[CTRL] Johnny T
-Caveat Lector- From WND }}}Begin This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25746 Wednesday, December 19, 2001 The man without a country By Hal Lindsey © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com By now, everybody has seen the man dubbed Johnny Taliban by the press. John Walker Lindh is a 20-year-old convert to Islam who was captured fighting with the Taliban at the prison uprising at Mazar e Sharif. Walker, or Lindh (to eliminate confusion, we'll stick with Johnny Taliban), was a participant in the only battle in which an American died at the hands of the enemy. CIA agent Mike Spann was beaten, kicked, stabbed and ev en bitten to death, according to reports. This week's Big Controversy is centered around the question of what is the U.S. to do with Johnny Taliban? Personally, I don't find it controversial at all. I'll take you for a walk through my reasoning process. Some say that Johnny Taliban deserves mercy because he was just a brainwashed kid. Everybody deserves mercy, but mercy is an attribute of God, not government. Mike Spann deserved mercy, but he was bitten to death. Johnny Taliban deserves mercy as well so if convicted and sentenced to death, he won't face the same kind of death as did Mike Spann. As to the mitigating factor of his being brainwashed, that argument raises a number of issues. First and foremost, arguing brainwashing shoots a number of holes in the administration's doubletalk that alleges fundamenta l Islam was hijacked by Islamic fundamentalists. If being brainwashed by Islam can turn you into Johnny Taliban, what does that say about several million American Muslims? And if Johnny Taliban's crimes are mitigated by his being brainwashed, how can we prosecute the rest of al-Qaida? Each could argue the same defense. Unless we are prepared to argue that only Americans can be brainwashed. No one who is brainwashed voluntarily continues on the difficult path that Johnny Taliban did. He went to Yemen and learned Arabic so that he could delve deeper into the Koran. He went to Afghanistan to study with the Tal iban. He volunteered to join al-Qaida and went through their rugged terrorist training. These are not the actions of a brainwashed person, but rather of a dedicated Islamic fanatic. Johnny Taliban won't be able to play the Patti Hearst defense, either. She argued that, having been kidnapped, she was forced to participate in a bank robbery with her SLA captors. Johnny Taliban wasn't kidnapped, and he wasn't forced to participate. His opportunity to make that defense work came and went when he was interrogated by Mike Spann hours before Agent Spann was killed. Spann would ask a question, and the American Taliban would stare at the floor. When the i nterview ended, Spann didn't even know what language Walker spoke, let alone the fact he was an American citizen. That put to rest any defense that Johnny Taliban was participating in a battle against the United States ag ainst his will. Walker's defenders say he should be afforded legal counsel as an American citizen while in military custody. This is a thorny question. The Constitution is a weighty document. But Johnny Taliban was taken in Afghanistan, while he was actively fighting against the Constitution as part of a foreign military organization. He is a prisoner of war. Information gleaned from a prisoner of war is not evidence, it is military intelligence. It is impossible to obtain useful intelligence, especially classified material, with a lawyer standing by. Did Walker give up his ri ghts as an American? Fighting for a foreign power is a crime for which one can be stripped of citizenship. As I said, it is a thorny question. What is not in doubt are Johnny Taliban's own views. According to Newsweek, Walker admits not only to being a member of the Taliban, but also a member of al-Qaida. He says he trained in bin Laden's terror camps and even m et the Shayk himself. And most convicting of all, he expressed his support for the 9-11 attacks. The government has a number of options. The White House has already ruled out a military tribunal for Walker granting him an automatic benefit of his nativity. Johnny Taliban could, however, be tried for treason, sediti on or as a foreign belligerent. All three of these charges carry the death penalty. American author Edward Everett Hale wrote a fictional account of a man who was sentenced to exile by an American court after having told the judge he wished he'd never heard the name of the United States. He was sentenced to live out his life aboard ship. The name of the United States was never to be spoken in his presence. The novel quoted Sir Walter Scott: Breathes there the man with soul so dead, Who never to himself hath said, This is my own, my native land! Whose heart hath ne'er within him burn'd, As home
[CTRL] Two Wise Guys
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,620913,00.html }}}Begin Two wise men Bill Clinton and Tony Blair are now singing from the same song sheet. And absolutely nobody is listening Jonathan Freedland Wednesday December 19, 2001 The Guardian They once ruled the world like two masters of the universe. During the closing years of the 20th century, they were comrades on a shared, global mission: Bill and Tony's excellent adventure. Today Bill Clinton and Tony Blair - the men who transformed their parties and won election and re-election as a result - are still political soulmates. Scan the text of the former president's Dimbleby lecture shown on BBC TV, or any of the variations on that theme Clinton delivered at venues around Britain last week, and they read like translations into American of Blair 's October speech to the Labour party conference in Brighton. Like Blair, Clinton calls for a war on global poverty, with the rich countries facing up to their responsibilities to the poor. Like Blair, he wants the benefi ts of globalisation shared around. Like Blair, he believes the world's problems can be solved, as long as we have the will. The two even use the same phrase to describe us: we are all the children of Abraham. And the pair have one final thing in common: no one is listening to either of them. Clinton is the more remarkable bearer of the message . He is the only American of stature who has dared stray into such ultra-sensitive territory - seeking to identify the underlying causes of the terror that struck his country on September 11. For many in the US this is dangerous ground, with any attempt at explanation risking condemnation as justification. Most have steered clear. But, always the master politician, Clinton knows how to navigate such difficult terrain. First in his lectures he sets out his support for his successor's fight against al-Qaida, wishing it well and assuming its eventual success. Then he swiftly moves on to what will have to be done next: We're gonn a win this fight - then what? And it's here that Clinton unveils his deceptively progressive message. Packaged in hoarse-throated, folksy homilies and plain, colloquial language, it can easily float past the British ear: we tend to expect harder nouns and more -isms in our radical politics. But progressive it is. Clinton is calling for a collective offensive by the rich world on poverty, Aids and the environment. He wants nations like his own to pay up for schools, healthcare and, as he told the Jewish National Fund in London last week, the little, biddy kids who never get to drink a clean glass of water. For him, as it was for Blair, this is not just do-gooding for do-gooding's sake: it is a matter of international security. Global warming is worth defeating because, if we don't defeat it, we will lose land to flooding, there will be millions of food refugees created... more terror. Being Clinton, he finds fresh, accessible ways to make the case. So Aids should be conquered because, if it isn't, the future will look like a Mad Max movie: A whole lot of young people around the world will say, 'Well, I'm HIV positive, I've got a year or two to live, why shouldn't I go out and shoot up a bunch of other people?' (Can't quite hear Blair saying that.) But the core argument is that used by left liberals since September 1 1: We in the wealthy countries have to spread the benefits of the 21st century, and reduce the risks, so we can make more partners and fewer terrorists in the future. But Clinton does not leave it there. He pushes his audiences further, asking them to look beyond the little boxes of their own identity or ethnicity, and to appreciate the variety and difference that makes the human rac e such a joy. Think about how we all organise our lives in little boxes - man, woman; British, American; Muslim, Christian, Jew; Tory, Labour; New Labour, Old Labour; but somewhere along the way, we finally come to under stand that our life is more than all these boxes we're in. And that if we can't reach beyond that, we'll never have a fuller life. It is a powerful idea, simply expressed - and it takes Bill Clinton into a new, unfamiliar realm. These are less the words of a politician than a would-be moral leader: that's how high he is reaching. This elevated qualit y gives the current Clinton speech its stirring strength. But it also points to his greatest weakness. He holds no office and therefore has no immediate power. That is the brute truth of politics and Clinton knows it. He can give a great speech, but there is no force behind his words: no army to despatch, no vast bureaucracy to deploy. And so there is a wistful cast to the former president's eye. He misses his job. As one ex-aide sighs, He's lost. But perhaps the big man also regrets all the big, global moves that he didn't make when he had the chance. Still, Clinton's problem is more than a
[CTRL] Experiment
-Caveat Lector- Sometimes I think this is all an experiment. No one exists except my consciousness. Not the health care 'professionals' that abuse my mind and take my money, not the drug abusers on the corner, not the government G.W. Bush or the CIA. They are all just mental constructs to keep my consciousness imprisoned and preoccupied. Or maybe I am just dreaming. Or both. That is all that makes sense. Pull an end-around game using another dimension. How is that to be accomplished? (The secret is, Spirit. ;-) Steve In little more than a year we have gone from enjoying peace and the most prosperous economy in our history, to a nation plunged into war, recession and fear. This is a nation being transformed before our very eyes. http://www.truthout.com/12.17C.Saudi.Friends.htm Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IRS Agent Goes Berserk, Assaults Citizen, by Pat Shannan
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:25:41 -0800 From: Deon Masker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ddDeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Conspiracy-Theory] Fw: [Renegades_Coalition] IRS Agent Goes Berserk, Assaults Citizen, by Pat Shannan Disclaimer: ~~For entertainment or educational purposes only~~ [Title 17 U.S.C. section 107] Should this email has reached you in error, please return it with removePatriotList in the subject line or just click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=removePatriot/88L - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:42 AM Subject: IRS Agent Goes Berserk, Assaults Citizen, by Pat Shannan From the news Desk at YACE Freedom 91.9 FM Help spread the news! Long Live the Republic, Death to the new world order! IRS Agent Goes Berserk, Assaults Citizen Local Cops, Sheriff Refuse to Prosecute http://www.4bypass.com/feature.htm by Pat Shannan Dec. 2001 A sign spotted recently over the door of one IRS office says: Seizure Fever Catch It! Word has it that the IRS agent with the best seizure rate for the week is rewarded with a brief respite and other job perks. Apparently the pressure to hit his weekly plunder bonus was more than one revenuer could stand, and when he was asked to show the law justifying his actions, he blew a head gasket. The Oct. 2 incident occurred when Wiley Davis, an IRS Team Manager from Colorado, became agitated with Las Vegas resident Ken Nicholson, 37, during a hearing to discuss an IRS lien against some property owned by Nicholson's friend, Keith Milbourn. Davis, 45, had been brought in from Denver specifically for the Milbourn case. The Las Vegas Tribune first reported the altercation as arising from a tax dispute involving an IRS lien against some property belonging to Ken Nicholson. This was inaccurate. Nicholson had gone along as counsel for his friends, Keith and Shawna Milbourn, and as a witness to the proceedings. It was Milbourn's case that was in dispute. They had also taken along court reporter Beatrice Conner, who caught the whole incident on audiotape. Nicholson had Power of Attorney to speak for Milbourn, 32. Davis was assisted by a female agent. Throughout the hearing, the two men made it clear that they were not going to take Davis' word for anything and would need actual documentation to prove the IRS' stand. Finally, Nicholson said that they would be willing to pay whatever the IRS claimed Milbourn owed if Davis could: 1) Produce a Notice and Demand for the tax; and 2) Give a Code Section which made Milbourn liable. Nicholson said, and witnesses as well as the tape recording concur, that Davis did not attempt to produce that evidence but instead became visibly angry, lost his self-control and attacked Nicholson. Offense is the Best Defense Out of nowhere, said Nicholson, he jumped up out of his chair and came around the table, grabbed my chair, and began bouncing it up and down. He shoved it forward and pushed me toward the table. [In the process,] my legs came apart and were straddling the arm of the chair. With three or four quick jerks, he yanked the arm of the chair upward and into my groin. Then he grabbed me and began to physically evict me from the room. Security officers came in and stopped the melee at the Oakley Boulevard office of the IRS in Las Vegas. Court stenographer Beatrice Conner was shocked speechless when Nicholson was knocked to the floor. It was totally without provocation, she said. He (Davis) was so angry and violent that if he had had a gun, he would have pulled it out! Keith Milbourn, who witnessed the whole meeting and scuffle, gave more details: By the time we called the police there were about ten people in the hallway including other agents, the witnesses and security guards, Milbourn told us, adding that the other IRS agent who was in the room, Renee Swells, was surprised and shocked by Davis' action. Swells was unavailable for comment. Milbourn and Nicholson had called 911 and the cops arrived in five minutes all gung-ho and ready to arrest Ken. However, when they heard the tape played back, they all fell silent, not knowing what to do. So the officers did nothing. No arrest was made. Both men said they tried to report the incident to the U.S. attorney's office, as well as the FBI, but both Justice Department entities declined to take their report. The same proved to be true at the county level with Sheriff Jerry Keller. I know that if I would have assaulted the IRS agent, I would be sitting in jail right now, Nicholson said. But because the IRS agent is the one who assaulted me, Metro [Las Vegas Police] only took a statement and let him go. Hidden Ball Trick When the Metro police came out, Nicholson gave a voluntary statement backed up by his witnesses and the tape recording. He was told that he would have to
[CTRL] [Spy News] FW: The War Profiteers: How are Weapons Manufacturers Faring in t he War?
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:26:06 -0500 From: Michael Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Spy News] FW: The War Profiteers: How are Weapons Manufacturers Faring in t he War? companies in the war.doc THE WAR PROFITEERS: HOW ARE WEAPONS MANUFACTURERS FARING IN THE WAR? Frida Berrigan, Research Associate, World Policy Institute December 17, 2001 Afghanistan hasn't had a direct impact on sales yet. Peter Simmons, Spokesman for Lockheed Martin's Marietta, Georgia plane (Emphasis added) Companies like General Electric and IBM, which cashed in on the tragedy of September 11th through tax breaks in the Economic Stimulus Bill, have drawn the ire of fiscal conservatives and progressive corporate watchdogs alike. But scant attention has been paid to the biggest war profiteers, the weapons manufacturers and the Pentagon. Congress is debating a Bush administration defense budget of $343.2 billion, an increase of $32.6 billion over last year. This increase would mean that military spending would account for more than half of all discretionary spending (money that Congress must allocate each year). This is good news to the weapons industry and while pink slips and hiring freezes are spreading like an epidemic from sector to sector, the top weapons manufacturers are awaiting new orders, holding job fairs, planning Initial Public Offerings, raising new capital and gaining new attention on the stock market. As Loren Thompson, a defense analyst with the Lexington Institute, remarked the whole mind set of military spending changed on Sept. 11. The most fundamental thing about defense spending is that threats drive defense spending. It's now going to be easier to fund almost anything. So, what better time to be Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman or even the beleaguered Boeing? The war in Afghanistan is an unequivocal success- despite friendly fire incidents, bombing accidents, mounting civilian casualties and the recent crash of a $280 million B-1 bomber- and the Bush administration is already listing new countries targeted for military action, with Somalia, Yemen and Iraq topping the list. It is a good time to be in the war business. For a long time-- [the defense industry] just didn't seem like a sexy area that has a lot of legs to it, said a partner at one options trading firm. Well look again, because these former wallflowers are ready to go. Responding to investor interest, stock exchanges are thinking about creating a new Defense Index. The American Stock Exchange has its 15- stock index up and running, Philadelphia and Chicago are not far behind. That is music to the ears of weapons manufacturers. And they have not wasted any time capitalizing on Congress' new generosity. As a lobbyist for a major defense contractor boasted, There are 150 programs on Capitol Hill that we are actively working. Congress is still working out the wrinkles of their versions of the military budgets, but weapons manufacturers and their supporters are confident that it will be big. With the [Bush] administration, we'll see a rebuilding of the military to bring it back to where it was eight years ago, said defense analyst Paul Nisbet. We'll see a considerable appreciation in defense stocks, as we saw in the Reagan years. NORTHROP GRUMMAN This Los Angeles-based company manufacturers planes and bombers dropping munitions on Afghanistan, including the B-2 bomber, the F-14 fighter. The company also makes the much-praised unmanned Global Hawk. The $10 million per copy Global Hawk has been deployed to Afghanistan despite the fact that it had not completed its testing requirements. The company boasts that it has the capability to meet current and emerging national defense needs, including anti-terrorism and homeland security. And analysts like Loren Thompson agree, the most immediate hardware demand that this crisis will generate is for intelligence gathering and command and control. Those are Northrop's strengths. In addition to its planes and bombers, the company's Maryland based Electronic Systems division makes high tech systems like the Airborne Warning and Control Systems (AWACS), a control center and a huge radar disc mounted atop a Boeing 707, which serves as the airborne nerve center for a military air campaign. Northrop Grumman is also responsible for ALQ-15 jamming device, used to protect jets from enemy radar-guided missiles. As David Steigman, senior defense analyst for the Teal Group, boasts, Northrop Grumman's role is supplying the command control communications and the intelligence surveillance systems to find the bad guys and bop them in the head. When Wall Street opened again on September 17, 2001, Northrop Grumman was ready to bob those bad guys and its stock had risen 16% to $94 a share in anticipation of the coming war. Two days after bombing in Afghanistan began; Northrop Grumman's stock
[CTRL] 2001 : The Year of the Horse
[CTRL] Licenced to Program?
-Caveat Lector- http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-8145809.html?tag=tp_pr Enough already! Ban programming. @ Articles Dec 16 2001 - 02:54 EST acideye writes: No I don't agree with or endorse in any way this statement, but to anyone who would like an insight into the minds (often closed minds) of the general public who have been manipulated by the mass media into almost decleration of war on Hackers and other such sub-cultures of hacking. This article is from Adequacy.org and as such copyright and the rest of it. Programming computers is, for practically everyone, something done far away in exotic software engineering facilities by a priesthood of ultra-specialized, half-mad obsessive-compulsives. This is as it should be, and it is where we get the software we use every day to do our online banking, send email, and get productive work done. Though few normal people have any experience of it, or know anyone who does it, there is another kind of programming performed outside this legitimate sphere, one that you probably assumed was illegal, but shockingly, is not. This other kind of programming also affects us every day, but negatively, as a continuous series of massive disruptions to the worldwide economy in the form of viruses, in the form of important and useful computer services being sabotaged with denial-of-service, in the form of defacement attacks, and in the form of substantially higher prices for all sorts of intellectual property such as software, DVD movies and music on CD, all due to piracy. I'm talking about hacking of course. It is the evil dark side to all the good that computers have brought us, and we are all sick of it. The time has come to put a stop to hacking, because we can no longer tolerate the damage hackers cause, and the potential risk of terrorism when, not if, hackers go to work for such forces of mayhem as have begun an onslaught of terror against not just the United States, but Western Civilization's freedom to be loose and decadent in general. For a time, our society tolerated hackers because they promised that something useful would come of their shady and secretive tinkering. Yet we have had nothing but a harvest of bitter fruit from hackers, and it is now time to pull the plug. It is time to ban all unlicensed computer programming, and take steps to ensure that no one outside of government, select universities, and state-sanctioned private-sector corporate software engineering facilities is given the knowledge, skills, or means to write or compile computer code of any kind. Amateur or hobbyist computer programming has grown from a minor annoyance to a major social disease, and it simply can no longer be tolerated. Although ordinary decent people will find this suggestion to be obvious to the point of banality -- in fact, I'm sure many of you are surprised that amateur computer programming was ever legal! -- many of those who associate themselves with the hacker community will bridle at the suggestion. Strictly as an exercise, it would perhaps be diverting to entertain some of their more obvious objections. The first cry in defense of hobbyists toying with this dangerous technology is that hackers have already proven their worth by producing a valuable piece of software -- namely, the Apache web server. Others would even claim that more than one useful program has been written in the garages and and lonely bedrooms of hobbyists. There are two delusions at work here. One of these delusions is that any of the Open Source applications that have found some utility in business and industry were written by amateurs. The truth is that Apache began it's life as the work of professional coders employed by Amazon.com, and as any software engineer you want to ask can tell you, nothing of value was added by anyone but professionals. In truth, the work of the gainfully employed programmers on this project was often interrupted and even sabotaged by the ham-fisted meddling of the teenage wanna-be's and self-styled gurus who have accumulated around professional Open Source projects like so many leeches and barnacles. This episode alone demonstrates that if there is anything good to come out of Open Source methodology, it will only be helped along by the removal of dilettantes from the picture. Indeed, once the hackers have been outlawed, Open Source will very likely reach new heights of utility and quality, and perhaps even fulfill the promise of greatness that Open Source advocates have been making for years. The other delusion, or I should say piece of misinformation, that has been perpetrated by hackers is that there are many other tools that have been created by hackers and gifted to a grateful world by our benevolent hobbyists. What about Emacs, for example? What about it? Emacs was originally created at MIT, a trusted part of the US military research establishment. Obviously, such facilities and their (suitably cleared) employees will never be banned. The time has
Re: [CTRL] USA STRUGGLES AGAINST ISRAELI SPIES AND JEWISH EXTREMISTS
-Caveat Lector- After seeing this report, I realize that my office was visited by one of the Israeli 'art student' spies about 2 yrs ago. I suspect that they were just gathering basic info, such as address, number of employees, presence of computers, etc. Spydom's version of routine grunt work. I told them I preferred the painting of the elephants. Of course, government and military offices may have merited more significant attention. n a message dated 12/17/01 6:19:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fox reports that before the Sept.11 events, 140 Israelis were detained on suspicion of espionage. Israelâs special services have created a wide spy network in the USA. Students studying art in Jerusalem penetrated US army bases, anti-drug services, governmental institutions, secret offices, and homes of law enforcement officers. Al Hidell PARANOIA: The Conspiracy Reader PO Box 1041 Providence, RI 02901 [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.paranoiamagazine.com;http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/A A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Experiment
-Caveat Lector- Really Steve - twice this week I have read letters where our government officials are called ruling class..now those these individuals presumably are from America a little difficult to believe, for only in the UK for examle, do you have working class. Now what is this working class? Well everything you eat, drink, the house in which you live, the car in which you drive, the plumbing you use, to every ditch dug and every skyscraper built, it has been the working man and woman, who built same. Now the ruling class, this is a title essentially which these bums have conferred upon themselves. - for really Steve we are a self governing people? Further everything is an experiment - the experimentors and the experimenttees only thing, most of these so called experiments when practiced in secret, are illegal when they use working classes as their subjects. For instancce the chemtrails - this weather modification program from which how many have died? Now I think I know part of this grand exeriment and it is to do with of all things, roses..key experiment..and we have mind control and drugs and all kinds of germs like anthrax being brought upon us as one of the woe is me crap which might play in the jungles, but now in my turf. So this Reingold wrote a letter about the ruling class..who is this guy? Note - he accepts ruling class and I say anybody that stupid who lets these bastards brainwash them into thing they are to be ruled over deserves maybe what he gets but then some people like to be martyers and suffer. I have never liked martyers, because usually they take so many innocents with them... Our officials are elected and if we do not like the way they are elected, change the law - if we do not like the officials, including a President - vote the bums out. Vote all the bums outthat entire Congress and Senate just passed $4,000 dollar raises for themselves, while over 1,000,000 jobs have been lost over the past few years - all gone abroad. You see big business has finally taken over the government by simply moving their opertions overseas - increasing their profits, while decreasing jobs for these working class people. If you want to accept the role of a servant, go ahead..but it works the other way around.these so called ruling classes are the public servants, we pay their salaries, and we can vote them in and vote them out but you have to get control of your government on a local level for they all come begging to us, when they want our vote. Our problem is this - America is sports crazy, football - organized sports.two teams play against each other, one wins, one loses - but hey there is a guy who owns both teams who does not give a damn who wins or loses, or how they play the game because they are going to take their share from the top.. This is how this country is now - we lost the Democrat Party in the sixty period and it began with murder of JFK...RFKWallace and herein lay the key to success. If worked right, do away with petty bickeringn.this third party would have the Republicans and Democrats at their feet for without this working class those bastards could not get elected to office of trashman (and a trashman is working class, so rule them out - they are not qualified). A good third party movement - that is why they start another fourth party movement to offset the strong third party movement again divide and conquer. So this Reingold calling our government ruling class this guy is really English in disguise or he just has been brainwashed into thinking we elect a President to rule over us. A President is elected to provide services to the entire nation..he might think he answers to God and he might eventually, but when he is on this earth and in the Oval Office, he ansers to US, and not God. I am for Throw All The Bums Out - the good and the bad.cut off their salaries and pensions and see how they like it.take away their jobs, as they have permitted the NWO to take away our jobs..see them turn USA into banana boat republic..see how big business left beause of high taxes - one rips off the other but we get stuck with the bill. I say thrown the bums out AND POWER TO THE PEOPLE.. Children go to bed hungry at night, people lying in streets in trash bags, and how much did the lawyers get to bttle Clinton's battle during his presidency? So in summation - cui bono.. Experimentor and Experimentees? You better believe it - but that guy who went berzerk at the IRS - Wiley Coyote was it? Living proof - we are getting to them, but they still have not gotten the message. What will it take a bunch of farmers with another load of fertilizer and a pitchfork? Sudden surge of patriotism is just fine but with it comes a muzzle- censoship of the public, not the press - for the word is more powerful than the sword. THROW THE BUMS ALL OUT... Unless you like eating crumbs from Henry
[CTRL] Israel Selects a New Target for the USA
-Caveat Lector- --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], NY Transfer News [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Via NY Transfer News * All the News That Doesn't Fit [OH! The MOSSAD says Iran is developing NUKES! And other WEAPONS OF MAS DESTRUCTION! Well, Israel sure knows what weapns of mass destruction are... What IS the US waiting for? Another 911? Better get right out there and bomb Tehran, Sheriff Bush] Iran working on nukes, says Mossad chief JERUSALEM, Dec 17 (AP)--In a rare public speech, the head of Israel's Mossad intelligence agency said Sunday that Iran was continuing its attempt to develop nuclear and other non-conventional weapons, but was also sending occasional hints that it could someday reconcile with Israel. Mossad chief Ephraim Halevy offered his assessment at a public conference on security in Tel Aviv. There are Iranians in high-standing positions of influence that are saying that if there is an Israeli-Palestinian agreement ... Iran will not stand in the way of that agreement, Halevy said. There are even covert messages of the possibility of reconciliation emanating from Iran. These are lone chords at the moment, and they are in no way joining to form a melody, Halevy added, without providing additional details. However, he also stressed that Iran was attempting to develop nuclear and other weapons of mass destruction, as well as expanding its long-range missile program. Iran and Israel have been bitter enemies for years, with Iran providing support for the militant Islamic group Hezbollah in Lebanon. Hezbollah fought for years against Israeli troops in south Lebanon. Israel pulled its forces out of Lebanon last year, but Hezbollah still wages sporadic attacks over a disputed patch of territory along the border. Meanwhile, Halevy described the US-led campaign against international terrorism as an unprecedented development because of its focus on an organisation -- Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda network -- rather than a sovereign state. The campaign could eventually lead some countries, such as Iran and Syria, to end their support of radical groups accused of carrying out terrorism, Halevy said. Halevy said that after the war in Afghanistan, international pressure could mount on Syrian President Bashar Assad to bite the bullet, and crack down on radical groups in his country. The British-born Halevy is only the second Mossad chief to be identified by name. Until recent years, Israel's military censor prohibited publication of the Mossad chief's name or photograph. Halevy spoke at a security conference in December of last year in what was billed as the first ever public speech by the head of the Israeli intelligence agency. (AP) = NY Transfer News Collective * A Service of Blythe Systems Since 1985 - Information for the Rest of Us 339 Lafayette St., New York, NY 10012 http://www.blythe.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = --- End forwarded message --- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 'Elvis' Fear over bin Laden (Psy-War)
