Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging 48V Battery with One Module

2021-04-12 Thread Kent Osterberg
, certainly beyond its specs. Most "dumb" voltage converters operate around 85% efficiency. If taking that much loss, it would be better to use a lower power, higher voltage PV module with a common MPPT controller. That is one less part to fail too. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging 48V Battery with One Module

2021-04-12 Thread Kent Osterberg
Jason, Would a 96 cell Panasonic module fit in the space you have available? It would give you sufficient voltage to charge this battery. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 4/12/2021 10:40 AM, Jason Szumlanski wrote: I want to charge a 51.2V LiPO battery with a single 420W 72-cell module

[RE-wrenches] PVZH202

2021-03-28 Thread Kent Osterberg
Wrenches, Does anyone have a supply of Zhonghuan PVZH202 connectors? These are being used on the Mission Solar MSE60A310 modules. I can't find any except in multiples of 1000 from Zhonghuan. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar ___ List sponsored

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback settings adjustment so batteries consume less of PV output

2021-03-21 Thread Kent Osterberg
but that is only possible when the battery doesn't go through a full discharge cycle. There are many sources on the internet that say 98 or 99%, but that is wrong, among us let's get it right. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 3/20/2021 7:01 PM, Jerry Shafer wrote: Wrenches So what l got from

Re: [RE-wrenches] GVFX3524 fan replacement

2021-02-15 Thread Kent Osterberg
are partially tightened, the paper is removed. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 2/14/2021 8:08 PM, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote: has anyone successfully done this without removing the inverter from the wall? todd On Sunday, February 14, 2021 6:26pm, "Foxfire Energy" s

[RE-wrenches] XW Pro multi-inverter

2021-02-10 Thread Kent Osterberg
327=6024628387f561612997251>? I've got one installed per the manual and am having a devil of a time getting it to stay latched onto the generator with the external contactor. Can't even get it to stay latched on with no load. All advise on getting this to work is appreciated. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Specific Gravity versus Electrolyte Level

2021-02-10 Thread Kent Osterberg
I have also found that the Plews battery filler works well for most L16 batteries. One does need to be careful in recommending it because there are some batteries that it fills higher than the recommended amount. Also, be aware that this type of filler will continue to fill a bit after the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Schneider Electric XW Pro

2021-01-06 Thread Kent Osterberg
Not for 120/240 split phase. Kent On 1/6/2021 11:11 AM, Maverick Brown wrote: Whaaat? Can’t you use Multi Unit Config using the SCP Advanced menu to set additional inverters as Slave? Thank you, Maverick On Jan 6, 2021, at 1:00 PM, Kent Osterberg wrote: I just finished a call

[RE-wrenches] Schneider Electric XW Pro

2021-01-06 Thread Kent Osterberg
to be to reset a slave unit with the SCP and then reprogram it. No longer as enthusiastic about using Schneider for off grid power. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Growatt 5k inverter w/ transformer, more China junk?

2021-01-04 Thread Kent Osterberg
The "Contact Us" page on their website gives a contact number in China. And none of the documentation shows a UL listing. I would tell the customer that I can't install it - too risky. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 1/4/2021 3:33 PM, Chris Schaefer wrote: G'Day and Happy

Re: [RE-wrenches] generator tripping GFCI

2020-12-19 Thread Kent Osterberg
output wave forms on most generators, and when only one inverter is charging, the harmonics will show up on the neutral. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 12/19/2020 2:33 PM, jay wrote: HI All, I have a client with a older Kohler 8-10kw generator, VFX 3648 stacked inverters, newer rolls

Re: [RE-wrenches] FMC in battery rooms

2020-10-22 Thread Kent Osterberg
Mark, That's to be avoided if possible. You wouldn't be allowed to put batteries in a battery room. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 10/22/2020 10:36 AM, Mark Frye wrote: Perhaps we should be applying Article 500 to the installation of batteries as well. On 10/22/2020 10:02 AM, Kent

Re: [RE-wrenches] FMC in battery rooms

2020-10-22 Thread Kent Osterberg
Jay, I suspect it is because FMC is not vapor tight and could be an unintentional path for hydrogen gas, or could allow acid vapors to condense on the enclosed wiring. LFMC (aka liquid tight) is allowed in battery rooms. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 10/22/2020 9:07 AM, jay wrote

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC for Batteries < 60v ??

