Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog indexes tab - which Index Types are guilty?

2003-07-17 Thread Andreas Jung
--On Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2003 12:29 Uhr +0100 Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The problem is caused by calling len() on the indexes btrees. Instead a counter implemented btree.Length should be used in the future. Which Index types are currently guilty of this? I think all except ZCTex

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog Indexes tab crawls...

2003-07-17 Thread Andreas Jung
--On Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2003 18:22 Uhr -0400 Casey Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually I regard the current behavior as a feature. Using a stopwatch and a slide-rule I can estimate to within 100 objects, how many values are indexed in a catalog by measuring the time it takes to draw

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog Indexes tab crawls...

2003-07-18 Thread Andreas Jung
--On Freitag, 18. Juli 2003 13:52 Uhr +0100 Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dieter Maurer wrote: I suggest to change the title to "# index terms" and revert for the indexes to the old behaviour. If that'll make it quicker, cool :-) I am usually not interested in the number of index ter

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog Indexes tab crawls...

2003-07-18 Thread Andreas Jung
--On Freitag, 18. Juli 2003 13:53 Uhr +0100 Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anthony Baxter wrote: if there's no counter present: create one, do a count of the docs, initialise the counter display counter Sounds good, what needs to happen to make this happen? Since this is a bug fix

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Release schedule and deprecation decisions

2006-02-05 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 5. Februar 2006 12:11:08 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A while ago, we had some discussion on when to make releases and how long to support deprecated features. The discussion has died down so I'll summarize what I think the conclusions were: - We'll move releases up one

Re: [Zope-dev] Introspector package in zope 2.9

2006-02-12 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 10. Februar 2006 18:06:53 +0100 Jean-François Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I can't find the Introspector package in zope.app in 2.9 (Zope shipped with Zope-2.9.0.tgz) but can find it on svn. Forgot something ? Can you help? Thanks! This will be fixed in 2.9.1. -aj pgpq

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 schedule

2006-02-19 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 23. Januar 2006 21:37:10 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am plan to release Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 in the middle of February (around Feb, 15th). Unfortunately I am currently too busy to do any releases right now. There are also some bug reports pending that sho

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 schedule

2006-02-21 Thread Andreas Jung
done --On 21. Februar 2006 08:00:47 +0100 robert rottermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On 23. Januar 2006 21:37:10 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am plan to release Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 in the middle of February (around Feb, 15th). U

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 schedule

2006-02-24 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 23. Januar 2006 21:37:10 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am plan to release Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 in the middle of February (around Feb, 15th). Unfortunately I am currently too busy to do any releases right now. There are also some bug reports pending that sho

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Two visions

2006-02-27 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 27. Februar 2006 21:57:46 -0500 Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 27 February 2006 10:37, Jim Fulton wrote: 1) Our current vision (AFAIK) is that Zope 3 will eventually    replace Zope 2 2) In an alternate vision, Zope 2 evolves to Zope 5. As you probably know alr

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Two visions

2006-02-28 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 28. Februar 2006 16:06:55 +0100 Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think focusing on one app server and a dedicated set of libraries would be a good alternative to two concurring app servers. +1 -aj pgpe9Th17c7O9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Zope-dev] ZClass Replacement Volunteer

2006-02-28 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 28. Februar 2006 10:31:04 -1000 Christopher Lozinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am considering volunteering to rewrite ZClasses. Who do I speak to? You can basically start this as your own project. Starting Zope 2.10 are officially deprecated. Any new development for Zope 2 and 3

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/Traversable.py using startswith()

2006-02-28 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 28. Februar 2006 21:41:24 +0100 Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: -if name[0] == '_': +if name.startswith('_'): Just a question: Is this only a matter of stylistic changes, or is there some, like, speedup invol

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.9 releases for Windows?

2006-03-02 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 2. März 2006 11:42:09 +0100 Wolfgang Strobl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In case your file is to be taken as the Zope-2.9.1 windows release i'd need it at the Zope-2.9.1 release folder and not at your member folder. Sure. I've removed it from my member folder. I think one needs to be M

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.7, Zope 2.9.2 schedule

2006-03-12 Thread Andreas Jung
I plan to release the next Zope versions around March 28. The release will basically contain newer Five versions. -aj pgpH0qawTOb9h.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-d

[Zope-dev] [svn.zope.org] How to change the From: address for checkin notifications

2006-03-13 Thread Andreas Jung
Due to some changes in my email configuration I would like to use another email address for checkin notifications email other than the current one. Is there a way to configure this on my own or do I have to beg before the svn admistrator? Thanks, Andreas pgpxckMy3h2Un.pgp Description: PGP signat

[Zope-dev] App.Product - distribution related code?

