Re: [PEDA] AW: SPICE sim question

Also, in practice you'll be very lucky to find a resistor sold as 5% that is within 1% across temperature etc. - they're the ones that are being sold as 1% parts! Regards, Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Gary Packman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 02 J

[PEDA] autosave during autoroute - can it be done?

I've recently found out the hard way that despite having autosave set to 10min./10 copies (not completely paranoid, honest!) nothing gets saved whilst the autorouter is running... (P99SE/SP6) Is there some trick I've missed, or is it just 'one of those features'? Reg

Re: [PEDA] AW: was Speaking of Protel Bugs. < space and time and ... >

armonise the nominal voltage to 230V, but the tolerances allow the original 220V and 240V voltages to comply. I'm now waiting for the EEC to try and come up with a Europe-wide standard mains plug... Regards, Andy Gulliver

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

UK factories use 415V 50Hz 3-phase power for 'heavy duty' electrical stuff, in addition to 120V/50Hz (power tools, but not everywhere) and 230V/50Hz (everything else). As an extra complication, when I worked on avionic stuff many years ago the lab. also had outlets fo

Re: [PEDA] AW: was Speaking of Protel Bugs. < space and time and ... >

as well as following a few (more) design rules... Regards, Andy Gulliver still grinning and bearing it (just!) > -Original Message- > From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 24 July 2002 15:52 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] AW: wa

Re: [PEDA] OT Metric vs Imperial

miles' he wasn't going that fast - and got let off with a warning! Regards Andy Gulliver **

Re: [PEDA] Matched Lenghth Constraint

27; of tracks and checking with selective DRC. I find this to be quicker and less wasteful of board space. Regards, Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 13 August 2002 23:37 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PED

Re: [PEDA] Gerber and Specctra bugs

The Specctra routing layers issue is covered by KB article 2213 - I found it by accident when searching for tips on Specctra interfacing and printed it for future reference. Regards, Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >

Re: [PEDA] Protel Dimensions

You can get mm by changing to metric, or else there's the option to 'explode dimension to primitives' after which you can edit the text as a string to whatever you like - although that method is a bit messy, and a pain if you then need to change the dimension. Regards,

Re: [PEDA] Protel Dimensions

I've had the demo CD for a while now, but not had the time for a proper evaluation. We are expected to use Cadence for all new designs following a takeover last year, as it is the parent company standard, which means that an upgrade is now extremely unlikely :-( Regards, Andy Gul

Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE

OK, this may be a silly question... but how about using that free copy of Camtastic that came with P99SE to view the Gerbers? The 'auto load' works with just about everything I've thrown at it so far. Regards, Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Terry

Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE

(604) 292-9010 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.norsat.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Andy Gulliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:31 AM > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewin

[PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic

ic measures (e.g. reformat the HDD!)? Regards, Andy Gulliver * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mail

Re: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic

> -Original Message- > From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 21 March 2003 10:50 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic > > > On 08:19 PM 21/03/2003, Andy Gulliver said: > >I'm running P99SE/SP6 o

Re: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 21 March 2003 11:32 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic > > > I recall running into something like this. It's been quite a > while ago so my > memory of it is fuzzy,

Re: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic

> -Original Message- > From: Wojciech Oborski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 21 March 2003 12:08 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic > > > Andy Gulliver wrote: > > > > I've tried an uninstall/reins

Re: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic

ead PCB Designer > Norsat International Inc. > Microwave Products > Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) > Fax (604) 292-9010 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.norsat.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Andy Gulliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic - an update

s procedure was that when I came to re-apply SP6, the installer decided that the valid installation was in the recycle bin (which I hadn't emptied since the removal...)! It was however easily persuaded otherwise and normal operation has been restored.

Re: [PEDA] Why does my scroll mouse not work any more?

All the wheel mouse issues I've seen have been driver related. Have you tried the latest drivers from your mouse manufacturer? The new PC probably has a default set of drivers rather than the latest. Regards, Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Christopher Rhomb

Re: [PEDA] Problems when pouring polygons

est combination. Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Florian Finsterbusch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 September 2001 08:56 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: [PEDA] Problems when pouring polygons > > > Hello everybody, > > we have so

Re: [PEDA] Polygon connections

the connection rule doesn't let the pads connect to the polygon...). Regards (and apologies if appropriate!) Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Richard Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 September 2001 11:00 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: [PEDA]

Re: [PEDA] Altera 144Pin TQFP Landing Pattern

the metric pad positions to the nearest mil, although beware that on really small footprints the pad displacement in converting can be a significant percentage of the pad spacing (although I've yet to see any problems caused by this approach). Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original M

[PEDA] DXF export bug?

ion to the planes on the exported file (pads are exported OK). Can anyone else confirm this behaviour? I'd guess at it being a legacy thing from the days when vias couldn't be connected to internal planes, and the export utility hasn't been upgraded to allow for them to be connected

Re: [PEDA] DXF export bug?

Thanks Mike, It turns out that the people I've been sending DXFs to have a Gerber viewer... As you say, it's always more accurate to use the Gerbers, especially since the 'print final' option was removed :-( Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- >

Re: [PEDA] Let Me Out Of Here!!!!

