On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 06:38:18PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 12:58:57PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner
wrote:
I was under the impression that dh would set the strip options in
the $(INSTALL_PROGRAM) for the
not currently
needing any patches: if at some point upstream code is changed -
accidentally or deliberately - we want it to be treated by packaging
routines as a patch, not a change by upstream.
Ah, one thing: Since it wasn't put to the archive yet, I didn't add a
new changelog entry,
orm dh" feature introduced
in debhelper 7.
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On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 12:18:27PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 12:58:57PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner
wrote:
[snip]
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 01:07 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I am wondering about
an "official" stand of
Debian here, just a personal interpretation. For a more in-depth
consideration from the viewpoint of Debian, I recommend to ask questions
at the debian-le...@lists.debian.org rather than here :-)
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Hi,
xvidcore packaging (not in Debian but Git at this team at Alioth) is
currently broken: huge autoconf patch cause syntax error in shell code.
Would anyone mind that I fix it and ensure this kind of breakage can't
happen again, using CDBS?
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On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 03:18:50PM +0200, Alessio Treglia wrote:
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Would anyone mind that I fix it and ensure this kind of breakage
can't happen again, using CDBS?
Could we solve these issue by using dh-autoreconf?
Well, you te
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 10:49:44AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
Am Samstag, den 11.09.2010, 14:19 +0200 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:
Would anyone mind that I fix it and ensure this kind of breakage
can't happen again, using CDBS?
Eiter the patch needs to be regenerated or autoconf needs
have been autogenerated by dpkg-buildpackage), to
let git-buildpackage regenerate a new proper one from your upstream +
pristine-tar branches.
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uld help is to file bugreports against the package currently
targeted testing, and then tag those bugs as closed by the newer
release. That is the easiest way to help the release team judge if an
exception should be made for this package.
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On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 09:40:10AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
Am 12.09.2010 12:03, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:
Applying CDBS without asking first would be considered outragous, I
suspect.
You betcha!
Not offering my help to avoid mentioning CDBS would be ridiculous.
Hint: Offer your
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:29:18AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
Am 13.09.2010 11:20, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:
From now on I will stay away whenever my intended help involves CDBS
(for packages not already using it), as that is essentially what you
tell me to do.
I am not *telling* you
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jonas Smedegaard
* Package name: gst-entrans
Version : 0.10.2
Upstream Author : Mark Nauwelaerts
* URL : http://gentrans.sourceforge.net/
* License : GPL-2+
Programming Lang: C, Python
Description : transcoding
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:06:53PM +0200, Alessio Treglia wrote:
Jonas,
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
From now on I will stay away whenever my intended help involves CDBS
(for packages not already using it), as that is essentially what you
tell me to do.
I
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:55:02PM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
On Mo, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:53:22 (CEST), Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I did *not* at this time suggest others to convert to CDBS - I
offered to do it myself. Instead, I did 2 things: a) pointed out a
problem, and b) offered to solve
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 01:52:05PM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
Although I have not been asked directly, I feel free to respond.
sure :-)
Am 13.09.2010 13:04, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:
* I will no longer offer my help with issues that could be solved
using either short-form dh or CDBS
dh.
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On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 02:44:38PM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
Am 13.09.2010 14:29, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:
Could someone perhaps suggest me a better way of expressing this
standpoint of mine, to avoid similar misunderstanding another time in
another context?
To bring this discussion to
am build routines, as seems to be the case here.
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Is it just me, or was above email sent only cc the Multimedia team (i.e.
without a To: field at all)?
If you are asking the team for permission, then I'd say yes - it looks
fine to me.
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On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:52:57AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 16:34 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 08:55:15AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
>On Sep 13, 2010, at 6:06 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>
>>On 2010-09-12
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:34:02PM -0400, Andres Mejia wrote:
This reminds me. I should now report a bug to CDBS about this.
I have a feeling we shouldn't discuss CDBS on this list. I suggest you
file that bugreport and let us discuss there instead.
