so I guess he has an excuse, but I'm on the wet side
 where the grass gets naturally watered from September through May but
 has to fend for itself the rest of the time.  It turns brown, but
 comes back from dormancy just fine.  (The only problem is if you live
 somewhere with neighborhood association bylaws, gated community
 covenants, or some such that forbid any vegetation other than green
 lawn year-round.)
 Nevertheless, my long-term plan is less grass, more edible permaculture.
 Alex Chamberlain

Here are a number of ground covers suggested as substitutes for grass.  Anyone 
had experience with any of them?  I'd plant a vegetable garden in the front 
yard but this restricted subdivision, which is fairly reasonable, wouldn't go 
for that.
Thanks,
Gerry
..
Low-growing ground covers
Many of these ground huggers can withstand light foot traffic. In other words, 
you can walk on them periodically, and they're ideal for planting around 
stepping stones or in the narrow planting strip between the sidewalk and 
street. All the following plants are evergreen, meaning they have leaves all 
year. (Deciduous plants lose their leaves in the fall.)

  a.. Wooly yarrow (Achillea tomentosa): This tough, hardy ground cover reaches 
to about 6 to 9 inches high and can take foot traffic. In the summer, yellow 
flowers complement the ferny, gray-green foliage. The leaves are also aromatic, 
a fragrant bonus when you walk on it (that is, if you like the smell).
  a.. Carpet bugle (Ajuga reptans): Carpet bugle grows 2 to 6 inches high with 
handsome, deep green or purplish leaves. This hardy plant sports blue flowers 
that grow on spikes in spring and early summer.
  a.. Chamomile (Chamaemelum nobile): This plant's fine-textured, aromatic 
foliage reaches about 6 inches high. Chamomile has yellow flowers (herbal tea 
is made from the dried flowers) and can withstand light traffic. The ground 
cover is hardy to about 0 degrees F.
  a.. English ivy (Hedera helix): This widely adapted, sprawling foliage plant 
sometimes has variegated leaves. Generally, this hardy plant grows 12 to 18 
inches high and can climb.
  a.. Aaron's Beard, St. John's Wort (Hypericum calycinum): Sunny yellow 
flowers highlight this hardy plant, which grows 12 inches high.
  a.. Iceplant (Lampranthus):This large group of low-growing succulents has 
bright flowers. Most of these drought-tolerant plants are not very hardy and 
are best adapted to mild-winter climates.
  a.. Mondo grass or lily turf (Liriope or Ophiopogon): Grassy leaves and 
summer flowers identify these two similar, hardy plants. They also thrive in 
shade.
  a.. Japanese spurge (Pachysandra terminalis): This attractive foliage plant 
is ideal for shady, moist situations. Japanese spurge grows to about 10 inches 
high and is hardy.
  a.. Spring cinquefoil (Potentilla tabernaemontana): Spring cinquefoil has 
neatly lobed leaves and yellow flowers and grows 3 to 6 inches high. This hardy 
plant can withstand foot traffic.
  a.. Creeping thyme (Thymus praecox): A spreading herb with aromatic foliage 
and white to pink flowers, this plant grows 3 to 6 inches high. Creeping thyme 
is hardy and can withstand traffic.
  a.. Dwarf periwinkle (Vinca minor): This ground cover displays dark green 
leaves and violet blue flowers. Growing 6 to 12 inches high, dwarf periwinkles 
thrive in shade and are hardy.
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[MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread kaleb
So my computer that I have been having all the trouble with, I built it in
01.  It was pretty top of the line then, amd 1.6 processor, something like
that, 7xx meg ram.  i beefed it up pretty good and it has run great 24/7
since.  Have had to replace a few power supplies but other than that no
problems.  Current problem is of course software related, but thinking
about either replacing its hard drive and start from scratch, them moving
over what I need, or just buying a whole new computer, wiping out the
vista crap, and install XP.  Office depot has this on sale, look like a
POS?  Seems cheap:

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/109410/T3646-Desktop-Computer-With-AMD-Processor/

If I go with a new drive, mine is ATA, but I see SATA looks like now, will
these SATA drives work with my ATA controller or will I have to find a ATA
drive?


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Re: [MBZ] SOS - Sluggo 1985 300CD

2008-05-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Thanks - great suggestions.  Fuel filters are fine.  I just wonder whether
our futile attempts at shutting off the engine triggered a more serious
problem.  Did you mean a vacuum line from the manifold to the IP?

On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Rich Thomas 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes on the line from the manifold to the IP -- this was the problem on
 the boy's 300SD.  You might just have to clean it out where it exits the
 manifold -- if it is goobered up there is no signal to the IP and it
 gets out of whack, no accel, low top speed, etc.  That also affected
 tranny shifts.

 Also, check your fuel filters, I just did that on Brunnhilde, amazing
 difference on the low top speed, sluggish accel.

 --R

 LWB250 wrote:
  I would go back and check the whole vacuum system in detail, especially
 the modulating valve on the IP and the overboost line from the manifold.
 
Your inability to get ful revs with the accelertor would have me
 looking at linkage from the pedal to the IP, too.
 
I think you've got multiple problems.  Start with the vacuum system
 and make sure it's 100% first.
 
Dan
 
 
 
  andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A Seres of Unfortunate Events has culminated in her well looked-after
 '85
  300CD being reduced to a sluggy nonturbo that can't even reach 25 mph.
 Here
  is the progresion:
 
  1) Car wouldn't shift beyond second gear. Dealer detected and replaced a
  leaky oil cooler line (car was low on translmission fluid). Problem
 solved
  - car now shifted beyond second gear.
  2) Two weeks later, she noticed it wouldn't go past 3500 rpm. I then
  observed that the car wouldn't shift into FOURTH gear no matter what! It
  wasn't clear whether this was a NEW problem or had been there since we
 got
  the car back from the dealer.
  3) At about that time, she parked the car at the mall and the engine
 refused
  to shut off! Neither of us was able to do so manually after 15 minutes
 of
  fruitless attempts (even attempted to stop up the exhaust). When we gave
 up
  and drove back home, the car had developed a case of slow speed sickness
 -
  no turbo/no revs beyond 2000/incapable of going faster than 20 mph. :((
 MB
  roadside came and diagnosed and replaced a split vacuum line near the
  firewall that solved the shutoff problem, but this did not solve
  sluggishness issue. If I manually move the linkage I can get high revs,
 but
  not with the foot throttle. The rod linkages are all intact.
 
  Ideas and (cheap) solutions gratefully accepted!
 
  Andrew
  1985 300CD
  1983 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
I like the Von Braun solution - pave it over and paint it green.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of archer
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 12:05 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

 On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
  Water? You water yours?
  Mine gets watered (and you can tell) where I drag the hose out to water
the garden...
  If I get around to installing drip irrigation this year even that will
stop.
 
 Ditto.  Jim and I are both in the Pacific NW; he's on the dry side of
 the mountains, so I guess he has an excuse, but I'm on the wet side
 where the grass gets naturally watered from September through May but
 has to fend for itself the rest of the time.  It turns brown, but
 comes back from dormancy just fine.  (The only problem is if you live
 somewhere with neighborhood association bylaws, gated community
 covenants, or some such that forbid any vegetation other than green
 lawn year-round.)
 Nevertheless, my long-term plan is less grass, more edible permaculture.
 Alex Chamberlain

Here are a number of ground covers suggested as substitutes for grass.
Anyone had experience with any of them?  I'd plant a vegetable garden in the
front yard but this restricted subdivision, which is fairly reasonable,
wouldn't go for that.
Thanks,
Gerry
..
Low-growing ground covers
Many of these ground huggers can withstand light foot traffic. In other
words, you can walk on them periodically, and they're ideal for planting
around stepping stones or in the narrow planting strip between the sidewalk
and street. All the following plants are evergreen, meaning they have leaves
all year. (Deciduous plants lose their leaves in the fall.)

  a.. Wooly yarrow (Achillea tomentosa): This tough, hardy ground cover
reaches to about 6 to 9 inches high and can take foot traffic. In the
summer, yellow flowers complement the ferny, gray-green foliage. The leaves
are also aromatic, a fragrant bonus when you walk on it (that is, if you
like the smell).
  a.. Carpet bugle (Ajuga reptans): Carpet bugle grows 2 to 6 inches high
with handsome, deep green or purplish leaves. This hardy plant sports blue
flowers that grow on spikes in spring and early summer.
  a.. Chamomile (Chamaemelum nobile): This plant's fine-textured, aromatic
foliage reaches about 6 inches high. Chamomile has yellow flowers (herbal
tea is made from the dried flowers) and can withstand light traffic. The
ground cover is hardy to about 0 degrees F.
  a.. English ivy (Hedera helix): This widely adapted, sprawling foliage
plant sometimes has variegated leaves. Generally, this hardy plant grows 12
to 18 inches high and can climb.
  a.. Aaron's Beard, St. John's Wort (Hypericum calycinum): Sunny yellow
flowers highlight this hardy plant, which grows 12 inches high.
  a.. Iceplant (Lampranthus):This large group of low-growing succulents has
bright flowers. Most of these drought-tolerant plants are not very hardy and
are best adapted to mild-winter climates.
  a.. Mondo grass or lily turf (Liriope or Ophiopogon): Grassy leaves and
summer flowers identify these two similar, hardy plants. They also thrive in
shade.
  a.. Japanese spurge (Pachysandra terminalis): This attractive foliage
plant is ideal for shady, moist situations. Japanese spurge grows to about
10 inches high and is hardy.
  a.. Spring cinquefoil (Potentilla tabernaemontana): Spring cinquefoil has
neatly lobed leaves and yellow flowers and grows 3 to 6 inches high. This
hardy plant can withstand foot traffic.
  a.. Creeping thyme (Thymus praecox): A spreading herb with aromatic
foliage and white to pink flowers, this plant grows 3 to 6 inches high.
Creeping thyme is hardy and can withstand traffic.
  a.. Dwarf periwinkle (Vinca minor): This ground cover displays dark green
leaves and violet blue flowers. Growing 6 to 12 inches high, dwarf
periwinkles thrive in shade and are hardy.
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n-Alternative.id-2951.html
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Re: [MBZ] ebay WTF??

