"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-20 Thread Alan T Litchfield
About the network switch over. We have just done that and how well applications play depends upon what protocols and configurations are set up, and how switches are managed (oh so many variables). Certainly, when we had Novell (which served well for decades) it had an annoying habit of resettin

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-20 Thread Robert Lauriston
Best practice is to use a version control system such as Subversion. Gives you the performance of local files, all the advantages of network sharing, plus additional advantages. On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM, rebecca officer wrote: > Hi Gary > > That's interesting. It sounds very like the probl

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-19 Thread rebecca officer
; Syed.Hosain at aeris.net; > alan at alphabyte.co.nz; poshedly at bellsouth.net; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! > > Hi Ken > > I'm the person who asked Kapil to clarify, so I suspect I'

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-19 Thread Alan T Litchfield
About the network switch over. We have just done that and how well applications play depends upon what protocols and configurations are set up, and how switches are managed (oh so many variables). Certainly, when we had Novell (which served well for decades) it had an annoying habit of resetti

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-19 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
at > aeris.net<mailto:Syed.Hosain at aeris.net>; > alan at alphabyte.co.nz<mailto:alan at alphabyte.co.nz>; poshedly at > bellsouth.net<mailto:poshedly at bellsouth.net>; framers at > lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-19 Thread Robert Lauriston
Best practice is to use a version control system such as Subversion. Gives you the performance of local files, all the advantages of network sharing, plus additional advantages. On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM, rebecca officer wrote: > Hi Gary > > That's interesting. It sounds very like the probl

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-19 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
..@aeris.net<mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net>; > a...@alphabyte.co.nz<mailto:a...@alphabyte.co.nz>; > poshe...@bellsouth.net<mailto:poshe...@bellsouth.net>; > framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a proble

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-19 Thread rebecca officer
syed.hos...@aeris.net; > a...@alphabyte.co.nz; poshe...@bellsouth.net; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! > > Hi Ken > > I'm the person who asked Kapil to clarify, so I suspect I've contributed > to

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-19 Thread Zimmerman, Gary
ary 16, 2013 2:02 PM > To: isa...@adobe.com; kve...@adobe.com; syed.hos...@aeris.net; > a...@alphabyte.co.nz; poshe...@bellsouth.net; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! > > Hi Ken > > I'm the

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-18 Thread Zimmerman, Gary
February 16, 2013 2:02 PM > To: isaacs at adobe.com; kverma at adobe.com; Syed.Hosain at aeris.net; > alan at alphabyte.co.nz; poshedly at bellsouth.net; framers at > lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! > >

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-17 Thread rebecca officer
more problems (so far). OK? -- Ken From: Kapil Verma To: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)" ; Dov Isaacs ; Alan T Litchfield ; "framers at lists.frameusers.com" Sent: Fri, February 15, 2013 7:33:39 AM Subject: RE: "Fr

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-17 Thread rebecca officer
No more problems (so far). OK? -- Ken From: Kapil Verma To: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)" ; Dov Isaacs ; Alan T Litchfield ; "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Sent: Fri, February 15, 2013 7:33:39 AM Subject: RE: "FrameMaker h

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-16 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Ken, I think you are wrong. The tone has not been argumentative, but several people (myself included) have merely been saying the same/ similar things. Now, if your co-worker is still experiencing problems with opening files across the network then you need to look at the local installatio

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-16 Thread Ken Poshedly
quot;Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)" ; Dov Isaacs ; Alan T Litchfield ; "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Sent: Fri, February 15, 2013 7:33:39 AMSubject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Hello Everyone,  Hope you are well. Well, there h

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-15 Thread Kapil Verma
s.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 5:43 AM To: Dov Isaacs; Alan T Litchfield; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Hi, Dov. What you say below is indeed what I woul

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-15 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Ken, I think you are wrong. The tone has not been argumentative, but several people (myself included) have merely been saying the same/ similar things. Now, if your co-worker is still experiencing problems with opening files across the network then you need to look at the local installat

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-15 Thread Johan Anglemark
On 2013-02-14 14:44, Ken Poshedly wrote: > I posted my first frameusers list inquiry Wednesday morning, but never > saw it or any replies for quite sometime. > > After waiting an hour or so and not seeing either my message or any > replies on the frameusers list, I posted to the techwr-l e-mail lis

