Re: [Wikimedia-l] June 4 1800 Maggie Dennis office hour (with a twist)

2020-06-06 Thread Pine W
Hello, I'm trying to respond to this calmly here. I request we think about the issues from some more angles. I feel somewhat defensive, but not combative. I hope that this makes sense. English Wikipedia took an enormous amount of volunteer effort to build, and volunteers are people too. Some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] June 4 1800 Maggie Dennis office hour (with a twist)

2020-06-05 Thread Pine W
Agreed that office hours are a nice idea, although 1. For privacy reasons,I don't think that they need to be on video. Sue had them on IRC. In the Wikimedia Cafe several of us use audio only. 2. I'm digesting what Maggie said about the incidents of last July. I'm not sure that the version of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "What's making you happy this week?" emails paused

2020-05-30 Thread Pine W
n happened. I would be glad to see other people write similar emails. Thank you for reading, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 6:42 PM Pine W wrote: > > Hello colleagues, > > I am pausing "What's making you happy this week?" emai

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café online meeting for May 2020

2020-05-28 Thread Pine W
你好,* A reminder that this month's Wikimedia Café will start 48 hours from now. This month's meetup will focus on the recently announced 2030 strategy recommendations. (See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations.) Mehrdad Pourzaki, who is the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Trust and safety on Wikimedia projects

2020-05-22 Thread Pine W
Hello, I share the Board's interest in many of these matters. However, I remind the WMF Board that it exists to serve the Wikimedia community, not the other way around. Also, I recommend that the Board take great care in approaching these matters diplomatically and with appreciation for the

[Wikimedia-l] Preventing conflicts of interest in Wikimedia organizations' employment and financial relationships

2020-05-20 Thread Pine W
Awhile back I saw a joke that when reading a newspaper someone had difficulty distinguishing between the business section and the crime section. These days, the politics section could cause similar confusion. Recently I have wondered about the extent to which WMF and the affiliates take steps to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

2020-05-19 Thread Pine W
For what it's worth, I think that devoting WMF staff time and/or consultant time to developing a strategy for Commons and possibly another sister media project would be well worth considering. I would likely support redirecting resources from the branding project to such a strategy project. Pine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

2020-05-17 Thread Pine W
If memory serves me correctly, as Steinsplitter said, there has been pushback on Commons regarding allowing NC-licensed images on Commons, but I can't recall if there was a consensus regarding having a site that is an alternative to Commons and allow images with NC licenses. I'm not sure how much

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

2020-05-16 Thread Pine W
Personally, I wish that Commons permitted images with licenses that restricted the images to noncommercial use only. There are some media files that I would have uploaded to Commons if this was the case. I have seen at least previous discussion about this but I can't remember what happened to it.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café online meeting for May 2020

2020-05-16 Thread Pine W
I remembered to adjust US Pacific time for DST but forgot to do the same for US Eastern time. The US Eastern time will be 12:30. Sorry about that. As you may have noticed, we are holding the UTC constant regardless of DST changes. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café online meeting for May 2020

2020-05-16 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, == Announcements for this month == The next Wikimedia Café meetup will occur on 30 May 2020 at 9:30 AM Pacific / 11:30 AM Eastern / 4:30 PM UTC / 10 PM IST. This month's meetup will focus on the recently announced 2030 strategy recommendations. See

[Wikimedia-l] "What's making you happy this week?" emails paused

2020-05-10 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, I am pausing "What's making you happy this week?" emails; however, other people are welcome to start threads. More detailed information follows. I hope to resume publishing emails but I do not know when this will happen. I might send emails on alternating weeks. Also, I am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updates from Wikimedia Foundation Board

2020-05-05 Thread Pine W
I mostly agree with Risker up until her last paragraph. It is true that Wikipedia has received a some positive coverage in the press recently. I think that this is largely due to the good work of employees in WMF's Technology and Audiences departments, and volunteers who participate in subjects

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updates from Wikimedia Foundation Board

2020-05-02 Thread Pine W
Andy, I was going off of this statement: "In order to ensure sustained community representation on the Board, we are extending the terms of the three community-selected trustees currently occupying those seats (María, Dariusz, and James) for up to a year until we are all ready to run the postponed

