RE: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-05-20 Thread Slade Henson
Is not a believer one who believe in the promises of God? I don't recall anywhere where one must believe in the curses of God to be a member of the Ekklesia. -- slade -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Thursday, 20 May, 2004

RE: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-05-21 Thread Slade Henson
You mean you need only believe the "positive" promises, and not the "negatives"? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Th

RE: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-05-22 Thread Slade Henson
Good morning, my friend Izzy Your question requires different answers depending upon the use of the word "are" or "is."    To answer the "who is the seed of Abraham" question: The promises of God to Avraham and to his Seed (being a singular word) are intended for two persons: Avraham and Mess

RE: [TruthTalk] "ad hominem"?

2004-05-24 Thread Slade Henson
Hello, David.  I would like to point out something here in this thread. A mistake made in this thread was taking an event that occurred 2,000 years ago and removing the cultural significance behind it (replacing it with modern culture from the USA). By doing so, the "threader" risks causing

RE: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-05-28 Thread Slade Henson
There seems to be a confusion in nomenclature:   There is a difference between BELIEVING IN Yeshua and BELIEVING Yeshua.   Perhaps this is the difference everyone is stepping around.   -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of

RE: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-05-29 Thread Slade Henson
I know many people who believe Yeshua lived, breathed, and walked the Earth. In this context, they believe IN Yeshua. Is it safe to assume all Protestant/Catholic Christianity fits in this category?     However, many of these people do not believe what Yeshua said: They do not believe He

RE: [TruthTalk] When man's law is contrary to God's law

2004-06-01 Thread Slade Henson
That would have been me, David. I was arrested for spanking my son. However, it isn't a law violation in ANY state. People think it is, but it isn't against the law. Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Tuesday, 01 June, 200

RE: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-03 Thread Slade Henson
Perry. Can you explain to me why you believe this particular passage in Romans is referring to the Gospel? -- slade -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Thursday, 03 June, 2004 09:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [

[TruthTalk] No one will spend an eternity in torment who has not personally chosen this end

2004-06-05 Thread Slade Henson
Someone said, "Noone will spend an eternity in torment who has not personally chosen this end." Consider Matthew 12:30. Perhaps the term "who has not personally chosen" is a bit too narrow.   I do not buy the argument that one must personally choose, either.   Perhaps the best way to explai

RE: [TruthTalk] Trustworthy?

2004-06-09 Thread Slade Henson
Linda, Sounds to me like you may be a bit "cult shocked", which I can totally understand as being one who has been "affected" (INfected? :)) by a cult "leader". Stay in the Scriptures, always testing...Trust Yeshua, not man. Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL P

RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-14 Thread Slade Henson
I saw the movie as well, but I was disturbed by it. While John saw positive aspects to it, I am the opposite. I saw how easily it is for a man (a leader with little or no accountability) to fall from grace and sanity, and drift into the cultic and cult-leader status.   While I do not want t

RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-14 Thread Slade Henson
Jude 21-23   -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of ShieldsFamilySent: Monday, 14 June, 2004 19:22To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle Slade, Good points indeed.  What do you see as the sol

RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-15 Thread Slade Henson
Oops. Sorry. I thought you were referring to how one can handle one a person in such a state.   Submitting to the Scriptures, to the voice of the Spirit within you, and submitting to the brethren who support you is a great start. Also, I believe that having "accountability buddies" might be

[TruthTalk] For Izzy: Reagan Addresses Ecumenical Prayer Breakfast

2004-06-16 Thread Slade Henson
ï President Reagan Addresses Ecumenical Prayer Breakfast in Dallas, Texas -- August 23, 1984 http://www.aclj.org/news/040607_reagan_speech_religion.asp

[TruthTalk] Mosaic Authorship

2004-06-16 Thread Slade Henson
ï I many books (both secular and religious), I've noticed a tendency to for these authors to refer to the Pentateuch (Torah) as being strictly oral until around the time of its "codification under Ezra." What do you all think about that concept. Do you buy it or do you think it really was wr

[TruthTalk] Some More For Izzy

2004-06-16 Thread Slade Henson
President Reagan amended [National Day of Prayer] the law by permanently setting the day as the first Thursday of every May  http://www.aclj.org/Info/Ildayofp.Asp   Moral & Spiritual Dangers of Pornography http://www.aclj.org/news/bibpers/020529_dangers_of_porn.asp   Behind-The-Scenes Prayer