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-15 Thread dave.st...@gdc4s.com
acs [mailto:isa...@adobe.com] Sent: 2013-02-14-Thursday 16:05 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Cc: Stamm, David-P45904; techwr-l at techwr-l.com Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! All, Sorry I couldn't respond to this thread earlier. Driv

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-15 Thread Dave.Stamm
acs [mailto:isa...@adobe.com] Sent: 2013-02-14-Thursday 16:05 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Stamm, David-P45904; techw...@techwr-l.com Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! All, Sorry I couldn't respond to this thread earlier. Driving

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-15 Thread Ken Poshedly
K? -- Ken From: Kapil Verma To: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)" ; Dov Isaacs ; Alan T Litchfield ; "framers at lists.frameusers.com" Sent: Fri, February 15, 2013 7:33:39 AM Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit&qu

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-15 Thread Kapil Verma
n Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 5:43 AM To: Dov Isaacs; Alan T Litchfield; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Hi, Dov. What you say below is indeed what I would e

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-15 Thread Johan Anglemark
On 2013-02-14 14:44, Ken Poshedly wrote: I posted my first frameusers list inquiry Wednesday morning, but never saw it or any replies for quite sometime. After waiting an hour or so and not seeing either my message or any replies on the frameusers list, I posted to the techwr-l e-mail list (and

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-15 Thread John Sgammato
...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Poshedly > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:17 PM > *To:* dave.st...@gdc4s.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com; > techw...@techwr-l.com > *Subject:* Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!* > *** >

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-15 Thread Ken Poshedly
bs, Richard" To: Ken Poshedly ; "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Cc: "techw...@techwr-l.com" Sent: Thu, February 14, 2013 4:39:30 PM Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Ken Poshedly wrote: > Fourth, my coworker has experienced n

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-15 Thread Ken Poshedly
nt, but as I also said, I will be glad to provide this rep's name and e-mail address so any of you can follow up with him on your own.-- Ken in AtlantaFrom: Dov Isaacs To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Cc: "techw...@techwr-l.com" Sent: Thu, February 14, 2013 4:08:42 PM

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread John Sgammato
framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Poshedly > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:17 PM > *To:* Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com; > techwr-l at techwr-l.com > *Subject:* Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit"

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
rom: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:17 PM To: dave.st...@gdc4s.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com; techw...@techwr-l.com Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must q

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
t techwr-l.com<mailto:techwr-l at techwr-l.com> Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 2:52:16 PM Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! 2013-02-13-03T19:50Z ?_YIKES_! If Ken was informed correctly, below ? and I _really_ hope he was _not_ ? then that effective

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:24 PM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); Alan T Litchfield; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Importance: High With regards to network folders and drives, Adobe software in

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:24 PM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); Alan T Litchfield; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Importance: High With regards to network folders and drives, Adobe software in

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Combs, Richard
Ken Poshedly wrote: > Of COURSE things work faster when all are on the same drive -- I just happen > to mention it here. I guess I wasn't sufficiently clear. That's not what I said -- or meant. What's faster is reading from or writing to a drive that's _inside your PC_ and _directly connected_

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Combs, Richard
Ken Poshedly wrote: > Of COURSE things work faster when all are on the same drive -- I just happen > to mention it here. I guess I wasn't sufficiently clear. That's not what I said -- or meant. What's faster is reading from or writing to a drive that's _inside your PC_ and _directly connected_

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Ken Poshedly
bs, Richard" To: Ken Poshedly ; "framers at lists.frameusers.com" Cc: "techwr-l at techwr-l.com" Sent: Thu, February 14, 2013 4:39:30 PM Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Ken Poshedly wrote: > Fourth, my coworker has experie

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Combs, Richard
Ken Poshedly wrote: > Fourth, my coworker has experienced no FM crashes since moving his work files > to > his hard drive where his FM program files are also located. Also, his files > now > seem to open and process far faster than before. Go figure. Go figure? You really find it surprising tha

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Combs, Richard
Ken Poshedly wrote: > Fourth, my coworker has experienced no FM crashes since moving his work files > to > his hard drive where his FM program files are also located. Also, his files > now > seem to open and process far faster than before. Go figure. Go figure? You really find it surprising that

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Ken Poshedly
t;techwr-l at techwr-l.com" Sent: Thu, February 14, 2013 4:08:42 PM Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! All, Sorry I couldn?t respond to this thread earlier. Driving much of the day yesterday and I don?t ?do e-mail? while driving. J I a