-Caveat Lector- --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], NY Transfer News [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Via NY Transfer News * All the News That Doesn't Fit [An exercise in psychological warfare and damage control: Pre-empt the claims that bin Laden is alive and well, sighted someplace or other, after he fails to be killed or apprehended -- which is exactly what happened on December 17th, when even Rummy acknowledged that bin Laden has disappeared without a trace, and that they have neither killed nor captured him. Their attempts to pre-empt forgery accusations over the famous bin Laden video didn't work, and neither will this.--NY Transfer] The Times of London - December 14, 2001 'ELVIS' FEAR OVER BIN LADEN by Damian Whitworth WASHINGTON, December 14--FEARS are growing in Washington that Osama bin Laden could be killed and no one will ever know about it. Officials are cautioning that the massive bombing assaults on the Tora Bora mountains may not only succeed in killing the al-Qaeda leader but also mean that his body will never be found. In the event that he is killed and his body is found, the US has obtained DNA samples from bin Laden's family to help identify his body, ABC Newsreported yesterday. But the use of daisy cutter bombs that can laywaste to huge swaths of terrain and destroy caves has highlighted the possibility of his body never being found. Without mentioning bin Laden, Paul Wolfowitz, the Deputy Defence Secretary, said: We may have killed people in caves, and we may never know that we got them. Or it may, at the very least, be a very long time before we know. Another concern is that if bin Laden is killed or kills himself, his supporters would ensure that no trace of his body was left. One Western diplomat said he feared that there would be rumours of him for years to come, inspiring his followers to keep his flame alive. There would be more sightings of him than Elvis, he said. Donald Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary, said yesterday that he was convinced bin Laden was still in Afghanistan. We are chasing him. He is hiding. He does not want us to know where he is, Mr Rumsfeld said. CNN reported later: The United States has reason to believe that Osama bin Laden is surrounded by opposition forces and US forces in a cave complex in Tora Bora. = NY Transfer News Collective * A Service of Blythe Systems Since 1985 - Information for the Rest of Us 339 Lafayette St., New York, NY 10012 http://www.blythe.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = --- End forwarded message --- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [ParanoidTimes] 9/11 - ISRAEL'S AMBIGUOUS ROLE (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 03:36:06 +1100 From: Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ParanoidTimes] 9/11 - ISRAEL'S AMBIGUOUS ROLE 9/11 - ISRAEL'S AMBIGUOUS ROLE FOX NEWS POINTS TO AN OMINOUS CONCLUSION By: Justin Raimondo Published in the December 24, 2001 issue of Ether Zone When is American foreign policy going to start putting America first? The US had nothing to gain, and everything to lose, by vetoing a UN resolution condemning violence on all sides in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The resolution condemned all terrorism, called for the creation of a monitoring mechanism to prevent violence, denounced executions without trial, and said the destruction of property must cease. You gotta problem with that? NEGROPONTE'S VETO This administration does: John Negroponte, American ambassador to the UN, justified the US veto by averring that the resolution aimed to isolate politically one of the parties to the conflict through an attempt to throw the weight of the Council behind the other party.'' The resolution, said Negroponte, was unsatisfactory because it didn't specifically mention recent acts of terrorism'' against Israelis. Naturally, this scuttled the whole thing, as it was intended to do. THE VICTIMOLOGICAL OLYMPICS For this argument, if carried on long enough, would lead to an infinite regression of victimological examples: the pro-Arab bloc would insist on specifically mentioning the supposedly accidental killing of five Palestinian children by an Israeli booby-trap bomb planted near a school. This would be the cue for the Israeli side to come up with a Hamas-Hizbollah atrocity that merits inclusion - and, before you know it, we're all the way back to 1948 with the pro-Arabists demanding the inclusion of the massacre at Deir Yassein, and, naturally, the Zionist bloc doing them one better by moving for some mention of the Roman conquest and persecution of the Jews. THE WAR AGAINST THE WORLD The US veto undermines the war effort, and makes the Americans seems as if they are waging a war not only on Islam, but against the entire world on behalf of Israel. After decades of trying to prove its bona fides as an honest broker of peace in the region, it is the US that is effectively isolated. The resolution was cosponsored (or amended) by France and the Security Council vote was 12-1, with Britain and Norway abstaining. Whatever credibility the US had in the Arab world - very little, I'm afraid - was lost with that one arrogant gesture. So much for the grand coalition that Colin Powell has been building: the Israeli lobby in the US has demolished it with a single blow. THE LAST LAUGH Is that the demonic laughter of the Mad Sheik I hear, chortling in his cave at this act of American self-sabotage? It seems Osama bin Laden may not be long for this world. Yet he will die happy in the knowledge that the US is sowing the seeds of his future warrior army, who will spring like Muslim Myrmidons out of Palestine's blood-soaked earth. BATTLEGROUND AMERICA Speaking of sabotage, the story of the gigantic Israeli spy operation in the US - and its mysterious activities in the weeks prior to 9/11 - continues to amaze and shock even me. When I wrote, a few weeks ago, that the detention of some 60 Israelis in connection with 9/11 was ominous little did I realize just how much of an understatement that would turn out to be. It is often said that, post-9/11, the US is going through what the Israelis have had to endure for decades. The series of Fox News special reports on Israeli penetration of US intelligence assets puts this insight in an entirely new light. For it appears, from what we are learning, that the struggle between two desert tribes in a far away land has truly been brought home to the US: America, we are discovering to our horror, has become a battleground for both sides in that ancient conflict. ENDS MEANS As I related last week, the first part of this astonishing four-part series by Fox News reporter Carl Cameron presents credible evidence suggesting Israeli intelligence had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks. The second and third parts show they had the means to acquire this knowledge. According to Cameron, Fox News has learned that some American terrorist investigators fear certain suspects in the Sept. 11 attacks may have managed to stay ahead of them, by knowing who and when investigators are calling on the telephone. ALL ROADS LEAD TO AMDOCS Cameron takes us through an explanation of how and why virtually all telephone calls in the US are billed by a single company, Amdocs Ltd., which just happens to be headquartered in Israel. Chances are that when you make a call, the record of the call and the billing is done through Amdocs. With a virtual monopoly in the US, and tentacles worldwide, Cameron reports that it is virtually impossible to make a call on normal phones without generating an
[CTRL] The UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT is the World's Greatest TERRORIST ORGANIZATION
-Caveat Lector- The UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT is the World's Greatest TERRORIST ORGANIZATION The greatest acts of terrorism are not committed by furtive gangs of masked desperados in foreign lands. The most horrific acts of terrorism in world history have always been committed by governments. The government and military of the United States of America have committed massive acts of international terrorism and brutal genocide throughout the 20th century. Official FBI definition of terrorism: Terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives. By its own definition the hypocrite U.S. government is guilty of terrorism on a massive, international scale. And for over 100 years! The U.S. government has broken international law and the Geneva Convention many times with its brutal use of force and horrific violence against persons and property, to intimidate and coerce governments, civilian populations, and many segments thereof, in furtherance of political, social and especially economic objectives. Terrorism at the World Trade Center Our own evil government bears the ultimate responsibility for this disaster, no matter who actually carried it out. If the homicidal psychopaths of the United States military/government didn't have the nasty habit of mass-murdering civilian men, women and children around the world, there wouldn't be anybody who wanted revenge. But if foreign terrorists were involved in the WTC attack they would have to be the best friends the U.S. government ever had. The U.S. government itself had everything to gain from this act of barbarism against the American people. In fact, the emerging evidence makes it certain that even if the U.S. military/government did not carry out the attacks itself, at the very least it knew about them in advance and allowed them to happen. Here are six facts which support this conclusion: Some very unusual criminal insider trading took place on Wall Street the week before September 11. Somebody actually made millions of dollars from the death of thousands of people at the WTC. The specific type of insider trading and the people and banks involved provide very strong circumstantial evidence that wealthy individuals allied with the CIA had prior knowledge of the World Trade Center attack. The U.S. Air Force does in fact have the technological ability to guide large jet aircraft by remote control, and the jet that hit the Pentagon, in particular, was flown with a very high level of skill, much higher than the supposed hijackers were capable of. Also very revealing is the fact that not a single U.S. Air Force jet fighter was scrambled from Andrews Air Force base which is 10 miles from the Pentagon even a full hour after the first WTC tower was hit. Andrews Air Force Base is charged with defending Washington D.C.'s airspace. Yet the U.S. Air Force allowed the third jet to circle the Pentagon in a tight, diving spiral, and finally crash into it on the Army side, interestingly. Criminal hoaxes have been perpetrated several times before to provide the essential propaganda to launch a U.S. war. Until the 9-11 attacks the greatest case of U.S. government fraud involving an assault on Americans was the December 7, 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor: The Pearl Harbor attack was known about in advance. It was allowed to happen because it provided the overwhelming propaganda needed to launch a war against the German and Japanese imperialist competitors of the American Empire. Remember the Maine? That battleship was not sunk by Cuban terrorists as the crooked, jingoistic newspapers of the day claimed. But the lie provided the needed propaganda to start the Spanish-American War of 1898. The 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident was a hoax that provided the propaganda needed to escalate the Vietnam Genocide. The Kuwaiti hospital incubator hoax provided propaganda for the Gulf War terror campaign in 1991. The Bosnian concentration camp hoax of 1992 and the Racak massacre hoax of 1999 provided the needed propaganda for the U.S./NATO terror campaign against the Yugoslavian people. The brutal terrorism of September 11 against the American people is a propaganda gold mine without precedent for the brutal terrorists of the U.S. military/government and their obedient newsmedia. This propaganda is absolutely essential to the U.S. military/government's geopolitical strategy for world domination. America's genocidal history makes it abundantly clear that the U.S. government and military have more than enough barbaric ruthlessness to commit such inhuman acts. History proves conclusively that they place no value whatsoever on human life. That's what this whole website is about. Any government and military that will murder people by the millions for profit is not going to have any problem with murdering a few thousand
[CTRL] Fwd: Capitol Hill Anthrax Matches Army's Stocks 5 Labs Can Trace Spores to Ft. Detrick -Wash Post
---BeginMessage--- Capitol Hill Anthrax Matches Army's Stocks 5 Labs Can Trace Spores to Ft. Detrick Rich Magan, left, and Howard Schmidt of Lockheed Martin/REAC check the neighborhood near the Hart Office Building for chlorine dioxide gas to be introduced to kill anthrax in the structure. (Robert A. Reeder - The Washington Post) By Rick Weiss and Susan Schmidt Washington Post Staff Writers Sunday, December 16, 2001; Page A01 Genetic fingerprinting studies indicate that the anthrax spores mailed to Capitol Hill are identical to stocks of the deadly bacteria maintained by the U.S. Army since 1980, according to scientists familiar with the most recent tests. Although many laboratories possess the Ames strain of anthrax involved in this fall's bioterrorist attacks, only five laboratories so far have been found to have spores with perfect genetic matches to those in the Senate letters, the scientists said. And all those labs can trace back their samples to a single U.S. military source: the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Disease (USAMRIID) at Fort Detrick, Md. "That means the original source [of the terrorist material] had to have been USAMRIID," said one of the scientists. Those matching samples are at Fort Detrick; the Dugway Proving Ground military research facility in Utah; a British military lab called Porton Down; and microbial depositories at Louisiana State University (LSU) and Northern Arizona University. Northern Arizona University received its sample from LSU, which received its sample from Porton Down. Dugway and Porton Down got their samples directly from USAMRIID. In another development yesterday, government health officials said they planned to recommend that about 3,000 people who were exposed to anthrax, including hundreds of Washington postal and Capitol Hill workers, be offered an experimental vaccine as a precaution in case antibiotic treatment alone failed to protect them from getting sick. The FBI's investigation into the anthrax attacks is increasingly focusing on whether U.S. government bioweapons research programs, including one conducted by the CIA, may have been the source of deadly anthrax powder sent through the mail, according to sources with knowledge of the probe. The results of the genetic tests strengthen that possibility. The FBI is focusing on a contractor that worked with the CIA, one source said. But it remains unknown which lab may have lost control of the material that apparently ended up in terrorist hands. One of the two scientists familiar with the genetic testing, who has been advising the government on the anthrax scare, said investigators still know little about security at Porton Down, though they have no reason to suppose it has been inadequate. Of the domestic labs, Dugway has attracted the most attention from the FBI, he said. Dugway is also the only facility known in recent years to have processed anthrax spores into the powdery form that is most easily inhaled. Scientists have known for some time that bacteria used in the terrorist attacks belong to the Ames strain, a variant of the anthrax bacterium, Bacillus anthracis, that was first isolated from a cow in Iowa and has been under study by military scientists for decades. But the Ames strain comes in various subtypes that can be distinguished from one another by detailed tests on the microbe's genes. The genetic fingerprinting finding was made by a research team led by geneticist Paul Keim at Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff, which has been comparing the Ames strain bacteria found in the Senate letters to other Ames strain samples retrieved from nature and from various university and government laboratories. "That's good detective work in the sense of determining the origins; this will narrow the search for the people who had access to the strain," said Jennie Hunter-Cevera, a microbiologist and president of the University of Maryland Biotechnology Institute. Other experts were cautious, noting that it is possible that the exact subtype of the Ames strain could have originated elsewhere -- perhaps even isolated from animals or soil in the wild. "It's an important finding but it's not one of those things that says, 'Aha!' " said Richard Spertzel, a former director of the U.N. biological weapons team in Iraq. The scientists are still planning to do genetic testing on anthrax bacteria from the Defense Research Establishment Suffield, a Canadian military research facility, the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque, and the Battelle Memorial Institute in Columbus, Ohio, a government contractor doing research on anthrax vaccines. Those are the only other facilities known to have received samples from USAMRIID. The researchers also plan to test samples obtained from nature, and from other university labs known to have the Ames strain to see if any others match. But of the few such samples that have been tested so far
Re: [CTRL] 'Elvis' Fear over bin Laden (Psy-War)
-Caveat Lector- Love that Wanted Dead or Alive and now they will have to change it to just Wanted The Condor is in flight with the wind beneath his wings? Zechariah, chapter 5 9: Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven. 10: Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah? 11: And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base. Saba Note: Shinar - some say City of God, Tower of Babelbut there was set The Base? Al Qaida?Is Osama Going Home. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Enron and Barrick
---BeginMessage--- Kris wrote on CIADrugs: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: MonDec17,2001 10:43 amSubject: Fwd: [GATA] Will Barrick bid for Normandy, or even for AngloGold?== Consider the fact that the men who control Barrick also control TrizecHahn, which owns the complex of office buildings in southwest downtown-Houston whose tenants include Halliburton and Enron. The office buildings were originally built by a joint venture composed of Cullen Bank and Dresser Industries (owned by Brown Brothers Harriman). The corporation issued debentures to improve the buildings, with the money coming from Trizec--a Canadian company that launders money for Bronfmans. It also includes Eagle Star Insurance (Rothschild) and British and Canadian banking establishment. My guess is that this network which acquired the office buildings, also is heavily invested in the business of the tenants of those buildings. In fact, Enron may have been a cleverly disguised scheme to launder money using derivatives. The 200 million dollar building Enron was building nearby--which has not been completed--contained numerous floors for such trading exchanges to be handled. (see below) Linda -Original Message-From: Linda Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Catherine Austin Fitts [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kate [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lois Ann Battuello [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:19 PMSubject: Importance of place in Enron analysis Don't forget about the importance of location. Where is Enron, physically, located? Before Enron, there was Houston Natural Gas. It had a building constructed at 1200 Travis in the late 1960s by Kenneth Schnitzer (the Houston Natural Gas Building) which was managed by "Century-Gulf Realty Co.," a joint venture between Century Partnerscomprised of the Schnitzer brothers, the Weingartens and Harold Falik et al.and Gulf Interstate, which was also involved in an oil exploration partnership with John Loebs sister, Margaret Kempner. Falik was president of the Imperial Sugar Co. in Sugar Land founded by the Kempners. (This is likely a Rothschild-connected group of Jewish tycoons from Galveston and Houston.) Gulf Interstate also included John Loeb's daughter, Ann Bronfman, the former wife of Edgar Bronfman, Sr. and mother of Jr. In 1968 United Gas (an energy company founded by James Baker's family) was acquired by Pennzoil and was divested two years later to form Entex. In 1972 Entex acquired 20% interest in University Savings and the remaining interest later. In 1976 Houston Natural Gas merged into Entex. Dynegy is located in the building at 1000 Louisiana called the Wells Fargo Bank Plaza (formerly Allied Bank Plaza) Built: 1983. This was Walter Mischer's bank, which was across the street from the First International Bank at 1100 Louisiana--where W.S. Farish Co. relocated. Enron Building (formerly Four Allen Center) Built: 1983. Enron Center (Sometimes called Enron II or Enron South) Built: July 13, 1999-2001 (unfinished). Cost: US$200,000,000.00. The whole building is 40-stories, but only the top 33 are traditional office structure. The bottom seven levels house four trading floors for commodities like electricity, natural gas and internet bandwidth. The bottom two floors feature an auditorium, shops, and a food court. In 1970 Dresser Industries Houston offices were located in the old Humble Oil/Main Bank Building. It was Main Bank stock that was acquired by John Connally and his Saudi friends who were connected to BCCI. Dresser later moved to 601 Jefferson to a building owned by Cullen Center, Inc. An October 2, 1996 Houston Chronicle article states that Trizec owns 1600 Smith and the M.W. Kellogg Building at 601 Jefferson (formerly Dresser Industries). Although in 1986 Trizec made a $50 million loan to Cullen Center, Inc. to pay for Class B debentures issued by the corporation, which owned the office buildings at 500 and 600 Jefferson and the Whitehall Hotel [K387275 - K387277], no deed or foreclosure in favor of Trizec appears of record; however, the article indicates that Trizec already owns the complex and plans to buy the Allen Center complex at 333 Clay, 1200 Smith, 500 Dallas and the Doubletree Hotel. A later article states that Trizec did in fact buy the property, but again nothing of record reflects such a sale or foreclosure. It must have been a stock transaction only, leaving title to the land in Cullen Center, Inc. The address of Trizec Properties is 1200 Seventeenth St. in Denver. See http://houston.bcentral.com/houston/stories/1996/10/07/story3.html http://www.fujitecamerica.com/aboutfai/profiles/profile_1600smithstreet.htm This striking 55-story Houston office tower has been known for many years as Cullen Center Plaza. Purchased recently by TrizecHahn Office Properties, the tower is now known as the 1600 Smith Street Building. photos http://home.wanadoo.nl/patriczik/houston2.htm map of downtown buildings
[CTRL] A disturbing pattern of secrecy is emerging from the White House
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:23:41 +0100 From: Mario Profaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [Spy News] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Spy News] A disturbing pattern of secrecy is emerging from the White House http://www.roanoke.com/roatimes/news/story123035.html End the pattern of secrecy Monday, December 17, 2001 The Bush administration has shown a troublesome tendency to use its power to stifle information it doesn't want public. A DISTURBING pattern of secrecy is emerging from the White House. The latest hit limiting access to government business came last week when President Bush invoked executive privilege to block Congress from seeing prosecutors' memos in some criminal cases. Even stalwart Republican leaders were angered by the move, and rightfully so. This nation was founded on the ideal of public trust. Representative democracy relies upon more, not less, information by which citizens hold accountable those officials who govern on their behalf. But lately, the Bush administration has made some ill-considered moves that would keep the electorate uninformed about government actions. Last month, Bush struck a blow against openness with an executive order allowing sitting or former presidents - even the families of deceased presidents - to veto release of their papers to historians or the media. That's regrettable, showing disregard for providing an accurate, historical record. Members of the president's own party were justified in their outrage last week when he ordered Attorney General John Ashcroft to prevent a congressional committee from reviewing documents, including those about a scandal involving the FBI and mob informants in Boston and Bill Clinton's fund-raising tactics. Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind., the committee chairman, said in frustration and anger, It seems like the Justice Department is more interested in creating a new policy of secrecy than in accommodating our need to get to the bottom of the Boston mess. Congress' investigative and auditing office is considering a lawsuit against the Bush White House to force it to identify industry executives who met with Vice President Dick Cheney about energy policy. Several weeks ago, the administration asked the cooperation of TV networks in refraining from airing propaganda tapes of Osama bin Laden. Unfortunately, the networks complied. If America is to stay true to its ideals, President Bush should reassess his tendency toward secrecy. --- This mail, sent by Mario Profaca, is clean, certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.307 / Virus Database: 168 - Release Date: 11. 12. 01 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Need new boots for winter? Looking for a perfect gift for your shoe loving friends? Zappos.com is the perfect fit for all your shoe needs! http://us.click.yahoo.com/ltdUpD/QrSDAA/ySSFAA/TySplB/TM -~- == SPY NEWS is OSINT newsletter and discussion list associated to Mario's Cyberspace Station http://mprofaca.cro.net/mainmenu.html == *** FAIR USE NOTICE. This message contains copyrighted material whose use has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Spy News is making it available without profit to SPY NEWS eGroup members who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information in their efforts to advance the understanding of intelligence and law enforcement organizations, their activities, methods, techniques, human rights, civil liberties, social justice and other intelligence related issues, for non-profit research and educational purposes only. We believe that this constitutes a 'fair use' of the copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the U.S. Copyright Law. If you wish to use this copyrighted material for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use,' you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml --- SPY NEWS home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spynews To change your subscription mode to Daily Digest (one message a day) send a blank message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that replying to THIS e-mail will not remove you from the mailing list. To unsubscribe SPYNEWS send a blank message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mario Profaca, independent journalist, SPY NEWS eGroup list owner, editor moderator, is a member of of the Committee of Concerned Journalists, an initiative administered through the offices of the Project for Excellence in Journalism in Washington, D.C. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ A
Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?
-Caveat Lector- From: Xxx Yyy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, it will be up to the religious leaders to make sure that members of their congregations work at keeping the religious component alive in their personal lives and not depend on the larger community to do their work for them. It will be up to them to remind their followers that Winter Holidays are being celebrated at the same time Christmas is and not to confuse the two. This is nothing new; one of the reasons for the Restoration (the overthrow of the Cromwellian government in England in the 1600s) was due to the fact that the Puritanical government had outlawed all secular forms of Christmas celebration...the only thing that was allowed was to attend chuch on Christmas Day. It seems that all of the scandalous secular celebratory customs were just too popular for the general public to give up for long... Indeed, New England for more than 2 centuries tended to adhere to the edicts of its Puritan ancestors and did not have secular Christmas displays (indeed many New England communities outright outlawed such displays), and they looked aghast at what they thought quite scandalous behaviour by their New York State neighbors, descendents of the original Dutch immigrants who continued the quite merry secular Christmas customs of the Netherlands. In fact, it was the documenting of such customs in The Knickerbocker Tales (from which comes the Rip Van Winkle legend) that introduced many Dutch Christmas customs into the American consciousness, such as the concept of Sinte Klaas, Dutch for Saint (Ni)cholas, which got anglified into Santa Claus; and the custom of leaving one's shoes out for Sinte to fill with candy and toys, which was modified into hanging stockings on the fireplace mantlebefore the early to mid 1800s, one would have been hard pressed to find any sign of the Christmas season in New England, save for the devout Yankees attending church on the morning of December 25th. June A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bush May Install Nominees on His Own?
-Caveat Lector- President Bush may act on his own to install controversial nominees at the Labor and State departments if the Democratic Senate refuses to vote on them this week. Senior administration officials said Monday they are exploring ways to give Otto Reich and Eugene Scalia temporary appointments during Congress' recess. The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Bush has not made a final decision but is likely to issue recess appointments if the Senate doesn't act. http://www.memes.org/article.php?sid=805mode=order=0 i am beginning to think that civil war is what bush wants... an excuse to annhilate 'undesirables' __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Peterborough's response to the war
-Caveat Lector- http://www.studentrights.ca Twenty-eight high school students from the communities of Peterborough and Lakefield in Ontario feel they are being discriminated against by their school board administration. Fearing terrorist attacks, The Kawartha Pine Ridge District School Board banned all international trips for their students for an indefinite period. Parents have subsequently organized a private trip to The Hague International Model United Nations conference for these 28 students. The school board administration is refusing to allow any rescheduling of examinations, a routine practice, to accommodate these students. In fact, the Board would reschedule the exams if the students attended a different, Board sanctioned university Model United Nations conference, one that the parents feel is inappropriate for high school students. Parents, students and community members are mystified by the heavy handed treatment directed at this particular group of students. If the Board is willing to be this punitive to these students, they may be willing to be punitive to any group of students. IT COULD BE YOUR KIDS NEXT! If you feel strongly about student and parent rights contact the trustees listed on the site and express your outrage. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bin Laden/Public Psy-Ops - WOT-war ?
-Caveat Lector- Or, to keep all explanations open - and thereby satisfying a variety of flavours of theorist(s) - BL's whereabouts need not be revealed at any time from this point. His evident absence is useful absence of evidence for many a faction,... fiction, or 'news'/political diction. Either now if known (whether he is being/was captured or 'pulled-out') or at any time in the future (found dead or alive), the 'public consciousness is now primed to expect BL not necessarily to be found (let alone brought to justice). So we take our pick, I guess: BL is on the run as fugitive (from whom exactly, it is unclear) BL as person does not (nor did ever) exist. BL is 'back home' being debriefed on a job well done - almost loosing his Enron pension whilst away :). BL has been 'put away/retired' (either permanentlty or 'on hold') BL is really 'lost' (either in action or inaction, killed/wounded) BL is being reprogrammed with a new GPS map - to ensure that he is situated wherever it is convenient for him to 'pop-up' next (i.e., in the next country being targeted in the 'war on terrorism' (WOT-war ?)) BL is working on his new film at an undisclosed location (and budget) co-staring Dr Dietlev Bronk (masked for autopsy). Some seasons cheer still available, I hope T. [An exercise in psychological warfare and damage control: Pre-empt the claims that bin Laden is alive and well, sighted someplace or other, after he fails to be killed or apprehended -- which is exactly what happened on December 17th, when even Rummy acknowledged that bin Laden has disappeared without a trace, and that they have neither killed nor captured him. Their attempts to pre-empt forgery accusations over the famous bin Laden video didn't work, and neither will this.--NY Transfer] k *** Just think - War breaks out and nobody shows up . (TD) *** A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?
-Caveat Lector- June, thanks for the background information on the separation of celebrations. No doubt that Winter Holidays are extremely enjoyable. The only difference between then and now is that the heavy hand of mass communication has already relegated the religious component to the fringes. There can be no revival of the religious component on a community wide level for many reasons. Anyone who wants to keep alive the religious component will have to buck the trend without community support, and each individual will have to decide within himself whether it is worth the effort. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Exposing the UBL LIE!!!
-Caveat Lector- http://www.angelfire.com/ab6/waragainstislam/contradiction.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Santa Has REALLY Bad Day on Planet Earth
-Caveat Lector- OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canadian police, taking advantage of sweeping new anti-terrorism legislation, arrested Santa Claus on the grounds that he had a beard, was behaving suspiciously and, in all likelihood, belonged to a underground cell. Word has it that he suspiciously had been asking around at various flight schools regarding instruction only to steer the sleigh, and wasn't concerned about learning to take off or land... And authorities are looking into reports of a man in a white beard and red suit trying to buy or rent crop-dusting equipment from various dealers in the North Pole vacinity... Letters to Santa are being confiscated and their writers' names and addresses being added to the growing list of possible 'terrorist supporters', and the status of the elves' green cards are being looked into June A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?
-Caveat Lector- From: Xxx Yyy [EMAIL PROTECTED] June, thanks for the background information on the separation of celebrations. No doubt that Winter Holidays are extremely enjoyable. The only difference between then and now is that the heavy hand of mass communication has already relegated the religious component to the fringes. No, that was the point I was trying to make with my post, that this is NOT a modern phenomenon, and one can no more blame mass media for the lack of religiosity in most Christmas celebrations than 'heathen', Catholics, or immigrants were blamed for it in the past... The bottom line is that the winter celebrations predate Christianity by millenia, and all that the Christian church did was to adapt and adopt pre-existing festivals and put a Christian veneer onto them. Point of fact, most scholars agree that if the person known as Jesus Christ actually did exist, He wasn't born in December...the December 25th date is an arbitrary one, a combination of northern European pagan Yule customs with mid-east Mithraic festivals (Mithras' birthday was said to be December 25) and with the ancient Roman festival of Saturnalia which was held at the same time of year... So the hue and cry about the 'lack of Christ in Christmas celebrations' is a crock, since none of the celebrations had anything to do with Christ in the first place... Religious Christians have bemoaned for centuries that Christmas has become too secular, and their complaints will continue into the future There can be no revival of the religious component on a community wide level for many reasons. Anyone who wants to keep alive the religious component will have to buck the trend without community support, and each individual will have to decide within himself whether it is worth the effort. Well that is what it all boils down to, doesn't it? Religion is, after all, a PRIVATE affair, a decision between an individual and his or her own conscious and with that of their chosen divinity (if they even decide that they believe in a deity)it should NOT be a community affair, unless everyone in a community is of like mind (as in groups like the Shakers deciding to set up their own community)... For the rest of us who live in diverse communities, so-called Christians will just have to get used to the idea that not everyone believes as they do, and under our form of government, Christians have no right to impose their religion onto other citizens June A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Santa Has REALLY Bad Day on Planet Earth
-Caveat Lector- those 'sunset clauses' have been put into similar legislation in the UK - does anyone smell a big rat - like 5 years ?? a lot can happen in 5 years - its like they as governments are suddenly going to relinquish their newly acquired totopoly ? sunset clause - a good friend of santa clause but both clauses are not intended by the governments to see the light of a new day if you're not paranoid - why not ? you should be . andrew hennessey McLellan rushed out the legislation to meet the needs of various government departments in the wake of the Sept. 11 strikes on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. After concerted protests, the government did soften the legislation by introducing sunset clauses under which two provisions -- allowing for preventive arrests and judicial investigative hearings -- would expire after five years. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Licenced to Program?
