[PAYCO] RE:

2010-05-18 Thread Jaki Seroke
RComrades I support the sentiment expressed and the need to bring to the fore the true patriotic heroes who left an imprint of their contributions to change South Africa. David Sibeko mobilised the entire world at the UN to actively support the struggle against apartheid and settler coloni

RE: [PAYCO] Re: KA-PLAATJIE JOINS ANC

2010-06-08 Thread Jaki Seroke
Jean Paul Satre once said: "Words are loaded pistols". The mindless use of language and misuse of concepts that are half digested often have a lasting detrimental effect on those that we seek to mobilise. What amuses me is the choice of words used by Moloto earlier on in which he copies expres

RE: [PAYCO] THE STRUGGLE TO REBUILD THE PAC

2010-07-28 Thread Jaki Seroke
ust put their shoulder to the wheel and work to change and bring about a good quality of life to the African people. We must demonstrate that potential by first transforming and repositioning the PAC. Jaki Seroke Subject: [PAYCO] Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:38:27 +0200 From: msib

RE: [PAYCO]

2010-08-04 Thread Jaki Seroke
an people expect from us - we who are committed to the PAC's objectives and are in the Africanist school of thought - is to get our house in order. No stupid rantings and no flies. Izwe lethu iAfrika. Jaki Seroke Subject: [PAYCO] Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:26:20 +

[PAYCO] WE WILL WIN

2010-08-17 Thread Jaki Seroke
kana died last week. He is certainly one of my national patriotic heroes. He was not honoured by the state during his lifetime. His contributions to a cultural heritage are immense. I go along with him (and yourself) that We Will Win. Izwe lethu iAfrika. Jaki Seroke > Date: T

RE: [PAYCO]

2010-09-01 Thread Jaki Seroke
Mdu I've received several comments like that from Africanists friends over the weekend, as a response to the ANCYL conference/GNC announcements. You all say the PAC space is been taken over by the Charterists. This also spells the danger of reinventing the PAC in a political climate where

[PAYCO] EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE

2010-09-02 Thread Jaki Seroke
social activity. There are leading psychiatric expects on the subject and tomes of books published . A spelling error on my name is not significant enough. What's in a name? A rose in a different name will smell just as good. William Shakespeare. Izwe lethu iAfrika. Jaki Se

[PAYCO] VUSIMUZI MAKE

2010-09-06 Thread Jaki Seroke
to apply our minds politically we will not revitalise the PAC. If we learnt from the positive contributions of Party leaders such as Vusi Make even minimal damage would be prevented. Izwe lethu iAfrika Jaki seroke Jaki Seroke

[PAYCO] HENRY ISAACS

2010-09-06 Thread Jaki Seroke
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: "Jaki Seroke" Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 18:23:40 To: Mduduzi Sibeko Reply-To: sero...@hotmail.com Subject: HENRY ISAACS Mdu I did not go to exile personally. I published books by Black au

[PAYCO] RE: IDEOLOGY

2010-09-08 Thread Jaki Seroke
time, but society is in constant flux and if we endure and persevere we will have our say understood. Jaki Seroke PS. Your analysis of the crisis of rising food prices and the predicament of the political leadership is the SADC region is spot on. These are the issues we should discuss

Re: [PAYCO] media release statement

2010-10-08 Thread Jaki Seroke
e platform vibrant and relevant, to the benefit of revolutionary Pan Africanism. Jaki Seroke Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Mduduzi Sibeko Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 04:06:16 To: Subject: RE: [PAYCO] media release statement Comr

[PAYCO] KHOISAN X - MEMORIAL AND FUNERAL

2010-10-17 Thread Jaki Seroke
cuments. And accept nothing out of character. Izwe lethu iAfrika. Jaki Seroke -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.co

[PAYCO] SABCNews.com e-mail service [em...@sabcnews.com]

2010-10-25 Thread Jaki Seroke
Headline: Khoisan X laid to rest Abstract: Former Pan African Congress (PAC) secretary general Benny Alexander, also known as Khoisan X has been buried in Kimberley in the Northern Cape today. Article URL: Click on the Link to go to the full Article

[PAYCO] The Bamako Appeal

2010-11-18 Thread Jaki Seroke
> http://www.choike.org/nuevo_eng/informes/3948.htm > Make sharing easier with the AddThis Toolbar: > http://www.addthis.com/go/toolbar-em -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googl

Re: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE PHOTO

2010-11-18 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Mduduzi In this picture, which was taken on Robben Island, Sobukwe met with a delegation of British politicians who were on a state visit. Read the body language: Sobukwe is in charge of the conversation and they are all focused on him. There are other pic never before used from the same ev