2006-03-14 Thread Andreas Jung
lib/python/App/Product.py contains code that deals *somehow* with "distributions" (whatever this means). Does any one know what this code is doing?...anyway this code uses the Python rotor module which was removed in Python 2.4. This code is a clear candidate to be kicked... objections? -aj pgpX

Re: [Zope-dev] App.Product - distribution related code?

2006-03-14 Thread Andreas Jung
It seems to be ZClasses relatedso it can go :-) --On 14. März 2006 15:40:55 -0500 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not entirely sure what this code is. But I've never used it or seen anyone else use it. I suspect it can go. - C On Mar 14, 2006, at 3:14

Re: [Zope-dev] App.Product - distribution related code?

2006-03-15 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 14. März 2006 21:14:33 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: lib/python/App/Product.py contains code that deals *somehow* with "distributions" (whatever this means). Does any one know what this code is doing?...anyway this code uses the Python rotor module whic

[Zope-dev] Upcoming Zope 2.X releases

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
As announced earlier I plan to release Zope 2.8.7 and 2.9.2 by next Monday...so as always: any pending fixes should be commited until Monday. Andreas pgpnNv3KkZAp4.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail

[Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
Zope supports the export of content either through Python pickles (.zexp) or as XML. Unfortunatly the XML export/import has several problems: - the generated XML is pretty much too low-level to use it e.g. for migration issues - it was broken multiple times in the past, it still has problems

Re: XML export/import is cool! (Was Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?)

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 24. März 2006 11:07:06 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: Zope supports the export of content either through Python pickles (.zexp) or as XML. Unfortunatly the XML export/import has several problems: - the generated XML is pretty much too low-level

Re: [Zope-dev] IMO ZClasses should stay

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
? Your time and our time is very much limited. We should spend this time on useful Zope projects and not in supporting ancient concepts that don't help the majority of the Zope developers. Andreas ------- - Andreas Jung

Re: [Zope-dev] IMO ZClasses should stay

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 24. März 2006 11:25:53 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On the subject of deprecation, for the record, I think removing ZClasses is a mistake. They have legitimate uses. They have major flaws too. It would help if we would more clearly document their limitations and pitfall

Re: [Zope-dev] IMO ZClasses should stay

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
y the largest problem in the Zope 2 world right now. I do also prefer to spend my time on more interesting projects in the Zope world than digging through ancient, scary code. Andreas ------- - Andreas JungZOPY

Re: XML export/import is cool! (Was Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?)

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 24. März 2006 18:09:36 +0100 Yoshinori Okuji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 24 March 2006 17:33, Andreas Jung wrote: >> - it has no maintainer, nobody wants to touch it without gloves > > Is that any more true than for lots of other things? Right, but for dupli

Re: [Zope-dev] I agree that ZClasses should stay. I will volunteer

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 24. März 2006 10:00:46 -0800 Christopher Lozinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am interested in maintaining them, documenting them, and upgrading them. Cool. I think a good starting point would be to update I have been t

Re: [Zope-dev] Wishlist Item

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
-aj --- - Andreas JungZOPYX Ltd. & Co KG- - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.zopyx.com, www

Re: [Zope-dev] IMO ZClasses should stay

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
te ZClasses as an implementation solution to co-workers. ZClasses will stay for the time being but they should be regarded as a bad solution for new projects. -aj --- - Andreas JungZOPYX L

Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
essary). Andreas --- - Andreas JungZOPYX Ltd. & Co KG- - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.zopyx.com, ww

Re: XML export/import is cool! (Was Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?)

