Siri Settings command

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Maybe this feature has been around for a while, but in case you don't know 
about it, I discovered recently that if you're in an app and ask Siri to open 
Settings, it opens the settings for the app you're in. So, for example, if I'm 
in Music and say, "Open Settings," Siri opens the settings for Music. This is 
not an iOS 10 feature; it also works on my 4s running iOS 9.3. Pretty cool.

Best,
Anna

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Re: Sound when sending text messages iOS10 seems to have disappeared

[Shai]

Hi Richard,
Thank you for confirming that you had the audible text message sound
present when you send a message. I just checked again now and I do
indeed have it. I do not know why I did not hear it before as I do
have the change sound with buttons off in settings and the sound
volume on the device set to a high rate.
Thanks again.


On 9/16/16, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> I still have the sound when sending text messages, but I don't find any
> separate sound setting for it.
> I'm on an iPhone 5s. Are any other sounds missing?
> Is change with buttons on in your sound settings?
> HTH,
> Richard
>
>
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Shai
> > wrote:
>
> Hello,
> In iOS10, the sound that a text message has sent seems to have
> disappeared. I liked receiving this audible indication as I knew that
> the message was successful in going out. Has anyone else noticed this
> and is there a means of turning it back on that I do not know of?
> Just as an example, this audible indication had been present in the
> previous release of iOS.
> Thank you in advance for any responses
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RE: An update on Outlook for iOS

[Cristóbal]

Glad to hear the editing VoiceOver issue has been  fixed. I may give it another 
spin with my business accounts again.

Can I ask though  if the issue in the calendar tab was also addressed?

I recall that VO was way too chatty by announcing the date ahead of each 
appointment in a day. This became quite annoying since you could already flick 
to each date via heading. Hearing  the date every single time for  every single 
appointment was just too much info.

Thanks,

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: An update on Outlook for iOS

 

Hi,

 

OK, I finally got a useful answer from a higher level of support. I reported a 
few times that I couldn't set up my personal Outlook.com email account in the 
Outlook mobile app for iOS because it kept telling me my email address or 
password were wrong. I have 2-step verification turned on for this account and 
was under the impression I had to use a so-called app specific password which 
you get by logging onto to your Microsoft account and you generate these app 
specific passwords in the security settings area. I should add that with the 
native iOS Mail app you do have to use one of these. Anyhow, this second level 
support person told me that Outlook fully supports 2-step authentication and 
all I had to do is use my email address, the normal password for my account and 
at that point the app asked me for the 6-digit security code generated by my 
authenticator app. I use the app Authy for this so I left the Outlook account 
setup screen, opened up Authy, checked which passcode it gave me (they always 
are valid for a period of 30 seconds before they expire and a new code is 
given) and I then went back to Outlook and typed it in. After that all was 
well, my Outlook.com email now works as does my business email which is an 
exchange account via Office 365 for business.

 

There is definitely also no longer any problem with typing text into the 
message body of an email and being able to review it. I would say at this point 
Outlook seems fully accessible.

 

Threads are handled differently in Outlook, it's a bit hard to explain and I 
don't have the time right now to do so, but it's all accessible.

 

One nice feature is that if you tap on the files tab you get a list of all 
available email attachments and of course you have access to your OneDrive 
folder and, if you set it up, you can also connect your Dropbox, Google Drive 
and other storage accounts.

 

One thing I have not figured out yet, if it is in fact possible is whether you 
can add/edit contacts. There is the "People" tab which shows me all the 
contacts from my business and personal email accounts, but I can't seem to find 
any place where I can edit them or add or delete contacts.

 

All  in all Outlook is a good app and very accessible, it has more 
functionality in some ways but I find it also requires a few more steps and 
taps to accomplish certain things. One thing I really like with the native mail 
app is how I can customize which mailboxes I see right away, in Outlook you can 
get to your Inbox easily, there is an All Mail option you can turn on which 
then shows you all your mail from any accounts you set up in a unified Inbox, 
but as far as I can tell you don't have the option for an Unread mailbox or to 
stick a particular folder right on your list of mailboxes. I am, for example, 
subscribed to the Woodworking for the Blind mailing list and I set up a filter 
so all messages that come from that list go into a mailbox I set up for this. 
In the native Mail app I can put this mailbox right underneath my Inbox even 
though it's hidden 3 levels down in my mail folders.

 

I am currently using the native Mail app for my personal Outlook.com email 
address and I have both my business email and personal email set up in Outlook, 
so basically I am duplicating the personal email address. I'll use it for a 
while side by side, but as much as I like Outlook for certain features, I still 
like the iOS Mail app for it's simplicity and as far as I am concerned I 
actually like this new thread/conversation feature where you use the Messages 
rotor option to flick through a conversation.

 

Anybody who thinks they would like to try Outlook should do so, the nice thing 
is that you can set it up and still continue the native mail app and you can 
then compare and decide for yourself if it's for you or not. But as I said, 
it's definitely fully accessible and a valid alternative at this point. One 
other thing I must say for this particular support team is that the response 
time if you send a support request via the Help and Feedback option in Settings 
is nothing less than astonishing. I usually have received replies within hours 
and sometimes minutes after sending in a question or replied to an existing 
support issue. It's like a chat thing where 

SNLC 800

[Lynda Ingraham]

Could somone please tell me what this means and if there is a way to have it
removed from the screen? 

 

Thank you, 

 

Lynda 

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Deleting friend requests on facebook

[Lelia]

Hi all, I have an iPhone 6 s and am running Ios 10.  For some reason the delete 
button for friend requests isn't there any more, has any one seen this and if 
so, how do you delete requests? 
Thanks in advance.  

Lelia 

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Re: "Heading not found" when it should be in the music app

[Mary Otten]

OK, Richard. Thanks. I will go hunting for it on the extreme right and see if 
it turns up.
Mary


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> On Sep 16, 2016, at 10:21 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> i have most of my music on my iPod Touch 6, and yes, I find the table index 
> just like I used too.
> I sometimes have to turn my finger tip so the nail is parallel to the edge of 
> the case right up against the right edge.
> It can be a bit finicky.  
> Richard
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> To be honest, I don't use table index is that often, so I had not noticed 
>> the reverse order. Have you found the table index on your iPod touch or your 
>> phone? I simply can't find it. I found it on my iPad, but I cannot find it 
>> on the phone.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> I reported this through the beta feedback within the first couple weeks of 
>>> the beta coming out.
>>> If you noticed, the table index, when you can find it, is upside down.
>>> Once you get into the table index, you flick up with one finger to go from 
>>> a to b, etc.
>>> Also reported.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
 I have found the following to be true on both my iPhone 6s and my iPad 
 mini two. This is running iOS 10. If you open the music app you are placed 
 in my library. Go to artists. In the phone, that's easy, just double tap 
 on the artists button. On the iPad, you have to deal with a pop up. But 
 once you're there, you will have a listing in a long column of all of the 
 artists in your library.  they are in alphabetical order, and each letter 
 of the alphabet is a heading, a, B, C, etc. However, if you try to 
 navigate by heading by setting the appropriate item in the rotor and 
 flicking down, you are  unhelpfully informed that there aren't any 
 headings. On the phone, I couldn't find the table index at all. On my 
 iPad, I did a three finger flick up to the second page of artist listings, 
 and found a table index there, which worked. But I would frankly preferred 
 to just flick I headings. I wonder why this is not working. Seems like it 
 should.
 Mary
 
 
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pictures not being described

[martinelson1]

Hello: I just installed Ios 10, and was looking forward to have my photos 
described. I find that there is no description. Am I not doing something that 
needs to be done for this to work?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Martin Nelson

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Re: Can't separate voiceover from speaker.

[Mary Otten]

It isn't working correctly on the Apple TV either. I wrote Apple about this 
last week, both with respect to iOS and it tvOS. As yet, I have gotten no 
acknowledgment of receipt of my inquiry, much less a substantive reply. I would 
therefore urge everybody else to write to accessibility and raise the same 
question. I'm sure they have lots of email with the release of all the new 
software. So maybe if more people right, will get something.
Mary

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> On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I assume that this feature isn't working correctly, I agree that currently 
> the left and right channels for sound and speech seem quite useless.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 1:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't separate voiceover from speaker.
>  
>  
> I have the same problem.  I do not know if the feature is just not working 
> correctly, or if designating the channel the sound is suppose to come out of 
> is all it is suppose to do.
> But as it is, in my opinion, it is not useful at all.
>  
> Hopefully there is something I am just not doing correctly.
>  
> Chris
>  
> 
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> 
> Hello, I understand that you can get the audio from voiceover to stay on your 
> phone but leave your music on the bluetooth speaker. However, when I try this 
> by utnselecting both channels, it won't let me do that. Does this feature not 
> work then? I got as far as hearing voiceover audio in one ear on my headset, 
> but the clicks are in both speakers. On my big Bluetooth speaker, I would 
> like to listen to the music while keeping VO audio on my phone.
> Thanks,
> Matthew
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Re: App Store and itunes

[Andy Baracco]

Well, I guess I did something right because that message has not returned and i 
have not had problems downloading apps.

Andy

From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: App Store and itunes
Hi all 

That message and agreement seems to be appearing regardless of whether you've 
updated or not. I've not updated my IPhone yet and the message still came up 
when I went to update some apps. The agree button was just at the bottom of the 
screen and wasn't a problem to find. 

Eleanor 

Sent from my iPad

On 17 Sep 2016, at 00:05, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


  For me the Agree button was right there at the bottom of the screen without 
even scrolling down to the last page. You can also try a 4-finger tap near the 
bottom of the screen.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 3:55 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: App Store and itunes

   

  Hi Andy,
  I got that big fat agreement as well, but in my case, I had the form controls 
setting in the rotor and set to it and then flick and found a disagree button. 
At that point flicking either to the right or the left, I forget which, found 
an agree button which I double tapped and presto.
  Mary


  Sent from my iPhone


  On Sep 16, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

I have an iPhone 6 and when attempting to update apps I got a message 
saying iTunes conditions and terms have changed, and it gave a Cancel or Ok 
button. I hit OK and was presented with a 24 page license agreement. There was 
no way to go directly to the end, so I paged through the entire thing. After 
reading page 24 I could not find an agree button. There was a Next Page button 
but when double tapping it, nothing happened. This situation existed before and 
after the update to IOS 10, so that is not an issue. Incidentally, the update 
to 10 went without a hitch. Has anyone encountered this issue with the app 
store and how did you agree to the license agreement?

 

Andy

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Re: Muffled Voiceover

[Anthony Vece]

I've seen backups get corrupted.
It happened to me and, its quite a headache.


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> On Sep 17, 2016, at 6:32 PM, Brandon Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone.
> 
> I ended up doing a settings reset. That seemed to fix it. My guess is that 
> something was in the settings restored from the iPhone 6 that messed with the 
> new phone somehow.
> 
> Brandon
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Antonio Guimaraes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> When this happens with me, I press the power button quickly about ten times. 
>> the phone will go off and come back alive in about ten seconds without the 
>> muffled speech.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> My wife just got her iPhone 7. It sounded okay at first, but in the middle 
>>> of setup, she received a phone call.
>>> 
>>> Now the voice sounds muffled, as though she’s on the phone and on speaker.
>>> 
>>> We’ve tried restarting the phone, and several other things, but it isn’t 
>>> working. Any idea what I could do?
>>> 
>>> Brandon
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RE: Message Effects do Work, here's how!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hmm, interesting, I have to get my wife to send me a message again. I 
definitely have reduced motion off since otherwise you can't even seem to get 
to the options available for sending a message with effects.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Message Effects do Work, here's how!

Actually Sieghard,
I sent myself a text with the fireworks image from my touch to my iPhone and I 
heard the fireworks sound when I opened the message on the phone.
I have reduce motion off on both and VoiceOver running on both, of course.

Richard


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Subject: RE: Message Effects do Work, here's how!

Yes, you hear the effect when it's sent and the recipient hears/sees it if they 
are not running Voiceover. But as far as I can tell you do not get any 
visual/audio effects if you receive a message with said effect and if Voiceover 
is on. In this case you just gett he description.


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Subject: Re: Message Effects do Work, here's how!


Hi!

I could hear the fireworks and lasers after I send them and I have confirmation 
fireworks could be heard on the other side. I also hear VO description. Maybe 
this is because I don't use Audio Ducking.



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16.9.2016. u 23:36, Sieghard Weitzel je napisao/la:
A nice summary and description, Chris, just wanted to add to this that if 
Voiceover is running the effects don't actually play when a message is received 
but instead you get the description as Chris described. I was sending messages 
to my wife who was right next to me and I still had Voiceover on and was 
wondering why the fireworks and so on didn't play, then as soon as we turned 
off Voiceover all was as it should be.
It also seems that once the message is received that if you go back to it in 
the conversation it no longers has the effect description.

Lastly, my wife sent me a message where she used handwriting as I was curious 
as to what Voiceover would do with that. She just wrote "Hi" and Voiceover said 
the message had handwriting and "2 strokes".
I then tried it and wrote something and Voiceover said it had 9 strokes, but of 
course there is no way for Voiceover to figure out what it says which is 
expected.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: Message Effects do Work, here's how!

Thanks Chris.


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On Sep 15, 2016, at 10:05 PM, Chris Chaffin 
> wrote:

OK, I am running iOS 10 on an iPhone 6, and message effects works fine for me.
The way I tested it, and to see what it is like, is I sent messages to myself.  
I know, boring, but it works!! :)

To get message effects to work, just do a double tap and hold on the send 
button and a pop up window will appear.  Now there is no sound with the pop up 
window, and sometimes voice over does not focus on it, but if you explore the 
screen a little, then try swiping left or right, you will find yourself in the 
effects window.
Now there is two types of effects, bubbles and screen.  Bubbles are selected by 
default.  If you land on bubbles, you will notice that voice over says, bubbles 
selected, one of two.
Now there is three or four different bubbles to choose from, Slam, loud, 
gentle, and one more that I can not remember, smiles!  I sent myself a test 
message with a slam bubble effect, when the message came in, voice over said 
something like, a message from Chris comes slamming in with dust flying up 
around it.  So voice over does describe the effect, so that is pretty cool!!

Now, in the pop up window, if you swipe one time past bubbles, you will hear 
screen.  This is the second type of effect, so just double tap it to bring up 
the screen choices.
Now if you swipe right you will come to the first of five screen choices, 
balloons.  This is a button, so just double tap it to send the balloon effect 
with your message.
If you swipe past balloons, first is a close 

An update on Outlook for iOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi,

OK, I finally got a useful answer from a higher level of support. I reported a 
few times that I couldn't set up my personal Outlook.com email account in the 
Outlook mobile app for iOS because it kept telling me my email address or 
password were wrong. I have 2-step verification turned on for this account and 
was under the impression I had to use a so-called app specific password which 
you get by logging onto to your Microsoft account and you generate these app 
specific passwords in the security settings area. I should add that with the 
native iOS Mail app you do have to use one of these. Anyhow, this second level 
support person told me that Outlook fully supports 2-step authentication and 
all I had to do is use my email address, the normal password for my account and 
at that point the app asked me for the 6-digit security code generated by my 
authenticator app. I use the app Authy for this so I left the Outlook account 
setup screen, opened up Authy, checked which passcode it gave me (they always 
are valid for a period of 30 seconds before they expire and a new code is 
given) and I then went back to Outlook and typed it in. After that all was 
well, my Outlook.com email now works as does my business email which is an 
exchange account via Office 365 for business.

There is definitely also no longer any problem with typing text into the 
message body of an email and being able to review it. I would say at this point 
Outlook seems fully accessible.

Threads are handled differently in Outlook, it's a bit hard to explain and I 
don't have the time right now to do so, but it's all accessible.

One nice feature is that if you tap on the files tab you get a list of all 
available email attachments and of course you have access to your OneDrive 
folder and, if you set it up, you can also connect your Dropbox, Google Drive 
and other storage accounts.

One thing I have not figured out yet, if it is in fact possible is whether you 
can add/edit contacts. There is the "People" tab which shows me all the 
contacts from my business and personal email accounts, but I can't seem to find 
any place where I can edit them or add or delete contacts.

All  in all Outlook is a good app and very accessible, it has more 
functionality in some ways but I find it also requires a few more steps and 
taps to accomplish certain things. One thing I really like with the native mail 
app is how I can customize which mailboxes I see right away, in Outlook you can 
get to your Inbox easily, there is an All Mail option you can turn on which 
then shows you all your mail from any accounts you set up in a unified Inbox, 
but as far as I can tell you don't have the option for an Unread mailbox or to 
stick a particular folder right on your list of mailboxes. I am, for example, 
subscribed to the Woodworking for the Blind mailing list and I set up a filter 
so all messages that come from that list go into a mailbox I set up for this. 
In the native Mail app I can put this mailbox right underneath my Inbox even 
though it's hidden 3 levels down in my mail folders.

I am currently using the native Mail app for my personal Outlook.com email 
address and I have both my business email and personal email set up in Outlook, 
so basically I am duplicating the personal email address. I'll use it for a 
while side by side, but as much as I like Outlook for certain features, I still 
like the iOS Mail app for it's simplicity and as far as I am concerned I 
actually like this new thread/conversation feature where you use the Messages 
rotor option to flick through a conversation.

Anybody who thinks they would like to try Outlook should do so, the nice thing 
is that you can set it up and still continue the native mail app and you can 
then compare and decide for yourself if it's for you or not. But as I said, 
it's definitely fully accessible and a valid alternative at this point. One 
other thing I must say for this particular support team is that the response 
time if you send a support request via the Help and Feedback option in Settings 
is nothing less than astonishing. I usually have received replies within hours 
and sometimes minutes after sending in a question or replied to an existing 
support issue. It's like a chat thing where you see your initial request and 
all their responses and your responses, very nice.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Muffled Voiceover

[Brandon Olivares]

Thanks everyone.

I ended up doing a settings reset. That seemed to fix it. My guess is that 
something was in the settings restored from the iPhone 6 that messed with the 
new phone somehow.

Brandon
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Antonio Guimaraes  
> wrote:
> 
> When this happens with me, I press the power button quickly about ten times. 
> the phone will go off and come back alive in about ten seconds without the 
> muffled speech.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> My wife just got her iPhone 7. It sounded okay at first, but in the middle 
>> of setup, she received a phone call.
>> 
>> Now the voice sounds muffled, as though she’s on the phone and on speaker.
>> 
>> We’ve tried restarting the phone, and several other things, but it isn’t 
>> working. Any idea what I could do?
>> 
>> Brandon
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RE: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Richard Turner]

Well, it showed up every time while I tested this with predictive on, but never 
shows up for me with predictive off.
But, since I am done testing it, I turned predictive off as I don’t like it 
being on and don’t intend to send any text messages with Emojis instead of 
words.

I hope you can get it working for you.

Richard


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Donna
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

Richard

The article you shared stated that predictive text (settings, general, 
keyboards) has to be turned on. This can't be accurate because I have 
predictive text off. Sometimes I can get the emogi replacement feature to work 
and other times it doesn't even if there is a replacement emogi available.

Donna

Hi, so how does one do it, when they use braille screen input, particularly 
when they sometimes show up? I'm sorry, but we're still missing something here.



Sent from a Braille Sense

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To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
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Date: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:38 pm
Subject: RE: imoje's as replacement for words... how?




I found a page that was written during the beta cycle.  Those who are not 
finding the Emoji suggestions or the Emoji item in the rotor, like me, probably 
had predictive text turned off in the keyboard settings.  Here is a good chunk 
of the page.  I put the link to the entire article at the end.

