Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-02-10 Thread Kevin Deegan
Joe says this is his god: "Fig. 7. Represents God sitting upon his throne, revealing through the heavens the grand Key-words of the Priesthood; as, also, the sign of the Holy Ghost unto Abraham, in the form of a dove." So Joe's god is a SEXUALLY AROUSED MAN, an ithyphallic deity. How could

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-02-03 Thread Dean Moore
way, Dean --- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Similar words were again--for the third time--given to the wickedreligious leadersand people of these last days, by Jesus Christ

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-02-02 Thread Blaine Borrowman
- Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus - Original Message

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-02-01 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus - Original Message - From: Blaine Borrowman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 1/31/2004 9:33:47 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Blaine: Same--but I changed a word or two to change the tense. Dean writes: It would

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-31 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus THe Bible teaches in John 17:17 Sanctify then through thy truth, thy word is truth. To me this means that to find truth one is to look to the word of God: to teach truth outside that word is to teach a questionable truth. To teach a

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-31 Thread Dean Moore
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Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-31 Thread Blaine Borrowman
- Original Message - From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:18 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus THe Bible teaches in John 17:17 Sanctify th

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-31 Thread Kevin Deegan
MAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:18 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus THe Bible teaches in John 17:1

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-31 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Blaine: Same--but I changed a word or two to change the tense. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Similar words were again--for the third time

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-31 Thread Blaine Borrowman
h her, huh? (:)(:)(:)(:)(:)(:) - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Similar words were again--for the third time--given to the wickedreligious leaders

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-31 Thread Kevin Deegan
Saturday, January 31, 2004 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Similar words were again--for the third time--given to the wickedreligious leadersand people of these last days, by Jesus Christ, because it applies to them--again. He said, more succinctly this time, and with emphasis on

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-31 Thread Kevin Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Similar words were again--for the third time--given to the wickedreligious leadersand people of these last days, by Jesus Christ, because it applies to them--again. He said, more succinctly this time

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Gal.

2004-01-26 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus David on the below reference the Apostle give us clear direction on remove our selves from false prophets-v. 8 instructs us to not only remove ourselves from them in religious activity but to also remove them from our company all

[TruthTalk] ] False Teachers/ Prophets

2004-01-26 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus Dean writes: False prophets and false teachers are the same as shown in 2 Peter 2:1,16. Here the warning is giving about false teachers and Balaam is shown to be one and described as a prophet(v.16). It is not the title of these

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-26 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: Many Christians are not saved. Statistics are that 85% of U.S. citizens are Christians. The majority of these are not saved. Dean wrote: Then define the word Christian to me please? A Christian is someone whose religion is based primarily upon the idea of following

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-26 Thread Charles Perry Locke
I think of mercy as not getting a punishment that you deserve, and grace as getting a gift that you don't deserve. From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:29:11 -0500 David Miller

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-26 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus [Original Message] From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/26/2004 5:35:02 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers David Miller wrote: Many Christians are not saved. Statistics are that 85

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers-Acts

2004-01-25 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus Dean writes: David here are the results of allowing a false prophet into you mist-Also note that the were women leaders of the early church-Prophetess were common (v.20) -unfortunately this one was evil-as all false Teachers/Prophets

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-23 Thread Dean Moore
Dean writes: Concerning Pharisees (False Teachers/Prophets-even by your definition) and the fact that Jesus ate with them-Here is how He told us to deal with them. Am I not pointing them and promoting others to leave them? If I am not in line with the Bible then neither is Adam Clark -nor John

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Acts

2004-01-23 Thread Dean Moore
Dean writes: While I realize that this is speaking about a church- to which I would ask are there not two or more brethren here-and doesn't that make up a church. Paul was deeply concerned that false teachers would come in among the brethren and lead many astray. He feared this so much that he

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Acts-Grace

2004-01-23 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus Dean writes: David you have imparted Grace to the Mormons who teach another religion.They has fallibly stated that they are in agreement with Satan who told AE to eat the fruit and Ye shall be as Gods and No non-Mormon will enter

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-21 Thread Charles Perry Locke
between those resurrected may vary, but I don't see that this indicates that we go to different heavens or kingdoms. Perry From: Blaine Borrowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David. Date: Mon

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-21 Thread Blaine Borrowman
- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David. Blaine, I fail to to see how these versee say there are three heav

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-21 Thread Dave
Charles Perry Locke wrote: Blaine wrote: >There would be no point in separating the sheep from the goats, or the >tares from the wheat, in the final judgement, if they were all going to >end up in the same place anyway. We do not all end up in the same place. There is heaven and hell. Just

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-21 Thread Charles Perry Locke
DAVEH: I'm curious, Perry. Are there any passages in the Bible that use a phrase like heaven and hell in the same sentence, or sermon? Yes, and although I did not search for them, there probably are some where heaven and hell are mentioned in adjacent verses, as well as in the same sermon.