RE: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE PHOTO

2010-11-23 Thread Jaki Seroke
9 a...@joburg.org.za http//joburg.org.za/culture/museums-galleries (This letter was sent electronically and is therefore not signed) "Jaki Seroke " Sent by: payco@googlegroups.com 11/18/2010 05:44 PM Please respond to payco To:"Mdu

RE: [PAYCO] Sobukwe and Witwatersrand University

2011-02-09 Thread Jaki Seroke
should read his book. On poisoning, anything happens when you are in captivity. Mothopeng was tortured so badly each time he was detained and arrested I venture to say they knew he wouldn't live long when he was released in 1989. They did not want him to die in their hands. Jaki Seroke

RE: [PAYCO] VICTOR MAYEKISO

2011-03-17 Thread Jaki Seroke
He is an old cadre of the PAC and served in the APLA ranks when the organisation started training recruits militarily from 1964 onwards. He is credited with opening the channels for training guerrillas in Egypt (during Nasser) and in Libya soon after the coup led by Colonel Muamar Gaddafi. I

RE: [PAYCO]

2011-03-18 Thread Jaki Seroke
Mdu I'm told the 6th annual Robert Sobukwe memorial lecture at Fort Hare, delivered yesterday by Kwandiwe Kondlo, was superb. As you'd know, Kondlo made extensive research on the PAC in exile and collated vital records and relevant information for his doctoral thesis done with the Rand Afrik

[PAYCO] SOMETIMES THERE IS A VOID

2011-04-13 Thread Jaki Seroke
Mduduzi Zakes Mda's new book, Sometimes There is a Void - Memoirs of an Outsider, Penguin 2011, is an interesting insight into the author's development and growth as an artist and writer, and an academic teaching creative writing. It is also very revealing on aspects of the life of AP Mda, t

RE: [PAYCO] SOMETIMES THERE IS A VOID

2011-04-14 Thread Jaki Seroke
on your pen. Where you a member of the COSAW, what was the role of this organization in the eighties ? From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jaki Seroke Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 1:26 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] SOMETIMES THERE IS

RE: [PAYCO] ECONOMICS OF POLITICAL FORMATIONS

2011-04-18 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades My take on the points raised - regarding interaction with the Pan Africanists on an international scale, internal party structures needing resources, and related matters on the revival of the PAC - is that we should avoid skimming over the core difficulties and raise the discussions

RE: [PAYCO] JAN SHOBA - APLA HIGH COMMAND

2011-04-30 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades For me, Jan Shoba represents the quality of commitment to national duty that is common among members of Apla leadership in the eighties. They were determined to implement the home going programme for Apla forces, and to re-introduce the PAC as a dynamic entity of the national libera

RE: [PAYCO] ROBERT MCBRIDE

2011-04-30 Thread Jaki Seroke
Ntate Sibeko I experienced difficulties with my laptop and Blackberry for almost two weeks. The system collapsed and the long lay-off in April gave me time to handle challenges to do with my preparations for UNISA exams in May. My apology for not responding to your mails. The outcome of t

RE: [PAYCO] MIKE MUENDANE'S BOOK/S

2011-05-19 Thread Jaki Seroke
ging those who helped get a book published: all faults and responsibility lies with the author. Again, in a broader context, I say let a hundred flowers bloom and let a hundred thoughts contend. Izwe lethu iAfurika Jaki Seroke From: msib...@randwater.co.za To: payco@googlegroups.c

RE: [PAYCO] JOHN DLEVALILE GANYA

2011-06-07 Thread Jaki Seroke
Mnumzana Mduduzi Sibeko Thanks for highlighting the story of Hamilton Naki. The SABC and Mzansi Magic channels flighted documentaries on Hamilton Naki recently, perhaps after pressure to indicate knowledge of the story. Dr Chris Barnard and others can use the apartheid conditions as a cove

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-06-13 Thread Jaki Seroke
Noble sons I'm obsessed with the interpretation of the PAC's historical role in the transformation and change programme for Azania. PAC's purpose is for me what matters most, and if we all do not find common ground in the long term vision and the immediate objectives of the Party, we'll continu

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-06-14 Thread Jaki Seroke
y from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Sebenzile Mlaza Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:56:45 To: ; Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Revolutionary greetings to all, An email hereunder by Comrade Jaki Seroke reminds me of one documentary that was televised on the 19th January 2011 between

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-06-15 Thread Jaki Seroke
Mokgakala mailto:mokgakalaser...@gmail.com> > wrote: Yes Comrade! our voice has always been feared. Please read WhatsouthAfricaneed.docx and send me your opinion. On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Jaki Seroke mailto:sero...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > Bafowethu > > We m

