Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket 2.0, when?

2006-08-25 Thread Stefan Lindner
I think that an API change is neccessary and that ist is just the right point of time to do it. Most of the projects based on wicket are not very old, therefore good enogh in mind of the developers to perform an api change. Some of them (the new component constructor) can be handled by an

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket 2.0, when?

2006-08-25 Thread Frank Bille
On 8/25/06, Stefan Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BUT: where can I get wicket 2.0? The official link to SVN on thesourceforge page points to http://svn.sourceforge.net/wicket. And e.g.in trunk, the project.xml file still has 1.2-SNAPSHOT as the curretnversion.Oh, you're right but that

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket 2.0, when?

2006-08-25 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Wicket 2.0 is in trunk. Might very well be that the project files are not up-to-date though. Wicket 2.0 is easy to recognize as instead of calling add on parents, you now pass the parent in the constructor of components. Eelco On 8/24/06, Stefan Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that an

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket 2.0, when?

2006-08-25 Thread Korbinian Bachl
just curious: why dont you do it like the eclipse-project and have daily-snapshot jars ??? - and once a time a M-build ??? Regards -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Eelco Hillenius Gesendet: Freitag, 25. August 2006 08:28

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket 2.0, when?

2006-08-25 Thread Otan
Just my 2 centavos, I can't think of any reason for Wicket to undergo m-build style of process. About the daily snapshot builds, I prefer the checkout-then-build approach, but you need maven and svn client to do this. But of course, the Wicket team is the authority to give answer to your question.

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket 2.0, when?

2006-08-25 Thread Johan Compagner
then it has to be automated. Because if it is constant a manual thing then it cost us to much work.But we could throw out a snapshot of 2.0 at this time. So that people can download it easier.johan On 8/25/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just curious: why dont you do it like the

[Wicket-user] AutoCompleteTextField conflict

2006-08-25 Thread Konstantin
Started using Wicket and found a problem ;-) To reproduce a bug: 1. Make a simple page with a form containing AutoCompleteTextField and IndicatingAjaxSubmitButton. 2. In a page-class create a Form, add IndicatingAjaxSubmitButton and then AutoCompleteTextField. That's all, your

Re: [Wicket-user] J2EE declarative security and wicket...

2006-08-25 Thread erik_wamblee
Thanks. Just like everything else in wicket it's really simple. We could consider adding it as a default implementation. But then someone would have to make an example too... I can volunteer for that. I plan to use something like that so I could add an example with J2EE declarative security.

Re: [Wicket-user] AutoCompleteTextField conflict

2006-08-25 Thread Janne Hietamäki
Hi, IIRC, this has already been fixed in the svn. Janne On 25.8.2006, at 13.30, Konstantin wrote: Started using Wicket and found a problem ;-) To reproduce a bug: 1. Make a simple page with a form containing AutoCompleteTextField and IndicatingAjaxSubmitButton. 2. In a page-class

Re: [Wicket-user] AutoCompleteTextField conflict

2006-08-25 Thread Konstantin
Hmm ... I downloaded latest 1.2.1 from Sourceforge. I appreciate if you just test my sample against latest 1.2.1 in SVN. Janne Hietamäki wrote: Hi, IIRC, this has already been fixed in the svn. Janne On 25.8.2006, at 13.30, Konstantin wrote: -- View this message in

[Wicket-user] Portal framework for wicket?

2006-08-25 Thread Peter Neubauer
Hi, I would like to jumpstart a portal solution for some monitoring app. However, has anyone found a nice outer framework to take up all the gritty portal stuff, much like Joomla in PHP, so I could use wicket just for the real content I want to provide, or is that jsut lazyness from my side and I

Re: [Wicket-user] J2EE declarative security and wicket...

2006-08-25 Thread Gwyn Evans
Both? :-) You could try doing a Wiki page seeing how much ends up being code, vs code text? If code then possibly as a part of wicket-examples (although the I don't know if server-side requirements might rule that out) or a standalone one as a project below wicket-stuff? For that, personally

Re: [Wicket-user] AutoCompleteTextField conflict

2006-08-25 Thread Martijn Dashorst
you did check out from branches/WICKET_1_2, did you? Martijn On 8/25/06, Konstantin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm ... I downloaded latest 1.2.1 from Sourceforge. I appreciate if you just test my sample against latest 1.2.1 in SVN. Janne Hietamäki wrote: Hi, IIRC, this has already

Re: [Wicket-user] Portal framework for wicket?