-Caveat Lector- this is utter garbage - so we should ban heavy engineering because it makes weapons of war we should ban nuclear science because it can bring pollution we should ban cosmology because it shows our flaws we should ban chemistry because it makes toxic chemicals we should ban biology because there are too many diseases we should ban computer programming because of bad programmers - the author of this article should carry on watching the teletubbies andrew hennessey - Original Message - From: Jei [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:13 PM Subject: [CTRL] Licenced to Program? -Caveat Lector- http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-8145809.html?tag=tp_pr Enough already! Ban programming. @ Articles Dec 16 2001 - 02:54 EST acideye writes: No I don't agree with or endorse in any way this statement, but to anyone who would like an insight into the minds (often closed minds) of the general public who have been manipulated by the mass media into almost decleration of war on Hackers and other such sub-cultures of hacking. This article is from Adequacy.org and as such copyright and the rest of it. Programming computers is, for practically everyone, something done far away in exotic software engineering facilities by a priesthood of ultra-specialized, half-mad obsessive-compulsives. This is as it should be, and it is where we get the software we use every day to do our online banking, send email, and get productive work done. Though few normal people have any experience of it, or know anyone who does it, there is another kind of programming performed outside this legitimate sphere, one that you probably assumed was illegal, but shockingly, is not. This other kind of programming also affects us every day, but negatively, as a continuous series of massive disruptions to the worldwide economy in the form of viruses, in the form of important and useful computer services being sabotaged with denial-of-service, in the form of defacement attacks, and in the form of substantially higher prices for all sorts of intellectual property such as software, DVD movies and music on CD, all due to piracy. I'm talking about hacking of course. It is the evil dark side to all the good that computers have brought us, and we are all sick of it. The time has come to put a stop to hacking, because we can no longer tolerate the damage hackers cause, and the potential risk of terrorism when, not if, hackers go to work for such forces of mayhem as have begun an onslaught of terror against not just the United States, but Western Civilization's freedom to be loose and decadent in general. For a time, our society tolerated hackers because they promised that something useful would come of their shady and secretive tinkering. Yet we have had nothing but a harvest of bitter fruit from hackers, and it is now time to pull the plug. It is time to ban all unlicensed computer programming, and take steps to ensure that no one outside of government, select universities, and state-sanctioned private-sector corporate software engineering facilities is given the knowledge, skills, or means to write or compile computer code of any kind. Amateur or hobbyist computer programming has grown from a minor annoyance to a major social disease, and it simply can no longer be tolerated. Although ordinary decent people will find this suggestion to be obvious to the point of banality -- in fact, I'm sure many of you are surprised that amateur computer programming was ever legal! -- many of those who associate themselves with the hacker community will bridle at the suggestion. Strictly as an exercise, it would perhaps be diverting to entertain some of their more obvious objections. The first cry in defense of hobbyists toying with this dangerous technology is that hackers have already proven their worth by producing a valuable piece of software -- namely, the Apache web server. Others would even claim that more than one useful program has been written in the garages and and lonely bedrooms of hobbyists. There are two delusions at work here. One of these delusions is that any of the Open Source applications that have found some utility in business and industry were written by amateurs. The truth is that Apache began it's life as the work of professional coders employed by Amazon.com, and as any software engineer you want to ask can tell you, nothing of value was added by anyone but professionals. In truth, the work of the gainfully employed programmers on this project was often interrupted and even sabotaged by the ham-fisted meddling of the teenage wanna-be's and self-styled gurus who have accumulated around professional Open Source projects like so many leeches and barnacles. This episode alone demonstrates that if there is anything good to come out of Open Source methodology, it will only be helped along by the removal of
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Fw: Motorola to cut 9,400 more jobs
-Caveat Lector- its suspicious that Motorola are being hit like that - if you goto www.cellular.co.za - you will see that they make the safest mobile phones on the planet - motorola generally use better aerial components that do not fry the brain ... andrew hennessey A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Ghost of Rosie Woods ?
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Destroying Evidence the Easy Way
by Brasscheck
December 17, 2001
Imagine the challenge you would face trying to sneak into a carefully
guarded evidence vault in order to destroy critical evidence related
to the highest profile crime of the last forty years.
The evidence in question? The New York area air traffic controller
tapes from the morning of September 11.
A correspondent reminded me today that no one needed to lift a finger
to make those tapes disappear. All they needed to do was do nothing
for 14 days and they would disappear as if by magic.
Have you heard anything of the disposition of the air traffic
controller tapes from that morning?
Not the cockpit recorders, but the recordings of what was said in the control towers
of Albany, Newburgh, Newark, LaGuardia and JFK airports as two airliners veered
dramatically off course and flew straight down the Hudso
n River, low, and into the World Trade Center towers.
If those recordings were not specifically requested by the National Transportation
Safety Board within the 14 day period after 9/11, and no one else demanded them,
they're gone - forever.
If the tapes exist, why haven't we heard about them? Why is it that the news media
which took an almost pornographic delight in replaying scenes of the crashes and their
aftermath has had nothing to say about these tapes?
In a 9-13 press release, the NTSB states that the 9-11 investigation was taken over by
the FBI and that the NTSB would provide technical assistance with cockpit voice
recorders and flight data recorders. No mention was
made of air traffic control tapes.
http://www.ntsb.gov/Pressrel/2001/010913.htm
In contrast, for the 11/12/01 American Airlines crash in Queens, the NTSB lists the
full range of investigative services it planned to bring to bear:
...among the investigative groups that comprise the NTSB team are Operations,
Witnesses, Structures, Power Plants, Systems, Air Traffic Control , Weather,
Aircraft Performance, Cockpit Voice Recorder and Flight
Data Recorder.
http://www.ntsb.gov/Events/2001/AA587/default.htm
From my correspondent:
as i learned when investigating AS261, after any aircraft accident, the 24 hour
controller tapes are retained for 14 days. but, if no one requests those tape records
for the purpose of the aircraft accident[catastrophe]
investigation, the tape is returned to service and re-used.as far as i have been able
to determine, the ntsb never requested the tape of the LA controllers talking to
AS261. as a consequence, that record was effectively d
estroyed.
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CONTROLLER TAPES THAT INVOLVED
ALL THE COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT THAT CRASHED ON 11/9/01? DID THEY GO UN-
SEIZED BY INVESTIGATORS WITHIN THE 14 DAY TIMEFRAME, THUS BEING
RETURNED TO REUSE. THUS HAVING THE CONTROLLER RECORDS DESTROYED?
Can anyone answer this question?
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[CTRL] The Use of Terrorists
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Bush Says Addicts Are Traitors
by Brad Edmonds
Over the weekend, George W. Bush told Americans that illegal drug use
among Americans was helping our enemies by putting money in the hands
of terrorists and regimes that support them. Theres a sense in which
this is true, but the issues of cause and effect implied by such a
statement are comically wrongheaded, and need to be addressed.
It is indeed significant that Americans buying cocaine, heroin, and
other drugs on the black market puts money in the hands of terrorists
and other unsavory types. But the American governments war on drugs
is the cause. Without the laws we have against recreational drug use,
Americans first would be able to buy American-grown drugs.
Additionally, drugs would be unimaginably less expensive were they
legal. Americans who buy drugs now pay a premium for transportation,
and another exorbitant premium for the risks being taken by the
providers. With a free market in drugs, even if imports still were
popular, they would be so inexpensive the terrorists would
be forced to find other means of support.
So as not to get bogged down in the social, economic, legal, and philosophical
ramifications of recreational drug use, I ask the reader to search LewRockwell.com and
Reason.com for background on the drug war and its relia
ble tendency to worsen drug-related social problems. Suffice it to say here that
legalizing all recreational drugs would not result in chaos: Nearly all drug-related
violence would disappear; milder versions of drugs woul
d appear (much as beer and wine outsell distilled liquors), resulting in fewer
hard-core addicts; virtually all people who dont use drugs now would continue not
using drugs; and, fundamentally, if youre not allowed to s
it in your own home and inhale marijuana smoke into your own body, then you are not
the owner of your own body. Rather, the owner is whoever tells you what you can do
with your body.
It is the United States government that has made drugs so profitable, that has sent
most of their production overseas, and that has created social problems relating to
drugs here at home. Theres more to Bushs unfortunat
e statement, however. In the particular case of Afghanistan, the Taliban (our enemies)
prohibited drug production when they were in power, while the Northern Alliance (our
friends) used the drug trade to scare up funds. I
n the case of heroin, then, addicts who indirectly supported Afghan heroin growers
have been good patriots!
The radio MD, Dean Edell, said it better months ago: To break the finances of those
overseas who subsist on the illegal drug trade, just legalize the drugs. The current
wealthy and violent cartels will fade away, replaced
for the most part by peaceful entrepreneurs here at home.
While recreational drugs are almost universally a bad idea, Bush (as are nearly all
other politicians here and abroad) is looking in the wrong place for a solution to
future terrorism directed against the United States. T
he solutions are in the Peace Archive on this site, and have been advanced by
libertarians elsewhere.
Unfortunately, the tendency of politicians to look at everyone but themselves as
causes of a problem has a long history, and likely a long future. The Patriot Act,
detentions of over 1,000 people in America so far (includ
ing 60 Israelis!), and now this statement by Bush show that we can continue to expect
a keener Big Brotherly eye directed at each of us from Washington. We can only hope
that someday we will begin closing that eye.
December 18, 2001
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[CTRL] 9-11, An Enigma Inside of A Pile of Rubble
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.antiwar.com/justin/pf/p-j121901.html }}}Begin Behind the Headlines by Justin Raimondo Antiwar.com December 19, 2001 THE 9/11 ENIGMA Losing Osama, and everything else, in the 'fog of war' That was pretty exciting there, at least for a while: the Northern Alliance was closing in on Osama bin Laden, or so we were told, and the battle of Tora Bora was going to be Al Qaeda's Gotterdammerung: the Mad Sheik's last stand. They heard Osama's voice giving commands to his beleaguered troops over the radio, and brought in specialists to verify his DNA in case he fell in battle. Pundits argued over whether he should be tried in one of those special military tribunals, and headlines screamed: Osama Cornered! Bin Laden Finished! There's No Escape! Closer and closer the US and its Afghan allies crept, until, at last victory evaporated into the mist, along with OBL himself. Welcome to the new war, the Surreal War, where nothing including victory is quite what it seems . THE DISAPPEARING SHEIK Suddenly, we are told, his trail went cold, and our hi-tech, hi-falutin' multi-billion dollar military machine can't seem to find him anywhere. Like so much else in our crazy mixed-up post-9/11 world, what we thought we k new turns out to have been an illusion. Our great victory, hailed by the pundits, seems equally illusory, dispelled by the news that the Northern Alliance is letting the Taliban leaders go free. In a culture which, as o ne Pentagon type put it, has a history built on bartering, the disappearance of Mullah Omar along with Osama is highly suspicious, to say the least. A HOLLOW VICTORY As the Taliban, and Al Qaeda, melt into the wild country of Central Asia, the triumph of the West seems strangely hollow particularly to George W. Bush and his political advisors, who have no doubt seen that poll in whi ch 70-plus percent say it won't be a real victory unless we get Osama. A ONE-DAY WONDER We are constantly being told how everything is different now, but have even the laws of nature changed? Events no longer seem to have a beginning, a middle, and an end they simply erupt, and then fade away in our coll ective memory, like dreams dimly recalled in the morning. So much about the post-9/11 world seems oddly inconclusive, like a ball of yarn made up entirely of loose ends. There was, for example, the story about the mysteri ous financial transactions that took place just prior to 9/ 11. Unusual amounts of money were bet on the possibility that airlines and insurance companies would stand to lose a lot of their value in the coming weeks. Reme mber that one? It was a one-day wonder, with several stories telling us that the whole thing was being investigated, and then nothing. SO HURRY UP, ALREADY Well, next to nothing. Last I heard (Sunday), German computer experts were still working 'round the clock to unlock the truth behind an unexplained surge in financial transactions made just before 9/11. But they've been working 'round the clock since practically The Day After: so what's the big delay? NEW FRONTIERS FOR WAR PROFITEERS You'll recall that these lucky or else very knowledgeable investors reaped more than $2.5 million in profits by trading options on United Airlines stock, although they never showed up to claim their profits. It was ar ound the end of September when the story broke, and we were told that regulators and law-enforcement agents in the US and Europe were investigating unusual patterns in so-called put-options and short sales financial instruments which amount to placing a bet that the price of a particular stock or commodity will fall. It wasn't just airline stocks that were involved, but also insurance providers and companies resident in the World Tr ade Tower: Morgan Stanley Dean Witter and Merrill Lynch, among others. Such activity skyrocketed in the three trading days before 9/11. This smells real bad, said one stock market maven to the San Francisco Chronicle. A FRESH WIND BLOWS But the stench hasn't lingered, at least not in the public consciousness and the media is too busy transcribing government press releases with one hand and saluting with the other to bother following up on the story. Th e New York Times reported that the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) had found a benign explanation for what seemed to be terrorist insider trading, while the bureaucrats averred that they were pursuing all cr edible leads: and then, like so much else in our oddly insubstantial post-9/11 universe nothing. PRESUMING TOO MUCH Whomever made those investments almost certainly had at least some foreknowledge of the 9/11 catastrophe. Was it Osama bin Laden's broker? His wealthy Arab backers'? The Chronicle piece ended with the speculation of unnam ed experts who claimed that all the likely candidates just had to be affluent Arabs. Why is this necessarily so? The co-authors of the piece didn't exactly
Re: [CTRL] Santa Has REALLY Bad Day on Planet Earth
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/19/01 10:52:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: those 'sunset clauses' have been put into similar legislation in the UK - does anyone smell a big rat - like 5 years ?? a lot can happen in 5 years Yup, and 5 years down the road, guess what? There will be a new crisis requiring the extention of the legislation. BHoward A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?
-Caveat Lector- Even given that the details you give may be correct June though, the fact that there is a time similarity between a solstice celebration and Christmas doesn't mean that there has been no history of Christmas celebrations over the last 2,000 years. The holiday was kept alive by its association with Christianity rather than the other way around. I really don't think that those who celebrate the Winter Holidays are calling themselves pagans because the time frame is there. (It would be an interesting twist...Communities can't publicly celebrate the Winter Holidays because of separation of state and grove.) The thread is titled Is this the end of Christmas in America? The answer is really no. In the same way that the holidays of Judaism are really irrelevant to the larger community, so it will be with the Christian holidays, believers in monotheistic religion becoming a rather quaint subset of the larger community. Communities are held together by shared rituals among other things. Winter Holidays is such a forced, shared ritual. In time we Jews will be asked why we aren't celebrating Winter Holidays with the rest of the community? What will our answer be? It certainly has been much easier for us to answer why we don't celebrate Christmas. Anyway, redefining how that day in December is to be celebrated is only one part of the ongoing change to irrelevance of the monotheistic religions to life in the New World Order. As Mortimer Adler wrote, the New World Order must have a culture in common, and Judaism, Christianity and Islam are not acceptable. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] PAKISTAN'S INTER-SERVICES INTELLIGENCE (ISI)
-Caveat Lector- PAKISTAN'S INTER-SERVICES INTELLIGENCE (ISI) by B. Raman The intelligence community of Pakistan, which was once described by the Frontier Post of Peshawar (May 18,1994) as its invisible government and by the Dawn of Karachi (April 25,1994) as our secret godfathers consists of the Intelligence Bureau (IB) and the ISI. While the IB comes under the Interior Minister, the ISI is part of the Ministry of Defence (MOD). Each wing of the Armed Forces has also its own intelligence directorate for tactical MI. The IB is the oldest dating from Pakistan's creation in 1947. It was formed by the division of the pre-partition IB of British India. Its unsatisfactory military intelligence (MI) performance in the first Indo-Pak war of 1947-48 over Jammu Kashmir (J K) led to the decision in 1948 to create the ISI, manned by officers from the three Services, to specialise in the collection, analysis and assessment of external intelligence, military and non-military, with the main focus on India. Initially, the ISI had no role in the collection of internal political intelligence except in Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (POK) and the Northern Areas (NA--Gilgit and Baltistan). Ayub Khan, suspecting the loyalty and objectivity of the Bengali police officers in the Subsidiary Intelligence Bureau (SIB) of the IB in Dacca, the capital of the then East Pakistan, entrusted the ISI with the responsibility for the collection of internal political intelligence in East Pakistan. Similarly, Z.A.Bhutto, when faced with a revolt by Balochi nationalists in Balochistan after the liberation of Bangladesh in 1971, suspected the loyalty of the Balochi police officers of the SIB in Quetta and made the military officers of the ISI responsible for internal intelligence in Balochistan. Zia-ul-Haq expanded the internal intelligence responsibilities of the ISI by making it responsible not only for the collection of intelligence about the activities of the Sindhi nationalist elements in Sindh and for monitoring the activities of Shia organisations all over the country after the success of the Iranian Revolution in 1979, but also for keeping surveillance on the leaders of the Pakistan People's Party (PPP) of Mrs.Benazir Bhutto and its allies which had started the Movement for the Restoration of Democracy (MRD) in the early 1980s. The ISI's Internal Political Division had Shah Nawaz Bhutto, one of the two brothers of Mrs.Benazir Bhutto, assassinated through poisoning in the French Riviera in the middle of 1985, in an attempt to intimidate her into not returning to Pakistan for directing the movement against Zia, but she refused to be intimidated and returned to Pakistan. Even in the 1950s, Ayub Khan had created in the ISI a Covert Action Division for assisting the insurgents in India's North-East and its role was expanded in the late 1960s to assist the Sikh Home Rule Movement of London-based Charan Singh Panchi, which was subsequently transformed into the so-called Khalistan Movement, headed by Jagjit Singh Chauhan. A myriad organisations operating amongst the members of the Sikh diaspora in Europe, the US and Canada joined the movement at the instigation and with the assistance of the ISI. During the Nixon Administration in the US, when Dr.Henry Kissinger was the National Security Adviser, the intelligence community of the US and the ISI worked in tandem in guiding and assisting the so-called Khalistan movement in the Punjab. The visits of prominent Sikh Home Rule personalities to the US before the Bangladesh Liberation War in December, 1971, to counter Indian allegations of violations of the human rights of the Bengalis of East Pakistan through counter-allegations of violations of the human rights of the Sikhs in Punjab were jointly orchestrated by the ISI, the US intelligence and some officials of the US National Security Council (NSC) Secretariat, then headed by Dr.Kissinger. This covert colloboration between the ISI and the US intelligence community was also directed at discrediting Mrs.Indira Gandhi's international stature by spreading disinformation about alleged naval base facilities granted by her to the USSR in Vizag and the Andaman Nicobar, the alleged attachment of KGB advisers to the then Lt.Gen.Sunderji during Operation Bluestar in the Golden Temple in Amritsar in June, 1984, and so on. This collaboration petered out after her assassination in October,1984. The Afghan war of the 1980s saw the enhancement of the covert action capabilities of the ISI by the CIA. A number of officers from the ISI's Covert Action Division received training in the US and many covert action experts of the CIA were attached to the ISI to guide it in its operations against the Soviet troops by using the Afghan Mujahideen, Islamic fundamentalists of Pakistan and Arab volunteers. Osama bin Laden, Mir Aimal Kansi, who assassinated two CIA officers outside their office in Langley, US, in 1993, Ramzi Yousef and his accomplices
Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Xxx Yyy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America? -Caveat Lector- Even given that the details you give may be correct June she *is* correct though, the fact that there is a time similarity between a solstice celebration and Christmas the similarity was deliberate- blending into the existing religion physically and spiritually and/or imposing the new. do you really think that it is a coincidence that the christian festival of crucifixian and ressurection occurs at the same time as the ancient spring festival of renewal and rebirth of the earth with the onset of spring? doesn't mean that there has been no history of Christmas celebrations over the last 2,000 years. what does this mean? The holiday was kept alive by its association with Christianity rather than the other way around this is a ridiculous arrogant statement to make. the celebration of the turn of winter works on a very basic, instinctive level. it is a festival that has reason to be always there. religions of all kinds will come and go but mid winter celebration, of whatever kind- relief even, will remain forever. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?
In a message dated 12/19/01 4:22:17 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is a ridiculous arrogant statement to make. the celebration of the turn of winter works on a very basic, instinctive level. it is a festival that has reason to be always there. religions of all kinds will come and go but mid winter celebration, of whatever kind- relief even, will remain forever. A festival formed at a basic instinctive level. Just how do you celebrate that in your home? And with what community do you share this festival? No need to get so defensive in your reply however.
[CTRL] WHO OWNS KASHMIR?
-Caveat Lector- http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/12/18/23937.html 19:30 2001-12-18 DMITRY LITVINOVICH: NUCLEAR GAMES OF INDIA AND PAKISTAN, OR WHO OWNS KASHMIR Another tension of relations between India and Pakistan can result in the fourth war between the two countries. The Indian authorities claimed a bit earlier, they had the information, proving that the terrorist groups Jaish-e-Mohammed and Lashkar-e-Toiba were involved in the attack on the parliament, which was carried out on December 13 (these two groups are based on Kashmirs territory, which is controlled by Pakistan). In this connection the Indian Foreign Ministry sent a note to Islamabad with a requirement to arrest the leaders of those groups and freeze the accounts of those organizations. The relations between Pakistan and India became more tense after the act of terrorism in Delhi, when twelve people died as a result. As the Frontier Post newspaper wrote, India charged Pakistan of supporting the Muslim militants from the mentioned extremist groups, which allegedly, like Delhi asserted, were behind the assault on the Indian parliament. The Indian authorities demanded the representative offices of those organizations should be closed within several days and the leaders of the Kashmir gunmen arrested. Islamabad in its turn is demanding India should prove those organizations are connected with the incident in Delhi. President Pervez Musharraf appeared on the national TV on Saturday and called upon India to abstain from the impulsive acts, which could lead to very serious consequences. Musharraf also condemned the act of terrorism in Delhi: We condemn terrorism and the acts of terrorism in any part of the world, the Pakistani president said. There is some information, which said that India deployed the additional army contingent in Kashmir and Pakistan ordered the border guards and the regular army to be all set and alert. Jammu Kashmir is a state in India. It is a large state and was ruled by a Maharaja (Indian King) in the past. Jammu Kashmir is made up of many regions but is called Jammu Kashmir because the two most populous regions in the state are called Jammu and Kashmir. This territory is basically populated by the Muslims 70% and 30% - the Hindus. The total square of the territory is about 222 thousand square kilometers, and one-third of this area is illegitimately occupied by Pakistan. There can be three stages of the conflict between India and Pakistan distinguished: 1947 1956 1965 1972 1984 1995 Nowadays the conflict is taking a new quality, since both of the countries publicly showed their nuclear weapon and demonstrated the determination to follow their plans and interests. The story of the first conflict is as follows. Great Britain granted independence to the British India in August of 1947, having divided it into India and Pakistan. 560 states got their freedom to join one of the new countries Pakistan decided to show pressure on Maharaja, who ruled Jammu and Kashmir with a goal to make him join his state to Pakistan. The vital deliveries were stopped for that, the state was totally isolated from the whole world. But the Maharaja did not yield. Then Pakistan organized and sent the hordes of nomadic tribes from the north-western border territory of Pakistan to plunder Jammu and Kashmir. The rioters were moving inland Baramullah the largest commercial center of the region. The following days were all filled with violence, they had no mercy for anyone. Of course that was not incidental, the absence of the British troops in the area, populated with the tribes, left those people without any means to survive. The Pakistani government feared, lest they should plunder Peshawar and other large cities of Pakistan. That is why they were told to move towards Kashmir, guaranteeing them generous gifts, if they steal and kill. The Pakistani authorities were hoping to gain the double profit from that: a possibility to get rid of the tribes and make Kashmir kneel over. Pakistan sent its spies to Jammu and Kashmir too so that they could destroy the bridges and put obstacles on the way of the Indian army, if the military men decide to get into the state. The irony of this situation is that the stealing and violence saved the state from Pakistans occupation. The gangs did not really want to go further inland the state, until they plundered everything and this gave time for a popular political party of Jammu and Kashmir to ask the Indian authorities for help. On October 27 the first contingent of the Indian army entered Jammu and Kashmir. In February of 1948 the UN Security Council acknowledged Jammu and Kashmirs annexation to India. The procedure of the state power arrangement was over in the state in November of 1956, when the Constitutional Assembly of the state passed the Constitution and ratified Jammu and Kashmirs membership in India. It seemed it was all over, but India did not wish to execute the
[CTRL] Pravda: ARAFATS FATE IS IN HAMAS ARMS
-Caveat Lector- http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/12/18/23854.html ARAFATS FATE IS IN HAMAS ARMS This Monday, Palestinian extremist organization Hamas declared it would continue its operations against Israel till the Israeli regime stops its occupation. This was reported by Lebanese radio referring to Hamas officials statement. According to RIA Novost, the extremist organization made this statement after Palestinian national administrations head, Yassir Arafat called his countrymen to stopping all armed actions against Israel. According to a Hamas official, his organization will not drift before the attacks and wait till its good behaviour is evaluated. This was Hamass reaction to Arafats speech: the Palestinian leader appeared in TV, addressing to dwellers of Palestinian territories, in cennexion with ending of Ramadan holy month. Arafat demanded from his countrymen to immediately stop all armed actions against Israel and to refuse from terrorist acts forever, especially from that with suicide terrorists. Any violation of this administrations decision will, according to Arafat, seriously punished. He also noticed that all citizens of the autonomy should support actions of the national administration. Arafat mentioned the emergency situation declared on the territory of the autonomy. We are intending to keep armistice, so we have declared militants to be out of the law. Israelis do not want to take it into consideration, Arafat said and promised to arrest everybody who prepares attacks with suicide terrorists. Arafat is a political long-liver in the Middle East, thought now he has a kind of dilemma. If extremist groups, like Hamas, do not stop their terrorist actions, Israel will understand Arafat does not control the situation, therefore Palestinians will be forced to give up their dream about independent state. Arafat understands that his political life and probably his physical life, too directly depend on the independent state Palestinians could have. Not in vain, he stressed the idea of the independent state in his TV speech. He said that Palestinian Liberation Organization and Palestinian national administration would fight for building an independent Palestinian state with the capital in Jerusalem. Therefore, while there is a small hope for the Palestinian independent state, Arafat is supported by most of Palestinians. Though Arafat understands that all the questions of Middle-Eastern settlement are solved somewhere else. His called Israel to again seat up at the negotiations table are really addressed to Western community with hope it would calm down Sharon. Though now, the policy of half measures Arafat has been carrying out does not work. Israel dreaming about annihilation of all radical extremist organizations decided to go to the very end. Sharon is backed by alarmed Israelis demanding not only to annihilate terrorists, but to finish with Palestinian national administration as well. And Sharon cannot neglect it. While Arafats words are only words, he earlier also used to say. Already many times, Arafat demanded from Palestinian militants to stop violation, though more and more victims still appeared. We are ready to help Arafat. Though he must either stop the terrorists, or prepare himself for he getting into bin Ladens company, Ranaan Gissin said. According to him, Israelis will not carry out any negotiations till the violation is not stopped. So, what will Yassir Arafat do further? To show to the whole world his words are supported with deeds, he must immediately arrest all Hamas leaders. Though, does he possess enough political will for it? Especially taking into account that Hamas has many times threatened with declaring Arafat Palestinian peoples enemy, sold himself to the US. A difficult choice lies before Arafat. He could lose everything in one moment. Dmitry Litvinovich __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A
Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?
- Original Message - From: Xxx Yyy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America? A festival formed at a basic instinctive level. Just how do you celebrate that in your home? And with what community do you share this festival? the cause for celebration is at a basic instinctive level. how you celebrate it i will leave to your own judgement. sacrifice something for all i care. your god perhaps. oh sorry- that's the whole point isn't it? or is that the other one, easter. oh yeah it is, cause that's when you remember that it was your sins that killed him. your sins.
Re: [CTRL] Coking Out in Fluoridia
-Caveat Lector- --- Euphorian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- From http://www.news-press.com/news/today/011215witches.html }}}Begin Witches plan nude February celebration of Wicca By MARK S. KRZOS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Naked witches plan to celebrate their religion in Bonita Springs in February. conspiracy to go naked...i sure hope jzus comes soon!!! what if i end up seeing a breast?!? __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?
In a message dated 12/19/01 4:56:25 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A festival formed at a basic instinctive level. Just how do you celebrate that in your home? And with what community do you share this festival? the cause for celebration is at a basic instinctive level. how you celebrate it i will leave to your own judgement. sacrifice something for all i care. your god perhaps. oh sorry- that's the whole point isn't it? or is that the other one, easter. oh yeah it is, cause that's when you remember that it was your sins that killed him. your sins. As I stated that I am Jewish, are you implying it was because of the sins of the Jews that the crucifixion took place (not very nice on your part) or is it that you don't read carefully? As I don't have a basic instinct to have solstice celebrations, I guess I don't have to make those kind of arrangements. Thank heavens. Dancing skyclad in a grove in this kind of weather is hard on the bones.
