> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:43 AM Joseph Seddon
> > Asking as a volunteer with a broad interest in affiliate matters rather
> > than as a staff member:
> > What steps is the Brazilian community taking to ensure there isn't a
Asking as a volunteer with a broad interest in affiliate matters rather
than as a staff member:
What steps is the Brazilian community taking to ensure there isn't a repeat
of past breakdowns in community cooperation?
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:50 AM Paulo Santos Perneta <
You are and will have been one of the single smartest minds we've ever had
at the Wikimedia Foundation. The Wikimedia Foundation, both as a whole and
the individuals who make it up, will be lesser without your presence and
your insight and it will be noticeable and felt throughout for many
> > Wikidata items, and almost none of them have talk pages, but
> > *all
> > of them* can.
> >  I remember when Werdna wrote the first talk page archiving bot in
> > I thought it was cool that someone did that, but looking back on it
> Speaking as a (very) longtime member of this mailing list, and one who is
> carefully observing it for a few years now as a volunteer list
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:56 AM Joseph Seddon
> > I, like many others, wish to see
Lethargy, indecision, internal strife, and an abiding commitment to
self-enrichment and constant bureaucratic growth? Isn't that what every
maturing community with more than a handful of participants grows up to be?
The strategy process is certainly not except from these flaws. Why would it
Philippe you are absolutely correct. Whilst I never commented on the
importance of any individual on this list nor the questioned the record of
anyone I admit that my tone was not what this list deserves. I also concur
there are merits to Fae's point.
However the intention behind my point is one
Because the Wikimedia Foundation doesn't make long term strategic decisions
based off of a 4 person discussion on a mailing list.
I really don't know why people keep being surprised by this.
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 6:11 PM Fæ wrote:
> I saw a recent size estimate of Wikimedia Commons
What are the examples of successful citizen news websites?
What could we learn from them?
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:15 PM Ziko van Dijk wrote:
> One of the central problems of Wikinews is that the content is not
> suitable for collaboration.
> Content suitable for collaboration
** correction - New readers (audiences and global partnerships) are working
in North Africa, Middle East, South America and India at the moment.
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 12:15 PM Joseph Seddon
> You keep mentioning this Anglo-Centric / Wikipedia centric focus of the
You keep mentioning this Anglo-Centric / Wikipedia centric focus of the
WMDE receives substantial monetary support from WMF for Wikidata. Only two
years ago dedicated grant funded work was made specific for Wikidata on
Commons for both WMF and WMDE. New Editors are working with the Korea and
> We know our statistics and English Wikipedia is not 50% of our traffic. It
> is where over 50% of our resources are spend.
Based on what?
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
From what I know:
* The global brand won't stop Wikidata being Wikidata.
* Wikimedia Russia won't necessarily become Wikipedia Russia
On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 4:56 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
> Think of Wikipedia Russia convincing Russian government that
I have a question. Within the movement, what are the best online showcases
of our content, movement and volunteers?
Context: We've been featuring the blog post about the Wiki Loves Monuments
winners in thank you email and banners to our readers and donors.
We want to showcase our
A it's always nice to quote someone other than Mike Godwin and it seems
Betteridge's law of headlines is alive and well. 
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 10:26 PM Yaroslav Blanter wrote:
> Hi Frederick.
> sure, I know. I am
Just wanted to provide a couple of quick fundraising updates:
**End of year downtime and New Year**
From today, we are bringing banners down across the projects for the next
week as we did last year.
As I mentioned in my December 10th update, you may have noticed that we
The fundraising team genuinely hears and appreciates all the feedback we've
received about this mobile banner. For the past week and a half - for the
majority of our mobile campaign - we have been extensively working and
acting on that feedback to reduce the length of this banner,
As I mentioned in my original reply to Molly, Desktop page views have been
in decline for the past 2-3 years from 4.36 billion (Oct 2016) to 3.64
billion (Oct 2018). Likewise, the relative effectiveness as of mobile as a
fundraising platform has historically been substantially lower
, 2018 at 1:31 AM Joseph Seddon wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
> I wanted to send a quick reminder that on Tuesday, 27th November, at 16:00
> UTC, we will launch our mobile and banner campaigns. We expect to run the
> fundraising campaign on English Wikipedia in 6 countries: USA, Canada
Thank you for your feedback, it is really appreciated. There are a fair few
points you’ve raised so I will do my best cover them all. For some
background, mobile fundraising is vitally important. Desktop page views
have been in decline for the past 2-3 years from 4.36 billion (Oct
Minor correction! The date should have read: Tuesday 27th November :)
On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:36 AM Joseph Seddon
> Hey all!
