RComrades
I support the sentiment expressed and the need to bring to the fore the true
patriotic heroes who left an imprint of their contributions to change South
Africa. David Sibeko mobilised the entire world at the UN to actively support
the struggle against apartheid and settler coloni
Jean Paul Satre once said: "Words are loaded pistols". The mindless use of
language and misuse of concepts that are half digested often have a lasting
detrimental effect on those that we seek to mobilise. What amuses me is the
choice of words used by Moloto earlier on in which he copies expres
ust put their shoulder to the wheel and work
to change and bring about a good quality of life to the African people. We
must demonstrate that potential by first transforming and repositioning the
PAC.
Jaki Seroke
Subject: [PAYCO]
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:38:27 +0200
From: msib
an
people expect from us - we who are committed to the PAC's objectives and are in
the Africanist school of thought - is to get our house in order. No stupid
rantings and no flies.
Izwe lethu iAfrika.
Jaki Seroke
Subject: [PAYCO]
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:26:20 +
kana died
last week. He is certainly one of my national patriotic heroes. He was not
honoured by the state during his lifetime. His contributions to a cultural
heritage are immense. I go along with him (and yourself) that We Will Win.
Izwe lethu iAfrika.
Jaki Seroke
> Date: T
Mdu
I've received several comments like that from Africanists friends over the
weekend, as a response to the ANCYL conference/GNC announcements. You all say
the PAC space is been taken over by the Charterists. This also spells the
danger of reinventing the PAC in a political climate where
social activity. There are leading psychiatric expects on the subject and
tomes of books published . A spelling error on my name is not significant
enough. What's in a name? A rose in a different name will smell just as good.
William Shakespeare.
Izwe lethu iAfrika.
Jaki Se
to apply our
minds politically we will not revitalise the PAC.
If we learnt from the positive contributions of Party leaders such as Vusi Make
even minimal damage would be prevented.
Izwe lethu iAfrika
Jaki seroke
Jaki Seroke
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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 18:23:40
To: Mduduzi Sibeko
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Subject: HENRY ISAACS
Mdu
I did not go to exile personally. I published books by Black au
time, but society is in constant flux
and if we endure and persevere we will have our say understood.
Jaki Seroke
PS. Your analysis of the crisis of rising food prices and the predicament of
the political leadership is the SADC region is spot on. These are the issues
we should discuss
e platform vibrant and relevant, to the benefit of
revolutionary Pan Africanism.
Jaki Seroke
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 04:06:16
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cuments. And accept nothing out of character.
Izwe lethu iAfrika.
Jaki Seroke
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Headline: Khoisan X laid to rest
Abstract: Former Pan African Congress (PAC) secretary general Benny Alexander,
also known as Khoisan X has been buried in Kimberley in the Northern Cape today.
Article URL: Click on the Link to go to the full Article
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In this picture, which was taken on Robben Island, Sobukwe met with a
delegation of British politicians who were on a state visit. Read the body
language: Sobukwe is in charge of the conversation and they are all focused on
him. There are other pic never before used from the same ev
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http//joburg.org.za/culture/museums-galleries
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should read his book. On poisoning, anything happens
when you are in captivity. Mothopeng was tortured so badly each time he was
detained and arrested I venture to say they knew he wouldn't live long when he
was released in 1989. They did not want him to die in their hands.
Jaki Seroke
He is an old cadre of the PAC and served in the APLA ranks when the
organisation started training recruits militarily from 1964 onwards. He is
credited with opening the channels for training guerrillas in Egypt (during
Nasser) and in Libya soon after the coup led by Colonel Muamar Gaddafi. I
Mdu
I'm told the 6th annual Robert Sobukwe memorial lecture at Fort Hare, delivered
yesterday by Kwandiwe Kondlo, was superb. As you'd know, Kondlo made extensive
research on the PAC in exile and collated vital records and relevant
information for his doctoral thesis done with the Rand Afrik
Mduduzi
Zakes Mda's new book, Sometimes There is a Void - Memoirs of an Outsider,
Penguin 2011, is an interesting insight into the author's development and
growth as an artist and writer, and an academic teaching creative writing. It
is also very revealing on aspects of the life of AP Mda, t
on your
pen. Where you a member of the COSAW, what was the role of this organization in
the eighties ?
