Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please welcome the Wikimedia Foundation's new Chief Operating Officer, Janeen Uzzell

2019-02-14 Thread Pine W
Hi Janeen, It's nice to "meet" you. I hope that you like your new role. May I ask what your goals are in the COO role for the next few months? Thanks, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

[Wikimedia-l] Belated notification of the passing of User:Corinne

2019-02-11 Thread Pine W
Dear colleagues of Wikimedia-l, I learned today of the 2018 passing of User:Corinne. I feel that Corinne's substantial contributions to Wikimedia merit forwarding the news of her passing to this email list [0]. Corinne had a Master's degree in Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2019-02-08 Thread Pine W
then please vote in the Doodle poll. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:15 PM Pine W wrote: > Hi folks, > > Based on comments that I received on Wikimedia-l, I would like to invite > people to a casual online meetup one hour before the monthly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Analytics] Farewell, Erik!

2019-02-06 Thread Pine W
Thanks for your work, Erik. I hope that we will see you in the future. This is the first time that I can recall hearing about a person retiring from WMF. Volunteer retirements and semi-retirements happen regularly, and the reasons that I hear for those retirements are often sad. It's nice to hear

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lisa Lewin joining Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2019-02-03 Thread Pine W
Hi Andy, Thank you for bringing up the subject of image licensing. While I am not an expert in the subject, I agree that compliance with licensing standards is important. At the same time, I would like to suggest that image licensing might be a better topic for a separate thread. I share Teles'

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katherine Maher is now CEO and ED of the Wikimedia Foundation

2019-02-01 Thread Pine W
Maria, Thanks for the explanation. I think that people would have asked questions if no one explained the change. I for one usually appreciate communication happening sooner rather than later. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic planning for conferences

2019-01-31 Thread Pine W
Hi Alex, per Dan's suggestion that I provide a reminder of the original question, here is a reminder of part of what I wrote previously at https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2018-September/091113.html . "I think that it would be helpful to have a big picture understanding of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic planning for conferences

2019-01-30 Thread Pine W
Hi Alex, I hope that you are doing well. I originally started this email thread on Wikimedia-l near the end of September 2018, and four months have passed. I am still hoping to hear an update about WMF's strategy for conferences. I am trying to be patient and considerate, but I think that you may

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bounties…

2019-01-28 Thread Pine W
Hi Yaroslav, I'm not aware of such wide consensus against paid editing in general. Wikimedians in Residence, for example, often seem to be paid contributors, and I can't recall the last time that I heard criticism of the concept of Wikimedians in Residence. However, you may know more about the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions about proposed new Chapter agreement for Wikimedia Portugal

2019-01-27 Thread Pine W
Hi Gonçalo, I have limited familiarity with the situation with Wikimedia Portugal, but I am glad that there seems to be some movement on a path forward here. I have had similar questions about WMF trademarks in the past. My quick read of the trademark provisions that you included in your email

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2019-01-23 Thread Pine W
Sorry, I started the meeting but the meeting ID number was wrong. I don't know how that happened. I think that this problem has been corrected, so if you were trying to connect, please try again. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 12:49 PM Pine W wrote

[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia fue brevemente inaccesible en Venezuela / Wikipedia was briefly inaccessible in Venezuela

2019-01-17 Thread Pine W
Estoy enviando noticias que Wikipedia fue brevemente inaccesible en Venezuela. https://netblocks.org/reports/wikipedia-blocked-in-venezuela-as-internet-controls-tighten-XaAwR08M

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] A difficult goodbye

2019-01-10 Thread Pine W
Thank you for your service, Victoria. I'm glad that your next steps sound like they will be good for you professionally and will be at another organization that does public service. I've appreciated that you have been consistently responsive and polite in our interactions. I wish you the best on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic planning for conferences

2019-01-09 Thread Pine W
Hi Alex, I hope that your 2019 is starting well. You may remember this thread from Wikimedia-l that I started near the end of September. Would you please provide an update regarding strategic planning for conferences? I realize that you may have several projects on your agenda including hiring a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2019-01-08 Thread Pine W
a reminder about this event, so please mark your calendars now if you want to attend. Thanks! Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 3:07 PM Pine W wrote: > Hi, > > The next "Wikimedia Café" meetup will be on Wednesday the 23rd of January, > on a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking for Liaisons for the Movement Strategy Process