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-20 Thread Blaine Borrowman
] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David. DaveH wrote: Do other TTers feel I've coaxed Blaine as to what to say? No, certainly not nearly as much as Dean has coaxed Kevin. :-) Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. -- Let your speech be always with grace

[TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-20 Thread jandgtaylor1
Judy: (see below) No it wouldnt... More accurately this would be the ministry of the Holy Spirit TO the unbeliever because when they hear the Word He convicts them of sin, their lack of righteousness, and the judgment to come which was what Paul spoke about to Felix in Acts 24:25 until he

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-20 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus Dean wrote: Read the rest of the story-Balaam errors in the matter of pe-or and lead Israel to sin (Num. 23:28, Num.25:18) and many in Israel went to hell because of him-(2 peter 2:15) This is what I am warning about

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-19 Thread Dave
Charles Perry Locke wrote: DavidH, Thanks for the response, although you really didn't answer any of the questions, but that is your choice, which I respect. DAVEH: Thanx Perry..Seems I don't get a lot of respect on TT. (AndI do know there are some TTers who do afford me a fair measure

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-19 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: Even Paul, in his letter to the Romans, speaks about how God's grace manifests itself even greater in the presence of sin (Romans 5:20). This at first seems contrary to how many people think about God's grace. We generally think that God is favorable toward those who

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-19 Thread David Miller
Dean wrote: Your claim is that Daveh has grace-are you saying his is saved- No. Dean wrote: Earlier you declared him to be a Christian-How is he saved? He is not saved. Many Christians are not saved. Statistics are that 85% of U.S. citizens are Christians. The majority of these are not

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-19 Thread David Miller
DaveH wrote: Do other TTers feel I've coaxed Blaine as to what to say? No, certainly not nearly as much as Dean has coaxed Kevin. :-) Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
I'm just a ghost writerDavid Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DaveH wrote: Do other TTers feel I've coaxed Blaine as to what to say?No, certainly not nearly as much as Dean has coaxed Kevin. :-)Peace be with you.David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.--"Let your speech be always with grace,

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-19 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus [Original Message] From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/19/2004 11:11:29 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers David Miller wrote: Even Paul, in his letter to the Romans, speaks about how

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-19 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus Dean wrote: Your claim is that Daveh has grace-are you saying his is saved- No. Dean wrote: Earlier you declared him to be a Christian-How is he saved? He is not saved. Many Christians are not saved. Statistics are that

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-19 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus DaveH wrote: Do other TTers feel I've coaxed Blaine as to what to say? No, certainly not nearly as much as Dean has coaxed Kevin. :-) Dean writes: David-If it is to teach truth then there is no fault in helping anyone-I doubt

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-19 Thread Blaine Borrowman
- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David. Perry wrote: In fact, the heaven you describe is nowhere described in

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-18 Thread Dave
DAVEH: My latest comments are in BLUE. Dean Moore wrote: >* Yes he warned her and she listened -Does Daveh listen? I have been to the >well with him-has he gone and told his brethren to come and listen to us as >the women did? DAVEH: Well, yes Dean..I am responsible for inviting a few

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers

2004-01-18 Thread Dave
Dean Moore wrote: > > and in time you will/have convert some on this > > list to your way of thinking to different degrees. > > DAVEH: ROTFLOL..You give me far too much credit in this vein, Dean! If I offer a gem of truth (such as Jesus has a body of flesh and bones) that brings a measure

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-18 Thread Dave
Dean Moore wrote: > > > **Blaine writes: Perhaps I should not speak for him, but in my humble > > > opinion DaveH has no need to get anything from me--he does quite well by > > > himself. His testimony is pretty well fixed--like the rock of Gibralter, I > > > would say. I think he does have a

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-18 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus Blaine: I came to TT because both Dave H and Dave M were such nice guys. Neither one gave me any prep taking though. Just a friendly welcome. I am on my own, as you are no doubt aware. But I am, like DaveH, learning quite a bit

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-18 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus Blaine: Hear! Hear! Very well written, DavidM. Dean writes: Well I can say one thing D.Miller-you have the love of the False teachers/prophets. They applaud you and what you are doing. But the Street preachers are crying aloud