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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 1:26 PM
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Subject: [PAYCO] SOMETIMES THERE IS
Comrades
My take on the points raised - regarding interaction with the Pan Africanists
on an international scale, internal party structures needing resources, and
related matters on the revival of the PAC - is that we should avoid skimming
over the core difficulties and raise the discussions
Comrades
For me, Jan Shoba represents the quality of commitment to national duty that is
common among members of Apla leadership in the eighties. They were determined
to implement the home going programme for Apla forces, and to re-introduce the
PAC as a dynamic entity of the national libera
Ntate Sibeko
I experienced difficulties with my laptop and Blackberry for almost two weeks.
The system collapsed and the long lay-off in April gave me time to handle
challenges to do with my preparations for UNISA exams in May. My apology for
not responding to your mails.
The outcome of t
ging those who helped get a book published: all
faults and responsibility lies with the author.
Again, in a broader context, I say let a hundred flowers bloom and let a
hundred thoughts contend.
Izwe lethu iAfurika
Jaki Seroke
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Mnumzana Mduduzi Sibeko
Thanks for highlighting the story of Hamilton Naki. The SABC and Mzansi Magic
channels flighted documentaries on Hamilton Naki recently, perhaps after
pressure to indicate knowledge of the story. Dr Chris Barnard and others can
use the apartheid conditions as a cove
Noble sons
I'm obsessed with the interpretation of the PAC's historical role in the
transformation and change programme for Azania. PAC's purpose is for me what
matters most, and if we all do not find common ground in the long term vision
and the immediate objectives of the Party, we'll continu
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Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:56:45
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Subject: RE: [PAYCO]
Revolutionary greetings to all,
An email hereunder by Comrade Jaki Seroke reminds me of one documentary that
was televised on the 19th January 2011 between
Mokgakala mailto:mokgakalaser...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Yes Comrade! our voice has always been feared. Please read
WhatsouthAfricaneed.docx and send me your opinion.
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Jaki Seroke mailto:sero...@hotmail.com> > wrote:
> Bafowethu
>
> We m
Comrades
It is perhaps unfair to expect a high level of debate and discussion on the
merits of Pan Africanism as a revolutionary tool of positive action against
imperialism, when some of the participants in the forum have not read widely
enough or given deep thought on the subject in a way t
Cde Sbu
I had the flu last week and couldn't respond in time to the issues you raised
in the your interesting email. Several other topical matters of the day arose,
such as the sudden death of Rex Nhongo (Gen Solomon Mujuru) in Zimbabwe and
what this implies to ZANU-PF, and the continuing sa
The chief culprit of this falsehood and distortion is prominent sociologist
Bernard Magubane. He peddles this point in almost all his books, and in his
democracy history series project. White intellectuals are prone to depicting
poor peasants and workers (led by their true vanguard, the PAC) as
Arch is trying to speak on their
behalf. In reality the tax will never happen because it is a non starter.