> I wanted to send a quick reminder that our English language fundraiser is
> officially launching tomorrow afternoon (
I wanted to send a quick reminder that on Tuesday, 27th November, at 16:00
UTC, we will launch our mobile and banner campaigns. We expect to run the
fundraising campaign on English Wikipedia in 6 countries: USA, Canada, UK,
Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand. You may notice some
"That hasn't been the case in the past when campaign goals are met."
The fundraising team has actively sought to reduce the impact that raising
donations has on readers. We covered this in a blog last year about the
I appreciate and understand your feedback about this subject line.
For some time we have been trying to find an alternative subject line to
-/This is a little awkward/-. That line works and works very well but we
have found it very difficult to effectively translate and adapt into
The Wikimedia Foundation does not hold cryptocurrency in Bitcoin. Whilst we
do accept bitcoin donations, this is currently done indirectly via BitPay
which converts from Bitcoin/Bitcash to Dollars prior to receipt.
This is documented on our Ways to Give page:
The end of the year is extremely productive, rewarding and very busy for
the Wikimedia Fundraising team with fundraising occurring in 14 countries
and 4 languages. Just a quick update on our fundraising activities.
We were originally scheduled to run a
7 countries = the 6 mentioned + Brazil :D
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 11:24 AM Joseph Seddon wrote:
> Hey all,
> Coffee is always controversial when it comes to fundraising. I can assure
> you that my team constantly works to try to ensure that these lines are
Coffee is always controversial when it comes to fundraising. I can assure
you that my team constantly works to try to ensure that these lines are
appropriate. Our biggest challenge has always been that this line has long
been extremely effective.
Looking back through our banners, it
I'd refer to my previous email relating to the three high GDP Asian
Definitely has potential but no silver bullet.
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 9:15 PM Amir Sarabadani wrote:
> It might sound naive but Singapore also has lots of potential. Please
> correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't have specific numbers to hand but its safe to assume the majority
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
> and cannot be defined like a "poor" country. I Think that the same is valid
> also for East Asia.
> No it's not simple to compare but the amount donated in Asia is really
> Kind regards
> On Mon, 1 Oct 2018, 15:21 Joseph Seddon, wrote:
Correction: Our readership in Macao, QATAR and Singapore; is a fraction of
that of the United States. (specifically 1.4% of the USA: Percentage
remails effectively unchanged).
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:17 PM Joseph Seddon wrote:
> Hey Illario.
> It is not as simple
It is not as simple to simply that the contribution from Asia should be 10
times bigger. It is not just about GDP.
Our readership from the three countries in the top 10: Macao, Oman and
Singapore; is a fraction of that of the United States. (specifically 1.4%
of the USA).
The potential for growth in fundraising in the various geographic locations
is limited by a huge number of factors limited but not including:
Population size, Per capita GDP/Purchasing power parity, Disposable income,
Internet penetration rates, Wikimedia project penetration rates,
I don't know of one, but documenting that is outside of the Fundraising
teams responsibilities and outside the focus of this report. I've started a
new thread for any further queries relating to this.
On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 9:19 PM Gerard Meijssen
Is Wikimania still on its programme of "1 EU/US Wikimania" followed by an
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 11:44 PM Ellie Young wrote:
> The Wikimania Steering Committee and Wikimedia Foundation are seeking
> expressions of interest from interested parties for
Your suggestion is noted but there are lot's of things that we want to do
with email but only a finite amount of resources in this area with which to
achieve it so it'll be something for to thinking about in the future.
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:11 PM James
"I am unaware of any laws which would prohibit WMF from publishing the
entirety of executives' compensation
details including their employment contracts, severance agreements,
and the circumstances
in which their departures happen."
Pine, I often appreciate your view and input on a range of
Apologies for the delay on this.
To the best of our knowledge, this ad isn't being run by the Wikimedia
Foundation nor any vendor of the Wikimedia Foundation.
