I'd like to throw this out for the weekend. I want to gather some ideas for
IMPLEMENTATIONS you'd like to see with existing RouterOS technology. I have a
few that I can think of off the top of my head that I will try to get
documented (some possibly for free - to be posted on my website). For
Matt,
Please see my responses and additional information inline.
Thanks,
jack
Matt Liotta wrote:
Jack Unger wrote:
Probably 90% of public safety organizations' Emergency Communications
Plans have made use of ham radio operators for years and continue to
make use of hams today.
W
AHA
I've been wondering where the hell that TruckPC request has been coming
from!!
Occasionally, I have techs who have left the radius authentication
disabled on an access point and the dhcp logs will start to fill up with
requests from "TruckPC". They were coming from access points
On 12/29/06, Brian Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You want to make sure what data they are giving you, is it just the
franchise boundaries or the built out cable areas? The built out data is
hard to find or very expensive if available.
Good point .. it may actually be the former.
The pro
You want to make sure what data they are giving you, is it just the
franchise boundaries or the built out cable areas? The built out data is
hard to find or very expensive if available.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
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Sent: Friday
Anyone ever check out this data from ESRI?
Or know of similar .. ?
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Well, JohnnyO- you might want to also educate these people, then:
http://www.drivertech.com/
Their product, a "Truckpc" is being installed in many fleet vehicles. One
fleet that comes to mind is US Express, a long haul package hauling service
http://www.usxpress.com/ The device communicates back
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Carl A jeptha wrote:
Backhaul CPE for some of our lighter microcells. My main Gateway is
an MT, my Router board (with a valid License) is packed away
waiting for me to decide something great to do with it. Come on
Butch tell me something :-)
Ummmyou can send it to me
Hi Ryan,
I realize this is somewhat tangential to your main point, but I wanted to
point out that EIGRP/IGRP aren't standard protocols, nor will they work with
any other router, necessarily. If you are shying away from proprietary
equipment, Cisco's proprietary routing protocols are the last thin
Jack Unger wrote:
I think that you will find that using an open access point to allow a
first-responder (police, fire, etc.) to communicate with the rest of the
world would not be considered a crime.
Technically, yes, it probably is. No prosecutor in this country would
touch it with a ten-fo
Brian, I can send you a couple for free if you need some for your
emergency response team.
I've got a bunch of Teletronics 802.11B EZ Bridges, 100mw and 200mw,
that I pulled and replaced with Lonnie's war boards. They work fine.
Have a web interface for survey and configuration and are just du
Johnny, you are probably right. There was a guy who was arrested
recently sitting in his car in front of someones house and we all
discussed it and there was 2 opinions:
1- If it aint secured, it's open and it 'should' be ok.
2- if you don't have permission your "stealing" regardless of it being
- Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing - Done Deal
Looks like it's a done deal.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061229/ap_on_bi_ge/
Jack Unger wrote:
Probably 90% of public safety organizations' Emergency Communications
Plans have made use of ham radio operators for years and continue to
make use of hams today.
While a ham could certainly make use of unlicensed spectrum, consumer
access points, and best effort internet conn
*** Jack Wrote .
---2. No, I am not saying that using illegal means to gain Internet
access
is OK. You are putting words into my mouth and I'm not going to let you
get away with that. I said that in an emergency, accessing an available
open access point to provide communications for emergency p
JohnnyO,
Please see my answers to your questions inline at the bottom of this email.
Thanks,
jack
JohnnyO wrote:
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From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing - Done Deal
Looks like it's a done d
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 6:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] recommendation forClient POE integrated radiofor
802.11b/g
Matt Liotta wrote:
> Jack Unger wrote:
>
>> OK,
WISPs should certainly be involved; some already are...
Also, some WISPs have ham employees who are already involved and trained
in emergency communications...
Carl A jeptha wrote:
This where wisps come in, they should be part of the emergency response
plan, not a half-assed after thought.
I
I have used a tr5a against an MT AP and no problems. I also use Tranzeo
6000 for AP's and really don't see them slowing down. They also act as
Backhaul AP's (at the same time) in PTMP mode for other microcell
backhauls. Granted we don't have amount of clients that you have. We
actually use the
Matt Liotta wrote:
Jack Unger wrote:
OK, I'll forgive the analogy but, in a real emergency, you have to do
what needs to be done.
Actually, in an emergency a public safety organization should make use
of their emergency communication plan, which really shouldn't rely on
unlicensed spectr
Mark McElvy wrote:
In general what is considered a better combination, lower powered radio
w/ higher gain antenna or higher powered radio w/ lower gain antenna?