[CTRL] Al-Qaida Fighters Try to Escape Guards
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Al-Qaida Fighters Try to Escape Guards At Least 13 Killed in Clash Along Pakistan Border By RIAZ KHAN .c The Associated Press PESHAWAR, Pakistan (Dec. 19) - Dozens of fighters from Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida group, arrested as they crossed the border from Afghanistan, rose up against their Pakistani guards Wednesday, seized weapons and escaped. Seven al-Qaida fighters and six police were killed, officials said. After a brief and bloody gunbattle in the morning, Pakistani tribal forces and army helicopter gunships pursued the fugitives, capturing 21. As night fell, they were searching for 20 more in the mountainous border region, officials said. The al-Qaida fighters - mostly Arabs - were from among 156 arrested over the past two days as they came across the border, the government of Northwest Frontier Province said in a statement. Just on the other side of the frontier, Afghan forces backed by U.S. airstrikes drove al-Qaida followers from their mountain base in Tora Bora in recent days, sending many fleeing into Pakistan. Hundreds of al-Qaida - including some top commanders - were allowed to escape by commanders in the Afghan eastern alliance that led the assault on Tora Bora, an alliance official said. Two alliance commanders have been rebuked for conniving to let bin Laden followers flee into Pakistan, the official said. In Tora Bora, the search continued for remaining al-Qaida members or clues to the whereabouts of bin Laden. U.S. helicopters ran night missions through the mountain valleys, while Afghan fighters brought more prisoners and documents from a sweep of snow-laden cave hide-outs. The prisoner revolt took place near the northwestern Pakistani town of Parachinar. The prisoners, held in the town overnight, were being transferred in a convoy of buses and trucks to a larger facility, the provincial government said. ''One of the Arabs shouted 'Allahu Akbar!' (Arabic for ''God is great'') and with that slogan, the others attacked,'' bus driver Rehman Ali told The Associated Press. He said they seized guns from the six guards on the bus and shot them dead. Three prisoners were killed in the struggle. Ali said the prisoners tried to drive the bus away, but lost control and it overturned. The fighters poured out and engaged security guards from the other buses in a firefight, he said. Three more prisoners were killed and one was wounded, and seven police were wounded, he said. The provincial government said a total of seven Arabs and six security officials were killed. Their reports could not be reconciled. The government said 48 al-Qaida men were on the bus. Tribal security officials and soldiers went after them, using ground troops and helicopter gunships, catching 21, and throwing a security cordon over the area to search for the rest, the provincial government said. Last month, al-Qaida forces in northern Afghanistan revolted the day after their capture, sparking a three-day battle at the fortress near Mazar-e-Sharif where they were being held. A CIA operative, Johnny ''Mike'' Spann was killed, as were dozens of guards and hundreds of prisoners. Pakistan has poured helicopters and thousands of soldiers into the tribal areas along the border and set up 300 checkpoints to cut off escape routes from Tora Bora. Pakistan earlier said it had arrested at least 108 fighters fleeing the area, including at least 60 Arabs and other non-Afghans. Britain announced that it had offered to the United Nations to lead a multinational peacekeeping force in Afghanistan and to commit 1,500 troops. Defense Secretary Geoff Hoon told Parliament that the exact composition of the force - which could number 3,000-5,000 troops - will be resolved in the coming days. A vanguard of 200 British soldiers could move from Bagram airport to the Afghan capital, Kabul, in time for Saturday's inauguration of a six-month interim government. The U.N. Security Council was poised to approve the force, possibly by Thursday, after key council members agreed the troops would be authorized to use military force if necessary. The appointed Afghan leader, Hamid Karzai, said Wednesday bin Laden should be turned over international justice, if caught - a call echoed by the top U.N. war crimes prosecutor. But the United States insisted it must try the man wanted for the Sept. 11 terror attacks. ''A man like that who has committed crimes worldwide must be given to international justice,'' Karzai said in Rome after receiving the blessing of the 87-year-old former Afghan King Mohammad Zaher Shah. In Tora Bora, the whereabouts of bin Laden remained a mystery, as the capture of more of his followers brought new rumors. An Afghan alliance commander said a few non-Afghan fighters were captured overnight without resistance, and more stragglers were expected to surrender as the weather turns colder and the snow deepens. Some captives ''are
[CTRL] Microchip id on way
-Caveat Lector- from - http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_477554.html Microchip id on way A US company says it has developed a microchip identity card which can be implanted under the skin. The tiny electronic chip can carry information on a person's identity or medical needs. It can also be used in combination with global position system (GPS) technology to track down kidnap victims. The first chips are to go on sale in South America within three months and the company, Florida-based Applied Digital Solutions, expects to have permission to fit the systems in the US within six months. The chips are so small they are put under the skin using a surgical needle and read by scanners which pick up the radio waves they emit and translate the information they contain. And today experts predicted they could be used to replace car keys and credit cards within 10 years. The chips can contain up to 60 separate pieces of information and Applied Digital Solutions intends to sell them to people with artificial limbs and organs, the Los Angeles Times reports. Doctors treating patients will scan them for the chip, which would warn them about the presence of artificial limbs or organs to avoid treatments which could be harmful. The system has been tested by Richard Seelig, a consultant surgeon from New Jersey, who injected himself with two chips, one in his left arm and one beside his artificial hip. Story filed: 17:37 Wednesday 19th December 2001 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Gay ban garners Scouts $200,000
-Caveat Lector- http://sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-cscouts18dec18.story?coll= sfla%2Dnews%2Dfront WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Gay ban garners Scouts $200,000 By Megan O'Matz Staff Writer Posted December 18 2001 A South Florida couple has donated $200,000 to the South Florida Council of the Boy Scouts of America, in a show of support for the Scouts' prohibition against gay leaders and members, according to the Scouts' Web site. The gift is the single largest donation designated for operating expenses in the history of the council, said Scout Executive Jeffrie Herrmann. The couple made the contribution in September, but the council did not widely publicize the information because the donors asked to remain anonymous, Herrmann said. The council's Web site, www.sfcbsa.org, however, describes the pair as longtime admirers of scouting who were deeply disappointed at the treatment the Boy Scouts received from county and municipal governments, local school districts, the United Way of Broward County, and from some corporate contributors. The Scouts lost funding and resources from a wide array of public agencies and private organizations after the U.S. Supreme Court in June 2000 upheld the Scouts' ban on gays. The Web site notes that the donors are appreciative that the South Florida council has not backed down on its commitment to the BSA's membership standards and that the council leadership has acted strong and Scout-like in dealing with Scouting's detractors. At the donors' request, the council issued a challenge to the community, asking individuals to contribute an additional $200,000 in matching funds. Herrmann said the council has raised about $100,000 in the effort. The Boy Scout council lost thousands of dollars after the Supreme Court decision, as local governments, including Broward County and the city of Fort Lauderdale, withheld grants to the organization, citing nondiscrimination policies. Scouts take an oath to be morally straight and do not accept avowed homosexuals as members or leaders. The Scouts were not included in this year's Broward County United Way campaign, because the United Way now requires its member agencies to sign agreements pledging to refrain from discriminating against people based on sexual orientation. The council typically received between $128,000 and $175,000 in aid from the United Way. Herrmann said the Scouts, like other nonprofit agencies, have experienced added financial setbacks because of the economic downturn and a decline in local charitable contributions after the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington. The fall has been a difficult time for us in fund-raising since the tragedies of Sept. 11, he said. He estimated the reaction to the Scouts' policies and the events of Sept. 11 resulted in a $500,000 loss in operating revenue this fiscal year. We're trying to avoid a deficit, he said. We're cutting back. We have vacancies that have not been filled. ... And we've had some programmatic cutbacks. Herrmann said the $200,000 gift will be used for general operating expenses, including camp programs, recruitment and activities designed to help boys advance through the Scouting ranks. The South Florida Council serves 21,000 children in Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts in Monroe, Broward and Miami-Dade counties. It has an annual general operating budget of $3.5 million. Megan O'Matz can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 954-356-4518. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A
[CTRL] Would Hamas strike U.S. targets?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25756 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! STRATFOR GLOBAL INTELLIGENCE UPDATE Would Hamas strike U.S. targets? Iran-backed group might attack to derail negotiated peace -- -- Editor's note: In partnership with Stratfor, the global intelligence company, WorldNetDaily publishes daily updates on international affairs provided by the respected private research and analysis firm. Look for fresh updates each afternoon, Monday through Friday. In addition, WorldNetDaily invites you to consider STRATFOR membership, entitling you to a wealth of international intelligence reports usually available only to top executives, scholars, academic institutions and press agencies. © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com Former Iranian president Hashemi Rafsanjani has warned that Palestinian suicide bombers might attack American targets. Such an operation is within the reach of extremist groups such as Hamas and would likely end any prospect for a negotiated peace settlement in Israel. Speaking to crowds rallying on Jerusalem Day, a Dec. 14 event marking the importance of Jerusalem to Islam, former Iranian President Hashemi Rafsanjani warned that Palestinian suicide bombers might target U.S. assets. Rafsanjani warned of a day when exhausted Palestinians, embracing martyrdom, decide to hit (American) vital interests all over the world, Agence France-Presse reported. Rafsanjani's statement was unspecific, but it is noteworthy, given Iran's close links with radical Palestinian groups such as Hamas. Palestinian groups rarely have targeted American facilities or personnel despite U.S. ties with Israel. Instead Palestinians have attempted to curry U.S. favor in hopes that Washington would pressure the Israeli government into a peace deal. But the political landscape has changed dramatically since Sept. 11, and radical groups may in fact have much to gain by attacking U.S. assets. Strikes on U.S. targets would obliterate Washington's support for Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat, who Hamas sees as an obstacle to its ambitions for a Palestinian state based on Islamic law. And a tough U.S.-Israeli response would likely sink any chances for an Israeli-Palestinian settlement. Rafsanjani's warning was ominous, though whether it was based on logical conjecture or solid intelligence remains unclear. In either case, it should be taken seriously. Rafsanjani has been playing Middle Eastern politics for decades and could very well be reading the tea leaves. He also continues to hold an extremely high position in the Iranian government and may be aware of plans for a Hamas operation. Iran has been involved with Hamas since 1993, when the group opened an office in Tehran. According to the U.S. State Department, Tehran usually provides Hamas with about $3 million a year, but has hiked this year's funding to nearly $18 million, The (London) Sunday Telegraph reported recently. In either case, Rafsanjani's speech gives his country an excuse if Hamas actually does launch an attack. Iran would very likely face U.S. wrath after a Hamas strike; at least now Tehran could say that Washington was warned. But would Hamas attack a U.S. target? This might appear suicidal in light of the Taliban's fate in Afghanistan. But an examination of the costs and benefits for Hamas suggests the idea isn't as far-fetched as it may seem. A fresh attack on U.S. assets by a designated terrorist group would most assuredly incite Washington's rage. But how would the United States respond? Israel would not allow Washington to send planes and cruise missiles to attack Hamas in the West Bank and Gaza. But Washington could share intelligence on Hamas with Israel. And it could cut off the group's funding from the United States. But the first is a weak card: Washington has relatively little intelligence that Tel Aviv does not have already. And the second card already has been played: Earlier this month Washington shut down the Holy Land Foundation, which it claims is the largest source of Hamas' U.S. funding. Hamas, however, would gain quite a bit by attacking Americans. Right now, the government of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is focused on destroying Arafat's ability to lead the Palestinians â a goal Hamas also seeks. Arafat's political career is based on compromises and deal-making, which both hard-line Israelis like Sharon and hard-line Palestinian groups like Hamas deplore. Moreover, Hamas' biggest fear is probably that the United States will alter its policy in a few months and rein in Israeli military operations in the West Bank and Gaza. American deaths from a Hamas attack would ensure U.S. support for the Sharon government's aggressive military policies. Where could Hamas strike? The group has limited operations â mostly restricted to fundraising,
[CTRL] Bin Laden could be dead, says US
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_476692.html?menu=news.latestheadlines How did I know they would say something like this! -- Bill WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Bin Laden could be dead, says US A top defence official says Osama bin Laden could be dead. The US Deputy Secretary of Defence says the body of bin Laden could be lying in one of the caves at Tora Bora. His comment comes after tribal Afghan fighters withdrew artillery and heavy weapons from the area, signalling the worst of the fighting was over. Paul Wolfowitz said: I think it's possible he (bin Laden) could be dead in the bottom of one of them (caves). Hazrat Ali, one of the tribal eastern alliance commanders, was quoted by the Afghan Islamic Press agency as saying there was no information that more al-Qaida fighters remained in the caves. US special forces are expected to comb the caves looking for stragglers and sifting through piles of abandoned documents, passports and other evidence left behind in the hasty retreat. Marine General Peter Pace, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has refused to estimate how long the search will take: It's going to be step by step, cave by cave. Mohammed Aman Khiari, another commander, said he doubted bin Laden was still in the area - if he had been there at all. If Osama is here, they would be fighting us, but in this case I don't think Osama is in Tora Bora because they are not fighting. Now maybe he has gone somewhere else, or maybe he is dead, Mr Khiari told reporters. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Somalia Is Next, German Official Says
-Caveat Lector- http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41163,00.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Somalia Is Next, German Official Says Wednesday, December 19, 2001 Email this Article BRUSSELS, Belgium â The United States has decided to take its fight against Usama bin Laden's terror network to Somalia, a senior German official said early Wednesday. The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said there was no longer a question of whether to go after Al Qaeda terrorists in the east African nation, but only when and how. At NATO headquarters in Brussels, Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, said: We are not going to speculate on any next operation. When pressed, he added: Countries that harbor terrorists worry us. Somalia is one potential country, but there are others as well. At Tuesday's meeting of NATO defense ministers, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld mentioned Yemen and Sudan as countries suspected of supporting terrorism. And in Yemen that day, Yemeni forces trained and equipped with U.S. funds engaged armed tribesmen in a bid to capture suspected Al Qaeda members, government officials and tribal sources said. Tanks, helicopters and artillery pounded mountain villages and hillsides in what appeared to be the most serious military operation yet in an Arab country in search of suspects allegedly connected to Al Qaeda. Earlier this month, nine people identified by aid workers and a regional security official as Americans visited a town in western Somalia, where they met with local faction leaders and Ethiopian military officers. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the Americans met with leaders of the Rahanwein Resistance Army, a clan-based faction opposed to Somalia's fledgling transitional government and with Mohamed Saeed Hirsi, the leader of an Ethiopian-backed faction also opposed to the government. U.S. officials have said the United States is concerned Somalia's lack of central authority makes it an attractive base for terrorists. Iraq also has been identified by President Bush and other senior administration officials as a potential U.S. target. At various times, Somalia has been mentioned, along with the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Tajikstan and Uzbekistan, by Bush administration officials as countries with terrorism problems. Several African countries called on the United States to avoid military action in Somalia and cooperate with the transitional government, which has expressed readiness to get rid of any terrorist camps if it was proved they existed on Somali lands. Their joint statement, issued in Cairo by the Sudanese Embassy, was from the Inter-Governmental Authority on Development, a grouping of east African nations, and the 15-nation Group of Sahel and Sahara States. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Egypt destroys new Coptic church
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25753 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Egypt destroys new Coptic church Police help demolish building hours after 1st prayer meeting -- -- © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com The U.S. Copts Association says Egyptian officials outside of Cairo destroyed a newly built Coptic church just hours after it opened its doors and held its first prayer meeting. The church had reportedly obtained all the proper permissions from President Hosni Mubarak's administration to build the facility in Al-Ubor city. Police forces reportedly participated in the destruction. The first building opened Saturday. The first prayer meeting was held Sunday. According to a statement by the association, Galal Sayed Al-Ahl, the mayor of the city, had been threatening the congregation during the building of the church's gate. Hours after the congregation finished its first prayer meeting, Al-Ahl and his local police forces stormed the church, arresting 10 members of the Coptic community and flattened what was built of the church. This is not the first time Mubarak has issued permission to build a church only to allow it to be destroyed by local government officials who report to him, according to the association. It seems that there is an unspoken deal between higher government officials and the local officials when it comes to church construction in Egypt, said association President Michael Meunier. Under international scrutiny, the Egyptian government issues limited number of new permits for church construction, but it gives all incentives to its local officials to stop the construction. The association is calling on the Mubarak regime to conduct an investigation. It says in prior church-destruction incidents, no officials have been punished and the churches have been forced to bear the cost of rebuilding. -- -- *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Do terrorists have U.S. cruise missiles?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25742 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! FROM DEBKA INTELLIGENCE FILES Do terrorists have U.S. cruise missiles? Rumsfeld raises ugly specter of threat from unexploded warheads -- -- Editor's note: DEBKAfile's electronic news publication is a news-cum-analysis live wire, online round the clock seven days a week. A weekly edition,DEBKA-Net-Weekly, is now available through WorldNetDaily.com. Drawing on DEBKAfile's unique sources, analytical talents and forward-looking insights, it is presented as a compact, intelligence-angled weekly package. It is available as a direct e-mail feed or via the Internet. © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld today raised the possibility that terrorists associated with Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida have access to cruise missiles capable of hitting the U.S. or Europe. Cruise missiles are complex weapons designed for low-flying strikes passing through tree branches and capable of sneaking past most American advance warning and detection devices. Their computers can also be pre-programmed for their targets with maps or guided by satellite. Rumsfeld suggested that terrorists possess cruise missiles capable of hitting big cities in the West. An additional danger comes from their warheads, which can be either conventional â no more than 130 kilos â or non-conventional, meaning small but capable of mass destruction like a neutron bomb. Some cruise missiles are also capable of delivering multiple warheads. Military sources point out that the only countries with cruise missiles are the United States, France, Israel and China. Russia possesses a low-grade type, while Britain and Germany have acquired American products. If bin Laden has cruise or ballistic missiles, he either stole them or bought them for exorbitant sums. Military experts say they could be hidden either in Afghanistan or in one of the Central Asian former Soviet republics. It is also possible, they say, that, when the United States attacked bin Laden's Afghanistan bases in August 1998 â in reprisal for the East African embassy atrocities â al-Qaida gathered the unexploded missiles. In that raid, 70 missiles were reportedly fired, some cruise missiles, and only 30 exploded. To fire them at a European city, the terrorists could do without satellite-guidance; the targets are large enough and close enough for them to shoot blind. The U.S. defense secretary did not specify which type of missile he meant, but military sources believe his stark warning in Brussels may have been influenced by the fresh information he received during his Caspian tour and Afghanistan. At the U.S. base in Bagram, he must have been told of the evidence U.S. intelligence officers turned up, possibly in Kandahar, attesting to bin Laden's nuclear, chemical and biological capabilities and the missiles that were in his possession. Last week, a very senior Israeli officer spoke of a terrorist attack on Israel from overseas, a broad hint at missiles. Signs are mounting meanwhile that the United States is moving ahead with preparations for war against Iraq. Former Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, speaking in Herzliya today, urged the Israeli government to hurry up and prepare to protect the population against a mass attack from Iraq in retaliation for an American offensive, which he believed was coming soon. Meanwhile, Rumsfeld, addressing a private NATO defense ministers meeting in Brussels straight from Kabul, spoke graphically of the continuing terror threat. As we look at the devastation they unleashed on the U.S., contemplate the destruction they could wreak in New York or London or Paris or Berlin with nuclear, chemical or biological weapons, he told his 19 colleagues. The world remains a dangerous place. ⦠Western democracies must be ready to defend themselves, and each other, if we are to secure our freedom in the tumultuous decades ahead. He noted that Afghanistan is not the only country where terrorists operate and al-Qaida is not the only terrorist network, repeating President Bush's statement that countries which harbor terrorists will be held to account. It should be of particular concern to all of us that the list of countries which today support global terrorism overlaps significantly with the list of countries that have weaponized chemical and biological agents and which are seeking nuclear, chemical and biological weapons â and the means to deliver them. Rumsfeld told fellow ministers that now is the time â while Sept. 11 is still fresh in the minds of people everywhere â to increase defense spending. The text of the Rumsfeld address was circulated to reporters in Brussels, just as U.S. Homeland Security Office spokesman Gordon Johndroe announced in Washington: The alert remains
[CTRL] Violence in Ambon as Indonesia Boosts Security
-Caveat Lector- http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011219/wl/indonesia_dc_2.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Wednesday December 19 5:07 AM ET Violence in Ambon as Indonesia Boosts Security By Grace Nirang JAKARTA (Reuters) - Gunmen shot dead nine Christians in Indonesia's eastern Ambon city Wednesday and police said they could not rule out the possibility of unrest erupting elsewhere during next week's Christmas celebrations. Indonesia has vowed to impose tight security at all places of worship around December 25 to prevent a repeat of the bomb blasts near churches last Christmas Eve across the world's most populous Muslim country that killed 19 people. Police spokesman Saleh Saaf said security authorities were trying to calm sectarian tensions in places such as Ambon in the Moluccas islands, where gunmen armed with automatic rifles killed the nine Christians traveling in a boat just after dawn. Police snipers would be deployed in some places over Christmas, Saaf added, without giving details. In Jakarta alone, police have deployed 15,000 personnel to safeguard the capital during Christmas and into the New Year. ``Based on our intelligence reports, the possibility is wide open that unrest provoked by certain groups or outsiders could occur during the Christmas period,'' Saaf told Reuters. ``In conflict areas we are trying to prevent such outsiders from entering the area and provoking people.'' Saaf declined to elaborate on what the intelligence reports showed or name the outside groups, but Christians have recently accused Muslim militants of the Laskar Jihad organization of stirring up trouble in Central Sulawesi province. In an encouraging sign for the embattled government of President Megawati Sukarnoputri, there was no sectarian violence during Muslim celebrations at the weekend marking the end of the fasting month of Ramadan. SNIPERS ON PATROL Megawati has pledged to bring peace to volatile Indonesia as it stumbles toward democracy but analysts have accused a series of central governments, transfixed by political battles in Jakarta, of failing to put enough effort into restoring security. The fall of long-time autocrat Suharto (news - web sites) in 1998 has also eroded the power of officials in Jakarta. Asked if snipers would patrol over Christmas, Saaf said: ``Yes, they will be.'' Speaking from Ambon, local police spokesman Marthens Alfons said besides those killed, two were wounded when unidentified gunmen pulled their own speedboat close to the victims' craft on waters near the coastal city, a key hub in the Moluccas. Alfons said marines tried to catch the gunmen, but they escaped. Ambon and other parts of the Moluccas have been plagued by clashes between Muslims and Christians since early 1999 that have left thousands dead and forced many more to flee the region. ``The victims were Christians, who were mostly merchants traveling to buy goods such as meat, fish and vegetables at a morning market in Ambon to be sold again in their areas,'' Alfons said by telephone, 2,300 km (1,440 miles) east of Jakarta. The fresh violence in Ambon followed clashes late last month in another Muslim-Christian trouble spot around the town of Poso in Central Sulawesi, also in the country's east. Both areas had been relatively peaceful for months until recently. HOPE FOR POSO PEACE TALKS Three days of peace talks involving the warring sides in Poso began Wednesday aimed at curbing violence that has killed more than 1,000 people in the past three years. Peace talks to end mayhem around Poso have taken place four times without encouraging results. But the latest talks appear the most comprehensive attempt so far to resolve bloodshed that underscores the tensions hobbling Indonesia's outer reaches. Local media reported the parties had agreed to discuss issues such as the pullout of groups such as Laskar Jihad, whose members have been fighting Christians in the Moluccas since last year. One Laskar Jihad leader told reporters that hundreds of members had been sent to Poso in recent weeks to join others already there, ostensibly to help Muslims that are attacked. Poso police said there were no reports of any fresh arrivals. Analysts have said Laskar Jihad could exploit poor law enforcement in areas such as the Moluccas and Poso but have played down fears they might spark serious religious violence in key parts of Indonesia such as the main Java island. Some of Indonesia's eastern areas have roughly equal numbers of Muslims and Christians. Hoping to calm separatist tension elsewhere in Indonesia's east, Megawati will travel to the remote and largely Christian province of Papua, formerly Irian Jaya, Saturday. Megawati's visit is primarily aimed at publicizing a special autonomy package for Papua that has been passed by parliament but rejected by the main pro-independence group there. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C
[CTRL] New bone marrow stem-cell discovery
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25741 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! New bone marrow stem-cell discovery Transplant procedure results in no rejection by recipient -- -- By Jon Dougherty © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com Canadian researchers have discovered a type of adult stem cell found in bone marrow that they believe could repair damaged organs and tissue when transplanted, with no chance of being rejected by a recipient's immune system. The stem cells, called mesenchymal stem cells, or MSCs, don't carry markers on their surfaces that lead to rejection, according to a December report in the magazine New Scientist. Researchers have been trying to perfect cloned stem cells as a way to overcome the rejection problem but have been unsuccessful. Ray Chiu of McGill University in Montreal said he even was able to transplant MSCs from pigs to rats, adding that the cells only seemed to migrate towards damaged tissues once injected. They turned into heart muscle, blood vessels and fibrous tissue, he said. Abortion foes say if research holds up regarding the potential of MSCs, there could be no further need to pursue the controversial technique of harvesting stem cells from embryonic tissues. The new research does go against our common understanding of the immune system, said Annemarie Moseley of Osiris Therapeutics in Baltimore. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] President Saddam Hussein address call to Brother Arabs
-Caveat Lector- http://www.uruklink.net/iraqnews/enews1.htm WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! President Saddam Hussein address call to Brother Arabs: regimes, governments and people In the name of Allah, the Merciful, be Compassionate Your majesties, highnesses, and excellencies, Brother Arabs: regimes, governments and people, Peace be upon you! I address you this time in the name of the leadership and people of Iraq directly. It is a brotherly call addressed to you after the flood has reached its climax and after the destruction, terror, murder and sacrilege practised by the aggressive, terrorist and criminal Zionist entity, together with its tyrannical ally, the US, have come to a head against our brothers and our faithful struggling people in plundered Palestine. If evil achieves its objectives there, Allah forbid, its gluttony for more will increase and it will afflict our people and other parts of our wide homeland too, in addition to the suffering that has been and is still being inflicted upon the people of Palestine. Therefore, brothers, I address this message to you as a specific call for the sake of Palestine and, through Palestine and its Holy Quds, for the sake of us all and, through our nation, for the sake of all humanity, which is afflicted with the tyranny of the evil American-Zionist alliance. Brothers, When we address this call to you, we do not set out of imagination but out of a deep faith in, and a full understanding of the heritage of our nation and its glorious history. This history reveals that our nation, even under the most complicated and the hardest circumstances, has always found its way when its potential and resolution have been mobilized. No matter how heavy misfortunes weigh on our nation, or how dark the veils of night hang down on it, it has been able, when following the right path, to light candles on both sides of the road to guide it towards its choice and its objectives. We, brothers, seek for Allahâs reward and seek for honour in this life and the next. We seek for them with you and through our gathering and our joint action, and not apart from you, unless we find ourselves compelled to act, each according to the stand, which suits his viewpoint and belief. Therefore, and although we are aware of the circumstances involving the bearers of official titles in the nation and their capabilities, we have a great hope in you, brothers, to mobilize resolution so that we win jointly and not individually, Allahâs favour and the favour of our nation and humanity at large. If any of us, within the boundaries of his country and on the basis of the peculiarity of his sphere and his capability, sees that the troubles he has are a burden too heavy for him to carry, it is with solidarity, joint force and joint action that these troubles and others become lighter in weight. Group resolution, or the resolution generated by the sense of solidarity or joint action, will make them easier to carry and will make the shoulders stronger and more capable of endurance and steadfastness. That is because Allahâs Hand is with the group that has faith in Him and that trusts in Him, glorified be His name. Whoever supports right against wrong will receive Allahâs support in this life and His honour and best reward in the next. We do not want to burden you, brothers, with the details and remind you of what is happening to our faithful people who are being afflicted with the evil of the US-supported Zionists. What is happening to our people and our brothers there is clear enough even if we only see it on television. Arabs, Many of those who held titles of responsibility amongst us and, perhaps, many in certain circles among the Arab nation used to blame the Palestinians. They claimed that the Palestinians did not resist the Zionist occupation, as they should have from the year 1930 to the defeat of some Arab regimes in the year 1948 and afterwards. But what can any just and indubitable person say now about the stand of the heroic people of Palestine, men and women, children, youths and old men? The stand of the heroic people of Palestine, who are now facing alone the alliance and conspiracy of Zionism and Imperialism, which were originally designed for the whole nation, is set against the stand nearing impotency on the Arab side. In all cases, the reason for this impotency is not the weakness of the potential of the nation or the will of the people. It is, rather, the weakness of the will of the decision makers or their unwillingness to shoulder their responsibility with the honour, the patriotism and the life buoy to carry all to the shore of safety. It is painful to see how they have abandoned the simplest rights and principles of pan-Arabism and the meanings of faith entrusted to our titles and the titles of others by the heritage of our immortal nation. They have abandoned all the meanings which make our nation one nation,
[CTRL] India Government Considering War
-Caveat Lector- http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41148,00.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! India Government Considering War AP Indian Prime Minsiter Atal Bihari Vajpayee Wednesday, December 19, 2001 Respond to Editor Email this Article NEW DELHI, India â India is considering declaring war on Pakistan in response to last week's attack on its Parliament, the country's prime minister said Wednesday. Atal Bihari Vajpayee is also considering diplomacy as means of dealing with its rival neighbor, whose militants he blames for the suicide raid. Vajpayee told India's Parliament that Pakistani officials know there are forces within Pakistan that are taking part in terrorism in India. He repeated India's demand that it crack down on them. We are trying to address this diplomatically, but other options are also open, too, Vajpayee said during a debate over Thursday's assault on the legislative compound that left 13 people dead, including the attackers. India says all five attackers were Pakistanis and that the neighboring country's intelligence service sponsored the attack. Pakistan has denied the charge. Home Minister Lal K. Advani said India's government was consulting with the army and political parties to determine how to respond. A well thought-out action does not mean it will not be tough, Advani said. This is not a fight between Hindus and Muslims. It is a fight between a civilized world and noncivilized, barbaric people. If such attacks continue there cannot be peace between India and Pakistan, he added, as Parliament adjourned until next year. Both nuclear-armed nations' armies are reported to be on alert. Meanwhile, the Indian army said it engaged in heavy firing on Pakistani border outposts and bunkers Wednesday and both sides were exchanging gunfire on the Jammu-Kashmir frontier. An Indian army spokesman said soldiers had fired across the border on Tuesday night to retaliate against Pakistani firing, which was allegedly aimed at covering for Islamic militant infiltrators. Pakistan says it supports the cause of the militants â to separate Kashmir from India â but denies it gives them material aid. Border firing is common, with each side accusing the other of starting it. Since their division into separate nations after British independence in 1947, Islamic Pakistan and Hindu-majority India have fought three wars, two of them over their competing claims to the Himalayan region of mostly Muslim Kashmir. In response to a U.S. call for restraint from both sides as Washington seeks their help in the global war on terrorism, Vajpayee said, We have reached the pinnacle of restraint.'' When President Bush telephoned to express condolences after the Parliament attack, Vajpayee said, I told him that the terrorists were linked to Pakistan, were under the control of Pakistan and working at the behest of Pakistan. AP White House press secretary Ari Fleischer On Tuesday, White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said India had a legitimate right to self-defense, but that the attack on its legislature is not a reason for India or Pakistan to take action against each other. India has demanded that Pakistan halt all activities by two Islamic militant groups, Lashkar-e-Tayyaba and Jaish-e-Mohammed, arrest their leaders and freeze their assets. New Delhi said the two groups, with the support of Pakistan's intelligence service, planned and carried out the assault on Parliament. The question is not whether there should be a war or not, Vajpayee said. The question to be debated is in what circumstances there could be a war. Pakistan has accused India of blaming it for the suicide assault as a way of avoiding talks over the disputed Kashmir region which has bedeviled relations between the South Asian neighbors for five decades. Pakistani officials have said they would participate in an impartial investigation, but would take no action without proof. Vajpayee called the demand for a joint investigation ridiculous. What proof do we need? Vajpayee said. The bullet marks on the Parliament walls, the bodies of the terrorists, who were Pakistani nationals, this is the proof by itself. Vajpayee has said all parties would be consulted about what action to take in response to the attack. When we have to decide about war or peace, we have to be patient, he said. We have to have all options and their pros and cons weighed before coming to any conclusion. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A
[CTRL] Congress Poised to Protect Troops From 'Bogus' International Trials
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/12/19/161533.shtml WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Congress Poised to Protect Troops From 'Bogus' International Trials John Rossomando, CNSNews.com Thursday, Dec. 20, 2001 A U.N.-sponsored treaty, designed to authorize the trial of war criminals, needs the ratification of only 13 more nations before taking effect. But, even before that happens, Congress appears poised to block the treaty's jurisdiction over members of the U.S. military. Sen. Jesse Helms, R-N.C., fears the United Nations' International Criminal Court (ICC) would allow Americans to be subject to bogus, politicized prosecutions on foreign soil, stripping them of their rights under the U.S. Constitution. Helms' American Service Members Protection Act would restrict U.S. cooperation with the court, and would cut off foreign aid to any country that ratifies the ... treaty, according to Senate Foreign Relations Committee spokesman Lester Munson. Earlier this month, the Senate voted 78-21 to attach a modified version of Helms' legislation to the Defense Department appropriations bill. Congressional conferees are now trying to reconcile the Senate and House versions of the defense bill. Long Arm of the U.N. And, there is a new sense of urgency because 47 nations have already ratified the treaty. Under terms of the treaty, negotiated in Rome in 1998, once 60 countries have approved the pact, it will automatically take effect and allow the U.N. to claim jurisdiction even over countries that have chosen not to ratify. Although not ratified by the U.S., former President Bill Clinton did sign the treaty last year. The International Criminal Court would claim jurisdiction over U.S. troops even if the United States doesn't ratify the treaty. That is a key fact that a lot of people do not understand, Munson said. According to Munson, if an indicted American service member were arrested in a country that had ratified the treaty, that service member could be tried before the ICC. Attack on U.S. Freedom What it really does is have a chilling effect upon the freedom of Americans, Munson said. This court will have all sorts of unchecked jurisdictions and that is one of the fundamental problems with the treaty and with the court. The ICC would be composed of 18 judges serving nine-year terms and selected by nations that have ratified the treaty. Helms and other conservatives fear those judges might be selected from Cuba, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria and other nations hostile to the United States. They are also concerned that American troops currently dropping bombs on Afghanistan might be subject to ICC prosecution for the inadvertent deaths of civilians. Coalition for the International Criminal Court contends the ICC would not pose a threat to American freedoms and sovereignty because the court's statute limits its jurisdiction to serious war crimes. If any individual is indicted or pursued by the court and is in the custody of the United States, the United States has the right under the Rome statute, whether or not it's a ratifying party, to try that person themselves, said John Washburn, convenor of Coalition for the International Criminal Court. The request ... must be granted by the court unless the court concludes that the proceeding is a sham, or that the government in question really doesn't have a legal system [or a] judicial system, Washburn said. The court is aimed at people like Pol Pot, Idi Amin and Milosevic, Washburn said. If such an American citizen was at home and the U.S. government had not ratified the Rome statute, the U.S. government would have no obligation to cooperate with the court. Kiss Your Rights Goodbye However, an indicted American could be turned over to the ICC if he or she were arrested on the soil of a country that had ratified the treaty or wanted to cooperate with the ICC, according to Washburn. He said that Americans do not take their constitutional rights with them when they leave American soil, and that American subjection to ICC jurisdiction overseas would not be any different than their current subjection to foreign laws in foreign countries. Washburn said the ICC would act as a permanent war crimes tribunal, replacing other tribunals, such as the Rwanda and Yugoslavia war crimes tribunals. The court will punish the worst offenders for the worst crimes: genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes, Washburn said. The United States has had a consistent policy into trying to get people like Pol Pot and Idi Amin ... and Milosevic tried in some kind of tribunal that would have international credibility. If the U.S wants to continue this policy of having people tried, they had better get together with the court, Washburn said. Since it was modified, most of the Helms bill is symbolic, Washburn said. The administration said to Helms, [Rep. Henry Hyde] and others that [it could] not support this
[CTRL] North Korea Stockpiles Plutonium
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/12/18/150202.shtml WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! North Korea Stockpiles Plutonium NewsMax.com Wires Wednesday, Dec. 19, 2001 SEOUL, South Korea â North Korea has stockpiled enough plutonium to build at least one atomic bomb but is still several years from producing nuclear weapons because of rudimentary technology, South Korea's Defense Ministry said Tuesday. In a report on North Korea's weapons of mass destruction, the ministry estimated the communist country extracted 22 to 26 pounds of weapons-grade plutonium from its Soviet-designed graphite-moderated reactors before shutting them down under a 1994 deal with the United States. North Korea conducted more than 70 nuclear-related tests of high explosives between 1983 and 1998, the report said. Those tests were a process needed before fabricating a high-explosive device or detonator, and there were problems in the post-1993 tests acquiring parts of the detonator, the report said. North Korea may have a capability of putting together a crude nuclear explosion device, the ministry report said. But its technology is believed to be still in a rudimentary stage and it will take the North at least several years to turn the system into a weapon. U.S. Blackmailed Under the 1994 agreed framework, North Korea pledged to freeze its Soviet-designed reactors, in return for a U.S. promise to provide 1,000-megawatt light-water models that make it more difficult to extract weapons-grade plutonium. The ministry report is considered as confirmation of widespread suspicions North Korea might have extracted weapons-grade plutonium before freezing its nuclear program. The nuclear accord obliges North Korea to open its atomic facilities to inspection by the International Atomic Energy Agency before the light-water reactor equipment is installed. The U.N. nuclear watchdog recently said it wanted wider inspections, complaining of little progress in its effort to verify North Korea's past nuclear activities. But Pyongyang has rejected international demand to allow inspections, sparking a new round of tension with the United States. President Bush has urged North Korea to allow inspections of its weapons programs, including nuclear and biological arms, warning consequences if the country refused. North Korean nuclear officials and engineers are traveling to South Korea to observe the country's nuclear facilities under a training protocol signed between North Korea and a U.S.-led international consortium, which is building light-water reactors in the North. In November, North Koreans toured nuclear facilities in Sweden and Spain. Hunger and poverty are widespread in the communist dictatorship, and the country receives U.S. aid even though the regime often rants against America. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] another scandal in Anthrakistan?