2006-08-25 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Are you building portlets? or are you building a CMS like system? http://burgerweeshuis.sf.net is a CMS, but specific to pop venues, probably not helping you. Two students at Topicus are going to build an open source CMS using Wicket, this fall as their graduation project. This will be similar

Re: [Wicket-user] Portal framework for wicket?

2006-08-25 Thread Martijn Dashorst
BTW, if you are interested, we could use ideas on the basis for the CMS. Should we use drupal's database structure, joomla's, or build or own? What is the minimal functionality for such a CMS? What do you expect? Martijn On 8/25/06, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you building

[Wicket-user] Howard is bluffing here ...

2006-08-25 Thread Francis Amanfo
Hi all, I found this current post on Howard's blog. I quote it here: Wicket has a nice community and a few nice ideas, but it does not compare to what I have planned for Tapestry 5. I believe Java is going to thrive at the high end and performance is going to be one of the differentiators from

Re: [Wicket-user] Howard is bluffing here ...

2006-08-25 Thread Justin Lee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 I'd like to point out the Tapestry 5.0 will be something like the third major rewrite of some form or another in a row. Francis Amanfo wrote: Hi all, I found this current post on Howard's blog. I quote it here: Wicket has a nice

Re: [Wicket-user] AutoCompleteTextField conflict

2006-08-25 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Ah, then either you have to build from svn, or wait until we release 1.2.2, which will be around this weekend. Martijn On 8/25/06, Konstantin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. I use packaged distribution (1.2.1) from Sourceforge. I don't realy wanted to check out and build wicket from sources, so

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket 2.0, when?

2006-08-25 Thread Stefan Lindner
But we could throw out a snapshot of 2.0 at this time This would be a helpful Johan! I think this would be a good kick off for Wicket 2.0. Stefan -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:09:06 +0200 From: Johan Compagner [EMAIL

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket 2.0, when?

2006-08-25 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Then I'll try to build one this weekend. Just a snapshot, no magic/wonders :-) Martijn On 8/25/06, Stefan Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But we could throw out a snapshot of 2.0 at this time This would be a helpful Johan! I think this would be a good kick off for Wicket 2.0. Stefan

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket 2.0, when?

2006-08-25 Thread Ryan Sonnek
+1 for continuous integration publishing snapshot versions...On 8/25/06, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Then I'll try to build one this weekend. Just a snapshot, no magic/wonders :-) MartijnOn 8/25/06, Stefan Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But we could throw out a snapshot of 2.0 at

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket 2.0, when?

2006-08-25 Thread Martijn Dashorst
already happening... http://maven.sateh.com/wicket/wicket/ On 8/25/06, Ryan Sonnek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 for continuous integration publishing snapshot versions... On 8/25/06, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I'll try to build one this weekend. Just a snapshot, no

[Wicket-user] Cant download wicket-1.2.1.zip

2006-08-25 Thread Philip Wilkinson
Hi I cant download wicket-1.2.1.zip at work as it gets blocked by Mimesweeper with the following error message:- URL Classification .. Undetermined Web Policy . Scenarios/HTTP Access User Name .. experianuk\wilkinp Proxy

Re: [Wicket-user] Server Push (COMET / Reverse Ajax)

2006-08-25 Thread Lorin Metzger
Eelco Hillenius wrote: Hi, COMET is not implemented as a core feature at this time. Do you have a specific use case where you would like to use it for? That might be a good start to investigate the options. One use case would be, a application with a small group of users. The users

Re: [Wicket-user] Portal framework for wicket?

2006-08-25 Thread Hugh Willson
Hi guys! I've used quite a few different PHP based CMS', and really do find Joomla to be the best laid out and designed (Drupal and Typo3 are a close second and third). I've been toying around with the idea of designing my own open source CMS using Wicket, Spring and Hibernate, but really

Re: [Wicket-user] Portal framework for wicket?

2006-08-25 Thread Korbinian Bachl
well, you might want to take a look at alfresco, an OS java CMS wich already uses Hibernate Spring... so u perhaps see a start there http://www.alfresco.com/ Regards, Korbinian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Hugh

Re: [Wicket-user] Portal framework for wicket?