[Wikimedia-l] Passings of Users Tsirel, Muidlatif, Dmitrismirnov, and Ronhjones

2020-05-02 Thread Pine W
Hello Wikimedia-l colleagues, It has come to my attention that the following four contributors have passed on. The obituaries here are adapted from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2020, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2019, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Preparing for feedback on naming convention proposals

2020-05-02 Thread Pine W
I would like to hear from the WMF Board what their thoughts are regarding what is happening here. In particular, I would like to hear the Board's explanation for why they think that this a good use of donated money and everyone's time. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

[Wikimedia-l] Passing of User:Kattenkruid

2020-04-27 Thread Pine W
Dear Wikimedia-l colleagues, I am writing to share the news of the passing of User:Kattenkruid. He was an administrator on Dutch Wikipedia who made over 73,000 contributions. His final edit to Dutch Wikipedia placed a welcome template on another user's talk page. His user talk page on Dutch

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Café - Sat 25 April 2020...

2020-04-24 Thread Pine W
Hi RhonosF1, Thanks for the comment. I like the idea too. Coincidentally, a subject for discussion at the upcoming Café is obtaining non-WMF funding for community projects. A constant problem is that the community has a limited supply of people and time, and an extensive list of tasks and

[Wikimedia-l] คุณมีความสุขกับอะไรในสัปดาห์นี้? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 19 April 2020)

2020-04-23 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, Continued sympathies to those who are in challenging situations. Some changes are under consideration for these emails for the purpose of making them be more relatable to people who are in a wide variety of circumstances. More information regarding possible changes may be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Early thoughts regarding a global code of conduct and a GCC committee

2020-04-22 Thread Pine W
Hi, Thanks for the comments here. I'm busy with off-wiki activities today and can't respond with as much specificity as I would wish. I request that you copy these comments to the talk page on Meta for discussion there. Please keep in mind that this process is in the early stages. There are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Café - Sat 25 April 2020...

2020-04-22 Thread Pine W
Hi RhinosF1, The Café previously has been held on weekday mornings (US Pacific time). The schedule was moved to its current time after a suggestion that more people from India would attend at the new time. The average attendance has been significantly higher at the new time slot, so I think that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Early thoughts regarding a global code of conduct and a GCC committee

2020-04-19 Thread Pine W
Hello, I have published a draft proposal at the bottom of https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct. Discussion is welcome. A difficult issue is how to support diversity of expressions and opinions, even when those expressions or opinions may offend others, while also supporting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-04-15 Thread Pine W
Hmm. As Deskana has pointed out in the past, painting everyone at WMF with the same brush is problematic. It can demoralize people who do good work. At the same time, it's difficult to escape the conclusion that the same problems occur at WMF year after year. As the saying goes, "The more things

[Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 5 April 2020)

2020-04-15 Thread Pine W
* Preface * Hello, I regret that I need to start this email by communicating that Clovermoss is on an unplanned absence. [1] I hoped that she would return by now and that she would send this email. I think that one WMYHTW thread is enough for one week, so I will not start a thread for the week

[Wikimedia-l] Early thoughts regarding a global code of conduct and a GCC committee

2020-04-07 Thread Pine W
Hello, This topic has been in the back of my mind for awhile. Occasionally it comes up in conversations, and it has been discussed as part of the 2030 strategy process (see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20). I have a few early thoughts that I'd like to share. I

[Wikimedia-l] 这个星期让您感到开心的是什么? / What’s making you happy this week (Week of 29 March 2020)

2020-03-28 Thread Pine W
* From Pine * I would like to express gratitude to people who, instead of running away from the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic [1], are "running toward the fire", especially people who voluntarily accept personal risks. This includes many health care workers and people who have other public service

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-03-22 Thread Pine W
Hello, I heard indirectly that the rebranding work is being paused due to the issues with COVID-19. Is anyone able to confirm this? I would be relieved if WMF is pausing and will reconsider what it's doing with regards to rebranding. To reiterate a comment that I made previously, I am OK in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal

2020-03-20 Thread Pine W
Hi Dumisani, Thank you for the response. My concern is mainly regarding the idea of WMF unilaterally making a decision to implement protection of information or assets on Meta. The distinction that I am making is between a request and a unilateral action. If WMF thinks that there is a reason for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal

2020-03-17 Thread Pine W
Hello Dumisani , I would like to remind you of the questions in this thread, although I understand that there may be some delays in getting responses due to the issues with Covid-19. I have not looked into the new portal and I don't have an opinion about it, but I hope that affiliates will find