-Caveat Lector- Representative Ed Markey (D-MA) December 18, 2001 Letter to Northern Arizona University concerning transfer of a shipment of anthrax to Los Alamos National Laboratory. http://www.pogo.org/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Congress Tackles Bush on 'Cover-up'
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/12/19/165202.shtml If Congress don;t win this one! Freedom is gone! -- Bill WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Congress Tackles Bush on 'Cover-up' NewsMax.com Wires Thursday, Dec. 20, 2001 WASHINGTON â The House Government Reform Committee plans hearings to force the Bush administration into handing over subpoenaed documents. That panel is bucking a Dec. 12 decision by President Bush to withhold from Congress a raft of law enforcement documents, some of which are decades old, by citing executive privilege. Committee members said the president received bad legal advice and is abusing his authority. The Congress has to exercise its oversight responsibilities in order to protect the American public from malfeasance in government and corruption in government, said Chairman Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind. When an executive order is issued that stops us from our oversight responsibilities, then the very foundations of our government start to be in jeopardy. Those hearings come as the White House and Department of Justice have asked Congress for boosted authority to fight the war on terror and that authority should come with increased oversight, some House Republicans said. When the attorney general indicates that in this time of crisis we need to give expanded powers to police agencies and the Justice Department to help us in our national defense, that is a reasonable request, said Rep. Steven C. LaTourette, R-Ohio. At the same time, it is a reasonable expectation that there will be additional oversight by the other, co-equal, branches of government. The Bush administration and the Justice Department in particular have faced scrutiny from members of both parties in Congress for establishing military tribunals and aggressively detaining suspects using immigration law, for example. Burton said his committee was unlikely to tackle those issues directly. But separately, Burton on Friday also fired off a letter to the General Accounting Office seeking an investigation into whether the department might have artificially inflated the number of terrorist convictions it has claimed. Burton said DOJ's claims might have been overstated. The Bush administration, claiming executive privilege, refused Dec. 12 to honor subpoenas from the committee in its investigation of campaign finance violations in the Clinton administration and the use of FBI informants in organized crime investigations. Justice Department officials said then that the refusal would keep investigations free from political influences. Burton says the decision to reject the subpoenas reflects a policy of the Bush administration to refuse cooperation with Congress on criminal investigations, even when the cases are closed. According to a Bush memo to Attorney General John Ashcroft signed Dec. 12, the requested documents should not be turned over because of the effect making such material would have on internal decision making. Congressional pressure on executive branch prosecutorial decision making is inconsistent with separation of powers and threatens individual liberty, Bush wrote. But lawmakers said the actions by the administration that are covering the FBI's tracks don't look good. I think now their actions have reached the level of a cover-up, said Rep. John J. Duncan, R-Tenn. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research
[CTRL] CIA COVERT ACTIONS DRUG TRAFFICKING
-Caveat Lector- CIA COVERT ACTIONS DRUG TRAFFICKING by Alfred McCoy Excerpted from testimony before the Special Seminar focusing on allegations linking CIA secret operations and drug trafficking-convened February 13, 1997, by Rep. John Conyers, Dean of the Congressional Black Caucus Let's look at the heroin boom of the 1980s. In the 1980s, CIA op-erations again played a role in the revival of the U.S. drug problem. In 1979, the Soviets invaded Afghanistan and the Sandinistas seized power in Nicaragua, prompting two more CIA operations with some revealing similarities. Let us now pay particularly close attention to the CIA's Afghan operation. Not only is the Afghan operation simultaneous and similar to the controversial contra operation, but its direct and negative impact on U.S. drug supply is beyond question or controversy. In 1980 and 1981, heroin production in Southwest Asia, Afghanistan and Pakistan suddenly expanded to fill gaps in the global drug market. Although Pakistan and Afghanistan had zero-zero-heroin production in the mid-1970s, by 1981 Pakistan had suddenly emerged as the world's number one heroin supplier. Reporting from Teheran in the mid 1970s, U.S. Ambassador Richard Helms, the former CIA Director, insisted that there was no heroin production in this region, only localized opium trade. This region, he said, then supplied zero percent of the U.S. heroin supply. In 1981, by contrast, the U.S. Attorney General announced that Pakistan was now supplying sixty percent of the U.S. demand for heroin. Inside Pakistan itself the results were even more disastrous. Rising from zero heroin addicts in 1979, Pakistan had five thousand addicts in 1980 and one million two hundred thousand addicts in 1985, the world's highest number in any terms. Why was Pakistan able to capture the world's heroin market with such surprising speed and ease? After the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan in 1979, the White House assigned the CIA to mount a major operation to support the Afghan resistance. Working through Pakistan Inter-Service Intelligence, the CIA began supplying covert arms and finance to Afghan forces. As they gained control over liberated zones inside Afghanistan, the Afghan guerrillas required that its supporters grow opium to support the resistance. Under CIA and Pakistani protection, Pakistan military and Afghan resistance opened heroin labs on the Afghan and Pakistani border. According to The Washington Post of May 1990, among the leading heroin manufacturers were Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, an Afghan leader who received about half of the covert arms that the U.S. shipped to Pakistan. Although there were complaints about Hekmatyar's brutality and drug trafficking within the ranks of the Afghan resistance of the day, the CIA maintained an uncritical alliance and supported him without reservation or restraint. Once the heroin left these labs in Pakistan's northwest frontier, the Sicilian Mafia imported the drugs into the U.S., where they soon captured sixty percent of the U.S. heroin market. That is to say, sixty percent of the U.S. heroin supply came indirectly from a CIA operation. During the decade of this operation, the 1980s, the substantial DEA contingent in Islamabad made no arrests and participated in no seizures, allowing the syndicates a de facto free hand to export heroin. By contrast, a lone Norwegian detective, following a heroin deal from Oslo to Karachi, mounted an investigation that put a powerful Pakistani banker known as President Zia's surrogate son behind bars. The DEA in Islamabad got nobody, did nothing, stayed away. Former CIA operatives have admitted that this operation led to an expansion of the Pakistan-Afghanistan heroin trade. In 1995 the former CIA Director of this Afghan operation, Mr. Charles Cogan, admitted sacrificing the drug war to fight the Cold War. Our main mission was to do as much damage to the Soviets. We didn't really have the resources or the time to devote to an investigation of the drug trade, he told Australian television. I don't think that we need to apologize for this. Every situation has its fallout. There was fallout in terms of drugs, yes, but the main objective was accomplished. The Soviets left Afghanistan. Again, distance insulated the CIA from political fallout. Once the heroin left Pakistan, the Sicilian Mafia exported it to the U.S., and local gangs sold it on the street. Eventually U.S. drug agents arrested a bunch of middle-aged Sicilians migrants at pizza parlors from Boston, MA to Milton, WI in the famous pizza connection case of the 1980s. Not surprisingly, most Americans did not make the equation between Afghan drug lords, the pizza parlors and the heroin in their cities. Hence, there was no controversy over this Afghan operation. In Central America, however, simple proximity has made the fallout from the CIA operations explosive. Unlike the CIA's Asian warlords, Nicaragua's Contras did not produce drugs and had to make their money by
[CTRL] 'Monstrous' Killer Mom Guilty
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/12/19/151724.shtml WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! 'Monstrous' Killer Mom Guilty NewsMax.com Wires Thursday, Dec. 20, 2001 CHICAGO â A jury of six men and six women Wednesday convicted a former nurse of murdering her three children. Marilyn Lemak smothered the kids after tucking them into bed in March 1999. The verdict came after nine hours of deliberations, following three weeks of testimony and four hours of closing arguments before Judge George Bakalis. Deliberations began Tuesday afternoon in suburban Wheaton, Ill. Prosecutors described Mrs. Lemak, 44, as vengeful, out to inflict the most pain possible on her estranged husband, Dr. David Lemak, because he had become involved with another woman. In closing arguments Tuesday, even defense attorney Jack Donahue called the killings despicable and monstrous acts and referred to the children as three angels and He said Mrs. Lemak was clinically depressed and thought she was sending her children to a better place. Marilyn Lemak, as she sits there, remains trapped in the wreckage of her own mind, Donahue said in closing arguments. We're not asking you to exonerate her. You must realize Marilyn Lemak will always remain unextricated from the unimaginable nightmare that she created by her own hands. DuPage County State's Attorney Joseph Birkett argued that Mrs. Lemak was sane. He said she was full of self-pity and anger at her estranged husband for starting to date while their divorce was still pending. He said her claim that depression made her kill was an insult to the millions who suffer from clinical depression. Nicholas, 7, Emily, 6, and Thomas, 3, were fed Ativan-laced peanut butter and then smothered with her hands on March 4, 1999. The verdict was greeted quietly. Mrs. Lemak, who has gone from 160 pounds at the time of the killings to barely 100 pounds now, looked down at her feet. Her ex-husband looked down and never looked at her. Her parents cried, and her sister buried her head. Her family had been hoping for a verdict of not guilty by reason of insanity or guilty but mentally ill. Her father, Bill Morrissey, after closing arguments Tuesday, said he hoped his daughter would receive psychiatric help, not just punishment. The conviction of first-degree murder means Mrs. Lemak could face a death sentence. After the verdict, an emotional Dr. Lemak said at a news conference that he had not decided whether he would like to see his ex-wife sentenced to death. Justice isn't served in this world, he said. And our attempts to find a way to deal with people who take other people's lives is a problem for all of us as a society to figure out. As of now, I don't have a right or wrong answer. In his first public comments on the case, Dr. Lemak said he never saw the murders coming and in fact thought his ex-wife, in the days before the killings, had finally accepted that their marriage was over. I loved Lyn, he said. She made choices throughout the last years of our marriage ... that took her to where she is now. I think it's helpful to understand ... every one of us has the potential to do terrible things. If we can accept that possibility ... and simply say no, then we can live our lives well. Shortly after the murders, he said he wondered why didn't she take me? Then I began to realize she had a reason for not taking me. Holding up a picture of himself and his children, a tearful Dr. Lemak told reporters, Certainly one of my regrets is that I won't get to see the impact on the world they could have made. Before reaching their verdict, jurors sought transcripts of some of the psychiatric testimony, but decided to forego the documents after learning it would take four hours for them to be produced. The verdict reflects the true facts of this case, Birkett said, calling the defendant's actions an act of revenge and hatred. When innocent children are injured or killed to exact revenge, those responsible must be held accountable under the law. Birkett said no decision has yet been made on whether to seek the death penalty. Post-trial motions are scheduled on Feb. 13. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions
[CTRL] Hamas to halt anti-Israeli suicide bombings
Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ---BeginMessage--- ADVERTISEMENT My Groups | southnews Main Page -- Hamas to halt anti-Israeli suicide bombings Thursday, December 20, 2001 . Posted: 07:07:24 (AEDT) http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s444599.htm A senior Hamas official has said the radical Palestinian movement has decided to stop suicide bombings against Israel. He told the Agence France Presse news agency that Hamas had taken an internal decision to end what it calls martyrdom operations, but it was not going to make an official declaration. The official refused to say what tactics the radical group would use in its avowed struggle to end the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land, or if it would revert to grisly attacks if Israel carries out more targeted killings, which have taken a heavy toll on Hamas operatives. We can't predict anything, the official said. An official from Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement also said there had been a meeting of various Palestinian factions in the West Bank on Wednesday and that Hamas had informed them they were halting their operations. The suicide attacks triggered a massive Israeli armed response and sweeping international condemnation. The Fatah official, who likewise asked to remain anonymous, said Hamas had said it did not want to damage Palestinian national unity by carrying on with such operations. Hamas suicide bombers blew themselves up in Jerusalem and Haifa, in northern Israel, at the beginning of this month, killing 26 people and provoking the heaviest Israeli air raids against Mr Arafat's administration to date. Israel's Prime Minister Ariel Sharon severed all ties with Mr Arafat last week after another Hamas attack, which used gunmen and roadside explosives rather than suicide bombings. Mr Arafat in turn ordered the closure of dozens of Hamas offices and has started arresting its militants. A senior Israeli Defence official was quoted by army radio on Tuesday as saying Hamas had shifted the focus in its guerrilla war against Israel, and now planned to attack strategic targets rather than soft ones, such as public buses or crowded shopping areas. The defence source said the focus will be on attacking strategic buildings and senior Israeli officials. © ABC 2001 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] Bank of Italy accounts show evidence of gold swap deception
---BeginMessage--- By Bill Murphy www.LeMetropoleCafe.com December 19, 2001 The following documentation and statements were presented in Reg Howe's lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Boston against the Bank for International Settlements, Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan, New York Fed President William J. McDonough, J.P. Morgan Co. Inc., Chase Manhattan Corp., Citigroup Inc., Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Deutsche Bank AG, and former U.S. Treasury Secretary Lawrence H. Summers. * * * In July 1998, Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan, testifying before the House Banking Committee, stated: Nor can private counterparties restrict supplies of gold, another commodity whose derivatives are often traded over-the-counter, where central banks stand ready to lease gold in increasing quantities should the price rise. This statement amounted to a declaration that the gold price had been and would continue to be controlled. According to reliable reports received by the plaintiff, this effort was later described by Edward A. J. George, governor of the Bank of England and a director of the BIS, to Nicholas J. Morrell, chief executive of Lonmin Plc: We looked into the abyss if the gold price rose further. A further rise would have taken down one or several trading houses, which might have taken down all the rest in their wake. Therefore at any price, at any cost, the central banks had to quell the gold price, manage it. It was very difficult to get the gold price under control but we have now succeeded. The U.S. Fed was very active in getting the gold price down. So was the U.K. The abyss comment made by George is no rumor monger talk. It was made in front of three people I know personally pursuant to the dramatic rise in the price of gold following the surprise Washington Agreement announced on September 26, 1999. * * * The evidence that the GATA army has collected over the past year since Howe filed his complaint fully supports George's comment that the central banks would do anything to manage the price of gold. Tragically, anything came to mean lying, deceiving, and breaking various laws. The essence of the Washington Agreement was that 15 European banks agreed to limit the sales of central bank gold to 400 tonnes per year for five years and not to increase their lending of gold over that time. The British and the Americans were not clued in prior to the announcement. The reaction of the gold price to the Washington Agreement was the most dramatic rise in the price of gold ever. That is not what any of the central bankers had in mind. They were just perturbed at the tactics of the Gold Cartel to suppress the gold price and wanted to do something about it. They had no intention of creating financial chaos. How could they have been so surprised at what occurred? Easy. They were working off the inept gold industry gold loan numbers of less than 5,000 tonnes. The real number was more than double that at the time, which means the central banks had FAR less gold in their vaults than they realized. The announcement set off a panic because the yearly supply/demand deficit was running over 1,600 tonnes (again, more than they realized) and there would be no way to hold the gold price down under the new agreement. The scheming Gold Cartel was in deep trouble. Something had to be done FAST. A solution had to be found that would allow the central banks and the Gold Cartel to calm the market by feeding central bank gold into that market to satisfy the strong gold demand. The problem for the Gold Cartel and the central banks was they needed to come up with a way to get the job done and not let the investment world realize the seriousness of the situation. Some sort of plan of deception had to be devised, and one was -- in Santiago, Chile, in October 1999 by the International Monetary Fund. The plan centered around IMF central bank members swapping out their gold, yet still accounting for that gold as a central bank gold asset. To put it bluntly, they would perpetuate a lie about what the true status of central bank gold. We know that to be the case as a result of the super-sleuthing of GATA's Andrew Hepburn of Canada. Andrew asked the IMF the following: Why does the IMF insist that members record swapped gold as an asset when a legal change in ownership has occurred? The IMF answered: This is not correct. The IMF in fact recommends that swapped gold be excluded from reserve assets. (See Data Template on International Reserves and Foreign Currency Liquidity, Operational Guidelines, para. 72,) Yet, the following can be found on the Internet site of the central bank of the Philippines: Beginning January 2000, in compliance with the requirements of the IMF's reserves and foreign currency liquidity template under the Special Data Dissemination Standard (SDDS), gold swaps undertaken by the BSP with non-central banks shall be treated as collateralized loan. Thus, gold under the
[CTRL] Azzam.com-US WARPLANES ATTACK TARGETS IN YEMEN
http://66.96.205.195/~azzam/afghan/news/news.php?id=43 20 December 2001 : US WARPLANES ATTACK TARGETS IN YEMEN MARIB, YEMEN (Institute for Islamic Research and Studies): Since the morning of Tuesday 18 December 2001, US warplanes have been bombing the Husoun village in Marib, Yemen, situated about 200km South East of Sanaa. The reason for this bombing is due to the refusal of the Ale-Jalal tribe to hand over Mujahideen to the Yemeni Government which was given a list of names by the US Government just before Ramadan began (mid-November 2001). The Mujahideen concerned thus informed the tribal leaders at the beginning of Ramadan that they would leave the villages and retire to the mountains. The Mujahideen thus left the village under the leadership of Abu Ali Al-Harithi and amongst them were Abu Asim, Abu Ibrahim and Ayman. When Ramadan finished, these Mujahideen returned briefly to the village in order to celebrate Eid with their families. The Yemeni Government was alerted to their return and they informed the US Air Force, who in turn began to bomb targets in the village whilst Yemeni Special Forces entered the village on foot. However, the tribesmen were ready and prepared for such an encounter and they fiercely resisted the onslaught, killing eight Yemeni Special Forces troops and capturing 100. They also destroyed four armoured vehicles and captured nine Toyota 4WD jeeps in addition to an assortment of light and medium weapons with ammunition. The Yemeni forces thus retreated from the villages and called in American air support after suffering this heavy defeat. After Isha prayers on Tuesday night, US warplanes attacked the village, destroying the houses of Abu Ali Al-Harithi and Abu Asim in addition to the houses of two other Egyptian Mujahideen. Three women are confirmed to have been killed and dozens of civilians, including children, injured in this barbaric act of terrorism in a residential area. Exact details of casualties will be provided once possible. The Yemeni Government strongly denied claims that US warplanes had taken part in this operation, insisting instead that it was their own planes that participated. However, in addition to the presence of US markings on some unexploded bombs, the houses of those in question were destroyed with such accuracy and it is known that the Yemeni Air Force does not have the capability to possess or use such accurate weapons. This terrorist act proves that the 'War Against Terror' is infact a war against Islam that has nothing to do with Usama Bin Ladin, nor a finite number of individuals. Rather it is a war against true Islam that rejects subjugation by the Crusaders upon the Muslims. After Yemen, the war against Islam is expected to spread to other Muslim countries such Somalia, Iraq, Indonesia and Sudan perhaps. Has not the time come for Muslims to awake from their deep sleep and realise that this Crusade is a war against Islam that does not differentiate between those 'Muslims' who support the Crusaders and those who oppose them? The US Government will not be satisfied with the Muslims except in two circumstances: 1. That the Muslims follow and obey them 100% much the same way as the Northern Alliance and Hamid Karzai, etc. have in Afghanistan, implenting all their laws, rules and commands. 2. That if it is not possible for the US to completely attack and destroy a Muslim country, then they will attempt to turn the government of that country against its own people under the banner of its 'War Against Terror', such that the governments of the Muslim countries become involved and occupied in civil wars against their own people. Therefore after all these recent events, if any Muslim still remains unconvinced that this Crusade is a war against Islam, then he is ignorant and blind to the reality around him. The Muslims in every part of the World are reminded yet again to increase in their supplications for Allah to grant victory to the Mujahideen in every land, and especially in Afghanistan; to destroy the disbelievers, especially America; to steady the shooting of the Mujahideen and to destabilise the shooting of the Crusaders and their allies; that He makes the feet of the Mujahideen firm and that He shakes the ground beneath the feet of the Crusaders; that He strengthens the hearts of the Mujahideen and places fear into the hearts of the Crusaders and their allies; and that He grants victory to the Mujahideen and routs and humiliates the Crusaders and their allies, as He has Power over that. Ameen.