2019-01-07 Thread Pine W
Fae, I have a number of points of contention with WMF, but at least as far as the strategy process is concerned WMF has done a few things that no one was forcing it to do such as being willing to discuss how money is collected and distributed, and Kaarel has been diplomatic in my communications

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] Structured data - file captions coming this week (January 2019)

2019-01-07 Thread Pine W
Thanks for the news, Keegan. I'm cross-posting the info to other lists with the date boldly corrected. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) --- Hi all, following up on last month's announcement... [0] Multilingual file captions will be released this week, on either Wednesday, 9

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2019-01-02 Thread Pine W
ood place to ask questions or to discuss ideas, regarding Wikidata or other Wikimedia topics. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:15 PM Pine W wrote: > Hi folks, > > Based on comments that I received on Wikimedia-l, I would like to invite > people t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-02 Thread Pine W
Sorry, I meant to say Amharic, not Armenian. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 9:45 PM Pine W wrote: > Hi, > > My opinion is that the block should be lifted. However, to the best of my > knowledge, an appeal of a local block to the larger W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-02 Thread Pine W
Hi, My opinion is that the block should be lifted. However, to the best of my knowledge, an appeal of a local block to the larger Wikiverse has never been successful. I am guessing that there are at least four factors here: 1. a lack of consensus for a process for appealing a local block to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update and feedback results from the Wikimedia's chairpersons retreat

2019-01-01 Thread Pine W
tzik Edri* > Chairperson > it...@wikimedia.org.il > +972-54-5878078 > > > > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 5:39 AM Pine W wrote: > > > Hi Itzik, Frans, and Vojtěch, > > > > I am very behind on email but I wanted to say thanks for sharing this > &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update and feedback results from the Wikimedia's chairpersons retreat

2018-12-29 Thread Pine W
Hi Itzik, Frans, and Vojtěch, I am very behind on email but I wanted to say thanks for sharing this report from the chairpersons' meeting. I am wondering whether, for the purposes of (1) increasing the cost effectiveness of travel expenses, (2) reducing the negative environmental effects from

[Wikimedia-l] Feliz Navidad y feliz año nuevo / Merry Christmas and happy new year

2018-12-25 Thread Pine W
(Hello, I am writing first in Spanish and then in English. Pido disculpas por cualquier error en la español.) Hola, espero que todos los que celebran los días festivos en esta época del año disfruten de su tiempo. Encontré algunos videos que pensé que a Wikimedians les gustaría. Supongo que la

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Contents of annual reports from Wikimedia affiliate organizations

2018-12-08 Thread Pine W
Some further thoughts about reporting: * Many affiliates already produce quantitative and qualitative information for their grant reports. I would like to see much of that same information about inputs and outputs included in annual reports, both for Global Metrics and for custom metrics. * I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposed changes to the Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws

2018-12-08 Thread Pine W
I think that the proposals are worth considering, although my wish list for reforming the WMF Board has other priorities at this time (especially regarding transparency, and the changing of the Founder's seat to a community-selected seat). I think that these proposals should wait until after the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Contents of annual reports from Wikimedia affiliate organizations

2018-11-29 Thread Pine W
I'm going to respond to both Chris and Gerard in one email. Gerard: * I agree that it's possible to over-bureaucratize projects, including small projects. This is one of the reasons that I think that performance analysis should mostly be done with staff or contractor time rather than volunteer

[Wikimedia-l] Contents of annual reports from Wikimedia affiliate organizations

2018-11-28 Thread Pine W
Hello, This email is mainly addressed to Affcom and WMF but I would like to hear others' comments also. Some background information regarding the context for this email: the recently published annual reports from user groups reminded me of some issues that I first considered a few years ago. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l diversity and level of participation

2018-11-20 Thread Pine W
; prefer to at least share them with you. Feel free to do whatever you feel > appropriate with that.  > > Cheers > > Le 7 novembre 2018 22:58:11 GMT+01:00, Pine W a > écrit : >> >> Hello Wikimedia-l, >> >> One subject that continues to be a source of con

Re: [Wikimedia-l] appeal of fundraising technical wish denial

2018-11-20 Thread Pine W
Hi James, Although I have a variety of frustrations with WMF Community Resources and for COI reasons I would like to have ways to fund Wikimedia projects with minimal involvement or approvals from WMF, I agree with Danny that your proposal as written is likely outside of the scope for the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject lines for WMF fundraising emails