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Places for cross-project and multilingual coordination for Covoid-19 related topics

2020-03-17 Thread Pine W
* Covid-19. It helps if I'm not trying to do multiple things at once. Sorry about that. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 8:37 PM Pine W wrote: > > Hello, > > I'd like to suggest a few places where people can do cross-project and &g

[Wikimedia-l] Places for cross-project and multilingual coordination for Covoid-19 related topics

2020-03-17 Thread Pine W
Hello, I'd like to suggest a few places where people can do cross-project and multilingual coordination for Covoid-19 related topics. * The Wikimedia Medicine mailing list: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-medicine * On Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/COVID-19. This

[Wikimedia-l] Waar word jij blij van deze week? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 15 March 2020)

2020-03-16 Thread Pine W
== Preface == Mindful of the ongoing 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic [1], the tone of this week's email is more somber than some emails of the past. Let us hope that public health actions being taken in many places throughout the world are effective at "flattening the curve" [2], so that health care

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiProject COVID-19 (English Wikipedia) is started

2020-03-15 Thread Pine W
Hello, May I suggest that the discussion regarding the name take place somewhere other than Wikimedia-l? I think that a talk page of one of the relevant articles on English Wikipedia, a WikiProject Medicine talk page, or the WikiProject Medicine Mailing List, would all be reasonable venues. Pine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-03-13 Thread Pine W
Although Mike and I have differences of opinion about centralizing on the "Wikipedia" brand, one way in which I agree with Mike is that there are ways to have branding discussions that are not themselves controversial. Even if consensus was not reached, I for one would be more accepting of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-03-13 Thread Pine W
Hello, First, a disclaimer that these comments aren't directed personally at you, Essie. Even if money was unlimited, I thought that Snøhetta deserved the community's trust, and I felt that WMF was a good steward of resources (all of which are questionable), I don't think that this project is a

[Wikimedia-l] Catalog of Wikimedia video or interactive tutorials

2020-03-10 Thread Pine W
Hello, Some time ago, I started to gather information regarding existing and planned tutorials for Wikimedia which are in a video or interactive format. Initially this information was on Meta in a place which was difficult to find. I moved the content to

[Wikimedia-l] ¿Qué te está haciendo feliz esta semana? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 1 March 2020)

2020-03-02 Thread Pine W
Hello, * Preface * "What's making you happy this week?" is returning after an unplanned pause that was due to off-wiki events. User:Clovermoss and I agreed that we will try to alternate weeks writing this publication. I hope that this email, now in plain text format, is easier to read than

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Treatment of newbies with mild CoI

2020-03-01 Thread Pine W
Perhaps of interest to participants in this discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2020-03-01/Opinion, titled "Wikipedia is another country", by User:Gog the Mild (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gog_the_Mild). I'll quote two paragraph of this essay here. (For

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SEEKING A WIKIPEDIAN IN RESIDENCE! (U.S.)

2020-02-28 Thread Pine W
Community norms here include not using all caps in subject lines. There isn't a rule that says not to use them, but I can't recall ever seeing them here, and I don't want anyone to start. This is not CNN, Fox News, or Facebook. I'm accepting of people sending emails here that are somewhat

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimedia site and system outages

2020-02-28 Thread Pine W
Hello, A gentle reminder that four months have passed since the last update to this thread from WMF regarding the September DDoS incident. When will an incident report be published, or has a decision been made not to publish a report? Thanks, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SEEKING A WIKIPEDIAN IN RESIDENCE! (U.S.)

2020-02-26 Thread Pine W
Hi Jake, Thanks for the news. I am glad that there will be another opportunity for a Wikimedian in Residence. However, I request that none of us use all caps in subjects on the mailing lists, and that we be very limited in our use of tags such as "important". There is a large volume of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Treatment of newbies with mild CoI

2020-02-25 Thread Pine W
I have a more nuanced view. The community benefits from new editors who are acting in good faith and willing to learn. I agree that treatment of new editors can be problematic. On the other hand, having become one of the "insiders", I now understand how English Wikipedia has a limited supply of

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia Technical Talks] Data and Decision Science at Wikimedia with Kate Zimmerman, 26 February 2020 @ 6PM UTC