2008-05-05 Thread Rolf
If you don't game or use your box for Photoshop or a handful of other
apps, there is no reason to use Windows. Linux (Kubuntu is great for
starters), you would be surprised how easy it not to fork money over to
m$. Just my 2 cents. I would not buy a single core machine these days.
My home box, wifes laptop and work box are all Linux. My work laptop is
m$ because I have to use flash and MS Project from time to time.

-Rolf

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well it seems that firefox is probably also affected.  I have been
 attempting to do a resintall over the current install to see if it
 straightens out.  As of this mornign, it still would not install. 
 Probably going to either go with a new drive or a new computer.  Office
 depot has some E machine in their ad, computer only, for like $249 after
 50 rebate.  That seems pretty cheap.  I remember it said it has a AMD
 serphron or whatever processor that is, single core, 1gig memory, cant
 remember hard drive.  Wonder how good that would be?  Waht I would do if I
 were to get a new machine I would start by completely wiping the drive to
 get rid of vista, and just install xp on it and whatever else I wanted
 instead of their preloaded crap

   
 More than likely you got a virus that hacked the DNS resolver in IE.
 Since firefox isnt affected one can assume its not the hosts file.
 Pretty nice hack.

 -Rolf


 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
 hahahahahahahaha

 Rolf wrote:

   
 Thats what you get for clicking yes at the porn sites :).

 Firefox uber alles.

 -Rolf

 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 
 yea, but still want to figure out what is going on.  Just restarted
 after going to IE 7 again, and it starts up, but doesnt load and just
 hangs there, same as before.  This is starting to piss me off

 Luther wrote:


   
 Yet another reason to use Mozilla or Opera

 On Thu, 01 May 2008 16:33:08 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 
 So I have been having some trouble with IE 7, it starts but never
 really
 does anything.  So I uninstalled it and went back to 6.  Go to ebay,
 ,
 click my ebay, go to log in, after I log it, it takes me to a page
 saying they have started some new security deal, and want my name,
 address, ssn, card number, atm pin, bank routing number, acct number
 etc.  It sure LOOKS like ebay, but I sure as hell dont think ebay
 would
 want this.  Even if they did, I would NOT give it to them.  If I log
 in
 via firfox, I dont get this, so I think I have a bug or something.
 I
 just re downloaded IE 7 to see what it does.  This is very strage.
 This
 is the message source info if it helps:

 html
 head
 !--eBay V3- msxml 4.0 XX--
 meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;
 charset=ISO-8859-1!--srcId: RegisterEnterInfoWithTerms--
 titleeBay.com - User identification/title
 style
 !--
  p{
  font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
  color:#666;
  font-size:10pt;
  }
 --
 /style
 /head
 body bgcolor=#ff!--Header code starts--!--2005-11-29
 12:19:59,,--noscript
 link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
 href=https://secureinclude.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/css/ebay.css;
 /noscript
 a href=http://www.ebay.com/;img
 src=https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/register/HeaderRegister_387x40.gif;
 alt=From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on
 eBay
 title=From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on
 eBay border=0 width=387 height=40/a!--Header code ends--
 script language=JavaScript!--




   
 
   
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Re: [MBZ] ebay WTF??

2008-05-05 Thread kaleb
This is like the one that office depot has except they have a 50 rebate:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8773213type=productid=1203815923362

But, for $100 more, you can get this:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8773268type=productid=1204331806787

Its dual core, has about twice as much memory and hard drive, and it has
vista home premium.  Worth spending the extra $100 for?

As I said before, I think if I did get something like this I would wipe
everything off and install my own XP instead of keeping the vista.  What
do you all think?

Normally, I would know all this stuff, but I haev not been keeping up with
things lately.

 If you don't game or use your box for Photoshop or a handful of other
 apps, there is no reason to use Windows. Linux (Kubuntu is great for
 starters), you would be surprised how easy it not to fork money over to
 m$. Just my 2 cents. I would not buy a single core machine these days.
 My home box, wifes laptop and work box are all Linux. My work laptop is
 m$ because I have to use flash and MS Project from time to time.

 -Rolf

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well it seems that firefox is probably also affected.  I have been
 attempting to do a resintall over the current install to see if it
 straightens out.  As of this mornign, it still would not install.
 Probably going to either go with a new drive or a new computer.  Office
 depot has some E machine in their ad, computer only, for like $249 after
 50 rebate.  That seems pretty cheap.  I remember it said it has a AMD
 serphron or whatever processor that is, single core, 1gig memory, cant
 remember hard drive.  Wonder how good that would be?  Waht I would do if
 I
 were to get a new machine I would start by completely wiping the drive
 to
 get rid of vista, and just install xp on it and whatever else I wanted
 instead of their preloaded crap


 More than likely you got a virus that hacked the DNS resolver in IE.
 Since firefox isnt affected one can assume its not the hosts file.
 Pretty nice hack.

 -Rolf


 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 hahahahahahahaha

 Rolf wrote:


 Thats what you get for clicking yes at the porn sites :).

 Firefox uber alles.

 -Rolf

 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


 yea, but still want to figure out what is going on.  Just restarted
 after going to IE 7 again, and it starts up, but doesnt load and
 just
 hangs there, same as before.  This is starting to piss me off

 Luther wrote:



 Yet another reason to use Mozilla or Opera

 On Thu, 01 May 2008 16:33:08 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 So I have been having some trouble with IE 7, it starts but never
 really
 does anything.  So I uninstalled it and went back to 6.  Go to
 ebay,
 ,
 click my ebay, go to log in, after I log it, it takes me to a page
 saying they have started some new security deal, and want my name,
 address, ssn, card number, atm pin, bank routing number, acct
 number
 etc.  It sure LOOKS like ebay, but I sure as hell dont think ebay
 would
 want this.  Even if they did, I would NOT give it to them.  If I
 log
 in
 via firfox, I dont get this, so I think I have a bug or something.
 I
 just re downloaded IE 7 to see what it does.  This is very strage.
 This
 is the message source info if it helps:

 html
 head
 !--eBay V3- msxml 4.0 XX--
 meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;
 charset=ISO-8859-1!--srcId: RegisterEnterInfoWithTerms--
 titleeBay.com - User identification/title
 style
 !--
  p{
  font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
  color:#666;
  font-size:10pt;
  }
 --
 /style
 /head
 body bgcolor=#ff!--Header code starts--!--2005-11-29
 12:19:59,,--noscript
 link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
 href=https://secureinclude.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/css/ebay.css;
 /noscript
 a href=http://www.ebay.com/;img
 src=https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/register/HeaderRegister_387x40.gif;
 alt=From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on
 eBay
 title=From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items
 on
 eBay border=0 width=387 height=40/a!--Header code
 ends--
 script language=JavaScript!--







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[MBZ] Buzzer

2008-05-05 Thread Curt Raymond
Hey all.
Met up with Dwight on Saturday and he let me drive his 300D, I'd never driven a 
124 before, really nice car.
It made me think of something though, the buzzer on my car is dying, its barely 
audible right now and probably needs replacement lest I leave the lights on 
somehere and strand myself.
I noticed that in Dwights car the buzzer is more of a squealer, all my other 
Mercedes have been like that except for my 190D which makes a very American car 
like buzz. I want to replace it with a squealer.
So: Where does the buzzer live?
What do I need to buy to replace it?

-Curt

   
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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread Scott Ritchey
On second thought, since your current box is so old, I'd recommend just
getting a new PC.  As you note, there are lots of low cost boxes available.
They may not be the latest technology (so what!) but they are a quantum leap
from what you have now and will fix your problem fast and for sure.