RE: [PAYCO] JOIN THE DEBATE

2011-08-11 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades It is perhaps unfair to expect a high level of debate and discussion on the merits of Pan Africanism as a revolutionary tool of positive action against imperialism, when some of the participants in the forum have not read widely enough or given deep thought on the subject in a way t

RE: [PAYCO] FW:

2011-08-22 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Sbu I had the flu last week and couldn't respond in time to the issues you raised in the your interesting email. Several other topical matters of the day arose, such as the sudden death of Rex Nhongo (Gen Solomon Mujuru) in Zimbabwe and what this implies to ZANU-PF, and the continuing sa

Re: [PAYCO] White and Proud - A comment by a white liberal onWonkie cartoons

2011-08-26 Thread Jaki Seroke
The chief culprit of this falsehood and distortion is prominent sociologist Bernard Magubane. He peddles this point in almost all his books, and in his democracy history series project. White intellectuals are prone to depicting poor peasants and workers (led by their true vanguard, the PAC) as

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-09-05 Thread Jaki Seroke
Arch is trying to speak on their behalf. In reality the tax will never happen because it is a non starter. Izwe lethu iAfurika Jaki Seroke Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Mduduzi Sibeko Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 10:46:26 To: Subject:

[PAYCO] EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE - A LEADERSHIP IMPERATIVE

2011-09-09 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Mduduzi After a nasty experience with my work mates, a friend recommended that I read what was by then a new publication, 'Emotional Intelligence - Why it Matters More than IQ', Bloombury 1996, by Daniel Goleman, a psychiatrist who captured the issues over emotions and leadership and repr

RE: [PAYCO] EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE - A LEADERSHIP IMPERATIVE

2011-09-13 Thread Jaki Seroke
ould come to the meetings accompanied by girlfriends. As Robs recounted, Selby would deal with PK appropriately. I agree, we in the PAC need to learn these things. Of course, “emotions play a major role in the process of thinking, decision-making” From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@goo

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-09-13 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades The PAC has not developed an economic policy document, and taken it through structures for discussion and adoption at a policy conference. What we've had are stop gap documents for elections purposes, and in most of these there hasn't been any feedback and forums to ventilate the issue

[PAYCO] RE: Farewell Bra Joe

2011-09-16 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Tyamzashe Joe Moabi was the Secretary for Finance in the Central Committee of the PAC of Azania in the external mission. It was fitting that at his memorial service at the Holy Family Catholic Church in Spruitview on Wednesday afternoon, many of his comrades and friends, and allies of t

RE: [PAYCO] AfricanCrisis: Diamond last forever, Mandela triumphs, Buthelezi, De Klerk wins

2011-09-26 Thread Jaki Seroke
Mzu The CIA operations in Africa are a clear and present danger, and their impact and influence is without a doubt very powerful. They take various forms and change with the demands of projects and the time and region in which they operate. Not only has the PAC had negative publicity during

Re: [PAYCO] PITIKA NTULI

2011-10-04 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Sibeko I've known Pitika since 1978 when the Swazi government locked up PAC leaders in the area and they were made victims of circumstances, with PK Leballo feeling threatened as Acting President. A friend and comrade, Matsemela Manaka, had links with Bicca Maseko's family in Mbabane and t

RE: [PAYCO] STRATEGIC PLANNING, IMPLEMENTATION AND CONTROL

2012-01-27 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Mduduzi I had an interesting discussion with a young revolutionary Pan Africanist early in the first week of this month. He posed the rubric that what was essential in sorting out the perennial difficulties of the PAC as a political party and its association with the worldwide Pan Africa

RE: [PAYCO]

2012-02-22 Thread Jaki Seroke
A quick response to your concerns: Anyone who has not read or came across the rubric (the framing of the discourse) on why the Pan Africans rejected the Muscovite communism will always assume - as the press has always done - that the PAC and its associates are against the ideals of a new societ

RE: [PAYCO]

2012-02-22 Thread Jaki Seroke
let your email find you!From: Jaki Seroke Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:31:57 +0200To: ReplyTo: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] A quick response to your concerns: Anyone who has not read or came across the rubric (the framing of the discourse)

RE: [PAYCO]

2012-03-23 Thread Jaki Seroke
M'afrika Christine Qunta, an Africanist who served on the SABC Board during the Thabo Mbeki era, should be congratulated for the success in insisting that the public broadcaster spend up to R4m on the documentary. The outcomes of the work done, and the footage makes for interesting viewing and

RE: [PAYCO]