2020-10-20 Thread Kent Osterberg
the cabin in the woods flies under the radar rather than attempting to comply with the excess of regulations that get heaped on a small power system? Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 10/20/2020 8:50 AM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar wrote: Thanks Kent, A question, most of the Sierra AHJ's

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC for Batteries < 60v ??

2020-10-20 Thread Kent Osterberg
. Its not just renewable energy systems in that situation. All new utility services have the same requirement. Anyone having a beef with their neighbor can shut off their power. Best if you wait until they are on vacation... Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 10/20/2020 11:24 AM, Ray wrote

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC for Batteries < 60v ??

2020-10-19 Thread Kent Osterberg
think about using a power shed. The power shed is not a dwelling so 2020 NEC 480.7(B) doesn't apply. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 10/19/2020 8:34 PM, Ray wrote: I've used Blue Planet, so I guess I have used an actual UL listed ESS, even though they don't include the charge

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metal roof

2020-10-19 Thread Kent Osterberg
attached to decking or to purlins has made this topic a bit difficult to follow. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 10/19/2020 7:15 AM, William Miller wrote: Friends: I have figured that the best way to improve a standing seam installation is to add more S5 clips. Each seam has a finite

Re: [RE-wrenches] Pump power

2020-09-22 Thread Kent Osterberg
. Without a soft start you aren't going to reliably start the 2HP pump while running other loads. Even the 1.5 HP is problematic. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 9/22/2020 12:13 PM, Jerry Shafer wrote: Go look at grudfus SQFlex they can go pv direct or AC in Jerry On Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 12:10

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback NEC 2020 Compliance?

2020-09-13 Thread Kent Osterberg
Don't just nag on Outback. It's the same issue with the Schneider Electric XW distribution panel and with the Midnite E-panels. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 9/13/2020 1:10 PM, Ray wrote: I'm taking a Mike Holt course on NEC 2020 changes for my license renewal, and I just came across

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire clips for Sunmodo rail

2020-09-07 Thread Kent Osterberg
to these vinyl cushioned cable clamps <https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/0762883> that could be held with 3/4" tee bolts. I believe that the tee bolts are Sunmodo part B20015-004, it's not a catalog item but you can order them. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar www.bluemounta

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire clips for Sunmodo rail

2020-09-07 Thread Kent Osterberg
on the ground mount, there is a cable clip designed to attach to the 3/8" bolt slot, part A20162-001, unfortunately it was sized for the older Enphase cable and isn't much use for anything else. Stainless cable ties ... Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar 70177 Ponderosa Ln. Cove, OR

Re: [RE-wrenches] Modifying a plumbing vent

2020-08-31 Thread Kent Osterberg
el. Pretty sure vent pipes under the array are not a good idea for many of us. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar 70177 Ponderosa Ln. Cove, OR 97824 www.bluemountainsolar.com On 8/31/2020 6:40 AM, Matt Partymiller wrote: Scot, What do you interpret the last part of that secti

Re: [RE-wrenches] Puzzle: Dryer does not work during FXR battery charging

2020-08-15 Thread Kent Osterberg
. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 8/15/2020 8:06 AM, Matt Sherald wrote: Hello All, My curiosity was piqued by a recent customer complaint. I'm hoping someone has bumped up against this issue before. The customer has a OB FXR2812 and a 3,000W Honda gen. Her gas clothes dryer runs just

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ampacity Ratings for Different Conductors