2006-03-25 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 24. März 2006 11:07:06 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - it was broken multiple times in the past, it still has problems How so? The import functionality seem to be broken since at least Zope 2.7. I created a DTML method exported it and _tried_ to reimport it. Zope 2.7

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Wishlist Item

2006-03-25 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 25. März 2006 13:14:06 -0500 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FileSystemSite This is a repackaging of the CMF's FileSystem Directory Views such that it is independent of the CMF. CMF or not - if one need such a functionality one can download CMF or a related product. If such

Re: XML export/import is cool! (Was Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?)

2006-03-26 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 25. März 2006 21:40:48 +0100 Yoshinori Okuji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday 25 March 2006 15:56, Andreas Jung wrote: Zope 2.7 throws a BadPickleGet, 12 exception, Zope 2.8 throws BadPickleGet, 13 and Zope 2.9 raises the described UnicodeDecodeError. I don't expe

Re: XML export/import is cool! (Was Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?)

2006-03-26 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 26. März 2006 09:58:07 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the patch (commited for Zope 2.8, 2.9. trunk). This solves at least the import problems on my side. Unfortunately there are no tests for export/import so fixing issues is like flying blindfolded. Al

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/branches/2.9/lib/python/ update to latest revision of ZODB 3.6 for upcoming release

2006-03-26 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 26. März 2006 14:31:25 -0500 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Log message for revision 66185: update to latest revision of ZODB 3.6 for upcoming release Should'nt we be tagging a ZODB release for

[Zope-dev] [Zope2.8.7] with Five 1.0 or Five 1.2

2006-03-26 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi, Zope 2.8 ships/shipped with Five 1.0 which is very old and no longer actively maintained. Most ppl doing currently development with Zope 2.8 are using Five 1.2. Should we upgrade the Five version in Zope 2.8 to Five 1.2 to make their lives a bit easier? There is possibly a compatiblity prob

Re: [Zope-dev] Patch that makes the 'MS-Author-Via' header configurable in zope.conf

2006-03-27 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 27. März 2006 16:16:11 +0200 Patrick Decat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, two weeks ago, I submitted a patch against Zope-2.9.1 that makes the 'MS-Author-Via' header configurable in zope.conf ( http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1441 ) but I did not hear a single comment about it, s

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope2.8.7] with Five 1.0 or Five 1.2

2006-03-28 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 28. März 2006 10:55:29 -0500 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - -1. This is explicitly the kind of change which our branch policy is supposed to disallow: we have no way of knowing what kind of damage we will be inflicting on people's applications if we replace the version of Fi

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Test Summaries 2006-04-05

2006-04-06 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 6. April 2006 12:06:25 -0400 Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:45:11AM +0200, Stefan H. Holek wrote: The VHM tests in Zope 2.9 and trunk broke last night: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-April/004648.html http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zop

Re: [Zope-dev] bug in trunk ZopePageTemplate.py?

2006-04-07 Thread Andreas Jung
some time. -aj ------- - Andreas JungZOPYX Ltd. & Co KG- - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.zopyx.com, www.zopyx.de - --- pgpdhrMIJiGfs.

Re: [Zope-dev] z3 server+publication refactor for z2

2006-04-13 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 13. April 2006 11:46:20 +0200 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Sidnei has been working on the Zope 2 publication-refactor branch where he's allowed the use of the Zope 3 Twisted-based server, and of a Zope 3 based publication process. I'd like to see this merge branche

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: z3 server+publication refactor for z2

2006-04-13 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 13. April 2006 15:39:06 +0200 Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is the "small" solution in which we provide a WSGI-capable frontend to the ZPublisher. The "big" solution would be to replace ZPublisher with zope.publisher and a custom Zope2-oriented publication + ap

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: z3 server+publication refactor for z2

2006-04-13 Thread Andreas Jung
From: Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sidnei da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: List Zope-dev Subject: Re: z3 server+publication refactor fo

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: z3 server+publication refactor for z2

2006-04-13 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 13. April 2006 15:58:44 +0200 Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think the "big" solution would take a considerable effort. It's less than three weeks before feature freeze. That is very little time even for the "small" solution. Big or small? Would this be an option

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: z3 server+publication refactor for z2

2006-04-13 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 13. April 2006 11:38:38 -0400 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florent Guillaume wrote: Hi, Sidnei has been working on the Zope 2 publication-refactor branch where he's allowed the use of the Zope 3 Twisted-based server, and of a

[Zope-dev] cvs.zope.org/Products -> svn.zope.org?