2020-02-24 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, I'm forwarding this announcement to additional email lists. Most public WMF meetings that are livestreamed on Youtube remain available for replay after the meeting, and I'm guessing that this one will be also. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) --

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Last chance to review the recommendations, next steps

2020-02-20 Thread Pine W
I'm fine with people having some private discussions. The more formal the discussion is, and the more public the implications of the discussions are, then the more I think that the discussions should be public with the exception of discussions involving information which there is a strong reason

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Last chance to review the recommendations, next steps

2020-02-16 Thread Pine W
Hello, A brief note to say thanks to Mehrdad and Rupika for their support of the January and/or February Wikimedia Café events. Also, thanks to volunteers who have been involved in the strategy process for their participation, thanks to User:Fuzheado for the one page summary of the strategy

[Wikimedia-l] Reminder: Wikimedia Café online meeting for February 2020 with focus on the 2030 strategy

2020-02-13 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, This is a reminder that this month's Wikimedia Café will start approximately 48 hours from now. -- Hello colleagues, The February 2020 Wikimedia Café meetup will occur on 15 February 2020 at 8:30 AM PST / 11:30 AM EST / 4:30 PM UTC / 10 PM IST. The date is earlier than usual

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-02-09 Thread Pine W
I've been reading sections of the strategy document with a couple of thoughts in mind. * The relatively decentralized nature of the community makes negotiations challenging, both within the community and between the community and WMF. * Clashes between the community and WMF are usually lose-lose

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café online meeting for January 2020 with focus on the 2030 strategy

2020-02-04 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, The February 2020 Wikimedia Café meetup will occur on 15 February 2020 at 8:30 AM PST / 11:30 AM EST / 4:30 PM UTC / 10 PM IST. The date is earlier than usual in the month due to scheduling constraints. This month's meetup will focus on the 2030 strategy recommendations, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-02-03 Thread Pine W
Hi Dan, I think that there are a couple of lines of thought here. I think that we should make a distinction between individuals and the institution of WMF. For the former, I think that you make a good point. Along the same lines, there were probably people who worked at WMF at the time and had

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snøhetta and Wikimedia

2020-02-01 Thread Pine W
Hello, I have waited to return to this thread until I could clear enough space in my mind to try to address it thoroughly. Apologies for the delay. I will try to address multiple topics in one email. I think that the Wikipedia brand is, in a way, the brand of the community. WMF is the steward of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement of the 2020 Ombuds Commission

2020-02-01 Thread Pine W
Hello Aron, First, a few disclaimers. I don't speak for Karen or the Ombuds, but I've briefly looked at your case. I don't have access to the information that ENWP Arbcom has, and I generally assume that ENWP Arbcom is competent and acts in good faith. In general, there is a problem with

[Wikimedia-l] HTML formatting of emails for Wikimedia-l

2020-01-30 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, I didn't think about this, but apparently Wikimedia-l removes HTML formatting from emails. For a long time, probably years, emails that I thought were being forwarded from Wikimedia-l to your email accounts with HTML formatting were not. This includes the WMYHTW emails. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-project promotion of Nordicism and white supremacist racial myths

2020-01-26 Thread Pine W
I hope that Wikiverse projects don't accidentally or intentionally promote unscientific theories, including those regarding race. I would like to think that we know better. However, there is a history in our world of people experiencing prejudice or being persecuted for race. This is a sad

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-01-25 Thread Pine W
Hi Aron, I should be careful not to paint everyone with the same brush. I have great respect for WMF's mission. It would be difficult to have adequate legal support and technical infrastructure for Wikimedia projects without one or more organizations providing formal and ongoing support. WMF as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-01-21 Thread Pine W
Hi Aron, Some of your comments remind me of arguments that I heard from WMF around the time that the WMF Board decided to let Lila have her way with Superprotect. WMF's solution to various question about who should make decisions and whether diverse needs were being adequately addressed was to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-01-20 Thread Pine W
Hi Leila and Todd, thanks for the constructive comments. I think that global consensus is possible, but it's challenging. I remain concerned about the current timeline for this strategy process. I think that after initial community discussions, a phased approach over a period of years for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-01-17 Thread Pine W
Hi Nicole and Kaarel, Thank you for sharing your comments. A few points: * I realize that a lot of time and money has been spent in the strategy process to this point. I hope that there will be consensus on at least some of the recommendations. * Hopefully the discussions in the next few weeks