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-18 Thread Charles Perry Locke
. Which heaven will those such as Hitler enter? Perry From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David. Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 02:58:05 -0800 Dean Moore wrote: **Blaine writes: Perhaps I

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-18 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus DAVEH: LOL...Oh Dean, you are myopic, ain't you! You must have missed the smilie! (:) Dean writes: DaveH this is an Ad. Hom attack. If I must play by the rules so must you. Dean writes: Tell me

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-18 Thread Dave
Dean Moore wrote: Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus > > > > > > > > DAVEH: LOL...Oh Dean, you are myopic, ain't you! You must have > > > missed the smilie! (:>) > > > > > > Dean writes: > > > DaveH this is an Ad. Hom attack. If I must play by the rules so must >

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-18 Thread Dave
Charles Perry Locke wrote: DavidH, I had asked you to answer few questions regarding mormon heaven(s) last Thursday, and have not seen an answer. Either I missed them, or you have not answered them. If you do not intend to answer them, that is fine, but please let us know why. DAVEH: No Perry,

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-18 Thread Charles Perry Locke
DavidH, Thanks for the response, although you really didn't answer any of the questions, but that is your choice, which I respect. The reason I asked the questions is not necessarily because I needed to know an answer, but I think in all honesty that all TT'rs should know the Mormon

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-18 Thread Kevin Deegan
LDS Profets can't help Restore the Divergent beliefs. There are HUNDREDS of offshoots from Joe Smith WHICH ONE is the ONE TRUE CHURCH? The LDS Profets contradict one another which one is Right?Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dean Moore wrote: **Blaine writes: Perhaps I should not speak for

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-18 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Blaine: See DavidH's comments below--they are as it happened. - Original Message - From: Dave To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers DAVEH: My latest comments are in BLUE. Dean Moore

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-17 Thread Dave
Dean Moore wrote: > I don't claim that they seek bread. They are not here to learn or > convert to some other form of Christianity. Different Mormons have come > here for different reasons. DaveH seems to appreciate seeing for > himself what non-Mormon Christians are like. He does not want to

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-17 Thread David Miller
Dean wrote: Sin is good so eat the fruit-God has sex with Mary- You will be a God-Satan and Jesus are brothers- The Temple is a way to heaven which one must enter through-Baptism for the dead-Celestial marriage- Joe Smith restored the fallen church...etc. All is another gospel. I think

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-17 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus Dean wrote: Sin is good so eat the fruit-God has sex with Mary- You will be a God-Satan and Jesus are brothers- The Temple is a way to heaven which one must enter through-Baptism for the dead-Celestial marriage- Joe

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
Go ahead ask the LDS what the gospel is!David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dean wrote: Sin is good so eat the fruit-God has sex with Mary- You will be a God-Satan and Jesus are brothers- The Temple is a way to heaven which one must enter through-Baptism for the dead-Celestial marriage- Joe

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-17 Thread Blaine Borrowman
- Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 6:08 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers * Yes he warned her and she listened -Does Daveh listen? I have been to the well with him-has

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-17 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Blaine: Hear! Hear! Very well written, DavidM. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 8:08 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Dean wrote: Sin is good so eat the fruit-God has sex with Mary- You

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers

2004-01-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
BLAINE We believe that "As in Adam all men die, even so in Jesus Christ shall all be made alive." If you know so much, how does this fit with what you are saying? 1 I guess you answered it for us you left a "1" on your post follow the links or put your mouse over the 1 in your post below. Thanks

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-16 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus So if every good gift comes from above, then when an evil man does good, the source of that also must come from above. Dean writes: And what is Daveh's good fruit?Is it good to eat of the forbidden fruit in the garden? Daveh

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-16 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus David Miller wrote: My position is that those who are apart from God sometimes do experience God, before they have actually become born again and experienced the life changing experience of regeneration. Are we in

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-14 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus Dean wrote: I believe that apart from God good works are of a selfish motive. It's like what can they receive in turn for the good work. Even love. We agree that apart from God, there is no such thing as good or love.

[TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers

2004-01-14 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: "Blaine Borrowman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blaine: What I hear Judy saying is that only those who believe the Bible is the word of God are Christians, and if you believe there are other scriptures, you are not Christian? Is this correct, Judy? Correct me if I am wrong. Judy: This is what

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-14 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: My position is that those who are apart from God sometimes do experience God, before they have actually become born again and experienced the life changing experience of regeneration. Are we in agreement with this concept or not? Dean wrote: The term apart from God

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers

2004-01-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
According to LDS theology you must join the ONE TRUE Church There is NO salvation outside of that church 1 Ne. 14: 10 10And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers

2004-01-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
Jesus is the TRUTH When did jesus point anyone to a church? LDS testimonies even point to the Church. A Testimony of a Church what a wierd thing to hear a LDS testimony say "I know the church is true" see: http://ourworld-top.cs.com/mikegriffith1/id70.htm TWELVE SIGNS THAT THE LDS CHURCH IS THE

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers

2004-01-13 Thread Dave
Terry Clifton wrote: To Dave H and Blaine: Christians are Christians because of what they believe,e.g. God is eternal, no beginning, no end. Jesus, the Christ is His ONLY son. Satan was an angel, not a relative. When you die, you go to Heaven or Hell based on what you did with the shed

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-13 Thread Dave
DAVEH: My latest post is in BLUE.. Kevin Deegan wrote: DAVEH: I know what I am, Kevin.It does not matter that you Claim not to be a prophet of any kind. The proof is in the pudding. You teach false doctrine , that makes you a FALSE Teacher. You probably consider yourself a christian too.

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-13 Thread Dean Moore
David Miller wrote: 1. Do you believe that any good exists apart from God? In other words, can a man or woman say or do anything that can be called good without God working in them and through them? Dean wrote: No I do not and would have to examine the motives of the

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-13 Thread David Miller
Dean wrote: I believe that apart from God good works are of a selfish motive. It's like what can they receive in turn for the good work. Even love. We agree that apart from God, there is no such thing as good or love. Nevertheless, you seem to hint on the idea perhaps that only Christians

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers

2004-01-13 Thread Blaine Borrowman
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers In a message dated 1/12/2004 12:17:03 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: "Blaine Borrowman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]DaveH

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-13 Thread Blaine Borrowman
- Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus - Original Message

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers

2004-01-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers In a message dated 1/12/2004 12:17:03 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: "Blaine Borrowman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]DaveH writes:I am just interested

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread Dave
Dean Moore **Blaine writes: Perhaps I should not speak for him, but in my humble opinion DaveH has no need to get anything from me--he does quite well by himself. His testimony is pretty well fixed--like the rock of Gibralter, I would say. I think he does have a genuine concern for

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread Dave
DAVEH: Do you really consider me to be a (false) prophet, Dean? Or do you keep me more at the (false) teacher level? As you know, I have never claimed to be a prophet, nor do I want anybody to think I am such. I don't even consider myself being a teacher, and I don't quite understand

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers]

2004-01-12 Thread Dave
Dean wrote:DaveH is here to learn what we believe in order to change those beliefs to a Mormon belief. Now the spiritual interpretation" DaveH is here to steal the seed sowed by God and to corrupt them so that you will face the wrath of God.Blaine writes: Don't you think this sounds like you

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread Dave
Kevin Deegan wrote: DAVEH: Do you really consider me to be a (false) prophet, Dean? Or do you keep me more at the (false) teacher level? As you know, I have never claimed to be a prophet, nor do I want anybody to think I am such. I don't even consider myself being a teacher, and I don't quite

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus - Original Message - From: Blaine Borrowman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 1/11/2004 4:37:50 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Dean wrote: DaveH is here to learn what we believe in order to changethose beliefs

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 1/11/2004 9:43:30 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers DAVEH: Do you really consider me to be a (false) prophet, Dean? Or doyou keep me more

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers-Ad. Hom attack David.

2004-01-12 Thread Dean Moore
**Blaine writes: Perhaps I should not speak for him, but in my humble opinion DaveH has no need to get anything from me--he does quite well by himself. His testimony is pretty well fixed--like the rock of Gibralter, I would say. I think he does have a genuine concern for you

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
[Original Message] From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: TruthTalk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 1/12/2004 2:29:02 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False TeachersDAVEH: Do you really consider me to be a (false) prophet, Dean? Ordo you keep me more at the (false) teacher level? As

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
DAVEH: I know what I am, Kevin. It does not matter that you Claim not to be a prophet of any kind. The proof is in the pudding. You teach false doctrine , that makes you a FALSE Teacher. You probably consider yourself a christian too. DAVEH: ??? Are you suggesting that I am envious of TTers like