2020-08-11 Thread Kent Osterberg
temperature, maybe around -10%, should be included too. It looks like Cotek recommends a minimum cable size of 1/0, so out of fear of starving the inverter of enough voltage, I wouldn't use any smaller. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 8/11/2020 3:18 PM, peter...@pobox.com wrote: I have been

Re: [RE-wrenches] Replacing AC relay in FX inverter

2020-07-06 Thread Kent Osterberg
The sketch on the datasheet shows that the TM version doesn't have the solder tab on the connector. So, no not interchangeable. On 7/6/2020 7:02 PM, William Miller wrote: Friends: I have several FX inverters with smoked AC relays.  The relay is a Deltrol 375P.  The P stands for PC mount. 

Re: [RE-wrenches] White wire for DC- after ground fault breaker

2020-06-15 Thread Kent Osterberg
would be redundant. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 6/15/2020 12:24 PM, William Miller wrote: Wrenches: Well now that the NFPA has acknowledged that GFDI protected circuits do not solidly ground the “grounded“ conductor, and we know they can’t be white in color, it begs the next question

Re: [RE-wrenches] White wire for DC- after ground fault breaker

2020-06-13 Thread Kent Osterberg
James, Here's the code reference: 2017 690.31(B)(1). Only solidly grounded PV system conductors shall be marked in accordance with 200.6 (white or gray). Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 6/13/2020 5:56 PM, James Jarvis wrote: Brian, thank you very much. With your hint of "funct

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium Ion Batteries

2020-03-23 Thread Kent Osterberg
Remote Solar 303 505-8760 On 3/23/20 10:30 AM, Kent Osterberg wrote: I like that approach, Jay. Great idea. It gets the job done and is self contained - using only the features of the inverter. The remote power off could still be used with another remote switch. If there aren't enough aux output

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium Ion Batteries

2020-03-23 Thread Kent Osterberg
. None-the-less, considering that Scneider Electric has made a lot of firmware changes to make the inverter compatible with lithium batteries, it is baffling that the low battery cutout hasn't been addressed. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 3/22/2020 6:18 PM, Jay wrote: Hi Kent, Yes

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium Ion Batteries

2020-03-22 Thread Kent Osterberg
Jay, Do you mean: use the Aux relay to activate the Remote Power Off? What is the low battery setting range for the Aux relay? I don't see it in the manual. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 3/22/2020 4:04 PM, Jay wrote: Ray, Have you heard bought about using the Aux relay to control

Re: [RE-wrenches] VFX produces no output with no error

2020-03-09 Thread Kent Osterberg
Hugh, I've seen these symptoms before. The problem was a failed output relay on the ac board. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 3/9/2020 9:25 AM, Hugh Piggott wrote: Hi Wrenches, I wonder if anyone can tell me what is happening here? I have an Outback VFX that I used for my own home

Re: [RE-wrenches] OK, so what would happen if I do this...

2020-03-04 Thread Kent Osterberg
Jay, My point is that even if the diversion load can handle all of the watts and the PLC is fast enough to react to changes in the ac voltage, the system will probably still be unstable because the battery charger is in the control loop. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 3/4/2020 9

Re: [RE-wrenches] OK, so what would happen if I do this...

2020-03-04 Thread Kent Osterberg
amps. That alone seems risky with a 100Ah battery. To add to the difficulty of this approach the battery charger would add a delay time in the control loop that would almost certainly result in an unstable system. Kent Osterberg On 3/3/2020 7:53 PM, Jay wrote: Or a charger such as Iota

Re: [RE-wrenches] OK, so what iwould happen if I do this...