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! I think that there may be some confusion about local vs. network folders/drives. Perhaps I read too much into Ken's responses from the Adobe tech! In my case, all application e

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
PM To: Alan T Litchfield; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! I think that there may be some confusion about local vs. network folders/drives. Perhaps I read too much into Ken's responses from the Adobe tech! In my case, a

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
FICE.corp.adobe.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Sgammato Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:12 PM To: Alan T Litchfield Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must q

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
SAACS-OFFICE.corp.adobe.com From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Sgammato Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:12 PM To: Alan T Litchfield Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:50 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; techw...@techwr-l.com Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! 2013-02-13-03T19:50Z ¡_YIKES_! If Ken was informed correctly,

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:50 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; techwr-l at techwr-l.com Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! 2013-02-13-03T19:50Z ?_YIKES_! If

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Bethany Lee
Coatsworth; FrameMaker Users List Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Jeff Coatsworth wrote: > I'm getting that one right after this one occurs - 11014, 7732533, 7724103, > 5985284 > > I've figured out that it's something to do wi

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Harro de Jong
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan T Litchfield > > There is some weird behaviour on the list this morning. I seem to be getting > the > messages in discontinuous threads and out of order. Probably because the c

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Yes, well, some of us remember using a punch card and a knitting needle. You stabbed the card bundle somewhere along the edge with the knitting needle, shook the deck, and the ones that fell out were the ones you wanted. More sophisticated systems used two knitting needles, which was the upper

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Ken Poshedly
ot;framers@lists.frameusers.com" Sent: Thu, February 14, 2013 7:27:22 AM Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan T Litchfield > > Ther

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Bethany Lee
; FrameMaker Users List Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Jeff Coatsworth wrote: > I'm getting that one right after this one occurs - 11014, 7732533, 7724103, > 5985284 > > I've figured out that it's something to do wi

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Alan T Litchfield
There is some weird behaviour on the list this morning. I seem to be getting the messages in discontinuous threads and out of order. It's like listening to a conversation in a bar. Alan On 14/02/13 9:09 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > Note that Ken and his coworker were able to reproduce the prob

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Now about those questions. On 14/02/13 3:48 AM, Ken Poshedly wrote: > So the questions: > > * What do those internal error numbers specifically mean? I have no idea and don't really want to know. > * Is/are the error/errors caused by a hardware problem or a software > problem? Looking

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Yes, well, some of us remember using a punch card and a knitting needle. You stabbed the card bundle somewhere along the edge with the knitting needle, shook the deck, and the ones that fell out were the ones you wanted. More sophisticated systems used two knitting needles, which was the upper

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! - support for networked drives

2013-02-14 Thread rebecca officer
y, I'm still using FM 8.0 the "wrong" way and with no crashes. -- Ken in Atlanta From: Ken Poshedly To: techwr-l at techwr-l.com Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 10:47:05 AM Subject: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
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2013-02-14 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:41:28 -0800, "Combs, Richard" > wrote: >All the geezers who cut their teeth on >VT-100s may now begin reminiscing. My first one was an ASR-33 TTY. Really. Rolls of paper and UPPER-CASE ONLY. 110 baud, which gave you 10 characters per second. The Hazeltine "glass t

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Alan T Litchfield
roy all copies > of the original message. > > *From:*framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Syed Zaeem > Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) > *Sent:* 2013-02-13-Wednesday 14:24 > *To:* Fred Ridder; poshedly at bells

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
uary 13, 2013 4:41 PM To: Jeff Coatsworth; FrameMaker Users List Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Jeff Coatsworth wrote: > I'm getting that one right after this one occurs - 11014, 7732533, 7724103, > 5985284 > > I've f

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:41:28 -0800, "Combs, Richard" > wrote: >All the geezers who cut their teeth on >VT-100s may now begin reminiscing. My first one was an ASR-33 TTY. Really. Rolls of paper and UPPER-CASE ONLY. 110 baud, which gave you 10 characters per second. The Hazeltine "glass t

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Ken Poshedly
framers at lists.frameusers.com" Sent: Thu, February 14, 2013 7:27:22 AM Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan T Litchfield >

