Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
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Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
On 6/6/2020 5:46 PM, WaltS48 wrote: On 6/6/20 1:25 PM, Frog wrote: On 6/5/2020 4:19 PM, WaltS48 wrote: On 6/5/20 1:09 PM, Frog wrote: On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog I always thought that email messages went into that accounts Sent folder and not the Local Folders > Sent folder. The Sent folder in Local Folders is where newsgroup messages I send get placed. That's the way my SeaMonkey works anyway. The Sent folder in Local Folders is a computer folder. You need to configure the email accounts "Copies & Folders" settings to "Automatically place a copy in: "Sent" Folder on: Local Folders. I always place the copy in the accounts Sent folder. It is the default location. Thanks for your response to my message...very much appreciated. I was up until after 1AM trying to track down the information you referred to in your message. I did find the Local Folder that is located in my Profile. Here is what it presently looks like: This PC > Data (E) > SeaMonkeyProfile > Mail > incoming.verizon.net Name Date modified Type Size Trash.msf 6/5/2020 3:23 PM MSF File 279 KB Trash 6/5/2020 3:20 PM File 24,174 KB Templates.msf 6/1/2020 7:27 PM MSF File 2 KB Templates 9/14/2006 9:37 PM File 0 KB Sent.mst 6/5/2020 5:11 PM MSF File 3 KB Sent 9/14/2006 9:37 PM File 0 KB popstate.dat 6/5/2020 2:31 PM DAT File 1 KB msgfilterRules.dat 7/18/2010 6:16 PM DAT File 1 KB Junk.msf 3/28/2007 10:30 AM MSF File 2 KB Inbox.msf 6/5/2020 6:34 P.M MSF File 357 KB Inbox – Shortcut.lnk.mst 6/5/2020 11:41 AM MSF File 54 KB Inbox – Shortcut 6/9/2012 1:21 AM Shortcut 1 KB Inbox 6/5/2020 3:32 PM File 33,813 Drafts.msf 6/1/2020 8:52 PM MSF File 3 KB Drafts 9/14/2006 9:37 PM File 0 KB It appears to me that everything is going into this display except Sent messages. Thus, I continued my Profile search made...having a look at the Copies & Folder settings...here is what I found. Copies & Folders When sending messages: Checked - automatically place a copy in Dot - "Sent" Folder on Local Folders No Dot - Other Folder Not Selected Not Checked - Place replies in the folder of the message being replied to Not Checked - Cc these email addresses Blank Not Checked - Bcc these email addressses Blank Message Archives Checked - Keep Messages archived in: Active options... Dot - "Archives" Folder on Local Folders No Dot - Other Folder: Blank Drafts and Templates Keep draft messages in Dot "Drafts" Folder on: Blank No Dot Other Folder Blank Keep Message Templates in: Dot "Templates" folder on: Blank No Dot other Folder Blank Not Checked Show confirmation dialog when messages are saved I hope the above information displays properly. I do not see what changes I have to make in order to get my sent messaged headed for my my profile. Help Frog Is this an email account? Change the account settings to: Copies & Folders When sending messages: Checked - automatically place a copy in Dot - "Sent" Folder on "the account and forget about Local folders" Walt448 You made an old man very happy today. I did as you suggested, and it worked perfectly. Thank you very much for finding the solution for my problem. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
On 6/6/20 1:25 PM, Frog wrote: On 6/5/2020 4:19 PM, WaltS48 wrote: On 6/5/20 1:09 PM, Frog wrote: On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog I always thought that email messages went into that accounts Sent folder and not the Local Folders > Sent folder. The Sent folder in Local Folders is where newsgroup messages I send get placed. That's the way my SeaMonkey works anyway. The Sent folder in Local Folders is a computer folder. You need to configure the email accounts "Copies & Folders" settings to "Automatically place a copy in: "Sent" Folder on: Local Folders. I always place the copy in the accounts Sent folder. It is the default location. Thanks for your response to my message...very much appreciated. I was up until after 1AM trying to track down the information you referred to in your message. I did find the Local Folder that is located in my Profile. Here is what it presently looks like: This PC > Data (E) > SeaMonkeyProfile > Mail > incoming.verizon.net Name Date modified Type Size Trash.msf 6/5/2020 3:23 PM MSF File 279 KB Trash 6/5/2020 3:20 PM File 24,174 KB Templates.msf 6/1/2020 7:27 PM MSF File 2 KB Templates 9/14/2006 9:37 PM File 0 KB Sent.mst 6/5/2020 5:11 PM MSF File 3 KB Sent 9/14/2006 9:37 PM File 0 KB popstate.dat 6/5/2020 2:31 PM DAT File 1 KB msgfilterRules.dat 7/18/2010 6:16 PM DAT File 1 KB Junk.msf 3/28/2007 10:30 AM MSF File 2 KB Inbox.msf 6/5/2020 6:34 P.M MSF File 357 KB Inbox – Shortcut.lnk.mst 6/5/2020 11:41 AM MSF File 54 KB Inbox – Shortcut 6/9/2012 1:21 AM Shortcut 1 KB Inbox 6/5/2020 3:32 PM File 33,813 Drafts.msf 6/1/2020 8:52 PM MSF File 3 KB Drafts 9/14/2006 9:37 PM File 0 KB It appears to me that everything is going into this display except Sent messages. Thus, I continued my Profile search made...having a look at the Copies & Folder settings...here is what I found. Copies & Folders When sending messages: Checked - automatically place a copy in Dot - "Sent" Folder on Local Folders No Dot - Other Folder Not Selected Not Checked - Place replies in the folder of the message being replied to Not Checked - Cc these email addresses Blank Not Checked - Bcc these email addressses Blank Message Archives Checked - Keep Messages archived in: Active options... Dot - "Archives" Folder on Local Folders No Dot - Other Folder: Blank Drafts and Templates Keep draft messages in Dot "Drafts" Folder on: Blank No Dot Other Folder Blank Keep Message Templates in: Dot "Templates" folder on: Blank No Dot other Folder Blank Not Checked Show confirmation dialog when messages are saved I hope the above information displays properly. I do not see what changes I have to make in order to get my sent messaged headed for my my profile. Help Frog Is this an email account? Change the account settings to: Copies & Folders When sending messages: Checked - automatically place a copy in Dot- "Sent" Folder on "the account and forget about Local folders" -- OS: Ubuntu Linux 18.04LTS - Gnome Desktop https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/get-involved/ https://give.thunderbird.net/en-US/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
On 6/5/2020 2:28 PM, EE wrote: Frog wrote: On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog I have not given up on making SeaMonkey move a copy of an outgoing message to my Sent folder...and I might have found my answer to my problem. I took a look at Local Folders to see what clues the Sent file might reveal, and this is what I found: Name Date modified Type Size Sent 6/4/2020 7:23 File 2,605,188 ... Sent.mst 6/4/2020 7.23 MSF File 2 KB I decided that the Sent folder was likely full, so I proceeded to rename the two folders (OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf). I then visited the the OLD Sent and OLD Sent.msf Properties in order to make a new Sent and a new Sent.msf folders like the original folders. Next, I created two new folders in Local Folders (Sent and Sent.mst). Well, all seemed to be going good at this point; so I sent a test message to myself to see if a copy was placed in my sent file. I got the following window when I attempted to send my test message: Save Message Your message was sent, but a copy was not placed in your sent folder (Sent) due to network or file access errors. You can retry or save the message locally to Local Folders/sent Local Folders. Retry Save Don't Save My thinking was, the system just needs to find the new Sent - Sent.msf folders and all would be working normally...thus, I clicked Save in the above window. My next move was paying a visit to Local Files>Sent to see my saved message...I could not find my message. All of the above tells me that something has changed as a result of my actions. I did not receive any "Save Message" window previously, when I sent a message. I also learned that the Sent folder was stuffed (likely to its limits) and could not hold another message. I also am not able to find a way of opening the stuffed Sent folder to remove the overload that exists. I did notice that the original folders simply identified the type of file as Sent and Sent.msf and the new folder identify is "Sent folder" and "Sent.msf folder". I cannot figure out how to change the new folders to look like the old original folders. Well, there you you have a recap of my actions taken to activate storage of my sent messages on my system. I can delete the new Sent and Sent.msf folders and rename the the OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf folders to Sent and Sent.msf. Frog P.S. I continue to think about the other suggestions made in this thread. Be assured that they are all very much appreciated at this time of trying to make my computer work. Maybe if you had done things the other way around, it would have worked. Instead of renaming the Sent folder, create a new folder called Sent-old and transfer the messages from Sent to that. If you use the File button, it is very easy to transfer messages from one folder to another. Thanks for your response. I have deleted the new Sent and Sent.msg folders. I then renamed the OLD_Sent folder to Sent and the OLD_Sent.msg folder to Sent.msg. I am now back to where I was originally. I still cannot make outgoing messages flow into the Sent folder. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
On 6/5/2020 4:19 PM, WaltS48 wrote: On 6/5/20 1:09 PM, Frog wrote: On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog I always thought that email messages went into that accounts Sent folder and not the Local Folders > Sent folder. The Sent folder in Local Folders is where newsgroup messages I send get placed. That's the way my SeaMonkey works anyway. The Sent folder in Local Folders is a computer folder. You need to configure the email accounts "Copies & Folders" settings to "Automatically place a copy in: "Sent" Folder on: Local Folders. I always place the copy in the accounts Sent folder. It is the default location. Thanks for your response to my message...very much appreciated. I was up until after 1AM trying to track down the information you referred to in your message. I did find the Local Folder that is located in my Profile. Here is what it presently looks like: This PC > Data (E) > SeaMonkeyProfile > Mail > incoming.verizon.net NameDate modified Type Size Trash.msf 6/5/2020 3:23 PMMSF File 279 KB Trash 6/5/2020 3:20 PMFile 24,174 KB Templates.msf 6/1/2020 7:27 PMMSF File 2 KB Templates 9/14/2006 9:37 PM File 0 KB Sent.mst6/5/2020 5:11 PMMSF File 3 KB Sent9/14/2006 9:37 PM File 0 KB popstate.dat6/5/2020 2:31 PMDAT File 1 KB msgfilterRules.dat7/18/2010 6:16 PM DAT File 1 KB Junk.msf3/28/2007 10:30 AM MSF File 2 KB Inbox.msf 6/5/2020 6:34 P.M MSF File 357 KB Inbox – Shortcut.lnk.mst 6/5/2020 11:41 AM MSF File 54 KB Inbox – Shortcut 6/9/2012 1:21 AM Shortcut 1 KB Inbox 6/5/2020 3:32 PMFile 33,813 Drafts.msf 6/1/2020 8:52 PMMSF File 3 KB Drafts 9/14/2006 9:37 PM File 0 KB It appears to me that everything is going into this display except Sent messages. Thus, I continued my Profile search made...having a look at the Copies & Folder settings...here is what I found. Copies & Folders When sending messages: Checked - automatically place a copy in Dot- "Sent" Folder onLocal Folders No Dot - Other Folder Not Selected Not Checked - Place replies in the folder of the message being replied to Not Checked - Cc these email addresses Blank Not Checked - Bcc these email addressses Blank Message Archives Checked - Keep Messages archived in:Active options... Dot - "Archives" Folder onLocal Folders No Dot - Other Folder:Blank Drafts and Templates Keep draft messages in Dot "Drafts" Folder on: Blank No DotOther Folder Blank Keep Message Templates in: Dot "Templates" folder on: Blank No Dotother Folder Blank Not Checked Show confirmation dialog when messages are saved I hope the above information displays properly. I do not see what changes I have to make in order to get my sent messaged headed for my my profile. Help Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