[CTRL] PRAVDA.RU INTERVIEWS PATRICK BUCHANAN Part 1
-Caveat Lector- http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/12/18/23938.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! AN AMERICAN POPULIST: PRAVDA.RU INTERVIEWS PATRICK BUCHANAN NATO expansion, Russiaâs place in Europe, and the coming clash of civilizations: Patrick Buchanan gives an exclusive interview to PRAVDA.Ru Q. You are known as being a critic of the NATO actions against Yugoslavia during 1999. As you know, the majority of the Russian population was against the war. Many Russians feel as if the Serbs are their little brothers. In addition, many people here believe that the stories of large-scale ethnic cleansing were simply designed to convince the American public to support the actions. Why, exactly, were you opposed to this war? A. I am well aware of the historic feelings of the Russian people for the Serbs, who are fellow Slavs and Orthodox Christians. Indeed, it was the unwillingness of Russia to permit the Austro-Hungarian empire to crush Serbia, after the assassination of the Archduke in June of 1914, that led to World War I. I opposed the Yugoslav war because I thought it was an unjust war against a small nation that had done nothing to us. Serbia had not threatened us, had not attacked us, and had been our friend and ally in two world wars. Serbs had rescued hundreds of downed American pilots when we were fighting the Nazis. And Serbia had not attacked any NATO nation. Why then did NATO attack Serbia? The U.S. launched a 78-day air war against a nation of ten million, because that nation refused to permit NATO troops to march with impunity across its sovereign territory. As for the allegations of mass atrocities by Serbs, -- that 100,000 Kosovar Albanians had been massacred -- that turned out to have been almost 100% propaganda. Before our air strikes began, in one year of Serbiaâs civil war there had been only 2,000 casualties, and 95,000 Kosovar Albanians had gone into exile. Yet, in just one day in our own Civil War, at Antietam, there were 10,000 dead in one day of fighting. Nobody accused us of genocide. Almost all of the ethnic expulsions in the Yugoslav civil war occurred after the U.S. bombing began. Moreover, at the warâs end, there were atrocities against Serbs, and 250,000 Serbs were pushed out of their province, and many of their beautiful old churches and cathedrals were smashed. Who has been made to answer for those crimes? No one. Milosevic was a thug, but he did not want war with the United States and it was not our responsibility to remove him. As Lord Byron said, Who would be free/Themselves must strike the blow. Q. Do you think that the American press accurately covered the events that took place? A. I was campaigning for President at the time, but my recollection is that the coverage was biased against the Serbs, that Americans had been made to believe the Serbs were some kind of wild beasts. What the U.S. press did not explain was how these wild beasts could vote Milosevic out, then be hailed as the newest members of the Great Western Democratic Club. Q. What do you think the long-term solution to the ethnic problems in Yugoslavia could be? A. Given the memories of atrocities on all sides, it is foolish to try to force these peoples to live together, as in Bosnia. In the end, I think an eventual partition of Bosnia is inevitable. As for Kosovo, we should have stayed out militarily, and tried to broker a deal whereby the Kosovar Albanians could have more autonomy, without breaking up Yugoslavia. Unlike Slovenia and Croatia, which were given to Belgrade in 1919 -- after being taken from the Austro-Hungarian Empire -- Serb roots in Kosovo go back centuries to a time even before Columbus discovered America. Kosovo is the cradle of Serbia. If the NATO allies let Kosovo be severed from Serbia, I believe we will be creating the conditions of future war. There is already a movement afoot to create a Greater Albania by tearing off Kosovo and parts of Montenegro and Macedonia and attaching them to Albania. Should this happen, we will face endless Balkan wars. But this is Europeâs problem, not Americaâs. Q. It is well known that NATO and the USSR had an agreement that when Russian troops withdrew from countries such as East Germany and Poland, that NATO said it would not expand eastward. In your opinion, should Russia be concerned about the continued expansion of NATO? A. Clearly, from the record, the U.S. led the Soviet Union to believe that If it abolished the Warsaw Pact and if the Russian Army went home from Central and Eastern Europe, we would not move NATO one inch further east. So, the U.S. did not keep its word, given verbally by our diplomats, including, I believe, Secretary of State James Baker. Even though I used to write Captive Nations resolutions when I worked for Presidents Nixon and Reagan, and welcomed the liberation of Eastern Europe and the Baltic states from Communist rule and Soviet rule, I opposed NATO
[CTRL] PRAVDA.RU INTERVIEWS PATRICK BUCHANAN Part 3
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Q. Speaking of the Middle East, we have seen an increase in violence between Israel and the Palestinians. The United States is perceived in many countries as being unfairly siding with Israel. Russia is supposed to be a cosponsor to the peace process. In your opinion, is there anything that Russia can do to promote peace in the region? A. As the situation is deteriorating and no one seems to have a solution, perhaps there is: Why not step out and lay down what Russia believes the terms of a just peace are, and get the Western Europeans to sign on, and propose it? At least then the warring parties would have something on the table. Other than that, I cannot think of what Russia could do dramatically to affect the situation, and I confess I am pessimistic. Prime Minister Rabin was a great man. I first met him in 1967 in Israel, with Mr. Nixon, right after the Six-Day War. And General Rabin and Ehud Barak were on the right track, and Arafat should have at least hailed the Camp David proposals as enormous progress, even if he could not sign on the dotted line. But then Sharon went stomping around the Temple Mount with a thousand bodyguards and the second intifada exploded. Our difficulty here is that most Americans who are most passionate about the Middle East think Rabin and Barak were foolish to make the offers they did. They want Sharon to unleash the Israeli army. They believe the way to end violence is to thrash the Palestinians, once and for all, so they will sit down at the table and behave like good little boys. As of now, the U.S. seems to have given Sharon a virtual free hand, so long as he does not physically eliminate Arafat. Americaâs second difficulty is that we are trying to be both Israelâs most loyal ally -- not criticizing anything they do in self-defense -- at the same time we are supposed to be an honest broker who brings together both sides in a compromise. To the Arabs, the U.S. umpire, who is supposed to be neutral, is spending most of his time in the other teamâs locker room, plotting strategy, and cheering them on. In the correlation of forces today, the Israelis have the power and the land, but the population numbers are against them. By 2025, the 4.2 million Palestinians now under Israeli rule -- in Israel, East Jerusalem, on the West Bank, and Gaza â will number 9 million. By 2050, they will number 15 million, and there will be 10 million more in Jordan. If demography is destiny, Israel is in an existential crisis. I donât think this is something that Israel can resolve with F-16s and helicopter gunships. If I were President -- an idea the American people enthusiastically rejected -- I would lay out what I think are the terms of a just, honorable peace for both sides. Perhaps that would break the cycle of violence that is swirling ever more rapidly, and which may draw a lot more of us in -- Israelis and Palestinians, Arabs and Americans -- before it is done. An independent Palestinian State on the West Bank and in Gaza, with its capital in East Jerusalem, with Islamic control of Islamic holy places, is a necessary condition of peace. But, with the recent deposits of bitterness and hatred on all sides, I wonder if it is any longer a sufficient condition for peace. This may be a terminal struggle, like Vietnam, where the side with the greater willingness to sacrifice, suffer and die, eventually wins all and dictates terms to the loser. Because Western peoples believe in compromise and contracts, we tend to think other peoples believe in them, too. But other people usually believe in them only as long as we have the power to enforce them. When they acquire the power, they tear them up and impose their own solutions. The Israelis think this is what the Palestinians and their Arab allies will do, if Israel gives up strategic terrain. And they may be right. This is why I would not impose an American solution. But, in the long run, this is not our problem, it is Israelâs problem. If the Israelis cannot find a way to make peace with their neighbors, their future is going to be very unhappy. As for the United States, if we cannot be a truly honest broker, we ought to disengage militarily and let these nations work out their own destinies. Again, President Washington had it right. If you wish peace, be prepared for war, but if you wish peace, stay out of other nationâs wars. Americans have always be ready to fight for their freedom, but we are not like the British, we are poor imperialists. Most of us have no interest in ruling other nations. We have everything we want or need right here in Godâs country, the U.S.A. Q. Do you have any comments about Russiaâs recent role in Afghanistan? It seems that some people were surprised when Russian troops set up a hospital in Kabul. Why do you think people were surprised by this action? How do you see future events in Afghanistan
[CTRL] PRAVDA.RU INTERVIEWS PATRICK BUCHANAN Part 2
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Q. You gave an interview with Salon magazine in which you commented on the population crisis in Russia. It is true that the population of Russia is declining, especially the population of ethnic Russians. The government has taken some steps to try to encourage ethnic Russians living in former Soviet republics to return to their Motherland. You predicted that because of the shrinking Russian population and the growing numbers of Chinese inhabitants of certain areas of eastern Russia, eventually Russia will lose these areas. In your opinion, is there anything that Russia can do to prevent this? A. With the Russian empire having gone the way of all the other Western empires, Russians should come home to preserve and protect Mother Russia. For Russia, my figures are that the present population of about 145 million will fall to 114 million by 2050. I had the UN project the trend out to the end of the century. The UN experts say that Russiaâs population, at present birth rates, will fall to 80 million by 2100, or as many people as America had in 1905. Russia cannot hold on to an area twice the size of the United States with that small a population, especially with a hungry neighbor like China, which will outnumber Russia 15-1 in 2050. In east Asia, there will be perhaps a hundred Chinese to every Russian. Incidentally, Mr. Putin, who is quoted in The Death of the West, is more pessimistic in his population numbers than I. He says it could go as low as 123 million -- a loss of one seventh of the nation -- by 2015. That is more Russians lost in 15 years than perished in Hitlerâs War. I think the Chinese will take the Russian far east, especially the pieces the czar took between 1858-1860, around Manchuria, the way the Americans took Texas. We just moved in until we out-numbered the local Mexican population ten-to-one. Unless Russia can turn its birth rate around, which is only half of what is needed to replace existing population, I donât know how you do it. Bringing Russians home from the old Soviet republics is a necessary step, but let us concede the truth: It is also another demonstration of the historic retreat of the West back into the base camp from which the West broke out in the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries to rule the world. From my studies, there is a direct co-relation between faith and birth rates. For example, Japan, which had to abandon its old faith and emperor worship at the end of World War II, is now the oldest nation on earth, with a median age of 41. This is why it has lost its dynamism. By 2050, the median age of Italy and Spain will be 54 and 55 years old. A third of Europe will be over 60. The German population will have fallen by 23 million, to 57 million. These dying Europeans will need millions of Arab and African immigrants just to take care of them. Between now and 2050, Asia, Africa and Latin America will add 3 billion more people -- or 30 new Mexicos! -- while Europe loses the equivalent of the entire population of Belgium, Holland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Germany. Europeâs native-born population will fall by 125 million by mid-century. But it is impossible to find a single Islamic nation where the population is not soaring. Do I know how to turn this around? Yes, but it would require a great religious awakening or mass conversion of European and Russian women to the idea of having big families again. I donât see that happening. This is beyond politics; it is about faith and belief. Solzhenitzyn was right when he told the astonished dons of Harvard that the problem with America and the West was that Men have forgotten God. Vaclav Havel says we are trying to construct the first atheistic civilization in history. Indeed we are; and that civilization is dying, through it is going out in style. Q. Is a war between Russia and China inevitable? A. I believe China intends to consolidate its position in Tibet and its west by moving Han Chinese in by the millions. It will then occupy the disputed islands of the South China Sea, the Paracels and Spratlys. Then, it will take the Senkakus from Japan and move to bring Taiwan back into the embrace of the Motherland. All the while, Chinese traders and workers will move into far eastern Russia, especially into the territories north of Manchuria, along the Ussuri and Amur rivers, where there were pitched battles when I was in the Nixon White House in early 1969. The Chinese are patient, and they believe, not without reason, that they were robbed of territory and humiliated by the Western imperial powers, including Russia, and Japan, when they were weak. I think they expect that the territory Muraviev, Putiatin and Ignatiev acquired for Alexander II, Siberiaâs Maritime Province, will fall into their lap by default. Even the Russian people out there think that this land will eventually go to China. Will there be war? If the Chinese
[CTRL] Gun Ownership Are We Fit to Be Free? Part 1
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/12/19/15257.shtml WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Gun Ownership â Are We Fit to Be Free? Phil Brennan Wednesday, Dec. 19, 2001 It happened again. Some poor guy caught in a love triangle he couldn't handle went berserk and shot a number of co-workers before killing himself. These things are happening more and more frequently, the list of victims continues to grow, and much of the blame for the deaths and woundings can be laid squarely at the doors of the nation's rabid anti-gun zealots. If that sounds harsh, keep in mind the fact that in every single instance of mass shootings, the victims were all defenseless, largely because anti-gun laws and irrational anti-gun sentiments kept victims and bystanders from having weapons that could have been used to stop the killers in their tracks. That could have been true at Columbine High School where, had just one teacher had a concealed handgun to protect his students, the killing spree could have been ended and the list of victims sharply diminished. In every single case, by the time police arrived on the scene the damage had been done, dramatically underscoring the fact that Americans cannot rely on the police to protect them in such circumstances. As a result, laws banning or prohibitively restricting citizen gun ownership are putting Americans at the mercy of murderous crackpots and felons. Had pilots on the three hijacked planes on Black Tuesday been armed, there is every chance that the twin towers at the World Trade center would still be standing, the Pentagon would be intact, and thousands of innocent victims would still be among us, alive to celebrate Christmas with their loved ones. That they aren't is largely the fault of the fascistic anti-gun fanatics who have used dishonest statistics and outright lies to blame firearms, and not those who criminally use them, in order to create a national distaste for firearms. Gun Control Studies A February 2000 study by acclaimed researchers John R. Lott Jr. and William M. Landes concludes that the only policy factor to influence multiple victim public shootings is the passage of concealed handgun laws. The study conclusively shows that such crime deterrents as more police and wider use of the death penalty tend to curb normal instances of murder. They do nothing, however, to prevent such school shooting tragedies as have occurred in a number of the nation's public schools since 1997. To support their insistence that the availability of guns in or near public schools prevented more death and injury, Lott and Landes cited a number of examples, including the following: In the Pearl, Miss., shooting, an assistant principal retrieved his gun from his office and used it to physically immobilize the shooter before he caused additional harm. In an Edinboro, Penn., shooting, which left one teacher dead, a shotgun pointed at the offender while he was reloading his gun prevented additional harm. The police did not arrive for another 10 minutes after the assailant was apprehended by school staff. According to Lott, far and away the best-informed scholar on the subject, in the U.S., the states with the highest gun ownership rates have by far the lowest violent crime rates. And similarly, over time, states with the largest increases in gun ownership have experienced the biggest drops in violent crime. Research by Jeff Miron at Boston University, examining homicide rates across 44 countries, found that countries with the strictest gun control laws also tended to have the highest homicide rates, Lott wrote. News reports in Britain showed how crimes with guns have risen 40 percent since handguns were banned in 1997. Police are extremely important in stopping crime, but almost always arrive on the scene after the crime occurs. Passive behavior is much more likely to result in serious injury or death than using a gun to defend oneself. The only serious research on this issue has been conducted in the United States. The National Crime Victimization Report, done by the U.S. Department of Justice, indicates consistently that women who behave passively are 2.5 times more likely to be seriously injured than women who defend themselves with a gun. It is the physically weakest people (women and the elderly) who benefit the most from having a gun. Criminals, overwhelmingly young males, like to attack the targets that will give them the least trouble. A gun represents a great equalizer. Defensive gun uses are almost completely ignored by the media, but Americans use guns defensively about two million times a year, five times more often than guns are used to commit crimes. Media's Role Lott takes aim at the media, pointing the finger of blame for the disinformation that abounds about gun ownership directly at those who report the news. No one would ever learn this by simply watching the news. In part this
[CTRL] Gun Ownership Are We Fit to Be Free? Part 2
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Grand Junction, Colo.: On his way home from work, a contractor picked up three young hitchhikers. He fixed them a steak dinner at his house and was preparing to offer them jobs. Two of the men grabbed his kitchen knives and started stabbing him in the back, head and hands. The attackers stopped only when he told them that he could give them money. Instead of money, the contractor grabbed a pistol and shot one of the attackers. The contractor said, If I'd had a trigger lock, I'd be dead. Columbia Falls, Mont.: An ex-boyfriend is accused of entering a woman's home and sexually assaulting her. She got away long enough to get her handgun and hold her attacker at gunpoint until police arrived. Salt Lake City: Two robbers began firing their guns as soon as they entered a pawn shop. The owner and his son returned fire. One of the robbers was shot in the arm; both were later arrested. The shop owner's statement said it all: If we did not have our guns, we would have had several people dead here. Baton Rouge, La.: At 5:45 a.m., a crack addict kicked in the back door of a house and entered. The attacker was fatally shot as he charged toward the homeowner. What advice would gun control advocates have given these victims? Should they have behaved passively? Unfortunately, by making it difficult for law-abiding people to get the most effective tool to defend themselves, gun control often puts victims' lives in jeopardy. On the other side of the coin, gun control has proved deadly, as is the case in England where under the Firearms Act of 1997 all handguns and most rifles were outlawed and confiscated. Wrote Richard Poe in his best-selling book, The Seven Myths of Gun Control: What happened next is something most Americans know nothing about because the press has not reported it in this country. A terrifying crime wave swept England. Stripped of the ability to defend themselves, Britons were left helpless against criminal attacks. And the criminals knew it. Their attacks grew bolder, as well as more frequent. To prove how true is the old adage If guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns, Poe reports that Between April and September 2000, street crime in London rose 32 percent over the same period in 1999. Lies and Progaganda Aside from keeping such vital information from their fellow Americans, the mainstream U.S. media have shamefully promoted anti-gun propaganda and lies. Take, for example, Professor Michael Bellesiles' book in which the author claims that the idea of a well-armed America in revolutionary times and afterward was a myth. As NewsMax reported at the time: Frenzied anti-self-defense zealots hailed his book as proof that colonial Americans owned few guns and that the idea of a nation of well-armed citizens was a myth, and he won a prestigious award for his rooting out the truth about guns in early America. But new research indicates that in many instances historian Michael A. Bellesiles simply twisted the facts to fit his own agenda. In a blockbuster exposé published in the Boston Globe, much of Bellesiles' book ''Arming America: The Origins of a National Gun Culture'' was called into question. According to Bellesiles, he examined more than 11,000 probate records of more than 1,200 counties, counting the number of guns listed in probate inventories. He wrote that he learned that between 1765 and 1821, no more than 17 percent of the inventories listed guns. He claimed that the rate of gun ownership was even lower in the 1760-1795 period â a mere 14 percent, he said. [O]ver half of these guns were listed as broken. ... According to a Dec. 9 story in the New York Times, Emory University professor Michael Bellesiles, whose book 'Arming America: The Origins of the National Gun Culture' caused a sensation with Second Amendment foes last year with its claims that gun ownership in the U.S. was 'an invented tradition,' may have perpetrated what the Times described as one of the worst academic scandals in years. According to the Times, scholars who examined Bellesiles' data were unable to substantiate his claim that 11,000-plus probate records from 40 counties in colonial America showed that fewer than 7 percent actually owned working guns. Those scholars who tried to corroborate the book's sensational findings were stunned by an astonishing number of serious errors, the Times reported, almost all of them intended to support [Bellesiles'] thesis. In some cases his numbers were off by a factor of two or three or more, Randolph Roth, a history professor at Ohio State University, told the Times. The number and scope of the errors in Bellesiles' work are extraordinary, Roth told the Times, saying they include misinterpretation of militia returns, literary documents and data from many other sources. The academics who studied Bellesiles' contentions found that his book was filled with blatant
[CTRL] Smart Postal Stamps??
http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,49186,00.html A Pitch for Smart Postal Stamps By Julia Scheeres 2:00 a.m. Dec. 19, 2001 PST In an effort to eliminate terrorist threats such as anthrax that are delivered by mail, the U.S. Postal Service is considering the implementation of "smart stamps" that would trace mail and identify senders. Among the suggestions proposed by the Committee on Government Reform, which oversees the USPS, is one that would require postal customers to show identification before buying stamps, making it nearly impossible to send anonymous letters. The anthrax-tainted letters that killed several people after the Sept. 11 attack cost the USPS $5 billion in equipment damage, clean-up efforts and lost revenues. Now the agency is scrambling to protect itself against future attacks. "The Postal Service is facing an unprecedented threat," said Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-California), the ranking minority member of the committee. "Bioterrorists are poisoning innocent Americans with anthrax by taking advantage of the anonymity of the mail." Waxman is proposing the implementation of a two-dimensional barcode "stamp" that would contain the sender's identity as well as the date, time and place the postage was paid. The technology is currently used by companies that provide Internet mailing services, such as Stamps.com. He said the particulars of the proposal -– including costs and the effect on stamp machines -– still need to be hashed out. A Postal Service spokesman refused to comment on the tracking proposal but allowed that the agency was "aggressively looking at virtually everything that's out there" to increase security. He added that mail-sorting technologies -– such as barcodes -- can be implemented unilaterally by the USPS without congressional approval. The USPS responded to the anthrax attacks by irradiating mail, but Waxman and others say the method is insufficient. Because irradiation equipment is costly, it has only been dispatched to a few undisclosed postal service facilities. The bulk of the 680 million pieces of mail delivered each day by the USPS is not sanitized. Irradiation, which consists of bombarding objects with high energy electrons that break up the bacteria's DNA and kill it is routinely used to sterilize food products such as meat. But the process can also destroy the mail - earlier this month, 90 lbs. of envelopes and magazines burst into flames at a New Jersey postal facility when the material overheated. Irradiation also harms electronics, exposes film and weakens prescription drugs, said Maynard H. Benjamin, president of the Envelope Manufacturers Association, a trade group representing the makers of 93 percent of the envelopes manufactured and distributed in North America. Benjamin, who attended closed-door meetings with the USPS and Waxman this month, has suggested the agency consider "fiber fingerprinting," which identifies correspondence by the unique characteristics possessed by each piece of paper. But the ultimate goal of any technology adopted by the USPS should be to identify the people sending mail, he said. "If you look at Federal Express or UPS, the reason there have been minimum successful threats to them is that everything they have is traceable and trackable," Benjamin said. Privacy advocates say that traceable mail would stifle whistle-blowers and government critics. Furthermore, they argue, the system could backfire. "You'll have the same fraudulent problems that you have with IDs and credit cards now," said Lauren Weinstein, the moderator of the Privacy Forum. "The bottom line is that the bad guys are going to find a away around it. What if they steal your stamps, and you get framed for something you didn't send?" Weinstein said that proposal could further harm the precarious financial health of the USPS, by pushing more consumers to opt for e-mail over snail mail.
[CTRL] Oh say can you see ... red, white and blue SUVs
http://www.sfbayview.com/edpp.htm#a4 Oh say can you see ... red, white and blue SUVs by Don Paul The leading corporate-sponsored news these days is all about the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan. We can’t avoid such news. It affects us even if we ignore it. It reaches all the way to the cars we drive along Third Street. Stories are told daily in newspapers and on TV. They come under the headings of “America Responds,” “America Fights Back,” “The War on Terrorism,” and so on. None of such news much examines why the U.S. is in Afghanistan. None of it much investigates likely aims and ends of the war there, nor probes the huge holes in official accounts. None of it dares to suggest that a multinational plot of jaw-dropping scope and cruelty — a kind of global coup — is hijacking our futures, robbing our freedoms, and hurting poor people most of all. Since Sept. 11, this column has tried to explore what’s really going on. Its early, inescapable conclusion (see Sept. 19 column) was that at least part of the U.S. government at least allowed the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. More investigation (see Sept. 26 and Oct. 10 columns) revealed that the Bush administration and its prime corporate sponsors were the main economic and political beneficiaries of outcomes from the Sept. 11 horror. Oil — that is, billions and trillions of dollars from oil and gas near the Caspian Sea and from the pipelines that would carry said oil and gas — was revealed as a key objective behind the U.S. campaign to wipe out the Taliban government in Afghanistan. Repression of dissent, cuts to civil rights, and a new legitimacy for the Bush administration were the big, immediate domestic gains of this “government for corporations” scheme. Finally (read “Fourth Reich Rising,” Oct. 24), this column pointed out the generations-old connections, from Nazi Germany forward, between the U.S. corporate establishment and openly fascist partners. It showed that profits with Bush family ties extend even to the U.S. patents for vaccines against anthrax. Evidence that has since emerged points to a plot more sinister and brutal than decent people can imagine. The evidence’s sources are themselves multinational and mostly establishment. They include MS-NBC, Le Figaro in France, the Guardian and BBC in England, dailies in India, Pakistan and Spain, and a new book titled “Bin Laden: The Hidden Truth.” Many are cited in Michael Ruppert’s e-mail newsletter “From the Wilderness” and on the globalcircle.org and Irish Times websites. Here is a timeline of facts. See what picture or pictures they form for you: a carpet of gold ... or a carpet of bombs? February-April 2001. Negotiations began between U.S. government and Taliban representatives to revive construction of pipelines that Unocal (Union 76) had proposed six years earlier. The pipelines would carry oil and gas through Turkmenistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan to the Arabian Sea, the shortest possible route to lucrative markets in the Far East. Last March, Laila Helms, Afghan niece of Richard Helms — he a former director of the CIA and a former U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan — assisted an aide of Taliban leader Mullah Muhammed Omar, Sayed Rahmatullah Hashimi, in meetings with the CIA in Washington. In April, Secretary of State Colin Powell announced aid in the amount of $43 million to the Taliban (The Irish Times, Nov.19, 2001). In May 2001, U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Director George Tenet met with Pakistan President Gen. Pervez Musharraf in Islamabad, Pakistan. The meeting was reported to be “unusually long.” It presumably included Tenet’s counterpart, Lt. General Mahmud Ahmad, head of the ISI, Pakistan’s equivalent of the CIA. (The Indian SAPRA news agency, May 22, 2001). In July 2001, Thomas Simons, former U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan; Karl Inderfurth, former assistant secretary of state for South Asian affairs; and Lee Coldren, former State Department expert on South Asia, met in Berlin with negotiators from the Taliban, Russia and six oil-rich nations that neighbor Afghanistan (BBC news, Sept.18; the Guardian, Sept. 22, 2001). According to Jean-Charles Brisard, co-author of “Bin Laden: The Hidden Truth”: “At one moment during the negotiations, the U.S. representatives told the Taliban, ‘Either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs.’’’ Naif Naik, former Pakistani minister for foreign affairs, was also present. He recalled that the discussions turned around “the formation of a government of national unity. If the Taliban had accepted this coalition, they would have immediately received international economic aid ... And the pipe lines from Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan would have come.’’ Naik also recalled that Tom Simons, the U.S. representative at these meetings, openly threatened the Taliban and Pakistan. “Simons said, ‘Either the Taliban behave as they ought to, or Pakistan convinces them to do so, or we will use another
[CTRL] FBI surveillance bonanza in BadTrans.B worm
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/23438.html FBI surveillance bonanza in BadTrans.B worm By Thomas C Greene in Washington Posted: 18/12/2001 at 05:51 GMT Millions of Outlook and Outlook Express users have been infected by the BadTrans.B worm, which logs keystrokes in every open window and periodically sends the log files to one of several e-mail dumps, presumably for later retrieval by nosey hackers. Or Feds. According to a story from Rotten.com, an ISP which hosts one of the e-mail dumps, MonkeyBrains, has received a request from the FBI to turn over all the relevant log files. MonkeyBrains has instead turned the tables on the FBI by making part of the database available to everyone on their Web site here. https://badtrans.monkeybrains.net/ If the story is true, then the FBI's intention is clear. They plan to assemble the data and grep for various key words and names in hopes of stumbling upon the passphrases of known and suspected evildoers. It's Magic Lantern on steroids, and yet it's just a dumb accident -- but one which could dump an absolute mother lode of otherwise forbidden data in the Feds' laps. While it's inconceivable that the FBI could get a search warrant for such a giant bonanza, there's nothing in the law which prevents the ISPs concerned from turning over the spoils voluntarily. At press time, MonkeyBrains claimed to have logged 5,857,277 BadTrans messages; and they host only one of a score of dumps. We've been unable to confirm the story due to temporal difficulties; but we will be checking with DoJ flacks, MonkeyBrains and several other ISPs believed to be hosting BadTrans mail dumps. We'll post a follow-up to this intriguing story as soon as we get the straight dope. ® Related Story BadTrans virus bites Windows users hard ~~~ http://www.dailyrotten.com/articles/archive/189387.html December 17, 2001 FBI wants access to worm's pilfered data A ROTTEN.COM EXCLUSIVE The FBI is asking for access to a massive database that contains the private communications and passwords of the victims of the Badtrans Internet worm. Badtrans spreads through security flaws in Microsoft mail software and transmits everything the victim types. Since November 24, Badtrans has violated the privacy of millions of Internet users, and now the FBI wants to take part in the spying. Victims of Badtrans are infected when they receive an email containing the worm in an attachment and either run the program by clicking on it, or use an email reader like Microsoft Outlook which may automatically run it without user intervention. Once executed, the worm replicates by sending copies of itself to all other email addresses found on the host's machine, and installs a keystroke-logger capable of stealing passwords including those used for telnet, email, ftp, and the web. Also captured is anything else the user may be typing, including personal documents or private emails. Coincidentally, just four days before the breakout of Badtrans it was revealed that the FBI was developing their own keystroke-logging virus, called Magic Lantern. Made to complement the Carnivore spy system, Magic Lantern would allow them to obtain target's passwords as they type them. This is a significant improvement over Carnivore, which can only see data after it has been transmitted over the Internet, at which point the passwords may have been encrypted. After Badtrans pilfers keystrokes the data is sent back to one of twenty-two email addresses (this is according to the FBI-- leading anti-virus vendors have only reported seventeen email addresses). Among these are free email addresses at Excite, Yahoo, and IJustGotFired.com. IJustGotFired is a free service of MonkeyBrains, a San Francisco based independent Internet Service Provider. In particular, [EMAIL PROTECTED] began receiving emails at 3:23 PM on November 24. Triggering software automatically disabled the account after it exceeded quotas, and began saving messages as they arrived. The following day, MonkeyBrains' mail server was sluggish. Upon examination of the mail server's logs, it quickly became apparent that 100 emails per minute to the suck_my_prick alias were the source of the problem. The mails delivered the logged keystrokes from over 100,000 compromised computers in the first day alone. Last week the FBI contacted the owner of MonkeyBrains, Rudy Rucker, Jr., and requested a cloned copy of the password database and keylogged data. The database includes only information stolen from the victims of the virus, not information about the perpetrator. The FBI wants indiscriminant access to the illegally extracted passwords and keystrokes of over two million people without so much as a warrant. Even with a warrant they would have to specify exactly what information they are after, on whom, and what they expect to find. Instead, they want it all and for no justifiable
[CTRL] 19 December 2001 Federalist Edition #01-51/52
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CONTENTS:
The Foundation
ICTUS Imprimis
Insight
Upright
Editorial Exegesis
Dezinformatsia
Sociocrats
Village Idiots
Short Cuts
__O__
THE FOUNDATION
The belief in a God All Powerful wise and good, is so essential to
the moral order of the world and to the happiness of man, that
arguments which enforce it cannot be drawn from too many sources nor
adapted with too much solicitude to the different characters and
capacities impressed with it. --James Madison
__O__
ICTUS IMPRIMIS
The Lord will have compassion on Jacob and will again choose Israel,
and will set them in their own land, and aliens will join them and
will cleave to the house of Jacob. (Isaiah 14:1) ++ And the angel
said to her, 'Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with
God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and
you shall call his name Jesus. He will be great, and will be called
the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give to him the throne
of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob
forever; and of his kingdom there will be no end.' (Luke 1:30-33)
++ The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most
High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be
called holy, the Son of God. (Luke 1:35) ++ And in that region
there were shepherds out in the field, keeping watch over their flock
by night. And an angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of
the Lord shone around them, and they were filled with fear. And the
angel said to them, 'Be not afraid; for behold, I bring you good news
of a great joy which will come to all the people; for to you is born
this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. (Luke
2:8-11) ++ Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host appeared
with the angel, praising God and saying, Glory to God in the highest,
and on earth peace to men on whom his favor rests. (Luke 2:13-14)
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INSIGHT
No person was ever honored for what he received. Honor has been the
reward for what he gave. --Calvin Coolidge {} Nothing can bring
you peace but yourself. Nothing can bring you peace but the triumph
of principles. --Ralph Waldo Emerson {} It doesn't take a hero to
order men into battle. It takes a hero to be one of those men who go
into battle. --H. Norman Schwarzkopf ++ Bravery is the capacity to
perform properly even when scared half to death. --General Omar
Bradley {} Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also
of the overcoming of it. --Helen Keller {} You can preach a
better sermon with your life than with your lips. --Oliver Goldsmith
{} He is the promised Messiah, the Son of God come to earth to offer
salvation for all mankind. --Ronald Reagan
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UPRIGHT
Follow your dreams You never know where life's gonna take ya. I
never sat and thought, 'Gosh, if I work hard I'll be president of the
United States.' It wasn't in my vocabulary. But you never know. You
never know. Trust the Lord. --President George Bush ++ In a
president, character is everything. You can't buy courage and
decency, you can't rent a strong moral sense. A president must bring
those things with him He needs to have a vision of the future he
wishes to create. But a vision is worth little if a president doesn't
have the character -- the courage and heart -- to see it through.