How do you get emoji recommendations in iMessage?

If you're running iOS 10, Apple's predictive QuickType keyboard can suggest 
emoji as well as, you know, regular words. The predictive keyboard has to be 
turned on in Settings, and can't be hidden.
1. Start typing in the iMessage text field.
2. Tap any emoji predictions that show up in the prediction bar. If 
multiple predictions show up, tap the one you prefer.
3. Tap the Send button. (Looks like an upward arrow)
Emoji predictions will show up whenever you type something that has a 
corresponding emoji. For example, "I'm happy" will predict "I'm [smiley face]". 
"My car" will suggest the "[car]" emoji.
How do you emojify an iMessage?
With iOS 10, "emojification" works similarly to emoji recommendations.
1. Type an iMessage text field.
2. Tap the Emoji button on the keyboard.

3. Tap on a word that's underlined in yellow to replace it with its 
corresponding emoji.
4. Keep tapping words underlined in yellow until you've "emojified" 
everything you want.
5. Tap the Send button. (Looks like an upward arrow)

With emojification, you can convert as many - or as few - words to emoji as you 
like.
How do you react with an emoji Tapback in iMessage?
Emoji aren't just for replying in iOS 10, they're also for reacting. Apple 
calls them Tapbacks. They're similar to Slack or Facebook emoji reactions, and 
drop right onto any iMessage bubble sent your way.
1. Touch and hold (long press) on an iMessage sent your way.
2. Tap the Tapback you want to send: Heart, thumbs up, thumbs down, Ha ha, 
!!, or ?.

There's no need to hit send, the emoji reaction goes immediately.
What do the new Tapback emoji reactions mean?
Currently, in the iOS 10 beta, the following Tapback emoji are available:
. Heart: Like, love, or fav
. Thumbs up: Happy, approve, or agree
. Thumbs down: Sad, disapprove, or disagree
. Ha ha: Laugh, either happily or sarcastically.
. !!: Exclaim emphatically.
. ?: Question.
How do you change the emoji reaction Tapback in iMessage?
If you reply with the wrong Tapback, or you later decide you want a different 
Tapback, you can easily make the change.
1. Touch and hold (long press) on an iMessage with the Tapback you want to 
change.
2. Tap the Tapback you want to change to: Heart, thumbs up, thumbs down, Ha 
ha, !, or ?.

The new Tapback will take the place of the old one.
How do you delete the emoji reaction Tapback in iMessage?
If you accidentally send a Tapback, or have simply reconsider sending one, you 
can also remove it.
1. Touch a Tapback that you wish to remove.
2. Tap the Tapback you want to remove (i.e. if you want to remove Heart, 
tap Heart.)

The Tapback will disappear.
Do the 3x emoji and Tapbacks work on the Mac?
Sure do! With macOS Sierra you can send and receive both the new 3x emoji and 
the Tapbacks, right from the Mac.


http://www.imore.com/how-use-emoji-and-tapbacks-imessage-ios-10

HTH,
Richard

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RE: Message Effects do Work, here's how!

[Richard Turner]

Actually Sieghard,
I sent myself a text with the fireworks image from my touch to my iPhone and I 
heard the fireworks sound when I opened the message on the phone.
I have reduce motion off on both and VoiceOver running on both, of course.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Message Effects do Work, here's how!

Yes, you hear the effect when it's sent and the recipient hears/sees it if they 
are not running Voiceover. But as far as I can tell you do not get any 
visual/audio effects if you receive a message with said effect and if Voiceover 
is on. In this case you just gett he description.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordan Radic
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message Effects do Work, here's how!


Hi!

I could hear the fireworks and lasers after I send them and I have confirmation 
fireworks could be heard on the other side. I also hear VO description. Maybe 
this is because I don't use Audio Ducking.



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16.9.2016. u 23:36, Sieghard Weitzel je napisao/la:
A nice summary and description, Chris, just wanted to add to this that if 
Voiceover is running the effects don't actually play when a message is received 
but instead you get the description as Chris described. I was sending messages 
to my wife who was right next to me and I still had Voiceover on and was 
wondering why the fireworks and so on didn't play, then as soon as we turned 
off Voiceover all was as it should be.
It also seems that once the message is received that if you go back to it in 
the conversation it no longers has the effect description.

Lastly, my wife sent me a message where she used handwriting as I was curious 
as to what Voiceover would do with that. She just wrote "Hi" and Voiceover said 
the message had handwriting and "2 strokes".
I then tried it and wrote something and Voiceover said it had 9 strokes, but of 
course there is no way for Voiceover to figure out what it says which is 
expected.


Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenifer Barr
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message Effects do Work, here's how!

Thanks Chris.


Jenifer Barr
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On Sep 15, 2016, at 10:05 PM, Chris Chaffin 
> wrote:

OK, I am running iOS 10 on an iPhone 6, and message effects works fine for me.
The way I tested it, and to see what it is like, is I sent messages to myself.  
I know, boring, but it works!! :)

To get message effects to work, just do a double tap and hold on the send 
button and a pop up window will appear.  Now there is no sound with the pop up 
window, and sometimes voice over does not focus on it, but if you explore the 
screen a little, then try swiping left or right, you will find yourself in the 
effects window.
Now there is two types of effects, bubbles and screen.  Bubbles are selected by 
default.  If you land on bubbles, you will notice that voice over says, bubbles 
selected, one of two.
Now there is three or four different bubbles to choose from, Slam, loud, 
gentle, and one more that I can not remember, smiles!  I sent myself a test 
message with a slam bubble effect, when the message came in, voice over said 
something like, a message from Chris comes slamming in with dust flying up 
around it.  So voice over does describe the effect, so that is pretty cool!!

Now, in the pop up window, if you swipe one time past bubbles, you will hear 
screen.  This is the second type of effect, so just double tap it to bring up 
the screen choices.
Now if you swipe right you will come to the first of five screen choices, 
balloons.  This is a button, so just double tap it to send the balloon effect 
with your message.
If you swipe past balloons, first is a close button, then you will find a 
counter, and it will say, one of five.  To move between the different screen 
effects, just flick up or down with one finger.
As screen effects you have, balloons, confetti, lasers, fireworks, and shooting 
star.

Now I know these effects might not work perfect, but since they are very 
graphical in nature, I think it is pretty cool that not only can we send the 
effects, but voice over also describes the effects when the message comes in.  
Thank you Apple for including accessibility!
Now I will only mention one more thing.

When 

RE: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Richard Turner]

I doubt it is the phone, there must be another setting that causes differences 
because if predictive is off on my phone or touch, the that option never 
appears.
And, I don’t use predictive text, other than for testing this.
I’m not worried about it because I won’t be sending text messages with emojis 
in place of words.  I was just trying to help.

I personally think it is a bit annoying to have emoji descriptions in the 
middle of sentences.

But, that is just me.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?


Richard, this might solve your problem, but I just checked my settings and my 
predictive text is turned off.
I just tried it again, and this is what I did:

1, Opened a new message and addressed it to myself for testing purposes.
2, Entered the phrase, I love pizza!!.
3, Went and selected the emoji keyboard.
4, I checked my rotor and I was at the emoji choice.  I then just flicked my 
finger down, and it moves between the words that have emoji replacements.

Now voice over did not give me any feedback once I changed to the emoji 
keyboard.  I did not know that focus was in the text box and emoji was chosen 
on my rotor without checking.
I do not know if different phones will act a little different, but I am using 
an iPhone 6.

Chris


On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:38 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
I found a page that was written during the beta cycle.  Those who are not 
finding the Emoji suggestions or the Emoji item in the rotor, like me, probably 
had predictive text turned off in the keyboard settings.  Here is a good chunk 
of the page.  I put the link to the entire article at the end.

How do you get emoji recommendations in iMessage?

If you're running iOS 10, Apple's predictive QuickType keyboard can suggest 
emoji as well as, you know, regular words. The predictive keyboard has to be 
turned on in 
Settings,
 and can't be 
hidden.
1.   Start typing in the iMessage text field.
2.   Tap any emoji predictions that show up in the prediction bar. If 
multiple predictions show up, tap the one you prefer.
3.   Tap the Send button. (Looks like an upward arrow)
Emoji predictions will show up whenever you type something that has a 
corresponding emoji. For example, "I'm happy" will predict "I'm [smiley face]". 
"My car" will suggest the "[car]" emoji.
How do you emojify an iMessage?
With iOS 10, "emojification" works similarly to emoji recommendations.
1.   Type an iMessage text field.
2.   Tap the Emoji button on the keyboard.

3.   Tap on a word that's underlined in yellow to replace it with its 
corresponding emoji.
4.   Keep tapping words underlined in yellow until you've "emojified" 
everything you want.
5.   Tap the Send button. (Looks like an upward arrow)

With emojification, you can convert as many — or as few — words to emoji as you 
like.
How do you react with an emoji Tapback in iMessage?
Emoji aren't just for replying in iOS 10, they're also for reacting. Apple 
calls them Tapbacks. They're similar to Slack or Facebook emoji reactions, and 
drop right onto any iMessage bubble sent your way.
1.   Touch and hold (long press) on an iMessage sent your way.
2.   Tap the Tapback you want to send: Heart, thumbs up, thumbs down, Ha 
ha, !!, or ?.

There's no need to hit send, the emoji reaction goes immediately.
What do the new Tapback emoji reactions mean?
Currently, in the iOS 10 beta, the following Tapback emoji are available:
· Heart: Like, love, or fav
· Thumbs up: Happy, approve, or agree
· Thumbs down: Sad, disapprove, or disagree
· Ha ha: Laugh, either happily or sarcastically.
· !!: Exclaim emphatically.
· ?: Question.
How do you change the emoji reaction Tapback in iMessage?
If you reply with the wrong Tapback, or you later decide you want a different 
Tapback, you can easily make the change.
1.   Touch and hold (long press) on an iMessage with the Tapback you want 
to change.
2.   Tap the Tapback you want to change to: Heart, thumbs up, thumbs down, 
Ha ha, !, or ?.

The new Tapback will take the place of the old one.
How do you delete the emoji reaction Tapback in iMessage?
If you accidentally send a Tapback, or have simply reconsider sending one, you 
can also remove it.
1.   Touch a Tapback that you wish to remove.
2.   Tap the Tapback you want to remove (i.e. if you want to remove Heart, 
tap Heart.)

The Tapback will disappear.
Do the 3x emoji and Tapbacks work on the Mac?
Sure do! With macOS Sierra you can send and receive both the new 3x emoji and 
the Tapbacks, right from the Mac.

RE: Message Effects do Work, here's how!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, you hear the effect when it's sent and the recipient hears/sees it if they 
are not running Voiceover. But as far as I can tell you do not get any 
visual/audio effects if you receive a message with said effect and if Voiceover 
is on. In this case you just gett he description.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordan Radic
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message Effects do Work, here's how!


Hi!

I could hear the fireworks and lasers after I send them and I have confirmation 
fireworks could be heard on the other side. I also hear VO description. Maybe 
this is because I don't use Audio Ducking.



S poštovanjem
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16.9.2016. u 23:36, Sieghard Weitzel je napisao/la:
A nice summary and description, Chris, just wanted to add to this that if 
Voiceover is running the effects don't actually play when a message is received 
but instead you get the description as Chris described. I was sending messages 
to my wife who was right next to me and I still had Voiceover on and was 
wondering why the fireworks and so on didn't play, then as soon as we turned 
off Voiceover all was as it should be.
It also seems that once the message is received that if you go back to it in 
the conversation it no longers has the effect description.

Lastly, my wife sent me a message where she used handwriting as I was curious 
as to what Voiceover would do with that. She just wrote "Hi" and Voiceover said 
the message had handwriting and "2 strokes".
I then tried it and wrote something and Voiceover said it had 9 strokes, but of 
course there is no way for Voiceover to figure out what it says which is 
expected.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenifer Barr
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message Effects do Work, here's how!

Thanks Chris.


Jenifer Barr
Jenifer571 on dice world
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2016, at 10:05 PM, Chris Chaffin 
> wrote:

OK, I am running iOS 10 on an iPhone 6, and message effects works fine for me.
The way I tested it, and to see what it is like, is I sent messages to myself.  
I know, boring, but it works!! :)

To get message effects to work, just do a double tap and hold on the send 
button and a pop up window will appear.  Now there is no sound with the pop up 
window, and sometimes voice over does not focus on it, but if you explore the 
screen a little, then try swiping left or right, you will find yourself in the 
effects window.
Now there is two types of effects, bubbles and screen.  Bubbles are selected by 
default.  If you land on bubbles, you will notice that voice over says, bubbles 
selected, one of two.
Now there is three or four different bubbles to choose from, Slam, loud, 
gentle, and one more that I can not remember, smiles!  I sent myself a test 
message with a slam bubble effect, when the message came in, voice over said 
something like, a message from Chris comes slamming in with dust flying up 
around it.  So voice over does describe the effect, so that is pretty cool!!

Now, in the pop up window, if you swipe one time past bubbles, you will hear 
screen.  This is the second type of effect, so just double tap it to bring up 
the screen choices.
Now if you swipe right you will come to the first of five screen choices, 
balloons.  This is a button, so just double tap it to send the balloon effect 
with your message.
If you swipe past balloons, first is a close button, then you will find a 
counter, and it will say, one of five.  To move between the different screen 
effects, just flick up or down with one finger.
As screen effects you have, balloons, confetti, lasers, fireworks, and shooting 
star.

Now I know these effects might not work perfect, but since they are very 
graphical in nature, I think it is pretty cool that not only can we send the 
effects, but voice over also describes the effects when the message comes in.  
Thank you Apple for including accessibility!
Now I will only mention one more thing.

When you receive a message, if you flick up or down with one finger on the 
message, within the choices will be react.  If you double tap on react, it lets 
you send a reply back with your reaction to the message.  When you double tap 
on react, a pop up menu will appear with different reaction choices like, red 
heart for love the message, thumbs up, thumbs down, and more.  To send your 
reaction, all you have to do is to double tap on your choice and it is 

RE: Getting rid of unnecessary mailboxes such as all unread, all drafts, ETC.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, Voiceover does not say if a mailbox is selected for display or not. Of 
course this is fairly minor since you can see what mailboxes you have showing 
before you tap on edit, then double tapping those you don't want or those you 
didn't see and do want should work.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 10:27 AM
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: Re: Getting rid of unnecessary mailboxes such as all unread, all 
drafts, ETC.

So, I've figured out what's going on. It turns out that VoiceOver isn't 
reporting whether a mailbox has been selected or not when tapping on it  after 
entering edit mode. Can other people confirm this, in case it's just my phone 
beinn weird?


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:56 PM, 
englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
In iOS 9, I used to be able to tap on edit in the list of mailboxes and delete 
the mailboxes I didn't want to see. In iOS 10, I can no longer do this. Can I 
get rid of them, or am I stuck with them?


Thanks,
Ari
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RE: Can't separate voiceover from speaker.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I assume that this feature isn't working correctly, I agree that currently the 
left and right channels for sound and speech seem quite useless.


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Chris Chaffin
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Subject: Re: Can't separate voiceover from speaker.


I have the same problem.  I do not know if the feature is just not working 
correctly, or if designating the channel the sound is suppose to come out of is 
all it is suppose to do.
But as it is, in my opinion, it is not useful at all.

Hopefully there is something I am just not doing correctly.

Chris


On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Matthew Bullis 
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Hello, I understand that you can get the audio from voiceover to stay on your 
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by utnselecting both channels, it won't let me do that. Does this feature not 
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Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Donna]

Richard

The article you shared stated that predictive text (settings, general, 
keyboards) has to be turned on. This can't be accurate because I have 
predictive text off. Sometimes I can get the emogi replacement feature to work 
and other times it doesn't even if there is a replacement emogi available. 

Donna
> 
> Hi, so how does one do it, when they use braille screen input, particularly 
> when they sometimes show up? I'm sorry, but we're still missing something 
> here. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner  
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> Date: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:38 pm
> Subject: RE: imoje's as replacement for words... how?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I found a page that was written during the beta cycle.  Those who are not 
>> finding the Emoji suggestions or the Emoji item in the rotor, like me, 
>> probably had predictive text turned off in the keyboard settings.  Here is a 
>> good chunk of the page.  I put the link to the entire article at the end.
>> 
>> How do you get emoji recommendations in iMessage?
>> 
>> If you're running iOS 10, Apple's predictive QuickType keyboard can suggest 
>> emoji as well as, you know, regular words. The predictive keyboard has to be 
>> turned on in Settings, and can't be hidden.
>> 1. Start typing in the iMessage text field.
>> 2. Tap any emoji predictions that show up in the prediction bar. If 
>> multiple predictions show up, tap the one you prefer.
>> 3. Tap the Send button. (Looks like an upward arrow)
>> Emoji predictions will show up whenever you type something that has a 
>> corresponding emoji. For example, "I'm happy" will predict "I'm [smiley 
>> face]". "My car" will suggest the "[car]" emoji.
>> How do you emojify an iMessage?
>> With iOS 10, "emojification" works similarly to emoji recommendations.
>> 1. Type an iMessage text field.
>> 2. Tap the Emoji button on the keyboard.
>> 
>> 3. Tap on a word that's underlined in yellow to replace it with its 
>> corresponding emoji.
>> 4. Keep tapping words underlined in yellow until you've "emojified" 
>> everything you want.
>> 5. Tap the Send button. (Looks like an upward arrow)
>> 
>> With emojification, you can convert as many - or as few - words to emoji as 
>> you like.
>> How do you react with an emoji Tapback in iMessage?
>> Emoji aren't just for replying in iOS 10, they're also for reacting. Apple 
>> calls them Tapbacks. They're similar to Slack or Facebook emoji reactions, 
>> and drop right onto any iMessage bubble sent your way.
>> 1. Touch and hold (long press) on an iMessage sent your way.
>> 2. Tap the Tapback you want to send: Heart, thumbs up, thumbs down, Ha 
>> ha, !!, or ?.
>> 
>> There's no need to hit send, the emoji reaction goes immediately.
>> What do the new Tapback emoji reactions mean?
>> Currently, in the iOS 10 beta, the following Tapback emoji are available:
>> . Heart: Like, love, or fav
>> . Thumbs up: Happy, approve, or agree
>> . Thumbs down: Sad, disapprove, or disagree
>> . Ha ha: Laugh, either happily or sarcastically.
>> . !!: Exclaim emphatically.
>> . ?: Question.
>> How do you change the emoji reaction Tapback in iMessage?
>> If you reply with the wrong Tapback, or you later decide you want a 
>> different Tapback, you can easily make the change.
>> 1. Touch and hold (long press) on an iMessage with the Tapback you want 
>> to change.
>> 2. Tap the Tapback you want to change to: Heart, thumbs up, thumbs down, 
>> Ha ha, !, or ?.
>> 
>> The new Tapback will take the place of the old one.
>> How do you delete the emoji reaction Tapback in iMessage?
>> If you accidentally send a Tapback, or have simply reconsider sending one, 
>> you can also remove it.
>> 1. Touch a Tapback that you wish to remove.
>> 2. Tap the Tapback you want to remove (i.e. if you want to remove Heart, 
>> tap Heart.)
>> 
>> The Tapback will disappear.
>> Do the 3x emoji and Tapbacks work on the Mac?
>> Sure do! With macOS Sierra you can send and receive both the new 3x emoji 
>> and the Tapbacks, right from the Mac.
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.imore.com/how-use-emoji-and-tapbacks-imessage-ios-10
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Richard
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Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Donna]

I can confirm that predictive text has nothing to do with emogis within 
messages. I have predictive text turned off. Sometimes the emogi works and 
sometimes it doesn't. Maybe this is a voiceover bug being the problem isn't 
consistant. Don't have a sighted friend who is using IOS 10. 