On 6/5/20 1:09 PM, Frog wrote: On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog I have not given up on making SeaMonkey move a copy of an outgoing message to my Sent folder...and I might have found my answer to my problem. I took a look at Local Folders to see what clues the Sent file might reveal, and this is what I found: Name Date modified Type Size Sent 6/4/2020 7:23 File 2,605,188 ... Sent.mst 6/4/2020 7.23 MSF File 2 KB I decided that the Sent folder was likely full, so I proceeded to rename the two folders (OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf). I then visited the the OLD Sent and OLD Sent.msf Properties in order to make a new Sent and a new Sent.msf folders like the original folders. Next, I created two new folders in Local Folders (Sent and Sent.mst). Well, all seemed to be going good at this point; so I sent a test message to myself to see if a copy was placed in my sent file. I got the following window when I attempted to send my test message: Save Message Your message was sent, but a copy was not placed in your sent folder (Sent) due to network or file access errors. You can retry or save the message locally to Local Folders/sent Local Folders. Retry Save Don't Save My thinking was, the system just needs to find the new Sent - Sent.msf folders and all would be working normally...thus, I clicked Save in the above window. My next move was paying a visit to Local Files>Sent to see my saved message...I could not find my message. All of the above tells me that something has changed as a result of my actions. I did not receive any "Save Message" window previously, when I sent a message. I also learned that the Sent folder was stuffed (likely to its limits) and could not hold another message. I also am not able to find a way of opening the stuffed Sent folder to remove the overload that exists. I did notice that the original folders simply identified the type of file as Sent and Sent.msf and the new folder identify is "Sent folder" and "Sent.msf folder". I cannot figure out how to change the new folders to look like the old original folders. Well, there you you have a recap of my actions taken to activate storage of my sent messages on my system. I can delete the new Sent and Sent.msf folders and rename the the OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf folders to Sent and Sent.msf. Frog P.S. I continue to think about the other suggestions made in this thread. Be assured that they are all very much appreciated at this time of trying to make my computer work. I always thought that email messages went into that accounts Sent folder and not the Local Folders > Sent folder. The Sent folder in Local Folders is where newsgroup messages I send get placed. That's the way my SeaMonkey works anyway. The Sent folder in Local Folders is a computer folder. You need to configure the email accounts "Copies & Folders" settings to "Automatically place a copy in: "Sent" Folder on: Local Folders. I always place the copy in the accounts Sent folder. It is the default location. -- OS: Ubuntu Linux 18.04LTS - Gnome Desktop https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/get-involved/ https://give.thunderbird.net/en-US/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
Frog wrote: On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog I have not given up on making SeaMonkey move a copy of an outgoing message to my Sent folder...and I might have found my answer to my problem. I took a look at Local Folders to see what clues the Sent file might reveal, and this is what I found: Name Date modified Type Size Sent 6/4/2020 7:23 File 2,605,188 ... Sent.mst 6/4/2020 7.23 MSF File 2 KB I decided that the Sent folder was likely full, so I proceeded to rename the two folders (OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf). I then visited the the OLD Sent and OLD Sent.msf Properties in order to make a new Sent and a new Sent.msf folders like the original folders. Next, I created two new folders in Local Folders (Sent and Sent.mst). Well, all seemed to be going good at this point; so I sent a test message to myself to see if a copy was placed in my sent file. I got the following window when I attempted to send my test message: Save Message Your message was sent, but a copy was not placed in your sent folder (Sent) due to network or file access errors. You can retry or save the message locally to Local Folders/sent Local Folders. Retry Save Don't Save My thinking was, the system just needs to find the new Sent - Sent.msf folders and all would be working normally...thus, I clicked Save in the above window. My next move was paying a visit to Local Files>Sent to see my saved message...I could not find my message. All of the above tells me that something has changed as a result of my actions. I did not receive any "Save Message" window previously, when I sent a message. I also learned that the Sent folder was stuffed (likely to its limits) and could not hold another message. I also am not able to find a way of opening the stuffed Sent folder to remove the overload that exists. I did notice that the original folders simply identified the type of file as Sent and Sent.msf and the new folder identify is "Sent folder" and "Sent.msf folder". I cannot figure out how to change the new folders to look like the old original folders. Well, there you you have a recap of my actions taken to activate storage of my sent messages on my system. I can delete the new Sent and Sent.msf folders and rename the the OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf folders to Sent and Sent.msf. Frog P.S. I continue to think about the other suggestions made in this thread. Be assured that they are all very much appreciated at this time of trying to make my computer work. Maybe if you had done things the other way around, it would have worked. Instead of renaming the Sent folder, create a new folder called Sent-old and transfer the messages from Sent to that. If you use the File button, it is very easy to transfer messages from one folder to another. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog I have not given up on making SeaMonkey move a copy of an outgoing message to my Sent folder...and I might have found my answer to my problem. I took a look at Local Folders to see what clues the Sent file might reveal, and this is what I found: NameDate modified TypeSize Sent6/4/2020 7:23 File2,605,188 ... Sent.mst6/4/2020 7.23 MSF File2 KB I decided that the Sent folder was likely full, so I proceeded to rename the two folders (OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf). I then visited the the OLD Sent and OLD Sent.msf Properties in order to make a new Sent and a new Sent.msf folders like the original folders. Next, I created two new folders in Local Folders (Sent and Sent.mst). Well, all seemed to be going good at this point; so I sent a test message to myself to see if a copy was placed in my sent file. I got the following window when I attempted to send my test message: Save Message Your message was sent, but a copy was not placed in your sent folder (Sent) due to network or file access errors. You can retry or save the message locally to Local Folders/sent Local Folders. Retry SaveDon't Save My thinking was, the system just needs to find the new Sent - Sent.msf folders and all would be working normally...thus, I clicked Save in the above window. My next move was paying a visit to Local Files>Sent to see my saved message...I could not find my message. All of the above tells me that something has changed as a result of my actions. I did not receive any "Save Message" window previously, when I sent a message. I also learned that the Sent folder was stuffed (likely to its limits) and could not hold another message. I also am not able to find a way of opening the stuffed Sent folder to remove the overload that exists. I did notice that the original folders simply identified the type of file as Sent and Sent.msf and the new folder identify is "Sent folder" and "Sent.msf folder". I cannot figure out how to change the new folders to look like the old original folders. Well, there you you have a recap of my actions taken to activate storage of my sent messages on my system. I can delete the new Sent and Sent.msf folders and rename the the OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf folders to Sent and Sent.msf. Frog P.S. I continue to think about the other suggestions made in this thread. Be assured that they are all very much appreciated at this time of trying to make my computer work. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 5/06/2020 4:24 AM: Daniel wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 4/06/2020 12:48 AM: Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog Why are you opening new threads? Make a complete Windows backup Deinstall Seamonkey x86 Deinstall Seamonkey x64 Deinstall Thunderbird. Reboot Make sure that nothing is left in C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey Install SeaMonkey 2.53.2 x64. Frank-Rainer, I don't know if this would effect Frog at all but should Frog be installing an x64 program on a WOW64 OS ... or might he be better off if he switched to the 32 bit SeaMonkey installer?? WOW64 is not an OS. It is the subsystem of 64-bit Windows used to run 32-bit applications, mainly for cases where a 64-bit version of the application is not available. If something shows up as running on "WOW64", it means it's a 32-bit application running on a system which is capable of running 64-bit applications (64-bit Windows on a 64-bit CPU). While that should work, Windows does a number of strange things for compatibility when running 32-bit applications under WOW64, so it's probably better to run the native 64-bit version if one is available (which it is for recent versions of SeaMonkey). O.K., I'll try to remember to pull my head in!! ;-) I thought WOW64 was a 32-bit OS which had been modified to operate on a 64 bit system. Thanks! -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Daniel wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 4/06/2020 12:48 AM: Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog Why are you opening new threads? Make a complete Windows backup Deinstall Seamonkey x86 Deinstall Seamonkey x64 Deinstall Thunderbird. Reboot Make sure that nothing is left in C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey Install SeaMonkey 2.53.2 x64. Frank-Rainer, I don't know if this would effect Frog at all but should Frog be installing an x64 program on a WOW64 OS ... or might he be better off if he switched to the 32 bit SeaMonkey installer?? WOW64 is not an OS. It is the subsystem of 64-bit Windows used to run 32-bit applications, mainly for cases where a 64-bit version of the application is not available. If something shows up as running on "WOW64", it means it's a 32-bit application running on a system which is capable of running 64-bit applications (64-bit Windows on a 64-bit CPU). While that should work, Windows does a number of strange things for compatibility when running 32-bit applications under WOW64, so it's probably better to run the native 64-bit version if one is available (which it is for recent versions of SeaMonkey). IF you have at least 4GB and a Windows x64 go with x64. If you have less than 4GB you shouldn't run Windows x64 anyway. 8GB recommended. The "new" web and its sh*tty websites like to have more memory. FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
Daniel wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 4/06/2020 12:48 AM: Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog Why are you opening new threads? Make a complete Windows backup Deinstall Seamonkey x86 Deinstall Seamonkey x64 Deinstall Thunderbird. Reboot Make sure that nothing is left in C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey Install SeaMonkey 2.53.2 x64. Frank-Rainer, I don't know if this would effect Frog at all but should Frog be installing an x64 program on a WOW64 OS ... or might he be better off if he switched to the 32 bit SeaMonkey installer?? WOW64 is not an OS. It is the subsystem of 64-bit Windows used to run 32-bit applications, mainly for cases where a 64-bit version of the application is not available. If something shows up as running on "WOW64", it means it's a 32-bit application running on a system which is capable of running 64-bit applications (64-bit Windows on a 64-bit CPU). While that should work, Windows does a number of strange things for compatibility when running 32-bit applications under WOW64, so it's probably better to run the native 64-bit version if one is available (which it is for recent versions of SeaMonkey). -- Mark. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 4/06/2020 12:48 AM: Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog Why are you opening new threads? Make a complete Windows backup Deinstall Seamonkey x86 Deinstall Seamonkey x64 Deinstall Thunderbird. Reboot Make sure that nothing is left in C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey Install SeaMonkey 2.53.2 x64. Frank-Rainer, I don't know if this would effect Frog at all but should Frog be installing an x64 program on a WOW64 OS ... or might he be better off if he switched to the 32 bit SeaMonkey installer?? -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Without uninstalling TB it is game over. You will be unable to set SeaMonkey as an application for news. As I wrote some time ago. There seems to be a bug in the SM installer which does not register the protocols if it finds Thunderbird. MIght be fixed in the future if I or IanN find the time but not for 2.53.3. Can't you do it from Windows? Control Panel | Default Programs | Set Associations Scroll to the bottom and use the "Change Program" button to specify SeaMonkey for the protocols NEWS, NNTP, SNEWS. Having done so, launch SM and create a news account for mozilla.support.seamonkey and any other newsgroups you like. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