RE: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-18 Thread Slade Henson
Hello all.   I was wondering if you could critique this little bit I drew up this evening/morning. I give a hearty [and hopeful] "thank you" to those who participate.   -- slade     Within Jewish circles, the portion of Torah read over this Shabbat/Sabbath is Numbers 16:1-18:32. This por

[TruthTalk] Korach

2004-06-19 Thread Slade Henson
Good morning Slade.  It is obvious that you are taking your studies seriously, and what you have posted has been pretty much on target as far as I can tell.  Having said that, If it were me writing, I would have probably made two changes.Number one, I would have used A.D. instead of C.E.  (

RE: [TruthTalk] (Slade) God's Way and Man's Way

2004-06-19 Thread Slade Henson
A problem I see again and again is that the whole of Jewry is lumped together and a blanket statement is made and thrust upon the whole. Stop doing that. There are elements within the Israelite camp, within Jewry, and within Christianity who have failed. Has either three groups failed comple

RE: [TruthTalk] (Slade) God's Way and Man's Way

2004-06-19 Thread Slade Henson
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Saturday, 19 June, 2004 14:36To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [TruthTalk] (Slade) God's Way and Man's Way From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>A problem I see again and again is that the who

RE: [TruthTalk] (Slade) God's Way and Man's Way

2004-06-19 Thread Slade Henson
I disagree with some of your points, but they are non issues that can inflame and that is not my point nor my style by habit, but there is a point I would like to bring to the forefront. I will quote you and then begin. "I understand that the Jews were given the oracles of God and I va

RE: [TruthTalk] (Slade) God's Way and Man's Way

2004-06-20 Thread Slade Henson
I need to clean this up a bit because it's getting confusing. I will erase some stuff and write my comments in red. jt: Then what is "He came to His own and His own received Him not" (John 1:11) saying? John goes on to say "But as many as received Him, to them He gave the power to

RE: [TruthTalk] Simple Truths

2004-06-23 Thread Slade Henson
I like your simple truth, Izzy... however, I would like to make a bit simpler...   “Never fry bacon.”   -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of ShieldsFamilySent: Wednesday, 23 June, 2004 10:14To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subjec

RE: [TruthTalk] Fighting for liberty and freedom

2004-06-23 Thread Slade Henson
Some people right here in America are arrested for things just as foolish. Some people are held in jail for months for no reason.    Kay  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Wednesday, 23 June, 2004 15:54To: [E

Re: [TruthTalk] Christians and violence

2004-06-24 Thread Slade Henson
Good questions. I think there's a difference between "kill" and murder. God did tell His people to kill others in Scripture, but that was God, not man. If I murder someone, I think that's wrong, as it says in the Commandments. If I kill someone, in self-defense, I think it's different. I thi

RE: [TruthTalk] Fighting for liberty and freedom

2004-06-25 Thread Slade Henson
I'll biteWho are you talking about, Chris?   Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Chris BarrSent: Thursday, 24 June, 2004 13:56To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fighting for liberty and freedom \o/

RE: [TruthTalk] Fighting for liberty and freedom

2004-06-25 Thread Slade Henson
YahShua (Love in The SAVIOUR) Baruch YHVH, (Bless The LORD)  Chris Barr a servant of YHVH - Original Message - From: Slade Henson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06/25/2004 6:52 AM S

RE: [TruthTalk] Prayer Request

2004-06-25 Thread Slade Henson
Sure thing, Judy. A 52 hour drive? It should be less than 20.   Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Friday, 25 June, 2004 06:21To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [TruthTalk] Prayer Request   Would those

RE: [TruthTalk] Prayer Request

2004-06-25 Thread Slade Henson
As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. His students asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?" Yeshua answered, "Neither did this man sin, nor his parents; but, that the works of God might be revealed in him. (John 9:1-3) -- slade -Or

RE: [TruthTalk] Prayer Request

2004-06-27 Thread Slade Henson
birth.  How do you view the underlying message of this passage? Slade Henson wrote:   As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. His students asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?" Yeshua answered, "Neith

RE: [TruthTalk] Prayer Request

2004-06-28 Thread Slade Henson
have been grandparents, ggrandparents or gggrandparents. Jesus was wanting to focus on the works of God being revealed in the man that day rather than what caused his problem to begin with .. judyt     From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> As he passed by, he saw a

RE: [TruthTalk] Prayer Request

2004-06-28 Thread Slade Henson
Let me try that again   If all A's are B's and all B's are C's, then all C's are A's... right?