2020-03-01 Thread Kent Osterberg
the XP inverter. It would work if you had a inverter with a bidirectional architecture like a Magnum, Outback, or Schneider inverter. But even then you'd have a hazardous situation because the cooling water is going to evaporate. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 2/29/2020 3:27 PM, Mark

[RE-wrenches] AIMS inverter

2020-02-25 Thread Kent Osterberg
these inverters up in battery priority mode; it'll do nothing except ruin batteries. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings:

Re: [RE-wrenches] High Power Split phase inverter/chargers

2020-02-21 Thread Kent Osterberg
Need to edit this post: The micro inverters are UL listed for grid connected operation. What I've noticed is that most of the AIMS inverters are not UL, ETL, or otherwise third-party tested. And none seam to be designed for utility interactive operation. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar

Re: [RE-wrenches] High Power Split phase inverter/chargers

2020-02-21 Thread Kent Osterberg
What I've noticed is that most of the AIMS inverters are not UL, ETL, or otherwise third-party tested. And none seam to be designed for utility interactive operation. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 2/21/2020 1:37 PM, wes kennedy wrote: Hi Jeff, I think the biggest split phase sunny

[RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark audible noise

2020-02-20 Thread Kent Osterberg
Would any of you that have installed the Sol-Ark inverters care to compare the audible noise level to other inverters such as the XW+ or the Radian? Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches

Re: [RE-wrenches] Old Outback Mate question

2019-09-06 Thread Kent Osterberg
Allan, I believe the original Mate is still available. At least my distributor still has them in stock. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 9/5/2019 8:01 PM, Sindelar Solar wrote: Wrenches, I have a customer with a 2005-era Outback VFX3648-based off grid residential system. Her

[RE-wrenches] connector mismatch

2019-09-04 Thread Kent Osterberg
connector is the actual cause of the problem. Anyone else ever notice find PV modules with mixed MC4 and H4 connectors? Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change

Re: [RE-wrenches] FM80

2013-05-28 Thread Kent Osterberg
Jesse, The controller is supposed to limit the output current to 80 amps. But the 80-amp GFDI breakers will trip anyway. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 5/28/2013 9:01 PM, Jesse Dahl wrote: When I was looking at the Outback Flexone setup today during

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase M190 failures

2013-05-20 Thread Kent Osterberg
Thanks for your input, Carl. That data looks pretty grim. This is a serious black eye for our industry. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 5/20/2013 12:36 PM, Carl Adams wrote: Ken, We installed our first Enphase units in Dec 2009, and our *last* Enphase

Re: [RE-wrenches] Combining Enphase M190 and M215 on same circuit

2013-05-19 Thread Kent Osterberg
. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 5/18/2013 3:26 PM, Jason Szumlanski wrote: Is there any reason I can't do this? I have an existing string of 3 M190's and want to add 7 M215's. I plan to tie into the same j-box, which has #10 going to a fusible disconnect

[RE-wrenches] Enphase M190 failures

2013-05-17 Thread Kent Osterberg
the site met Enphase's criteria for replacement? I'd like to get an idea of how long I'll be in this mess. -- Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re

Re: [RE-wrenches] SE or SW

2013-05-15 Thread Kent Osterberg
production with the 135° azimuth, the optimum tilt angle is about 60° and that gives 12% more energy in December than the 35° tilt would (without considering how much better the steep tilt does at shedding snow). The SE roof with the steeper pitch is certainly the better choice. Kent Osterberg

[RE-wrenches] AC coupled ProSine

2013-05-13 Thread Kent Osterberg
Has any put together an ac-coupled system using the Xantrex ProSine inverter? I've got a customer that wants to try this and I don't even know if it is possible to do with the ProSine. I'd rather not be the first to give it a try. -- Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc

Re: [RE-wrenches] TR Inverter Problems

2013-04-30 Thread Kent Osterberg
, I was asked to participate in a survey regarding Xantrex products and service. My responses must have got someone's attention because I got a follow-up call about the survey. There never has been a follow-up to correct this customer's problem inverter. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc

Re: [RE-wrenches] Modules approved for horizontal mounting

2013-04-20 Thread Kent Osterberg
The problem they'll have with a completely flat module is that rain won't wash the dust off. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 4/20/2013 10:09 PM, Benn Kilburn - DayStar Renewable Energy wrote: Carl, I realized mis-read/answered your question. I was having