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snøhetta and Wikimedia

2020-01-17 Thread Pine W
There are ways that Wikimedia rebranding consultations could be done collaboratively, politely, and with careful stewardship of donor's money. This is not one of them. I think that it's time for some people in WMF to move on. Without having access to WMF internal discussions, I don't know exactly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snøhetta and Wikimedia

2020-01-17 Thread Pine W
Umm. Looking at https://brandingwikipedia.org/, I wonder if this refers to WMF's ill-fated effort to rebrand Wikimedia as Wikipedia that I hope has been abandoned. I hope that WMF did not, without consulting the community or even having the courtesy to notify us, decide to launch another

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-01-14 Thread Pine W
Hi Anders, I think that the original hope was that there would be community consensus around the recommendations from the strategy process. However, what I have heard so far leads me to think that the reception to the recommendations has been mixed. Neither the WMF Board nor the community are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations and community conversations launching next week

2020-01-13 Thread Pine W
Hi Nicole, After reading this email, and taking into consideration a discussion that happened during the January online meeting of United States Wikimedians, I feel that the timeline here is aggressive and likely to result in problems. In particular, giving the core team one week to review

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation elections committee: Call for volunteers

2020-01-12 Thread Pine W
Risker makes some good points. An issue for which no one seems to have a solution is the gap between need and availability for reliable and skilled non-WMF people in numerous areas of the Wikiverse. These people can continue to shuffle between various roles and projects, but I think that having

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation elections committee: Call for volunteers

2020-01-12 Thread Pine W
Hello, As far as I know, there has been no functioning Elections Committee in awhile. I think that there should be one, and I am glad to see the interest in reviving it. So, thanks for the message, Joe. In the long term, similar to my opinion about separating the Ombudsman Commission from WMF, I

[Wikimedia-l] Passing of User:Brianboulton

2020-01-05 Thread Pine W
Dear colleagues, The English Wikipedia community received news that User:Brianboulton passed. Quoting User:Schrocat : "I have just received an email from Brian's daughter to say that he died peacefully

[Wikimedia-l] Passing of User:Angusmclellan

2020-01-05 Thread Pine W
Dear colleagues, I am writing to share the news of the passing of User:Angusmclellan . He made more than 64,000

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café online meeting for January 2020. Note the schedule change.

2019-12-31 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, The Wikimedia Café meetings have generally been well received. We had approximately seven people in the December meeting. In an attempt to make the meetings be accessible to more people, in January 2020 the Café is tentatively scheduled for a Saturday, and the Café will be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia was edited from the ISS

2019-12-30 Thread Pine W
I saw that user creation log and that does seem to me to be persuasive evidence, but persuasive evidence may not be conclusive proof. Carl Sagan said that "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence ", and I understand if people would like

[Wikimedia-l] Was macht dich diese Woche glücklich? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 29 Dec 2019)

2019-12-30 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, Please allow me to introduce User:Clovermoss . She volunteered to collaborate with me on writing this and future issues of *What's Making You Happy this Week?* and *The Signpost*'s "On the bright side". Clovermoss is from Canada.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia was edited from the ISS

2019-12-28 Thread Pine W
Hi Yury, I saw some excitement from people regarding this edit. However, I for one have been hesitant to make wider announcements about this. My personal concern is that, although I have every reason to believe that the contributor is who others claim that she is, the contributor did not self

[Wikimedia-l] Co sprawia, że jesteś szczęśliwy w tym tygodniu? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 22 December 2019)

2019-12-23 Thread Pine W
For those who celebrate these occasions, I wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year. I am happy to learn about holidays from diverse origins, and I would welcome people sharing information about holidays that they celebrate. Wikimedia Commons hosts several audio recordings of Christmas

[Wikimedia-l] 这个星期让您感到开心的是什么? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 15 Dec 2019)

2019-12-19 Thread Pine W
I recently visited the Burke Museum of Natural History and Culture . The museum opened a new building this year. Although I wish that the exhibits were larger, I enjoyed seeing the museum staff at work and talking with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café online meeting for December 2019

2019-12-19 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, This is a reminder that the December 2019 Wikimedia Café meeting will start approximately one hour from now. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 10:50 PM Pine W wrote: > Hello colleagues, > > For the next Wikimedia Café onl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Leadership change at Wikimedia Israel