2006-04-17 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi, almost all big Zope projects have changed to Subversion fortunately. Using svn:externals is a nice way to build bundles and helps a lot deploying software. However projects still have some dependencies from cvs.zope.org some older material (possibly not updated material). So the current sol

Re: [Zope-dev] cvs.zope.org/Products -> svn.zope.org?

2006-04-17 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 17. April 2006 16:25:10 +0200 Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wouldn't it make sense to migrate the complete Products hierarchy from cvs.zope.org to svn.zope.org? - -1 on migrating everything. IMHO it would be better to identify those dependencies and selectively migrate pro

Re: [Zope-dev] Traversal issue which affects Five

2006-04-18 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 18. April 2006 18:52:10 +0200 Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alec Mitchell wrote at 2006-4-17 14:53 -0700: ... Yes, it does sound like a better solution. However, the issue I see with it is that it is essentially adding new functionality, rather than fixing a problem with th

Re: [Zope-dev] Traversal issue which affects Five

2006-04-19 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 19. April 2006 18:38:05 +0200 Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thus, even a strict release manager might accept it. Am I strict? :-) Do you accept it? ;-) As release manager I don't have to dig into every problem. Patches + tests are of course accepted if there is some co

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.9.3 release

2006-04-19 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 19. April 2006 15:30:44 -0400 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll note that I have a client who can't move forward from 2.9.1 to 2.9.3 because the changes to traversal semantics in that release break every view lookup in the application (which was originally built on 2.8.x, and w

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.9.3 release

2006-04-19 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 19. April 2006 15:55:44 -0400 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The discussion on the list of the "fix" didn't take into account all the usage patterns. I would vote to delay a release until we find a way to restore the broken functionality. Could we perhaps provide an alternate

Re: [Zope-dev] Traversal issue which affects Five

2006-04-21 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 20. April 2006 20:29:30 +0200 Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Up to you to decide whether we may break the general rule ("no new features in micro releases") for features of this kind. We've always included minor features that aren't obviously critical micro release. The gene

Re: [Zope-dev] Traversal issue which affects Five

2006-04-21 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 21. April 2006 07:09:45 -0400 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In general, I think that new features in bug-fix releases are a bad idea. Of course, the line between bug-fix and feature is not always crisp. Something that is really a new feature should wait for a feature release. Su

Re: [Zope-dev] Trunk seems broken

2006-04-21 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 21. April 2006 17:25:46 +0200 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: outer = self.engine.getValue('macroname') and self.engine is a Products.PageTemplates.TALES.Context instance In Zope2, as far as I can see, neither engines or contexts has a getValue method. Should we rea

Re: [Zope-dev] Trunk seems broken

2006-04-21 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 21. April 2006 18:08:38 +0200 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/21/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My ajung-final-zpt-integration branch contains a version that does no longer require the Zope 2 TALES implementation (but uses the Zope 3 codebase

[Zope-dev] Zope 3 ZPT integration for Zope 2.10 needs more work

2006-04-22 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi, as you might know I have been working on the integration of the Zope 3 ZPT implementation for Zope 2.10. Unfortunately I won't have enough time to finish my work (due to customer projects). What's the current state? - all integration work done so far is on the "/ajung-final-zpt-integratio

Re: [Zope-dev] favicon.ico for 2.10?

2006-04-24 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 24. April 2006 11:59:40 +0200 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I find all these errors that Zope can't find a favicon.ico pretty annoying. Can we put one into 2.10s root by default, or is that for some reason a bad idea? No objections. -aj -- ZOPYX Ltd. & Co. KG - Charlot

Re: [Zope-dev] Branches finished for merging.

2006-04-26 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 26. April 2006 19:14:43 +0200 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1. easter-sprint_traversal-refactor I also recommend that we deprecate both __bobo_traverse__ and __browser_default__, but perhaps with a longer derecation period that usual, since this are very basic techniques u

Re: [Zope-dev] Branches finished for merging.

2006-04-26 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 27. April 2006 00:17:18 +0200 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/26/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What are the possible risks of those changes? What is the goal of this branch? Integration as an optional feature or replacement of ZPublisher/ZS

Re: [Zope-dev] Branches finished for merging.