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase AC Frequency Out Of Range

2013-04-15 Thread Kent Osterberg
Dave, The problem occurs when the kWh meter sends data. I would expect any neighbors' meters on the same transformer to cause trouble. And probably neighbors that are not on the same transformer too. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 4/15

Re: [RE-wrenches] Relay for excess PV/ AC coupling

2013-03-06 Thread Kent Osterberg
supply would operate it. About $150 at Mouser.com http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=G9EB You shouldn't have to switch at 600 volts. It should work just as well to short the lowest voltage pair of modules. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Relay for excess PV/ AC coupling

2013-03-06 Thread Kent Osterberg
power supply would operate it. About $150 at Mouser.com http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=G9EB You shouldn't have to switch at 600 volts. It should work just as well to short the lowest voltage pair of modules. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Relay for excess PV/ AC coupling

2013-03-06 Thread Kent Osterberg
How about this unit from Tyco that is rated 100 amps at 900 volts: http://www.te.com/catalog/pn/en/9-1618389-8?RQPN=LEV100A5ANG and only $110 at Mouser http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity/LEV100A5ANG/?qs=%2fha2pyFadug1f8yBSHppXCbQVN7JiNYp4qGSI0ewLzHnRcQBcz6gcA%3d%3d. Kent

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread Kent Osterberg
batteries in renewable energy systems. Considering the market for these, the normal unit is probably set up to provide a float charge voltage. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 3/5/2013 7:17 AM, jay peltz wrote: HI All, I know many of you like

Re: [RE-wrenches] Accessibility of Equipment on Roof was Are PV Systems Mechanical Equipment?

2013-02-08 Thread Kent Osterberg
on the roof should be permitted. There should also be an accessible disconnect elsewhere (at the panel feeding the combiner for instance.) That (may) makes the breakers in the ac combiner supplementary and thus they wouldn't have to be accessible. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc

Re: [RE-wrenches] Alarm start stop alarm

2013-02-08 Thread Kent Osterberg
I've got a customer that has outside lights that are only on when the generator runs. Also has a siren/strobe light alarm that comes on when the batteries are below the 2-minute threshold for the generator start. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase AC Frequency out of Range

2013-02-07 Thread Kent Osterberg
before the zero crossing. Supposedly, they increase the firing angle to get a stronger signal from sites that are hard to reach. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 2/7/2013 2:13 PM, Nick Soleil wrote: Hi

Re: [RE-wrenches] power monitor hardware

2013-01-16 Thread Kent Osterberg
433 MHz radio instead of power line carrier. Noisy inverters don't seem to bother it. Efergy meters are ETL listed, and are considerably cheaper than TED. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 1/16/2013 2:07 PM, Kirk Herander wrote: Hello

Re: [RE-wrenches] Point of Connection 705.12D2 Exception

2012-12-30 Thread Kent Osterberg
If you are using the 2011 NEC, 705.12(D)(2) has an exception to the 120% rule for inverters with energy storage to allow for operation of loads. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 12/30/2012 4:27 PM, Jeremy Rodriguez- All Solar Inc. wrote

Re: [RE-wrenches] off-grid permitting problem

2012-12-12 Thread Kent Osterberg
to provide 63 amps continuously. Most 200-amp service panels don't really have 200 amps available except for short durations. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 12/12/2012 4:43 AM, Jason Szumlanski wrote: See 690.10, 690.1, and 690.3. *Jason

Re: [RE-wrenches] Best practices for conduit penetration on roof

2012-11-25 Thread Kent Osterberg
My understanding has been that the Soladeck has only been listed for DC wiring. Perhaps they have a manufacturer rep on RE-wrenches that can clarify. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 11/25/2012 6:20 AM, Dave Palumbo wrote: Rich, We have been using