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 7:12 AM, Anthony Cole wrote:
> That Google ad (describing
These emails came in on a weekend and today is a WMF holiday so I suspect
it'll be another 24 hours or so before a response will get to you :)
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 1:15 AM, Philippe Beaudette
> I suspect that the ad in question is
That's a completely different and unrelated issue to the thread YOU stated.
Whilst I'm impressed at your willingness to hijack your own thread to refer
to a completely unrelated topic after only one response, it is unsurprising
and I'm personally bored of it.
Please stick to the topic at hand or
I don't think it's particularly user/design friendly
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018, 16:22 James Salsman, wrote:
> I wanted to share this because it's pertinent to issues with large
> companies using our information without complying with the license
The question is, does it need a successor?
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Pine W wrote:
> For some time there have been periodic mentions of the idea of moving
> Wikimedia-l to Discourse. 
> I am considering establishing a Discourse installation myself and
This conversation started in the middle of the Christmas break following
which I suspect many staff took extended holidays, most departments are in
the middle annual planning and this week WMF are gathering for their annual
all hands meetings. So lets firtst consider the fact that senior legal
For those heavy users of the English Wikipedia, you'll have noticed its
been quiet on the banner front over the last week or so. This was to give
the team a much needed and appreciated break over the Christmas period.
We'll be doing a final push over the next 24 hours and we will be
==TODAY’S ASK ==
Today we are going to be testing a banner with a community quote included
alongside the main appeal:
This quote originated from a fundraising interview of Rosie
==REALLY IMPORTANT ASK==
Before updating you on our first week. I have and ask
We need your help. We've had some really close results with some of our
best messages in banners recently.
Rather than the fundraising team making the decision what to do, we would
like the community to help us
Hey all! Just a very brief update!
***We are live!***
Banners went up at 1600UTC. It's been 7ish hours and so far things are
ticking over nicely!
Lisa Gruwell and Megan Hernandez have written a blog post announcing the
launch of the campaign and why every donation to Wikipedia is
I wanted to send a quick reminder that our English language fundraiser is
officially launching tomorrow afternoon (Tuesday 28th November, at 16.00
UTC) with some final systems tests running between now and then.
---Banners and Ideas---
You can see the all of our current most effective
How is this relevant to wikimedia-l?
On 21 Nov 2017 09:28, "James Salsman" wrote:
> I offer $50 USD first prize and $25 for the runner-up for the best
> twelve paragraph essay on the topic of whether college students are
> likely to pay more in income taxes over
Just a quick update and heads up on our upcoming fundraising activities.
This quarter marks an exciting time for the Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising team as we run our English fundraiser, the largest campaign of
the year. As with previous years, that means running banners on English
The conference was born from the old affiliate model but that is not
representative of where we are now and for all its flaws and advantages,
the affiliate model has become very different.
Affiliates in some cases really do represent, projects, languages and
topics to varying degrees.
I must echo Lodewijk's words.
Washing dirty linen in public is beneficial to no one and damages everyone
involved including those making the accusations. There will be and are
lessons to be learned but right now there is a huge chilling effect from
the presence of lawyers on many sides and there
I believe that the 1.2million reflected Wikimedia France expenditure for
the previous financial year. I suspect the staff numbers are simply out of
On 14 Oct 2017 12:23, "rupert THURNER" wrote:
> the linkedin page of emeric says that WMFR has 1.2 Mio Eur
Based on your definition of community does that mean that mediawiki
developers are not part of the Wikimedia community?
Are people who volunteer in the real world or teachers who incorporate
Wikipedia into their classes not part of the Wikimedia community?
Members of staff of GLAM institutions
e Russia in Moscow, Oct.14-15?
> At Montreal meeting with WMF staff (James Baldwin, Jaime Villagomez,
> Winifred Olliff, Stephen LaPorte & Charles M. Roslof), it was said Mr.
> Joseph Seddon would be the person to ask for help, but I got no reply to my
> Sept.19 email.
say but I am constantly logged in and do see fundraising
> banners every year.
> Each time when it was announced fundraising banners would come, I have seen
> them logged in, in multiple countries.
> Op dinsdag 5 september 2017 heeft Joseph Seddon <jsed...
logged in for a while.
