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George Gallen wrote:
Is anyone else having
We're actually on the same page, Doug, thanks. What was on my mind is that
while everyone knows they need to diversify, too many do not actually
diversify. I know some very smart, highly expert BASIC people who have known
for many years that they need to do something beyond BASIC, but they
passively offer is assistance with hiring,
interviewing, etc. Please feel free to contact me for assistance in creating
job ads which attract the right people, and evaluating the people who respond.)
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I'm getting mails for this thread, nothing else seems to be going to
the list at the moment except for the TU.TO.EXCEL discussion last week
and the Colorado job.
http://listserver.u2ug.org/pipermail/u2-users/2013-September/date.html
Nothing like a scare about mail not getting through to stop
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From: Michael Spencer
If you know of any current offerings...
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This line caught my eye:
readlist var from 10 else then result = lower(var)
else then ?
I get it, but ... yuck. :)
T
From: Martin Phillips
Spotted a bug - I knew this would turn out to be the wrong source
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now has 12 other MV jobs listed.
Best to ya, bud.
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From: Bruce Holt
Luxury retailer has need of a UniVerse DBA
Where: Irving, TX
What UniVerse DBA (must be on site, no telecommute)
When: Now!
Why: I vacated the position
The website http://PickJobs.Net has been re-launched with a new look
and tools for matching people to work.
Read about it here:
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specifically about U2, and not a direct answer to your
question, I've posted it as a blog:
http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/tech/mv/2013/08/compete1.html
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dump everything you know into a free
web page and you'll get lots of business but there is some value
for people in efforts like this depending on how it's approached.
Anyway - am I missing something that's already in progress?
Thanks.
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From: Al DeWitt
I'm a Domain Admin so permissions is not an issue.
I understand the sentiment there but we may not be aware of the
permissions required for the operation in question, so it's tough to
know if the right permissions have not been granted.
My related experiences, dunno if this
Whoe dude, hang on. :)
The answer to the question does this exist or what do you folks
think isn't to do an install.
There are already generic resources available. We don't need yet
another wiki site with yet another login and markup language. I was
hoping we could make use of one of the
will
know whether to use id or ordnum, or whether to use elements or
attributes.
All of that said, the nature of my business is to create solutions to
problems like this. I'll be happy to do so for any company that
associates value with such solutions.
HTH
Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research
From: Eric Armstrong
I downloaded the U2 personal edition to my pc, and it is working,
but
how do I get it to use the Pick flavor?
If I care about the flavor I'll use UniAdmin to create accounts - or
whatever they call that thing now that takes 10 minutes to start up on
a system with no other
Fascinating stuff. :)
I don't like the idea of spaces being numeric but when I get data from
unknown sources I do tend to TRIM and test for NUM(x).
With the following program:
- Universe in Information flavor reports True on all tests.
- Unidata only reports 3-8 as True
- D3 does not consider any
Just adding a little more subtlety. Consider:
X = Y = 3
In some languages this sets Y to 3 and then X to Y, so X=3. But in
BASIC, as Brian said, we need to force the precedence on Y=3 before
X=Y.
In other contexts, parentheses force an equation. Consider:
SUBROUTINE FOO( X,Y,Z )
and
CALL FOO(
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Just adding a little more subtlety. Consider:
X = Y = 3
In some languages this sets Y to 3 and then X to Y, so X=3. But in
BASIC,
as Brian said, we need to force the precedence on Y=3 before X=Y.
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Has anyone figured out a way to take a file from UNIX and copy it
into
SharePoint?
Google for unix to sharepoint returns good results.
HTH
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AccuTerm adding a space into code might be an issue to report to
supp...@asent.com. I think the segfault should be addressed with
Rocket Support.
HTH
T
From: Bertrand, Ron
Interesting issue popped up a couple of days ago with Accuterms WED.
We have a program calling a subroutine that wraps to
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From: Keith Johnson
Hi Tony,
'Twas a teensy bug under an unusual circumstance... Hey, wait a
minute, you're the one who complained that no-one updated other
people's code! You wouldn't be trying to yank Will's chain, would
you?
Indeed I do comment occasionally on the proportion of takers to
of a platform/flavor where this has
not worked in the last decade?