I had a similar problem following a recent change of company email addresses - there's a note on the website on how to unsubscribe by email, which works OK at http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/joinforum.html Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: John Sc

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

- Schematic - PCB - Powerprint - CAM Manager - Autorouter - CamTastic (if it counts as part of Protel...) Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Edi Im Hof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 16 November 2001 18:17 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: [PED

Re: [PEDA] Seeking Popular or Standard Footprint for Surface Mount LEDs

My anti-Murphy tactic is to use SOT-23 LEDs. They may not be a small or cheap as rectangular footprint parts, but they're a lot harder to fit wrongly! Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 30 Novem

Re: [PEDA] License number not accepted

No luck here either :-( I've tried using the new company name (notified to Premier a couple of months ago, I think), the old name and my name as company contact - none worked. Time to call Premier I guess... Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Stephen Ca

Re: [PEDA] License number not accepted

. If you do not wish to receive further e-mails on this or similar subjects from Premier, please reply to this e-mail, typing the text "Un-Subscribe" in the subject box of your reply e-mail." Worth a try? Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] License number not accepted

oops... my mistake - the reference to 'PEDA' followed a series of messages about Premier EDA, and I'd just got a mailshot from them so I assumed that it was their list we wanted to get off... Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Abd ul-Rahman

Re: [PEDA] 1206 4xresistor network footprint in downloaded libraries. Where?

footprints in data sheets (I think Philips/BC have one for the SMT resistor networks - which one are you using? I may have done a footprint for it already), although these often get modified based on feedback from our assembly people. Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- >

Re: [PEDA] Client99se schematics to EDIF 2.0

In the options for netlist creation (Design|Create Netlist), there are two variants of Edif 2.0 on the drop-down for Output Format on the Preferences tab. Have you tried these? Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >

Re: [PEDA] Illegal Operation crash

I usually find that if Protel has got into this sort of routine, then it's time to re-boot the PC (often needing power-cycling, just to make sure). The same applies with Windows 2000, although it's not needed nearly as often as with 95! Regards Andy Gulliver > -Ori

Re: [PEDA] Is this normal???

Don't get me started on Xilinx software, just don't! It even makes Micro$oft look good... been using Xilinx for 8+ years... it wasn't my idea, honest! been using Protel for around 7 years... now that *was* my idea - well, after Cadstar anything's better ;-) Re

Re: [PEDA] Schematics no longer recognized.

characters - does Windows now support this? Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Don Ingram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 28 January 2002 20:47 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Schematics no longer recognized. > > > As an aside... &g

Re: [PEDA] Warning: Unconnected net label

Then it'll be the brackets it doesn't like. AD0 thru AD15 should work fine. Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Tim Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 30 January 2002 16:22 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Warning: Unconnec

Re: [PEDA] Warning: Unconnected net label

Seconded! (especially the control bus). Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 31 January 2002 16:45 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Warning: Unconnected net label > [cut] > Bus/Port/S

Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track

Same here - it's amazing how much router fallout the Mk.1 eyeball can find :-) Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Ircha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 01 February 2002 16:28 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track >

Re: [PEDA] Weird behaviour

hut down the PC within a certain time of closing Protel? Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Sean James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 06 March 2002 11:57 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: [PEDA] Weird behaviour > > > Has anybody had this happen t

Re: [PEDA] Schematic standards

ngs). > and (3) after the hard copy in the documentation becomes a nth-generation photocopy you can be sure that the blob at the crossover *isn't* meant to be a connection! (We were taught this rule a few years back in the days of dyeline prints from 'pencil on drafting film' s

Re: [PEDA] BMP2PCB Question (slightly off topic)

ced a printable result without too much distortion of the original logo. Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Abd ulRahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 12 April 2002 22:28 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] BMP2PCB Question (slightly off topic)

Re: [PEDA] Barred (active low) text

-windows CadStar (and may still exist - I haven't used it for years) where a single quote toggled the bar on/off such that 'CS and 'CS' displayed the same. Play safe, avoid the bar! Regards, Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Steve Wiseman [mailto:[EMA

Re: [PEDA] genius netscroll mouse

There was a known issue a while back with the Microsoft Intellimouse causing keyboard shortcuts to stop working, which was fixed by using the Logitech drivers. The latest Microsoft drivers work fine. If this is a related problem then maybe a driver update will help your problem? Regards, Andy

[PEDA] Autorouter just stops...