Re: [RE-wrenches] EMT in attic

2012-11-08 Thread Kent Osterberg
Article 100 has a definition for service. It doesn't seem like a PV system or a battery based inverter for off-grid fit the definition. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 11/8/2012 8:22 PM, Nick Vida wrote: Hi Wrenches, Thanks for you comments. Fun

Re: [RE-wrenches] EMT in attic

2012-11-03 Thread Kent Osterberg
There is no need for an exception. Even in the 2008 NEC, 690.31(E) is clearly about the dc wiring. The proposed informational note adds nothing except to explain that ac isn't dc. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 11/3/2012 11:09 AM, Dan Fink wrote

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase and Romex

2012-11-01 Thread Kent Osterberg
to accept this practice. You might need a j-box in the attic to change wire type to NMC cable or THWN wire. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 11/1/2012 5:07 AM, Chris Mason wrote: I remember from a project we were doing that required Romex that it is listed

[RE-wrenches] 3R box on the roof with snow?

2012-11-01 Thread Kent Osterberg
-types.pdf http://www.nema.org/Products/Documents/nema-enclosure-types.pdf From NEMA's definitions there is little difference between a type 4 box and 3R box. But the seal on a type 4 box prevents the entry of blowing snow while a 3R box doesn't. -- Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc

[RE-wrenches] AstroPower 120

2012-10-31 Thread Kent Osterberg
Does anyone happen to have one or two AstroPower AP1206 120-watt modules that they can part with? If you do, please contact me off list. Thanks. -- Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power

Re: [RE-wrenches] center fed main panel and 120% rule

2012-10-15 Thread Kent Osterberg
the SQ D QO or HOM 6-12L100 or 8-16L100 panels that can be fed with main lugs that are on opposite ends (left for L1 and right for L2)? Seems like you shouldn't apply the 120% rule to these either. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 10/15/2012 9:32 AM, August

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fronius State 104

2012-10-09 Thread Kent Osterberg
with the time sync signal, I'd guess that the installation must be close to the substation where the signal originates. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 10/9/2012 9:20 AM, Jeff Wongstrom wrote: Kent, I just talked with Mike in the meter department

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fronius State 104

2012-10-08 Thread Kent Osterberg
. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 10/8/2012 9:34 AM, Jeff Wongstrom wrote: Hello wrenches, We have a Fronius IG3000 that chronically and frequently cycles into and out of a state 104(grid frequency

Re: [RE-wrenches] Disconnect BOTH positive and negative conductors from array?!?

2012-09-14 Thread Kent Osterberg
See 690.13. There must be a means to disconnect all conductors of a PV system. If it is a normally grounded array you are not allowed to put a switch in the grounded conductor, except for circumstances added in the 2011 code. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain

Re: [RE-wrenches] Disconnect BOTH positive and negative conductors from array?!?

2012-09-14 Thread Kent Osterberg
ray, which will probably become more common as equipment is designed to operate that way, both conductors are supposed to be switched in the disconnect. In that case there shouldn't be any white wire going to the PV array. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain

Re: [RE-wrenches] Extensive Lightning Damage to Modules

2012-09-07 Thread Kent Osterberg
loop. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 9/7/2012 7:40 AM, Jeff Irish wrote: A customer of ours has recently suffered lightning damage to 31 out of 160 top of pole mounted modules. This is the first time in 10 years that I've seen modules

Re: [RE-wrenches] Extensive Lightning Damage to Modules

2012-09-07 Thread Kent Osterberg
induced voltages. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 9/7/2012 11:14 AM, Jeff Irish wrote: Kent, Surge protection is at the inverters, 200 feet away, on both the AC and DC sides. Nothing at the array; never thought we'd need

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback with grid charging

2012-08-24 Thread Kent Osterberg
meter can be used to record net energy - behave like most disk-type meters; ignore energy in one direction - behave like a detented meter; or record both incoming energy and outgoing energy separately - a two register meter. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback with grid charging