Scott Ritchey

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

So my computer that I have been having all the trouble with, I built it in
01.  It was pretty top of the line then, amd 1.6 processor, something like
that, 7xx meg ram.  i beefed it up pretty good and it has run great 24/7
since.  Have had to replace a few power supplies but other than that no
problems.  Current problem is of course software related, but thinking
about either replacing its hard drive and start from scratch, them moving
over what I need, or just buying a whole new computer, wiping out the
vista crap, and install XP.  Office depot has this on sale, look like a
POS?  Seems cheap:

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/109410/T3646-Desktop-Computer-With-AMD
-Processor/

If I go with a new drive, mine is ATA, but I see SATA looks like now, will
these SATA drives work with my ATA controller or will I have to find a ATA
drive?


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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread kaleb
Yea, thats kind of what Im thinking.  I could spend $100 or so on a new
hard drive, or spend 3-400 on a whole new deal and wipe the old box, start
it over and use it for a 2nd machine.

 On second thought, since your current box is so old, I'd recommend just
 getting a new PC.  As you note, there are lots of low cost boxes
 available.
 They may not be the latest technology (so what!) but they are a quantum
 leap
 from what you have now and will fix your problem fast and for sure.

 Scott Ritchey

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 On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 13:27
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

 So my computer that I have been having all the trouble with, I built it in
 01.  It was pretty top of the line then, amd 1.6 processor, something like
 that, 7xx meg ram.  i beefed it up pretty good and it has run great 24/7
 since.  Have had to replace a few power supplies but other than that no
 problems.  Current problem is of course software related, but thinking
 about either replacing its hard drive and start from scratch, them moving
 over what I need, or just buying a whole new computer, wiping out the
 vista crap, and install XP.  Office depot has this on sale, look like a
 POS?  Seems cheap:

 http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/109410/T3646-Desktop-Computer-With-AMD
 -Processor/

 If I go with a new drive, mine is ATA, but I see SATA looks like now, will
 these SATA drives work with my ATA controller or will I have to find a ATA
 drive?


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Re: [MBZ] SOS - Sluggo 1985 300CD

2008-05-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Do you have a diagram showing where this bushing  is?  Is it easily
accessible from the top of the engine?

On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I too vote for linkage if you couldnt shut it off with the emergency
 stop. Check the bushing at the firewall, this deteriorates and fails.
 $45 part

 -Rolf

 LWB250 wrote:
  I would go back and check the whole vacuum system in detail, especially
 the modulating valve on the IP and the overboost line from the manifold.
 
Your inability to get ful revs with the accelertor would have me
 looking at linkage from the pedal to the IP, too.
 
I think you've got multiple problems.  Start with the vacuum system
 and make sure it's 100% first.
 
Dan
 
 
 
  andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A Seres of Unfortunate Events has culminated in her well looked-after
 '85
  300CD being reduced to a sluggy nonturbo that can't even reach 25 mph.
 Here
  is the progresion:
 
  1) Car wouldn't shift beyond second gear. Dealer detected and replaced a
  leaky oil cooler line (car was low on translmission fluid). Problem
 solved
  - car now shifted beyond second gear.
  2) Two weeks later, she noticed it wouldn't go past 3500 rpm. I then
  observed that the car wouldn't shift into FOURTH gear no matter what! It
  wasn't clear whether this was a NEW problem or had been there since we
 got
  the car back from the dealer.
  3) At about that time, she parked the car at the mall and the engine
 refused
  to shut off! Neither of us was able to do so manually after 15 minutes
 of
  fruitless attempts (even attempted to stop up the exhaust). When we gave
 up
  and drove back home, the car had developed a case of slow speed sickness
 -
  no turbo/no revs beyond 2000/incapable of going faster than 20 mph. :((
 MB
  roadside came and diagnosed and replaced a split vacuum line near the
  firewall that solved the shutoff problem, but this did not solve
  sluggishness issue. If I manually move the linkage I can get high revs,
 but
  not with the foot throttle. The rod linkages are all intact.
 
  Ideas and (cheap) solutions gratefully accepted!
 
  Andrew
  1985 300CD
  1983 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread Rich Thomas
This was in the NYTimes the other day, I forgot to save a link but you 
can find it.

--R

May 1, 2008
In the Garden


  Moss Makes a Lush, No-Care Lawn

By JANCEE DUNN

Solebury, Pa.

DAVID BENNER hasn't watered his lawn since the Kennedy administration. 
He hasn't mowed it, either. And it's doing just fine. On a late-April 
afternoon, the two-acre property surrounding his ranch house in Bucks 
County was a carpet of green, uniformly lush and velvety under a canopy 
of shade trees.

Mr. Benner, 78, a retired professor of ornamental horticulture, is also 
a longtime practitioner and advocate of what he calls the moss 
approach to lawn maintenance. Every time I give a lecture, I go into 
this spiel: get rid of your grass, and grow moss, he said. And now 
it's finally gaining momentum.

For more than a century, moss has been anathema to homeowners and 
gardeners. Type moss and lawn on an Internet search engine and 
you'll find more ways to kill it than create it.

MORE


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Re: [MBZ] SOS - Sluggo 1985 300CD

2008-05-05 Thread Rich Thomas
It actually is a pressure line from the manifold, conveys turbo boost 
pressure to the IP or ALDA or something down there, comes off the back 
of the intake manifold and runs across the firewall then down to the IP 
assembly.

I fooled around with all the vac lines when we were on the road trip 
with no help, got home and posted the issue then MBooth answered the 
problem in about 3 minutes, and that fixed it.  Car was not 
accelerating, shifting poorly, all kinds of problems.  Not sure why 
tranny was acting up, I guess all the injection and vac are intermingled 
on the turbo (I don't have one here to study, Brunnhilde is a 
mouth-breather). 

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:
 Thanks - great suggestions.  Fuel filters are fine.  I just wonder whether
 our futile attempts at shutting off the engine triggered a more serious
 problem.  Did you mean a vacuum line from the manifold to the IP?

 On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Rich Thomas 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Yes on the line from the manifold to the IP -- this was the problem on
 the boy's 300SD.  You might just have to clean it out where it exits the
 manifold -- if it is goobered up there is no signal to the IP and it
 gets out of whack, no accel, low top speed, etc.  That also affected
 tranny shifts.

 Also, check your fuel filters, I just did that on Brunnhilde, amazing
 difference on the low top speed, sluggish accel.

 --R

 LWB250 wrote:
 
 I would go back and check the whole vacuum system in detail, especially
   
 the modulating valve on the IP and the overboost line from the manifold.
 
   Your inability to get ful revs with the accelertor would have me
   
 looking at linkage from the pedal to the IP, too.
 
   I think you've got multiple problems.  Start with the vacuum system
   
 and make sure it's 100% first.
 
   Dan



 andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   A Seres of Unfortunate Events has culminated in her well looked-after
   
 '85
 
 300CD being reduced to a sluggy nonturbo that can't even reach 25 mph.
   
 Here
 
 is the progresion:

 1) Car wouldn't shift beyond second gear. Dealer detected and replaced a
 leaky oil cooler line (car was low on translmission fluid). Problem
   
 solved
 
 - car now shifted beyond second gear.
 2) Two weeks later, she noticed it wouldn't go past 3500 rpm. I then
 observed that the car wouldn't shift into FOURTH gear no matter what! It
 wasn't clear whether this was a NEW problem or had been there since we
   
 got
 
 the car back from the dealer.
 3) At about that time, she parked the car at the mall and the engine
   
 refused
 
 to shut off! Neither of us was able to do so manually after 15 minutes
   
 of
 
 fruitless attempts (even attempted to stop up the exhaust). When we gave
   
 up
 
 and drove back home, the car had developed a case of slow speed sickness
   
 -
 
 no turbo/no revs beyond 2000/incapable of going faster than 20 mph. :((
   
 MB
 
 roadside came and diagnosed and replaced a split vacuum line near the
 firewall that solved the shutoff problem, but this did not solve
 sluggishness issue. If I manually move the linkage I can get high revs,
   
 but
 
 not with the foot throttle. The rod linkages are all intact.

 Ideas and (cheap) solutions gratefully accepted!

 Andrew
 1985 300CD
 1983 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread Rich Thomas
Microcenter and Fry's have some cheap mobo/processor combos, then get 
some memory, and you can use your older stuff with a new faster board.  
You might need a new video card too, the new boards are all PCI-E, and 
that might demand a more powerful power supply.  But you can kind of 
sneak up on stuff if you want to fool around with it.

--R

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yea, thats kind of what Im thinking.  I could spend $100 or so on a new
 hard drive, or spend 3-400 on a whole new deal and wipe the old box, start
 it over and use it for a 2nd machine.

   
 On second thought, since your current box is so old, I'd recommend just
 getting a new PC.  As you note, there are lots of low cost boxes
 available.
 They may not be the latest technology (so what!) but they are a quantum
 leap
 from what you have now and will fix your problem fast and for sure.