Donna
> 
> 
> Richard, this might solve your problem, but I just checked my settings and my 
> predictive text is turned off.
> I just tried it again, and this is what I did:
> 
> 1, Opened a new message and addressed it to myself for testing purposes.
> 2, Entered the phrase, I love pizza!!.
> 3, Went and selected the emoji keyboard.
> 4, I checked my rotor and I was at the emoji choice.  I then just flicked my 
> finger down, and it moves between the words that have emoji replacements.
> 
> Now voice over did not give me any feedback once I changed to the emoji 
> keyboard.  I did not know that focus was in the text box and emoji was chosen 
> on my rotor without checking.
> I do not know if different phones will act a little different, but I am using 
> an iPhone 6.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:38 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I found a page that was written during the beta cycle.  Those who are not 
>> finding the Emoji suggestions or the Emoji item in the rotor, like me, 
>> probably had predictive text turned off in the keyboard settings.  Here is a 
>> good chunk of the page.  I put the link to the entire article at the end.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> How do you get emoji recommendations in iMessage?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you're running iOS 10, Apple's predictive QuickType keyboard can suggest 
>> emoji as well as, you know, regular words. The predictive keyboard has to be 
>> turned on in Settings, and can't be hidden.
>> 
>> 1. Start typing in the iMessage text field.
>> 2. Tap any emoji predictions that show up in the prediction bar. If 
>> multiple predictions show up, tap the one you prefer.
>> 3. Tap the Send button. (Looks like an upward arrow)
>> Emoji predictions will show up whenever you type something that has a 
>> corresponding emoji. For example, "I'm happy" will predict "I'm [smiley 
>> face]". "My car" will suggest the "[car]" emoji.
>> 
>> How do you emojify an iMessage?
>> 
>> With iOS 10, "emojification" works similarly to emoji recommendations.
>> 
>> 1. Type an iMessage text field.
>> 2. Tap the Emoji button on the keyboard.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 3. Tap on a word that's underlined in yellow to replace it with its 
>> corresponding emoji.
>> 
>> 4. Keep tapping words underlined in yellow until you've "emojified" 
>> everything you want.
>> 5. Tap the Send button. (Looks like an upward arrow)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> With emojification, you can convert as many — or as few — words to emoji as 
>> you like.
>> 
>> How do you react with an emoji Tapback in iMessage?
>> 
>> Emoji aren't just for replying in iOS 10, they're also for reacting. Apple 
>> calls them Tapbacks. They're similar to Slack or Facebook emoji reactions, 
>> and drop right onto any iMessage bubble sent your way.
>> 
>> 1. Touch and hold (long press) on an iMessage sent your way.
>> 2. Tap the Tapback you want to send: Heart, thumbs up, thumbs down, Ha 
>> ha, !!, or ?.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> There's no need to hit send, the emoji reaction goes immediately.
>> 
>> What do the new Tapback emoji reactions mean?
>> 
>> Currently, in the iOS 10 beta, the following Tapback emoji are available:
>> 
>> · Heart: Like, love, or fav
>> · Thumbs up: Happy, approve, or agree
>> · Thumbs down: Sad, disapprove, or disagree
>> · Ha ha: Laugh, either happily or sarcastically.
>> · !!: Exclaim emphatically.
>> · ?: Question.
>> How do you change the emoji reaction Tapback in iMessage?
>> 
>> If you reply with the wrong Tapback, or you later decide you want a 
>> different Tapback, you can easily make the change.
>> 
>> 1. Touch and hold (long press) on an iMessage with the Tapback you want 
>> to change.
>> 2. Tap the Tapback you want to change to: Heart, thumbs up, thumbs down, 
>> Ha ha, !, or ?.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The new Tapback will take the place of the old one.
>> 
>> How do you delete the emoji reaction Tapback in iMessage?
>> 
>> If you accidentally send a Tapback, or have simply reconsider sending one, 
>> you can also remove it.
>> 
>> 1. Touch a Tapback that you wish to remove.
>> 2. Tap the Tapback you want to remove (i.e. if you want to remove Heart, 
>> tap Heart.)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Tapback will disappear.
>> 
>> Do the 3x emoji and Tapbacks work on the Mac?
>> 
>> Sure do! With macOS Sierra you can send and receive both the new 3x emoji 
>> and the Tapbacks, right from the Mac.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> http://www.imore.com/how-use-emoji-and-tapbacks-imessage-ios-10
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>>  
>> 
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RE: "Heading not found" when it should be in the music app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is definitely buggy, I used to be able to turn the rotor to headings and 
go to a particular letter in the alphabet this way with my library set to 
artists or albums. Now it goes 2 or 3 or 4 letters, e.g. I may get to go from A 
to B to C and then it says heading not found. If I select an artist that starts 
with C I can again flick to D and E and then again "heading not found".

Also, yes, the table index is there on the very right side on my 6S Plus, but 
Richard is correct, you have to flick up to go from A to B to C etc. I'll 
definitely report this to Apple Accessibility.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 5:24 PM
To: VIPhone 'ChalmersAS' via ; 
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: "Heading not found" when it should be in the music app

I have found the following to be true on both my iPhone 6s and my iPad mini 
two. This is running iOS 10. If you open the music app you are placed in my 
library. Go to artists. In the phone, that's easy, just double tap on the 
artists button. On the iPad, you have to deal with a pop up. But once you're 
there, you will have a listing in a long column of all of the artists in your 
library.  they are in alphabetical order, and each letter of the alphabet is a 
heading, a, B, C, etc. However, if you try to navigate by heading by setting 
the appropriate item in the rotor and flicking down, you are  unhelpfully 
informed that there aren't any headings. On the phone, I couldn't find the 
table index at all. On my iPad, I did a three finger flick up to the second 
page of artist listings, and found a table index there, which worked. But I 
would frankly preferred to just flick I headings. I wonder why this is not 
working. Seems like it should.
Mary


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What is the best way to grap My photos from my Iphone 6 Running Ios10

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hello Friends:
I love The way Ios10 can split my photos and put them into albums with
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with the same albums etc? is there a way of doing this? I need to save
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Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Chris Chaffin]

I did not try using the on screen braille input because I can not get that to 
work reliably for me.  But I have typed it in the MBraille app and pasted it in 
the text field.
I also just used dictation to dictate the phrase, I love pizza.

Now when I went down to change the keyboard to emoji, I noticed that it was 
already on that keyboard.  In order for me to get it to work, I did a double 
tap and hold on the keyboard, slid my finger up until I heard emoji, then 
released.  You can also probably change it to english and then back to emoji.  
Basically, you can not have the emoji keyboard selected prior to typing or 
dictating your message.

Hope this helps,

Chris


> On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi, so how does one do it, when they use braille screen input, particularly 
> when they sometimes show up? I'm sorry, but we're still missing something 
> here. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner  
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> Date: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:38 pm
> Subject: RE: imoje's as replacement for words... how?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I found a page that was written during the beta cycle.  Those who are not 
>> finding the Emoji suggestions or the Emoji item in the rotor, like me, 
>> probably had predictive text turned off in the keyboard settings.  Here is a 
>> good chunk of the page.  I put the link to the entire article at the end.
>> 
>> How do you get emoji recommendations in iMessage?
>> 
>> If you're running iOS 10, Apple's predictive QuickType keyboard can suggest 
>> emoji as well as, you know, regular words. The predictive keyboard has to be 
>> turned on in Settings, and can't be hidden.
>> 1. Start typing in the iMessage text field.
>> 2. Tap any emoji predictions that show up in the prediction bar. If 
>> multiple predictions show up, tap the one you prefer.
>> 3. Tap the Send button. (Looks like an upward arrow)
>> Emoji predictions will show up whenever you type something that has a 
>> corresponding emoji. For example, "I'm happy" will predict "I'm [smiley 
>> face]". "My car" will suggest the "[car]" emoji.
>> How do you emojify an iMessage?
>> With iOS 10, "emojification" works similarly to emoji recommendations.
>> 1. Type an iMessage text field.
>> 2. Tap the Emoji button on the keyboard.
>> 
>> 3. Tap on a word that's underlined in yellow to replace it with its 
>> corresponding emoji.
>> 4. Keep tapping words underlined in yellow until you've "emojified" 
>> everything you want.
>> 5. Tap the Send button. (Looks like an upward arrow)
>> 
>> With emojification, you can convert as many - or as few - words to emoji as 
>> you like.
>> How do you react with an emoji Tapback in iMessage?
>> Emoji aren't just for replying in iOS 10, they're also for reacting. Apple 
>> calls them Tapbacks. They're similar to Slack or Facebook emoji reactions, 
>> and drop right onto any iMessage bubble sent your way.
>> 1. Touch and hold (long press) on an iMessage sent your way.
>> 2. Tap the Tapback you want to send: Heart, thumbs up, thumbs down, Ha 
>> ha, !!, or ?.
>> 
>> There's no need to hit send, the emoji reaction goes immediately.
>> What do the new Tapback emoji reactions mean?
>> Currently, in the iOS 10 beta, the following Tapback emoji are available:
>> . Heart: Like, love, or fav
>> . Thumbs up: Happy, approve, or agree
>> . Thumbs down: Sad, disapprove, or disagree
>> . Ha ha: Laugh, either happily or sarcastically.
>> . !!: Exclaim emphatically.
>> . ?: Question.
>> How do you change the emoji reaction Tapback in iMessage?
>> If you reply with the wrong Tapback, or you later decide you want a 
>> different Tapback, you can easily make the change.
>> 1. Touch and hold (long press) on an iMessage with the Tapback you want 
>> to change.
>> 2. Tap the Tapback you want to change to: Heart, thumbs up, thumbs down, 
>> Ha ha, !, or ?.
>> 
>> The new Tapback will take the place of the old one.
>> How do you delete the emoji reaction Tapback in iMessage?
>> If you accidentally send a Tapback, or have simply reconsider sending one, 
>> you can also remove it.
>> 1. Touch a Tapback that you wish to remove.
>> 2. Tap the Tapback you want to remove (i.e. if you want to remove Heart, 
>> tap Heart.)
>> 
>> The Tapback will disappear.
>> Do the 3x emoji and Tapbacks work on the Mac?
>> Sure do! With macOS Sierra you can send and receive both the new 3x emoji 
>> and the Tapbacks, right from the Mac.
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.imore.com/how-use-emoji-and-tapbacks-imessage-ios-10
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
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Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Donna]

While experimenting with this I used the phrase "my cat ate my pizza!" I 
selected the emogi keyboard, emogi was in the rotor and 2 words had emogi 
replacements, cat and pizza. But when I tried it by typing "Hi" the emogi 
didn't show up in the rotor. There is an emogi waving Hi. So definately this 
feature is hit or miss. 

Donna
> 
> You don't have to select a word. The whole point of the emojification of text 
> is to show words that can be emojified, without you knowing exactly which 
> words or phrase to do it to. Just switch to emoji keyboard, tap the edit 
> field, and you should hear "emoji suggestions available" or something like 
> that. Then try and find emoji in the rotor.
> 
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Richard Turner 
>>  wrote:
>> Well, I just tried it.
>> 
>> I wrote some text.
>> 
>> I selected the Emoji keyboard.
>> 
>> I selected a word,
>> 
>> I turned the rotor and there was no images option.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> But, I made sure that both my iPod Touch and my iPhone had reduce motion 
>> turned off.
>> 
>> I double tapped and held on the send button, flicked to Screen and double 
>> tapped, flick to the list of options and selected fireworks.
>> 
>> I then flicked to “Send with fireworks” and double tapped.
>> 
>> I sent this text from my iPod Touch to my Phone.
>> 
>> When I opened the message, I got the description and the sound from the 
>> Fireworks image.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So, for sound to work on either end, you need reduce motion off.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> But, the idea of replacing a word is at best inconsistent if it works at all.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Donna
>> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 11:12 AM
>> 
>> 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?
>>  
>> 
>> Ah thanks for this. Now I know what I was doing wrong. I didn't select the 
>> emogi keyboard. I assumed that the emogi would only appear in the rotor if 
>> emogis were available to replace words. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I have not tried this, but according to Anna’s message, quoted below, you 
>> have to first switch to the Emoji keyboard.  There is a button just to the 
>> right of the “More numbers” button in the lower left corner that should 
>> allow you to switch to the Emoji keyboard.  If that isn’t there, you need to 
>> go into Settings, General, Keyboard and add the Emoji keyboard.
>> 
>> Here is what Anna wrote, which she credits to Jonathan Mosen’s book:
>> 
>> After you type your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a 
>> rotor item called Emojis; turn the rotor to  that. When you flick down, 
>> you'll be told when you're on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It 
>> will say whether there's one option or several. If there's one, double-tap 
>> to make the replacement. If there's more than one choice, flick left and 
>> right to move through them, and double-tap the one you want.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Beth G
>> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am still unable to figure out how to do this. When I type the phrase I 
>> love pizza and use the rotor, there is no Emoji option. What am I doing 
>> wrong? I have checked in roter settings but do not see anything there either
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Beth Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> Gosh. I bet he has some contact in Apple or something. No one on the beta 
>> list could figure it out, lol.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ron Pelletier  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> That’s where I got it also.  Thanks to Jonathan
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Ron & Danvers
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Woody Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 12:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Devin,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thank Jonathan Mosen. I learned about it from his book.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Anna
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thank you, Anna. I went through the beta program, and no one even knew about 
>> that trick, lol.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jennifer,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I think the substitution of emojis only happens 

Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Chris Chaffin]

Richard, this might solve your problem, but I just checked my settings and my 
predictive text is turned off.
I just tried it again, and this is what I did:

1, Opened a new message and addressed it to myself for testing purposes.
2, Entered the phrase, I love pizza!!.
3, Went and selected the emoji keyboard.
4, I checked my rotor and I was at the emoji choice.  I then just flicked my 
finger down, and it moves between the words that have emoji replacements.

Now voice over did not give me any feedback once I changed to the emoji 
keyboard.  I did not know that focus was in the text box and emoji was chosen 
on my rotor without checking.
I do not know if different phones will act a little different, but I am using 
an iPhone 6.

Chris


> On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:38 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I found a page that was written during the beta cycle.  Those who are not 
> finding the Emoji suggestions or the Emoji item in the rotor, like me, 
> probably had predictive text turned off in the keyboard settings.  Here is a 
> good chunk of the page.  I put the link to the entire article at the end.
> 
>  
> 
> How do you get emoji recommendations in iMessage?
> 
> 
> 
> If you're running iOS 10, Apple's predictive QuickType keyboard can suggest 
> emoji as well as, you know, regular words. The predictive keyboard has to be 
> turned on in Settings, and can't be hidden.
> 
> 1. Start typing in the iMessage text field.
> 2. Tap any emoji predictions that show up in the prediction bar. If 
> multiple predictions show up, tap the one you prefer.
> 3. Tap the Send button. (Looks like an upward arrow)
> Emoji predictions will show up whenever you type something that has a 
> corresponding emoji. For example, "I'm happy" will predict "I'm [smiley 
> face]". "My car" will suggest the "[car]" emoji.
> 
> How do you emojify an iMessage?
> 
> With iOS 10, "emojification" works similarly to emoji recommendations.
> 
> 1. Type an iMessage text field.
> 2. Tap the Emoji button on the keyboard.
> 
> 
> 
> 3. Tap on a word that's underlined in yellow to replace it with its 
> corresponding emoji.
> 
> 4. Keep tapping words underlined in yellow until you've "emojified" 
> everything you want.
> 5. Tap the Send button. (Looks like an upward arrow)
> 
> 
> 
> With emojification, you can convert as many — or as few — words to emoji as 
> you like.
> 
> How do you react with an emoji Tapback in iMessage?
> 
> Emoji aren't just for replying in iOS 10, they're also for reacting. Apple 
> calls them Tapbacks. They're similar to Slack or Facebook emoji reactions, 
> and drop right onto any iMessage bubble sent your way.
> 
> 1. Touch and hold (long press) on an iMessage sent your way.
> 2. Tap the Tapback you want to send: Heart, thumbs up, thumbs down, Ha 
> ha, !!, or ?.
> 
> 
> 
> There's no need to hit send, the emoji reaction goes immediately.
> 
> What do the new Tapback emoji reactions mean?
> 
> Currently, in the iOS 10 beta, the following Tapback emoji are available:
> 
> · Heart: Like, love, or fav
> · Thumbs up: Happy, approve, or agree
> · Thumbs down: Sad, disapprove, or disagree
> · Ha ha: Laugh, either happily or sarcastically.
> · !!: Exclaim emphatically.
> · ?: Question.
> How do you change the emoji reaction Tapback in iMessage?
> 
> If you reply with the wrong Tapback, or you later decide you want a different 
> Tapback, you can easily make the change.
> 
> 1. Touch and hold (long press) on an iMessage with the Tapback you want 
> to change.
> 2. Tap the Tapback you want to change to: Heart, thumbs up, thumbs down, 
> Ha ha, !, or ?.
> 
> 
> 
> The new Tapback will take the place of the old one.
> 
> How do you delete the emoji reaction Tapback in iMessage?
> 
> If you accidentally send a Tapback, or have simply reconsider sending one, 
> you can also remove it.
> 
> 1. Touch a Tapback that you wish to remove.
> 2. Tap the Tapback you want to remove (i.e. if you want to remove Heart, 
> tap Heart.)
> 
> 
> 
> The Tapback will disappear.
> 
> Do the 3x emoji and Tapbacks work on the Mac?
> 
> Sure do! With macOS Sierra you can send and receive both the new 3x emoji and 
> the Tapbacks, right from the Mac.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.imore.com/how-use-emoji-and-tapbacks-imessage-ios-10
> 
>  
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Richard
> 
>  
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Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Rajmund]

Hi, so how does one do it, when they use braille screen input, particularly 
when they sometimes show up? I'm sorry, but we're still missing something here. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:38 pm
Subject: RE: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

>
>
> I found a page that was written during the beta cycle.  Those who are not 
> finding the Emoji suggestions or the Emoji item in the rotor, like me, 
> probably had predictive text turned off in the keyboard settings.  Here is a 
> good chunk of the page.  I put the link to the entire article at the end.
>  
> How do you get emoji recommendations in iMessage?
> 
> If you're running iOS 10, Apple's predictive QuickType keyboard can suggest 
> emoji as well as, you know, regular words. The predictive keyboard has to be 
> turned on in Settings, and can't be hidden.
> 1. Start typing in the iMessage text field.
> 2. Tap any emoji predictions that show up in the prediction bar. If 
> multiple predictions show up, tap the one you prefer.
> 3. Tap the Send button. (Looks like an upward arrow)
> Emoji predictions will show up whenever you type something that has a 
> corresponding emoji. For example, "I'm happy" will predict "I'm [smiley 
> face]". "My car" will suggest the "[car]" emoji.
> How do you emojify an iMessage?
> With iOS 10, "emojification" works similarly to emoji recommendations.
> 1. Type an iMessage text field.
> 2. Tap the Emoji button on the keyboard.
> 
> 3. Tap on a word that's underlined in yellow to replace it with its 
> corresponding emoji.
> 4. Keep tapping words underlined in yellow until you've "emojified" 
> everything you want.
> 5. Tap the Send button. (Looks like an upward arrow)
> 
> With emojification, you can convert as many - or as few - words to emoji as 
> you like.
> How do you react with an emoji Tapback in iMessage?
> Emoji aren't just for replying in iOS 10, they're also for reacting. Apple 
> calls them Tapbacks. They're similar to Slack or Facebook emoji reactions, 
> and drop right onto any iMessage bubble sent your way.
> 1. Touch and hold (long press) on an iMessage sent your way.
> 2. Tap the Tapback you want to send: Heart, thumbs up, thumbs down, Ha 
> ha, !!, or ?.
> 
> There's no need to hit send, the emoji reaction goes immediately.
> What do the new Tapback emoji reactions mean?
> Currently, in the iOS 10 beta, the following Tapback emoji are available:
> . Heart: Like, love, or fav
> . Thumbs up: Happy, approve, or agree
> . Thumbs down: Sad, disapprove, or disagree
> . Ha ha: Laugh, either happily or sarcastically.
> . !!: Exclaim emphatically.
> . ?: Question.
> How do you change the emoji reaction Tapback in iMessage?
> If you reply with the wrong Tapback, or you later decide you want a different 
> Tapback, you can easily make the change.
> 1. Touch and hold (long press) on an iMessage with the Tapback you want 
> to change.
> 2. Tap the Tapback you want to change to: Heart, thumbs up, thumbs down, 
> Ha ha, !, or ?.
> 
> The new Tapback will take the place of the old one.
> How do you delete the emoji reaction Tapback in iMessage?
> If you accidentally send a Tapback, or have simply reconsider sending one, 
> you can also remove it.
> 1. Touch a Tapback that you wish to remove.
> 2. Tap the Tapback you want to remove (i.e. if you want to remove Heart, 
> tap Heart.)
> 
> The Tapback will disappear.
> Do the 3x emoji and Tapbacks work on the Mac?
> Sure do! With macOS Sierra you can send and receive both the new 3x emoji and 
> the Tapbacks, right from the Mac.
>  
>  
> http://www.imore.com/how-use-emoji-and-tapbacks-imessage-ios-10
>  
> HTH,
> Richard
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Re: Sound when sending text messages iOS10 seems to have disappeared

[Antonio Guimaraes]

Make sure your phone is not on vibrate. Set the rocker switch into the setting 
where the phone will ring. 