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(quilt) - even for packages not currently using patches - and add
the following info to debian/source/local-options:
unapply-patches = True
abort-on-uptream-changes = True
Warning: This is completely untested. Just written based on above blog
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On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:29:42PM -0400, Andres Mejia wrote:
On Wednesday 15 September 2010 07:40:56 Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I hereby propose that we recommend generally switching to source
format 3.0 (quilt) - even for packages not currently using patches -
and add the following info to
e actual announcement emails sent to
debian-devel-annou...@lists.debian.org.
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nayone needs more reasoning to the changes.
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= bzip2
pristine-tar = True
+
+[git-dch]
+meta = True
Wauw - interesting!
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On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:16:01AM +0200, Adrian Knoth wrote:
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:00:29AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 09:43:38PM +,
adiknoth-gu...@users.alioth.debian.org wrote:
Add Breaks: to ffado-tools.
According to policy 7.6.1, Breaks is
apparantly it's still not in upstream...
...and I would love to improve CDBS in this exact area - just needed a
good candidate package to gain knowledge in this area. :-)
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On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 02:17:04PM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
On 2010-09-28 14:14, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
On 2010-09-28 13:46, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Yeah! I need this very functionality. Awesome!
cool.
btw, i have a gstreamer element "gst-v4l2loopback" to interface
remind me again and again until I get around to
check your packaging :-)
This week I am in Budapest, busy with a theater project involving sms,
where it is unlikely that I find time in-between for Debian work...
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-free code.
If, on the other hand, the exact same old code has been relicensed
upstream, then we need not even a patch: It is enough to clarify in
debian/copyright the upstream statement on the relicensing.
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t to help
make it available to them.
But have promised to help with other packages too, and my TODO list is
piling up :-/
So have patience, perhaps try persuade others to work with you too, and
do ping me if you feel I am taking too long to get back to you on this.
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On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 11:21:03PM -0400, Alexandre Quessy wrote:
I'll upload it to the team's "toonloop" repository, OK?
Yes, please do. (thought you'd done that already). :-)
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+Vcs-Git: git://git.debian.org/pkg-multimedia/toonloop
I believe this change (the vcs-git line) is wrong.
How so? In which case(s) do the shorter URL fail to work?
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On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 07:56:56AM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote:
On 10/11/2010 02:13 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 01:48:07PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote:
On 10/11/2010 06:48 AM, j...@users.alioth.debian.org wrote:
Shorten Vcs-* stanzas.
[snip]
-Vcs-Git: git
more appropriate in a README.Debian file.
+ See http://toonloop.com for more about Toonloop.
This is superfluous: Should already be declared in Homepage: stanza.
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silence lintian without a good reason!
I am tuning the packaging now with some CDBS niftyness. Just revert if
you disagree with any of them - preferrably explaining why.
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On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 11:56:36AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:27:40AM -0400, Alexandre Quessy wrote:
By the way this project is very simple for now. It contains:
* executable
* man page
* desktop file
* icon
* Debian menu entry
* copyright, readme, etc.
Anything
command:
DEB_MAINTAINER_MODE=1 fakeroot debian/rules clean
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On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 11:51:52AM -0400, Alexandre Quessy wrote:
One more thing:
On 10-10-16 08:42 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 11:56:36AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I am preparing an upload now.
I think you should run git-buildpackage --git-tag-only to tag the
ne that happening :-)
PD: ah! I already cerated an alioth account and subscribed
pkg-multimedia-maintainers and pkg-multimedia-commits mailing list.
Excellent!
Please also read our pages at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia if
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approaches that I have tried on other packages, but none of them without
flaws, so I am genuinely curious how you'd do it.
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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 05:17:05PM +0200, Alessio Treglia wrote:
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
How did you plan to handle old SVN packaging history?