2012-03-26 Thread Jaki Seroke
Mduduzi I realise the widespread lack of information and knowledge, even among some of our own comrades, which leads others to speak out of turn, sometimes misrepresenting facts and appearing dull and dour when subjects they are supposed to be familiar with are discussed in the open. We should

Re: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE WILL NEVER DIE

2012-04-03 Thread Jaki Seroke
In Manning Marable's "Malcom X - A Life of Reinvention" (2011) the eminent academic compares Malcolm to Sobukwe. He deals with myth and falsehoods in the media on the life of Malcom X. Relate this development to the silence on Malcolm X that dominated Black America for more than two decades a

Re: RE: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE WILL NEVER DIE

2012-04-04 Thread Jaki Seroke
reated by apartheid. Are we communist in disguise ?   From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:28 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: Sbu Xaba; Jaki Seroke Subject: Re: RE: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE WILL NEVER DIE  

[PAYCO] Fw: Organisational cultural characteristics

2012-04-20 Thread Jaki Seroke
ts. This is why I found the inputs and follow through on Mmbara and Sibeko quite enriching and inspiring to the cause of sustaining the Lembede-Sobukwe-Biko political legacy. Jaki Seroke Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.

[PAYCO] PAC and AZAPO on etv's the JUSTICE FACTOR

2012-05-06 Thread Jaki Seroke
y can do harakiri (the Japanese method of suicide) by warriors who shamed and dishonored their great movement. Jaki Seroke Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-uns

[PAYCO] PROF KWANDIWE KONDLO ON SACP

2012-05-18 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades Sibeko and Xaba Kwandile Kondlo's inaugural lecture at the University of the Free State is highly significant, including his choice of topic - 'At the Point of a Needle : The SACP and the dilemma of the National Democratic Revolution in SA, 1994 to date'. Many local academics

Re: [PAYCO] Black people are incapable of being racists

2012-05-23 Thread Jaki Seroke
Good day I find that Andile's comments are spot on. In today's heteronomy (plural society), political and economic power is skewed in favour of the descendants of foreign invasion. Politically, the dominating views are based on a falsehood propounded by the strictures of the 1956 Kliptown Char

Re: [PAYCO] PROF KWANDIWE KONDLO ON SACP

2012-05-23 Thread Jaki Seroke
acom - let your email find you! -Original Message----- From: Jaki Seroke Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 12:08:25 To: Subject: [PAYCO] PROF KWANDIWE KONDLO ON SACP Comrades Sibeko and Xaba   Kwandile Kondlo's inaugural lecture at the University of the Free State is highly significant, inc

[PAYCO] REMEMBER AFRICA EXHIBITION - CONSTITUTION HILL

2012-06-22 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades and friends Last night I attended the opening of the Remember Africa Exhibition at the Old Fort Prison in Braamfontein, Jozi (This is at the new Constitution Hill, at the Contitutional Court site). I had also been asked to speak on behalf of Mme Veronica Sobukwe and the Robert Mangali

RE: [PAYCO] Emailing: 6 MAY RUSTENBURG REVIEW FINAL EDIT.pdf

2012-08-21 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades TT and Nkrumah The Benchmark Research gives a detailed background to the conditions which formed the basis of mass protests by the communities in Rustenburg and surrounding areas, and Nkrumah lays out the internal conflicts in the mines between management and the unions on the on

RE: [PAYCO] Emailing: 6 MAY RUSTENBURG REVIEW FINAL EDIT.pdf

2012-08-23 Thread Jaki Seroke
he national question, we seriously and urgently need to get our house back on track. Izwe lethu ...i-AfrikaSebenzile From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jaki Seroke Sent: 21 August 2012 12:06 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Emailing: 6 MA

[PAYCO] THE INTRINSIC VALUE OF EACH CITIZEN IN SA

2012-09-19 Thread Jaki Seroke
M'afrika Mduduzi Sibeko The republic of South Africa is often described in glorious terms in international forums for a variety of reasons. The core issues that negatively affect the lives of its citizens are mostly ignored in the very same circles, and when a social implosion occurs the analy

RE: [PAYCO] THE INTRINSIC VALUE OF EACH CITIZEN IN SA

2012-09-20 Thread Jaki Seroke
et. From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jaki Seroke Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:03 AM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] THE INTRINSIC VALUE OF EACH CITIZEN IN SA M'afrika Mduduzi Sibeko The republic of South Africa is often des

RE: [PAYCO]

2012-09-21 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades Thabo Mbeki's leadership had its ups and downs, and it even affected our political space in the Africanist school of thought because he usurped that position. In a way he became more Catholic than the Pope. He even used some of our best brains to articulate changes in the new leaders