.



> On Sep 17, 2016, at 1:19 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I still have the sound when sending text messages, but I don't find any 
> separate sound setting for it.
> I'm on an iPhone 5s. Are any other sounds missing?
> Is change with buttons on in your sound settings?
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Shai  > wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> In iOS10, the sound that a text message has sent seems to have
>> disappeared. I liked receiving this audible indication as I knew that
>> the message was successful in going out. Has anyone else noticed this
>> and is there a means of turning it back on that I do not know of?
>> Just as an example, this audible indication had been present in the
>> previous release of iOS.
>> Thank you in advance for any responses
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Re: Can't separate voiceover from speaker.

[Chris Chaffin]

I have the same problem.  I do not know if the feature is just not working 
correctly, or if designating the channel the sound is suppose to come out of is 
all it is suppose to do.
But as it is, in my opinion, it is not useful at all.

Hopefully there is something I am just not doing correctly.

Chris


> On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> 
> Hello, I understand that you can get the audio from voiceover to stay on your 
> phone but leave your music on the bluetooth speaker. However, when I try this 
> by utnselecting both channels, it won't let me do that. Does this feature not 
> work then? I got as far as hearing voiceover audio in one ear on my headset, 
> but the clicks are in both speakers. On my big Bluetooth speaker, I would 
> like to listen to the music while keeping VO audio on my phone.
> Thanks,
> Matthew
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Re: Muffled Voiceover

[Antonio Guimaraes]

When this happens with me, I press the power button quickly about ten times. 
the phone will go off and come back alive in about ten seconds without the 
muffled speech.




> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Brandon Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> My wife just got her iPhone 7. It sounded okay at first, but in the middle of 
> setup, she received a phone call.
> 
> Now the voice sounds muffled, as though she’s on the phone and on speaker.
> 
> We’ve tried restarting the phone, and several other things, but it isn’t 
> working. Any idea what I could do?
> 
> Brandon
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Can't separate voiceover from speaker.

[Matthew Bullis]

Hello, I understand that you can get the audio from voiceover to stay on your 
phone but leave your music on the bluetooth speaker. However, when I try this 
by utnselecting both channels, it won't let me do that. Does this feature not 
work then? I got as far as hearing voiceover audio in one ear on my headset, 
but the clicks are in both speakers. On my big Bluetooth speaker, I would like 
to listen to the music while keeping VO audio on my phone.
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RE: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Richard Turner]

Clearly none of the words then in the text I was experimenting with could be 
replaced.
I was in the edit field, in edit mode, when I was turning the rotor.

I’ll try with the next text I write and see what happens.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 11:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

You don't have to select a word. The whole point of the emojification of text 
is to show words that can be emojified, without you knowing exactly which words 
or phrase to do it to. Just switch to emoji keyboard, tap the edit field, and 
you should hear "emoji suggestions available" or something like that. Then try 
and find emoji in the rotor.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
Well, I just tried it.
I wrote some text.
I selected the Emoji keyboard.
I selected a word,
I turned the rotor and there was no images option.


But, I made sure that both my iPod Touch and my iPhone had reduce motion turned 
off.
I double tapped and held on the send button, flicked to Screen and double 
tapped, flick to the list of options and selected fireworks.
I then flicked to “Send with fireworks” and double tapped.
I sent this text from my iPod Touch to my Phone.
When I opened the message, I got the description and the sound from the 
Fireworks image.

So, for sound to work on either end, you need reduce motion off.

But, the idea of replacing a word is at best inconsistent if it works at all.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 11:12 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

Ah thanks for this. Now I know what I was doing wrong. I didn't select the 
emogi keyboard. I assumed that the emogi would only appear in the rotor if 
emogis were available to replace words.

Donna

I have not tried this, but according to Anna’s message, quoted below, you have 
to first switch to the Emoji keyboard.  There is a button just to the right of 
the “More numbers” button in the lower left corner that should allow you to 
switch to the Emoji keyboard.  If that isn’t there, you need to go into 
Settings, General, Keyboard and add the Emoji keyboard.
Here is what Anna wrote, which she credits to Jonathan Mosen’s book:
After you type your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a rotor 
item called Emojis; turn the rotor to  that. When you flick down, you'll be 
told when you're on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It will say 
whether there's one option or several. If there's one, double-tap to make the 
replacement. If there's more than one choice, flick left and right to move 
through them, and double-tap the one you want.

HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Beth G
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

Hi,

I am still unable to figure out how to do this. When I type the phrase I love 
pizza and use the rotor, there is no Emoji option. What am I doing wrong? I 
have checked in roter settings but do not see anything there either


Thanks,

Beth Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Devin Prater 
> wrote:
Gosh. I bet he has some contact in Apple or something. No one on the beta list 
could figure it out, lol.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ron Pelletier 
> wrote:
Hi,

That’s where I got it also.  Thanks to Jonathan

Ron & Danvers


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

Hi Devin,

Thank Jonathan Mosen. I learned about it from his book.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:24 AM, Devin Prater 
> wrote:

Thank you, Anna. I went through the beta program, and no one even knew about 
that trick, lol.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Woody Anna Dresner 
> wrote:
Hi Jennifer,

I think the substitution of emojis only happens in Messages. After you type 
your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a rotor item called 
Emojis; turn the rotor to that. When you 

Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[rajmund]

OK, not being mean, but, if it's doable, could someone be kind 
enough to actually give us a podcast? I'm: 1) unable to get it 
working.  2) Unclear as to how you would do it with multiple of 
words.  Please, someone, would it be possible to make one?


Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: Devin Prater ] *On Behalf Of *Beth G
*Sent:* Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:19 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: imoje's as replacement for words...  how?



Hi,

I am still unable to figure out how to do this.  When I type the 
phrase I
love pizza and use the rotor, there is no Emoji option.  What am 
I doing
wrong? I have checked in roter settings but do not see anything 
there either






Thanks,

Beth Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Devin Prater 
 wrote:


Gosh.  I bet he has some contact in Apple or something.  No one 
on the beta

list could figure it out, lol.


Devin Pratersent from Gmail.



On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ron Pelletier 
 wrote:




Thank you, Anna.  I went through the beta program, and no one 
even knew

about that trick, lol.


Devin Pratersent from Gmail.



On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Woody Anna Dresner 

iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending a VoiceOver Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Fact That the Native Mail "Most Recent Message on Top", Toggle Setting, Does not Function as Expected

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Please join me in sending a VoiceOver feedback report to Apple regarding the
fact that the iOS 10 native Mail "Most Recent Message on Top", Toggle
Setting, Does not Function as Expected

I have already written the report, complete with a workaround, so all you
need to do is to paste it into a new email, either in its entirety or
modified as you wish, and send it to any and all Apple channels to which you
have access.

As a side note, I find it most curious that, while one can search and
display the native iOS Mail app in the App Store, on an iOS device, there is
no where, at least not one that I could find, to leave a review of the app.
Oversight?  Hmm.  

[BEGIN REPORT]
Subject:
IOS 10 VoiceOver Native Mail Bug:  "Most Recent Message on Top", Toggle,
Does not Function as Expected

SUMMARY:
Even when the "Most Recent Message on Top", toggle, located in
Settings/Mail, is set to "Off", the first message just below the thread's
subject line, when viewed from the Inbox, is always the most recent post to
the conversation.  As a consequence, if I want to read the original post to
a thread, I have to first single-finger right-swipe all the way down to the
first message in the conversation list and then single-finger left-swipe
back up, one message at a time.

STEPS TO REPRODUCE THE BUG:
1.
In Settings/Mail, 
Set "Preview" to None.
Set "Organize by Thread" to On.
Set "Most Recent Message on Top" to Off.
Set "Complete Thread" to Off.

2.
Open the Mail app.

3.
Place focus on a collapsed thread.

4.
>From the VoiceOver Rotor, select "Expand Thread".  The thread will expand
downward.  

5.
Now, single-finger swipe to the right in order to move to the first message
listed below the subject line of the conversation and, as expected,
VoiceOver reads the complete text of the message.

The bug is that, even when the "Most Recent Message on Top", toggle, is set
to "Off", the first message listed just below the thread's subject line is
always the most recent post to the thread. As a consequence, if I want to
read the original post to a thread, I have to first single-finger
right-swipe all the way down to the first message in the conversation list
and then single-finger left-swipe back up, one message at a time.

WORKAROUND:
1.
Make certain that "Preview" is set to "None".

2.
Make certain that the "Most Recent Message on Top" toggle is set to "Off".

3.
Open the Mail app.

4.
Place focus on a collapsed thread that is marked as being "unread".

5.
Single-finger, double-tap the thread to open the conversation.  The oldest
message in the thread will be correctly displayed.  

6.
If necessary, on the VoiceOver Rotor, select "Messages".  Now, simply
single-finger swipe down (from top to bottom) in order to be taken to the
next message in the conversation, moving forward in time.  VoiceOver should
automatically read the contents of each message.
[END REPORT]

Thank you,

Mark

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Re: Restoring iPhone 7 from iCloud backup

[Wayne Merritt]

Thanks Anna. I solved my problem by reseting my phone and erasing all content 
and settings. I didn't have much data on so I figured why not. It worked! I was 
able to setup my phone as if it were a new phone and restore from iCloud. I've 
got all my apps, folders and settings like I had before.

Sincerely,

Wayne Merritt
Sent from my iPhone 7

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Wayne,
> 
> First, I would make sure your Internet connection is working properly. If it 
> is, check your old phone to see when it was backed up last & do another 
> backup to be sure everything is backed up. Then go to 
> Settings/General/Reset/Erase on the new phone, erase  all, and try restoring 
> from the backup again. I had something similar happen Where I tried to 
> restore from iTunes and only got a few apps. Fortunately, the second attempt 
> went fine.
> 
> Good luck,
> Anna
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:37 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> 
>> All,
>> Last night I got my new iPhone 7! Yay! When setting up the phone I was asked 
>> what method I wanted to use to restore my information. I chose the most 
>> recent iCloud backup that I had made. When checking my phone an hour ago 
>> though, it looked like a brand new phone does. None of my apps and folders 
>> that I had on the 6S were showing on the new 7. This is the first time 
>> something like this has happened to me, each time before when I had restored 
>> from iCloud, all of my stuff came back. What do I need to do to get 
>> everything on the 7 like I had it on my 6S? Do I need to start over by 
>> erasing all data and setting up the 7 all over again? Please help!! All of 
>> my settings, app purchases, and app positions have been erased on the new 7. 
>> I really don't want to have to download each app all over again and arrange 
>> them, but I've got nothing else going on this weekend, grin.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Wayne Merritt
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
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Re: OK Google

[Devin Prater]

Yep, and you can't even unlock the iPhone with siri like you can with
Google Now.

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On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Robin  wrote:

> That's probably because Apple won't Allow It
>
> One benefit of Samsung's AndroidDevices is it Allows the User to use
> various Assistants, I'm Referrin'To Microsoft'sCortana (with HeyCortana),
> Google'sGoogleNow (with OkayGoogle), & its VeryOwn SVoice (with HiGalaxy)
>
> These ALL can be used from the LockScreen
>
> JustSayin'
>
> I beleive Apple only allows its PersonalAssistant, Apple'sSiri ToBe
> Activated from AnyWhere
> At 11:03 AM 9/17/2016, you wrote:
>
> "OK GOogle" will only work in the iOS Google app. THere is no global
> speech recognition/hotwording  iOS API from Apple.Â
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 11:01 AM Marie  wrote:
> I have an Android device and one of the few things I like better on it
> than on the IPhone is OK Google. Is there any way to get it to be available
> at all times on the IPhone? I know this is probably not possible since it
> is not a part of the OS but Just wishful thinking on my part.
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Re: OK Google

[Robin]

That's probably because Apple won't Allow It

One benefit of Samsung's AndroidDevices is it 
Allows the User to use various Assistants, I'm 
Referrin'To Microsoft'sCortana (with HeyCortana), 
Google'sGoogleNow (with OkayGoogle), & its VeryOwn SVoice (with HiGalaxy)


These ALL can be used from the LockScreen

JustSayin'

I beleive Apple only allows its 
PersonalAssistant, Apple'sSiri ToBe Activated from AnyWhere

At 11:03 AM 9/17/2016, you wrote:
"OK GOogle" will only work in the iOS Google 
app. THere is no global speech recognition/hotwording  iOS API from Apple.Â


On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 11:01 AM Marie 
<scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
I have an Android device and one of the few 
things I like better on it than on the IPhone is 
OK Google. Is there any way to get it to be 
available at all times on the IPhone? I know 
this is probably not possible since it is not a 
part of the OS but Just wishful thinking on my part.

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Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Devin Prater]

You don't have to select a word. The whole point of the emojification of
text is to show words that can be emojified, without you knowing exactly
which words or phrase to do it to. Just switch to emoji keyboard, tap the
edit field, and you should hear "emoji suggestions available" or something
like that. Then try and find emoji in the rotor.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

> Well, I just tried it.
>
> I wrote some text.
>
> I selected the Emoji keyboard.
>
> I selected a word,
>
> I turned the rotor and there was no images option.
>
>
>
>
>
> But, I made sure that both my iPod Touch and my iPhone had reduce motion
> turned off.
>
> I double tapped and held on the send button, flicked to Screen and double
> tapped, flick to the list of options and selected fireworks.
>
> I then flicked to “Send with fireworks” and double tapped.
>
> I sent this text from my iPod Touch to my Phone.
>
> When I opened the message, I got the description and the sound from the
> Fireworks image.
>
>
>
> So, for sound to work on either end, you need reduce motion off.
>
>
>
> But, the idea of replacing a word is at best inconsistent if it works at
> all.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Donna
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 17, 2016 11:12 AM
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?
>
>
>
> Ah thanks for this. Now I know what I was doing wrong. I didn't select the
> emogi keyboard. I assumed that the emogi would only appear in the rotor if
> emogis were available to replace words.
>
>
>
> Donna
>
>
>
> I have not tried this, but according to Anna’s message, quoted below, you
> have to first switch to the Emoji keyboard.  There is a button just to the
> right of the “More numbers” button in the lower left corner that should
> allow you to switch to the Emoji keyboard.  If that isn’t there, you need
> to go into Settings, General, Keyboard and add the Emoji keyboard.
>
> Here is what Anna wrote, which she credits to Jonathan Mosen’s book:
>
> After you type your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a
> rotor item called Emojis; turn the rotor to  that. When you flick down,
> you'll be told when you're on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It
> will say whether there's one option or several. If there's one, double-tap
> to make the replacement. If there's more than one choice, flick left and
> right to move through them, and double-tap the one you want.
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Beth G
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:19 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am still unable to figure out how to do this. When I type the phrase I
> love pizza and use the rotor, there is no Emoji option. What am I doing
> wrong? I have checked in roter settings but do not see anything there either
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Beth Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>
> Gosh. I bet he has some contact in Apple or something. No one on the beta
> list could figure it out, lol.
>
>
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ron Pelletier 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> That’s where I got it also.  Thanks to Jonathan
>
>
>
> Ron & Danvers
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Woody Anna Dresner
> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 12:32 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?
>
>
>
> Hi Devin,
>
>
>
> Thank Jonathan Mosen. I learned about it from his book.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>
>
>
> Thank you, Anna. I went through the beta program, and no one even knew
> about that trick, lol.
>
>
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Woody Anna Dresner 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Jennifer,
>
>
>
> I think the substitution of emojis only happens in Messages. After you
> type your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a rotor item
> called Emojis; turn the rotor to that. When you flick down, you'll be told
> when you're on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It will say whether
> there's one option or several. If there's one, double-tap to make the
> replacement. If there's more than one choice, flick left and right to move
> through them, and double-tap the one you want.
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Anna
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I read that imoje's can replace words? Is this only in 

Re: Watch OS 3.0 - Viration time!

[christopher hallsworth]

Figured it out. There is a specific rhythm of doing the taps. Don’t double or 
triple tap like you usually do. Instead, tap, then half a second later do 
another tap, and so on.
> On 15 Sep 2016, at 23:22, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> If you triple tap you will only get the minutes of the time, double tap you 
> will get the full time.
> 
> I hope this helps,
> 
> Ed
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:02 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It was already on and set to digits on my watch now running watchOS 3. It 
>> might be me though, but I am getting inconsistencies. Sometimes I get the 
>> full pattern, sometimes I get just the minutes, other times though I just 
>> get the time spoken, no haptic feedback. Again though it’s probably me while 
>> I get accustomed to the very useful feature.
>>> On 14 Sep 2016, at 21:22, Timothy Emmons  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Claudio and folks, I just updated to Watch OS 3, and I can't figure out 
>>> the haptic time as described here. Is there something I need enabled? Just 
>>> curious. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 
 The preview doesn't work in iOS 10 even with hints on.
 It could be this three finger tap is the solution.
 Richard
 
 
 (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
 
 On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Claudio Levantini  
 wrote:
 
> Hello all,
> The best new feature in Watch OS 3.0 is the "Vibration time".
> This is not the official name.
> With Voice Over on and the screen locked, tap twice on the watch.
> It buz like a morse signal.
> Teh code is very simple:
> long vibrations stand for 10 unit;
> short vibrations stand for 1 unit.
> Examples:
> 12.05 (1 logng, 2 shorts, pause, 5 shorts)
> 23.59 (2 longs, 3 shorts, pause 5 longs, 9 shorts)
> 
> For me it's a very beatiful mode, useful when it is not so  polite to 
> speech the time.
> 
> Regards.
> Claudio
> 
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Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

[christopher hallsworth]

I still use Alex, but have Lee and Serena as alternative voices. Oh and Fred 
too.
> On 15 Sep 2016, at 23:24, Casey  wrote:
> 
> Hi now since IS 10 is out.
> What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use with your 
> phone?
> I was using Alex and am using him again now.
> But just Wonder also if you find any of the newer voice faster and more 
> responsive.
> So that is why all of the questions.
> 
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RE: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Richard Turner]

Well, I just tried it.
I wrote some text.
I selected the Emoji keyboard.
I selected a word,
I turned the rotor and there was no images option.