2018-11-16 Thread Pine W
and it will always be > an ongoing challenge in our work. > > We are grateful to be presented with this challenge and with the joy of > telling millions of people about this movement. Thank you for caring so > deeply, for all your contributions, and for keeping this feedback loop > ali

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject lines for WMF fundraising emails

2018-11-14 Thread Pine W
Hi Seddon, While the fundraising appeal may be successful, the problem that I have with this subject line is that it can mislead readers into thinking that someone with the ability to do so is seriously considering, or making an effort to, delete Wikipedia in entirety. I think that a subject

[Wikimedia-l] Subject lines for WMF fundraising emails

2018-11-13 Thread Pine W
There is a report from a user on Jimbo's talk page on ENWP regarding receiving fundraising a fundraising email with the subject line "[NAME] - Deleting Wikipedia?" In previous years I've disagreed with some of WMF's fundraising choices, and it would be unfortunate if in the era of "fake news"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Flash fundraiser for Wikimedia Portugal

2018-11-13 Thread Pine W
For what it's worth, I am sorry to hear about this painful situation. I don't know enough about the situation in WMPT, WMF, and AffCom, to say much more than that at this time, and I have no authority to intervene, but I hope that the chapter is viable and that in there will be a light at the end

[Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 11 November 2018)

2018-11-10 Thread Pine W
This is a more solemn email than is usual. I recognize that this email reflects my personal view, and if this email is not something that you appreciate then I invite you to disregard it and write your own email regarding something that makes you happy or grateful this week. The 11th of November

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Summit 2019: Registration now open

2018-11-09 Thread Pine W
Hi Paulo, As much as I am concerned about the situation between WMPT and AffCom, and as much as I would like to see more transparency from AffCom, I would like to request that those subjects be kept separate from this thread which is primarily about a conference. Also, WikimediaAnnounce-l is for

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l diversity and level of participation

2018-11-07 Thread Pine W
Hello Wikimedia-l, One subject that continues to be a source of concern for me is that I'd like to have a greater quantity and greater diversity of participants on Wikimedia-l. I have heard that some people feel that their English skills are not good enough to participate here, and I don't know

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic planning for conferences

2018-11-04 Thread Pine W
?greetings,AdOp zo 4 nov. 2018 20:58 schreef Pine W Hello,>> My request from September has gone unanswered, so I am trying again. I> don't think that there is a single point of contact for conference funding> and strategy at WMF, but I think that there should be, and perh

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic planning for conferences

2018-11-04 Thread Pine W
. I don't know who I should ping but I'm hoping that Katy can provide at least a partial response, or direct this email to someone who can do so. Thanks, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 5:55 PM Pine W wrote: > Mindful of the ongoing discussions ab

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Summit 2019: Registration now open

2018-11-02 Thread Pine W
While I support the concept of this event in regards to gathering affiliates and those at WMF who work with affiliates, I feel that I should remind people that, as interesting as this event will likely be, it is not an all-Wikimedia summit. I continue to object to the name of the event. While I

[Wikimedia-l] Was macht dich diese Woche glücklich? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 28 October 2018)

2018-10-29 Thread Pine W
User:SuperHamster has done a remarkable amount of volunteering for Wikimedia in the United States this year. In addition to supporting the Ohio Wikimedians User Group ,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] REMINDER: Invitation to the October 2018 Wikimedia Monthly Activities Meeting: Thursday, October 25th, 18:00 UTC

2018-10-26 Thread Pine W
Hi Fae, I would like to mention that WikimediaAnnounce-l is supposed to forward to Wikimedia-l (although there have often been technical problems with this and I believe that these problems are ongoing), so under the present system it may not be possible for Wikimedia-l subscribers to escape from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on recruiting for the Chief of Community

2018-10-24 Thread Pine W
Putting our differences aside for a minute, one thing for which Maggie will have my eternal appreciation is her stepping into her current role during a time of higher-than-average chaos. I don't know how that felt from inside of WMF, but from my perspective that appeared to be generous and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal regarding norms for meeting/deadline announcements