Mark
Rule of thumbs, keep the beamwidth to a minimum and use the lowest power
needed to get the job done. These two rules will let
Use the Linksys wrt 54g as an Router/CPE, also reflash with dd-wrt
firmware including the models with vxworks.
You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees.
Carl A Jeptha
http://www.jeptha.com
905-349-2027
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W.D.McKinney wrote:
I am wondering if anyone has
Not the wife story again..
JohnnyO wrote:
What's illegal about it ? How about scanning and connecting and using an
open access point.
Jack - let me ask you a very simple question. If you left your front
door open, and I just happened to be walking by and noticed your wife,
would it be ok
This where wisps come in, they should be part of the emergency response
plan, not a half-assed after thought.
I have been trying to make my community understand that a well built
rural wireless solution should be part of every County's emergency plan..
in our ham operator's case, a quick call or
I never heard of them. Nice. What would one cost?
Brian
Rick Harnish wrote:
Chris,
I bought a 120v model this summer. We love it.
http://www.myte.com/products_utility.html
http://www.myte.com/distributors.asp?State=oh
Happy New Years!
Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband &
Jack Unger wrote:
OK, I'll forgive the analogy but, in a real emergency, you have to do
what needs to be done.
Actually, in an emergency a public safety organization should make use
of their emergency communication plan, which really shouldn't rely on
unlicensed spectrum, a consumer access po
JohnnyO wrote:
What's illegal about it ? How about scanning and connecting and using an
open access point.
I think that you will find that using an open access point to allow a
first-responder (police, fire, etc.) to communicate with the rest of the
world would not be considered a crime.
why? You're the only one against it
*wink* *wink* *nod* *nod*
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing
Apparently, the rumor is the
What's illegal about it ? How about scanning and connecting and using an
open access point.
Jack - let me ask you a very simple question. If you left your front
door open, and I just happened to be walking by and noticed your wife,
would it be ok if I came in and umm "connected" so to speak with
Mark,
A lower-powered radio with a higher gain antenna is IMHO, better. You
will receive less interference because your antenna will be listening
only in the desired direction(s). On transmit, you will cause less
interference to others who are not on your network.
jack
Mark McElvy wrote:
Holy brainfade, JohnnyO.
Your comments about "highly illegal" just went STRAIGHT over my head.
What's illegal about Brian's emergency communications operation? Hams
have been providing emergency communications services since (literally)
the sinking of the Titanic.
jack
JohnnyO wrote:
Br
Looks like it's a done deal.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061229/ap_on_bi_ge/att_bellsouth
Should be interesting to see:
1. If AT&T lives up to the terms of the deal.
2. If anybody watches to see if AT&T lives up to the terms of the deal.
3. If there's any enforcement ac
In general what is considered a better combination, lower powered radio
w/ higher gain antenna or higher powered radio w/ lower gain antenna?
Mark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Friday, December 29,
Brian - Ham Operator or not - do you realize that what you're planning
on doing is HIGHLY illegal and has several people over the past 2 yrs in
Federal Prison as we speak ?
Why don't ya'll get a VSAT system that works well for VOIP ? The cost is
only about $60/mo more and you have no restrictions
More comments...
http://www.savetheinternet.com/=wu
http://gigaom.com/2006/12/29/att-knows-when-to-fold-em/
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=113531&WT.svl=news1_3
http://news.com.com/ATT+offers+more+for+BellSouth+deal+approval/2100-1036_3-6146271.html?tag=nefd.top
http://www.d
Chris,
I bought a 120v model this summer. We love it.
http://www.myte.com/products_utility.html
http://www.myte.com/distributors.asp?State=oh
Happy New Years!
Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA
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Fr
Im looking for a reese hitch mount 12v capstan. Anybody have any
pointers to a good one?
Thanks
Chris
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Sounds like I'd want to stay away from YOU for the same reason...
Brian Webster wrote:
Id' like to stay away from YDI/Proxim just
because of their attitude on the phone whenever I have dealt with them.
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I'm looking for a good client radio to use in an emergency communications
vehicle. My criteria are, POE, highest gain panel antenna possible,
scan/survey tool built in, web interface, 802.11b at minimum. I'm part of a
ham radio emergency response group and we have our own comms van. I want to
have
Hi Ryan,
My favorite AP setup for 2.4 is StarOS/Orinoco card/YDI amplifier/YDI
180deg sector antenna - however some of these parts are getting harder
to find and/or don't work for a lot of situations. So here is the most
common one that I am deploying as of late:
StarOS/prism2511/tranzeo h-
Hi Jack,
We never hooked up to discuss things? I see you are alive and well though.
