I agree that there is something very interesting going on with
microtubules. I beleive that water has a role to play in this and have
an article exploring this possibility for FtsZ, the procaryotic homolgue
of tubulin, the building block of microtubules. In microtubules this
should provide
Discovery of Quantum Vibrations in 'Microtubules' Inside Brain Neurons
Supports Controversial Theory of Consciousness
Jan. 16, 2014 — A review and update of a controversial 20-year-old
theory of consciousness published in Physics of Life Reviews claims
that consciousness derives from deeper
My Spider Senses are starting to tingle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kek3GqbsTk
Harry
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Discovery of Quantum Vibrations in 'Microtubules' Inside Brain Neurons
Supports Controversial Theory of Consciousness
Jan. 16,
Interviews with Hameroff:
http://noetic.org/noetic/issue-thirteen-august/what-is-consciousness-hameroff/
http://www.skeptiko.com/stuart-hameroff-on-quantum-consciousness-and-singularity/
Excerpt from the first:
*Schlitz:* That brings up the criticism that the brain can’t be a quantum
processor
An interview with Hameroff:
Recent evidence in the last five or six years has come down pretty strongly
on our side. For example, it’s been discovered that photosynthesis—the
operation in all plants that give rise to our food, to everything we
eat—utilizes quantum coherence. . . .
If this
Regarding the state of our souls:
All I noze is that somehow we find ourselves living... and then we die.
While transitioning between these two quantum states of existence I
finally began to realize the fact that the universe, to me, is one big
gigantic question mark, one that I will never be
If it mans wisdom , your right (bleet,bleet )
If its Gods wisdom, your probably the goat
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 23:56:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
From: gsantost...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
How can anybody in the 21st century still mention the bible for any
Message -
From: Giovanni Santostasi
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
How can anybody in the 21st century still mention the bible for any guidance
on any topics goes beyond me.
Don't you realize it is the wisdom
-
*From:* Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Friday, November 02, 2012 12:56 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
How can anybody in the 21st century still mention the bible for any
guidance on any topics goes beyond me.
Don't you realize
soul.
I beleive the Bible is clear on this teaching.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
A chimera or chimaera is a single organism that is composed of two or more
: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
Dear Jojo,
If you know so well the Bible, please tell me which verse from the Apocalypse
can be interpreted as prediction of the TV and the Internet?
Please answer, do not explain it away. Thanks.
Peter
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Jojo Jaro jth
Message -
*From:* Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Friday, November 02, 2012 5:19 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
Dear Jojo,
If you know so well the Bible, please tell me which verse from the
Apocalypse can be interpreted as prediction of the TV
- From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
I agree that secularism is in crisis, but this doesn't mean we must
return to a theocratic rule which is the danger implied by movements
like
Which version of the bible is this?:
9. And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see
their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead
bodies to be put in graves.
The city in which this happens may simply be cosmopolitan so many of
the local
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
Harry, it seems that you as well as other people are always concerned with
imposing a theocratic rule. No one wants a theocratic rule, including me.
I don't believe any Christian person is attempting to do that, so your
One of the main reasons why I'm an atheist is because I have read the
bible. It turns out that atheists are much more knowledgeable in religion
than religious people. It tells a lot that you are resorting to name
calling. Many xians are not even nice people, that is even a stronger
motivation not
Apart from the most rabid fundamentalists among us, nearly everyone admits
that the Bible might contain errors -- a faulty creation story here, a
historical mistake there, a contradiction or two in some other place. But
is it possible that the problem is worse than that -- that the Bible
actually
What we know that the authors of the bible were liars, they even lied about
their own identity.
http://www.amazon.com/Forged-Writing-God-Why-Bibles-Authors/dp/0062012614
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Giovanni Santostasi
gsantost...@gmail.comwrote:
Apart from the most rabid fundamentalists
03, 2012 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
Harry, it seems that you as well as other people are always concerned
with
imposing a theocratic rule. No one wants a theocratic rule, including
me.
I don't believe any
- Original Message -
From: Harry Veeder
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
Which version of the bible is this?:
9. And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see
their dead bodies three days
are ignorant
of the subject.
- Original Message -
From: Giovanni Santostasi
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
What we know that the authors of the bible were liars, they even lied about
their own
: Patrick Ellul
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
If I studied close enough the inside of a computer that has MS Windows
installed on it, without ever switching it on, I can still see and understand
the expected behaviour
with them.
-Mark Iverson
From: John Berry [mailto:berry.joh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:13 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
Since there have been results of consciousness effecting quantum level
events multiple times, why should it be so
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
** **
Since there have been results of consciousness effecting quantum level
events multiple times, why should it be so absurd.