Frog wrote: On 6/3/2020 10:48 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog Why are you opening new threads? SeaMonkey. I will now recap what I have done as a result of your message: Make a complete Windows backup I made the backup. Deinstall Seamonkey x86 Deinstall Seamonkey x64 Deinstall Thunderbird. I did deinstall both Seamonkey x86 and x64. I did not deinstall Thunderbird…it is the only way I have of accessing the newsgroup. Without uninstalling TB it is game over. You will be unable to set SeaMonkey as an application for news. As I wrote some time ago. There seems to be a bug in the SM installer which does not register the protocols if it finds Thunderbird. MIght be fixed in the future if I or IanN find the time but not for 2.53.3. FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
On 6/3/2020 10:48 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog Why are you opening new threads? You asked me a question, and I will reply to that question. Yes, I have sent several connected threads over the past several days-weeks. This response is not to show disrespect for the help I have received from this newsgroup in past years…it has truly been professional in all respects; and I appreciate what individuals willingly give of their time to assist me and others, when they don’t know the answer to a SeaMonkey problem. I am in no way an expert at the technical aspects of a computer…in fact, I recently replaced my old flip phone for a new Jitterbug smart phone…and even that is currently a challenge for my lacking technical skills. Well, back to “Why are you opening new threads? My recent threads do deal with one software program…SeaMonkey. I presently do not know, after my many recent threads, why…I can see newsgroup subjects, but I cannot open them in SeaMonkey, and I do not know why my non-newsgroup messages are not being recorded in my Sent folder. I decided, since I have not gotten a solution for my problems, I would start attempting to take them one at a time. Yes, I am not the youngest person to need help (83); but I have no other place to turn for help…particularly now that I have to watch myself during this virus situation. I hope you understand my reasoning for the message in this thread…I was looking for easy to follow instructions in order that I would be able to return to a normal SeaMonkey. I will now recap what I have done as a result of your message: Make a complete Windows backup I made the backup. Deinstall Seamonkey x86 Deinstall Seamonkey x64 Deinstall Thunderbird. I did deinstall both Seamonkey x86 and x64. I did not deinstall Thunderbird…it is the only way I have of accessing the newsgroup. Reboot I rebooted my system after SeaMonkey was removed. Make sure that nothing is left in C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey I did make this check, and no SeaMonkey was found in Program Files. Install SeaMonkey 2.53.2 x64. I reinstalled SeaMonkey 2.53.2 x64 as you suggested. Make sure it is installed in C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey That is where it is installed. Make it the default for mail, browser and news protocols I do not know how to make default for browser and news protocols. It is identified as default for mail. . Make sure that you profile data is found and accessible. If unsure create a new profile and copy all the old data into it. My profile was found without my involvement. FRG Here are the results---my problems in SeaMonkey have not changed. When I click on a message to open it, I see one page flash by followed by a second window… Window #1 is titled “Re: Moderated posts on News.mozilla.org (technical) – mozilla.general on news.mozilla.com – SeaMonkey” Window #2 is titled “SeaMonkey”;and it is the one that comes up, when I open my browser. I can send a message from SeaMonkey…this message does not show up in my Sent file. Again, I do thank you for your help…and, hopefully, your continued help in the future. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog Why are you opening new threads? Make a complete Windows backup Deinstall Seamonkey x86 Deinstall Seamonkey x64 Deinstall Thunderbird. Reboot Make sure that nothing is left in C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey Install SeaMonkey 2.53.2 x64. Make sure it is installed in C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey Make it the default for mail, browser and news protocols. Make sure that you profile data is found and accessible. If unsure create a new profile and copy all the old data into it. FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent folder and never received for the recipient!!!
cyberzen wrote: Alex Beauroy a écrit : is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent folder and never received for the recipient!!! It happened 10 times during the last 24 hours Should I quit SeaMonkey and rely on Thunderbird now??? Best Regards @lex This one sounds like a server-level problem, somewhere between your provider and the recipient's provider, and I'm inclined to believe the latter, especially if you're not seeing any problems with sending mail to others. As a general thing, when mail is sent, if it doesn't reach the mailbox of the intended recipient, there's usually some sort of paper trail. If the message is undeliverable with a permanent error (e.g., "no such user exists"), you'll get a bounce message. If it's undeliverable because of a temporary error (e.g., server not responding), it's typical that the sending server will generate a notification to the original sender that the message has not yet been delivered, but will keep trying. At the receiving server, it's unusual (but not impossible) that a message is silently delivered to the bit bucket. If the message is reaching the target server, but not the addressee's inbox, then the most likely thing is that the message is being designated as spam on the server, and being dropped into a Spam folder. If the recipient uses a POP connection, then it means that the only folder in the mailbox that is visible to the user is the inbox. Short of setting up an IMAP connection, the only way the user can see the rest of the mailbox is via the provider's web client, and then checking the spam folder. How providers do spam handling varies widely -- some may use SpamAssassin or similar tool. Some may allow for user-specified tuning, such a "Junk" or "not Junk" button, or whitelisting of senders listed in the user's address book. (I'm also assuming that the recipient doesn't have any user-defined rules or filters -- I have seen it happen where a user has a rule that is intended to delete certain inbound messages, but where it hasn't been tested well enough, and the effect is to delete legitimate mail) If you want to know if a mail is really sent, don't put a copy in the sent folder, but include yourself in the recipient's list (invisible carbon copy) then filter input mail from yourself to put it in the sent folder at least, you will know if the mail can be received of course there could be some problems at the recipient side (or provider) That's probably the fastest/easiest test -- that confirms that the message has made it out of your client and to your provider's server, but it can't tell you how the recipient's server (or any intermediary servers) may be handling the message. My best guess is that the message is getting to the receiver's server, but that spam filtering or rules handling is putting it into a folder that the recipient doesn't (or can't see) with their normal setups. Smith Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent folder and never received for the recipient!!!
Alex Beauroy wrote on 03-11-18 18:18: On 03/11/2018 16:56, cyberzen wrote: Alex Beauroy a écrit : is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent folder and never received for the recipient!!! It happened 10 times during the last 24 hours Should I quit SeaMonkey and rely on Thunderbird now??? Best Regards @lex If you want to know if a mail is really sent, don't put a copy in the sent folder, but include yourself in the recipient's list (invisible carbon copy) then filter input mail from yourself to put it in the sent folder at least, you will know if the mail can be received of course there could be some problems at the recipient side (or provider) I'm sending my important e-mail with a bcc to another e-mail address. When I don't get my bcc copy on the second e-mail address there's something wrong! And this is the problem I tried to describe! So when you try this simple test: test number 1. Write a mail from my.adr...@mail.com to another.adr...@anothermail.com then send it. Is this mail received at another.adr...@anothermail.com ? (which is your "another e-mail address") then do another simple test: test number 2. Write a mail from my.adr...@mail.com to my.adr...@mail.com then send it. Is this mail received at my.adr...@mail.com ? If the test number 2 failed then the culprit is the mailserver of the domain mail.com If the test number 2 is a success and the test number 1 fail then the culprit is the mailserver of the domain anothermail.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent folder and never received for the recipient!!!
On 03/11/2018 16:56, cyberzen wrote: Alex Beauroy a écrit : is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent folder and never received for the recipient!!! It happened 10 times during the last 24 hours Should I quit SeaMonkey and rely on Thunderbird now??? Best Regards @lex If you want to know if a mail is really sent, don't put a copy in the sent folder, but include yourself in the recipient's list (invisible carbon copy) then filter input mail from yourself to put it in the sent folder at least, you will know if the mail can be received of course there could be some problems at the recipient side (or provider) I'm sending my important e-mail with a bcc to another e-mail address. When I don't get my bcc copy on the second e-mail address there's something wrong! And this is the problem I tried to describe! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent folder and never received for the recipient!!!
Alex Beauroy a écrit : is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent folder and never received for the recipient!!! It happened 10 times during the last 24 hours Should I quit SeaMonkey and rely on Thunderbird now??? Best Regards @lex If you want to know if a mail is really sent, don't put a copy in the sent folder, but include yourself in the recipient's list (invisible carbon copy) then filter input mail from yourself to put it in the sent folder at least, you will know if the mail can be received of course there could be some problems at the recipient side (or provider) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent folder and never received for the recipient!!!
Alex Beauroy wrote: is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent folder and never received for the recipient!!! It happened 10 times during the last 24 hours Should I quit SeaMonkey and rely on Thunderbird now??? Best Regards @lex Are we talking one recipient for the 10 mails or multiple recipients? If multiple recipients, are they all under one domain (for example wanadoo.fr)? Normally I'd expect - in this case - wanadoo to tell you if the mails could not be delivered. I suppose you could test that by mailing me on the address I'm faking here. Oh, and you are really "online"? The outgoing mails are not stuck in waiting-to-be-sent-when-you-go-online? -- spammus ergo sum ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent folder and never received for the recipient!!!
On 02/11/2018 19:23, David E. Ross wrote: On 11/2/2018 11:11 AM, Alex Beauroy wrote: is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent folder and never received for the recipient!!! It happened 10 times during the last 24 hours Should I quit SeaMonkey and rely on Thunderbird now??? Best Regards @lex Such a problem is not always within your own system. Among other causes: * The recipient's mail host might block the message because the recipients inbox is full, because your ISP was (erroniously?) identified as a source of spam, or because a possibly innocent attachment to your message violates some policy. I have seen this happen. Worse, I have seen this happen when the recipient's mail host is not configured to issue a bounce message. * Your own ISP's mail server blocked the message because of an attachment that is a file-type it does not allow. I once used an ISP that would not allow me to send an application (file-type .exe) as an attachment. It also prevented me from sending ZIP files. Both of these were considered sources of malware. Again, I got no response message that my E-mail did not go through. (In the case of an application, I would zip it; for that and other ZIP attachments, I would then remove the file-extension, My E-mail would instruct the recipient to restore the .zip extension and then unzip it.) Thanks a lot for your quick answer!! I have a lot of doubts regarding my ISP, who doesn't take car of the land lines network, as I'm living in the country side. But I'll have to check everything and just try again. Anyway I'll get everyone informed of what is going on in this thread!!! Thanks a lot for your assistance @lex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent folder and never received for the recipient!!!