-Dee
Alaska Wireless Systems
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1(907)349-2226 Fax
1(907)349-4308 Office
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Here's a "Beware the Fine Print" comment...
http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/006164.html
jack
Matt Liotta wrote:
http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf
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Find some satellite TV contractors that want to know more. Ive found
them to be pretty skilled and slick at doing quality installs.
chris
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Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:59 PM
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I am going to attempt to hire some new CPE installers, as contractors, paid
by the job (peice work). (I see market rate around $100-$150 per
job -residential).
Finding guys that ALREADY know how to do it correctly, is not likely. This
brings me to Training.
How are you training the installer
My $0.0002(US) worth - we need to begin educating our customers and
implementing fair access policies to enforce them and then we need to
content label our services so that our customers understand what they
are getting with each type of service. Peer to Peer on a pc loaded with
stolen musi
Interesting comment Within 1 year return all own 2.5Ghz licenses or
leases to a third party entity.
In otherwords they can sell it to the highest bidder, apposed to donate it
to public use.
Also promising $10/month DSL. Ouch.
Its not easy to enforce mandatory coverage, but it is pretty eas
I am wondering if anyone has these deployed:
http://www.airlink101.com/products/ar504.html
We don't prefer Linksys at all.
-Dee
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Apparently, the rumor is the deal will be approved by the end of the day
today. Seems like there should be some time period for public comment.
-Matt
Matt Liotta wrote:
http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf
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Tom,
Our group, when at Nortel, developed a WEB cache product. That was during
the days when a typical business had only a 56k digital line to the
Internet.
It was very tough to do a generalized cache because very few sites had
expiration tags on their HTML components. However, a lot more do tod
Well said. You've covered issues in deploying your FCC certified radio product
with various pre-approved antennas.
Now, when it comes to selling a box with a computer and radio in it, the
questions are a bit different. If it's a radio integrated onto a computer
board, my belief it that it's g
Hire Jack Unger. He was patient enough to beat all the rules into my
head eventually.
C
If you hire a consultant that doesn't at least explain all of this to
you,
go hire a new consultant. The one you have either doesn't know the
rules or
he's only in it to take your money. And if he'll take
OK, lets be clear on what the rules are today guys. (Why did I know that
THIS thread was gonna turn out to be a ton of fun (said the pot to the
kettle))
Here's how it works. If you have a AP out there it can have a MAX output of
4 watts. 36dB. That holds true for 900, 2.4 and 5.8 bands. I
What about using external antennas? Doesn't that require FCC
certification? I agree with everything you have said below with the
exception of use of external antennas and amplifiers of course. I
thought you needed a FCC system certification for systems made up of a
radio and external pigtails,
Marlon,
This is a VERY well written policy that works well. Since it is
automated it also P***ES off subscribers. My father-in-law uses Hughes.
He bought an electronic copy of Adobe Photoshop. The version he
purchased was a 3CD-ROM set. He got through 1 CD rom and POOF he was on
dialup speeds
N White wrote, On 12/28/2006 11:30 PM:
Nick. Is. A. God. (and has EXCELLENT reading comprehension!)
Correction. It's late, I'm tired, and have had too much wine. I meant
that the TRCPQ is Atheros based, not TRCPE. This is from a Tranzeo list:
The CPE90 is Marve
This looks like it's well written and makes a ton of sense to me.
http://go.gethughesnet.com/HUGHES/Rooms/DisplayPages/LayoutInitial?pageid=fairaccess&Container=com.webridge.entity.Entity[OID[BD8BE0839F414B4FB7CDDCA10EFA5369]]
Anyone else implementing a program like this?
Any suggested specific
I worked for a manufacturer that certified product with the FCC. The legality
issue for FCC type acceptance can be argued in certain circumstances. Truth
is, we didn't re-apply for FCC type acceptance every time we changed a resistor
value or made some board change or modified the software. I
Patrick,
We sell kits of the required components, no different than many
others. Many people have had had our components certified for FCC and
CE use since they do a volume business of assembled systems. In order
to get FCC and CE approvals you must submit a complete system, as you
are well awa
I figured you would probably use them all before the nuts would arrive...