2018-10-21 Thread Pine W
Hi Lodewijk, I want to encourage people to feel comfortable with posting in-scope and civil emails to WMF mailing lists, but my personal opinion is that the number of reminders is sometimes excessive and the related costs are non-trivial. My view is that excessive reminders about meetings have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2018-10-21 Thread Pine W
is the same as for the August meetup (see below) except for the change of date. If you have questions then you're welcome to email me on-list or off-list. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:15 PM Pine W wrote: > Hi folks, > > Based on commen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal regarding norms for meeting/deadline announcements

2018-10-19 Thread Pine W
I've heard little support for new norms regarding reminders and announcements of deadlines on Wikimedia-l and Wikitech-l, so I withdraw my proposal. I may revisit this subject in the future. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) ___

[Wikimedia-l] Proposal regarding norms for meeting/deadline announcements

2018-10-15 Thread Pine W
Hi Wikimedia-l and Wikitech-l, Keeping in mind the large numbers of subscribers on some Wikimedia email lists, the endless valuable uses for the time of knowledgeable volunteer Wikimedians, the significant financial costs for the time of many of the staff and contractors on these mailing lists,

[Wikimedia-l] Qu'est-ce qui te rend heureuse cette semaine? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 14 October 2018)

2018-10-14 Thread Pine W
Recently I spent some time on Commons, and I came across two things that I especially appreciated. The first is a story on Yann's user page . While I think that experience with participating on public Wikimedia projects is an important qualification

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Plea from Wikimedia Portugal

2018-10-12 Thread Pine W
I'm making some general comments, which I plan will be my last in this thread for awhile: * I think that a certain amount of compliance verification for WMF trademark agreements and affiliate agreements is understandable, and AffCom is one body that can participate in that verification. * WMF's

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikidata] Passing on praise/ISWC trip report

2018-10-12 Thread Pine W
Forwarding some good news. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) -- Forwarded message - From: Markus Kroetzsch Date: Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 12:30 AM Subject: [Wikidata] Passing on praise/ISWC trip report To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project. Dear all, I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Plea from Wikimedia Portugal

2018-10-10 Thread Pine W
SJ, maybe I should explain my comments about involvement of legal counsel in more detail. My understanding of the situation, which is far from complete and may be wrong, is that AffCom decided to intervene in this situation (1) before they had undertaken an effort to gather facts "on the ground",

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FileLinkTool

2018-10-09 Thread Pine W
Thanks, this looks like a nice addition that will cumulatively save people a lot of time if used widely. I'm forwarding to the Commons and Wikitech lists. I haven't tested it but the concept looks good. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:14 AM Ananth

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Plea from Wikimedia Portugal

2018-10-09 Thread Pine W
While I have limited knowledge of the facts in this situation, I am concerned about the possibility that AffCom is insufficiently investigating facts before making judgments. Interventions from Affcom which are undertaken with an insufficient knowledge of the facts risk doing more harm than good.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fallout from 2018 Wikimedian of the Year announcement

2018-10-03 Thread Pine W
Hi Farhad, I'm very impressed with your successes so far. My main concern is how much of this you seem to be doing by yourself. I hope that you have a group of people who are collaborating with you so that you don't feel responsible for doing everything personally, and that you aren't putting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FY1718 Fundraising Report now published

2018-09-30 Thread Pine W
Hi Thea, Thank you for sharing this report. I very much like the visual design, which I think is simple, clear, and concise. Who did the design? Regarding the sentences, "We imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Each year, with your

[Wikimedia-l] Strategic planning for conferences

2018-09-29 Thread Pine W
Mindful of the ongoing discussions about conferences, I think that it would be helpful to have a big picture understanding of the goals, plans, and budgets for conferences collectively. As far as I know, these are the types of recurring conferences: (1) Wikimania, which seems to be a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Pine W
Hi Cornelius, I understand the reasons for the change to the content of the conference, but I will continue to disagree on the name and the importance of naming things . In the Wikiverse there is a large vocabulary for tools, policies,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Pine W
8 at 9:20 PM Cornelius Kibelka < cornelius.kibe...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > Dear Pine, > > yes, "the organized part of the movement" is another term to describe the > part of the Wikimedia movement that includes the WMF, its committees and > the affiliates. > > Best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suspensions of affiliates

2018-09-25 Thread Pine W
I don't want affiliates to get a free pass to create problems or neglect their responsibilities such as by failing to produce reports, misusing trademarks, misappropriating funds, etc., and I am glad to see that AffCom is taking action when it thinks that there are problems. However, I am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Pine W
Hello Daniela and Cornelius, Thank you for this update. Can you clarify what you mean by "The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general"? Are you referring to governance for the WMF and affiliates? Online