2006-08-25 Thread Hugh Willson
Yes, Alfresco is a nice looking product, but it suffers from the same problems that all other open source Java based CMS' do - minimal third party development. Joomla, Drupal, Typp3, etc ... have so much third party development support, it's incredible! Anytime I've used Joomla for example, and

Re: [Wicket-user] AutoCompleteTextField conflict

2006-08-25 Thread Igor Vaynberg
the latest in svn, like martijn said, lives in svnroot/branches/WICKET_1_2 -- not what you downloaded.we already hit this usecase and fixed it, like janne said. it would be nice if you could test it yourself, this is a community effort afterall. if you however dont want to test it yourself, then

Re: [Wicket-user] Howard is bluffing here ...

2006-08-25 Thread Eelco Hillenius
It's understandable that he gives a strong opinion to a direct attack on his framework. He's probably as ill informed about Wicket as we are on Tapestry 5 though. So what she should do is take a look at what he is doing and see whether we can learn something from it. Unlikely though as it'll still

Re: [Wicket-user] Server Push (COMET / Reverse Ajax)

2006-08-25 Thread Igor Vaynberg
i might be totally missing something - but dont you need a special servlet container that maintains open socket separate from threads by using nio? like jetty 6? and then once you have that you need to use that servlet container's special api to do this? with the current architecture if you have a

Re: [Wicket-user] Server Push (COMET / Reverse Ajax)

2006-08-25 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 8/25/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i might be totally missing something - but dont you need a special servlet container that maintains open socket separate from threads by using nio? like jetty 6? and then once you have that you need to use that servlet container's special api

Re: [Wicket-user] J2EE declarative security and wicket...

2006-08-25 Thread Eelco Hillenius
WIKI page would be very welcome as Gwyn said. A basic example might go in wicket-auth-roles-examples and this default implementation would go in wicket-auth-roles. It would be great to have a patch for that. If you have, please attach to an issue here

Re: [Wicket-user] Server Push (COMET / Reverse Ajax)

2006-08-25 Thread Janne Hietamäki
On 25.8.2006, at 19.43, Eelco Hillenius wrote: with the current architecture if you have a hundred clients doing comet you will have a hundred threads - not so good. Yeah. What do you think Lorin? Is there something we might have missed from e.g. DWR? An alternative for your use case

Re: [Wicket-user] AutoCompleteTextField conflict

2006-08-25 Thread Konstantin
igor.vaynberg wrote: the latest in svn, like martijn said, lives in svnroot/branches/WICKET_1_2 -- not what you downloaded. we already hit this usecase and fixed it, like janne said. it would be nice if you could test it yourself, this is a community effort afterall. if you however

[Wicket-user] AutoCompleteTextField giving js error

2006-08-25 Thread V. Jenks
I'm taking my first crack at using some of the built-in Ajax stuff in Wicket - pretty cool by the way! I'm using the AutoCompleteTextField to filter some data and it works except that I'm getting a javascript error. It doesn't seem to be inhibiting any of the functionality but it looks bad,

Re: [Wicket-user] AutoCompleteTextField giving js error

2006-08-25 Thread Janne Hietamäki
This is also fixed in the svn. Janne On 25.8.2006, at 19.59, V. Jenks wrote: I'm taking my first crack at using some of the built-in Ajax stuff in Wicket - pretty cool by the way! I'm using the AutoCompleteTextField to filter some data and it works except that I'm getting a

Re: [Wicket-user] AutoCompleteTextField conflict

2006-08-25 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Ok. I'm new to java development, so for now I'm not very familiar with building libraries from sources :-). Well ... going to try. Sorry to bother you. Just tried to inform you about bug. You weren't bothering us at all. Thanks for reporting. The only way to make this framework great is to

Re: [Wicket-user] AutoCompleteTextField giving js error

2006-08-25 Thread V. Jenks
Excellent, thank you - I'll be sure to test 1.2.2 as soon as it is released. Janne Hietamäki wrote: This is also fixed in the svn. Janne On 25.8.2006, at 19.59, V. Jenks wrote: I'm taking my first crack at using some of the built-in Ajax stuff in Wicket - pretty cool by

Re: [Wicket-user] Server Push (COMET / Reverse Ajax)

2006-08-25 Thread Lorin Metzger
Eelco Hillenius wrote: On 8/25/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i might be totally missing something - but dont you need a special servlet container that maintains open socket separate from threads by using nio? like jetty 6? and then once you have that you need to use

Re: [Wicket-user] AutoCompleteTextField conflict

2006-08-25 Thread Igor Vaynberg
um...and there are recent snapshots available at http://maven.sateh.com/wicket/wicket/-IgorOn 8/25/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there isnt that much to do to get it builtinstall an svn clientinstall apache maven 2cd workspacesvn co

Re: [Wicket-user] Howard is bluffing here ...