But, I made sure that both my iPod Touch and my iPhone had reduce motion turned 
off.
I double tapped and held on the send button, flicked to Screen and double 
tapped, flick to the list of options and selected fireworks.
I then flicked to “Send with fireworks” and double tapped.
I sent this text from my iPod Touch to my Phone.
When I opened the message, I got the description and the sound from the 
Fireworks image.

So, for sound to work on either end, you need reduce motion off.

But, the idea of replacing a word is at best inconsistent if it works at all.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

Ah thanks for this. Now I know what I was doing wrong. I didn't select the 
emogi keyboard. I assumed that the emogi would only appear in the rotor if 
emogis were available to replace words.

Donna

I have not tried this, but according to Anna’s message, quoted below, you have 
to first switch to the Emoji keyboard.  There is a button just to the right of 
the “More numbers” button in the lower left corner that should allow you to 
switch to the Emoji keyboard.  If that isn’t there, you need to go into 
Settings, General, Keyboard and add the Emoji keyboard.
Here is what Anna wrote, which she credits to Jonathan Mosen’s book:
After you type your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a rotor 
item called Emojis; turn the rotor to  that. When you flick down, you'll be 
told when you're on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It will say 
whether there's one option or several. If there's one, double-tap to make the 
replacement. If there's more than one choice, flick left and right to move 
through them, and double-tap the one you want.

HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Beth G
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

Hi,

I am still unable to figure out how to do this. When I type the phrase I love 
pizza and use the rotor, there is no Emoji option. What am I doing wrong? I 
have checked in roter settings but do not see anything there either


Thanks,

Beth Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Devin Prater 
> wrote:
Gosh. I bet he has some contact in Apple or something. No one on the beta list 
could figure it out, lol.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ron Pelletier 
> wrote:
Hi,

That’s where I got it also.  Thanks to Jonathan

Ron & Danvers


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

Hi Devin,

Thank Jonathan Mosen. I learned about it from his book.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:24 AM, Devin Prater 
> wrote:

Thank you, Anna. I went through the beta program, and no one even knew about 
that trick, lol.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Woody Anna Dresner 
> wrote:
Hi Jennifer,

I think the substitution of emojis only happens in Messages. After you type 
your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a rotor item called 
Emojis; turn the rotor to that. When you flick down, you'll be told when you're 
on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It will say whether there's one 
option or several. If there's one, double-tap to make the replacement. If 
there's more than one choice, flick left and right to move through them, and 
double-tap the one you want.

HTH,
Anna


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Jenifer Barr 
> wrote:
Hi all.
I read that imoje's can replace words? Is this only in iMessages? Or in any 
text field? Also, how do I find where to insert them in a block of text I've 
written?
Thanks.


Jenifer Barr
Jenifer571 on dice world
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Re: Experimenting with app thinning and copying apps from my iTunes library

[Grant]

Hi all,

I appreciate the replies. Looks like nothing has changed since iOS 9 and that 
we can continue to use iTunes to copy apps to our devices. Again, we’ll just 
need to make sure they’re kept up to date in two places now (update on your 
iDevice first, make sure the update is accessible, then update in iTunes). 
Provided we do that there should be no issue with restoring local copies of 
apps nor with rolling back to older versions of apps.

Thanks!

Grant

> On Saturday September 17, 2016, at 11:15:52 AM, Woody Anna Dresner 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Last night, I restored from an iTunes backup to my new iPhone 7. I'm pretty 
> sure the apps were being copied from my computer rather than being 
> downloaded, as the LCD section in iTunes said, "Copying," followed by the app 
> name of the app being copied to my phone,  and the process took less time 
> than I think it would have if the apps were being downloaded. All the apps 
> were on my computer, and I updated them all before backing up my old phone.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Alan Lemly  > wrote:
> 
>> Grant and mark, 
>> 
>> Thanks for this excellent post and for your original post about a year ago, 
>> mark. I also use iTunes to download app updates done on my iPhone to my 
>> computer shortly after the update. I've not had to do a restore since Ios 9 
>> came out but I'm encouraged that Grant was successful in rolling back to an 
>> older version on his computer using Itunes. 
>> 
>> It sounds like those of us who have backups of these older versions will 
>> still be able to use them even with app thinning. 
>> 
>> I'll make sure to post my experience the first time I do a restore under 
>> this app thinning regime. 
>> 
>> Alan Lemly 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 11:22 AM, M. Taylor >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Grant,
>>> 
>>> Your conclusions are absolutely correct.  
>>> 
>>> Several times during a week when I update apps on my iOS devices, I open 
>>> iTunes and update them on the computer, as well, so as to have a good 
>>> backup version.  
>>> 
>>> I posted about this a year or so ago but I don't think it was well received 
>>> as this method is somewhat counter intuitive to the classic way apps used 
>>> to be handled.  
>>> 
>>> Regardless, an excellent post and I hope many benefit from it.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>>> Behalf Of Grant
>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 3:06 PM
>>> To: Viphone List
>>> Subject: Experimenting with app thinning and copying apps from my iTunes 
>>> library
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I believe it’s still possible to sync apps to iDevices from your iTunes 
>>> library as of iOS 10. I just successfully copied an older version of the 
>>> Tile app from my Mac to my iPhone. Once the sync process began, the app 
>>> showed up on my home screen and displayed “loading” just as it would if it 
>>> were being downloaded from iCloud, but I’m pretty sure it was in fact 
>>> copying from my local library and iTunes displayed status info to verify 
>>> this. Now I’ve successfully rolled back the app to the older version.
>>> 
>>> Based on this, I think we can continue to sync apps from iTunes keeping in 
>>> mind the following caveats:
>>> 
>>> 1. You can’t ever copy in the other direction (from an iDevice to iTunes) 
>>> due to app thinning. However, from the Store tab in the iTunes preferences 
>>> window you can configure your computers to download newly purchased apps 
>>> automatically, thus giving you a local copy in iTunes that can be used 
>>> later.
>>> 2. The auto-download feature won’t keep apps up to date. For example, if 
>>> you have automatic downloads on and purchase BlindSquare for the first 
>>> time, a local copy will download to your computers but future updates won’t 
>>> automatically download—even if you update on your iDevice. To work around 
>>> this, you can manually update from the apps section within iTunes. So, if 
>>> you’ve kept your favourite reading app up to date from the apps section in 
>>> iTunes and then a new version comes out that breaks accessibility, you 
>>> should be able to roll back.
>>> 3. I’m not sure what the situation is for devices restored from iTunes 
>>> backups and would love if someone could investigate during their next 
>>> restore. I listened to Jonathan’s podcast and it certainly seemed like apps 
>>> were being downloaded from iCloud so I’m not sure whether there’s a 
>>> workaround there or what might have been happening. However, that would 
>>> make sense if the required content wasn’t available in the iTunes library 
>>> to begin with or if iTunes wasn’t configured to copy apps to the phone.
>>> 
>>> Would love 

Re: Please Confirm a VoiceOver Bug in Native iOS 10 Mail App Regarding Threaded View

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Mark,

Instead of expanding the thread, double-tap to go into it. Then, the oldest 
message will be listed first. Make sure the rotor is set to Messages, which it 
should be automatically, and you can flick down to and read each message easily.

Best,
Anna


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Gordan Radić  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Mark!
> 
> If I understand this correctly it has some logic to me.
> 
> I believe what Apple tried to do in iOS 10 version of Mail app is to make 
> mail corespondence look like conversation. Something like iMessages or texts. 
> If ther original messages would be on every single thread it would be a large 
> clutter. I agree finding the original message is now bit hard to find but I 
> can't see better solution. That's I usually don't use threads because it is 
> confusing me with all those multiple levels, different branches, following 
> who answered what and to whom... 
> I'll turn on threading and check out how it works and if I find something 
> I'll let you all know but I hardly consider this a bug.
> 
> 
> S poštovanjem
> Gordan Radić
> 
>  
>  
> 17.9.2016. u 9:36, M. Taylor je napisao/la:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> There have been so many posts sent lately that I have lost track so please
>> indulge me in asking for confirmation of a very annoying bug in the native
>> iOS 10 Mail app, regarding the threaded view.
>> 
>> Here are my major settings for Mail.  
>> 
>> Preview, None.
>> Organize by Thread, On.
>> Most Recent Message on Top, Off.
>> Complete Thread, Off.
>> 
>> Here are the steps I take to read threads:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Open the Mail app.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Place focus on a collapsed thread.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Select Expand Thread via the VoiceOver Rotor.  At this point, the thread
>> expands downward.  
>> 
>> 4.
>> Now, I single-finger swipe to the right in order to move to the first
>> message listed below the subject line of the thread and, as is expected, the
>> text of the message is read, out by VoiceOver.
>> 
>> The problem is that, regardless of the status of the, "Most Recent Message
>> on Top", toggle, the first message just below the thread's subject line is
>> always the most recent post to the thread.  As a consequence, if I want to
>> read the original post to a thread, I have to swipe all the way down to the
>> bottom of the list area and reverse swipe back up.  
>> 
>> Does this make sense and are any of you encountering this issue?  
>> 
>> Again, thank you for your indulgence on this.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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Re: Experimenting with app thinning and copying apps from my iTunes library

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Last night, I restored from an iTunes backup to my new iPhone 7. I'm pretty 
sure the apps were being copied from my computer rather than being downloaded, 
as the LCD section in iTunes said, "Copying," followed by the app name of the 
app being copied to my phone,  and the process took less time than I think it 
would have if the apps were being downloaded. All the apps were on my computer, 
and I updated them all before backing up my old phone.

Best,
Anna


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Grant and mark, 
> 
> Thanks for this excellent post and for your original post about a year ago, 
> mark. I also use iTunes to download app updates done on my iPhone to my 
> computer shortly after the update. I've not had to do a restore since Ios 9 
> came out but I'm encouraged that Grant was successful in rolling back to an 
> older version on his computer using Itunes. 
> 
> It sounds like those of us who have backups of these older versions will 
> still be able to use them even with app thinning. 
> 
> I'll make sure to post my experience the first time I do a restore under this 
> app thinning regime. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 11:22 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Grant,
>> 
>> Your conclusions are absolutely correct.  
>> 
>> Several times during a week when I update apps on my iOS devices, I open 
>> iTunes and update them on the computer, as well, so as to have a good backup 
>> version.  
>> 
>> I posted about this a year or so ago but I don't think it was well received 
>> as this method is somewhat counter intuitive to the classic way apps used to 
>> be handled.  
>> 
>> Regardless, an excellent post and I hope many benefit from it.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Grant
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 3:06 PM
>> To: Viphone List
>> Subject: Experimenting with app thinning and copying apps from my iTunes 
>> library
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I believe it’s still possible to sync apps to iDevices from your iTunes 
>> library as of iOS 10. I just successfully copied an older version of the 
>> Tile app from my Mac to my iPhone. Once the sync process began, the app 
>> showed up on my home screen and displayed “loading” just as it would if it 
>> were being downloaded from iCloud, but I’m pretty sure it was in fact 
>> copying from my local library and iTunes displayed status info to verify 
>> this. Now I’ve successfully rolled back the app to the older version.
>> 
>> Based on this, I think we can continue to sync apps from iTunes keeping in 
>> mind the following caveats:
>> 
>> 1. You can’t ever copy in the other direction (from an iDevice to iTunes) 
>> due to app thinning. However, from the Store tab in the iTunes preferences 
>> window you can configure your computers to download newly purchased apps 
>> automatically, thus giving you a local copy in iTunes that can be used later.
>> 2. The auto-download feature won’t keep apps up to date. For example, if you 
>> have automatic downloads on and purchase BlindSquare for the first time, a 
>> local copy will download to your computers but future updates won’t 
>> automatically download—even if you update on your iDevice. To work around 
>> this, you can manually update from the apps section within iTunes. So, if 
>> you’ve kept your favourite reading app up to date from the apps section in 
>> iTunes and then a new version comes out that breaks accessibility, you 
>> should be able to roll back.
>> 3. I’m not sure what the situation is for devices restored from iTunes 
>> backups and would love if someone could investigate during their next 
>> restore. I listened to Jonathan’s podcast and it certainly seemed like apps 
>> were being downloaded from iCloud so I’m not sure whether there’s a 
>> workaround there or what might have been happening. However, that would make 
>> sense if the required content wasn’t available in the iTunes library to 
>> begin with or if iTunes wasn’t configured to copy apps to the phone.
>> 
>> Would love to hear your thoughts.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Grant
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Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Donna]

Ah thanks for this. Now I know what I was doing wrong. I didn't select the 
emogi keyboard. I assumed that the emogi would only appear in the rotor if 
emogis were available to replace words. 

Donna
> 
> I have not tried this, but according to Anna’s message, quoted below, you 
> have to first switch to the Emoji keyboard.  There is a button just to the 
> right of the “More numbers” button in the lower left corner that should allow 
> you to switch to the Emoji keyboard.  If that isn’t there, you need to go 
> into Settings, General, Keyboard and add the Emoji keyboard.
> Here is what Anna wrote, which she credits to Jonathan Mosen’s book:
> After you type your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a 
> rotor item called Emojis; turn the rotor to  that. When you flick down, 
> you'll be told when you're on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It 
> will say whether there's one option or several. If there's one, double-tap to 
> make the replacement. If there's more than one choice, flick left and right 
> to move through them, and double-tap the one you want.   
>  
> HTH,
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Beth G
> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?
>  
> Hi,
> 
> I am still unable to figure out how to do this. When I type the phrase I love 
> pizza and use the rotor, there is no Emoji option. What am I doing wrong? I 
> have checked in roter settings but do not see anything there either
>  
> 
>  
> Thanks,
> 
> Beth Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Gosh. I bet he has some contact in Apple or something. No one on the beta 
> list could figure it out, lol.
> 
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>  
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ron Pelletier  
> wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> That’s where I got it also.  Thanks to Jonathan
>  
> Ron & Danvers
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 12:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?
>  
> Hi Devin,
>  
> Thank Jonathan Mosen. I learned about it from his book.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
>  
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>  
> Thank you, Anna. I went through the beta program, and no one even knew about 
> that trick, lol.
> 
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>  
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi Jennifer,
>  
> I think the substitution of emojis only happens in Messages. After you type 
> your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a rotor item called 
> Emojis; turn the rotor to that. When you flick down, you'll be told when 
> you're on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It will say whether 
> there's one option or several. If there's one, double-tap to make the 
> replacement. If there's more than one choice, flick left and right to move 
> through them, and double-tap the one you want.
>  
> HTH,
> Anna
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> I read that imoje's can replace words? Is this only in iMessages? Or in any 
> text field? Also, how do I find where to insert them in a block of text I've 
> written? 
> Thanks.
>  
> 
> Jenifer Barr
> Jenifer571 on dice world
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Re: Muffled Voiceover

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

Try to make a call and disconnect it, the muffled voice will be cured.

On 9/17/16, Gordon  wrote:
> Have you turned voice over on and off? I've noticed with the iPhone that
> things don't often get fixed with just a restart of the phone. For
> example the bug in IOS 9 where voice over would stutter when using the
> phone app some times, mine still stuttered some times even after a
> restart, but turning voice over off and back on fixed it. This kind of
> surprised me because I would think that a reboot would stop and restart
> everything. Another thing I've done that cleared up strange issues was
> to clear the phone ram. This is where you hold down the power button
> until it says power off, but don't hit the power off button on the
> screen. Instead, put your finger on home until the phone starts speaking
> again.
>
>
> On 9/16/2016 8:54 PM, Brandon Olivares wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> My wife just got her iPhone 7. It sounded okay at first, but in the middle
>> of setup, she received a phone call.
>>
>> Now the voice sounds muffled, as though she’s on the phone and on
>> speaker.
>>
>> We’ve tried restarting the phone, and several other things, but it isn’t
>> working. Any idea what I could do?
>>
>> Brandon
>>
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Re: OK Google

[Kevin Chao]

"OK GOogle" will only work in the iOS Google app. THere is no global speech
recognition/hotwording  iOS API from Apple.

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 11:01 AM Marie  wrote:

> I have an Android device and one of the few things I like better on it
> than on the IPhone is OK Google. Is there any way to get it to be available
> at all times on the IPhone? I know this is probably not possible since it
> is not a part of the OS but Just wishful thinking on my part.
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OK Google

[Marie]

I have an Android device and one of the few things I like better on it than on 
the IPhone is OK Google. Is there any way to get it to be available at all 
times on the IPhone? I know this is probably not possible since it is not a 
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Re: Getting rid of unnecessary mailboxes such as all unread, all drafts, ETC.

[christopher hallsworth]

Think I saw this as a minor bug listed on Applevis regarding accessibility bugs 
in iOS 10.
> On 17 Sep 2016, at 18:27, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> So, I've figured out what's going on. It turns out that VoiceOver isn't 
> reporting whether a mailbox has been selected or not when tapping on it  
> after entering edit mode. Can other people confirm this, in case it's just my 
> phone beinn weird?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:56 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> In iOS 9, I used to be able to tap on edit in the list of mailboxes and 
>> delete the mailboxes I didn't want to see. In iOS 10, I can no longer do 
>> this. Can I get rid of them, or am I stuck with them?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
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Re: Top tip - copy last spoken text to the clipboard

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Sandy,

If you have a Mac and an iOS device,  running Sierra and iOS 10, you can copy 
something to the clipboard on one device and paste it onto the other.

Best,
Anna


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:39 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> Haven't updated yet, on holiday, no Wi-Fi… but did I not read somewhere that 
> there has been changes and enhancements to clipboard functionality? has 
> anyone played with it?
> All the best, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 16 Sep 2016, at 23:41, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I think it was in iOS 8, definitely not later, maybe already iOS 7.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 5:20 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Top tip - copy last spoken text to the clipboard
>> 
>> I'm not sure when it showed up, but it's not new in IOS 10.
>> 
>>> On 16/09/16 03:42, Robin Christopherson wrote:
>>> Dear listers
>>> 
>>> You guys probably all knew this already but yesterday I stumbled upon 
>>> a really useful gesture in iOS. No idea if it’s new in iOS10 or been 
>>> around for a while.
>>> 
>>> Do a three finger quadruple tap and you will copy the last spoken text 
>>> to the clipboard. You can check you are getting the gesture right by 
>>> first doing a four finger double tap to turn help mode on in which the 
>>> action of all subsequent gestures are spoken rather than actioned. 
>>> When in help mode try the three finger quadruple tap. To get out of 
>>> help mode just do the four finger double tap again.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Robin
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Re: STEPS FOR A FULL BACKUP OF DATA IN ITUNES, PLEASE!