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2018-09-24 Thread Pine W
he end of Wednesday.) Thanks, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:15 PM Pine W wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> Based on comments that I received on Wikimedia-l, I would like to invite >> people to a casual online meetup one ho

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Design] [Presentation in 20 min] Results from 2018 global Wikimedia survey

2018-09-20 Thread Pine W
Hi Edward, I just want to say thanks for working on this. For me, learning about the survey results is interesting and informative. I'm hoping to go through team-level reports this weekend. Thanks again, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 3:38 PM Edward

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suspensions of affiliates

2018-09-18 Thread Pine W
I have several thoughts regarding this and related issues, but my main feeling is that we should not hide news that would be in the public interest to communicate, such as the suspension of an affiliate or an investigation into an affiliate's use of trademarks, simply because it is bad news or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF and non-WMF funding for Wikimedia work

2018-09-06 Thread Pine W
times in Greek wikipedia... > > Στις Τρί, 4 Σεπ 2018 - 00:03 ο χρήστης Pine W > έγραψε: > > > Hello colleagues, > > > > A topic which I feel that I should address again on this mailing list is > > revenue for Wikimedia work, specifically WMF and non-WMF sources of &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF and non-WMF funding for Wikimedia work

2018-09-05 Thread Pine W
I think that this leaves all of us who request WMF grants in difficult positions, because either we get along with WMF or we risk WMF cutting off our funding, and there are few non-WMF alternatives for funding Wikimedia work. Even if someone finds a non-WMF alternative for funding Wikimedia work,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF and non-WMF funding for Wikimedia work

2018-09-03 Thread Pine W
discussion on this topic then I may ask that we move the conversation to a wiki page. Regards, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 9:02 PM Pine W wrote: > Hello colleagues, > > A topic which I feel that I should address again on this mailing list is

[Wikimedia-l] ما الذي يمنحك السعادة هذا الأسبوع؟ / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 2 September 2018)

2018-09-03 Thread Pine W
*The Guardian* published an encouraging opinion piece about Wikipedia: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/02/in-hysterical-world-wikipedia-ray-of-light-truth In *This Month in Education*, there were some nice reports. I especially appreciated this report from The Hashemite

[Wikimedia-l] WMF and non-WMF funding for Wikimedia work

2018-09-03 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, A topic which I feel that I should address again on this mailing list is revenue for Wikimedia work, specifically WMF and non-WMF sources of revenue. I will start by talking about my personal situation, and then discuss some related situations. I am currently requesting a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Portugal General Assembly

2018-09-03 Thread Pine W
Hello Gonçalo, Thank you for this report. I would like to ask the Affiliations Committee to post the July 2018 resolution regarding Wikimedia Portugal to this mailing list and to publish that resolution on Meta. I am an advocate for transparency about financial and governance matters, which

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2018-08-30 Thread Pine W
in the Café then please mark your calendars now, because I will send at most one more reminder before the September meetup. *Au revoir* <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/au_revoir>, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 6:24 PM Pine W wrote: > Hi folks, &g

[Wikimedia-l] Vad gör dig lycklig den här veckan? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 26 August 2018)

2018-08-29 Thread Pine W
Wikimedia Sverige recived a $65,500 grant from the Swedish National Library in support of the Library Data project: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2018-August/012351.html WMDE has multiple open staff positions in software development, design, fundraising, and legal services:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia's sourcing

2018-08-29 Thread Pine W
Hi Sashi, I think that there is a research project regarding Wikipedia sources in the WMF Annual Plan for this fiscal year. I believe that the Head of the Wikipedia Library, Jake Orlowitz, is involved. I suggest that you reach out to him at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ocaasi_(WMF). Also,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2018-08-29 Thread Pine W
ed or have something else that is important to do during the Café time tomorrow. This is a social invitation. Until next time, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:15 PM Pine W wrote: > Hi folks, > > Based on comments that I received on Wikime

Re: [Wikimedia-l] C-team Statement on the Code of Conduct

2018-08-14 Thread Pine W
James, let's stay on topic, please. If you want to talk about other issues then please start a new thread. Victoria, I have mixed feelings about this statement. I agree that we want to have civility in technical spaces, and a technical code of conduct is one important way of working toward that

[Wikimedia-l] Шта те чини срећном ове недеље? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 12 August 2018)

2018-08-12 Thread Pine W
Recently, I was outside at night, and I was fortunate to see several meteors. The 2018 Perseid meteor shower is at its peak this weekend. Also, yesterday I spent some time on English Wikipedia's main page and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation website has soft launched!