--Peggy Noonan {} Christians view history as a cornucopia of
complexity because we understand the doctrine of original sin. We know
that because the human race is fallen, people are capable of great
evil. But because we are made in God's image, we are also capable of
great good. --Charles Colson ++ However, the Bible conceives the
world in very real terms, and recent events have clarified what the
real world is about. It's about the struggle between goodness and
wickedness, about which our Constitution is not the ultimate
authority. --David Klinghoffer ++ For a religion that is said to
respect human rights and equality, Islam does a rather thorough job of
trampling the former and denying the latter, from Africa's west coast
to East Asia. While they're voluble in demanding tolerance for their
faith, when it comes to the suffering of minorities in Islamic
countries, American Moslems are mute. --Don Feder ++ A religion
that is not in fact the government is a potential
[CTRL] Israeli Spying In U.S. Exposé Cracks Coverup Of Sept. 11
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2849isr_spies_911.html This article appears in the Dec. 21, 2001 issue of Executive Intelligence Review. Israeli Spying In U.S. Exposé Cracks Coverup Of Sept. 11 by Edward Spannaus and Jeffrey Steinberg Just about the same time that the world was being treated to the Osama bin Laden "home video" which was supposed to provide conclusive proof that cave-man bin Laden and he alone was responsible for the Sept. 11 attacks, a story broke in the U.S. media, starting on Dec. 11, pointing in a very different direction. A week earlier, on Dec. 4, EIR's Executive Alert Service had provided the first public exposure of the presence of hostile Israeli intelligence teams on U.S. soil prior to the Sept. 11 attacks, which raised the question of Israeli foreknowledge of the attacks. Then on Dec. 11, Fox News provided a more detailed account of the ongoing U.S. government probe of Israeli operations directed against the United States—linking the current investigation and detention of more than 60 Israelis, to Sept. 11. The Fox story, by its national correspondent Carl Cameron, reported on the 60 Israelis who are being detained as part of the Justice Department's post-Sept. 11 sweep, and reported that "investigators suspect that they may have gathered intelligence about the attacks in advance and not shared it." The Fox story continues: "A highly placed investigator told Fox News there are 'tie-ins,' but when asked for details flatly refused to describe them. 'Evidence linking these Israelis to 9-11 is classified, I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It is classified information,' the source said." In subsequent stories, described below, Fox correspondent Cameron disclosed much additional information about a super-secret Israeli spy network operation in the United States which has access to records of most phone calls made in the U.S., and access to wiretap information from the FBI and other law-enforcement investigations. Some elements of the story are new, and some have been reported in bits and pieces over the past few years. Upon being informed of the breaking story about the Israeli spy teams and their alleged foreknowledge of the Sept. 11 attacks, Lyndon LaRouche commented from abroad that the story makes sense, and he urged that it be pursued and vigorously investigated. EIR views this as a matter of the highest priority, given the disaster now unfolding in the Middle East. The truth about Israeli spying on at least two U.S. Presidential Administrations may shed much light on the reluctance of both the Clinton and Bush Administrations to rein in the Israeli madmen around Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, and in the Israeli Defense Forces, which are on the verge of plunging that region—and the world—into a new Thirty Years' War. A cautionary note: As to Sept. 11, we are not saying that "Israel did it"—as some might wish to conclude. Since the morning of Sept. 11, LaRouche has defined what took place that day as a coup attempt, run by an Anglo-American-Israeli cabal, including rogue elements of the U.S. military-security establishment, for the purpose of dragging the United States into a "clash of civilizations" conflict centering in the Middle East. What has come to light so far—indicating a high-level Israeli spy operation in the United States which, among other things, has had the capacity to thwart U.S. law-enforcement and intelligence investigations—is totally consistent with LaRouche's analysis. Israeli Intelligence Network EIR's Executive Alert Service reported the following on Dec. 4: "A well-placed Washington source has alerted EIR that there is growing suspicion among U.S. government law enforcement and intelligence agencies that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has dispatched special operations teams into North America. The warning came in the context of a discussion about the recent deportation of five Israelis who were detained on Sept. 11 for suspicious behavior. The five men were on a rooftop in Hoboken, N.J., looking across the Hudson River at the World Trade Center as it was going up in flames, and police were alerted." The Alert story went on to described the case of the five Israelis in New Jersey, noting that a New York Times story on Nov. 21 had noted, "The five were asked to take polygraph tests before being allowed to leave. But Paul Kurtzberg refused on principle to divulge much about his role in the Israeli Army or subsequent work for people who may have had ties to Israeli intelligence." The Alert story also reported on the detentions of two Israelis in Cleveland, both of whom had just completed their service in the Israeli Defense Forces, and that at least 50 Israelis were being detained around the country. The came the Fox News story on Dec. 11, reporting that some 60 Israelis, "who Federal investigators have said are part of a long-running effort to spy on American government officials, are among the hundreds of
[CTRL] AppliedDigital Plans to Sell Implantable MicroChip
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=74contentid=416 AppliedDigital Plans to Sell Implantable MicroChip by CONSPIRACY PLANET Biometrics pioneer Applied Digital Solutions of Palm Beach, Florida plans to become the first company to sell microchips designed to be implanted into human beings. Implantable chips have long been discussed by control-freak government bureaucrats and denounced by those who object on religious grounds or those who understand that New World Orderlies want to control all human beings through high tech feudalism. But the company which produces the euphemistically named "Digital Angel" claims that the fear of terrorism and the drumbeat of government-media propaganda is shifting attitudes. "The bottom line is, when people are trying to regain their peace of mind, they're more open to new approaches," said Keith Bolton, Applied Digital's chief technology officer. Applied Digital's core business is selling implantable electronic chips that help farmers keep track of their cattle and other livestock. The company also makes a monitoring bracelet for Alzheimer patients, so families can use global positioning satellite systems to help find family members who might have wandered off. Or even broken out of their programming. "An asset is an asset," says an Applied Digital spokesman. The human-implantable chips would need approval from the Food and Drug Administration, which Applied Digital said it expects to receive by midyear. The company said it already has secured permission from the Federal Communications Commission -- necessary because the chips use radio frequencies. Regulatory approval is not necessary overseas, however. Applied Digital expects to be selling chips in South America in about 90 days. One potential market is kidnap targets, who could use these chips in combination with global positioning devices. Other potential applications would put the chips in the role of an ultimate ID. The next generation of subcutaneous body chips, which transmit signals from a distance, is still several years away. Applied Digital has a market value of 95 million. Its shares closed unchanged Tuesday at 38 cents on Nasdaq. "As some people wring their hands about the invasion of privacy and civil liberty, a whole other generation is going to go, 'Cool! I've always wanted to embed technology in my body.' It's going to be fashion," futurist Paul Saffo said. "One sure sign that teenagers will love it is if it terrifies their parents." The advertising tagline, "Digital Angel. Wicked Jewelry." has not been formally accepted by company management
[CTRL] Representative Traficant Reports On The Bankruptcy Of The United States
http://www.netcolony.com/news/hotwire2000/bankruptcyoftheus.html Representative Traficant Reports On The Bankruptcy Of The United States United States Congressional Record, March 1, 1993 VOL. 33, page H-1303 The Speaker - Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House. Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11. . . Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner's report that will lead to our demise. It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; Declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H. J. R. 192, 73rd. Congress in session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the offical capacities of all United States Government Offices, Officers and Departments and is futher evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only. The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a defacto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H. R. 13955 reads in part:"The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?" Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the United States of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold and silver coins can be "money" in America. Since gold and silver coinage were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded their coupons as money, or "currency." Currency is not money, but a money substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dallor equivalent in gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRN's) made no such promises, and are not "money." A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the federal United States government, not "money." The federal United States government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by the Constitution for the United States of America to issue currency of any kind, but only lawful money, - gold and silver coin. It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money, and paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money substitutes, one can only get deeper in debt. We the People no longer have any "money." Most Americans have not been paid any "money" for a very long time, perhaps not in their entire life. Now do you comprehend why you feel broke? Now, do you understand why you are "bankrupt," along with the rest of the country? Federal Reserve Notes (FRN's) are unsigned checks written on a closed account. FRN's are an inflatable paper system designed to create debt through inflation (devaluation of currency). Whenever there is an increase of the supply of a money substitute in the economy without a corresponding increase in the gold and silver backing, inflation occurs. Inflation is an invisible form of taxation that irresponsible governments inflict on their citizens. The Federal Reserve Bank who controls the supply and movement of FRN's has everybody fooled. They have access to an unlimited supply of FRN's, paying only for the printing costs of what they need. FRN's are nothing more than promissory notes for U.S. Treasury securities (T-Bills) - a promise to pay the debt to the Federal Reserve Bank. There is a fundamental difference between "paying" and "discharging" a debt. To pay a debt, you must pay with value or substance (i.e. gold, silver, barter or a commodity). With FRN's, you can only discharge a debt. You cannot pay a debt with a debt currency system. You cannot service a debt with a currency that has no backing in value or substance. No contract in common law is valid unless it involves an exchange of "good and valuable consideration." Unpayable debt transfers power and control to the sovereign power structure that has no interest in money, law, equity or justice because they have so much wealth already. Their lust is for power and control. Since the
[CTRL] Not all Jews support Israeli Naziism
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Not all Jews support Israeli Naziism
Wed Dec 19 14:58:02 2001
12.19.01
Not all Jews support Israeli Naziism
** Israeli treatment of Palestinians DIRECTLY comparable to genocidal
treatment of Native Americans
** Sharon is a God-less pig
I, Bob Anderson, feel it's time for me to put forth my own views on
Judaism, the nation of Israel, Zionism, fascism (Naziism) and human rights.
Human rights are inalienable. From the moment each person on this earth
comes into being, these rights are inherent in and integral to each of us.
No NATION or government GRANTS these rights to us -- these rights BELONG
to us. A government can acknowledge and recognize the people's
inalienable rights as such, AND as being INVIOLATE. A government can, as
fundamental principles, foreswear violating such rights and pledge to
protect and DEFEND such rights of its citizens. Other governments may
NOT adhere to such principles.
But what about those other folks, who aren't citizens of a particular
nation? Their rights -- being inherent and inalienable and NOT dependent
on ANY "recognition" in any way -- still very much exist, even if they
have NO "nation" or government." Whether or not any particular
government acknowledges and respect these rights or not, THEIR RIGHTS
ARE INALIENABLE.
Israel, though it perhaps acknowledges and defends the fundamental human
rights of its ("white" European) JEWISH citizens, fails UTTERLY and
MISERABLY to extend these operating principles to its Arab residents;
and most emphatically utterly violates the rights of Palestinians
WHOLESALE. Moreover, the Israeli government seems to take a similar view
towards the inalienable human rights of ALL Arabs and maybe All non-Jews
as well.
Clearly, this is a wretched, brutal, corrupt and ULTRA-fascistic
government which truly has become one of the Third Reich's greatest
emulators and imitators on the planet, with the possible exception of
the government of the United States, whose number one "client" Israel
most certainly is.
As a Jew, whose family lost numerous members to the inconceivable
savagery and mind-numbing systematic, organized brutality of Naziism and
the Third Reich, I am profoundly offended, sickened and saddened by
Israel's flagrant racism and constant, relentless, ongoing oppression of non-Jews.
I find it incomprehensible that so MANY Jews -- whose ancestors suffered
so much at the hands of vicious barbarians throughout much of Europe for
hundreds of years -- learned NOTHING at all from what our people were
subjected to. All they have learned is how to brutalize OTHER
defenseless, impoverished human beings; to denigrate their humanity, and
trample on their inalienable, GOD-GIVEN rights in the most egregious and
intolerable fashion.
THIS IS NOT TRUE JUDAISM. The perpetrators of these monstrous and
inhuman acts ARE NOT TRUE JEWS, so help me God Almighty. I DON'T know
what they are. and WHATEVER they believe in, it is NOT true Judaism.
Clearly, far too many of these so-called Jews have let the phrase
"chosen people" TOTALLY go to their heads in the worst way.
In fact, I and NUMEROUS friends, relatives and acquaintances are fully
cognizant of the fact that these pseudo-Jews who've so extensively taken
control of the Israeli government are ALSO viciously racist and
prejudiced EVEN towards non-European (non-Ashkenazi), Sephardic
("black"[??]) Jews WITHIN Israel itself! Absolutely true and literally
incomprehensible to people like me.
That being the case however, we can begin to discern the clear outlines
of full-blown white supremacist doctrines and philosophies underlying
the Israeli power structure.
In short and without doubt, the nation of Israel is today a prime
perpetrator of what can ONLY be called full-blown NAZIISM, directing
brutal state terrorism and military might against a completely abject,
oppressed, impoverished and defenseless captive population.
Their treatment of Palestinians is at this point a global OUTRAGE,
DIRECTLY analogous to the systematic genocidal destruction of the
American Indians and their entire way of life by the U.S. government,
and fairly close to the full-blown genocide unleashed on Jews AND
non-Jews by the Third Reich.
But WAIT -- many will say. What about the fact that Israel is surrounded
by sworn enemies who will not rest until Israel is destroyed from the
face of the Earth? Must not Israel protect itself, and must not the U.S.
help them?
To this I can say: OF COURSE, the nation of Israel -- SHAKY though
though the legitimacy of its founding and establishment may be -- has
the total right to DEFEND itself against outside AND internal
aggression. And for Arab nations whose unswerving purpose is to
annihilate Israel, their primitive and barbaric philosophy and related
aggression has NO place in this world and will NEVER be fulfilled.
Yet Israel itself has now descended to just as an intolerable, unworthy
and insupportable
[CTRL] Link-It's Not That Hard To Fake A Video!!!!!!
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[CTRL] DefenseWatch Dec. 19, 2001 Part 1
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! DefenseWatch â Dec. 19, 2001 Soldiers For The Truth (SFTT) Weekly Newsletter When we assumed the Soldier, We did not lay aside the Citizen. General George Washington, to the New York Legislature, 1775 In this weekâs Issue of DefenseWatch: War, Lies and Videotape -- -- EDITORIAL and ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF -- -- Ed Offley Editor, DefenseWatch Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] J. David Galland Deputy Editor, DefenseWatch Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] David H. Hackworth Senior Military Columnist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris Humphrey SFTT Webmaster Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- TABLE OF CONTENTS -- -- Hackâs Target for the Week: Do the Job and Get Out Article 01 â Islam Responds to the Bin Laden Tape, by Robert G. Williscroft Article 02 â Ten Things I Do Not Know Or Understand, by Lt. Col. Matthew Dodd Article 03 â Feedback: Scary Airport Security Article 04 â For the Record: Afghanistan Service Personnel Get Tax Break Article 05 â Feedback: Readers React to Hackworth Article 06 â Feedback: Army Leadership Failures Are Not New Article 07: Future Limits in Human Intelligence Collection, by J. David Galland Medal of Honor: Article 08 â A Janitorâs 10 Lessons in Leadership, by Col. James Moschgat USAF Article 09 â Crawford, William, Pvt. USA EDITOR'S NOTE: Your Support is Important! EDITOR'S NOTE: Article Submission Procedures/Subject Editors Sought GLOSSARY OF MILITARY ACRONYMS HACK BOOK SALES -- -- Hackâs Target For The Week: Do the Job and Get Out -- -- By David H. Hackworth It was a big week for television: Osama bin Laden, currently Numero Uno monster on our Hit Parade list, sharing prime time with our first-rate warriors in and over Afghanistan. First, the video marathon of OBL and his gleeful pals sitting around on pillows, hugging, kissing, high-fiving and hissing. You know, the Top Ten Tape where weird-looking cats are speaking in tongues, sipping tea, sharing nightmares and praising Allah for what a neat job their gang of goons pulled off murdering thousands of innocent noncombatants whose big worry before Sept. 11 was lunch. For those of the Greatest Generation, it must have been like watching a 1940 movie of Adolf Hitler cheerily extolling the efficiency of his latest-model oven. The tube kept flicking from OBL gloating with his groupies to maneuvers in Afghanistan that would have to be the most eclectic military operations in history: mobs of primitive warriors with horses, mules and junkyard pickup trucks at the bomb craters of Tora Bora looking as soldierly as Ringling Bros. circus clowns, being supported by the most sophisticated weaponry warfare has ever known. Good intelligence sources say OBL has vowed never to be taken alive. The word is, He'll self-vaporize as we're about to grab him. If that's the scenario, be prepared for rumors galore and OBL sightings well into the next century, kind of like what happened with Elvis. Of course, there'll also be the T-shirt â Osama at the Eternal Oasis. But no matter what goes down with OBL, all proclamations of victory will only make these twisted terrorists â who've been programmed to hate us since they were training in demolition diapers â even more determined to do their evil thing. Their loathing of us won't disappear in clouds of bomb dust. Watching the tape only reinforced my conviction that we need to wipe out OBL's worldwide al-Qaeda network along with the rest of the terrorists from Algeria to Zambia. It's clear that these zealots from hell are all hustling hard for the big bang. And once they get the lethal chemicals, the bugs and nuke bombs in their hands, bet on them being used. Speed is of the essence here â either we close these monsters down, or we get closed down by them. For centuries, if not forever. There are more than 60 states around the globe that currently provide support and sanctuary to terrorists. In some places, like Afghanistan and Iraq, we'll need to use a lot of military muscle, while in others, like the Philippines, where there are competent, reliable friendlies, we'll only need to provide advisers, intelligence info and resources. The key to this long-term global campaign is to get in, do the job, then get out fast. In Afghanistan, for example, once we've terminated OBL's gang, we need to get our military out ASAP. I worry about our Marines now defending the Kandahar airport. Lebanon in 1983,
[CTRL] DefenseWatch Dec. 19, 2001 Part 2
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! -- -- ARTICLE 02 â Ten Things I Do Not Know Or Understand -- -- By Matthew Dodd The famous satirist Will Rogers once observed, Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects. Many people do not like to admit ignorance, but it is tough to argue with Rogers' quote. From my experience as a military officer, the consensus is that folks who come across as know-it-alls are not trusted and not well respected. Today's military leaders would do themselves, and their seniors and subordinates, a great service if they took the time to reflect on the things they do not know or understand. To better facilitate discussion and reflection, let me share with you my current Top 10 list of subjects on which I freely confess my ignorance: 10. How can American John Walker, who was captured with an AK-47 strapped across his shoulders as a trained Taliban fighter against U.S. and allied forces in Afghanistan, be considered as anything but a traitor to our nation? 9. Why are so many active and reserve component folks who love the military and who have dedicated their lives to serving their country so fearful of retribution for identifying institutional faults, failures, and falsehoods that they choose to remain silent? 8. Who originated the observation that the military services are known as the Four Ds: the Dumb, the Devious, the Defiant, the Dedicated? (I will leave it to you to figure out which service belongs to which D). 7. Why does most everyone complain about poor or no turnovers when starting new jobs, but hardly anybody takes the time or makes the effort to write accurate desktop procedures/turnover binders/continuity files, etc.? 6. How does the Pentagon Joint Staff expect to succeed in developing future warfighting concepts by designating lone O-6s to lead long-term, part-time, and ad hoc working groups to study and write those concepts? 5. How can some Joint Staff general/flag officers unabashedly say that they are willingly seeking only the 75 percent solution now, knowing full well that the issue will need to be worked again in the future (on someone else's watch) to get to the 100 percent solution? 4. Why do so many retired general/flag officers encourage active junior officers to exercise their moral courage by speaking out against legacy problems, programs, and policies that those same retired general/flag officers either endorsed, ignored, or failed to change when they were on active duty? 3. Why did it take the aftermath of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to prompt a major mainstream newspaper (USA Today, âMisconduct Marks Guard Command: Lack of oversight by Pentagon, states let misbehavior flourishâ) that captures what David Hackworth and his readers have been saying for years about widespread corruption in the National Guard? 2. Why is it that nobody seems to consider the idea of military and governmental seniors seeking and accepting feedback and constructive criticism from subordinates as a leadership development tool (promotion consideration)? 1. Why is it that our military leadership, which is doing a superb job in our global war on terrorism, is powerless to stop, or at least contain, the proliferation of âPower-Point Rangers?â I believe in the words of the enormously popular philosopher, âAnonymous,â who once said, Admission of ignorance is the beginning of wisdom. Now that I have willingly admitted my ignorance, I am feeling more liberated than wise. I guess only time will tell. Lt. Col. Matthew Dodd is the pen name of an active-duty Marine Corps officer stationed at the Pentagon. He can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Table of Contents -- -- ARTICLE 03 â Scary Airport Security -- -- As a Marine recruiter, I took a few new recruits to the Memphis Airport and saw something that scared me: Army National Guard soldiers on duty. Hereâs the scary part. Army National Guardsmen generally receive less training than most warriors, but the young, under-trained Guardsmen I saw were carrying M-16s loaded with the standard NATO spec ammo which carries the ss109 bullet known as the penetrator (light armor-piercing) which will not only zip through one person but several. Moreover, they were carrying them at sling arms, where anyone with any type of sentry take-down training can get hold of the rifle. This was the wrong weapon, the wrong ammunition, and most likely insufficient training for that environment. I do know of Guardsmen who could handle that weapon in that environment, but they are very far and few between. --A
[CTRL] DefenseWatch Dec. 19, 2001 Part 3
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! ARTICLE 06 â Feedback: Army Leadership Failures Are Not New -- -- Having read David Hackworthâs column, âLet's Lock and Load Nowâ (DefenseWatch, Oct. 17), I could not agree more. Let me I cite an incident which occurred during the Persian Gulf War. Our Army commo unit (Bravo Co. 34 Signal Bn. 93rd Signal Bde.) had just deployed out from the docks to a log base to fit out and wait for orders. We were a main communications hub for VII Corps. We had drawn supplies and ammo prior to deploying and had picked up a weapon â the AT-4 anti-tank missiles â that no one in our unit â except myself and two other NCOs who were former 11Bs â were familiar with. When I saw the crates of AT-4 anti-tank missiles, I asked my 1st sergeant if I could get them out and start training the soldiers on how to fire them. He was literally appalled that I would make such a request. His response: âLook, sergeant, we are in the business of doing communications; we will never have to fire those weapons, and I plan on turning those missiles back in unopened once this war is finished.â I couldn't believe what I was hearing! Not only were we forbidden to place a loaded magazine in our M-16s, nor could the M-203 gunners draw grenades, nor were the M-60 teams allowed to break down the ammunition between ball and tracer, nor were we issued hand grenades; now we could not train up on a new weapon that had been issued to us. We received our orders to jump into the neutral zone in preparation of the VII Corps swing north then east ⦠and we convoyed to the neutral zone. As I finished the duty roster for the team, two Hummers came screaming onto the site, one with a TOW launcher on top. The young lieutenant jumped into the back of my commo rig and asked if I were operations. I pointed the frantic lieutenant in the right direction, and he jumped from my rig to ops. Within a minute, my company commander called, telling me we had an Iraqi armor regiment headed in our direction, and that we needed to establish a perimeter immediately. My first thought was to find that 1st sergeant and give him a piece of my mind. Quickly, we started deploying the soldiers around the site, then I went and found the AT-4s. We had 30 missiles for 80 [Iraqi] armored vehicles. The company commander gave the order to prepare for evacuation. A skeleton crew was designated to stay behind to cause a delaying action so that, (1) All communications rigs could be destroyed by thermite grenades, and (2) To give the main body time to get out of the area on a couple of 5-ton trucks. I and the two other NCOs broke down the AT-4s and began issuing the missiles to those designated to stay, and gave each soldier an extremely short block of instruction on how to operate the weapon. I expected we would make five hits out of 30 at best. We knew we were going to be slaughtered. Those who did not have a missile, M203 grenade launcher, or members of an M60 team were instructed to evacuate once the Iraqis were sighted. I remember it started to rain. The site where we were located was a small rise in a relatively flat area. With E-tools in hand, the soldiers began to dig in, but two to three inches down, hit solid rock. Now all we could do was move earth up in front of our positions. I wanted to scream at the futility of the situation, but continued handing out AT-4s. Soldiers lay in cold, wet puddles. Our XO knew we didn't stand a chance and broke the standing order of radio silence to report that in the distance he could see vehicles moving in our direction. Two squadrons of Apache attack helicopters answered the call. The accompanying OH-58s landed next to our site and received a sitrep from the XO, then lifted off in the direction that the lieutenant had reported the Iraqi movement. I remember the 1st sergeant walking around the perimeter giving his approval of our set-up. (I and the other two NCOs had set the whole thing up without guidance from him or the CO. In the end, the Iraqi armored regiment turned around shortly after crossing into Saudi Arabia, the Apaches never did get the opportunity to engage, and our unit went about the business of communicating. The next day, the brigade sergeant-major stopped by the site to see how everyone was doing. I gave the CSM an earful. After hearing my take on the situation, the company commander and 1st sergeant were called into my rig while I was told to wait outside. We received AT-4 training that very next day. I figured that if anyone would understand where I was coming from, it would be my command sergeant-major, for he was a Vietnam veteran. Col. Hackworthâs article struck a chord in me and brought back memories I had laid to rest. In 1996 I decided to ETS from the Army as the political environment was
[CTRL] DefenseWatch Dec. 19, 2001 Part 4
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! -- -- ARTICLE 08 â A Janitor's 10 Lessons in Leadership -- -- By Col. James Moschgat USAF William âBillâ Crawford certainly was an unimpressive figure, one you could easily overlook during a hectic day at the U.S. Air Force Academy. Mr. Crawford, as most of us referred to him back in the late 1970s, was our squadron janitor. While we cadets busied ourselves preparing for academic exams, athletic events, Saturday morning parades and room inspections, or never-ending leadership classes, Bill quietly moved about the squadron mopping and buffing floors, emptying trash cans, cleaning toilets, or just tidying up the mess 100 college-age kids can leave in a dormitory. Sadly, and for many years, few of us gave him much notice, rendering little more than a passing nod or throwing a curt, âG'morning!â in his direction as we hurried off to our daily duties. Why? Perhaps it was because of the way he did his job â he always kept the squadron area spotlessly clean, even the toilets and showers gleamed. Frankly, he did his job so well, none of us had to notice or get involved. After all, cleaning toilets was his job, not ours. Maybe it was his physical appearance that made him disappear into the background. Bill didn't move very quickly and, in fact, you could say he even shuffled a bit, as if he suffered from some sort of injury. His gray hair and wrinkled face made him appear ancient to a group of young cadets. And his crooked smile, well, it looked a little funny. Face it, Bill was an old man working in a young person's world. What did he have to offer us on a personal level? Finally, maybe it was Mr. Crawford's personality that rendered him almost invisible to the young people around him. Bill was shy, almost painfully so. He seldom spoke to a cadet unless they addressed him first, and that didn't happen very often. Our janitor always buried himself in his work, moving about with stooped shoulders, a quiet gait, and an averted gaze. If he noticed the hustle and bustle of cadet life around him, it was hard to tell. So, for whatever reason, Bill blended into the woodwork and became just another fixture around the squadron. The Academy, one of our nation's premier leadership laboratories, kept us busy from dawn till dusk. And Mr.Crawford ... well, he was just a janitor. That changed one fall Saturday afternoon in 1976. I was reading a book about World War II and the tough Allied ground campaign in Italy, when I stumbled across an incredible story. On Sept. 13, 1943, a Private William Crawford from Colorado, assigned to the 36th Infantry Division, had been involved in some bloody fighting on Hill 424 near Altavilla, Italy. The words on the page leapt out at me: âIn the face of intense and overwhelming hostile fire ... with no regard for personal safety ... on his own initiative, Private Crawford single-handedly attacked fortified enemy positions.â It continued, âfor conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at risk of life above and beyond the call of duty, the President of the United States ... â âHoly cow,â I said to my roommate, âyou're not going to believe this, but I think our janitor is a Medal of Honor winner.â We all knew Mr. Crawford was a WW II Army vet, but that didn't keep my friend from looking at me as if I was some sort of alien being. Nonetheless, we couldn't wait to ask Bill about the story on Monday. We met Mr. Crawford bright and early Monday and showed him the page in question from the book, anticipation and doubt on our faces. He starred at it for a few silent moments and then quietly uttered something like, âYep, that's me.â Mouths agape, my roommate and I looked at one another, then at the book, and quickly back at our janitor. Almost at once we both stuttered, âWhy didn't you ever tell us about it?â He slowly replied after some thought, âThat was one day in my life and it happened a long time ago.â I guess we were all at a loss for words after that. We had to hurry off to class and Bill, well, he had chores to attend to. However, after that brief exchange, things were never again the same around our squadron. Word spread like wildfire among the cadets that we had a hero in our midst â Mr. Crawford, our janitor, had won the Medal! Cadets who had once passed by Bill with hardly a glance, now greeted him with a smile and a respectful, âGood morning, Mr. Crawford.â Those who had before left a mess for the âjanitorâ to clean up started taking it upon themselves to put things in order. Most cadets routinely stopped to talk to Bill throughout the day and we even began inviting him to our formal squadron functions. He'd show up dressed in a conservative dark suit and quietly talk to those