2006-08-25 Thread Igor Vaynberg
seems to me like howard was the one who started the flamewar by talking crap about wicket in his blog comment :)but honestly, who cares? different people like different things, lets just leave it at that.i really liked tapestry and used it professionally when it was in the 3.x, beginnings of 4.x

Re: [Wicket-user] Server Push (COMET / Reverse Ajax)

2006-08-25 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I like the idea of the AjaxPushBehavior mentioned in the issue tracker posting. At one point I tried extending AbstractDefaultAjaxBehavior, and adding an addOnLoadModifier() which asynchrously called back on page load and then I blocked that thread, with the intention of waking up that

Re: [Wicket-user] Howard is bluffing here ...

2006-08-25 Thread Scott T weaver
Yeah, well at least he isnt trolling your user list ;-) We used to have some douche bag from some other OS portal project (forget the name) troll the Jetspeed user-list constantly. This was back, oh, about 3-4 years ago. This person felt it was his duty to respond to every user question

[Wicket-user] Versioning a PropertyModel backed by another Model

2006-08-25 Thread landtuna
I have a POJO that is the object for my WebPage's Model (let's call it SystemState). Some components need to interact with this object in a non-trivial way in their onClick handlers. Other components use PropertyModel models to get at a specific part of the SystemState. My whole application

Re: [Wicket-user] Server Push (COMET / Reverse Ajax)

2006-08-25 Thread Lorin Metzger
Eelco Hillenius wrote: The problem that I had was that it seemed like all other requests for that session were also blocked even ones that had nothing to do with that behavior. You would have to make sure the request for a push behavior is handled by it's own

Re: [Wicket-user] Howard is bluffing here ...

2006-08-25 Thread Igor Vaynberg
why didnt you just ban him off the list? seems like a rational thing to do :)-IgorOn 8/25/06, Scott T weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, well at least he isn't trolling your user list ;-) We used to have some douche bag from some other OS portal project (forget the name) troll

Re: [Wicket-user] Howard is bluffing here ...

2006-08-25 Thread Scott T weaver
Good question, I wasnt a list moderator at the time. However, he did a pretty good job of making an ass of himself so we just let him continue ;-) -scott From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Igor Vaynberg Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:32 PM To:

Re: [Wicket-user] Howard is bluffing here ...

2006-08-25 Thread Igor Vaynberg
yeah, but that is only fun for so long :)-IgorOn 8/25/06, Scott T weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question, I wasn't a list moderator at the time. However, he did a pretty good job of making an ass of himself so we just let him continue ;-) -scott From:

Re: [Wicket-user] Howard is bluffing here ...

2006-08-25 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I remember a similar issue on the Velocity list a couple of years ago where the author of Freemarker came around on every opportunity he could find to bitch about Velocity. Pretty annoying. Eelco Yeah, well at least he isn't trolling your user list ;-) We used to have some douche bag from

Re: [Wicket-user] Howard is bluffing here ...

2006-08-25 Thread Martijn Dashorst
we're not tired of you yet :D On 8/25/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, but that is only fun for so long :) -Igor On 8/25/06, Scott T weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question, I wasn't a list moderator at the time. However, he did a pretty good job of

Re: [Wicket-user] Applying Style Sheets to Wicket Portlet Components?

2006-08-25 Thread Janne Hietamäki
On 25.8.2006, at 8.17, David Russell wrote: Hi, I am currently trying to build some Wicket based Portlets. The sample portlet provided works great. Now I'm trying to convert the sample TabbedPanel application found in wicket.example.compref into a PortletApplication. So far the tabbed

Re: [Wicket-user] Howard is bluffing here ...

2006-08-25 Thread Scott T weaver
OH SCHNAP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wicket-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martijn Dashorst Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:59 PM To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] Howard is bluffing here ... we're not tired of you

Re: [Wicket-user] Applying Style Sheets to Wicket Portlet Components?

2006-08-25 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 8/25/06, Janne Hietamäki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to do a automated way to do this, so components having header contributions really work automagically, but that is a work in progress and I'm going to do it next week. This means that it won't be part of Wicket 1.2.2 Martijn --

Re: [Wicket-user] Howard is bluffing here ...