On 11/2/2018 11:11 AM, Alex Beauroy wrote: > is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent > folder and never received for the recipient!!! > It happened 10 times during the last 24 hours > Should I quit SeaMonkey and rely on Thunderbird now??? > Best Regards > @lex > Such a problem is not always within your own system. Among other causes: * The recipient's mail host might block the message because the recipients inbox is full, because your ISP was (erroniously?) identified as a source of spam, or because a possibly innocent attachment to your message violates some policy. I have seen this happen. Worse, I have seen this happen when the recipient's mail host is not configured to issue a bounce message. * Your own ISP's mail server blocked the message because of an attachment that is a file-type it does not allow. I once used an ISP that would not allow me to send an application (file-type .exe) as an attachment. It also prevented me from sending ZIP files. Both of these were considered sources of malware. Again, I got no response message that my E-mail did not go through. (In the case of an application, I would zip it; for that and other ZIP attachments, I would then remove the file-extension, My E-mail would instruct the recipient to restore the .zip extension and then unzip it.) -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> President Trump claims there would have been no victims in the Pittsburgh synagogue if there were armed guards inside. He ignores the fact that there were two police officers already in the facility, armed with their service weapons, before the shooting started. The problem of mass shootings cannot be solved by having even more guns. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent folder and never received for the recipient!!!
is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent folder and never received for the recipient!!! It happened 10 times during the last 24 hours Should I quit SeaMonkey and rely on Thunderbird now??? Best Regards @lex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No sent folder
Thanks Ray_Net wrote: Mike C wrote on 02-09-18 06:31: Why don't I have a sent folder? Your "sent folder" is into the "Local Folders" --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No sent folder
Mike C wrote on 02-09-18 06:31: Why don't I have a sent folder? Your "sent folder" is into the "Local Folders" ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
No sent folder
Why don't I have a sent folder? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder
On 26/10/2015 10:42 PM, Daniel wrote: On 26/10/2015 4:00 AM, Alex Beauroy wrote: On 25/10/2015 14:20, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Alex Beauroy wrote: On 18/10/2015 15:46, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Alex Beauroy wrote: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in "Mail settings" Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder Best Regards @lex Look under "Server Settings" for that account and under "Local directory" will give to the local path to the containing directory of that mail account. Example: C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL] AppData is hidden by default so unless you have set in Explorer you will not be able to see this path, and may have to specify the complete path or use the ENV var %APPDATA% %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL] In that folder there should be a "Sent" file which is the account's mbox Sent folder %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]\Sent Thanks for your quick answer. After looking from the "server settings" inside the "Local Directory" I have not been able to find "Sent Folder". May be this folder must be a hided file, or do I have to create it Let me know what you think You should not have to. It is auto-generated after send an email on that account *IF* in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" you have "When sending messages:" enabled and the Sent folder set to that account. See my example <http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/sent> Thanks Jonathan, I understand , and in my "Mail & Newsgroup Accounts settings" I have checked the option : "Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder". But since Oct the 10th it had stopped working. I had in mind that other SeaMonkey users had experienced this and that the developers had a solution for this. So to summarize my problem it have been working perfectly as you describe it : "It is auto-generated after send an email on that > account *IF* in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" you have "When > sending messages:" enabled and the Sent folder set to that account. " but the very last e-mail sent in this folder is dated 10/10/2015. I can manage with that as I am now manually "BCC:" my e-mails to another e-mail address but I think that it is better to improve the quality of SeaMonkey by warning the users and developers. Best Regards @lex Alex, another possibility just occured to me I have my SeaMonkey set up to place a copy of my Sent e-mail in the Sent folder of my E-Mail account. I also have a Local Folders account and it has its own Sent folder. Could it be that you have/had a similar arrangement and, for some reason, your sent E-Mails are being placed in your Local Folders Sent folder?? And then I read where ChrisI had already helped you find your messages! :-( -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150904215228 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder
On 26/10/2015 4:00 AM, Alex Beauroy wrote: On 25/10/2015 14:20, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Alex Beauroy wrote: On 18/10/2015 15:46, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Alex Beauroy wrote: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in "Mail settings" Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder Best Regards @lex Look under "Server Settings" for that account and under "Local directory" will give to the local path to the containing directory of that mail account. Example: C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL] AppData is hidden by default so unless you have set in Explorer you will not be able to see this path, and may have to specify the complete path or use the ENV var %APPDATA% %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL] In that folder there should be a "Sent" file which is the account's mbox Sent folder %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]\Sent Thanks for your quick answer. After looking from the "server settings" inside the "Local Directory" I have not been able to find "Sent Folder". May be this folder must be a hided file, or do I have to create it Let me know what you think You should not have to. It is auto-generated after send an email on that account *IF* in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" you have "When sending messages:" enabled and the Sent folder set to that account. See my example <http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/sent> Thanks Jonathan, I understand , and in my "Mail & Newsgroup Accounts settings" I have checked the option : "Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder". But since Oct the 10th it had stopped working. I had in mind that other SeaMonkey users had experienced this and that the developers had a solution for this. So to summarize my problem it have been working perfectly as you describe it : "It is auto-generated after send an email on that > account *IF* in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" you have "When > sending messages:" enabled and the Sent folder set to that account. " but the very last e-mail sent in this folder is dated 10/10/2015. I can manage with that as I am now manually "BCC:" my e-mails to another e-mail address but I think that it is better to improve the quality of SeaMonkey by warning the users and developers. Best Regards @lex Alex, another possibility just occured to me I have my SeaMonkey set up to place a copy of my Sent e-mail in the Sent folder of my E-Mail account. I also have a Local Folders account and it has its own Sent folder. Could it be that you have/had a similar arrangement and, for some reason, your sent E-Mails are being placed in your Local Folders Sent folder?? -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150904215228 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder Thanks to all of you !!! Problem solved!!!
On 26/10/2015 00:25, Alex Beauroy wrote: On 25/10/2015 20:51, Chris Ilias wrote: On 2015-10-25 7:17 AM, Alex Beauroy wrote: On 18/10/2015 18:59, Chris Ilias wrote: On 2015-10-17 5:55 PM, Alex Beauroy wrote: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in "Mail settings" Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder Best Regards First try something simple, like repairing the Sent folder. 1. Right-click on the folder and select "Properties". 2. Click on [Repair Folder]. Thanks a lot Chris!!! I've tried this several times but I still can get the latest sent e-mails. And this is going on since Oct the 10th I've also tried to uninstall and re-install SeaMonkey but it still doesn't work. Make sure View-->Messages and View-->Threads are both set to All. Yeah !!! Got it working now!!! Thanks a lot Chris!!! But I just realize that the "View" box where you can sometime put these choices like "unread", or select "Tags" was set with the value : "Personal" That is the first time that I've seen this kind of possible choice. After setting the "View" with ALL I got it working. And the funny thing is that there is not anymore "Personal" displayed as a choice.. Just "All"; "Unread";and several choices of "Custom views". How did this happen, I can't say. It took me 16 days to work this out. Thanks a lot Chris Best Regards @lex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder
On 18/10/2015 18:59, Chris Ilias wrote: On 2015-10-17 5:55 PM, Alex Beauroy wrote: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in "Mail settings" Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder Best Regards First try something simple, like repairing the Sent folder. 1. Right-click on the folder and select "Properties". 2. Click on [Repair Folder]. Thanks a lot Chris!!! I've tried this several times but I still can get the latest sent e-mails. And this is going on since Oct the 10th I've also tried to uninstall and re-install SeaMonkey but it still doesn't work. Let me know what you think Best Regards @lex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder
Alex Beauroy wrote: On 18/10/2015 15:46, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Alex Beauroy wrote: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in "Mail settings" Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder Best Regards @lex Look under "Server Settings" for that account and under "Local directory" will give to the local path to the containing directory of that mail account. Example: C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL] AppData is hidden by default so unless you have set in Explorer you will not be able to see this path, and may have to specify the complete path or use the ENV var %APPDATA% %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL] In that folder there should be a "Sent" file which is the account's mbox Sent folder %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]\Sent Thanks for your quick answer. After looking from the "server settings" inside the "Local Directory" I have not been able to find "Sent Folder". May be this folder must be a hided file, or do I have to create it Let me know what you think You should not have to. It is auto-generated after send an email on that account *IF* in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" you have "When sending messages:" enabled and the Sent folder set to that account. See my example <http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/sent> -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder
On 18/10/2015 15:46, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Alex Beauroy wrote: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in "Mail settings" Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder Best Regards @lex Look under "Server Settings" for that account and under "Local directory" will give to the local path to the containing directory of that mail account. Example: C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL] AppData is hidden by default so unless you have set in Explorer you will not be able to see this path, and may have to specify the complete path or use the ENV var %APPDATA% %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL] In that folder there should be a "Sent" file which is the account's mbox Sent folder %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]\Sent Thanks for your quick answer. After looking from the "server settings" inside the "Local Directory" I have not been able to find "Sent Folder". May be this folder must be a hided file, or do I have to create it Let me know what you think Best Regards @lex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder
On 25/10/2015 20:51, Chris Ilias wrote: On 2015-10-25 7:17 AM, Alex Beauroy wrote: On 18/10/2015 18:59, Chris Ilias wrote: On 2015-10-17 5:55 PM, Alex Beauroy wrote: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in "Mail settings" Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder Best Regards First try something simple, like repairing the Sent folder. 1. Right-click on the folder and select "Properties". 2. Click on [Repair Folder]. Thanks a lot Chris!!! I've tried this several times but I still can get the latest sent e-mails. And this is going on since Oct the 10th I've also tried to uninstall and re-install SeaMonkey but it still doesn't work. Make sure View-->Messages and View-->Threads are both set to All. Yeah !!! Got it working now!!! Thanks a lot Chris!!! But I just realize that the "View" box where you can sometime put these choices like "unread", or select "Tags" was set with the value : "Personal" That is the first time that I've seen this kind of possible choice. After setting the "View" with ALL I got it working. And the funny thing is that there is not anymore "Personal" displayed as a choice.. Just "All"; "Unread";and several choices of "Custom views". How did this happen, I can't say. It took me 16 days to work this out. Thanks a lot Chris Best Regards @lex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder
On 25/10/2015 14:20, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Alex Beauroy wrote: On 18/10/2015 15:46, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Alex Beauroy wrote: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in "Mail settings" Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder Best Regards @lex Look under "Server Settings" for that account and under "Local directory" will give to the local path to the containing directory of that mail account. Example: C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL] AppData is hidden by default so unless you have set in Explorer you will not be able to see this path, and may have to specify the complete path or use the ENV var %APPDATA% %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL] In that folder there should be a "Sent" file which is the account's mbox Sent folder %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]\Sent Thanks for your quick answer. After looking from the "server settings" inside the "Local Directory" I have not been able to find "Sent Folder". May be this folder must be a hided file, or do I have to create it Let me know what you think You should not have to. It is auto-generated after send an email on that account *IF* in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" you have "When sending messages:" enabled and the Sent folder set to that account. See my example <http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/sent> Thanks Jonathan, I understand , and in my "Mail & Newsgroup Accounts settings" I have checked the option : "Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder". But since Oct the 10th it had stopped working. I had in mind that other SeaMonkey users had experienced this and that the developers had a solution for this. So to summarize my problem it have been working perfectly as you describe it : "It is auto-generated after send an email on that > account *IF* in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" you have "When > sending messages:" enabled and the Sent folder set to that account. " but the very last e-mail sent in this folder is dated 10/10/2015. I can manage with that as I am now manually "BCC:" my e-mails to another e-mail address but I think that it is better to improve the quality of SeaMonkey by warning the users and developers. Best Regards @lex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder