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From: Charlie Noah
1. If POLREC6 is null, an empty value won't be inserted...
2. INSERT sometimes doesn't like delimited source
3. If POLREC6 has multivalues itself...
Charlie, you present a valid discussion of a failure with the Insert
statement, but that might not be the problem at
From: Woodward, Bob
If this occasional problem is consistently the same lines then just
validate the insert afterwards...
Dale, don't accept that solution. (Sorry Bob)
Note, we're still not really Sure yet that this is a good definition
of the problem, just a working theory...
Overall, the
Bill, at Pick Systems we occasionally saw issues like this, where the
object code would behave differently if specific statements (their
opcodes/tokens) were broken across frame boundaries. Until DBMS
patches become available, the problem could be avoided with some
carefully-placed NULL
From: David Wolverton
In UniData we also make sure the file is opened to a COMMON
variable. Makes a huge performance difference vs doing the OPEN on
every call to the subroutine.
YMMV
From: Wjhonson
I had forgotten that one!
Wow, I thought that was SOP these days across all new MV
I dunno if this is the situation here, but a Google search for dde
flush returns some hits that indicate you may need to flush the DDE
buffer before exiting. HTH
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From: Al DeWitt
We have a custom report that was written using
From: Dawn Wolthuis
We have a VAR who would prefer to load Universe and their
application on a supported platform, but we would prefer not to pay
for RHEL 6. I searched the list and found a few tidbits, but does
anyone
have a good list of what changes might be required to successfully
run
From: George Gallen
Maybe because of Pick's lack of organization enforcement - that is
one
of it's failings - it puts all the burden of documentation onto the
programmers
That's the essence of our being and arguably the strength of the
platform: RDBMS sites have DBA's separate from the
From: Robert Houben
\windows\syswow64
Rather than Windows On Windows I like to think Microsoft has built-in
World Of Warcraft.
With Microsoft typical logic this is where 32 bit versions of
commands
reside on x64. 64 bit ones are in system32.
(I know Robert is aware of why MS did the WoW
(Hey Don, I think you have your ReplyTo set, so replies to your posts
to the list go to you direct.. Resending this to list...)
I think Don is spot on - substitute time off and other consequences
for finger breaking, though the Italian in me is quite partial to the
finger solution.
It's assumed
Posted for Kevin Powick
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Fellow developers,
I'm happy to announce a new resource for MVDB developers. FOSS4MV!
FOSS4MV is a community for people that use or develop Free and Open
Source Software for MVDB platforms, such as D3, OpenQM, jBASE, U2,
Reality,
DLL. The answer is no, you don't need
that 110MB+ installer just for the one tiny DLL, and the licensing
permits the DLL to be deployed with your solution.
Regards,
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From: Symeon Breen
I have an application that is based in the UK, one of the things it
does is
allow entry of a phone number, I then determine if this is a mobile
(cell
phone) and send a text (easy in the uk as all mobiles begin with 07)
We are embarking upon our first US client (well
use the easiest and ideally lowest-cost
remedies available. Sometimes end-users tell you how they want things
to work. I'm telling you what works, which is usually what end-users
Really want.
Contact me for related solutions, including cloud-based services that
just do what you want.
HTH
Tony
to DllImport
user32.dll for this.
A search on the topic reveals many hits, including this helpful blog
with a C# solution that you should be able to tweak for your purposes:
http://bit.ly/1afWhF3
If you do Not want to do that on your own, you can email me to discuss
development services.
HTH
Tony Gravagno
From: Wjhonson
As to the point of competing only, I would suggest that most if
not all
the people who read this list, also read others, and have various
skills,
not just U2 skills. Are you suggesting that a U2 person would not
also
have skills in say... D3 ?
Yeah, I am suggesting that. But
Wow. I mean, no surprise, but ... you're nosey. :)
So salary commensurate with requirements but you'd like people to
guess at it anyway, even though we'll never know what it actually is.
That's a spectacular waste of time.