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Carol,

Connect your phone, choose iPhone in iTunes, and go through the summary page 
and make sure Encrypted Backup is on and that you know the password it will 
use. Then in the File menu, choose Devices, then Back Up. iTunes will back up 
your phone.

Best,
Anna


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> Hi all,
> 
> 
> I know this has been covered but I'm still not quite clear on the process so 
> would be really glad of a full explanation, if possible, because I am one of 
> those who actually loaths Itunes with a passion ...
> 
> 
> I want to do an encripted backup before upgrading and I'd like to do it in 
> the next few days, so, if anyone could help, this would be most useful.
> 
> 
> Specifically I do need to understand if I have to check things to ensure I 
> get everything backed up.
> 
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> Thanks.
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> Carol P
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Re: Restoring iPhone 7 from iCloud backup

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Wayne,

First, I would make sure your Internet connection is working properly. If it 
is, check your old phone to see when it was backed up last & do another backup 
to be sure everything is backed up. Then go to Settings/General/Reset/Erase on 
the new phone, erase  all, and try restoring from the backup again. I had 
something similar happen Where I tried to restore from iTunes and only got a 
few apps. Fortunately, the second attempt went fine.

Good luck,
Anna


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> All,
> Last night I got my new iPhone 7! Yay! When setting up the phone I was asked 
> what method I wanted to use to restore my information. I chose the most 
> recent iCloud backup that I had made. When checking my phone an hour ago 
> though, it looked like a brand new phone does. None of my apps and folders 
> that I had on the 6S were showing on the new 7. This is the first time 
> something like this has happened to me, each time before when I had restored 
> from iCloud, all of my stuff came back. What do I need to do to get 
> everything on the 7 like I had it on my 6S? Do I need to start over by 
> erasing all data and setting up the 7 all over again? Please help!! All of my 
> settings, app purchases, and app positions have been erased on the new 7. I 
> really don't want to have to download each app all over again and arrange 
> them, but I've got nothing else going on this weekend, grin.
> 
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RE: No items found msg.

[Andrew McKay]

I get it all the time on my 6S plus.  I am convinced it is tied into 
searches—doing a three finger swipe down and performing a search.  I do that a 
lot and it seems to do it not long after I’ve done that.

 

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Kevin Chao
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No items found msg.

 

I saw it on my 6S and even my 7 that I setup as new.

 

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 9:12 AM Kevin Chao  > wrote:

I've seen "no items found" message even during the betas, but no one else was 
able to repro.

 

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:31 AM Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:

 Hello Siri secret OK are you wearing make phone restart but I don't have a 
Bluetooth keyboard connected to my phone so I don't know what is it this 
message.

 

Ramy moustafa saber

Musicc instructor at:

faculty of musical education

music arranger and sound engineer

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 17, 2016, at 12:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:

Is your screen locked? Are you maybe using a bluetooth keyboard which gets 
pressed?

I would, first of all, turn the phone off, wait 30 seconds and then turn it 
back on and see if this helps.

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:13 AM
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Subject: No items found msg.

 

Hi all my friends:

after installing the ios10, i always get a message: taying that no items found, 
i didn't even touch the phone, so what shall i do?

thanks. 

 

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Re: No items found msg.

[Kevin Chao]

I saw it on my 6S and even my 7 that I setup as new.

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 9:12 AM Kevin Chao  wrote:

> I've seen "no items found" message even during the betas, but no one else
> was able to repro.
>
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> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:31 AM Ramy Moustafa 
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>>  Hello Siri secret OK are you wearing make phone restart but I don't have
>> a Bluetooth keyboard connected to my phone so I don't know what is it this
>> message.
>>
>> Ramy moustafa saber
>> Musicc instructor at:
>> faculty of musical education
>> music arranger and sound engineer
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 12:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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>> Is your screen locked? Are you maybe using a bluetooth keyboard which
>> gets pressed?
>>
>> I would, first of all, turn the phone off, wait 30 seconds and then turn
>> it back on and see if this helps.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Ramy Moustafa
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 10:13 AM
>> *To:* V Iphone 
>> *Subject:* No items found msg.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all my friends:
>>
>> after installing the ios10, i always get a message: taying that no items
>> found, i didn't even touch the phone, so what shall i do?
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ramy moustafa saber
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>> Musicc instructor at:
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Re: Please Confirm a VoiceOver Bug in Native iOS 10 Mail App Regarding Threaded View

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi, Mark!
If I understand this correctly it has some logic to me.
I believe what Apple tried to do in iOS 10 version of Mail app is
  to make mail corespondence look like conversation. Something like
  iMessages or texts. If ther original messages would be on every
  single thread it would be a large clutter. I agree finding the
  original message is now bit hard to find but I can't see better
  solution. That's I usually don't use threads because it is
  confusing me with all those multiple levels, different branches,
  following who answered what and to whom... 

I'll turn on threading and check out how it works and if I find
  something I'll let you all know but I hardly consider this a bug.



  S poštovanjem
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17.9.2016. u 9:36, M. Taylor je
  napisao/la:


  Hello Everyone,

There have been so many posts sent lately that I have lost track so please
indulge me in asking for confirmation of a very annoying bug in the native
iOS 10 Mail app, regarding the threaded view.

Here are my major settings for Mail.  

Preview, None.
Organize by Thread, On.
Most Recent Message on Top, Off.
Complete Thread, Off.

Here are the steps I take to read threads:

1.
Open the Mail app.

2.
Place focus on a collapsed thread.

3.
Select Expand Thread via the VoiceOver Rotor.  At this point, the thread
expands downward.  

4.
Now, I single-finger swipe to the right in order to move to the first
message listed below the subject line of the thread and, as is expected, the
text of the message is read, out by VoiceOver.

The problem is that, regardless of the status of the, "Most Recent Message
on Top", toggle, the first message just below the thread's subject line is
always the most recent post to the thread.  As a consequence, if I want to
read the original post to a thread, I have to swipe all the way down to the
bottom of the list area and reverse swipe back up.  

Does this make sense and are any of you encountering this issue?  

Again, thank you for your indulgence on this.

Mark





  




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Re: Getting rid of unnecessary mailboxes such as all unread, all drafts, ETC.

[englishrider91]

So, I've figured out what's going on. It turns out that VoiceOver isn't 
reporting whether a mailbox has been selected or not when tapping on it  after 
entering edit mode. Can other people confirm this, in case it's just my phone 
beinn weird?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:56 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> In iOS 9, I used to be able to tap on edit in the list of mailboxes and 
> delete the mailboxes I didn't want to see. In iOS 10, I can no longer do 
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Re: Message Effects do Work, here's how!

[rajmund]

hi, good point.  They work here, and I have audio ducking off.  
Although, I've not received one, so far, so not sure about when 
and if you receive.


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Re: Please Confirm a VoiceOver Bug in Native iOS 10 Mail App Regarding Threaded View

[englishrider91]

Um, I think you meant to send that last message privately. It came to the list.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Stephanie Mitchell  
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> Of course I didn't think you were drunk! knew it was your meds. You were 
> totally fine just sounded a bit off... I will pray the pain subsides a bit. 
> Maybe you should take the meds more often, even if you don't like it. I mean 
> that amount of pain isn't healthy long term... And I didn't think you were 
> complaining. can write any time you like if you are having a hard time... 
> that's what friends in Christ do... by the way, I'm beyond excited because 
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Re: the rotor and email

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi, Regina!
Congrats on the new device!
Mary already gave an idea and here's another one. 

When I first began to use rotor I was rotating the hand and the
  phone and it was very inconvinient and it probably looked silly
  for those who saw it xD. So I developed another method:
I put my thumb somewhere in the middle of the screen and while
  keeping it down I flick with pointer or middle finger left and
  right and it does perform like rotation does. I don't know will
  this help your friend but it's worth a try.



  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

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  For a friend If I turn off threading, does the mail work as
before except it is not in threads? I ask this as my friend
cannot make the rotor gesture because her hands cannot do it.
Can I suggest a way to use the rotor doing the motion any other
way? It is sad there is no other way to access the rotor but the
knob turn. People with bad hands are left out. Some great things
with the rotor.

I worked with mail quite a bit yesterday, and I really like it.
One thing that I found was that when you enter the message
screen sometimes the rotor doesn't flip to messages so you have
to check it. Other than that, I really like it as you can go
through them all and then delete them. Well, a lot of ways to do
this, but I do like the change. 

I received my 7 256 megabytes today. I probably would have been
alright with a 32 or 128, but I could get the 256 for the same
as the 128. So, why not. 
  
  

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Re: iMessage screen effects are working

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
Does the other side have reduced motion enabled?



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17.9.2016. u 0:21, Sieghard Weitzel je
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If
I send a message with, for example, fireworks, I gett eh
sound effect and I assume the visual effect when the message
is sent, but any messages with effects coming in just
describe the effect. I hope Apple will fix this because in
addition to the description I don't understand why they
wouldn't also display the visuals and play any associated
audio when Voiceover is running.
 
 

  
From:
viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lynette frison
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 3:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessage screen effects are working
  

 

  
I didn't notice the sound effects but I
  have an iPhone 5s so maybe somethings don't work on an
  older model.
  
  
Sent from my iPhone


  
On Sep 16, 2016, at 5:15 AM, rajmund 
wrote:


  
Hello,
  Anyone noticed how the screen effects have sound effects?
  Unfortunately, the friend I was testing it on, went mental
  with me, within like 2 seconds.  They're like on IOS9, as
  well.  Still, even that, said message sent with fireworks.
   They use voiceover, too, so not sure how it would have
  looked like.
  
  Sent from a BrailleNote
  
  - Original Message -
  From: "1baby1...@gmail.com"
  <1baby1...@gmail.com
  To: VIPhone 

Re: Message Effects do Work, here's how!

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
I could hear the fireworks and lasers after I send them and I
  have confirmation fireworks could be heard on the other side. I
  also hear VO description. Maybe this is because I don't use Audio
  Ducking.



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16.9.2016. u 23:36, Sieghard Weitzel je
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A
nice summary and description, Chris, just wanted to add to
this that if Voiceover is running the effects don't actually
play when a message is received but instead you get the
description as Chris described. I was sending messages to my
wife who was right next to me and I still had Voiceover on
and was wondering why the fireworks and so on didn't play,
then as soon as we turned off Voiceover all was as it should
be.
It
also seems that once the message is received that if you go
back to it in the conversation it no longers has the effect
description.
 
Lastly,
my wife sent me a message where she used handwriting as I
was curious as to what Voiceover would do with that. She
just wrote "Hi" and Voiceover said the message had
handwriting and "2 strokes".
I
then tried it and wrote something and Voiceover said it had
9 strokes, but of course there is no way for Voiceover to
figure out what it says which is expected.
 
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 

  
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jenifer Barr
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message Effects do Work, here's how!
  

 

  
Thanks Chris.
  
  
 
  
  
Jenifer Barr
  
Jenifer571 on dice world
  
  
Sent
from my iPhone
  


  
On Sep 15, 2016, at 10:05 PM, Chris Chaffin 
wrote:


  

  OK, I am running iOS 10 on an iPhone 6, and message
  effects works fine for me.
  The way I tested it, and to see what it is like, is I sent
  messages to myself.  I know, boring, but it works!! :)
  
  To get message effects to work, just do a double tap and
  hold on the send button and a pop up window will appear.
   Now there is no sound with the pop up window, and
  sometimes voice over does not focus on it, but if you
  explore the screen a little, then try swiping left or
  right, you will find yourself in the effects window.
  Now there is two types of effects, bubbles and screen.
   Bubbles are selected by default.  If you land on bubbles,
  you will notice that voice over says, bubbles selected,
  one of two.
  Now there is three or four different bubbles to choose
  from, Slam, loud, gentle, and one more that I can not
  remember, smiles!  I sent myself a test message with a
  slam bubble effect, when the message came in, voice over
  said something like, a message from Chris comes slamming
  in with dust flying up around it.  So voice over does
  describe the effect, so that is pretty cool!!
  
  Now, in the pop up window, if you swipe one time past
  bubbles, you will hear screen.  This is the second type of
  effect, so just double tap it to bring up the screen
  choices.
  Now if you swipe right you will come to the first of five
  screen choices, balloons.  This is a button, so just
  double tap it to send the balloon effect with your
  message.
  If you swipe past balloons, first is a close button, then
  you will find a counter, and it will say, one of five.  To
  move between the different screen effects, just flick up
  or down with one finger.
  As screen effects you have, balloons, confetti, lasers,
  fireworks, and shooting star.
  
   

Re: Experimenting with app thinning and copying apps from my iTunes library

[Alan Lemly]

Grant and mark, 

Thanks for this excellent post and for your original post about a year ago, 
mark. I also use iTunes to download app updates done on my iPhone to my 
computer shortly after the update. I've not had to do a restore since Ios 9 
came out but I'm encouraged that Grant was successful in rolling back to an 
older version on his computer using Itunes. 

It sounds like those of us who have backups of these older versions will still 
be able to use them even with app thinning. 

I'll make sure to post my experience the first time I do a restore under this 
app thinning regime. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 11:22 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Grant,
> 
> Your conclusions are absolutely correct.  
> 
> Several times during a week when I update apps on my iOS devices, I open 
> iTunes and update them on the computer, as well, so as to have a good backup 
> version.  
> 
> I posted about this a year or so ago but I don't think it was well received 
> as this method is somewhat counter intuitive to the classic way apps used to 
> be handled.  
> 
> Regardless, an excellent post and I hope many benefit from it.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Grant
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 3:06 PM
> To: Viphone List
> Subject: Experimenting with app thinning and copying apps from my iTunes 
> library
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I believe it’s still possible to sync apps to iDevices from your iTunes 
> library as of iOS 10. I just successfully copied an older version of the Tile 
> app from my Mac to my iPhone. Once the sync process began, the app showed up 
> on my home screen and displayed “loading” just as it would if it were being 
> downloaded from iCloud, but I’m pretty sure it was in fact copying from my 
> local library and iTunes displayed status info to verify this. Now I’ve 
> successfully rolled back the app to the older version.
> 
> Based on this, I think we can continue to sync apps from iTunes keeping in 
> mind the following caveats:
> 
> 1. You can’t ever copy in the other direction (from an iDevice to iTunes) due 
> to app thinning. However, from the Store tab in the iTunes preferences window 
> you can configure your computers to download newly purchased apps 
> automatically, thus giving you a local copy in iTunes that can be used later.
> 2. The auto-download feature won’t keep apps up to date. For example, if you 
> have automatic downloads on and purchase BlindSquare for the first time, a 
> local copy will download to your computers but future updates won’t 
> automatically download—even if you update on your iDevice. To work around 
> this, you can manually update from the apps section within iTunes. So, if 
> you’ve kept your favourite reading app up to date from the apps section in 
> iTunes and then a new version comes out that breaks accessibility, you should 
> be able to roll back.
> 3. I’m not sure what the situation is for devices restored from iTunes 
> backups and would love if someone could investigate during their next 
> restore. I listened to Jonathan’s podcast and it certainly seemed like apps 
> were being downloaded from iCloud so I’m not sure whether there’s a 
> workaround there or what might have been happening. However, that would make 
> sense if the required content wasn’t available in the iTunes library to begin 
> with or if iTunes wasn’t configured to copy apps to the phone.
> 
> Would love to hear your thoughts.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: On screen braille input, when was it introduced?

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi, Mary!
I believe it was 8.
Regarding upgrading to larger phone my experience is I typed
  better on 4S than I type now on 6S Plus.
I'm experienced in Braille typing, started way back with Braille
  Touch and MBraille and with BSI from iOS 8 and I was better on
  small display.
Braille Screen Input is nice but, unfortunately, I'm sticking
  with MBraille since BSI still doesn't support my language and I
  can't preview the text without leaving the Braille Input mode. I'm
  using it for short notes or messages when I skip diacritic
  characters but for more serious work I can't live without
  MBraille.
I also miss the clicks while I'm typing and I don't want to hear
  the letters Itype. Try it out and if you'd like it my suggestion
  is to purchase MBraille.



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16.9.2016. u 18:03, Mary Otten je
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  Which version of iOS saw the introduction of on screen braille input? I am newly interested in this mode, because I will be getting a larger phone, and because you can now use contracted braille. But I need to go back and find a basic tutorial on it's methodology. I thought it was iOS 9, but my quick perusal of Jonathan's iOS 9 book didn't turn that up. So it must've been iOS 8, or my search wasn't thorough enough.
Mary


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RE: Experimenting with app thinning and copying apps from my iTunes library

[M. Taylor]

Grant,

Your conclusions are absolutely correct.  

Several times during a week when I update apps on my iOS devices, I open iTunes 
and update them on the computer, as well, so as to have a good backup version.  

I posted about this a year or so ago but I don't think it was well received as 
this method is somewhat counter intuitive to the classic way apps used to be 
handled.  

Regardless, an excellent post and I hope many benefit from it.

Mark

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Grant
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 3:06 PM
To: Viphone List
Subject: Experimenting with app thinning and copying apps from my iTunes library

Hi all,

I believe it’s still possible to sync apps to iDevices from your iTunes library 
as of iOS 10. I just successfully copied an older version of the Tile app from 
my Mac to my iPhone. Once the sync process began, the app showed up on my home 
screen and displayed “loading” just as it would if it were being downloaded 
from iCloud, but I’m pretty sure it was in fact copying from my local library 
and iTunes displayed status info to verify this. Now I’ve successfully rolled 
back the app to the older version.

Based on this, I think we can continue to sync apps from iTunes keeping in mind 
the following caveats:

1. You can’t ever copy in the other direction (from an iDevice to iTunes) due 
to app thinning. However, from the Store tab in the iTunes preferences window 
you can configure your computers to download newly purchased apps 
automatically, thus giving you a local copy in iTunes that can be used later.
2. The auto-download feature won’t keep apps up to date. For example, if you 
have automatic downloads on and purchase BlindSquare for the first time, a 
local copy will download to your computers but future updates won’t 
automatically download—even if you update on your iDevice. To work around this, 
you can manually update from the apps section within iTunes. So, if you’ve kept 
your favourite reading app up to date from the apps section in iTunes and then 
a new version comes out that breaks accessibility, you should be able to roll 
back.
3. I’m not sure what the situation is for devices restored from iTunes backups 
and would love if someone could investigate during their next restore. I 
listened to Jonathan’s podcast and it certainly seemed like apps were being 
downloaded from iCloud so I’m not sure whether there’s a workaround there or 
what might have been happening. However, that would make sense if the required 
content wasn’t available in the iTunes library to begin with or if iTunes 
wasn’t configured to copy apps to the phone.

Would love to hear your thoughts.