Alex Beauroy wrote: On 25/10/2015 14:20, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Alex Beauroy wrote: On 18/10/2015 15:46, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Alex Beauroy wrote: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in "Mail settings" Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder Best Regards @lex Look under "Server Settings" for that account and under "Local directory" will give to the local path to the containing directory of that mail account. Example: C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL] AppData is hidden by default so unless you have set in Explorer you will not be able to see this path, and may have to specify the complete path or use the ENV var %APPDATA% %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL] In that folder there should be a "Sent" file which is the account's mbox Sent folder %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]\Sent Thanks for your quick answer. After looking from the "server settings" inside the "Local Directory" I have not been able to find "Sent Folder". May be this folder must be a hided file, or do I have to create it Let me know what you think You should not have to. It is auto-generated after send an email on that account *IF* in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" you have "When sending messages:" enabled and the Sent folder set to that account. See my example <http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/sent> Thanks Jonathan, I understand , and in my "Mail & Newsgroup Accounts settings" I have checked the option : "Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder". But since Oct the 10th it had stopped working. I had in mind that other SeaMonkey users had experienced this and that the developers had a solution for this. So to summarize my problem it have been working perfectly as you describe it : "It is auto-generated after send an email on that > account *IF* in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" you have "When > sending messages:" enabled and the Sent folder set to that account. " but the very last e-mail sent in this folder is dated 10/10/2015. I can manage with that as I am now manually "BCC:" my e-mails to another e-mail address but I think that it is better to improve the quality of SeaMonkey by warning the users and developers. It looks like you may have had a filesystem error external to SM. If the mbox file 'Sent' in that mail account's physical directory location gets deleted or corrupted this could account for you trouble. This is where *backups* are essential. You could have used a backup from *before* 10/10/2015, find the specified 'Sent' file and copy it to that location and name something like 'SentBackup' so as not to overwrite the existing 'Sent' file. Of course do this without SeaMonkey running. Then start SeaMonkey and you will now see a new "folder" in that account named 'SentBackup' which would have all your old sent messages. Then you could drag and drop in SeaMonkey the messages from 'SentBackup' to 'Sent' which would reconstruct it. Once restored delete 'SentBackup'. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder
Alex Beauroy wrote: On 18/10/2015 15:46, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Alex Beauroy wrote: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in "Mail settings" Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder Best Regards @lex Look under "Server Settings" for that account and under "Local directory" will give to the local path to the containing directory of that mail account. Example: C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL] AppData is hidden by default so unless you have set in Explorer you will not be able to see this path, and may have to specify the complete path or use the ENV var %APPDATA% %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL] In that folder there should be a "Sent" file which is the account's mbox Sent folder %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]\Sent Thanks for your quick answer. After looking from the "server settings" inside the "Local Directory" I have not been able to find "Sent Folder". May be this folder must be a hided file, or do I have to create it Let me know what you think Best Regards @lex The profile is a hidden directory, so you have to prevent the hiding of files to see anything in it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder
On 2015-10-25 7:17 AM, Alex Beauroy wrote: On 18/10/2015 18:59, Chris Ilias wrote: On 2015-10-17 5:55 PM, Alex Beauroy wrote: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in "Mail settings" Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder Best Regards First try something simple, like repairing the Sent folder. 1. Right-click on the folder and select "Properties". 2. Click on [Repair Folder]. Thanks a lot Chris!!! I've tried this several times but I still can get the latest sent e-mails. And this is going on since Oct the 10th I've also tried to uninstall and re-install SeaMonkey but it still doesn't work. Make sure View-->Messages and View-->Threads are both set to All. -- Chris Ilias <http://ilias.ca> Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder
Alex Beauroy wrote: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in "Mail settings" Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder Best Regards @lex Look under "Server Settings" for that account and under "Local directory" will give to the local path to the containing directory of that mail account. Example: C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL] AppData is hidden by default so unless you have set in Explorer you will not be able to see this path, and may have to specify the complete path or use the ENV var %APPDATA% %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL] In that folder there should be a "Sent" file which is the account's mbox Sent folder %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]\Sent -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder
On 2015-10-17 5:55 PM, Alex Beauroy wrote: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in "Mail settings" Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder Best Regards First try something simple, like repairing the Sent folder. 1. Right-click on the folder and select "Properties". 2. Click on [Repair Folder]. -- Chris Ilias <http://ilias.ca> Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder
Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in "Mail settings" Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder Best Regards @lex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: There will not be a Sent folder until you send a message from that account. Or if you care, you can create one manually just the same way as you would create any other folder. But since it's a reserved name, SeaMonkey will treat it differently. You can create folders named Trash, Outbox, Unsent Messages, etc. the same way. It's not rocket science. But it is a waste of time because SM will create them as needed without human intervention. It should be noted that these first level folders are not filesystem DIRs but just a plain text files with no MS-style file extension. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder
Jonathan N. Little wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: There will not be a Sent folder until you send a message from that account. Or if you care, you can create one manually just the same way as you would create any other folder. But since it's a reserved name, SeaMonkey will treat it differently. You can create folders named Trash, Outbox, Unsent Messages, etc. the same way. It's not rocket science. But it is a waste of time because SM will create them as needed without human intervention. It should be noted that these first level folders are not filesystem DIRs but just a plain text files with no MS-style file extension. To start, yes. But if the user later creates subdirectories under them, SM changes the file structure appropriately. For example, I have an archive under my Sent folder: Sent --2014 --2013 ... and therefore Sent is actually a directory called \Sent.sbd in the OS. The same thing happens if you drag a folder to Trash or ask SeaMonkey to delete a folder. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: There will not be a Sent folder until you send a message from that account. Or if you care, you can create one manually just the same way as you would create any other folder. But since it's a reserved name, SeaMonkey will treat it differently. You can create folders named Trash, Outbox, Unsent Messages, etc. the same way. It's not rocket science. But it is a waste of time because SM will create them as needed without human intervention. It should be noted that these first level folders are not filesystem DIRs but just a plain text files with no MS-style file extension. To start, yes. But if the user later creates subdirectories under them, SM changes the file structure appropriately. For example, I have an archive under my Sent folder: Sent --2014 --2013 ... and therefore Sent is actually a directory called \Sent.sbd in the OS. The same thing happens if you drag a folder to Trash or ask SeaMonkey to delete a folder. Yes, I guess I wasn't clear enough, should have said 'a first level folders that contain no child folders'. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder
Jonathan N. Little wrote: There will not be a Sent folder until you send a message from that account. Or if you care, you can create one manually just the same way as you would create any other folder. But since it's a reserved name, SeaMonkey will treat it differently. You can create folders named Trash, Outbox, Unsent Messages, etc. the same way. It's not rocket science. But it is a waste of time because SM will create them as needed without human intervention. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder
Bo1953 wrote: Hello all, I have a challenge where the 'Sent' folder does NOT appear for several email accounts in SM 2.32.1 using W 8.1. What have I done incorrectly for this to happen? Shall I reinstall SM 2.32.1? TIA bo1953 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com Click on the account, select settings for this account, select copies and folders. It should indicate your settings for copy of sent message. -- GW Ross An eye for an eye will make the whole world go blind. - Mahatma Gandhi ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder
On 3/11/2015 1:43 PM, Bo1953 wrote: Hello all, I have a challenge where the 'Sent' folder does NOT appear for several email accounts in SM 2.32.1 using W 8.1. What have I done incorrectly for this to happen? Shall I reinstall SM 2.32.1? TIA bo1953 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com IMAP? Are you subscribed to that folder? May need to re-subscribe to it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder
Bo1953 wrote: On 11-Mar-15 14:03, hawker wrote: On 3/11/2015 1:43 PM, Bo1953 wrote: Hello all, I have a challenge where the 'Sent' folder does NOT appear for several email accounts in SM 2.32.1 using W 8.1. What have I done incorrectly for this to happen? Shall I reinstall SM 2.32.1? TIA bo1953 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com IMAP? Are you subscribed to that folder? May need to re-subscribe to it. Sorry hawker, It is pop. There will not be a Sent folder until you send a message from that account. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder
Bo1953 wrote: Hello all, I have a challenge where the 'Sent' folder does NOT appear for several email accounts in SM 2.32.1 using W 8.1. What have I done incorrectly for this to happen? Look in your account settings and see where you have designated Sent messages to be stored. It will be under Copies Folders. You may have selected a different account, or Local Folders, for your Sent messages. Shall I reinstall SM 2.32.1? No. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com Please see your Avast settings to remove that spam message. Thanks. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder
On 11-Mar-15 14:03, hawker wrote: On 3/11/2015 1:43 PM, Bo1953 wrote: Hello all, I have a challenge where the 'Sent' folder does NOT appear for several email accounts in SM 2.32.1 using W 8.1. What have I done incorrectly for this to happen? Shall I reinstall SM 2.32.1? TIA bo1953 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com IMAP? Are you subscribed to that folder? May need to re-subscribe to it. Sorry hawker, It is pop. SS --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: attachments in the Sent Folder (waste of space)
cmcadams wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: for a long time, I have tried to remember, that, I should detach/delete pictures sent to me as attachments to messages. But, it just dawned on me that every time I have SENT a picture, as an attachment, that picture is saved in my Sent Folder. Is there a setting to make that not permanent? My sent folder goes back ten years, at least. GW (on Mac, with SM 2.34a1) Only way I know is to manually bring up the message, right click on the attachment and click Delete. No general settings that I'm aware of. It seems like a design flaw. the pref mail.compose.dont_attach_source_of_local_network_links shows that someone thought about this, but that pref doesn't stop files from being stored internally. IDK /what/ it does. But it doesn't stop this behavior (topic). GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: attachments in the Sent Folder (waste of space)
Geoff Welsh wrote: for a long time, I have tried to remember, that, I should detach/delete pictures sent to me as attachments to messages. But, it just dawned on me that every time I have SENT a picture, as an attachment, that picture is saved in my Sent Folder. Is there a setting to make that not permanent? My sent folder goes back ten years, at least. GW (on Mac, with SM 2.34a1) Only way I know is to manually bring up the message, right click on the attachment and click Delete. No general settings that I'm aware of. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
attachments in the Sent Folder (waste of space)
for a long time, I have tried to remember, that, I should detach/delete pictures sent to me as attachments to messages. But, it just dawned on me that every time I have SENT a picture, as an attachment, that picture is saved in my Sent Folder. Is there a setting to make that not permanent? My sent folder goes back ten years, at least. GW (on Mac, with SM 2.34a1) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Mail No Longer Saved in Sent Folder