 Scott Ritchey

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 On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 13:27
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

 So my computer that I have been having all the trouble with, I built it in
 01.  It was pretty top of the line then, amd 1.6 processor, something like
 that, 7xx meg ram.  i beefed it up pretty good and it has run great 24/7
 since.  Have had to replace a few power supplies but other than that no
 problems.  Current problem is of course software related, but thinking
 about either replacing its hard drive and start from scratch, them moving
 over what I need, or just buying a whole new computer, wiping out the
 vista crap, and install XP.  Office depot has this on sale, look like a
 POS?  Seems cheap:

 http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/109410/T3646-Desktop-Computer-With-AMD
 -Processor/

 If I go with a new drive, mine is ATA, but I see SATA looks like now, will
 these SATA drives work with my ATA controller or will I have to find a ATA
 drive?


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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread dave walton
You need a SATA controller to use SATA drives. All the current
machines that have SATA also have an ATA or IDE connector on the
motherboard for use with cd drives. That will allow you to connect
your old disk to copy stuff over. Any current machine you buy will be
64 bit. You might as well load an x64 version of windows since
Microsoft has yet to come out with any upgrade path from x86 to x64.
Soon, you will only be able to get x64 versions of Windows. Neither
Intel or AMD are making any more x86 CPU's - except for specialty
dedicated controllers.

As a side note, Small Business Server 2008 will be released only as an
x64 version (Exchange 2007 is x64 only). Anyone running SBS now will
need to do a complete reinstall to move to SBS2008. There is no
upgrade. They bumped the Premium version of SBS2008 to run on 2
servers and are coming out with a new product called EBS2008
(Essential Business Server) that will run on 3 (standard)  or 4
(premium) servers.

The only drawback I see on that eMachine is a limit of 2-gig of ram.
These days, that's not much and may not be enough to run the next
version of Windows. Personally, I'd go with an Asus M2A-VM and an
athlon x2 6400 dual-core cpu. They are dirt cheap now. That will play
HD and Blu-ray on you nice TV. The motherboard comes with an OEM
version of CyberLink. You need that to play high def and costs more
than the motherboard is selling for now.

-Dave Walton

On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:27 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So my computer that I have been having all the trouble with, I built it in
  01.  It was pretty top of the line then, amd 1.6 processor, something like
  that, 7xx meg ram.  i beefed it up pretty good and it has run great 24/7
  since.  Have had to replace a few power supplies but other than that no
  problems.  Current problem is of course software related, but thinking
  about either replacing its hard drive and start from scratch, them moving
  over what I need, or just buying a whole new computer, wiping out the
  vista crap, and install XP.  Office depot has this on sale, look like a
  POS?  Seems cheap:

  
 http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/109410/T3646-Desktop-Computer-With-AMD-Processor/

  If I go with a new drive, mine is ATA, but I see SATA looks like now, will
  these SATA drives work with my ATA controller or will I have to find a ATA
  drive?


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Re: [MBZ] SOS - Sluggo 1985 300CD

2008-05-05 Thread Rolf
If you look where the linkage comes up from the pedal on to the firewall
there it is. about 2 and mounted to the firewall. The rest of the
linkage goes laterally from here to the front of the engine. If the
emergency stop didnt work then you have binding somewhere. Get someone
to stomp on the accel (eng off) and watch the linkage. On the engine
side of the IP you should see motion, the hammer should hit the full
stop back there.

andrew strasfogel wrote:
 Do you have a diagram showing where this bushing  is?  Is it easily
 accessible from the top of the engine?

 On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 I too vote for linkage if you couldnt shut it off with the emergency
 stop. Check the bushing at the firewall, this deteriorates and fails.
 $45 part

 -Rolf

 LWB250 wrote:
 
 I would go back and check the whole vacuum system in detail, especially
   
 the modulating valve on the IP and the overboost line from the manifold.
 
   Your inability to get ful revs with the accelertor would have me
   
 looking at linkage from the pedal to the IP, too.
 
   I think you've got multiple problems.  Start with the vacuum system
   
 and make sure it's 100% first.
 
   Dan



 andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   A Seres of Unfortunate Events has culminated in her well looked-after
   
 '85
 
 300CD being reduced to a sluggy nonturbo that can't even reach 25 mph.
   
 Here
 
 is the progresion:

 1) Car wouldn't shift beyond second gear. Dealer detected and replaced a
 leaky oil cooler line (car was low on translmission fluid). Problem
   
 solved
 
 - car now shifted beyond second gear.
 2) Two weeks later, she noticed it wouldn't go past 3500 rpm. I then
 observed that the car wouldn't shift into FOURTH gear no matter what! It
 wasn't clear whether this was a NEW problem or had been there since we
   
 got
 
 the car back from the dealer.
 3) At about that time, she parked the car at the mall and the engine
   
 refused
 
 to shut off! Neither of us was able to do so manually after 15 minutes
   
 of
 
 fruitless attempts (even attempted to stop up the exhaust). When we gave
   
 up
 
 and drove back home, the car had developed a case of slow speed sickness
   
 -
 
 no turbo/no revs beyond 2000/incapable of going faster than 20 mph. :((
   
 MB
 
 roadside came and diagnosed and replaced a split vacuum line near the
 firewall that solved the shutoff problem, but this did not solve
 sluggishness issue. If I manually move the linkage I can get high revs,
   
 but
 
 not with the foot throttle. The rod linkages are all intact.

 Ideas and (cheap) solutions gratefully accepted!

 Andrew
 1985 300CD
 1983 300TD
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[MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J63
My guess is that Kaleb's NIC (network interface card) is bad (assuming he's on 
DSL or cable and not dial-up, in which case I would say his modem may be bad).
 
To test, if you are on DSL/Cable or some other broadband (i.e. the first cable 
leaving your computer to the outside world is a CAT 5e 'ethernet' cable) and 
you have modem and account for dial-up, try that method, and if IE or whatever 
internet browser you have works, you've found the problem.
 
I am considering purchasing a cheap laptop to use while traveling, and I'm 
intrigued with the idea of using Linux or some other operating system (while on 
the road I'll have time to learn/play).  How/where does one start?  Assume I 
only know anything about MS and I've never formatted a disc and loaded ANY new 
operating system...
 
[Wonko, I still have that box of SW you sent me years ago, gathering dust on my 
home office desk, anything in there still current and worth holding onto?]
 
Very respectfully,
/s/
Meade M. Dillon
Digest Lurker
'87 300TD 308k miles
 
PS apologies for the italics, stupid 'webmail' won't let me change the font 
back to normal...
 
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Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green

2008-05-05 Thread Mitch Haley


Rich Thomas wrote:
   Moss Makes a Lush, No-Care Lawn

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/01/garden/01moss.html

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[MBZ] Diesel ethanol effects on general aviation

2008-05-05 Thread RELNGSON
CESSNA SUSPENDS DIESEL 172 SALES, DIAMOND STEPS UP SUPPORT

AOPA says Cessna has suspended its delivery schedule of 172 TD models in 
light of the crisis at Thielert Aircraft Engines, which supplies the engines. 
According to AOPA, Cessna intends to continue with certification of the diesel 
Skyhawk but none of the 100 on order will go to customers just yet. At this 
point we have decided that we will not deliver 172TD aircraft during 2008, and 
we 
have informed our customers accordingly, AOPA quotes an unnamed Cessna 
spokesman as saying. Meanwhile, Diamond Aircraft appears to be moving 
aggressively 
to establish technical and parts support for its installed base of Thielert 
diesel engines, following Thielert's bankruptcy filing last week. In a series 
of 
letters to owners, Diamond says it plans to order a significant spare parts 
inventory and is asking dealers and owners for status reports on parts needs. 
It has also established a North American hotline for owners and shops that can 
be reached at 888-613-0096 or via e-mail at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] we reported last week, Thielert declared bankruptcy due to a 
looming liquidity crisis and on news that German authorities were investigating 
the company for financial anomalies relating to its IPO filing in 2005.

ETHANOL RAMPANT, MOGAS USERS WARNED

AOPA is warning aircraft owners who normally use automotive fuel purchased 
off the airport to test the gas for ethanol even if the pump doesn't say 
there's 
alcohol in the fuel. The federal government mandate to increase the use of 
renewable fuels in gasoline blends has prompted some companies to add ethanol 
without notification and that can be dangerous for aircraft engines. While 
AOPA 
has successfully prevented ethanol from being blended with avgas, there are 
limits to what the general aviation industry can do to prevent auto gasoline 
from being blended, AOPA said on its website In Idaho, pure gasoline is 
apparently so rare that it's no longer available at some airports. What I'm 
hearing 
from my members is that they cannot find ethanol-free auto gas on airports 
anywhere, Idaho Aviation Aviation Association Director Ken Jackson said in an 
email to AVweb. Their choices now are to switch to 100LL, run contaminated 
fuel, or hang it up.

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] grass

2008-05-05 Thread RELNGSON
 And for what? every week, the suburbanoids come forth with their riding 
 mowers to harvest their grass lawn crop, mowing it down. But they have no use 
 for what they harvest, it goes into (petrochemical based) bags and is sent 
 off to the landfill.
 
Piffle. So this is your excuse for letting your yard go to hell? Bet your 
neighbors love it.