> > Best,
> > Lodewijk
> > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 2:16 PM, David Emrany <david.emr...@gmail.com>
> >> a) This is incorrect
> >> b) how many years would "for several years" enc
wrong start reaching levels of sigma that not even I would attempt to claim
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Strainu <strain...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Changing subject, the other thread is about something totally different.
> 2017-09-05 14:38 GMT+03:00 Jose
WMF hasn't shown fundraising banners to logged in users for several years.
On 5 Sep 2017 08:33, "Lodewijk" wrote:
> Hey Ori,
> I like the creative thinking :) For the fundraising that could indeed work
> well (although I have no numbers on what
whether this is the
> sort of behaviour that she expects you to exhibit in a public forum.
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Joseph Seddon <jsed...@wikimedia.org>
> > Real identity does not equal real-life identity. You can mask your
Real identity does not equal real-life identity. You can mask your
pseudonymous identity and pose as a third party similarly pseudonymous
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines
Rogol you yet again misrepresent what has been stated.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Rogol Domedonfors
> One proposal involves posters being asked to verify their real-life
> identity to the list moderators. Perhaps the moderators will supplement
Apologies for the short notice.
I wanted to give you a heads up on a banner test that will soon be going
We've been working on a new style of banner that is specifically designed
to have the same native look and feel as the rest of the site and
interface. It's intended to
Apologies for the delay.
This is my second attempt at replying because my first response was just
getting bogged down in detail. So I'm going to jump into the crux of the
Given the resources that goes into Wikimania I do personally think that we
have an obligation to try
Rogol I don't understanding how you have interpreted this as a choice
between community and stability.
Could you explain?
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Rogol Domedonfors
> Thanks anyway. Perhaps one of the members of the Board will comment, in
cise at the time i checked). I found the number of
> views a bit contrary to the number of potential visualizations of
> English WP sites.
> all the best,
> On 18.08.2017 19:41, Joseph Seddon wrote:
> > Hey Lodewijk,
> > Thanks fo
Has there been a recent substantial discussion by the community surrounding
promotional/biased editting paid or otherwise, which had an outcome
resulting in a specific request for assistance or increased action by the
If there hasn't, I do not see grounds for you to be expecting an
REMINDER: Deadline for submitting presentations, panels,
roundtables and workshops to Wikimania is *April 10*.
You have TWO days remaining.
The deadline for posters and birds-of-a-feather sessions remains *May 15*.
Please see below for the call for submissions for Wikimania, and submit
And define "associated with".
George W. Bush, the 43rd U.S. President is 8th cousin to Bill Gates for
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
> Could anyone name major donors or consultants to the Wikimedia Foundation
> who are
This list is *a* community but it certainly does not constitute The
Community™ nor are we the community affected by this code of conduct.
I suggest raising this in venues appropriate to the particular community in
question, in this case the technical community. Before bringing this topic
You can find out more about the Endowment here:
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 7:54 PM, James Salsman wrote:
> The statements Yair quoted are appropriate unless you believe
> "empower" in the Foundation's Mission
There goes my hopes of my pension.
On 28 Feb 2017 05:57, "Michael Snow" wrote:
> On 2/27/2017 9:24 PM, James Salsman wrote:
>> ... provide a little more context for this thread
>> Beginning in 2036, Wikipedia editors will obtain the right to demand
I'm really sorry James... I suspect it may be the fog of my mind brought on
by nighttime, but would it at all be possible for you to provide a little
more context for this thread. :)
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:11 AM, James Salsman wrote:
> This came up the other day
I would like to also point out a central notice banner was displayed on
Mediawiki.org to logged in users.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 2:28 AM, Gergő Tisza wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Adrian Raddatz
> > A lack of other
When you say "designed for 2016 Wikimania" what do you mean?
Going through both of those for me seem to send me to a form referencing
Do you have a screenshot of what you are seeing?
On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Fæ wrote:
> The link given in the email
As someone who supports community central notice campaigns, I must point
out that this list is not the appropriate venue for any discussion that
aims to arrive at any decision relating to such a banner campaign and any
thread here would in no way directly result in such action. There are
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> No they are not backed up outside the USA. I am not so sure there are off
> line backups/
Of any use?