It is not a trick question - I do have some ideas myself - several
approaches that I have tried on other packages
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 09:28:43AM +0200, Alessio Treglia wrote:
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
After the "initial upstream branch" commit close to the end, but
before force-merging with master, please try apply all but newest
upstream tarballs fetched usi
package here on the list.
Just nitpicking, and just a suggestion: tell me if you find such
comments annoying, and I shall avoid it in the future.
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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:34:35AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
Am 20.10.2010 11:20, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:
Agreed - except nitpicking at the end: We should not point to
locations outside Debian ever :-)
Sure. However, as soon as lame is accepted into Debian, audacity
should Recommends
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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:00:03PM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
Am 20.10.2010 11:46, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:
I fail to understand the "however" in above.
We should not point to locations outside Debian. Period.
Yes, I just wanted to express my agreement with you by repeating
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:42:22PM +0200, Adrian Knoth wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:06:10PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Current packaging of FFADO is versioned 2.0.1+svn1856-1 which
supposedly means "Upstream officially released 2.0.1, merged with
subsequent SVN rev. 1856, with ou
per
to help improve debtags tagging!
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first is not: We've
generally decided (as I understand it) to build against jack1 and only
favor jack2 daemon at runtime.
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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:15:01PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 20:07, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:14:15PM +,
danstowell-gu...@users.alioth.debian.org wrote:
Can build against jack2 as well as jack1
- libjack-dev (>= 0.100),
+ libj
proach:
4. Make all jack implementations provide: libjack${tag}-dev.
This is what was done in the past with libjack0.100.0-dev.
We need not change anything now, just use a more meaningful tag than ""
next time we want to bump.
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:1 for upstream comment.
This should then be a suggests only, I believe: vlc works fine without
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Also, I believe that approach is no longer necessary, as it seems we can
now request arch-specific binNMUs (although I haven't tried it myself,
just noticed others doing it)
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being a DM might make that list of remaining ITPs that I've posted
look less daunting ;-)
Any time is a good time!
Go for it!!
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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 04:20:42PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Oct 25, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 01:56:08PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner
wrote:
Also, on a related topic, I want to become a Debian Maintainer, so I
was wondering if now would
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 08:18:23PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote:
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 14:09, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 01:36:09PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote:
1. Make all jack implementations provide: libjack-dev. This leaves
us with unversionable build-depends
sions.
[0]
http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org/msg05711.html
Thanks for elaborating.
Please, Allessio, ask questions here on the list instead of in changelog
entries!
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ctory with that name
in any subdir too!
I recommend to add a leading slash: "/.pc".
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give me the "OK" in case you agree. ;)
Go!
(speaking for myself only, obviously)
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thing less generic, to allow people to require jackd1 if
they really need to.
I think noone disagrees with that. Note "right now" and similar
expressions in Adrians text that you quoted here above. :-)
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* Tlf.: +45
/debian/patches/01-export_statements.patch
@@ -1,3 +1,6 @@
+Description: Drop all unnecessary 'export' statements.
+Author: Alessio Treglia
+Forwarded: not-needed
Please elaborate - in the bug header, not (only) here - on why
forwarding is not needed.
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slash (/) is required, like this: http://jamin.sourceforge.net/
(and no, you need not commit that particular change as two commits, as
you already ruined the ability to cherry-pick/revert the underlying
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On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:13:06AM +0200, Alessio Treglia wrote:
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Please commit changes to auto-generated files separately from manual
changes. In particular, commit debian/control.in first, and
debian.control afterwards.
Ah! OK
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:06:41AM +0200, Alessio Treglia wrote:
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Please elaborate - in the bug header, not (only) here - on why
forwarding is not needed.