Here in Seattle we have mandatory yard waste recycling. All of my grass 
clippings and such go to a central site (plastic bags not permitted) where it 
and 
all the other organic materials are processed into compost and sold on the open 
market.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread Rich Thomas
You can buy Acer laptops pretty cheap, they are quite decent machines 
for the price.

--R

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J63 wrote:
 My guess is that Kaleb's NIC (network interface card) is bad (assuming he's 
 on DSL or cable and not dial-up, in which case I would say his modem may be 
 bad).
  
 To test, if you are on DSL/Cable or some other broadband (i.e. the first 
 cable leaving your computer to the outside world is a CAT 5e 'ethernet' 
 cable) and you have modem and account for dial-up, try that method, and if IE 
 or whatever internet browser you have works, you've found the problem.
  
 I am considering purchasing a cheap laptop to use while traveling, and I'm 
 intrigued with the idea of using Linux or some other operating system (while 
 on the road I'll have time to learn/play).  How/where does one start?  Assume 
 I only know anything about MS and I've never formatted a disc and loaded ANY 
 new operating system...
  
 [Wonko, I still have that box of SW you sent me years ago, gathering dust on 
 my home office desk, anything in there still current and worth holding onto?]
  
 Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Meade M. Dillon
 Digest Lurker
 '87 300TD 308k miles
  
 PS apologies for the italics, stupid 'webmail' won't let me change the font 
 back to normal...
  
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel ethanol effects on general aviation

2008-05-05 Thread Rich Thomas
What do the candidates say about the fuel crisis in aviation?  Trial 
lawyers are gonna be all over this when the first plane flames out and 
goes down hard.

--R

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CESSNA SUSPENDS DIESEL 172 SALES, DIAMOND STEPS UP SUPPORT

 AOPA says Cessna has suspended its delivery schedule of 172 TD models in 
 light of the crisis at Thielert Aircraft Engines, which supplies the engines. 
 According to AOPA, Cessna intends to continue with certification of the 
 diesel 
 Skyhawk but none of the 100 on order will go to customers just yet. At this 
 point we have decided that we will not deliver 172TD aircraft during 2008, 
 and we 
 have informed our customers accordingly, AOPA quotes an unnamed Cessna 
 spokesman as saying. Meanwhile, Diamond Aircraft appears to be moving 
 aggressively 
 to establish technical and parts support for its installed base of Thielert 
 diesel engines, following Thielert's bankruptcy filing last week. In a series 
 of 
 letters to owners, Diamond says it plans to order a significant spare parts 
 inventory and is asking dealers and owners for status reports on parts 
 needs. 
 It has also established a North American hotline for owners and shops that 
 can 
 be reached at 888-613-0096 or via e-mail at 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] we reported last week, Thielert declared bankruptcy due to 
 a 
 looming liquidity crisis and on news that German authorities were 
 investigating 
 the company for financial anomalies relating to its IPO filing in 2005.

 ETHANOL RAMPANT, MOGAS USERS WARNED

 AOPA is warning aircraft owners who normally use automotive fuel purchased 
 off the airport to test the gas for ethanol even if the pump doesn't say 
 there's 
 alcohol in the fuel. The federal government mandate to increase the use of 
 renewable fuels in gasoline blends has prompted some companies to add ethanol 
 without notification and that can be dangerous for aircraft engines. While 
 AOPA 
 has successfully prevented ethanol from being blended with avgas, there are 
 limits to what the general aviation industry can do to prevent auto gasoline 
 from being blended, AOPA said on its website In Idaho, pure gasoline is 
 apparently so rare that it's no longer available at some airports. What I'm 
 hearing 
 from my members is that they cannot find ethanol-free auto gas on airports 
 anywhere, Idaho Aviation Aviation Association Director Ken Jackson said in 
 an 
 email to AVweb. Their choices now are to switch to 100LL, run contaminated 
 fuel, or hang it up.

 RLE


  




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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread Rolf

You missed the part about him pulling up Ebay and being sent to phishing
sites.

Kubuntu is plug and play, requiring fewer steps to install (like silly
registration codes) than windows. You can download the cd @ kubuntu.org.
The interface is pretty similar. The only real trick is learning the
package system that is used for installing new applications (like
openoffice). It is pretty straight forward but knowing what you want to
install is the trick.

The real secret is learning to use your online help resources, the web
and IRC. You get LOADS of free support on the forums and on IRC. More
and better support than M$ will ever offer, free or otherwise. There is
a whole world out there ready to be learned.

-Rolf



Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J63 wrote:
 My guess is that Kaleb's NIC (network interface card) is bad (assuming he's 
 on DSL or cable and not dial-up, in which case I would say his modem may be 
 bad).
  
 To test, if you are on DSL/Cable or some other broadband (i.e. the first 
 cable leaving your computer to the outside world is a CAT 5e 'ethernet' 
 cable) and you have modem and account for dial-up, try that method, and if IE 
 or whatever internet browser you have works, you've found the problem.
  
 I am considering purchasing a cheap laptop to use while traveling, and I'm 
 intrigued with the idea of using Linux or some other operating system (while 
 on the road I'll have time to learn/play).  How/where does one start?  Assume 
 I only know anything about MS and I've never formatted a disc and loaded ANY 
 new operating system...
  
 [Wonko, I still have that box of SW you sent me years ago, gathering dust on 
 my home office desk, anything in there still current and worth holding onto?]
  
 Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Meade M. Dillon
 Digest Lurker
 '87 300TD 308k miles
  
 PS apologies for the italics, stupid 'webmail' won't let me change the font 
 back to normal...
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread Rolf
Ya I agree. These days unless you are gaming or making media, laptops
are pretty much the way to go. Price wise they aren't far off and you
can beat doing work from a hammock.

-Rolf

Rich Thomas wrote:
 You can buy Acer laptops pretty cheap, they are quite decent machines 
 for the price.

 --R

 Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J63 wrote:
   
 My guess is that Kaleb's NIC (network interface card) is bad (assuming he's 
 on DSL or cable and not dial-up, in which case I would say his modem may be 
 bad).
  
 To test, if you are on DSL/Cable or some other broadband (i.e. the first 
 cable leaving your computer to the outside world is a CAT 5e 'ethernet' 
 cable) and you have modem and account for dial-up, try that method, and if 
 IE or whatever internet browser you have works, you've found the problem.
  
 I am considering purchasing a cheap laptop to use while traveling, and I'm 
 intrigued with the idea of using Linux or some other operating system (while 
 on the road I'll have time to learn/play).  How/where does one start?  
 Assume I only know anything about MS and I've never formatted a disc and 
 loaded ANY new operating system...
  
 [Wonko, I still have that box of SW you sent me years ago, gathering dust on 
 my home office desk, anything in there still current and worth holding onto?]
  
 Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Meade M. Dillon
 Digest Lurker
 '87 300TD 308k miles
  
 PS apologies for the italics, stupid 'webmail' won't let me change the font 
 back to normal...
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
I went ahead about bought that $399 e machine with the dual core AMD etc. 
Now, should I just wipe everything out and install XP, or keep Vista?

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- Original Message - 
From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer


 Microcenter and Fry's have some cheap mobo/processor combos, then get
 some memory, and you can use your older stuff with a new faster board.
 You might need a new video card too, the new boards are all PCI-E, and
 that might demand a more powerful power supply.  But you can kind of
 sneak up on stuff if you want to fool around with it.

 --R

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yea, thats kind of what Im thinking.  I could spend $100 or so on a new
 hard drive, or spend 3-400 on a whole new deal and wipe the old box, 
 start
 it over and use it for a 2nd machine.


 On second thought, since your current box is so old, I'd recommend just
 getting a new PC.  As you note, there are lots of low cost boxes
 available.
 They may not be the latest technology (so what!) but they are a quantum
 leap
 from what you have now and will fix your problem fast and for sure.

 Scott Ritchey

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 13:27
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

 So my computer that I have been having all the trouble with, I built it 
 in
 01.  It was pretty top of the line then, amd 1.6 processor, something 
 like
 that, 7xx meg ram.  i beefed it up pretty good and it has run great 24/7
 since.  Have had to replace a few power supplies but other than that no
 problems.  Current problem is of course software related, but thinking
 about either replacing its hard drive and start from scratch, them 
 moving
 over what I need, or just buying a whole new computer, wiping out the
 vista crap, and install XP.  Office depot has this on sale, look like a
 POS?  Seems cheap:

 http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/109410/T3646-Desktop-Computer-With-AMD
 -Processor/

 If I go with a new drive, mine is ATA, but I see SATA looks like now, 
 will
 these SATA drives work with my ATA controller or will I have to find a 
 ATA
 drive?


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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work

Is XP 64 bit or what?  Or is just vista 64 bit?  What are the advantages?  I 
am way behind the times.