[CTRL] AF News 20 Dec 01
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! 1821. Air Force announces OTS selections RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE, Texas (AFPN) -- The Air Force is giving 131 enlisted people the chance to trade in their stripes for gold bars after being chosen to attend Officer Training School. Air Force Recruiting Service officials conducted OTS Selection Board 0202, which met here Nov. 27 to 30. The board considered 553 total applications, selecting 357 for a 65-percent selection rate. As part of the selection process, board members review both objective and subjective factors. Objectively, the board considers each applicant's academic discipline, grade point average, and Air Force Officer Qualifying Test scores. Subjectively, board members evaluate work experience, accomplishments, adaptability, character, leadership ability, potential for future growth, and other recommendations. For active-duty enlisted members, performance reports and commander's recommendations are also evaluated. A minimum of three Air Force colonels review every application. The selection process is similar to an Air Force officer promotion board. Key to the entire process is that no single factor leads to an individual's selection or nonselection, OTS selection officials said. The average grade point average for those selected is 3.18. The average Air Force Officer Qualification Test score in the area of pilot is 57.7; for navigator, 56.2; for academic aptitude, 55.4; for verbal, 60.5; and for quantitative, 49.5. Individuals selected for OTS can expect class assignment information about eight weeks after their physical is certified for commissioning. The OTS boards meet about every six weeks here at Air Force Recruiting Service headquarters. For more information concerning OTS and the application process, active-duty members should contact their local education services office; civilians should contact the nearest Air Force recruiter. A full listing of people selected for OTS is available online at www.rs.af.mil/OTS_selections/releases.htm. (Courtesy of AFRS News Service) 1824. Technology heart of information superiority RAMSTEIN AIR BASE, Germany (AFPN) -- Information superiority continues to be a decisive factor in the Air Force's ability to defend the United States and protect its interests through aerospace power, officials said. Ensuring the right person has the right information at the right time is vital to today's warfighter. Nowhere in the Air Force is this need more apparent than in U.S. Air Forces in Europe, said Col. John W. Maluda, USAFE director of communications and information. With 91 countries in its area of responsibility, you need only look as far as Macedonia, Skopje, or Africa to see how critical information is for contingency forces. At the heart of information superiority is information technology, the 'guts,' the 'machinery' that makes information flow, Maluda said. It has forever changed the way the Air Force performs, educates, and operates from a global perspective. Information technology enables the Air Force to better leverage information to support contingency and humanitarian efforts, retrieving near real time information from globally distributed networks and placing it at the fingertips of the warfighter within seconds, he said. The resulting impact on air campaign planning and execution demands the Air Force manage its IT infrastructure as a weapon system and effectively arm communications and information warriors to operate, maintain, and safeguard that weapon system. The new One Air Force...One Network vision lays the foundation for making tremendous advances in network systems, enhancing the delivery of information to everyone who needs it. In USAFE, we are working hard to turn One Air Force...One Network into reality, said Gen. Gregory Martin, USAFE commander. From our 'first look' portal initiative to our efforts at centralizing server and network functions, we're exploiting the value of quantum leaps in storage capacity and network technologies. This visionary approach will provide major progress in inter-office, inter-organization and inter-personal connectivity, which will allow us to leverage the value of our people in new and exciting ways, he said. USAFE endeavors to sustain steady-state in-garrison and deployed missions, while fortifying its readiness posture to respond to real-world European Command and NATO contingency scenarios, Maluda said. It is my responsibility to ensure USAFE's communications and information professionals are at the forefront of all efforts to manage information like a weapons system. We're implementing rigorous training and standardization-evaluation programs in network control centers to ensure communications and information professionals achieve and maintain crew position certification levels commensurate with operating and maintaining IT weapon systems, he said. USAFE communications
[CTRL] Fwd: Peres Himself Shudders; and Evil Israeli-Style Unleashed
---BeginMessage--- ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! IF YOU DON'T GET MER, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT! YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T DEPEND ON CNN! === To receive MER regularly with our compliments: http://www.MiddleEast.Org/subscribe == PERES HIMSELF SHUDDERS OVER WAR CRIMES AND EVIL, MADE IN ISRAEL MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 12/19/2001: Shimon Peres ought to know. This is hardly the first time the Israelis have been caught at what for most of the world deserve to be categorized as war crimes. And for every time they have been caught there are ever so many other times that the dastardly things they have done have been successfully hidden from view, so far that is. Peres himself was the temporary Prime Minister responsible for ordering and attempted to cover-up the horrendous Qana massacre just a few years ago (see http://www.middleeast.org/archives/qana.htm). Today he serves a Prime Minister with a lenghthy history of war crimes charges leveled against him personally. There are in fact many blood-curdling incidents sprinkled throughout the history of Israel's military occupation of the Palestinian people, many of which Peres knows about but the rest of us don't, so far that is. For the moment we'll mention just one more major one -- the Shin Bet scandal of 1984 -- the one which lead to the Israelis themselves trying to change the fact that they are, or were depending on your perspective, the only Western and democratic country in the world where brutal torture was, is, actually legal. ISRAELI DEATH SQUAD DISARMED MEN AND SHOT THEM By Phil Reeves in Salfit, West Bank [The Independent, 15 December 2001]: The Israeli Foreign Minister, Shimon Peres, says some of his government's military strikes against the Palestinians make him shudder. Mr Peres would have had good reason to shudder yesterday, had he listened to the testimonies of the residents of Salfit. They described in detail how an Israeli undercover death squad arrived in the West Bank town in a pre-dawn raid and shot two young policemen at close range as they lay unarmed on the ground. The Israeli soldiers, dressed in black, spoke Arabic so fluently that Iman Herzala who heard them talking in the street outside her house at first wondered whether they were Palestinian forces taking part in a training exercise. But that was before she saw the executions, less than 100 yards from her front door. Residents had scraped earth over the spot, but yesterday afternoon patches of blood were visible. A low wall bore the marks of several bullets. Looking hollow-eyed and distressed, Mrs Herzala, 37, who has six children, described the last moments of Dia Nabil Mahmoud, 19, and Abdul Ashour, 22. They were among seven people to be killed by the Israelis yesterday in raids on more than four communities in the occupied territories as Ariel Sharon, the Israeli Prime Minister, increased his military pressure on the Palestinians. At the same time, Israeli tanks and bulldozers carried out their biggest housing demolition of the intifada at Khan Younis in the Gaza strip, knocking down 35 houses and making 345 people homeless. Mr Mahmoud a member of Yasser Arafat's Force 17 security force and Mr Ashour, from Palestinian military intelligence, were shot in the early stages of the Israeli raid in which tanks and bulldozers, backed by helicopters, came thundering into the Palestinian-run town of 10,000 near Nablus at around 2am. Mrs Herzala said: The two boys came and knocked on my door, and told me that the Israelis were invading the town. I opened the door and asked them to come inside, but they refused and went on walking up the street. The Israeli soldiers came up to them and asked them to put down their weapons they only had one and put their hands behind their backs. They put down the gun. The Israelis asked them to lie on the ground, which they did. Then they started shooting them with machine-guns. She said she watched the scene illuminated by the light of the soldiers' torches by peering out of her front door. At the same time, Khadiji al-Fataj, 61, was looking down at the spot where the execution took place from the window of her home, a few doors from Mrs Herzala's. She said: I heard soldiers asking the policemen to stop and lie down. One was on one side of the road, and one on the other. I saw them being shot. Yesterday afternoon, as the
[CTRL] Anthrax, Afghan atrocities, CIA misdeeds, CIA anthrax, Mouammar, Iraq
-Caveat Lector- also includes, the CIA at home and ID Chips http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A49502-2001Dec15?language=printer Capitol Hill Anthrax Matches Army's Stocks 5 Labs Can Trace Spores to Ft. Detrick By Rick Weiss and Susan Schmidt Washington Post Staff Writers Sunday, December 16, 2001; Page A01 Genetic fingerprinting studies indicate that the anthrax spores mailed to Capitol Hill are identical to stocks of the deadly bacteria maintained by the U.S. Army since 1980, according to scientists familiar with the most recent tests. Although many laboratories possess the Ames strain of anthrax involved in this fall's bioterrorist attacks, only five laboratories so far have been found to have spores with perfect genetic matches to those in the Senate letters, the scientists said. And all those labs can trace back their samples to a single U.S. military source: the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Disease (USAMRIID) at Fort Detrick, Md. http://nl4.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_action=docp_docid=0F076394754 5A950p_docnum=1 REPORTED ALLIANCE ATROCITIES PROBED Published on December 16, 2001. Author(s):Patrick Healy, and Elizabeth Neuffer, Globe Staff KABUL, Afghanistan - The International Committee of the Red Cross, the organization committed to protecting civilians and prisoners in war, is investigating allegations of torture, mistreatment, and other harm that hundreds of prisoners and detainees are believed to have suffered at the hands of the Northern Alliance across Afghanistan.A Red Cross official in Kabul said some prisoners, chiefly Taliban fighters, had been burned or subjected to sordid mistreatment. http://pw1.netcom.com/~ncoic/cia_info.htm Results of the 1973 Church Committee Hearings, on CIA misdeeds, and the 1984 Iran/Contra Hearings the CIA has evolved from an agency whose primary assignment was to gather intelligence into a powerful entity whose help is enlisted to help attain American foreign policy goals. Since 1947, the Agency has been involved in the internal affairs of over fifty countries on six different continents. Although an exact number is impossible to determine, there are over 20,000 employees affiliated with the organization. Of these, more than 6,000 serve in the clandestine services, the arm of the CIA that is responsible for covert operations. http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/12/16/cia.anthrax/index.html Official: CIA uses anthrax, but no link to letters From David Ensor CNN Washington Bureau WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The CIA uses anthrax in its bio-warfare program but the bacteria did not make it into tainted letters sent to two U.S. senators and several news organizations, an agency official said Sunday. National Post http://www.nationalpost.com/commentary/columnists/story.html?f=/stories/2001 1215/877977.html December 15, 2001 Is he a public servant or a public enemy? Alleged CSIS link begs question: Just who is Mouammar? Paul Wells PARIS - A riddle: Why is it a greater crime to know Youssef than it is to be Youssef Mouammar? The question is more than academic for Boualem Chibani, a 38-year-old Algerian resident of France, who was sentenced on Nov. 30 to four years in French prison for terrorist conspiracy. In its ruling, the Court found the essential element of the prosecution's case to be the accused's relations with Gilles Breault, alias Youssef Mouammar. Youssef Mouammar lives in Montreal. During the Paris trial, the prosecution revealed more than a dozen vicious threats of terrorist attacks against targets in Canada, France and the United States, all emanating from an organization Mr. Mouammar used to run. http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/12/17/23790.html RUSSIA FIGHTING FOR IRAQ On Sunday, the war against the Taliban and Al-Qaida carried out by the anti-terrorist coalition with the US at the head neared its conclusion. Some officials at the White House are in favor of spreading the anti-terrorism war to other outcast countries. Most Americans support the extending of the war to other countries, while 78 percent of US citizens speak in support of a military strike on Iraq. This is testified to by the results of a poll carried out in the US by Newsweek. According to the poll, 75 percent of Americans support strikes on (terrorist targets| in other countries of the Middle East. Sixty-six percent believe that such strikes might be delivered on targets in Somalia and at the Philippines. The Russian position on this question was expressed by Vladimir Putin. Russia hopes that the US will consult with European countries before starting a war on terrorism beyond the bounds of Afghanistan, the Russian President said in his interview with the Financial Times. However, the Russian president warned against military agression against Iraq. The anti-terrorist coalition|s next task should block sources of terrorist activities| financing, he stated. Though, for the time being, we have neither information nor proof of
[CTRL] A Greeting card for Friends from Bill
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Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?
-Caveat Lector- From: Xxx Yyy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Even given that the details you give may be correct Don't take my word for it, study it for yourself -- it's documented historical fact. the fact that there is a time similarity between a solstice celebration and Christmas doesn't mean that there has been no history of Christmas celebrations over the last 2,000 years. Actually, 'Christmas' celebrations are much newer than 2000 years; the early Christian church did NOT celebrate Christ's birth, and indeed prohibited Christians from partaking of the pagan celebrations taking place in late December in the various cultures they found themselves in. It was only when the Christian church became the dominant church did it feel secure enough to lift the winter solstice celebration ban and changed it into Christ's birthday... The holiday was kept alive by its association with Christianity rather than the other way around. The reality is the exact opposite -- people continued their beloved celebrations even when the church prohibited it, so the church decided on a if you can't beat 'em, join 'em and adapted the customs to the Christian church; same thing happened with Halloween and Easter, both of which were pagan celebrations which the church usurped for it's own uses. I really don't think that those who celebrate the Winter Holidays are calling themselves pagans because the time frame is there. Of course they dont'; but it doesn't change the FACT that the decorating of evergreen trees, hanging mistletoe, brewing wassail, putting up lights against the dark of the year, flying reindeer, and magical spirits/elves who hand out gifts and edible treats all come from pagan celebrations and have absolutely NOTHING to do with the birth, life, and death of Jesus Christ and never did, except for when the Christian church decided to adapt the customs to itself and therefore put a Christian MYTH to those celebrations (e.g., the star on top of the tree supposedly representing the star of Bethlehem, or a Catholic bishop/saint from Turkey being superimposed onto the pre-existing Yule god)... Winter Holidays is such a forced, shared ritual. In time we Jews will be asked why we aren't celebrating Winter Holidays with the rest of the community? What will our answer be? It certainly has been much easier for us to answer why we don't celebrate Christmas. I've always wondered why Jews don't hang lights on their houses for Hannukah, since it IS the 'Festival of Lights'... I also think that Jews need to get ornaments/decorations as tacky as Christians put up for Christmas, e.g. someone should come up with a bubble-light menorah... (I also think God has a special Hell for people who put up plastic light-up creches; God is going to demand of such people when their time comes: What?! You really think we all looked that ugly?! Down below with ye!) ;-) A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?
-Caveat Lector- From: Xxx Yyy As I stated that I am Jewish, are you implying it was because of the sins of the Jews that the crucifixion took place (not very nice on your part) or is it that you don't read carefully? Supposedly Christ died for the sins of ALL humanity, not just for the Jews (of which Christ was one, most people forget); He was the sacrificial scapegoat who took on all the sins of humanity, which were washed away by His death. His actual manner of death OTOH, crucifixion,was due to the ROMAN authorities, not the Jewish authorities. Death by crucifixion was reserved for those convicted of high crimes and misdemeanors against the Roman government; the Roman authorities allowed the Jewish Sanhedrin to impose the death penalty for other crimes, but Jews were NOT allowed to crucify the condemned, their death sentences were carried out by stoning the condemned. The fact that gospel says that Christ was crucified shows that He was killed by the Romans, not by the Jews (not to say that certain elements in Jewish society of the time may not have welcomed His demise, as they found Christ too much of a troublemaker), and that the Romans killed Him because they considered Him a strong threat to the Roman government. June www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- * * * * * http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/15/business/worldbusiness/15BIZ-OIL.html December 15, 2001 BUSINESS As the War Shifts Alliances, Oil Deals Follow By NEELA BANERJEE with SABRINA TAVERNISE There is no oil in Afghanistan, but there are oil politics, and Washington is subtly tending to them, using the promise of energy investments in Central Asia to nurture a budding set of political alliances in the region with Russia, Kazakhstan and, to some extent, Uzbekistan. Since the Sept. 11 attacks, the United States has lauded the region as a stable oil supplier, in a tacit comparison with the Persian Gulf states that have been viewed lately as less cooperative. The State Department is exploring the potential for post-Taliban energy projects in the region, which has more than 6 percent of the world's proven oil reserves and almost 40 percent of its gas reserves. The United States government cannot compel investment, but it can clear away diplomatic and bureaucratic obstacles. Western oil companies say warming relations with regional powers could yield small openings. Better ties between Russia and the United States, for example, have accelerated a thaw that began more than a year ago over pipeline routes from the Caspian Sea to the West. The sharp edges are off that discussion, and things are seen as less of a threat, said Martijn Minderhoud, a senior regional vice president for Royal Dutch/Shell. But any payoff remains distant. The entrenched problems that hobbled oil investment in Russia and Central Asia before September still exist. Oil companies and regional experts wonder whether significant new oil and gas reservoirs will be opened to foreign investment, whether onerous laws and tax codes will be reworked and whether persistent corruption can be reduced. This is a period of reassessments among oil companies, and a time of cautious optimism, said Scott Horton, a partner at the law firm of Patterson, Belknap Webb Tyler in Manhattan. But all have been badly burned in the former Soviet Union before. Skeptics, especially in the Islamic world, contend that oil interests lie at the heart of the West's war in Afghanistan. The Pipeline of Greed, read the headline on a recent article in the Pakistani newspaper Dawn about the American-led attacks on the Taliban and Al Qaeda. The war on terrorism may well be a war for resources, it said. The Bush administration says that its war goals have been clear and do not involve oil. There is no such hidden agenda, said an administration official. Operation Enduring Freedom is meant to get rid of terrorism in Afghanistan, Central Asia and the surrounding areas. Still, the administration lately has discreetly overlooked the pitfalls of doing business in the former Soviet Union. During a visit a week ago to Kazakhstan, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell said he was particularly impressed with the money that American oil companies were investing there. He estimated that $200 billion could flow into Kazakhstan during the next 5 to 10 years. Two weeks earlier, on a visit to Russia, Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham championed the cause of increased foreign investment in Russia's oil industry. On the same trip, David J. O'Reilly, the chairman of ChevronTexaco (news/quote), said his company was reviewing possible projects in the Russian Far East. Pipelines are the clearest realm of progress. For years the United States and Russia clashed over routes to transport oil and gas from the Caspian Sea region to lucrative Western markets and the political and economic power that control of those networks conferred. Russia wanted pipelines built on its territory, and some were. The United States backed a pipeline from Baku, Azerbaijan, to the Turkish Mediterranean port of Ceyhan, bypassing Russia entirely. The pipeline consortium is led by BP and represented by Baker Botts, the law firm of James A. Baker III, a Bush family confidant and former secretary of state. Over the last year, Russia's opposition to that route has subsided, and in October, the oil ministry invited BP to make a presentation about it to domestic oil companies. Industry analysts said that meeting would have been unthinkable if ties between the United States and Russia had not improved. Russia's largest oil company, Lukoil, confirmed that it was seriously looking into investing in the project. The arc of countries in Central Asia where Western oil companies work grazes Afghanistan. But the value of Afghanistan itself, if any, might be as a pipeline route. Four years ago, the Unocal Corp. (news/quote) with the State Department's backing negotiated with the Taliban to build a pipeline through Afghanistan linking Turkmenistan, which is rich in natural gas but landlocked, to Pakistan. Although Pakistan has called for reviving the pipeline, industry experts say oil companies are so far not interested. But the plan could be dusted off. Once we bomb the hell out of
Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?
June, I dislike being put in the position of defending Christian history, but I've learned that charming but simplistic understandings of the culture of others is foolish. I would suggest you go to the Catholic Encyclopedia to learn Catholic history. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03724b.htm Volumes have been written through the years arguing the details of how Christmas was named, celebrated, how the time frame was played out, differences between cultures, etc. Whether one accepts the truth of a religious belief, one must understand that intelligent people have followed the path of that belief for their own reasons. In addition it would be foolish to deny that for at least 1700 years growing numbers of Christians associated the rituals with their belief in the birth of Christ rather than associating the rituals with a belief in paganism. There is growing tension as those believing in Christianity are being asked to split themselves in two, one part celebrating Winter Holidays while the other part attempts to celebrate Christmas. As I said, it will not be the end of Christmas in America. The situation is much more complex than that.
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---BeginMessage--- http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20011216/ts/attack_wtc_germany_dc_1.html Sunday December 16 9:23 PM ET German Firm Probes Final World Trade Center Deals By Erik Kirschbaum PIRMASENS, Germany (Reuters) - German computer experts are working round the clock to unlock the truth behind an unexplained surge in financial transactions made just before two hijacked planes crashed into New York's World Trade Center on September 11. Were criminals responsible for the sharp rise in credit card transactions that moved through some computer systems at the WTC shortly before the planes hit the twin towers? Or was it coincidence that unusually large sums of money, perhaps more than $100 million, were rushed through the computers as the disaster unfolded? A world leader in retrieving data, German-based firm Convar is trying to answer those questions and help credit card companies, telecommunications firms and accountants in New York recover their records from computer hard drives that have been partially damaged by fire, water or fine dust. Using a pioneering laser scanning technology to find data on damaged computer hard drives and main frames found in the rubble of the World Trade Center and other nearby collapsed buildings, Convar has recovered information from 32 computers that support assumptions of dirty doomsday dealings. ``The suspicion is that inside information about the attack was used to send financial transaction commands and authorizations in the belief that amid all the chaos the criminals would have, at the very least, a good head start,'' said Convar director Peter Henschel. ``Of course it is also possible that there were perfectly legitimate reasons for the unusual rise in business volume,'' he told Reuters in an interview. PROFITING FROM DISASTER? ``It could turn out that Americans went on an absolute shopping binge on that Tuesday morning. But at this point there are many transactions that cannot be accounted for,'' Henschel said. ``Not only the volume but the size of the transactions was far higher than usual for a day like that. There is a suspicion that these were possibly planned to take advantage of the chaos.'' Nearly 3,300 people were killed in the attacks that destroyed the World Trade Center. Some 30,000 people in the buildings, symbols of America's financial might, were able to escape between the time the planes crashed and about an hour later when they collapsed -- even though many of the unmanned computers continued working. The United States blames the al Qaeda group led by Saudi-born Osama bin Laden for the attack and has since waged war on the Taliban regime in Afghanistan that sheltered them. ADVANCE KNOWLEDGE OF ATTACK? There are several data retrieval companies in the United States and Europe, but Convar said it has won the lion's share of the contracts from the World Trade Center because of its laser scanning technology. Convar developed the laser scanner two years ago that made it possible to retrieve data from badly damaged computers. With a staff of 30 in its high-security facility in Pirmasens near the French border, the firm has worked with the U.S. armed forces in Germany as well as German federal police for the last 15 years. Its offices in Pirmasens, a town of 36,000 still suffering from the departure of some 4,000 American soldiers stationed here during the Cold War, are closely guarded behind high fences and monitored by dozens of security cameras. Inside the building, an endless series of code-operated door locks keeps unwelcome visitors away. In the center of the facility is a 120 square meter (1,292 square foot), dust-free ''clean room'' where the damaged computer drives are coaxed back to life. Citing client privacy, Henschel declined to say which companies Convar is working for, or provide details about the data retrieved so far. But he said the raw material, up to 40 gigabytes per computer hard drive, is sent immediately by satellite or courier back to New York. MONEY TRAIL Richard Wagner, a data retrieval expert at the company, said illegal transfers of more than $100 million might have been made immediately before and during the disaster. ``There is a suspicion that some people had advance knowledge of the approximate time of the plane crashes in order to move out amounts exceeding $100 million,'' Wagner said. ``They thought that the records of their transactions could not be traced after the main frames were destroyed.'' The companies are paying between $20,000 and $30,000 for each computer recovered, Henschel said. The high recovery costs are one reason why only a limited number of hard drives are being examined. Convar has turned down a request by one British newspaper to try to recover personal last hour e-mails sent by someone trapped in the doomed building. Henschel said the companies in the United States were working together with the FBI to piece together what happened on September 11 and that he was
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-Caveat Lector- ``Very nice,'' I said. ``But why did you bring me up here?'' ``It's time for you to see the fnords,'' he replied. Then I woke up in bed and it was the next morning. I made breakfast in a pretty nasty mood, wondering if I'd seen the fnords, whatever the hell they were, in the hours he had blacked out, or if I would see them as soon as I went out into the street. I had some pretty gruesome ideas about them, I must admit. Creatures with three eyes and tentacles, survivors from Atlantis, who walked among us, invisible due to some form of mind shield, and did hideous work for the Illuminati. It was unnerving to contemplate, and I finally gave in to my fears and peeked out the window, thinking it might be better to see them from a distance first. Nothing. Just ordinary sleepy people, heading for their busses and subways. That calmed me a little, so I set out the toast and coffee and fetched the New York Times from the hallway. I turned the radio to WBAI and caught some good Vivaldi, sat down, grabbed a piece of toast and started skimming the first page. Then I saw the fnords. The feature story involved another of the endless squabbles between Russia and the U.S. in the UN General Assembly, and after each direct quote from the Russian delegate I read a quite distinct ``Fnord!'' The second lead was about a debate in congress on getting the troops out of costa Rica; every argument presented by Senator Bacon was followed by another ``Fnord!'' At the bottom of the page was a Times depth-type study of the growing pollution problem and the increasing use of gas masks among New Yorkers; the most distressing chemical facts were interpolated with more ``Fnords.'' Suddenly I saw Hagbard's eyes burning into me and heard his voice: ``Your heart will remain calm. Your adrenalin gland will remain calm. Calm, all-over calm. You will not panic. you will look at the fnord and see the it. You will not evade it or black it out. you will stay calm and face it.'' And further back, way back: my first-grade teacher writing FNORD on the blackboard, while a wheel with a spiral design turned and turned on his desk, turned and turned, and his voice droned on, IF YOU DON'T SEE THE FNORD IT CAN'T EAT YOU, DON'T SEE THE FNORD, DON'T SEE THE FNORD . . . I looked back at the paper and still saw the fnords. This was one step beyond Pavlov, I realized. The first conditioned reflex was to experience the panic reaction (the activation syndrome, it's technically called) whenever encountering the word ``fnord.'' The second conditioned reflex was to black out what happened, including the word itself, and just to feel a general low-grade emergency without knowing why. And the third step, of course, was to attribute this anxiety to the news stories, which were bad enough in themselves anyway. Of course, the essence of control is fear. The fnords produced a whole population walking around in chronic low-grade emergency, tormented by ulcers, dizzy spells, nightmares, heart palpitations and all the other symptoms of too much adrenalin. All my left-wing arrogance and contempt for my countrymen melted, and I felt a genuine pity. No wonder the poor bastards believe anything they're told, walk through pollution and overcrowding without complaining, watch their son hauled off to endless wars and butchered, never protest, never fight back, never show much happiness or eroticism or curiosity or normal human emotion, live with perpetual tunnel vision, walk past a slum without seeing either the human misery it contains or the potential threat it poses to their security . . . Then I got a hunch, and turned quickly to the advertisements. it was as I expected: no fnords. That was part of the gimmick, too: only in consumption, endless consumption, could they escape the amorphous threat of the invisible fnords. I kept thinking about it on my way to the office. If I pointed out a fnord to somebody who hadn't been deconditioned, as Hagbard deconditioned me, what would he or she say? They'd probably read the word before or after it. ``No this word,'' I'd say. And they would again read an adjacent word. But would their panic level rise as the threat came closer to consciousness? I preferred not to try the experiment; it might have ended with a psychotic fugue in the subject. The conditioning, after all, went back to grade school. No wonder we all hate those teachers so much: we have a dim, masked memory of what they've done to us in converting us into good and faithful servants for the Illuminati. from The Illuminatus Trilogy -Anton Wilson Shea- fnord A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by