Thanks,

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Re: App Store and itunes

[Kevin Chao]

I found "agree" at bottom-right, so was able to  explore-by-touch and
split-tap it.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:50 PM 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone <
viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> That message and agreement seems to be appearing regardless of whether
> you've updated or not. I've not updated my IPhone yet and the message still
> came up when I went to update some apps. The agree button was just at the
> bottom of the screen and wasn't a problem to find.
>
> Eleanor
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 17 Sep 2016, at 00:05, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> For me the Agree button was right there at the bottom of the screen
> without even scrolling down to the last page. You can also try a 4-finger
> tap near the bottom of the screen.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten
> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 3:55 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: App Store and itunes
>
>
>
> Hi Andy,
> I got that big fat agreement as well, but in my case, I had the form
> controls setting in the rotor and set to it and then flick and found a
> disagree button. At that point flicking either to the right or the left, I
> forget which, found an agree button which I double tapped and presto.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>
> I have an iPhone 6 and when attempting to update apps I got a message
> saying iTunes conditions and terms have changed, and it gave a Cancel or Ok
> button. I hit OK and was presented with a 24 page license agreement. There
> was no way to go directly to the end, so I paged through the entire thing.
> After reading page 24 I could not find an agree button. There was a Next
> Page button but when double tapping it, nothing happened. This situation
> existed before and after the update to IOS 10, so that is not an issue.
> Incidentally, the update to 10 went without a hitch. Has anyone encountered
> this issue with the app store and how did you agree to the license
> agreement?
>
>
>
> Andy
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Re: No items found msg.

[Kevin Chao]

I've seen "no items found" message even during the betas, but no one else
was able to repro.

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:31 AM Ramy Moustafa 
wrote:

>  Hello Siri secret OK are you wearing make phone restart but I don't have
> a Bluetooth keyboard connected to my phone so I don't know what is it this
> message.
>
> Ramy moustafa saber
> Musicc instructor at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 17, 2016, at 12:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> Is your screen locked? Are you maybe using a bluetooth keyboard which gets
> pressed?
>
> I would, first of all, turn the phone off, wait 30 seconds and then turn
> it back on and see if this helps.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Ramy Moustafa
> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 10:13 AM
> *To:* V Iphone 
> *Subject:* No items found msg.
>
>
>
> Hi all my friends:
>
> after installing the ios10, i always get a message: taying that no items
> found, i didn't even touch the phone, so what shall i do?
>
> thanks.
>
>
>
> Ramy moustafa saber
>
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Re: apple watch auto speak

[Chris Chaffin]

Auto speak is a new feature.  For any watch complication that you have auto 
speak turned on, then when you tap on the screen, it will announce the time and 
any auto speak items.
For example, if you have auto speak turned on for your weather complication, 
then when you tap on the screen, it will tell you the time plus the weather.

I would recommend checking out AppleVis, David Woodbridge did several podcast 
demoing and going over each of the new features.

Hope this helps,

Chris


> On Sep 17, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Fanus  wrote:
> 
> Hello list
> When I swipe up or down on the screen there is an item “enable auto speak”. 
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Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Beth G]

It must be hit and miss for me as well. I have the Emoji keyboard on my phone 
and can switch back-and-forth easily to it. However, there is no Emoji option 
in the rotor when I use it.


Thank you for repeating the instructions I missed that message originally.

Thanks again,

Beth

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I have not tried this, but according to Anna’s message, quoted below, you 
> have to first switch to the Emoji keyboard.  There is a button just to the 
> right of the “More numbers” button in the lower left corner that should allow 
> you to switch to the Emoji keyboard.  If that isn’t there, you need to go 
> into Settings, General, Keyboard and add the Emoji keyboard.
> Here is what Anna wrote, which she credits to Jonathan Mosen’s book:
> After you type your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a 
> rotor item called Emojis; turn the rotor to  that. When you flick down, 
> you'll be told when you're on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It 
> will say whether there's one option or several. If there's one, double-tap to 
> make the replacement. If there's more than one choice, flick left and right 
> to move through them, and double-tap the one you want.   
>  
> HTH,
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Beth G
> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?
>  
> Hi,
> 
> I am still unable to figure out how to do this. When I type the phrase I love 
> pizza and use the rotor, there is no Emoji option. What am I doing wrong? I 
> have checked in roter settings but do not see anything there either
>  
> 
>  
> Thanks,
> 
> Beth Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Gosh. I bet he has some contact in Apple or something. No one on the beta 
> list could figure it out, lol.
> 
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>  
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ron Pelletier  
> wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> That’s where I got it also.  Thanks to Jonathan
>  
> Ron & Danvers
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 12:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?
>  
> Hi Devin,
>  
> Thank Jonathan Mosen. I learned about it from his book.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
>  
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>  
> Thank you, Anna. I went through the beta program, and no one even knew about 
> that trick, lol.
> 
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>  
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi Jennifer,
>  
> I think the substitution of emojis only happens in Messages. After you type 
> your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a rotor item called 
> Emojis; turn the rotor to that. When you flick down, you'll be told when 
> you're on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It will say whether 
> there's one option or several. If there's one, double-tap to make the 
> replacement. If there's more than one choice, flick left and right to move 
> through them, and double-tap the one you want.
>  
> HTH,
> Anna
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> I read that imoje's can replace words? Is this only in iMessages? Or in any 
> text field? Also, how do I find where to insert them in a block of text I've 
> written? 
> Thanks.
>  
> 
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Re: tune in premium prices

[Chris Chaffin]

I am personally paying $9.99 a month, but I also know some are paying $7.99 a 
month, so I would recommend contacting the developer to see what the difference 
is between the 2 prices before signing up.

Chris


> On Sep 17, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
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> I'm paying $9.99 a month and I signed up right before the NFL regular season 
> started. BTW, this is the easiest and most convenient way I've used to access 
> NFL games ever. It beats the old NFL Audio Pass and the tricks I tried using 
> all last season. Plus I've used it for college football games, and I think 
> I'll be using it for the NBA and NCAA basketball games as well.
> 
>> On 17/09/16 09:05, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> There’s only one plan, it’s $7.99/month.
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Larry McCreary  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am considering obtain a subscription premium for nfl on tunein.  There 
>>> was some discussion here a few weeks ago about pricing.  There are plans 
>>> for approximately $8.00 and $10.00.  What would it cost to obtain the nil 
>>> premium plan?
>>> Thanks much.
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apple watch auto speak

[Fanus]

Hello list
When I swipe up or down on the screen there is an item “enable auto speak”. 
What is the purpose of this?
Regards
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Re: Watch-OS3 update caused many head akes

[Chris Chaffin]

Updating my watch went just fine.  I have not had any problems.  My watch is 
not behaving anything like yours.  I can swipe around the screen just like 
before just fine.
I would recommend 2 things:

*  I would do a hard restart of the watch.
*  If that does not work, then I would reset the watch back to factory settings.

You could also give Apple Accessibility a call or take it to your local Apple 
Store.

Chris


> On Sep 17, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Fanus  wrote:
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> Hello list
> After updating the watch did not require the setup process but it was totally 
> unuseable, no voice over. I managed to get a reset done and after a few shut 
> down and restarts the watch works but for some reason it jumps to another 
> clock face just when I touch the screen. The watch is also not so responsive 
> as with the previous version of the software and I do not know why but the 
> screen is not so sensitive. Sometimes I have to tap or swipe a few times to 
> get it to react, for example it is difficult to enter my passcode. I did not 
> drop the watch so I can not find a solution. Has anyone experienced this 
> behaviour?
> Regards
> Fanus
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Re: tune in premium prices

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm paying $9.99 a month and I signed up right before the NFL regular 
season started. BTW, this is the easiest and most convenient way I've 
used to access NFL games ever. It beats the old NFL Audio Pass and the 
tricks I tried using all last season. Plus I've used it for college 
football games, and I think I'll be using it for the NBA and NCAA 
basketball games as well.


On 17/09/16 09:05, Daniel Miller wrote:

There’s only one plan, it’s $7.99/month.


On Sep 17, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Larry McCreary  wrote:

I am considering obtain a subscription premium for nfl on tunein.  There was 
some discussion here a few weeks ago about pricing.  There are plans for 
approximately $8.00 and $10.00.  What would it cost to obtain the nil premium 
plan?
Thanks much.

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Re: Apple Watch Tutorial/podcast

[Kamal Haffar]

Thank you that's very helpful

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Shai  wrote:
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> Hi,
> I would recommend the podcasts or information that can be found on the
> AppleVis website under the getting started with Apple Watch section.
> If you go to www.applevis.com there is a link on this page that is
> called getting started with your first Apple Watch. Opening this link
> will display a series of podcasts that you could listen to on such
> items as pairing the watch to getting walking directions.
> I hope this helps
> 
>> On 9/17/16, Kamal Haffar  wrote:
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> Can you recommend a good podcast or tutorial for a new Voiceover Apple watch
>> user?
>> 
>> Thank you :-)
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Watch-OS3 update caused many head akes

[Fanus]

Hello list
After updating the watch did not require the setup process but it was totally 
unuseable, no voice over. I managed to get a reset done and after a few shut 
down and restarts the watch works but for some reason it jumps to another clock 
face just when I touch the screen. The watch is also not so responsive as with 
the previous version of the software and I do not know why but the screen is 
not so sensitive. Sometimes I have to tap or swipe a few times to get it to 
react, for example it is difficult to enter my passcode. I did not drop the 
watch so I can not find a solution. Has anyone experienced this behaviour?
Regards
Fanus
t

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Re: iPhone 7 wanting to restore from apple ID that doesn’t exist anymore

[terrie arnold]

Well I would suggest that you call the excess will help desk with Apple, they 
are wonderful people and can help you solve your problem on your phone so these 
are the people you need to go to that can help you solve this problem has taken 
I know what they're doing, but get the numbering call from a separate phone 
line so you can have your phone available to do whatever they suggest you do on 
your phone to Sofir

My thoughts for today

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:18 AM, kary johns  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> I received my iPhone 7 yesterday, but all didn’t go well.
> For some reason during setup it came up with an old apple id that
> doesn’t exist anymore, and hasn’t existed for at least  4 years.
> I skipped and setup continued with no problems.   I can purchase apps
> ect with know problems.  but every few minutes it now asks me to login
> with my old iTunes account.
> iCloud, iTunes, and everything else has my current ID, my current Id
> is in settings, I’ve erased and restored the phone, but every time
> the same thing happens.
> Anyone know what’s going on hear? I’ve never seen an iDevice do this
> before, and I’ve had iPhones rite back to the 3GS days.
> I don’t live near an apple store, so taking it in is not my best option.
> Hope someone can shed some light on this for me, I really want this
> phone working!
> thanks.
> Kari.
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Re: FitBit Charge 2

[Joney]

The heart rate updates constantly. On the Fitbit itself, it will show you that. 
The app also shows you an update, but you have to keep going to it. That's the 
only advantage to the watch that I know of. I use my Fitbit for heart rate as 
well. But I don't get as many options in the app, as you do on the Fitbit 
itself. The app has an update, and I haven't looked at the heart rate there. 
Perhaps it is a little more choose a book?

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> On Sep 17, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
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> Does anyone know if there is a way to have your heart rate updated frequently 
> to make sure you are in the zone that you want for cardio workouts?
>  
> Also, the Charge 2 seems very accurate as far as wearing it on your wrist 
> while on a treadmill.
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Re: Apple Watch Tutorial/podcast

[Shai]

Hi,
I would recommend the podcasts or information that can be found on the
AppleVis website under the getting started with Apple Watch section.
If you go to www.applevis.com there is a link on this page that is
called getting started with your first Apple Watch. Opening this link
will display a series of podcasts that you could listen to on such
items as pairing the watch to getting walking directions.
I hope this helps

On 9/17/16, Kamal Haffar  wrote:
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> user?
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RE: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Richard Turner]

I have not tried this, but according to Anna’s message, quoted below, you have 
to first switch to the Emoji keyboard.  There is a button just to the right of 
the “More numbers” button in the lower left corner that should allow you to 
switch to the Emoji keyboard.  If that isn’t there, you need to go into 
Settings, General, Keyboard and add the Emoji keyboard.
Here is what Anna wrote, which she credits to Jonathan Mosen’s book:
After you type your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a rotor 
item called Emojis; turn the rotor to  that. When you flick down, you'll be 
told when you're on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It will say 
whether there's one option or several. If there's one, double-tap to make the 
replacement. If there's more than one choice, flick left and right to move 
through them, and double-tap the one you want.

HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Beth G
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

Hi,

I am still unable to figure out how to do this. When I type the phrase I love 
pizza and use the rotor, there is no Emoji option. What am I doing wrong? I 
have checked in roter settings but do not see anything there either


Thanks,

Beth Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Devin Prater 
> wrote:
Gosh. I bet he has some contact in Apple or something. No one on the beta list 
could figure it out, lol.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ron Pelletier 
> wrote:
Hi,

That’s where I got it also.  Thanks to Jonathan

Ron & Danvers


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

Hi Devin,

Thank Jonathan Mosen. I learned about it from his book.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:24 AM, Devin Prater 
> wrote:

Thank you, Anna. I went through the beta program, and no one even knew about 
that trick, lol.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Woody Anna Dresner 
> wrote:
Hi Jennifer,

I think the substitution of emojis only happens in Messages. After you type 
your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a rotor item called 
Emojis; turn the rotor to that. When you flick down, you'll be told when you're 
on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It will say whether there's one 
option or several. If there's one, double-tap to make the replacement. If 
there's more than one choice, flick left and right to move through them, and 
double-tap the one you want.

HTH,
Anna


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Jenifer Barr 
> wrote:
Hi all.
I read that imoje's can replace words? Is this only in iMessages? Or in any 
text field? Also, how do I find where to insert them in a block of text I've 
written?
Thanks.


Jenifer Barr
Jenifer571 on dice world
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Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Donna]

I find this feature to be hit or miss for me. After typing your message if you 
use the rotor there should be an emogi choice but not always for me. 

Donna
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am still unable to figure out how to do this. When I type the phrase I love 
> pizza and use the rotor, there is no Emoji option. What am I doing wrong? I 
> have checked in roter settings but do not see anything there either
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Beth Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> Gosh. I bet he has some contact in Apple or something. No one on the beta 
>> list could figure it out, lol.
>> 
>> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ron Pelletier  
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> That’s where I got it also.  Thanks to Jonathan
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Ron & Danvers
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Woody Anna Dresner
>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 12:32 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Hi Devin,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thank Jonathan Mosen. I learned about it from his book.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thank you, Anna. I went through the beta program, and no one even knew 
>>> about that trick, lol.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jennifer,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I think the substitution of emojis only happens in Messages. After you type 
>>> your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a rotor item called 
>>> Emojis; turn the rotor to that. When you flick down, you'll be told when 
>>> you're on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It will say whether 
>>> there's one option or several. If there's one, double-tap to make the 
>>> replacement. If there's more than one choice, flick left and right to move 
>>> through them, and double-tap the one you want.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> I read that imoje's can replace words? Is this only in iMessages? Or in any 
>>> text field? Also, how do I find where to insert them in a block of text 
>>> I've written? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jenifer Barr
>>> 
>>> Jenifer571 on dice world
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Beth G]

Hi,

I am still unable to figure out how to do this. When I type the phrase I love 
pizza and use the rotor, there is no Emoji option. What am I doing wrong? I 
have checked in roter settings but do not see anything there either



Thanks,

Beth Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Gosh. I bet he has some contact in Apple or something. No one on the beta 
> list could figure it out, lol.
> 
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ron Pelletier  
>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> That’s where I got it also.  Thanks to Jonathan
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Ron & Danvers
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Woody Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 12:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Devin,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thank Jonathan Mosen. I learned about it from his book.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Anna
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thank you, Anna. I went through the beta program, and no one even knew about 
>> that trick, lol.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jennifer,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I think the substitution of emojis only happens in Messages. After you type 
>> your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a rotor item called 
>> Emojis; turn the rotor to that. When you flick down, you'll be told when 
>> you're on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It will say whether 
>> there's one option or several. If there's one, double-tap to make the 
>> replacement. If there's more than one choice, flick left and right to move 
>> through them, and double-tap the one you want.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Anna
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> 
>> I read that imoje's can replace words? Is this only in iMessages? Or in any 
>> text field? Also, how do I find where to insert them in a block of text I've 
>> written? 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Jenifer Barr
>> 
>> Jenifer571 on dice world
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Podcasts app

[Russ Kiehne]

I’ve been using the stock podcast app on my 5th generation ipod touch running 
ios 9.3.5 with no problems.

From: Harry Bell 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Podcasts app

Thanks, Jewel! And still no new podcast downloads have come through! Must be an 
Apple problem. Harry

On 17 Sep 2016, at 01:49, Jewel  wrote:


  Same here Harry, and my IOS is still 9.3.5.

  Jewel

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  Subject: Podcasts app

  Running iOS 10 my podcasts app on iPhone 5s has been stuck on preparing to 
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FitBit Charge 2

[Lynda Ingraham]

Does anyone know if there is a way to have your heart rate updated
frequently to make sure you are in the zone that you want for cardio
workouts? 

 

Also, the Charge 2 seems very accurate as far as wearing it on your wrist
while on a treadmill. 

 

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Re: tune in premium prices

[Daniel Miller]

There’s only one plan, it’s $7.99/month.

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Larry McCreary  wrote:
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Re: iFixit teardown reveals exactly what replaced the iPhone 7’s headphone jack

[Russ Kiehne]

I found more info:

iFixit iPhone 7 Plus teardown reveals waterproofing details, battery size

iFixit has posted its 
complete teardown of the iPhone 7 Plus 
. As usual, the report confirms some specs and reveals a few new things. The 
dimensions of the new device are identical to those of the iPhone 6s Plus, 
although the report confirms that it’s slightly lighter than its predecessor. 
A1785 is the new model for the iPhone 7 Plus. The report also confirms that the 
headphone jack removal did indeed make room for the new Taptic engine, as 
Apple executives revealed last week 
, and that the second lower speaker grill is entirely cosmetic. 
The teardown also reveals that Apple is now using less common tri-point screws 
to secure some components, which iFixit concludes are simply used to hinder 
third-party battery and screen replacements. The headphone jack has also been 
replaced by a molded plastic component that appears to channel sound into the 
microphone, or out from the Taptic Engine. An x-ray of the Taptic Engine 
revealed a tiny linear actuator, some springs, and a weighted core. The battery 
in the iPhone 7 Plus is now rated at 3.82V and 11.1 Wh of power, which works 
out to 2900 mAh of capacity — an upgrade from last year’s 2750 mAh cell, but 
still a slight step down from the iPhone 6 Plus’ 2915 mAh version. The camera 
array includes two 12MP cameras, and the teardown confirms that only the 
wide-angle camera incorporates optical image stabilization. 
In terms of chip sets, the iPhone 7 Plus includes the expected Apple A10 Fusion 
CPU with a bump to 3GB of RAM, and a collection of radio and controller chips 
from Qualcomm, Skyworks, Avago, Universal Scientific, Texas Instruments, 
Toshiba, Murata, NXP, Cirrus Logic, and more. The teardown also revealed the 
areas where waterproofing has been applied, including strong adhesive strip 
sealings, more stickiness in opening the iPhone 7 Plus, the camera lenses being 
built into the chassis, substantial gasketing on the Lightning cable assembly 
and around the SIM plug and tray, and ingress protection on the speaker grills. 
However, the new model still includes a water damage indicator inside. 

From: Mary Otten 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iFixit teardown reveals exactly what replaced the iPhone 7’s 
headphone jack

Hi Sieghard, 
I did not research this for myself, but was told on another list where this 
topic came up for discussion that the Samsung S7 galaxy has the waterproof 
rating of 68, as opposed to the 67 that the new iPhones have.
Mary



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:31 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


  Hi Mary,

   

  What IPX rating does the Samsung phone have or is it waterproof by virtue of 
it bursting into flames so that any water may get burned off *smile*.

  Short of making the iPhone 7/7 Plus swim proof and giving it the same rating 
as the Apple Watch, IPX7 is as far as I can tell from Googling these standards 
the best there is, the test requires a device with IPX7 rating to survive being 
submersed in 3 feet of water for half an hour.