The UM's and UML's needed to be re-tooled due to the fact that after so many
parts, tooling needs to be replaced. We went with the stamped bases due to
the fact that the overall consistency is better on the parts and are as
I think Patrick needs to build Lonnie a box. Star OS software / Alvarion
radio. Look out!
:-)
Scriv
Patrick Leary wrote:
Lonnie, you are just doing what I wish I were smart enough to do --
write code people are willing to pay for. Software is always better than
hardware: you avoid FCC hassles
But with that bit of verbal fluff, they can already do that. They can offer
DSL, if they enable all of their switches. With very little investment they
can put DSLAMs a little farther out if need be. Of course they can offer
Satellite, always have been able to. I would be further curious to see if
I think WISPs should propose that ATT/BellSouth be allowed to merge only if
they agree NOT to deploy wireless and NOT to rural areas :-)
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA Gen
Which basically means WISPS have no choice but to protest and fight the
merger. ATT/BellSouth Basic declared war on all competition with that
statement.
I was OK with it, when they had the option to leave less desirable business
to third parties. But obligating themselves to have all consumer
And there is no enforceable action that may or not take place if these
voluntary commitments are not met, i.e., penalties and or fines after the
merger is completed. Same smoke and mirrors BS from past mergers.
Frank Muto
Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA
http://gigabytem
Lonnie,
Patrick has a valid point. Truthfully, its getting close to that time that
there isn't a reason not to get certified.
The 533 Gateworks boards, atheros chipset cards, are getting to be pretty
standard products, with consistent availabilty, that meet just about any
need.
Thats much diff
keyword..."offer"...
buzzword..."Wi-max"...
aka fluff...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 10:09 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] at&t condition - broadband
By December 31, 2007, AT&T/Bel
By December 31, 2007, AT&T/BellSouth will offer broadband Internet
access service
(i.e., Internet access service at speeds in excess of 200 kbps in at
least one direction) to 100
percent of the residential living units in the AT&TBellSouth in-region
territory. 2 To meet this
commitment, AT&T/Bel
Yes, but
All I want is a better radio.
The Dream is... Wimax is interoperabilty certified to a standard.
The Reality is... Who can get me a better radio sooner.
(See previous Post)
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From:
Patrick,
I do not challenge Alvarion's top role in Licensed WiMax.
I recognize it, as does most of the world.
But the truth is... Some companies have publically announced that they plan
to deliver a 5.8Ghz unlicensed product (as their primary focus), and others
have announced that they are NOT
Interesting thing is Mikrotik is seeing the same problem on 3.0beta4.
They say it'll be corrected when beta 5 is released. No date on t
that yet
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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:53 PM
Patrick,
what exactly is this "illegal hardware" you're referring to ?
Can't be tranzeo
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Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 1:19 AM
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Ryan,
YES & YES!
I personally run about 30 MikroTik APs (Proxim, Trango and a few Tranzeo's)
and have been using Tranzeo CPE's exclusively for the last few years. It
works great.
I also know that Matt Larsen uses Tranzeo CPE exclusively (for years) and
he is a 100% "dyed in the wool" StarOS
http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf
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When we made those decisions in 1999 we did not find Alvarion or Motorola.
You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees.
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Patrick Leary wrote:
Respectfully Carl and while I generally agree on use of standard
lets look at the VHF system, which radio would you buy??
Or is it which proprietary system would you deploy? Or is it where can I
lease/rent/buy "crystals" to put in my radio?
Black and white, I am the customer beholden unto to my supplier, long
may they live.
You have a go
Patrick,
Pardon my ignorance...I'm not an RF guy...but what do you mean by the
"problem of the .16 MAC in UL bands?"
Jeff
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Su
When a market knows it must contend with fraudulent product AND that a
good percentage of that market will support the fraud, what's the
decision you think vendors will make when it comes to prioritizing
investments in this business? Licensed or unlicensed? WISPs or a market
segment that buys only
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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:51 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...
> Right guys, I accept all that may be true but even in the DSL world,
> customers provide th
Well I wish some Qwest customers would be as angry as you are and call me..
Ah, maybe not, I don't want angry customers!
:)
Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
That router, sitting about 12 inches from my monitor, is one of the most
failure prone, troublesome, annoying and horribly underperforming piles o
That router, sitting about 12 inches from my monitor, is one of the most
failure prone, troublesome, annoying and horribly underperforming piles of
JUNK I have ever laid eyes upon.
Yeah, my HOUSE is not on my own wireless network... And at the end of a day
with that router locking up more than a
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