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Dean writes: For a person whom is going to "keep quite" you word shore say a lot. Blaine writes: I try to keep it down as much as possible: butit is difficult sometimes. How's this? Short enough? -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread Terry Clifton
To Dave H and Blaine: Christians are Christians because of what they believe,e.g. God is eternal, no beginning, no end. Jesus, the Christ is His ONLY son. Satan was an angel, not a relative. When you die, you go to Heaven or Hell based on what you did with the shed blood of Jesus

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
Prov 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. Of course you want a WIDE definition! Your definition; my definition; they do not matter. God's definition matters. Jesus said Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
Blaine do you have a NARROW DEFINITION of MORMON? Can I be a MORMON if I say I am? Can I be a good mormon and refuse the modern day profhet Gordo B Hinkley? Can I be a mormon and NOT follow the Brthren? Can I be amormon and reject Joe Smith? Can I be a mormon and believe the Book O MORMOn as

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Satan was an angel, not a relative GREAT comment, I really did LOL when I read this! maybe they should change the AD's to say "Families are forever, let us tell you about Satan's brother!"Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Dave H and Blaine:

[TruthTalk] TruthTalk False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: Blaine Borrowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] DaveH writes: I am just interested in knowing how some Christians try to narrow their definition of 'Christian' to eliminate those who have contrasting beliefs. Blaine writes: Well said. This is a penetrating question, and I would like a response to

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus - Original Message - From: Blaine Borrowman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 1/12/2004 11:55:17 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Dean writes: For a person whom is going to "keep quite" you word shore

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread Dean Moore
Dean, please answer the following: 1. Do you believe that any good exists apart from God? In other words, can a man or woman say or do anything that can be called good without God working in them and through them? No I do not and would have to examine the motives of the person who did

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: 1. Do you believe that any good exists apart from God? In other words, can a man or woman say or do anything that can be called good without God working in them and through them? Dean wrote: No I do not and would have to examine the motives of the person who did

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-12 Thread Dave
DAVEH: Hey DeanFor a guy who sometimes appears to lack a funny bone...At other times you are a scream!!! ROTFLOL Dean Moore wrote: Dean writes:For a person whom is going to "keep quite" you word shore say a lot. Blaine writes: I try to keep it down as much as possible: but it is

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-11 Thread Blaine Borrowman
- Original Message - From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 4:43 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Terry wrote: Maybe some day, Dave Hansen will see the light, because he finally saw Jesus in David Miller. He sure

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-11 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Dave, are you there? - Original Message - From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus[Original Message] From: Blaine B

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
: - Original Message - From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 4:43 AMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Terry wrote: Maybe some day, Dave Hansen will see the light,because he finally saw Jesus in David Mil

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-10 Thread Dean Moore
- Dean: I do not see David falling for anything that the false teachers are trying to sell. He seems to be well aware that he is dealing with lost people, and is not at all surprised when lost people behave like lost people. I cannot fault him for being patient with them. Dean writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-10 Thread Dave Hansen
Dean Moore wrote: --- Maybe some day, Dave Hansen will see the light, because he finally saw Jesus in David Miller. He sure won't see it from

[TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-09 Thread David Miller
Hey there TruthTalkers. I'm way behind on keeping up with the e-mails. There are more than 100 e-mails that are not read, so forgive me if I sound like I'm not reading everything. I know I won't be catching up today or anytime within the next few days. I'm heading out of town today to meet

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-09 Thread Terry Clifton
DavidM said: . Whether or not anyone else understands it or agrees with it doesn't really matter. I have an obligation as a servant to be faithful to walk in that stewardship. I answer to God on judgment day for it, and I cannot deny what Jesus himself has said to me. To do so would be

RE: [TruthTalk] False Teachers-Dean responce.

2004-01-09 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus [Original Message] From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/9/2004 12:49:20 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] False Teachers Hey there TruthTalkers. I'm way behind on keeping up with the e-mails

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-09 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus [Original Message] From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/9/2004 1:55:35 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers DavidM said: . Whether or not anyone else understands it or agrees

Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers

2004-01-09 Thread Terry Clifton
Dean writes: Terry are you in agreement with David's view of false prophets and their acceptance? If so you had better reread your bible-and hang on to the ride that I am fixing to take you on. - Dean: I do not

Re: [TruthTalk] False teachers False prophets

2004-01-07 Thread Dave
Kevin Deegan wrote: Why do I feel like you guys are not forthcoming with information and maybe even intentional bending of the Truth?Do you expect me to believe that the "General Authorities" have NO AUTHORITY except when they say Thus saith the Lord? DAVEH: Who said that, Kevin??? I don't

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