Having sat in one of the chairs for which they are advertising, and
with
Harold, I created a general-purpose solution for this a few years ago,
documented on my blog. I'd be very happy to discuss it with you next week. (out
of the office this week)
http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/2009/09/signatures01.html
Harold.Oaks wrote:
I'm sure some of you are implementing
Indeed. Typed manually on my phone. Here is the correct link. Thanks.
http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/tech/2009/09/signatures01.html
Robert Frailey wrote:
Link doesnt work
http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/2009/09/signatures01.html
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Harold, I created
From: John R. Israel
I believe new management came in and decided to totally re-write
everything is something else (SQL?)
(huge snip)
Here is an article related to the RR debacle. It was a $67Million mistake that
other companies should learn from.
products. YMMV
Please feel free to contact me for more info.
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and interfaces. YMMV.
HTH
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That's some great info but I think the Stack Overflow people would
object to their site being used as a blog/wiki by a commercial entity.
I recommend putting nice articles like that on CodeProject.com, the
company website, or PickWiki.com.
T
From: rkumar
From: George Gallen
What might be helpful, would be a little help Blurb about what
github
is, and how to use it?
You can download the e-book Git Succinctly, generously provided for
free by Syncfusion:
http://www.syncfusion.com/resources/techportal/ebooks/git
That page has a summary of the
From: Wjhonson
I'm assuming that a file you want to read into a Pick system, with
embedded MM.MM dollars is coming from an outside source. I can't
recall ever seeing 12.2 used for 12.20 outside of a Pick system.
This is weird, I've seen a few discussions within the last week where
people
There are a couple ways to prevent automatic numeric reformatting in
Excel:
1) Any value preceded by a single quote is not treated as a number and
is thus not reformatted. So a telephone number becomes '123-456-7890.
2) If the document is real Excel and not just CSV rendered in the
Excel
From: Wjhonson
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AES_implementations
Looks like no to me.
Maybe someone could write one ?
Yeah, and maybe someone could give the source away for free too, eh?
Things like this shouldn't be built into a database. The database
should call to well-maintained underlying
From: Wjhonson
Tony, the link I posted has tons of free code.
Just no MV BASIC implementation. So the tons of free code there has nothing to
do with your suggestion that someone write something new.
So giving it away for free is not anything new, although I know that
attacking that idea is
We had a discussion about his recently in the MVDBMS group.
http://groups.google.com/group/mvdbms
From: Aaron Titus
I am curious to know if anyone has
implemented revision control with git or github for Unibasic
programs,
and system builder objects. If so, how did you do it?
No, SMI was always in Des Plaines, IL.
Oak Brook was home to the McDonalds User Group (MUG) which managed
accounting for hundreds (thousands?) of McDonalds hamburger
franchises. That software was originally in RPL until it was ported to
BASIC. (I had a hand in that.)
I have a couple clients in
Brian, on my freeware page I have a Merge/Split routine. I use it to
merge Included code modules so that I can run, debug, and edit them as
a unit, then split the modules off back into their components. From
there, re-compiling all code allows the entire app to benefit from an
individual effort.
think we were able to see
everything great with AccuTerm in a character interface. It works in
D3 too. I didn't try any others.
U2 might support a better storage mechanism, so let's see what others
say. But I'll be happy to provide the C# code that does the
translation. Just email me.
HTH
Tony
*From:* symeonb
Marketing has always been about multiple ways to do predominantly the
same thing you have a newspaper campaign, poster campaign, radio,
tv, cpc ads, web banners, cold calling etc, these are just some more.
From: Bill Haskett
That isn't mostly true if you're a small
Dan, that's a great answer and the right answer and I don't mean to
take anything away from it here.
This is one of the biggest stumbling blocks for many of us in the MV
world - getting mainstream tools to work as easily with our databases
as it does with others. I spend a Lot of time doing
In addition to 7-Zip (the software, not just the compression
algorithm), consider WinRAR. They're both based on the same UnRAR
decompression. They both support multiple platforms, multiple
compression methods, multiple volumes, security, etc. I hope I don't
start a war by suggesting that anyone
to integrate with social media puts you in a
different category from traditional Pick developers and application
providers.
HTH
T
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From: Nancy Fisher
Thanks. I'm beginning to think we're having printer commands stopped
by our (accuterm) terminal interface.
Accuterm!? Heck yeah. You didn't mention that part! :) Those ESCape
sequences tell AccuTerm to do all sorts of cool stuff. You'd hope
that it's smart enough to not
General response...