P99SE/SP6 and the PC is an 800-and-something MHz P3 with 512M SDRAM running Windows 2000 Professional) Regards, Andy Gulliver * Tracking #: 0D6407

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Reinitiering

Ah, if only! Why did they ever do away with the batch router? Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: TSListServer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Tommy Ekesson > Sent: 06 February 2001 14:49 > To: Multiple recipients of list proteledausers > Su

Re: [PEDA] AW: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Queens English

could this be the origin of that other engineering term for a small distance : "nine tenths of a gnat's boll*ck" ? :-) Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: TSListServer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent:

Re: [PEDA] Strange SP6 library file dates

I've not seen this as such, but feel it might be related to a phenomenon I've seen since at least P98 where I'll get prompted on exit to save changes to a file (often a .lib file) even though I've only opened it to e.g. check pad dimensions on a symbol. Regards Andy Gulliver

Re: [PEDA] Info about PCI specs

was found to be non-compliant but had worked OK with a lower spec. processor board - they'd designed circuitry that didn't meet the spec but worked when originally tested. Looks like it's the same with PCI - shortcuts can work fine in some systems but not the higher speed ones. Re

Re: [PEDA] OT: Unused CMOS inputs (was: Reference)

TTL!) and I still prefer it to a direct tie, although mainly to facilitate circuit changes. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Abdulrahman Lomax > P.O. Box 690 > El Verano, CA 95433 Regards Andy Gulliver * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMA

Re: [PEDA] Possible Protel & Win2K conflict.

I can open the management window, and browse OK on my P99SE/Win2k system - is there any specific action that causes the problem? Is it with or without P99SE actually running? Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Ken Henrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent:

Re: [PEDA] Reference

voltage than inputs - the resistor limits input current in such cases. Hope this helps. Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Nicholas Cobb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 28 March 2001 15:15 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PEDA] Reference > > >

Re: [PEDA] Microstrip Corners (or "optimal" miters)

One caveat on the use of curved corners:- they're placed as arcs rather than curved tracks, so if you use the autorouter it will ignore their locked attribute (if set) and mess up your careful hand routing! (BTDT...) Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Tho

Re: [PEDA] Different sized ground traces

Assuming you're using 99SE, then you can set up a net class for each group of nets with a particular width requirement and specify a width rule based on net class for each class. This is one rule the autorouter actually follows! Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- >

Re: [PEDA] Different sized ground traces

After re-reading your original email, I might have missed the point - if you want different widths on different parts of the same net then you'll have to route those segments manually as the autorouter ignores rules set by from-to, as mentioned in an earlier reply. Regards Andy Gul

Re: [PEDA] Changes to the Protel company name

...like most of the UK :-( and where it's available they charge 150ukp installation plus 25ukp a month for 512kbit ADSL. Fortunately at the office we've got 256kbit, but there are still too many frames, flash intros and other web frills out there. Regards Andy Gulliver >

[PEDA] Router crashes (P99SE/SP6)

router doesn't need the libraries to be accessible, but the Sophos update could be significant. Can anyone shed any light on the cause (and hopefully fix for) this crash? Regards Andy Gulliver No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message. However, a large number o

Re: [PEDA] Router crashes (P99SE/SP6)

Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 08 August 2001 19:04 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Router crashes (P99SE/SP6) > > > > > Have you tried moving the files to the local drive, d

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

[FX: brain going 'pop']) FYI, there's a new EMC directive being worked on (EMCD:2000), currently scheduled to come into force Q4/2005. Regards Andy Gulliver - in the UK and still (relatively) sane after 8 years of EMC =:~} > -Original Message- > From: Dennis Sapu

Re: [PEDA] CE marking (was Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?)

compliance with. There is much confusion generated from the assumption that CE marking is just about EMC, whereas the EMC directive is just one that a piece of electronics needs to comply with. Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [PEDA] Naughty bits (from Benny Hill)

Perhaps it'd be safer to be able to select track segments under a specified length rather than have them all automatically removed. This would also help identify dodgy pad entries left by the router. Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Richard Thompson [ma

Re: [PEDA] Plane vs. Split Plane

, and have them in different colours, whilst placing the boundary tracks. Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 15 August 2001 11:51 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: [PEDA] Plane vs. Split Plane > >

Re: [PEDA] Antwort: tenting vias;what Intel says

via-to-(pad or via) clearance rule at double the basic board spacing and this stopped the problems - at the expense of routability. Under BGAs, I'd always tent vias as any risk of shorts is too great a risk given the cost/difficulty of inspection and rework. Regards Andy Gulliver >

Re: [PEDA] Eagle to Protel PCB conversion

Depending on the board size, you may be able to edit it with the free version. If not then you will be able to at least view it which is useful to check that the Gerber import has worked as intended! Regards, Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Terry Creer [mailto:

Re: [PEDA] Blind vias in P99 / Specctra

Not sure about the layer set, although I think Specctra uses the layers turned on and enabled for routing rather than all in the layer stack - so you need to turn them all on and set a routing direction for each. Regards, Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Steve Wisema

Re: [PEDA] Blind vias in P99 / Specctra

ng blind/buried vias on that project). Regards, Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Emanuel Zimmermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 01 October 2003 07:43 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Blind vias in P99 / Specctra > > > Well, this is

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter questions:

at if you've got any SMT and you're wanting some signals to keep off the outer layers then you'll have to either fanout manually or change the rule for a fanout pass and reset it for the main routing. Regards, Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: Gary [mailto:[EMA

Re: [PEDA] How to highlight the Net in different colors in 99SE

Net Properties dialog where you can set the net colour. Once this is done, select both nets and the tracks will be highlighted in their own colours. Note that the highlight colour is the same for all layers, so not every 'near miss' will be genuine but it does help track them down. Reg