2018-08-11 Thread Pine W
Greg, thank you for the update. Now would be a good time to correct the faulty information that's on the main page of the new website in the "Key Information" section. I have several more pointed thoughts, but I think that those comments would further alienate WMF people and you/they would react

[Wikimedia-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2018-08-09 Thread Pine W
Hi folks, Based on comments that I received on Wikimedia-l, I would like to invite people to a casual online meetup one hour before the monthly WMF Metrics and Activities Meeting. There will be no set agenda. You can come with questions or ideas that you would like to discuss. Please be willing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fallout from 2018 Wikimedian of the Year announcement

2018-08-09 Thread Pine W
Hi Farhad, Thank you for your generosity with your time as you respond to the requests and new opportunities. I like Andy's suggestions. Wikimedia Armenia crossed my mind also as potentially a good organization to contact for ideas, because I have the impression that they have a good (but not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] August 2018 "Community Metrics and Activities Meeting"

2018-08-06 Thread Pine W
and it > sounded like work, not rewarding. the opposite of fun. not sure if a > regular meetup would work better? a hangout? same time all the time. no > matter how many persons are there, maybe once a month? one would need to > think a little about the fun though. > > On Sun, Aug 5, 2

Re: [Wikimedia-l] August 2018 "Community Metrics and Activities Meeting"

2018-08-05 Thread Pine W
content contributors and grassroots project organizers, and I'd be glad to see suggestions and initiatives which do this. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Pine W wrote: > Hi all, > > The number of people who have participated in the Do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] August 2018 "Community Metrics and Activities Meeting"

2018-08-03 Thread Pine W
://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Pine W wrote: > I am attempting this one more time, with more advance notice and some > alterations to the agenda. > > Here is a Doodle poll with options for scheduling: > https://doodle.com/poll/iycrgia2wqune63g. >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation has soft launched!

2018-08-03 Thread Pine W
Greg, while mentioning that there are talk pages and Phabricator tasks is fine, the issues and questions raised on this mailing list are on topic and not so specific that moving them off list seems necessary. I think that you should generally respond to questions and comments here if they were

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation has soft launched!

2018-08-01 Thread Pine W
Hi Greg, thank you for the update. The bold visual design is interesting. Hopefully WMF's target audiences will like it. I have a couple of concerns. This is not intended as an attack, and please try not to take this personally. 1. I am a bit uncertain about the appropriateness of asking

[Wikimedia-l] August 2018 "Community Metrics and Activities Meeting"

2018-07-30 Thread Pine W
I am attempting this one more time, with more advance notice and some alterations to the agenda. Here is a Doodle poll with options for scheduling: https://doodle.com/poll/iycrgia2wqune63g. I have created a page on Meta where people who want to include an agenda item can do so:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Would people be interested in a "Community Metrics and Activities Meeting"?

2018-07-30 Thread Pine W
I made an error with the URL. Apparently the link should be https://zoom.us/j/528900812 for people who want to join with the Zoom software. Attendance has been very light but I will schedule a future meeting like this with more notice, perhaps a more structured agenda, and hopefully with a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Would people be interested in a "Community Metrics and Activities Meeting"?

2018-07-28 Thread Pine W
Hi all, I am scheduling this meeting for Monday, July 30th at 7 PM UTC / 12 PM Pacific. The number of people who have indicated interest is small, so this will be more of a casual meetup than a formal event. I think that this type of online international meetup could be fun and interesting.

[Wikimedia-l] "State of Wikimedia Research" presentation at Wikimania 2018

2018-07-27 Thread Pine W
In case people are interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE2UQu3r6vE The topics covered include: * Media and images * Talk page debates * Comparisons of Wikipedia language editions * Who is not participating? * Wikipedia as a source of data Pine (

[Wikimedia-l] Would people be interested in a "Community Metrics and Activities Meeting"?