Izwe lethu iAfurika
Jaki Seroke
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Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 10:46:26
To:
Subject:
Cde Mduduzi
After a nasty experience with my work mates, a friend recommended that I read
what was by then a new publication, 'Emotional Intelligence - Why it Matters
More than IQ', Bloombury 1996, by Daniel Goleman, a psychiatrist who captured
the issues over emotions and leadership and repr
ould come to the meetings accompanied by
girlfriends. As Robs recounted, Selby would deal with PK appropriately. I
agree, we in the PAC need to learn these things. Of course, “emotions play a
major role in the process of thinking, decision-making”
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Comrades
The PAC has not developed an economic policy document, and taken it through
structures for discussion and adoption at a policy conference. What we've had
are stop gap documents for elections purposes, and in most of these there
hasn't been any feedback and forums to ventilate the issue
Cde Tyamzashe
Joe Moabi was the Secretary for Finance in the Central Committee of the PAC of
Azania in the external mission. It was fitting that at his memorial service at
the Holy Family Catholic Church in Spruitview on Wednesday afternoon, many of
his comrades and friends, and allies of t
Mzu
The CIA operations in Africa are a clear and present danger, and their impact
and influence is without a doubt very powerful. They take various forms and
change with the demands of projects and the time and region in which they
operate. Not only has the PAC had negative publicity during
Cde Sibeko
I've known Pitika since 1978 when the Swazi government locked up PAC leaders in
the area and they were made victims of circumstances, with PK Leballo feeling
threatened as Acting President. A friend and comrade, Matsemela Manaka, had
links with Bicca Maseko's family in Mbabane and t
Cde Mduduzi
I had an interesting discussion with a young revolutionary Pan Africanist early
in the first week of this month. He posed the rubric that what was essential
in sorting out the perennial difficulties of the PAC as a political party and
its association with the worldwide Pan Africa
A quick response to your concerns: Anyone who has not read or came across the
rubric (the framing of the discourse) on why the Pan Africans rejected the
Muscovite communism will always assume - as the press has always done - that
the PAC and its associates are against the ideals of a new societ
let your email find you!From: Jaki
Seroke
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A quick response to your concerns:
Anyone who has not read or came across the rubric (the framing of the
discourse)
M'afrika Christine Qunta, an Africanist who served on the SABC Board during the
Thabo Mbeki era, should be congratulated for the success in insisting that the
public broadcaster spend up to R4m on the documentary. The outcomes of the
work done, and the footage makes for interesting viewing and
Mduduzi I realise the widespread lack of information and knowledge, even among
some of our own comrades, which leads others to speak out of turn, sometimes
misrepresenting facts and appearing dull and dour when subjects they are
supposed to be familiar with are discussed in the open. We should
In Manning Marable's "Malcom X - A Life of Reinvention" (2011) the eminent
academic compares Malcolm to Sobukwe. He deals with myth and falsehoods in the
media on the life of Malcom X.
Relate this development to the silence on Malcolm X that dominated Black
America for more than two decades a
reated by apartheid. Are we communist in disguise ?
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ts. This is why I found the inputs and follow through on Mmbara
and Sibeko quite enriching and inspiring to the cause of sustaining the
Lembede-Sobukwe-Biko political legacy.
Jaki Seroke
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Comrades Sibeko and Xaba
Kwandile Kondlo's inaugural lecture at the University of the Free State is
highly significant, including his choice of topic - 'At the Point of a Needle :
The SACP and the dilemma of the National Democratic Revolution in SA, 1994 to
date'.
Many local academics
Good day
I find that Andile's comments are spot on. In today's heteronomy (plural
society), political and economic power is skewed in favour of the descendants
of foreign invasion.
Politically, the dominating views are based on a falsehood propounded by the
strictures of the 1956 Kliptown Char
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Subject: [PAYCO] PROF KWANDIWE KONDLO ON SACP
Comrades Sibeko and Xaba
Kwandile Kondlo's inaugural lecture at the University of the Free State is
highly significant, inc
Comrades and friends
Last night I attended the opening of the Remember Africa Exhibition at the Old
Fort Prison in Braamfontein, Jozi (This is at the new Constitution Hill, at the
Contitutional Court site). I had also been asked to speak on behalf of Mme
Veronica Sobukwe and the Robert Mangali
Comrades TT and Nkrumah
The Benchmark Research gives a detailed background to the conditions which
formed the basis of mass protests by the communities in Rustenburg and
surrounding areas, and Nkrumah lays out the internal conflicts in the mines
between management and the unions on the on
he
national question, we seriously and urgently need to get our house back on
track. Izwe lethu ...i-AfrikaSebenzile From: payco@googlegroups.com
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M'afrika Mduduzi Sibeko
The republic of South Africa is often described in glorious terms in
international forums for a variety of reasons. The core issues that negatively
affect the lives of its citizens are mostly ignored in the very same circles,
and when a social implosion occurs the analy
et.