2019-12-18 Thread Pine W
Michal, many thanks for your service. I remember when we talked online several years ago. Best wishes for your next steps, and I hope that you will keep in touch. Itzik, thank you for sharing this news. שָׁלוֹם Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-15 Thread Pine W
Regarding Timeless, folks may want to read https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Timeless/Post-deployment_support/Final . I'm cross-posting this thread to the public Design mailing list. That's usually a quiet list, but I think that if people want to have an extensive discussion that is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread Pine W
I'm thinking out loud here. Are there any estimates of would be required in terms of time (both staff time and community time) and money to make templates and other tools be much easier to globalize across wikis and across skins? I'm looking for an answer that is more specific than "a lot", but

[Wikimedia-l] Что вас радует на этой неделе? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 8 Dec 2019)

2019-12-08 Thread Pine W
Hello, In the light of recent suggestions that these emails become shorter, this week I will share only two comments of my own. * I am thankful for useful feedback regarding these emails. * I am thankful to someone who did a random act of kindness for me. Their action felt like gentle sunshine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brief request for advice about "What's making you happy this week?"

2019-11-30 Thread Pine W
happy, your bias. > But: making your email shorter (even going down to just 1 item per week) > would make room for others to share *their *views, creating a balance. > I hope you try the short version on this list (as I barely have time to go > through the Signpost!). > > Best, >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brief request for advice about "What's making you happy this week?"

2019-11-29 Thread Pine W
Hello, Thanks to everyone for the feedback. One point of some agreement among commenters is that they would prefer WMYHTW emails to be shorter. Those would be faster for me to write, but some problems with having a shorter list of subjects each week are that it could more easily lead to

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café online meeting for December 2019

2019-11-29 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, For the next Wikimedia Café online video meeting, agenda items include: * Documentation for Wikitext * The NavWiki project Last month's Wikimedia Café had a problem with an inaccurate

[Wikimedia-l] Brief request for advice about "What's making you happy this week?"

2019-11-25 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, I would like to ask for your advice about one issue with the "What's making you happy this week?" emails. I was hoping that people would frequently comment in the email threads and/or on the talk pages of WMYHTW publications in *The Signpost* to share what is making them happy,

[Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 24 November 2019) / ما الذي يجعلك تشعر بالسعادة هذا الأسبوع؟

2019-11-23 Thread Pine W
*Milestone for Arabic Wikipedia* Arabic Wikipedia surpassed 1 million articles. *Wikimedia Technical Conference reports* - Daily reports by

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Join us at the Wikimedia Summit in Berlin on 3-5 April 2020

2019-11-17 Thread Pine W
Hello Abraham and Katherine, Thank you for the announcement. I hope that people find the conference to be enjoyable and productive. The community has a highly distributed and non-pyramidal structure, and having "all the right people at the table to design the implementation" is unlikely. I

[Wikimedia-l] Ce te face fericit săptămâna asta? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 17 November 2019)

2019-11-16 Thread Pine W
*"The Wait"* This is a short film regarding wildlife photography . The film has scenes of European bison in Romania

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-16 Thread Pine W
Paul raises an interesting point about the placement of T that I hadn't considered, although I am thinking about this from a different angle. After the departure of Michelle Paulson, I've found WMF Legal to be considerably less responsive to emails that I've sent to legal@, and it would be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update regarding Wikipedia video tutorial project ("NavWiki")

2019-11-15 Thread Pine W
dia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Videowiki > > J > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 4:25 AM Pine W wrote: > > > > Hello colleagues, > > > > I have resumed work on my video tutorial project for Wikipedia and the > > sister sites. I am hoping that eventually there will be video tutorials

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community Engagement to leave the Foundation

2019-11-15 Thread Pine W
Thanks very much for the thorough explanation, Katherine. I'll share a few comments below. These aren't directed to anyone in particular. I have no opinion one way or another about the change of structure, but I hope that for everyone's sake this will be okay, perhaps even a net positive in the

[Wikimedia-l] Update regarding Wikipedia video tutorial project ("NavWiki")

2019-11-11 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, I have resumed work on my video tutorial project for Wikipedia and the sister sites. I am hoping that eventually there will be video tutorials and/or interactive tutorials in multiple languages, but for now I am focusing on producing a small number of videos for English