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Rogol Domedonfors
> Dear Wes
> Thank you for yet another prompt response. It seems almost churlish to say
> that unfortunately that is
The Social Media team have been providing fantastic support of the English
online fundraiser and we wanted to provide a quick update dedicated to that
work. There were some cool images to go with but unfortunately our
wikimedia-l mailman is dull and boring so here is a summary of their
It's mostly the fact that it's a low priority dump, isn't maintained
actively, some of the queries used to produce it are old and probably need
updating and some of them are definitely broken (the refund sheet certainly
is). It includes some major gifts donations (which we don't include in our
ere going to be any published analysis of the WMF fundraising
> questions? As the questions are targeted at members of this list, it
> would be nice to post a link.
> I'm glad you have had lots of feedback from the exercise.
> On 2 Decembe
As the year end approaches, here's a few important updates about the
Change in management: The Wikipedia Store project has moved under Michael
Beattie  and his team of amazingly experienced donor support agents. Sandra
Hust  will be the primary contact for internal orders,
> or will you go beyond the target as you did in the last two years?
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Joseph Seddon <jsed...@wikimedia.org>
> > Hell
So originally we were going to send an update after the first two weeks but
with so much going on and following feedback, I'll cover as much as I can
in as brief a form as possible and more regularly than planned:
Banners limited: We have already begun limiting the number of
We got some great responses from last friday's question and definitely some
that we are going to test in our banner copy. So I will keep this format
going for as long as people feel engaged.
*Today's short answer question:*
*Why is it important that everyone in the world have access to
We are looking for ideas to build on the success of the fact matters series
of banners based on the importance of wikipedia in the media world we live
Go to this form: https://goo.gl/forms/eOHRvlSeZVPwI3KJ3
Answer the question!
There will be more.
More than it represents a feasible concept that can be significantly
improved upon. Reducing it's footprint, improving the look and feel so that
it reduces its impact on the page.
With regards to user appeals with photos:
1) They are notoriously difficult to be successful. We spent a whole year
I suggest is fundamentally different from the expert
> (Jelly, who is indeed extraordinarily good at what he does, even if that
> one campaign did not turn out to everybody's liking), and is a
> fundamentally different kind of engagement, from what you mention at the
> end of your messag
th the flow.
> > In the future I would suggest that this kind of change should be
> > communicated ahead of time, on this mailing list and elsewhere. (Unless I
> > missed it, which would be my fault.
> > Thanks,
> > Pine
ated ahead of time, on this mailing list and elsewhere. (Unless I
> missed it, which would be my fault.
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Joseph Seddon <jsed...@wikimedia.org>
> > Hey Geni,
> > So this i
t 5:25 PM, Joseph Seddon <jsed...@wikimedia.org>
> > Finally we didn't get any interest in our fundraising feedback and design
> > sessions last week and the week before so they were put on hold, however
> > there are individuals who a
So this is a style of banner that we have used on mobile over the last
year. We have previously had good feedback about the mobile version with
people feeling it was less obtrusive to the reader experience. This banner
that you saw was one of our first attempts at seeing whether
to me and I would be happy to arrange a time
On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 12:57 AM, Joseph Seddon <jsed...@wikimedia.org>
> We are coming up to that time of year again with the launch of our English
> fundraiser. Our E-mail camp
Just a reminder that we are running community sessions relating to our
online fundraising efforts over the next week. They will focus on new
banner and email designs and new ideas for appeals.
It's vital to get community input for the fundraiser since it ultimately
represents our whole movement.
On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 12:59 AM, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote:
> Joseph Seddon wrote:
> >We are coming up to that time of year again with the launch of our English
> >fundraiser. Our E-mail campaign is already und
accelerates software development for both Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata if
these resources should become available. We would like to invite you to
participate in a conversation about the plan  and look forward to your
comments and thoughts.
Joseph Seddon & Alex Sti
Apologies for the delay in responding,I have been meaning to respond to
Lucas: So one of the biggest changes in Latin American was that the
fundraising tech team integrated a new payment processor to accept both
local currency and payment methods in a number of Latin America
There are several central notice administrators but I'll get to your
request asap :)
On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Florence Devouard
> Hello everyone
> I am looking for the admin of CentralNotice on meta.
So on this issue I currently only speak on the "bulk updating" issue and I
would like to note that I do not speak for the discovery team who have the
most focus on both geodata and Wikidata. However I do have a decent passing
knowledge about this:
This is a pretty complex issue compounded that
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