2006-04-27 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 27. April 2006 10:33:19 +0200 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/27/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Getting rid of ZServer is a fine goal but as long as Twisted is much slower (from what I've heard) ZServer has to stay (ZServer is not subject

Re: [Zope-dev] Reminder: Feature Freeze May 1

2006-04-27 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 21. April 2006 08:55:26 -0400 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Don't forget that the feature freeze for the June release is May 1! That is only 10 days away! New features should be check in in a *stable* form by then. While we won't necessarily do a beta release then, anything che

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.10: Remaining tasks

2006-05-01 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 1. Mai 2006 18:46:07 +0200 Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: The feature freeze date for the June release is only days away. It was planned to be May 1st, but due to lots of pending branches, we might let it slip for a *couple* of days (not more!

[Zope-dev] Twisted in Zope 2.10 ..some issues

2006-05-03 Thread Andreas Jung
I tried to get Zope 2.10 working with Twisted however I ran into some issues: After installing Twisted 2.1.0, Zope fails to start (also with Twisted 2.2.0)...anything I am misssing? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/sandboxes/Zope/Zope: bin/runzope Traceback (most recent call last): File "/develop/sandbox

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.9.3 release

2006-05-09 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi, I plan to release Zope 2.9.3 by this weekend. The release contains some important fixes and a Five update. Any objections? Andreas pgpAAMuXg9UU5.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailm

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9.3 release

2006-05-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Mai 2006 17:32:06 -0700 Alec Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/9/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I plan to release Zope 2.9.3 by this weekend. The release contains some important fixes and a Five update. Any objections? Sounds good to me, any cha

Re: [Zope-dev] url with space "%20" on end fails

2006-05-12 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 12. Mai 2006 10:07:00 -0400 Erik Dahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have an object that has a space at the end of its id (I know this is bogus but I guess its a valid id). its url is: http://zenoss/zport/dmd/Devices/Power/UPS/devices/POB%202nd%20Floor% 20%20 Trying to navigate to this

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.7 release with ZODB 3.4.3?

2006-05-25 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi all, there is some demand in the community for 2.8.7. No problem at all. From what I've heard several ZODB bugs were fixed lately since the 3.4.2 release. I suggest to tag the current ZODB 3.4 branch as internal 3.4.3 release (I won't take over any responsibility for an official ZODB 3.4.3

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/branches/ajung-zpt-end-game/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/tests/test ZopePageTemplate.py A recent fix in the zope 3 traversing code now requires the ITraversable

2006-05-28 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 28. Mai 2006 22:06:27 -0400 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: These problems aren't blockers for a 2.10 beta, but they must be resolved before a final release. I agree that these issues should be fixed. But it is now time to get 2.10 beta 1 out of the door as soon as possible. We

[Zope-dev] 2.10 branch and trunk

2006-05-30 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi, I plan to create a branch for Zope 2.10 after 2.10beta 2 or short before the 2.10 final release. This means that the Zope trunk should only be used for bugfixes *only* until the branch is cut. So no new development and feature should happen on the trunk until then..Use your own branch unti

Re: [Zope-dev] 2.10 branch and trunk

2006-05-30 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 30. Mai 2006 10:17:08 +0200 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I plan to create a branch for Zope 2.10 after 2.10beta 2 or short before the 2.10 final release. This means that the Zope trunk should only be used for bugfixes *only* until the branch is cut. So no new devel

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: 2.10 branch and trunk

2006-05-30 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 30. Mai 2006 19:25:06 +0200 yuppie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! Andreas Jung wrote: --On 30. Mai 2006 10:17:08 +0200 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I plan to create a branch for Zope 2.10 after 2.10beta 2 or short before the 2.10 final release. This means t

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: 2.10 branch and trunk

2006-05-30 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 30. Mai 2006 20:09:27 +0200 yuppie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You are arguing against a feature freeze policy for the trunk and I agree with you. But that is not what I propose. Often people don't *want* to check in new features for quite a while after the beta. And in that case I see th

[Zope-dev] Bugday for Zope 2.10?

2006-06-04 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi everyone, I propose to have a bugday before the next Zope 2.10 beta release. How about June, 15th? Andreas pgp21UOXll5PT.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev **

[Zope-dev] Unittests with different zope configuration?