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M'afrika Mduduzi Sibeko
The republic of South Africa is often des
Comrades
Thabo Mbeki's leadership had its ups and downs, and it even affected our
political space in the Africanist school of thought because he usurped that
position. In a way he became more Catholic than the Pope. He even used some
of our best brains to articulate changes in the new leaders
I stand in full agreement with the suggestions made by Comrade Abdurrahman
Nelson. I have also had several conversations with Pan-Africanists who are
assigned by their work places for periods of time to work in areas like
Tanzania and Nigeria in east and west Africa respectively, and they ex
Comrades
I have to say I've come to regard the Party leadership (especially between the
years 1978 and 1985) with great respect for their valiant efforts to sustain
the PAC's Mission in Exile and to maintain the continued recognition by the
OAU, the UN and other world bodies when the Charterist
Several months back, Mark Shinners made reference to the nub of a discussion
held by the PAC leadership in prison in the mid-eighties, to make a point with
me on who really owns the Pan Africanist Congress of Azania. I recall that I
had participated in the debate in writing but had lost the ta
ive Representative Council.
Now the ANC during its centenary hullabaloos, the so-called centenary
celebrations is calling upon the South African public to honour the legacy of
such shady and unscrupulous characters in the liberation struggle.
Izwe lethu... i-Afrika!!!
Sebenzile Mlaza
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mobilization.48
Just like in the 1960s after the banning of black political organizations, the
government's offensive against the BC movement had managed to instill fear in
many people. It was for this reason that Jaki Seroke, who later joined the PAC,
established a readi
We will obviously get nowhere if we discuss the ideological standpoint of the
PAC using the current shipwreck as a reference point. This is the arena where
ignorance, obfuscation and political bankruptcy holds sway.
Pan Africanism, as a world-wide movement, is a united front. All tendencies and
, Kwame Nkrumah and Kwame Toure. The sad news of his sudden
passing hits home very hard. They also mean a re-awakening to his push for a
well organised and ideologically sound PAC.
Izwe lethu iAfrika.
Jaki Seroke
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Cde Lebo
I find it difficult to grasp the primary issue PAYCO and the Narius Moloto's
office are trying to resolve.
Are they working out a merger of PAYCO and PAC Youth League on the basis of the
Ga-Matlala congress amended constitution that is now resorted to by the PAC
establishment?
Is th
Dr Motsoko Pheko used the name Ethel Kopung and David Dube as his pen names in
the sixties, seventies and eighties. He published books using these and other
names.
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Cde Serok
butions.
Another son of the soil has fallen.
Izwe
Jaki Seroke
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road ahead.
I wish you all the best in the Daveyton branch. The road is much longer.
Izwe lethu iAfrika
Jaki Seroke
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Cde Nkrumah, Ndebele, Seroke
It is almost t
port and making ourselves different on an authentic basis is an imperative
we cannot avoid.
Izwe
Jaki Seroke
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:33:43 +0200
Subject: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO
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Ma'Afrika Attac
port and making ourselves different on an authentic basis is an imperative
we cannot avoid.
Izwe
Jaki Seroke
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:33:43 +0200
Subject: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO
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Ma'Afrika Attac
Cde Sibeko
I should say that I understand and agree with the sentiment not to make an
outburst and miscalculated statement on Nelson Mandela during the mourning
period when the glare and attention of the nation and the rest of the world is
concerned about his passing. But I am a disciplined Afr
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