RE: [TruthTalk] Prayer Request

2004-06-28 Thread Slade Henson
evidence the Jews at the time of Jesus believed in an existence before birth.  How do you view the underlying message of this passage? Slade Henson wrote:   As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. His students asked him, "Rabbi, who si

RE: [TruthTalk] Prayer Request

2004-06-30 Thread Slade Henson
so there was definitely a cause even though Jesus did not choose to discuss it right then.  It could have been grandparents, ggrandparents or gggrandparents. Jesus was wanting to focus on the works of God being revealed in the man that day rather than what caused his prob

RE: [TruthTalk] Prayer Request

2004-06-30 Thread Slade Henson
Prayer RequestDAVEH:  SladeI've always viewed this passage as good evidence the Jews at the time of Jesus believed in an existence before birth.  How do you view the underlying message of this passage? Slade Henson wrote:  

RE: [TruthTalk] Prayer Request

2004-06-30 Thread Slade Henson
The thought here, Izzy, seems to be that there are only two covenants.. the "Old" and the "New." I think this is wrong. When God makes a covenant, it's a permanent thing. There are no "ifs." People speak of an Adamic covenant. Is that one gone now that we have the Noachide covenant? Is the N

[TruthTalk] Divine Nature [Formerly -- Prayer Request]

2004-07-01 Thread Slade Henson
I hope you all don't mind, but I have renamed this thread more appropriately I think understand the following: DAVEH's position:  I believe Jesus existed as a spirit being in the OT.  His spirit body then became clothed in a body of flesh and blood for a brief span some 2000 years ago.  At h

RE: [TruthTalk] Divine Nature

2004-07-02 Thread Slade Henson
Oh? and what happens when one does not attempt to apprehend the Trinity . . .   I don't know. Will you tell me? I never said I never tried and I think anyone who says that "understand" the nature of God is a liar. How can the finite wrap their minds around the infinite?   . . . Never mind. J

RE: [TruthTalk] Divine Nature [Formerly -- Prayer Request]

2004-07-02 Thread Slade Henson
DAVEH:  I'm not sure why you say that, Slade.  I think I corrected Perry (I believe it was Perry who said a similar thing about LDS theology) in a post a week or so ago when he suggested my belief did not allow Jesus to be God in the pre-mortal existence.    School and family take much of m

RE: [TruthTalk] 'Elohim' Sabbath Study

2004-07-02 Thread Slade Henson
LET US MAKE MAN Despite the testimony of Jewish scholarship, despite the consistent record from the Bible itself that "God is One: there is not other", some have stepped forward to offer a challenge. And they have turned to the first chapter of Genesis for the basis of that challenge: Then

RE: [TruthTalk] Divine Nature

2004-07-02 Thread Slade Henson
Butt in at any time, my friend!!!   I know many people think that the "Angel of the Lord" is Yeshua. Others hold that it is the Spirit of the Holy One. Since there is nothing concrete to go on, I have adopted the perspective that it's not necessarily Yeshua. There is one "character" in the

RE: Terry -- Re: [TruthTalk] Divine Nature

2004-07-03 Thread Slade Henson
While Acts 2.33 may be a good verse, please refer to Acts 7.55-58   -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, 03 July, 2004 01:08To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Terry -- Re: [TruthTalk]

RE: [TruthTalk] Divine Nature

2004-07-03 Thread Slade Henson
ï I agree. This has been a good discussion... and for the most part it has been discussed with level heads and calm hearts. I would like to point out something in your opening paragraph that strikes me as interesting.     You said "I am thinking that when we define who we are by what we do r

RE: [TruthTalk] Divine Nature

2004-07-03 Thread Slade Henson
bject: Re: [TruthTalk] Divine Nature Slade:Non-dualistic, Hebraic, combining the empirical & the theoretical. I believe that's what you are affirming. The Hellenistic (Greek) model separates things that ought not to be separated.  - Original Message - Fr

RE: [TruthTalk] Divine Nature

2004-07-05 Thread Slade Henson
slade in yaroq   I understood Slade's thoughtful repose to be the result of nothing more than one who is thinking out loud.   In the end of this episode, Slade concludes his presentation by admitting  that " Since these questions both have two answers depending upon the working mindset, the