2006-06-05 Thread Andreas Jung
Does anyone know how to write unittests that have to deal with different configurations in zope.conf? In my particular case I need write some tests for sequence.sort() that deal with the 'locale' configuration in zope.conf. So how do I setup a different configurations in a unit test? Andreas

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Unittests with different zope configuration?

2006-06-07 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 7. Juni 2006 08:50:41 -0230 Rocky Burt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2006-07-06 at 12:04 +0200, Stefan H. Holek wrote: I use this to set debug-mode off: # Switch off debug mode import App.config config = App.config.getConfiguration() config.debug_mode = 0 A

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Unittests with different zope configuration?

2006-06-07 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 7. Juni 2006 14:28:03 +0200 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stefan H. Holek wrote: I use this to set debug-mode off: # Switch off debug mode import App.config config = App.config.getConfiguration() config.debug_mode = 0 App.config.setConfiguration(config

Re: [Zope-dev] Non-Latin-1 properties

2006-06-08 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 8. Juni 2006 15:31:09 +0200 Yves Bastide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! Sorry to beat a dead horse: the ZMI doesn't allow using non-Latin-1 properties. huh? How about using the utext and ustring properties? -aj -- ZOPYX Ltd. & Co. KG - Charlottenstr. 37/1 - 72070 Tübingen - Germany

Re: [Zope-dev] Non-Latin-1 properties

2006-06-08 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 8. Juni 2006 15:40:59 +0200 Tino Wildenhain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung schrieb: --On 8. Juni 2006 15:31:09 +0200 Yves Bastide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! Sorry to beat a dead horse: the ZMI doesn't allow using non-Latin-1 properties. huh? Ho

[Zope-dev] R.I.P. zLOG

2006-06-08 Thread Andreas Jung
Just for the logs: zLOG has gone to developers heaven/hell. zLOG has been obsolete since Zope 2.9 and is now removed after as documented for Zope 2.11. Andreas pgp46MBiuOJ4I.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org h

[Zope-dev] [Reminder] Zope 2.10 Bugday on June 15th

2006-06-11 Thread Andreas Jung
Just to remind you all :-) -- The next Zope bugday will be held on June, 15th 2006 on the IRC channel #zope-dev at irc.freenode.net. Join us and grab a bug from http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope to improve the quality of the upcoming Zope 2.10 release.

Re: [Zope-dev] Time-based releases a good idea?

2006-06-14 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 14. Juni 2006 07:32:42 +0100 Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Florent Guillaume wrote: Yes but the deprecation has been there for a while, and the third party product developers have been ignoring the warning. Their loss. And this is only for Zope 2.10 which I doubt these third

Re: [Zope-dev] Time-based releases a good idea?

2006-06-14 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 14. Juni 2006 10:28:08 +0200 Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For me, the fact that Zope 2.9.3 still emits deprecation warnings on a fresh install (zLOG...) is a pretty bad sign. I think this is a dead horse now. Some things were deprecated without actually converting all ins

Re: [Zope-dev] Time-based releases a good idea?

2006-06-14 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 14. Juni 2006 06:47:37 -0400 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Warning: This is gonna be ranty and will almost certainly contain foul language. ;-) You're allowed to do so :-) There was a message sent to the list about deprecat

Re: [Zope-dev] Time-based releases a good idea?

2006-06-14 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 14. Juni 2006 08:23:53 -0400 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The product I speak of above has 700 individual unit tests and still has bugs. Shrug. I expect some breakage, and the tests will catch most of them, and that's fine. But I also have maybe five or six open source

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Time-based releases a good idea?

2006-06-14 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 14. Juni 2006 10:40:05 -0400 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hmmm. Then I think someone needs to explain this: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/Zope2.10/CurrentStatus (Final release late June/early July 2006) You know that the project wikis were always vapourw

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Time-based releases a good idea?

2006-06-14 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 14. Juni 2006 10:59:09 -0400 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So... you're saying that 2.10 isn't going to be released until December 2006, then? huh? The wiki says June/July...we are just running a bit late with the beta releases because Philikon needed some time for the ZP

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Time-based releases a good idea?

2006-06-14 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 14. Juni 2006 11:24:45 -0400 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That would indeed make the deprecation period longer than 1 > year, which seems to have been the intent. This makes no sense to me. Let's start clean here. What interval of time is reasonable for the period

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2 bugday, today (the 15th)!