From 5:06 pm yesterday until 5:10 today, Seamonkey did not log sent mail. Now, all of a sudden it is working again. Any email sent in that 24 hour period is still vanished unless I seagh on the subject. This is totally weird! Lenora On Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:31:06 PM UTC-8, Lenora Porcella wrote: Yesterday I noticed that mail being sent is not being kept in the SENT mail. It is not registered, as if it never happened. I also notice that I am not receiving all mail sent by me to me, as a test, so I'm not sure I'm receiving everything addressed to me. I tried deleteing the SENT.MSF file, but it rebuilds the same way, with nothing registered after 5:00 last night. I don't know what to try now. Any suggestions? I'm using WinXP, service pack 3 and ATT is my ISP. Thanks! Lenora ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [triage] Bug 783352 - Email rejected by Yahoo as abuse it is written to Sent Folder but is not sent; message has to be recomposed
I am having the same problem but not with all my email accounts. I can post to one that is from my RoadRunner Account to Yahoo Groups but cannot post from my Gmail accounts (through SeaMonkey mail) to a Yahoo Group. Was there any resolution on this? On Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:30:47 PM UTC-6, NoOp wrote: On 08/17/2012 09:35 PM, Philip Chee wrote: Anyone else experience this problem? Phil Don't know... what's the link to the bug report? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [triage] Bug 783352 - Email rejected by Yahoo as abuse it is written to Sent Folder but is not sent; message has to be recomposed
norri...@gmail.com wrote: I am having the same problem but not with all my email accounts. I can post to one that is from my RoadRunner Account to Yahoo Groups but cannot post from my Gmail accounts (through SeaMonkey mail) to a Yahoo Group. Was there any resolution on this? By post do mean sent email? What do you enter for your smtp server? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [triage] Bug 783352 - Email rejected by Yahoo as abuse it is written to Sent Folder but is not sent; message has to be recomposed
Philip Chee wrote: Anyone else experience this problem? Phil I just tried it with the bug page, and sent from my Yahoo account to my AIM account without a problem. Then I reset the about:config setting I changed for the SeaMonkey not liked by Intel problem, and tried another page, again with no problem. Sent messages are not showing up in my Yahoo sent folder. But I'm not a Windows user so this probably doesn't help. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [triage] Bug 783352 - Email rejected by Yahoo as abuse it is written to Sent Folder but is not sent; message has to be recomposed
On 08/17/2012 09:35 PM, Philip Chee wrote: Anyone else experience this problem? Phil Don't know... what's the link to the bug report? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [triage] Bug 783352 - Email rejected by Yahoo as abuse it is written to Sent Folder but is not sent; message has to be recomposed
NoOp wrote: On 08/17/2012 09:35 PM, Philip Chee wrote: Anyone else experience this problem? Phil Don't know... what's the link to the bug report? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783352 -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Don't use a big word where a diminutive one will suffice. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[triage] Bug 783352 - Email rejected by Yahoo as abuse it is written to Sent Folder but is not sent; message has to be recomposed
Anyone else experience this problem? Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey 2.5 : There was an error copying to the Sent folder : retry ? now dysfunctional
In earlier versions, it was by no means unusual to receive a warning message after a message had been sent saying : There was an error copying the message to the Sent folder : retry ? and if one re-tried, the copy would sometimes succeed. With Seamonkey 2.5, answering Yes to Retry ? results in no further attempt, no perceivable further action, and one is left in the Compose window with a dysfunctional Send button. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.5 : There was an error copying to the Sent folder : retry ? now dysfunctional
Philip TAYLOR: With Seamonkey 2.5, answering Yes to Retry ? results in no further attempt, no perceivable further action, and one is left in the Compose window with a dysfunctional Send button. Havent't seen that in my 2.8a1. And the message 'There as an error copying...' i haven't seen in a very long time. Windows? AddOns? Anti-Virus? Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.5 : There was an error copying to the Sent folder : retry ? now dysfunctional
Hartmut Figge wrote: Philip TAYLOR: With Seamonkey 2.5, answering Yes to Retry ? results in no further attempt, no perceivable further action, and one is left in the Compose window with a dysfunctional Send button. Havent't seen that in my 2.8a1. And the message 'There as an error copying...' i haven't seen in a very long time. Windows? AddOns? Anti-Virus? I see it very regularly, if my system is busy doing many things (as it currently is : 162Gb backup to USB 2.0 drive). Add-ons almost non-existent : Adblock, Flashget. Anti-virus : ESET NOD32, MalwareBytes Anti-Malware. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.5 : There was an error copying to the Sent folder : retry ? now dysfunctional
Hartmut Figge wrote: Havent't seen that in my 2.8a1. And the message 'There as an error copying...' i haven't seen in a very long time. Windows? AddOns? Anti-Virus? I see it very regularly, if my system is busy doing many things (as it currently is : 162Gb backup to USB 2.0 drive). Add-ons almost non-existent : Adblock, Flashget. Anti-virus : ESET NOD32, MalwareBytes Anti-Malware. Incidentally, the exact text is not as reported; it is -- There was an error saving the message to Sent Mail. Retry? replicated by interrupting the Saving message ... dialogue for this message, but then using Cancel rather than Yes in answer to Retry? in order to regain control. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder Problem
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Re: Some problems regarding SENT folder in 2.0.11
Zeb Carter wrote: I provide tech support to a customer/friend of mine. He called me about a problem he was having with the SENT folder under his profile. Actually, there are 4 issues happening: 1) On entry to the mail/news side, he gets a notification saying summary file being rebuilt for this folder 2) Sent messages appear in the folder but on exiting the program, and going back in, the message no longer appears. Have your friend select his Mail account's Sent folder then have a look at View - Messages and View - Threads. What has he got them set to?? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Some problems regarding SENT folder in 2.0.11
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Zeb Carter wrote: I provide tech support to a customer/friend of mine. He called me about a problem he was having with the SENT folder under his profile. Actually, there are 4 issues happening: 1) On entry to the mail/news side, he gets a notification saying summary file being rebuilt for this folder 2) Sent messages appear in the folder but on exiting the program, and going back in, the message no longer appears. 3) Compacting the folder does not seem to work (file size is roughly 4GB). I think that that (4GB) may be a magic number. Especially if it's a Windows PC and the drive is formatted FAT32. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Photons have mass? I didn't even know they were Catholic. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Some problems regarding SENT folder in 2.0.11
Ed Mullen wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Zeb Carter wrote: I provide tech support to a customer/friend of mine. He called me about a problem he was having with the SENT folder under his profile. Actually, there are 4 issues happening: 1) On entry to the mail/news side, he gets a notification saying summary file being rebuilt for this folder 2) Sent messages appear in the folder but on exiting the program, and going back in, the message no longer appears. 3) Compacting the folder does not seem to work (file size is roughly 4GB). I think that that (4GB) may be a magic number. Especially if it's a Windows PC and the drive is formatted FAT32. Machine in question is a Windows 7 machine - defintely NTFS. Per the original msg, I moved the messages from the default SENT folder to the one under LOCAL folders, pointed the system to that folder and the sent messages go there as they should. With an empty SENT folder under the default account, sent messages appear and then disappear after closing Seamonkey and reopening SM. Very strange behavior! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Some problems regarding SENT folder in 2.0.11
Zeb Carter wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Zeb Carter wrote: I provide tech support to a customer/friend of mine. He called me about a problem he was having with the SENT folder under his profile. Actually, there are 4 issues happening: 1) On entry to the mail/news side, he gets a notification saying summary file being rebuilt for this folder 2) Sent messages appear in the folder but on exiting the program, and going back in, the message no longer appears. 3) Compacting the folder does not seem to work (file size is roughly 4GB). I think that that (4GB) may be a magic number. Especially if it's a Windows PC and the drive is formatted FAT32. Machine in question is a Windows 7 machine - defintely NTFS. Per the original msg, I moved the messages from the default SENT folder to the one under LOCAL folders, pointed the system to that folder and the sent messages go there as they should. With an empty SENT folder under the default account, sent messages appear and then disappear after closing Seamonkey and reopening SM. Very strange behavior! So I take it that you decided not to split the original SENT folder as I suggested, and are satisfied with getting any newly sent messages copied/saved in the new folder under LOCAL folders? (Y/N)? Also just as a double check on understanding what you write: By empty SENT folder under the default account, you do mean that the sent file when you look at it on the disk is empty, i.e. has a 0 size, and not just that in SM it reports 0 messages in the folders list? (Y/N)? It would seem though, that since you have saved all the old sent messages into that folder under LOCAL, you should now be free to delete the old sent and the sent.msf files on disk and let SM create completely fresh and clean ones. You should then be able to point SM to use the fresh folders. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Some problems regarding SENT folder in 2.0.11
I provide tech support to a customer/friend of mine. He called me about a problem he was having with the SENT folder under his profile. Actually, there are 4 issues happening: 1) On entry to the mail/news side, he gets a notification saying summary file being rebuilt for this folder 2) Sent messages appear in the folder but on exiting the program, and going back in, the message no longer appears. 3) Compacting the folder does not seem to work (file size is roughly 4GB). 4) Cannot delete or rename the folder in an effort to recreate it. What I have tried - deleting the .msf for that folder (still does a rebuild on reentry to program after being closed/exited). I do have a work around in place using a SENT folder as the repository under LOCAL FOLDERS. Newly sent messages do stay put and it did compact properly but I did not check final file size. Any ideas or suggestions on a fix or wait for 2.0.12 for a fix? Thanks in advance!! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Some problems regarding SENT folder in 2.0.11
Zeb Carter wrote: I provide tech support to a customer/friend of mine. He called me about a problem he was having with the SENT folder under his profile. Actually, there are 4 issues happening: 1) On entry to the mail/news side, he gets a notification saying summary file being rebuilt for this folder 2) Sent messages appear in the folder but on exiting the program, and going back in, the message no longer appears. 3) Compacting the folder does not seem to work (file size is roughly 4GB). I think that that (4GB) may be a magic number. I suggest that you split the folder into at least 2 pieces something like: 'sent-pre-yymmdd' and 'sent'. You may be able to do this within SM by creating a 'sent-pre-yymmdd', moving the appropriate messages from 'sent' into it, and then compressing 'sent' 4) Cannot delete or rename the folder in an effort to recreate it. What I have tried - deleting the .msf for that folder (still does a rebuild on reentry to program after being closed/exited). I do have a work around in place using a SENT folder as the repository under LOCAL FOLDERS. Newly sent messages do stay put and it did compact properly but I did not check final file size. Any ideas or suggestions on a fix or wait for 2.0.12 for a fix? Thanks in advance!! Hope that helps. Let me know. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: recreate address book from sent folder?
Traveller wrote: On 13/10/2010 5:40, Rick Merrill wrote: Nelson Bolyard wrote: I'm asking this question in both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird support groups because I figure the answer is likely the same for either product. My aged aunt lost her address book file in her Mac SeaMonkey profile. But her sent folder is intact, with all the emails she's sent in the last decade. Is there any way to populate a new fresh address book using the To and CC addresses in the emails in her sent folder? I could extract all the To and CC addresses from the folder (with grep). If I did that, and had a plain text file of email addresses, would there be a way to repopulate her address book from that file of email addresses? Can you drag n drop from Collected Addresses to Personal Addresses? Yes. My question was addressed to the OP to see if this would address his aunt's need. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: recreate address book from sent folder?
*-* On Tue, 12 Oct 2010, at 13:40:36 -0700, *-* In Article c8ydncsesovwwinrnz2dnuvz_r2dn...@mozilla.org, *-* Nelson Bolyard wrote *-* About recreate address book from sent folder? I'm asking this question in both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird support groups because I figure the answer is likely the same for either product. My aged aunt lost her address book file in her Mac SeaMonkey profile. But her sent folder is intact, with all the emails she's sent in the last decade. Is there any way to populate a new fresh address book using the To and CC addresses in the emails in her sent folder? For Thunderbird there is the EMail Address Crawler extension (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/9995/), but there doesn't appear to be anything similar for SeaMonkey. :-( As a workaround, you could temporarily install Thunderbird, install the Crawler extension and let it do its thing in her Sent folder, and then uninstall the extension and Thunderbird. If you do that, I would recommend using TB2 rather than TB3. Some of the reviews of the extension indicate that it doesn't work with (at least) some versions of TB3, and for a temporary installation you don't need that added hassle/uncertainty. Ken Whiton -- FIDO: 1:132/152 InterNet: kenwhi...@surfglobal.net.inval (remove the obvious to reply) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: recreate address book from sent folder?