  This is the same rating and standard Garmin builts into all their handheld 
outdoor GPS units.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
  Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:58 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@freelists.org
  Subject: iFixit teardown reveals exactly what replaced the iPhone 7’s 
headphone jack

   

  So they have this new taptic engine, and some plastic piece. Now why did they 
have to take the headphone jack out if Samsung did not in order to make their 
galaxy even more waterproof them apple's device? That is a reasonable question 
I think. I am not arguing for the return of the headphone jack. But it would 
seem that it is not as simple as Apple would have  us think. Further, let us 
hope that this new engine stays around long enough to actually prove useful as 
opposed to the traditional home button. Rumors are already flying about how 
even the button that remains this year, which is attached so to speak to the 
new taptic engine, is going away next year.
  Mary
  iFixit teardown reveals exactly what replaced the iPhone 7’s headphone jack

  9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller







  As it does every year, device repair site iFixit is putting all of Apple’s 
new devices through the teardown process. This year, the site is tearing down 
the iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus, and Apple Watch 2. As usual, Apple leaves some 
details regarding the internals of its new devices a secret, but iFixit is able 
to figure out some of those secrets with its teardowns…

  In its iPhone 7 Plus teardown, iFixit notes of the similar teardown process 
to previous iPhone models. The classic Pentalobe screens are still there, while 
there are still two now-familiar screws guard each side of the Lightning 
connector. 

iPhone 7 wanting to restore from apple ID that doesn’t exist anymore

[kary johns]

Hi all,
I received my iPhone 7 yesterday, but all didn’t go well.
For some reason during setup it came up with an old apple id that
doesn’t exist anymore, and hasn’t existed for at least  4 years.
I skipped and setup continued with no problems.   I can purchase apps
ect with know problems.  but every few minutes it now asks me to login
with my old iTunes account.
iCloud, iTunes, and everything else has my current ID, my current Id
is in settings, I’ve erased and restored the phone, but every time
the same thing happens.
Anyone know what’s going on hear? I’ve never seen an iDevice do this
before, and I’ve had iPhones rite back to the 3GS days.
I don’t live near an apple store, so taking it in is not my best option.
Hope someone can shed some light on this for me, I really want this
phone working!
thanks.
Kari.

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tune in premium prices

[Larry McCreary]

I am considering obtain a subscription premium for nfl on tunein.  There was 
some discussion here a few weeks ago about pricing.  There are plans for 
approximately $8.00 and $10.00.  What would it cost to obtain the nil premium 
plan?
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Apple Watch Tutorial/podcast

[Kamal Haffar]

Hi all:

Can you recommend a good podcast or tutorial for a new Voiceover Apple watch 
user? 

Thank you :-)

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Re: Top tip - copy last spoken text to the clipboard

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi,
Haven't updated yet, on holiday, no Wi-Fi… but did I not read somewhere that 
there has been changes and enhancements to clipboard functionality? has anyone 
played with it?
All the best, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 16 Sep 2016, at 23:41, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I think it was in iOS 8, definitely not later, maybe already iOS 7.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 5:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Top tip - copy last spoken text to the clipboard
> 
> I'm not sure when it showed up, but it's not new in IOS 10.
> 
>> On 16/09/16 03:42, Robin Christopherson wrote:
>> Dear listers
>> 
>> You guys probably all knew this already but yesterday I stumbled upon 
>> a really useful gesture in iOS. No idea if it’s new in iOS10 or been 
>> around for a while.
>> 
>> Do a three finger quadruple tap and you will copy the last spoken text 
>> to the clipboard. You can check you are getting the gesture right by 
>> first doing a four finger double tap to turn help mode on in which the 
>> action of all subsequent gestures are spoken rather than actioned. 
>> When in help mode try the three finger quadruple tap. To get out of 
>> help mode just do the four finger double tap again.
>> 
>> Thanks, Robin
>> 
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Re: Please Confirm a VoiceOver Bug in Native iOS 10 Mail App Regarding Threaded View

[Stephanie Mitchell]

Of course I didn't think you were drunk!  knew it was your meds. You were 
totally fine just sounded a bit off... I will pray the pain subsides a bit. 
Maybe you should take the meds more often, even if you don't like it. I mean 
that amount of pain isn't healthy long term... And I didn't think you were 
complaining.  can write any time you like if you are having a hard time... 
that's what friends in Christ do... by the way, I'm beyond excited because 
tomorrow I'm attending a concert from the first time in 12 months! And some of 
my fav music too.  cant wait! 
Steph
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Re: Please Confirm a VoiceOver Bug in Native iOS 10 Mail App Regarding Threaded View

[Paul Hunt]

Hello mark. Yes, i confirmed this bug.

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 2:36 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> There have been so many posts sent lately that I have lost track so please
> indulge me in asking for confirmation of a very annoying bug in the native
> iOS 10 Mail app, regarding the threaded view.
> 
> Here are my major settings for Mail.  
> 
> Preview, None.
> Organize by Thread, On.
> Most Recent Message on Top, Off.
> Complete Thread, Off.
> 
> Here are the steps I take to read threads:
> 
> 1.
> Open the Mail app.
> 
> 2.
> Place focus on a collapsed thread.
> 
> 3.
> Select Expand Thread via the VoiceOver Rotor.  At this point, the thread
> expands downward.  
> 
> 4.
> Now, I single-finger swipe to the right in order to move to the first
> message listed below the subject line of the thread and, as is expected, the
> text of the message is read, out by VoiceOver.
> 
> The problem is that, regardless of the status of the, "Most Recent Message
> on Top", toggle, the first message just below the thread's subject line is
> always the most recent post to the thread.  As a consequence, if I want to
> read the original post to a thread, I have to swipe all the way down to the
> bottom of the list area and reverse swipe back up.  
> 
> Does this make sense and are any of you encountering this issue?  
> 
> Again, thank you for your indulgence on this.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

[Devin Prater]

Victoria is an older voice, even older than neccisary, because there is
Vicki, which sounds clearer and uses the same person's voice as Victoria.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Leo Bado  wrote:

> oh yeah Gera,
>
> Juan is awsome! now, this for spanish language.
>
>
> for english I use male Siri  voice and kind of like Tom.
>
>
> yeah guys, voices are subjective, also kind of like Fred to read using vdr.
>
>
>
> El 16/09/2016 a las 14:20, Gerardo Corripio escribió:
>
> For Spanish, I plan on switcing from Paulina to Juan; for English, maybb
> keep using Siri Male, but whq not try out Tom to see how is sounds? I'll
> finally be able to not only usb it in VoicbDreeam, but also with Voiceover!
> Amazing!
>
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S
>
> El 16/09/2016, a las 2:53 a.m., SoonerAnnie 
> escribió:
>
> Samantha. No matter what, I always go back to her. I'm so used to her now,
> I really don't like anything else as well. I do give them a try though.
> LOL.
>
> Ann
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:35 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>
> I use Alex now, as I have ever since he was available.
>
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Connie Mohney 
> wrote:
>
>> Samantha is all I’ve ever used for serie and voice over
>>
>> Connie
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Anthony Vece
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:28 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to
>> voice in IOS 10
>>
>>
>>
>> I still use Samantha and, Alex to read articles.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:24 PM, Casey  wrote:
>>
>> Hi now since IS 10 is out.
>> What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use with
>> your phone?
>> I was using Alex and am using him again now.
>> But just Wonder also if you find any of the newer voice faster and more
>> responsive.
>> So that is why all of the questions.
>>
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Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Devin Prater]

Gosh. I bet he has some contact in Apple or something. No one on the beta
list could figure it out, lol.

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On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ron Pelletier 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> That’s where I got it also.  Thanks to Jonathan
>
>
>
> Ron & Danvers
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Woody Anna Dresner
> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 12:32 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?
>
>
>
> Hi Devin,
>
>
>
> Thank Jonathan Mosen. I learned about it from his book.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>
>
>
> Thank you, Anna. I went through the beta program, and no one even knew
> about that trick, lol.
>
>
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Woody Anna Dresner 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Jennifer,
>
>
>
> I think the substitution of emojis only happens in Messages. After you
> type your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a rotor item
> called Emojis; turn the rotor to that. When you flick down, you'll be told
> when you're on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It will say whether
> there's one option or several. If there's one, double-tap to make the
> replacement. If there's more than one choice, flick left and right to move
> through them, and double-tap the one you want.
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Anna
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I read that imoje's can replace words? Is this only in iMessages? Or in
> any text field? Also, how do I find where to insert them in a block of text
> I've written?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> Jenifer Barr
>
> Jenifer571 on dice world
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Wow! Yes, please, we all need one!


Carol P - UK



On 17/09/2016 02:07, Kelly Pierce wrote:

Ben Lovejoy at 9to5Mac has been following this issue closely.  today
he reported that Apple bought a company in the past week that has
breakthrough technology.  devices can be charged up to 20 feet away
without placing the device on a charging pad.  If Apple can deploy
this technology to scale, it will be a game changer and Apple will
again set the standard that others must meet to be competitive.  Check
out Ben's reporting and analysis for more.

Kelly

On 9/16/16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Interesting yes. Of course Nikola Tesla was working on the wireless
transmission of power and light 120 years ago and predicted much about
wireless communication back then.
It would definitely be like Apple to come out with something like that
especiall for the 10-year anniversary iPhone, if they could get this to work
next year's iPhone sales would go absolutely through the roof.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ed Worrell
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

Hello, Here is what I have found on what Apple may be working on for a
future device. It is just speculation, but it is fun to watch the ideas.

Apple Developing Wireless-Charged iPhone for as Soon as 2017 - Bloomberg
Apple Inc. is working with partners in the U.S. and Asia to develop new
wireless charging technology that could be deployed on its mobile devices as
soon as next year, according to people familiar with the plans.
Apple is exploring cutting-edge technologies that would allow iPhones and
iPads to be powered from further away than the charging mats used with
current smartphones, the people said, asking not to be identified as the
details are private. The iPhone maker is looking to overcome technical
barriers including loss of power over distance with a decision on
implementing the technology still being assessed, they said.

With iPhones and iPads generating more than three quarters of Apple’s
revenue, new technologies can give its devices an edge and help the company
sell products at a
premium
in a slowing market. Samsung Electronics Co., Sony Corp. and Google Inc. are
among rivals that have released wirelessly-charged smartphones that still
require proximity to a charging plate.
Efficiency of power transfer decreases as the distance between transmitter
and receiver grows, which means batteries take longer to recharge.
Trudy Muller, a spokeswoman for Apple, declined to comment when contacted by
Bloomberg News.
Developing Technology
In 2010 Apple made a patent
application
outlining a concept of using an iMac personal computer as a hub for
wirelessly recharging at a distance of about 1 meter using a technique
called near-field magnetic resonance. Apple currently uses a similar
technique, called induction, to charge its Watch within millimeters of the
power source.
Another Apple patent
outlined a method for making aluminum phone casings that allow radio waves
to pass through, a technique that would minimize the problem of metal
interfering with transmitted signals.
Apple has previously played
down
its interest in any charging technology that still needs to be plugged into
a wall socket because such methods would add little convenience.
Semiconductor makers
Broadcom
Corp. and
Qualcomm
Inc. are among those who have developed or are developing technology and
standards for wireless charging.
Broadcom offers a chip that supports the three major
wireless-charging
technical standards while Qualcomm supports two of those technologies and
last year said it has developed a method to skirt the problem of metallic
interference
in charging by connecting the power antenna to the phone’s casing.

Sorry for the long post. I thought this was an interesting read. Here is the
direct link to the article on the web.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-29/apple-said-developing-wireless-charged-phone-for-as-soon-as-2017-ijz3i4si

Ed
On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:50 PM, Alan Lemly

STEPS FOR A FULL BACKUP OF DATA IN ITUNES, PLEASE!

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Hi all,


I know this has been covered but I'm still not quite clear on the 
process so would be really glad of a full explanation, if possible, 
because I am one of those who actually loaths Itunes with a passion ...



I want to do an encripted backup before upgrading and I'd like to do it 
in the next few days, so, if anyone could help, this would be most useful.



Specifically I do need to understand if I have to check things to ensure 
I get everything backed up.



Thanks.


Carol P


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Re: the rotor and email

[Davy Cuppens]

And what function does this execute?

From: Mary Otten 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 11:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: the rotor and email

Regarding the rotor, I just tried something and it worked every time. It 
involves the use of two hands, so you would have to have the phone lying flat 
on the table. You can take the thumb of each hand and slide each one a 
different way, the left thumb going left and the right thumb going right. That 
sounds a lot weirder and harder than it actually is. It doesn't require any 
particular dexterity with the fingers of one hand. You just have to move your 
thumbs at the same time in opposite directions, so your left thumb is moving 
from the middle to the left and you're right thumb is moving from the middle to 
the right.
Mary



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:


  For a friend If I turn off threading, does the mail work as before except it 
is not in threads? I ask this as my friend cannot make the rotor gesture 
because her hands cannot do it. Can I suggest a way to use the rotor doing the 
motion any other way? It is sad there is no other way to access the rotor but 
the knob turn. People with bad hands are left out. Some great things with the 
rotor.

  I worked with mail quite a bit yesterday, and I really like it. One thing 
that I found was that when you enter the message screen sometimes the rotor 
doesn't flip to messages so you have to check it. Other than that, I really 
like it as you can go through them all and then delete them. Well, a lot of 
ways to do this, but I do like the change. 

  I received my 7 256 megabytes today. I probably would have been alright with 
a 32 or 128, but I could get the 256 for the same as the 128. So, why not. 




  reggie & Lex
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Restoring iPhone 7 from iCloud backup

[Wayne Merritt]

All,
Last night I got my new iPhone 7! Yay! When setting up the phone I was asked 
what method I wanted to use to restore my information. I chose the most recent 
iCloud backup that I had made. When checking my phone an hour ago though, it 
looked like a brand new phone does. None of my apps and folders that I had on 
the 6S were showing on the new 7. This is the first time something like this 
has happened to me, each time before when I had restored from iCloud, all of my 
stuff came back. What do I need to do to get everything on the 7 like I had it 
on my 6S? Do I need to start over by erasing all data and setting up the 7 all 
over again? Please help!! All of my settings, app purchases, and app positions 
have been erased on the new 7. I really don't want to have to download each app 
all over again and arrange them, but I've got nothing else going on this 
weekend, grin.

Sincerely,
Wayne Merritt
Sent from my iPhone 7

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Re: No items found msg.

[Ramy Moustafa]

 Hello Siri secret OK are you wearing make phone restart but I don't have a 
Bluetooth keyboard connected to my phone so I don't know what is it this 
message.

Ramy moustafa saber
Musicc instructor at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 12:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Is your screen locked? Are you maybe using a bluetooth keyboard which gets 
> pressed?
> I would, first of all, turn the phone off, wait 30 seconds and then turn it 
> back on and see if this helps.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ramy Moustafa
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:13 AM
> To: V Iphone 
> Subject: No items found msg.
>  
> Hi all my friends:
> after installing the ios10, i always get a message: taying that no items 
> found, i didn't even touch the phone, so what shall i do?
> thanks. 
>  
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> Musicc instructor at:
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Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

I thought the wireless charging was via an induction plate or pad.
Charging is never that efficient, but the wireless technologies are less 
efficient still, and this despite all the blather about 
environment, ecology and so on.  Having said that, induction cooking plates 
might have something over conventional radiant heat 
rings.

But I'm blathering.  Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:03 AM
Subject: RE: Wireless Charging Comments?


Interesting yes. Of course Nikola Tesla was working on the wireless 
transmission of power and light 120 years ago and predicted much 
about wireless communication back then.
It would definitely be like Apple to come out with something like that 
especiall for the 10-year anniversary iPhone, if they could 
get this to work next year's iPhone sales would go absolutely through the roof.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wireless Charging Comments?

Hello, Here is what I have found on what Apple may be working on for a future 
device. It is just speculation, but it is fun to watch 
the ideas.

Apple Developing Wireless-Charged iPhone for as Soon as 2017 - Bloomberg
Apple Inc. is working with partners in the U.S. and Asia to develop new 
wireless charging technology that could be deployed on its 
mobile devices as soon as next year, according to people familiar with the 
plans.
Apple is exploring cutting-edge technologies that would allow iPhones and iPads 
to be powered from further away than the charging 
mats used with current smartphones, the people said, asking not to be 
identified as the details are private. The iPhone maker is 
looking to overcome technical barriers including loss of power over distance 
with a decision on implementing the technology still 
being assessed, they said.

With iPhones and iPads generating more than three quarters of Apple’s revenue, 
new technologies can give its devices an edge and 
help the company sell products at a 
premium
 in a 
slowing market. Samsung Electronics Co., Sony Corp. and Google Inc. are among 
rivals that have released wirelessly-charged 
smartphones that still require proximity to a charging plate.
Efficiency of power transfer decreases as the distance between transmitter and 
receiver grows, which means batteries take longer to 
recharge.
Trudy Muller, a spokeswoman for Apple, declined to comment when contacted by 
Bloomberg News.
Developing Technology
In 2010 Apple made a patent 
application
 
outlining a concept of using an iMac personal computer as a hub for wirelessly 
recharging at a distance of about 1 meter using a 
technique called near-field magnetic resonance. Apple currently uses a similar 
technique, called induction, to charge its Watch 
within millimeters of the power source.
Another Apple patent outlined 
a method for making aluminum phone casings that allow 
radio waves to pass through, a technique that would minimize the problem of 
metal interfering with transmitted signals.
Apple has previously played 
down
 
its interest in any charging technology that still needs to be plugged into a 
wall socket because such methods would add little 
convenience.
Semiconductor makers 
Broadcom
 Corp. and 
Qualcomm
 
Inc. are among those who have developed or are developing technology and 
standards for wireless charging.
Broadcom offers a chip that supports the three major 
wireless-charging
 technical standards while 
Qualcomm supports two of those technologies and last year said it has developed 
a method to skirt the problem of metallic 
interference
 
in charging by connecting the power antenna to the phone’s casing.

Sorry for the long post. I thought this was an interesting read. Here is the 
direct link to the article on the web.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-29/apple-said-developing-wireless-charged-phone-for-as-soon-as-2017-ijz3i4si

Ed
On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:50 PM, Alan Lemly 

Please Confirm a VoiceOver Bug in Native iOS 10 Mail App Regarding Threaded View

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

There have been so many posts sent lately that I have lost track so please
indulge me in asking for confirmation of a very annoying bug in the native
iOS 10 Mail app, regarding the threaded view.

Here are my major settings for Mail.  

Preview, None.
Organize by Thread, On.
Most Recent Message on Top, Off.
Complete Thread, Off.

Here are the steps I take to read threads:

1.
Open the Mail app.

2.
Place focus on a collapsed thread.

3.
Select Expand Thread via the VoiceOver Rotor.  At this point, the thread
expands downward.  

4.
Now, I single-finger swipe to the right in order to move to the first
message listed below the subject line of the thread and, as is expected, the
text of the message is read, out by VoiceOver.

The problem is that, regardless of the status of the, "Most Recent Message
on Top", toggle, the first message just below the thread's subject line is
always the most recent post to the thread.  As a consequence, if I want to
read the original post to a thread, I have to swipe all the way down to the
bottom of the list area and reverse swipe back up.  

Does this make sense and are any of you encountering this issue?  

Again, thank you for your indulgence on this.

Mark


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