[TruthTalk] Martin Luther... the Father of the Holocaust

2004-07-05 Thread Slade Henson
There would be no Hitler's Germany had it not been for Martin Luther. Hitler's early plan for the Jewish people mirrored the "punishment" suggested by Luther in The Jews and Their Lies.   There is far more to the historicity of Hitler's Germany than IG Farben who (among hundreds of other co

RE: [TruthTalk] Martin Luther... the Father of the Holocaust

2004-07-05 Thread Slade Henson
Sorry. I did not intend to post this email. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Slade HensonSent: Monday, 05 July, 2004 19:06To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [TruthTalk] Martin Luther... the Father of the Holocaust There would

RE: [TruthTalk] Divine Nature

2004-07-06 Thread Slade Henson
ï Knpraise --  these words make me fear that slade is a little ticked but how can I know for sure without asking.  So I will assume the best until it becomes obvious beyond debate.     slade -- No. I wasn't ticked. 

RE: [TruthTalk] question

2004-07-06 Thread Slade Henson
Good morning Lance. Looks like we're up at the same time of morning. I hope your coffee is warm. You gave "one man's understanding." Is this your understanding or is it someone else's? If someone else's, could you tell me who? -- slade -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[

RE: [TruthTalk] Interesting Article

2004-07-08 Thread Slade Henson
JONATHAN HUGHES SAYS: "John, a man who commits adultery (even 60 times which of course in Clinton’s case is hogwash) can still be a Christian.  It is no worse a sin than your own hypocrisy."   I hear that sin is sin and no sin is greater than another. Jonathan seems to be using this concept h

RE: [TruthTalk] Interesting Article

2004-07-08 Thread Slade Henson
t: Thursday, 08 July, 2004 17:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Interesting Article James 2:10 - For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. >From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: [TruthTalk] Interesting Article

2004-07-08 Thread Slade Henson
Thank you, Terry. You and I are on the same page with this topic. For me, I've used the Mosaic Law to show how some intentional sins requires a quick death penalty while others do not. I do agree that any sin we commit keeps us out of the Kingdom. I also agree that without a belief in the at

RE: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: [TruthTalk] Interesting Article

2004-07-09 Thread Slade Henson
lf Of Terry CliftonSent: Thursday, 08 July, 2004 20:24To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: [TruthTalk] Interesting Article Slade Henson wrote: JONATHAN HUGHES SAYS: "John, a man who commits adultery (even 60 times which of course in Clinton’s

RE: [TruthTalk] Love your neighbor as yourself

2004-07-11 Thread Slade Henson
JD SAYS: There is a scripture that tells us to "think of others more highly than we think of ourselves."   SLADE ASKS: Can you teach an old sheep a new trick by giving him the address for that reference?

RE: [TruthTalk] Love your neighbor as yourself

2004-07-11 Thread Slade Henson
BT SAID -- I do not know how I would get along with [Hitler or Jeffrey Dahmer]. They may not be receptive to getting along. Still I do know this: no matter who moves next door, Jesus' commandment will not change. I am to love them the way I love myself -- or put another way, treat them the w

RE: [TruthTalk] Marriage, divorce, remarriage, continued

2004-07-12 Thread Slade Henson
I have a bit of a differing opinion than most... perhaps. For me, the key is in the word "covenant." When a man beats his wife or emotionally damages her, he has broken the covenant he has made with her and she is free to leave. If the woman does likewise or is not sexually loyal to him, she

RE: [TruthTalk] Marriage, divorce, remarriage, continued

2004-07-13 Thread Slade Henson
Do you think marriages back then were not covenants? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Terry CliftonSent: Monday, 12 July, 2004 08:22To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Marriage, divorce, remarriage, continuedSlad

RE: [TruthTalk] Marriage, divorce, remarriage, continued

2004-07-13 Thread Slade Henson
Hello again, Terry. I hope your week is progressing fruitfully and enjoyably   I think marriage is a covenant whether entered by choice, purchase, or arrangement. Jacob had two wives by purchase and two wives by arrangement, though commentators seems to indicate that the two by arrangement

RE: [TruthTalk] Marriage, divorce, remarriage, continued

2004-07-13 Thread Slade Henson
The abusers in the Community of Faith really love this [i.e, "I see no scriptural backing for “emotional damage"] because they can terrorize their families and belittle their wives and they [the family] must submit to it since we no longer live in a nation where we can take the abusive husba