2006-06-15 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 15. Juni 2006 11:29:11 +0200 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Join #zope-dev on freenode.net and help make 2.10 the best Zope 2 ever! :) Unfortunately the email collector notification does not seem to work...anyone to slap zope.org? Andreas pgpp7hSAyzVwD.pgp Description: PG

[Zope-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?

2006-06-16 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 16. Juni 2006 09:12:36 +0100 Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Even numbered releases are "feature add" releases: 2.12.0 - "okay, lets start adding features" 2.12.1 - "whoops, fixed bug x" 2.12.2 - "added feature y" 2.12.3 - "whoops, fixed bug z" 2.12.0 - "added feature z" 2.14.1

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?

2006-06-18 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 18. Juni 2006 14:36:06 -0400 Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: However, Zope 2.8 is still available for stable download ... so we currently have 7 branches to watch out for. Yes, but in most cases a fix only affects only Zope 2 or Zope 3. So we are back to 3. -aj -- ZOPYX Lt

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?

2006-06-18 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 18. Juni 2006 14:35:48 -0400 Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 08:30:58PM +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: On 6/18/06, Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1, I'd like some way to easily know when a release is no longer > maintained. i.e., what's the X i

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?

2006-06-18 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 18. Juni 2006 14:46:27 -0400 Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On 18. Juni 2006 14:36:06 -0400 Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: However, Zope 2.8 is still available for stable download ... so we currently have 7 branches to w

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?

2006-06-19 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 19. Juni 2006 16:25:32 +0200 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I for one, is NOT interested in backporting fixed in Five trunk to both Five 1.0, 1.1, 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5, which is what are the current versions of Five if we say that Zope 2.8 and 2.7 should be still supported after

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Scrap zpkg for Zope2 releases

2006-06-22 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 22. Juni 2006 11:01:21 -0400 Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/22/06, Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I believe that the extra flexibility which zpkg is intended to provide (dependency-based subset distributions, primarily) would be better served by moving Zope to use egg

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Proposal: Scrap zpkg for Zope2 releases

2006-06-24 Thread Andreas Jung
Thanks a lot for your work! --On 24. Juni 2006 09:40:36 -0400 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Remaining TODOs: - I would like to have a few more folks try out working with the tarball, which I have uploaded to zope.org: http://www.zope.org/Members/tseaver/Zope-2.9.4-retire

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.9/lib/python/ Replace bulk of uses of 'zLOG' with equivalent Python 'logging' module usage.

2006-06-25 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 25. Juni 2006 16:32:04 +0200 "Stefan H. Holek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This, BTW, breaks CMF 1.5 on Zope 2.9. Not sure I/you should care though ;-) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/stefan/autotest/temp/python24-zope29-cmf15/Products/ CMFActionIcons/__init__.py", li

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.9/lib/python/ Replace bulk of uses of 'zLOG' with equivalent Python 'logging' module usage.

2006-06-25 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 25. Juni 2006 16:32:04 +0200 "Stefan H. Holek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This, BTW, breaks CMF 1.5 on Zope 2.9. Not sure I/you should care though ;-) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/stefan/autotest/temp/python24-zope29-cmf15/Products/ CMFActionIcons/__init__.py", li

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?

2006-06-26 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 26. Juni 2006 11:25:05 +0100 Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: It's dead from a maintenance point of view. If you still want to maintain it, be our guest. But you yourself said that maintaining too many branches is madness. My point is that we'

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.10/ OFS Image: Image and File now both support simple unicode objects for data (they function the same as strings for data).

2006-06-28 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 28. Juni 2006 13:56:58 +0200 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has this change been discussed? I don't agree with it. Unicode strings aren't byte strings. File and Image should only work with byte strings. Code dealing with them should always know and assume that they use str.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Re: [Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.10/ OFS Image: Image and File now both support simple unicode objects for data (they function the same as strings for data).

2006-06-28 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 28. Juni 2006 09:36:56 -0230 Rocky Burt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll still change the logic to do isinstance(data, str) rather than type('') == type(data) and I'll also add the explicit check for unicode and raise a ValueError if found, does this all sound ok? sounds good pgpDWJLUak

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