** **
Based on research and experimentation I am doing it is clear to me that
quantum waves aren't just probability
I don't think the experience of Dr. Eben Alexander has been mentioned on Vortex:
http://www.skeptiko.com/eben-alexander-the-medical-mystery-of-near-death-experience/
His is a fascinating story.
blueprint. Such efforts are always doom to fail, much like the fallacies of
Darwinian Evolution.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Ellul
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
If I studied close enough
: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
If I studied close enough the inside of a computer that has MS Windows
installed on it, without ever switching it on, I can still see and
understand the expected behaviour. The software program is persisted as ones
1:43 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
If I studied close enough the inside of a computer that has MS Windows
installed on it, without ever switching it on, I can still see and
understand the expected behaviour. The software program is persisted as
ones and zeros on a memory device
:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
If I studied close enough the inside of a computer that has MS Windows
installed on it, without ever switching it on, I can still see and
understand the expected behaviour. The software program is persisted as
ones
and zeros on a memory device
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:17:17 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
From: janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Some believe that the soul comes
into being when the human egg is fertilized; aka the moment of conception.
In this way of thinking, with DNA as the software of the soul
...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:43 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
If I studied close enough the inside of a computer that has MS Windows
installed on it, without ever switching it on, I can still see and
understand the expected behaviour
, but
in the end I personally had to trust in His love for me . This is the thing
that has given me a Peace that has surpast my understanding
Pete
--
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:17:17 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
From: janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
understanding
Pete
--
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:17:17 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
From: janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Some believe that the soul comes into being when the human egg is
fertilized; aka the moment of conception. In this way
. Such efforts are always doom to fail, much like the
fallacies of
Darwinian Evolution.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Ellul
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
If I studied close enough
: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
Some believe that the soul comes into being when the human egg is fertilized;
aka the moment of conception.
In this way of thinking, with DNA as the software of the soul, the human DNA
has the potential to form a complete person, but at the time of conception
and injustice that currently
plagues our society.+
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
I agree that secularism is in crisis, but this doesn't mean we
, you have to study the software manual
that comes with it. You need to study the Bible.
Jojo
- Original Message -
*From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Friday, November 02, 2012 4:17 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
Some believe
and his soul, you have to study the software manual
that comes with it. You need to study the Bible.
Jojo
- Original Message -
*From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Friday, November 02, 2012 4:17 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
Some
Horrible and absurd nonsense.
Giovanni
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.comwrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/28/soul-after-death-hameroff-penrose_n_2034711.html
How far fetched is this?
According to Dr. Hameroff, in a near-death experience, when
I think Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff have the best explanation of
consciousness to date. It's called Orchestrated Objective Reduction,
or Orch-OR. The two actually developed the idea separately, Sir
Penrose being a physicist and Hameroff being a physician who
specialized in anesthesia and
If Neurons can sense Neutrinos it makes sense to me we could synch up
Stewart
darkmattersalot.com
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
I think Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff have the best explanation of
consciousness to date. It's called Orchestrated
I love Roger Penrose great thinker. Hameroff is too out there. I think
Penrose has dissociated from Hameroff because he went too far.
Orch-OR is not the best theory of consciousness. It has been debunked in
many different ways.
Giovanni
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:37 AM, ChemE Stewart
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Giovanni Santostasi
gsantost...@gmail.com wrote:
Orch-OR is not the best theory of consciousness.
So, who wins that prize?
I like Penrose. IMO he is the most philosophically sophosticated
physicist in academia today. I wonder ...did Penrose ever say anthing
about CF?
Harry
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Giovanni Santostasi
gsantost...@gmail.com wrote:
I love Roger Penrose great thinker. Hameroff is too out
-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder [
I like Penrose. IMO he is the most philosophically sophosticated
physicist in academia today. I wonder ...did Penrose ever say anthing
about CF?
I don't know if he specifically addresses LENR in the modern context, but
even he was negative on CF
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Giovanni Santostasi
gsantost...@gmail.com wrote:
Orch-OR is not the best theory of consciousness.
So, who wins that prize?
Well, while we await Giovanni's response, for those Vorts
: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
I think Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff have the best explanation of
consciousness to date. It's called Orchestrated Objective Reduction,
or Orch-OR. The two
Since there have been results of consciousness effecting quantum level
events multiple times, why should it be so absurd.
Based on research and experimentation I am doing it is clear to me that
quantum waves aren't just probability waves but are real waves in an actual
gas/fluid/superfluid
- Original Message - From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
I think Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff have the best explanation of
consciousness to date. It's called Orchestrated Objective
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/28/soul-after-death-hameroff-penrose_n_2034711.html
How far fetched is this?
According to Dr. Hameroff, in a near-death experience, when the heart
stops beating, the blood stops flowing, and the microtubules lose their
quantum state, the quantum information
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