RE: [TruthTalk] Marriage, divorce, remarriage, continued

2004-07-14 Thread Slade Henson
Your rambling was fine, Izzy!!   This is such an ugly topic. It's too bad our [human] hearts are so hard that divorce even needs to be an option.   -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of ShieldsFamilySent: Tuesday, 13 July

RE: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-14 Thread Slade Henson
Guys, can I interject? We are to deny self -- we are to throw off the lustful shackles of the world. We are to dance and rejoice in YHVH. A Wedding is a celebration of upcoming life! We are to rejoice for the new husband and wife because we know what *JOY* they will be receive in their newfo

Re: [TruthTalk] Marriage, divorce, remarriage, continued]

2004-07-14 Thread Slade Henson
Have a hard line against divorce, Terry. I wish it didn't have to exist... but don't allow the hard line against the person. Divorce was given to us because we have hard hearts... and our hard hearts causes divorce. Since we cannot get into the hearts and minds of our fellow humans (THANK GO

RE: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: [TruthTalk] Marriage, divorce, remarriage, continued]

2004-07-14 Thread Slade Henson
Marriage, divorce, remarriage, continued] Slade: Amen again!   Recommended reading:Repenting of Religion: Turning from Judgment to the Love of God Baker, 2004 - Original Message - From: Slade Henson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 14, 20

RE: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-14 Thread Slade Henson
I appreciate your candidness, Terry.   Here's another perspective...   In the midst of persecution, Reb Tevye once said, "Thank you, G-d, for making us Your chosen people... but it would be nice if You'd choose someone else once in a while."   -- slade -Original Message-From:

RE: [TruthTalk] Doesn't Anyone Care? - by Rabbi Daniel Lapin

2004-07-14 Thread Slade Henson
That was a very good article. Thank you, Izzy.   -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of ShieldsFamilySent: Wednesday, 14 July, 2004 20:09To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [TruthTalk] Doesn't Anyone Care? - by Rabbi Daniel

RE: [TruthTalk] Marriage, divorce, remarriage, continued

2004-07-15 Thread Slade Henson
I agree. I remember hearing, "He who slays a man... so you shall kill him." Nowhere in Scripture is the divorcee killed for divorcing.   -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, 15 July, 2004

RE: PROBABLE SPAM> [TruthTalk] Religious Books

2004-07-15 Thread Slade Henson
Repenting of Religion: Turning from Judgment to the Love of God Baker, 2004   From: Slade Henson Have a hard line against divorce, Terry. I wish it didn't have to exist... but don't allow the hard line against the person. Divorce was given to us because we h

RE: [TruthTalk] Religious Books

2004-07-15 Thread Slade Henson
Jonathan. I would be honored to receive one of Boyd's books. For clarification purposes, I am not into "Openness." I will email you my address privately, though.   -- slade  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jonathan HughesSent

RE: [TruthTalk] Hyperbole

2004-07-17 Thread Slade Henson
Welcome to the world of anti-Semitism.   Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Saturday, 17 July, 2004 09:07To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [TruthTalk] Hyperbole Good Morning Lance, Would the Tanakh Transl

RE: [TruthTalk] God Hates

2004-07-17 Thread Slade Henson
JUDY SAID: The word hate here means (love them less than) for if we put them ahead of God we are making idols out of them and unbelieving family members can certainly exert a lot of pressure at times.   SLADE SAYS: I agree with your perspective. The greatest commandment is to love God with

RE: [TruthTalk] Hyperbole

2004-07-17 Thread Slade Henson
Kay was not offended by your post, Judy, so it's ok. I am not offended by your post either. I would like to demonstrate to you where the problem lies.   Example One: The US court system made it legal to perform abortions. In recent months, it is legal for doctors to perform abortion on teenag

RE: [TruthTalk] Hyperbole

2004-07-17 Thread Slade Henson
    jt  asked : I'm glad that we can discuss this issue and walk in love toward one another Slade & Kay even though we may not agree (BTW are you Jewish yourselves or Gentiles who are sympathetic to the plight of the Jews?).     Kay Answers: I have no idea about any

RE: [TruthTalk] Hyperbole

2004-07-17 Thread Slade Henson
jt: I'm glad that we can discuss this issue and walk in love toward one another Slade & Kay even though we may not agree (BTW are you Jewish yourselves or Gentiles who are sympathetic to the plight of the Jews?).    Slade says: My maternal grandparents are Jewish from [what eventually became