On 13/10/2010 10:17, Ken Whiton wrote: *-* On Tue, 12 Oct 2010, at 13:40:36 -0700, *-* In Articlec8ydncsesovwwinrnz2dnuvz_r2dn...@mozilla.org, *-* Nelson Bolyard wrote *-* About recreate address book from sent folder? I'm asking this question in both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird support groups because I figure the answer is likely the same for either product. My aged aunt lost her address book file in her Mac SeaMonkey profile. But her sent folder is intact, with all the emails she's sent in the last decade. Is there any way to populate a new fresh address book using the To and CC addresses in the emails in her sent folder? For Thunderbird there is the EMail Address Crawler extension (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/9995/), but there doesn't appear to be anything similar for SeaMonkey. :-( I use the EMail Address Crawler extension, but the results have to be taken with caution. I tried it several times with a single mail; this never worked and - but this is not the problem of the poster. With several mails it worked but I did not do a thorough manually comparing test mails with crawled results. In any cause, unfortunately the extension owner - r the person that adapted the extension to a last version of TB - never answered my mails. - ftr ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: recreate address book from sent folder?
Nelson Bolyard wrote: I'm asking this question in both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird support groups because I figure the answer is likely the same for either product. My aged aunt lost her address book file in her Mac SeaMonkey profile. But her sent folder is intact, with all the emails she's sent in the last decade. Is there any way to populate a new fresh address book using the To and CC addresses in the emails in her sent folder? I could extract all the To and CC addresses from the folder (with grep). If I did that, and had a plain text file of email addresses, would there be a way to repopulate her address book from that file of email addresses? Can you drag n drop from Collected Addresses to Personal Addresses? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: recreate address book from sent folder?
On 13/10/2010 5:40, Rick Merrill wrote: Nelson Bolyard wrote: I'm asking this question in both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird support groups because I figure the answer is likely the same for either product. My aged aunt lost her address book file in her Mac SeaMonkey profile. But her sent folder is intact, with all the emails she's sent in the last decade. Is there any way to populate a new fresh address book using the To and CC addresses in the emails in her sent folder? I could extract all the To and CC addresses from the folder (with grep). If I did that, and had a plain text file of email addresses, would there be a way to repopulate her address book from that file of email addresses? Can you drag n drop from Collected Addresses to Personal Addresses? Yes. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
recreate address book from sent folder?
I'm asking this question in both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird support groups because I figure the answer is likely the same for either product. My aged aunt lost her address book file in her Mac SeaMonkey profile. But her sent folder is intact, with all the emails she's sent in the last decade. Is there any way to populate a new fresh address book using the To and CC addresses in the emails in her sent folder? I could extract all the To and CC addresses from the folder (with grep). If I did that, and had a plain text file of email addresses, would there be a way to repopulate her address book from that file of email addresses? -- /Nelson Bolyard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: recreate address book from sent folder?
On 10/12/2010 1:40 PM On a whim, Nelson Bolyard pounded out on the keyboard I'm asking this question in both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird support groups because I figure the answer is likely the same for either product. My aged aunt lost her address book file in her Mac SeaMonkey profile. But her sent folder is intact, with all the emails she's sent in the last decade. Is there any way to populate a new fresh address book using the To and CC addresses in the emails in her sent folder? I could extract all the To and CC addresses from the folder (with grep). If I did that, and had a plain text file of email addresses, would there be a way to repopulate her address book from that file of email addresses? Hi Nelson, Here is a link that might help recover the profile of the AB that was lost: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Talk:Recovering_a_missing_profile A similar question was asked recently regarding exporting addresses in email. Here is my answer to them: As far as I know, the only way would be to open the email and press Ctrl-U to view the source, then copy the email addresses that way. You can export your current address book as a CSV and open it to view how it's laid out. Excel will place each field in a column, but a plain text editor will use commas for each field. You can use whichever you're more comfortable with and then import the file into your AB when done. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: recreate address book from sent folder?
Nelson Bolyard wrote: I'm asking this question in both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird support groups because I figure the answer is likely the same for either product. My aged aunt lost her address book file in her Mac SeaMonkey profile. But her sent folder is intact, with all the emails she's sent in the last decade. Is there any way to populate a new fresh address book using the To and CC addresses in the emails in her sent folder? I could extract all the To and CC addresses from the folder (with grep). If I did that, and had a plain text file of email addresses, would there be a way to repopulate her address book from that file of email addresses? Yes, at least for SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under WinXP Pro. I had seen the answer to this somewhere, but couldn't remember details. So a little experimentation filled in blanks - knowing a solution is possible helps ;) Under Window - Address Book - Tools - Import are a list of choices. [Comma or tab delimited are available] I went to Window - Address Book - Tools - Export and exported one of my address books and found that the 1st gives field titles thus telling you what needs to go where. HTH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: recreate address book from sent folder?
I could extract all the To and CC addresses from the folder (with grep). If I did that, and had a plain text file of email addresses, would there be a way to repopulate her address book from that file of email addresses? This is a programming issue that can be attacked in a number of different ways... your mention of grep indicates some tech skills The first thing that comes to my mind is to use a text editor with a good macro utility... ...for example using http://textpad.com , I would; open the sent file then build a macro that; search for @ search for ) begin marking (shift) search backwards for ( copy switch window (to a collection file) paste type carriage return switch back (note, other characters than ( might be better markers) repeat to end of file... Then sort the lines alphabetically and you would be in a good position to delete large blocks such as her address and lines that didn't begin with ( etc, etc... Then either de-dupe or manually cut duplicate lines. ...above is theory, untested, but have done many similar jobs using textpad macros. Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: recreate address book from sent folder?
Nelson Bolyard wrote: I'm asking this question in both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird support groups because I figure the answer is likely the same for either product. My aged aunt lost her address book file in her Mac SeaMonkey profile. But her sent folder is intact, with all the emails she's sent in the last decade. Is there any way to populate a new fresh address book using the To and CC addresses in the emails in her sent folder? I could extract all the To and CC addresses from the folder (with grep). If I did that, and had a plain text file of email addresses, would there be a way to repopulate her address book from that file of email addresses? The SENT file is a plain text file (at least on Linux) and can be parsed with perl to extract the name and email address. These can be written in a CSV file which can be reloaded. If you want to do the work you can set the prefers to receive mail as field for any mail she sent in HTML. For sanity' sake, teach her about backups! Lots of other stuff will be lost, addresses for Christmas cards, kid's names, most people keep a lot of odd info in that address book. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: recreate address book from sent folder?
On 10/12/2010 02:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: Nelson Bolyard wrote: I'm asking this question in both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird support groups because I figure the answer is likely the same for either product. My aged aunt lost her address book file in her Mac SeaMonkey profile. But her sent folder is intact, with all the emails she's sent in the last decade. Is there any way to populate a new fresh address book using the To and CC addresses in the emails in her sent folder? I could extract all the To and CC addresses from the folder (with grep). If I did that, and had a plain text file of email addresses, would there be a way to repopulate her address book from that file of email addresses? Yes, at least for SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under WinXP Pro. I had seen the answer to this somewhere, but couldn't remember details. So a little experimentation filled in blanks - knowing a solution is possible helps ;) Under Window - Address Book - Tools - Import are a list of choices. [Comma or tab delimited are available] I went to Window - Address Book - Tools - Export and exported one of my address books and found that the 1st gives field titles thus telling you what needs to go where. HTH One way to eliminate wading through a multimeg Sent or Inbox file would be to set a message filter filter on a generic '@' and just set it to tag the message. Then run the filter on the existing inbox. The filterlog.html file will have information regarding the filter results have something along the lines of: Applied filter quot;Bugsquot; to message from Senders Name lt;redac...@bugs.launchpad.netgt; Thee above is of course from my filter list, but you can see the delimiters for grep extraction. Or, just copy paste the html file into OpenOffice.org/LibO Calc and it will import with options to delimit. You can then construct a cvs file that can be imported back into addressbook. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder Doesn't Work
Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 10:57:02 -0400, Phillip Jones wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:06:59 -0400, Phillip Jones wrote: two extensions were found as a temporary fix. and promise (maybe hollow) that a form of it would return in 2.1. of course knowing how the developers do things at Mozilla. Probably was said just get us off their backs until the subject was forgotten. Please refrain from unwarranted cynicism (warranted cynicism is of course another matter). Work in progress: http://home.kairo.at/blog/2010-07/data_manager_1_0 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=569341 Phil Well let us just say then I'll believe it when I see it. How's that? So. What's stopping you from downloading v1.0 and installing it into SeaMonkey 2.1a2 and taking it for a test drive? It contains the same code that is currently in the process of being reviewed (we have very picky reviewers). You honestly seem to the only developer that seems to listen to Users, rather than only to other developers. And for that I applaud you sir. I'm not a SeaMonkey developer! I'm just a rabble-rousing extension author. I keep telling KaiRo that but he doesn't believe me Phil Phil, I would have thought it would be more in the sense of this thread, if you had typed but he doesn't *hear* me. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder Doesn't Work
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 10:57:02 -0400, Phillip Jones wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:06:59 -0400, Phillip Jones wrote: two extensions were found as a temporary fix. and promise (maybe hollow) that a form of it would return in 2.1. of course knowing how the developers do things at Mozilla. Probably was said just get us off their backs until the subject was forgotten. Please refrain from unwarranted cynicism (warranted cynicism is of course another matter). Work in progress: http://home.kairo.at/blog/2010-07/data_manager_1_0 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=569341 Phil Well let us just say then I'll believe it when I see it. How's that? So. What's stopping you from downloading v1.0 and installing it into SeaMonkey 2.1a2 and taking it for a test drive? It contains the same code that is currently in the process of being reviewed (we have very picky reviewers). You honestly seem to the only developer that seems to listen to Users, rather than only to other developers. And for that I applaud you sir. I'm not a SeaMonkey developer! I'm just a rabble-rousing extension author. I keep telling KaiRo that but he doesn't believe me Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder Doesn't Work
Philip Chee wrote: You honestly seem to the only developer that seems to listen to Users, rather than only to other developers. And for that I applaud you sir. I'm not a SeaMonkey developer! I'm just a rabble-rousing extension author. I keep telling KaiRo that but he doesn't believe me +1 for the doesn't believe part. :-P Greetings, Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder Doesn't Work
Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:06:59 -0400, Phillip Jones wrote: two extensions were found as a temporary fix. and promise (maybe hollow) that a form of it would return in 2.1. of course knowing how the developers do things at Mozilla. Probably was said just get us off their backs until the subject was forgotten. Please refrain from unwarranted cynicism (warranted cynicism is of course another matter). Work in progress: http://home.kairo.at/blog/2010-07/data_manager_1_0 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=569341 Phil Well let us just say then I'll believe it when I see it. How's that? There has been other issues through out Mozilla's / Netscape's History that have been removed never to return, that users thought were valuable, because the developers saw as unnecessary . You honestly seem to the only developer that seems to listen to Users, rather than only to other developers. And for that I applaud you sir. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder Doesn't Work