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- Original Message - 
From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer


 You need a SATA controller to use SATA drives. All the current
 machines that have SATA also have an ATA or IDE connector on the
 motherboard for use with cd drives. That will allow you to connect
 your old disk to copy stuff over. Any current machine you buy will be
 64 bit. You might as well load an x64 version of windows since
 Microsoft has yet to come out with any upgrade path from x86 to x64.
 Soon, you will only be able to get x64 versions of Windows. Neither
 Intel or AMD are making any more x86 CPU's - except for specialty
 dedicated controllers.

 As a side note, Small Business Server 2008 will be released only as an
 x64 version (Exchange 2007 is x64 only). Anyone running SBS now will
 need to do a complete reinstall to move to SBS2008. There is no
 upgrade. They bumped the Premium version of SBS2008 to run on 2
 servers and are coming out with a new product called EBS2008
 (Essential Business Server) that will run on 3 (standard)  or 4
 (premium) servers.

 The only drawback I see on that eMachine is a limit of 2-gig of ram.
 These days, that's not much and may not be enough to run the next
 version of Windows. Personally, I'd go with an Asus M2A-VM and an
 athlon x2 6400 dual-core cpu. They are dirt cheap now. That will play
 HD and Blu-ray on you nice TV. The motherboard comes with an OEM
 version of CyberLink. You need that to play high def and costs more
 than the motherboard is selling for now.

 -Dave Walton

 On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:27 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So my computer that I have been having all the trouble with, I built it 
 in
  01.  It was pretty top of the line then, amd 1.6 processor, something 
 like
  that, 7xx meg ram.  i beefed it up pretty good and it has run great 24/7
  since.  Have had to replace a few power supplies but other than that no
  problems.  Current problem is of course software related, but thinking
  about either replacing its hard drive and start from scratch, them 
 moving
  over what I need, or just buying a whole new computer, wiping out the
  vista crap, and install XP.  Office depot has this on sale, look like a
  POS?  Seems cheap:

 
 http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/109410/T3646-Desktop-Computer-With-AMD-Processor/

  If I go with a new drive, mine is ATA, but I see SATA looks like now, 
 will
  these SATA drives work with my ATA controller or will I have to find a 
 ATA
  drive?


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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread Rolf
There are 64bit versions of XP. I think vista requires 64bit. Any modern
CPU is going to be 64bit. The major advantages is the ability to use
more than 2GB of memory at a time.

-Rolf

Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 Is XP 64 bit or what?  Or is just vista 64 bit?  What are the advantages?  I 
 am way behind the times.

 ---
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 Cox Auto Trader
 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor

 - Original Message - 
 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer


   
 You need a SATA controller to use SATA drives. All the current
 machines that have SATA also have an ATA or IDE connector on the
 motherboard for use with cd drives. That will allow you to connect
 your old disk to copy stuff over. Any current machine you buy will be
 64 bit. You might as well load an x64 version of windows since
 Microsoft has yet to come out with any upgrade path from x86 to x64.
 Soon, you will only be able to get x64 versions of Windows. Neither
 Intel or AMD are making any more x86 CPU's - except for specialty
 dedicated controllers.

 As a side note, Small Business Server 2008 will be released only as an
 x64 version (Exchange 2007 is x64 only). Anyone running SBS now will
 need to do a complete reinstall to move to SBS2008. There is no
 upgrade. They bumped the Premium version of SBS2008 to run on 2
 servers and are coming out with a new product called EBS2008
 (Essential Business Server) that will run on 3 (standard)  or 4
 (premium) servers.

 The only drawback I see on that eMachine is a limit of 2-gig of ram.
 These days, that's not much and may not be enough to run the next
 version of Windows. Personally, I'd go with an Asus M2A-VM and an
 athlon x2 6400 dual-core cpu. They are dirt cheap now. That will play
 HD and Blu-ray on you nice TV. The motherboard comes with an OEM
 version of CyberLink. You need that to play high def and costs more
 than the motherboard is selling for now.

 -Dave Walton

 On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:27 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 So my computer that I have been having all the trouble with, I built it 
 in
  01.  It was pretty top of the line then, amd 1.6 processor, something 
 like
  that, 7xx meg ram.  i beefed it up pretty good and it has run great 24/7
  since.  Have had to replace a few power supplies but other than that no
  problems.  Current problem is of course software related, but thinking
  about either replacing its hard drive and start from scratch, them 
 moving
  over what I need, or just buying a whole new computer, wiping out the
  vista crap, and install XP.  Office depot has this on sale, look like a
  POS?  Seems cheap:


 http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/109410/T3646-Desktop-Computer-With-AMD-Processor/

  If I go with a new drive, mine is ATA, but I see SATA looks like now, 
 will
  these SATA drives work with my ATA controller or will I have to find a 
 ATA
  drive?


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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
I have XP pro sp2, is that 64 bit?

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- Original Message - 
From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer


 There are 64bit versions of XP. I think vista requires 64bit. Any modern
 CPU is going to be 64bit. The major advantages is the ability to use
 more than 2GB of memory at a time.

 -Rolf

 Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 Is XP 64 bit or what?  Or is just vista 64 bit?  What are the advantages? 
 I
 am way behind the times.

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 - Original Message - 
 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer



 You need a SATA controller to use SATA drives. All the current
 machines that have SATA also have an ATA or IDE connector on the
 motherboard for use with cd drives. That will allow you to connect
 your old disk to copy stuff over. Any current machine you buy will be
 64 bit. You might as well load an x64 version of windows since
 Microsoft has yet to come out with any upgrade path from x86 to x64.
 Soon, you will only be able to get x64 versions of Windows. Neither
 Intel or AMD are making any more x86 CPU's - except for specialty
 dedicated controllers.

 As a side note, Small Business Server 2008 will be released only as an
 x64 version (Exchange 2007 is x64 only). Anyone running SBS now will
 need to do a complete reinstall to move to SBS2008. There is no
 upgrade. They bumped the Premium version of SBS2008 to run on 2
 servers and are coming out with a new product called EBS2008
 (Essential Business Server) that will run on 3 (standard)  or 4
 (premium) servers.

 The only drawback I see on that eMachine is a limit of 2-gig of ram.
 These days, that's not much and may not be enough to run the next
 version of Windows. Personally, I'd go with an Asus M2A-VM and an
 athlon x2 6400 dual-core cpu. They are dirt cheap now. That will play
 HD and Blu-ray on you nice TV. The motherboard comes with an OEM
 version of CyberLink. You need that to play high def and costs more
 than the motherboard is selling for now.

 -Dave Walton

 On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:27 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So my computer that I have been having all the trouble with, I built it
 in
  01.  It was pretty top of the line then, amd 1.6 processor, something
 like
  that, 7xx meg ram.  i beefed it up pretty good and it has run great 
 24/7
  since.  Have had to replace a few power supplies but other than that 
 no
  problems.  Current problem is of course software related, but thinking
  about either replacing its hard drive and start from scratch, them
 moving
  over what I need, or just buying a whole new computer, wiping out the
  vista crap, and install XP.  Office depot has this on sale, look like 
 a
  POS?  Seems cheap:


 http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/109410/T3646-Desktop-Computer-With-AMD-Processor/

  If I go with a new drive, mine is ATA, but I see SATA looks like now,
 will
  these SATA drives work with my ATA controller or will I have to find a
 ATA
  drive?


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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread Rolf
Not unless it says it is. XP is already on the path to deprecation. It
wont be supported much longer (2010?).

-Rolf

Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 I have XP pro sp2, is that 64 bit?

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 - Original Message - 
 From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer


   
 There are 64bit versions of XP. I think vista requires 64bit. Any modern
 CPU is going to be 64bit. The major advantages is the ability to use
 more than 2GB of memory at a time.

 -Rolf

 Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 
 Is XP 64 bit or what?  Or is just vista 64 bit?  What are the advantages? 
 I
 am way behind the times.

 ---
 Kaleb C. Striplin
 Cox Auto Trader
 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor

 - Original Message - 
 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer



   
 You need a SATA controller to use SATA drives. All the current
 machines that have SATA also have an ATA or IDE connector on the
 motherboard for use with cd drives. That will allow you to connect
 your old disk to copy stuff over. Any current machine you buy will be
 64 bit. You might as well load an x64 version of windows since
 Microsoft has yet to come out with any upgrade path from x86 to x64.
 Soon, you will only be able to get x64 versions of Windows. Neither
 Intel or AMD are making any more x86 CPU's - except for specialty
 dedicated controllers.

 As a side note, Small Business Server 2008 will be released only as an
 x64 version (Exchange 2007 is x64 only). Anyone running SBS now will
 need to do a complete reinstall to move to SBS2008. There is no
 upgrade. They bumped the Premium version of SBS2008 to run on 2
 servers and are coming out with a new product called EBS2008
 (Essential Business Server) that will run on 3 (standard)  or 4
 (premium) servers.

 The only drawback I see on that eMachine is a limit of 2-gig of ram.
 These days, that's not much and may not be enough to run the next
 version of Windows. Personally, I'd go with an Asus M2A-VM and an
 athlon x2 6400 dual-core cpu. They are dirt cheap now. That will play
 HD and Blu-ray on you nice TV. The motherboard comes with an OEM
 version of CyberLink. You need that to play high def and costs more
 than the motherboard is selling for now.