[TruthTalk] Gay Marriage Roll Call Vote

2004-07-18 Thread Slade Henson
 Gay Marriage Roll Call Vote By The Associated Press -- altered by slade The 50-48 roll call by which the Senate blocked a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. Supporters of the amendment fell 12 votes short of the 60 they needed to advance the bill. Please note who were the abstain

RE: [TruthTalk] Gay Marriage Roll Call Vote

2004-07-18 Thread Slade Henson
The problem is this... it'll BE the people-who-have-turned-from-their-sin-and-voiced-the-opinion-that-the-USA-has-become-Sodom who will be persecuted, jailed, expelled (with little or no possessions), and killed. This is historically the pattern.   -- slade -Original Message-From

RE: [TruthTalk] Hyperbole (slade)

2004-07-18 Thread Slade Henson
jt: I'm not suggesting it but the apostle Paul did say in Romans 11:17 that some of the branches were broken off; and while they were under the Law God through the prophets complained continually about them breaking his Covenant with them which was through the Law of Moses.    SOME branches

RE: [TruthTalk] Hyperbole (slade)

2004-07-18 Thread Slade Henson
No Slade I don't, but I do believe in the truth and accuracy of scripture. Blood libel according to a Jewish website is as follows: The blood libel, an allegation that Jews murdered non-Jews for blood to make their Passover matzahs and for use in other rituals was one of the worse DEFAMATION

RE: [TruthTalk] Hyperbole (slade)

2004-07-18 Thread Slade Henson
Peter said, quote: "Let ALL THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus WHOM YE [who stand before me this day] HAVE CRUCIFIED both Lord and Christ. Now when they heart this they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men an

RE: [TruthTalk] Hyperbole (slade)

2004-07-18 Thread Slade Henson
My response was in the quote. I added the bracketed material. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Sunday, 18 July, 2004 18:41To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [TruthTalk] Hyperbole (slade) Slade, Did you send

RE: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: [TruthTalk] Gay Marriage Roll Call Vote

2004-07-19 Thread Slade Henson
I like your attitude, Terry.   -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Terry CliftonSent: Monday, 19 July, 2004 17:18To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: [TruthTalk] Gay Marriage Roll Call Vote Iz, I

[TruthTalk] Hyperbole -- A Biblical Example?

2004-07-19 Thread Slade Henson
I have a proposal for the group. I know we've discussed hyperbole until we're blue in the fingertips, but I think I might have an example of Hyperbole from Shaul of Tarsus's writings...   If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but I do not have love, I have become as sounding bra

RE: [TruthTalk] America in the Bible

2004-07-20 Thread Slade Henson
I agree, Lance. Many prophecy peddlers use current geography to influence their understanding of text written within historical context. Keep up the good discernment.   -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Tuesday, 20 July, 2004 12:

RE: [TruthTalk] God Hates

2004-07-22 Thread Slade Henson
I have a bit of a question. I know the average commentator will say that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is some thing humans can do now - today. The person in green below (Bill, I think) claims Hebrews speaks of it as a trampling underfoot the Son of God. What if the definition is considerably

RE: [TruthTalk] God Hates

2004-07-23 Thread Slade Henson
many also who do not.   Thanks for your input.   Bill - Original Message - From: Slade Henson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:38 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] God Hates I have a bit of a question.

[TruthTalk] 400+ different theologies and systems

2004-07-24 Thread Slade Henson
    The insult could be promoting "another Jesus" an anti Christ, in the sense of (in place of) and this is what we are warned against. Israel did it all the time. They followed their own wayward hearts and their own ideas. Being obdurant, stiff necked, and refusing to allow the Spirit thro

RE: [TruthTalk] 400+ different theologies and systems

2004-07-24 Thread Slade Henson
his delusion. We certainly don't see God doing all that much today and our learned theologians sitting on their dead thrones have a kit if excuses why this is so.  You would think that God died along with the last apostle.     From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTEC

RE: [TruthTalk] Dylan wrecked by reckless Christianity

2004-07-24 Thread Slade Henson
Bob Dylan, who was born a Jew, converted to Christianity in 1978-79. Just thought you guys might want to know. I wonder where Chris's "backyard" was back then and if he was smokin' the fringe of his tunic, got a bit confused and has remained that way. If anyone doubts the information on Dyla