2012-08-24 Thread Kent Osterberg
Jesse, Sometimes the best thing you can do for a customer is document, in writing, what's wrong. And walk away if they aren't willing to fix it. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 8/24/2012 6:36 PM, Jesse Dahl wrote: Im with you on the wisdom

[RE-wrenches] Mitsubishi MF170 needed

2012-07-14 Thread Kent Osterberg
Fellow wrenches, If anyone happens to have a Mitsubishi MF170 that is available, please contact me off list. I need one to add to a customer's small system. -- Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882

Re: [RE-wrenches] Smart grid grid-connected compatibility

2012-07-09 Thread Kent Osterberg
, for about 8 or 10 seconds, while data are sent. I managed to capture the event with a scope and the waveform distortion is probably well less than 2% and much less than the distortion inverters are to allowed cause. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568

[RE-wrenches] Smart grid grid-connected compatibility

2012-07-08 Thread Kent Osterberg
. Until Enphase comes up with a fix, I won't install any more Enphase inverters. -- Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re

[RE-wrenches] Smart grid grid-connected compatibility

2012-07-05 Thread Kent Osterberg
for various technologies. -- Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re

Re: [RE-wrenches] combiners and the 120% rule

2012-07-01 Thread Kent Osterberg
with micro-inverters. A few small loads on this panel just lowers the current on the bus bars. The risk that the 120% rule is supposed to address is the possibility of overloading the bus bars. In the case of the ac combiner that could happen if someone were to add some very large loads to it. Kent

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Energy Remote Control

2012-06-28 Thread Kent Osterberg
remote is connected). So, if the default settings aren't adequate, your customer's will need a remote. They need it to equalize the batteries anyway. And since every battery system should have a battery monitor, there may as well be a remote for the purpose of using the Magnum BMK. Kent Osterberg

Re: [RE-wrenches] Corrective EQ question

2012-06-01 Thread Kent Osterberg
of the plates. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 6/1/2012 1:28 PM, Allan Sindelar wrote: Wrenches, A long-time off grid client has a 48V Outback VFX system, with 1,680 watts of PV and two strings (16 batteries total) of Deka L16s, installed last October

Re: [RE-wrenches] Finding ground faults

2012-05-23 Thread Kent Osterberg
Steve, It would be appropriate for the GFDI to have 80-amp rated contacts that do not have an over-current trip mechanism. IMHO, the fact that they can trip on over-current and unnecessarily interrupt the dc system bond is a serious design flaw. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV into a resistor: please advise

2012-05-19 Thread Kent Osterberg
is designed to boost the current when the voltage (and resistance) are less than optimum, so I think it would improve the power transfer. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 5/19/2012 12:35 PM, Mick Abraham wrote: Hi, Wrenchies~ Kindly educate me regarding PV

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery changing on SW inverter

2012-05-15 Thread Kent Osterberg
that are not appropriate. Keep a copy of how you left the the system programmed in case there are ever any questions or need to reprogram it again later. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 5/15/2012 1:44 PM, Glenn Burt wrote: Hello wrenches, I am quoting a job to do

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV direct pump under 30V and conduit in building

2012-05-03 Thread Kent Osterberg
there are local codes specifying otherwise, MC cable should be allowed. Even that is overkill for a small 12-volt module. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 5/3/2012 9:34 AM, Jason Szumlanski wrote: I'd like some help with code references for an inspector

Re: [RE-wrenches] Any experience with off-grid oxygen concentrators?