 -Dave Walton

 On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:27 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 So my computer that I have been having all the trouble with, I built it
 in
  01.  It was pretty top of the line then, amd 1.6 processor, something
 like
  that, 7xx meg ram.  i beefed it up pretty good and it has run great 
 24/7
  since.  Have had to replace a few power supplies but other than that 
 no
  problems.  Current problem is of course software related, but thinking
  about either replacing its hard drive and start from scratch, them
 moving
  over what I need, or just buying a whole new computer, wiping out the
  vista crap, and install XP.  Office depot has this on sale, look like 
 a
  POS?  Seems cheap:


 http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/109410/T3646-Desktop-Computer-With-AMD-Processor/

  If I go with a new drive, mine is ATA, but I see SATA looks like now,
 will
  these SATA drives work with my ATA controller or will I have to find a
 ATA
  drive?


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Re: [MBZ] grass

2008-05-05 Thread Curt Raymond

Genius, bag up your clippings, send 'em in and then BUY them back...
Wow and people wonder why the world is going to hell.

I don't give a crap what my neighbors think...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:42:39 EDT
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] grass
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

 And for what? every week, the suburbanoids come forth with their
 riding 
 mowers to harvest their grass lawn crop, mowing it down. But they
 have no use 
 for what they harvest, it goes into (petrochemical based) bags and is
 sent 
 off to the landfill.
 
Piffle. So this is your excuse for letting your yard go to hell? Bet
 your 
neighbors love it.

Here in Seattle we have mandatory yard waste recycling. All of my grass
 
clippings and such go to a central site (plastic bags not permitted)
 where it and 
all the other organic materials are processed into compost and sold on
 the open 
market.

RLE
 
 

   
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Re: [MBZ] ebay WTF??

2008-05-05 Thread Russ Williams
Kaleb,

Stay away from any system that is running Vista and doesn't have 2 gigs 
of RAM.
Unless you like to play the waiting game.
You may have a problem getting Drivers for XP for the eMachines.
Their web site only shows Vista drivers which aren't compatible with XP.
You MAY be able to find XP drivers for the system but that is doubtful.

Had a HP System in 2 weeks ago that the guy was pulling his hair out running
Vista. He wanted to swap to XP. After 2 days of trying different drivers 
could
not get the Video or Audio to work right. HP had modified the Intel Mobo so
the XP drivers wouldn't work.

Good Luck.
Russ W.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is like the one that office depot has except they have a 50 rebate:

 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8773213type=productid=1203815923362

 But, for $100 more, you can get this:

 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8773268type=productid=1204331806787

 Its dual core, has about twice as much memory and hard drive, and it has
 vista home premium.  Worth spending the extra $100 for?

 As I said before, I think if I did get something like this I would wipe
 everything off and install my own XP instead of keeping the vista.  What
 do you all think?

 Normally, I would know all this stuff, but I haev not been keeping up with
 things lately.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread Curt Raymond

On a $300 computer neither XP or Vista is likely to be 64bit. If you're in 
doubt you've got 32bit...

If you've got less than 1GB of RAM go XP. More than 1GB it probably doesn't 
matter.

Smart money goes Linux, why do you resist?

Oh smart money also says you WILL get into this trouble again if the wife stays 
with Outlook Express...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:20:51 -0500
From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Is XP 64 bit or what?  Or is just vista 64 bit?  What are the
 advantages?  I 
am way behind the times.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread Curt Raymond

B!
Most versions of Vista are 32bit. 64bit versions will be specifically labeled, 
just like XP.
The advantage is actually more than 3GB of RAM and faster use of the processor.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 17:28:54 -0400
From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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There are 64bit versions of XP. I think vista requires 64bit. Any
 modern
CPU is going to be 64bit. The major advantages is the ability to use
more than 2GB of memory at a time.

-Rolf

   
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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread Curt Raymond

No.

Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:27:08 -0500
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I have XP pro sp2, is that 64 bit?

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Re: [MBZ] grass

2008-05-05 Thread John Robbins
Curt Raymond wrote:
 Genius, bag up your clippings, send 'em in and then BUY them back...
 Wow and people wonder why the world is going to hell.

You're paying for someone to perform the composting process... Sounds 
like good old capitalism to me!

John


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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread Jeff Zedic
Regina would very easily get used to a good Linux distro, especially
by using Sylpheed as an email client.

2 gigs of RAM minimum for Vista is a cruel joke! Keep the XP
installed. Crop out all the crap they preload to help you.

Then get PCLinuxOS or Ubunutu. I prefer PCLOS as it's not as bloaty as
Ubunutu. To befair, Ubunutu sells itself as a Windoze replacement and
it is very similarexcept that it works right out of the box.

The reason for keeping XP in the beginning anyway, is just in case you
need an MS driver for a peripheral that isn't readily available in
Linux land. Happens sometimes...usually on cheaper machines that have
bespoke hardware to save money. You then point the Linux hardware
manager to the windows driver and all is fine.

Zedic

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Re: [MBZ] OT, IE problems continued

2008-05-05 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Sun, 4 May 2008 17:45:01 -0500, OK wrote:

 OK - based on IE working for local content but not Internet
 content, perhaps the IP stack is at fault?  DNS isn't working?

Check the hosts file.

Windows still uses one, doesn't it?

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread dave walton
The retail Vista package ships with x86 and x64 versions for all
product levels. All product levels are installed from the same DVD and
use the Activation code to determine what it lays down on the hard
drive. OEM versions usually only ship with one version for one product
level.

XP Professional is still available in an x64 version. It has a
different part number than the x86 version. At this point, Vista x64
will have better support and driver availability.

There is a slight speed improvement running x64 versus x86 on the same
hardware due to taking a bigger byte of memory each time (pun
intended). Many device drivers still run in 32 bit mode under WoW
(Windows on Windows) under the x64 versions. That's just MicroSpeak
for saying they wrote an emulation layer so they would not have to
rewrite/recompile everything.

2Gig ram is jst enough to run the ultimate version of Vista and
use your PC as a Tivo with a standard and HD tuner board.

-Dave Walton


On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have XP pro sp2, is that 64 bit?


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  - Original Message -

 From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com


 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer


   There are 64bit versions of XP. I think vista requires 64bit. Any modern
   CPU is going to be 64bit. The major advantages is the ability to use
   more than 2GB of memory at a time.
  
   -Rolf
  
   Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
   Is XP 64 bit or what?  Or is just vista 64 bit?  What are the advantages?
   I
   am way behind the times.
  
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   - Original Message -
   From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
   Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:40 PM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer
  
  
  
   You need a SATA controller to use SATA drives. All the current
   machines that have SATA also have an ATA or IDE connector on the
   motherboard for use with cd drives. That will allow you to connect
   your old disk to copy stuff over. Any current machine you buy will be
   64 bit. You might as well load an x64 version of windows since
   Microsoft has yet to come out with any upgrade path from x86 to x64.
   Soon, you will only be able to get x64 versions of Windows. Neither
   Intel or AMD are making any more x86 CPU's - except for specialty
   dedicated controllers.
  
   As a side note, Small Business Server 2008 will be released only as an
   x64 version (Exchange 2007 is x64 only). Anyone running SBS now will
   need to do a complete reinstall to move to SBS2008. There is no
   upgrade. They bumped the Premium version of SBS2008 to run on 2
   servers and are coming out with a new product called EBS2008
   (Essential Business Server) that will run on 3 (standard)  or 4
   (premium) servers.
  
   The only drawback I see on that eMachine is a limit of 2-gig of ram.
   These days, that's not much and may not be enough to run the next
   version of Windows. Personally, I'd go with an Asus M2A-VM and an
   athlon x2 6400 dual-core cpu. They are dirt cheap now. That will play
   HD and Blu-ray on you nice TV. The motherboard comes with an OEM
   version of CyberLink. You need that to play high def and costs more
   than the motherboard is selling for now.
  
   -Dave Walton
  
   On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:27 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   So my computer that I have been having all the trouble with, I built it
   in
01.  It was pretty top of the line then, amd 1.6 processor, something
   like
that, 7xx meg ram.  i beefed it up pretty good and it has run great
   24/7
since.  Have had to replace a few power supplies but other than that
   no
problems.  Current problem is of course software related, but thinking
about either replacing its hard drive and start from scratch, them
   moving
over what I need, or just buying a whole new computer, wiping out the
vista crap, and install XP.  Office depot has this on sale, look like
   a
POS?  Seems cheap:
  
  
   
 http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/109410/T3646-Desktop-Computer-With-AMD-Processor/
  
If I go with a new drive, mine is ATA, but I see SATA looks like now,
   will
these SATA drives work with my ATA controller or will I have to find a
   ATA
drive?
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT, IE problems continued

2008-05-05 Thread dave walton
Yes

C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

-Dave Walton

On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It seems than at Sun, 4 May 2008 17:45:01 -0500, OK wrote:

   OK - based on IE working for local content but not Internet
   content, perhaps the IP stack is at fault?  DNS isn't working?