Patch is debian-specific as we don't need to append
/{,usr/{,local/}}l
t; || echo "$$DEB_CFLAGS")
+ifeq (,$(CFLAGS))
+ CFLAGS = -Wall
+endif
If I understand your intention correctly, this is more elegant:
CFLAGS = $(or $(DEB_CFLAGS),-Wall)
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On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 09:23:35PM +, mira-gu...@users.alioth.debian.org
wrote:
+.pc
As similarly mentioned recently for another package, I suggest adding a
leading slash, like this:
/.pc
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+1,8 @@
#!/usr/bin/make -f
+# Set CFLAGS from DEB_CFLAGS if defined, otherwise let xvidcore's build system
+# set CFLAGS to use.
+CFLAGS = $(or $(DEB_CFLAGS),)
+
Simpler:
CFLAGS = $(DEB_CFLAGS)
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peer developers :-)
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More info here: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia
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pping those with CDBS snippets *or* replacing those with short-form
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Please elaborate: FTBFS is bad, but so is a "succesful" build which does
not pass its own tests, no?
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Or expressed differently: Please ensure that the packaging works
reliably not only in an optimized chroot!
Most likely this means explicitly disabling unwanted build routines, in
addition to this leaving out the build-dependency required by it.
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On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 10:36:54AM +0100, Alessio Treglia wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 08:51:11AM +,
ales...@users.alioth.debian.org wrote:
dh-autoreconf is enough
Enough what? Lines consumed in the rules file?!?
Replacing
@@ Architecture: any
Depends: ${shlibs:Depends},
${misc:Depends},
jackd
-Recommends: qjackctl,
- a2jmidid
+Recommends: qjackctl
Please commit independent changes separately!
You apparently mised mention dropping recommendation on a2jmidid.
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4) Auto-update debian/changelog (with "git dch")
5) Manually adjust debian/changelog (e.g. with "dch") to summarize
the user-facing effects of above changes
6) Commit debian/changelog
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g)
pd-plugins-common perhaps?
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them like suggests. This lead to the myth that
recommends should be avoided.
Please aggressively use recommends, for the benfit of unusual uses of
packages.
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it in nice words):
Mention some of the exciting news happening after the freeze: growth of
active members in the team, a bunch of exciting new packages, and
finally deciding to generally use dpkg source format 3.0 (quilt).
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MPlayer version with much more recent FFmpeg. That won't work together.
mplayer package needs tightened dependencies, then.
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tervention. I'd prefer Depends for the above reasons. I
strongly disagree about using Suggests here.
Do that tiny little piece of code pull in other code too?
I proposed to _recommend_, not suggest, which means it is hostile only
to those experts deliberately suppressing recommenda
point.
Maybe so for upstream development, but irrelevant for Debian packaging,
I believe.
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(re) posted which packages need my help. There was a V4L2 kernel module
too, I recall...
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On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 08:12:06AM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote:
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 07:57, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 11:21:54AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 14:00 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Additionally, expr is GPL and arraysize is
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 04:49:19PM +0100, Alessio Treglia wrote:
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Oh, sorry - I somehow got the impression that all pd related packages
was using short-form dh so didn't pay much attention to your earlier
ping.
I don't
(but haven't tested) that the below might be relevant to pass
upstream, as it preserves upstream as default while making it
overridable:
PREFIX ?= /usr/local
archsuffix := $(shell uname -m | sed -e 's/^unknown/$//' -e 's/^i.86/$//' -e
's/^x86_64/$/64/')
k of
silently getting outdated. I If you did not do that already, I
recommend checking out help2man and try use that to (semi-)autogenerate
a manpage based on actual command currently being built.
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On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 09:20:56AM +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
On 2010-11-08 13:04, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
(re) posted which packages need my help. There was a V4L2 kernel
module too, I recall...
ah sorry i forgot about that.
i eventually found an agreement with Nobuhiro Iwamatsu
ly running git-import-orig again, using the tarball actually
released to Debian should do the trick.
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n removing (a.k.a. reverting
the addition of) build log should be stripped.
...IMO. :-)
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-branch = master
+upstream-branch = upstream
pristine-tar = True
+sign-tags = True
I suggest to only include non-default options. I.e. drop debian-branch
and upstream-branch unless using unusual branches.
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