2006-08-25 Thread Igor Vaynberg
thats ok, im used to getting abuse from my fellow team mates :) it is the glue that binds us together-IgorOn 8/25/06, Scott T weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:OH SCHNAP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wicket-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martijn Dashorst

[Wicket-user] Session.get() behaviour

2006-08-25 Thread Jaime De La Jara
Hi, I was wondering why Session.get() throws a WicketRuntimeException if the session does not exists, in my app I define an AuthorizationStrategy and I'm also using some spring interceptors where I get a user object that is saved in the session but I had to include a try/catch block in each case

Re: [Wicket-user] Howard is bluffing here ...

2006-08-25 Thread Nathan Hamblen
It's really annoying when forums or mailing lists assault weblog comments in a coordinated attack: don't do it! I mean, HLS is a you-know-what, and that's been obvious for some time, but we don't want the outside world to start looking at us like Mac users or anything. (I say that as a Mac user

Re: [Wicket-user] Howard is bluffing here ...

2006-08-25 Thread Igor Vaynberg
and if you are going to put down someones work at least leave your name!-IgorOn 8/25/06, Nathan Hamblen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:It's really annoying when forums or mailing lists assault weblog comments in a coordinated attack: don't do it! I mean, HLS is ayou-know-what, and that's been obvious

Re: [Wicket-user] Howard is bluffing here ...

2006-08-25 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Yeah, you're right. We shouldn't have discussions like this on the lists. The kind of discussion that is appropriate here though is if people find features/ tricks/ whatever that might make Wicket better. Eelco On 8/25/06, Nathan Hamblen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's really annoying when

Re: [Wicket-user] Session.get() behaviour

2006-08-25 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I thought about that myself too. I'd be fine letting RequestCycle.get(), Session.get() and Application.get() return null if the thread local is not set. What do others think of this? Eelco On 8/25/06, Jaime De La Jara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was wondering why Session.get() throws a

Re: [Wicket-user] Session.get() behaviour

2006-08-25 Thread Igor Vaynberg
i think thats better then an npe, didnt even know we were doing that. so either this or add a session.exists() so you can test for it.-IgorOn 8/25/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought about that myself too. I'd be fine lettingRequestCycle.get(), Session.get() and

Re: [Wicket-user] Component created 18 times in IE versus twice in Firefox

2006-08-25 Thread Pierre-Yves Saumont
The origin of the problem was that I was calling super() in the constructor and it happens that this made the pages bookmarkable. By removing super(), it is now nearly working. Nearly only since with IE6, the page get called twice, but I can afford that ! (I hope this problem, as well as many

Re: [Wicket-user] Component created 18 times in IE versus twice in Firefox

2006-08-25 Thread Johan Compagner
a very strange story if you ask me.super() is always called in the constructor of a java object. if you don't specify another super(xxx) or this(xxx) call.And it really shouldn't matter what browser you are in in. because it shoudl be the same requests. So it looks like IE does an extra request?

Re: [Wicket-user] Session.get() behaviour

2006-08-25 Thread Johan Compagner
we can change it, but i think we can only do that in 2.0 (maybe 1.3)because i can think of pieces of code that depend on it and don't test for null anymore because that can't happen...(i know i have such pieces of code..) johanOn 8/25/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought about

Re: [Wicket-user] Session.get() behaviour

2006-08-25 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Agreed. Eelco On 8/25/06, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we can change it, but i think we can only do that in 2.0 (maybe 1.3) because i can think of pieces of code that depend on it and don't test for null anymore because that can't happen... (i know i have such pieces of code..)

Re: [Wicket-user] Component created 18 times in IE versus twice in Firefox

2006-08-25 Thread Pierre-Yves Saumont
I tried to reproduce the problem but I could not succeed (many things have changed in the application). However, I could experienced the erratic behaviour of IE6. The page has a constructor with an int argument, and I added a counter to see how many times the constructor is called : static

[Wicket-user] Re : Session.get() behaviour

2006-08-25 Thread Jaime De La Jara
I think Igor proposal, session.exists(), is correct and it could be added without any impact.Jaime.i think thats better then an npe, didnt even know we were doing that. so either this or add a session.exists() so you can test for it. -IgorOn 8/25/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: [Wicket-user] AutoCompleteTextField conflict

2006-08-25 Thread Konstantin
Built all sources. It's still not working. Bug-report: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1547028group_id=119783atid=684975 igor.vaynberg wrote: um...and there are recent snapshots available at http://maven.sateh.com/wicket/wicket/ -Igor On 8/25/06, Igor