  Check the hosts file.

  Windows still uses one, doesn't it?

  --Philip



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Re: [MBZ] 201 rear tranny flange removal

2008-05-05 Thread Hendrik Fay
A standard 3/4 drive socket works, you just can't get the square drive 
all the way in but that is no problem because it is not that tight.
All the 3/4 socket sets I have come across have been 12 point. 6 point 
is rare and expensive.
http://www.jimytools.com/products_HandTools01_1.htm I got the 41.6027.10 set

Hendrik

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 Problem is Im having a hard time finding anything that big, in a deep
 socket that is 12pt, most are 6pt

   

   

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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread archer
What's the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
Thanks,
Gerry

From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Kubuntu is plug and play, requiring fewer steps to install (like silly
 registration codes) than windows. You can download the cd @ kubuntu.org.
 The interface is pretty similar. The only real trick is learning the
 package system that is used for installing new applications (like
 openoffice). It is pretty straight forward but knowing what you want to
 install is the trick.
 The real secret is learning to use your online help resources, the web and 
 IRC. You get LOADS of free support on the forums and on IRC. More and 
 better support than M$ will ever offer, free or otherwise. There is a 
 whole world out there ready to be learned.
 -Rolf


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Re: [MBZ] OT, IE problems continued

2008-05-05 Thread Loren Faeth
BUY A  MAC


At 02:01 AM 5/5/2008, you wrote:
Dude, quit F!n with it, buy that new harddrive that you're drooling over, and
load everything from scratch.  MANY less headaches that way

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Quoting Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Something is locking it up when it tries to connect.  Yes, have tried it
  with zone alarm turned off.  Now, firefox is also locking up when trying
  to connect. Usually you have to restart it several times and it will
  finally work.  Now, I have not got it to work yet.  I have spent over 2
  h ours just trying to upload some ebay listings and ship 2 packages.
  This is not good
 



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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread John Robbins
archer wrote:
 What's the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?

Linux is able to have multiple window managers.  Kubuntu uses the KDE 
window manager whereas Ubuntu uses Gnome.  Each window manager provides 
the way you interface with your computer... its best seen with 
screenshots...

KDE:
http://kde.org/screenshots/kde350shots.php

GNOME:
http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/screenshots.html
http://www.lynucs.org/?gnome

Did that help any?

John


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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread kaleb
Well I bought the 399 e machine, which I am using right now.  Fired it up
with vista, yes, its 32 bit.  Still wondering if I should wipe it out and
see what happens with XP installed.  If I do go that route and it doesnt
work ,I assume I can wipe it out again and reinstall the original stuff
via the restore cd etc.

Also, if I stick with vista, can I plug my old drive in (already have
removed teh cover, and copy whatever files over I need?


 B!
 Most versions of Vista are 32bit. 64bit versions will be specifically
 labeled, just like XP.
 The advantage is actually more than 3GB of RAM and faster use of the
 processor.

 -Curt

 Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 17:28:54 -0400
 From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 There are 64bit versions of XP. I think vista requires 64bit. Any
  modern
 CPU is going to be 64bit. The major advantages is the ability to use
 more than 2GB of memory at a time.

 -Rolf


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[MBZ] Troubleshooting Standing Pilot (millivolt) Gas Valve

2008-05-05 Thread LWB250
I've got experience with gas systems, but not with
standing pilot millivolt valves.

I've got a spa heater that's giving me fits.  Pilot
stays lit, meaning that the generator (thermocouple)
is working fine, but the main valve won't open when
the control circuits are closed.

Other than assuming the main valve is kaput, does
anyone have experience with these kinds of gas
systems, and if so, is there anything else I can check
out?

Nothing has changed since it last worked, such as gas
pressure, etc., so I've narrowed it down to the valve.

Dan


  

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Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer

2008-05-05 Thread Loren Faeth
All macs have been 64 bit since when?

I'm thinking its been about 10 years already.  Anyone know?

I decided maybe 5 years ago not to buy any more windows hardware 
until it has all been 64 bit for several years. (so that I don't have 
to pay a premium for the somewhat 64 bit hardware or way premium for 
true 64 bit hardware.)  I did buy a macbook for my wife to write her 
thesis on, and it runs windows wicked fast, although it is 
approaching 2 yrs old now.  For my money, a used intel mac is better 
hardware for windoze than most of the generic stuff.  And you get the 
added bonus that you can run OS X in native more or windows or linux, 
all native  or all the OSes listed all native.

At 06:10 PM 5/5/2008, you wrote:
Well I bought the 399 e machine, which I am using right now.  Fired it up
with vista, yes, its 32 bit.  Still wondering if I should wipe it out and
see what happens with XP installed.  If I do go that route and it doesnt
work ,I assume I can wipe it out again and reinstall the original stuff
via the restore cd etc.

Also, if I stick with vista, can I plug my old drive in (already have
removed teh cover, and copy whatever files over I need?

 
  B!
  Most versions of Vista are 32bit. 64bit versions will be specifically
  labeled, just like XP.
  The advantage is actually more than 3GB of RAM and faster use of the
  processor.
 
  -Curt
 
  Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 17:28:54 -0400
  From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
  There are 64bit versions of XP. I think vista requires 64bit. Any
   modern
  CPU is going to be 64bit. The major advantages is the ability to use
  more than 2GB of memory at a time.
 
  -Rolf
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] grass

2008-05-05 Thread Hendrik Fay
Here we got a three bin system, one small one for weekly general garbage 
collection and two bigger ones for recycling, which are collected on 
alternate weeks. One is supposed to be for garden waste but people being 
people they use it for general rubbish once their little bin gets full. 
Problem is that usually the green waste gets contaminated and the whole 
truck load ends up in landfill.
As Kermit said It's not easy being green.

Hendrik
who disposes of his used sump oil properly

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Piffle. So this is your excuse for letting your yard go to hell? Bet your 
 neighbors love it.

 Here in Seattle we have mandatory yard waste recycling. All of my grass 
 clippings and such go to a central site (plastic bags not permitted) where it 
 and 
 all the other organic materials are processed into compost and sold on the 
 open 
 market.

 RLE
   
 


   

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Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting Standing Pilot (millivolt) Gas Valve

2008-05-05 Thread Rich Thomas
Those gas solenoid valves are problematic.  I had to replace a couple on 
a dryer, and my downstairs furnace currently has a bad one I just have 
not dealt with.  You can see if the solenoid is getting energized with 
your meter (just hook it up across the wires-- check them too for 
continuity -- either at the solenoid or the controller), if it gets 
juice and doesn't open then you need a new valve (or maybe just the 
solenoid).  They are not very expensive if I recall.

WARNING:  Working on these can cause dire results, up to and including 
death, dismemberment, dyspepsia, distention, disorders, dystopic 
tendencies, strabismus, sterility, and other conditions.  See your 
doctor.  Ask not what you can do for your country.  Vote for change!  
Change your underwear.  Hope to count your spare change.  Yes we can!

--R

LWB250 wrote:
 I've got experience with gas systems, but not with
 standing pilot millivolt valves.

 I've got a spa heater that's giving me fits.  Pilot
 stays lit, meaning that the generator (thermocouple)
 is working fine, but the main valve won't open when
 the control circuits are closed.

 Other than assuming the main valve is kaput, does
 anyone have experience with these kinds of gas
 systems, and if so, is there anything else I can check
 out?

 Nothing has changed since it last worked, such as gas
 pressure, etc., so I've narrowed it down to the valve.

 Dan


   
 
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Re: [MBZ] 124 wiper troubleshooting---switch, motor, relay?

2008-05-05 Thread Hendrik Fay
You should be able to pull off the bottom panel and the combo switch 
should go into a terminal near the steering column.
However the switch is pretty reliable but the wiper mechanism is not if 
not maintained.
What about your windshield washer function, if that works then I would 
entertain the possibility of crook switch.

Hendrik
who had to use the wipers today

Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 Trying to figure out why my wiper on the POS 300E doesn't work.
 Symptom is that every other function of the combo switch works
 fine---signals, high beams, windshield washer---but not the wiper, on
 any setting.


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Re: [MBZ] 124 wiper troubleshooting---switch, motor, relay?

2008-05-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Hendrik  Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You should be able to pull off the bottom panel and the combo switch
  should go into a terminal near the steering column.
  However the switch is pretty reliable but the wiper mechanism is not if
  not maintained.
  What about your windshield washer function, if that works then I would
  entertain the possibility of crook switch.

Washer works.  You mean the combo switch is replaceable without
pulling the wheel?  I was dreading having to deal with the airbag.

Alex Chamberlain
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[MBZ] 92 300TE and 1 93 300E

2008-05-05 Thread Dave H...
SUCCESS!  Well at least partial.   

The 93 300E now has working headlight wipers.  The raised dot on the US 
Headlight is a royal pain, though.

Located and repaired a bad relay.

Thanks for the guidance folks.  


Dave H...
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