RE: [PAYCO] Digest for payco@googlegroups.com - 6 Messages in 5 Topics

2012-09-24 Thread Jaki Seroke
I stand in full agreement with the suggestions made by Comrade Abdurrahman Nelson. I have also had several conversations with Pan-Africanists who are assigned by their work places for periods of time to work in areas like Tanzania and Nigeria in east and west Africa respectively, and they ex

[PAYCO] THE MATTHEW EFFECT

2012-12-07 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades I have to say I've come to regard the Party leadership (especially between the years 1978 and 1985) with great respect for their valiant efforts to sustain the PAC's Mission in Exile and to maintain the continued recognition by the OAU, the UN and other world bodies when the Charterist

[PAYCO] BACK TO THE FUTURE

2012-12-10 Thread Jaki Seroke
Several months back, Mark Shinners made reference to the nub of a discussion held by the PAC leadership in prison in the mid-eighties, to make a point with me on who really owns the Pan Africanist Congress of Azania. I recall that I had participated in the debate in writing but had lost the ta

RE: [PAYCO] THE MATTHEW EFFECT

2012-12-11 Thread Jaki Seroke
ive Representative Council. Now the ANC during its centenary hullabaloos, the so-called centenary celebrations is calling upon the South African public to honour the legacy of such shady and unscrupulous characters in the liberation struggle. Izwe lethu... i-Afrika!!! Sebenzile Mlaza --- On

Re: [PAYCO] POST 1976 UNDERGOUND WORK

2013-01-04 Thread Jaki Seroke
n political mobilization.48   Just like in the 1960s after the banning of black political organizations, the government's offensive against the BC movement had managed to instill fear in many people. It was for this reason that Jaki Seroke, who later joined the PAC, established a readi

Re: [PAYCO] Hostile attitude towards socialism/communism is anchored on sheer ignorance

2013-01-10 Thread Jaki Seroke
We will obviously get nowhere if we discuss the ideological standpoint of the PAC using the current shipwreck as a reference point. This is the arena where ignorance, obfuscation and political bankruptcy holds sway. Pan Africanism, as a world-wide movement, is a united front. All tendencies and

Re: [PAYCO] Prince Osagyefo Jinika Is No More

2013-02-08 Thread Jaki Seroke
, Kwame Nkrumah and Kwame Toure. The sad news of his sudden passing hits home very hard. They also mean a re-awakening to his push for a well organised and ideologically sound PAC. Izwe lethu iAfrika. Jaki Seroke Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message

Re: [PAYCO] PAC POSITION TOWARDS PAYCO CONGRESS

2013-02-14 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Lebo I find it difficult to grasp the primary issue PAYCO and the Narius Moloto's office are trying to resolve. Are they working out a merger of PAYCO and PAC Youth League on the basis of the Ga-Matlala congress amended constitution that is now resorted to by the PAC establishment? Is th

RE: [PAYCO]

2013-03-22 Thread Jaki Seroke
Dr Motsoko Pheko used the name Ethel Kopung and David Dube as his pen names in the sixties, seventies and eighties. He published books using these and other names. From: msib...@randwater.co.za To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 23:22:29 + Cde Serok

[PAYCO] MXOLISI ACE MGXASHE - 1944-2013

2013-07-22 Thread Jaki Seroke
butions. Another son of the soil has fallen. Izwe Jaki Seroke -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/gro

RE: [PAYCO]

2013-11-12 Thread Jaki Seroke
athon road ahead. I wish you all the best in the Daveyton branch. The road is much longer. Izwe lethu iAfrika Jaki Seroke From: msib...@randwater.co.za To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 19:15:57 + Cde Nkrumah, Ndebele, Seroke It is almost t

RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO

2013-11-15 Thread Jaki Seroke
port and making ourselves different on an authentic basis is an imperative we cannot avoid. Izwe Jaki Seroke Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:33:43 +0200 Subject: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO From: fikis...@gmail.com To: payco@googlegroups.com Ma'Afrika Attac

RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO

2013-11-15 Thread Jaki Seroke
port and making ourselves different on an authentic basis is an imperative we cannot avoid. Izwe Jaki Seroke Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:33:43 +0200 Subject: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO From: fikis...@gmail.com To: payco@googlegroups.com Ma'Afrika Attac

RE: [PAYCO]

2013-12-09 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Sibeko I should say that I understand and agree with the sentiment not to make an outburst and miscalculated statement on Nelson Mandela during the mourning period when the glare and attention of the nation and the rest of the world is concerned about his passing. But I am a disciplined Afr