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
uary 13, 2013 4:41 PM To: Jeff Coatsworth; FrameMaker Users List Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Jeff Coatsworth wrote: > I'm getting that one right after this one occurs - 11014, 7732533, 7724103, > 5985284 > > I've f

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-14 Thread Harro de Jong
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan T Litchfield > > There is some weird behaviour on the list this morning. I seem to be getting > the > messages in discontinuous threads and out of order. Probably because the convers

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Log files and errors are often only for the engineers who created the product. Unfortunately, technical writers aren't involved in that process. If technical writers would be involved, they probably would add "The following error codes are for Adobe technicians on

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Keith Soltys
techwr-l.com Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ken Poshedly mailto:poshedly at bellsouth.net>> wrote: > I just learned from Adobe tech support (via phone call) that the permissions > in > FrameMaker 1

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Combs, Richard
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:48 AM > To: FrameMaker Users List > Subject: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! &g

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Combs, Richard
Robert Lauriston wrote: > Note that Ken and his coworker were able to reproduce the problem. > > Sometimes FrameMaker has problems using source files are on network > file servers, sometimes it doesn't. If you've experienced no problems, > count yourself lucky. The problems with files on networ

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! - support for networked drives

2013-02-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
Adobe support said working on local copies was the workaround for the problem. That's not the same as saying that FrameMaker can't work with files on a network drive, just a tacit admission that the implementation is buggy. There's nothing FM11-specific about that. You can find lots of examples on

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
013 4:15 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Good demonstration of how finicky FM is about networks and how hard those problems can be to diagnose. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Jeff Coatsworth wrote: > I&

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
_ From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:48 AM To: FrameMaker Users List Subject: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! To all, My coworker is running FrameMa

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread John Sgammato
>> an intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies >> of the original message. >> >> *From:*framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com >> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Syed Zaeem >> Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.n

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! - support for networked drives

2013-02-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
Adobe support said working on local copies was the workaround for the problem. That's not the same as saying that FrameMaker can't work with files on a network drive, just a tacit admission that the implementation is buggy. There's nothing FM11-specific about that. You can find lots of examples on

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Scott Prentice
M To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Good demonstration of how finicky FM is about networks and how hard those problems can be to diagnose. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Jeff Coatsworth wrote: I'm getting that

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Scott Prentice
On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:15 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! > > Good demonstration of how finicky FM is about networks and how hard > those pro

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
, 2013 4:15 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Good demonstration of how finicky FM is about networks and how hard those problems can be to diagnose. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Jeff Coatsworth wrote: > I'm gett

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Fred Ridder
net Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! To: docudoc at hotmail.com; robert at lauriston.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com; techwr-l at techwr-l.com I was only aware that an .lck file prevents two people from working on the same file simultaneously

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
Good demonstration of how finicky FM is about networks and how hard those problems can be to diagnose. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Jeff Coatsworth wrote: > I'm getting that one right after this one occurs - 11014, 7732533, 7724103, > 5985284 > > I've figured out that it's something to do wi

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! - support for networked drives

2013-02-13 Thread rebecca officer
y, I'm still using FM 8.0 the "wrong" way and with no crashes. -- Ken in Atlanta From: Ken Poshedly To: techw...@techwr-l.com Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 10:47:05 AM Subject: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Ken Poshedly
ght just stay with it, eh? -- Ken in Atlanta From: "dave.st...@gdc4s.com" To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; techw...@techwr-l.com Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 2:52:16 PM Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! 2013-02-13-03T19:50Z

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Combs, Richard
__ > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:48 AM > To: FrameMaker Users List > Subject: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! &g

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Combs, Richard
Robert Lauriston wrote: > Note that Ken and his coworker were able to reproduce the problem. > > Sometimes FrameMaker has problems using source files are on network > file servers, sometimes it doesn't. If you've experienced no problems, > count yourself lucky. The problems with files on network

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Of Ken Poshedly Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:28 AM To: Fred Ridder; rob...@lauriston.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com; techw...@techwr-l.com Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! My coworker did the following (with my help as I followe

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
Good demonstration of how finicky FM is about networks and how hard those problems can be to diagnose. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Jeff Coatsworth wrote: > I'm getting that one right after this one occurs - 11014, 7732533, 7724103, > 5985284 > > I've figured out that it's something to do wi

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Alan T Litchfield
There is some weird behaviour on the list this morning. I seem to be getting the messages in discontinuous threads and out of order. It's like listening to a conversation in a bar. Alan On 14/02/13 9:09 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote: Note that Ken and his coworker were able to reproduce the prob