This is why I love PrintWizard:
PRINT \barcode src=1234567890 style=code39\
Done!
Really. Look below. Now look above. Now think about which code you'd
rather maintain, or pay someone else to maintain, every time you get a
new printer.
Jus' sayin'...
I do not sell PrintWizard
systems. Support and enhancements are free.
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From: Robert Houben
And just to mess with your heads a bit more...
http://smallbiztrends.com/2013/03/10-reasons-business-pinterest.html
Oh dear, you seem to have provoked yet another blog. :)
http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/tech/mv/2013/03/socialmv3.html
Summary: It's not just the individual
, on its merits as a
tool for providing and receiving specific kinds of information.
Your (really really verbose, thankful, and apologetic) colleague :)
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I'm on a mini campaign to make more MV colleagues aware of the
benefits of using Twitter and other social media. Everyone is welcome
to visit my blog on the topic and to comment here or there.
http://Nebula-RnD.com/blog/tech/mv/2013/03/socialmv1.html
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From: Martin Phillips
The Nucleus product from BinaryStar
(www.binarystar.com/nucleus.html) can import SB projects. This is
the
recommended route for SB users migrating to QM and is probably
equally applicable for users migrating to other platforms supported
by
Nucleus.
Thank you my
WJ:
http://www.intersystems.com/press/2007/sc.html
http://www.casoftware.co.uk/OSMOSiS.html
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From: Tony Gravagno
I'm also aware of another product based in the UK that has excellent
tools for migrating From SB, but I don't like where they migrate To.
From: Colin
familiar looking to SB users
but there are no good conversion tools to get to that product.
I'm also aware of another product based in the UK that has excellent
tools for migrating From SB, but I don't like where they migrate To.
Thanks for your thoughts.
T
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From Wjhonson
Of all the jobs posted over the past several years, several have
asked
for SB+ experience, none have asked for any other product of that
class.
I'll respond to that here because it dove-tails with what I have
below. You don't see ads, in-part, because the sites still running the
From: Wjhonson
Not sure what you mean by saying that discontinuing support for SB
would make people migrate to U2 ?
System Builder and U2 have been married since the days of Ardent.
Not all U2 sites use it, I would suggest no more than one third of
all U2
sites have ever user System
From: Wjhonson
Thanks I never knew that history. I've been fairly focused on [what
is
now called] mvEnterprise, followed by Universe, MvBase, and then
back to Universe. So never got into the D3 stuff.
So if SB is not supported on D3, I wonder if there is a competing
product that runs
It's things like this that make me wish more MV platforms had
user-defined processor codes. U2 excels in the versatility here. I
can't use wonderful codes like this because most of my code needs to
work across platforms. Wah. :'(
T
From: Charles Stevenson
OCONV( 16507 , DYMD[4'',2'',2] )
Side comment:
I understand what Wil is saying and I think he has a valid point. But
I believe the value of the point is now insignificant. The tiny bit of
contention that Will brings up here is about just how much disk access
is done by any given process. Eliminate disk reads and the process
From: Israel, John R.
I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where
UniData lives). Can I map a VOC pointer? Other thoughts?
Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
I'm not as familiar with internals in UV/UD as with other platforms so
this may not apply - and I'm eager to understand
I'll second the vote for the wED utility in AccuTerm. In the recent
v7.1 a Lot of welcome enhancements were made which take this Far
beyond similar editors - and free with the emulator aint a bad deal
either.
I'm also quite fond of mvToolbox (http://www.mvtoolbox.com/) It's a
fabulous bit of
In the bigger picture, Fedora is a hobbyist system and changes very
rapidly. It's not meant to be used for production applications. You
could get UV to work on it this week and it will break with a core
update next week, or with some tiny dependency change or profile
setting that's tough to trace.
From: Mike McGuane
http://curl.haxx.se/docs/manpage.html
From: Phil Walker
Hi Mike,
I might be just being dumb, but how would curl help me here?
I'm, guessing he posted to the wrong thread. That's the right answer
to the question by Peter in the Consuming HTTPS service thread where
he
, and also make use of
standard web service client code to call your UO interfaces.
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Best,
T
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not so much how it works, but knowing if
it's possible to change behavior so that the runtime processes our
code the way we want.