Daniel wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: I reinstalled 1.1.19 and I had no Sent folder. I created one and when I choose in Settings to have a copy of sent mail go in the folder nothing appears. Also, the setting doesn't stick in Settings either - the checkmark disappears. How can I fix this? Hey, Tom, did you tell SM to send it to the Sent folder on your profile or did you leave it as the Sent folder on the Local Folders?? Why are you just now updating to SM 1.1.19 rather than SM 2.0.5?? Daniel I was able to fix this by deleting reference to local folders in the prefs file. I don't use local folders. I'm using 1.1.19 because I won't switch to 2.x until they add the Forms Manager back. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder Doesn't Work
Tom Pamin wrote: Daniel wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: I reinstalled 1.1.19 and I had no Sent folder. I created one and when I choose in Settings to have a copy of sent mail go in the folder nothing appears. Also, the setting doesn't stick in Settings either - the checkmark disappears. How can I fix this? Hey, Tom, did you tell SM to send it to the Sent folder on your profile or did you leave it as the Sent folder on the Local Folders?? Why are you just now updating to SM 1.1.19 rather than SM 2.0.5?? Daniel I was able to fix this by deleting reference to local folders in the prefs file. I don't use local folders. I'm using 1.1.19 because I won't switch to 2.x until they add the Forms Manager back. Didn't I read here-abouts that Robert and crew had fixed the Forms Manager situationor was it that they had it fixed in the yet to be release SM 2.1?? In any case, there is a workable system...good enough to get Phillip Jones to make the move to SM 2.0.x! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder Doesn't Work
Daniel wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Daniel wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: I reinstalled 1.1.19 and I had no Sent folder. I created one and when I choose in Settings to have a copy of sent mail go in the folder nothing appears. Also, the setting doesn't stick in Settings either - the checkmark disappears. How can I fix this? Hey, Tom, did you tell SM to send it to the Sent folder on your profile or did you leave it as the Sent folder on the Local Folders?? Why are you just now updating to SM 1.1.19 rather than SM 2.0.5?? Daniel I was able to fix this by deleting reference to local folders in the prefs file. I don't use local folders. I'm using 1.1.19 because I won't switch to 2.x until they add the Forms Manager back. Didn't I read here-abouts that Robert and crew had fixed the Forms Manager situationor was it that they had it fixed in the yet to be release SM 2.1?? In any case, there is a workable system...good enough to get Phillip Jones to make the move to SM 2.0.x! I would have made the switch anyway. But as a result of my complaining two extensions were found as a temporary fix. and promise (maybe hollow) that a form of it would return in 2.1. of course knowing how the developers do things at Mozilla. Probably was said just get us off their backs until the subject was forgotten. Its not forgotten. Its supposed to make its return in 2.1. I will be very vocal if it isn't. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder Doesn't Work
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:06:59 -0400, Phillip Jones wrote: two extensions were found as a temporary fix. and promise (maybe hollow) that a form of it would return in 2.1. of course knowing how the developers do things at Mozilla. Probably was said just get us off their backs until the subject was forgotten. Please refrain from unwarranted cynicism (warranted cynicism is of course another matter). Work in progress: http://home.kairo.at/blog/2010-07/data_manager_1_0 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=569341 Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. [ ]Don't be a schmuck... BE A SCHMUCK! * TagZilla 0.066.6 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent Folder Doesn't Work
Tom Pamin wrote: I reinstalled 1.1.19 and I had no Sent folder. I created one and when I choose in Settings to have a copy of sent mail go in the folder nothing appears. Also, the setting doesn't stick in Settings either - the checkmark disappears. How can I fix this? Hey, Tom, did you tell SM to send it to the Sent folder on your profile or did you leave it as the Sent folder on the Local Folders?? Why are you just now updating to SM 1.1.19 rather than SM 2.0.5?? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No Sent Folder
On 09/22/09 09:26, Tom Pamin wrote: I installed Seamonkey on a new PC, and I have no Sent folder in my email. If I create one, sent messages are not saved to it. How can I get Seamonkey to create a Sent folder, and then save messages to it? First, verify the settings on your e-mail account. In Mail Newsgroup Account Settings, look at the 'Copies Folders' page (under your account in the tree view). You should have selected Place a copy in:. Then make sure that under that, you have selected Sent Folder on:, then select your account (or Local Folders as the case may be for your setup). To the best of my recollection, it will create a Sent folder once one is needed, so if these are not set up properly, one won't be created where you expect it. Best Regards, ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No Sent Folder
Mark Hansen wrote: On 09/22/09 09:26, Tom Pamin wrote: I installed Seamonkey on a new PC, and I have no Sent folder in my email. If I create one, sent messages are not saved to it. How can I get Seamonkey to create a Sent folder, and then save messages to it? First, verify the settings on your e-mail account. In Mail Newsgroup Account Settings, look at the 'Copies Folders' page (under your account in the tree view). You should have selected Place a copy in:. Then make sure that under that, you have selected Sent Folder on:, then select your account (or Local Folders as the case may be for your setup). To the best of my recollection, it will create a Sent folder once one is needed, so if these are not set up properly, one won't be created where you expect it. Best Regards, I copied over my Sent folder, and the 2 sent files from my other PC. Now the Sent folder at least shows up in the list. But the messages are still not being saved to it. I find what's happening is the when I go to Copies and Folders, and choose the option to have the messages saved in Sent, the settings don't stay once I click OK. So no folder can be chosen, since the settings don't hold. How do I fix this? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No Sent Folder
On 09/22/09 10:08, Tom Pamin wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 09/22/09 09:26, Tom Pamin wrote: I installed Seamonkey on a new PC, and I have no Sent folder in my email. If I create one, sent messages are not saved to it. How can I get Seamonkey to create a Sent folder, and then save messages to it? First, verify the settings on your e-mail account. In Mail Newsgroup Account Settings, look at the 'Copies Folders' page (under your account in the tree view). You should have selected Place a copy in:. Then make sure that under that, you have selected Sent Folder on:, then select your account (or Local Folders as the case may be for your setup). To the best of my recollection, it will create a Sent folder once one is needed, so if these are not set up properly, one won't be created where you expect it. Best Regards, I copied over my Sent folder, and the 2 sent files from my other PC. Now the Sent folder at least shows up in the list. But the messages are still not being saved to it. I find what's happening is the when I go to Copies and Folders, and choose the option to have the messages saved in Sent, the settings don't stay once I click OK. So no folder can be chosen, since the settings don't hold. How do I fix this? I don't know. My first thought is there is a problem with the profile. To test this, you can create a test profile and see if the settings work when using it. Assuming the test profile works, then you can either migrate all of your stuff to that profile and delete the original, or determine what's wrong with the original and fix it. Perhaps someone else has hit this problem before and knows what to do without having to create a test profile? Best Regards, ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No Sent Folder
Mark Hansen wrote: On 09/22/09 10:08, Tom Pamin wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 09/22/09 09:26, Tom Pamin wrote: I installed Seamonkey on a new PC, and I have no Sent folder in my email. If I create one, sent messages are not saved to it. How can I get Seamonkey to create a Sent folder, and then save messages to it? First, verify the settings on your e-mail account. In Mail Newsgroup Account Settings, look at the 'Copies Folders' page (under your account in the tree view). You should have selected Place a copy in:. Then make sure that under that, you have selected Sent Folder on:, then select your account (or Local Folders as the case may be for your setup). To the best of my recollection, it will create a Sent folder once one is needed, so if these are not set up properly, one won't be created where you expect it. Best Regards, I copied over my Sent folder, and the 2 sent files from my other PC. Now the Sent folder at least shows up in the list. But the messages are still not being saved to it. I find what's happening is the when I go to Copies and Folders, and choose the option to have the messages saved in Sent, the settings don't stay once I click OK. So no folder can be chosen, since the settings don't hold. How do I fix this? I don't know. My first thought is there is a problem with the profile. To test this, you can create a test profile and see if the settings work when using it. Assuming the test profile works, then you can either migrate all of your stuff to that profile and delete the original, or determine what's wrong with the original and fix it. Perhaps someone else has hit this problem before and knows what to do without having to create a test profile? Best Regards, Just solved it. I had previously removed Local Folders, since I have no use for them. They were still listed in my prefs file though. I just deleted those references and replaced it with my email server name, and all is well now. Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Copies of outgoing mail do NOT end up in Sent folder
Keith Whaley wrote: Since I started using SM for email, a LONG time ago, every message I send to someone triggers a copy being placed in my Sent folder. It can be an original message or one in answer to an email. In the last month or so, an occasional message I send does NOT end up in my Sent folder, but a copy DOES show up in my Inbox. Something's amiss. I've noticed, I suppose over the same time frame, messages I've sent to other lists end up being copied to my Inbox, instead of showing up in their own folders. They allow me to move them into their target folders, but they ought to be going there directly, and many of them don't. Can I reset something to make this happen once again? I'm taking a guess here, but I'm thinking that the emails that are being copied to your Inbox are when you Reply or ReplyAll to an existing email that someone sent to you. Would that be true? In the Copies Folders email preferences, where you set up that you would like to have Sent emails put in your 'Sent' folder, there is a checkbox below that 'essentially' says, If the message I'm sending is a reply to someone else's message, put the reply in the folder where the original message resided. Therefore, when you Reply to an email in your Inbox, instead of your message being copied into your Sent folder, it dumps the copy in your Inbox. I personally dislike this feature. It overrides your settings in the Sent preferences above. I think a better function would be to continue to follow the 'Sent' folder rules declared above, but then 'also' place a second copy in your Inbox if that box is checked. That way, you can (1) keep all your Sent emails together when you need to search for what you have sent, and (2) keep all your pertinent replies in line with others comments when you sort by thread (which is good for tracking issues with lots of replies and re-replies). With the current operation, if your searching your 'Sent' folder months later if you sent something out, are you going to remember that it was a reply and that it's stored in your Inbox? No, you'll likely just think the email was never sent. I've been asking for this feature to be altered in the forums for some time, but so far, it still works the old way. I think it would be easy to offer the option to those who want it. If only I was a decent programmer, I would try to fix it myself. Antman. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Testing Sent Folder
Michael Gordon wrote: Michael Gordon replied On 6/14/2009 1:58 PM The Sent Folder went away, it has been recreated, and this is testing hte send function. The test was successful, and the above post was saved in the new Sent folder. Michael Why not send an email to yourself, would not this have the same effect? Just wondering. -- Please reply to group,emails to designated address are never read. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Testing Sent Folder
Broadback wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: Michael Gordon replied On 6/14/2009 1:58 PM The Sent Folder went away, it has been recreated, and this is testing hte send function. The test was successful, and the above post was saved in the new Sent folder. Michael Why not send an email to yourself, would not this have the same effect? Just wondering. Either that or Michael could have sent his test post to the TEST group on this server!!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Testing Sent Folder
The Sent Folder went away, it has been recreated, and this is testing hte send function. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Testing Sent Folder
Michael Gordon replied On 6/14/2009 1:58 PM The Sent Folder went away, it has been recreated, and this is testing hte send function. The test was successful, and the above post was saved in the new Sent folder. Michael ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