2018-07-25 Thread Pine W
Although there will not be a WMF Metrics and Activities Meeting this month, I'm wondering, would people be interested in having a "Wikimedia Community Metrics and Activities Meeting"? People could present lightning talks about their subjects of interest (one to five minutes long), and we could

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Concerns about WMF's "Manager of Community Development" job posting

2018-07-23 Thread Pine W
k. The value of edit-a-thons, "management > > effort" dedicated to organizing organizations and paying staff and all > that > > entails and other soft efforts is less well established. I don't think > the > > creation of a management layer position over existing staff and work at &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

2018-07-23 Thread Pine W
Hi Paulo, Let me ask a question. What suggestions do you have for Nicole and Kaarel about how to improve the strategy process? I hope that they will be receptive to your input. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

2018-07-22 Thread Pine W
Speaking in general terms about diversity of the WGs, this is a challenging topic even for people who have the best of intentions. What do we mean by "diversity" and "bias" in regards to the composition of the WGs? That discussion alone could be extensive and there might not be consensus on the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Inc. working with Go Fish Digital, a company that whitewashes Wikipedia

2018-07-22 Thread Pine W
I'd like to distinguish between *monitoring* Wikipedia for changes that could affect PR, which is fine (so long as they don't put unreasonable loads on WMF's technical infrastructure), and *editing* Wikipedia in a way that breaks any number of community rules and/or the WMF TOS. If they were

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Concerns about WMF's "Manager of Community Development" job posting

2018-07-15 Thread Pine W
Hi Ad, I agree that WMF support for training can be beneficial (although, given the choice, I would prefer non-WMF funding sources in order to minimize conflicts of interest between community/affiliate goals and WMF). However, the more firmly that WMF tries to elevate itself as the manager of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Concerns about WMF's "Manager of Community Development" job posting

2018-07-15 Thread Pine W
unity   Development" job posting On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 2:00 AM, Pine W wrote: > 1. It sounds like WMF intends to centralize the training and leadership > development work that in recent years has largely been done by affiliates and > grantees, meaning that affiliates should probably

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Concerns about WMF's "Manager of Community Development" job posting

2018-07-14 Thread Pine W
nd subsequent Foundation plans. The role is designated as "Manager" as they will have staff for whom they are responsible, just as other manager positions in the Foundation do. Best regards, Maggie On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 4:31 PM Pine W wrote: > Hello WMF folks, > > I h

[Wikimedia-l] Concerns about WMF's "Manager of Community Development" job posting

2018-07-13 Thread Pine W
Hello WMF folks, I have some concerns about this job posting:  https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/1239209 In some ways I appreciate that WMF wants to invest more money and time in identifying and developing potential volunteer leaders. However, I also have some concerns. * This role

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikimedia Foundation's FY18-19 Annual Plan is on Meta-wiki

2018-07-01 Thread Pine W
Hi James, Let me start with something positive to say before I discuss problems. I think that there were some good intentions with this plan. Also, I think that some good things will happen this year, such as with Structured Data on Commons and with the Audience Department's Growth Team,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikimedia Foundation's FY18-19 Annual Plan is on Meta-wiki

2018-06-29 Thread Pine W
I am looking forward to the year ahead too. However, for the record, I am disappointed with several aspects of the AP document as currently written, and it is not a document that I would have approved in its current form. I think that WMF should have its APs scrubbed by an uninvolved expert

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Open Call for Working Group members

2018-06-21 Thread Pine W
s budget is out of my scope of work, but your question has been forwarded to the relevant people. Have a good continuation to your week! Kaarel On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:29 AM Pine W wrote: > Hi Kaarel, > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Kaarel Vaidla > wrote: > > >  Dear Pin

[Wikimedia-l] Què us fa feliç aquesta setmana? / What makes you happy this week? (Week of 17 June 2018)

2018-06-16 Thread Pine W
Below are some recent highlights from the wikiverse. Here is a Phabractor ticket regarding the showcase from Wikimedia Hackathon 2018 in Barcelona: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195219 Here is the Wikidata report from the May 2018 issue of *This Month in GLAM*:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Open Call for Working Group members

2018-06-16 Thread Pine W
/w/index.php?title=Strategy/ > Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups=10598095& > diff=18129628=18125168 > > > Probably good to know. Thanks Kaarel & Nicole. > > Best, > Lodewijk > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 5:29 PM Pine W wrote: > > > Hi Kaa

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