2012-04-21 Thread Kent Osterberg
I've got off-grid customers where both the husband and wife use oxygen at night. Because of energy supply limitations they use a liquid O2 system. But that may not be practical for a weekend use cabin. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 4/21/2012 12:12 PM

Re: [RE-wrenches] GFP and multiple charge controllers

2012-04-18 Thread Kent Osterberg
controller output anyway. Midnite's instructions show the GFP on the charge controller input, but their 80-amp GFP is a single. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com http://www.bluemountainsolar.com On 4/17/2012 11:08 AM, Nathan Stumpff wrote: Wrenches, In a job

Re: [RE-wrenches] GFP and multiple charge controllers

2012-04-18 Thread Kent Osterberg
: the GFP simply needs to open both PV+ and PV-. The manufacturers need to step up and correct this. The NEC needs to be changed to require it. This won't reduce the risks at the PV array, but it is certainly worth it to design components that don't but homeowners at unnecessary risk. Kent Osterberg

Re: [RE-wrenches] GFP and multiple charge controllers

2012-04-18 Thread Kent Osterberg
of 110.3(B). I find the present situation very disturbing. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 4/18/2012 8:28 PM, Philip wrote: Hi Kent, I wanted to add a little more re positive grounding. OutBack's communication structure, like many other

Re: [RE-wrenches] GFP and multiple charge controllers

2012-04-17 Thread Kent Osterberg
output anyway. Midnite's instructions show the GFP on the charge controller input, but their 80-amp GFP is a single. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 4/17/2012 11:08 AM, Nathan Stumpff wrote: Wrenches, In a job coming up I have a customer with an existing

Re: [RE-wrenches] Array spacing for optimum performance

2012-04-16 Thread Kent Osterberg
the latitude. This solution produces much less energy the maximum possible. And, of course, ignoring the value of the land or roof space isn't practical either. Ultimately, you have to look at what limits apply to the problem and work from there. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread Kent Osterberg
It is interesting that when you download the manual for the Sunforce 400, you get a 2002 vintage SWWP Air-X manual. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 4/3/2012 5:24 PM, Dan Fink wrote: Esteemed Wrenches; I've been watching this thread closely, and I'm

[RE-wrenches] unusual module

2012-03-24 Thread Kent Osterberg
with a low-voltage high-current Solarex module. -- Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] unusual module

2012-03-24 Thread Kent Osterberg
Nathan, There are no jumpers, each j-box has a single terminal. It has 4 square multi-crystalline cells, a 2 bronze colored frame, and measures 17.5 x 42; just a little smaller than a MSX-60. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 3/24/2012 10:26 AM, Nathan

Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual Module

2012-03-24 Thread Kent Osterberg
Allan, Your right about the modules from Carrizo being made by Arco. And weren't they mono-crystalline? Three of these modules in series would be 30 cells and not enough voltage for charging a 12-volt battery. But I think that's the biggest similarity to a Quad-Lam. Kent Osterberg Blue

[RE-wrenches] Evergreen Spruce 190 modules

2012-03-23 Thread Kent Osterberg
. -- Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re

Re: [RE-wrenches] Listed Battery Enclosure?

2012-03-22 Thread Kent Osterberg
I agree, Brian; especially when the battery system is large. It's important to design the room so it can be in compliance with NEC 480.9. (A) Ventilation, (B) Guarding live parts. The locked door qualifies, and (C) Working space. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cracked Glass...Warranty?

2012-03-13 Thread Kent Osterberg
to fracture from any minor stress. The glass will usually have larger fragments in that area and finer fragments farther away. A shorted diode should be warranty issue. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 3/13/2012 12:21 PM, benn kilburn wrote: Wrenches, I recently

Re: [RE-wrenches] Starting fires for fun with string wiring

2012-03-11 Thread Kent Osterberg
boB, Most local codes, have granted a delay on implementing arc fault protection. Also, the code only requires series faults to be cleared. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 3/11/2012 8:28 PM, b...@midnitesolar.com wrote: On 3/11/2012 7

Re: [RE-wrenches] low head/low cost solar pump

2012-02-24 Thread Kent Osterberg
Mac, It probably doesn't pass the low cost hurdle, but this sounds like the perfect situation for a Dankoff Suncentric pump. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 2/24/2012 7:49 AM, mac Lewis wrote: Hi wrenches, I am looking for a relatively

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