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 10 November 2019) / ߡߎ߲߬ ߞߵߌ ߟߊ߫ ߛߍߥߊ߫ ߞߎ߲߬ߢߐ߮ ߣߌ߲߬ ߞߘߐ߫؟

2019-11-11 Thread Pine W
paragraph. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing_system#Directionality.) Sorry about that. Let's see if this comes across correctly: "ߡߎ߲߬ ߞߵߌ ߟߊ߫ ߛߍߥߊ߫ ߞߎ߲߬ߢߐ߮ ߣߌ߲߬ ߞߘߐ߫؟". Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 3:52 PM Pine W wrote: > *

[Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 10 November 2019) / ߡߎ߲߬ ߞߵߌ ߟߊ߫ ߛߍߥߊ߫ ߞߎ߲߬ߢߐ߮ ߣߌ߲߬ ߞߘߐ߫؟

2019-11-11 Thread Pine W
*New Wikimedia affiliates* * Wikipedians of North Caucasus User Group * Wikimedians of Mali User Group *Wiki Loves Monuments national winners* Some of the

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café online meeting for November 2019

2019-11-06 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, For this month's Wikimedia Café online video meeting we will continue last month's discussion regarding Wikimedia activities and organizations in India. Additional topics may be added to the agenda. Please see the page on Meta

[Wikimedia-l] Kva gjer deg glad denne veka? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 3 November 2019)

2019-11-06 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, Welcome to a new "lightweight" version of WMYHTW. I hope that this version is nearly as enjoyable as the "heavyweight" versions from previous months. *Job openings* * Shared by Lydia Pintscher (WMDE): Product Manager for Wikibase

[Wikimedia-l] ഈ ആഴ്ച താങ്കളെ സന്തോഷിപ്പിച്ച വാർത്ത എന്താണ്? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 27 October 2019)

2019-10-27 Thread Pine W
Halloween fun * Image 1 : A walking plant was seen at the Anime North 2019 convention. 31 October is Halloween , and the primary author of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café online meeting for October 2019

2019-10-24 Thread Pine W
Hello, Reminder that this meeting will start in approximately two hours. (If you receive this email late then please see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235983.) Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 18:57 Pine W wrote: > Hello colleag

[Wikimedia-l] በዚህ ሳምንት እያስደሰቶት ያለው ምንድን ነው? / What’s making you happy this week? (Week of 20 October 2019)

2019-10-19 Thread Pine W
*Preface* User:Lucas Werkmeister started last week's WMYHTW email thread on Wikimedia-l and I was waiting for an Amharic translation, so I decided to delay this content from the week of 13

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Was macht dich diese Woche glücklich? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 13 October 2019)

2019-10-15 Thread Pine W
Thank you for starting the thread, Lucas. I was glad to read that technical work is going well. I am hoping to get an Amharic translation from a human translator for the subject line of my next WMYHTW email. I made some requests for the translation a few days ago. When I looked earlier today

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Café online meeting for October 2019

2019-10-12 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, The tentative plan for month's Wikimedia Café online video meeting is to discuss Wikimedia activities and organizations in India, and to start the meeting one hour earlier in the day than the previous Café meeting started. Please see the page on Meta

[Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What’s making you happy this week? (Week of 6 October 2019)

2019-10-11 Thread Pine W
Hello, This week's email is late and short, for which I apologize. I have a collection of information to share but I am trying to catch up on a backlog of email and today is already so late in the week that I decided to send a short email. I thank WMF Engineering and Site Reliability Engineering

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ombuds Commission now accepting nominations for 2020

2019-10-09 Thread Pine W
Hello, Sorry that I'm late replying to this thread. I have been very busy in the past few weeks. I have a proposal that likely will not affect the current round of appointments because implementation would require some time and careful deliberation. This proposal isn't intended as a personal

[Wikimedia-l] WMF work environment

2019-10-02 Thread Pine W
Hello, Something I am sensing from multiple sources, sometimes more through implication than specific statements, is that there is a sense of turmoil in WMF. I think that some amounts of internal politics and staff turnover are normal, but over the past few months I am sensing an increase in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Outcomes of the Harmonization Sprint in Tunis

2019-10-02 Thread Pine W
Hello, I hope that we can be candid about problems without becoming deeply cynical. I think that there are many problems in WMF, but I also don't want to demoralize good WMF board members, staff, or contractors (imagine what would happen if the good ones all quit) or any strategy working group

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