RE: [TruthTalk] The bloodline of Jesus

2004-07-24 Thread Slade Henson
The whole world groans under the weight of sin. It has polluted the very "fabric" of space. We, as weak human beings, are incapable of rising above it without divine assistance, so we swim and we drown in it. Yeshua, as God, was able to walk on these waters, so to speak, and that gave Him th

[TruthTalk] Oneness vs. Plurality -- Echad

2004-07-25 Thread Slade Henson
I would like to submit this small item for your consideration. Since the topic, recently, has been on the multiplicity of God versus His Oneness, I would like to supply a small contribution. This [rough draft] is a part of the Dissertation I am writing, so any constructive input is valuable

[TruthTalk] Idioms At Face Value

2004-07-26 Thread Slade Henson
I know nothing of the Restoration Movement -or- the Stone-Campbell Movement. Calling things by their Biblical Names is what most people attempt to do most of the time, I think. However, you've always got the people who say you can't use this or that word because it either doesn't fit their t

RE: [TruthTalk] Oneness vs. Plurality -- Echad

2004-07-27 Thread Slade Henson
ï The Oneness of God in Jewish Theology instinctively speaks of God being The Only One in the universe. (It's also a knee-jerk reaction to the "three-god" comments from Trinity haters within the Christian camp -- they use the same comments!) Within this mindset, comes the allegorical concept

RE: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-07-28 Thread Slade Henson
ï The reason it's blue and underlined is because it's one great big link to send email to TruthTalk. Should this ever happen again, convert your email to PLAIN TEXT (found under "Format" at the top of the window you're using to send the email). This removes all colors, links, fonts, font thin

RE: [TruthTalk]

2004-07-28 Thread Slade Henson
I regret to hear you're leaving. I hope things go well with your future endeavors. Thank you for your kind words and insights. I know you only as Bill Taylor from TruthTalk, but you will be missed nonetheless. I am sorry for my part.   -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL P

[TruthTalk] Does baptism "save?" Do works "save?"

2004-07-29 Thread Slade Henson
An attempt to change the subject. Does baptism "save?" Do works "save?" I gots the answer. Or do I?      (a) No (b) No (c) I'm sure you must or you're just a seeker here (d) Yes -- I think you do    A few comments on your paper are below. Overall, I enjoyed the read.In Old Covenant times

RE: [TruthTalk] 1 Cor. 10:8

2004-08-02 Thread Slade Henson
I have a slightly different take on the passage.   Numbers 25.9 is clear (in all the authorities I own) that 24,000 died... not 23,000 as Judy supposes.   The deaths in Exodus 32 are completely separate from this episode. Each verse in 1 Corinthians 10:7-10 are separate episodes.   The vers

RE: [TruthTalk] 1 Cor. 10:8

2004-08-02 Thread Slade Henson
Terry says: Thanks to you also Slade.  I was not aware of the numbers thing that I underlined.  I had always assumed that the Biblical record was meticulously passed down from generation to generation in minute detail.  You are correct in the meticulous passing down of the Text. Please reme

RE: [TruthTalk] 1 Cor. 10:8

2004-08-03 Thread Slade Henson
Examples:   In Exodus, Moshe gives us information on the Tabernacle. He gives very little visual information (essence). Instead, he gives the function of the Tabernacle (which, in the Hebraic mindset is far more important). We know what material is used in the curtains, for instance, but

Re: [TruthTalk] 1 Cor. 10:8

2004-08-03 Thread Slade Henson
0:8   Slade Henson wrote: Examples: In Exodus, Moshe gives us information on the Tabernacle. He gives very little visual information (essence). Instead, he gives the function of the Tabernacle (which, in the Hebraic mindset is far more important). We know what material is used in the curtains,

RE: [TruthTalk] 1 Cor. 10:8

2004-08-04 Thread Slade Henson
Hi Slade,   I'm not understanding here.  I see all kinds of colors and details in the directions given to Moses for the construction of the Tabernacle and every one of them is meaningful and functional as well as visual.  Genesis 35:6,7 speaks of Blue and purple, and scarlet, and fine li

RE: [TruthTalk] Jewish baptism

2004-08-04 Thread Slade Henson
Oops… John 15.3 has nothing to do with “cleanliness.” Please check the context. It has to do with husbandry… which makes sense since He is our Husband.   - slade   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Wednesday, Augu

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