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Now about those questions. On 14/02/13 3:48 AM, Ken Poshedly wrote: So the questions: * What do those internal error numbers specifically mean? I have no idea and don't really want to know. * Is/are the error/errors caused by a hardware problem or a software problem? Looking at t

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
half Of Ken Poshedly Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:28 AM To: Fred Ridder; robert at lauriston.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com; techwr-l at techwr-l.com Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! My coworker did the following (with my help as I fo

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
___ From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:48 AM To: FrameMaker Users List Subject: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! To all, My coworker is running FrameMaker 1

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Matt Sullivan
shedly > To: techw...@techwr-l.com > Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 10:47:05 AM > Subject: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! > > To all, > > Please excuse this x-posting (Framemaker list), but no replies at all from > there > so far.

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Keep calm and Make Frames I would have to say that the person Ken spoke to must be a tech-idiot, but that would not be the first I have spoken to at Adobe (re previous discuss

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
; techw...@techwr-l.com Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Syed, In our case: * The C-drive is the hard drive on our own desktop computer and is where FM is installed. * The network drive is not a partition of the desktop hard drive, but instead a

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread John Sgammato
; an intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies >> of the original message. >> >> *From:*framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com >> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Syed Zaeem >> Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) >> *S

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
Note that Ken and his coworker were able to reproduce the problem. Sometimes FrameMaker has problems using source files are on network file servers, sometimes it doesn't. If you've experienced no problems, count yourself lucky. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > If it w

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Ken Poshedly
llsouth.net" ; "rob...@lauriston.com" ; "framers@lists.frameusers.com" ; "techw...@techwr-l.com" Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 2:24:07 PM Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ken Pos

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread dave.st...@gdc4s.com
esday 14:24 To: Fred Ridder; poshedly at bellsouth.net; robert at lauriston.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com; techwr-l at techwr-l.com Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ken Poshedly wrote: > I just learned f

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
I haven't worked anywhere without source control in years, but before that, I encountered so many problems editing FrameMaker files on network shared drives that I eventually decided it was easier to work on a local copy. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Ken Poshedly wrote: > 1. Copied the entir

RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Keith Soltys
Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ken Poshedly mailto:poshe...@bellsouth.net>> wrote: > I just learned from Adobe tech support (via phone call) that the permissions > in > FrameMaker 11.0 have been modifi

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Ken Poshedly
From: Fred Ridder To: poshe...@bellsouth.net; rob...@lauriston.com; "framers@lists.frameusers.com" ; techw...@techwr-l.com Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 2:01:54 PM Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Actually, there is *less* to it than that.

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Ken Poshedly
; rob...@lauriston.com; "framers@lists.frameusers.com" ; techw...@techwr-l.com Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 12:28:30 PM Subject: RE: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Note that creation of a .lck file is an option that the user can turn on or off.

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Matt Sullivan
dly > To: techwr-l at techwr-l.com > Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 10:47:05 AM > Subject: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! > > To all, > > Please excuse this x-posting (Framemaker list), but no replies at all from > there > so far.

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
to > do before. Capisce? > > -- Ken in Atlanta > > > > From: Robert Lauriston > To: Ken Poshedly ; framers@lists.frameusers.com; > TECHWR-L > Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 12:11:02 PM > Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a p

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Ken Poshedly
: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! That's a pretty radical change. Does FM11 not create .lck files when you open an .fm file? On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ken Poshedly wrote: > I just learned from Adobe tech support (via phone call) that the permissions in

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
That's a pretty radical change. Does FM11 not create .lck files when you open an .fm file? On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ken Poshedly wrote: > I just learned from Adobe tech support (via phone call) that the permissions > in > FrameMaker 11.0 have been modified so that the data files should a

"FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
4 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! Keep calm and Make Frames I would have to say that the person Ken spoke to must be a tech-idiot, but that would not be the first I have spoken to at Adobe (re previous discuss

Re: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?!

2013-02-13 Thread Ken Poshedly
with no crashes. -- Ken in Atlanta From: Ken Poshedly To: techw...@techwr-l.com Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 10:47:05 AM Subject: "FrameMaker has detected a problem and must quit" Really?! To all, Please excuse this x-posting (Framemaker list), but no replies at all

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