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From: Wjhonson
Who is this in Sacramento?
I don't know of any pick companies in the Sacramento area
Dude, really? Are you serious?
Sacramento is a major metro area, state capitol city, and not only are
you surprised that there are any Pick companies there, but you think
it's worth our
I think people understand exactly what you're saying, but disagree.
Most applications don't use the more rigorous coding for having a
Locked clause that provides additional information to the user,
retries, etc. That's not wrong, it's just not necessary ...
depending on the site.
That said, when
From: Peter Cheney
How about a DICT item that performs a match like 2n'/'2n'/'2n on
that field?
Better to simply look for anything non-numeric.
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Brian, excellent point, and I'm indeed using that feature in a small JavaScript
wrapper for MV that I use. However, this is where you get into the devil in
the details. A JSON query must be POST, even if it's really just a GET
request, and once you do that there are some issues with IIS6 and
using c#. So would consuming it be any different if the web service was written
in UV as opposed to one that is an asmx web service?
From: Tony Gravagno
I have a video which shows how to create and consume ASMX web services in just
a few minutes:
http://nebula-rnd.com/products/gallery.htm
It's
I have a video which shows how to create and consume ASMX web services in just
a few minutes:
http://nebula-rnd.com/products/gallery.htm
It's using mv.NET but that's irrelevant, as that is the part that gets executed
after the web service is invoked. The call to the web service and the response
Lame question followed by an awesome response by Rajan Kumar of Rocket
Software!
From: rajank rkumar-at-rs.com
This is information for U2 Community.
Please read:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14312892/how-to-create-consume-wcf
-odata-service-restful-service-using-u2-toolkit-for
From: Daniel McGrath
It is part of U2 Toolkit for .NET 1.2, which is currently in beta (I
believe
has now invited you to the beta).
To avoid the impression that this is a new product for a very old
framework, the branding for that should probably be:
..NET U2 Toolkit v1.2
or
U2 .NET Toolkit
When WJ talks about publishing a list of MV end-users I strongly
object. But in this case I agree that a list of MV VARs and
applications is of value.
Our colleagues here are right about it not being important that MV is
the database under a new application. However there are two audiences
that
Breathing a sigh of relief. These days whenever I see someone's name
in a subject and nothing else, I immediately brace myself for an
obituary - consequences of a long career in a small and aging
community...
Good luck Wally.
T
From: Dan Goble
Congratulations on your upcoming retirement.
information in the event of your
untimely STOP/END.
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From: Gregor Scott
Of course
From: Martin Braid
I don't have time for this Give us all a break
I completely agree. This is nonsense.
And for historical accuracy and with some relevance to Pick, RPL did
and still does support one or multi-line IF just like every other
language on the planet.
So please, done
Or someone here can post to PickWiki.com which is there for Exactly
this purpose. That way if someone wants to augment the info with
better code or examples or documentation, you don't need to wait for
some company to find the resources to do it for you.
Or someone at Rocket can post to PickWiki
From: dennis bartlett
Does anybody have a working copy of BFORMAT...
To answer the question:
http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?BFormat
For printing:
http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LFormat
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From: Daniel Ruckel
Can I convince someone in this group to share their experience/s
converting D3 to UniData?
As someone who uses both platforms I'd have to ask why anyone would
want to do such a thing. I support clients and products on both
platforms - there's no big difference. As someone
One of the annoying things about this list is that when you respond to
a post it seems to go directly to the author as well as to the list.
And people tend to Reply-All when they should just Reply. Because of
this I sometimes get a direct response from the author as though I
contacted him
IMb includes POSTNET and PLANET. PrintWizard does POSTNET with a single line of
code:
PRINT barcode pointsize=20 src=:INFO: style=POSTNET
I dunno if PW supports PLANET or IMb. Bob?
But rather than full IMb, this end-user might be OK with just POSTNET, so the
solution is readily available.
A join is a join in any DBMS. In SQL you'd do something like this:
SELECT DONOR.id, PERSON.first_name, PERSON.last_name,
DONOR.given_amt, DONOR.pledge_amt, PERSON.email
FROM DONOR
INNER JOIN PERSON
ON DONOR.id=PERSON.id
WHERE PERSON.spouse_last='Smith'
ORDER BY
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